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Transcript for 02-10-2013, 772 lines:

00:10:00 kakobrekla: i think kraken killer is commin

00:10:10 kakobrekla: inside info winkwink

00:57:21 thestringpuller: ;;tslb

01:05:28 thestringpuller: (14 + 27) * 15

01:05:32 thestringpuller: ;;calc (14 + 27) * 15

01:06:46 thestringpuller: ;;calc (14 + 14) * 15

01:31:17 jborkl: Mircea - you here?

02:01:26 thestringpuller: NOEBEE is a scam

02:01:31 thestringpuller: sell your xbond guys

02:01:46 DiabloD3: everything is a scam

02:01:48 DiabloD3: sell your everything

02:01:59 thestringpuller: dmc lololol

02:02:02 thestringpuller: jkjkjkjk

02:02:16 DiabloD3: yes, please sell your DMC

02:02:21 DiabloD3: get out while you can

02:08:37 kakobrekla: josh got bitslaped

02:08:39 kakobrekla: quoting:

02:08:41 kakobrekla: I said I estimated it would be finished by September. We are close and will probably miss that estimation by... TWO WEEKS! Or so...

02:08:41 kakobrekla: In either case, kudos to KnC for getting it done. We'll see how it shapes up here on out. Please keep in mind that BFL has shipped more ASIC units than all other vendors combined, several times over and we are still shipping. Sure there's lots of things we could have done better, but it was a learning process and we were the first to move in this direction. It's much easier to follow than to lead, at least you can learn from the mistakes o

02:09:51 kakobrekla: i wrote bitslaped?? i ment bitch slaped

02:10:00 kakobrekla: too much bitcoin not enough bitch.

02:10:16 kakobrekla: bad for your mental health

02:10:49 KRS1: Welcome, mircea_popescu.

02:11:09 mircea_popescu: those two lines...

02:21:53 kakobrekla: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/23/pussy-riot-hunger-strike-nadezhda-tolokonnikova

02:22:04 ozbot: Pussy Riot's Nadezhda Tolokonnikova: Why I have gone on hunger strike | Music | theguardian.com

02:22:14 mircea_popescu: what, still ?

02:22:35 kakobrekla: aparently ended a few hrs ago

02:22:45 mircea_popescu: she spends half the year on hunger strike because if she deosn't she gets fat and if she's fat da police no longer want to grab her tits.

02:22:45 kakobrekla: i was unaware of this completley

03:11:57 mircea_popescu: "Your articles are definitely worth it, great stuff. I get a lot out of your writing." << testimonials.

04:33:04 MilkyLep: .d

04:33:05 ozbot: 148819199.80509 | Next Diff in 872 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.2847% in 4d 19h 50m 12s

05:23:30 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQsgwt8Rk1I

05:23:31 ozbot: Enforcing Claims: How to Get Your A4V to Work 100% of the Time - YouTube

05:23:38 mircea_popescu: almost as funny as the forum securities.

05:28:15 VanCleef: its about to get funnier again

06:15:10 Vexual: .news

06:36:33 Vexual: emp resistant vibrator failure sets tongues wagging

13:30:21 VanCleef: must be some really low divs coming up if they're giving a update before divs

13:37:54 mircea_popescu: http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Iran-Dishes-1.jpg

13:38:44 kleeck: ^ Is that art?

13:38:46 pankkake: those look like bar tables

13:43:28 KRS1: what are those zany Iranians up to now..

13:44:23 VanCleef: reopening us government?

13:45:10 mircea_popescu: yea first i thought o look, beardy faggot on a tank in a french cafe

13:48:59 kakobrekla: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aG9jO57_460s.jpg

13:49:19 Rulother: ^

13:50:00 mircea_popescu: that looks like a scam link

13:50:31 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/

13:50:32 ozbot: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

13:51:03 kakobrekla: long, do you have a pic to summarize it

14:00:05 thestringpuller: "i woke up this morning like fuck da world" - Jeezy

14:00:10 thestringpuller: Mr. Popescu

14:00:32 thestringpuller: I'm going by the rap moniker lil' pescu

14:00:38 thestringpuller: do I have to pay you royalties?

14:01:07 VanCleef: naaaaas

14:04:27 thestringpuller: suhweet, 'lil 'pescu in da house yo!

14:09:38 Rulother: bah dumb tablet

14:21:55 dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nkoju/bitcoin_core_dev_websites_do_not_need_passwords/

14:21:57 ozbot: Bitcoin core dev: websites do not need passwords : Bitcoin

14:25:52 mircea_popescu: herp. how can this dood be such an asshole ?

14:26:07 mircea_popescu: mpex has been using the *superior* gpg signature method for two years now.

14:26:36 mircea_popescu: all he has to say is "please use our braindamaged reimplementation" ? no mention of anything, just like that, idiot garzik has invented the world.

14:26:39 mircea_popescu: fucking outrageous.

14:27:25 dexX7: hehe yes

14:27:30 dexX7: that's why i'm posting this

14:33:03 mircea_popescu: last i looked at it it was still broken, because god forbid they actually specify anything.

15:01:53 jurov: would be nice to have GPG-based bitcoin wallet

15:02:11 jurov: prolly needs cryptographer to decide how best to conver RSA/DSA privkey to bitcoin 256bit one

15:04:52 jurov: or, better, to be used as seed for electrum,to get a seed for deterministic keys

15:04:55 kakobrekla: seems a hater discovered bash

15:05:20 jurov: kakobrekla what?

15:05:49 kakobrekla: everything got downvoted to the ground

15:05:56 kakobrekla: lol

15:09:29 mircea_popescu: jurov or better, make the bicoin key 16 bits.

15:09:43 mircea_popescu: which should be enough for everyone.

15:13:50 jurov: and, if they absolutely strive improve over gpg, need to better protect input/output from copy/paste/encoding mishaps

15:14:12 mircea_popescu: except they don't strive to improve over gpg.

15:14:29 mircea_popescu: much in the style of bitcoin retardation, they strive to half implement the half of a good solution they understood,

15:14:42 mircea_popescu: and then pretend as if this braindamaged mess is due some credit or recognition or something.

15:15:16 mircea_popescu: i'd absolutely love to see someone improve on gpg.

15:35:15 pizzaman1337: has SR really been seized? http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/silkroadseize.png

15:36:09 pizzaman1337: http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf

15:36:18 kakobrekla: i think this is because of govt shutdown

15:36:53 dexX7: wtf

15:37:10 dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nl41m/hidden_site_has_been_seized_image_appearing_when/

15:37:10 ozbot: Hidden site has been seized image appearing when accessing SR - Is this a joke? : SilkRoad

15:37:34 dexX7: "It's a joke because the government went down yet all of these agencies are still functioning. It's a stab at our government"

15:42:08 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lmao

15:42:21 mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 what "site" ?

15:44:03 dexX7: sr = silkroad

15:44:46 pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: silkroad. http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/

15:45:30 mircea_popescu: my point was just that it's not really a "site"

15:45:39 mircea_popescu: they seized what, the onion address ?!

15:45:50 mircea_popescu: normally these seizures refer to domain names.

15:46:19 Apocalyptic: like Biggy said, FBI runs all the tor nodes

15:46:41 pizzaman1337: I guess we'll find out if he had a backup plan.

15:46:42 zoinky: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/02/crime-silkroad-raid-idUSL1N0HS12C20131002

15:46:43 ozbot: FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner

15:47:27 dexX7: woah

15:47:29 kakobrekla: wait the guy was in the states?

15:47:29 jurov: just leafing through that, pdf, page 21:

15:47:34 kakobrekla: is he like insane?

15:47:51 jurov: "DPR solicited a murder for hire of a certain Silk Road user"

15:48:02 mircea_popescu: so it ends then huh.

15:48:11 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla not everyone can be in somaliah

15:48:20 kakobrekla: :p

15:48:49 mircea_popescu: Ross William Ulbricht

15:48:52 mircea_popescu: not a bad name.

15:49:22 mircea_popescu: $3.6M in BTC seized

15:49:35 mircea_popescu: hah! i recall arguing with people in 2012 about how silkroad isn't really all that big.

15:49:45 mircea_popescu: i guess i was right and them people were wrong huh.

15:51:30 pizzaman1337: page 6, "All told, the site has generated sales revenue totaling over 9.5 million Bitcoins and collected comissions from these sales totaling over 600,000 Bitcoins"

15:52:54 mircea_popescu: and yet mysteriously all it had was 30k.

15:53:20 mircea_popescu: this is where bogus da claims meet bogus crowdthinking expectations. facts are on the other side of the river.

15:56:01 kakobrekla: "Prices of hash on the street surges with Silk Road shutting down!"

15:56:22 kakobrekla: err i mean getting busted.

16:06:31 pizzaman1337: DPR: "Not long ago, I had a clean hit done for $80k" ...

16:09:19 zoinky: where do you see this quote

16:09:24 mircea_popescu: dude, if they start arresting all the kids claiming they're gangsta on the internets...

16:09:32 mircea_popescu: reddit will be tumbleweed city.

16:09:57 pizzaman1337: zoinky: page 23 of the pdf link, point m

16:10:40 zoinky: thanks

16:11:01 San1ty-Work: AM pew pew

16:11:08 San1ty-Work: almost below 1 @ havelock

16:11:40 kakobrekla: apparently btc selleoff has started

16:11:58 San1ty-Work: btc selloff?

16:12:05 kakobrekla: ;;ticker

16:12:25 San1ty-Work: oh it's a gox ticker

16:12:37 San1ty-Work: what about something relevant, bitstamp?

16:13:23 San1ty-Work: 2 btc lower then the high today I think

16:19:27 pizzaman1337: this doc is really interesting to me, they even looked at his stackoverflow posts and found the code he posted there in the site's source

16:20:07 mircea_popescu: lol judging by the pdf the stuff on sale on sr wasn't really pure

16:20:23 mircea_popescu: everything's a "mixture containing detectable amts"

16:25:53 San1ty-Work: ow yeah

16:25:58 San1ty-Work: btc flash crash incomming

16:26:24 San1ty-Work: just read the post about silk road

16:26:31 San1ty-Work: get your buying engines ready

16:29:11 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

16:29:26 mircea_popescu: i guess this will be confirmation #2 i was right about sr's relative irrelevance :

16:29:29 mircea_popescu: no particular crash.

16:29:47 mircea_popescu: buttcoins will end up known as popescu's 100.

16:30:43 kakobrekla: that brings up a question, was atlantis a pure scam, did they get tipped off or just pussies or something else

16:31:14 TomServo: or a honeypot used to correlate sellers?

16:31:22 mircea_popescu: who knows these things.

16:31:25 mjoiii: Timing of Atlantis bailing seems really odd now

16:31:30 mircea_popescu: o looky, the feds declare they made over 100 purchases.

16:31:33 mircea_popescu: party in da bronx

16:31:41 kakobrekla: lol

16:33:28 TAT_Investments: possible hoax?

16:33:43 dexX7: 39 pages document doesn't look like a hoax

16:33:56 TAT_Investments: oh they provided the filing?

16:34:04 dexX7: http://krebsonsecurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf

16:34:26 TAT_Investments: thx

16:34:50 dexX7: https://mega.co.nz/#!pwkGkZDL!cNRLVQcm4CIuBIEimxkPLUfTZU9qs1wefSVWFICc66I mirror, if this one is too slow

16:34:50 mircea_popescu: TAT_Investments it's legit.

16:34:51 dexX7: np :)

16:34:51 ozbot: MEGA

16:35:13 mircea_popescu: also, bitcoin is "not in itself illegal and is known to have legitimate uses".

16:35:37 mircea_popescu: this would be nice if it didn't use the exact same verbiage as used to describe tor, the honeypot network.

16:35:45 dexX7: but.. but.. "it's _designed_ for anonymous transactions"

16:36:12 pizzaman1337: look at paragraph 22, they talk about how they "located a number of computer servers, ... associated with the operation of Silk Road". So, Tor = owned

16:37:41 mircea_popescu: this is a well known fact.

16:37:59 mircea_popescu: course internet ppls were bitching at me about tor coupla months back or w/e.

16:38:04 mircea_popescu: but they were wrong!

16:41:37 pizzaman1337: so what will the feds do with that BTC?

16:41:55 Apocalyptic: pizzaman1337, wipe the wallet ?

16:42:21 pizzaman1337: so BTC are "destroyed"?

16:42:24 Troic: donate them to the EFF

16:42:39 mircea_popescu: jack shit they can do, pretty much.

16:42:43 Apocalyptic: pizzaman1337, these will be yeah i think

16:42:54 Apocalyptic: like they would give a shit about them...

16:43:27 mircea_popescu: this is going to be a pretty sad case once the da realises that he's going to be prosecuting an alleged 1bn+ criminal entreprise with exactly 0 confiscations.

16:43:28 pizzaman1337: “When you interviewed [Ulbricht], he said he would never be arrested. But you can’t resist the FBI. We will find you.” dun dun dunnn...

16:44:39 pizzaman1337: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/02/end-of-the-silk-road-fbi-busts-the-webs-biggest-anonymous-drug-black-market/

16:44:40 ozbot: End Of The Silk Road: FBI Busts The Web's Biggest Anonymous Drug Black Market - Forbes

16:44:48 TAT_Investments: ;;ticker

16:45:16 kakobrekla: like busting napster prolly.

16:45:49 TAT_Investments: bitcoin - perpetual drama machine

16:46:17 mircea_popescu: anyway. great thing honestly. i kinda liked the guy's ethos, but meh. had enough of junktards and their btc=pills bs.

16:46:40 mircea_popescu: maybe it now gets through skulls that sr was not particularly relevant.

16:48:03 dexX7: fuck it

16:48:15 dexX7: the gox ticker looks strange

16:48:25 jcpham: dump

16:49:06 dexX7: http://i.imgur.com/BQiW242.png

16:50:08 thestringpuller: thats depressing

16:50:47 dexX7: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rossulbricht

16:50:48 ozbot: Ross Ulbricht | LinkedIn

16:50:52 thestringpuller: they come from the mpie next

16:50:57 thestringpuller: mpoe*

16:52:10 mircea_popescu: haha this is precious

16:52:36 mircea_popescu: lmao, 150k or 300k ? 80k!!1

16:52:42 mircea_popescu: haggle of death!

16:53:27 mircea_popescu: ;;google unintentionally entertain

16:55:11 Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, kid is serious heh

16:59:44 VanCleef: i think its bad luck to have pirate in your name

17:00:00 zoinky: lol

17:06:10 mircea_popescu: lol

17:06:32 mircea_popescu: pirate specifically or p's in general ?

17:07:51 fractal: SR pwned

17:08:03 fractal: DPR used his real name and email on the forums in a post a long time ago

17:08:07 fractal: got pwned

17:08:15 fractal: wow

17:18:13 mircea_popescu: <fractal> DPR used his real name and email on the forums in a post a long time ago < >

17:18:15 mircea_popescu: ?

17:18:46 dexX7: paragraph 37+38

17:18:56 virtuals_mr: ;;ticker

17:19:04 dexX7: is there any theymos pitchfork thread already?

17:19:25 dexX7: for not keeping btctalks userdata safe? xD

17:20:36 mircea_popescu: tbh i doubt it.

17:20:37 mjr_: damn guys

17:20:41 mjr_: this shit is crazy

17:21:12 mjr_: $25 spread between bitstamp and gox

17:21:34 jcpham: down she goes

17:21:35 saulimus: yep

17:21:41 jcpham: gox is money desperate to get out

17:22:53 dexX7: boom

17:23:06 dexX7: ;;ticker

17:23:18 dexX7: hm delayed

17:23:38 dexX7: bs at 102, gox 125

17:24:27 Namworld: ;;ticker

17:24:28 fractal: BTC crashing

17:24:31 fractal: CRASHING

17:24:32 Namworld: yup

17:25:17 kakobrekla: ;;ticker

17:25:33 dexX7: actm selloff at bf

17:29:56 frb: this is insanity lmao

17:30:03 frb: a sell at 122 and a buy at 125 within 2 seconds

17:32:37 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain-part-2/

17:32:38 ozbot: Law enforcement never fails to unintentionally entertain, part 2 pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Pope

17:32:44 mircea_popescu: and nao we can put this sr drama behind us.

17:34:24 dexX7: mircea_popescu: previous installment of this article -> "page not found"

17:35:07 mircea_popescu: fxed ty

17:35:12 kakobrekla: also log link is erroneous

17:35:41 mircea_popescu: omg

17:36:40 mircea_popescu: aha better nao ty.

17:38:56 thestringpuller: lol

17:39:44 thestringpuller: good night silk road

17:40:46 dexX7: i'm wondering.. everywhere on sr they adviced to encrypt every pm etc., but the complaint often refers to the content of pms, even from dpr

17:41:05 Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: you are lucky I couldn't get my coinz out of JD in time to get puts....

17:41:24 mircea_popescu: o hey, when did you get out.

17:42:16 Bugpowder: hah ha

17:42:19 mircea_popescu: :p

17:43:43 Bugpowder: argh. the puts were looking so juicy when I saw the first tweet. Doog is sleeping still..

17:44:19 dexX7: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg3282397#msg3282397 did you see this?

17:44:20 taub: rip bitcoin

17:44:20 ozbot: Just-Dice.com : Invest in 1% House Edge Dice Game

17:44:23 taub: if ucking bought on mtgox

17:44:25 taub: on the high

17:44:28 dexX7: i didn't read further because the sr stuff popped up

17:44:31 taub: well at least only like 30% of my capital

17:44:32 taub: but still

17:44:43 taub: and i missed the big shorting opportunity because i was too busy fapping

17:45:40 Rulother: the things I walk in on

17:47:26 taub: http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1380736028484.png

17:50:47 fractal_: crashing. we're going to $20

17:51:17 Bugpowder: oh shit Doog

17:51:21 Bugpowder: fuck an a

17:51:25 Bugpowder: it was inevitable

17:52:26 mircea_popescu: lol all you ppl and your panicy inclinations.

17:52:27 phish: how much is SR propping up this market lol

17:53:14 TAT_Investments: Sell all the things!

17:53:19 ystarnaud_: lol

17:55:14 Bugpowder: So the mechs thing was a hoax or waht?

17:55:58 andrew12: mechs is DPR

17:55:59 ystarnaud_: i dont know how much SR really props but i wouldnt be surprised if this wasnt just an excuse to help spark panic selling

17:55:59 andrew12: confirmed

17:56:26 TAT_Investments: yeah people havent had an excuse to panic sell in a while, most of these people will buy back

17:56:31 TAT_Investments: reverse gem

17:56:35 ystarnaud_: yep

17:58:08 Namworld: ;;ticker

17:58:32 kleeck: This is bonkers! lol.

17:58:37 ystarnaud_: oh man just noticed AM down to 0.96... soon back down to what I paid in lol fun times

17:58:58 Namworld: This is crashing faster than in April

17:59:13 lewicki: it's oversold, it really doesnt make sense

17:59:28 Apocalyptic: yeah Namworld

17:59:29 saulimus: it's for a fundamental reason

17:59:32 bgupta: yeah, exchanges are more robust and can deal with the volume.

17:59:37 saulimus: not a technical one

18:00:44 Apocalyptic: bgupta, bitstamp's engine is lagging as hell...

18:00:48 Apocalyptic: bids higher than asks

18:01:02 jcpham: http://hover.ie/

18:01:45 lewicki: price is turning

18:02:16 kakobrekla: dont call it an engine if its two cans and a string

18:02:20 mircea_popescu: lol

18:02:22 mircea_popescu: the cangine ?

18:02:54 kakobrekla: mebbe

18:03:57 imsaguy: with USD/BTC price falling, most of the 'assets' should be climbing

18:04:11 saulimus: why?

18:04:22 fractal_: levelling out at 85

18:04:28 imsaguy: for example: that rental place sells houses

18:04:29 imsaguy: in USD

18:04:33 imsaguy: it gets rent, in USD

18:04:43 mircea_popescu: imsaguy yeah, and that's typical.

18:04:46 imsaguy: so when you convert the USD to BTC, its more BTC

18:04:55 imsaguy: divs should go up

18:05:04 lewicki: 121

18:05:05 imsaguy: asset price should be climbing

18:05:06 lewicki: haha

18:05:17 imsaguy: but they won't

18:05:24 dexX7: aka share prices are pegged to usd instead of btc (which i don't think is true)

18:05:25 TAT_Investments: litecoin proves useless once again

18:05:38 imsaguy: dexX7: because most investors are stupid

18:05:46 bgupta: imsaguy: Wll when btc crashes, it means folks are scrambling to get into fiat. so they sell b-a to get into btc to convert into fiat.

18:05:57 ystarnaud_: yeah the recent LTC manipulation really fucked this up

18:06:11 imsaguy: ltc is still a thing?

18:06:23 mircea_popescu: arguably.

18:06:29 ystarnaud_: lol

18:06:30 imsaguy: is nmc still a thing?

18:07:09 Apocalyptic: yes

18:07:41 imsaguy: just remember kids: don't buy fake ids. it ruins your million dollar enterprise.

18:07:46 imsaguy: well, and don't sell murder.

18:07:55 imsaguy: that's just stupid.

18:23:08 bitesak: hello

18:23:23 kakobrekla: hello there

18:24:38 bitesak: I was on my coinbr account and am not seeing any available prices despite seeing a live orderbook on mpex.co which has not happened to me before. Curious if any comments available?

18:25:00 kakobrekla: ping jurov

18:27:00 bitesak: thanks, just did. he seems away

18:27:44 mircea_popescu: lmao that was all ? bacxk to 110 or w/e ?

18:27:49 mircea_popescu: oh but allow me to rub in in!

18:28:33 bitesak: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/ is a nice addition :)

18:28:33 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets bash

18:29:42 bitesak: wanted to add some mpoe shares..

18:30:44 mircea_popescu: bitesak im sure jurov will sort you out asap.

18:32:37 jurov: bitesak, i hear you...lemme see

18:32:45 bitesak: a few months ago he sorted me out in a few minutes, so I am inclined to expect the same indeed

18:33:21 kakobrekla: bitesak apparently it made some people mad cause and they ragevoted

18:33:35 kakobrekla: -and or -cause

18:40:35 bitesak: mircmircea_popescu thanks. On another note, curious if you get solicitations/requests for new listings on mpex.co that are turned down or you just don't get any all together?

18:42:40 mircea_popescu: i get plenty, but very few that are workable.

18:44:26 dexX7: http://www.businessinsider.com/they-are-watching-bitcoin-users-are-freaking-out-about-the-arrest-of-the-alleged-founder-of-silk-road-2013-10

18:44:26 ozbot: 'THEY ARE WATCHING': Bitcoin Users Are Freaking Out About The Arrest Of The Alleged Founder Of Silk

18:45:17 mircea_popescu: lol.

18:45:33 bitesak: decisions made in panic rarely work out as hoped

18:45:40 mircea_popescu: the media. "o huge news". nobody cares. " omg the people are fereaking out because of our huge news". derp.

18:45:44 TAT_Investments: some crash that was

18:46:02 mircea_popescu: TAT_Investments it went to 20!!1

18:46:07 Azelphur: I do admit I was a bit terrified since I'm sitting on 100 BTC

18:46:12 jcpham: the forum pitchforks

18:46:15 Azelphur: but, looks like it all went ok, seems to be normalising at 110 now?

18:46:16 jcpham: oh how i love it

18:46:25 TAT_Investments: I called both bottoms like a champ :)

18:47:35 jcpham: so BI just links to questionable forum posts now and reddit threads and that is considered vetted sources

18:47:46 mircea_popescu: Azelphur if it makes you feel any better i sit on more.

18:47:48 mircea_popescu: jcpham yes.

18:47:59 Azelphur: mircea_popescu: I bet :)

18:48:04 jcpham: standard operating procedure i see

18:48:11 jcpham: just type it up and click publish

18:49:27 bitesak: mtgoy and bitstamp nearly have the same price !

18:49:38 TAT_Investments: lol at them quoting VolcanicEruptor

18:49:52 kakobrekla: watch out if stamp crosses gox

18:49:57 TAT_Investments: isnt he like a Labcoin/ActM investor?

18:50:02 Scrat: bitesak: lol best typo ever

18:50:04 Scrat: "mtgoy"

18:50:23 mircea_popescu: lmao

18:50:29 jcpham: yes, by all means, let's quote activemining and labcoin investors

18:50:35 jcpham: this is good judgement

18:50:44 mircea_popescu: im sorry i don't have an exchange and im not jewish, for else i'd be using it.

18:51:01 mircea_popescu: jcpham what judgement. it's body idour or w/e bi stands for.

18:51:39 bitesak: i'm in this webirc chat and have "done" covering my first word. Now I know why

18:51:54 jcpham: http://imgur.com/quEjWDh

18:51:57 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

18:52:27 dexX7: lol

18:52:38 mircea_popescu: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/10/02/silk-road-closure-not-unexpected/

18:52:39 ozbot: Silk Road Closure: Not Unexpected | Bingo Blog

18:54:05 mircea_popescu: given the extreme levels of retardation displayed in that complaint, the notion is starting to form that what if they got the wrong guy as part of the largest trollexperiment 4chan ever created.

18:54:16 jurov: bitesak: coinbr is down, sorry, will be up in 2 minutes

18:55:06 pankkake: so coinbr was hosted on silk road's server

18:55:08 pankkake: interesting

18:55:15 kakobrekla: lol

18:55:50 dexX7: mircea_popescu: are you serious?

18:56:08 fractal_: if you read the complaint, its obvious that its him.

18:56:12 fractal_: logic.

18:56:40 mircea_popescu: dexX7 yes.

18:57:14 mircea_popescu: fractal_ based on the agent's training and experience, it's shocking to discover no murder took place in canada contrary to some internet dorks said on the web.

18:57:35 kakobrekla: but that leaves only 2 options, sr is the gov and is shutdown for that reason or he is a part of the joke

18:57:39 kakobrekla: which is more unlikley

18:58:10 dexX7: uh oh

18:58:11 fractal_: the hit was FAKE.... the blackmailer was the hitman....

18:58:12 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i suppose the only way to further humiliate the govt after having run sr for two years, is to bring it back online monday with a "haha only kidding"

18:58:16 jurov: pankkake: lol

18:58:18 dexX7: today is the 10th birthday of 4chan

18:58:19 mircea_popescu: fractal_ duh.

18:58:27 TAT_Investments: <kakobrekla> but that leaves only 2 options, sr is the gov and is shutdown <<< i like this theory, NASA website is down at same time, coincidence?!

18:58:48 mircea_popescu: mind you, i'm not proposing this is a fact or anything. just... it gets you thinking.

18:58:51 kakobrekla: yeah all these gov sites are down

18:58:55 mircea_popescu: i've never seen agents this stupid. not even in america.

18:59:28 pankkake: I doubt it will come back. remember Atlantis? They probably tried the same things

18:59:38 pankkake: but the atlantis guy was smarter

18:59:57 mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone sane would use it if it came back anyway.

18:59:59 bitesak: jurox: okidoki, thanks for the notice

19:00:03 fractal_: Regarding the 'hit'... it doesnt make sense... DPR asks the blackmailers creditors to 'off him' ? obviously the hitman == the blackmailer.

19:00:04 mjr_: yeah

19:00:06 mircea_popescu: then again... not that many sane people in bitcoin. or on drugs.

19:00:08 bitesak: jurov: thanks !!

19:00:11 TAT_Investments: is BMR still going?

19:00:13 mjr_: i think it is time for the clones to enter

19:00:21 pankkake: TAT_Investments: yes

19:00:23 mircea_popescu: mjr_ how's panama

19:00:26 mjr_: great

19:00:31 mjr_: loving it so far

19:00:35 mircea_popescu: i thought they had your banks shut down for a week or w/e

19:00:37 mjr_: started our first satoshi square down here

19:00:37 pankkake: and "sheep market"

19:00:43 mjr_: not that i have seen

19:00:57 mjr_: i went to an atm to try and get a pic of the bank holiday

19:01:00 mjr_: but it gave me money

19:01:21 mjr_: in fact, i walked with someone who withdrew $1000 in order to buy bitcoin

19:01:59 mircea_popescu: oddness.

19:03:45 mjr_: yep, very odd

19:04:39 jurov: bitesak: we're back, with price display

19:05:57 mircea_popescu: did that just sell for .05 ?!

19:05:58 jurov: no help for silk road, tho... i had to cut it away when feds came

19:06:21 bitesak: jurov: indeed !!, thank you for your tip top service

19:06:34 TAT_Investments: ;;ticker

19:06:37 TAT_Investments: ;;nethash

19:06:44 TAT_Investments: ;;bcstats

19:06:57 mjr_: not even sure if this will register on the 24 hour

19:12:43 Rick__: mp,are you there?

19:13:13 Rick__: I still cant use my key~~~~

19:13:37 dexX7: mircea_popescu *ping*

19:14:29 mircea_popescu: sup

19:14:48 mircea_popescu: what's it say ?

19:15:43 Rick__: Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first

19:15:51 mircea_popescu: are you using the new mpex key ?

19:16:13 Rick__: I think so

19:16:44 Rick__: when did you start the new key?

19:16:46 mircea_popescu: use the !mp command for a stat to see.

19:16:50 mircea_popescu: do you know how to do that ?

19:17:13 Rick__: nope have no idea

19:17:18 Rick__: teach me

19:18:39 mircea_popescu: you sign a STAT, then encrypt it as normal, then go to http://dpaste.com/ and paste it in there

19:18:47 mircea_popescu: then you go !mp http://dpaste.com/somecode

19:20:20 Rick__: then you go !mp http://dpaste.com/somecode

19:20:27 Rick__: what is this mean

19:21:10 mircea_popescu: !mp http://dpaste.com/somecode

19:21:49 Rick__: I paste it in there,then i do what?

19:21:55 Rick__: what should i press

19:22:57 dexX7: "paste it"

19:22:59 dexX7: then copy the url

19:23:00 mircea_popescu: copy the url

19:23:36 Rick__: okay did that

19:23:40 Rick__: then?

19:23:49 mircea_popescu: !mp <url>

19:24:12 mjr_: best title for the post on reddit

19:24:21 mjr_: napster is down - this is the END of illegal file sharing

19:24:22 Rick__: !mp http://dpaste.com/1403877/

19:24:37 dexX7: lol mjr_

19:24:40 Rick__: Unrecognized signature. Please email your public key first.

19:24:42 Rick__: still

19:25:02 mircea_popescu: you are using the old mpex key. please update to the new one.

19:25:12 Rick__: I used the mpex key created at 2013 02 11

19:25:30 Rick__: where is the new one?

19:25:34 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/mpex-status-report/

19:25:35 ozbot: MPEx - Status Report pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:25:37 mircea_popescu: part II

19:26:04 kakobrekla: evil mp makes you pay a credit for new key

19:26:31 mircea_popescu: lol. gotta make ends meet

19:26:33 mircea_popescu: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x2EE93869A57D509A

19:26:33 ozbot: Search results for '0x2ee93869a57d509a'

19:26:47 kakobrekla: just trollin

19:29:25 KRS1: where does one get those complimentary mpex keys

19:32:22 dexX7: ;;goxlag

19:32:40 jurov: KRS1, ask mircea. but they don't support withdrawals

19:33:36 mircea_popescu: KRS1 they're for sale on sr.

19:39:36 KRS1: haha

19:41:55 lewicki: sub .0002

19:43:04 dexX7: this seems so fueled/manufactured again.. the reddit "summary threads" are super loaded/exaggerated and made by day 1 posters with names like "sr_downfall".. then: lags, bad gateways and timeouts on bitcoin related websites.. and of course right before everything explodes: http://imgur.com/rC34KDS

19:43:09 taub: Advertised Silk Road days after it.s launch on drug forums and bitcointalk.org with the username .altoid.. 8 months later he used this username looking for developers and included his personal email (rossulbricht@gmail.com) in the message.

19:43:13 taub: Using records from a seized webserver, the FBI agent subpoena.d his way back through a private VPN server to an IP address at a coffee shop on Laguna street in San Francisco. This happened to be 500 feet away from the house of one on Ross Ulbricht.s friends.

19:43:15 pankkake: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13860995

19:43:16 ozbot: anonymous market online? - Science and Technology - Shroomery Message Board

19:43:17 taub: US Customs intercepted a package containing 9 pieces of counterfeit id. All 9 had photos of Ross Ulbricht with different names.

19:43:20 taub: Ulbricht posted on Stack Overflow using his real name, asking .How can I connect to a Tor hidden service using curl in php?.. One minute later he changed his username to .frosty., but a subpoena shows the original name.

19:43:24 taub: wow this guy was a pro

19:43:53 mircea_popescu: dexX7 meanwhile over at bitbet, the potheads hope :

19:43:54 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/542/the-fbi-were-had/

19:43:57 pankkake: well the good news is that someone with the technical ability can replace him

19:44:04 ozbot: BitBet - The FBI were had.

19:44:37 pankkake: that is fast, that bet must be an inside job

19:44:43 mircea_popescu: anyway, you can tell the wanna-be speculators that mp hath spoken, and their hopes were thereby crushed.

19:45:01 dexX7: mircea_popescu: awesome bet

19:45:09 dexX7: but somewhat too specific

19:45:37 pankkake: and it's Dread

19:46:09 mircea_popescu: i for one am impressed a sr user can type at all.

19:46:28 pankkake: silk road isn't only for potheads. or drugs.

19:46:42 kakobrekla: also for crackheads and whores?

19:47:02 asciilifeform: and custom crapware, and spam, apparently

19:47:08 lyspooner: someone give me 1700 coins and i'll give you a photo of a ketchup-covered body and some random numbers

19:47:23 pankkake: eh. I won't say what I wanted to buy on atlantis (and is still unavailable anywhere else) but it wasn't recreational drugs

19:47:42 jcpham: please, do tell.

19:47:49 mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> also for crackheads and whores? << dude you should ipo your humor.

19:47:50 mircea_popescu: i'd buy some.

19:48:04 kakobrekla: :)

19:48:08 mircea_popescu: lyspooner can it be a woman at least ?

19:48:18 lyspooner: no, they're random!

19:48:22 mircea_popescu: this is what i don't understand, these retards already. at the very least they could see some tits for once in their life.

19:48:31 mircea_popescu: but... internet rats being fags...

19:48:44 dub: America was not shut down properly. Would you like to start America in safe mode, with free healthcare and without the guns? (Recommended)

19:49:12 kakobrekla: lmao

19:49:41 dub: sad part is they'd find some other way to implode

19:50:02 mircea_popescu: you can't not implode if you don't work.

19:50:35 mircea_popescu: Bugpowder how;s my luck going ?

19:51:15 Rick__: fix it,thank you mp

19:52:07 mircea_popescu: yw.

19:53:02 asciilifeform: i'm still puzzling over the idiocy of that SR fellow. was he just tired of living?

19:54:18 mircea_popescu: likely, he was just a kid playing. these forum folk, they can do anything, haven't you heard ?

19:54:30 mircea_popescu: much less likely, he's about to rape the feds as per that bet.

19:54:39 asciilifeform: also, it would seem like the U.S. treasury now holds BTC? (if true)

19:54:58 mircea_popescu: i doubt they have the passphrase.

19:55:05 asciilifeform: or maybe whichever cops had the keys to the evidence locker have divvied it up already

19:55:21 mircea_popescu: besides... it will be cracked by some smart guy in the evidence room and emptied before the treasury gets it.

19:55:24 asciilifeform: eh, if that idiot was actually caught, he's probably spat out the key by now

19:55:25 mircea_popescu: right.

19:55:46 mircea_popescu: he'd have to be pretty retarded to give up the key lol.

19:55:49 mircea_popescu: only thing he;'s got.

19:55:58 lyspooner: "what are you going to do the next five years of your life?" DPR's response is here: http://youtu.be/Olib3jnvSmw?t=33m50s

19:57:21 mircea_popescu: dude;s stoned to all fuck is he.

19:57:44 mircea_popescu: amazing link.

19:59:25 pankkake: https://images.4chan.org/g/src/1380733208310.png

19:59:36 dub: he's gonna start a family alrite

19:59:41 asciilifeform: makes you wonder what a sober man might've accomplished.

19:59:42 dub: he'll be the mommy

19:59:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform indeed.

20:00:36 mircea_popescu: i suspect we'd all benefit from much more stringent dope regulation.

20:00:51 asciilifeform: wonder if they'll Ulbricht around in a cage like Yemelyan Pugachev.

20:00:54 mircea_popescu: something along the lines of, shooting kids on the spot for the first pot offence.

20:01:08 DiabloD3: ;;ticker

20:02:02 dub: protip: if dope has killed your potential, you didnt have any

20:02:36 dub: but its nice to have things to blame rite

20:03:51 mircea_popescu: dub if you didn't have any why aren't you shot yet.

20:04:28 dub: stop trying to divide by 0

20:05:02 lyspooner: how short must that investigation have been?

20:05:04 mircea_popescu: my spurious pseudoarguments ;/

20:05:10 TAT_Investments: $avg

20:05:17 TAT_Investments: ;;ticker

20:05:19 lyspooner: 7 step investigation:

20:05:28 lyspooner: 1. find the first place where SR was mentioned

20:05:36 lyspooner: ok, sorry it was only 1 step

20:05:38 mircea_popescu: lyspooner http://fraudsters.com/2013/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain-part-2/

20:07:22 lyspooner: "VIII. The other geek agrees to Internet-kill himself over the Internet for great Internet lulz&drama + justice"

20:08:13 mircea_popescu: fact.

20:09:59 lyspooner: like i said, give me 1700 coins and i'll send you that ladypic with ketchup

20:10:50 mircea_popescu: the current going rate is about a quarter btc for inserting a satisfyingly thick writing implement in your anus

20:10:57 KRS1: i am testing my wallet..send me your coins and i will send them back..just make sure you tell me your address so i know who you are and if it was successful..ok

20:10:59 lyspooner: proof

20:11:09 mircea_popescu: ;;google really are buttcoins nao

20:11:47 pankkake: the buttcoin went from 10 BTC to 0.25?

20:12:06 mircea_popescu: it pays being the first.

20:12:18 mircea_popescu: also, february btc.

20:12:57 lyspooner: mircea_popescu what's all that crap on the camera lens?

20:13:17 mircea_popescu: i will allow you to guess.

20:13:48 lyspooner: tears

20:13:49 mircea_popescu: my own estimate is that this being a mirror in a bathroom in a house inhabited by that guy and similar bipedals

20:13:54 mircea_popescu: it's probably old dry cum

20:14:54 San1ty_: Ugh AM below 1

20:14:57 lyspooner: so that link with Rene Pinnell and Ross Ulbricht. i'm guessing that Rene guy is crapping his pants

20:15:08 pankkake: both those pics are very half assed

20:15:13 San1ty_: I'm starting to wonder if the cat can still deliver

20:15:14 mircea_popescu: lol

20:15:24 mircea_popescu: San1ty_ on the basis of the price ?

20:15:46 San1ty_: mircea_popescu, obv not

20:15:48 mircea_popescu: that's no basis at all. it came to within the band indicated by the girl back when. it's where it should be.

20:15:55 San1ty_: just shows that I'm not the only one thinking it

20:16:19 mircea_popescu: it just shows you're not the only one not thinking would be my preferred format, but anyway.

20:17:49 San1ty_: Haha, okay.. I'm not interested in price at all. Just the delays on the 500 gh's are kinda disappointing and the undecisiveness about second gen

20:18:26 mircea_popescu: on the rumor mill they're all having sudden problems in china over the growing interest that govt is taking in wtf is mining.

20:20:59 af33: anyone know how do I hide assbot ticker from this channel?

20:21:07 mircea_popescu: /ignore assbot ALL

20:21:24 pankkake: with irssi, you can ignore on only one channel

20:21:37 pankkake: now I'm happy with just changing the color

20:21:50 af33: mircea_popescu: thank you.

20:23:54 dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nlt6d/sr_bust_finest_trollage/

20:23:55 ozbot: SR bust == finest trollage? : SilkRoad

20:24:25 pankkake: clever

20:25:05 asciilifeform: any actual evidence for the troll hypothesis?

20:25:12 dexX7: the logo

20:25:25 dexX7: http://i.imgur.com/7jfZLgw.png

20:25:34 dub: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2013/10/new-evidence-n-korea-restarted-reactor-201310219416190275.html

20:25:34 ozbot: New evidence that N Korea restarted reactor - Asia-Pacific - Al Jazeera English

20:25:53 dub: that satellite is flying pretty low

20:25:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was on the internet...

20:30:10 dub: heh

20:30:29 dub: <coworker> what are you going to do with those bitcoin things now?

20:30:39 dub: SR, the only thing bitcoins are for

20:30:58 pankkake: no, there is a brothel accepting bitcoin

20:31:07 dub: I like the implication that I'm regularly buying drugs on the internet

20:32:44 lyspooner: you mean bitcoin assets *aren't* drugs?

20:32:49 lyspooner: oh crap, i'm out

20:32:59 kleeck: I regularly shoot up my bitcoins.

20:35:10 TomServo: Was there a 'hidden site has been seized' notice when Freedom Hosting was taken down?

20:35:51 pankkake: I don't think so

20:36:02 asciilifeform: nope, just a driveby exploit.

20:37:42 mircea_popescu: there was, yes.

20:37:44 mircea_popescu: on the guy's main page.

20:53:33 dub: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/10/rouhani-iran-us-relationship-angers-israel-2013102185832931333.html

20:53:33 ozbot: Rouhani: Iran-US relationship angers Israel - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

20:53:47 dub: obama should grow a beard

20:54:04 dub: and wear a towel

20:58:45 mjoiii: I don't remember seeing the word "hidden" in this notice before

20:59:16 mjoiii: does anyone remember it being there in the past?

20:59:59 dub: http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/former-nsa-honcho-calls-enterprise-security-appalling/

21:00:01 ozbot: Former NSA Honcho Calls Enterprise Security 'Appalling'

21:00:31 dub: obvious statement needs stating

21:00:49 dub: As we look at the situation in the security arena. we see an awful lot of big companies . Fortune 100-level companies . with, to be perfectly candid, appalling security. They have fundamentally no idea what they.re doing,

21:03:03 kakobrekla: lol theres bets on this thing http://bitbet.us/bet/542/the-fbi-were-had/

21:03:18 mircea_popescu: shit tha matters.

21:03:29 pankkake: thanks to dexX7 trolling reddit

21:03:33 kakobrekla: also even odds

21:03:58 dub: how the fuck does that get resolved?

21:04:29 pankkake: the "dpr tried to hire a hitman" is fishy, though

21:04:38 pankkake: it looks like it wasn't even gpg signed!

21:04:47 Diablo-D3: dub: how does it get resolved? the site comes back online tommorow

21:05:04 pankkake: dub: as asual. by bribing bitbet staff

21:05:28 dub: I'm shocked that it even went down

21:05:35 Diablo-D3: Im not

21:05:40 Diablo-D3: sometimes the FBI is competent

21:05:41 dub: standard FBI MO would be to leave it running

21:06:06 mjoiii: they left it running since july when they imaged it

21:07:35 pankkake: I hope the server was encrypted…

21:08:07 mjoiii: yup

21:08:37 Diablo-D3: pankkake: that wouldnt really do much

21:08:51 Diablo-D3: they most likely pulled the key out of ram before shutting it down

21:09:28 pankkake: Diablo-D3: there are ways around that. like hosting it in a physically controlled location

21:10:11 mjoiii: pankkake: so they'd image it by remote?

21:10:35 pankkake: you can read ram through walls?

21:10:54 mjoiii: like physically secure?

21:11:02 pankkake: yes, that's what I meant

21:11:03 mjoiii: then how'd they image it back in jul?

21:11:31 pankkake: oh, I mean that's what *should* be done - not what was done

21:11:53 mjoiii: yeah, shit, what should've..

21:12:01 pankkake: looks like I'm the only one competent and paranoid enough to run the new silk road. brb

21:12:09 mjoiii: must be plenty of people sweating over unencrypted messages back and forth

21:12:38 pankkake: http://openpgpjs.org/ is useful to force even noobs to use gpg

21:12:39 ozbot: OpenPGP.js

21:12:40 mjoiii: i would have thought dpr would be way the hell away from the US

21:12:48 mjoiii: san francisco was a shock

21:14:39 mjoiii: would this be the first occurrence of a tor site being taken down?

21:15:07 pankkake: freedom hosting was first

21:15:21 mjoiii: so that was an .onion too, i didn't know

21:15:27 pankkake: then atlantis shut down by itself

21:15:32 pankkake: it was a hoster of .onions

21:16:08 dub: they can read ram through the power lines

21:16:24 dub: they could in the 80's

21:16:56 pankkake: technology has changed

21:16:59 mjoiii: directly through the lines or from the waves coming off them?

21:17:18 kakobrekla: with trollvision glasses

21:17:28 mjoiii: not xray specs?

21:17:31 pankkake: and even then, there are full-whatever UPSes that would probably kill it

21:17:34 dub: look at the waaaaves brah

21:18:28 dub: I have a buddy that designed a bunch of govt security shit

21:19:05 mjoiii: chips for vpn?

21:19:09 dub: even back then all your peripherals, monitor, keyboard etc was hooked up opticaly

21:19:59 pankkake: CRT monitors were easy to spy on

21:20:27 mjoiii: dub what do you mean optically?

21:20:35 mjoiii: personal computers?

21:20:38 kakobrekla: you can cool down ram and move it to another location / machine and read it

21:21:04 mjoiii: kako: freeze it's state?

21:21:29 dub: basically pc's

21:21:59 mjoiii: trying to understand... how optical? keyboard for example.

21:22:00 kakobrekla: mjoiii this basically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack

21:22:09 dub: mjoiii: fiber optics

21:22:14 pankkake: kakobrekla: yes, unless they're too late

21:22:20 dub: so you cant snarf the rf

21:22:21 pankkake: $20 webcam + motion = automated shutdown

21:23:33 jurov: i was under impression they just subpoenaed colo provider and imaged the machine via network using some 0day

21:24:03 mjoiii: they have a library of vulns?

21:24:15 jurov: why not?

21:24:18 pankkake: there are black markets of vulnerabilities

21:24:35 kakobrekla: unfortunatley they have just taken it down!

21:24:45 dub: even smalltown pedo LE types have shit to sieze or image running machines

21:25:08 pankkake: well it's easy if it's a rented server

21:25:35 pankkake: if you rent the bay, maybe you can booby trap it

21:25:42 dub: wait, USG shuts down, SR shuts down...

21:25:52 pankkake: or simply, host at home. silk road wouldn't require that much bandwith

21:26:26 mjoiii: dub, man you're onto something

21:26:36 jurov: pankkake, or host from internet cafe 150m away..just to be safe, yeah

21:26:45 pankkake: haha

21:26:53 dub: ikr, has anyone even seen a chemtrail this week?

21:27:07 mjoiii: wouldn't the idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries?

21:27:19 kakobrekla: also the global temps are down

21:27:24 dub: fuuu

21:27:35 dub: icecaps refreezing

21:27:41 jurov: "idea be to string the various tiers across multiple countries"oh nobody does it, perhaps except me

21:28:33 pankkake: well, I'd certainly try to put multiple layers (hehe) of security

21:28:47 mjoiii: the only layers seems to be political

21:28:49 kakobrekla: lazerz und bombs!

21:28:51 pankkake: I wonder if combining tor and i2p is doable

21:28:56 mjoiii: i mean that can offer protection

21:29:20 pankkake: and then, the physical security

21:29:30 pankkake: no passwords, only physical tokens

21:29:34 pankkake: self-shutting down

21:29:48 mjoiii: dead man switch

21:30:01 jurov: female slaves in rack

21:30:20 kakobrekla: "oh man a mosquito rm -rfed my silk road for the third time this week!"

21:31:08 pankkake: eh, it's better to have 80% uptime that 0% eventually

21:31:25 pankkake: also, http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome works very well

21:31:43 jurov: sufficiently paranoid sysadmin would never start something like sr

21:31:44 pankkake: I use it successfully with a crappy webcam

21:31:44 kakobrekla: well seems you are ready to rock

21:31:50 kakobrekla: just be sure to leave your gmail here first

21:31:53 pankkake: hehe

21:32:02 jurov: from that follows we'll never have sufficiently secure sr-like service

21:32:07 pankkake: I never ordered from SR, I kept putting it off

21:32:27 pankkake: so I don't really have the experience to rewrite the thing

21:33:11 pankkake: I guess a seller would be the most knowledgeable

21:33:38 mjoiii: rewrite it to be distributed?

21:34:02 jurov: i toyed with idea to hide small solar-powered computer in some place with public wifi

21:34:06 pankkake: that doesn't make much sense. who does the escrow?

21:34:29 mjoiii: godammit

21:34:38 jurov: but i don't really have an use for that

21:34:44 mjoiii: can't be somehow shared amongst users?

21:35:20 jborkl: it would be easier to hide raspberry pis all over at places with free wifi, no one would ever see them

21:35:22 pankkake: jurov: I hope it will be common in the future. even as simple relays

21:35:48 pankkake: the hardest is to have both internet and power

21:36:22 jurov: or there are public transport buses wit wifi running around.. just hack them for power somehow

21:36:33 jborkl: only need 5v

21:36:46 jborkl: a android phone charger

21:36:47 jurov: but they have cameras inside so not trivial

21:37:12 jurov: maybe light fixture can be quickly appropriated

21:37:47 mjoiii: power line induction

21:40:32 jurov: lol i remembered we were thinking here about installing clandestine miners to trolleybuses

21:42:51 dub: had plenty of people suggest hiding miners around the multitude of places I could

21:46:41 dub: got ~1.21 jiggaamps of 50vdc lying around

21:47:04 dub: but risk 6 figures for another 4 or low 5

21:47:09 dub: nothx

21:50:51 mircea_popescu: you're gonna get fired for plugging in your coffee warmer ?

22:06:43 pankkake: I don't know why, but when I put bitcoin addresses in DuckDuckGo, I get sec.gov results

22:13:25 hdheuzbsiwhdb: R..

22:31:45 lolstate: There is now a #neobee IRC channel if anyone you would like to join us

22:37:54 dexX7: there is also #asicminer

22:38:10 kakobrekla: #amazingcompany

22:38:16 dexX7: ha

23:04:40 kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=306672.0;topicseen

23:04:41 ozbot: Alydian is mining

23:23:52 Vexual: dpr should have used burnsides lawyers

23:24:08 Kleeck_: burnside has lawyers?

23:24:17 Kleeck_: *RIMSHOT!*

23:24:25 Vexual: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4647212800/hC495CFC3/

23:24:27 Kleeck_: I'm here all week!

23:25:44 pankkake: skaters are dumb

23:25:59 freshcoin: lol kleeck_

23:27:40 Vexual: paperwallet and hole in the ground associates

23:29:16 Diablo-D3: so

23:29:29 Diablo-D3: I wonder if its time to launch DMC 2.0 sometime in the next 3 months

23:30:59 pankkake: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-10-02/ relevant to bitcoin "entrepreneurs"

23:31:00 ozbot: Dilbert comic strip for 10/02/2013 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive.

23:41:14 Scrat: poor Diablo-D3

23:41:19 Scrat: punching bag

23:41:26 Diablo-D3: yeah, I think gmaxwell just needs to step down

23:41:29 Vexual: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=14b4ec7

23:41:31 ozbot: can i haz skynet

23:41:37 Diablo-D3: he no longer represents bitcoin in any useful capacity

23:47:20 pankkake: meh

23:48:18 Kleeck_: thanks for that freshcoin - the crowd is cold.

23:49:38 pankkake: ;;bc,stats

23:50:24 pankkake: 3 blocks in 1 min by ghash.io

23:50:26 pankkake: wait, 4

23:50:43 pankkake: no, blockchain.info messing up

23:54:24 pankkake: tgs3> gmaxwell: did you just kicked Diablo-D3? wtf?

23:54:27 Vexual: yep, thats at 240th

23:54:36 pankkake: gmaxwell> tgs3: not the first time, certantly not the last.

23:54:50 Vexual: 9 second block

23:55:01 pankkake: bitcoin is now an altcoin!

23:55:27 pankkake: 5th ghash.io block!

23:56:43 Vexual: now hashrate showing 270

23:57:33 kakobrekla: pankkake http://i.imgur.com/6eEXa8P.jpg

23:57:53 kakobrekla: ghash.io ^^

23:58:27 pankkake: kakobrekla: time to do the double spend you always wanted to do!

23:58:43 kakobrekla: hey i dont run the thing

23:58:46 kakobrekla: unfortunatley :)