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00:13:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67100 @ 0.00050041 = 33.5775 BTC [+] {4}

00:49:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43050 @ 0.00050573 = 21.7717 BTC [+]

00:59:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9599 @ 0.00050573 = 4.8545 BTC [+]

01:00:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes! very shortly

01:00:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57601 @ 0.00050574 = 29.1311 BTC [+] {2}

01:19:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123750 @ 0.00049923 = 61.7797 BTC [-] {2}

01:32:43 asciilifeform: re: dwave: obligatory turd - http://www.wired.com/2014/05/quantum-computing

01:32:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RqIWOT )

01:33:07 asciilifeform: 'he wasn?t going to make it in academia. ?I never was able to find a place in science,? he says. But he felt he had the bullheaded tenacity, honed by years of wrestling, to be an entrepreneur. ?I was good at putting together things that were really ambitious, without thinking they were impossible.? At a time when lots of smart people argued that quantum computers could never work, he fell in love with the idea of not

01:33:07 asciilifeform: only making one but selling it.'

01:33:13 asciilifeform: just picture this fella.

01:36:40 asciilifeform: sorta lulzy, he pawned a 1950s-style analogue calculator off as a 'quantum comp'

01:36:57 asciilifeform: or did we do this vivisection here already ?

01:38:16 asciilifeform: 'He?s used the D-Wave to train image-recognizing algorithms for mobile phones that are more efficient than any before. He produced a car-recognition algorithm .... ' << even supposing any of this,

01:38:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00050447 = 21.6922 BTC [+]

01:38:31 asciilifeform: see mircea_popescu's dragonfly article based on my talk at conf-II.

01:44:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36752 @ 0.00049536 = 18.2055 BTC [-] {2}

01:45:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00049122 = 3.1438 BTC [-]

01:47:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42648 @ 0.00049122 = 20.9496 BTC [-]

01:51:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00050608 = 10.2481 BTC [+] {2}

02:01:58 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "SOPS"?

02:13:34 brg444: ^ben_vulpes http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ ?

02:13:35 assbot: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1XLGAtV )

02:26:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00049402 = 9.2876 BTC [-]

02:33:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92250 @ 0.00049842 = 45.9792 BTC [+] {2}

02:36:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59918 @ 0.00049871 = 29.8817 BTC [+]

02:43:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40360 @ 0.00049714 = 20.0646 BTC [-] {2}

02:44:47 *: mircea_popescu is about to say something, sees the next line, nods.

02:59:12 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/95d92a496f2b8a2dd68811c5ca08167a/tumblr_n3kam0uxWu1rv03nyo1_1270.jpg

02:59:13 assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1TD9wDT )

02:59:16 mircea_popescu: heh

02:59:19 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/95d92a496f2b8a2dd68811c5ca08167a/tumblr_n3kam0uxWu1rv03nyo1_1280.jpg

02:59:20 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TD9xYc )

03:08:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53350 @ 0.00050365 = 26.8697 BTC [+]

03:16:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94450 @ 0.00050619 = 47.8096 BTC [+]

03:22:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00050619 = 4.7582 BTC [+]

03:28:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99886 @ 0.00050645 = 50.5873 BTC [+] {4}

03:31:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sent !

03:33:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: please confirm if first paragraph makes ~exact~ sense, it is imho quite important.

03:35:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00050365 = 16.5701 BTC [-]

03:47:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29250 @ 0.00050907 = 14.8903 BTC [+] {3}

03:50:55 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336197 << c3ns0r3d!!11111?

03:50:55 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 02:59:12; mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/95d92a496f2b8a2dd68811c5ca08167a/tumblr_n3kam0uxWu1rv03nyo1_1270.jpg

03:53:08 BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/06TDE83.txt

03:53:09 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21Ab7zw )

03:57:41 BingoBoingo: http://www.acuteaday.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/pademelon-with-joey-in-pouch.jpg

03:57:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1N00MFw )

03:59:33 asciilifeform: moar inqtelism (circa 2012): http://www.digitalreasoning.com/uncommon-technology/answer-questions

03:59:35 assbot: Uncommon Technology | Digital Reasoning ... ( http://bit.ly/1N00Wwt )

03:59:47 asciilifeform: 'Who did they work with previously? Who might have shared information inappropriately or made a trade based on knowledge they shouldn?t have used?'

04:02:21 asciilifeform: http://witricity.com << another, circa 2013. ripping off poor old nick tesla

04:02:22 assbot: WiTricity Corporation | Wireless Power Over Distance ... ( http://bit.ly/1N01mmu )

04:03:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41004 @ 0.00050955 = 20.8936 BTC [+] {2}

04:04:19 asciilifeform: aaaand an honest-to-goodness snake oil chumpatron, https://redseal.co/content/how-it-works

04:04:21 assbot: How It Works | redseal.co ... ( http://bit.ly/1N01wKx )

04:06:08 asciilifeform: aaand this oddity, http://www.polymagnet.com

04:06:09 assbot: Home - Correlated Magnetics ... ( http://bit.ly/1N01Fhl )

04:10:41 asciilifeform: ^ apparently this is a commercial thing, can go, buy.

04:11:02 asciilifeform: looks spiffy actually. used to be that you had to actually glue small ones together to get this effect.

04:12:45 BingoBoingo: Would be interesting if the proceeds didn't go to CIA

04:13:19 asciilifeform: still trying to grasp why they bought it

04:13:22 asciilifeform: ... limpet mines ?

04:13:28 BingoBoingo: for laundry

04:13:33 asciilifeform: http://www.magnetics.com/product.asp?ProductID=164 << complete with spam video

04:13:36 assbot: Industrial Magnetics, Inc. - Polymagnet® Kits ... ( http://bit.ly/21AdUsp )

04:13:53 BingoBoingo: FEMA camps for dissident relocation don't pay for themselves

04:14:14 phf: ;;seen kakobrekla

04:14:14 gribble: kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 23 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <kakobrekla> The note comes soon after the bank filed a patent for a securities settlement platform based on SETLcoin, a new cryptocurrency.

04:14:43 BingoBoingo: And can't appropriate money from congress for said camps until you've set the black helicopters free

04:16:14 asciilifeform: https://www.lab41.org << yet another one of these.

04:16:21 asciilifeform: imho i've listed the interesting ones.

04:16:32 asciilifeform: (left out some schmucks who crawl twitter, etc)

04:18:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105750 @ 0.00051142 = 54.0827 BTC [+] {4}

04:19:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3475 @ 0.00051014 = 1.7727 BTC [-] {2}

04:19:52 asciilifeform: https://try.lab41.org << mega-l0l

04:20:01 asciilifeform: not even trying to hide the cribbed wwwdevcrud

04:20:26 asciilifeform: i'd like to learn what kind of whiskey these folks drink themselves to sleep with every night

04:20:29 asciilifeform: (and at their desks)

04:22:02 BingoBoingo: Prolly Ten High or Old Crow

04:22:16 BingoBoingo: Serious Value

04:24:43 trinque: I don't mind bulleit

04:25:07 BingoBoingo: trinque: Out of the price range at the necessary quantities consumed in this scenario

04:25:35 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not at kitten-reprocessing-plant pay scale

04:31:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would say it does.

04:31:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spiffy

04:31:31 mircea_popescu: incidentally, ima publish a post-mortem report of the latest rent server attempt these coming days.

04:31:43 *: asciilifeform looks forward to reading this

04:33:48 mircea_popescu: omfg that's cute BingoBoingo

04:34:11 BingoBoingo: Damn, that inch of height http://www.nyas.org/image.axd?id=d4aa338e-f305-4521-8822-b603cd76a9c7&t=634314620997800000

04:34:12 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1N04hf5 )

04:34:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00051166 = 14.0451 BTC [+] {2}

04:34:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what are you like training for intelwork nao ? :D

04:35:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i get spam from folks like these, so my curiosity was temporarily piqued.

04:35:44 mircea_popescu: if it stays piqued long enouygh there's prolly a qntra in there.

04:35:49 asciilifeform: they ask to buy my anal virginity, aha

04:36:07 asciilifeform: i though qntra were for nyooooz

04:36:12 asciilifeform: them there are oldz

04:36:56 mircea_popescu: but in similar news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/c6d6af55f922ea0c34817181dfcf17ce/tumblr_mvfpg2r28I1qbn0f7o1_1280.jpg

04:36:57 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1N04wqr )

04:37:07 asciilifeform: ^ aha!

04:37:20 asciilifeform: 'felching' ?

04:37:25 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> them there are oldz << news can be olds if packed right

04:37:50 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: feel phree to package any and all of my exhaust gas as you may see fit

04:38:46 BingoBoingo: That would take time away from mining new exhaust gasses, and that's not the kind of spam I receive.

04:38:52 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is this from the crumb cartoon ?

04:39:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which

04:39:25 mircea_popescu: random ustard sucking commie cum out of miss columbia ?

04:39:34 asciilifeform: quite possib.

04:39:52 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i actually toured one such godforsaken heathen pit this very morning

04:40:20 asciilifeform: saw perhaps 101 things mircea_popescu wrote about that never made sense prior.

04:40:53 BingoBoingo: Aha, this is why you spam is must be so much more interesting than mine

04:41:10 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i let it be known that i was looking for wurk, some weeks past

04:41:29 asciilifeform: and thus cometh the spam-sea

04:51:09 BingoBoingo: ic

05:07:09 mircea_popescu: !rated gabrielradio

05:07:09 assbot: You rated user gabrielradio on 14-Oct-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Apprentice fraudsters translator.

05:07:24 mircea_popescu: !rate gabrielradio 2 Apprentice fraudsters translator.

05:07:24 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/27814f0bdea07cec

05:08:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like what ?

05:08:48 mircea_popescu: and in other-saltmines news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/407f19fd35af1a589eb9a09d5cb6843e/tumblr_n17g3hc6QR1ssnq53o1_400.gif

05:08:49 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O6XnCh )

05:09:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: such as desks that would easily fit in public toilet stalls, etc

05:09:52 mircea_popescu: a

05:10:27 asciilifeform: but neither this nor any of the other elements taken separately was the interesting bit

05:10:56 asciilifeform: the interesting, if you will, bit, was the whole put-your-pistol-in-your-mouth-every-night banal deadly boredom of the entire shebang.

05:11:38 mircea_popescu: civilisation is not for everyone.

05:11:49 asciilifeform: quite.

05:16:56 gabrielradio: THEREFORE, it is established that any Bitcoin company, or trader or merchant or other entity deriving a worldly profit from the otherworldly workings of Bitcoin, is to pay a tax in sum of 0.1% or a hundred thousand satoshi per full Bitcoin realised, into the coffers of the Bitcoin Foundation

05:17:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19950 @ 0.00051014 = 10.1773 BTC [-] {2}

05:17:07 gabrielradio: does one need to send this from an address known as his, so as to prove his satisfaction of the obligation?

05:24:23 trinque: prove to whom?

05:25:26 gabrielradio: to the foundation, i guess

05:27:45 trinque: could make a deed of it.

05:29:29 trinque: as several bitcoin bitcoin businesses already do.

05:29:45 trinque: s/bitcoin//

05:29:54 trinque: computer died mid-sentence :p

05:36:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82950 @ 0.00051064 = 42.3576 BTC [+]

06:04:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98900 @ 0.00051064 = 50.5023 BTC [+]

06:46:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185400 @ 0.00050719 = 94.033 BTC [-] {7}

06:53:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70777 @ 0.00051166 = 36.2138 BTC [+] {2}

07:10:21 punkman: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/28

07:10:25 assbot: Embedded in Academia : Nine ways to break your systems code using volatile ... ( http://bit.ly/1ToDV87 )

07:21:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52887 @ 0.00050661 = 26.7931 BTC [-] {2}

07:23:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00050661 = 4.9394 BTC [-] {2}

07:49:20 BingoBoingo: High Risk Arbitrage: https://archive.is/s57zr

07:49:22 assbot: Just got arrested for buying stolen gift cards with Bitcoin and then re-selling them. I did not know they were stolen. BEING CHARGED WITH A FELONY!!! What do I do??? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4z6mD )

07:50:00 punkman: "Over 6 months I bought about $30,000 worth of Starbucks gift cards for about $6,000." no shit sherlock

08:00:46 punkman: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/12/03/mt_etna_erupts_in_spectacular_volcanic_event.html

08:00:47 assbot: Mt. Etna erupts in spectacular volcanic event. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4zGAy )

08:01:55 punkman: http://www.nationalgeographic.it/images/2015/12/03/163808228-29f3488f-d73c-4648-b84b-4da012f42202.jpg

08:01:56 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4zHVi )

08:16:36 adlai: http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/technology/future_tense/2015/12/151203_FT_Mt-Etna.jpg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpg << "I'a Cthulhu! I'a S'ha-t'n!"

08:16:37 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4Aky6 )

08:17:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63676 @ 0.00050682 = 32.2723 BTC [+] {3}

08:18:51 adlai: "Roman records from 122BC show a large eruption eruption... taxes were cancelled for 10 years to help locals rebuild" << again the capacitor knob

08:25:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94950 @ 0.00050332 = 47.7902 BTC [-] {6}

09:49:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00050517 = 12.6798 BTC [+]

09:53:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87788 @ 0.00050517 = 44.3479 BTC [+]

10:00:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55800 @ 0.00050517 = 28.1885 BTC [+]

10:26:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115300 @ 0.00050561 = 58.2968 BTC [+] {2}

10:40:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 231209 @ 0.00050439 = 116.6195 BTC [-] {6}

10:55:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47962 @ 0.00050139 = 24.0477 BTC [-] {2}

11:18:58 punkman: "Brian Snow, former director of Information Assurance for the NSA said it best at a conference in Greece recently: "I’m here to tell you that your cyber systems continue to function and serve you not due to the expertise of your security staff but solely due to the sufferance of your opponents"."

11:20:21 mircea_popescu: brian snow quoting #b-a without attribution.

11:20:35 mircea_popescu: what the fuck do they teach in "information assurance" class if they've not gotten to plagiarism yet!

11:20:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86805 @ 0.0005084 = 44.1317 BTC [+] {4}

11:21:24 mircea_popescu: <gabrielradio> to the foundation, i guess << trhe whole point is that it's voluntary. so you can do whatever you want.

11:23:18 mircea_popescu: ahaha that redditard guy. "i did not know you were stolen your honoars!!!!" "were they discounted ?" "well yes, but this totally happens all the time" "with what ?" "with for instance... stolen cars, if people sell it to the chop shop... or if someone is selling something out of the trunk downtown ? or like... if it's you know, like we say on the street hot" "..."

11:25:35 gabrielradio: "this obligation is a moral requirement, and outside of the opinion of the sovereign people it will not be enforced."

11:26:09 gabrielradio: yes, but say someone in b-a inquires about your payments to the foundation

11:27:33 mircea_popescu: well, jurov is teh treasurer. he might be amenable to making arrangements for you, if it's a significant sum. alternatively, you can use the forward secret method.

11:27:52 mircea_popescu: (make deed today that "i will pay sum so and so to foundation address tomorrow", then pay tomorrow.)

11:31:30 mircea_popescu: the adequacy of bitcoin is eerly evident in this context : "what happens if someone sees my secret and steals it ?" "well... i guess you can pay again."

11:31:46 mircea_popescu: clearly this thing is not coming from anywhere we've seen before.

11:45:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27062 @ 0.00050713 = 13.724 BTC [-]

11:55:38 adlai: you can also sign from the input addresses

12:05:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00050559 = 18.6057 BTC [-]

12:13:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92375 @ 0.00050122 = 46.3002 BTC [-] {6}

12:18:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128600 @ 0.00049955 = 64.2421 BTC [-] {7}

12:19:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10581 @ 0.00050399 = 5.3327 BTC [+] {3}

12:29:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00050659 = 20.3143 BTC [+] {3}

12:39:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34362 @ 0.00049623 = 17.0515 BTC [-] {2}

12:54:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98450 @ 0.00050028 = 49.2526 BTC [+] {4}

13:27:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48300 @ 0.00049428 = 23.8737 BTC [-] {2}

13:42:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97800 @ 0.00049619 = 48.5274 BTC [+] {3}

14:05:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58807 @ 0.000496 = 29.1683 BTC [-]

14:16:36 shinohai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3RQG97A.txt

14:16:37 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21BEUYG )

14:16:39 deedbot-: rejected: 1

14:17:22 shinohai: god fucking dammit why can't I do this right? >.<

14:18:25 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Federal Reserve will raise interest rate at December FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1221/federal-reserve-will-raise-interest-rate-at-december/#b27

14:20:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79300 @ 0.00049623 = 39.351 BTC [+] {2}

14:26:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00049425 = 23.378 BTC [-] {3}

14:33:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75050 @ 0.00049591 = 37.218 BTC [+] {3}

14:52:07 trinque: shinohai: just verify them on your end before trying to submit

14:54:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00049824 = 28.2004 BTC [+] {2}

14:54:36 asciilifeform: 'even die hards like the charismatic chief research officer of anti virus firm FSecure (Mikko Hypponen) have to concede their utility (or lack thereof). In a recent post he wrote: "What this means is that all of us had missed detecting this malware for two years, or more. That's a spectacular failure for our company, and for the antivirus industry in general.. This story does not end with Flame. It's highly likely there are ot

14:54:36 asciilifeform: her similar attacks already underway that we havn't detected yet. Put simply, attacks like these work.. Flame was a failure for the anti-virus industry. We really should have been able to do better. But we didn't. We were out of our league, in our own game."' << mega-l0l!!

14:54:41 asciilifeform: Run Moar Winblowz!!111

14:54:47 asciilifeform: Run Moar Antivirus!

14:55:16 asciilifeform: Buy Moar Wintel.

14:57:53 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336309 << mega-piece and every word of it is true.

14:57:53 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 07:10:21; punkman: http://blog.regehr.org/archives/28

14:58:26 asciilifeform: but compiler optimization retardation is not limited to the effects described therein

14:58:46 asciilifeform: i have seen some truly astonishing idiocies.

14:59:41 asciilifeform: (does anyone recall the very recent thread re: gcc optimizing away a certain kind of security check WHEN EXPLICITLY ASKED NOT TO ?)

15:00:02 asciilifeform: and the snivelling little piece of shit who piped up to defend this ?

15:00:18 asciilifeform: it wasn't drepper, or poettering, somebody unknown

15:02:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81000 @ 0.00049963 = 40.47 BTC [+] {2}

15:05:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38250 @ 0.00049416 = 18.9016 BTC [-] {4}

15:10:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00050012 = 23.0555 BTC [+] {2}

15:12:22 asciilifeform: re: yesterday's 'd-wave' thread: i often wonder what would happen if somebody were to demonstrate a machine, costing fiddybux instead of fiddymillion, that has the exact same performance on the exact same problems using... ordinary op-amps

15:12:41 asciilifeform: (demonstrating that 'd-wave' is simply a monstrously overpriced analogue calculator)

15:13:22 asciilifeform: now, nobody will do this for sane commercial reasons because - afaik - nobody actually required these toy problems ~solved~

15:13:25 asciilifeform: quickly, or otherwise.

15:14:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40230 @ 0.00050015 = 20.121 BTC [+] {3}

15:15:26 asciilifeform: i also can't help but appreciate the sheer magnitude of the 'fud' surrounding 'd-wave' - as if there could be any doubt whatsoever that the box is a work of charlatanry (doesn't run shor's algo and break rsa? not quantum comp. QED.)

15:26:34 thestringpuller: so much coinbase dick sucking everywhere

15:27:12 shinohai: i saw that. One post about them on reddit got gilded x3

15:29:12 mircea_popescu: what does that do ?

15:31:23 thestringpuller: it means the redditards liked what you wrote so much, they bought you reddit gold.

15:31:26 thestringpuller: 3 times!

15:31:48 mircea_popescu: which does...

15:32:06 thestringpuller: nothing but state you spent money via reddit in their name.

15:32:11 thestringpuller: which is redditarded.

15:32:29 thestringpuller: to think redditnotes was almost a thing

15:33:16 thestringpuller: and who the fuck is Steve Sokolowski?

15:33:48 mircea_popescu: why are we redoing the flame thing ? it's not 2012 anymore, and srsly, "one of the most sophisticated, md5-hash based, windows-only piece of crapolade ever" ?

15:38:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113800 @ 0.00050556 = 57.5327 BTC [+] {2}

15:46:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97631 @ 0.00050647 = 49.4472 BTC [+] {2}

15:52:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86400 @ 0.00049675 = 42.9192 BTC [-] {4}

16:00:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00050743 = 8.8293 BTC [+] {4}

16:14:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was mentioned on account of having been found by same av co. as 'stuxnet', and likewise far away from the pwning site and long after the fact of.

16:19:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99750 @ 0.00049411 = 49.2875 BTC [-] {2}

16:28:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67800 @ 0.00049411 = 33.5007 BTC [-] {4}

16:41:05 shinohai: http://www.wbaltv.com/news/aberdeen-police-officer-shot-in-face/36792688 <<< took mircea_popescu 's advice

16:41:06 assbot: Police: Suspect who shot Aberdeen police officer in face taken into custody | Maryland News - WBAL Home ... ( http://bit.ly/1QYV2Qe )

16:47:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104500 @ 0.00049354 = 51.5749 BTC [-] {5}

16:50:23 trinque: shinohai: somehow I'm doubtful boston's white thug population ever read anything

16:52:14 trinque: meanwhile, http://www.whdh.com/story/30528690/multiple-bomb-threats-reported-across-massachusetts

16:52:15 assbot: Multiple bomb threats reported across Massachusetts - 7News Boston WHDH-TV ... ( http://bit.ly/1YNLaKl )

16:52:42 trinque: shinohai: and whoops, that was maryland

16:53:25 trinque: I guess that look is spreading

16:57:25 pete_dushenski: didn't obama have some lulzy press conpherence quote after the recent california shootings (at the autistard clinic) along the lines of "these shooting are more and more frequent and we know we can't stop them but we sure wouldn't mind making them ~less frequent~"

16:57:48 pete_dushenski: shootings*

16:58:53 pete_dushenski: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/12/03/is-the-new-zuckerberg-fake-charity-an-estate-tax-avoidance-scheme/ << no kidding.

16:58:54 assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Is the new Zuckerberg fake charity an estate tax avoidance scheme? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QYXTIJ )

16:59:35 trinque: pete_dushenski: that guy started trying to spin a gun control narrative the day of

17:00:12 pete_dushenski: greenspun ?

17:00:21 trinque: nah, president bahamas

17:00:43 pete_dushenski: lol o well that's sorta his job

17:01:19 pete_dushenski: maintain monopoly on force so that the state may have some hope of social relevance

17:02:11 pete_dushenski: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/11/keyboard-lossage-mouse-lossage-everything-is-terrible/ << i lollered when jwz comes around to admitting that 'everything was fine until i upgraded to mac osx 10.11 (el capitain)'

17:02:13 assbot: jwz: Keyboard lossage, mouse lossage, everything is terrible ... ( http://bit.ly/1YNMop9 )

17:02:35 pete_dushenski: "i just expected it to work!"

17:03:02 pete_dushenski: y'know, like osx did back on 10.6 and no later.

17:03:51 trinque: "You know, when I first switched to MacOS from Linux, the fact that I was finally using an operating system that understood that tracking the mouse was the highest priority thing and that you could never, ever let that fall behind was one of the most refreshing things." << wtf kind of idiocy is this?

17:04:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55760 @ 0.00050011 = 27.8861 BTC [+] {2}

17:05:44 trinque: if you want a realtime and preemptable kernel go have it

17:07:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14722 @ 0.00050012 = 7.3628 BTC [+]

17:08:37 trinque: as I understand it these preemption systems incur a great deal of additional complexity, and some wise folks might say keeping *that* to a minimum is of the greatest importance.

17:09:40 mircea_popescu: <trinque> shinohai: somehow I'm doubtful boston's white thug population ever read anything <

17:09:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 148300 @ 0.00050822 = 75.369 BTC [+] {6}

17:10:31 pete_dushenski: !s jwz

17:10:32 assbot: 42 results for 'jwz' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jwz

17:11:34 shinohai: lol

17:13:08 shinohai: http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2015/12/03/Florida-womans-mystery-illness-traced-to-moldy-breast-implants/9591449165196/?spt=hs&or=on

17:13:17 phf: on a console you want operator issued commands to have priority over everything else, i don't think this has anything to do with the kernel. there was a set of patches for linux that gave scheduling priority to x11, and generally was supposed to make system much more responsive from operator side of things. guy quit over "giant co server needs decide what goes into kernel, i'm done"

17:13:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42338 @ 0.00051017 = 21.5996 BTC [+]

17:14:22 phf: i'm pretty sure it's one of stan's commandments of sane computing

17:15:36 trinque: phf: input is handled via interrupt right?

17:15:37 mircea_popescu: trinque i've not yet observed the mouse cursor lagging on any system that i can recall since mice became a thing.

17:15:47 trinque: nor have I.

17:16:10 mircea_popescu: i mean.... when is a desktop ever that loaded ?

17:16:17 mircea_popescu: and what the everloving fuck would you do with the mouse on a server

17:16:19 trinque: so if the OS is handling some other interrupt, it's not going to bother with the input interrupts until after

17:16:33 trinque: I read this guy as saying it should drop everything and move the cursor

17:16:52 mircea_popescu: maybe it should drop everything and "just make it work"

17:16:55 phf: trinque: a combination of system calls and interrupts, but it's up to scheduler to decide what to do and when. "handling some other interrupt" is usually not the bottle neck

17:17:39 mircea_popescu: afaik dumbass osen (such as windoze) end up looking choppy because they handle the swap poorly and the windows manager ends up conflicted with some higher priority item on "memory" access

17:18:01 mircea_popescu: this shouldn't be a problem, except they're written by ustarded children, and so they expect everything all the time or else drop to the floor and cry

17:18:14 phf: it's usually handling millions of other interrupts, and then the scheduler needs to decide "oh there's some mouse events, maybe i should prioritize them a bit"

17:19:25 mircea_popescu: !up OZmaster

17:19:36 trinque: phf: that makes sense

17:19:40 mircea_popescu: phf i don'\t think this ever happened at the scheduler level.

17:19:46 OZmaster: hi all

17:20:00 mircea_popescu: it's usually the wm going "oh, i caqn't have X ? THEN I WILL WAIT WITH EVERYTHING!!1"

17:20:22 mircea_popescu: can't update cursor position until i have a hash of all the 50000 icons i put in that folder.

17:20:28 mircea_popescu: hi OZmaster

17:20:30 mircea_popescu: who're you ?

17:20:52 OZmaster: just a trader looking for some company

17:20:57 mircea_popescu: ic

17:21:30 OZmaster: hope its not against the rules :)

17:21:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79120 @ 0.00051167 = 40.4833 BTC [+]

17:22:08 pete_dushenski: ;;google bitcoin-assets rules and regulations

17:22:09 gribble: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea ...: http://fraudsters.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/; Bitcoin assets attract HNIs, companies | Business ... - Samachar: http://www.samachar.com/Bitcoin-assets-attract-HNIs-companies-pmecN9jgiii.html; Is bitcoin legal? - CoinDesk: http://www.coindesk.com/information/is-bitcoin-legal/

17:22:28 pete_dushenski: OZmaster: waddyou trade mostly ?

17:22:30 mircea_popescu: "hnis" ?!

17:22:35 mircea_popescu: will wonders never surcease.

17:22:42 OZmaster: cable and BTC,,, some alts but not that many

17:23:00 pete_dushenski: cable ?

17:23:16 mircea_popescu: OZmaster get a pgp key reg in the wot while at it.

17:23:32 pete_dushenski: !h

17:23:32 assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot

17:23:42 pete_dushenski: ^ OZmaster

17:24:17 OZmaster: reading

17:24:28 OZmaster: cable? EUR/USD lulzzzz

17:25:36 pete_dushenski: aha.

17:25:41 kakobrekla: on bit4x?

17:26:14 OZmaster: nah

17:26:16 OZmaster: 1b

17:26:37 kakobrekla: too bad

17:26:44 mircea_popescu: lol

17:27:00 OZmaster: why?

17:27:35 OZmaster: i mean why too bad ?

17:27:42 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla runs bit4x.

17:28:24 OZmaster: oh ic

17:28:25 OZmaster: :D

17:28:27 phf: kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-12-2015#1335374 plx

17:28:27 assbot: Logged on 02-12-2015 06:12:15; phf: kakobrekla: hey, uploaded log files are busted, title fetches done by assbot have extra newlines, that correspond to newlines in the title. here's affected entry ids, http://paste.lisp.org/display/163299

17:28:36 kakobrekla: will look into it today

17:28:40 phf: thanks!

17:28:49 OZmaster: will make sure i register kakobrekla

17:29:10 kakobrekla: im not twisting your arm or anything.

17:29:28 OZmaster: never heard of it before i wanna check it out :D

17:30:46 OZmaster: oh ic u run it through an app

17:30:48 OZmaster: very nice

17:31:01 mircea_popescu: if it doesn't work you can let us know here, we'll twist kako's arms over it for many years to come :D

17:31:34 *: kakobrekla puts arms in pocket

17:32:10 pete_dushenski: those are either giant pockets or very tiny arms

17:32:36 kakobrekla: virtual arms

17:33:11 pete_dushenski: aha like asciilifeform's shiva arms

17:33:32 kakobrekla: yeah, only i dont have that many.

17:34:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 214764 @ 0.00049726 = 106.7935 BTC [-] {5}

17:34:13 pete_dushenski: next reincaration

17:34:33 pete_dushenski: reincarNation*

17:36:22 mircea_popescu: !up Presstrump

17:36:48 OZmaster: EUR is nice today

17:36:57 OZmaster: cool trades to catch

17:37:02 Presstrump: hehe, thanks mircea_popescu ;)

17:37:54 OZmaster: do you guys also mine BTC/alts?

17:40:16 Presstrump: OZmaster, no, they pretty much talk about how everything BTC related is a scam.

17:40:40 kakobrekla: is it not?

17:40:45 OZmaster: lulz, well cant argue much there

17:41:06 Presstrump: with the exception of MPEx, that is ;)

17:41:09 pete_dushenski: OZmaster: there's not much in the way of btc miner representation amongst the regulars here. as for alts, the folks here are more likely to short them than mine them.

17:41:27 mircea_popescu: most sane miners don't advertise this, either.

17:41:50 pete_dushenski: ^

17:42:34 OZmaster: i didnt mean as advertisement was just so a question

17:43:05 OZmaster: mircea_popescu why u mean that they dont "advertise" it ?

17:43:13 mircea_popescu: yeah. just saying, if someone's claiming to be a miner, odds are they're a scammer.

17:43:16 OZmaster: is it dangerous to let people know one is mining?

17:43:20 mircea_popescu: obviously.

17:43:28 OZmaster: huh why?

17:43:28 Presstrump: alts only exist to extract BTC from n00bs

17:44:07 OZmaster: oh u surely mean all the cloudmining sites?

17:44:15 mircea_popescu: mno, i mean actual miners.

17:45:00 OZmaster: how could they "use" the term miner to scam something:S i'm totaly not folowing now

17:46:32 mircea_popescu: ok, lets see if we can make sense of this.

17:47:36 mircea_popescu: 1. miners are key points of the bitcoin infrastructure. unlike traditional infrastructure such as the hoover dam or the pentagon, the miners do not have to be physically discernible.

17:47:38 pete_dushenski: http://i.imgur.com/flgQkam.webm << hottie

17:47:39 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJ8u2H )

17:47:56 mircea_popescu: the same exact incentives exist to attack all of these. consequently, there exists exactly no incentive for a miner to advertise ; and strong incentive not to.

17:48:18 OZmaster: oh ic ic

17:48:29 mircea_popescu: 2. conversely, all confidence games are predicated on the same process : "is it called a confidence game because i'm supposed to give you my confidence ?" "no. because i give yo umine".

17:49:07 mircea_popescu: so... yeah. all con men start by breaking a minor taboo of this sort. the widest known is the "make money" derp, who can't cease talking about how much money he made bla bla.

17:49:25 mircea_popescu: has he ? besides the fucking point. talking about how much you make is his way of getting under your skin.

17:49:48 OZmaster: i see what u mean now

17:49:56 mircea_popescu: aite.

17:50:53 pete_dushenski: !up OZmaster

17:50:57 OZmaster: ty

17:51:29 pete_dushenski: np

17:52:49 OZmaster: well not to mention the cloudmineing sites then, ponzis 101

17:52:51 OZmaster: each one ofem

17:55:25 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2012/the-problem-with-pmbs-ie-perpetual-mining-bonds/ <<< exactly nothing has changed since 2012 but the name

17:55:26 assbot: The problem with PMBs, ie "Perpetual Mining Bonds" on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJ9qUH )

17:55:39 mircea_popescu: scammers still trying to sell pmbs to redditards, with mixed success.

17:58:01 deedbot-: [fraudsters] Ever heard of Ion Iliescu ? - http://fraudsters.com/2015/ever-heard-of-ion-iliescu/

17:59:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00051012 = 33.4129 BTC [+] {2}

18:01:04 OZmaster: yeh well i know they are, i got fked myself majourly by one

18:02:23 ben_vulpes: "As part of the Affordable Care Act, the tax is intended to help fund expanded coverage for the uninsured and to contain health care spending by discouraging employers from offering overly generous benefits." << thou shalt not enjoy life

18:02:40 ben_vulpes: "The so-called “Cadillac Tax” will be levied in 2018 on companies that offer the “richest” benefits."

18:03:29 mircea_popescu: lmao

18:03:51 mircea_popescu: everyone must have obamacare. EVERYONE.

18:04:22 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://49.media.tumblr.com/991545fd969b9cdc182581669453bfd6/tumblr_n1vtt6LUHV1rux8ebo1_400.gif

18:04:22 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZ6HhN )

18:04:50 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: lel. "badge engineering tax"

18:12:22 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPO0LMAnc4 << 'nigerian style'

18:12:22 assbot: Adele's "HELLO'' cover by DAVID JONES DAVID - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJbewZ )

18:22:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28027 @ 0.00050393 = 14.1236 BTC [-] {2}

18:23:46 kakobrekla: "It's like pre-Sumerian civilization," says Brad Cox, who wrote the software for Steve Jobs NeXT computer and is a professor at George Mason University. "The way we build software is in the hunter-gatherer stage."

18:23:55 kakobrekla: John Munson, a software engineer and professor of computer science at the University of Idaho, is not quite so generous. "Cave art," he says. "It's primitive. We supposedly teach computer science. There's no science here at all."

18:24:07 kakobrekla: unexpected honesty http://www.fastcompany.com/28121/they-write-right-stuff

18:24:08 assbot: They Write the Right Stuff ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZ9yr5 )

18:25:29 kakobrekla: and for mp > For one thing, 12 of the 22 people in the room are women, many of them senior managers or senior technical staff.

18:26:39 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:26:42 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336440 << routinely on my box

18:26:42 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:15:37; mircea_popescu: trinque i've not yet observed the mouse cursor lagging on any system that i can recall since mice became a thing.

18:26:58 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336442 << mine. for fucks sake.

18:26:58 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:16:10; mircea_popescu: i mean.... when is a desktop ever that loaded ?

18:27:43 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336445 << fuck the cursor. but THE KEYBOARD - yes. see also: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=215

18:27:43 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:16:33; trinque: I read this guy as saying it should drop everything and move the cursor

18:27:44 assbot: Loper OS » First Law of Sane Personal Computing ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJdAfi )

18:27:59 shinohai: https://blog.ethereum.org/2015/12/03/how-to-build-your-own-cryptocurrency/ <<<LOL

18:28:00 assbot: Ethereum: how to build your own cryptocurrency without coding ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJdEvu )

18:28:47 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336448 << swap isn't much of a thing on a reasonably modern box with multiple GB of ram

18:28:47 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 17:17:39; mircea_popescu: afaik dumbass osen (such as windoze) end up looking choppy because they handle the swap poorly and the windows manager ends up conflicted with some higher priority item on "memory" access

18:32:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00049404 = 8.7939 BTC [-]

18:37:40 ascii_field: 'Otherwise, the hour-long meeting is sober and revealing, a brief window on the culture. For one thing, 12 of the 22 people in the room are women, many of them senior managers or senior technical staff. The on-board shuttle group, with its stability and professionalism, seems particularly appealing to women programmers.'

18:39:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.00049432 = 31.9331 BTC [+] {4}

18:44:12 ascii_field: engineering types (and financial folks even) have masturbated to the u.s. space program for generations, but the facts do not wholly support this.

18:44:31 ascii_field: and even to the extent that they do - the actual causes are misunderstood.

18:45:09 ascii_field: YES you can get mighty good results from: teenager-REMOVAL, tard-removal, jwz-removal, microshit-removal, webdev-removal.

18:45:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96700 @ 0.00049305 = 47.6779 BTC [-] {2}

18:45:39 ascii_field: the successes in the software world, few as they are, are largely successes of EXTERMINATORS.

18:57:45 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla tell you what, of all tech companies, all bitcoin companies, and all companies in general, mpex stuff has the most women involved.

18:57:46 mircea_popescu: so...

18:59:40 mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> the successes in the software world, few as they are, are largely successes of EXTERMINATORS. << my view also.

19:12:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165750 @ 0.00049238 = 81.612 BTC [-] {6}

19:13:13 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:14:23 ascii_field: speaking of this, i dreamed last night that i was playing a pc game called 'plague', where you are - as printed on the crate - a fella trying to escape from plague, and score points also for containing the spread thereof in various ways

19:18:18 ascii_field: when i woke up, thought that it would also be interesting if you could play 'as'... plague

19:23:03 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: oh and it turns out that i'm a moron: https://www.iqt.org/portfolio

19:28:35 ascii_field: and just when i thought that the snake oils couldn't get any more laughable,

19:28:36 ascii_field: 'PrivateEye enlists computer vision technology to actively protect computer or tablet screens against unauthorized viewers by detecting and alerting the user when an eavesdropper attempts to read the display.'

19:29:16 ascii_field: ( optiolabs.com )

19:29:54 ascii_field: 'EYES WILL ROAM, BUT YOUR SENSITIVE DATA WON’T.' << actual motherfucking quote

19:31:18 ascii_field: and yet moar lulzy, even,

19:31:20 ascii_field: 'Narrative Science is the leader in automated narrative generation for the enterprise. Powered by artificial intelligence, its Quill platform analyzes data from disparate sources, understands what is important, then automatically generates perfectly written narratives to convey meaning from the data for any intended consumer or business audience, at unlimited scale.'

19:31:25 ascii_field: ^ our filipinos!

19:31:35 ascii_field: here they are.

19:36:35 phf: mircea_popescu: in x11, wm is a separate process, so it should fall under usual scheduling rules. i.e. if it misbehaves, kernel will take control away from it

19:37:07 phf: but if kernel treats your wm same way it treats apache server...

19:38:39 ascii_field: http://www.sonitustechnologies.com << ye olde radio tooth

19:38:41 assbot: SONITUS ... ( http://bit.ly/1m1SzaO )

19:42:30 liquidassets: danielpbarron can you give me spiritual reference for "god remembers" and "god forgets"

19:42:58 ascii_field: http://zeuss.com/our-story << u.s. tax dollarz at wurk !1111

19:42:59 assbot: Our Story | Zeuss ... ( http://bit.ly/1lCoPAP )

19:43:12 ascii_field: 'PS. If you got this far you just read 818 words that I wrote late one night after midnight with a tired jack russell passed out in my lap. Thank you for being interested in what we are doing.'

19:43:49 ascii_field: http://zeuss.com/zteam << compleat with chix

19:43:50 assbot: Team | Zeuss ... ( http://bit.ly/1lCoXjT )

19:44:40 phf: !up ascii_field

19:45:35 phf: hmm

19:45:58 phf: !up ascii_field

19:46:01 phf: ah

19:48:26 mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> ^ our filipinos! <<< exactly like the mechanical turk of yore, the faux ai scam is still with us.

19:48:31 ascii_field: https://www.narrativescience.com/press-release-aml << glorious thing, re: same

19:48:32 assbot: Press Release: AML Solution | Narrative Science ... ( http://bit.ly/1lCpBOu )

19:48:43 ascii_field: they peddle automated idiot usgistic boilerplate...

19:49:01 mircea_popescu: and who the fuck is jack russell

19:49:11 mircea_popescu: o don't tell me, let me guess. the guy's caniche

19:49:57 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it may be a dog

19:50:32 mircea_popescu: if only the soviets had "technological innovators" such as these

19:50:33 mircea_popescu: oh wait.

19:50:35 mircea_popescu: they did.

19:51:13 mircea_popescu: "CHICAGO, IL ? November 10, 2015 ? Narrative Science, the leader in advanced natural language generation for the enterprise, today announced the launch of Quill for Anti-Money Laundering (AML). According to recent research from KPMG, spending in North America to combat money-laundering activities has risen by 71 percent over the past three years and is predicted to keep increasing."

19:51:39 mircea_popescu: lost in all of this bathwater, any actual money to wash. the us is about as poor as argentina.

19:51:44 mircea_popescu: but whatever, hay mas futuro.

19:52:32 ascii_field: recall that to the 'aml' folks, ~all~ money is american

19:52:45 mircea_popescu: except they don't have any.

19:52:58 ascii_field: the thieves' hands are of finite-length, yes. appetites - no.

19:53:26 mircea_popescu: all the appetites in the world and five bitcets will buy them a cup of coffee

19:53:29 mircea_popescu: if the shop's open.

19:53:56 ascii_field: the idea was, nominally, appetite + bitcents + wunderwaffen

19:55:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105900 @ 0.00049351 = 52.2627 BTC [+] {3}

19:55:44 *: mircea_popescu is looking forward to when congress finally buys some "quill" to keep up with the "ever increasing needs" of the legislative process.

19:56:04 mircea_popescu: a century of laws nobody read has really been long enough. time for laws nobody actually wrote.

19:56:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18520 @ 0.00049472 = 9.1622 BTC [+]

19:58:27 liquidassets: MP where's your quote on what a 'walk of shame' is?

19:58:48 liquidassets: I need to get better at this searching thing...apologies

19:58:58 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336604 << could you be more specific? there are many such references

19:58:58 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 19:42:30; liquidassets: danielpbarron can you give me spiritual reference for "god remembers" and "god forgets"

19:59:20 mircea_popescu: !s walk of shame from:mircea

19:59:22 assbot: 0 results for 'walk of shame from:mircea' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=walk+of+shame+from%3Amircea

19:59:27 mircea_popescu: apparently, nowhere.

19:59:47 liquidassets: danielpbarron you seem to quote the bible frequently, is this because you know it so well? or is there an easy reference/tool to use

20:00:27 liquidassets: NO MP you said it about shame being a personal thing like guilt..or something. About the girl walking down the street feeling shame or not..

20:00:53 danielpbarron: a little of both. In order to use the easy reference I had to already have intimate knowledge of the text

20:01:27 danielpbarron: i search on biblegateway sometimes for key words, although i don't like to actually link to that site since it's javascript nightmare garbage

20:01:50 danielpbarron: and sometimes i do a google search for site:atruechurch.info whatever_keyword

20:01:51 liquidassets: ugh....how do we save these texts...?

20:03:25 mircea_popescu: "It?s hard to overstate how bad an idea it is for a compiler to use strange heuristics about code structure to guess the developer?s intent."

20:03:28 mircea_popescu: nigga...say wut ?

20:03:36 mircea_popescu: this is ALL the compiler ever fucking does, are you kidding me ?

20:04:04 liquidassets: that's why I need a link god dammit

20:04:08 mircea_popescu: this "we labeled this function comprehension so now the program is comprehending" thing goes to the fucking core of things, it's like the only wife computer dorks ever had huh.

20:04:30 thestringpuller: buddy of mine who isn't into bitcoin (but is into crypto) said this: hat's why I worry about "widespread bitcoin adoption" - read that as: banks/govs hijack

20:04:32 liquidassets: I'm searching you

20:04:35 thestringpuller: bitcoin

20:05:06 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336372 << kinda why I can't really bring myself to study C/C++

20:05:06 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 14:58:26; asciilifeform: but compiler optimization retardation is not limited to the effects described therein

20:06:35 liquidassets: thank you danielpbarron I haven't tried searching the bible but hopefully 12 years of vacation bible school are still good for something

20:07:17 punkman: especially this part, "Volatile is of very limited usefulness on a machine that is out-of-order, multiprocessor, or both", SO WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE BOTHER

20:08:00 thestringpuller: volatile keyword was very useful for interrupts on the Gameboy Advance

20:10:04 thestringpuller: that's about my extent of use

20:10:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51730 @ 0.00049511 = 25.612 BTC [+] {2}

20:12:30 punkman: "Old gcc upgrade: Bug fixes, some speed, some intrinsics. New gcc upgrade: I AM THE LORD THY GCC AND I WILL BREAK YOUR SYSTEM. FEAR MY WRATH."

20:14:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110600 @ 0.00049968 = 55.2646 BTC [+] {2}

20:17:05 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

20:17:07 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336635 << yer too late, we have this already. except it's armies of intern gurlz, vs. shanninizers (gurlz are cheaper)

20:17:07 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 19:56:04; mircea_popescu: a century of laws nobody read has really been long enough. time for laws nobody actually wrote.

20:18:26 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336661 << 'cause you can't implement the os without ?

20:18:26 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 20:07:17; punkman: especially this part, "Volatile is of very limited usefulness on a machine that is out-of-order, multiprocessor, or both", SO WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE BOTHER

20:19:49 punkman: sad turtles all the way down

20:21:54 ascii_field: liquishit all the way down.

20:22:48 mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> we have this already. except it's armies of intern gurlz, vs. shanninizers (gurlz are cheaper) <<< you recall, i actually published the minutes of how this goes.

20:23:00 ascii_field: hm?

20:23:11 mircea_popescu: ;;google Daphna Waxman

20:23:11 gribble: SEC.gov | SEC Charges Three Firms With Violating Custody Rule: http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370540098359; SEC Knocks on MPEx's Door, Popescu Doesn't Budge | Finance ...: http://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/exchange/sec-knocks-on-mpexs-door-popescu-doesnt-budge/; SEC gets on the Bitcoin investigation bandwagon ... - Washington Post: (1 more message)

20:23:18 ascii_field: ah, them

20:23:36 mircea_popescu: awww, look at her! intern gurl hired to get people to talk to the phone people at her office, is now internets famous!Q

20:23:41 ascii_field: the ones i was thinking of were the nameless chix who crapped out 'obamacare', which fills a book case, and similar

20:24:06 ascii_field: by hand, in microshit 'word'

20:24:09 mircea_popescu: there's no difference.

20:24:17 ascii_field: not really, aha

20:24:27 mircea_popescu: this one'd be equally nameless, if i weren't here to break the inane anon-government convention

20:25:35 mircea_popescu: (have you ever noticed that nobody ever fucking publishes the names of the agentura ? if say a police officer is ever NAMED he's either in a fringe local paper in a red state or else accused of something. it's never "the swat team, composed of x y z and k" or so forth. )

20:25:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00049999 = 2.125 BTC [+]

20:32:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13987 @ 0.00050321 = 7.0384 BTC [+]

20:37:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41818 @ 0.00050342 = 21.052 BTC [+] {2}

20:51:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95620 @ 0.0005015 = 47.9534 BTC [-] {2}

21:00:44 mircea_popescu: ascii_field http://fraudsters.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-november-2015-statement/

21:00:45 assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), November 2015 Statement on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IJzpeM )

21:03:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19930 @ 0.00049949 = 9.9548 BTC [-]

21:04:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61770 @ 0.00050559 = 31.2303 BTC [+] {2}

21:12:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109340 @ 0.00050622 = 55.3501 BTC [+] {3}

21:16:46 deedbot-: [fraudsters] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), November 2015 Statement - http://fraudsters.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-november-2015-statement/

21:19:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43064 @ 0.00050557 = 21.7719 BTC [-]

21:29:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173100 @ 0.00049306 = 85.3487 BTC [-] {4}

21:41:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63400 @ 0.00049183 = 31.182 BTC [-] {3}

21:48:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 345778 @ 0.00049065 = 169.656 BTC [-] {9}

21:49:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5322 @ 0.00048728 = 2.5933 BTC [-]

21:56:53 mircea_popescu: ascii_field "At some point I may do a similar surgical extraction for GPG 1.4.10?s entropy gatherer, but this is a very different project." << i have nfi why you'd be including "software entropy generators".

21:57:45 mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/sov/3.jpg << notbad chocolates.

21:57:47 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1lgfcIw )

22:03:01 mircea_popescu: (Sometimes I think that perhaps one of the best things I could do with my life is: find a gigantic pile of proprietary software that was a trade secret, and start handing out copies on a street corner so it wouldn't be a trade secret any more, and perhaps that would be a much more efficient way for me to give people new free software than actually writing it myself; but everyone is too cowardly to even take it.)

22:03:22 mircea_popescu: start reading rms' side of the "how i [didn't really] invent emacs" for the lulz, stay for the glory.

22:03:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117217 @ 0.00048642 = 57.0167 BTC [-] {2}

22:03:34 mircea_popescu: ( http://www.free-soft.org/gpl_history/ for the curious)

22:03:35 assbot: The History of the GNU General Public License ... ( http://bit.ly/1lggkfi )

22:33:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73388 @ 0.00048909 = 35.8933 BTC [+] {2}

23:01:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 247371 @ 0.00048613 = 120.2545 BTC [-] {6}

23:02:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0004835 = 19.9686 BTC [-] {2}

23:09:09 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/chess-grandmaster-from-shrewsbury-allegedly-paid-young-son-to-drink/article_fd58736b-3941-507c-8b73-a9e41378588f.html

23:09:10 assbot: Chess grandmaster from Shrewsbury allegedly paid young son to drink wine : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1XHiwxz )

23:09:23 BingoBoingo: Win >> "Catlett said police have been unable to reach him since the charges were filed Monday."

23:21:42 mod6: ;;bc,stats

23:21:46 gribble: Current Blocks: 386738 | Current Difficulty: 7.272278064254718E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 387071 | Next Difficulty In: 333 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 5 hours, 16 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

23:22:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85800 @ 0.00049283 = 42.2848 BTC [+]

23:26:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52850 @ 0.0004931 = 26.0603 BTC [+] {2}

23:57:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00049297 = 20.2118 BTC [-]