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00:02:09 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

00:02:15 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 457.63, vol: 5296.08506762 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 463.23, vol: 7809.90042 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 458.9899, vol: 3441.52850173 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 465.25, vol: 25.69458947 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 458.85, vol: 2396.79880000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 461.81827, vol: 5.1169521 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 461.79725496, vol: 65.65648564 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

00:02:19 BingoBoingo: ;;more

00:02:20 gribble: 460.352078641

00:05:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43971 @ 0.00099083 = 43.5678 BTC [+] {6}

00:19:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 373 @ 0.00037501 = 0.1399 BTC [+] {2}

00:22:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03363332 = 0.4036 BTC [+] {5}

00:22:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.04999999 = 0.3 BTC [+] {2}

00:42:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1050 @ 0.00038737 = 0.4067 BTC [-] {3}

01:46:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03399999 = 0.17 BTC [+]

01:46:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.04999999 = 0.25 BTC [-]

01:55:34 KRS-1: .bait

01:55:36 ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/e691567bc77daf519f44f5cdd030da4b/tumblr_mt7ultz3IT1rr6uq1o1_1280.jpg

01:57:39 B007: .bait

01:57:41 ozbot: http://37.media.tumblr.com/38b332533cf7b2d0f7158a684e36d16a/tumblr_msyv47ITUw1su77deo1_500.jpg

01:57:45 B007: .bait

01:57:45 B007: .bait

01:57:46 B007: .bait

01:57:46 B007: .bait

01:57:46 ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/7c20d1f2601e236ed7fcf08c86225d30/tumblr_mt6a5oMJqQ1qzs5qao1_500.jpg

01:58:19 B007: how's it going KRS-1

01:58:31 kakobrekla: ill tell you how. spammy.

01:58:58 B007: just a side of spam

01:59:44 B007: my baits were hotter

01:59:51 B007: er

02:02:51 B007: http://newsbtc.com/2014/04/06/search-engine-duckduckgo-will-now-show-bitcoin-prices/

02:05:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]

02:05:47 MisterE: I'm downloading GoT right NOW!!!

02:06:06 B007: ok

02:08:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03406666 = 0.2044 BTC [+] {4}

02:17:44 cazalla: MisterE: ty, forgot about that

02:18:00 cazalla: wife is off to mums group too so perfect timing

02:18:25 MisterE: nice!!

02:19:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00099262 = 20.6465 BTC [+]

02:27:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36395 @ 0.0009953 = 36.2239 BTC [+] {4}

02:28:57 Mats_cd03: tonight's game of thrones spoiler: everybody dies

02:29:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05580798 = 0.1116 BTC [-]

02:29:17 Mats_cd03: (not really, don't cry)

02:30:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 230 @ 0.00209747 = 0.4824 BTC [+]

02:34:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.031589 = 0.2527 BTC [-] {2}

02:37:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00099878 = 31.4616 BTC [+] {4}

02:47:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 45 @ 0.00310647 = 0.1398 BTC [-] {7}

02:50:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 861 @ 0.00087997 = 0.7577 BTC [-] {3}

03:00:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.05581 = 0.7255 BTC [+] {2}

03:01:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 18 @ 0.08299776 = 1.494 BTC [-]

03:02:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+]

03:32:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00100106 = 18.0691 BTC [+] {2}

03:35:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.05321432 = 0.3725 BTC [-] {2}

03:39:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05098995 = 0.153 BTC [+] {3}

03:40:44 benkay: mpoe above 0.001

03:43:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10093 @ 0.00100141 = 10.1072 BTC [+]

03:45:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0513 = 0.1026 BTC [+]

03:49:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22495 @ 0.00100202 = 22.5404 BTC [+]

04:23:04 Mats_cd03: ily benkay

04:27:58 benkay: what is it tonight, Mats_cd03 -- mdma?

04:28:41 Mats_cd03: what are drugs

04:55:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.02006291 = 0.1404 BTC [-] {2}

05:33:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05199999 = 0.104 BTC [+] {2}

05:34:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 15 @ 0.0075 = 0.1125 BTC [+]

05:43:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05208 = 0.2604 BTC [+] {2}

05:49:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 669 @ 0.00015314 = 0.1025 BTC [+] {2}

05:51:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00015314 = 0.1531 BTC [+]

05:55:35 mircea_popescu: mjr_1 dood fix your connection

05:56:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00100406 = 27.9129 BTC [+]

05:58:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05845612 = 0.1169 BTC [+] {2}

06:00:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]

06:04:00 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

06:04:02 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 456.11, Best ask: 459.55, Bid-ask spread: 3.44000, Last trade: 456.11, 24 hour volume: 5779.76299101, 24 hour low: 450.2, 24 hour high: 464.6, 24 hour vwap: 456.121300051

06:06:01 mircea_popescu: this is getting to be lulzy, for the past however many weeks it's been glued to 450, people keep coming in asking omg why is it dropping!11

06:06:19 mircea_popescu: i guess if you're waiting for it to make you rich and got rent to pay, there's no dropping like stability.

06:11:35 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/kim_lesch/status/453034509391646720

06:11:35 ozbot: Twitter / kim_lesch: Our 1 bdrm flat is listed for ...

06:11:42 mircea_popescu: in other news, us rents now $330 ?!

06:12:28 mircea_popescu: ah nz nm.

06:17:02 cazalla: damn, NZ is expensive

06:17:51 cazalla: i was paying 350 a week here in melbourne (15m from city) for 2 bedroom

06:18:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00100402 = 5.2711 BTC [-]

06:28:25 mircea_popescu: i usually pay about 1k a quarter for a 2 bedroom. cause wtf.

06:28:59 mircea_popescu: it's what living space is worth.

06:44:59 cazalla: that might get you a car space here

06:48:07 Mats_cd03: i lived in boston a bit...that would get you half a car space

06:48:50 Mats_cd03: for a few weeks

06:49:01 Rick__: arij is here?

06:49:44 Mats_cd03: cheap compared to manhattan

06:50:35 cazalla: hopefully the ass drops out of the aussie market so i can buy my supernode castle in tasmania cheaper

07:23:47 keonne: mircea_popescu: i got the joke a little late, hence the delayed lol

07:24:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 481 @ 0.00029369 = 0.1413 BTC [-] {5}

07:25:11 keonne: I then started on a path off researching the histoy of the bar mitzvah; and was suitably disgusted

07:27:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2700 @ 0.00027748 = 0.7492 BTC [-] {6}

07:31:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00100406 = 26.206 BTC [+]

07:42:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1218 @ 0.00243136 = 2.9614 BTC [-] {16}

07:45:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 200 @ 0.00240002 = 0.48 BTC [-]

08:32:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05249 = 0.105 BTC [+] {2}

08:59:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0315895 = 0.1264 BTC [-] {2}

09:20:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9312 @ 0.00100283 = 9.3384 BTC [-] {2}

09:31:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19150 @ 0.00100059 = 19.1613 BTC [-]

10:02:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26438 @ 0.00100059 = 26.4536 BTC [-]

10:13:50 MisterE: hmm zetacoin

10:32:20 jurov: kakobrekla pls kick mjr1 mjr2

10:34:22 jurov: ;;bc,stats

10:34:25 gribble: Current Blocks: 294632 | Current Difficulty: 6.119726089128147E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 296351 | Next Difficulty In: 1719 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 9 hours, 13 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6348294504.56 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.73495

11:32:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0550089 = 0.275 BTC [-] {2}

11:37:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32859 @ 0.00099931 = 32.8363 BTC [-] {2}

11:43:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 383 @ 0.00170919 = 0.6546 BTC [-] {6}

11:51:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 451 @ 0.00084058 = 0.3791 BTC [-] {4}

11:53:18 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

11:53:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 547 @ 0.00023273 = 0.1273 BTC [-] {3}

11:53:24 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 459.53, vol: 5183.60938032 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 455.335, vol: 10198.46727 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 457.6, vol: 3120.00026501 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 460.02, vol: 31.1161392 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 455.8297, vol: 1758.32270000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 465.49125, vol: 1.98585071 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 461.179874, vol: 33.80007519 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

11:53:29 BingoBoingo: ;;more

11:53:29 gribble: 456.813080552

12:03:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.000222 = 0.444 BTC [-]

12:12:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0326 = 0.163 BTC [+]

12:12:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.0509899 = 0.4589 BTC [-] {3}

12:13:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03359017 = 0.168 BTC [+] {3}

12:22:25 herbijudlestoids: hullo

12:22:34 herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i had an idea

12:23:51 herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: hows doin?

12:23:58 BingoBoingo: Not bad herbijudlestoids

12:24:45 herbijudlestoids: no news?

12:24:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03159862 = 0.2528 BTC [-] {3}

12:25:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00100059 = 10.4061 BTC [+]

12:26:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.055589 = 0.6115 BTC [+] {2}

12:28:38 BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: Nothing I can think of off the top of my head

12:29:21 herbijudlestoids: any BTCUSD forecasts? :P

12:32:34 herbijudlestoids: BingoBoingo: if someone wanted to offer hosting services, do you think most people are after a VPS with SSH access? or just a VPS with a panel?

12:32:55 chairman_meow: Hello

12:33:11 chairman_meow: is there another gambling site that I can invest in?

12:33:20 BingoBoingo: herbijudlestoids: It probably really depends on the customer.

12:33:22 chairman_meow: like just-dice

12:36:27 chairman_meow: !help

12:36:27 assbot: List of commands:

12:36:28 assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}

12:36:29 assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}

12:36:30 assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)

12:36:31 assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}

12:36:32 assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}

12:36:33 assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)

12:36:34 assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}

12:36:35 assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}

12:36:57 chairman_meow: !bash sudo

12:37:13 chairman_meow: !bash sudo shutdown

12:37:15 chairman_meow: heh

12:38:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.056005 = 0.28 BTC [+]

12:44:14 Apocalyptic: herbijudlestoids, you're still doing market-making in ATC/BTC ?

12:47:27 keonne: mjr for the love of irc learn to screen session

12:51:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-]

12:57:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1532 @ 0.00083772 = 1.2834 BTC [-] {10}

12:58:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 230 @ 0.000833 = 0.1916 BTC [-]

13:06:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1295 @ 0.00020544 = 0.266 BTC [-] {11}

13:22:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 26809 @ 0.00012909 = 3.4608 BTC [-] {40}

13:37:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]

13:46:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00013 = 0.13 BTC [-]

13:49:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.00014998 = 0.3 BTC [+] {5}

13:52:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1000 @ 0.00013 = 0.13 BTC [-]

13:52:59 DudeSj: ;;ident

13:52:59 gribble: Nick 'DudeSj', with hostmask 'DudeSj!~linux@2600:1004:b106:70a1:a437:14a:7848:9dec', is not identified.

13:53:09 Apocalyptic: http://cointelegraph.com/post/bitcoin_moscow_conference_postponed

13:53:11 ozbot: Bitcoin Moscow Conference Postponed

13:53:41 Apocalyptic: "the decision to postpone the event was a direct result of a ?negative response from government authorities? or more specifically, The Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation, the FSB"

13:57:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1002 @ 0.00014521 = 0.1455 BTC [+] {3}

13:58:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.03158902 = 0.4738 BTC [+]

14:05:44 bitcoinpete: howdy

14:06:29 bitcoinpete: .d

14:06:29 ozbot: 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 1697 blocks | Estimated Change: 2.9780% in 11d 10h 20m 40s

14:09:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7446 @ 0.00099945 = 7.4419 BTC [-]

14:15:05 bitcoinpete: ;;later tell wywialm thx for reading. i suspect that both prices and wages are downward rigid. the effect of this will be the necessary checking of egos. hunger will loosen up that rigidity before long. the human competitive streak will soon come out --> renaissance.

14:15:05 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:18:52 bitcoinpete: for enlightenment and enjoyment, i picked apart peter vehehes' latest "Annual Letter from the Chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation":

14:19:00 bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/analysis-annual-letter-from-bitcoin-fundation-chairman-vehehes/

14:19:07 ozbot: Analysis: Annual Letter From Bitcoin Fundation Chairman Peter Vehehes | When Bitcoin Met Pete

14:20:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0306 = 0.153 BTC [-]

14:21:30 bounce: looks like a typo in the guy's surname

14:21:36 jurov: hehehehe

14:21:52 bitcoinpete: lol

14:22:15 bitcoinpete: ;;google fraudsters vehehes

14:22:15 gribble: Recapitulatio pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2013/recapitulatio/; In re noobs and conventions pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2013/in-re-noobs-and-conventions/

14:22:46 jurov: not typo, it's explained in footnote

14:22:50 Apocalyptic: Vehehes, that's priceless

14:23:31 bitcoinpete: i was using "vehaha", then saw that mp had already played on it, so i adopted his for the sake of continuity

14:24:01 jurov: mocking shall be consistent :D

14:24:32 bitcoinpete: it's stronger that way

14:31:30 bitcoinpete: “We believe that all of the expenses the SEC was complaining of were permitted by the limited partnership agreements and Delaware law,” said Aegis Frumento, a partner at Stern Tannenbaum & Bell LLP in New York, who represents Brittenham and the firm. “We have every confidence at the end of the day that these charges will not be found to have been fraudulent under the Investors Advisers Act.”

14:31:32 bitcoinpete: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-04-07/bogus-private-equity-fees-said-found-at-200-firms-in-sec-review

14:31:34 ozbot: Bogus Private-Equity Fees Said Found at 200 Firms in SEC Review - Businessweek

14:31:50 bitcoinpete: the sec can't even nail down fiat businesses

14:31:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05502007 = 0.5502 BTC [-] {4}

14:37:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05511111 = 0.5511 BTC [+]

14:43:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 160 @ 0.05500347 = 8.8006 BTC [-] {3}

14:46:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00100163 = 27.4447 BTC [+] {2}

14:54:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.01710001 = 0.171 BTC [-]

14:54:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0509899 = 0.102 BTC [-]

14:59:26 Mats_cd03: merr

15:01:03 asciilifeform: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-07/ceo-liechtenstein-bank-frick-murdered

15:01:05 ozbot: CEO Of Liechtenstein Bank Frick Murdered In Broad Daylight | Zero Hedge

15:02:08 mike_c: he must not have agreed to the banker suicide pact.

15:03:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.055 = 0.22 BTC [-]

15:04:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05110081 = 0.511 BTC [-] {3}

15:05:57 jurov: that's why they pay themselves bonuses for hazardous working conditions

15:08:10 Apocalyptic: jurov has it

15:12:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00554114 = 0.3934 BTC [-] {6}

15:23:58 Mats_cd03: all of the consumer versions of quadcopters suck balls

15:24:27 Mats_cd03: if you build a decent consumer quadcopter with challenge and response i will be your first customer

15:24:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.05677298 = 0.2271 BTC [+]

15:26:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05677308 = 0.2839 BTC [+] {2}

15:31:43 bitcoinpete: mpoe takes it down

15:31:44 bitcoinpete: http://bitbet.us/bet/784/s-mpoe-to-rise-above-0-001-before-july/

15:31:45 ozbot: BitBet - S.MPOE to rise above 0.001 before July

15:31:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.05110006 = 0.7665 BTC [-] {4}

15:32:07 mike_c: !last s.mpoe

15:32:07 assbot: I thought I told you not to touch me.

15:32:53 mike_c: unbelievable. i would write a blog post on this if i understood it at all.

15:32:57 jurov: !last m s.mpoe

15:32:57 assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00100163 BTC [+]

15:33:22 mike_c: step 1) turn off 70% of revenue. step 2) stock goes up 20%.

15:33:41 Apocalyptic: heh

15:33:42 mike_c: step 3) ?? step 4) profit!

15:34:04 jurov: you weren't there when S.DICE traded. there were massive buys *just after* dividends were paid

15:34:11 jurov: every month

15:34:14 KRS-1: step 5) beat off to some .bait step 6) take a shit

15:35:55 mike_c: yeah, luckily i showed up after the dice bubble and before the acquisition :)

15:36:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1205 @ 0.00100511 = 1.2112 BTC [+] {2}

15:36:09 bitcoinpete: mike_c i think the sec press brought in new money

15:37:03 bitcoinpete: existing investors gained confidence, new ones stepped up to the plate and learned how to mpex

15:37:07 mike_c: well if you understand it you should write a post. it's quite something.

15:37:44 jurov: step 7) nap time

15:37:50 bitcoinpete: it really is something

15:40:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.01339998 = 0.1474 BTC [+] {2}

15:41:13 lippoper: !bait

15:41:45 lippoper: .bait

15:41:47 ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/5928e708574aeee1575bbcbd898bfae4/tumblr_muj4sahrnF1swv68oo1_1280.jpg

15:41:53 nubbins`: $330nzd per week for a 1br?!

15:42:07 nubbins`: ;;calc (283.37*52)/12

15:42:07 gribble: 1227.93666667

15:42:11 nubbins`: wow

15:43:21 bitcoinpete: how much is a 1br in the maritimes?

15:45:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00100275 = 7.0193 BTC [-]

15:46:46 nubbins`: while technically not the maritimes, a 1br apt in downtown st. john's, newfoundland will run you 700-900

15:47:05 nubbins`: 2-3br for $1000-1200 for something nice

15:47:23 nubbins`: 5 years ago you could find the same 1br for $600

15:47:35 Namworld: not much difference for 1-2 bedroom extra

15:48:35 bitcoinpete: reasonable enough

15:49:20 nubbins`: Namworld there are very few 1br apartments so the prices on 'em are a bit high

15:50:16 nubbins`: i mean, you can still get a 1br slum for $500

15:50:44 nubbins`: but for something that an adult with dignity and respect would live in...

15:51:37 bounce: probably should do a writeup of that "research" so you have something proper to link to.

15:52:46 bitcoinpete: bounce that'd be awesome

15:53:24 bitcoinpete: let me know when it's done and i'll edit accordingly

15:54:26 Namworld: I don't think "Canada Slums" and "Slums" are the same thing. By international standard, probably luxurious

15:54:37 Namworld: eh

15:55:10 Namworld: Two issues you don't want is water leaks or vermin infested building.

15:55:51 Namworld: Otherwise, even if the place ain't nice, just cleaning it through and keeping it so and no problems.

15:55:59 bitcoinpete: canada has plenty of places with mice, bedbugs, mold, and maybe worst of all inadequate heat

15:56:10 Namworld: yeah

15:56:25 bounce: will do.

15:56:25 bitcoinpete: i've seen some that charge 900+/mo too

15:56:54 bitcoinpete: it's criminal. and frequently prosecuted as such

15:57:06 Namworld: And if you rent that, you haven't looked around enough.

15:57:21 Namworld: Cause you can get much better for cheaper.

15:57:35 bounce: so we see that slums aren't necessarily cheap. why then do people still dwell there?

15:57:49 Namworld: idk

15:57:59 bitcoinpete: namworld 100%. my guess is that people tolerate it because it places them close to their community, including family and social services

15:58:09 Namworld: I can find good appartments for cheaper anytime.

15:58:12 bounce: just saying "haven't looked around enough" is too easy. one common reason is because the slum-dwellers don't have access to anything better.

15:58:28 bitcoinpete: and they don't need a damage deposit at these places

15:58:47 Namworld: Why not? Poor credit/no money for deposit, yeah, I guess.

15:59:06 bounce: not being part of the, well, bezzle economy is the word here

15:59:16 bitcoinpete: and they don't need to sign a 1yr lease

15:59:22 Namworld: But you pay too much for less...

15:59:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.22203904 BTC to 5`408 shares, 41088 satoshi per share

15:59:25 bitcoinpete: bounce exactly

15:59:40 bitcoinpete: alt economy

16:00:49 bounce: hernando de soto wrote about it, _the mystery of capital_, just why some people have no access to the official economy and so dwell in the alternative shadow economy

16:00:59 bitcoinpete: the bezzle economy deploys its regulators under the guide of "public health" to clean this stuff up but it really can't go away

16:01:31 bitcoinpete: if anything, it's growing

16:01:43 bounce: there are ways to fix it but since they're a symptom of a(n often deliberately) broken official economy, that needs fixing first

16:03:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7678 @ 0.00100494 = 7.7159 BTC [+]

16:03:42 bounce: take a piece of land, try and put a building on it. some places the paperwork can easily take 200+ forms and 10+ years. so people just start to build and rent out the building without bothering with the paperwork. it's a risk, but, you know.

16:03:43 bitcoinpete: just like the medical system treats symptoms like cancer instead of the root causes, like shitty food

16:05:13 bitcoinpete: keeps the barriers to entry high and the entrenched players comfy and content

16:06:50 jurov: i don't think checking the building isn't gonna fall someday is easy

16:07:13 jurov: it's easy to bash... pointing out which regulations are nonsense is harder

16:07:48 bitcoinpete: hard to check without hammurabi's code

16:08:21 asciilifeform: lol

16:09:03 asciilifeform: i once read that 'hammurabi's building code' is still king, in the... submarine industry

16:09:23 asciilifeform: everybody, architect, welders, riveters - get to take a free trip to max depth

16:09:45 Namworld: Where the fuck does it take 200 forms and 10 years to start building? The Land of Bureaucratia?

16:10:00 bitcoinpete: they should be permanent crew lol

16:10:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05110001 = 0.511 BTC [-] {2}

16:11:00 bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: give them a little bunk next to the captain's

16:11:03 asciilifeform: the permanent crew are pros - afaik, in all modern countries

16:12:12 bounce: many, many places. generally the places with large informal economies

16:12:20 bitcoinpete: Namworld: california maybe? i hear their paperwork is nuts

16:13:26 ThickAsThieves: "Better yet: if the Bitcoin community managed to change the protocol to increase the rate that miners can “unlock” new coins… Bitcoin might have a built-in incentive to both adopt the currency and report taxable earnings. Let’s say that we accepted an inflationary Bitcoin, much like we have an inflationary dollar, around 2 or 3% annualized. At the end of the year, a consistently

16:13:27 ThickAsThieves: inflating bitcoin would trigger no capital gains liability, only capital losses, reducing the tax liability of the filer."

16:13:41 ThickAsThieves: bircoin ragazine never fails to fail

16:14:18 bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: architects of land buildings take tours of their work too. weaknesses from buried risks aren't really tested upfront

16:14:27 thestringpuller: wow bitcoin magazine is really scraping the bottom of the barrel these days

16:14:41 thestringpuller: is it still like 100 dollars for a 1 year subscription?

16:14:48 thestringpuller: ;;google bitcoin magazine subscription

16:14:49 gribble: Bitcoin Magazine Subscription – Bitcoin Magazine: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/product/3368/subscription12months/; TIME TO RENEW YOUR SUBSCRIPTION! – Bitcoin Magazine: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6120/time-to-renew-your-subscription-2/; Bitcoin Magazine Issue #7 (February 2013): 9781622096701 ...: http://www.amazon.com/Bitcoin-Magazine-Issue-February-2013/dp/1622096703

16:14:51 bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: that's atrocious

16:15:13 bitcoinpete: it's also why there's doge

16:15:23 thestringpuller: Bitcoin Magazine Subscription

16:15:25 thestringpuller: $99.95

16:15:29 thestringpuller: really?

16:15:36 ThickAsThieves: it's collectible!

16:15:37 asciilifeform: that thing still exists ?!

16:15:42 thestringpuller: if fraudsters were in print it wouldn't even be that expensive

16:16:17 pLambert: business idea! collect the trilemma posts for each month and print them

16:16:32 ThickAsThieves: $10 worth of bitcoin has got me through a year of fraudsters

16:16:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0511 = 0.511 BTC [-] {2}

16:16:53 Namworld: Do you want to pay taxes on gains, or deduct losses... of actual losses... One gains you more, even after taxes, the other deprives you of money...

16:17:08 Namworld: What the fuck, Bitcoin Magazine?

16:17:09 ThickAsThieves: i kinda think he undercharges

16:17:28 thestringpuller: i have like 20k fraudsters credits...

16:17:44 thestringpuller: i use like maybe 1k a year...

16:18:04 bitcoinpete: i kinda like not having purchased any credits

16:18:38 bitcoinpete: prevents me from spending my days doing as the 18th century jooz, as mp once put it

16:25:23 Mats_cd03: whoever runs blockr... whats a 'huge' amount of requests? >20k?

16:27:46 bitcoinpete: "George Kikvadze, board member and advisor of BitFury, said Monday that if the notion of a finite number of bitcoins was ever altered it would be fair and should not undermine the value."

16:27:51 bitcoinpete: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101560477

16:27:52 ozbot: 'Regulation is good,' says bitcoin mining giant

16:28:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16484 @ 0.00100032 = 16.4893 BTC [-] {3}

16:29:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22405 @ 0.00099839 = 22.3689 BTC [-]

16:30:49 kakobrekla: dafuq fury.

16:31:03 thestringpuller: what the fuck?!?!?

16:31:14 thestringpuller: where the fuck is all this talk of making bitcoin inflationary coming from?

16:31:20 thestringpuller: holy shit i'm irate right now

16:31:37 kakobrekla: Mats_cd03 i forgot, but you get a temp ban (lasting minutes) if you go over it

16:32:08 bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: gotta be puppets with guns to their heads

16:32:41 bitcoinpete: it's probably to be taken as seriously as the greenlist talk

16:32:44 bitcoinpete: it's just talk

16:33:44 ThickAsThieves: they can try, and the people who dont like it can stay on the other prong of the fork

16:33:49 bitcoinpete: that bitfury is looking to ipo in london is hilarious tho. they should try mpex first

16:34:06 kakobrekla: is that in the article

16:34:10 kakobrekla: havent opened it

16:34:32 bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: it's in the video in the article, ya

16:34:56 bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: ya, then we'll see if inflationary btc' is worth more or less than satoshi's btc

16:34:59 kakobrekla: i dunno, i know fury a bit, we talked a lot before he became famous, i wouldnt think he would be up for that.

16:35:39 bitcoinpete: people change, incentives change

16:35:55 kakobrekla: or just a stoned board member

16:36:22 bitcoinpete: chemicals change...

16:36:31 kakobrekla: :)

16:37:25 Namworld: Hey, Bitcoin Magazine is a premium magazine for the amateur of lulz, of course it commands a premium price. It's hard work coming up with this amount of lulz.

16:37:38 benkay: tchaw bitcoinpete the chems are the same as they've always been

16:37:50 ThickAsThieves: it's hard to battle idiocy on tv, it corrupts through the nature of its questioning alone

16:37:53 bitcoinpete: Namworld: mad magazine is hard work too

16:38:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60299899 BTC [-]

16:38:17 Mats_cd03: watch The Newsroom

16:38:30 bitcoinpete: benkay: it's how and when they're used that changes :)

16:38:50 Namworld: I have no idea what kind of price and content MAD has got going, honestly.

16:39:37 bitcoinpete: it's probably still 6 bucks a copy and full of gold, just like when i was a yoof

16:40:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4223 @ 0.00099819 = 4.2154 BTC [-]

16:42:50 bitcoinpete: I'm going to this next weekend. I wonder which speaker will be the lulziest

16:42:51 bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinexpo.ca/speakers2/

16:42:54 ozbot: SPEAKERS | Bitcoin Expo 2014 in Toronto - April 11 - 13Bitcoin Expo 2014 in Toronto – April 11 –

16:43:39 bitcoinpete: i'll see if anyone else there can as readily point out the scammers as -assets

16:44:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.03003333 = 0.7208 BTC [-] {4}

16:47:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.05248452 = 0.6823 BTC [+] {2}

16:47:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00099797 = 8.1834 BTC [-] {2}

16:49:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]

16:52:23 bitcoinpete: the sun beckons, cheers

16:58:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1277 @ 0.00011595 = 0.1481 BTC [-] {9}

17:02:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-]

17:03:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1661 @ 0.00099839 = 1.6583 BTC [+]

17:03:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.05669786 = 0.1134 BTC [-]

17:11:10 thestringpuller: benkay still around?

17:13:29 domsch: Johann is speaking there - didn’t know that, awesome.

17:13:49 mike_c: holy part spam batman. kakobrekla: mjr1 & mjr2 have been join/quitting constantly for hours..

17:14:51 jurov: gotta hack he b-a.com again and put my addy there

17:15:06 benkay: hey thestringpuller

17:15:16 jurov: that will be a hefty donation

17:15:19 thestringpuller: benkay: pm

17:15:44 mike_c: sorry jurov, now they are running the secure version of wordpress :D

17:15:57 jurov: is there one?

17:16:03 Apocalyptic: that's the joke

17:16:03 kakobrekla: i dont see anything

17:16:15 kakobrekla: prolly cause i have joins and parts disabled

17:16:35 kakobrekla: which i recommend.

17:16:35 jurov: ur cheating!

17:17:26 mike_c: who's on the board of b-a? we need to out-vote the chairman.

17:17:30 kakobrekla: well, you have to be first, best or cheat, you pick.

17:18:00 mike_c: mutiny!

17:18:56 kakobrekla: but try it, life is so much better without that spam

17:19:20 mike_c: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-W9AJJ__uOe4/UJlkWBj67LI/AAAAAAAAFAo/mhR743zFylY/s1600/shenanigans.jpg

17:20:02 kakobrekla: not in the face!

17:20:07 Mats_cd03: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/8L6706Y7

17:20:07 gribble: The operation succeeded.

17:20:21 Mats_cd03: ^bitbet audit

17:20:38 benkay: https://www.counterwallet.co/

17:21:19 Mats_cd03: are you an ass man, benkay

17:21:27 benkay: counterparty is pumping money into css too

17:21:31 benkay: https://www.counterparty.co/

17:21:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60299999 BTC [+]

17:21:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00579758 = 0.2957 BTC [+] {3}

17:22:03 kakobrekla: o, audit. well thats a start. can you include liabilities as well?

17:22:11 Mats_cd03: woops

17:22:29 Mats_cd03: i thought about it and forgot to do it

17:22:37 kakobrekla: :)

17:22:46 mike_c: and maybe filter out the 0's?

17:23:46 mike_c: impressive though, bitbet holding 3000 btc in bets.

17:24:50 kakobrekla: a decent size of it is a buffer

17:26:48 kakobrekla: anyway, Mats_cd03 , just sum all the confirmed bets on the open bets and take out 1% and thats that

17:47:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00014501 = 0.29 BTC [-] {5}

17:49:34 ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/04/07/documents-show-gogo-boasted-of-helping-law-enforcement-agencies-spy-on-in-flight-wifi/

17:49:35 ozbot: Documents show Gogo boasted of helping law enforcement agencies spy on in-flight wifi | PandoDaily

18:01:47 punkman: +

18:07:59 jurov: http://www.antichipotle.com/git/ lol markovchain generated manual

18:08:00 ozbot: GIT-WORK

18:08:18 jurov: send your worst enemy when they need it

18:19:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.01200002 = 0.132 BTC [+]

18:31:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00579794 = 0.2725 BTC [+]

18:31:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0075 = 0.1875 BTC [+]

18:33:09 Namworld: Why would you be safe at all in the sky to start with? It's not like you don't connect to the same Internet. In fact, there's extra steps where to install snooping devices.

18:35:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75550 @ 0.00099938 = 75.5032 BTC [+] {3}

18:44:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00099896 = 16.9823 BTC [-]

18:56:30 Mats_cd03: ive come to realize i suck at writing code

18:56:32 ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Does SMG have all its audio/music/fx under control already?

18:56:33 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:56:38 Mats_cd03: it hurts my ego

19:00:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.04910221 = 0.2946 BTC [-]

19:02:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39100 @ 0.00100535 = 39.3092 BTC [+] {2}

19:04:51 thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: you moving into the audio game?

19:14:24 nubbins`: 16:16:17pLambert:business idea! collect the trilemma posts for each month and print them <<< that's actually not a business idea

19:14:36 thestringpuller: ;;later chetty should we put a gribble bot in #eulora?

19:14:37 gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "chetty" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.

19:14:43 thestringpuller: ;;later tell chetty should we put a gribble bot in #eulora?

19:14:43 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:14:55 thestringpuller: nubbins`: would be a good magazine idea

19:15:01 thestringpuller: fraudsters: The Magazine

19:19:25 nubbins`: thestringpuller: why would anyone buy it?

19:19:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 497 @ 0.000832 = 0.4135 BTC [-] {3}

19:20:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.056547 = 0.1131 BTC [-]

19:20:43 nubbins`: if bitcoin magazine has to charge $99 for a year subscription because their readership is so small, imagine what a year of fraudsters would cost

19:22:16 thestringpuller: lol didn't say it would be a profitable idea

19:22:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.056547 = 0.5655 BTC [-]

19:22:58 nubbins`: idea: throw hundred-dollar bills out of a moving vehicle

19:22:58 nubbins`: :D

19:23:14 thestringpuller: BRILLIANT

19:24:06 thestringpuller: make it rain up in here

19:24:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05249997 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}

19:25:33 ThickAsThieves: <thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves: you moving into the audio game? /// I've been in and out of it for a long time. Flirting with getting back in.

19:35:15 Mats_cd03: kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/dLaHuZnC 1771.37574931 in liabilities

19:35:43 Mats_cd03: oops, i didnt take 1% from that number

19:36:12 Mats_cd03: 1753.6619918169

19:36:22 kakobrekla: cool, so its a double reverse fractional reserve

19:36:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00014999 = 0.15 BTC [+]

19:36:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05249998 = 0.105 BTC [+]

19:37:32 kakobrekla: perhaps join all this with the methodology used in some blogpost and make it useful for people?

19:37:42 Mats_cd03: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/dLaHuZnC 1753.6619918169 btc in liabilities after house takes a cut

19:37:42 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:37:59 Mats_cd03: i thought about it but thats a lot of work

19:38:12 Mats_cd03: compared to the time i spent writing the code

19:38:52 kakobrekla: eh? a few sentences should do

19:39:03 Mats_cd03: i used an html parsing library in python to scrape bitbet then pinged blockr with the balance requests

19:39:17 mike_c: ooh, you know bitbet serves up json?

19:39:24 Mats_cd03: yeah

19:40:01 mike_c: parsing is more fun? ;)

19:40:07 kakobrekla: the point is, the result is now scattered over a days worth of log. the thing is worthy of being published in a coherent matter.

19:40:42 Mats_cd03: i couldnt find any python code to parse the jsend format and cant be arsed to do it myself

19:41:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05654718 = 0.2827 BTC [+]

19:41:03 Mats_cd03: so i just spammed the api and went to take a poop while it ran

19:42:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.05654718 = 0.7917 BTC [+] {2}

19:42:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.030105 = 0.4516 BTC [-]

19:42:23 mike_c: ah. well, for future reference: import json; json.loads(data) will give you a python dict with all the info.

19:42:30 Mats_cd03: kakobrekla: ill work up a report in the next day

19:43:11 kakobrekla: cool, if you dont run a blog or dont have a place to publish it, perhaps some other asseteer blogger would publish you, dunno, just sayin

19:43:17 Mats_cd03: mike_c: lol...whoops. i dont do any web dev

19:43:21 thestringpuller: interesting that bitbet is so transparent it can be independently audited

19:44:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2250 @ 0.000125 = 0.2813 BTC [-]

19:44:41 Mats_cd03: (i didnt know jsend is json and a cursory goog search of jsend wasnt helpful)

19:45:54 mike_c: so extra bonus for doing the research, you learned some more python.

19:45:59 mike_c: always nice.

19:46:44 mike_c: net net: bitbet has 3000 in assets and 1700 in liabilities?

19:47:07 kakobrekla: something like that

19:53:37 kakobrekla: >Litecoin Creator (Charlie Lee) Recommends Merged Mining with Dogecoin

19:53:40 kakobrekla: go litecoin!

19:55:05 punkman: chuck be trippin

19:58:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 48 @ 0.01191457 = 0.5719 BTC [-] {7}

19:59:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.01174424 = 0.3054 BTC [-] {2}

20:01:50 blackwhite: hola peeps

20:03:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03159231 = 0.3159 BTC [+] {2}

20:04:20 twizt: sup

20:06:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30398 @ 0.00100089 = 30.4251 BTC [-]

20:06:50 nubbins`: !t m mpoe

20:06:50 assbot: I thought I told you not to touch me.

20:06:56 nubbins`: !t m s.mpoe

20:06:56 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00098385 / 0.00099837 / 0.0010056 (675729 shares, 674.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00093355 / 0.00095927 / 0.0010056 (5780800 shares, 5,545.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00079084 / 0.00089519 / 0.0010056 (27916312 shares, 24,990.63 BTC)

20:07:03 nubbins`: i only listen to restraining orders

20:12:17 Mats_cd03: kakobrekla: whoever posts it first on their blog can has it, i figure mp will write a fraudsters post eventually

20:12:46 Mats_cd03: As of 7APR2014 16:37:00GMT, BitBet has a total balance of 2889.82820674 BTC with outstanding liabilities of 1753.6619918169 BTC. In total, 8874 addresses have deposited funds (http://pastebin.com/8L6706Y7), and there are currently 93 open bets with deposits totaling 1771.37574931 BTC (http://pastebin.com/dLaHuZnC). After operating for little more than a

20:12:46 Mats_cd03: year, BitBet has accumulated 1136.1662149231001 BTC in revenue. I used Beautiful Soup (a Python library designed for screen scraping) to pull table data (BTC addresses, quantity deposited) and looked up address balances with blockr.io’s API. If you wish to reproduce these results with Python, I would recommend using the Requests library, which is superior

20:12:46 Mats_cd03: to urllib2. Readers are encouraged to verify this data.

20:18:41 bitcoinpete_: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/results-of-first-bitbet-audit-april-7-2014/

20:18:54 ozbot: Results Of First BitBet Audit, April 7 2014 | When Bitcoin Met Pete

20:25:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.05389 = 0.4311 BTC [-] {2}

20:25:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03159982 = 0.3792 BTC [+] {2}

20:27:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1760 @ 0.000125 = 0.22 BTC [-]

20:27:58 kakobrekla: there we go

20:28:26 punkman: "I want a gambling slot app that looks fancy and runs smoothly. It will accept bitcoins. The app will also have a back end that controls the odds in realtime. The reason for this app is that my wife is addicted to gambiling & I would like To keep the bitcoins."

20:29:36 Mats_cd03: brilliant

20:31:38 kakobrekla: ;;rate Mats_cd03 1 did the first public bitbet.us audit

20:31:39 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

20:31:57 kakobrekla: mkay

20:32:11 Mats_cd03: ill get to it

20:34:12 Namworld: "Here honey, gamble as much as you want. If you need more money, just ask."

20:35:11 Namworld: Wife gambles elsewhere/actually wins big for once and tries to withdraw.

20:35:25 Mats_cd03: if she gets lucky youll have esplainin to do

20:35:28 Namworld: That's what's gonna happen to that guy, punkman.

20:35:55 punkman: you control the odds, remember

20:36:16 Namworld: Oh. Well eh

20:36:31 Namworld: Still, gamble elsewhere.

20:36:39 punkman: could probably get her to quit gambling

20:36:56 Namworld: What about she just gambles elsewhere?

20:37:04 Namworld: Seeing the odds are no good there?

20:37:20 punkman: yeah she will likely conclude it's rigged/crap and try elsewhere

20:37:32 Namworld: She can just move funds elsewhere. And if not, it's just another play chips game app.

20:37:41 punkman: people are suspicious of virtual dice

20:37:56 Namworld: That's not how you quit. Guy will just get in trouble for it, playing in his wife's back like that.

20:38:48 punkman: I'm wondering if the woman is gambling with btc in the first place

20:39:00 punkman: or if the dude thinks that's a good idea to introduce to her

20:39:53 Namworld: If he controls odds and she's never losing everything... gonna look weird. "I never win big yet I never lose my balance. Been going for 2 trillion bets. What are the odds?"

20:40:45 Namworld: Guy: I'll just pretend my wife has issues, maybe someone develops me a gambling app for cheaper that way? So much profits for me!

20:42:03 Namworld: Guy: Maybe if I get my wife hooked up on MY app, I won't have to quit her for losing all our money. I can also get her hooked on me giving her back the gambling money to fuel the habit! What could go wrong?

20:43:07 Namworld: I can't see any way whatever he wants to achieve wouldn't be somewhat retarded to completly retarded.

20:46:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03019103 = 0.5434 BTC [-] {3}

20:59:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-] {2}

21:01:22 thestringpuller: ;;seen Bugpowder

21:01:22 gribble: Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <Bugpowder> Whee... http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

21:01:36 thestringpuller: whatever happened to Bugpowder, must be retired.

21:02:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03010039 = 0.6622 BTC [-] {6}

21:05:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.03010005 = 0.3913 BTC [-] {6}

21:06:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0301001 = 0.2408 BTC [+] {2}

21:07:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05249885 = 0.105 BTC [+]

21:09:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05249999 = 0.2625 BTC [+] {4}

21:13:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.08299776 = 1.66 BTC [-]

21:18:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.000125 = 0.25 BTC [-]

21:18:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05299999 = 0.106 BTC [+]

21:19:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.053 = 0.106 BTC [+]

21:20:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03010001 = 0.1505 BTC [-]

21:22:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-]

21:24:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.053 = 0.106 BTC [+] {2}

21:24:57 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller he drops by now and again, like quarterly.

21:25:14 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not really on the audio. some voice work done.

21:26:32 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 pretty cool!

21:26:50 mircea_popescu: used to be like 1600 / 400ish, but then the 1k bet happened and some large 200+ iirc.

21:27:02 mircea_popescu: shows the importance of padding i guess.

21:28:07 mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu

21:28:08 gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452

21:28:33 mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:38deabf30abd437d1ce2053fb0ce12af190d1911263496a2a4ce72cf

21:28:35 gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452

21:28:36 mircea_popescu: ;;rated Mats_cd03

21:28:37 gribble: You have not yet rated user Mats_cd03

21:28:49 kakobrekla: its a trap.

21:28:50 mircea_popescu: ;;rate Mats_cd03 1 Bitcoin financial auditor.

21:28:50 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

21:28:56 mircea_popescu: derp.

21:28:58 mircea_popescu: get in the wot noob.

21:29:06 ThickAsThieves: i'd be interested in taking a swing at some music or spell effects or such if you have any small project for me to esperiment with

21:29:10 Mats_cd03: im waiting til i get a cardano

21:31:09 kakobrekla: uh you gonna do your wot on cardano?

21:31:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05349999 = 0.1605 BTC [+] {2}

21:33:05 Mats_cd03: im generating the key with it

21:33:36 mircea_popescu: so i guess 1771 is the new 1337

21:33:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.08299776 = 0.83 BTC [-]

21:34:26 mircea_popescu: in other news, i gotta chill it with these extraditions, my poor liver can't cope.

21:35:53 mircea_popescu: lol vessenes is STILL "chairman of teh board" ?

21:36:00 twizt: mp is that u posting as sproket

21:36:01 twizt: lol

21:36:01 mircea_popescu: what's the guy take himself for, franksinatra ?

21:36:06 mircea_popescu: mnope.

21:36:12 twizt: sporket*

21:36:26 mircea_popescu: i srsly never posted on the forum.

21:36:44 mircea_popescu: i used to pay exactly one person to do it, she had a signed statement, that's the whole of it.

21:36:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 37 @ 0.08299776 = 3.0709 BTC [-] {2}

21:36:58 twizt: well u got someone pretending to be you atleast

21:37:00 kakobrekla: the only way i know of to backup that key Mats_cd03 is to plug the cable on the transporter in the middle of the energizing sequence so while the object is already completely scanned it is not yet disintegrated, the rest of the procedure is prolly clear.

21:37:43 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla key's stored in an eeprom. it's not THAT easy to lose.

21:37:54 Mats_cd03: ;;later tell cads any progress?

21:37:54 kakobrekla: TRY ME

21:37:54 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:38:12 mircea_popescu: well yeah, generally speaking, backup;s are better than no backups, no argument ther.e

21:44:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7678 @ 0.00100168 = 7.6909 BTC [+] {2}

21:45:19 everclear: twizt: no one's pretending to be MP, only being accused

21:46:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 44 @ 0.00243332 = 0.1071 BTC [-] {2}

21:46:14 ThickAsThieves: today my post about the questionable "Narcotic Checkpoints" was censored into oblivion

21:46:18 mircea_popescu: afaik teh sa goons be trolling the shit out of that thread.

21:46:22 ThickAsThieves: about 220 comments before it died

21:46:31 ThickAsThieves: shortly later the police issues a pr:

21:46:33 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves lrn2use your own platforms.

21:46:39 ThickAsThieves: "A total of 29 arrests were made on various charges of possession of illegal drugs, driving while license suspended, and outstanding warrants. Drugs seized: Marijuana 23.8 grams, Crack cocaine: 8.1 grams, Cocaine: 2 grams, Prescription pills 46."

21:47:04 mircea_popescu: anyway, fuck them. if they had confiscated the empire fucking state building made out of crystal rock pixie dust,

21:47:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 77 @ 0.00240015 = 0.1848 BTC [-] {3}

21:47:09 mircea_popescu: it'd have not excused it.

21:47:32 ThickAsThieves: well all they got was people with their weekend stashes it seems

21:47:39 mircea_popescu: completely broken line of argumentation. you're telling your daughter to stop sucking cock on the curb, she's telling you she made this much money today.

21:47:44 mircea_popescu: if that were the fucking point...

21:47:50 ThickAsThieves: i agree

21:48:08 ThickAsThieves: i know someone at the paper who's kinda a firecracker, gonna see if she'll do an article

21:48:29 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if you had a blog with a larger circulation than any newspaper buffett owns, you could have done that article.

21:48:44 mircea_popescu: and you could have had that blog, had you started working on it, diligently, half a decade ago.

21:49:10 mircea_popescu: da fuck happened to s.mpoe

21:49:58 ThickAsThieves: lol, ironically about 10 years ago I was speaking with the head of the local Chamber of Commerce and she asked me what I thought of blogs (as PR really). I told her I thought they were silly.

21:50:16 ThickAsThieves: i always remembe rthat conversation for some reason

21:51:01 mircea_popescu: so ten years ago you said something silly :D

21:51:23 mircea_popescu: remember bill clinton ?

21:51:31 mircea_popescu: his career ended because drudge's blog.

21:51:41 mircea_popescu: that was just about a decade ago.

21:52:59 ThickAsThieves: it came from being a hater of all things twittery

21:53:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+]

21:53:14 ThickAsThieves: and eve3ry business wanting to pay me to do them for promo

21:53:20 ThickAsThieves: but yeah it was silly

21:53:33 ThickAsThieves: but her writing a blog would have been even more silly

21:54:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05845389 = 0.3507 BTC [-] {2}

21:57:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0584539 = 0.643 BTC [+]

21:58:04 mircea_popescu: well no dissputeing that.

21:58:21 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, what's the difference between dis bute and diss pute.

21:59:03 ThickAsThieves: one has b upside down?

21:59:12 ThickAsThieves: backwards*

21:59:19 ThickAsThieves: derp

21:59:22 ThickAsThieves: i didnt say anything

21:59:30 *: ThickAsThieves crabwalks away

22:00:12 mircea_popescu: lol

22:01:10 ThickAsThieves: http://gigaom.com/2014/04/07/new-bitcoin-debit-card-claims-to-work-with-90-percent-of-us-atms/

22:01:10 ozbot: New bitcoin debit card claims to work with 90 percent of US ATMs — Tech News and Analysis

22:01:22 ThickAsThieves: missed opportunity to call it scAMEX

22:02:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.085002 = 0.425 BTC [+] {2}

22:03:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.085 = 0.34 BTC [-]

22:04:48 mircea_popescu: awwwh!

22:04:53 mircea_popescu: that's the meanest thing of the month

22:05:07 ThickAsThieves: it's only the 7th!

22:08:18 ThickAsThieves: phone call sceduled with reported, woop!

22:08:26 ThickAsThieves: reporter*

22:10:58 mircea_popescu: if there's anyone here sober :

22:11:03 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/free-sitcom-idea-with-butts/

22:11:04 ozbot: Free sitcom idea, with butts. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:11:11 mircea_popescu: pls read that let me know what you think.

22:11:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5228 @ 0.00099915 = 5.2236 BTC [-]

22:12:01 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell herbijudlestoids what idea is that ?

22:12:01 gribble: The operation succeeded.

22:13:35 mircea_popescu: vesse

22:14:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o wow, they're actually stepped up the discussion to include the word murder ?

22:14:48 mike_c: an article with butts in the title and no pictures of butts..

22:14:49 mircea_popescu: that's a bold step.

22:15:05 mircea_popescu: mike_c no because it's an idea see

22:15:36 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 what's "challenge and response" mean ?

22:16:12 mircea_popescu: jurov: you weren't there when S.DICE traded. there were massive buys *just after* dividends were paid <<< this is very true, and still one of those unresolved mysteries.

22:16:37 mircea_popescu: it almost looked like people went "oh, it paid another div, its value reduced by x but it's risk discount by n*x so BUY IT!"

22:17:14 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "heard of hearing" << is that supposed to be hard of hearing?

22:17:30 mircea_popescu: hahaha

22:17:37 mircea_popescu: well i'm leaving it, cutest teapo ever.

22:17:49 thestringpuller: lolol

22:19:24 mircea_popescu: bounce like half the people live their entire lives within 50 miles of their pob or some shit ?

22:21:28 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: just like the medical system treats symptoms like cancer instead of the root causes, like shitty food << yey verily. compare cancer epidemiologic data in the soviet union in 1963 with same in the us in 2013. be amazed. be very amazed.

22:21:45 mircea_popescu: and they were using DTT and azbocement wtf you call it and so on.

22:23:36 mircea_popescu: "At the end of the year, a consistently inflating bitcoin would trigger no capital gains liability, only capital losses, reducing the tax liability of the filer."

22:23:45 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves who is this powerfully retarded ranger ?

22:24:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're actually stepped up the discussion to include the word murder << it was time to switch cover stories, the old one was getting tired

22:24:44 mircea_popescu: because only on the tardstalk forum can one accidentally selfcrit himself on the jagged shards of irony for more 9000s of damage.

22:24:57 asciilifeform: and now there's a convenient 'desperado' who 'we know did it'

22:25:04 mircea_popescu: right right.

22:25:11 mircea_popescu: well... maybe it was the global warming.

22:25:16 mircea_popescu: no wait.

22:25:22 mircea_popescu: maybe it was the CLIMATE SCIENCE DENIERS

22:25:25 asciilifeform: i'll call it 'local warming.'

22:25:25 mircea_popescu: they dunnit.

22:25:38 mircea_popescu: lol

22:25:59 mircea_popescu: "a cilindrical section of his skull about quarter inch wide suddenly got very hot and all entropic"

22:26:20 mircea_popescu: it's all because of the "carbon"

22:27:22 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: dafuq fury. << srsly. tell him that if regulation is good he needs to find another market.

22:27:41 mircea_popescu: anyway, it's quite clear they're stepping up the game.

22:27:54 mircea_popescu: ?No pasar?n!

22:29:12 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/453298405159477248

22:29:12 ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Dear USG sleeper agents : ...

22:29:16 mircea_popescu: adding here for teh record too.

22:31:09 mircea_popescu: mike_c: sorry jurov, now they are running the secure version of wordpress :D << try haxxing fraudsters, smartypants.

22:31:17 mircea_popescu: it's running wp like... uhm. 2.something.

22:31:29 mircea_popescu: whatever was the package before obama.

22:31:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19794 @ 0.00099915 = 19.7772 BTC [-]

22:32:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03009999 = 0.1505 BTC [-]

22:34:19 mike_c: well, fraudsters moved the login page. that's better than bitcoin-assets :)

22:35:56 mircea_popescu: nubbins` wait, you actually imagine btc ragazine has more readers than fraudsters ?!

22:36:08 mircea_popescu: i mean being one degree of magnitude off is one thing, but you're probably three.

22:36:19 mircea_popescu: mike_c no it didn't.

22:36:55 nubbins`: come to think of it, i've never read bitcoin magazine...

22:37:23 mircea_popescu: sorry to break it to you this way, but no, it's not this cool obscure band :D

22:37:35 mike_c: this looks promising: https://fraudsters.com:2083/

22:38:18 mircea_popescu: errything looks promising at some point.

22:38:30 mircea_popescu: course afail :2083 ain't wordpress.

22:38:55 mike_c: true. plus my time limit for fun is up.

22:39:45 jborkl: Butterfly labs had a class action filed against them today

22:39:56 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2012/the-storm-that-was-fel/#comment-90300

22:39:57 ozbot: The Storm That Was Fel pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:40:08 mircea_popescu: from the cemetery of fraudsters, an example of one that has tried before.

22:41:05 mircea_popescu: jborkl was it the minesota guys ?

22:41:15 jborkl: http://www.woodlaw.com/sites/default/files/casedocs/2014-04-04%20Complaint.pdf

22:41:44 mircea_popescu: yeah,

22:42:07 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/447869151756161025

22:42:09 ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: http://t.co/kPlNNBteuy #BFL ...

22:42:28 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2014#577267

22:42:31 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

22:43:06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wouldn't hurt to implement 'port knocking'

22:43:36 kakobrekla: yeah mike_c funny story about that.

22:45:05 mike_c: leprechauns?

22:45:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't actually sysadmin that server, and w/e, whoever finds a cpanel hole can deface fraudsters for a day.

22:45:34 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: interesting that bitbet is so transparent it can be independently audited << yeah, but wikipedia has an article about "dac"

22:45:37 mircea_popescu: so guess who wins.

22:46:01 asciilifeform: the purpose of impossibly-hard targets isn't necessarily to protect valuables, but can be simply to torment the enemy

22:47:45 mircea_popescu: well the purpose of rotting pig carcasses with vaginas painted on the skin isn't so very different.

22:49:00 mircea_popescu: Namworld: That's not how you quit. Guy will just get in trouble for it, playing in his wife's back like that. < i agree. add a steel pole to your pool, chain her to the base. she can eat once every 100 laps.

22:49:25 mircea_popescu: after one million laps not only is she cured of whatevet you disliked, but also has a superb posterior.

22:50:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1310 @ 0.00012497 = 0.1637 BTC [+] {2}

22:51:05 mircea_popescu: but anyway, the guy is obviously trying to have someone write him a scamsite. found a decent pretext, but it's about as convincing as what kids trying to get you to do their homework come up with.

22:54:09 bounce: verily, asbocement. ITYM DDT and asbestos?

22:54:41 bounce: !google ASBO

22:55:22 mircea_popescu: asbestos yea

22:57:39 mircea_popescu: so who's going to show up to whatever derpy conference the vessenes merry band of scammers is organising and ask him how much did karpeles pay him to promote his scam ?

22:58:01 mircea_popescu: and all sorts of other interesting questions, such as how much of the muppets' donations to "the foundation" went to his girlfriend.

22:58:46 bounce: $400 entrance fee, or whatever it was, just to ask scammers why they be scammin'?

22:59:14 jurov: gonna be http://cebexpo.net/ here in vienna soon.. not sure power rangers come

22:59:16 BingoBoingo: 400 euros a ticket is more than most forum fraudsters take now, so... I think this goes in line with the whole don't feed scammers because it encourages them thing

22:59:50 jurov: oh shrem will

23:00:15 bounce: lovely mugshot collection

23:06:18 mircea_popescu: bounce if you do i'll pay your entrance. but no derpage, make it worth our while.

23:07:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3558 @ 0.00099818 = 3.5515 BTC [-] {2}

23:08:07 mircea_popescu: jurov shrem is like whatever, leper man walking.

23:08:37 mircea_popescu: "hi, i'm 24 and i made a deal with the usg to pretend like i'm still a human being, who knows, maybe the puppet master needs one sometime"

23:09:50 mircea_popescu: lol stallman gonna lose another gnu stuffie ?

23:10:08 mircea_popescu: ahahahaha josh zerlan ?! orly ?

23:10:23 mircea_popescu: jesus buterin looks derpy in that picture.

23:10:27 bounce: http://bitcoin2014.com/ is up top at the bitcoin foundation's website

23:10:48 mircea_popescu: so basically... a bunch of people nobody's heard of, btctalk's most reviled shill and a coupla would-be journos ?

23:10:49 asciilifeform: ;;google chestnut tree cafe

23:10:50 gribble: The Chestnut Tree Cafe: http://bartlebysfour.blogspot.com/; George Orwell: The Chestnut Tree Cafe - Charles' Orwell Links: http://www.netcharles.com/orwell/ctc/; SparkNotes: 1984: Book One: Chapters VII–VIII: https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/1984/section4.rhtml

23:11:08 jurov: and "one of the first bitcoin users in Germany."

23:11:48 mircea_popescu: keonne Dan Held is hawt, i'm told by my intel dept

23:12:27 jurov: should that concern me?

23:12:45 mircea_popescu: well maybe ?

23:12:48 mircea_popescu: "Meghan Kellison-Lords is a writer and activist from Pensacola, FL. She is the editor at Bitcoin Not Bombs, a writer at Young Voices and Bitcoin Magazine, office manager at Roberts and Roberts Brokerage, and volunteer at Sean?s Outpost Homeless Outreach. She is fascinated by"

23:12:50 mircea_popescu: poor girl.

23:13:15 mircea_popescu: this is like token black guy, except with geeks and women.

23:13:37 bounce: hmm. is the log a "legitimate medium" according to the "bitcoin 2014 definition of legitimate media"? needs letter from editor though. who edits the log?

23:14:13 jurov: yes, it bears duble cherry truck insignia

23:14:19 mircea_popescu: well no, you can't go as press and harrangue the speakers.

23:15:03 bounce: so it's get in free and don't critique or get in for $$$ and sing hosannas along with the prophets

23:15:22 thestringpuller: omg i'm sick of the bitcoin foundation

23:15:37 thestringpuller: just read the conference site...like

23:15:39 thestringpuller: really?

23:15:58 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if one tries to exist by pretending to exist, one's stuck with lulzier and lulzier pretense.

23:16:31 mircea_popescu: bounce not exactly

23:18:06 mircea_popescu: in other news, i got a prescreen of mpoe-pr's dress for teh conference

23:18:10 mircea_popescu: shit's stunning.

23:18:55 jurov: she deserves better chain, too

23:19:15 mircea_popescu: one dares not discuss womenz chains.

23:19:23 bounce: she's going to be in vienna then?

23:19:38 mircea_popescu: when i say teh conference i mean teh conference, not random derpage

23:19:52 thestringpuller: THE CONFERENCE

23:20:00 thestringpuller: probably one of the few if not only one that matters

23:20:17 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu are any core developers going to it?

23:20:39 asciilifeform: 'core developers' << ?

23:20:49 bounce: whoops. I retract what I asked.

23:20:52 mircea_popescu: i think cores kinda went out of fashion

23:20:52 thestringpuller: yes 'core developers'

23:20:56 thestringpuller: lol

23:21:21 mircea_popescu: liek what, 1975 ?

23:21:31 thestringpuller: we know all the real code is developed by the nameless

23:21:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i presume you still have some kl_core running somewhere ?

23:22:01 asciilifeform: ferrite?

23:22:29 asciilifeform: not atm - but would love to.

23:22:30 mircea_popescu: well yeah. ferrite core.

23:22:53 asciilifeform: how beautiful they were!

23:23:13 asciilifeform: http://ljkrakauer.com/LJK/essays/corestack1s.jpg

23:23:24 asciilifeform: http://blog.savel.org/stuff/20060111b.jpg

23:23:36 asciilifeform: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/parts/dg-corememory/FerriteCoreMemoryDGC-Nova.jpg

23:23:51 mircea_popescu: kinda the last time knitting and it looked similar.

23:23:53 jurov: thestringpuller: u goin?

23:24:08 bounce: read somewhere the bitcoin foundation opened up their forum for all the world to read. somebody take a copy. ought to be plenty research material there.

23:24:18 asciilifeform: if i recall, they were made by skilled weavers.

23:24:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yup

23:24:52 mircea_popescu: british textile industry is one of the antecessors of modern computers.

23:24:56 thestringpuller: jurov: I am incredibly tempted to book air fare, but as mod6 isn't going an I wanted to meet up with him there I decided to wait until next year for Series 3

23:25:00 mircea_popescu: like british typewriter manufacturers

23:25:14 mircea_popescu: (the royal mcbee for instance mostly made money selling typewriters)

23:25:28 thestringpuller: i'm still very tempted to book passage though...

23:25:33 jurov: thestringpuller mircea threatened to move to argentina

23:25:52 mircea_popescu: bounce may be worth it yea

23:27:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05840002 = 0.292 BTC [-]

23:28:50 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: is being a student a job?

23:29:04 thestringpuller: Someone just told me "i have a job. Student."

23:29:23 bounce: inasmuch as they're paying to have that job.

23:31:08 mircea_popescu: well let's put it this way : if that's what one thinks their job is,

23:31:13 mircea_popescu: then that's probably what their job should be.

23:31:55 BingoBoingo: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/703-serious-allegations-is-this-michael-thymos-marquardt-part-of-the-foundation/

23:33:32 mod6: yeah, just didn't work out this year. if its in SA next year, im pretty sure i'll be there.

23:33:35 mircea_popescu: sooo... they made public their posts about how they don't discuss publicly ?

23:33:36 mircea_popescu: such win.

23:34:08 BingoBoingo: Yeah

23:34:34 BingoBoingo: Seems like the goat forum where the lulz sit just beneath the surface

23:35:50 BingoBoingo: EIther that or just noone posts on their forums

23:36:41 mircea_popescu: just derpage about how "Law and Policy Steering Committee Information Started by Lindsay Holland Law and Policy Committee Chair: Mike Hearn Contact email for Chair: mhearn@bitcoinfoundation.org"

23:37:35 mircea_popescu: i mean herp mcderp, what can i tell you, birocratia maxima, some derp goes to target, buys a red stapler and an "Important Person" bumper sticker and suddenly we have yet another... important person with a red stapler.

23:38:10 mircea_popescu: it was better back when wikipedia retardation was mostly content to quarantine itself on wikipedia. but by now it's spilling the fuck over.

23:39:01 BingoBoingo: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/884-oh-no-gavins-leaving/

23:40:04 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it should be clear to all but the thickest, most disco-dan sort of people in their boat that the battle has been fought, and won, but not by them.

23:40:18 mircea_popescu: a minimally working conservation instinct would send everyone involved packing.

23:41:08 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure. I seems that more defections from there are likely in the coming months.

23:41:43 mircea_popescu: who knows, perhaps then there won't be need to hoist the entire troop from the highest catarg, just a few heads.

23:42:00 ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> bounce if you do i'll pay your entrance. but no derpage, make it worth our while. /// yet you wont pay for me to accost people at the Amsterdam one? :(

23:42:15 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves define accost ?

23:42:22 asciilifeform: these aren't 'defections,' any more than the proverbial rats who jump the sinking ship are 'mutineers.'

23:42:43 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well the proverbial rats would be defectors, yes. maps quite exactly.

23:42:51 mircea_popescu: the important point being that she's sunk.

23:42:53 ThickAsThieves: i'm willing to put anyone on the spot really

23:43:05 ThickAsThieves: as long as i agree with the line of questioning

23:43:07 cgcardona_: anyone gonna be at http://www.globalbtcsummit.com/en/ ?

23:43:11 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mutineers in the way they alert the loyal crew to the rat's low morale

23:43:18 asciilifeform: the animal that created the phoundation still lives

23:43:22 asciilifeform: it will re-group under another name

23:43:39 ThickAsThieves: reporter for fraudsters Ragazine

23:43:47 bounce: whoohoo an org chart. too bad it's not downloadable straight: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/796-bitcoin-foundation-org-chart-version-10-beta-march-22-2014/

23:44:12 davout: ThickAsThieves: "ragazine" i like this word

23:44:13 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so same goes to you then, ask vehehes a) how much did karpeles pay him to promote his scam ? and b) how much of the muppets' donations to "the foundation" went to his girlfriend.

23:44:40 ThickAsThieves: i dont think he'd answer thos equestions though

23:44:50 ThickAsThieves: he'll just huff n puff

23:45:22 ThickAsThieves: davout i didnt coin the word, i think i may have gotten it from someone else here

23:45:27 *: bounce would probably suck at actually questioning, so go ahead if you'd like

23:45:48 ThickAsThieves: is vehehe even going to Amsterdam

23:45:52 BingoBoingo: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/824-active-individual-membership-involvement-has-dropped-to-15/

23:45:53 ThickAsThieves: wait thats a dumb question

23:45:56 ThickAsThieves: of course he will

23:46:09 mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Somehow+Bitcoin+Ragazine+and+Vitalik+and+Co,+seem+to+paint+this+as+if+he%22&complete=0

23:46:13 mircea_popescu: check out that shit.

23:46:17 mircea_popescu: beleeted.

23:46:39 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo prepping a summation piece ?

23:46:55 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course

23:47:07 mircea_popescu: davout i could have sworn i coined teh ragazine, but i can't find any reference

23:47:16 mircea_popescu: apparently i have an overactive imagination.

23:47:39 ThickAsThieves: i'm so censorable

23:48:20 cgcardona_: schwagazine

23:48:25 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it appears exactly twice in the log, on mar 21st, we're like two minutes apart.

23:48:35 davout: cgcardona_: irc needs a "like" button

23:48:38 mircea_popescu: o shit twitter

23:48:42 ThickAsThieves: it aint censored btw

23:48:43 cgcardona_: :)

23:48:45 ThickAsThieves: "See More"

23:50:04 ThickAsThieves: yeah my logs show mp saying it first

23:50:16 mircea_popescu: nah, it wasn't invented in march

23:50:26 mircea_popescu: it's older, i distinctly recall it being used last year.

23:52:13 jurov: #bitcoin-assets.log:[Monday 07 January 2013] [18:58:28] <mircea_popescu> [03:06:29] cause the new bitcoin ragazine dood is there.

23:52:54 mircea_popescu: oic.

23:53:19 mircea_popescu: gotta learn how to grep right.

23:54:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03009998 = 0.3311 BTC [-] {2}

23:54:44 ThickAsThieves: actually peter isnt on the roster for Amsterdam

23:54:54 ThickAsThieves: thought they are claling it their annual meeting

23:55:23 mircea_popescu: aww

23:57:55 bounce: not as speaker or panelist anyway

23:57:56 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform of course it'll regroup and so forth, what do you want, schl?gen den teufel aus der welt ?

23:58:27 asciilifeform: lol

23:59:07 ThickAsThieves: "In 2009, non-Hispanic blacks, while only 13.6% of the population, accounted for 39.4% of the total prison and jail population." dafuck is a non-Hispanic black?

23:59:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00099703 = 11.9145 BTC [-]

23:59:56 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves people who aren't white and whose last name isn't rodriguez ?