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00:03:17 thestringpuller: cazalla: http://8ch.net/pol/res/3496134.html#q3497967 << TIL he shills for Ubuntu

00:12:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13453 @ 0.00066357 = 8.927 BTC [-] {4}

00:13:55 cazalla: thestringpuller, could be the least of it!

00:30:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7240 @ 0.00066303 = 4.8003 BTC [-]

00:49:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.0006654 = 2.3622 BTC [+]

01:30:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14587 @ 0.00066124 = 9.6455 BTC [-] {5}

01:41:52 mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 it's just standard confirmation time. the problem with technology is that it works a certain way, which people actually understand. users, however, which are eminently NOT people, but fucking animals, don't care about all that. instead they "try" things, and then "come to expect" on the basis of you know, two attempts last Sunday. and then get all aggitated if their unfounded, poorly researched, biased, badl

01:41:52 mircea_popescu: y conducted experiments get contradicted by practice down the line.

01:41:57 mircea_popescu: and want "someone to do something about it".

01:42:04 mircea_popescu: ie, something else than hit them over the head.

01:42:54 mircea_popescu: this is incidentally exactly how does cross the road.

01:44:04 mircea_popescu: cazalla time to troll with http://fraudsters.com/2013/nobody-could-have-foreseen-their-using-a-plane-like-a-rocket/ ?

01:44:05 assbot: Nobody could have foreseen their using a plane like a rocket on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KYL7D2 )

01:45:13 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the "took bitch shopping, now she gotta earn it" line, http://40.media.tumblr.com/9b5daf5e77e71674d4eab1a34b11d1a5/tumblr_nii067lpb81u4e2kko1_1280.jpg

01:45:14 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KYLcqg )

02:10:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00065882 = 3.1953 BTC [-] {2}

02:21:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00066517 = 5.1883 BTC [+] {3}

02:26:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37500 @ 0.00065867 = 24.7001 BTC [-] {5}

02:31:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00065822 = 6.5822 BTC [-]

02:33:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00065785 = 8.7494 BTC [-] {3}

02:57:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11487 @ 0.00065619 = 7.5377 BTC [-] {3}

03:00:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00065822 = 1.119 BTC [+]

03:09:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00066543 = 4.9575 BTC [+] {4}

03:46:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00066511 = 1.696 BTC [-]

04:16:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00065283 = 2.546 BTC [-]

04:20:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8999 @ 0.00065288 = 5.8753 BTC [+] {2}

04:21:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8601 @ 0.00066388 = 5.71 BTC [+]

04:49:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00065563 = 2.5242 BTC [-]

05:06:38 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290740 << whatevereth goeth upeth, musteth cometh downeth ?

05:06:38 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 10:45:22; mircea_popescu: holy shit what happened to mpoe!

05:08:55 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290756 << myup. and waaay too many kids in north america, be they full size or as yet to sexually mature, are in the happy happy happy cargocamp. it's pretty sad.

05:08:55 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 11:25:07; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2015#1290441 << this is generally the heuristic for a good place inhabited by smart people. when you're among derps happy to be there you're on a sinking cargo cultship.

05:11:55 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290779 << how could la ancien regime americane not want a third bush ? he knows how to play the part. he's seen it done. imo it'll be a close contest between trump and jeb. no one else has a chance. but it's jeb's to lose. trump has to stay out in front of the spotlight being outrageous day in and day out FOR ANOTHER YEAR, which is nigh on impossible. i give trump a

05:11:55 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 11:34:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2015#1290575 << yeah it apparently favours jebbush! whodda thunkit.

05:11:56 pete_dushenski: 25% chance.

05:13:36 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290810 << mp in i) paradise with osama, ii) playboy mansion 'grotto', or iii) volcano island with his own head carved in the side à la dr. evil.

05:13:36 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 13:26:49; mircea_popescu: all i see r nekkid womenz.

05:15:09 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290898 << and here i was using goat feta all this time. i need to get out more.

05:15:09 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 16:11:55; mircea_popescu: psa : brie is THE omlette cheese.

05:15:39 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290912 << cute *and* quick on the uptake. bravo.

05:15:39 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 16:28:45; AgentScully: http://i.imgur.com/KhqfZ0y.jpg

05:16:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10902 @ 0.00065018 = 7.0883 BTC [-] {2}

05:17:25 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290944 << one of the saddest casualties of disfunctional technology i've heard of in ages. like a mother typing her dying words to her son (in irc, naturally) and having her keyboard fritz out. or something.

05:17:25 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 16:37:15; AgentScully: ah, yeah, I had an orgasm right as the server went down... nik was rather sad about it

05:17:26 cazalla: dunno, looks a bit androgynous but nice tits anyway

05:18:22 pete_dushenski: cazalla like the ancient greek army general ? ya think ?

05:19:28 cazalla: pete_dushenski, yeah, but that can be a sexy look too.. think winona ryder with short hair

05:22:05 pete_dushenski: "For what has she these Grecian arms bestow'd, But their destruction, and the Trojans' good? Then change we shields, and their devices bear: Let fraud supply the want of force in war. They find us arms.' This said, himself he dress'd In dead Androgeos' spoils, his upper vest, His painted buckler, and his plumy crest."

05:23:20 pete_dushenski: ~virgil's aeneid

05:24:13 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290967 << lol! orcs are rich, smart, funny, and handsome, just ask them !

05:24:13 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 17:00:35; mircea_popescu: if you ask them.

05:24:41 cazalla: could've just linked the song pete

05:25:03 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-02-2015#1012177 << o hey another pr client

05:25:03 assbot: Logged on 08-02-2015 00:20:13; adlai: ben_vulpes: context is http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2014#913052, the thing is usable, i'm trying to get people to use it. maybe not the most tactful, but i don't have my own pr lady (yet)

05:25:34 pete_dushenski: cazalla i dun do woulda/coulda/shoulda

05:25:55 cazalla: certainly do edgy!

05:27:05 pete_dushenski: ;P

05:27:41 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291019 << don't forget mike_c, davout, etc etc.

05:27:41 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 19:22:19; ascii_field: iirc only ben_vulpes, mod6, and pete_dushenski had children

05:28:06 pete_dushenski: and cazalla !

05:28:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00065646 = 10.8316 BTC [+] {3}

05:29:49 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291042 << i certainly found them sexy when i was younger. strangely, less so now.

05:29:49 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 19:44:52; AgentScully: piercings are old... those were a pain in the ass

05:30:07 pete_dushenski: nips in particular, that is.

05:30:31 pete_dushenski: i dunno wtf is with this nasal septum piercing fad sweeping the four corners of the fucking globe but it's abhorrent.

05:30:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14769 @ 0.00066398 = 9.8063 BTC [+] {4}

05:31:17 pete_dushenski: unless you want to end up in the bull-fighting ring chasing after the red cape being waved by the man yelling 'toro!', why bother ?

05:32:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3181 @ 0.00066856 = 2.1267 BTC [+]

05:33:36 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291119 << ew. diesel.

05:33:36 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 21:07:40; mircea_popescu: an' a little something for pete, too http://40.media.tumblr.com/a06dc1b6a39dbc7a671858169c3d9551/tumblr_njbmd4Lqy61u72nmco1_1280.jpg

05:34:46 pete_dushenski: http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a26891/the-end-of-diesel/ << speaking of which, the only automotive journalist with half a head, jack baruth, quoting chaucer and calling for the end of diesel in usa

05:34:47 assbot: Why Diesel Needs to Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1L6CN3l )

05:35:37 pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/business/automakers-ask-europe-for-leniency-in-emissions-testing.html << meanwhile, in europistan, automakers are continuing their push for diesel acceptance.

05:35:40 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1L6CTrz )

05:36:09 pete_dushenski: first, it was C02 MATTERS GUISE, which was a convenient trojan horse for black-smoke belching diesels.

05:36:33 pete_dushenski: but since vw sorta blew the lid off things, the only thing left to do is rewrite the regs to be more accomodating.

05:36:53 pete_dushenski: what else, destroy one of the only manufacturing industries extant on the contient ?

05:37:14 pete_dushenski: spend the next decade retooling and reorganising ? uhuh. i think not.

05:38:33 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291125 << in 2023 obama's daughters are on xotika. 'bout it.

05:38:33 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 21:12:50; ben_vulpes: 2023: #bitcoin-assets has migrated to xotika, queue to perform is longer than a human lifespan

05:39:50 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291135 << heh. and the average magazine page is an advertisement for big pharma.

05:39:50 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 21:17:06; mircea_popescu: for that matter, the average painting is a fuzzy gray.

05:41:19 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291179 << ok this wins so much harder than that diesel merc chick. why ? because it was taken not in goatfuckistan, not in eastern yurup where the chicks are hungry, not anything like that, but THREE MINUTES FROM WHERE I GREW UP.

05:41:19 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 01:45:13; mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the "took bitch shopping, now she gotta earn it" line, http://40.media.tumblr.com/9b5daf5e77e71674d4eab1a34b11d1a5/tumblr_nii067lpb81u4e2kko1_1280.jpg

05:41:54 pete_dushenski: this was taken at the south west corner of the west edmonton mall parking lot, right next to the movie theatre and the gun range (!)

05:43:05 pete_dushenski: and for what it's worth, the car looks to be a nissan altima coupe. ~$35k off the dealer lot.

05:43:42 pete_dushenski: actually, you can also see the fantasyland hotel in the background (curtain wall facade) and the waterpark (dome roof at right)

05:44:10 pete_dushenski: it's just a shame i don't recognise the girl...

05:44:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1528 @ 0.00066856 = 1.0216 BTC [+]

05:46:27 cazalla: pete_dushenski, few more of same girl, same area http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135567&page=202

05:46:29 assbot: Girls with Cars - Page 202 - Yellow Bullet Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1L6EDkD )

05:46:37 pete_dushenski: west edmonton mall, for a number of years, held the record at the world's largest indoor shopping mall. still holds several worlds records iirc.

05:47:46 pete_dushenski: just checked, wem still boasts 'world's largest indoor amusement park' including 'world's largest indoor triple roller coaster', and also 'world's largest parking lot'

05:48:22 pete_dushenski: cazalla aha. clearly altima coupe now. what do i win ?

05:49:03 cazalla: not sure, but that sure is uncanny, wonder what the odds are of someone posting a pic of a chick naked in a car park you know of

05:50:06 pete_dushenski: ikr! 99% of them are in rural bulgaria or some shit.

05:50:22 pete_dushenski: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3q54cQxJ2UQ/UwzYNpOYE2I/AAAAAAAAAPE/mOxvdmZICi8/w1280-h852-no/por.jpg << nice ride.

05:50:23 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L6Fi5G )

05:50:36 pete_dushenski: ^from same forum

05:56:51 mircea_popescu: !up deface

06:00:43 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> and cazalla ! << and mike and peter and so on.

06:02:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7789 @ 0.00065802 = 5.1253 BTC [-]

06:03:09 mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> this was taken at the south west corner of the west edmonton mall parking lot, right next to the movie theatre and the gun range (!) << so cool huh.

06:04:44 pete_dushenski: crazy small world, this internet

06:05:21 pete_dushenski: ima send this pic around and see if anyone knows her. there aren't ~that~ many degrees of separation between her and i

06:05:53 mircea_popescu: she's not THAT hot and the pic is ~5 yo by now.

06:09:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6736 @ 0.00064928 = 4.3736 BTC [-] {3}

06:10:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2864 @ 0.00064843 = 1.8571 BTC [-]

06:10:38 mircea_popescu: What other reason is there to love fuel oil? Certainly not the characteristics of the chemical itself. It's slippery, it stinks to high heaven, it doesn't evaporate. <<

06:10:56 mircea_popescu: derps shouldn't get a vote srsly. whosever can't appreciate the scent of diesel is neither a man nor allowed to discuss cars.

06:11:24 mircea_popescu: you don't have to love it, or even like it. just like you don't have to love beer - god knows i don't. but if you're not capable to APPRECIATE it you're really not in this movie.

06:12:15 punkman: pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290898 << and here i was using goat feta all this time. i need to get out more. < I agree, crumbled feta is teh best omelette cheese.

06:12:15 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 16:11:55; mircea_popescu: psa : brie is THE omlette cheese.

06:12:46 mircea_popescu: it's certainly not bad.

06:12:58 punkman: I'd say the same about brie :P

06:13:13 mircea_popescu: also in the same vein, pine bark aged smoked sheep cheese (romanian thing, dunno if they do it anywhere else)

06:13:14 punkman: how do you cut brie for the omlett?

06:13:16 mircea_popescu: neverthless...

06:13:43 mircea_popescu: punkman i actually used thin metal wire.

06:13:52 punkman: like what shape I mean

06:13:57 mircea_popescu: thin long slices

06:15:22 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu baruth is a bit of a troll. he's baiting here. and hooking 'em too by the looks of the comments.

06:15:33 mircea_popescu: aha.

06:15:50 mircea_popescu: it'snot even true that "everyone in europe = diesel". and it;s not true that "because regulation", either.

06:15:51 punkman: queso de cabra is also fun in omelette, even has a rind similar to brie

06:15:59 pete_dushenski: sorta playing the idiot as a means of catalysing 'debate'

06:16:23 punkman: generally all the professional drivers have diesel around here.

06:16:35 mircea_popescu: what happens is that throughout the 90s, diesel fuel was 50% the price of gasoline, and gpl conversion was not a mass market thing like it is now. you could get it, like you could get nox.

06:16:49 mircea_popescu: because of this, some of the smartest automotive engineers went into diesel. it looked like the future.

06:16:50 pete_dushenski: punkman professional as in truck/lorry drivers ?

06:16:57 punkman: pete_dushenski: also taxis

06:17:04 pete_dushenski: aha right.

06:17:08 mircea_popescu: because of this, the diesels available were WAY better. it's not that "built to higher specs". it's that built by better people. substantially better.

06:17:26 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu also more expensive. bigger design budget

06:17:55 mircea_popescu: for this reason.

06:17:56 pete_dushenski: giving better people just a bit more money to play with and voila.

06:17:59 mircea_popescu: yup

06:18:11 mircea_popescu: regulation played catchup to all this.

06:18:13 pete_dushenski: not ~too~ much money, obviously. this, we know

06:18:36 mircea_popescu: anyway. by now upwards of 2/3 of taxis actually run on compressed gas. way cheaper defo cleanner.

06:18:46 mircea_popescu: much worse power curve of course, but fuck that, they're taxis.

06:19:10 pete_dushenski: 2/3 across europe ?

06:20:23 mircea_popescu: pretty much.

06:20:38 pete_dushenski: compressed gas adoption was growing quite steadily in n.a. the last ~5 years.

06:20:47 punkman: at least where there is gas pipe

06:21:01 pete_dushenski: but now that gas/diesel prices have tanked, cng has been massacred.

06:21:04 mircea_popescu: punkman it's really gpl not natural gas. they truck it.

06:21:15 mircea_popescu: ;;google linde

06:21:16 gribble: The Linde Group | Gases Engineering Healthcare |: http://www.linde.com/en/index.html; Home | Linde US Industrial Gases: http://www.lindeus.com/en/index.html; The Linde Group: Home: http://www.the-linde-group.com/en/index.html

06:21:56 punkman: I want a gas kitchen/stove but I'd have to refill tanks which kinda sucks

06:22:44 mircea_popescu: anyway, re the cheese, as apparently it's unknown other than "that south transylvanian cheese" : sheepmilk cheese is cut up thinly, salt is added and ths is mixed (often, by hand). the result is placed in a tube made out of pine bark. it may or may not be smoked. it can also be placed in a sheep's stomach. inthis arrangement it keeps indefinitely, it is geenraly consumed after about a year.

06:22:57 mircea_popescu: gets stronger the longer it waits, of course, but the salt doesn't get it runny.

06:23:12 pete_dushenski: punkman i have a propane bbq but only because 45 year-old condos don't have natural gas lines here. most houses do though.

06:23:16 mircea_popescu: (salt content is a function of intended maturation period, the longer you wanna keep it around the saltier. still, within some bounds)

06:23:34 mircea_popescu: punkman iirc they bury a 20-50 cubic metre tank for you if you ask.

06:24:28 punkman: maybe when they start drilling for oil/gas south of the island

06:24:42 mircea_popescu: course greece (esp stuff like crete) is a bit of an outlier. no gas lines, which is unheard of in yurp, and no real need to heat.

06:25:27 mircea_popescu: but otherwise, heating off the damned tank with ferried gas etc is still cheaper than using electricity.

06:25:42 punkman: I use maybe 500L of heating oil in the winter, yeah

06:26:08 mircea_popescu: now think "nordic system".

06:26:16 pete_dushenski: actually, can someone with a twitter account (danielpbarron, shinohai, whoever gets to it first) please to send @jackbaruth this : http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/01/in-which-volkswagen-takes-aim-at-the-insanity-of-statal-overbearing/ i think he'd enjoy it.

06:26:17 assbot: In which Volkswagen takes aim at the insanity of statal overbearing. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcJNBH )

06:26:51 mircea_popescu: in other news, construction stamp. http://41.media.tumblr.com/57cb873df2b619a3803fbe2fb269b477/tumblr_nisuqsK5Jv1u72nmco1_1280.jpg

06:26:53 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcJQh5 )

06:27:44 pete_dushenski: dusty bottom girl > soggy bottom boys

06:28:11 mircea_popescu: you've clearly never had sand go up there.

06:29:02 pete_dushenski: my aesthetic sensibilities care not for the practical considerations of tumblr hos

06:29:19 mircea_popescu: lolk

06:30:38 pete_dushenski: and while i've had my fun on the beach in puerto vallarta, god invented beach chairs for a reason !

06:30:50 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zuyq-W71gQ nordic system

06:30:50 assbot: Elektronik Meditation - Oslo - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcKawf )

06:32:54 pete_dushenski: "After the release of iOS 9.0.2 on Wednesday, which fixed a number of bugs including a lock screen exploit, Apple stopped signing iOS 8.4.1 and iOS 9.0 firmware for compatible devices, prohibiting users who updated from downgrading." << no going backwards !

06:38:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064772 = 7.384 BTC [-] {3}

06:39:32 mircea_popescu: "If I sell you a few kilograms of depleted uranium and you use it to create a dirty bomb that renders most of the East Coast inhabitable, how is that my fault?"

06:39:40 mircea_popescu: dude buttcoin's utterly running out of steam.

06:41:35 pete_dushenski: https://uofa.ualberta.ca/news-and-events/newsarticles/2015/september/remembering-louis-desrochers << i'll be singing at louis desrocher's funeral on tuesday, (which, ftr, is very different from 'dancing on his grave'). it's a choir thing actually, and he was apparently a huge fan of the one i'm in, personally requesting our presence when the day came. i'd actually never heard of him previously, but he seems to

06:41:38 assbot: Remembering Louis Desrochers - University of Alberta ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcL1gs )

06:41:38 pete_dushenski: have been quite the political heavyweight. i'm expecting it to be quite a splashy affair.

06:41:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3290 @ 0.00066804 = 2.1979 BTC [+] {2}

06:42:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00066929 = 5.7894 BTC [+]

06:43:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17861 @ 0.0006707 = 11.9794 BTC [+] {2}

06:44:04 mircea_popescu: "The lack of transparency and regulatory oversight raises a number of risks for users and also poses risks for the payments system, the integrity of the financial system and the erosion of the tax base.

06:44:10 mircea_popescu: mwahahah. o yeah it does. and fuck you.

06:45:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3903 @ 0.00067267 = 2.6254 BTC [+]

06:47:27 pete_dushenski: and now, your moment of zen : "I investigate self-reported theft data in the NLSY 1997 Cohort for the years 1997–2011. Several striking patterns emerge. First, individuals appear to be active thieves for extremely short periods – in most cases in only one year, and fewer than 5% of thieves for more than three years out of the 15 years of data. Second, self-reported earnings from theft are generally very low and

06:47:27 pete_dushenski: there is little evidence of “successful” criminals or consistent earnings from theft." << because only loser criminals waste their time on derpy 'scientific studies'. self-selecting much ?

06:47:33 pete_dushenski: well, tomorrow's another day, gnite y'all !

06:49:40 mircea_popescu: mno. it actually is a shitty earner.

06:50:26 mircea_popescu: the car theft thing was very briefly +ev, right after fall of su when a lot of otherwise powerful and important people didn't have their power and importance correctly credentialled by the western pencildicks

06:50:47 mircea_popescu: (echos of this problem are seen in patent nonsense like "embagro russia" that so miserably backfired last year)

06:51:12 mircea_popescu: things normalized by 1995 or so, which is why this is a derp field now.

06:52:19 mircea_popescu: it is conceivable, if the same pencildicks keep on with the tail up, "regulate" blablabla that we WILL have a market in stolen daughters traded around to prove a point for a few years.

06:52:30 mircea_popescu: tho honestly, i do not currently believe the old fucks actulaly have it in them.

06:53:33 mircea_popescu: anyway, /me bbl

06:54:54 punkman: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-01/the-delinquent-borrowers-leading-a-student-loans-revolt

06:54:54 assbot: The Delinquent Borrowers Leading a Student Loans Revolt - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcM4wT )

07:11:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00064498 = 4.1924 BTC [-]

07:17:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00064619 = 5.1695 BTC [+]

07:18:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10075 @ 0.00065861 = 6.6355 BTC [+]

07:36:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1565 @ 0.00064524 = 1.0098 BTC [-] {2}

07:52:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00064177 = 8.3751 BTC [-]

08:23:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00064147 = 4.811 BTC [-] {2}

08:26:29 Naphex: i didn't know psychadelic shows were a thing (https://xotika.tv/#/channel280/Fluxable)

08:26:32 Naphex: they look awesome

08:48:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00064351 = 8.0117 BTC [+] {2}

08:52:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00064147 = 7.6976 BTC [-]

09:10:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3061 @ 0.00064407 = 1.9715 BTC [+]

09:17:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00064147 = 8.6278 BTC [-]

09:26:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4125 @ 0.00064147 = 2.6461 BTC [-]

09:29:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00063801 = 8.0389 BTC [-] {2}

09:44:54 trinque: dude, I leave for a weekend and a chick with great tits from TX shows up called AgentScully WITH THINKPADS

09:45:17 trinque: (all of #b-a replies "LEAVE MORE OFTEN!")

09:46:26 *: trinque is in Denver about to snooze; the pass through from Wyoming tried to kill me with fog and slippery roads, but I bested them

09:47:56 trinque: and I'll tell you what; this country is gorgeous. It'd be quite a nice place under new management.

10:01:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00063625 = 9.9255 BTC [-] {4}

10:09:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00064287 = 8.518 BTC [+]

10:18:16 trinque: b

10:18:29 trinque: damn you tmux.

10:18:32 *: trinque zzzzz

10:45:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00063329 = 1.4566 BTC [-]

10:50:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00063082 = 5.9297 BTC [-]

11:04:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5432 @ 0.00062644 = 3.4028 BTC [-] {2}

11:11:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7916 @ 0.00062393 = 4.939 BTC [-] {3}

11:35:06 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288642 << even those with severely limited time to actually sit infront of the game can participate through constantly running crafting/mining scripts while away

11:35:06 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 16:26:56; mike_c: yeah.. my available gaming time is down to nil right now. Busy working on a sekrit project.

11:42:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00052947 = 3.4945 BTC [-]

12:13:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00052366 = 6.3887 BTC [-]

12:28:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2814 @ 0.00051032 = 1.436 BTC [-]

12:50:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00050017 = 3.4762 BTC [-]

13:20:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7435 @ 0.00042742 = 3.1779 BTC [-]

13:22:49 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291326 << https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/650631044241170432

13:22:49 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 06:26:16; pete_dushenski: actually, can someone with a twitter account (danielpbarron, shinohai, whoever gets to it first) please to send @jackbaruth this : http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/01/in-which-volkswagen-takes-aim-at-the-insanity-of-statal-overbearing/ i think he'd enjoy it.

13:25:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9559 @ 0.00043858 = 4.1924 BTC [+]

13:26:51 mats: it falls

13:34:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34528 @ 0.00043294 = 14.9486 BTC [-] {3}

13:35:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20156 @ 0.00037815 = 7.622 BTC [-] {2}

13:56:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00036621 = 2.9297 BTC [+]

14:00:41 punkman: -50% today huh

14:04:32 punkman: !d m s.mpoe

14:04:48 mircea_popescu: o.O

14:05:46 mats: discount sunday

14:06:08 punkman: !t m s.mpoe

14:06:08 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0003452 / 0.00062888 / 0.000685 (787444 shares, 495.21 BTC), 7D: 0.0003452 / 0.00070028 / 0.00073317 (12175216 shares, 8,526.17 BTC), 30D: 0.0003452 / 0.0007377 / 0.00078144 (68685007 shares, 50,669.20 BTC)

14:07:31 punkman: what happened to empyex

14:07:49 mircea_popescu: he just sorta...faded.

14:08:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00038623 = 5.0982 BTC [+]

14:09:02 mircea_popescu: !up tylersmith

14:09:36 mircea_popescu: <trinque> and I'll tell you what; this country is gorgeous. It'd be quite a nice place under new management. << word. nothing wrong wih the states mostly on the grounds the mob stuck to the coasts.

14:11:17 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQZXLfPWoAAw5_n.png:large

14:11:18 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RoMeAw )

14:12:00 mircea_popescu: aaaand... who asked them anything ?

14:16:17 mircea_popescu: all this timswansonism i swear. "we are so and so" because words and things so we don't have to wot or anything. we could put the nonsense in a pdf if you prefer, that makes it more legit!

14:20:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61229 @ 0.00041502 = 25.4113 BTC [+] {3}

14:21:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29880 @ 0.00050332 = 15.0392 BTC [+] {4}

14:23:15 mircea_popescu: trinque> dude, I leave for a weekend and a chick with great tits from TX shows up called AgentScully WITH THINKPADS << prolly shortlived

14:23:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8891 @ 0.00052 = 4.6233 BTC [+]

14:23:31 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

14:24:58 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291320 << recently, burial of fuel tanks was banned in (most of) usa. ostensibly for enviro-whiner reasons.

14:24:58 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 06:23:34; mircea_popescu: punkman iirc they bury a 20-50 cubic metre tank for you if you ask.

14:25:11 mircea_popescu: well, orclands.

14:25:30 ascii_field: there (and afaik in most of the world) it is still sop.

14:25:58 mircea_popescu: prolly more a "you know what could help real estate values ? if other people couldn't build sane houses anymore"

14:26:06 mircea_popescu: "everybody would be forced to buy ours."

14:26:45 mircea_popescu: the one line on which entrenched rent seeking interest and stupid but unaware youthful enthusiasm meet, is this particular type of idiocy.

14:27:36 ascii_field: my current understanding is that usg has been specifically squeezing diesel heat users - they get untaxed fuel that is theoretically usable in trucks, and folks often 'cheat'. it has a colouring agent, and in parts of usa where this type of heater is common, policemen will often dip a wooden stick into a truck's tank to test for cheat

14:29:27 ascii_field: this is a disgraceful and perhaps little-known thing, but very many american streets do not have piped gas.

14:29:43 ascii_field: even near cities.

14:29:43 mircea_popescu: the historical "sexual modesty" of north america being the original, and to this day best example. in its many plurious expressions, from "rright to life" to that derp linked yesterday or w/e

14:30:20 mircea_popescu: ascii_field well, it is also known that many streets do not have fiber,also.

14:30:36 ascii_field: most.

14:31:05 mircea_popescu: how is it not as disgraceful, you know ? the us is in the business of being congo while pretending to be europe.

14:31:26 mircea_popescu: china, meanwhile, has been in the business of being europe while pretending to be congo.

14:31:31 mircea_popescu: apparently this latter approach works better.

14:31:57 ascii_field: french escalators have 'stop' buttons.

14:32:07 ascii_field: as do german, russian even, etc

14:32:13 ascii_field: but in china...

14:32:14 mircea_popescu: doh ?

14:32:22 mircea_popescu: in china people have stop buttons.

14:32:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00040082 = 15.4717 BTC [-] {2}

14:32:34 ascii_field: all people have stop buttons.

14:32:56 mircea_popescu: ;;google HAMMER TIME!

14:32:57 gribble: MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo; U Can't Touch This - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_Can't_Touch_This; Hammertime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammertime

14:33:43 *: ascii_field has colleagues who entertain him with choice security camera footage from the middle kingdom - involving items such as escalator-as-woodchipper, phalanxes of motorbikes flattened by trucks going the wrong way, etc

14:34:53 ascii_field: i can't really blame the cn folks for having an active 'mortido'

14:35:00 ascii_field: the place packed with meat.

14:36:41 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291172 << iirc the traditional term is 'lusers'

14:36:41 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 01:41:52; mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 it's just standard confirmation time. the problem with technology is that it works a certain way, which people actually understand. users, however, which are eminently NOT people, but fucking animals, don't care about all that. instead they "try" things, and then "come to expect" on the basis of you know, two attempts last Sunday. and then get all aggitated if their unfounded, poorly resea

14:36:56 mircea_popescu: mmyeah,

14:38:13 mircea_popescu: and then, because this is the lulzy part, it's like a fucking prion this thing. then! people who should fucking know better try and cater to it! and then they get used to THAT and get all agressed when you don't.

14:38:51 ascii_field: don't feed beasts with bottomless stomachs

14:38:56 ascii_field: i thought the ancients knew this.

14:39:23 mircea_popescu: it's just... the sleep of reason. "habits" and habituation take over.

14:39:43 mircea_popescu: "what do you mean my snatch stinks, I'VE ALWAYS WASHED IT LIKE THAT"

14:40:18 ascii_field: picture an animal trainer, perhaps in a circus, who were to somehow forget that his 'patients' are animals.

14:40:25 ascii_field: try to reason with the walrus, the lion, yes.

14:40:46 mircea_popescu: (you'd be surprised what % of "first world" teenagers discover on the porn set that yes you're supposed to wash in between the clitoral hoodand the clitoris, what the fuck. it's still part of you, no matter what your dumb mom might have said christ told her.)

14:41:42 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i thought all modern gurlz had dildonic pressure-shower things now

14:42:08 mircea_popescu: and i thought all modern gurlz live in usg quarters with low pressure showers.

14:42:32 ascii_field: even these typically have a 'tight beam' setting

14:42:39 mircea_popescu: anyway, the above is decade+ out of date, maybe it mended meanwhile.

14:43:08 mircea_popescu: you know, low volume high pressure jet is more for cutting metal. contrary to what men (perhaps excusably) believe, cunt's not made of steel.

14:43:58 ascii_field: next he'll tell us to stop adding abrasive to the jet mixer !

14:44:01 ascii_field: l0l

14:44:17 mircea_popescu: but anyway. i maintain the general : you'd be surprised what % of the general population washes correctly, and the only reason you don't know about this is that you don't end up watching hundreds of them shower etc.

14:44:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00042215 = 7.6831 BTC [+]

14:44:47 ascii_field: for all i know, 9 of 10 don't even wash at all.

14:44:55 mircea_popescu: and this is universal. ask people if they have a foot of air behind their fridge, and if they say yes ask them why, and see.

14:44:55 ascii_field: how'd i know, looking through glass.

14:45:23 mircea_popescu: ask first time home buyers looking for a detached house if they know what a radon area is or not.

14:45:27 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: recall the 'freezer air conditioner' kickstarter ?!

14:45:36 mircea_popescu: myea,

14:46:01 mircea_popescu: "i've always just went into my basement, what do you mean it's a radiocooker now".

14:46:21 ascii_field: eh, the folks i know who have cellars, have geigers in there

14:46:31 ascii_field: logging to usb stick

14:46:44 punkman: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/8843044/free-ac oh good they didn't get any money

14:46:46 assbot: Free AC (Canceled) by Robert Purdon — Kickstarter ... ( http://bit.ly/1VynDcQ )

14:46:47 ascii_field: with a sort of gas sampler, even

14:46:48 mircea_popescu: the magic is that a) you don't need it everywhere and b) people move a lot.

14:47:21 ascii_field: punkman: the 'laser shaver' folks ~did~ - 2.3M last i saw

14:47:28 ascii_field: and countless similar gags

14:49:12 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291258 << i thought 'largest parking lot' was at ft meade (nsa central)

14:49:12 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 05:47:46; pete_dushenski: just checked, wem still boasts 'world's largest indoor amusement park' including 'world's largest indoor triple roller coaster', and also 'world's largest parking lot'

14:49:43 ascii_field: perhaps it was a case of 'soviet elephants are the biggest elephants'

14:52:42 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291275 << 'Do not disparage the diesel cycle. Napalm may smell like victory, but diesel evokes big trucks, heavy equipment, iron ships; hot oil, spanners the height of a man, 1" drive socket sets, and no stinking Kettering ignition systems.' (uncle al schwartz)

14:52:42 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 06:10:56; mircea_popescu: derps shouldn't get a vote srsly. whosever can't appreciate the scent of diesel is neither a man nor allowed to discuss cars.

14:53:29 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288768 < this video? https://d2pq0u4uni88oo.cloudfront.net/assets/004/572/003/a2bda3e013ca8c957d1210f3b8f692ea_h264_high.mp4

14:53:29 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 18:52:13; ascii_field: addendum now has film of the sc4mz0r burning his skin with what is - bet your arse - a hot nichrome wire

14:53:39 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OfzZb2 )

14:53:43 ascii_field: aha

14:54:23 punkman: hmm, the little flashes of light seem out of place

15:00:41 punkman: oh these exist at least https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subwavelength-diameter_optical_fibre

15:00:42 assbot: Subwavelength-diameter optical fibre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OfAFwR )

15:01:15 punkman: but yeah doubtful skarp will work at all

15:09:08 mircea_popescu: im not sure what is going on there, mentally. conflating the sharpness of a blade with the sharpness of a laser is not unlike confusing "strict discipline" in a bdsm setting with the strict discipline of the woodchipper cutters.

15:09:19 mircea_popescu: what would make the laser follow your face and how would it do it ?

15:09:43 mircea_popescu: or is the plan ultimately to obtain sphere shaped heads ?

15:10:20 kakobrekla: just live it how the lazor authors have huge beards.

15:10:23 kakobrekla: love*

15:10:43 mircea_popescu: maybe they swore they'll not shave until their master plan's complete.

15:10:47 kakobrekla: !up ascii_field

15:11:05 mircea_popescu: sorta like how derps looking for the perfect soulmate are unfucked. this works.

15:11:22 ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: 'kickstarter' has turned into a kind of barometer of public illiteracy

15:12:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28441 @ 0.00041642 = 11.8434 BTC [-]

15:12:11 ascii_field: also it is a (solely psychiatrically!) interesting cargo cult. for instance, the most successful scams had video posted of a '3d printer' going, going...

15:12:25 ascii_field: it is a cargo cult in a very literal sense

15:12:32 ascii_field: strong preoccupation with packages, shapes

15:12:37 mircea_popescu: aha

15:12:39 ascii_field: esp. ones lifted from 'consumer' life

15:12:43 ascii_field: such as the razor handles

15:12:45 mircea_popescu: names, titles, brands, yes.

15:13:36 ascii_field: in a hypothetically sane future, '3d printer' will have vaguely unsavory connotations, just like the term 'patent medicine' does today

15:13:55 mircea_popescu: or like buttcoin folk hope bitcoin does tomorrow :D

15:15:08 ascii_field: quite seriously, it is an astonishing enabler of 'zero in a fancy bottle'

15:15:54 ascii_field: there ~are~ constructive uses for '3d printer', we even have one here, in a closet, at $rupturefarms

15:16:33 ascii_field: but they mostly reduce to 'need plastic bracket to hold pcb, in a hurry, don't care how ugly, no one will see it'

15:17:03 ascii_field: sorta like people once used hot glue.

15:17:25 ascii_field: (a '3d printer' is not so different from a hot glue gun on programmable wheels.)

15:17:34 mircea_popescu: i was just thinking, it's really a hotglue gun

15:17:36 ascii_field: ... or how people use perl.

15:18:17 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: there are several other types, such as liquid-resin (fused by laser) and sintered powder - but they are uncommon, at least in 'jungle' settings

15:18:55 mircea_popescu: but basically, the "3d printer" redditard thinks about is this "plastic hanger injection device", glorified.

15:19:41 mircea_popescu: (my curiosity on the topic so far was assuaged by breakingapart some 3d printed matter and reading a little on the chemistry of the "ink")

15:20:03 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the most common filler is ordinary 'abs' plastic

15:20:08 mircea_popescu: aha

15:20:09 ascii_field: the kind of which your keyboard is made.

15:20:21 ascii_field: but it comes out in thin 'strand' and it never loses this appearance

15:20:25 ascii_field: unless somehow buffed

15:20:52 kakobrekla: https://bou.si/pic/amazing-washing-machine-tech.jpg < 3d printer saves the day

15:20:52 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

15:20:53 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OfCUQQ )

15:21:24 ascii_field: a skilled craftsman can do surprising things with this horrid material - diametric once gave me a bolt and nut that screwed without much friction, on first try

15:21:28 ascii_field: but this is not easy.

15:22:09 kakobrekla: they use acetone vapour to smooth the surfaces

15:22:17 mircea_popescu: whynot laser!

15:22:20 mircea_popescu: nm.

15:22:35 ascii_field: kakobrekla: so long as you don't actually care about the shape - this almost works.

15:22:49 ascii_field: but try screwing in the 'smoothed' bolt.

15:23:35 mircea_popescu: what WOULD be pretty cool is if they managed to get it to where you canmake lego pieces out of it.

15:23:50 kakobrekla: http://sinkhacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/JWE_0468.jpg

15:23:54 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OfDjCR )

15:23:55 ascii_field: ain't happening. at least not with 'glue gun' method.

15:24:04 mircea_popescu: neighbourhood kids pitch together buy a printer, make all the legos they';ll ever need, on the cheap.

15:24:06 ascii_field: you need the precision of a $1M injection molder.

15:24:16 mircea_popescu: if sold with a time machine to take us back to 1992, this'd actulalywork.

15:24:58 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla aha. artwork is massively helped by the thing.

15:25:07 ascii_field: apparently (and this is not widely known, i think) - the tolerances for a 'correctly feeling' lego brick are astonishingly low.

15:25:10 mircea_popescu: you can just come and finish it after.

15:25:26 mircea_popescu: ascii_field it's known :)

15:25:41 mircea_popescu: i can't be the only one who went fuck this, im making my own.

15:29:24 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291337 << they could attach spikes, or an arse dildatron that must be inserted to enable function, and folks will still buy it. because MONOPOLY.

15:29:24 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 06:32:54; pete_dushenski: "After the release of iOS 9.0.2 on Wednesday, which fixed a number of bugs including a lock screen exploit, Apple stopped signing iOS 8.4.1 and iOS 9.0 firmware for compatible devices, prohibiting users who updated from downgrading." << no going backwards !

15:30:31 mircea_popescu: not so. see the sit on pineapple comment.

15:31:06 ascii_field: i'm seeing folks sitting on some pretty thick and sharp pineapples.

15:31:27 ascii_field: (e.g., 'gps' tracker, forced updates, etc)

15:32:19 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-10-2015#1291351 << 'consistent earnings' ?!! in a tournament market ? l0l!

15:32:19 assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 06:47:27; pete_dushenski: there is little evidence of “successful” criminals or consistent earnings from theft." << because only loser criminals waste their time on derpy 'scientific studies'. self-selecting much ?

15:33:15 punkman: how tournament?

15:33:15 ascii_field: what next? 'there is little evidence of being a wolf having consistent earnings from hunting'

15:33:31 ascii_field: punkman: in same sense as hollywood stardom

15:33:49 ascii_field: or academia

15:34:19 ascii_field: nobody says 'i'ma grow up to be a small-time cutpurse'

15:34:50 ascii_field: 'The piecemeal approach of requiring individual borrowers to apply for loan forgiveness seemed unacceptably burdensome. “The right thing to do would be to issue a classwide discharge and understand that this happened to a group of people,” says Ann Larson, 41, one of the organization’s leaders.' << win !

15:35:12 mircea_popescu: "this happened".

15:35:13 ascii_field: where is ~my~ PHREE!!!11!!11 $30K ?

15:35:21 mircea_popescu: you weren't in the right group.

15:35:28 ascii_field: obviously.

15:35:39 mircea_popescu: you could never understand HOW IT FELT. because it never "happened" to you.

15:48:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00042698 = 9.7565 BTC [+] {3}

15:53:21 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291150 >> yes

15:53:21 assbot: Logged on 03-10-2015 22:07:46; ag3nt_zer0: this is just standard confirmation time? a general warning about services like bitpay?

15:54:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8602 @ 0.00042556 = 3.6607 BTC [-]

15:56:24 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.25807000 BTC on 'No' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b37

16:01:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00042684 = 5.3782 BTC [+] {2}

16:12:58 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/788c4ba150a742bccf3f7a9b4da0e63a/tumblr_njfgsrtlV91tahqnlo1_1280.jpg

16:12:59 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OdfYQG )

16:27:51 deedbot-: [fraudsters] Apropos de nothing - http://fraudsters.com/2015/apropos-de-nothing/

16:33:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00042715 = 2.8619 BTC [+]

16:35:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15850 @ 0.00042715 = 6.7703 BTC [+]

16:46:05 punkman: http://www.msf.org/article/afghanistan-msf-demands-explanations-after-deadly-airstrikes-hit-hospital-kunduz

16:46:06 assbot: Afghanistan: MSF demands explanations after deadly airstrikes hit hospital in Kunduz | Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) International ... ( http://bit.ly/1j8aI5D )

16:46:49 punkman: "The bombing took place despite the fact that MSF had provided the GPS coordinates of the trauma hospital to Coalition and Afghan military and civilian officials as recently as Tuesday 29 September, to avoid that the hospital be hit. "

16:51:04 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQWmljxUEAA9r1z.jpg:large Jeb Bush Sends Mailer To 86,000 Iowans With His Head Photoshopped Onto A Black Body.

16:51:05 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1j8bbF5 )

16:52:33 punkman: ah such scam http://petapixel.com/2015/08/23/nope-jeb-bushs-head-wasnt-photoshopped-onto-a-black-mans-body/

16:52:34 assbot: Nope, Jeb Bush's Head Wasn't Photoshopped Onto a Black Man's Body ... ( http://bit.ly/1j8bj7E )

17:08:09 mircea_popescu: are we betting wherer agent scully lost her freenode nick pw ?

17:08:57 mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : http://33.media.tumblr.com/ebb056f9b9afc1252f6b361281505ec4/tumblr_nj788gFgyZ1shsytco1_400.gif << pick out the incompetent, untrained women among their competent, well trained peers. what gave it away ?

17:09:01 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1j8cVOx )

17:09:32 mircea_popescu: http://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2015/08/jebbushmailer.jpg << for the record, "jeb" is gypsy for pocket. that pic is so very lulzy.

17:09:33 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1j8cZhp )

17:12:12 ben_vulpes: tilted pelvises and resulting "swayback" indicates well trained?

17:13:19 mircea_popescu: aha.

17:13:47 ben_vulpes: "ease of access"

17:15:27 mircea_popescu: more like "in control of own body".

17:16:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11459 @ 0.00042521 = 4.8725 BTC [-] {2}

17:17:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3341 @ 0.00042391 = 1.4163 BTC [-]

17:19:55 mod6: ascii_field: iirc only ben_vulpes, mod6, and pete_dushenski had children << I don't have any offspring of my own.

17:21:48 mircea_popescu: !up yang

17:26:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8773 @ 0.00042715 = 3.7474 BTC [+]

17:41:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00042391 = 7.0369 BTC [-]

17:48:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00042715 = 3.9298 BTC [+]

17:49:14 mircea_popescu: check out bizarro tx rewriting. i issued fca843c0b40a1755eee073a719c856baa7fbf5ac28db84804a44a91f52638632 which worked as expected, but apparently there's a 5269a0e862876040db21706a7849ffd1b7d63e72d6dd61b1d2431a51698bb007 restatement of it

17:52:21 punkman: didn't the first best new very strict DERP encoding solve that one?

17:53:53 punkman: https://blockchain.info/tx/fca843c0b40a1755eee073a719c856baa7fbf5ac28db84804a44a91f52638632 161 conf on the original hash?

17:53:53 assbot: Bitcoin Transaction fca843c0b40a1755eee073a719c856baa7fbf5ac28db84804a44a91f52638632 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MT9btM )

17:55:24 punkman: !up ascii_field

17:55:44 ascii_field: mircea_popescu et al: ~this~ is one of the things proving bitcoin was designed by a tard

17:55:54 ascii_field: tx signature does not in fact cover whole tx.

17:56:04 ascii_field: this is well-known..

17:57:41 ascii_field: the whole 'malleability' thing had no plausible excuse for even hinting at existing, EVER

17:57:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00043105 = 11.6384 BTC [+] {3}

17:57:57 ascii_field: it ought to have been 'flip ONE FUCKING BIT and sig won't verify.'

17:59:09 punkman: openssl has many holes like that

17:59:23 ascii_field: not about openssl, even !

17:59:46 ascii_field: (one CAN use openssl to sign a string of bits in the customary way)

17:59:55 ascii_field: but bitcoin DOES NOT SIGN WHOLE TX

18:01:06 ascii_field: but mircea_popescu will prolly say 'nobody asked us anything'

18:01:07 punkman: even if it did, couldn't you still diddle the signature?

18:01:39 ascii_field: not if it were an rsa sig

18:01:53 ascii_field: whole thing is retarded on six different levels

18:02:10 ascii_field: and i'm supposed to respect it because the gods smiled and pissed some money on it.

18:02:12 ascii_field: aha.

18:03:16 ascii_field: btw 'malleability' of the ecdsa sig proper is all the proof anyone needs that ecc is retarded

18:03:38 ascii_field: (as if there were any shortage of symptoms of this)

18:12:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00043741 = 6.6705 BTC [+] {2}

18:12:19 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.11000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin block reward halving on or before 20 July 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1182/bitcoin-block-reward-halving-on-or-before-20/#b5

18:12:28 ascii_field: ;;later tell thestringpuller http://wiki.apache.org/stdcxx/C%2B%2B0xCompilerSupport

18:12:29 assbot: C++0xCompilerSupport - Stdcxx Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1VxoP5I )

18:12:29 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:17:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4977 @ 0.00044185 = 2.1991 BTC [+]

18:23:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17008 @ 0.00043688 = 7.4305 BTC [-] {2}

18:38:01 mats: http://level7.org.uk/chroma/

18:38:02 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hjrJrI )

18:38:37 mats: abstract puzzle game

18:48:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00042391 = 5.638 BTC [-]

19:01:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10704 @ 0.00043604 = 4.6674 BTC [+]

19:14:48 mats: meanwhile, IS continues to advance on Iraqi positions

19:18:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11414 @ 0.00042151 = 4.8111 BTC [-]

19:21:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00042104 = 3.242 BTC [-]

19:34:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14639 @ 0.00042104 = 6.1636 BTC [-]

19:35:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8280 @ 0.00041642 = 3.448 BTC [-] {4}

19:43:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0004184 = 3.6401 BTC [+]

19:57:27 mircea_popescu: punkman aye.

19:57:47 mircea_popescu: ascii_field hey, no point arguing it to me, i know.

19:58:06 mircea_popescu: <punkman> didn't the first best new very strict DERP encoding solve that one? << mno.

19:58:29 mircea_popescu: also, this particular attack is ongoing, i see about 32% of txn rebroadcast malleated.

19:58:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00041608 = 3.932 BTC [-] {2}

19:59:02 mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> and i'm supposed to respect it because the gods smiled and pissed some money on it. << you're supposed to respect it because you're not old enough yet.

19:59:04 mircea_popescu: this is a thing.

19:59:25 mircea_popescu: once you're old enough to stand on your own you're more than free to make your own. but so far, not there yet. working at it, yes.

19:59:50 mircea_popescu: how goes AgentScully ?

19:59:53 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

20:00:17 mircea_popescu: in more "usa is about freedom" news, http://www.activistpost.com/2015/10/camping-on-your-own-land-is-now-illegal.html

20:00:18 assbot: "Camping" on Your Own Land is Now Illegal — Gov't Waging War on Off-Grid Living ... ( http://bit.ly/1jIcSsW )

20:00:43 ascii_field: what specifically does 'old enough' mean here?

20:02:13 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: re: 'camping': the thing in question is part of a campaign by just about every half-respectable usa jurisdiction to squeeze out 'trailer trash'

20:02:15 mircea_popescu: enough power to push the changes through.

20:02:31 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ah then i don't expect to do this even if i were to live for a thousand years.

20:02:51 mircea_popescu: not every male is destined to reach adulthood.

20:02:51 ascii_field: as it is, i can only suggest things to other people.

20:03:30 mircea_popescu: anyway. i'm not old enough either, if it makes you feel better. and the idea, while it has certain merits, is also not old enough.

20:03:56 ascii_field: even without all of this, it is quite certain that ~computing~ 'is not old enough'

20:04:00 ascii_field: for... adulthood

20:04:02 ascii_field: in this sense.

20:04:19 mircea_popescu: "Jay Syrmopoulos is an investigative journalist, free thinker, researcher, and ardent opponent of authoritarianism." << that should prolly write for qntra.

20:04:27 mircea_popescu: ascii_field perhaps so.

20:05:20 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the 'war on trailers' is a consequence of the 1960-70s upheaval and the prohibition of filtering people on any variable other than 'how much can he afford to pay for house'

20:05:38 mircea_popescu: aha.

20:06:09 ascii_field: as it is, folks in usa have ~no way~ to express 'i do not want to live in zimbabwe' other than by 'this town bans trailers'

20:06:15 mircea_popescu: or moreover, it's a consequence of the bizzaro uncivilised yet hypocritical nature of the us.

20:06:20 ascii_field: it doesn't really work, of course

20:06:46 mircea_popescu: folks wishing to express "i do not want to live in zimbabwe" while IN ZIMBABWE have other issues than what laws to pass.

20:06:59 ascii_field: think of it as life in orbit

20:07:07 ascii_field: 'i do not want to breathe vacuum' while surrounded by it

20:07:12 mircea_popescu: hardly.

20:07:15 ascii_field: 'i do not want to drink sea water' while at sea

20:07:18 ascii_field: what's wrong with that

20:07:38 mircea_popescu: that the examples are spurious. these are africans, born and bred, who think themselves above the africa that THEY ARE.

20:07:48 ascii_field: now this, yes

20:07:51 mircea_popescu: seawater not wanting to "breathe" sea water is the height of lol.

20:08:02 ascii_field: except that not everyone ~is~ the sea.

20:08:16 mircea_popescu: then not everyone has bizarre tastes.

20:08:44 ascii_field: i, for instance, spend perhaps most of my conscious time, just on keeping the sea out.

20:08:52 mircea_popescu: bizarre tastes.

20:09:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00041601 = 1.9968 BTC [-]

20:09:19 ascii_field: bizarre how..?

20:10:47 mircea_popescu: this needs explaining ? "oh i spend most of my time fishing bailing the water out" "so why do you go there ?" "huge fish in that lake!"

20:11:26 ascii_field: --'why do you go there?' --'i am a fisherman.'

20:11:39 mircea_popescu: "apparently not."

20:14:48 ascii_field: ever see the (quite terrible..) film 'waterworld' ?

20:15:13 mircea_popescu: i think not

20:15:38 ascii_field: (re: involuntary 'fishermen' and their leaky boats)

20:28:17 ben_vulpes: programming is still in "right or left handed screws" regime, if that isn't an egregious compliment.

20:29:23 mircea_popescu: hm ?

20:31:48 ben_vulpes: 'computing', i suppose.

20:31:51 mircea_popescu: !up better

20:32:01 ben_vulpes: programming being the lathework, i suppose.

20:32:15 *: ben_vulpes supposes much, knows little

20:32:21 better: i won a bet at bitbet.us

20:32:32 better: but i didn' get any coin.

20:32:34 mircea_popescu: well done!

20:32:39 mircea_popescu: which bet is this ?

20:32:53 better: https://bitbet.us/bet/1195/bitcoin-250-or-above-on-september-30th/

20:32:54 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin $250 or above on September 30th :: 0.12 B (60%) on Yes, 0.08 B (40%) on No | closed 2 weeks 4 days ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1KZW0EN )

20:33:02 mircea_popescu: specifically which bet did you make ?

20:33:27 better: i betted on no.

20:33:59 mircea_popescu: yes but which of the half dozen or so single bitcent bets is yours. right click on the date to get the url.

20:35:29 better: out address is 1EMUE

20:35:32 better: they are mine

20:35:35 better: b2 and b3

20:35:58 mircea_popescu: aha

20:37:15 better: yes ?

20:37:17 mircea_popescu: better tx is 802cb1fd782aa383c97126c3a0792d81c71d8c3897b74d9e62e1660c01684fe5 for some reason has trouble broadcasting

20:37:27 mircea_popescu: but it should appear momentarily.

20:38:19 mircea_popescu: i'd give it a few hours an' complain again.

20:38:42 better: Ok. Thanks. This is not available now. I will check later again.

20:39:05 mircea_popescu: kk

20:51:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11197 @ 0.00042131 = 4.7174 BTC [+]

21:08:37 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 3.91000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to drop under $190 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1210/bitcoin-to-drop-under-190-before-jan-2016/#b7

21:21:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16234 @ 0.00041601 = 6.7535 BTC [-]

21:30:34 ben_vulpes: !up Duffer1

21:44:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00042086 = 4.0613 BTC [+]

21:52:00 mircea_popescu: http://cointelegraph.com/news/115374/the-ongoing-bitcoin-malleability-attack << the quality of the writing reads exactly like the shit fiverr delivers.

21:52:01 assbot: The Ongoing Bitcoin Malleability Attack ... ( http://bit.ly/1MTjRZD )

21:56:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00041927 = 9.0982 BTC [-]

22:05:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00042086 = 5.2608 BTC [+]

22:13:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00041927 = 1.5094 BTC [-]

22:21:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8051 @ 0.00041647 = 3.353 BTC [-] {2}

22:22:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6949 @ 0.000416 = 2.8908 BTC [-]

22:28:15 btcdrak: mircea_popescu: LOL, what has litecoin's spam handling got to do with tx malleability? maybe they paid for a fiverr extra for that gem.

22:28:30 mircea_popescu: i have no idea.

22:30:02 btcdrak: there's a real reason why a nasty and sustained crash in the bitcoin price would be good for Bitcoin, it would flush out all these idiot companies and their VCs.

22:31:49 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski your first pr thing could be to get @sandbaydev to take btc payment ffs. what is this, 1995 ?

22:31:49 gribble: The operation succeeded.

22:32:30 mircea_popescu: btcdrak kinda what we've been doing. VC circus got bled to death, i very much wish to see if they're still going to keep the tail up and we dun has to do what told bs next year, after the massacre.

22:32:36 mircea_popescu: but if so, sure, more massacre.

22:33:53 btcdrak: "smart money" has been trying to prop up the price for the last 9 months...

22:34:32 mircea_popescu: smartness in money only exists retrospectively.

22:57:44 mircea_popescu: in other news, from the first, biggest and still better reddit, http://digg.com/video/denmark-travel-do-it-for-mom

22:57:45 assbot: Denmark Is Really Desperate For Their Young People To Start Boning - Digg ... ( http://bit.ly/1OgoBeZ )

23:02:38 mircea_popescu: omfg seth godin still exists. http://sethgodin.typepad.com/icn.seths.head.png now a visibly old man, trying to stick to the orange background in a green shirt. practically speaking a parody of itself (not that it didn't start off as a parody - but by now it's not even intentional anymore).

23:02:39 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1iXbwtu )

23:02:45 mircea_popescu: this is like timecube.

23:49:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.0004188 = 10.135 BTC [+] {2}