Transcript for 02-06-2017, 78 lines:
09:33:17 kakobrekla: >> but the one thing you don’t expect to happen is to be robbed in seconds on a site with a cleaner user interface design than Chase Bank.
09:33:23 kakobrekla: css matters.
09:33:54 punkman: it does but yeah it doesn't work like that
09:37:24 punkman: "my interface is not shitty, didn't you know not to touch the foot-gun, you idiot. all my clients are dragons, fuck you"
10:05:39 punkman: ;;tall
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14:19:12 funkenstein_: big three CN exchanges reflecting street prices once again, allowing withdraws :D
14:20:32 funkenstein_: can anybody tell me what a globalist is?
14:21:06 funkenstein_: opposite of flat earther or something?
14:21:28 pankkake: if you define it, it loses its power
14:21:37 funkenstein_: ah nice ok :)
14:21:38 pankkake: it's more like a jew
14:21:50 funkenstein_: gotcha
14:21:53 funkenstein_: general purpose polemic
14:22:39 punkman: globalist, globalisation, new world order
14:24:23 funkenstein_: useful for self-discrediting
14:25:32 funkenstein_: if racism wasn't good enough at that you can step it up a notch
14:26:46 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2017#1472013 <-- should I ask what this means or just leave it? :D
14:26:46 assbot: Logged on 01-06-2017 15:23:32; jurov: Framedragger:enjoy the innocence while it lasts. as you get older, you realize our whole civilization runs on bullshit.
14:29:59 funkenstein_: a reference to the nitrogen cycle perhaps
14:30:47 punkman: computers are shit, computers are everywhere, qed
14:32:07 funkenstein_: ah so you're saying mostly broken tools do most of the work
14:34:34 Framedragger: :D basically. #insights
14:41:23 Framedragger: free repairs and upgrades doesn't sound too bad, maybe worth for some, depending on what lifetime "upgrades" mean exactly
14:42:44 pankkake: the insides are dumb. motherboard io panel isn't even accessible from the outside
14:43:05 pankkake: Dust-Free Airflow
14:43:46 Framedragger: ah, the good ol' apple "don't look inside"
14:43:54 pankkake: lol at "Designer" pic
14:44:01 asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for the comp that has 0 case, just massive pour of thermoepoxy
14:44:46 asciilifeform: ( i suspect that it would already exist, but such material plays very rough with pcb track impedance )
14:44:55 pankkake: they go to a lot of trouble not to use the (m)ATX layout
14:45:46 pankkake: you could try to submerge it in oil
15:12:51 asciilifeform: pankkake: oil works ok for transformers, where the heat is somewhat diffuse to begin with, but not so great for comp
15:13:11 asciilifeform: you end up having to circulate it, which quickly becomes a bitch ( pumps, leaks )
18:15:27 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: yours ?
19:35:25 jurov: https://www.root.cz/clanky/utopte-servery-v-oleji-usetrite-a-vyhrejete-mestsky-bazen/#ic=index-tips&icc=tip-0 << czechs tried to submerge in oil, they report it goes surprisingly okay
19:36:17 jurov: just put away all fans, they don't work well in oil, and use helium HDDs
19:39:39 asciilifeform: 'fluorinert' is the champ
19:41:19 jurov: notrly, evaporation just adds complications
19:41:31 asciilifeform: you put it in a sealed vessel, what.
19:41:37 asciilifeform: the open-air tubs are ick
19:41:45 jurov: sealed vessel ==== complication
19:41:45 asciilifeform: and used by 0 serious anybody, for anything
19:41:56 asciilifeform: dead flies and dust in your coolant -- also complication
19:42:00 asciilifeform: not to mention knocking it over
19:42:39 jurov: you are supposed to have filtered air in any serious dc anyway, no?
19:43:05 asciilifeform: ever open a box that's been in this 'filtered' dc..?
19:43:16 asciilifeform: was it clean enough that you'd eat from it ?
19:43:39 jurov: you said flies
19:44:06 asciilifeform: well, linked photo showed room with buncha d00dz, not dc
19:46:44 asciilifeform: jurov: neato
19:46:51 asciilifeform: jurov: i notice they did put in circulator pumps, however
19:47:04 asciilifeform: it ain't solid-state.
19:47:31 jurov: "cheap pumps as used in heating infrastructure"
19:47:45 jurov: compare to your sealed fluorinert dreams
19:48:07 asciilifeform: jurov: what was the point of this design ?
19:48:10 asciilifeform: overclock ?
19:48:44 pankkake: overclock + make french fries
19:49:06 asciilifeform: asciilifeform's old water-cooled machine ( this was in early 2000s and much of the necessary gear was not commercially available yet ) was intended to be quiet
19:49:09 jurov: when they move oil instead of air, it is actually simpler, and allows for use of the heat to warm water
19:49:11 asciilifeform: this was -- a failure
19:51:33 asciilifeform: jurov: what happens when you want to swap out a dead hdd ?
19:52:28 jurov: same as usual. with one added step "let the oil drip off before RMA"
19:54:00 asciilifeform: how do you get the oil off the cable's pins ?
19:54:06 asciilifeform: when pluggin in new hdd
19:55:30 jurov: try reading discussion, maybe it's asked there somewhere
19:55:48 *: asciilifeform puts it in list