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04:36:22 funkenstein_: !s icedove

04:36:23 assbot: 0 results for 'icedove' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=icedove

04:40:12 funkenstein_: https://www.academia.edu/30714583/Grading_Gradients_Degradation_Grace_Part_2_Materiality_Phenomenology_and_Cosmology_

04:40:14 assbot: Grading, Gradients, Degradation, Grace (Part 2: Materiality, Phenomenology, and Cosmology) | Paul Kockelman - Academia.edu ... ( http://bit.ly/2iKsEXo )

04:41:56 asciilifeform: “how much goodness there is here inside your whitened cave . . .”

04:41:58 asciilifeform: lulzy

04:43:16 funkenstein_: wow you're quick :)

04:43:51 asciilifeform: moar impatient than quick

04:44:52 *: asciilifeform exile from academia, does the 'triage a paper in 30sec' thing

04:45:11 funkenstein_: i thought that style was for those still in the tower :)

04:45:36 funkenstein_: just check the references and see if you are in there, otherwise ignore

04:45:42 asciilifeform: lolno.

04:46:35 funkenstein_: see e.g. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2017#1464833

04:46:35 assbot: Logged on 04-01-2017 17:04:32; asciilifeform: by this point if you make noises of 'being in crypto' and ain't in my wot, you're a shitstain

04:47:36 funkenstein_: in much easier reading, my favorite of recent mickens rereads:

04:47:50 funkenstein_: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1309_14-17_mickens.pdf

04:47:52 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/2iKzigj )

04:48:38 asciilifeform: yeah d00d's riot

04:58:00 funkenstein_: the phrase "who are you again" generally is used to indicate "I wish to remain ignorant"

04:58:10 funkenstein_: :D

04:58:46 asciilifeform: funkenstein_: asciilifeform is a compulsive collector of crackpotteries, charlatanries, of 1,001 types, you must be thinking of some other folx.

04:59:07 funkenstein_: yes probably I am

05:00:03 funkenstein_: I also enjoy such collecting :)

05:00:26 funkenstein_: do you read "The Fortean Times" ?

05:00:33 asciilifeform: did at one point.

05:00:42 funkenstein_: still good

05:00:50 asciilifeform: keelynet!

05:01:02 asciilifeform: remember it?

05:01:24 funkenstein_: new to me, thanks :)

05:25:54 punkman: "Young people often come up to me and say that “the cloud is the future.” This is proof that young people are idiots. In this talk, I also describe why the middle aged people who built the cloud are idiots. I don’t say anything bad about old people, mainly because I love their charming stories and their delightful insistence that ATM machines were created by the Devil."

05:26:36 punkman: https://vimeo.com/180568023

05:26:37 assbot: Life As A Developer: My Code Does Not Work Because I Am A Victim Of Complex Societal Factors That Are Beyond My Control.... on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/2iKEctJ )

05:27:47 punkman: gotta wonder how he still works at microsoft

05:34:25 punkman: "A young man, for pride and vanity, separates from the flock and aims to build himself, and for the glorification of his own pride and vanity, a church apart. The secret young men do not know, and generally with their perdition find, is that the church as a body, in congregation and comunion, is protected by the Lord with immense, unspeakable power from the immense, unspeakable but

05:34:25 punkman: ultimately not sufficient lures of the Enemy."

05:35:29 punkman: well the church is going strong

05:42:33 funkenstein_: is that from mickens again?

05:42:37 punkman: nice to have "enemy", so the church can sing protective chant "in other lulz, herr kako loves us enough to try to make own FUCKGOATS and try to undercut"

05:42:49 punkman: no that's mp

05:43:22 funkenstein_: huh i didn't recognize the style

05:43:34 funkenstein_: a quote perhaps

05:45:04 funkenstein_: "the pride before the fall"

05:45:12 funkenstein_: that one from mickens ;)

05:45:54 funkenstein_: very little church action around here

05:46:12 funkenstein_: stateside the nice churches are being repurposed as bars and restaurants

05:46:27 funkenstein_: while the church goers are ushered into prefab box buildings

05:46:59 funkenstein_: if it's a place of music, I support it

06:02:20 punkman: http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/08/19/the-miniature-roadside-chapels-of-greece/

06:02:21 assbot: The Miniature Roadside Chapels of Greece ... ( http://bit.ly/2iKFm8F )

06:03:36 punkman: "built to remember a victim of a traffic accident victim"

06:10:09 punkman: met guy that build full-size roadside chapel in memory of dead son

06:10:41 funkenstein_: beautiful

06:10:47 punkman: biggest cost is the iconography

06:10:56 funkenstein_: some care for the eye of the passing stranger

06:12:23 punkman: asciilifeform: btw I was asking for single-board/smaller goats, so I can stuff them in laptop

06:12:39 punkman: can haz dimensions?

06:12:49 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2017#1464936 < wait what this is for real!? l0l

06:12:49 assbot: Logged on 05-01-2017 05:42:37; punkman: nice to have "enemy", so the church can sing protective chant "in other lulz, herr kako loves us enough to try to make own FUCKGOATS and try to undercut"

06:14:07 kakobrekla: let me reiterate for folks with chronic reading comprehension problems; i never said i will be making alfs contraption to sell, possibly for self but even that is not a sure thing

06:14:31 kakobrekla: next on fake news qntra site; "extra extra, kako is unable to make fuckgoats!!!1111"

06:14:37 kakobrekla: lmao, let the kinds have fun.

06:14:42 kakobrekla: kids*

06:25:25 funkenstein_: "time travelling grace hopper" wow great talk, guy speaks just like he writes

06:50:46 punkman: "adobe represents the weaponization of complexity"

07:02:42 punkman: http://www.clifford.at/libxsvf/ can bitbang jtag with the usb2serial dongle

07:02:43 assbot: Lib(X)SVF - A library for implementing SVF and XSVF JTAG players ... ( http://bit.ly/2iKMAcQ )

11:06:18 asciilifeform: punkman: it worx, is spiffy

11:09:07 punkman: asciilifeform: you tested it? cool

11:40:44 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-01-2017#1464953 << you will have to build this with own hands. and expect 0 techsupport.

11:40:44 assbot: Logged on 05-01-2017 06:12:23; punkman: asciilifeform: btw I was asking for single-board/smaller goats, so I can stuff them in laptop

11:41:22 asciilifeform: and your lappy already has a nonauditable intel rng, if you can live with the nonsense, use that, it costs 0.

11:41:24 punkman: I'll try with the modular one first

11:43:37 asciilifeform: 135 x 30 mm.

11:43:41 punkman: I guess the hard part will be finding where to plug it internally

11:43:48 asciilifeform: usb ?

11:44:07 punkman: yeah but without taking out any of the usb ports

11:44:31 asciilifeform: i have nfi why you'd want it inside and near the rf noisy bits

11:46:13 punkman: so bad idea?

11:46:24 asciilifeform: imho, pretty bad

11:46:57 punkman: did you do any tests on how it works under heavy rf noise

11:47:38 adlai: building a tinfoil hat is what, conspiratard 101?

11:47:42 asciilifeform: punkman: i did, it is unaffected in any detectable way. i'd still be concerned re the undetectables.

11:47:56 asciilifeform: adlai: ever build an analogue circuit of whatever type ?

11:48:02 asciilifeform: or taken apart a radio ?

11:48:08 adlai: yes, no

11:48:30 adlai: but one of the circuits i built was a radio, so i guess i took it apart to build the next one?

11:49:38 adlai: (this was from a kit when i was ~7yo, later i built from real parts, then outgrew the phase like a retarted teenager)

11:49:53 asciilifeform: pop open a tunable 'scanner', is the shield on the amp 'tinfoil hat' ? how well it works when you pull it out ?

11:50:30 adlai: would his lordship prefer rhetorical answer, or admission of ignorance?

11:50:45 *: adlai > lunch

11:51:41 asciilifeform: iirc adlai ordered a FG, when he gets his, he is invited to try shields-off vs shields-on etc.

11:53:06 *: asciilifeform bbl

13:03:08 pankkake: ;;tall

13:03:14 kakobrekla: ;;gameover

13:03:14 gribble: Error: "gameover" is not a valid command.

13:03:16 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 996.0, vol: 29203.65491874 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 980.0, vol: 14118.09542 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 990.71, vol: 78683.42333254 | GDAX BTCUSD last: 993.47, vol: 19681.2681071 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 1007.394696, vol: 4927418.65490000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 990.0, vol: 7697.26747096 | Gemini BTCUSD last: 995.0, vol: 3097.56505138 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

13:03:24 pankkake: haha

13:04:15 pankkake: this makes bitbet entertaining, at least

13:11:36 kakobrekla: hehe

19:48:43 pankkake: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/01/05/indian-government-preparing-fight-digital-black-economy-involving-bitcoin/

19:48:44 assbot: Indian Government is Preparing to Fight Digital Black Economy Involving Bitcoin - Deep Dot Web ... ( http://bit.ly/2iMVc2u )

20:04:33 adlai: asciilifeform: out of curiosity is the shipping date public? i'm curious how long it takes the other labs to work their magic

20:05:20 asciilifeform: adlai: i have genuinely nfi re the specific delay, it's a sum of component vendor ship times, the board house's, & the assembly house's

20:05:30 asciilifeform: this is unavoidable in small-run manufacture

20:06:02 asciilifeform: worst case could be as long as 6 wks.

20:06:20 asciilifeform: (from next monday)

20:09:36 adlai: oic. well i'll stop refreshing the page... if there is one thing the prewebnet got right, twas the ability to push notes rather than waiting for strings to be pulled

20:10:02 asciilifeform: adlai: i will ping you personally when your unit ships.

20:10:23 adlai: thank you!

20:10:25 asciilifeform: np.

20:11:08 asciilifeform: (there is a number of folx ahead of adlai in the queue but the next batch will cover all of them)