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00:08:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4156 @ 0.00082402 = 3.4246 BTC [+]

00:20:01 ben_vulpes: mthreat: mircea_popescu: has ars customs completely cut amazon off from delivering?

00:30:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11187 @ 0.00082092 = 9.1836 BTC [-]

00:33:42 mthreat: ben_vulpes: apparently it is very hard to receive stuff. I haven't even tried to order anything.

00:33:55 ben_vulpes: mthreat: what's the in-country equivalent?

00:34:09 mthreat: ben_vulpes: MercadoLibre.com.ar is probably the closest thing

00:34:16 mthreat: simialr to ebay

00:37:19 ben_vulpes: jesus fuck chrome keeps retranslating the site every time the js does something

00:37:20 ben_vulpes: FUCK OFF

00:37:28 ben_vulpes: RAHGHGA

00:46:03 ben_vulpes: ahahahahahahahahaha

00:46:04 ben_vulpes: http://superuser.com/a/680219

00:46:04 assbot: linux - Encrypt tar file asymmetrically - Super User

01:03:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12608 @ 0.00082402 = 10.3892 BTC [+]

01:16:11 asciilifeform: '...Plaintiffs Proposed Complaint includes a letter directed to Edward Snowden, in which Plaintiff seeks damages for any and all actions that

01:16:11 asciilifeform: Mr. Snowden is alleged to have taken against the United States and challenges Mr. Snowden to a

01:16:11 asciilifeform: game of poker at a casino of Mr. Snowden's choosing. (Id. at 21-30.) Finally, Plaintiff seeks to

01:16:11 asciilifeform: recover ten duodecillion dollars in damages (llL. at 56), which is a one followed by thirty-seven

01:16:11 asciilifeform: zeroes and equates to roughly 5.8 x 1023 times the gross domestic product of the United States.'

01:16:35 asciilifeform: (http://cryptome.org/2014/08/purisima-snowden.pdf - mega-lol, handwritten 'lawsuit')

01:28:54 decimation: lol it's so crazy and yet it's written in legalese

01:31:17 decimation: 9. The only feasible option for your own Benefit (is "come back" and surrender Here in the U.S.A. AS WELL AS "FACE THE MUSIC," as alleged by the Interviews to you on television on or about May 2014 (TO FACE THE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST YOU). Then, I will try to TONE THE MUSIC DOWN FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN DANCE EASILY WITH YOUR FAVORITE MUSIC AS WELL AS DANCE WITH (YOUR "PARTNERS") HEREIN.

01:32:37 cazalla: mircea_popescu, http://bible-truths.com/23-min3.jpg << that's pretty great. why does it look like diablo ?! <<< diablo has not looked like that for some time, she got a make over in diablo 3

01:33:29 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: measuring the OD of a tube << try archimedes. drown the tube, find displacement. then seal tube at one end, fill with water, find inner volume. what next - exercise for alert reader.

01:33:56 ben_vulpes: paha

01:34:14 ben_vulpes: u funny asciilifeform

01:35:35 asciilifeform: see also the tired old childrens' puzzle with barometer.

01:38:17 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: borrow a 'Pnohe' with camera. photograph end of tube with object of known size laid across diameter. count pixels...

01:39:15 asciilifeform: (a coin, in most countries, is good to < 1%)

01:41:21 asciilifeform: alternatively, find... a bullet. typical tolerance of caliber is near 0.001 mm

01:41:47 asciilifeform: if easier to find bullet than coin, re-examine engineering priorities in project.

01:44:32 asciilifeform: one more method. find and disassemble a computer. inside, search for an ic with quad flatpack (e.g. TQFP-44) package. lay tube sideways across (unpowered) pins, count pins. look up their pitch (typically 0.5mm).

01:45:18 ben_vulpes: XD

01:45:24 decimation: asciilifeform: FYI you can listen to that Morse code vaccuum pendulum clock on the remote shortwave receiver I linked a few days ago.

01:45:26 ben_vulpes: okay okay i'm a retard i get it

01:45:41 decimation: I imagine the design tolerance of an SMT part is quite tight

01:52:38 decimation: http://cryptome.org/2014/07/gao-14-686r.pdf

01:53:42 decimation: If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted?

02:03:04 ben_vulpes: gpg --encrypt -r "$recip_1" -r "$recip_2" ... - how intersperse "-r" with the elements of $KEYS_OF_INTEREST

02:03:06 ben_vulpes: ?

02:03:39 ben_vulpes: wrong chan, but if anyone's of the sentiment...

02:06:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.295 = 1.475 BTC [-]

02:22:53 BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight

02:29:19 BingoBoingo: justusranvier: There are many reasons why homeopathy is a scam, mircea_popescu: but yeah, i suppose it's a good proof they don't grok objective reality. << Homeopaths make their cheddar on conditions that test well against placebo

02:32:25 Duffer1: lmao

02:32:29 Duffer1: way to aim low

02:32:55 justusranvier: I just wish they'd be honest. Placebos can do some good by lowering stress, which lowers cortosol, which would otherwise get in the way of natural healing processes.

02:33:24 justusranvier: So homeopathy is just another way of saying "sometimes if you make people feel better they heal faster"

02:33:40 justusranvier: It's a minor, but non-zero, effect.

02:34:08 justusranvier: But they can't just leave it at that. They've got to cloak it in a bunch of pseudoscience bullshit

02:34:37 RebeccaBitcoin: Good Evening!

02:35:38 Duffer1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

02:35:38 assbot: That Mitchell and Webb Look: Homeopathic A&E - YouTube

02:36:34 BingoBoingo: justusranvier: From an article you linked >> "What they don?t understand is that Ebola is unlikely to spread very far because it is so fatal." << What makes this new strain particularly dangerous is it is only killing ~60% of patients

02:37:09 BingoBoingo: Evening RebeccaBitcoin

02:37:10 RebeccaBitcoin: oo are we discussing conspiracy theories?

02:37:17 RebeccaBitcoin: how the US infected people with ebola

02:37:19 RebeccaBitcoin: and shot down the plane

02:37:20 BingoBoingo: RebeccaBitcoin: Aren't we always?

02:37:21 RebeccaBitcoin: false flag operation

02:38:06 BingoBoingo: RebeccaBitcoin: Nah this is the one where seekrit Ebola cure gets snuck into worthless homeopathic remedies to save Obama care dollars.

02:38:18 RebeccaBitcoin: lol

02:38:42 justusranvier: Evolution in action. The least-successful viruses kill their hosts quickly. The better ones kill their host more slowly so they can infect more people. THe most successful ones don't make the host sick at all, and instead infect the germ line and become immortal.

02:38:58 RebeccaBitcoin: I've always wanted to orchestrate a false flag operation.

02:39:17 BingoBoingo: justusranvier: Exactly that

02:40:13 justusranvier: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/02/14/mammals-made-by-viruses/

02:40:15 assbot: Mammals Made By Viruses : The Loom

02:42:08 BingoBoingo: A decent percent of the human genome share dna with various traditional STD causing pathogens.

02:42:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-july-2014/

02:42:25 justusranvier: The viruses that make us sick are the failures of the virus world. The virus winners are the ones that create entirely new species.

02:43:28 RebeccaBitcoin: you say it as if viruses can think

02:43:53 justusranvier: You don't need to be able to think in order to fail

02:43:56 BingoBoingo: Well, technically they are roughly as living as fire

02:45:20 BingoBoingo: Or more virus's have all of the instructions to live, but none of the aparratus to live on their own

02:46:46 justusranvier: As yet, there is no proper definition of life.

02:47:51 justusranvier: We consider cells to be alive. We consider multicellular organisims to be alive. They aren't quite alive in the same way that so far eludes a precise definition.

02:47:53 BingoBoingo: Which is why insist fire lives, in a minimalist sense

02:48:27 justusranvier: There was some physicist working on a thermodynamic definition of life.

02:48:53 justusranvier: Fire probably qualifies, even clouds maybe

02:50:35 BingoBoingo: On the other hand... Sometimes I want to restrict my definition of living to things I could, at least in theory, eat.

02:50:45 RebeccaBitcoin: lol

02:50:49 RebeccaBitcoin: So humans = yes

02:50:52 RebeccaBitcoin: dogs = yes

02:50:55 justusranvier: Rather anthromorphic of you

02:51:19 RebeccaBitcoin: You could eat clouds...

02:51:26 RebeccaBitcoin: you could also eat fire

02:51:52 RebeccaBitcoin: I guess we then have to define eat

02:52:59 BingoBoingo: justusranvier: Well, I experience the world as homo sapiens

02:53:57 justusranvier: The characteristic that sets you apart from the other primates is the ability to derive universal principles and apply them.

02:54:14 justusranvier: (Or other primate/pig hybrids, if that hypothesis turns out to be true)

02:55:56 BingoBoingo: lol

03:05:42 []bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $450 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1010/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.84679693 BTC. Current weight: 92,773.

03:23:12 BingoBoingo: !up cgcardona

03:23:28 cgcardona: thank you sir. :-] authing w/ gribble as we speak

03:24:53 cgcardona: ok done.

03:24:55 cgcardona: good

03:26:41 BingoBoingo: cool

03:28:55 mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> mthreat: mircea_popescu: has ars customs completely cut amazon off from delivering? << i've not yet tried mail.

03:30:24 mircea_popescu: <cazalla> diablo has not looked like that for some time, she got a make over in diablo 3 << sadly.

03:30:54 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> if easier to find bullet than coin, re-examine engineering priorities in project. <<< ahah the foregoing was worth it.

03:31:37 mircea_popescu: <decimation> If USG doesn't consider failure to pay federal taxes a basis to deny a security clearance, one wonders upon what basis the clearance is granted? <<< i don't think you understand how few people still pay their taxes.

03:31:45 mircea_popescu: i don't mean the schmucks that don't make anything.

03:33:25 mircea_popescu: justusranvier BingoBoingo re the virus discussion, i suppose you're familiar with the viral theory of the origin of the mitochondria

03:33:39 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed

03:33:43 mircea_popescu: after all, they are genetically different (and that's why the mother dna is actually more dna than the father's)

03:35:35 kakobrekla: looking at resolved @ bitbet front page

03:35:46 kakobrekla: who figured out betting on 'no' works again?

03:36:16 BingoBoingo: Well, I may have to do some remembering... or reading... but it may have been a cellulaur organism rather than a virii that did mitochondrion

03:36:35 mircea_popescu: yeah, it may have been

03:37:40 BingoBoingo: mitochondria though are the ultimate example though of "If you can, you must" as having mitochondira is so much better than not having them

03:39:55 mircea_popescu: yup

03:40:10 mircea_popescu: and even all the trouble of getting oxigen to them,

03:40:23 mircea_popescu: bloodstream, all the hassle of hemoglobin, the expense of feeces being 80% that

03:40:34 mircea_popescu: kidneys, everything's worth it just to make the tiny coal plant go.

03:42:15 mthreat: cgcardona: you lived on kauai right?

03:42:32 BingoBoingo: I mean organisms without mitochondria still exist, but... at still greater cost in what they are limited to being.

03:42:37 cgcardona: yea I’ve lived there off and on several times since 2002. why?

03:43:12 asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/jO5ngVF.png

03:43:23 mthreat: cgcardona: when i get back to the US in 2016, i want to live there for 3-6 months, and i'm curious about housing options

03:43:33 asciilifeform: (^ on considerably less interesting subject than mitochondria)

03:43:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lolk

03:43:51 cgcardona: where are you now? It’s an amazing place to live. kind of expensive but worth the price for what you get

03:43:51 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

03:44:05 cgcardona: of course it’s a small island so you get a little island fever after a while

03:44:18 cgcardona: thats why my family and i like to do 3-6 months on island at a time

03:44:27 cgcardona: but that sounds like what you’re planning so you should be good.

03:44:42 mthreat: cgcardona: in argentina now... I spent 1 week in kauai before. I'll be taking helicopter lessons with Mauna Lao Helicopters

03:44:50 cgcardona: oh sweet.

03:45:14 cgcardona: yeah i’ve yet to take helicopter tour there. I really wanted to this last time but never got around to it and then we ended up leaving early.

03:45:23 mthreat: cgcardona: they have schools on Oahu, big island, and kauai, and kauai just seems like the most beautiful of the islands

03:45:37 cgcardona: without questions. it’s the garden island. and def the bestIMO

03:45:44 cgcardona: its (dare I say) magical

03:46:02 cgcardona: ⭐️

03:46:19 mthreat: what would you estimate a place for a couple would cost per month, with a kitchen for cooking, somewhere not too far from Lihue airport

03:46:53 asciilifeform: ⭐️⭐️⭐️☭⭐️⭐️⭐️

03:46:58 asciilifeform: ^ if we're abusing unicode...

03:47:17 cgcardona: asciilifeform: *if* we’re abusing unicode? When aren’t we abusing unicode?

03:47:36 asciilifeform: lol

03:48:07 cgcardona: mthreat: i was just paying 800 for a studio downstairs apartment but it was a little on the island style side of things so we upgraded to a 2 bedroom for 1500 in downtown kapaa that was baiscally like a vacation rental. very nice and clean

03:48:19 cgcardona: so about 1500ish for something nice but relatively small.

03:48:26 mthreat: ok cool

03:49:26 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/that-aint-the-maslow-pyramid-yo/

03:52:43 punkman: buen dia

03:55:35 mircea_popescu: hola

03:56:17 mircea_popescu: cgcardona i bet you that's more per sq foot than the businesses in downtown san francisco can possibly afford

03:56:24 mircea_popescu: according to some shit i read in the press.

03:56:43 cgcardona: mircea_popescu: according to some shit I read in the press Romania just got into btc

03:56:44 cgcardona: haha

03:56:56 cgcardona: i thought of you when I read that article. I’m like ‘huh?’ ‘wtf'

03:57:15 mircea_popescu: well... the press lol.

03:57:18 cgcardona: haha

03:57:31 mircea_popescu: buncha people had this same chuckle.

03:57:33 cgcardona: http://euronews.com/2014/07/29/romania-buys-into-bitcoin-big-time/

03:57:33 assbot: Romania buys into bitcoin big time | euronews, corporate

03:57:40 cgcardona: ah ok yea I figured y’all had seen it.

03:57:45 mircea_popescu: odds are this bunch is more numerous than the bunch that still reads romanian press.

03:58:47 cgcardona: MP - I saw that you answered me that noone has taken you up on the ether. I’m kinda surprised.

03:59:10 cgcardona: but I guess that was the point of the excersise at all so you’re probably not surprised

04:00:03 mircea_popescu: im kind-of surprised. not rly, but hey.

04:00:27 cgcardona: where is the URL for that deal?

04:00:48 cgcardona: i’m still thinking of buying some there (yes I know the shame that will bring on me here)

04:01:06 cgcardona: `/s/there/ether/`

04:01:30 cgcardona: i’m still unclear if there is a hard cap on the numer of ether

04:01:41 mircea_popescu: ;;refresh

04:01:42 gribble: Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed.

04:01:49 mircea_popescu: tis in the book.

04:01:57 punkman: cgcardona: there's no cap

04:02:19 cgcardona: mircea_popescu: i still don’t totally know how to use the book

04:02:22 *: cgcardona hangs head in shame

04:02:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: article: '...player asshole narcissist dick in a NSA relationship.' << wtf is nsa relationship?

04:02:31 cgcardona: if there are docs Ill gladly read them

04:02:38 asciilifeform: one views the other on hidden camera?

04:02:54 mircea_popescu: cgcardona http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php

04:02:54 assbot: #bitcoin-otc order book

04:03:01 cgcardona: punkman: really? hmm well I guess that means that picking up some ether hoping they increase in value probably isn’t a good idea

04:03:02 mircea_popescu: or you could just query gribble but im usually too lazy to

04:03:02 punkman: asciilifeform: no strings attached

04:03:06 cgcardona: MP - thanks

04:03:13 asciilifeform: punkman: aha

04:03:29 asciilifeform: because that line crashed my puny brain

04:03:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no strings attached.

04:03:42 punkman: asciilifeform: I liked your interpretation

04:03:45 mircea_popescu: like, you know, how people have sex.

04:03:59 asciilifeform: damnit, here i was, thinking 'nsa relationship' is now a standard thing

04:04:06 mircea_popescu: it actually comes from a great bogart line, he tells slim to walk around him.

04:04:10 mircea_popescu: "didja find any strings ?"

04:04:32 mthreat: hehe i want to see someone use that in real life some day

04:05:45 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheNUWyROv8 (same film, better known scene)

04:05:45 assbot: Lauren Bacall Whistle - YouTube

04:06:31 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: 'incel' article: what i always found interesting is that we always hear from the fellow who has yet to 'learn a skill become good at it' and not from the one who never learned how to safely unscrew the fuse on a woman because he had theorems to prove.

04:06:58 mircea_popescu: guess what ? that guy's still got theorems to prove.

04:07:01 asciilifeform: correct

04:07:06 asciilifeform: so we don't get article.

04:07:23 mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as we got plenty o theorems already proven..

04:07:28 mircea_popescu: we dun really need it either.

04:08:12 asciilifeform: 'man: would you like a book? Chukcha (similar to eskimo, butt of soviet jokes) replies: 'thank you - i already own a book.'

04:08:28 mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire "idiots figure they're people too" side of the internet is like a lake of stu

04:08:35 mircea_popescu: you can paddle all around it in a big canoe

04:10:37 asciilifeform: gedankenexperiment. imagine if it were not possible to starve to death - folks who can't find any food would, say, photosynthetize (this is not geometrically/thermodynamically possible in life, but imagine for a moment.) what would the people who have never, or almost never, eaten - write on the subject?

04:11:18 mircea_popescu: that it's gross, inconvenient and prolly unethical.

04:11:20 asciilifeform: assuming hunger still worked like it does in actual world

04:11:35 asciilifeform: i.e., you remain hungry while solar powered

04:12:00 mircea_popescu: dude this is actually a great fucking punishment.

04:12:05 mircea_popescu: i hope genetic engineering yields it.

04:12:24 mircea_popescu: it'd definitely make me enjoy reading teh internets more.

04:12:29 asciilifeform: even though man does not photosynthetize, this is rather close to reality in recent past. notice how prominently delicacies figure in old fairy tales

04:12:46 asciilifeform: and descriptions of feasts, in myth and legend

04:12:46 mircea_popescu: yup

04:12:53 punkman: sloth does photosynthesis http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/28/science/the-sloths-busy-inner-life.html

04:12:56 assbot: Log In - The New York Times

04:12:57 mircea_popescu: the entire premise of norse heaven is food.

04:13:03 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you ever saw the daisies movie ?

04:13:09 asciilifeform: sloth << sure, so does man - for vitamin 'd'

04:13:17 asciilifeform: daisies << negative

04:13:28 mircea_popescu: it's not bad. author got banned because she displayed wastage of food.

04:13:34 mircea_popescu: 1960 czech republic.

04:13:36 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gedankenexperiment. imagine if it were not possible to starve to death - folks who can't find any food would, say, photosynthetize (this is not geometrically/thermodynamically possible in life, but imagine for a moment.) what would the people who have never, or almost never, eaten - write on the subject? << Reddit aspires to buy monitors with sufficient brightness to enable photosynthesis, gets scammed on kickstart

04:13:36 BingoBoingo: er

04:13:50 mircea_popescu: lol

04:14:54 asciilifeform: if anyone remembers dan mocsny (usenet crackpot linked here a while ago) - he dwelled in newsgroups devoted to 'incel' subject.

04:15:19 asciilifeform: everyone there, as i recall, fit the overall pattern (no theorems...)

04:15:28 mircea_popescu: the guy i linked is actually noteworthy because he takes the dilution of rape one step further : he claims his experience's been rape.

04:15:51 mircea_popescu: In fact, you could call this my own personal rape. I?m sure women will be up in arms for me calling it that, but what is the criteria for it? I feel shame. I am unable to talk about it with others. I will invariably be blamed for the outcome i suffered because of the way *I* acted. Being beta was ?wearing a miniskirt?. Acting like a NiceGuy was ?being overly flirtatious?. Respecting women and pedestalizing th

04:15:51 mircea_popescu: em was going up to a guys room at 2am for a late night coffee.

04:15:51 mircea_popescu: I deserved it for being unattractive. You deserved it for being too attractive. We both got fucked and not in the way we wanted it. You had no power and had violation inflicted upon you. I had no power or right to feel like a human being inflicted upon me. You were penetrated against your will. Feminism and woman bent me over and fucked me up the ass while laughing at me. We both wanted death. Yet i was a source of rid

04:15:53 asciilifeform: old. there were at least two poor devils in alt.support.somethingorother who did just this

04:15:53 mircea_popescu: icule, you are the poster child of Slutwalk. And so it is.

04:16:06 mircea_popescu: a really ?

04:16:09 asciilifeform: and worked it into a mega-flamewar lasting a year.

04:16:11 mircea_popescu: i am but an ignorant asshole.

04:16:23 mircea_popescu: anyway, it's lulzy what socialism's own "to each according to his needs" makes out of people.

04:16:28 mircea_popescu: a needy bunch.

04:17:28 decimation: "I got to have the pleasure of defending women from the barbs and negs of my player friends only to watch these same women i defended end up going home to sleep with them. My brain simply could not comprehend what the fuck was going on. What the fuck is wrong with these women? Oh Wait! I?m not allowed to question that."

04:17:31 mircea_popescu: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1344769/thumbs/o-SLUTWALK-CHICAGO-2013-facebook.jpg << holy shit that's risky.

04:17:52 decimation: so the alpha male, femenism, the hot woman, and his own brain are raping him?

04:19:10 decimation: as the last pscyhiatrist might say, he might be happy if he wasn't so invested in being unhappy

04:19:13 mircea_popescu: http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Slutwalk+Hits+Melbourne+Streets+VlMuQYwSqO4l.jpg <<< ahahh o brother.

04:19:25 asciilifeform: if you examine in detail the incel 'canon', most of the afflicted tend to believe in a quasi-mythical past, when they would have, presumably, been 'issued' something to fuck - like a soldier is issued his uniform

04:19:27 mircea_popescu: decimation i kinda say it too. and probably anyone with a clue that ever saw him.

04:19:32 mircea_popescu: he doesn't mention that part. obviously.

04:20:03 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the various fringe groups all do this. anarchists have their pre-state garden of eden, so do goldbugs, so does everyone.

04:20:08 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

04:20:10 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 593.29, Best ask: 595.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.71000, Last trade: 595.0, 24 hour volume: 12152.23796245, 24 hour low: 581.77, 24 hour high: 607.2, 24 hour vwap: 595.995339277

04:20:30 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is how one diagnoses a clinical failure of... imagination.

04:20:40 asciilifeform: (an organ like any other, apparently - fails)

04:20:54 decimation: in the days of arranged marraige he might have been issued a woman - if his father was a somebody

04:21:17 mircea_popescu: if his father was somebody he'd have been in a world of hurt.

04:21:36 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2012/fridericus-rex-unser-konig-und-herr/ such as.

04:21:38 assbot: Fridericus Rex, unser Konig und Herr pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

04:21:48 decimation: maybe he would then write about how his wife hates him or something

04:22:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, the fellow who was ordered to behead his best chum

04:23:02 mircea_popescu: myeah.

04:23:20 mircea_popescu: well, also teh historical prussian figure.

04:25:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3151 = 0.6302 BTC [+]

04:28:27 BingoBoingo: The American Political class and their mythical 1950's

04:28:58 mircea_popescu: i suppose the success of socialism may trace to this, that it has no mythical age in the past.

04:29:01 asciilifeform: any good myth - has a dose of fact

04:29:53 decimation: encouraging the masses to believe that they live at the end of history certainly helps this myth

04:31:24 mircea_popescu: i suspect any good myth has a dose of nonfactual commonplace thought.

04:31:40 mircea_popescu: take the immaculate conception. it's not that any woman ever did. not even close.

04:32:08 mircea_popescu: but it's that so many men over the years thought about the possibility that maybe wifey/daughter/mom's just pregnant ?

04:32:16 mircea_popescu: like, no fucking, it just happened ?

04:32:19 mircea_popescu: please ?

04:35:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/stellar-come-less-cool-name/

04:36:20 decimation: lol the altcoin Urea?

04:56:37 asciilifeform: fuckitall. watched that clip, now i just wanna be in friedrich's army. what have you done mircea_popescu!

05:01:07 decimation: I wonder what Friedrich would say about today's Deutschland?

05:08:57 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pGjITOezVk << translated by same people? (also famous folksong)

05:08:57 assbot: Unser Liebe Fraue (English Subtitle) - YouTube

05:12:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00082078 = 2.6675 BTC [-] {2}

05:13:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00082058 = 14.4012 BTC [-]

05:20:18 decimation: that makes me think of the Hessian Landesknecht dwelling across the Delaware from Washington's camp, waiting for the Whig generals to make up their mind...

05:24:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00082417 = 9.6016 BTC [+] {2}

05:25:52 BingoBoingo: Watch the base of the thing holding the hoop http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Paul_George_injury.gif

05:26:54 cazalla: oh snap

05:27:25 BingoBoingo: literally

05:33:15 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWJOkzLBPak << re: 'mythical golden ages'

05:33:15 assbot: Wir wollen unseren alten Kaiser Wilhelm wiederhaben (English Subtitle) - YouTube

05:35:55 decimation: Note that many of the Germans who yearned for old Kaiser Wilhelm went to America to live "free"

05:36:33 decimation: this might have worked out for the first generation, but now their great-great-great grandchildren are yearning for Kaiser Wilhelm here ...

05:40:10 BingoBoingo: A hundred years ago most the the local papers were in German

05:40:36 decimation: America is a German country by ethnicity (of white people anyway)

05:41:07 decimation: it just became ... uncool ... to be German during WWI and WWII

05:42:47 BingoBoingo: Well, over much of the US the reason why small town X and small town Y were not bigger town Z, was the differing origins of the original settlers

05:46:12 decimation: I'm convinced that one of the reasons that pre-WWII germany spiraled out of control was because people who were able to make something of themselves had already left 50 years earlier

05:46:22 decimation: and the rest died in WW I

05:47:48 asciilifeform: just became ... uncool ... to be German << anglo elite's kool aid.

05:48:11 asciilifeform: germany as cultural wasteland during the wars << same

05:48:24 decimation: ascii I agree with you

05:48:51 decimation: unfortunately the German population immediately gave up and submitted to anglo rule

05:49:16 decimation: otherwise you might find a genuine Germantown somewhere

05:49:17 asciilifeform: germany is a thing that exists in the pages of books - like rome, ussr.

05:49:33 asciilifeform: and usa.

05:49:46 asciilifeform: there's its home now.

05:50:04 decimation: there is much truth in this. my grandmother's line comes from German settlers in Odessa

05:50:33 decimation: supposedly they showed a great reverance for Tzar Nikolai

05:51:16 decimation: nevertheless, like in Mircea's comic, real life goes on, and one cannot dwell in the past

05:52:03 asciilifeform: there'll be great kings in future. but not willie with the beard, the one with the long, long beard.

05:52:40 decimation: heh is that a reference to islam or jews or marxists?

05:52:56 asciilifeform: decimation: nope. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#781777

05:52:57 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

05:53:18 decimation: there is actually a small Germantown in America: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_German

05:53:18 assbot: Texas German - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

05:54:01 BingoBoingo: decimation: Similar towns exist in the Ozarks and Appalacia

05:54:20 BingoBoingo: With their own German dialacts

05:54:42 decimation: on Moldbug's recommendation I read this book: http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924028685505#page/n3/mode/2up

05:54:44 assbot: The land of the dollar

05:55:32 decimation: The British newspaperman visited America around 1898 I think, he mentioned the terrible might of America and express fear that they could invade ... England

05:55:52 decimation: see the anglo elite above for why that didn't happen...

05:56:01 BingoBoingo: http://kbia.org/post/disappearing-german-dialect-still-spoken-missouri

05:56:02 assbot: A disappearing German dialect still spoken in Missouri | KBIA

05:56:42 BingoBoingo: Who know what Scandanavian dialects might live in the frozen north of Minnesota

05:56:43 decimation: yeah MIssouri was the "open frontier" when the Germans were settling

05:57:15 BingoBoingo: Much of Missouri is still "frontier"

05:57:42 decimation: somewhere in the logs I linked to a modern German who expressed absolute dismay at "german culture" in America

06:01:12 decimation: http://www.civilwarsignals.org/smf/index.php?topic=803.0

06:01:13 assbot: An Error Has Occurred!

06:03:10 decimation: honestly I think the old guy who grew up speaking Texas German has a better claim on "germanness" then some kid who was brainwashed with post WWII allied propaganda

06:07:10 BingoBoingo: decimation: Thread seems to support the idea that Germany only lives in books and the festivals he finds so offensive

06:08:43 BingoBoingo: The Germans who settled the American frontier did not descend from techno clubs and Angela Merkel

06:09:24 BingoBoingo: Germany as a meaningful idea to their ancestors froze ~1830-1870

06:10:03 decimation: exactly

06:10:25 decimation: granted, it's a mistake to think of that as another golden age too - there's a reason they all left Germany after all

06:11:18 BingoBoingo: Right

06:17:40 BingoBoingo: But many of the German migrants weren't doing so out of poverty, but of poverty of opportunity and the perception of the opportunity to pretend to be the gentry they could not back home

06:19:37 TheNewDeal: sounds like the US

06:20:17 BingoBoingo: Well, what is history, but repetition

06:56:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 214 @ 0.00295 = 0.6313 BTC [+] {2}

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07:04:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 825 @ 0.00305027 = 2.5165 BTC [+] {7}

07:06:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.315 = 0.63 BTC [+]

07:08:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.31 = 1.55 BTC [-]

07:14:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.31 = 2.79 BTC [-]

07:15:28 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> fuckitall. watched that clip, now i just wanna be in friedrich's army. what have you done mircea_popescu! <<< lmao. die kaisrin hat sich mit den franzosen alliiert, und das romiche reich gegen mich revoltiert die russen seind gefallen in preussen ein auf! lasst uns zeigen dass wir brave landeskinder sein!

07:22:36 mircea_popescu: And Grandma without joking, Said that when she was a young girl she could still drink from the Elbe, without getting sick

07:24:56 mircea_popescu: <decimation> I'm convinced that one of the reasons that pre-WWII germany spiraled out of control was because people who were able to make something of themselves had already left 50 years earlier << this is actually a pretty good theory.

07:26:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.31 = 2.79 BTC [-]

07:27:37 []bot: Bet created: "BTC over $800 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1012/

07:29:54 mircea_popescu: <decimation> granted, it's a mistake to think of that as another golden age too - there's a reason they all left Germany after all << that reason is population pressure.

07:30:06 mircea_popescu: it's one thing to leave golden age new york because you can't afford the rent

07:30:15 mircea_popescu: it's another to flee mumbai because you can no longer stand the stench.

07:31:47 mircea_popescu:

07:32:56 mircea_popescu: bah wth is it.

07:35:56 []bot: Bet created: "US Congress approval rating 15%+ in October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1013/

07:39:12 BingoBoingo: !up ColinT

07:39:36 ColinT: Thanks broingo

07:41:45 mircea_popescu: you know tab autofills.

07:42:51 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/00E8DC6.txt )

07:42:51 BingoBoingo: !b 2

07:48:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31499995 = 0.63 BTC [+] {2}

07:49:25 BingoBoingo: For anyone seeking lulzy 'Murican Libturd fail, Doomsday Preppers S03E07 ... Apparent Redditor imagining self as a raider

07:50:57 mircea_popescu: uh

07:51:11 mircea_popescu: how about http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6hu3m0s5f1qlne6uo1_500.jpg instead.

07:53:12 BingoBoingo: lol

07:53:43 BingoBoingo: No one plans for the MPquisition

07:58:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.31 = 0.93 BTC [-] {2}

07:59:54 mircea_popescu: lol DreadKnight is now reading my entire blog.

07:59:59 mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcgp9oyskX1qlne6uo1_400.jpg have some titties yo.

08:07:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.305 = 0.915 BTC [-]

08:07:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJNZwuamwj0&list=RDED5s1-Fe9FA << didn't you link the text version ?

08:07:51 assbot: Johnny Cash - Cremation of Sam McGee - YouTube

08:10:25 cazalla: ooh, nice pointy ones, don't see them much anymore

08:12:31 mircea_popescu: this is true, strangely enough.

08:12:47 mircea_popescu: it used to be half the girls, when i was 15. by now it's maybe one in ten ? twenty ?

08:13:25 cazalla: nfi, all the ones i've seen in the flesh have been round

08:14:46 cazalla: you don't see ski slope titties either, saw a lot of them in vintage porn circa 30's 40's 50's

08:14:56 mircea_popescu: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OWMJk3tWPgw/T8b-oFPpE9I/AAAAAAAABFo/qt_9TsyUZcs/s1600/Pointy%2BPuffy%2BNipples%2BSpraying%2Band%2BDripping%2BBreast%2BMilk.jpg

08:15:19 cazalla: looks like missus titties heh

08:24:39 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, you do this thing where you start linking 2 more of your previous blog posts in the middle of the one I'm reading when things are getting interesting, it's like a psychological hook

08:25:00 mircea_popescu: i'm just good at what i do.

08:25:15 DreadKnight: I see; I have a lot of blog posts stacked for later on reading

08:26:45 mircea_popescu: the problem is those probably have links too.

08:27:17 DreadKnight: yeah :D

08:27:37 DreadKnight: pyramidal scheme

08:27:40 DreadKnight: lol

08:32:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.324898 = 0.6498 BTC [+]

08:54:01 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9oK774QU4E speaking of pcp

08:54:02 assbot: PCP man - YouTube

09:16:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3247 = 0.6494 BTC [-]

09:21:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [-]

09:22:56 DreadKnight: that's not how you play frogger

09:23:42 ben_vulpes: what have i done

09:23:53 ben_vulpes: i went out for a movie with my brother and father and my mother got my wife wasted

09:30:37 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1344769/thumbs/o-SLUTWALK-CHICAGO-2013-facebook.jpg << holy shit that's risky. << what's risky about that? i was unaware that rapists or pedophiles were 'created'

09:32:10 mircea_popescu: of course they are. there's insane variance over ethnic groups and historical periods.

09:34:21 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcgp9oyskX1qlne6uo1_400.jpg have some titties yo. << nice polka dots.

09:34:33 ben_vulpes: still, what's risky?

09:35:33 ben_vulpes: anyways, babe req's spatuling into bed

09:35:37 ben_vulpes: nite

09:36:50 ben_vulpes: lol p funny how the standing-up reflex is hardwired in.

10:25:32 xmj: g'morning

10:25:44 xmj: is anyone aware of any paypal-like startup that does insurance?

10:25:52 xmj: fluffypony: BingoBoingo

10:26:34 BingoBoingo: xmj Nope

10:28:56 xmj: someone should do that.

10:29:42 xmj: incorporate on bermudas, bahamas or cayman islands, build an app, have someone set you up with int'l common law contracts...

10:29:46 xmj: it's not rocket science.

10:31:20 xmj: friendsurance.com

10:41:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1460 @ 0.00256668 = 3.7474 BTC [-] {26}

10:57:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29005 = 0.5801 BTC [-] {2}

11:02:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.289 = 1.445 BTC [-]

11:29:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 125 @ 0.01212 = 1.515 BTC [-] {5}

11:31:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 75 @ 0.01188316 = 0.8912 BTC [-] {5}

11:37:49 chetty: xmj what sort of insurance? car? house? life?

12:01:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.28900014 = 4.335 BTC [+] {2}

12:06:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2861002 = 1.4305 BTC [-] {2}

12:25:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 306 @ 0.00255001 = 0.7803 BTC [+] {2}

12:29:37 moiety: jurov: are you here?

12:36:00 ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1344769/thumbs/o-SLUTWALK-CHICAGO-2013-facebook.jpg << holy shit that's risky. /// Risky? Delusional, at least.

12:45:00 ThickAsThieves: Incel = incorrigible imbecile incidentally imprisoned in incorrect incorporeal inferences is inculpating insipidly

12:52:03 ThickAsThieves: !s bcoinnews.com

12:52:04 assbot: 25 results for 'bcoinnews.com' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bcoinnews.com

12:53:29 ThickAsThieves: Does jborkl_ even exist here anymore? I think he also goes by Hollywood?

12:53:41 ThickAsThieves: ;;seen jborkl_

12:53:41 gribble: jborkl_ was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 44 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <jborkl_> added next diff, block found by- still adding pool info have about half- finishing up live charting of btce,bitstamp and btcchina

12:53:52 ThickAsThieves: ;;seen Hollywood

12:53:52 gribble: Hollywood was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 49 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <Hollywood> I only am because it is the top post on the forum, but I don't want to read it and waste brain cells

12:54:44 ThickAsThieves: I'm wondering if the blog in question should be in teh b-a feed still.

12:55:19 ThickAsThieves: Consider that my moving to have it removed, should anyone care to second it, or however it works...

12:56:58 artifexd: What blog?

12:57:28 ThickAsThieves: bcoinnews.com

12:58:23 ThickAsThieves: if i recall he pops in here only to notify of new website mining info features

12:58:59 moiety: ;; later tell ben_vulpes re gpg video, i'm no video maker, i'm happy to voice it but i'm not confident about making the video.

12:58:59 gribble: The operation succeeded.

12:59:03 moiety: hi ThickAsThieves

12:59:13 ThickAsThieves: Hello Moiety

12:59:31 ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/6U7yuD3.png

12:59:41 ThickAsThieves: XAPO more expensive than credit

13:00:57 ThickAsThieves: http://upstart.bizjournals.com/entrepreneurs/hot-shots/2014/08/01/the-man-who-would-undo-wall-street-by-offering.html?page=all

13:00:58 assbot: Adam Krellenstein of Counterparty is working with Patrick Byrne of Overstock.com to create a bitcoin-inspired securities trading platform that could make Wall Street obsolete.

13:01:19 moiety: how are you ThickAsThieves? also, whyyy would anyone choose xapo?!

13:01:19 ThickAsThieves: nice knowin ya MPEx!

13:02:02 ThickAsThieves: i'm pretty good, coffee in hand, cat on lap, catching up on the internet

13:02:28 ThickAsThieves: you?

13:03:03 ThickAsThieves: i wonder if Overstock knows BTCT is for sale :)

13:04:37 moiety: sounds perfect :] i'm good too, been away couple days (came back to feed the cats though), feeling refreshed.cats are bouncing off the walls now im back

13:05:21 ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla:who figured out betting on 'no' works again? /// not hanbot! http://thewhet.net/2014/line-betting-on-bitbet-july-2014/

13:05:23 assbot: Line betting on BitBet, July 2014 | The Whet

13:05:53 ThickAsThieves: all those recent No resulions have little gain though

13:05:56 ThickAsThieves: the jig!

13:06:14 ThickAsThieves: sometimes we forget one of the cats in the florida porch

13:06:26 ThickAsThieves: when we remember it's all worked up and talkative

13:06:42 ThickAsThieves: probly cursing us out

13:07:05 ThickAsThieves: when we remember to let it in*

13:08:16 moiety: hahahaha grumbling away "bout bloody time" probably XD

13:08:46 moiety: kickstarter derpage: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/620439316/one-fast-cat-exercise-wheel

13:08:47 assbot: One Fast Cat - Exercise Wheel by Sean Farley — Kickstarter

13:08:57 moiety: yep, it's a hamster wheel for cats

13:09:04 moiety: one ticket off the planet please!

13:09:19 fluffypony: lol

13:09:24 fluffypony: that's retarded

13:09:37 moiety: $175 worth of retarded

13:10:19 ThickAsThieves: whoa cats really run on wheels?

13:10:28 ThickAsThieves: i'd never have guessed that one

13:11:24 ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/08/01/im-not-making-this-up-secrets-pr-head-complains-about-people-writing-horrible-things-without-accountability/

13:11:24 assbot: SERIOUSLY? Secret’s PR head complains about people writing horrible things without accountability | PandoDaily

13:11:46 ThickAsThieves: even though he makes a cute point, this Paul Carr guy makes me wanna shake a baby

13:12:08 danielpbarron: mpex.ws says "Forbidden"

13:12:48 ThickAsThieves: MPEx "We'll Go Down First"

13:13:03 BingoBoingo: $proxies

13:13:05 empyex: BingoBoingo: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

13:14:01 moiety: ThickAsThieves: i can't see many cats doing it

13:14:18 moiety: BB! hows you?

13:14:39 BingoBoingo: moiety: Not bad

13:16:31 punkman: moiety, now I'm wondering if there's a treadmill for dogs

13:16:43 punkman: yep, tons of them

13:16:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2999951 = 0.9 BTC [+]

13:17:50 punkman: http://dogtread.com/wp-content/gallery/small-treadmill/dogtread_web.jpg

13:18:34 moiety: who gets a dog to not walk it?!

13:20:59 ThickAsThieves: moiety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhNGdnuFQYM

13:20:59 assbot: Rollie, a southern three-banded armadillo, playing - YouTube

13:28:57 moiety: you canb have them as pets?! he looks really happy too!

13:29:03 *: moiety looks around flat

13:29:08 moiety: could totally fit one in here

13:34:50 ThickAsThieves: he's probly really trying to murder the pink thing

13:40:46 punkman: http://www.keylimepi.net/

13:40:46 assbot: KeyLimePi

14:15:02 chetty: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/04/woman-2?src=mp

14:15:02 assbot: The Dispute Between Radical Feminism and Transgenderism

14:27:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29879492 = 0.5976 BTC [-]

14:41:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.28252985 = 4.5205 BTC [-] {5}

14:42:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.280111 = 1.1204 BTC [-]

14:47:00 ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cf4df/twitter_appears_to_be_blocking_links_to/

14:47:00 assbot: Twitter appears to be blocking links to bitcointalk.org and other bitcoin sites : Bitcoin

14:52:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2685 = 1.3425 BTC [-]

14:54:13 chetty: bitcoin banned from twitter ?? lmao

14:54:52 chetty: I am on a forum like that, word bitcoin in a post and it goes to moderation ...

15:01:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.278 = 3.336 BTC [+]

15:03:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2735 = 0.547 BTC [-] {2}

15:18:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 46 @ 0.26650214 = 12.2591 BTC [-] {8}

15:22:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 24 @ 0.2524375 = 6.0585 BTC [-] {3}

15:23:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 318 @ 0.00259827 = 0.8262 BTC [+]

15:24:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.24906 = 1.2453 BTC [-] {2}

15:25:06 ThickAsThieves: http://www.stocktradersdaily.com/2014%20top%20of%20the%20market.pdf

15:25:55 ThickAsThieves: ugh the pdf got horrible right on the page i was reading when i linked it

15:30:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8738 @ 0.00263115 = 22.991 BTC [+] {24}

15:31:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9562 @ 0.00271969 = 26.0057 BTC [+] {20}

15:46:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 650 @ 0.00271 = 1.7615 BTC [-]

15:47:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 248 @ 0.00271 = 0.6721 BTC [-]

16:00:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 17.89381328 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1556 satoshi per share

16:03:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71467340 BTC to 12`777 shares, 13420 satoshi per share

16:06:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2595 = 0.7785 BTC [+]

16:19:59 FabianB: $mpexstatus

16:20:02 empyex: FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

16:30:01 ben_vulpes: at the bank the other day i learned that physical checks in the us are all piped through the federal reserve. i also learned that this is not true of checks deposited via phnoe.

16:37:08 ben_vulpes: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/07/this-thumbdrive-hacks-computers-badusb-exploit-makes-devices-turn-evil/ << where's ninjashogun when you need him?

16:37:09 assbot: This thumbdrive hacks computers. BadUSB exploit makes devices turn evil | Ars Technica

17:19:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.25198888 = 2.2679 BTC [-] {4}

17:31:36 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: usb demo << old hat.

17:39:45 dignork: asciilifeform: after usb potential attack vector publicity, now might be a good time to launch "usb firewall"

17:40:35 asciilifeform: dignork: what do you picture in a 'usb firewall' ?

17:41:26 dignork: asciilifeform: we discussed it before, for example usb hub which will pass through only storage device commands

17:42:01 asciilifeform: dignork: as i pointed out ages ago to ninjaspamgun, it is the responsibility of operating system to enumerate, e.g. only usb dildo on a given port, and not keyboard or whatnot

17:42:11 dignork: befire we talked about usb read-only condom

17:42:35 asciilifeform: it is a fool's errand to save people who use defective os from themselves

17:43:01 dignork: reach fool, potential :)

17:43:07 dignork: *rich

17:43:18 chetty: <asciilifeform> it is a fool's errand to save people ----from themselves

17:43:35 asciilifeform: for instance, i can exploitably crash winblows 7 using a gadget that only responds to legal mass storage std. commands.

17:43:47 asciilifeform: so what good does the filter do?

17:44:44 dignork: in the articles I've seen they cry about "evil keyboard" attack, this one is trivial to filter out

17:45:14 dignork: oh, an "evil network adapter"

17:45:23 asciilifeform: trivial on adult os

17:45:40 chetty: if someone can put on evil keyboard on my system I got lots bigger problems

17:46:15 asciilifeform: chetty: the notion was, evil keyboard disguised as whatever usb gizmo you normally buy (flash drive, mouse, etc.)

17:46:42 dignork: chetty: evil keyboard will do wonders on windows, with ctlr-esc+cmd+cr combo, not so much on other OSes

17:47:11 asciilifeform: dignork: evil network card - works best on apple box, which silently walks any network hardware it finds

17:49:55 dignork: asciilifeform: yep, so all apples are potential buyers for usb firewall :)

17:50:08 asciilifeform: dignork: or for adult os.

17:54:18 dignork: asciilifeform: it could also alert on high current draw

17:55:52 asciilifeform: dignork: your chipset+os does not alert on overcurrent ?

17:59:54 dignork: asciilifeform: didn't have a chance to verify tbh, also blinking led would be more visible than obsure message in /var/log

18:00:46 dignork: *obscure

18:55:48 ben_vulpes: "At some point, you may wish to delete private keys from a wallet.dat file but as of version v0.6.0 of Bitcoin-QT/bitcoind, there is no RPC method available for this purpose." << assholes.

18:56:31 mircea_popescu: why should there be a rpc method ?

19:03:09 ben_vulpes: because there was at one point, but now there isn't. because of the transition from text-based wallets to bdb wallets? no idea, but it looks, smells, and quacks like a regression.

19:04:11 mircea_popescu: mkay so the clustering software is being quirty wrt dropping new proxy servers.

19:04:25 mircea_popescu: if anyone's seen 403 forbidden errors from proxies i r apologize.

19:04:37 mircea_popescu: working to fix whatevr the hell this is.

19:05:43 mircea_popescu: im pretty sure you never had rpc address deletion.

19:05:54 mircea_popescu: obviously you could wipe them from text wallet easier than from the bdb flatfile thingee.

19:11:42 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski ping me when you get a moment, i have a new size for ya

19:11:42 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:13:03 artifexd: ;;ud bitcoin

19:13:04 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitcoin | Jan 5, 2011 ... bitcoin. A crypto-currency allowing for anonymous transactions and using a decentralized architecture. Go Nanotube! Nanotube was able to ...

19:13:12 artifexd: "Go Nanotube!" << lol

19:16:52 mircea_popescu: lmao!

19:17:17 mircea_popescu:  224

19:17:17 mircea_popescu:  65 too

19:17:41 mircea_popescu: that's thumbups and thumbsdown respectively ftr.

19:19:30 mircea_popescu: lol pete http://contravex.com/#footnote_2_1071 made me think "omfg when did i publish that?!?!?!"

19:19:30 assbot: Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski

19:32:48 FabianB: $mpexstatus

19:32:51 empyex: FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 1018 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

19:35:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.0025904 = 0.5181 BTC [-] {6}

19:59:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2801 @ 0.00081991 = 2.2966 BTC [-]

20:22:48 chetty: In an unusual breach of decorum, even for the divided Congress, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi chased Rep. Tom Marino across the House floor, taking offense at comments by the Pennsylvania Republican during debate on the border funding bill Friday night.

20:23:15 mircea_popescu: that old hag still has it in her to chase men ?!

20:24:17 chetty: well I dont think she was trying to get into his pants

20:25:15 mircea_popescu: what did he say anyway ?

20:25:52 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#781898 << the daily lol.

20:25:53 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

20:26:23 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know m !==== n.

20:26:26 chetty: ?You know something that I find quite interesting about the other side? Under the leadership of the former Speaker [Pelosi], and under the leadership of their former leader [Rep. Steny Hoyer], when in 2009 and 2010, they had the House, the Senate and the White House, and they knew this problem existed,? he continued. ?They didn?t have the strength to go after it back then. But now are trying to make a political issue out of it now.?

20:26:41 mircea_popescu: ;;seen jborkl

20:26:41 gribble: jborkl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 22 hours, 25 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <jborkl> answered my next question

20:26:48 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ^

20:27:05 mircea_popescu: chetty not bad.

20:27:28 mircea_popescu: so why did he run ? ridoinculous.

20:27:57 chetty: I dont think he ran, he just finished his time at the podium

20:28:35 mircea_popescu: a

20:28:54 ThickAsThieves: m !===n referring to what comment?

20:30:48 mircea_popescu: the incel thing.

20:31:02 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/6U7yuD3.png was pretty lulzy tho. who actually bothered to make the png ? reddit ?

20:31:18 ThickAsThieves: i think so

20:31:36 ThickAsThieves: i didnt bother reading the incel details much

20:31:39 ThickAsThieves: seemed like a chore

20:31:49 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: nice knowin ya MPEx! << sadly nobody counts all the already burried X of Y and Z of K that were "going to".

20:32:11 mircea_popescu: fuck, did you know Mark Karpeles of MtGox was going to make an options exchange cca 2012 ?

20:32:25 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YNV774.txt )

20:32:25 BingoBoingo: !b 2

20:32:28 ThickAsThieves: surely that would have been awesome

20:32:56 BingoBoingo: That might have killed Gox in 2012

20:32:59 mircea_popescu: all the shit people were going to over the years. god, i recall there was this start-up that was going to make something or the other obsolete.

20:32:59 decimation: insurance is one of the few financial products where you actually do have to know what you are doing

20:33:03 mircea_popescu: it was run by a coupla kids.

20:33:06 mircea_popescu: now what was it called...

20:33:25 decimation: that's the opposite of "let's run new paypal w/bitcoin ima ceo!" product

20:33:28 mircea_popescu: decimation dun get in the way of the people that read stackexchange, kid!11

20:34:03 decimation: if he wants to run a "financial service" from bermuda he exchange cash & bitcoin via mail

20:35:02 decimation: I have a friend who took all the exams to be qualified as an actuary. It took him a decade to qualify

20:47:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00082397 = 7.9101 BTC [+]

20:49:14 mircea_popescu: decimation yeah, i know a chick that did that too. she was finished by the time she was 30

20:49:36 mircea_popescu: meanwhile all her friends were senior hr managers and whatnot.

20:49:55 decimation: heh yeah. an actuary can make decent pay but it's probably not worth giving up a decade to qualify

20:50:17 ben_vulpes: same is true of legal 'profession' in the states.

20:50:28 ben_vulpes: barristers take what - 4 years after hs in argentina?

20:50:32 mircea_popescu: she was making ok pay at that point, and the senior-whatever floozies had zilch job security

20:50:34 decimation: nah lawyering is much worse, most don't even make $50k

20:50:57 mircea_popescu: however, she had absolutely no upside. whereas said floozies can always blowjob their way into a VP of Erections position,

20:51:06 mircea_popescu: which pays in options, which in a bubble is always great

20:51:32 decimation: well, that's the problem with the bezzle, it doesn't pay much to have skills, only friends

20:52:09 mircea_popescu: which, if you ever wondered why "businessmen" of the us variety seem to not mind inflation so much : they're not businessmen, they're valets. not their business. they are mostly paid on a nominal increase basis. inflation is basically a gift to them.

20:52:52 mircea_popescu: if stock is at 50 and your option is at 60 and inflation is 10% a year you're guaranteed a 10% payoff on other people's money starting sometime in year 2.

20:53:06 mircea_popescu: just for sitting down, keeping "the decorum" and wearing the right powertie.

20:53:12 decimation: meanwhile everyone is "buying" your stock every week "for retirement"

20:53:21 mircea_popescu: which, if anyone wonders why ustardian "elites" are so soft spoken, submissive and complacent...

20:55:02 decimation: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2012/11/adore-river-of-meat.html

20:55:13 decimation: "(I actually have great sympathy for the professional. In a bureaucratic oligarchy like ours, the professional both rules and is ruled. At the top, there is no one on top of him. Yet he cannot change his mind. He would simply be replaced. There are always younger, more eager professionals. Sovereignty is conserved; it is always humans who rule; and yet, it seems that no one rules. Who gets to put his hand on the wheel? He can

20:55:15 decimation: stand there, and look like a captain. Chicks dig it. And yes, sir, it sure does pay.)"

20:59:37 chetty: excellent point, in the bureaucracy no one actually runs anything, its a self licking ice cream cone

21:01:18 mircea_popescu: BUT LOOK HOW RICH WE ARE!

21:01:29 mircea_popescu: maybe, if nobody knows what rich means.

21:02:35 decimation: but those who are posing at the captain's wheel know the truth on the inside

21:06:05 mircea_popescu: well i hope they don't read much fraudsters then

21:06:08 mircea_popescu: it may cause them.

21:14:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00082397 = 8.2809 BTC [+]

21:15:09 mircea_popescu: o look at that, thanks to mod6 eulora is actually picking up an artist.

21:26:36 Duffer1: do they have an online portfolio?

21:27:12 mircea_popescu: we've been going over it in #eulora

21:28:02 Duffer1: no such chan on freenode?

21:28:30 mircea_popescu: uh ?

21:28:43 mircea_popescu: * Now talking on #eulora

21:28:43 mircea_popescu: * Topic for #eulora is: [Talk about all things Eulora! Wiki:http://www.eulorum.org/Eulora Looking for a job ? Try http://fraudsters.com/2014/smg-april-2014-statement/]

21:28:44 assbot: Page not found pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

21:28:53 mircea_popescu: lolwut!

21:28:58 mircea_popescu: oh stupid bracket.

21:29:02 Duffer1: i'm smrat

21:29:05 Duffer1: don't ask lol..

21:29:21 mircea_popescu: lol

21:37:05 Namworld: Oh it's that advanced already? Looks good. Player seems to lack a bit of skin tho =P

21:37:29 mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mba1815Msn1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << check that out, same shoulder height, different butt height.

21:38:11 mircea_popescu: Namworld funny, that's exactly what we're working on.

21:47:21 mthreat: mircea_popescu: there you are. I found the perfect gift for you: http://www.firebox.com/product/6086/UNT-Mug

21:47:22 assbot: UNT Mug - buy at Firebox.com

21:47:37 mthreat: it has your favorite word!

21:47:51 mircea_popescu: lmao

21:47:54 mircea_popescu: where is it ?

21:48:08 mthreat: where is what, the mug?

21:48:18 mircea_popescu: yes.

21:48:18 mthreat: it's online, probably impossible to import to argentina

21:48:29 mthreat: although they claim they ship to argentina

21:48:33 mircea_popescu: so you're trying to say i can't get cunt ?

21:48:37 mthreat: well...

21:48:48 mircea_popescu: fuck it, looks like it's the size of a bucket anyway.

21:48:54 mthreat: in reality, it is for UNT people (University of North Texas)

21:49:08 mthreat: who apparently had a radio station KUNT

21:52:12 chetty: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuBv9LWIIAIi9Jt.jpg

22:04:59 ben_vulpes: it's only 16oz

22:05:10 ben_vulpes: just the right amount of coffee imho

22:05:15 *: ben_vulpes puts another pot on

22:05:32 ben_vulpes: oh man portland roasting was having a sale today - 6.99 USD/lb

22:05:38 ben_vulpes: i think i got like 6 pounds

22:05:52 ben_vulpes: beautiful lightly roasted portland coffee...

22:10:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00081991 = 8.855 BTC [-]

22:12:27 mthreat: Blaxican - https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10469406_800022740031072_8805321346579588647_n.jpg

22:13:19 ben_vulpes: wuuuuuuuut

22:18:04 mircea_popescu: lmao

22:18:16 fluffypony: mthreat: that is awesome

23:36:15 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1006/ Odds: 32(Y):68(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.467 BTC. Current weight: 90,619.

23:39:01 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell DreadKnight btw #eulora is prolly relevant to your interests.

23:39:01 gribble: The operation succeeded.