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Transcript for 01-10-2014, 1522 lines:

00:00:10 BingoBoingo: Maybe that McCain kid is finally senile enough to be a reliable empty suit?

00:01:13 mircea_popescu: who's melia ?

00:01:24 ben_vulpes: ;;google melia

00:01:25 gribble: MELIA HOTELS INTERNATIONAL - MELIA - GRAN MELIA - SOL ...: http://www.melia.com/; Hotel Directory by Meliá Hotels International: http://www.melia.com/hotels; Meliá Nassau Beach - Hotel in Nassau - BAHAMAS - Meliá Hotels: http://www.melia.com/en/hotels/bahamas/nassau/melia-nassau-beach/index.html

00:01:32 ben_vulpes: it was a long shot

00:01:36 ben_vulpes: ;;google melia obama

00:01:36 gribble: Family of Barack Obama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama; Malia and Sasha Obama Through the Years Photos - ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/photos/malia-sasha-obama-vacation-biking-16716893; Malia Obama Birthday: First Daughter Turns 14, Her Most Stylish ...: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/03/malia-obama- (1 more message)

00:02:07 BingoBoingo: I dunno Sasha seems moar presedential than Malia

00:02:13 mircea_popescu: what was the name of that bush slut

00:02:22 mircea_popescu: that was changing her panties on the street at some point ?

00:02:30 ben_vulpes: p. sure those girls are out of the running.

00:02:30 BingoBoingo: I thought they were twins and so never got proper memorable names

00:02:32 mircea_popescu: i guess im phrasing this wrongly.

00:02:41 mircea_popescu: ;;google bush daughter slut change panties street corner

00:02:42 gribble: New NBC “Reporter” Jenna Bush Hager Must Leave Anti-American ...: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/8033/new-nbc-reporter-jenna-bush-hager-must-leave-unicef-board/; Bush - Drunken Stepfather: http://drunkenstepfather.com/category/bush; BookReader - Daddy_s slut girl (Egan Norma): http://bookre.org/reader?file=78071

00:02:45 mircea_popescu: y.

00:02:53 mircea_popescu: ty google. you understand me.

00:03:24 assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2D40Y2N.txt )

00:03:24 BingoBoingo: !b 5

00:05:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00074898 = 34.3782 BTC [+] {2}

00:06:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2555 @ 0.00075285 = 1.9235 BTC [+]

00:11:33 BingoBoingo: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2010/02/ksk-off-topic-how-to-foil-a-child-molester.html

00:12:35 BingoBoingo: ^ Basically the story of Circle

00:17:40 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> what was the name of that bush slut < haha

00:20:31 JuliaTourianski: that's one of the best reactions I've gotten. at least they're not discussing what i look like.

00:25:45 BingoBoingo: JuliaTourianski: That's why I don't do video

00:28:15 ben_vulpes: <******> You've made three unsuccessful attempts to find your account. We've locked this session for security reasons. Please close and reopen your browser to start again. << annals of web security engineering

00:29:01 BingoBoingo: http://statsbylopez.com/2014/09/29/stat-pundit-rankings-mlb-2014-overunder-win-totals/ << "Vegas Odds"

00:29:03 assbot: Stat pundit rankings: MLB 2014 over/under win totals | StatsbyLopez

00:48:38 BingoBoingo: So this Oakland/Kansas-Shitty Ace off already has point against both pitchers

00:55:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34900 @ 0.00075288 = 26.2755 BTC [+]

00:57:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51900 @ 0.00074818 = 38.8305 BTC [-] {4}

00:58:00 BingoBoingo: OMG MPOE crashing

01:05:08 BingoBoingo: %v

01:05:10 atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 170 Ask: 266 Last Price: 180 30d-Vol: 252k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 191

01:05:30 Apocalyptic: %d

01:05:32 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 300101.21 in 684 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -84.02

01:07:15 BingoBoingo: %p

01:07:17 atcbot: >> No data returned from CoinMiner.net << [PityThePool Hashrate]: 139.27 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.26 TH/s [P2P Hashrate]: 1.83 TH/s

01:07:32 BingoBoingo: !up AMDCeleron

01:07:39 BingoBoingo: So AMDCeleron WHo are you really?

01:07:58 AMDCeleron: i like AMD better than Intel yet i got a Celeron cpu in my laptop

01:08:17 BingoBoingo: AMDCeleron: What are your thoughts on the AMD low power chips?

01:08:26 AMDCeleron: like amd c-60?

01:08:42 AMDCeleron: i had a netbook with c60 two years ago and it was ok i guess

01:08:48 BingoBoingo: Well, not that low power. Like the E-XXXX and its successors.

01:09:12 mircea_popescu: dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs

01:10:06 BingoBoingo: AMDCeleron: What are your thoughts on non-x86-BBQ chips?

01:10:27 AMDCeleron: like iphone chips?

01:10:34 AMDCeleron: BingoBoingo, i dont know i have had an amd cpu in a year

01:11:09 AMDCeleron: why do you care about what i think of AMD?

01:11:26 BingoBoingo: AMDCeleron: I'm talking beautiful stuff like IBM Power, Motorola 68k, Sun Sparc/Sparc64

01:11:44 BingoBoingo: AMDCeleron: I'm just curious about people's IRC nick strategies

01:11:47 AMDCeleron: not sure ive never really used it

01:12:11 AMDCeleron: I choose AMD because i like amd better than INtel, yet i have celeron n2830 in my laptop

01:12:30 BingoBoingo: AMDCeleron: WHy not give them both the finger and go Longsoon?

01:12:42 AMDCeleron: idk

01:14:44 mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> <******> << the stars are secure

01:14:50 mircea_popescu: that's why used in pw fields.

01:15:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10577 @ 0.00074721 = 7.9032 BTC [-] {2}

01:16:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37800 @ 0.00074682 = 28.2298 BTC [-] {3}

01:21:09 BingoBoingo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/25/hot-dougs-closing_n_5882072.html?cps=gravity << Shitcago School of Applied Economics

01:21:09 assbot: The Best Hot Dogs In America Are Going Extinct, And Everyone Wants A Bite Before It's Too Late

01:27:45 AMDCeleron: what is assbot

01:28:20 BingoBoingo: Assbot is kakobrekla's monster. In december it consumes the wrong kind of naughty Children.

01:33:52 cazalla: from that digital cc annual report - On 28 February 2014, Mt Gox, the online Bitcoin trading exchange filed for bankruptcy protection in Japan. At the time Mt Gox filed for bankruptcy, Digital CC Trading Pty Ltd (wholly owned subsidiary of the Group) held approximately $233,435 of bitcoins with Mt Gox. It is uncertain as to whether Digital CC Trading Pty Ltd will recover those bitcoins

01:33:53 cazalla: in the future and therefore the inventory has been written down in full.

01:34:03 cazalla: they incurred a loss of 11m for the financial year

01:35:37 BingoBoingo: cazalla: How much have you thought about non-name logistics for the news site?

01:36:14 cazalla: BingoBoingo, cart before horse much?

01:36:28 cazalla: jk of course

01:37:39 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Well, the first thing to have is probabaly a site pushing quality blocks of text. Within hours of settling on a domain.

01:37:52 BingoBoingo: ;;google site:fraudsters.com domain naming strategy

01:37:53 gribble: Why everything you think you know about DNS is entirely wrong pe ...: http://fraudsters.com/2014/why-everything-you-think-you-know-about-dns-is-entirely-wrong/; [Direct] BTC Growth - Forex Volatility Focus - Bitcoin Forum: http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/mulhauser.html; Ycombinator continues to suck, jointly and severally pe fraudsters - Un ...: (1 more message)

01:37:53 cazalla: i figure modelling it after coinfire without all the silliness would be a start, see if i stick at it longer than a few months and then maybe bring some more people on board

01:38:58 BingoBoingo: cazalla: From the start I will be willing to contribute articles.

01:39:29 BingoBoingo: And suggestions, like Toolbox is the only useful Wordpress theme

01:40:06 mircea_popescu: cazalla sounds liek a sound plan actually.

01:40:24 cazalla: BingoBoingo, simpler the theme, the better

01:40:53 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Doesn't really get simpler. And as you get ideas about the look, you build from it.

01:41:06 cazalla: i use to use thesis for my wordpress sites though

01:41:57 cazalla: would you suggest latest wordpress ver or reverting to an older one? i have not used it much since 2.x

01:42:04 kakobrekla: fuck me. one of these days im gonna have a heart attack.

01:42:28 BingoBoingo: Everyone has their vices. BingoBlog's first theme was some swiss named default offered in lieu of ugly ass 20XX

01:42:43 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla wha happened ?

01:43:34 kakobrekla: i was in the middle of bbet maintenance when suddenly everything stopped working

01:43:41 kakobrekla: could not figure out for the hell of it wtf

01:43:58 BingoBoingo: <cazalla> would you suggest latest wordpress ver or reverting to an older one? i have not used it much since 2.x << Maybe MP can lend WordPress insights. I just kind of start with current and kill obnoxious defaults. For a news site though you probably want a new enough version to have decent multiuser handling.

01:44:11 kakobrekla: sweating blood on keyboard

01:44:23 kakobrekla: to find out i got locked out by ddos protection.

01:44:35 kakobrekla: and in reality it works.

01:46:12 mircea_popescu: lol

01:46:28 mircea_popescu: better than the other way around eh.

01:46:30 cazalla: how about using one of these new tlds trollbox.report

01:47:28 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Could work

01:48:15 cazalla: i can't think of any notable website starting with tr

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01:48:58 BingoBoingo: !b 3

01:49:50 BingoBoingo: Whatever the initial name is...there's sites in the #b-a interwebz hood that can get your google juice organically primed and buzzworded

01:52:35 BingoBoingo: cazalla: As I understand web publishing though... One of the most important parts is having content before going on srs promotion binges

01:53:45 BingoBoingo: If the news site starts tomorrow... I can be a srs contender for newbs around X-mas

01:55:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26984 @ 0.00074788 = 20.1808 BTC [+]

01:56:48 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-web-20-illustrated/

01:57:22 mircea_popescu: cazalla ^ btw.

02:01:14 BingoBoingo: !up peterL_ good boy

02:01:32 PeterL_: hi

02:03:05 BingoBoingo: !up devthedev

02:03:05 BingoBoingo: O hai PeterL

02:05:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: people live everywhere people live << for the sake of argument, let's agree they're 'people.' but is that 'living' ?

02:05:44 mircea_popescu: now how would i know

02:06:38 BingoBoingo: Samizdat in IP land: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/gaming/2014/09/major_scrabble_brouhaha_can_you_copyright_a_list_of_words.html

02:06:38 assbot: Scrabble copyright dispute: Hasbro says it owns the Scrabble dictionary. Players beg to differ.

02:06:51 mircea_popescu: lmao

02:08:20 BingoBoingo: It's like if Nimzovich said Imma publish 'My System' but nun-yall can play it.

02:09:13 mircea_popescu: it's like this dumb kid in the courtyard figured somebody gives a shit if he loses an eye.

02:09:54 asciilifeform: lol, hasbro!

02:10:01 asciilifeform: everybody knows the story with that firm ?

02:10:10 BingoBoingo: Which story?

02:10:10 devthedev: Good evening

02:10:17 asciilifeform: they bought up virtually the entire u.s. computer game industry - and then imploded.

02:10:36 asciilifeform: most of the purchases were taxidermically hollowed out (assuming they even had meat) and used as bare named

02:10:38 asciilifeform: e.g. 'atari'

02:10:46 BingoBoingo: Ah

02:11:07 asciilifeform: (my brother at one time worked in a tiny game firm, their product was released with 'atari' on the box by the publisher - at the time, hasbro corp.)

02:12:04 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yup, quite. bought all the dead birds

02:12:23 asciilifeform: and attached strings, put on muppet show.

02:12:44 mircea_popescu: myeah. as if you know ?

02:12:58 mircea_popescu: possibly dumbest company in history of ip debacles, way up there with the riaa/mpaa crowd

02:13:09 asciilifeform: evidently something remains of it!

02:13:15 *: asciilifeform was a little surprised

02:13:22 mircea_popescu: about the same as remains of the "comics code"

02:13:28 mircea_popescu: an office in a basemenent somewhere

02:13:29 asciilifeform: lol

02:13:39 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Bankruptcy is a powerful tool as Mr. Trump can attest.

02:13:39 mircea_popescu: unless it was finally closed

02:14:20 asciilifeform: basement, office, bag of money the size of a Waring laboratory blender. recipe for eternal life.

02:19:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39521 @ 0.00075307 = 29.7621 BTC [+] {3}

02:20:58 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So... We're prolly all stuck now. Ebola diagnosed in the US. Outgoing border controls can't be far away.

02:21:21 devthedev: BingoBoingo: I still have that canoe if you want to borrow it.

02:21:50 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: marburg was in usa, etc.

02:22:03 asciilifeform: !s the holiday

02:22:04 assbot: 37 results for 'the holiday' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=the+holiday

02:22:12 BingoBoingo: devthedev: Well I haven't found library work so...Maybe I'll work X-mas at the mall and get back to you in January.

02:22:19 asciilifeform: if time for 'the holiday' - they don't need excuse.

02:22:32 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The US has its own disease demons like Hanta.

02:22:56 BingoBoingo: It would take some disease with a hashtag.

02:25:20 mircea_popescu: jee whiz, i had no idea ebola had tracks.

02:25:34 mircea_popescu: what strange tank is this!

02:26:39 devthedev: The talks of a properly run Bitcoin news site is interesting.

02:27:00 devthedev: What would be needed to make it a reality?

02:27:01 mircea_popescu: devthedev didn't you work for something like that at some point ?

02:27:18 asciilifeform: 'there wasn't ebola when bush was president, thanks obama'

02:27:23 asciilifeform: (random turd from net)

02:27:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform blame obamacare ? lol.

02:28:20 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you'll appreciate today's puzzle box: http://imgur.com/a/ZcyQH

02:28:20 assbot: Puzzle Box - Imgur

02:28:28 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: He's a Florida kid. Was on TradeFartress's CoinChat and did his own thing afterwards.

02:28:29 asciilifeform: (unrelated)

02:28:58 devthedev: Yes, I worked with Plaxant.com a few months back when they ran a Bitcoin news venue.

02:29:07 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Is that a helium release valve?

02:29:31 asciilifeform: any gas

02:29:45 decimation: re: bankruptcy << usg is bankrupt (as discussed yesterday). the natural law of bankruptcy demands that the bankrupt lose control of their assets to the creditors

02:30:04 BingoBoingo: <devthedev> Yes, I worked with Plaxant.com a few months back when they ran a Bitcoin news venue. << Wrote the only worthwhile stories on a since failed venue. Operator never showed and stayed here in spite on invites.

02:30:15 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> any gas << Ah

02:31:17 mircea_popescu: devthedev well, talk to cazalla basically.

02:31:53 devthedev: Will do

02:32:05 decimation: re: floating-point << http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/floating-point-determinism/ "Is IEEE floating-point math deterministic? Will you always get the same results from the same inputs? The answer is an unequivocal “yes”. Unfortunately the answer is also an unequivocal “no”. I’m afraid you will need to clarify your question."

02:32:07 assbot: Floating-Point Determinism | Random ASCII

02:32:55 BingoBoingo: devthedev: He might be cleaning rabbits atm.

02:33:12 mircea_popescu: decimation lmao good one

02:33:16 BingoBoingo: !up devthedev

02:33:18 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot devthedev

02:33:18 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user devthedev: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=devthedev | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=devthedev | Rated since: Tue Jul 15 12:31:42 2014

02:33:24 mircea_popescu: you know you can self up.

02:33:47 devthedev: I don't have access to my OTC keys at the moment to auth.

02:37:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4616 @ 0.00074788 = 3.4522 BTC [-]

02:37:33 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: hint - puzzle box is in my kitchen.

02:38:17 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Brewing something or preparing under the sea anchor safe

02:38:27 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: negative.

02:39:19 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Century hard drive?

02:39:24 asciilifeform: nope.

02:40:30 BingoBoingo: Dead Nigger Storage?

02:40:34 asciilifeform: lol

02:40:48 *: asciilifeform doesn't know what the box for that looks like, but imagines slightly larger

02:41:26 BingoBoingo: ;;google pulp fiction dead nigger storage

02:41:27 gribble: Pulp Fiction: "Dead Nigger Storage" - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knAqM2Gsfi4; Dead Nigger Storage - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihH_-O7ev2o; Pulp Fiction (1994) - Quotes - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/quotes

02:41:32 asciilifeform: if this one were a coffin, it'd hold a very obese 5 y.o.

02:41:45 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Noiseless computer?

02:41:54 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: give up ?

02:42:00 BingoBoingo: I concede

02:42:05 asciilifeform: it's empty, of course.

02:42:23 asciilifeform: cheapest way to get airtight crate, by a factor of 10, is usg surplus.

02:42:30 BingoBoingo: Ah

02:43:24 asciilifeform: and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter.

02:44:35 decimation: http://www.dlis.dla.mil/webflis/pub/pub_search.aspx

02:44:37 assbot: WebFLIS - Public Search

02:44:42 decimation: "SHIPPING AND STORAGE CONTAINER,POWER SUPPLY"

02:44:49 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> and this is considerably cheaper than getting a hold of a climate-controlled space where lathe, mill, won't rust in winter. << Wait how much does a climate controlled storage locker cost on your left coast?

02:44:55 asciilifeform: decimation: yes.

02:45:15 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: locker with mains socket that you can sit in?

02:45:23 decimation: I yearn for the days when usg would actually create a spec for an object and have it manufactured

02:45:23 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and loudly machine things ?

02:45:32 asciilifeform: decimation: nukes

02:46:02 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: they're called 'apartments' and cost $maxint

02:46:13 decimation: those rare items that fall into that category are purchased at unobtainium toilet prices

02:46:24 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Lacks own mains socket, but climate controlled costs ~50/month here. Also lacks plumbing.

02:46:34 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: then not really applicable

02:46:47 BingoBoingo: I guess

02:46:47 decimation: asciilifeform: it looks like a poor man's pelican case

02:47:18 decimation: except better constructed with the metal lip & latches

02:47:30 asciilifeform: decimation: considerably nicer than 'pelican' - the lips are aluminum, and latches are valve-like cranks that twist tight

02:47:34 asciilifeform: (steel)

02:47:38 asciilifeform: fiddybucks.

02:48:06 asciilifeform: 'dr. evil' appearance - thrown in for free.

02:48:12 decimation: wow. I thought the problem with buying usg surplus is that you have to buy a pallet

02:48:19 decimation: did you buy from junk dealer?

02:48:28 asciilifeform: i demand that my dismembered corpse, when time comes, be stowed in a crate no worse than this one!

02:48:41 asciilifeform: decimation: yes

02:49:23 decimation: 'costco', one of the better us 'retailers' got its start selling caskets

02:52:03 decimation: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/30/top-va-official-conspired-with-her-married-boyfriend-to-thwart-investigations/ << "A 2008 performance review, according to the investigation, stated that “her accomplishments were undermined by her poor judgment and lack of accountability. … Ms. Taylor allowed a personal friend to be hired in her department as a contractor [Mr. Dobrzykowski]; ... This, of course, is all good enough for

02:52:04 assbot: Top VA Exec Conspired With Married Boyfriend To Thwart Investigations | The Daily Caller

02:52:04 decimation: government work, since two years later she found herself in a top position at the VHA."

02:52:39 decimation: Not the kind of government bureaucrat that could design or even employ someone to design a quality case

02:53:17 asciilifeform: http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/24/clinton-aide-watches-stall-as-reporter-relieves-herself << linked from above

02:53:17 assbot: Clinton Aide Watches Stall As Reporter Pees | The Daily Caller

02:53:47 decimation: yeah 'daily caller' is an obviously americanized version of 'daily mail', and highly amusing

02:56:18 devthedev: I'm not sure what I'd do if someone followed me into the stall, probably wouldn't be too pretty though.

02:56:53 BingoBoingo: devthedev: My answer prolly depends on if they look pretty

02:58:08 devthedev: The comments are classic.

02:58:28 mircea_popescu: !up AdrianoOliveira

02:58:54 AdrianoOliveira: Thanks!

02:59:48 BingoBoingo: devthedev: For the record you are roughly how old and how advanced in 'Murica school.

03:00:46 devthedev: I'm 15 and a Junior currently taking mostly AP classes.

03:02:43 cazalla: <+devthedev> What would be needed to make it a reality? <<< like anything, consistency

03:03:47 decimation: !up devthedev

03:04:19 devthedev: Of course

03:04:43 decimation: asciilifeform: reading about floating point implementations on x86 is suicidally depressing for an x86 programmer

03:04:58 asciilifeform: decimation: wait till you realize there's 2 of them.

03:05:02 asciilifeform: uncoupled.

03:05:05 cazalla: although i guess jborkl is consistent, i feels bad for him

03:05:08 decimation: yeah, sse and x87

03:05:15 asciilifeform: yes.

03:05:49 asciilifeform: because gr0wth and pr0gr355, or something.

03:06:11 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Consistent, but alone insufficient. Pretty much the curse of anyone who tries this thing solo and without structure.

03:07:39 BingoBoingo: cazalla: I am skimming the #b-a periphery though for the hungry and not malinformed. So far I've found 1 candidate. I might find another.

03:08:02 BingoBoingo: devthedev: Does peapodamus still go online?

03:08:28 devthedev: I haven't spoken to him for about 2 weeks.

03:08:49 asciilifeform: x86 - what nobody wants, but everybody gets. like tax, death, arse waltzes.

03:08:56 BingoBoingo: Sooner than last year devthedev

03:09:11 BingoBoingo: So I guess he fails the consistency criteria.

03:09:26 decimation: plus intel keeps coming up with 'new' sse/cisc instructions that are """correct""": http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/01/27/theres-only-four-billion-floatsso-test-them-all/ << "A few months ago I saw a blog post touting fancy new SSE3 functions for implementing vector floor, ceil, and round functions. There was the inevitable proud proclaiming of impressive performance and correctness. However the ceil function gave the wrong

03:09:27 assbot: There are Only Four Billion Floats–So Test Them All! | Random ASCII

03:09:27 decimation: answer for many numbers it was supposed to handle, including odd-ball numbers like ‘one’."

03:09:56 BingoBoingo: devthedev: What about the really obnoxious one, Whiskers? WHo I'm pretty sure is in his 40's/

03:10:05 asciilifeform: gave the wrong answer << dollars to doughnuts, whichever answer comes out of 'matlab.'

03:10:10 asciilifeform: on normal x86 box.

03:10:14 devthedev: I'm not too fond of him BingoBoingo

03:10:52 devthedev: I haven't spoken to him since last year

03:10:53 decimation: my understanding is that matlab on x86 just uses doubles

03:11:01 asciilifeform: and these use...

03:11:06 BingoBoingo: devthedev: Not many are, but after this thing gets feet he might be a solid audition.

03:11:25 asciilifeform: tell-tale heart: if 'double' is 80 bits, you're using x86 fp

03:11:41 decimation: asciilifeform: surely you aren't suggesting that intel allowed some swarthy intern design their cisc instructions with some dumbass matlab script?

03:12:21 asciilifeform: decimation: not instructions. the poster.

03:12:29 BingoBoingo: decimation: This is Intel, once the US legalizes weed at the Federal level their foundries are being converted to farms.

03:12:31 asciilifeform: seriously, work in a u.s. anything & see.

03:13:05 decimation: yeah, I know. everyone wants to implement on matlab, and they do not usually think about issues like numerical precision

03:13:11 decimation: the blog poster is a googleer

03:13:19 asciilifeform: phun phact. traditionally, the folks who write cpu manuals (how many people here have seen them alive? dead tree manuals) don't have access to original design specs.

03:13:30 asciilifeform: they're interns

03:13:36 asciilifeform: get napkin notes

03:14:05 asciilifeform: decimation: you don't get it. likely the folks who wrote the presentation, gave results of supposed tests, etc. never even saw the chip.

03:14:39 decimation: ah I see. yeah that's probably true

03:14:49 decimation: someone gave them a 'model' maybe

03:14:52 asciilifeform: so there is a mostly unwritten 'talmud' of differences between intel's manuals and the reality.

03:15:00 asciilifeform: (no you can't buy it from intel)

03:15:04 asciilifeform: amd - similar story

03:15:29 decimation: this is why intel can make money both ways - selling chips and selling compilers/libraries that actually use them

03:15:35 asciilifeform: when people say x86 is a turd - this is more than an aesthetic opinion

03:15:37 devthedev: Have a great day everyone, I'm going to get some sleep.

03:15:52 asciilifeform: it is a statement of fact. in that, encountering an animal turd in the forest, you know only approximately what is its composition.

03:15:54 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> amd - similar story << Fucked themselves for years by compiling their compilers with Intels

03:16:44 decimation: intel's ipp and compiler would 'detect' amd and disable its sse routines

03:16:51 decimation: I'm not sure if it still does

03:17:11 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: amd does not sell compilers.

03:17:35 asciilifeform: (unless this is a deep secret i was never privy to)

03:17:49 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: To my knowledge they've never sold either

03:18:05 decimation: AMD mainly sells usg anti-monopoly prosecution protection

03:19:49 BingoBoingo: decimation: They also sell the best laptop chips around.

03:19:57 decimation: I'm pretty partial to the haswell chip in my mbp

03:20:52 BingoBoingo: I actually don't actively dislike the E-350 in my X120e

03:21:03 BingoBoingo: I hate the fucking wireless card.

03:21:36 BingoBoingo: But I don't actively dislike the CPU/GPU combo

03:22:42 *: BingoBoingo remembers fuckers Spz. AMD APU's would be the mining be all and end all and they don't even register seriously for the weird alt hash functions

03:23:45 decimation: I mined with AMD/ATI gpu back in the day, I grew to hate AMD's driver releases that would ruin everything

03:24:52 BingoBoingo: I really, truly should have put the alcohol hobby on hold through grad school, but... The lack of time machines is a necessary bitch.

03:29:14 BingoBoingo: !up AdrianoOliveira

03:31:22 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/517154726933463040

03:31:23 assbot: Today is September 30, 2014, and there is still not much BIP32 support. Muh /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash 2.0.

03:34:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41879 @ 0.00074648 = 31.2618 BTC [-] {2}

03:34:08 BingoBoingo: !up Trix

03:42:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00074661 = 8.7353 BTC [+]

03:54:25 TheNewDeal: credit card locked out after 1 failed attempt to enter a zip code. Thank security

04:00:01 cazalla: 3D secure might be worse

04:03:53 TheNewDeal: wow, never ever heard of that nonsense

04:05:33 BingoBoingo: Oh, The Oakland KC wildcard game is in extra innings

04:06:09 TheNewDeal: ;;calc (41/34.661)**(1/3)

04:06:10 gribble: 1.05758250067

04:06:27 TheNewDeal: ;;calc (41/35)**(.5)

04:06:27 gribble: 1.08232553856

04:08:07 TheNewDeal: ;;calc 41/34.66

04:08:07 gribble: 1.18291979227

04:10:28 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitstein You want a conversation, but... Twitter seriously?

04:10:29 gribble: The operation succeeded.

04:17:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23950 @ 0.00075061 = 17.9771 BTC [+] {2}

04:26:18 BingoBoingo: So... the AL postseason RBI record was broken... today... on the first game...

04:26:33 BingoBoingo: For Oaland's record

04:28:49 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Do you still have an adorable bunny negro?

04:29:56 cazalla: it's a little browner but yes

04:30:47 BingoBoingo: cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name?

04:30:54 BingoBoingo: Q pronounced as K

04:31:16 BingoBoingo: Pic of the little browner as the favicon.

04:32:40 BingoBoingo: !up los_pantalones

04:34:00 cazalla: reminds me of contra code

04:34:31 BingoBoingo: Reminds people of a lot of things

04:36:40 cazalla: said bunny http://imgur.com/RN3XoLK

04:36:40 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

04:37:13 BingoBoingo: cazalla: You got a mascot

04:41:44 TheNewDeal: cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing - must have been reading the correct animal entrails

04:45:23 cazalla: BingoBoingo, yeah he or she is a keeper, i think the buck is the half breed so hopefully female so i can breed it back

04:46:00 BingoBoingo: Nice. Bunny rabbits are delicious.

04:47:17 mircea_popescu: "Greetings from Bitgazetteer.com, We are very happy to announce that your store/business has been posted on our bitgazetteer.com website because you integrated Bitcoins/Crypto-Currency as a legitimate payment method."

04:47:34 mircea_popescu: these fucktards. yeah, im sure spamming is the way to start a "business".

04:48:29 Dimsler: lol

04:48:42 Dimsler: must read bitgazetteer

04:49:03 mircea_popescu: big zappy deer'd have been a better name

04:50:00 BingoBoingo: Zappy Deer could be the first decent iPhone game.

04:57:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0007477 = 7.9256 BTC [-]

05:00:59 cazalla: <+BingoBoingo> cazalla: How does QontraCoin sound as a name? <<< as discussed, qntra as domain name, anyone have input?

05:01:53 BingoBoingo: Qntra seems like the winner

05:02:21 asciilifeform: cazalla: ever milk them?

05:02:53 cazalla: asciilifeform no but i've read about it, apparently their milk is amongst the best

05:02:59 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The bunnies?

05:03:07 asciilifeform: amongst the best << i always suspected!

05:03:16 asciilifeform: amazing premium product!

05:03:16 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

05:03:24 *: asciilifeform would buy

05:05:03 asciilifeform: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091201-rabbits-milk-human-protein-drug << apparently good for ~120mL/day.

05:05:03 assbot: Rabbits Milked for Human Protein; Drug Soon for Sale?

05:05:05 BingoBoingo: My youngest brother at one point had a buck rabbit

05:05:06 asciilifeform: not bad.

05:06:23 BingoBoingo: In its last year among the living feeding it without getting a fist full of bunny jizz was a near impossible task.

05:07:25 cazalla: i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though

05:07:41 BingoBoingo: I just washed my hands thoroughly.

05:08:02 BingoBoingo: ... and tried to forget the rape of my fist

05:08:17 *: asciilifeform searched for 'rabbit milking machine' - found: http://elevenredpaperclips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SAM_0847.jpg

05:12:40 cazalla: bucks will fuck anything

05:12:56 cazalla: does are worse though, they'll try to fuck the buck

05:18:41 cazalla: btw pete_dushenski, while it might sound similar to contravex, it's mere coincidence

05:20:17 BingoBoingo: So... Disclaimer... I was the horrible dirty influence on Cazalla

05:20:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.0007477 = 8.3369 BTC [-]

05:25:20 asciilifeform: obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtSazFb5qM

05:25:20 assbot: Kingpin--cow milk - YouTube

05:28:46 mircea_popescu: <cazalla> i think i would pasteurise the milk if i ever attempted milking them though <<< as there's not that much human history of drinking rabbit milk, likely it's safe.

05:31:37 asciilifeform: if mammal - milk it.

05:31:40 asciilifeform: why waste.

05:32:47 cazalla: asciilifeform, seems tedious to do with a rabbit

05:32:56 asciilifeform: cazalla: machines. see link.

05:33:25 asciilifeform: cazalla: not commercially available off-shelf, sure. but good project for amateur machinist.

05:34:10 cazalla: a machine? suck it straight from the titty

05:34:17 asciilifeform: or that.

05:34:47 asciilifeform: (also works for cow, i imagine, but for some reason not popular.)

05:35:14 cazalla: gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change

05:35:43 asciilifeform: rabbit could shit in your face if you hold it like a bottle and drink?

05:35:49 *: asciilifeform not expert in field

05:36:36 cazalla: having your face scratched would be my concern

05:41:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00074627 = 10.1866 BTC [-] {2}

05:41:59 hanbot: <cazalla> gee namecheap really did a web 2.0 type change << chronicled: http://fraudsters.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/

05:41:59 assbot: Namecheap goes off the deep end. Anyone know a decent domain registrar ? pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

05:46:59 cazalla: hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one

05:47:25 hanbot: loller

05:48:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39533 @ 0.00074582 = 29.4845 BTC [-] {3}

05:52:30 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

05:52:31 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 391.2, Best ask: 392.68, Bid-ask spread: 1.48000, Last trade: 392.7, 24 hour volume: 14382.73145314, 24 hour low: 373.24, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 385.5512724

05:56:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9605 @ 0.00074704 = 7.1753 BTC [+] {2}

06:29:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.0007463 = 9.6646 BTC [-]

06:34:51 BingoBoingo: So anyone awake thoughts on this new 'Gotham' show?

06:36:47 Duffer1: i'm afraid it will be very bad

06:37:54 Duffer1: oh it's already started

06:38:13 BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Yeah, already started. Surprisingly not bad.

06:40:11 Duffer1: i dunno i'm worried they'll pervert the timeline

06:40:35 Duffer1: well i'm worried they'll do that, and it will suck, if it's good i wouldn't mind so much :P

06:41:07 BingoBoingo: At some point, after enough splits, a piece of fiction looses the ability to have a single canon... And would you rather prefer Adam West...

06:41:29 BingoBoingo: As far after two episodes the thing isn't non-sensical

06:41:36 Duffer1: oh i agree, but i don't trust fox to do it right or well

06:42:19 BingoBoingo: Which is a predicament, because if it has unrealized potential Fox could kill it half a season in.

06:43:27 BingoBoingo: Fox is the worst sort of quality filter imaginable

06:44:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0007463 = 8.06 BTC [-]

06:44:26 Duffer1: indeed

06:45:13 Duffer1: i would have loved to see the batman flashpoint alternative history as a series

06:45:16 Duffer1: tv series

06:45:34 Duffer1: on hbo

06:49:09 BingoBoingo: Well, cable is a still more finicky beast. HBO has yet to beat the wire. AMC has yet to touch Breaking Bad.

06:49:51 Duffer1: fringe wasn't bad either (fox no less)

06:50:13 BingoBoingo: Yeah

06:50:23 bounce: namecheap looks like bog standard tabletisation to me. that's not "2.0", where everything is ajaxified for no reason. this is that plus big large buttons for fat fingers and super-duper js-reinvented scrollage that may be nice for tablets but seriously doesn't for (non-fullscreen) browsers on the desktop

06:50:56 punkman: bounce, yeah "mobile first"

06:51:25 bounce: call it a kick in the teeth over and above requiring "browser features" that don't actually add anything to the content. dunno if that's "3.0" or "4.0" or whatever.

06:52:17 Duffer1: BingoBoingo, the creator of the wire is currently writing a new HBO series called Show Me a Hero

06:53:34 BingoBoingo: Interesting

06:53:52 bounce: tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know.

06:54:03 BingoBoingo: Duffer1: The thing I like about Gotham is it is almost a noir, which is like how here the best to hope for is almost a steak.

06:54:22 BingoBoingo: Also that show pisses the hell out of the reddit fanbois

06:54:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31056 @ 0.00074785 = 23.2252 BTC [+] {2}

06:54:37 Duffer1: i'll check it out, but my expectations are probably unreasonably high

06:55:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31865 @ 0.00075332 = 24.0045 BTC [+] {2}

06:55:36 BingoBoingo: Duffer1: As long as you remember Brian Cranston set every writer's expectations for TV unreasonably high it is hard to be disappoint as a viewer

06:55:44 punkman: BingoBoingo: I'd say from a financial perspective Game of Thrones has probably beat everything else HBO

06:56:16 BingoBoingo: punkman: But the bedrock underneath it with 2/7ths of the source material missing...

06:56:39 Duffer1: no doubt, easily the best television actor

06:56:52 BingoBoingo: punkman: Unless in mega troll behavior the tv show jumps the books which I endorse wholly

06:57:27 punkman: I like AMC's Hell on Wheels, not as good as BB of course

06:58:23 Duffer1: i'm watchin HoW too, I prefer Justified though

06:58:40 BingoBoingo: I'm drunk

06:58:46 Duffer1: but i've had a man crush on Timothy Olaphant since Deadwood

07:02:27 punkman: also watched Lilyhammer recently, was some good fun

07:03:02 Duffer1: ha

07:03:15 Duffer1: i tried watching it i really tried

07:03:32 punkman: subtitles are hard?

07:04:25 Duffer1: i just couldn't get into it, the story was not bad, but the main actor i just couldn't relate or believe in

07:21:48 punkman: http://gizmodo.com/self-destructing-ssds-will-nuke-themselves-if-you-text-1640733628

07:21:48 assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word

07:22:08 punkman: yeah exactly what the doctor ordered, more phone in my disks

07:31:32 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ktwo-k-onk

07:31:33 assbot: Accident between two vessels in suez canal 29/09/2014 in portsaid - YouTube

07:34:04 Duffer1: o.0

07:44:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4630 @ 0.0007463 = 3.4554 BTC [-]

07:49:42 RagnarDanneskjol: !up deedBot

07:54:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00074899 = 8.2389 BTC [+]

07:58:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41017 @ 0.00074574 = 30.588 BTC [-] {5}

08:22:46 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

08:22:47 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 386.32, Best ask: 387.19, Bid-ask spread: 0.87000, Last trade: 387.22, 24 hour volume: 15481.20021234, 24 hour low: 373.4, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.189487975

08:26:15 cazalla: does anyone know an alternative to pagewash?

08:27:49 thestringpuller: ;;google pagewash

08:27:49 gribble: PageWash | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/PageWash/100597593899; PageWash - About | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/PageWash/100597593899?sk=info; SURVAY SAYS LYRICS - Turn The Page, Wash Your Hands: http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/survaysays/turnthepagewashyourhands.html

08:28:04 RagnarDanneskjol: whats that

08:28:36 RagnarDanneskjol: cant see fbook

08:28:48 cazalla: sorta like a proxy site

08:29:10 RagnarDanneskjol: oh, so like a vpn but lazier/less secure

08:29:18 cazalla: it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection

08:29:24 RagnarDanneskjol: hmm

08:29:34 cazalla: but they changed the site and made it useless

08:29:46 RagnarDanneskjol: it happens

08:30:10 bounce: plenty web-based proxies Out There. lots stuffed with ads, though

08:31:10 cazalla: yeah, pagewash wasn't like that and refreshed quickly

08:40:07 bounce: usg redefines data collection to allow all data dragnets: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140929/13451828665/executive-order-12333-documents-redefine-collection-authorize-majority-dragnet-surveillance-programs.shtml

08:40:07 assbot: Executive Order 12333 Documents Redefine 'Collection,' Authorize Majority Of Dragnet Surveillance Programs | Techdirt

08:40:31 punkman: didn't take long, did it

08:43:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00074522 = 13.1531 BTC [-] {2}

09:21:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00074504 = 9.0895 BTC [-] {2}

09:44:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25004 @ 0.00074479 = 18.6227 BTC [-] {3}

09:44:19 RagnarDanneskjol: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname

09:44:20 assbot: FCC Considering Punishment for Broadcasters Who Use Redskins Nickname | Bleacher Report

10:00:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45400 @ 0.00074468 = 33.8085 BTC [-] {4}

10:07:21 RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.recentscientific.com/sites/default/files/download_110.pdf

10:07:39 RagnarDanneskjol: [CONTAMINATED MONEY IN CIRCULATION: A REVIEW]

10:08:24 RagnarDanneskjol: ..contaminated - as in pathogens

10:17:20 chetty: <RagnarDanneskjol> http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2216435-fcc-considering-punishment-for-broadcasters-who-use-redskins-nickname///nickname? isnt that the official team name?

10:17:21 assbot: Bleacher Report

10:18:23 chetty: <RagnarDanneskjol> ..contaminated - as in pathogens//read somewhere that virtually every 20 has cocaine traces

10:18:31 RagnarDanneskjol: yea - dont know why they called it nick

10:19:20 RagnarDanneskjol: i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to

10:21:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3112 @ 0.00074396 = 2.3152 BTC [-] {2}

10:27:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00074558 = 27.6983 BTC [+]

10:44:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28922 @ 0.00074383 = 21.5131 BTC [-] {2}

10:44:59 RagnarDanneskjol: !up deedBot

10:45:04 RagnarDanneskjol: .deed http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF

10:45:05 assbot: deed test - Pastebin.com

10:45:06 deedBot: deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle

10:45:06 deedBot: Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/qddQ8idF

10:45:06 assbot: deed test - Pastebin.com

10:51:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19250 @ 0.00074566 = 14.354 BTC [+] {2}

10:52:47 RagnarDanneskjol: .balance

10:52:50 deedBot: deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00253000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu

11:00:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15197 @ 0.00074364 = 11.3011 BTC [-]

11:03:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00074356 = 24.5375 BTC [-] {4}

11:06:07 punkman: .deed http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6

11:06:07 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com

11:06:08 deedBot: deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle

11:06:08 deedBot: Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/mWvW7fd6

11:06:08 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Testing - -----BEGIN - Pastebin.com

11:06:31 punkman: 1.5 signatures, nice

11:08:02 RagnarDanneskjol: wtf does that mean?

11:08:14 punkman: I have no clue

11:08:25 RagnarDanneskjol: ha - interesting

11:10:12 RagnarDanneskjol: I need to have a convo with you - re target bitcoin address as of the hash of the documents, not wasting coins, etc

11:10:25 RagnarDanneskjol: not now, soon

11:11:09 punkman: let me check my calendar :P

11:11:09 RagnarDanneskjol: !up deedBot

11:11:15 RagnarDanneskjol: heh

11:13:24 RagnarDanneskjol: ahh - so 1.5 signatures apparently means one signed msg and one standalone sig

11:13:54 RagnarDanneskjol: .deed http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE

11:13:54 assbot: test - Pastebin.com

11:13:55 deedBot: No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/thQBbZsE

11:13:55 assbot: test - Pastebin.com

11:14:28 RagnarDanneskjol: oops - didnt paste it all

11:15:04 RagnarDanneskjol: .deed http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS

11:15:04 assbot: test - Pastebin.com

11:15:05 deedBot: No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/DX4E7ZHS

11:15:05 assbot: test - Pastebin.com

11:16:51 RagnarDanneskjol: .deed http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt

11:16:52 assbot: ttst - Pastebin.com

11:16:53 deedBot: No signed deeds found in http://pastebin.com/3aCSNttt

11:16:53 assbot: ttst - Pastebin.com

11:20:51 RagnarDanneskjol: .deed http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0

11:20:51 assbot: tst - Pastebin.com

11:20:51 deedBot: deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle

11:20:51 deedBot: deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle

11:20:51 deedBot: Found 2 valid deeds in http://pastebin.com/exbt1Fg0

11:20:51 assbot: tst - Pastebin.com

11:21:03 deedBot: Bundled: 721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt

11:22:02 RagnarDanneskjol: .dump

11:22:02 deedBot: time=1412162522 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412162463 elapsed=59

11:22:03 deedBot: DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.)

11:27:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.0007442 = 18.8283 BTC [+]

11:27:57 deedBot: published http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/721f3f09be090181c913fc24e937c8db80aaae7aae67bad4655750f1ae0c388d-1MWLqwvsTaZZ84vsibz9Ej7tkenBnFDwTS.txt

11:28:41 RagnarDanneskjol: ok its there: http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/

11:28:41 assbot: DEEDS

11:33:13 punkman: http://blog.samaltman.com/reddit

11:33:13 assbot: reddit - Sam Altman

11:35:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36500 @ 0.00074483 = 27.1863 BTC [+] {2}

11:35:55 RagnarDanneskjol: so much fail

11:43:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00074349 = 10.223 BTC [-]

11:45:45 chetty: In several years, I think reddit could have close to a billion users.//what in the world is good about that?

11:48:18 punkman: lets you swindle more investors

11:52:53 mircea_popescu: it's never making it. reddit is about in the position of paypal : time to sell it.

11:53:09 mircea_popescu: "in a few years" i will have killed it dead.

11:56:08 mircea_popescu: cazalla:hanbot, amusingly, once you navigate the new menus to change the dns, you get access to the old interface although it's heavily wrapped with the new one << takes a bunch of scripting to transaform new pos back into old thing but it can be done.

11:56:23 mircea_popescu: fucking "coders" today, you know, writing shit so other people have to write unshit so the world can keep functioning.

11:57:50 mircea_popescu: punkman: bounce, yeah "mobile first" <<< basically they're hiring imbecile 20somethings, that have grown up in the nazi party. they have one pow and one idea, and that's that.

11:58:20 mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history.

11:59:12 mircea_popescu: the "black impudence" notion is just about to make its entry into the world.

11:59:53 mircea_popescu: !up R7R

12:01:51 mircea_popescu: bounce:tablets aren't that mobile. but it certainly goes big on stupidity. it's trying to reinvent the web as some sort of "interactive broadcast", ie mainly one-way "interaction". the warm fuzzy feeling of teh intarwebz without them actually listening to you. not that you'd have anything to say, or that they'd listen in any case, but, you know. << EXACTLY fucking that omfg. exactly.

12:01:53 assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2PZ8QF6.txt )

12:01:53 mircea_popescu: !b 1

12:02:38 mircea_popescu: fucking midwestern braindead chemists trying to run the world. "dem darn kids like that darn interwebs so much how about i make myself an interweb shaped corn. that'll sell!"

12:03:47 mircea_popescu: assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word <<< you mean if you ask your enemy to let you do it ? lawl ok, great thinking there shelops!

12:05:38 mircea_popescu: cazalla: it was good for seeing if dns refreshed elsewhere as i've been waiting ages on my own connection <<< i love browsershots for this purpose.

12:08:43 mircea_popescu: bounce: usg redefines data collection << lol.

12:09:54 mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: i've heard that too. I'm more concerned with the poo. am a bit of a germ phobe.. rarely handle money unless i have to << http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo

12:09:55 assbot: George Carlin - Germs, Immune System - YouTube

12:09:57 mircea_popescu: im with him.

12:10:02 TomServo: !up devthedev

12:10:03 Azelphur: !up devthedev

12:10:32 RagnarDanneskjol: yea - thats a good one. carlin is right as usual

12:10:36 Azelphur: so apparently I have unsufficient rights, even though I'm already voiced

12:10:41 Azelphur: this makes sense \o/

12:10:48 mircea_popescu: Azelphur l1 vs l2.

12:10:51 TomServo: Same here - must need to reauth.

12:10:52 mircea_popescu: !up devthedev

12:10:57 devthedev: Thank you

12:10:59 Azelphur: ah

12:11:11 mircea_popescu: ;;ident TomServo

12:11:11 gribble: Nick 'TomServo', with hostmask 'TomServo!sewandsew@airportsecurity.junktouch.org', is not identified.

12:11:20 mircea_popescu: no actually, it's because you're unid'd.

12:11:24 mircea_popescu: ma bad.

12:11:43 Azelphur: oh I see, I really need to build gribble auth into my bouncer.

12:11:57 mircea_popescu: deedBot: deed 33588BE08B232B13 punkman with 1.5 signatures valid in next bundle << lolwut?!

12:12:10 mircea_popescu: Azelphur or just id when needed. safer that way.

12:12:19 mircea_popescu: the point of security features is for them to be secure not automated.

12:13:40 Azelphur: indeed, that's one of the reasons I haven't done it yet

12:13:57 jurov: <TheNewDeal> [20141001 04:41] cheers to jurov's local ta's predicting the mild upswing << what? it was tat, not my area man

12:14:31 jurov: http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/30/reddit-scoops-up-50m-series-b-from-sam-altman-a16z-sequoia-at-500m-valuation/?ncid=rss

12:14:31 assbot: Reddit Plans Its Own Cryptocurrency To Give Back To Its Users After $50 Million Raise | TechCrunch

12:14:42 jurov: ^god have mercy on us

12:14:46 mircea_popescu: ahahaha

12:14:57 mircea_popescu: bring it reddit. you're dead bitch.

12:18:12 TomServo: I thought doge was reddit's 'cryptocurrency'.

12:18:33 mircea_popescu: yes but doge i killed meanwhile. what'd you expect them to do, learn ?

12:18:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.0007464 = 25.2656 BTC [+]

12:19:07 mircea_popescu: they can't learn. they gotta try again. until mashed into pulp, old fizz caking on their ragged tshirt, redditards gotta try their redditardation again.

12:19:13 mircea_popescu: and again and again and again.

12:29:33 mats_cd03: :(

12:38:06 mircea_popescu: why sadface mats_cd03 ?

12:38:52 mats_cd03: watching people do dumb things makes me sad

12:40:51 mircea_popescu: eh, gotta learn to laff.

12:40:55 mircea_popescu: Il lavoro ? gioia, il lavoro ? allegria!

12:42:39 chetty: if its fun it isnt work, silly

12:43:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00074726 = 21.7453 BTC [+] {5}

12:43:41 mircea_popescu: lol

12:46:29 chetty: You all saw Ebola arrived in Texas?

12:48:18 mircea_popescu: yea

12:49:44 chetty: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BH0jZ_4CMAAQBEZ.jpg

12:50:09 RagnarDanneskjol: ha

12:56:51 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/bitbet-sbbet-september-2014-statement/

12:59:01 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ^ when you sign it, put the signed into deedsbot and just comment the link ?

12:59:04 RagnarDanneskjol: oohh deedbot signed statements. good thinkin - imma do that too

13:00:03 kakobrekla: dude...

13:00:23 kakobrekla: fine, but everybody must do it.

13:01:57 mircea_popescu: well ima do it anyway.

13:02:22 mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol kinda what it's for eh ?

13:02:56 RagnarDanneskjol: i hadnt thought through the many usecases quite yet

13:03:23 mircea_popescu: and let me open an imaginary bottle of virtual champagne for all the bitbet good news. not only is it finally out of arrears, but moreover, best month for incoming bets in history and shit.

13:03:38 mircea_popescu: who knew it'll beat the months when btc was 30 bux.

13:11:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00074348 = 15.9105 BTC [-] {2}

13:27:44 mircea_popescu: !up original_discobe

13:31:22 mircea_popescu: https://gop.com/happy-anniversary-obamacare/

13:31:23 assbot: Happy Anniversary ObamaCare | GOP

13:31:24 mircea_popescu: lulzy

13:38:30 nubbins`: mostly just boorish and classless

13:38:36 nubbins`: but sort of lulzy too, i guess

13:39:27 nubbins`: more in the sense of "we are a federal-level political party and our website is full of 'lel you other guise r dummyz' articles"

13:40:43 nubbins`: https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/

13:40:44 assbot: Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP

13:42:14 nubbins`: https://gop.com/nc-black-engagement-to-host-sweet-tea-and-politics-2/

13:42:15 assbot: NC Black Engagement To Host Sweet Tea and Politics | GOP

13:42:25 mircea_popescu: what's "classless" mean ?

13:42:27 nubbins`: "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"

13:42:31 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: boorish :/

13:42:40 mircea_popescu: uh.

13:42:49 nubbins`: i know it technically means something totally different

13:42:54 mircea_popescu: you know circular definitions are usually a symptom of deeper problems.

13:43:05 nubbins`: but i felt okay with redefining it for my needs

13:43:34 nubbins`: "unclassy" sounds so...

13:43:35 nubbins`: boorish.

13:44:49 mircea_popescu: ok, what;'s classy ?

13:46:40 nubbins`: stylish, elegant, refined

13:46:53 nubbins`: sophisticated

13:47:09 nubbins`: cosmopolitan, even

13:47:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00074345 = 19.6271 BTC [-] {2}

13:49:41 nubbins`: !up Diablo-D3

13:49:54 Diablo-D3: racist comment of the day

13:50:14 Diablo-D3: [09:42:27] <nubbins`> "The North Carolina Black Engagement Team"

13:50:28 Diablo-D3: but I thought black people didnt get married?

13:50:41 nubbins`: i didn't even think anyone did. it's 2014

13:51:28 mircea_popescu: i thought you were married

13:51:59 nubbins`: sure, yeah, but since when am i the barometer for sensible behaviour

13:52:26 Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: how dare you imply I'm black

13:52:36 mircea_popescu: anyway, the notion that the mockery of obamacare on the gop's site is unrefined and unstylish is hardly sensible. if they were going for the stylish they'd be in the democratic party.

13:52:41 Diablo-D3: oh you implied nubbins` is black

13:52:42 Diablo-D3: thats okay

13:52:48 mircea_popescu: i did ?

13:53:04 Diablo-D3: you implied someone is by virtue of context

13:53:14 mircea_popescu: maybe the context ain't as virtuous as you think her.

13:53:46 mircea_popescu: in fact, i have it under authority of some people i know that context's a total slut.

13:53:55 Diablo-D3: https://gop.com/george-hw-bush-socks/

13:53:56 assbot: Official George H.W. Bush Socks | GOP

13:54:04 Diablo-D3: thats just hilarious

13:54:38 nubbins`: not as hilarious as reading the logs

13:54:49 nubbins`: !s Official George H.W. Bush Socks

13:54:49 assbot: 1 results for 'Official George H.W. Bush Socks' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Official+George+H.W.+Bush+Socks

13:55:06 nubbins`: wat? fuck you gribs

13:55:19 nubbins`: i mean

13:55:27 nubbins`: bbl coffee

13:56:41 Diablo-D3: http://www.businessinsider.com/mispronounce-difficult-to-say-brands-2014-9

13:56:42 assbot: How To Pronounce Difficult To Say Brands - Business Insider

13:56:52 Diablo-D3: most of these brands probably dont exist

13:56:53 Diablo-D3: lol.

13:57:29 bounce: this vs those socks: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/18/JP-Morgan-Chase-CEO-Wears-Cuff-Links-Obama-Gave-Him-To-Hearing

13:57:29 assbot: JP Morgan Chase CEO Wears Cuff Links Obama Gave Him To Hearing

13:58:04 Diablo-D3: yeah I dont think obama gave him anything

13:58:15 Diablo-D3: its more of obama told his assistant to buy him something

13:59:40 *: kakobrekla pronounces brands even more incorrectly intentionally

14:01:44 mircea_popescu: lol

14:07:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10042 @ 0.00074368 = 7.468 BTC [+]

14:08:47 kakobrekla: ;;google champagne zapp brannigan

14:08:48 gribble: I believe it's pronounced champagne - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPyFRa39AMk; Zapp Brannigan (Character) - Quotes - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0013045/quotes; Zapp Brannigan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapp_Brannigan

14:08:49 kakobrekla: best.

14:09:32 kakobrekla: since i saw this, i try to remember to pronounce it like zapp

14:13:36 nubbins`: what degenerate would pronounce the S in Artois?

14:14:15 mircea_popescu: lol. ahahha.

14:15:34 nubbins`: "some people say baringer ingullum... it's really behringer ingelheim"

14:15:36 nubbins`: groan

14:16:13 nubbins`: some people say this video was worth watching, it's actually time i'll never get back

14:17:27 Diablo-D3: nubbins`: who the fuck would ORDER artois?

14:17:36 Diablo-D3: I dont eat things that I cant pronounce.

14:17:53 Diablo-D3: also, Ive heard of maybe 3 or 4 brands in that video

14:17:54 nubbins`: technically you don't eat beer

14:18:00 Diablo-D3: at least 2 of them are bullshit

14:18:04 nubbins`: besides, stella's nice. everybody would order one.

14:18:12 Diablo-D3: a) if you pronounce porche with the sha, you're a douchebag

14:18:29 Diablo-D3: b) no one mispronounces miele, and I live in one of the most uneducated areas of the world

14:18:47 nubbins`: america? :D

14:19:17 mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 what do you do in a pharmacy ?

14:19:34 mircea_popescu: or do you know how to say propanolol

14:19:42 Diablo-D3: lol.

14:20:05 mircea_popescu: heh

14:20:06 mircea_popescu: !up Diablo-D3

14:20:56 mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 caught in traffic : HOT DAMN! SOMEONE GIVE ME A COMPLEX AROMATIC COMPOUND NOMENCLATURE READING GUIDE

14:21:03 mircea_popescu: i'm eating up shit in here i never even heard of!!1

14:21:21 *: Diablo-D3 takes away mircea_popescu's crackpipe

14:21:37 mircea_popescu: dude at least i can pronounce crack.

14:21:57 mircea_popescu: in like 6 languages

14:26:14 nubbins`: "In 2001, El Al Airlines decided not to allow ultra-Orthodox Jews cover themselves in plastic because 'flight safety considerations do not allow for passengers to board while covered in sealed plastic bags.'"

14:29:43 bounce: "roflolol", "zomgdox", "nsfwclone", "osnappoetin", "yabaizafone", ... WHO stem book meets urban dictionary

14:34:47 nubbins`: o hey, they raised the minimum wage here in twodogland today

14:34:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00074332 = 21.5934 BTC [-] {2}

14:35:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37598 @ 0.00074464 = 27.997 BTC [+] {3}

14:36:03 RagnarDanneskjol: fukin looters

14:39:34 hanbot: mircea_popescu: dude at least i can pronounce crack. in like 6 languages << allah crackbar?

14:40:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00074317 = 15.0864 BTC [-] {2}

14:45:09 mircea_popescu: lmao

14:46:57 thickasthieves: thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w

14:46:57 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

14:47:41 thickasthieves: ftr i used orange and grey before bitcoin

14:52:38 nubbins`: grey is the new black

14:54:49 ben_vulpes: your pop culture references have been duly noted

14:58:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42900 @ 0.00074311 = 31.8794 BTC [-] {4}

14:58:57 nubbins`: that was a pop culture reference?

14:59:02 nubbins`: oh, wait, n/m

14:59:20 kakobrekla: !up deedBot

14:59:44 kakobrekla: .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2

14:59:46 deedBot: deed 27AF75321F2489E8 kakobrekla with 1 signature valid in next bundle

14:59:46 deedBot: Found 1 valid deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FqeR3jN2

14:59:51 kakobrekla: like dat?

15:00:42 nubbins`: ooooooo

15:00:58 nubbins`: what happens when the next bundle is ready? :D

15:01:07 kakobrekla: bomb i suppose

15:01:40 nubbins`: !s deedbot

15:01:41 assbot: 236 results for 'deedbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=deedbot

15:01:44 nubbins`: o

15:03:42 mircea_popescu: lol teh bomb

15:04:08 nubbins`: so what, deedbot just publishes shit to a website?

15:04:11 nubbins`: what am i missing here

15:06:12 mircea_popescu: the spec lol. only linked like 500 times in the chan

15:06:28 mircea_popescu: !s spec

15:06:29 assbot: 345 results for 'spec' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spec

15:06:32 nubbins`: heh.

15:06:40 nubbins`: actually found the github page, reading source now

15:07:07 mircea_popescu: nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2014#841838

15:07:08 assbot: Logged on 23-09-2014 03:26:15; mircea_popescu: dja recall the spec ?

15:07:08 mircea_popescu: there.

15:08:30 *: nubbins` nods

15:08:37 nubbins`: intredasting

15:09:31 thickasthieves: it's annoyng that we cant just put anything in the blockchain

15:09:47 nubbins`: if you could, people would be uploading disk images

15:10:11 thickasthieves: so have fees

15:10:15 nubbins`: it'd be unsyncable on day two

15:10:34 nubbins`: what you're describing is dropbox

15:10:37 nubbins`: :P

15:10:43 thickasthieves: i mean miner fees

15:10:54 thickasthieves: proportion to size of your tx

15:11:24 nubbins`: that benefits the miners, sure, but it's a huge detriment to everyone else running a node

15:11:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21010 @ 0.00074511 = 15.6548 BTC [+]

15:11:34 thickasthieves: so make node fees

15:11:40 nubbins`: "oh, shit, another 25TB to sync today"

15:11:53 thickasthieves: 25TB might cost 1000btc though

15:12:10 nubbins`: so goat pays 1000btc and now the blockchain is 25TB larger, forever

15:12:23 nubbins`: to the detriment of everyone

15:12:33 thickasthieves: stop stopping my dreams!

15:12:41 nubbins`: logic stops them!

15:12:52 thickasthieves: i'm just not dreaming hard enough

15:13:15 nubbins`: i think you're dreaming too hard as it is

15:13:18 bounce: doesn't "datacoin" try and allow for arbitrary chain storage?

15:13:30 Apocalyptic: yeah, that's even what it was designed for

15:13:36 nubbins`: gross

15:13:41 thickasthieves: i dont see how it would avoid problems mentioned

15:14:06 Apocalyptic: thickasthieves, nobody said it does

15:14:31 *: nubbins` imagines early adopter cashing out all datacoin, uploading massive file to blockchain as final act

15:14:48 kakobrekla: of CP

15:16:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50662 @ 0.00074764 = 37.8769 BTC [+] {3}

15:17:49 mircea_popescu: lol

15:21:19 deedBot: Bundled: 63581bfec02108fa941af106057dfdc3747fb0d3babbb334d95fff1da1b87406-1DYriNQB4tjyYMdXP8C3eWwFdzR8WVV4fc.txt

15:24:39 pete_dushenski: http://line-mode.cern.ch/www/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html

15:24:39 assbot: The World Wide Web project

15:25:02 pete_dushenski: ^"first website" from 1991

15:25:09 pete_dushenski: le fun!

15:27:29 RagnarDanneskjol: !up deedBot

15:29:34 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i've never seen anyone with more free time than south americans. << and no one with less free time than north americans. how, i ask you, are we all "americans" ?

15:30:17 thickasthieves: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iphonegun2.jpg

15:31:53 bounce: that's a good way to get yourself shot

15:33:41 asciilifeform: even without enemy. phone rings, draw, put to head - but drew from wrong holster.

15:33:53 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski just like the chinese are european

15:34:01 mircea_popescu: it's one continent after all :D

15:34:17 thickasthieves: what a guy cant own gun-shaped things without getting shot?

15:34:46 mircea_popescu: thickasthieves> i'm just not dreaming hard enough << maybe you're not dreaming out the right hole ?

15:34:59 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol they're not?? i thought that's why the chinese were good at shit.

15:35:25 mircea_popescu: the chinese are about as european as teh jooz.

15:35:39 pete_dushenski: khans spread ideas, tech between the two

15:35:43 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, google now sends me traffic for searches like "cum sa faci bani ca un evreu", ie, how to make $$$ like a joo.

15:35:54 pete_dushenski: lol wow

15:36:15 pete_dushenski: … that you're using google, that is

15:36:50 pete_dushenski: s/joo/buffett and you have north american ads.

15:37:14 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no i mean, to fraudsters. search traffic.

15:38:38 pete_dushenski: o i c

15:39:02 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu well you're sorta the king rabbi ;)

15:43:53 thickasthieves: http://www.pfhub.com/eu-says-apple-incs-irish-tax-deal-is-illegal-1240/

15:43:54 assbot: EU Says Apple Inc.'s Irish Tax Deal is Illegal

15:48:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31906 @ 0.00074999 = 23.9292 BTC [+]

15:58:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22095 @ 0.00074635 = 16.4906 BTC [-]

16:17:16 kakobrekla: deedBot needs to be registered with nickserv

16:19:39 dignork: mircea_popescu> dignork nah, you make n of k sets signed in pairs <<< not good enough, each pair will be able to blackmail others, non-existent problem in one-to one case.

16:20:43 mircea_popescu: how is a pair going to be able to blackmailk anyone ? there's no such thing as "group rape" as in, you've raped a group of two people.

16:20:52 mircea_popescu: texas used to have "enstrangement of affection" but it's gone.

16:21:29 mircea_popescu: !up dxrt

16:22:29 dignork: i mean side-attack: using the recording to blackmail others - payments for non-disclosure

16:23:52 dignork: could be avoided if we form pair keys, each one with court key, 2 out of 2 to redeem, but this also has different properties

16:27:32 mircea_popescu: oh, for non disclosure

16:27:40 mircea_popescu: who gives a shit, cunts want to be seen.

16:45:07 TomServo: http://www.shitexpress.com/

16:45:07 assbot: Shitexpress · Send a shit in a package around the world

16:50:53 RagnarDanneskjol: very nice

16:56:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47162 @ 0.00074975 = 35.3597 BTC [+] {3}

16:58:25 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if i were black in the us i would be fucking worried for my children. being ~10% of the population and >50% of the public discourse is how the hasidim suddenly disappeared from history. << 19th century?

17:02:26 jurov: !t m f.mpif

17:02:26 assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00020614 / 0.00021257 / 0.000219 (2 shares, 0.00 BTC)

17:02:50 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski moar like ww2.

17:02:52 jurov: pete_dushenski they were topic of discourse in 20th, too

17:03:41 pete_dushenski: a ty

17:04:23 jurov: Is the deedbot documented on wiki or somewhere?

17:04:34 jurov: i'd like to put f.mpif stuff there

17:04:58 pete_dushenski: "If you can imagine it, you can create it with Headway Themes Framework (http://semperfiwebdesign.com/headway/) . The intuitive drag and drop visual editor makes it easy for a newbie or a hobbyist to custom build a great design but also doesn't get in the way of a more experienced designer or developer!"

17:05:13 mircea_popescu: jurov not documented yet, but would be a good thing to do.

17:05:22 mircea_popescu: and yes, that's where the fmpiff stuff should go.

17:09:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9845 @ 0.00074635 = 7.3478 BTC [-]

17:13:30 RagnarDanneskjol: jurov - http://www.postalrocket.com/DEEDS/

17:13:31 assbot: DEEDS

17:15:50 RagnarDanneskjol: oh - I misread your Q

17:16:13 RagnarDanneskjol: https://github.com/bitrecruiter/deedBot

17:16:14 assbot: bitrecruiter/deedBot GitHub

17:16:24 jurov: i see... clicked and wtf is this? :D

17:16:42 RagnarDanneskjol: he redid much of it since the last commits

17:16:49 jurov: lol i have to reverse engineeer it?

17:17:12 RagnarDanneskjol: I'm gonna keep everything @ deedbot.com starting in a few days

17:17:38 RagnarDanneskjol: I'm already working with a coupla guys to get it done in pyth

17:17:59 bounce: such haste

17:18:19 jurov: RagnarDanneskjol okay, is there something usable in logs?

17:18:36 RagnarDanneskjol: usable as in?

17:18:52 jurov: as in something i can follow

17:19:00 RagnarDanneskjol: regarding

17:19:07 jurov: regarding putting a deed on

17:19:10 RagnarDanneskjol: OH

17:19:20 RagnarDanneskjol: demo sure pls standby

17:19:28 RagnarDanneskjol: !up deedBot

17:20:42 jurov: deedbot demo (nm, just bookmarking for later search)

17:21:01 RagnarDanneskjol: .deed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed

17:21:03 deedBot: deed B98228A001ABFFC7 asciilifeform with 1 signature valid in next bundle

17:21:03 deedBot: deed 35D2E1A0457E6498 RagnarDanneskjol with 1 signature valid in next bundle

17:21:03 deedBot: Found 2 valid deeds in https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RagnarDanneskjold/deedBot/1f4768c0e08a07250cc697872f4b66c1e5a1518c/test%20deed

17:21:30 deedBot: Bundled: 21d5bb1d9e68af011117813f3684c84bb33348da85fb51f8b55d62ec128fa912-14ZCTfozD6UhTSyz5hMiBKo5RE6Gqu34i6.txt

17:21:30 RagnarDanneskjol: now wait until the top of the hour, will report bundled deed once its done

17:21:47 RagnarDanneskjol: .dump

17:21:47 deedBot: time=1412184106 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=17

17:21:48 deedBot: DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (no pending deeds.)

17:21:51 RagnarDanneskjol: .balance

17:21:51 deedBot: deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu

17:21:51 deedBot: deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000

17:22:02 jurov: that's all? there is no micropayment needed or such?

17:22:44 RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance

17:22:52 RagnarDanneskjol: or autofountain was discussed

17:23:09 xanthyos: about to get my first medical checkup since 1999. wonder what they'll find

17:23:45 jurov: thx

17:23:50 RagnarDanneskjol: mhmm

17:26:23 jurov: RagnarDanneskjol: i suggest immediate publishing of deeds as paid service

17:26:47 jurov: will fund itself then

17:26:56 jurov: sry if that was already discussed

17:27:44 RagnarDanneskjol: the cost of deed is a fe cents, so believe the idea was to have someone throw a bitcoin in there and have enough to cover all deeds for a year

17:28:54 RagnarDanneskjol: as for immediate publishing - I am all in favor of immediacy. believe the idea was bundling multiple deeds over an hour into a single tx was more efficient, etc

17:35:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30605 @ 0.00074537 = 22.812 BTC [-] {2}

17:39:55 jurov: .deed http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc

17:39:56 deedBot: deed 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 jurov with 1 signature valid in next bundle

17:39:56 deedBot: Found 1 valid deed in http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201409.txt.asc

17:41:31 jurov: .dump

17:41:31 deedBot: time=1412185291 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=1202

17:41:32 deedBot: DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle)

17:42:56 RagnarDanneskjol: jurov, do you mind throwing a few bitcents in there.. it only has enough for a couple of deeds left

17:43:09 RagnarDanneskjol: 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu

17:43:17 jurov: ;;ident RagnarDanneskjol

17:43:18 gribble: Nick 'RagnarDanneskjol', with hostmask 'RagnarDanneskjol!~ragnardan@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'RagnarDanneskjol', with GPG key id 35D2E1A0457E6498, key fingerprint B4AF6458D7D8A2846F91807935D2E1A0457E6498, and bitcoin address 14ixghmHMcB4szGL3ue5WJ1qnjnWnQXiP6

17:43:22 jurov: okay

17:43:30 RagnarDanneskjol: i do not control the wallet

17:43:36 RagnarDanneskjol: MolokoDesk does

17:44:02 thickasthieves: what's the deal with usg only making current-year tax form PDFs available as "drafts"

17:44:17 thickasthieves: seems like they just want you to order printed versions

17:44:43 jurov: i guess you did not gave me forged address

17:45:40 RagnarDanneskjol: .balance

17:45:41 deedBot: deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00220000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu

17:45:41 deedBot: deedBot unconfirmed sent: -0.00022000

17:46:35 RagnarDanneskjol: oh -i miscounted a decimal spot - guess ther's enough for 20 deeds left

17:47:45 jurov: add that info to balance?

17:47:53 RagnarDanneskjol: good idea

17:48:32 RagnarDanneskjol: will push request onto git

17:50:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1514 @ 0.00074989 = 1.1353 BTC [+]

17:50:23 TomServo: !up deedBot

17:50:39 TomServo: !up deedBot

17:59:35 jurov: wanted to check if my trezor still works, so sent half a bitcent to deedbot

17:59:50 jurov: what i found out:

18:00:15 jurov: 1. mytrezor.com stopped working under linux (worked before in ff/konq)

18:00:49 jurov: 2. if you create tx, enter a PIN then cancel the transaction

18:01:02 jurov: then next transaction won't require pin

18:01:13 asciilifeform: 'For the love of God, Montrezor!'

18:01:23 asciilifeform: !s Montrezor

18:01:23 assbot: 3 results for 'Montrezor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=Montrezor

18:11:38 jurov: .dump

18:11:38 deedBot: time=1412187098 LAST_BUNDLE_TIME=1412184089 elapsed=3009

18:11:38 deedBot: DEEDBOT_CHAN=#bitcoin-assets ERROR_CHAN=MolokoDesk INTERVAL=3600 (1 deeds 1371 bytes in next bundle)

18:14:57 penguirker: New blog post: http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/01/F.MPIF-September-2014-trading-statement

18:29:51 RagnarDanneskjol: !up RagnarsBitch

18:30:51 DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone...

18:31:25 DoctorBTC: (and you guys in b-a are like the smartest people in the universe...)

18:38:45 jaycutler6969: DoctorBTC are you fred ehrsam ?

18:39:29 jaycutler6969: https://twitter.com/FEhrsam/status/501826516829741056

18:39:30 assbot: What is a compelling stat comparing growth in an environment of permission less innovation vs a similar one with friction?

18:39:31 DoctorBTC: jaycutler6969: you mean the coinbase guy? no

18:39:37 jaycutler6969: k

18:39:51 jaycutler6969: just similar question

18:40:22 DoctorBTC: you're right... just coincidence

18:40:31 Dimsler: coin incidence

18:40:54 *: DoctorBTC taps a rimshot...

18:44:35 punkman: DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... <- what kind of systems

18:44:52 jaycutler6969: DoctorBTC not sure this works for you, megaupload was some % point(s) of the total internet traffic at its peak

18:46:15 Dimsler: DoctorBTC, bittorrent

18:46:17 jurov: i actually think sweet spot is somewhere in the middle between decentralization and centralization

18:46:29 Dimsler: actually online piracy

18:46:33 Dimsler: would be the best example

18:47:50 Dimsler: then you can just cite %90 of all economies trading in gold shekels before the 1800s

18:51:39 DoctorBTC: punkman: i was thinking about historically... perhaps things in nature, civilization, businesses.

18:52:09 Dimsler: nature is always decentralized

18:52:30 Dimsler: you know what, your question blows

18:53:30 DoctorBTC: i know :P

18:55:03 DoctorBTC: I'm trying to get better at expressing some of these ideas and was hoping I could find some resource that could help me along.

19:21:02 thickasthieves: punkman, cities/countries make good examples

19:21:10 thickasthieves: EU sux

19:21:15 thickasthieves: small country does not

19:21:34 thickasthieves: also i see decentralization as a phenomenon or design choice for a system

19:21:40 thickasthieves: not better or worse in and of itself

19:23:05 thickasthieves: oh wait it was doctorbtc that asked

19:24:07 thickasthieves: <+Dimsler> nature is always decentralized /// depends what you mean by nature

19:24:27 thickasthieves: centralization is order

19:24:35 thickasthieves: order can naturally occur and does

19:24:47 Dimsler: man made order is chaos

19:24:54 Dimsler: just like centralization

19:24:59 thickasthieves: if youre trying to be cute, sure

19:25:01 thickasthieves: but, no

19:25:23 thickasthieves: manmade order is intervention

19:26:02 Dimsler: you're argueing semantics at best.

19:26:32 thickasthieves: op asked for examples/definition

19:26:35 thickasthieves: i am trying

19:27:33 thickasthieves: youre the one that said manmade is chaos

19:27:49 Dimsler: it is

19:28:12 thickasthieves: and other than to use the abstract concept of man's iatrogenic effect as a juxtaposition, that's just false

19:28:30 thickasthieves: to create is to make order

19:28:33 Dimsler: how do you articulate that

19:28:39 Dimsler: since it interjects in natural order

19:28:57 Dimsler: which is the undeniable foundation of life

19:29:16 thickasthieves: ?

19:29:22 thickasthieves: youre out there man

19:29:29 thickasthieves: not sure if i can reel you in

19:29:43 Dimsler: lol

19:29:44 thickasthieves: chaos doesnt mean "bad"

19:29:50 Dimsler: nobody said it did

19:29:55 thickasthieves: you just did

19:30:26 thickasthieves: saying it disrupts natural, which is "undeniable foundation of life

19:30:30 Dimsler: man post me the line where i say in any negative connotation that chaos is bad

19:31:11 Dimsler: sure, but using penecillin to interject as a form of medicine is also a disruption

19:31:31 thickasthieves: you are talking about effects

19:31:49 Dimsler: interjection in natural order

19:31:57 thickasthieves: whether something is chaos or not is not tied to its effects

19:32:10 Dimsler: thats right

19:32:15 thickasthieves: chaos can cause order too

19:32:29 Dimsler: again back to semantics

19:32:33 Dimsler: lol

19:32:44 thickasthieves: lol this guy

19:32:53 thickasthieves: what does this mean? no that's semantics!

19:33:07 punkman: ;;wp entropy

19:33:08 gribble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy | In thermodynamics, entropy (usual symbol S) is a measure of the number of specific ways in which a thermodynamic system may be arranged, commonly ...

19:34:23 thickasthieves: ;;wd semantic

19:34:23 gribble: Error: "wd" is not a valid command.

19:34:30 thickasthieves: ''wp semantic

19:34:34 thickasthieves: ...

19:34:41 thickasthieves: ;;wp semantic

19:34:42 gribble: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics | Semantics (from Ancient Greek: σημαντικός sēmantikós, "significant") is the study of meaning. It focuses on the relation between signifiers, like words, phrases, ...

19:34:47 Dimsler: ;;wd semantics

19:34:47 gribble: Error: "wd" is not a valid command.

19:35:15 thickasthieves: cant explore meaning without being semantic

19:35:31 Dimsler: the meaning was already expressed

19:35:58 thickasthieves: and i disagreed with it

19:36:10 Dimsler: no you didn't, you went and agreed with it

19:36:22 thickasthieves: troll time is over

19:36:47 Dimsler: i thought it was pb and j time?

19:39:54 thickasthieves: maybe it's decentralization is a defensive quality, centralization is an aggressive/offensive one

19:46:12 punkman: anyone use this thing http://grsecurity.net/ ?

19:46:12 assbot: grsecurity

19:49:17 mircea_popescu: mnope.

19:51:01 mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: someones will fund the seed address in advance << im putting a cent in there.

19:51:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33326 @ 0.00074375 = 24.7862 BTC [-] {2}

19:51:41 mircea_popescu: jurov: sry if that was already discussed << it was, yea.

19:52:39 mircea_popescu: jurov: then next transaction won't require pin << lmao such security.

19:53:01 mircea_popescu: DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << have them ask here.

19:53:08 mircea_popescu: i hope you appreciate the meta-win involved.

19:56:30 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

19:56:32 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 384.31, Best ask: 385.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.12000, Last trade: 385.44, 24 hour volume: 15008.52128967, 24 hour low: 377.01, 24 hour high: 397.75, 24 hour vwap: 386.228051414

19:56:55 penguirker: New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/10/01/were-leading-you-away-from-golden-calves-and-towards-happiness/

19:57:27 pete_dushenski: ^little bit of kant for your wednesday afternoon :D

19:57:52 *: danielpbarron slaps Dimsler around a bit with a decentralized trout

19:58:21 Dimsler: must worship mammon

19:59:34 mircea_popescu: can't we worship mammaries instead ?

19:59:41 Dimsler: only big ones

19:59:55 Dimsler: itty bitty titty committee need not apply

20:00:21 pete_dushenski: DoctorBTC: Can anyone point me to somewhere that has examples of decentralized systems winning over centralized systems? I'm having trouble explaining something to someone... << ya, torrents, blogs, non-soviet restaurants

20:00:57 mircea_popescu: sex!

20:08:05 mircea_popescu: "During this marriage he had an extended affair with his wife's younger sister Lady Alexandra Metcalfe, and with their stepmother, Grace Curzon, Marchioness Curzon of Kedleston, the U.S.-born second wife and widow of Lord Curzon of Kedleston."

20:08:07 mircea_popescu: dem brits.

20:09:15 Dimsler: http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/124961.jpg

20:10:16 mircea_popescu: .balance

20:10:24 mircea_popescu: !up deedBot

20:10:27 mircea_popescu: .balance

20:10:28 deedBot: deedBot BTC available balance: 0.00709000 in wallet 1NTSD9jVvumurTotaW7Crqe5DfRxBrJzqu

20:10:40 mircea_popescu: eh.

20:12:02 pete_dushenski: Dimsler: lulz

20:21:42 deedBot: Bundled:

20:22:46 nubbins`: so

20:23:09 nubbins`: by what method is the deed hashed to obtain the privkey / address?

20:23:47 nubbins`: or, put another way, how do i know transaction X represents arbitrary deed Y?

20:25:18 mircea_popescu: nubbins` well this point was still being worked upon. the spec calls for the hash to be used as the privkey for the destination of the tx.

20:25:37 mircea_popescu: punkman tho says this doesn't work and molokodesk hasn't been back to clarify.

20:25:45 mircea_popescu: might need some more work there.

20:25:53 nubbins`: yeah, that's the only piece i'm missing

20:28:16 nubbins`: ah, found it

20:28:16 nubbins`: http://dpaste.com/2ZSJKRG

20:28:17 assbot: dpaste: 2ZSJKRG

20:29:10 nubbins`: at first glance, this function seems to be a bit wanky

20:29:39 mircea_popescu: myeah

20:29:45 mircea_popescu: this needs a rewrite

20:32:39 mircea_popescu: if anyone's looking for how to go key->address, https://github.com/weex/addrgen is probably a good example implementation

20:32:40 assbot: weex/addrgen GitHub

20:33:19 nubbins`: ah, i was looking for a bare-bones implementation of this the other day

20:34:14 punkman: you just need an ecdsa library and base58

20:35:14 hanbot: kinda cool to have an implementation made to be broken.

20:35:43 hanbot: who knows what may get discovered

20:36:21 nubbins`: a nice companion tool on the deeds website would be a small form w/ textbox and button where one can generate pub/priv keys by the same method

20:36:40 hanbot: website genberated private key?

20:37:33 nubbins`: only if you have no idea how to properly give your web server access to sensitive data ;/

20:38:17 nubbins`: as it is right now, i register a deed, some bot sends a few satoshis to an address, and i just sort of hope that this isn't just a random tx

20:39:21 nubbins`: because there's no easy way for me to verify that the priv/pub keys were, in fact, generated from the text of the deed

20:39:21 hanbot: oh you mean you don't want to actually do the work of verifying and would rather rely on the website's claim?

20:39:43 *: nubbins` groans

20:39:48 nubbins`: yeah. that's what i mean.

20:39:56 hanbot: :)

20:40:36 nubbins`: if i'm doing the work of verifying, i might as well just publish my own fucking deed, no?

20:41:21 hanbot: for your own use you mean?

20:41:31 nubbins`: let's back up a few steps.

20:41:39 nubbins`: what, in your mind, is the utility of deedbot?

20:42:14 mike_c: the utility is to be able to verify you said something specific in the past.

20:42:15 hanbot: that nubbins puts a deed there and someone else verifies the hashing (through, i understand, spending the input).

20:43:07 hanbot: mircea_popescu, i guess the trick you're not sharing here is that you'll be adding mining to this later on, huh?

20:43:10 nubbins`: okay. so why don't i just plug the text of my deed into brainwallet.org, and send the money there?

20:43:12 hanbot: a random digit or two or three.

20:43:31 nubbins`: why am i getting a bot to do it for me?

20:43:38 dignork: why not just verifying btc address equality to deed's hash?

20:44:03 hanbot: nubbins`, why do you use gribble for that matter, you could just sneakernet to nanotube

20:44:13 nubbins`: because gribble is convenient.

20:44:20 hanbot: right.

20:44:33 nubbins`: just like deedbot would be convenient, if i could use it to verify that the right address has been generated.

20:44:35 hanbot: also because it's what happens to be used.

20:44:43 hanbot: but it could lie to you.

20:45:01 nubbins`: it sure could!

20:45:06 mike_c: brainwallet method: you could prep 10 slightly different statements and pull out the most convenient one.

20:45:11 mike_c: not so with deed registry

20:45:19 nubbins`: that's why we all keep our own files, and we don't use ;;gettrust or ;;ident, right?

20:45:34 nubbins`: mike_c: what?

20:45:46 hanbot: mike_c, that's a good point!

20:46:18 mike_c: i want to prove that in july i said X, but with your method I may have prepped a few brainwallet messages and now be showing you one of them.

20:46:32 nubbins`: how is this different from just registering a few different deeds?

20:46:44 mike_c: i would be able to look at registry and see you prepped a few messages.

20:46:46 punkman: you can diy

20:46:49 punkman: same thing

20:47:03 nubbins`: and i'd be able to look at the blockchain and see you prepped a few messages

20:47:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00074568 = 9.4701 BTC [+]

20:47:31 nubbins`: luckily, when we shook hands, we both new which btc address was the one we were using

20:47:42 nubbins`: so it doesn't matter how many extra statements the other party created.

20:47:48 nubbins`: *knew

20:48:00 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i dun get it. what's inconvenient ?

20:48:32 nubbins`: mircea_popescu it's inconvenient for me to verify that deedbot has registered my actual deed, instead of, say, $rand

20:48:33 mircea_popescu: hanbot holy shit how did you figure that one out ?

20:48:39 mircea_popescu: nubbins` why ?

20:49:03 nubbins`: because i don't have any tools with which to verify it

20:49:06 mircea_popescu: copy/paste the code on its github in your fav ide and run it.

20:49:06 punkman: because I didn't write the verifier script yet

20:49:19 nubbins`: yeah yeah

20:49:26 nubbins`: my fave IDE is the deedbot website tho

20:49:37 mircea_popescu: nubbins` your idea is broken because if the site will hash $rand it could as well print the "verification" for it.

20:50:06 nubbins`: it could indeed, yep

20:50:08 mircea_popescu: this is why you don't get your certificate from the same party you get the goods.

20:50:15 mircea_popescu: so there's no way to eschew a little work here.

20:50:22 hanbot: mircea_popescu ;)

20:50:24 BingoBoingo: Oh I thought Deedbot was using bundle hashes as pub keys and letting privates remain a mystery

20:50:39 nubbins`: BingoBoingo that'd be quite the trick

20:50:39 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no. private keys. so that lazy people can at least see the input was spent

20:50:45 punkman: BingoBoingo: that's what it does now

20:50:48 mircea_popescu: and figure hey, *SOMEONE* musta verified this

20:51:06 mircea_popescu: punkman you wanna fix this btw ?

20:52:08 mircea_popescu: !up sensorii

20:56:10 pete_dushenski: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/argentina-deposits-debt-payment-defying-us-judge-142317168.html

20:56:12 assbot: Argentina deposits debt payment, defying US judge - Yahoo Finance

20:56:34 punkman: mircea_popescu: not rly, maybe I'd be up for rewriting it into a supybot plugin

20:58:41 mircea_popescu: punkman that may be an idea, actually.

21:00:46 mircea_popescu: !up CheckDavid

21:01:31 CheckDavid: Thanks mircea_popescu

21:01:54 CheckDavid: Any businesses looking to hire or professionals looking for a job in the bitcoin community around here?

21:04:17 mircea_popescu: kinda too vague.

21:04:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9436 @ 0.00074568 = 7.0362 BTC [+]

21:04:24 bounce: you got anything specific in mind, other than starting your own brand new shiny recruitment agency?

21:04:47 CheckDavid: mircea_popescu: is it bad to be vague?

21:04:54 CheckDavid: Its kind of the point.

21:05:16 mircea_popescu: noun atribute verb complement in response to your inquiry.

21:05:34 CheckDavid: You lost me there

21:05:39 mircea_popescu: exactly.

21:06:15 punkman: also "bitcoin community" carries certain negative connotations around here

21:06:20 CheckDavid: Lol bounce what else would I have in mind?

21:06:58 CheckDavid: punkman: oh really? Is the btc community so big that it is already seen as a bunch of maniacs looks for a quick profit or something?

21:07:53 mircea_popescu: nah, "bitcoin community" is where the disco crowd moved, now that travolta's had his sex change operation.

21:08:21 mircea_popescu: ;;google disco boy

21:08:21 gribble: Shantel DISKO BOY - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be7O4m9rOZE; Frank Zappa - Disco Boy - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLTOc2TVAs8; Shantel Disco boy (LYRICS) - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQx3_EBYbcs

21:08:28 *: bounce does not particularly like recruiters.

21:08:40 mircea_popescu: bounce bad history ?

21:08:47 BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: Know any university libraries hiring a BTC librarian?

21:09:58 jurov: !s stone soup

21:09:59 assbot: 5 results for 'stone soup' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=stone+soup

21:10:13 jurov: ^ not his first time

21:10:16 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe i'm way off the mark here, but if you ran a university wouldn't you hire your own cocksucker as a librarian ?

21:10:34 CheckDavid: BingoBoingo: just for reference. What do you understand by the term BTC librarian?

21:10:57 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, you hire the cocksuckers as Deans

21:11:32 mircea_popescu: Deanna the Cocksucking Dean and the Mysterious Alien Fanged Pie

21:11:35 mircea_popescu: i'd watch that.

21:12:01 BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: University wants a librarian working in the reference Department specializing in Bitcoin information resources. Someone will be hiring for that by 2024.

21:12:54 CheckDavid: BingoBoingo: if CoinHR is still around by 2023 we will do our best to get you a position

21:13:03 BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: Thanks

21:13:05 CheckDavid: :D

21:13:14 BingoBoingo: I plan to be around that long.

21:13:23 BingoBoingo: Even though my hitpoints are finite

21:13:24 CheckDavid: Actually that's a cool job.

21:13:35 CheckDavid: Not much stress in a library

21:13:43 BingoBoingo: Oh, there can be

21:13:55 CheckDavid: Yes there csn

21:13:57 CheckDavid: *can

21:14:14 BingoBoingo: Last couple weeks at the end of the semester when people need to write all of those paper they put on the backburner.

21:14:28 CheckDavid: Lol

21:14:57 CheckDavid: By the way. In the meantime would you like to be considered for other possibly similar positions?

21:14:59 BingoBoingo: At some point their paper requires information that isn't readily googleavle

21:15:15 BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: At the moment I'm working on getting as extended as I can.

21:15:27 CheckDavid: Extended?

21:15:31 bounce: HR in general is fantastibad at handling candidates. recruiters amazingly aren't better, though it's what they do all day.

21:15:31 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

21:16:09 BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: You know, my time could be pushed to the max if something discussed here goes through.

21:16:30 CheckDavid: Oh I see

21:17:32 BingoBoingo: Some sort of Australasian Journalism Startup with rabbits.

21:17:49 CheckDavid: Aren't rabbits a plague in Australia?

21:17:57 mircea_popescu: bounce all my experiences with hr are under the sheets.

21:18:00 CheckDavid: Not sure about Asia

21:18:05 mircea_popescu: pretty hot chicks.

21:18:20 mircea_popescu: i guess i missed a resource pun in there huh

21:18:49 BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: Well sure. Doesn't mean they aren't delicious though. What better way to fight an endangered species than with cornbread stuffing and a pad of butter?

21:18:51 CheckDavid: Lol

21:19:39 BingoBoingo: So personal blog just got a referral from Bing for the term "dystopian bingo"

21:19:39 CheckDavid: Man no idea. I think that's illegal.

21:20:04 bounce: yes, well, not quite the same as being on the phone to some guy, getting fobbed off because you called them and they didn't call you. (literally, yes)

21:20:20 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo put it in librarian cv!

21:20:34 mircea_popescu: bounce why would you call them anyway.

21:20:44 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It goes in the evil Librarian CV

21:21:54 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/mpex-smpoe-september-2014-statement/

21:21:56 bounce: or sending a message inquiring about a specific job to a "hi! we're new and exciting!" bunch, never getting an answer but ending up thorougly on their spamlist with their wonderful! new! exciting! candidate matching system. they kept on spamming business intelligence jobs because in the "profile" they'd cooked up for me without permission was "DEBIAN" somewhere. that's how good they were.

21:22:14 mircea_popescu: SAMSUNG GT-S7500/S7500BUMB1 Build/GINGERBREAD << motherfucker samsung and its capslock

21:22:59 mircea_popescu: bounce well yes but this speaks more to the "seo expert/web2.0 designer/bitcoin communitard/social expert" crowd of white nigerian kids floating around aimlessly

21:23:02 mircea_popescu: than to hr per se.

21:23:34 mircea_popescu: if tomorrow it becomes fashionable for them to pretend like they're car salesmen, that won't be the #1 reason car salesmen suck

21:23:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.00074638 = 22.3168 BTC [+]

21:24:48 bounce: if there's any recruiter in the IT space doing better than that, I haven't seen'em.

21:24:55 mircea_popescu: course that's easier in theory than in practice. i know i'm making real efforts to not start hating gays just because these fucktards imagine they can claim it in their doomed but vapid quest for appearing speshul.

21:26:32 mircea_popescu: bounce that may be a numbers game. in a workin economy there's call for maybe 1 worker in 1k ? 10k ? doing hr. in the us like 1/5 of the work force is employed doing that. prima facie your odds are 99.x% of dealing with an impostor.

21:28:15 bounce: dunno if the scores I contacted, tried to anyway, were all impostors. all in europe, though. all over europe.

21:28:40 mircea_popescu: what were you trying to get anyway ?

21:30:39 bounce: something ITish. programming, sysadmin, netadmin, you name it. as long as it involves a unix and not windows. (Oh yes, the "not enough unix on the CV" girl, when half a dozen flavours listed. sheesh.)

21:31:13 bounce: anyway, I stopped talking to recruiters a long time ago. just not worth the hassle.

21:32:21 dub: theres likely to a be a problem right there

21:32:44 mircea_popescu: bounce hm, it really shouldn't be that hard.

21:32:59 dub: Hi im bounce, I'd liek to be a programmer, or a bullfighter, or an ASTRONAUT!

21:33:01 bounce: could be the problem is that these are "social" people, and think nothing of a "white lie"... that IT people tend to see, in their mind's eye, flagged in neon red and yellow, marked "untruth!"

21:33:02 mircea_popescu: does linux even have half a dozen flavours ?

21:33:09 dub: i wouldnt get back to you either

21:33:10 mircea_popescu: deb, rhel and gentoo. what else ?

21:33:24 mircea_popescu: dub lion tamer ?

21:34:30 bounce: linux has scores of flavours, but I think I maybe listed two

21:34:47 mircea_popescu: a nm, you said unix.

21:35:42 dub: Cause like, im a gamer, so I know computers

21:36:35 mircea_popescu: speaking of recruiters and astronauts, did anything lulzy come out of those gentoo repackaging kids RagnarsBitch ?

21:38:24 *: bounce has much, much less trouble with people that do have some unixy background. such people don't end up lying through their teeth "nicing up" word documents all day.

21:38:57 dub: well guess waht, NOBODY vetting yoru CV has unix backbround, ever

21:39:15 BingoBoingo: !up deedBot

21:39:21 BingoBoingo: .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bhTvgWiR

21:39:25 deedBot: deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.

21:39:25 deedBot: Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bhTvgWiR

21:39:43 mircea_popescu: BOGUS!

21:39:45 mircea_popescu: !up CoJaBo

21:41:34 BingoBoingo: .deed http://pastebin.com/bhTvgWiR

21:41:34 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com

21:41:35 deedBot: deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.

21:41:35 deedBot: Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/bhTvgWiR

21:41:35 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com

21:41:53 dub: the trick is tailoring your approach for the asshole you are applying to

21:42:09 mircea_popescu: that sad day when your server log for a month is 3.9mn lines ;/

21:42:51 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/10/01/atc-trading-september-2014-statement/

21:44:10 mircea_popescu: that even sadder day when you think to yourself what the shit, 4mn lines shouldn't take that long only to notice that the digits were so numerous you actually missed one

21:53:48 bounce: !up pentestr

21:54:05 pentestr: thanks bounce

21:54:21 deedBot: deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.

21:54:22 deedBot: Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/9tkEJ3RW

21:54:23 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com

21:54:36 pentestr: I found some critical vulnerabilities on BitBet.us, they said we can discuss with the staff on this channel?

21:54:53 Dimsler: yes

21:55:07 Dimsler: only if you answer the secret question correctly

21:55:19 pentestr: Dimsler: and that is?

21:55:20 Dimsler: sabrina salerno or samantha fox?

21:55:25 pentestr: lol

21:55:29 pentestr: im being serious at the moment

21:56:15 pentestr: AND SOMEBODY KICK this sam0 guy. or better, ban him.

21:56:16 pentestr: ugh

21:56:29 Dimsler: mircea_popescu, you have a customer

21:56:49 mircea_popescu: yea srsly.

21:57:00 mircea_popescu: pentestr go ahead.

21:57:11 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell samO fix your connection will you.

21:57:12 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:57:29 pentestr: mircea_popescu: your webserver can be compromised and transactions can be intercepted

21:57:53 Dimsler: through which exploit?

21:58:18 pentestr: buffer overflow through a dangling pointer as well as possible sqli

21:58:34 Dimsler: ehhhhh

21:58:46 pentestr: but i don't think that this would be the right place to discuss?

21:58:50 mircea_popescu: pentestr well, can you demonstrate this ?

21:59:04 pentestr: to hack into your website?

21:59:05 pentestr: sure

21:59:13 Dimsler: i think you'd have a tough time doing stack overflows on apache

21:59:29 Dimsler: curious my self

21:59:31 mircea_popescu: pentestr put your nick in there or something.

21:59:41 pentestr: setup a html file on your server that i can access through http://www.bitbet.us/pentestr.html saying that i have permission to hack your server/website

21:59:41 assbot: Not Found

21:59:55 mircea_popescu: ;;ident

21:59:55 gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None

21:59:57 pentestr: i dont want you pressing charges later on

22:00:01 mircea_popescu: that should be good enough.

22:00:03 Dimsler: pentestr, hes the owner

22:00:06 pentestr: not really

22:00:07 Dimsler: and this channel is pretty secure

22:00:07 pentestr: its not

22:00:25 mircea_popescu: well unless kako shows up this'll have to wait then.

22:00:35 pentestr: your call

22:00:43 pentestr: im online for another hour or so

22:00:45 thickasthieves: someone was giving out bitcoin jobs and i missed it?

22:00:51 mircea_popescu: thickasthieves just your luck.

22:01:04 Dimsler: thickasthieves, yes but they pay in litecoins

22:01:15 bounce: how about a PoC in gpg email to kako then?

22:01:23 BingoBoingo: .deed http://pastebin.com/4jHz0QHu

22:01:23 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com

22:01:23 deedBot: deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.

22:01:23 deedBot: Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/4jHz0QHu

22:01:24 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com

22:01:57 Dimsler: i wonder if it'll overflow enough for an sqli injection

22:02:06 mircea_popescu: yeah, what bounce said. or in a pastebin, you can gpg it to my key.

22:02:11 mircea_popescu: pentestr ^

22:02:38 pentestr: bounce: nah, that'll just give you the vuln to fix.. i'll just hack it, he gave me perms after all.

22:02:53 bounce: heaven forbid the problem gets fixed

22:03:10 mircea_popescu: bounce maybe the guy's new here.

22:03:45 thickasthieves: shouldnt the hack be to mess with the logo? wasnt that the old bounty?

22:03:56 thickasthieves: make it say Got Doge?

22:04:01 pentestr: whats the bounty amount?

22:04:05 Dimsler: dogestyle

22:04:08 bounce: IP from india, language typical for a <20y/o 1337 PHPer... sure.

22:04:22 thickasthieves: it may have been a bet

22:04:30 mircea_popescu: shit there was a logo bounty ages ago wasn't there.

22:04:30 Dimsler: yeah cause everyone uses there real country / ip in here

22:04:31 Dimsler: lol

22:04:32 mircea_popescu: got a link thickasthieves ?

22:04:49 pentestr: bounce: socks 5

22:04:51 thickasthieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/

22:04:51 assbot: BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 :: 10.5 B (98%) on Yes, 0.2 B (2%) on No | closed 9 months 1 week ago

22:05:17 mircea_popescu: o that. myeah.

22:05:18 thickasthieves: dunno if you did a bounty on fraudsters

22:05:27 thickasthieves: doubt it

22:05:31 mircea_popescu: no lol. dumbass wordpress, i wouldn't bounty a wart on it

22:05:51 thickasthieves: i mean about butbet

22:06:22 mircea_popescu: ;;google fraudsters hack bitbet bounty

22:06:23 gribble: The anatomy of a scam. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/; S.MG - The Ministry of Games. - Bitcoin Forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=224634.0;all

22:06:28 mircea_popescu: apparently niet.

22:06:32 pentestr: bounce: you got the age right though

22:06:59 Dimsler: nio

22:07:03 Dimsler: its not possible

22:07:16 mircea_popescu: famous last words ?

22:07:17 Dimsler: won't be able to do the sqli injection

22:07:35 thickasthieves: pentestr shoulda made a bitbet then contacted you

22:07:41 Dimsler: LOL

22:07:53 thickasthieves: no one knows how to entrepreneur these days

22:08:00 thickasthieves: :)

22:08:06 mircea_popescu: lol

22:12:05 thickasthieves: market is really taking this news hard http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-bbet/

22:12:07 assbot: S.BBET Analysis - Btc Alpha

22:12:23 pentestr: Sorry, went to take a dump

22:12:34 pentestr: Dimsler: oh really? and why do you think so?

22:12:56 Dimsler: worst case will happen is you'll just crash the server

22:13:11 pentestr: thats a dos

22:13:17 pentestr: not interesting enough to execute

22:13:23 pentestr: and noisy + risky

22:13:30 thickasthieves: no need to debate, you already said you cna prove it

22:13:55 mircea_popescu: well maybe he wants to debate! isn't this the internet ?

22:14:07 thickasthieves: i'm just debating here, lay off!

22:14:15 Dimsler: debasing

22:14:18 mircea_popescu: no, you're not debating, im debating.

22:14:26 thickasthieves: semantics

22:14:28 Dimsler: deluminate

22:14:32 mircea_popescu: look, this isn't an argument.

22:14:40 Dimsler: thickasthieves, mmm chaos

22:14:42 mircea_popescu: if you want to argue you'll have to do it in your spare time!

22:14:52 thickasthieves: we'll have to agree to disagree on this one

22:15:00 Dimsler: thickasthieves, you know the best example of chaos right?

22:15:02 mircea_popescu: im disagreeing to not agree.

22:15:14 pentestr: you people are weird

22:15:18 pentestr: just wait for the hack

22:15:23 Dimsler: pilate asked the jews to pick either barabaos "logos" or jesus "order"

22:15:25 pentestr: i'll email you a poc in around 40mins

22:15:28 Dimsler: they choose logos

22:15:31 pentestr: trying to get some shell-code right..

22:15:33 Dimsler: chaos

22:15:33 mircea_popescu: ;;google waiting for the night to fall when everything is hack-abol

22:15:34 gribble: the book of honor -- the two mikes - American Buddha: http://www.american-buddha.com/bookhonor.7.htm; Full text of "Leo M. Frank. The Dead Shall Rise by Steve Oney": https://archive.org/stream/LeoM.Frank.TheDeadShallRiseBySteveOney/DeadShallRise_djvu.txt; Where's Walden? » 2008 » June: http://whereswalden.com/2008/06/

22:15:39 Dimsler: made a billion member religion off of it

22:15:39 mircea_popescu: bah shit googsy.

22:15:53 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z-fyNdnOKE

22:15:53 assbot: depeche mode - waiting for the night (1990) - YouTube

22:15:59 thickasthieves: dimsler that is simply the best example of chaos ive ever heard

22:16:50 Dimsler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos

22:16:50 assbot: Logos - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

22:17:06 thickasthieves: they prbly thought he meant brand logos

22:17:09 thickasthieves: everyone loves those

22:17:17 Dimsler: maybe legos

22:17:26 thickasthieves: !

22:18:42 Dimsler: er logos and chaos

22:18:44 Dimsler: lol

22:18:58 Dimsler: barabus was chaos

22:19:26 thickasthieves: would you like to know a great example of order?

22:19:34 Dimsler: logos was order

22:20:15 thickasthieves: some guys got together and made a billion member religion

22:20:18 mats_cd03: would anyone like to wager on the likelihood this exploit is going to materialize

22:20:38 Dimsler: for or against?

22:20:44 thickasthieves: pentestr would

22:21:03 pentestr: mircea_popescu: give me your email address and pgp public key block?

22:21:03 mats_cd03: for, im dubious

22:21:20 pentestr: mats_cd03: wager nay and loose your money punk

22:21:42 mats_cd03: i think this makes it interesting

22:22:09 pentestr: it sure does

22:22:25 pentestr: and is that guy - mircea_popescu - offline or something?

22:22:40 thickasthieves: probly just writing a treatise on something

22:22:44 thickasthieves: he'll be back

22:22:55 punkman: what's critical anyway

22:23:18 punkman: if you can't steal coins, not sure it's so important

22:23:22 pentestr: need to run multiple proxies because your stupid server has a dumbass firewall that thinks that blocking ip's with repeated requests will prevent a hack

22:23:28 pentestr: and that means i can't be connected to chat

22:23:44 pentestr: punkman: i can you dumbass.. thats what i said, didn't i?

22:23:56 pentestr: [03:27] <+pentestr> mircea_popescu: your webserver can be compromised and transactions can be intercepted

22:24:05 thickasthieves: if he can make web pages he can intercept coins at the very least

22:24:40 pentestr: thickasthieves: dont need to make web pages.. just need to edit the ones you have and put in my own wallet addresses to receive the bet amounts.

22:24:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23982 @ 0.00074747 = 17.9258 BTC [+] {2}

22:24:55 Dimsler: !up pentestr

22:25:03 mats_cd03: thats what hes talking about

22:25:14 thickasthieves: pentestr pretty much what i meant

22:25:21 pentestr: kk

22:25:22 mircea_popescu: aww dude, why so aggro anyway ?

22:25:39 pentestr: weed

22:25:39 thickasthieves: you try being 19 and hacking bitbet all day

22:25:56 mircea_popescu: just pastebin to my key.

22:26:03 pentestr: thickasthieves: great joke bruh.

22:26:10 thickasthieves: ty

22:26:14 Dimsler: yeah i know

22:26:14 pentestr: mircea_popescu: hit me

22:26:18 bounce: haxx all day and no kudos make pentestr a dull boy

22:26:32 pentestr: lol

22:26:41 pentestr: where do all of you minions come from?

22:26:48 pentestr: i get your kinda rich and shit

22:26:54 pentestr: but why be gay?

22:26:55 Dimsler: well they hover around

22:27:03 Dimsler: hoping to get rich quick by association

22:27:04 thickasthieves: i like this guy

22:27:12 mats_cd03: im here for the cake and tea

22:27:19 Dimsler: i'm here for the banter

22:27:20 mircea_popescu: pentestr they're all this one chick with big boobs in reality.

22:27:22 pentestr: mircea_popescu: can you like, reply quick with a pastie with your pgp key and email?

22:27:27 mircea_popescu: ;;ident

22:27:27 gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None

22:27:28 mircea_popescu: ^

22:27:34 pentestr: mircea_popescu: LOL

22:27:43 Dimsler: pentestr, listen quit with the verifying of anything

22:27:44 thickasthieves: i'm here to justify my own existence

22:27:47 mircea_popescu: i guess you're new huh. anyway!

22:27:51 Dimsler: nobody is pressing charges for any type of silly hacking

22:27:57 mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu&sign=ANY&type=RECV << click on gpg identitty.

22:27:58 assbot: Rating Details for User 'mircea_popescu'

22:28:05 pentestr: mircea_popescu: dude.. GPG and PGP aren't the same fucking thing

22:28:05 Dimsler: get to overflowing the stack by finding a nullified pointer

22:28:09 Dimsler: i'd like to see it happen

22:28:18 pentestr: PGP is an encryption format to send you an email?

22:28:19 pentestr: you know..

22:28:20 mircea_popescu: i know, right ?

22:28:22 pentestr: with the PoC?

22:29:10 pentestr: Dimsler: lol, you're so cute

22:29:14 Dimsler: i know

22:29:17 Dimsler: my mom tells me all the time

22:29:23 pentestr: rambling on with 0 knowledge of web-app security

22:29:28 pentestr: im sure she does

22:29:41 mircea_popescu: hm i think that may be a hot button for him.

22:30:36 thickasthieves: pentestr have you found vulns any other btc sites?

22:30:43 pentestr: yes

22:30:45 pentestr: ofc

22:30:51 Dimsler: can you give us some money from circle

22:30:56 Dimsler: because that place is bunk

22:31:23 pentestr: mircea_popescu: email + pgp key blog.. i can't be on here forever.. or Dimsler will make another stupid comment..

22:31:32 pentestr: block*

22:31:38 mircea_popescu: o.O

22:31:43 pentestr: Dimsler: sure.. !tip Dimsler 5000000000 BTC

22:31:47 thickasthieves: i like Circle, just cuz they water down Coinbase

22:31:48 pentestr: happy Dimsler ?

22:31:58 mircea_popescu: you srsly have to read better if you want to be a pentester.

22:32:40 thickasthieves: pentestr do you blog about your adventures or anything?

22:33:07 pentestr: thickasthieves: yes i do, but you can't dox me

22:33:14 mats_cd03: rofl

22:33:18 pentestr: mircea_popescu: do you understand what im asking you?

22:33:27 thickasthieves: i dont wanna dox you

22:33:35 mircea_popescu: pentestr yeah.

22:33:42 pentestr: mircea_popescu: whats your email address?

22:33:58 thickasthieves: just interested in the subject and this chan likes to collect blogs

22:33:59 Dimsler: pgp email blows

22:34:07 pentestr: and then, your PGP key.. the whole block.. because that link doesn't have shit.

22:34:07 Dimsler: you don't need his email address

22:34:08 mats_cd03: whys the communication channel matter if you have his public key

22:34:08 mircea_popescu: thickasthieves i tell you kids today have it really rough. recall how traumatised that julia chick was when she first showed up ? it's like they grow up in a king of the flies scenario.

22:34:09 mircea_popescu: no respite.

22:34:17 mircea_popescu: pentestr srsly, follow the link, it's all in there.

22:34:22 mircea_popescu: and you'll learn some stuff in the process.

22:34:39 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 he doesn't know he has it yet.

22:34:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12244 @ 0.00074592 = 9.133 BTC [-] {2}

22:34:57 mats_cd03: b-but email

22:35:09 Dimsler: pentestr, nobody is going to sit there pgp emailing you

22:35:18 Dimsler: theres far better forms of encrypted communication

22:35:19 mircea_popescu: i might, if he has somthing legit.

22:35:34 mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, would be pretty hysterical. i'll never let kako live it down :D

22:35:50 thickasthieves: aww i feel bad already

22:35:51 pentestr: Dimsler: oh really dipshit? which?

22:36:05 mircea_popescu: pg-13

22:36:26 thickasthieves: nc-17

22:36:27 Dimsler: pentestr, sign with wallet

22:36:38 pentestr: mircea_popescu: i wanted dipshit to answer.. he seems to be a know-it-all

22:36:42 BingoBoingo: !up deedBot

22:36:42 mircea_popescu: Dimsler srsly let the guy be lol. why all the trolage.

22:36:46 BingoBoingo: .deed http://pastebin.com/ds1nsMha

22:36:46 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com

22:36:47 deedBot: deed 309BB8D7F3251143 not trusted.

22:36:47 deedBot: Found 1 bogus deed in http://pastebin.com/ds1nsMha

22:36:48 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Beginning Balances: ATC: 2042 - Pastebin.com

22:36:49 pentestr: he knows webapp security.. now he knows crypto

22:36:53 Dimsler: mircea_popescu, fine

22:36:58 thickasthieves: pentestr, careful dimsler is part troll

22:37:03 mircea_popescu: pentestr this is not uncommon with bitcoin people.

22:37:05 pentestr: ah

22:37:07 Dimsler: part assassin

22:37:15 mircea_popescu: and part assyrian prostitute.

22:37:24 Dimsler: wooo i love green eyes and black hair

22:37:31 Dimsler: something just so fucking sexy about those

22:37:34 pentestr: mircea_popescu: it honestly is.. most bitcoin people aren't entrepreneurs.. they dont have this knowledge

22:37:44 punkman: BingoBoingo: what's with your bogus deeds

22:37:56 pentestr: mircea_popescu: got the pgp block. you want me to send you a message here?

22:38:00 BingoBoingo: punkman: Not sure, maybe deedBot doesn't trust me

22:38:02 mircea_popescu: use pastebin sure.

22:38:14 pentestr: i mean, there are many.. i picked one

22:38:23 mircea_popescu: pick the first lol.

22:38:27 mircea_popescu: the "many" are other people signing my sig.

22:39:14 pentestr: kk

22:39:20 pentestr: brb in around 30-40mins.

22:40:27 bounce: assbot should probably stop fetching deedbot urls

22:40:46 mircea_popescu: yeah and added in default voice list

22:41:08 mircea_popescu: and the website moved over to deeds.ba and the key process fixed. there's a list.

22:43:53 cazalla: thickasthieves: call it The Biz /// cazalla i have a logo from a local mktg mag i did a few years ago, you're welcome to it http://imgur.com/Q08iW5w <<< thanks but going with name BingoBoingo ripped off from pete

22:43:53 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

22:45:06 BingoBoingo: Qntra is going to be the name?

22:45:29 bounce: the.biz: squatted since 2002

22:45:42 cazalla: BingoBoingo, what do you mean ? already regged domain last night!

22:46:07 cazalla: i guess if we need to pivot to another domain, we can spend the day doing so

22:46:08 BingoBoingo: cazalla: I know.Just getting the name out there

22:47:00 Dimsler: lawdy lawdy

22:47:36 cazalla: so i'm going to proceed with the news site idea, i'll run it, gather some authors etc, BingoBoingo is the jessie pinkman to my walter white in this endeavour

22:48:10 Dimsler: are you going to poison his kid?

22:48:32 BingoBoingo: Dimsler: Not my kid, the sidepiece's kid.

22:50:27 cazalla: i might have to, BingoBoingo took offense to my calling him the clarice to my hannibal

22:51:30 Dimsler: LOL

22:55:28 *: danielpbarron

22:59:49 thickasthieves: whats the name again?

23:00:04 Dimsler: merica

23:00:14 thickasthieves: shush you

23:07:18 cazalla: thickasthieves, qntra.net

23:07:45 cazalla: i have some things to do this morning before i set it up though

23:10:56 cazalla: CheckDavid: Aren't rabbits a plague in Australia? <<< they were but then they were not but now they're becoming a problem again due to calicivirus resistance

23:12:57 thickasthieves: cool cool

23:16:42 kakobrekla: so, bitbet hacked yet?

23:17:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00074354 = 6.5432 BTC [-]

23:18:05 kakobrekla: <pentestr> setup a html file on your server that i can access through http://www.bitbet.us/pentestr.html saying that i have permission to hack your server/website < cant he put that file there himself?

23:18:05 assbot: Not Found

23:20:44 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla guess not jet.

23:21:31 BingoBoingo: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=141192314032483&w=2 << Use after free bug in Tor

23:21:33 assbot: 'tor segmentation fault on amd64 current' - MARC

23:21:45 mircea_popescu: lol

23:22:28 Dimsler: must haxor bitbet

23:22:29 *: mircea_popescu is too lazy to set up a b1tbet.us with a "got doge???" title just to jolt kako

23:22:40 Dimsler: mircea_popescu, what did he really want? money?

23:22:50 mircea_popescu: who ?

23:22:54 BingoBoingo: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs&m=141197480111629&w=2

23:22:55 assbot: 'Re: tor segmentation fault on amd64 current' - MARC

23:22:55 Dimsler: that kid

23:23:08 mircea_popescu: no idea. he was gonna be back with a poc.

23:23:16 mircea_popescu: or with something. dunno.

23:27:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22796 @ 0.00074354 = 16.9497 BTC [-]

23:28:32 BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By4GyZdCUAAWuL3.png

23:29:47 BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/By3Spi7CAAERfVF.jpg

23:33:00 midnightmagic: That bug has already been fixed, apparently.

23:33:06 midnightmagic: (the tor problem)

23:33:12 BingoBoingo: Yeah

23:43:22 BingoBoingo: !up flibbr-dev