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Transcript for 02-01-2016, 999 lines:

00:00:02 BingoBoingo: !up artifexd

00:01:47 shinohai: "over $8 and a bag of Chips Ahoy cookies" <<< grammar!

00:02:35 shinohai: oh wait, that makes sense. but jeez, thats almost as bad as the girls that fought over fried chicken.

00:03:28 BingoBoingo: But with bullets

00:06:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00050684 = 7.5012 BTC [-] {2}

00:18:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21389 @ 0.00051341 = 10.9813 BTC [+] {2}

00:40:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13086 @ 0.00050792 = 6.6466 BTC [+]

00:48:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15314 @ 0.00050792 = 7.7783 BTC [+]

00:51:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17179 @ 0.00051352 = 8.8218 BTC [+] {3}

00:53:49 mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> re: vaccinations as a barrier to entry for government subsidies for children, it seems to me that parents who choose not to vaccinate their children should be on the hook for any adverse eventualities of that decision <<< this stance is nonsensical in that the more notable adverse eventualities are also externalities.

00:56:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14441 @ 0.00051368 = 7.4181 BTC [+] {2}

00:59:46 mircea_popescu: !up lobito

01:00:02 lobito: thanks

01:00:10 mircea_popescu: sure. who're you ?

01:00:33 lobito: i'm a bitcoin user from argentina

01:00:45 lobito: since 1 btc = 5 usd aprox

01:00:51 mircea_popescu: o hey, cool.

01:00:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00051369 = 10.2224 BTC [+]

01:00:58 lobito: :)

01:01:11 lobito: i'm reading on decred

01:01:25 lobito: i've been following faircoin too

01:02:13 lobito: i wanted to lurk around to see if anyone brings the subject

01:02:19 lobito: to learn more

01:02:28 mircea_popescu: !s faircoin

01:02:29 assbot: 0 results for 'faircoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=faircoin

01:02:34 mircea_popescu: seems not.

01:03:00 lobito: any thoughts about decred or faircoin?

01:04:06 lobito: i'm all for faircoin ^^

01:04:23 mircea_popescu: is this the new scamcoin usg folks are going to bless us with after the demise of xt ?

01:04:54 lobito: sorry, idk what usg or xt is :P

01:05:10 mircea_popescu: right.

01:05:27 mircea_popescu: "CEO of 'Company 0', Mr. Jacob Yocom-Piatt, who has funded Bitcoin development since early 2013" << nobody heard of him. apparently every year needs its own neobee, glhf.

01:05:27 pete_dushenski: !s usgcoin

01:05:28 assbot: 9 results for 'usgcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=usgcoin

01:05:42 pete_dushenski: what else could 'faircoin' be but ^

01:05:47 lobito: i understand some of the core devs of bitcoin left the and started decred

01:05:54 lobito: *left the project

01:06:06 mircea_popescu: "So, in order to address this issue, some of the Bitcoin developers have joined hands with the makers of the widely used BTCsuite and are now building their own new digital currency called DECRED." << except a) nobody fucking uses "btcsuite" and b) who was this again ? they keep avoiding actually naming those "developers".

01:06:19 mircea_popescu: you're new. this is how bitcoin scams work.

01:06:30 mircea_popescu: gotta load up on teh history first, it's rich.

01:06:31 lobito: xD

01:06:35 lobito: i see

01:06:37 lobito: thanks

01:07:01 lobito: faircoin is a bitcoin-based currency for the faircoop project

01:07:09 lobito: a global cooperative of cooperatives

01:07:14 mircea_popescu: yeah, the dwarf is probably all into it\

01:07:14 lobito: to compete with multinational

01:07:16 mircea_popescu: ;;seen funkenstein

01:07:17 gribble: funkenstein was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 41 weeks, 6 days, 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <funkenstein> !register 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6

01:07:23 mircea_popescu: nowai

01:07:32 lobito: *multinationals

01:07:36 lobito: wai

01:07:38 pete_dushenski: underscore

01:07:45 pete_dushenski: ;;seen funkenstein_

01:07:46 gribble: funkenstein_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 17 hours, 35 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <funkenstein_> my calculations are showing 14,998,400 in circulation still

01:08:19 lobito: faircoop it's by some spanish guy who stole from banks to give to self-organized workers

01:08:44 lobito: they call him the spanish robin hood or something

01:08:57 mircea_popescu: "they".

01:09:20 lobito: the press :P

01:09:26 mircea_popescu: maybe start your journey by looking into the lulzy story of that garza nitwit. should be instructive.

01:11:09 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358395 << so contribute to herd immunity or gtfo ?

01:11:09 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 00:53:49; mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> re: vaccinations as a barrier to entry for government subsidies for children, it seems to me that parents who choose not to vaccinate their children should be on the hook for any adverse eventualities of that decision <<< this stance is nonsensical in that the more notable adverse eventualities are also externalities.

01:11:20 mircea_popescu: well, it's how vaccines work.

01:11:37 pete_dushenski: i'm aware

01:12:47 mircea_popescu: i tell you, if world is ramping up to exterminate mosquitoes and some derp decides that it's his god given right to keep stale water on "his propertah" ima shoot him and burn his propertah down.

01:13:02 mircea_popescu: ymmv, but political thinking re vaccines is of the same category.

01:14:04 pete_dushenski: but wtf does 'world' know ?

01:14:22 mircea_popescu: you mean in the case of polio ?

01:14:31 mircea_popescu: or you mean i nthe case of the totally spurious zona zooster vaccine ?

01:14:33 pete_dushenski: in the case of mosquitoes

01:14:36 mircea_popescu: people like to conflate things.

01:14:53 lobito: this is enric duran, founder of faircoop, if anyone's interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enric_Duran

01:14:54 assbot: Enric Duran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OpRNzm )

01:15:04 pete_dushenski: i'm fully in favour of vaccines ftr

01:15:18 lobito: what's "garza nitwit", btw :P

01:15:33 pete_dushenski: !s josh garza

01:15:33 assbot: 24 results for 'josh garza' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=josh+garza

01:15:39 pete_dushenski: ^start there, lobito

01:15:53 lobito: thanks, pete

01:16:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00050765 = 7.564 BTC [-] {4}

01:16:57 trinque: lobito: would you also hire a cook who was anti-food?

01:16:58 mircea_popescu: anyway. there;s clearly a trend for overvaccination. too young, for one thing ; all sorts of pointless, spurious shit. what drives it is the twin beast of merck wants profits and random derp thinks that if a drink is good ten drinks should be better.

01:17:06 mircea_popescu: there's gotta be some balancing somehow.

01:17:07 pete_dushenski: i guess that a forced vaccine seems like a pound of flesh too far, but on the other hand, when you already have income tax and sales tax and inflation tax and etc etc. maybe not ?

01:17:10 lobito: xD

01:17:49 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: humans don't balance, "what sufficient ?" ;)

01:18:02 mircea_popescu: heh.

01:19:56 lobito: trinque: that analogy's not quite right

01:20:08 lobito: he's not anti-economy nor anti-currency

01:20:11 lobito: he's anti-capitalist

01:20:19 mircea_popescu: can you explain this difference ?

01:20:30 mircea_popescu: "i love eating, i'm just anti getting fat"

01:20:31 lobito: have you read the communist manifesto?

01:20:41 mircea_popescu: o brother.

01:20:54 mircea_popescu: you have any fucking idea what communist economy looks like ?

01:21:01 lobito: nope

01:21:03 lobito: not my point

01:21:17 lobito: he thinks the current economic system's unfair

01:21:23 lobito: so did karl marx

01:21:34 lobito: i'm not a communist btw :P

01:21:41 pete_dushenski: "From 2006 to 2008, Duran took out 68 commercial and personal loans from a total of 39 banks with no guarantees or property as collateral. He had no intention of repaying the debts, and used the money to finance various anti-capitalist movements" << why more people don't do this ~exact same thing~ to buy bitcoin is a wonder

01:21:43 mircea_popescu: every system's unfair to someone.

01:22:22 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski iirc point was even discussed in the logs. it's how banking ends.

01:22:43 mircea_popescu: fundamentally, fiat banking requires the world economy to work as a closed system. once bitcoin's on the table... forget it.

01:23:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00050506 = 14.1669 BTC [-] {2}

01:24:54 lobito: surely

01:26:50 lobito: brb, having dinner

01:49:12 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butts

01:49:39 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_bubble

01:49:57 mircea_popescu: !up asciian_kardashian

01:50:06 mircea_popescu: :D

01:50:08 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_rear

01:50:15 ascii_rear: l0lzz

01:50:18 mircea_popescu: hehehe

01:51:23 pete_dushenski: http://blogs.harvard.edu/philg/2015/12/30/national-socialist-and-lover/ << quotes from 'goebbels : a biography' are notbad, definitely saves you $20 for the hardcover

01:51:24 assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » National Socialist and Lover ... ( http://bit.ly/1Srm5Du )

01:52:07 pete_dushenski: http://blogs.harvard.edu/philg/2015/12/29/the-eu-was-hitlers-idea-apparently/ << more quotes from same book

01:52:08 assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » The EU was Hitler’s idea, apparently ... ( http://bit.ly/1SrmaXF )

01:52:13 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358489 << more than one way to make the closedsystem... sya, narrow the class of what bezzle buys (i.e. not isis arms AND not-btc..)

01:52:13 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 01:22:43; mircea_popescu: fundamentally, fiat banking requires the world economy to work as a closed system. once bitcoin's on the table... forget it.

01:52:36 mircea_popescu: ascii_rear notrly, no.

01:52:59 mircea_popescu: this is like the spanish protecting themselves from piracy by "narrowing the manners in which ships sail"

01:53:19 ascii_rear: mno more like su 'wooden ruble'

01:53:19 mircea_popescu: (yes, they tried)

01:53:36 ascii_rear: go spend ruble. on vodka.

01:53:43 ascii_rear: on btc?

01:53:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15327 @ 0.00050506 = 7.7411 BTC [-] {2}

01:54:11 mircea_popescu: any attempt to do this is merely an exercise at enriching #b-a at public expense.

01:55:06 ascii_rear: only in the same sense that a sinking tanker makes empirestate bldg taller

01:55:21 mircea_popescu: notrly. moscow was pretty fun in the 80s

01:55:27 mircea_popescu: if you were one of the people trading dollars etc.

01:55:31 ascii_rear: (from pov of its deck - yes!)

01:55:38 ascii_rear: aha

01:56:55 ascii_rear: incidentally did ro have these adhoc names for kinds of sov money ?

01:57:02 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-01-2016#1358375 << how d'you propose to price the damage to herd immunity?

01:57:02 assbot: Logged on 01-01-2016 23:28:50; pete_dushenski: but should jimmy also have to pay for the ~actual~ cost of his grade school education just because he didn't get the vaccine ? only if his parents also opted out of taxes, i say, which since this isn't the future, i don't see that also happening (yet)

01:57:07 ascii_rear: (e.g. wooden ruble)

01:57:09 mircea_popescu: ascii_rear ro didn't use sov money.

01:57:24 ascii_rear: well no shit

01:57:28 ascii_rear: but had own

01:57:33 ascii_rear: equally sov

01:58:05 mircea_popescu: ah. notrly, strangely enough. at some point well after it was new/old distinction

01:58:11 ascii_rear: just as eurozone has 'own' bezzlar today

01:58:21 mircea_popescu: but otherwise... the notion that anything ro made would be shit was pervasive, so it was self-obvious

01:58:23 mircea_popescu: people used dm.

01:58:58 ascii_rear: i still recall the gauss head

01:59:21 mircea_popescu: o yeah. gauss ruled trade for a decade.

02:00:08 ascii_rear: parents sold their worldly goodz for gaussheadz

02:02:12 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358429 << holyfuck am i the only one who r

02:02:12 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 01:07:01; lobito: faircoin is a bitcoin-based currency for the faircoop project

02:02:17 ascii_rear: eads it as

02:02:34 ascii_rear: 'fair coop' as in... chicken coop

02:03:06 ascii_rear: blew my mind at first

02:03:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10184 @ 0.00051187 = 5.2129 BTC [+] {3}

02:04:05 mircea_popescu: that's the idea neh ? chicks that don't shave and scrape by a meager existence raising chickens supplemented with gathering trash. it's self-fussicient, provided someone keeps producing trash.

02:04:39 mircea_popescu: as seen in that film, what's it called...

02:04:44 mircea_popescu: easy rider

02:05:07 mircea_popescu: !up lobito

02:05:18 lobito: thanks ^^

02:05:43 lobito: ascii_rear: chicken coop? i don't get it

02:07:24 lobito: you guys know about worker cooperatives?

02:07:49 lobito: that's the idea behind faircoop :P you have said it earlier

02:08:13 ascii_rear: 'fair' is allergenic

02:08:51 lobito: to solve the unjustice of a boss getting rich from overworked employees

02:08:53 ascii_rear: 'fair' in my mind means fifty shitsacks moved into my house. no thx.

02:08:55 mircea_popescu: basically a sad, sexless harem organised by beta boys and avoidant/borderline females.

02:08:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5510 @ 0.00051368 = 2.8304 BTC [+] {2}

02:09:06 lobito: xD

02:09:47 lobito: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative#Argentina

02:09:48 assbot: Worker cooperative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1SrofTx )

02:10:03 mircea_popescu: o, you were from argentina right ?

02:10:12 lobito: yup :P

02:10:37 mircea_popescu: can you explain to me what the fuck is wrong with argentines ? there is not a single fucking club in this entire town.

02:10:49 lobito: :O a club as in...

02:10:51 lobito: a disco?

02:10:52 mircea_popescu: is it mental retardation in the young ?

02:10:54 lobito: nightclub?

02:11:00 mircea_popescu: a disco that is the size of a garage.

02:11:09 lobito: but there are!

02:11:16 lobito: i can name you many

02:11:19 mircea_popescu: you know ? whole fucking country has garages the size of discos and otherwise clubs the size of a closet.

02:11:27 mircea_popescu: o really ? like.,,, where.

02:11:48 mircea_popescu: and if you say "luck" in palermo i'm going to fucking shoot you.

02:11:49 *: ben_vulpes catches up to thread tail http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358469 << farmers who don't minimize mortality rates don't last long as farmers.

02:11:49 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 01:17:07; pete_dushenski: i guess that a forced vaccine seems like a pound of flesh too far, but on the other hand, when you already have income tax and sales tax and inflation tax and etc etc. maybe not ?

02:11:52 mircea_popescu: that's the size of a fucking lobby.

02:11:59 lobito: sorry, i got lost

02:12:03 lobito: what's a club again?

02:12:46 mircea_popescu: a club is a space dedicated to sluts being as close as naked as possible and to keeping young cocks of the type that work in co-ops mostly out. it should be no less than 1k sq meters floor surface with no less than two levels.

02:13:02 lobito: xD

02:13:30 mircea_popescu: it should have no less than a dozen tables and a few fuckrooms. etc.

02:13:34 mircea_popescu: you know, A FUCKING CLUB OMFG

02:13:46 lobito: there are many, sadly :P

02:13:52 mircea_popescu: i've yet to find one.

02:13:56 ben_vulpes: heh

02:13:58 lobito: gta style

02:14:11 mircea_popescu: so be specific.

02:14:18 lobito: cocodrilo, esperanto

02:14:26 *: mircea_popescu takes notes.

02:14:58 mircea_popescu: http://www.cocodrilobuenosaires.com/galeria.html << dude for fucks sake. do you know what size this thing is ?

02:15:00 assbot: COCODRILO BUENOS AIRES ::::: SITIO OFICIAL :::: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NWMJAZ )

02:15:05 ben_vulpes: blondie with a great rack took lady v and myself to a mega club when we were there. name completely slips my memory, but it was a giant reggaeton/cumbia shitshow palace. no fuckrooms, all concrete

02:15:10 mircea_popescu: 15 x 20 doth not a fucking club make good god.

02:15:23 lobito: here's our new president on one https://laalameda.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/el-mafioso-raul-martins-financio-la-campana-de-mauricio-macri/

02:15:24 assbot: El mafioso Raúl Martins financió la campaña de Mauricio Macri | "La Alameda" ... ( http://bit.ly/1NWMJ3Z )

02:15:38 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it was prolly the cheapo thing, salta y brasil.

02:15:44 mircea_popescu: nice place to meet soy farmers i guess.

02:16:15 lobito: her wife does slave labour too

02:16:20 lobito: but on clothing

02:16:31 mircea_popescu: it fucking boggles me. this city has 10x the population of berlin, 0.1% the entertainment venues and this guy actually thinks there "are many" SADLY.

02:16:50 mircea_popescu: gold help it, i hope to hell macri sells the country to the russians wholesale, argentines get massacred and we start over with actual people or something.

02:16:51 lobito: i don't do those places xD

02:16:55 ben_vulpes: los trabajadores indeed

02:16:59 mircea_popescu: you should be ashamed of yourself then.

02:17:00 lobito: so i don't really know

02:17:02 *: ben_vulpes enjoys slumming it

02:17:04 mircea_popescu: right.

02:17:08 lobito: but there are a few famous ones

02:17:36 lobito: (in)famous

02:17:41 mircea_popescu: http://www.cocodrilobuenosaires.com/fotos/data/images/10.jpg << just look at this fucking thing

02:17:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NWMN3A )

02:17:46 mircea_popescu: it's like i died and went to mobile.

02:17:56 mircea_popescu: lobbes and any of them could fit in a suitcase.

02:18:29 lobito: sorry for being in the third world, i guess?

02:18:35 mircea_popescu: it is SHAMEFUL.

02:18:36 lobito: you should read more history :P

02:18:38 lobito: play less gta

02:18:48 mircea_popescu: no amount of derping around with marchas de las dumbas and misspelling co-ops is going to fix this.

02:19:02 mircea_popescu: requisition some fucking Estacionamentos, make some proper clubs already. it's dehumanizing.

02:19:20 mircea_popescu: i'm not even kidding : nobody can take young argentines seriously. for this reason.

02:19:44 lobito: > dehumanizing

02:19:46 lobito: > pays for sex

02:19:55 mircea_popescu: ...

02:20:02 lobito: young argentines such as messi :P

02:20:11 lobito: i hate soccer, btw

02:20:14 lobito: xD

02:20:35 mircea_popescu: messi is a spanish dude that's pretending to not piss on you lot for the endorsements.

02:20:50 mircea_popescu: otherwise... i don't think he'd spit on argentina if it were on fire or something.

02:21:02 lobito: yeah, me neither

02:21:09 lobito: i was kidding :P

02:22:18 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the one thing that boggles my mind the most in all this is that none of them seem to realise that yes there's something fucking wrong with not owning a cocktail dress and spending all your time on netflix.

02:23:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10370 @ 0.00050334 = 5.2196 BTC [-]

02:23:15 ben_vulpes: how boggle? i didn't notice any l33t doodz in bsas the girls'd dress to the nines for.

02:23:31 mircea_popescu: sigh.

02:23:39 mircea_popescu: that's the other thing.

02:24:52 ben_vulpes: this is also why the hipster girls are shaving their temples when they have otherwise rather nice and well-kempt heads. all the hipster boys work in coffee shops 22 hours/wk, and live in poverty to spend their time touring with 'their band'.

02:25:44 ben_vulpes: this strikes me as a not-half-bad strategy: live in poverty for 9 mos, travel (also in poverty, but looking sooper cool) around fucking the young hotties for 1.5, come home and live on someone's couch looking for the next cafe that needs a warm body.

02:25:49 mircea_popescu: and the most annoying thing about this all is that they fucking had a strongarm regime.

02:25:52 mircea_popescu: it fixed exactly nothing.

02:26:17 mircea_popescu: i can't even recommend that everyone under 30 be beaten weekly in the nude in front of the obelsico until things are fixed.

02:26:33 ben_vulpes: you'd have to clear the grandmothers out first

02:27:13 mircea_popescu: yeah, i've been kinda suspecting the root of the whole mess is that old women actually dare sit by themselves in sidewalk cafes as if they're people or something.

02:27:20 mircea_popescu: that's a sight you don't see in civilised places.

02:28:53 ben_vulpes: surely not enough of them are missing enough children for the economy to fail to require they all take care of the grandkinder...

02:28:54 lobito: > civilised

02:28:54 lobito: > desperate to pay poor women to get laid

02:28:57 lobito: :P

02:29:19 ben_vulpes: !down lobito

02:29:29 mircea_popescu: lobito http://fraudsters.com/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ and relax lol.

02:29:30 assbot: NSFW - Mosu' cu joarda on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Srqw0X )

02:29:35 mircea_popescu: !up lobito

02:29:48 mircea_popescu: apologies ben_vulpes ima give him a little leeway seeing how i laid into him

02:30:03 mircea_popescu: i don't imagine he's ever been exposed to you know... actual people with actual criteria before.

02:30:36 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't think my down even took.

02:30:43 ben_vulpes: assbot said nothing, and i have voice changes turned off.

02:30:47 mircea_popescu: it did say.

02:31:30 ben_vulpes: hm, well run an assperiment with me briefly? imma down him again and see if assbot still doesn't say anything

02:31:34 ben_vulpes: !down lobito

02:31:46 mircea_popescu: * assbot removes voice from lobito

02:31:47 ben_vulpes: !up

02:31:52 ben_vulpes: !up lobito

02:31:57 ben_vulpes: !down lobito

02:32:05 ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: assbot isn't sending down receipts

02:32:07 mircea_popescu: lmao are you working your way up to gunnery sgt ?

02:32:09 ben_vulpes: !up lobito

02:32:23 kakobrekla: what ? it works fine.

02:32:30 mircea_popescu: ya srsly.

02:32:39 kakobrekla: !down ben_vulpes

02:32:45 kakobrekla: now this fails.

02:32:55 mircea_popescu: well it never worked on actual l2 people

02:33:04 kakobrekla: twas a joke.

02:33:14 mircea_popescu: that didn't work either!

02:33:18 kakobrekla: !!

02:33:28 ben_vulpes: -assbot- Need a nickname, ben_vulpes.

02:33:29 ben_vulpes: -assbot- You voiced lobito for 30 minutes.

02:33:29 ben_vulpes: -assbot- You voiced lobito for 30 minutes.

02:33:33 ben_vulpes: ^^ last three messages

02:33:52 ben_vulpes: did assbot never do down receipts?

02:34:05 mircea_popescu: oh in pm you mean ?

02:34:10 kakobrekla: i dun think so

02:34:16 ben_vulpes: ah well my mistake then

02:34:34 kakobrekla: it did say -assbot- kakobrekla, you can't do that to ben_vulpes. (Trust: L1 1, L2 17)

02:34:36 kakobrekla: to me

02:34:46 *: ben_vulpes foiled by the universal abhorrence of symmetry in api design

02:34:49 ben_vulpes: again

02:36:14 kakobrekla: i didnt think youd need affirmation for that

02:36:32 ben_vulpes: no, i get that in the mirror every morning

02:37:16 kakobrekla: doesnt happen to me, i get up in the afternoon

02:43:50 ben_vulpes: http://www.almy.us/xlisp.html << apropos of absolutely nothing

02:43:52 assbot: XLISP-PLUS Home Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1SrrXN3 )

02:44:33 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358569 << while the parallel of the more-than-semi-socialist government and the farmer is mostly very apt, a higher mortality rate doesn't have the same downside cost for the former as the latter. the best thing for the usg would be a plague, if only to bring the costs and complexities of managing so much meat into a more (if still ultimately un-)manageable positio

02:44:33 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:11:49; *: ben_vulpes catches up to thread tail http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358469 << farmers who don't minimize mortality rates don't last long as farmers.

02:44:33 pete_dushenski: n

02:47:17 lobito: "Marx's work in economics laid the basis for much of the current understanding of labour and its relation to capital, and subsequent economic thought."

02:47:22 lobito: so, what's your excuse for not having read at least 'the communist manifesto' yet?

02:47:44 *: ben_vulpes off

02:47:48 lobito: it's a classic :P promise it won't turn you into a communist

02:50:42 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358550 << aha. the fear of coming home from war to find yourself in the 'holy cross hospital ? you mean the second reformed hospital' scene from dr. zhivago

02:50:42 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:08:53; ascii_rear: 'fair' in my mind means fifty shitsacks moved into my house. no thx.

02:51:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00050437 = 10.39 BTC [+] {2}

02:54:25 mircea_popescu: lobbes you have to appreciate that marx is a minor thinker. it's not that people've not read it. it's that his output is about as intellectually important as any other diet guru / expert in expertises.

02:54:31 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358595 << that there's no berghain equivalent in buenos aires is spectacularly strange

02:54:31 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:16:31; mircea_popescu: it fucking boggles me. this city has 10x the population of berlin, 0.1% the entertainment venues and this guy actually thinks there "are many" SADLY.

02:54:54 pete_dushenski: ;;seen lobbes

02:54:55 gribble: lobbes was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <lobbes> wasn't it some 'developmental disability' center?

02:55:25 mircea_popescu: nobody ultimately cares what zig ziggler, karl marx or dale carnegey think.

02:55:40 mircea_popescu: heck i meant lobito not lobbes

02:58:57 lobito: xD

03:01:58 mircea_popescu: how old are you anyway lobito, if you don't mind my asking ?

03:03:01 mircea_popescu: !up lobito

03:16:32 lobito: i'd rather not say, sorry :P

03:16:38 mircea_popescu: aite.

03:23:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30299 @ 0.00050366 = 15.2604 BTC [-] {4}

03:31:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28521 @ 0.00050742 = 14.4721 BTC [+] {2}

03:33:16 lobito: gtg

03:33:21 lobito: thanks for the chat ^^

03:34:16 pete_dushenski: http://fredoneverything.org/expat-mexico-arroz-by-any-other-name-would-smell-like-rice/

03:34:18 assbot: Expat Mexico: Arróz by Any Other Name Would Smell Like Rice | Fred On Everything ... ( http://bit.ly/1YWaKep )

03:36:47 pete_dushenski: "A friend’s place in a small gated courtyard, walking distance to pretty much everything, two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280 a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like this that make me scratch my head and wonder who the fuck pays $500-600 to post a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'

03:37:40 pete_dushenski: must be hr depts with budgets that must be spent, lest they get chopped the following year since they were 'unneeded' the year prior

03:38:02 pete_dushenski: sorta like govs, but not. eg. xerox, home depot, etc.

03:41:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00050334 = 4.0016 BTC [-] {2}

03:45:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58500 @ 0.00051373 = 30.0532 BTC [+] {5}

03:52:59 gabriel_laddel: re, lobito. Kill them all.

03:53:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00051144 = 7.9017 BTC [-] {2}

03:53:46 gabriel_laddel: The nice thing about the undeveloped east in Ar is that there's plenty of room for concentration camps.

03:57:31 gabriel_laddel: In other idle wonderings, has anyone known a cat (the animal) with a cocaine habit?

04:07:04 gabriel_laddel: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/bimborg.htm

04:07:05 assbot: PLASTIC FANTASTIC BIMBORG ... ( http://bit.ly/1TuDedI )

04:07:29 gabriel_laddel: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/shivers/scribblings.html

04:07:30 assbot: Some non-technical works ... ( http://bit.ly/1TuDhq0 )

04:08:54 gabriel_laddel: !up samO__

04:24:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22453 @ 0.00050424 = 11.3217 BTC [-] {3}

04:33:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00050334 = 14.5969 BTC [-] {2}

04:40:01 ben_vulpes: raaa

04:40:09 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: around?

04:46:51 ben_vulpes: nm, dug it out of logz.

04:57:20 thestringpuller: ugh all these expired keys is making it impossible to build rotor with the old script

04:57:23 thestringpuller: why is this so painful

04:59:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00051291 = 10.1043 BTC [-] {3}

05:00:21 mod6: which expired keys?

05:00:44 mod6: alf's? just grab his updated key and replace it in your .wot dir.

05:01:18 thestringpuller: + gpg --verify buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.sign

05:01:18 thestringpuller: gpg: Signature made Sun 31 May 2015 05:29:39 PM EDT using DSA key ID 59C36319

05:01:21 thestringpuller: gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found

05:01:26 thestringpuller: i have no idea what's causing that

05:01:58 thestringpuller: the only thing that's changed is the keys. i pulled my old .wot directory to new (more sane) macine

05:03:34 mod6: you need to import this public key to you keyring -- there is a comment that outlines the keys you need in the top of the script: 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319

05:04:40 thestringpuller: mod6: ???? https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=AB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319&op=index << from where?

05:04:42 mod6: once you've done that, you may wanna clean up and start the build over again.

05:05:25 mod6: just do this `gpg --recv-keys 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319`

05:06:37 thestringpuller: gotcha

05:06:41 thestringpuller: rebuilding

05:06:47 phf: thestringpuller: v and gpg --verify use different mechanisms for key management. pgp uses keyrings, v hides keyrings by using .wot folder to store pubkeys as asc files. so when a key expires, your best option really is to fetch a key somehow (???), import it into gpg's keyring so that --verify works AND save it into .wot

05:06:49 thestringpuller: just trying to see if i get same error as on roberto

05:08:17 thestringpuller: will the signed files/patches need to be resigned everytime keys expire?

05:08:44 mod6: phf the deal here is that the build script tries to verify the pgp sig of buildroot -- which is a process outside of v, so a key needs to be imported directly into the gpg keyring.

05:09:24 phf: thestringpuller: gpg doesn't require that. ascii can update expiration date on the key, republish it, and it'll continue working

05:09:59 phf: so expiration date on key is literally a guard, that has nothing to do with crypto. gpg checks timestamp and bails, but it doesn't need to

05:10:07 mod6: <+thestringpuller> will the signed files/patches need to be resigned everytime keys expire? << no. you'll notice that his fp is the same.

05:11:43 phf: !up ascii_rear

05:12:28 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358684 << l0l!! i have the x

05:12:28 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:43:50; ben_vulpes: http://www.almy.us/xlisp.html << apropos of absolutely nothing

05:12:46 ascii_rear: xlisp manual in 3ring here!!

05:13:17 ascii_rear: brother's, from uni

05:13:51 ascii_rear: was ~the~ msdos almost-commonlisp for years

05:14:25 phf: could probably add a subset of foundation related operations to v, so that staging process uses consistent mechanism (to avoid issues like i have the key in .wot but can't seem to verify??)

05:15:30 ascii_rear: phf: hm?

05:16:26 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358686 << 'lose weight! shed limbs!'

05:16:26 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:44:33; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358569 << while the parallel of the more-than-semi-socialist government and the farmer is mostly very apt, a higher mortality rate doesn't have the same downside cost for the former as the latter. the best thing for the usg would be a plague, if only to bring the costs and complexities of managing so much meat into a more (if still ultimately un-)manage

05:18:08 phf: ascii_rear: ongoing thread about v using .wot for pubkeys, where's gpg --verify on foundation produced files relies on keyring

05:18:41 pete_dushenski: ascii_rear: more like 'lose weight! get non-lethally sick!'

05:19:37 ascii_rear: phf: keyring built by v for the occasion

05:19:44 ascii_rear: deterministically

05:20:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10452 @ 0.00051245 = 5.3561 BTC [-]

05:20:09 ascii_rear: (at least in my original)

05:20:36 phf: yeah, so the case with mod6's version, after a #b-a thread

05:20:59 mod6: there is confusion here.

05:22:11 mod6: buiroot is not v-ifiable. so in the rotor+TEST2 build script it was decided (in here) that we should check the hashes and the signatures.

05:22:24 mod6: *buildroot

05:22:55 mod6: so that is checked independently of V. what V does is a whole separate ball of wax.

05:27:05 mod6: anyway, this is all changing anyway.

05:33:40 phf: i understand all that, and i was explaining that there's no conceptual integrity to it, as it stands. we have a .wot folder which is supposed to be a manually curated folder of <nick>.asc files. there were a few threads where mp and ascii argued that the folder should not be generated automatically (no sks or pre packaged tar files). so if one wants to build a rotor they need a .wot folder with pubkeys of all the foundation

05:33:40 phf: contributors. an obvious next step is to have a gpg --verify buildroot.sig rely on the contents of .wot folder, by, for example, making a temp directory, doing a for pubkey in .wot/*.asc; do gpg --homedir $tmpdir --import $pubkey; done, then doing gpg --homedir $tmpdir --verify foo.sig; then rm -rf $tmpdir. this way a .wot folder is a canonical source of pubkeys always and for all operations

05:33:56 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358714 << see also >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-12-2015#1357362

05:33:56 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 03:36:47; pete_dushenski: "A friend’s place in a small gated courtyard, walking distance to pretty much everything, two bedrooms, 750 square feet, Internet and electricity included, $280 a month." << it's ~exactly~ deals like this that make me scratch my head and wonder who the fuck pays $500-600 to post a professional job listing on 'monster.com' and 'workopolis.com'

05:33:56 assbot: Logged on 31-12-2015 15:26:10; asciilifeform: 'american is never given money, he is merely shown it and allowed to hold in his hands for a spell to be reminded that it exists'

05:35:26 ascii_rear: that house only costs 280/mo ~because you can't buy it~

05:35:49 ascii_rear: for most values of 'you'

05:36:12 ascii_rear: !s gradient

05:36:13 assbot: 22 results for 'gradient' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gradient

05:38:15 ascii_rear: if there were any danger of usaschwitz inmates escaping on masse to this, lizards would print enough bezzlars to bid'em up to washington price - like in b-a.

05:38:34 ascii_rear: *en masse

05:40:26 pete_dushenski: aha. "i told mama i'd be a millionaire someday!" says guy with "home equity" and "registered retirement account". so there he stays.

05:41:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37640 @ 0.00051364 = 19.3334 BTC [+] {3}

05:41:46 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358739 << buildroot is not v-ified, so why do we have the dsa shitkey in there ??

05:41:46 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 05:01:18; thestringpuller: gpg: Signature made Sun 31 May 2015 05:29:39 PM EDT using DSA key ID 59C36319

05:42:31 mod6: its just the guys key.

05:42:36 phf: !up ascii_rear

05:42:37 mod6: !up assbot

05:42:39 mod6: f

05:42:41 phf: :D

05:42:54 ascii_rear: mod6: who?

05:43:08 phf: gpg: key 59C36319: public key "Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@uclibc.org>" imported

05:43:18 ascii_rear: ah

05:43:22 mod6: anyway, yeah, this is the build script that I created for testing the build of 'rotor', TEST2, and the static binary.

05:43:31 mod6: it's gonna be going away.

05:43:50 ascii_rear: thing we really need is deterministic binary

05:44:02 ascii_rear: but this is a mega-puzzler

05:44:13 ascii_rear: gotta decruft gcc.

05:44:55 ascii_rear: it has to be: same src?? ---> this here bin

05:45:13 ascii_rear: built wherever, on nintendo, on cray.

05:48:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13860 @ 0.00050767 = 7.0363 BTC [-] {2}

05:48:51 phf: what i meant is something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/304383. of course each execution of script creates a fresh gnupg keys folder, imports the wot, import from sks if we're going that way, does the operation, kills the gnupg folder

05:48:52 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/22Dem9O )

05:49:30 ascii_rear: fuck sks

05:50:01 ascii_rear: keys oughta be used consciously

05:50:21 ascii_rear: as in, with awareness of what all of the pgpdump fields are, yes

06:09:34 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "quests" are what the shitty AAA titles do to sub in for the fact that their games suck, they are poor and stupid, etc. << uh dafuq? guess someone never played DnD as a kid.

06:12:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00050448 = 8.1221 BTC [-] {2}

06:14:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5441 @ 0.00050798 = 2.7639 BTC [+] {2}

06:18:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00051409 = 11.5156 BTC [+] {3}

06:33:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00051263 = 6.2797 BTC [-] {3}

06:43:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00051452 = 12.9659 BTC [+] {2}

06:55:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00051453 = 3.6532 BTC [+]

07:29:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28300 @ 0.00050877 = 14.3982 BTC [-] {3}

07:34:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00050717 = 14.4036 BTC [-] {2}

07:38:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00050462 = 16.1983 BTC [-] {5}

08:12:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24561 @ 0.00050456 = 12.3925 BTC [-] {3}

08:27:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00050795 = 2.108 BTC [+] {2}

08:42:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00051074 = 1.2002 BTC [+]

08:44:50 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358457 << Can't trust a guy who gets high off of his own farts

08:44:50 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 01:14:53; lobito: this is enric duran, founder of faircoop, if anyone's interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enric_Duran

09:04:07 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/glW0e and https://archive.is/Rsyxd

09:04:08 assbot: Linode Under DDoS Since Christmas - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7I7Wm )

09:04:09 assbot: Linode Status ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7I6BX )

09:07:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32300 @ 0.00050334 = 16.2579 BTC [-] {2}

09:10:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00050474 = 1.4133 BTC [+] {2}

09:14:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15668 @ 0.00050334 = 7.8863 BTC [-] {2}

09:17:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00050271 = 15.4835 BTC [-] {4}

09:32:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8928 @ 0.00050123 = 4.475 BTC [-] {2}

09:37:26 BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/fXaDEq.png

09:37:26 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1R34KRH )

09:40:46 BingoBoingo: lol http://fraudsters.com/2016/the-unhappy-new-years-or-look-at-the-difference-a-decade-makes/#comment-116123

09:40:47 assbot: The unhappy new years, or look at the difference a decade makes! on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ZFO44l )

09:49:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00050123 = 11.3779 BTC [-]

10:07:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46991 @ 0.00050555 = 23.7563 BTC [+] {3}

10:24:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00050326 = 9.1593 BTC [-] {2}

10:38:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00050109 = 7.9172 BTC [-] {2}

11:10:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.0005011 = 13.1539 BTC [+] {2}

11:21:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00050643 = 11.3947 BTC [+] {3}

11:49:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00050264 = 2.5383 BTC [-]

12:24:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00050179 = 2.1326 BTC [-]

12:26:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33450 @ 0.00050087 = 16.7541 BTC [-] {4}

12:49:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7596 @ 0.00050082 = 3.8042 BTC [-]

13:01:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00050079 = 9.0643 BTC [-] {3}

13:10:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15665 @ 0.00049865 = 7.8114 BTC [-] {2}

13:13:45 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358697 << and to add insult to injury, all sorts of internet knownothings keep going on and on about buenos aires "night life". da fuck on a stick, akron, ohio with its concrete statue of a corn field has more of a night life.

13:13:45 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 02:54:31; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358595 << that there's no berghain equivalent in buenos aires is spectacularly strange

13:25:55 BingoBoingo: !up Alopex

13:44:25 adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-01-2016#1358361 << "skeptic"? I don't recall ever denying neither the existence of the exchange nor the fun and [potential] profit of judicious trades

13:44:25 assbot: Logged on 01-01-2016 23:09:07; pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/08/s-mpoe-traders-delight/ << hey adlai, you're not the only mpoe/mpex skeptic anymore. the validating power of teh crowd is yours at long last.

13:51:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29745 @ 0.00049743 = 14.7961 BTC [-] {4}

13:58:59 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://imgur.com/gallery/si6CCcT

13:59:00 assbot: Well, that escalated from last year... - GIF on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1YVRkvm )

14:00:36 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358722 << yes.

14:00:36 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 03:57:31; gabriel_laddel: In other idle wonderings, has anyone known a cat (the animal) with a cocaine habit?

14:00:37 mircea_popescu: !up okcupiddude

14:01:04 okcupiddude: Hi mircea

14:01:10 okcupiddude: Why are we on irc?

14:01:13 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358733 << "expiring" keys are a bad fucking idea, for the record.

14:01:13 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 04:57:20; thestringpuller: ugh all these expired keys is making it impossible to build rotor with the old script

14:01:23 mircea_popescu: okcupiddude you must have wanted to talk to me about something ?

14:01:57 okcupiddude: Yeah, i saw that you are a businessman, an so am i

14:02:19 mircea_popescu: o ? what business do you do ?

14:02:24 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

14:02:30 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 431.05, vol: 3008.50145244 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 430.065, vol: 3035.16356 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 431.59, vol: 8964.48982204 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 426.0, vol: 2.0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 436.224, vol: 31673.12700000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 431.53, vol: 12.28704868 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 435.526099989, vol: 27.6955239 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

14:02:32 BingoBoingo: ;;more

14:02:32 gribble: 434.599574614

14:02:36 okcupiddude: We can get together in istanbul if you are in istanbul and talk abiut what potential businesses we can conduct togetger

14:02:45 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --currency rmb

14:02:46 gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.

14:02:48 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c baby the btcalpha is down what do we do! halp! plox!

14:02:49 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:02:59 mircea_popescu: okcupiddude i am in buenos aires.

14:03:12 mircea_popescu: tho it's true that i tend to make istanbul the hub of all my travels. that city rocks.

14:03:28 kakobrekla: btcalpha is online from here

14:03:29 *: adlai is able to load btcalpha - charts, webs, the works

14:03:30 okcupiddude: Dude i am that city

14:03:42 mircea_popescu: o. my bad. fuck dns with a stick.

14:03:53 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c thanks for fixing it so fast. AAA+ service would buy again.

14:03:53 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:04:10 okcupiddude: Lets continye through email, shoot me an email you have it

14:04:15 okcupiddude: I am out

14:04:19 BingoBoingo: email sucks

14:04:30 mircea_popescu: i don't do private chats with people i don't know. you want to talk about something, this is the venue.

14:07:13 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358754 << technically speaking, "expiration" is a cheap forking mechanism. it shouldn't be there, it's just a hook for future trouble.

14:07:13 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 05:09:59; phf: so expiration date on key is literally a guard, that has nothing to do with crypto. gpg checks timestamp and bails, but it doesn't need to

14:07:27 mircea_popescu: if gpg were just released today we'd suspect the nsa impacted that stupid design

14:08:41 mircea_popescu: this also illustrates the much larger point of the fukctardation of out-of-band communication. it's stupid and dangerous. there should be absolutely no "alternative mechanism" for a key being in any way processed outside of the key itself. timestamp ? fuck that.

14:08:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16605 @ 0.00049873 = 8.2814 BTC [+] {2}

14:09:41 mircea_popescu: the less said, the less possibility of misunderstanding, which is why the main quality of a contract is being brief. the fewer venues communication may occur in, the fewer indecidable problems you'll meet. this rly is not rocket science.

14:13:34 mircea_popescu: (contract elongation is a direct result of the channel trying to fight against noise in "out of band" communication. take that away, you're golden)

14:18:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00050127 = 14.3864 BTC [+] {3}

14:25:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6418 @ 0.00050179 = 3.2205 BTC [+]

14:30:24 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358865 <<< kek. And good morning #b-a

14:30:24 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 14:01:10; okcupiddude: Why are we on irc?

14:30:37 mircea_popescu: hola.

14:30:40 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358803 << myeah.

14:30:40 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 05:43:50; ascii_rear: thing we really need is deterministic binary

14:31:10 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358806 << the problem is this may run into portability issues way the fuck before it runs into anything else.

14:31:10 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 05:44:55; ascii_rear: it has to be: same src?? ---> this here bin

14:31:37 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358814 << hm ?

14:31:37 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 06:09:34; thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "quests" are what the shitty AAA titles do to sub in for the fact that their games suck, they are poor and stupid, etc. << uh dafuq? guess someone never played DnD as a kid.

14:32:10 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358830 << fuck them, bunch of twerps. linode has no place in the world.

14:32:10 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 09:04:08; assbot: Linode Under DDoS Since Christmas - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P7I7Wm )

14:33:08 mircea_popescu: "For the short term, we will be using BGP communities to attempt to block Asia Pacific, the Middle East, South America, and others, hopefully leaving us only with traffic from North America and Western Europe. Blocking geographic regions this way is the only way to make sure that large botnets won't be able to launch further attacks.For the short term, we will be using BGP communities to attempt to block Asia Pacific,

14:33:08 mircea_popescu: the Middle East, South America, and others, hopefully leaving us only with traffic from North America and Western Europe. Blocking geographic regions this way is the only way to make sure that large botnets won't be able to launch further attacks."

14:33:10 mircea_popescu: oooo right.

14:35:58 mircea_popescu: ;;ud catfished

14:35:59 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=catfished | Having a fake facebook profile, images and avatar in order to lure people to have romantic feelings. They are then catfished when the victim realises the person ...

14:36:09 mircea_popescu: mmmmkay...

14:36:22 mircea_popescu: so basically, "traditional marriage" is now called "being catfished" ?

14:37:59 BingoBoingo: parts of it

14:42:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29149 @ 0.00049767 = 14.5066 BTC [-] {4}

14:42:24 punkman: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/57466-Mad-Max-The-Sandiest-Sand-Box

14:46:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9865 @ 0.00050178 = 4.9501 BTC [+] {2}

14:49:41 punkman: "The sandbox games has now become what the 3rd-person shooter was not too long ago, the default setting that tends to get rolled out for generic action games after the creative team have sat around a blank whiteboard all morning and started hankering for an early lunch."

14:50:26 mircea_popescu: aha

14:50:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76700 @ 0.00050294 = 38.5755 BTC [+] {4}

14:54:15 mircea_popescu: apparently i'm okcupid-famous now.

14:57:56 mod6: "get the fuck outta my mailbox or else!"

14:57:59 mod6: or else what?

14:58:02 shinohai: I very much enjoyed the recent fraudsters article

14:58:17 *: shinohai likes trolling dommes as well.

14:59:19 mircea_popescu: o ?

15:02:40 BingoBoingo: How does okcupid famous compare to fetlife famous?

15:03:00 mircea_popescu: about 50lbs less average weight.

15:04:16 mircea_popescu: lemme tell you - after a decade of "the tallest, the slimest, the hottest chicks at the bdsm party are the ones you brought" it gets fucking old.

15:04:40 mircea_popescu: no idea how all these fucktards expect anyone to take them seriously. "oh, i'm a master, that's my slave"

15:04:59 BingoBoingo: aha

15:05:02 mircea_popescu: really, bitch ? if she were your slave she wouldn't bmi over 40 ffs.

15:05:16 mircea_popescu: cage her and feed her lemon water till xmas.

15:07:44 mod6: real subs like the cage!

15:07:55 mircea_popescu: word.

15:08:44 shinohai: This one caught my eye because she has recently discovered cryptocurrency it appears: https://twitter.com/casslechat

15:08:45 assbot: La Reine (@casslechat) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1OzUPMV )

15:08:59 mircea_popescu: so tell her to sell her tits.

15:09:12 shinohai: Has a smattering of btctalk posts as well, with feminist tones

15:10:20 BingoBoingo: feminist is just a code word for boys insecure about their penis

15:10:26 mod6: feminism: our specialty

15:10:40 mircea_popescu: more like ... boys secure about their penis (it dun work), ready to please in othar ways.

15:11:16 BingoBoingo: ic

15:11:45 shinohai: I sent her a PM and told her she should come here and show her tits for 0.1. Obviously no reply.

15:11:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00050377 = 7.6069 BTC [+]

15:12:07 mircea_popescu: next time give out teh link.

15:12:18 shinohai: I linked to the fraudsters article

15:12:36 mircea_popescu: (pro tip : woman that would die to defend her clothes put among a dozen nude damsels will cast off every last stitch like it were radioactive)

15:12:47 mircea_popescu: a. then who knows.

15:13:42 shinohai: Probably too "dominant" to let guyz see her naked, i.e. an instadomme

15:14:07 mircea_popescu: eh, dommes domme topless anyway.

15:14:21 mircea_popescu: there's no good equivalent of boots for the chest.

15:15:04 mircea_popescu: could go full corset, but given the... rotund quality of most dommes it's too constrictive an' they faint. usually go for demis if at all.

15:18:00 BingoBoingo: "Romania is not a country most people would associate with Bitcoin or digital currency right away" >> https://archive.is/8oH79

15:18:02 assbot: Things Are Not Adding Up For BitcoinXRomania - The Merkle ... ( http://bit.ly/1YW3TXF )

15:18:13 mircea_popescu: lol. mkay.

15:19:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10581 @ 0.00050377 = 5.3304 BTC [+]

15:21:52 shinohai: J.P. Buntinx, " one of the world's leading freelance Bitcoin writers"

15:22:07 mircea_popescu: who ?!

15:22:31 kakobrekla: buttnix

15:22:39 BingoBoingo: ^

15:23:02 BingoBoingo: He's written for just about all the crap outlets except coindesk

15:23:22 mircea_popescu: what's his expert sex change profile ?

15:24:12 BingoBoingo: I dunno that. Think he's visited here once

15:24:18 BingoBoingo: !s jpbuntix

15:24:18 assbot: 0 results for 'jpbuntix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jpbuntix

15:24:40 mircea_popescu: anyway. never heard of him, but whatevs.

15:25:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00050377 = 9.6472 BTC [+]

15:27:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00049883 = 16.3616 BTC [-] {2}

15:31:29 mod6: <+kakobrekla> buttnix << lel

15:31:52 mod6: gentoo clone

15:32:35 BingoBoingo: Wait, I though buttnix was a closed IBM AnusIX distro

15:39:55 punkman: https://twitter.com/casslechat/status/683158602534653952 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957797.0

15:39:59 assbot: [ANN] Spells of Genesis - Innovating the Game Economy with BitCrystals (BCY) ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXq5II )

15:41:47 punkman: I dunno how any of this makes sense

15:44:35 shinohai: Spells of Genesis - another Erik Voorhees production.

15:56:07 mod6: !up ascii_rear

15:56:20 mircea_popescu: punkman not enough crystals in your soda!

15:56:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00050376 = 8.1105 BTC [+] {2}

15:57:07 *: mircea_popescu is too lazy to read tardstalk

15:57:18 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358906 << how? recall that we already have cross-compilation

15:57:18 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 14:31:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358806 << the problem is this may run into portability issues way the fuck before it runs into anything else.

15:57:34 mircea_popescu: if i knew how i'd be an engineer

15:58:03 mircea_popescu: instead i'm stuck here sifting through folders with 19yosluts and urgent business proposals from dudes in quatar.

15:58:24 ascii_rear: just need to patch gcc to stop it from taking local paths shits into the binary

15:58:45 mircea_popescu: this would technically create trb-gcc wouldn't it

15:58:50 ascii_rear: aha

15:58:58 mircea_popescu: as they're not going to import it and well... aha.

15:59:09 ascii_rear: long past time.

15:59:34 mircea_popescu: anyone wanna be trb-gcc maintainer ?

15:59:53 ascii_rear: i still can't fathom who and why thought the pollution was justifiable.

16:00:08 ascii_rear: it will prolly have to be me...

16:00:23 mircea_popescu: well... giving love a chance over here.

16:00:53 ascii_rear: (anybody else here on speaking terms with gcc guts? pkease raise yer hand!)

16:01:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58200 @ 0.00049826 = 28.9987 BTC [-] {3}

16:02:38 ascii_rear: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358895 << i'd like to hear moar re: this

16:02:38 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 14:08:41; mircea_popescu: this also illustrates the much larger point of the fukctardation of out-of-band communication. it's stupid and dangerous. there should be absolutely no "alternative mechanism" for a key being in any way processed outside of the key itself. timestamp ? fuck that.

16:03:56 mircea_popescu: let's.

16:04:44 mircea_popescu: best phrase some sort of objection or something tho, to establish a common ground somewhere.

16:05:18 mircea_popescu: bar that i guess i'll have to go into an analysis of contracting legal theory.

16:05:30 ascii_rear: mostly that i'm not grasping how in- vs out- of band thread ties in here

16:05:52 mircea_popescu: ok, let's try this :

16:06:09 mircea_popescu: suppose a world composed of three thinking agents, A, B and C.

16:06:15 mircea_popescu: situation 1 : single band.

16:07:00 mircea_popescu: A approaches C and inquires about B. C responds that B is untrustworthy and produces a contract that says "C has given B X, in consideration of which B will perform Y".

16:07:36 mircea_popescu: in this situation as described, A can make a determination ~without~ A having to be human. it's what you'd call a "strict" determination.

16:07:42 mircea_popescu: situation 2 : two bands.

16:07:50 mircea_popescu: A approaches C and inquires about B. C responds that B is untrustworthy and produces a contract that says "C has given B X, in consideration of which B will perform Y".

16:08:09 mircea_popescu: EXTRA STEP BECAUSE FUCKING STUPID MULTIBANDS!!!1! C now confronts B about A's contract.

16:08:26 ascii_rear: concretize the meaning of bands here plz

16:08:41 mircea_popescu: IF (YET ANOTHER EXTRA STEP!!11!) B responds that A's contract should be "set aside" (WHAT ?!?!) because "the law" (2nd band) says that bla bla,

16:08:50 mircea_popescu: A can no longer make a determination. at fucking all.

16:09:00 mircea_popescu: so they need to add D the judge and fucking hell we're back to what we were fixing.

16:09:24 ascii_rear: btw this is an instance of 'funarg problem'

16:09:33 mircea_popescu: right.

16:09:47 mircea_popescu: imagine for a moment gpg ran the bitcoin.

16:09:52 mircea_popescu: "expired" keys ? really ?

16:09:54 ascii_rear: in that universe, it is solved. the solution, in this one, is:

16:10:01 mircea_popescu: why the fuck would you want to add another band! it's suicide, obviously.

16:10:12 ascii_rear: static linking of the whole relevant body of law into the contract

16:10:21 ascii_rear: is this practiced anywhere?

16:10:37 mircea_popescu: no, because for THIS REASON the body of law can not be statically compiled.

16:10:44 mircea_popescu: too god damned many bands

16:10:56 mircea_popescu: because someone somewhere told idiots that the solution to imponderable problems is to add "tagging".

16:11:02 ascii_rear: and ianal but meat law contracts often include time

16:11:17 mircea_popescu: time is irrelevant here and can be deemed as part of the explicitation of "X"

16:12:00 ascii_rear: this is the part that confuses me

16:12:06 mircea_popescu: go on ?

16:12:19 ascii_rear: why 'time is irrelevant' ?

16:12:30 mircea_popescu: because i did not include it in my discussion.

16:12:41 mircea_popescu: when following an example you can only reference objects the author included.

16:13:17 ascii_rear: thread was originally 'timestamps in pgp considered harmful' iirc

16:13:40 mircea_popescu: the problem with timestamps is not related to time

16:13:49 mircea_popescu: but to that they purport to convey information other than the key itself.

16:13:55 mircea_popescu: that's what makes them 2nd channel.

16:14:26 mircea_popescu: and there's a tie-in here about how all systems should fail deadly anyway, and consequently "timestamps" are not even allowed in the design because no way to enforce them.

16:14:38 ascii_rear: let's take another key field... name of owner. also irrelevant?

16:14:57 ascii_rear: or is it a useful signed expression of intent when key was made

16:16:04 ascii_rear: name also cannot be enforced - conceivably someone could distribute a key with name field stripped

16:16:42 mod6: its just a number, how can a name be relevant?

16:19:03 ascii_rear: signed statement associating a memorable human name with the signing modulus

16:19:19 mod6: doesn't matter

16:21:23 ascii_rear: i can see a case for 'modulus only' key

16:23:21 ascii_rear: but the problem with discarding the notion of time entirely is that enemy can subject you to endless replay attack

16:23:53 ascii_rear: taking your old output and presenting it to anybody he can get to, as your latest

16:27:02 mircea_popescu: name of owner is user-provided anyway.

16:27:07 mircea_popescu: you for instance are "stas"

16:27:09 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_rear

16:27:54 mircea_popescu: and note that the discussion wasn't "time is for all time and in all contexts irrelevant".

16:28:24 mircea_popescu: the discussion was that in the specific context of "key expiraton" the "time" part is not terribly relevant for our discussion of multiband. merely the fact that there's another band ductaped on.

16:31:53 ascii_rear: the statement 'anybody signing with this key after $condition is an impostor' is usefully machine-readable

16:32:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00049726 = 11.437 BTC [-] {2}

16:32:09 ascii_rear: unless i catastrophically misunderstand something

16:32:09 mircea_popescu: sure, but that'd be a contract, in-band.

16:32:30 mircea_popescu: not a "wait, band2 says this key is no longer good so you gotta consider this when looking in band now!11"

16:32:50 ascii_rear: ok so it turns out that mircea_popescu is simply insisting on 'p' !!

16:33:01 mircea_popescu: well... a certain design principle at any rate.

16:33:12 mircea_popescu: so.. P :D

16:33:13 ascii_rear: where all rules re: a key are expressed INSIDE the key

16:33:18 ascii_rear: aha.

16:33:21 mircea_popescu: not just.

16:33:46 mircea_popescu: "all rules re a key are expressed inside a key such that being ignored breaks the whole thing"

16:33:53 ascii_rear: aha!

16:33:55 ascii_rear: p.

16:34:12 mircea_popescu: and if there isn't a way for your "rule" to be made to satisfy this, a) it's not a rule and b) shut up and do some meditation, you're verging on stupid.

16:34:23 ascii_rear: protocol vs promise

16:34:26 mircea_popescu: quite.

16:34:34 ascii_rear: we had a good thread re: this

16:34:46 ascii_rear: !s protocol promise

16:34:47 assbot: 12 results for 'protocol promise' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=protocol+promise

16:35:08 mircea_popescu: this is really the revolution bitcoin brought about.

16:35:28 mircea_popescu: people think it's a major breakthrough in money, but that's doubtful. it is however a string of major breakthroughs in systems theory.

16:36:05 ascii_rear: that's what drew me in intellectually at any rate

16:38:10 ascii_rear: the very sweet lure of zapping 'buluceala'

16:38:17 mircea_popescu: hahahaha

16:38:28 mircea_popescu: o great. that may be the happiest that word's ever been.

16:38:45 ascii_rear: it was in a mircea_popescu article

16:38:55 ascii_rear: let's see...

16:39:01 mircea_popescu: very nicely used. you are now a honorary native romanian speaker.

16:39:19 ascii_rear: http://fraudsters.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine

16:39:21 assbot: Pushing the soft tender flesh of a friend against the sharp rotating blades of the immutable machine. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VwFdQ7 )

16:40:25 ascii_rear: anyway we need a nice sweet opposite

16:40:29 mircea_popescu: ftr, it comes from tk, b?l?k - with a very latin -ala tacked on.

16:40:29 ascii_rear: ordnung?

16:40:34 mircea_popescu: nah, too german.

16:40:40 ascii_rear: organon.

16:40:49 mircea_popescu: suggests this weakass order that has to be maintained by barking weinerschnitzels.

16:40:59 ascii_rear: l0llz!

16:41:00 mircea_popescu: yeah, organon, cosmos, something.

16:41:10 ascii_rear: novum organon ftw

16:42:00 mircea_popescu: if i ever write a book about nazi camps etc, the evil guy's dogs are gonna be named ordnung ^ disziplin

16:43:08 *: ascii_rear pictures barking, snarling wienerschnitzel... sausage

16:45:04 mircea_popescu: lol

16:47:05 *: ascii_rear bbl.

16:51:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00049726 = 12.7547 BTC [-]

16:55:31 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: re: quests << I think the quests you were thinking of in regards to Eulora logs are grind quests which contribute nothing to the gameplay but dungeon crawling/grinding. Get X something by killing Y something. But complex quests that add story are kinda key to singleplayer games. Be it robbing banks in GTA and listening to characters talk in the car; finding your son in Fallout 4; or finding your family in Red De

16:58:10 mircea_popescu: i was mostly thinking of wow.

16:58:19 mircea_popescu: which for some reason everyone decided to copy for a while there.

16:59:30 deedbot-: [Qntra] 7 Month Investigation Catches Alleged Refund Fraudsters - http://qntra.net/2016/01/7-month-investigation-catches-alleged-refund-fraudsters/

16:59:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20485 @ 0.00049965 = 10.2353 BTC [+] {2}

17:02:20 thestringpuller: well Blizzard is known for turning games into digital crack of some sort. some people get highly addicted despite how shitty the game is and stay hooked for years. It's not really a viable gameplay model, more just "here is some crack have fun".

17:06:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4705 @ 0.00049966 = 2.3509 BTC [+]

17:08:14 BingoBoingo: No matter how much hair is lost to polishing trb, let us all be thankful trb will nevar have these solutions: https://archive.is/a48Ko

17:08:15 assbot: Arch Linux with cinnamon : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1R6QZlq )

17:10:17 thestringpuller: "Since 0.11B we have added systemd init scripts to make sure that the node will be started and auto-restarted if you reboot. The systemd bitcoinxtd.service registers the XT based daemon for autostart."

17:29:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00049876 = 2.1197 BTC [-]

17:29:56 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358897 << amen, especially to the contracting bit.

17:29:56 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 14:09:41; mircea_popescu: the less said, the less possibility of misunderstanding, which is why the main quality of a contract is being brief. the fewer venues communication may occur in, the fewer indecidable problems you'll meet. this rly is not rocket science.

17:30:31 *: ben_vulpes is cobbling together some grep and sed as we speak to ease the pain of handling fiatland contracts

17:31:20 *: ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes'

17:31:23 ben_vulpes: mind = blown

17:31:51 ben_vulpes: alternatively, comparing documents manually.

17:32:30 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai is there really something to learn in #joinmarket?

17:32:30 gribble: The operation succeeded.

17:39:05 adlai: it's moderately documented in the code itself and on github. if you want to learn from belcher why he tangled the spaghetti just so, lurk around until he shows up

17:40:08 fluffypony: http://themerkle.com/news/things-are-not-adding-up-for-bitcoinxromania/

17:40:10 assbot: Things Are Not Adding Up For BitcoinXRomania - The Merkle ... ( http://bit.ly/1kAx0gd )

17:40:12 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359041 << while in theory there is no way to enforce them in practice there is no alternative to the gpg c-ball, and so therefore similarly to how the thing resists librarification it also enforces key expiration. until mpex doesn't respect key expiration, it /is/ enforced.

17:40:12 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 16:14:26; mircea_popescu: and there's a tie-in here about how all systems should fail deadly anyway, and consequently "timestamps" are not even allowed in the design because no way to enforce them.

17:40:48 ben_vulpes: adlai: i might understand how it works, but i thought there might be...learning to had lurking over there.

17:40:55 ben_vulpes: *additional* learning.

17:41:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14274 @ 0.00049742 = 7.1002 BTC [-]

17:41:18 *: adlai considers it one of the higher SNR #bitcoin-channels

17:42:25 ben_vulpes: well with bandwidth like that any noise at all would snipe it from the list

17:42:47 adlai: it's much sleepier than this place, there have been ~weeks with pretty much no activity

17:53:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00049749 = 9.2036 BTC [+] {2}

18:30:20 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin block reward halving on or before 20 July 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1182/bitcoin-block-reward-halving-on-or-before-20/#b10

18:30:22 ben_vulpes: "And in the 20th century there were more and more college graduates. They increased from about 2% of the population in 1900 to about 25% in 2000." << if this is true, it definitely explains the PITA that "college educated" people are in the states.

18:31:45 ben_vulpes: a thing once a hallmark of literally the 98th percentile is now distributed to more-or-less all comers, but the education is now 90% training people to demand the respect such a diploma'd have warranted in the 1900s and 10% intersectional triggering studies

18:32:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00049764 = 6.0214 BTC [+]

18:32:53 ben_vulpes: leading to a great fuckton of "this corporate document is insufficiently sensitive to groups x y and z, and even though i'm not a part of any of them the corp must now change these docs or else what have i wasted the past n years of my life on anyways"

18:33:21 ben_vulpes: uno minimo respeto por la concern troll!

18:34:06 *: ben_vulpes extremely fucking loath to hire us degree holders under the age of forty

18:36:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00049747 = 10.1981 BTC [-] {3}

18:45:10 mircea_popescu: * ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes' <<< no small part of why it's a joke.

18:46:52 mircea_popescu: fucking word ben_vulpes

18:46:58 ben_vulpes: mother

18:46:59 ben_vulpes: fucking

18:47:00 ben_vulpes: word

18:47:09 ben_vulpes: you know what the absolute cherry on top is?

18:47:14 mircea_popescu: hm ?

18:47:50 ben_vulpes: a PDF with changes conveniently color coded underlined and colorized to highlight moved text, removed text, added text and umpteen other categories of change.

18:48:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform my pleasure to inform you 256gb. have fun.

18:48:28 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes every now and again some politico gets in hot water for submitting a "dirty" document

18:48:33 mircea_popescu: (ie, with changes still included)

18:49:07 hanbot: deedbot- http://thewhet.net/han/mpifpc4_122015.txt.asc

18:49:08 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UmOk4w )

18:49:11 deedbot-: accepted: 1

18:52:19 punkman: mircea_popescu: * ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes' <<< no small part of why it's a joke. << which country does not use Word?

18:54:00 ben_vulpes: b,tmsr~

18:54:26 thestringpuller: !b 2

18:54:27 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3SH7N5R.txt )

18:54:27 BingoBoingo: locally I hear Wordperfect is rather popular

18:54:47 mircea_popescu: punkman which country's derpage about "sovereignity" and you know, generally being a state isn't a joke ?

18:54:49 ben_vulpes: i've never seen contracts around here run anywhere near what bezzlelandia contracts do

18:55:02 punkman: signed vdiffs would be a good solution for contract changes btw

18:55:08 mircea_popescu: quite.

18:55:16 mircea_popescu: v is a universal solution for many problems.

18:55:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00049833 = 13.4549 BTC [+] {3}

18:55:33 mircea_popescu: right off the top of my head : both medical diagnostics and inventory management should be run off v.

18:55:51 mircea_popescu: imagine a supermarket with v inventory management. fully fucking auditable!

18:55:56 mircea_popescu: "who signed for this going out ?"

18:56:34 *: mircea_popescu foresees a juicy consulting future for the overhaul of fiat world towards v-dom

18:56:58 ben_vulpes: no but no but we'll do inventory in the blockchain meerka

18:57:13 mircea_popescu: yaya

18:57:21 ben_vulpes: but not the bitcoin blockchain that's sacred or something so i have a new one

18:57:30 ben_vulpes: supplychain

18:57:31 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: but if it's not on the blockchain!!!!11111

18:57:47 thestringpuller: why does everyone want to write everything to the blockchain...

18:58:16 mircea_popescu: why did everyone in the 70s wear those idiotic bellbottoms ? what the fuck is with 80s hair ? how come every woman on okcupid today is bisexual ?

18:58:21 mircea_popescu: ;;google kink high

18:58:22 gribble: Kink High Rise Stem at Dan's Comp: https://www.danscomp.com/products/370315/Kink_High_Rise_Stem.html; Kink BMX – Highrise: http://www.kinkbmx.com/parts/stems/highrise/; Martin Luther King High School / Homepage: http://www.kingwolves.org/

18:58:27 mircea_popescu: pff

18:58:30 thestringpuller: LOL

18:58:59 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: come on bellbottoms were cool af

18:59:17 mircea_popescu: you'\re thinking of the hot asses that'd have looked hot if dressed in mud.

18:59:55 thestringpuller: I guess so, I love being at work and seeing chicks in those skinny jeans.

19:00:06 thestringpuller: but i guess beign slathered in mud would be just as good.

19:03:45 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how come every woman on okcupid today is bisexual ? << i thought that every girl born after 1990 was bisexual.

19:03:56 mircea_popescu: seems more like 85

19:04:04 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> but not the bitcoin blockchain that's sacred or something so i have a new one << The reason for this is they are 6 years behind. By the time they get to alt v altcoins will have done their damage

19:06:10 mircea_popescu: it is and always has been the curse of the lame that they dun know where's da party at.

19:13:38 thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3z56t9/bitcoin_the_homeless/ << what's with derps wanting to use Bitcoin to prevent poverty. cuz u kno givin free m0nie to homeless fixes poverty!!!111

19:13:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44214 @ 0.00049727 = 21.9863 BTC [-] {3}

19:13:54 thestringpuller: whatever happened to sean's outpost nonsense?

19:14:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16036 @ 0.0004968 = 7.9667 BTC [-] {2}

19:15:19 mircea_popescu: leah goodman moved there.

19:24:15 phf: When wasteful war shall datacenter overturn,/ icann no longer keeps the record of domain/ Nor Mars his sword nor war’s quick fire shall burn/ The cryptographic record of blockchain.

19:24:34 mircea_popescu: keep the dayjob.

19:24:55 phf: heheh, indeed

19:30:22 mircea_popescu: inverse measure of bitcoin mainstream penetration : about 0.3% of females and as high as .7% of males ask me if i'm the mpex mp. (the female sample is ~2k ; the male ~3k - not my fault, just males are about 100x more responsive to a profile visit than females for some reason. then again... about half of them are so fucking threatened by homosexuality they feel compelled to either point out to me that they're not gay, "

19:30:22 mircea_popescu: insult" me by saying i'm gay or else go into total shitfest mode. apparently "someone visited my profile" is A REALLY BIG FUCKING DEAL. but anyway)

19:34:02 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You don't understand. For these people a profile visit IS a big deal. It's the closest they'll get to interacting with another person evar.

19:37:02 mircea_popescu: hm.

19:38:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00049851 = 6.5305 BTC [+] {2}

19:38:46 BingoBoingo: These people don't rate/like each other, they don't message each other, they scroll through lists and OCCASIONALLY visit profiles. Because they site attract certain kinds of neuroses. It's why the fuckable girls don't last on there.

19:39:23 mircea_popescu: i dunno man... since i bitched here bout them being all short / that email showed up it's been the fucking vegas back room in here.

19:39:32 mircea_popescu: i spent all morning going through a line of 1.80 hotties.

19:40:02 mircea_popescu: im starting to think these dudes ACTUALLY DO segregate the userbase.

19:40:42 BingoBoingo: That's not news

19:40:49 mircea_popescu: and seeing how somehow, inexplicably, out of 100k+ dudes online DAILY during A FUCKING DECADE i;m the only one with a working copy of the bourne shell, i became king of the hill or something.

19:41:08 mircea_popescu: there you go asciilifeform, that's what explains fucking walled ghetos, the app store, word and what have you.

19:41:54 mircea_popescu: A FUCKING DECADE. hundred thousand males. looking for cunt. still've not figured out how to... curl it into submission. wide fucking open, but an open door's only open if someone has any automotive power whatsoever.

19:42:01 mircea_popescu: dumb as rocks just got a whole new meaning.

19:42:56 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/E2VHV

19:42:57 assbot: Iran's blogfather: Facebook, Instagram and Twitter are killing the web | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1JlRsxg )

19:43:27 mircea_popescu: lazy dumb conformist fucks are killing the fucking world, one kitten at a time.

19:44:34 mircea_popescu: in other news, "Odio la sociedad actual, los pretenciosos, irreverentes, neo-feministas y social justice warriors, creo que no se necesita pertenecer/creer en movimientos o ideolog?as para hacerse respetar. "

19:45:04 phf: new take on верхи не хотят низы не могут: nerds are afraid to, jocks don't know how

19:45:31 mircea_popescu: this nerd/jock thing is such a victory in divide and conquer.

19:45:39 mircea_popescu: we didn't fucking have these in school back when i was a kid.

19:46:12 phf: nor did we

19:46:29 mircea_popescu: you could either listen to metal or else get the shit beaten out of you for being one of those depeche mode fags

19:46:33 mircea_popescu: like god fucking intended.

19:47:22 phf: it's a self fulfilling prophecy here from the divide and conquer department, "acting white". i don't do maths, i'm not a nerd. i don't fuck girls, i'm not a jock.

19:47:43 mircea_popescu: and if you do maths and fuck girls ?

19:47:52 mircea_popescu: why the fuck would you not either.

19:55:17 phf: in u.s. you're an anomaly, at least that was my experience, everything's extremely segregated.

19:55:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24366 @ 0.00049658 = 12.0997 BTC [-]

19:55:48 BingoBoingo: phf: Because that's a necessary prerequisite to marketing

19:55:53 mircea_popescu: ^

19:56:03 mircea_popescu: go up to cow, ask it if it's dairy cow or meat cow.

19:57:02 mircea_popescu: dairy cow explaining to its insufferable litter, "oh, you wanna work really hard in cowschool be a diary cow just like mom! those meat cows have it so much worse, it's way better to be bled bit by bit than cut apart in one go!"

20:14:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23691 @ 0.00049937 = 11.8306 BTC [+] {4}

20:15:21 mircea_popescu: there you go BingoBoingo http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/okc-weirdo-1.png http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/okc-weirdo-2.png http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/okc-weirdo-3.png etc.

20:15:22 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vx6oKt )

20:15:23 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vx6oKx )

20:15:24 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vx6m5s )

20:15:35 mircea_popescu: who the fuck needs reddit anymore. straight males in america!

20:18:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67450 @ 0.00050075 = 33.7756 BTC [+] {3}

20:19:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00049658 = 5.369 BTC [-]

20:20:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33838 @ 0.00049584 = 16.7782 BTC [-] {4}

20:21:46 phf: i like how the first one uses protective incantations. "henceforth and therefore ipso facto ... DATABASES!"

20:21:46 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu listens to metal now

20:21:55 mircea_popescu: well not now. but when i was 16

20:23:20 mod6: haha 'psychic height readers'

20:25:06 mircea_popescu: it's like a nut factory out there.

20:25:50 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you ever see reddit trying to get girls? it's not pretty.

20:26:15 mircea_popescu: heh.

20:28:15 BingoBoingo: lol mircea_popescu

20:32:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25094 @ 0.00049521 = 12.4268 BTC [-] {2}

20:37:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5895 @ 0.000504 = 2.9711 BTC [+] {3}

20:43:29 davout: ohai cult, also happy new year!

20:45:16 BingoBoingo: ohai davout

20:45:49 mod6: hny davout

20:46:24 mircea_popescu: they have new years in france too ?!

20:46:33 mircea_popescu: i thought they just reused the same one.

20:46:56 davout: we tried going on strike but 2016 came anyway, so meh

20:47:31 mircea_popescu: lolz

20:48:00 mircea_popescu: in other news, very convenient local shop i use for seafood ? closed for the holidays

20:48:06 mircea_popescu: UNTIL THE 18TH!

20:48:19 mircea_popescu: there are numerous places that close down FOR ALL OF DECEMBER.

20:48:24 mircea_popescu: and people give the french a hard time.

20:48:38 mircea_popescu: i don't think there exists an argentine that did a year's honest work total in his entire life.

20:48:44 davout: guess your december is our august

20:48:48 mircea_popescu: maybe some 107 year old somewhere on the border with chile or something.

20:49:23 mircea_popescu: davout hey, at least you have the muslims to hopefully kill all the males and rape all the females, reset the shithole.

20:49:32 mircea_popescu: all they got here are paraguayans, and they're short and few.

20:49:39 davout: paris is such a nice place in august, emptied of the dumbass parisians, and full of defenseless young american tourists

20:50:03 mircea_popescu: yeah, until a pipe cracks,

20:51:11 davout: not sure what you mean

20:51:24 mircea_popescu: cuz you'll have to find an american tourist that's also a plumber

20:52:07 deedbot-: [Qntra] Lead Top Performing Metal of 2015 - http://qntra.net/2016/01/lead-top-performing-metal-of-2015/

20:53:38 BingoBoingo: ^ In altcoin news

20:54:44 mircea_popescu: check it out we have a metals desk now ?

20:55:37 BingoBoingo: I heard it on the radio when driving for fresh cigarettes came back and confirmed while also seeing no one making this an internet print headline

20:57:13 BingoBoingo: spammy radio investing show had this headline on their AM band advertorial show, but not actual news outlets. After confirming with charts was too good to leave to spammers while the rest of the media is hungover.

20:57:50 davout: don't give out all your tricks like that!

20:59:27 BingoBoingo: Could be misdirection in an effort to get lurking competition to waste braincycles

21:00:08 davout: now you're giving away your deception tricks too

21:01:11 mircea_popescu: eh what brain cycles.

21:01:50 BingoBoingo: The precious few they have to spare after respiration is accounted for

21:06:17 BingoBoingo: It's not just distracting to them, actually life endangering

21:06:44 mircea_popescu: heh

21:11:05 BingoBoingo: Also there's people who are going to get the strategy wrong and waste time listening to low information talk radio with ear time instead of using their ears for anything else

21:13:12 jurov: !t m f.mpif

21:13:12 assbot: It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry.

21:13:54 mircea_popescu: o.O

21:14:26 BingoBoingo: !t m s.mg

21:14:26 assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.

21:14:40 BingoBoingo: !t m x.eur

21:14:41 assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00260472 / 0.00260493 / 0.00260623 (625 shares, 1.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00253536 / 0.0025824 / 0.00262332 (2731 shares, 7.05 BTC), 30D: 0.00061753 / 0.00218377 / 0.00282306 (14017 shares, 30.61 BTC)

21:18:37 jurov: it's assbot's way of telling these assets did not trade last month

21:19:25 mircea_popescu: yuppers

21:19:43 jurov: asciilifeform: turdatron mystery solved, gpg says you signed "aws banhammer" using old key

21:19:48 jurov: gpg: Signature made So 26. december 2015, 01:37:34 CET using RSA key ID 01ABFFC7

21:19:49 jurov: gpg: Good signature from "Stanislav Datskovskiy <stas@loper-os.org>" [expired]

21:20:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4216 @ 0.00049502 = 2.087 BTC [-]

21:27:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00049502 = 12.3507 BTC [-]

21:34:59 jurov: (and it ignores expiry date)

21:35:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9186 @ 0.00049502 = 4.5473 BTC [-]

21:35:06 jurov: !up Guest76880

21:39:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5185 @ 0.00050022 = 2.5936 BTC [+] {2}

21:40:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18015 @ 0.00050402 = 9.0799 BTC [+]

21:54:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8275 @ 0.0005001 = 4.1383 BTC [-] {2}

21:57:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.0005001 = 8.7017 BTC [-]

21:57:28 jurov: deedbot-: http://explo.yt/public/fmpif_201512.txt.asc

21:57:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXcIR6 )

21:57:29 deedbot-: accepted: 1

21:57:55 jurov: deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20160102/attachment_0451ec0ba3062d4608318f96270dd7c9f65e42e1.txt

21:57:57 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXcQ31 )

21:57:58 deedbot-: accepted: 1

21:58:38 mircea_popescu: le cool.

21:58:43 mircea_popescu: how was vacation jurov ?

21:59:05 jurov: very good

22:02:12 mircea_popescu: cool!

22:02:14 jurov: just sun and frost whole time, no snow at all. but we did not miss it, ended up hiking around in the mountains

22:02:35 BingoBoingo: Sweet

22:21:50 mircea_popescu: in some random butthurt, http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/utah-billboard-promotes-dating-site-whites-people-article-1.2483055

22:21:50 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXhcXO )

22:22:21 mircea_popescu: somehow they manage to go through that entire textgoop and not mention the thing's an obvious ripoff off some blackpeopledate thing.

22:22:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2909 @ 0.0005001 = 1.4548 BTC [-]

22:29:58 thestringpuller: !gettrust jstolfi

22:29:58 assbot: jstolfi is not registered in WoT.

22:31:25 davout: no shit

22:32:14 mircea_popescu: is this the attention whore that "quit reddit" for a week or something over "threats" ?

22:32:29 davout: precisely

22:33:14 mircea_popescu: must suck to suck.

22:35:57 shinohai: Heh I have seen jstofli in buttcoin and btctalk. He considers himself highly-educated on all topics Bitcoin despite not liking BTC at all, or so he claims.

22:36:34 mircea_popescu: if memory serves he was a thirld world "grad student" or somesuch.

22:39:08 mircea_popescu: ;;ud dtf

22:39:08 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=DTF | DOWN TO GET THAT DICK DTFNE1 down to fuck any 1. She's DTF, She wants my dick in or around her mouth! - SuperBad. by KENDALL L January 01, 2008.

22:39:18 mircea_popescu: the shit i'm learning.

22:39:46 shinohai: Yeah he is a grad student from Brasil.

22:41:14 davout: doesn't look like it: http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~stolfi/

22:41:15 assbot: Jorge Stolfi - Homepage/Página inicial ... ( http://bit.ly/1kB3eYI )

22:41:51 mircea_popescu: ;;google "Universidade Estadual de Campinas" rating

22:41:52 gribble: Universidade Estadual de Campinas (Unicamp) | Undergraduate ...: http://www.topuniversities.com/universities/universidade-estadual-de-campinas-unicamp/undergrad; Universidade Estadual de Campinas (Unicamp) Rankings | Top ...: http://www.topuniversities.com/node/2250/ranking-details/world-university-rankings/2014; University of Campinas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message)

22:42:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15916 @ 0.00049551 = 7.8865 BTC [-]

22:43:08 mircea_popescu: "Currently UNICAMP offers undergraduate degrees in 66 majors, including medicine, dentistry, several engineering specializations, basic natural and human sciences, applied sciences, teaching and arts. Its admission process is one of the most competitive in Brazil, with nearly 52,000 candidates for 3310 incoming students. Undergraduate education at UNICAMP is provided by the State of S?o Paulo for all its students free

22:43:08 mircea_popescu: of charge. In addition, housing, meals, transportation and a living stipend may also be provided on a need basis, so that of the 16,700 undergraduate students at UNICAMP, over 2,200 receive some support. Undergraduate education at UNICAMP operates in three campuses: the School of Dentistry in Piracicaba, the College of Applied Sciences and the College of Technology in Limeira"

22:43:25 mircea_popescu: apparently it's an actual university, check that out.

22:43:31 shinohai: heh

22:46:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23650 @ 0.00049516 = 11.7105 BTC [-] {2}

22:46:22 mircea_popescu: "Unicamp went from the 44th to the 28th position on the list of the world's top 100 universities under 50 years old, according to the ranking released on Wednesday (19) by Times Higher Education (THE), one of the most important institutions of evaluation of the higher education."

22:46:25 mircea_popescu: now this i gotta see.

22:47:51 mircea_popescu: http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2014#sorting=rank+region=+country=+faculty=+stars=false+search= << lies. they're not in the top 50.

22:47:53 assbot: QS World University Rankings® 2014/15 | Top Universities ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXlFK6 )

22:48:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00049502 = 17.4247 BTC [-] {2}

22:48:21 mircea_popescu: not in top 100 either.

22:50:55 mircea_popescu: anyway, whatevs.

22:54:10 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/nGwtpDP.jpg <<< Rather alluring despite the tats

22:54:10 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1kB44EP )

22:55:57 mircea_popescu: is allure codeword for nice ass ?

22:59:57 shinohai: Sumthin like that

23:00:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4308 @ 0.00049942 = 2.1515 BTC [+] {2}

23:02:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5394 @ 0.00049943 = 2.6939 BTC [+]

23:04:52 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM-Q_zpuJGU << in which hussein bahamas makes a pilgrimage to the mecca of clean comedy

23:04:53 assbot: Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee: "Just Tell Him You’re The President” (Season 7, Episode 1) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YXoquS )

23:05:03 pete_dushenski: (jerry seinfeld)

23:05:57 mircea_popescu: a show named after a boring pets thing got 7 seasons ?

23:06:01 mircea_popescu: my god has tv died

23:06:19 pete_dushenski: they're properly webisodes

23:06:34 mircea_popescu: ;;google hussein bahamas in funny hats through a wide angle lens

23:06:35 gribble: Mars Curiosity: Internet pranksters set to work on viral pictures with ...: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2184966/Mars-Curiosity-Internet-pranksters-set-work-viral-pictures-help-Photoshop.html; Did Google Street View capture a UFO in Missouri? Experts weigh in ...: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267412/Did-Google-Street-View-capture-UFO-Missouri- (1 more message)

23:07:02 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359256 << that's just about the worst thing that western europe could've ever exported. /me is glad that canada has no such affliction

23:07:02 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 20:48:06; mircea_popescu: UNTIL THE 18TH!

23:07:59 pete_dushenski: speaking of albertastan, i wonder how hard it would be to track down that 31 yo romo-ish event-planner-cum-banker chickie. she can't be far away.

23:08:33 mircea_popescu: and do what ?

23:08:35 pete_dushenski: i'm sure she'd be thrilled to hear that her reputation precedes her

23:08:42 mircea_popescu: lol.

23:09:18 pete_dushenski: not even ironically !

23:09:35 pete_dushenski: "oh i'm so wounded, i mean flattered"

23:11:47 pete_dushenski: eh, if i ever so happen to cross paths with her, i'll poke her with an ascerbic stick and then run away like the little junior high boy i am, singing merrily about how nowhere's safe from the internet

23:14:51 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359203 << hot damn that's tall.. you trying to make more pantagruels or something ?

23:14:51 assbot: Logged on 02-01-2016 19:39:32; mircea_popescu: i spent all morning going through a line of 1.80 hotties.

23:15:58 mircea_popescu: but...why ?

23:16:04 mircea_popescu: some random chick, what's the big deal.

23:16:30 mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm fucking tall, i like tall chicks... it's an eastern european thing.

23:17:24 pete_dushenski: lol twas a just a joke. my fillie is 1.78m tall

23:17:36 pete_dushenski: I KNOW YOU'RE NOT HAVING KIDS

23:19:36 pete_dushenski: i'm sure my little pantagruel will be dating chicks 1.9m+ if he gets anywhere near the 2.0m+ he's on track for.

23:19:49 pete_dushenski: anyways, bbias

23:24:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.0004966 = 9.634 BTC [-] {5}

23:31:53 mircea_popescu: !up gentoognuhurd

23:39:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89200 @ 0.0004943 = 44.0916 BTC [-] {3}

23:45:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00050405 = 5.0153 BTC [+] {3}

23:48:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25619 @ 0.00050434 = 12.9207 BTC [+] {3}

23:53:35 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_rear