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00:00:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 51 @ 0.05506273 = 2.8082 BTC [-] {4}

00:00:33 pankkake: my keyboard is http://i.imgur.com/IUxeH.jpg kbc poker

00:00:50 asciilifeform: 'happy hacking' ?

00:01:00 asciilifeform: didn't know they made those in rubber

00:01:03 pankkake: chinese clone with cherry mx

00:01:04 pankkake: much cheaper

00:01:17 asciilifeform: never miss the arrows?

00:01:19 pankkake: but I want happy hacking ones

00:01:28 pankkake: no, but I'm a vim user

00:01:44 pankkake: I have hjkl on vim and firefox at least

00:01:44 asciilifeform: me, i can't fathom why anyone would voluntarily forgo programmable 'F's

00:01:44 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> if you're in the cockpit 12-14 hr/day << jesus we're basically space piliots here

00:02:15 pankkake: well, they're often named "battlestations"

00:02:19 jurov: cock pits

00:02:23 asciilifeform: them bits won't flip themselves.

00:02:25 pankkake: and my mouse http://www.addedbytes.com/images/vertical-mouse.jpg

00:02:45 asciilifeform: found a 'chess pawn' mouse in a skip at wurk once.

00:03:01 dexX7: lol wtf

00:03:12 asciilifeform: (picture that same, but phallic / unmovable joystick shape.)

00:03:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.055 = 0.77 BTC [-]

00:03:48 pankkake: I tried a model m but I kept feeling like it would make up my neighbors

00:03:52 pankkake: wake*

00:04:11 asciilifeform: http://www.dossierd.nl/img/ap_vertical-mouse.jpg

00:04:13 asciilifeform: that'd be it

00:04:24 mircea_popescu: "Since the start, HashFast has been unequivocally committed to the idea that we will produce the highest quality product."

00:04:32 mircea_popescu: lettuce produce the produce!

00:04:54 ThickAsThieves: highest hash content

00:05:21 mircea_popescu: "We focus on this each and everyday [...] by finding a balance between expediency and quality."

00:05:34 mircea_popescu: what the ever loving fuck. how long ago did they stop teaching logic ?

00:06:11 ThickAsThieves: price is the balance

00:06:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8774 @ 0.00082666 = 7.2531 BTC [-] {3}

00:07:02 mircea_popescu: at least have the decency to ennumerate quality first if that's your "unequivocal comittment"

00:07:12 asciilifeform: when i read these pitches, i can't help but recall: "...Filtration System A Marvel to Behold! It Removes Eighty Percent of Human Solid Waste!"

00:07:45 ThickAsThieves: cut the body form the head?

00:07:48 ThickAsThieves: from*

00:08:02 asciilifeform: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070925133821AA5DtrM

00:08:21 ozbot: The lyrics of Kazakhistan national anthem of BORAT? - Yahoo Answers

00:09:16 mircea_popescu: it would be cool if borat and ali g each started their own asic miner company

00:09:22 mircea_popescu: and then i could make a bitbet about it

00:11:00 KRS1: I kinda thought borat = ali g.

00:11:14 mircea_popescu: well it's baron cohen

00:11:21 mircea_popescu: playing both

00:11:43 KRS1: OK thats what I thought. Ali G is awesome

00:14:19 dexX7: http://avalon-asics.com/product/a3255-55nm-chip-500-count-reel/ and then https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=305968.0 x_x

00:14:22 ozbot: Avalon ASIC | A3255 – 55nm Chip – 500 count Reel

00:16:32 mircea_popescu: "I hope that the person who won the auction make available for the community part of the chips from reel at a reasonable price.

00:16:32 mircea_popescu: I'd love to redeem, if the price is attractive."

00:16:59 mircea_popescu: by now "the community" = the group of people who;'d want freebies at other's expense.

00:17:13 mircea_popescu: i blame the usg and fdr for this particularly niggardly redefinition of community.

00:17:37 ThickAsThieves: Neo & Bee Official Updates Nov. 1, 2013 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3460464#msg3460464

00:18:18 asciilifeform: 'community' typically conceived as meaning 'jokers like me'.

00:18:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6448989 BTC [+]

00:19:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00269998 = 0.621 BTC [+]

00:21:32 KRS1: did somebody say free

00:23:20 nubbins`: you don't see the word "niggardly" used often in conversation

00:23:55 mircea_popescu: you don't see any of the ~20k english words outside of the "retard 200" used often in covernsation.

00:24:14 nubbins`: now there's an idea for a poster

00:24:48 asciilifeform: nubbins`: this actually exists. 'basic english' if i recall.

00:25:01 nubbins`: yeah, there's a wikipedia written in simple english

00:25:12 asciilifeform: somebody crapped out a 'standard' for it

00:25:29 nubbins`: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

00:25:47 nubbins`: 1000 most common words

00:25:51 nubbins`: relevant xkcd, one sec

00:26:01 nubbins`: http://xkcd.com/1133/

00:26:01 ozbot: xkcd: Up Goer Five

00:26:31 asciilifeform: anybody remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncleftish_Beholding ?

00:26:39 mircea_popescu: aye.

00:26:45 nubbins`: (eplained using only the ten hundred words people use the most often)

00:27:05 mircea_popescu: also "simple" means "retarded" among other things.

00:27:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 31 @ 0.054 = 1.674 BTC [-]

00:28:02 asciilifeform: https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=alt.language.artificial/ZL4e3fD7eW0/_7p8bKwLJWkJ

00:29:06 asciilifeform: "Thus, water is a binding of two waterstuff unclefts

00:29:06 asciilifeform: with one sourstuff uncleft, while a bulkbit of one of the

00:29:06 asciilifeform: forestuffs making up flesh may have a thousand thousand or more

00:29:06 asciilifeform: unclefts of these two firststuffs together with coalstuff and

00:29:06 asciilifeform: chokestuff."

00:29:36 nubbins`: ha

00:30:11 mircea_popescu: ;;google fraudsters uncleftish

00:30:13 gribble: No matches found.

00:30:17 mircea_popescu: o get out.

00:30:38 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2012/experimente-lingvistice/

00:30:39 ozbot: Experimente lingvistice pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

00:32:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0059867 = 0.1676 BTC [+]

00:33:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13388 @ 0.00021 = 2.8115 BTC [-] {3}

00:34:56 asciilifeform: "This end should point toward the ground if you want to go to space. If it starts pointing toward space you are having a bad problem and you will not go to space today."

00:35:13 asciilifeform: there's a bit of a general-purpose lesson here...

00:36:52 mircea_popescu: where's that from ?

00:37:20 asciilifeform: http://xkcd.com/1133/

00:37:21 ozbot: xkcd: Up Goer Five

00:37:27 asciilifeform: (from nubbins, above)

00:39:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12696 @ 0.00083083 = 10.5482 BTC [+] {3}

00:41:42 mircea_popescu: oh i c hehe

00:42:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.6448989 = 3.8694 BTC [+]

01:04:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]

01:05:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00269998 = 0.135 BTC [+]

01:07:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00269998 = 0.3105 BTC [+]

01:23:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00269991 = 0.135 BTC [-]

01:28:29 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Put a bet up, first to go up 5x in value from today. Bitcoin or Litecoin?

01:29:09 pankkake: submit something to http://bitbet.us/ and I'll bet

01:30:19 pankkake: in value compared to what?

01:31:11 skinnkavaj: pankkake: What do you think, nipples?

01:31:21 pankkake: ripples? :)

01:31:29 skinnkavaj: Dicks?

01:31:31 mircea_popescu: "bitcoin will reach 1000 usd before litecoin will reach 50 cents again" ?

01:31:44 skinnkavaj: No the poll should be

01:32:05 skinnkavaj: What will go in ten times in fiat value from today, bitcoin or litecoin?

01:32:11 skinnkavaj: +up

01:32:21 pankkake: another issue is that you don't need a lot of volume to make those things move (perhaps restrict to a minimum volume)

01:32:21 skinnkavaj: Fastest.

01:32:45 pankkake: I guess you could use btc-e as a source, it has both exchangeable to fiat

01:32:47 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Lol, yeah go ahead try to start pump LTC on btc-e

01:32:56 skinnkavaj: Try it

01:32:56 pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/524/litecoin-to-rise-above-04-btc-before-2014/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK by the way

01:33:01 ozbot: BitBet - Litecoin to rise above .04 BTC before 2014

01:33:13 skinnkavaj: pankkake: That's not the bet I am after

01:33:17 pankkake: well it did see wild swings these last few days

01:33:35 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Wild swings, yeah 0.1-0.3 USD

01:33:37 mircea_popescu: what's ltc atm, about .01 btc ?

01:34:01 skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: Yes

01:34:25 mircea_popescu: so then there you have it. that bet only asks for ltc to go up 4x raher than 5x

01:34:31 mircea_popescu: and for that matter odds against it are like 10:1

01:34:33 mircea_popescu: go get rich.

01:34:34 pankkake: it moved a few times between .008 BTC and 0.012 BTC if I'm not mistaken

01:34:52 skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: Wrong bet

01:34:56 skinnkavaj: I am asking from todays date

01:35:04 mircea_popescu: makes exactly 0 difference.

01:35:06 skinnkavaj: What is going to go up 10x in value first, bitcoin or litecoin?

01:35:12 skinnkavaj: Fiat value

01:35:18 skinnkavaj: Yes it does.

01:35:28 skinnkavaj: I think bitcoin will rise 400%

01:35:30 skinnkavaj: Litecoin 1000%

01:35:38 skinnkavaj: Based on todays USD rates.

01:36:02 mircea_popescu: so basically ltc = 0.025 btc.

01:36:14 mircea_popescu: i dunno anyone cares enough to bet on that one. seems like random noise.

01:36:22 KRS1: yes

01:36:45 KRS1: random

01:37:03 skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: No, if LTC go up 10x in value today it will be 0.1 LTC/BTC, not 0.25 LTC/BTC.

01:37:30 pankkake: if bitcoin value stays right where it is

01:37:43 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Yes, but as stated. I want the bet to be in USD value.

01:38:06 mircea_popescu: skinnkavaj dude stop drowning yourself in words. if you think ltc will go up as high as 0.04 btc, you can take the 10:1 odds against on that bet and make out like a pirate.

01:38:14 mircea_popescu: if you don't, you don't, we all agree, nobody cares. move on.

01:38:21 KRS1: everyone has an opinion..mine is that the hype will die off and it will slowly die to under a buck and stay there for years

01:38:34 skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: Lol, pussy.

01:38:40 skinnkavaj: Guess you are too afraid to put up that bet.

01:38:45 pankkake: lol

01:38:50 mircea_popescu: KRS1 ltc around 1 usd ain't hurting anything. on the contrary, puts the greenback in its proper perspective.

01:38:50 kakobrekla: O_O

01:38:55 mircea_popescu: that's what the dollar is, a sort of ltc.

01:39:29 KRS1: right

01:39:43 KRS1: but i was referring to all virt currency

01:39:46 mircea_popescu: yet another anon altcoin. this one made by the us.

01:42:19 skinnkavaj: Listen to mircea_popescu he has the ugliest interface joke security exchange that recently got hacked even though "Failing last since 2011"

01:42:41 pankkake: btctctc never got hacked?

01:42:51 skinnkavaj: No

01:43:13 mircea_popescu: eh go bark up niederaurer's tree.

01:43:23 mircea_popescu: how do i end up with all the deluded ninnies.

01:43:23 kakobrekla: skinnkavaj cause graphic matter when one is moving money.

01:44:24 skinnkavaj: mircea_popescu: You partnered up with one deluded girlfriend

01:44:40 skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: cause security does not matter when "Failing last since 2011"

01:44:48 kakobrekla: skinnkavaj you are making yourself look silly.

01:45:50 skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: Defending your partner in crime

01:46:06 skinnkavaj: Stop it

01:46:10 kakobrekla: only cause he pays so good.

01:46:21 KRS1: who cares about niceties it works really well and thats all that matters

01:47:03 skinnkavaj: KRS1: Living in stone age

01:47:09 skinnkavaj: With both stone age security and design

01:47:20 skinnkavaj: Hiring retarded MPOE-PR staff

01:47:42 kakobrekla: someone is jelly.

01:48:03 skinnkavaj: Someone got in to bed with the wrong person about security

01:48:08 skinnkavaj: and now defending him here

01:48:10 skinnkavaj: LOL

01:48:34 kakobrekla: do you use pgp?

01:48:41 pankkake: a good thing to do is to try to understand why are things that way

01:48:50 pankkake: or as mpoe-pr says "lurk moar"

01:49:01 skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: Yes, why do you ask

01:49:17 kakobrekla: just trying to understand at which point your logic fails

01:50:15 skinnkavaj: pankkake: mpex is not even secure, you should place "Hacked since 2013"

01:50:47 dexX7: betting on btc volume is stupid when there are more than one chinese btc exchange with zero fees atm

01:51:07 dexX7: highscore was something like 100k for one day

01:51:09 skinnkavaj: If it wasn't for hiring MPOE-PR as staff I wouldn't bash on mircea_popescu for having bad security

01:51:20 dexX7: (on one specific exchange)

01:51:27 skinnkavaj: dexX7: Who sad anything about volume?

01:52:04 dexX7: oh sorry, you're right. i read value = volume in the first sentence

01:52:21 pankkake: fuck, I now own 0.005

01:52:27 pankkake: LTC

01:52:42 skinnkavaj: Welcome

01:52:45 skinnkavaj: The grass is greener here

01:52:52 pankkake: and worse, it's on ripple!

01:52:57 kakobrekla: lol

01:53:46 skinnkavaj: Piratebay and Wikipedia accept LTC and LTC is going to die out soon!? LOL

01:54:28 skinnkavaj: Wikileaks*

01:54:31 skinnkavaj: Wikipedia is too retarded

01:54:38 skinnkavaj: To accept crypto currencies

01:55:32 pankkake: I think i'll donate in fiat anyway, because it can get me a tax break

01:55:45 kakobrekla: the thing is, exchangeing from one cc to another cc is way easier than for merchant or service provider to accept all 463 of them

01:58:07 pankkake: skinnkavaj: http://i.imgur.com/MJrJF6Q.png

01:58:39 pankkake: I would have exchanged to btc but the order book was almost empty

01:58:42 kakobrekla: you use that shit?

01:58:52 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Why are you using premined scam?

01:58:53 pircea_momescu: skinnkavaj it's a scam !

01:58:57 pankkake: not really, I use it to get free bitcoins

01:59:10 pankkake: kakobrekla: I wrote a script to farm a giveaway

01:59:24 kakobrekla: classy.

01:59:26 skinnkavaj: pircea_momescu: What is a scam?

01:59:26 pircea_momescu: skinnkavaj it's a scam !

01:59:47 pankkake: I've sold most of past giveaways for btc

02:00:17 kakobrekla: seriously nothing better to do with your time?

02:00:38 pankkake: not really :/

02:00:43 pankkake: I have excuses

02:00:52 skinnkavaj: Ripple is a scam yes

02:00:54 kakobrekla: :)

02:01:01 pankkake: is Ripple a scam?

02:01:01 pircea_momescu: pankkake ripple is a scam !

02:01:14 skinnkavaj: Ripple is premined

02:01:59 KRS1: premined to all hell as i have read it

02:02:02 skinnkavaj: And centralized.

02:02:07 KRS1: that too

02:02:09 pankkake: but the real question, is litecoin a scam

02:02:09 pircea_momescu: pankkake litecoin is a scam !

02:02:32 skinnkavaj: I am not even suprised people like pankkake think ripple is good

02:02:47 skinnkavaj: I don't expect more from you

02:02:53 asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/us/silicon-valley-roused-by-secession-call.html?_r=0

02:03:02 pankkake: skinnkavaj: lurk moar. I've spent plenty of time on ripple threads

02:04:15 pankkake: most people defending ripple don't understand it and just want to sell their overpriced XRP

02:04:23 skinnkavaj: pankkake: What a waste of time. You only have to spend 30 minutes of reading to understand that it is both centralised and premined. And if you still think it's good, I will not even bother to argue with you. Then I really have to declare you retarded.

02:04:58 kakobrekla: skinnkavaj: lurk moar. < listen to this

02:05:18 pankkake: asciilifeform: interesting

02:05:42 kakobrekla: a 350th rehash of the matter

02:05:44 kakobrekla: re nytimes

02:06:11 mike_c: asciilifeform you just made me dumber. thanks.

02:06:12 skinnkavaj: Is pircea_momescu some troll hired by mircea_popescu?

02:06:13 pankkake: I'd be surprised if those hipsters ever seceeded though

02:06:32 mike_c: "The Quantified Self movement helps people self-measure and opt out of the health care system"

02:06:52 pankkake: skinnkavaj: it's a bot I wrote, aimed at replacing mircea_popescu entirely. so far it only has a few triggers

02:07:06 kakobrekla: lol

02:07:08 mike_c: hm, so when i quantify that I have an infection I can.. get my prescription how?

02:07:21 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Yeah he and MPOE-PR can be replaced by a bot

02:07:32 kakobrekla: skinnkavaj your troll skills suck.

02:07:55 skinnkavaj: I am a qualified Anti Troll Combat Specalist

02:08:31 kakobrekla: you mean Anti Combat Troll Specialist?

02:08:37 asciilifeform: mike_c: that piece is definitely 'cringe material'.

02:08:43 mike_c: so bad

02:09:29 kakobrekla: like that mps nuke that instead of hurting, it heals people.

02:13:52 BingoBoingo: ;;

02:16:11 BingoBoingo: skinnkavaj: I still think I was right to dump LTC at 0.0015

02:17:09 pankkake: well obviously as you can buy more with the same amount of btc now

02:17:14 BingoBoingo: LTC might have hope if the wrong kind of people weren't shilling it

02:17:50 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: LTC hums along until somebody remembers that you can plug RAM into an ASIC.

02:17:59 pankkake: in other news, yet another scrypt alcoin was 51% attacked

02:18:15 mircea_popescu: dude all the highlights

02:18:18 mircea_popescu: what happened hiar

02:18:33 asciilifeform: i tell you, programmable werkfunctions are the altcoinfuture.

02:19:00 asciilifeform: ('tis that or slavecoin.)

02:19:03 pankkake: how do you prevent an attack by computers you can rent by the hour?

02:19:21 pankkake: (or the minute, for primecoin)

02:19:44 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course. Most Altcoins die on social rather than technological grounds anyway.

02:20:14 asciilifeform: pankkake: how do you prevent an attack by incoming MIRV ICBM?

02:20:18 BingoBoingo: Cablepair and Finshaggy killed Devcoin.

02:20:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "roused". i lolled.

02:20:42 kakobrekla: Devcoin? Devcoin killed devcoin.

02:21:16 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It seems you avoid MIRV ICBM packages by living somewhere boring, but not too much so. A lot of missiles are still in Kansas and Montana.

02:21:38 BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: It was flawed from the start. Its death was accelerated though.

02:21:39 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that would make K and M 'interesting', wouldn't it.

02:22:12 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not particularly when Missouri and Wisconsin have more fusible material to seize.

02:22:48 mircea_popescu: "In practice, this vision calls for building actual communities that would be beyond the reach of the state that Silicon Valley?s libertarians despise."

02:23:03 pankkake: you made my bot crash

02:23:13 asciilifeform: point is, some things you don't prevent, you just live with them - and try to set up a world where they aren't especially tempting.

02:23:15 pankkake: invalid unicode

02:23:26 kakobrekla: pankkake is what he does.

02:23:37 mircea_popescu: incidentally, https://www.google.com/search?q=pircea+mopescu&complete=0

02:23:48 mircea_popescu: romanian haterz have a history of calling me that.

02:24:14 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2013#366076 <<< assbot suffered too.

02:24:16 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

02:24:25 mircea_popescu: but unlike your bot, assbot is failing last since 2012.

02:24:32 kakobrekla: :D

02:24:50 asciilifeform: http://beautifuldecay.com/2013/06/07/the-obsessively-detailed-linocut-portraits-of-mircea-popescu/

02:24:51 ozbot: The Obsessively Detailed Linocut Portraits Of Mircea Popescu - Beautiful/Decay Artist & Design

02:24:55 asciilifeform: MP, that you?

02:25:34 mircea_popescu: nah.

02:32:47 mircea_popescu: Not everyone in technology wants to flee, though. Catherine Bracy, director of community organizing at Code for America, criticized this genre of thinking as reflecting a simple lack of exposure by many Valley engineers: ?Most of them aren?t confronted with or don?t have an understanding of most problems regular people are facing. If they had to collect food stamps or ride the bus or send their kid to public scho

02:32:47 mircea_popescu: ol, they might be more empathetic to the role that government plays in people?s lives and more interested in fixing those problems than opting out.?

02:33:02 mircea_popescu: herp. the leeches are displeased with this talk of being cut off!

02:34:42 asciilifeform: 'Big fleas have little fleas, / Upon their backs to bite 'em, / And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so, ad infinitum...'

02:35:30 mircea_popescu: it's funny tho. "what do you mean we're not sucking these p[eople's cocks enough, and the solution is for all the "people" to spend a lot more time on their hands and knees worshipping them ?!?!?!"

02:35:44 mircea_popescu: "no, they SHOULD spend their time fixing our problems. cause we have problems. derp!"

02:36:25 mircea_popescu: "because empathy!!!1"

02:36:34 Ademan: wat

02:36:35 asciilifeform: 'And the great fleas, themselves, in turn / Have greater fleas to go on; / While these again have greater still, / And greater still, and so on...'

02:37:19 mircea_popescu: i temporarily forget what the equivalent of empathy was. "for the greater glory of the soviets" or something

02:37:40 asciilifeform: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1ICS21RWrg

02:37:41 ozbot: Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite 'em. - YouTube

02:39:40 Ademan: Helping people is fine, taking other people's shit to do it on the other hand...

02:44:01 mircea_popescu: Ademan helping other people is only fine if you feel like it.

02:44:10 mircea_popescu: if they feel like it it's quite the epitome of unfine.

02:44:57 mircea_popescu: ? ? .?

02:45:16 mircea_popescu: pankkake there, you fixed it.

02:45:36 pankkake: yeah. at least I learned a bit more about that lib

02:46:03 pankkake: (and why other people complained about it :p)

02:50:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 18663 @ 0.0002 = 3.7326 BTC [+]

02:51:15 skinnkavaj: So excited

02:51:33 skinnkavaj: mcxNOW 0.4 btc fee shares never gonna sell out

02:53:41 skinnkavaj: and so obvious LTC is going for 0.1 LTC/BTC

02:54:28 mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mg

02:54:30 mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MG 1 day: average: 0.0002 high: 0.0002 low: 0.0002 volume: 18663 btc: 3.7326 7 day: average: 0.0002 high: 0.0002 low: 0.0002 volume: 20000 btc: 4.0 30 day: average: 0.0001905 high: 0.0002 low: 0.00018 volume: 38100 btc: 7.25801

02:55:18 mircea_popescu: i guess people found greyhawk

03:02:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00269998 = 0.945 BTC [+]

03:05:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 12800 @ 0.0001795 = 2.2976 BTC [-]

03:09:29 bloctoc: doubtful given the painful install. probably just needs the money to buy ripples.

03:12:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 226 @ 0.00082613 = 0.1867 BTC [-]

03:21:17 mircea_popescu: bloctoc you mean eulora ?

03:22:00 bloctoc: yes - isn't greyhawk the old dude from eulora that sounds like uncle jessie?

03:23:03 mircea_popescu: something like that yeah.

03:23:10 mircea_popescu: so why's it painful ?

03:25:43 bloctoc: can't find install instructions in the readme for one. after finding launch.sh from a post months ago, it crashes on some missing dependency but I didn't see a list of deps in the readme I'm not asking for help, just answering the question. I'm sure greyhawk will be there once I get the thing running.

03:26:12 mircea_popescu: well i'm sort of in the business of making it less painful.

03:26:30 bloctoc: … and that's why I answered.

03:26:53 mircea_popescu: so did you download the v3 ?

03:28:46 bloctoc: yes, this morning. I'm not on a linux machine at the moment. I'll try again in the morning, just not into troubleshooting just right now. I'll let you know how it goes with greyhawk.

03:28:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00269998 = 0.1296 BTC [+]

03:29:15 Namworld: [22:51] <skinnkavaj> mcxNOW 0.4 btc fee shares never gonna sell out

03:29:15 Namworld: [22:53] <skinnkavaj> and so obvious LTC is going for 0.1 LTC/BTC

03:29:31 mircea_popescu: right, cause that should include a .sh in there. but anyway, when you get to it.

03:29:32 Namworld: This not be #litecoin-pricetalk

03:30:05 Namworld: 0.1 is high as fuck...

03:31:02 Vexual: Haliaeetus leucogaster

03:38:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]

03:47:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.36489994 = 3.649 BTC [+]

03:49:20 mike_c: eulora is 800mb already? whoa.

03:49:30 Vexual: monkeys exist time/monkeys have computers time <<< earth exists time/earth has monkeys time

03:51:38 mircea_popescu: mike_c most of it is cruft tbh

03:51:44 mircea_popescu: we've not done a serious scrubbing yet.

03:53:06 Vexual: replace the word computer with bitcoin and calculate the lowest blockheight for which the statement is true

03:54:04 mike_c: do you ever plan to work out of github? or just occasionally update the code you have on there.

03:55:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-]

03:58:22 Vexual: genesis, 1, 2 or 3

03:59:38 Ademan: pankkake: I saw you commented on bASIC-MINING, do you know what's going on there?

04:01:14 mike_c: hehe. chrome hates eulora

04:01:17 mike_c: http://imgur.com/fpgQozy

04:01:17 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

04:01:46 mike_c: it could be dangerous!

04:03:39 Vexual: the best thing about monkey magic, even with his irrepressable nature, is that he still respecteded the spoilt rich kid who sat in the shade smoking hash

04:05:09 Vexual: i mean buddha not jesus or mohammad, i dont think monkey had heard of those guys when the story was written

04:13:50 Vexual: monkey magic was straight pimpin

04:16:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9153 @ 0.00082331 = 7.5358 BTC [-]

04:17:28 Ademan: I'm surprised, I might have actually gotten asicminer at the bottom

04:17:48 Ademan: unless it has more to fall hehe

04:17:58 Vexual: i think it started lower

04:19:33 Vexual: did you buy at the price burside listed for?

04:22:45 Vexual: hotoiledpussy should start thinging about making smartphones

04:23:46 Ademan: Hrm? I just bought ~0.6BTC/share

04:24:21 Vexual: nerdalicious ggoglefucking linuxfones

04:25:03 Vexual: with 802.11s and other genius stuff built in

04:26:09 Vexual: if you want to spend a months fucking around with usb sticks, makes some with writable cids, you'll sell more

04:29:13 mircea_popescu: mike_c prolly the latter.

04:29:40 Vexual: no standards adhered-to just like mp and al

04:30:01 mircea_popescu: github is a standard now ?

04:30:10 mircea_popescu: Ademan originally it was 0.1 if memory serves.

04:31:00 asciilifeform: yah, a standard, like EBCDIC.

04:31:26 Vexual: random numbers from the camera

04:34:25 mircea_popescu: coder ppl can use whatever social media platforms they feel like.

04:34:42 Ademan: mircea_popescu: ah, dang, wish I was around for IPO then... but still, this is the lowest it's been in some time

04:36:02 mircea_popescu: true. on the oither hand diff is also highest it was in some time, and their network share is lowest in history iirc.

04:37:45 Vexual: shows some intelligence sitting on the funds

04:38:40 Vexual: has hotoiledpussy spent much yet?

04:39:06 Ademan: mircea_popescu: yeah, I bought with the expectation that I could very easily be out the money

04:39:24 Vexual: ademan, if it hits 5, sell the lot

04:40:43 Ademan: We'll see what the future has in store, I kind of doubt it'll get that high again

04:41:24 Vexual: theres half a chance hell mint the best sha chip

04:42:23 Vexual: or diversify in a profitable direction?!?!!

04:43:07 Ademan: Well my gamble is that fried has some exciting new hardware in the works, but we'll see

04:43:52 Vexual: that mining bug is a motherfucker

04:44:36 Vexual: he could easily spend the lot chasing the past

04:45:53 mircea_popescu: you never know.

04:46:33 Vexual: would nsa ever sell out to an american defense contract?

04:47:05 Vexual: or some other govt?

04:47:20 Vexual: we know you like money?

04:49:11 Vexual: mircea_popescu?

04:52:31 Vexual: its ok i already know the answer

04:53:07 Vexual: you would take 1 million to put a socketed backdoor chip on your stick

04:53:49 Vexual: then the user can pop it off and keep going

04:54:26 Vexual: with a howto on fraudsters as soon as the check clears

04:54:45 mircea_popescu: well, nsa can in principle be bought out, like any bitcoin company.

04:54:55 mircea_popescu: proceeds would be distributed to shareholders.

04:55:28 mircea_popescu: that aside, it's not exactly part of the business model or good for business to serve the interests of third parties. nsa works for its customers.

04:55:36 Vexual: yes, that is a truer thruth

04:55:54 Vexual: the nsa would gain little from buying nsa

04:56:52 Vexual: i wonder if they would prefer dividends or stop sales?

04:57:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64245 = 1.2849 BTC [-] {2}

04:58:13 Vexual: dividends would afford more astroglide for friday drinks

05:00:01 Vexual: its only torture if its happening to someone else

05:01:24 Vexual: how dare mr snowden steal their data

05:05:39 Ademan: astroglide for friday drinks? what the hell do you drink?! heh

05:07:13 Vexual: i watch saturday night live

05:07:50 Vexual: last week had an interesting piece on how obama is disallowed from being a free thinking individual

05:10:46 Vexual: http://www.vulture.com/2013/10/taran-killam-on-12-years-a-slave-sketch.html

05:12:04 Vexual: ironic in contrast with clinton repealing cryptography laws and smoking cigars like a pimp

05:12:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00269998 = 0.108 BTC [+]

05:14:04 Vexual: id bitbet theyll joke about the tsa agent getting shot at lax, those writers dont give a fuck

05:15:14 Vexual: this saturday

05:17:14 Vexual: if only bitbet was a bit more bubblegum :)

05:19:27 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAbE36IBTZY

05:19:27 ozbot: monkey magic intro - YouTube

05:50:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00109999 = 0.22 BTC [+]

05:50:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00594323 = 0.1783 BTC [+] {4}

05:51:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4747 @ 0.00082331 = 3.9083 BTC [-]

05:51:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00599988 = 0.336 BTC [+]

05:57:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6449 = 3.2245 BTC [+]

05:58:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 460 @ 0.00599966 = 2.7598 BTC [+] {5}

06:00:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.66999592 BTC [+]

06:10:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00609631 = 0.2073 BTC [+] {4}

06:16:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5670 @ 0.00082593 = 4.683 BTC [+] {2}

06:19:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]

06:23:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00252504 = 1.2625 BTC [-] {3}

06:24:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00250407 = 0.2504 BTC [-] {3}

06:25:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.66999592 = 1.34 BTC [+]

06:25:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00083011 = 8.3426 BTC [+]

06:27:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00615942 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}

06:30:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+]

06:33:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00615943 = 0.1663 BTC [+]

06:35:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+]

06:36:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 248 @ 0.00618986 = 1.5351 BTC [+] {5}

06:48:25 benkay: i would very much like a cardano into which i can put my own keys. and also to sleep with all of your sisters.

06:48:36 benkay: mostly just the good-looking ones.

06:49:36 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Xl0Qry-hA

06:49:36 ozbot: Nancy Sinatra Bang Bang - YouTube

06:50:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13180 @ 0.00083011 = 10.9408 BTC [+]

06:53:29 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOUxZDwKK4A

06:53:30 ozbot: Tank Girl-That's not in the plan. - YouTube

06:54:31 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAOR6ib95kQ

06:54:32 ozbot: Gorillaz - DARE - YouTube

06:58:06 Vexual: yo pimp, how was the ratraces smidge?

06:58:51 Vexual: now that you've slept on it

07:00:56 Vexual: must need coffee and a fried jam bun

07:02:18 Vexual: but the fat spliff comes first in deutsche

07:03:59 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qttGJ3il62Y

07:03:59 ozbot: Seeed - Augenbling (official Video) - YouTube

07:04:05 Vexual: wake up smidge

07:09:07 Vexual: even india does 24/7

07:11:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00082769 = 6.7043 BTC [-]

07:12:19 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLiFb_xwB1E

07:12:20 ozbot: Jungle Brothers "Because I Got It Like That" (album version) 1989 - YouTube

07:16:56 Vexual: p2p

07:17:51 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6wBxQVBozI

07:17:51 ozbot: Willie Nelson and Shania Twain, Blue eyes crying in the rain - YouTube

07:18:41 Vexual: i hope kakos asleep or a counrty fan

07:20:47 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKGLPPjWrs

07:20:48 ozbot: Willie Nelson - Maria (Shut Up And Kiss Me) - YouTube

07:28:32 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMPmGbjW8mk

07:28:33 ozbot: Evie Part 1 - YouTube

07:31:33 Vexual: extremely cautious on fiat exposed assets

07:33:21 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJwZhqU0QL4

07:33:22 ozbot: AC/DC - It's a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock 'n' Roll) - YouTube

07:45:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36489994 BTC [+]

07:45:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.689 BTC [+]

07:49:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.36489995 BTC [+]

07:53:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 274 @ 0.00633998 = 1.7372 BTC [+] {2}

07:54:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.0063499 = 0.2667 BTC [+]

07:55:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00665 = 0.9975 BTC [+]

07:55:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 431 @ 0.00109999 = 0.4741 BTC [+]

07:56:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0066 = 0.264 BTC [-]

07:59:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1630 @ 0.00269998 = 4.401 BTC [+]

08:00:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.00665 = 0.1995 BTC [+]

08:22:02 zacm: there was a shooting at a california airport? what a sick loser coward.

08:34:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 280 @ 0.0025001 = 0.7 BTC [-]

08:34:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]

08:52:32 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdSUkABrNoM

08:52:33 ozbot: Snoop Dogg - 10 L.A.X. - Blue Carpet Treatment - YouTube

08:57:15 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOWPyHYRMU

08:57:16 ozbot: Tha Dogg Pound & Snoop Dogg - "L.A. Here's 2 U" (Music Video) - YouTube

08:58:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 27 @ 0.00665 = 0.1796 BTC [-]

09:11:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-]

09:11:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0067 = 0.335 BTC [+]

09:18:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-]

09:30:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00082285 = 8.6399 BTC [-] {3}

09:37:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.0608 = 0.1216 BTC [+]

09:45:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 16 @ 0.0609 = 0.9744 BTC [+]

09:47:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14798 @ 0.00082526 = 12.2122 BTC [+] {2}

10:08:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0067 = 0.2345 BTC [+]

10:27:54 ASIVI_: Guys, currently the main issue I'm having with BTC company stocks is that the stock market is unregulated, therefore very risky. How do you ensure you won't be just ripped off? How do you deal with this?

10:28:50 jurov: ASIVI_: you can get ripped with any stocks, not just btc ones

10:28:53 jurov: mircea_popescu: pm

10:39:33 mircea_popescu: ASIVI_ you lurk moar.

10:42:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00082702 = 5.9959 BTC [+]

10:44:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1273 @ 0.00109999 = 1.4003 BTC [+]

10:45:19 jurov: ;;gpg ident jurov

10:45:22 gribble: Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is identified as user jurov, with GPG key id 677ABD62D0AEE7D7, key fingerprint BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7, and bitcoin address None

10:54:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 500 @ 0.0002295 = 0.1148 BTC [+] {2}

10:56:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+]

10:57:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-]

11:08:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [-]

11:13:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.701 BTC [+]

11:20:20 jurov: so, assholes at inputs.io felt compelled to invent their own bitcoin signature format...

11:24:52 jurov: oh, and helpful option "Format message" checked by default...

11:28:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.06 = 0.24 BTC [-]

11:39:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.06067888 = 0.5461 BTC [+] {2}

11:49:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.692 BTC [-]

12:00:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.69348300 BTC to 1`386`966 shares, 50 satoshi per share

12:05:44 kakobrekla: lol jurov

12:10:25 pankkake: well they have to find a way to prevent you from signing bitcoin transactions

12:18:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00109999 = 0.11 BTC [+]

12:18:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]

12:19:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+]

12:21:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36489999 = 0.7298 BTC [+]

12:37:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+]

12:38:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 114 @ 0.0065 = 0.741 BTC [-] {2}

12:43:28 nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2013#366087

12:43:30 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

12:43:32 nubbins`: those linocuts are fucking SICK

12:43:38 nubbins`: so much effort

12:46:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00678998 = 0.3259 BTC [+]

12:51:25 kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23321.msg3463516#msg3463516

12:51:26 ozbot: Slovenija / Slovenia

12:51:27 kakobrekla: hehe

12:52:11 nubbins`: Dear Sirs and Madams,

12:52:25 nubbins`: this sentence starts with a lower-case letter.

12:53:08 kakobrekla: meh i have read it now

12:53:10 kakobrekla: some bullshit

12:53:13 nubbins`: ;)

12:53:41 nubbins`: kinda loses steam near the end

12:53:46 nubbins`: "Please investigate this issue"

12:54:19 nubbins`: anyway, cooking with cast iron, amirite?

12:54:25 nubbins`: fuck teflon

12:55:23 kakobrekla: dunno, women do that for me

12:56:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00269997 = 0.1026 BTC [+]

12:56:21 nubbins`: lel

12:56:25 nubbins`: you're one of those

12:56:40 nubbins`: do women wipe your bum after you poo? :(

12:56:41 kakobrekla: one of which

12:57:07 kakobrekla: a noble men like me dont poo

12:57:10 nubbins`: ah!

12:57:17 nubbins`: well no wonder you get others to cook for you

12:57:56 kakobrekla: but in all seriousness

12:58:00 kakobrekla: i wipe my own ass!

12:58:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.06122199 = 0.1224 BTC [+]

12:58:28 kakobrekla: its just not practical

12:58:32 kakobrekla: to have someone else do it for you

12:58:36 kakobrekla: else i might do it

13:00:13 nubbins`: heh

13:00:22 nubbins`: there's a certain vulnerability involved in getting someone else to wipe your ass

13:00:43 kakobrekla: never trust an asswiper you cant throw outta window

13:00:48 nubbins`: right?

13:00:51 kakobrekla: ;)

13:00:52 nubbins`: worse than american airport

13:01:01 nubbins`: anything could happen!

13:01:12 kakobrekla: hey, some might even enjoy it

13:02:11 nubbins`: anyway. the trick to good hash browns is to first microwave the diced potato

13:02:25 nubbins`: then you put the potato in the cast iron pan once the oil begins to smoke

13:02:30 kakobrekla: ;;google hash browns

13:02:31 gribble: Crispy Hash Browns Recipe | Simply Recipes: http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/crispy_hash_browns/; Hash browns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_browns; Man Hash Browns Recipe : Alton Brown : Recipes : Food Network: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/man-hash-browns-recipe/

13:02:52 kakobrekla: i still dont undestand, what am i looking at

13:03:11 kakobrekla: i like potato so keep talking

13:03:16 nubbins`: ah

13:03:22 nubbins`: just diced potato, fried in oil

13:03:23 nubbins`: 1 sec

13:04:26 kakobrekla: cause the only brown hash i know is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashish

13:04:49 nubbins`: heh

13:04:53 kakobrekla: unelss that some new crypto coin algorithm

13:04:57 nubbins`: well, that type smells a lot better

13:05:01 nubbins`: http://imgur.com/YUkYXpw

13:05:02 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

13:05:19 nubbins`: so once those are done, i cook eggs and toast some delicious Montreal-style bagels

13:05:23 nubbins`: breakfast of champions

13:05:52 kakobrekla: ok so fried potato?

13:06:00 kakobrekla: why dont you call it chips then or fries

13:06:17 nubbins`: "hash" is any food consisting of coarsely-chopped ingredients, mixed together

13:06:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 36 @ 0.00749999 = 0.27 BTC [-]

13:06:41 kakobrekla: aha so you have to be sloppy when chopping to get hash

13:06:44 kakobrekla: got it.

13:06:48 nubbins`: so hahs browns are browned potatoes that you'd add to a hash

13:07:07 nubbins`: https://www.google.ca/search?q=cabbage+hash&espv=210&es_sm=119&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8_h0UrK0FojksASKv4GgBA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1235&bih=780

13:07:14 nubbins`: cabbage hash is popular with old folks here

13:07:19 kakobrekla: man this potatio hole is deeper than i though

13:07:20 kakobrekla: t

13:07:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 665 @ 0.00109999 = 0.7315 BTC [+]

13:07:55 kakobrekla: ok i think i understand.

13:08:54 b0n1: what prevents doog from taking the coins of jd and run?

13:09:06 kakobrekla: nothing

13:09:08 kakobrekla: !jd

13:09:09 assbot: Just-Dice stat: 6740 BTC profit, 61.5k BTC invested, 221.94 mio bets, 4.32 mio BTC wagered

13:09:18 b0n1: did he gave any security btc deposit to someone ?

13:09:29 kakobrekla: 60k to john k!

13:09:43 b0n1: is he known by his name?

13:09:53 kakobrekla: who

13:09:57 b0n1: doog

13:09:59 kakobrekla: no

13:10:08 b0n1: fuck, why are people investing so much then?

13:10:11 nubbins`: the same john k who's missing?

13:10:14 kakobrekla: cause bitcointalk.

13:10:28 b0n1: kakobrekla, what do you mean? only because he is a trusted member?

13:10:46 kakobrekla: well, you gotta realize that he has a billion penny investors

13:10:50 kakobrekla: and 2 or 3 big fishes

13:11:04 kakobrekla: there are stats done

13:11:07 kakobrekla: on this matter.

13:12:12 b0n1: billion penny investors?

13:12:22 kakobrekla: which word is confusing you

13:12:23 b0n1: you mean there are only small investors on jd ?

13:12:26 kakobrekla: yes

13:12:35 kakobrekla: the biggest density is at 0.8 btc iirc

13:12:48 b0n1: is there a chart?

13:12:52 kakobrekla: yes

13:13:15 kakobrekla: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/10/146-distribution-of-investor-bitcoin.html

13:13:15 ozbot: Neighbourhood Pool Watch: 14.6 Size matters: Investor bitcoin distribution at Just-Dice.com

13:13:29 MTBmanTT: gm all

13:13:36 kakobrekla: hi

13:13:52 ThickAsThieves: hi

13:14:08 b0n1: thx kakobrekla

13:14:15 kakobrekla: is what i do.

13:15:43 b0n1: i think the threat is maybe not doog running, but someone just taking over the site

13:15:57 b0n1: hackers or fbi

13:16:16 b0n1: kakobrekla, how much are you in?

13:17:10 kakobrekla: in jd? 0

13:17:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6754 @ 0.00082702 = 5.5857 BTC [+]

13:17:53 b0n1: i remember you did once, right?

13:18:54 kakobrekla: not rly

13:19:11 kakobrekla: i did try it out for a day

13:19:13 kakobrekla: thats about it

13:21:07 kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316546.msg3457791#msg3457791

13:21:08 ozbot: [Bitfunder]&[WeExchange] WARNING The Fall of Ukyo!

13:21:13 kakobrekla: srs doenst one ask himself

13:21:17 kakobrekla: is this really worth it

13:24:30 kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129461.msg3426361#msg3426361

13:24:32 ozbot: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate with a bank. This is HUGE

13:24:37 b0n1: is there actually any trustworthy ripple gateway owner?

13:24:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00082769 = 1.5726 BTC [+]

13:24:48 kakobrekla: good job davout, unlike those bitstamp retards

13:24:53 kakobrekla: fuckin i hate their bones.

13:25:23 MTBmanTT: wow nice!

13:25:33 MTBmanTT: that is great news

13:27:14 b0n1: ;;seen davout

13:27:14 gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 0 hours, 48 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <davout> :D

13:29:25 nubbins`: http://imgur.com/KZUMdrn

13:29:25 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

13:29:29 nubbins`: breakfast of champions

13:29:36 nubbins`: and/or fatsos

13:33:05 KRS1: Mmm

13:34:24 nubbins`: beauty of cast iron being that i turned off the stove when i removed the hash browns from the skillet

13:34:30 nubbins`: and cooked the eggs on the residual heat

13:34:51 nubbins`: cleanup is as easy as scrubbing some coarse salt around the pan with a paper towel

13:36:17 nubbins`: i first got into cast iron after learning that the guy who owns javaranch.com is a huge fan: http://www.richsoil.com/cast-iron.jsp

13:36:21 kakobrekla: why the salt

13:36:55 zacm: well i hope you take it one step further and use mining heat to cook your next egg

13:39:36 nubbins`: kako, as an abrasive

13:39:55 nubbins`: removes any stuck-on bits of food

13:40:08 kakobrekla: aha i guess that makes sense

13:40:28 nubbins`: yeah, the idea is that you should avoid letting water (and especially soapy water) touch your cast iron

13:40:53 nubbins`: because it can remove layers of seasoning

13:40:54 kakobrekla: form your link

13:40:55 kakobrekla: 7) avoid soap!

13:40:55 kakobrekla: There is a myth about how you should never use soap on cast iron. Details on that below. The reality is that you can use soap on cast iron, but it is better if you didn't.

13:40:56 kakobrekla: :>

13:42:46 nubbins`: seasoning is crucial to keeping your pan's non-stick properties

13:43:13 nubbins`: for example, when my eggs were finished cooking, i just tilted the pan and they slid right off onto my plate

13:45:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 91 @ 0.0065 = 0.5915 BTC [-]

13:53:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.72287498 = 5.783 BTC [+] {5}

13:54:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.73666663 = 11.05 BTC [+] {5}

13:55:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.735 BTC [-]

13:56:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.73866666 = 4.432 BTC [+] {2}

14:19:19 skinnkavaj: so pankkake

14:19:25 skinnkavaj: You know neobee?

14:20:00 skinnkavaj: (15:15:57) (skinnkavaj) Will you use Litecoin as a hedge against a falling Bitcoin in the future?

14:20:00 skinnkavaj: (15:18:15) (cryptocyprus) It is always a possibility, litecoin is the only alt I have ever bought and sold, if/when Gox integrates litecoin then there will be more liquidity to make it a more suitable hedge

14:22:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 588 @ 0.00109999 = 0.6468 BTC [+]

14:24:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 275 @ 0.0011 = 0.3025 BTC [+] {2}

14:36:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 18 @ 0.00749999 = 0.135 BTC [-]

14:44:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.36489999 = 0.7298 BTC [+]

14:44:59 kakobrekla: oh so some dude on the internet bought AND SOLD ltc, must be the shits!

14:49:34 skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about

14:49:42 kakobrekla: clearly.

14:49:47 kakobrekla: :)

14:49:50 skinnkavaj: Neobee is probably the biggest thing to happen to Bitcoin in a while

14:50:08 kakobrekla: prolly cause of the oracle

14:50:43 skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: Try read here and then stfu

14:50:43 skinnkavaj: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.0

14:50:45 ozbot: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings

14:50:51 kakobrekla: try lurk moar and stfu now

14:50:55 kakobrekla: mkay

14:51:55 skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: You are in this channel and you have never heard of Neobee. Lol

14:52:07 kakobrekla: thats what you think

14:52:09 skinnkavaj: Please don't open your mouth again.

14:52:17 kakobrekla: lol

14:52:20 kakobrekla: too funny

14:52:59 skinnkavaj: Ask ThickAsThieves what he think about Neobee

14:54:03 kakobrekla: lol

14:54:16 pankkake: why would he ask a thief?

14:55:13 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Are you mocking his name or has he ever stolen?

14:55:42 pankkake: he stole my heart

14:58:25 skinnkavaj: So LTC/USD up 30% in a week

14:59:10 kakobrekla: negative fucks given.

14:59:32 skinnkavaj: kakobrekla: Please no one gives a fuck what you think anymore

14:59:48 kakobrekla: and everyone wants to hear your opinion

14:59:57 skinnkavaj: I get asked a lot.

15:00:08 kakobrekla: which dimension are we in today?

15:00:35 kakobrekla: skinnkavaj i havent seen a single person asking you for anything

15:01:16 kakobrekla: mosty its "get lost newb" from what i saw

15:02:18 kakobrekla: feel free to point to the line on the log where that what you are saying happend happens...

15:06:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.719 = 1.438 BTC [-] {2}

15:09:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3769996 = 0.754 BTC [+]

15:10:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.37699986 = 5.655 BTC [+] {3}

15:11:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.377 = 2.639 BTC [+] {2}

15:14:40 kakobrekla: b0n1, since you started it, is TFs real name known also?

15:18:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+]

15:20:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.74023999 = 18.506 BTC [+] {3}

15:21:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.77274999 = 3.091 BTC [+] {3}

15:22:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00678968 = 0.2308 BTC [+] {3}

15:23:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 480 @ 0.00683114 = 3.2789 BTC [+] {6}

15:25:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0070033 = 0.2101 BTC [+] {2}

15:40:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00082721 = 9.4302 BTC [-]

15:51:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [+]

15:53:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.82 = 1.64 BTC [+]

15:56:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [+]

15:59:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.00706451 = 0.438 BTC [+] {2}

16:00:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.0071 = 0.7952 BTC [+] {3}

16:06:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.80000013 = 14.4 BTC [-] {3}

16:06:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00722 = 0.13 BTC [+]

16:07:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.80000002 = 2.4 BTC [-]

16:12:12 nubbins`: <skinnkavaj> (15:18:15) (cryptocyprus) It is always a possibility, litecoin is the only alt I have ever bought and sold, if/when Gox integrates litecoin then there will be more liquidity to make it a more suitable hedge

16:12:28 nubbins`: ^ guy takes this to mean "yeah LTC is totally legit, you've been right this whole time!"

16:12:45 nubbins`: failing to realize that "it is always a possibility" is just a polite way of saying no

16:13:14 pankkake: litecoiners love to ask everyone to support litecoin it seems

16:13:32 nubbins`: it is always a possibility that i will head down to my basement, grab a claw hammer, and smash my dick with it

16:13:45 nubbins`: doesn't mean my wife should put 911 on speed-dial

16:13:47 pankkake: you'll need dick surgery

16:13:51 nubbins`: HEH

16:14:01 nubbins`: i'm having dick surgery later this evening, actually

16:14:51 deadweasel: she's not supposed to use her teeth...

16:15:05 nubbins`: that whole exchange between skinnsjfakdjfj and kako earlier was pretty lelly

16:15:31 deadweasel: yup. skinny so sensitive.

16:15:35 deadweasel: think skin

16:15:38 deadweasel: thin*

16:15:45 deadweasel: definitly not THINK skin

16:15:59 BingoBoingo: Yeah, I can't wait till skinnkavaj skins his dick and wears it like a sock for LTC

16:16:05 nubbins`: <kakobrekla> and everyone wants to hear your opinion <skinnkavaj> I get asked a lot.

16:16:07 nubbins`: my sides, etc

16:16:50 deadweasel: 'people ALWAYS be askin' my opinion bro! I'm like the bitcoin oracle...'

16:17:12 deadweasel: 'You don't know neobee!!!?? Fooooooool! You so dumb!'

16:17:18 deadweasel: my god, it was funny

16:23:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.06122199 = 0.3061 BTC [-]

16:23:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [-]

16:24:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.705 = 1.41 BTC [-] {2}

16:32:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 143 @ 0.00269997 = 0.3861 BTC [+]

16:33:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1253 @ 0.00269998 = 3.3831 BTC [+] {2}

16:34:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1098 @ 0.00269998 = 2.9646 BTC [+] {3}

16:35:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 205 @ 0.00269999 = 0.5535 BTC [+] {2}

16:42:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.86874999 = 3.475 BTC [+] {2}

16:43:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.0027 = 0.1458 BTC [+]

16:45:34 nubbins`: ^ skinnkavaj buying shares

16:47:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00082721 = 11.7464 BTC [-]

16:47:49 pankkake: good for him

16:52:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 750 @ 0.00067411 = 0.5056 BTC [+] {6}

16:54:18 pankkake: :|

16:59:03 nubbins`: to the pluto

16:59:22 nubbins`: i wonder at what point leaving earth becomes a bad thing?

16:59:28 nubbins`: i mean, the moon alone is pretty goddamn far away

17:00:38 KRS1: nubbins: that sugery will be hard on you

17:06:31 nubbins`: i do tend to sweat a lot during dick surgery

17:11:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.86749999 = 3.47 BTC [-] {2}

17:12:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.37699999 = 0.754 BTC [-] {2}

17:13:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.06099999 = 0.122 BTC [-]

17:14:30 nubbins`: heh, "asicminer cube"

17:14:33 nubbins`: sweet

17:15:02 nubbins`: it only needs to feed like 200W of free electricity back into the grid in order to be profitable!

17:15:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 15 @ 0.00696666 = 0.1045 BTC [-] {3}

17:17:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1842 @ 0.00109999 = 2.0262 BTC [+]

17:18:01 nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323077.msg3461106#msg3461106

17:18:03 ozbot: [Havelock] The Panama Fund, S.A. Acquires HavelockInvestments.com

17:18:08 nubbins`: "Can you imagine how the world would react if the US decided that another countries laws were incorrect and they have to comply?"

17:18:16 nubbins`: ....yes, i can imagine that

17:19:02 nubbins`: because it's happened countless times, and nobody ever gave a fuck

17:20:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 46 @ 0.00749999 = 0.345 BTC [-]

17:24:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 237 @ 0.00699054 = 1.6568 BTC [+] {3}

17:37:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00709097 = 0.7304 BTC [+] {2}

17:41:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [+]

17:43:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 0.06099999 = 0.305 BTC [-] {2}

17:46:13 Vp7771: anybody following the neobee announcements?

17:46:46 Vp7771: wasn't there supposed to be an announcement of a big customer besides mpesa?

17:49:12 Vp7771: oh just found the neobee chat, nvm

17:52:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00082705 = 12.1576 BTC [-] {2}

18:14:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.007 = 0.336 BTC [-]

18:28:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00082769 = 2.7314 BTC [+]

18:46:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14871 @ 0.00082482 = 12.2659 BTC [-] {3}

18:54:31 benkay: twerk miley miley miley miley miley

18:59:41 deadweasel: is that your pig-call benkay ?

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19:04:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.007 = 0.161 BTC [+]

19:06:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1988 @ 0.00082287 = 1.6359 BTC [-]

19:20:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.0605 = 0.1815 BTC [+]

19:34:07 KRS1: heh

19:35:48 benkay: deadweasel: http://rapgenius.com/Jay-z-somewhereinamerica-lyrics#note-1942412

19:36:22 KRS1: jay-z..heh..i've seen local rap artists better than him.

19:36:41 KRS1: he has had a few really good hits other than that...meh.

19:36:49 KRS1: but that is just my opinion

19:37:01 benkay: "artists"

19:37:13 benkay: still just moving product.

19:37:56 benkay: i've yet to meet the artist who's a better capitalist than the jiggaman.

19:38:20 mircea_popescu: i thought rapper guys did it for the principle of the thing.

19:39:00 benkay: the artists always do

19:39:06 benkay: the capitalists never do

19:39:43 mircea_popescu: what about dali ?

19:40:28 benkay: what does that have to do with rap?

19:40:52 mircea_popescu: but you said artists/capitalists! was is strictly a rap phenomena ?

19:41:40 benkay: hey man i'm an american idiot

19:41:49 benkay: you can't expect me to have opinions about real art like dali

19:42:21 deadweasel: LSD is Dali.

19:42:22 mircea_popescu: lol. ok, the point here is that while it'd be hard to argue dali wasn't an artist, it's well established he was a capitalist whore

19:42:32 mircea_popescu: to a degree even people like andy warhol seem little babies.

19:43:04 benkay: my point is that rap isn't art. it's a product manufactured for americans.

19:43:22 mircea_popescu: so then no rappers are artists.

19:43:30 mircea_popescu: i can see it.

19:43:38 mod6: benkay: umm...

19:43:41 benkay: some may think they are, in the same way that some americans think they're ceo's when funded by idiots

19:43:49 mircea_popescu: but listen, is painting an art ?

19:43:50 deadweasel: they would probably describe themselves as businessmen.

19:43:58 deadweasel: slingin' and what not

19:44:03 mircea_popescu: or is it a product manufactured for dutch people cca 1700 ? or italians cca 1600 ?

19:44:41 jurov: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6660162 asciilifeform you may want to promote phuctor (i would, but no account)

19:44:53 deadweasel: oh good, hacker news is back up.

19:44:57 pankkake: painting wasn't always art, it was mostly used because we didn't have cameras yet

19:45:13 mircea_popescu: so vacation pictures are art, but rap ain't ?

19:45:31 deadweasel: vacation pictures are torture.

19:45:32 benkay: can't have a reasonable conversation in black and white, mp.

19:45:41 benkay: everything exists on a spectrum.

19:45:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 66 @ 0.0027 = 0.1782 BTC [+]

19:45:58 benkay: mainstream american rap is product. there are rap artists. there are rap producers. there are humans in between.

19:46:11 benkay: some mainstream rap may even be art to some people

19:46:25 benkay: i find some of j's wordplay rather elegant, myself

19:46:37 mircea_popescu: benkay okay, but something has to be something or not be something at some point. otherwise we can't have a conversation at all, outside of ∀ = ∀

19:47:02 benkay: how about an analogue

19:47:23 mircea_popescu: not without an explicit mapping function of some sort.

19:47:35 benkay: is this art or design?

19:47:35 benkay: http://hannahstafford.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/alessibystarck.jpg

19:47:48 mircea_popescu: that's a dildo.

19:47:58 benkay: what is art? what design? what is product? what is art?

19:48:20 mircea_popescu: well, i guess i am writing an article now.

19:48:27 mircea_popescu: isn't life wondercool.

19:48:56 benkay: better you than me. i stopped writing about this highly subjective stuff back when i decided to stop convincing people of things.

19:49:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 195 @ 0.3790815 = 73.9209 BTC [+] {11}

19:50:00 benkay: (it's an orange juicer, for those not in the know)

19:50:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.38 = 0.76 BTC [+]

19:50:50 mircea_popescu: only if by orange you mean peach.

19:51:50 benkay: put a big enough engine on a brick and *presto* i guess you have an orbital insertion vehicle too

20:03:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00082233 = 1.3568 BTC [-]

20:19:56 nubbins`: lel @ art discussion

20:20:45 nubbins`: "real art"

20:20:49 nubbins`: "fake art"

20:21:43 nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YLZc_gDMM

20:21:44 ozbot: An Abstract Look at Art with Jonathan Meese - YouTube

20:22:11 nubbins`: ^ this guy is almost completely, perfectly fucked in the head, but i had a moment of epiphany while watching this interview

20:26:57 KRS1: can someone answer this question- why is the FTC and BTC pair on BTC-E so heavily traded? Big volume has been exchanging there for quite some time.

20:27:07 KRS1: both buying and selling

20:27:29 nubbins`: sorry, no idea

20:27:32 nubbins`: go watch that video

20:28:18 KRS1: ok

20:29:30 _mjoiii: If you watch him on mute it looks like a guy describing pooping in a bucket

20:30:05 _mjoiii: And if you read the subs he admits it

20:31:49 nubbins`: he's very earnest

20:32:29 nubbins`: this "art talks" series is great

20:32:40 nubbins`: this one here got me into silkscreening paper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GWdRIYLUQk

20:39:27 _mjoiii: Pretty sure I just had a flashback with that second one.

20:39:45 nubbins`: amazing art, very inspiring to me

20:39:45 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

20:39:49 _mjoiii: But how?!?

20:40:08 nubbins`: they're called Re:Surgo! these days

20:40:09 _mjoiii: Do people like this support themselves???

20:40:10 nubbins`: http://www.resurgo-berlin.com/

20:40:11 ozbot: Re:Surgo

20:40:21 nubbins`: _mjoiii: those two are world famous

20:40:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00704999 = 0.2467 BTC [-]

20:42:34 nubbins`: at one point marlboro asked them to design cigarette packs

20:43:14 nubbins`: they're in the museum of modern art

20:43:30 nubbins`: etc

20:44:21 _mjoiii: 65 euro? What's that in real money? How much in bitcoin?

20:45:09 _mjoiii: They sell prints of their mistakes?

20:45:18 nubbins`: ~0.435 btc

20:45:30 nubbins`: there are no mistakes, watch the first video i posted ;p

20:46:03 nubbins`: although you'd be surprised to know how much $$ people spend on stacked test prints

20:46:08 _mjoiii: That dude makes me so jealous. To just trip out all day... But the toilet thing..

20:46:24 nubbins`: no need to be jealous, it's 100% within your grasp

20:46:30 nubbins`: hardest part is letting go

20:46:44 _mjoiii: So it made me wonder how he can afford to just buzz like that every day.

20:46:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3064 @ 0.00082011 = 2.5128 BTC [-]

20:46:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 138 @ 0.00079 = 0.109 BTC [+]

20:47:05 _mjoiii: Cause fuck, I can grow my hair.

20:47:11 nubbins`: you'd be surprised how little money you can get by on if you try

20:47:43 nubbins`: i walked away from a stable, high-paying programmer/analyst job this past february to print full-time

20:47:50 nubbins`: and i haven't even had to skip a meal yet

20:48:16 nubbins`: but to be fair that jonathan meese guy is also world famous

20:48:20 nubbins`: and likely very, very wealthy

20:48:43 nubbins`: of course, that probably took decades of hard work, self doubt, and eating from food banks

20:48:47 nubbins`: but ya know

20:49:08 nubbins`: you kinda have to commit if you want to make something

20:49:13 nubbins`: anyway! party time. seeya.

20:49:33 _mjoiii: Later man, some trippy shit

20:57:43 mircea_popescu: benkay http://fraudsters.com/2013/what-is-art/

21:02:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [+]

21:05:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 80000 @ 0.00012799 = 10.2392 BTC [-] {7}

21:06:34 KRS1: certainly not Jay-Z

21:06:41 KRS1: but thats my opinion =D

21:08:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 323 @ 0.00714173 = 2.3068 BTC [+] {4}

21:09:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 131 @ 0.00728618 = 0.9545 BTC [+] {3}

21:10:01 KRS1: what did you program nubbins? IT can be hard to get back into if you are out for a while

21:10:06 kakobrekla: bash just been flushed, i nuked the current points stats cause some idiot decided to write a bot to fuck with that, so i changed the system a bit and well, truncated teh table.

21:11:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.89383333 = 2.6815 BTC [+] {2}

21:12:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.898 = 6.286 BTC [+]

21:14:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 38 @ 0.0074 = 0.2812 BTC [+]

21:19:47 kakobrekla: so feel free to recast your points ktnxbai

21:21:12 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla make it so you can only vote through assbot,

21:21:18 mircea_popescu: and maybe only if registered nick.

21:22:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 176 @ 0.0068 = 1.1968 BTC [-]

21:23:22 benkay: what ams these point?

21:23:32 kakobrekla: thats a thought mp.

21:23:41 kakobrekla: maybe, if teh attacks dont stop

21:24:07 kakobrekla: benkay?

21:25:41 benkay: 'twasn't me.

21:26:20 benkay: -ass has a points/karma thing now?

21:27:01 kakobrekla: bash does have some points im experimenting with i guess

21:28:14 benkay: i am missing so much context

21:28:43 kakobrekla: this thing benkay http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/

21:29:09 benkay: oh that thing

21:30:16 benkay: tee hee

21:37:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.89 BTC [-]

21:39:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00081676 = 5.9623 BTC [-]

21:43:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00749448 = 1.4989 BTC [+] {5}

21:45:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00749998 = 0.75 BTC [+] {2}

21:46:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00749999 = 0.48 BTC [+] {3}

21:46:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]

21:47:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1300 @ 0.00781599 = 10.1608 BTC [+] {9}

21:48:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 87 @ 0.0079 = 0.6873 BTC [+]

22:19:34 mod6: ;;bc,stats

22:19:38 gribble: Current Blocks: 267585 | Current Difficulty: 3.9092878763808584E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 268127 | Next Difficulty In: 542 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 13 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 511493319.444 | Estimated Percent Change: 30.84054

22:36:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 14 @ 0.06122199 = 0.8571 BTC [+]

22:50:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]

22:55:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 126 @ 0.00769998 = 0.9702 BTC [-] {4}

23:03:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 93 @ 0.00799983 = 0.744 BTC [+] {6}

23:04:06 jurov: mhm, satoshidice has hefty Terms&Conditions nao. Of course:" Persons located in or residents of the United States and the United States Territories (the “Prohibited Jurisdictions”) are not permitted make use of the Service."

23:06:39 jurov: i clicked "I disagree" and was let in :D

23:11:28 pankkake: they check as hard as porn sites who ask you if you are 18 I guess

23:12:56 skinnkavaj: So LTC up 10% only today.

23:14:17 wao-wiggen: lol:D

23:16:37 benkay: skinnkavaj: what do these percents imply?

23:17:54 pankkake: who cares. it was still better to sell earlier, which you should have done instead of getting all butthurt

23:18:08 skinnkavaj: pankkake: I am not daytrading

23:18:10 pankkake: and now you're all day wishful thinking

23:18:14 skinnkavaj: I hold my LTC longterm

23:18:40 pankkake: it's not about days

23:19:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00819242 = 0.8192 BTC [+] {6}

23:19:28 pankkake: I have plenty of time to buy back if there ever is a reason. and here you're just bragging about daily little changes

23:20:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3794 @ 0.00081891 = 3.1069 BTC [+] {2}

23:20:57 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Trust me you are gonna buy in when it's too high already

23:21:14 skinnkavaj: I am spending all my LTC

23:21:20 skinnkavaj: Sent a mail to bitcoinity.org

23:21:29 skinnkavaj: about doing an litecoinity version if I pay him

23:21:42 skinnkavaj: Also hiring developers for new blockchain.info server with goal of making it better + LTC support

23:21:50 benkay: amazing mail!

23:21:50 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

23:22:06 skinnkavaj: I know

23:22:20 pankkake: well litecoin certainly needs decent websites and alternative clients

23:22:23 skinnkavaj: He replied he will think about it

23:22:33 benkay: what's your budget, skinnkavaj?

23:22:34 skinnkavaj: He was on holiday

23:22:37 pankkake: I mean it looks like there isn't even a web wallet

23:22:44 skinnkavaj: benkay: Why are you asking

23:23:25 benkay: always got my ears out for a new hustle

23:23:29 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Next friday I will launch a Litecoin service which will be kept secrete until it's live

23:23:44 pankkake: me too

23:23:51 benkay: i'll secrete something

23:24:08 benkay: your secretions are safe with -assets

23:24:42 skinnkavaj: The secret is not that I am launching a litecoin service

23:24:45 skinnkavaj: Everyone could guess

23:25:00 skinnkavaj: That

23:25:59 benkay: from the ceaseless litecoin hype frothing from your face?

23:26:06 benkay: naw.

23:26:06 skinnkavaj: Correct.

23:26:24 skinnkavaj: benkay: Show me what you have developed earlier

23:26:44 skinnkavaj: pankkake: Armory and Trezor is coming with LTC support

23:26:50 skinnkavaj: Looking forward to that

23:27:36 pankkake: source? especially for Armory which I follow closely

23:27:48 skinnkavaj: It's not like LTC is going away anytime soon. LTC is here to stay as long as BTC is here to stay. Then we might have another competing coin that take over in the future, but that will take a lot of time even if its better than BTC/LTC.

23:28:21 pankkake: come on, stop with the empty "here to say" and "not going away", this means nothing

23:28:53 pankkake: https://github.com/etotheipi/BitcoinArmory/issues/32

23:33:37 pankkake: and copying every bitcoin service isn't enough - why use it if it has no clear advantage?

23:33:50 pankkake: this always fail on the "why"

23:33:58 benkay: haven't you heard, it has mining for the undercapitalized

23:35:18 skinnkavaj: pankkake: If you think LTC will be dead in one year you must be blind. I feel sorry for you.

23:35:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [-]

23:35:52 pankkake: it's bitcoin for people who want to be early adopter or want to use their gaming pcs, which is bad enough. but even ignoring that, I don't see anything compelling

23:36:09 pankkake: "dead" is also an empty statement

23:36:19 benkay: and 1 year an arbitrary timeframe

23:36:35 benkay: all wrapped in a lovely strawman

23:36:47 pankkake: but perhaps you should look at the history of altcoins

23:36:57 pankkake: and feelings shouldn't have anything to do with that

23:37:32 skinnkavaj: pankkake: LTC is the first good copy cat of BTC. And like everyone know the first copycat always succeeds, while the others fail. Look at feathercoin, I don't see any future there.

23:38:24 skinnkavaj: It's important for the development to not become to corrupt, to have two strong open source currencies.

23:38:30 pankkake: I hope your ltc "investment" decision has better foundations than that "everyone know"

23:38:47 pankkake: …and you do not understand how Bitcoin works

23:38:55 pankkake: or open source for the matter

23:39:47 skinnkavaj: OH yes I do, but I still see it's possible to infiltrate and try to destroy innovation even when it's open sourced.

23:39:48 pankkake: open source is already a protection against developers being corrupt. you don't have to have a fork of every open source software to keep the developers in check. that would be insane

23:40:08 pankkake: it happens when needed

23:40:24 pankkake: but bitcoin is even harder to corrupt

23:40:28 benkay: but pankkake that doesn't prevent to corrupt innovate

23:40:55 pankkake: changes have to be approved by the majority of the p2p network and even harder, the network

23:41:11 pankkake: the miners*

23:41:40 kakobrekla: just the pool ops really

23:41:51 pankkake: pools can lose their miners

23:42:19 pankkake: is there an altcoin list by date of introduction?

23:42:24 kakobrekla: but miners are people and people are stupid

23:42:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00276 = 0.138 BTC [-]

23:43:37 skinnkavaj: pankkake: There was like 5-6 altcoins launched before LTC, but none of them were really good. One was premined, one was scrypt but not premined, LTC was the one that won. Now I am only waiting for the third coin, but that will take a lot of time to be decided.

23:44:17 kakobrekla: you know what, i think you should talk to ozbot some more.

23:44:48 pankkake: or pircea_momescu

23:44:49 jurov: ;;seen ozbot

23:44:50 gribble: ozbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <ozbot> Re:Surgo

23:45:54 skinnkavaj: Omg LTC/USD 2.6

23:46:01 skinnkavaj: When is this minibubble crashing

23:46:23 pankkake: there was a lot of hype about solidcoin IIRC. actually, it put me off bitcoin at that time. where is it now?

23:46:52 pankkake: I thought you were not daytrading

23:46:59 skinnkavaj: I am not

23:47:14 pankkake: why watch the price all the time?

23:47:14 kakobrekla: pankkake hes just a trolliar

23:47:26 jurov: pankkake iirc it was revealed as scam

23:50:01 skinnkavaj: Daytrading is a fool's game pankkake.

23:50:31 pankkake: I am not arguing for it, I am not weathly enough to make it worthwile anyway

23:50:40 skinnkavaj: But tbh sounds stupid to buy into LTC when it's already high pankkake, that sounds like a really stupid plan.

23:52:09 pankkake: that bot is an ass