Transcript for 07-05-2013, 796 lines:
00:38:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00071172 = 3.0604 BTC [+]
00:39:51 benkay: dude
00:39:59 benkay: tiberiusiv - banned?
00:40:11 benkay: he's like inoculations for your brain
00:48:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00072734 = 0.8728 BTC [+]
00:58:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.9399 = 3.8798 BTC [+]
00:58:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.94 = 3.88 BTC [+]
01:14:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00072734 = 1.3092 BTC [+]
01:20:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00072118 = 1.1539 BTC [-]
01:31:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.018 = 0.45 BTC [-]
01:31:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.017 = 0.425 BTC [-]
01:39:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.0126 = 1.008 BTC [+]
01:47:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00071843 = 4.2387 BTC [-]
02:20:38 bgupta: mircea_popescu: What's your take on Transnistria?
02:20:47 mircea_popescu: my take ?!
02:21:16 mircea_popescu: my take on transnistria is bed. catch you later :)
02:40:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21879 BTC [+]
02:52:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2188 BTC [+]
03:02:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00071843 = 3.7358 BTC [-]
03:02:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00072118 = 0.5769 BTC [+]
03:02:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3152 @ 0.00072999 = 2.3009 BTC [+]
03:02:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2548 @ 0.00073382 = 1.8698 BTC [+]
03:03:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.21879 BTC [-]
03:03:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2188 BTC [+]
03:04:44 savetheinternet: time to sell my asicminer shares imho
03:07:29 KRS1: y
03:13:21 parseval: Sell them to my buy orders :)
03:38:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00073382 = 4.8432 BTC [+]
03:45:42 benkay: ;;ticker
03:45:43 gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 106.80500, Best ask: 106.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09499, Last trade: 106.89999, 24 hour volume: 162935.83302000, 24 hour low: 102.00000, 24 hour high: 124.90000, 24 hour vwap: 115.30036
03:55:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.2188 = 6.094 BTC [+]
03:56:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2188 BTC [+]
04:03:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2188 BTC [+]
04:23:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 58 @ 0.0126 = 0.7308 BTC [+]
04:23:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 39 @ 0.0126 = 0.4914 BTC [+]
04:23:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 61 @ 0.0126 = 0.7686 BTC [+]
04:34:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2188 BTC [+]
04:44:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2122 @ 0.00071667 = 1.5208 BTC [-]
04:51:52 dub: for the naysayers here, eff has been in court since 2008 over NSA intercepting the internet
05:00:03 dub: its never actually been a secret, people in net engineering circles have een helping implement it since the 90's
05:00:20 dub: been*
05:01:06 dub: but its come up here a few times and people don't seem to want to beleive
05:06:35 toffoo: does ssl help us in this scenario or no?
05:08:09 inhies: cjdns!
05:09:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2188 = 2.4376 BTC [+]
05:09:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 778 @ 0.00071667 = 0.5576 BTC [-]
05:19:04 benkay: so this mega thing is pretty rad
05:19:10 benkay: who's going to write a music player for it?
05:22:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 4 @ 0.00168 = 0.0067 BTC [+]
05:23:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00169 BTC [+]
05:28:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107999 BTC [-]
05:28:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.0007113 = 3.2364 BTC [-]
05:41:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2221 = 3.6663 BTC [+]
05:45:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC [+]
05:55:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.012625 = 0.0253 BTC [+]
06:36:05 jurov: MJR_ mjr___ mjr_1 how it went?
06:36:54 jurov: reddit went pretty ballistic on it "laws that say how exchanging any amount of cash for bitcoin without being a registered money transmitter is illegal"
06:37:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.2 = 6 BTC [-]
06:44:13 jurov: oh here it is:
06:47:02 benkay: i wish i had been there
06:47:16 benkay: first cryptocurrency open outcry
06:47:25 benkay: i'll show everyone an open outcry
06:47:31 benkay: *bawwww*
06:58:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.012625 = 0.0758 BTC [+]
07:12:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.0007113 = 1.1025 BTC [-]
07:32:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.0007113 = 2.2762 BTC [-]
07:49:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2945 @ 0.00070992 = 2.0907 BTC [-]
07:55:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3705 @ 0.00070617 = 2.6164 BTC [-]
07:55:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1845 @ 0.00069971 = 1.291 BTC [-]
07:58:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00070921 = 2.9078 BTC [+]
08:18:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00069971 = 6.0175 BTC [-]
08:20:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 7 @ 0.107999 = 0.756 BTC [-]
08:34:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00070897 = 3.8284 BTC [+]
08:40:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.012625 = 0.101 BTC [+]
09:34:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4792 @ 0.00070897 = 3.3974 BTC [+]
09:44:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3873 @ 0.00070921 = 2.7468 BTC [+]
09:45:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00071083 = 4.5849 BTC [+]
09:45:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00071324 = 0.3416 BTC [+]
09:48:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.012625 = 0.0884 BTC [+]
10:04:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.25 = 6.25 BTC [+]
10:10:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00071324 = 2.7103 BTC [+]
10:12:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.251 BTC [+]
10:12:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.252 BTC [+]
10:13:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.253 = 11.277 BTC [+]
10:13:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.254 = 6.27 BTC [+]
10:22:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.255 = 7.53 BTC [+]
10:40:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5783 @ 0.00071324 = 4.1247 BTC [+]
10:40:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1067 @ 0.00071447 = 0.7623 BTC [+]
10:43:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00070949 = 3.4765 BTC [-]
10:43:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108 @ 0.00070897 = 0.0766 BTC [-]
10:43:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00070625 = 6.3209 BTC [-]
10:43:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3742 @ 0.00070252 = 2.6288 BTC [-]
10:45:25 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
10:45:26 gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.92000, Best ask: 110.92899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 110.92000, 24 hour volume: 157268.23980772, 24 hour low: 102.00000, 24 hour high: 124.90000, 24 hour vwap: 113.68335
10:45:39 mircea_popescu: lol. look at all the stuff that's not happening!
10:50:17 Namworld: Indeed
10:51:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6833 @ 0.00071447 = 4.882 BTC [+]
10:51:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2767 @ 0.0007197 = 1.9914 BTC [+]
11:03:26 jurov: seems mpex withdrawals are not happening either :D
11:03:57 jurov: ;;seens smickles
11:03:58 gribble: Error: "seens" is not a valid command.
11:04:01 jurov: ;;seen smickles
11:04:01 gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 4 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
11:04:26 jurov: lol a month passed already
11:06:37 mircea_popescu: jurov in about an hour i'd say.
11:16:21 mircea_popescu: twitter is too much fun.
11:16:26 mircea_popescu: @mircea_popescu I wanna screw your girlfriend. Deal ? @jdrive I want a dune buggy. There, I said it.
11:18:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.255 = 5.02 BTC [+]
11:19:51 mircea_popescu: ahgagag.
11:20:10 davout: jurov: wtf
11:20:32 jurov: seems just a joke
11:20:39 jurov: but this looks serious: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192008.msg2051199
11:20:53 jurov: notice the sauna in program
11:22:06 jurov: sauna 50 hours nonstop
11:27:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.012625 = 0.1894 BTC [+]
11:30:23 mircea_popescu: maybe they're making a new alt chain
11:30:27 mircea_popescu: proof of perspiration.
11:31:15 davout: mircea_popescu: in a proof of wit chain, your blocks would be rejected
11:32:00 jurov: why? they would cause permanent fork due to bug in code, if anything
11:32:27 mircea_popescu: o yeah ?! well screw you guys
11:32:29 mircea_popescu: im going home.
11:33:45 kakobrekla: hi
11:34:17 jurov: hi kakocnut
11:34:31 kakobrekla: sup
11:35:20 jurov: apparently nothing... just some sauna supernode
11:35:21 kakobrekla: im a jerk now
11:35:25 kakobrekla: i just read.
11:35:58 jurov: kakojerk?
11:36:04 kakobrekla: jerkako
11:37:13 kakobrekla: >You are a very negative person - and full of assumptions.
11:37:16 kakobrekla: i hear that a lot
11:37:24 kakobrekla: and a after a while they normally apologize
11:38:48 mircea_popescu: lol
11:38:58 mircea_popescu: kakojerkla
11:39:18 KRS1: Fontas is involved with it somehow
11:39:32 mircea_popescu: so that mem guy is going all ballistic over "racism11!!"
11:39:40 BitHub: foooooontas
11:39:47 jurov: where?
11:39:47 KRS1: I heard Fontas made this one dude's children orphans by running off with this guy's wife.
11:40:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 21 @ 0.01889 = 0.3967 BTC [+]
11:41:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.0189 = 0.945 BTC [+]
11:41:41 mircea_popescu: who's fantomas ?
11:42:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.01899 = 0.9495 BTC [+]
11:42:25 KRS1: the famous altcoin pumper chickun
11:42:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.018999 = 0.95 BTC [+]
11:42:55 mircea_popescu: oh ?
11:43:04 mircea_popescu: dude fame happens to fast, was he here even three months ago ?
11:43:59 kakobrekla: fly chickun
11:44:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231 BTC [-]
11:44:12 KRS1: he was working in a convenience store selling cigarettes and beer until he found this USB drive labeled "btc wallet" a customer left behind
11:44:24 kakobrekla: dis a joke?
11:44:26 KRS1: As it turns out, the customer didnt passwd protect his digital wallet
11:44:44 KRS1: so the legend goes..now he dresses in Armani suits and pumps alt coins for profit
11:44:53 BitHub: fontase is a satoshi prodigy genius, unchained
11:45:05 kakobrekla: huh
11:45:23 mircea_popescu: KRS1 right-o.
11:45:34 mircea_popescu: because every scammer knows the secret to survival is making up good stories.
11:45:53 mircea_popescu: but i am very happy to notice the new trends, specifically :
11:45:54 KRS1: ;)
11:46:00 mircea_popescu: A. scammers are now affraid of BTC pretty much
11:46:11 mircea_popescu: B. scammers are more interested in softscamming than actual coins.
11:46:18 mircea_popescu: ie, they'll try to scam "face" rather than money.
11:46:25 mircea_popescu: this is nicely maturing along after all.
11:46:54 kakobrekla: hmm?
11:47:06 kakobrekla: scam face?
11:47:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 6 @ 0.01888 = 0.1133 BTC [-]
11:48:06 mircea_popescu: "face", it's this chinese concept
11:48:17 mircea_popescu: like... fame, say.
11:48:41 mircea_popescu: basically the goal of the scammers is more being as known as justin bieber than as rich as warrenn buffett these days.
11:49:09 kakobrekla: dunno
11:49:26 kakobrekla: one could hardly be rich with btc until recenetly
11:50:13 mircea_popescu: well btc-rich obviously.
11:50:17 KRS1: Armani suites dude..
11:50:48 davout: real class doesn't need an armani suit
11:51:01 davout: (a hugo boss one is largely sufficient :-) )
11:51:04 mircea_popescu: lol
11:51:09 KRS1: it does if he came from a clerk in a convenience store
11:51:15 mircea_popescu: am i strictly the only guy in btc whio actually wears suits ?
11:51:35 KRS1: I think yours is called a "Leisure Suit"
11:51:42 davout: KRS1: lol
11:51:51 KRS1: which is also very cool dont get me wrong
11:52:16 kakobrekla: mjr wears a suite
11:52:23 kakobrekla: doesnt it
11:52:25 kakobrekla: he
11:52:31 davout: no
11:52:40 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla jeans don't count. also need vest.
11:52:54 kakobrekla: he didnt have jeans
11:53:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 19 @ 0.01888 = 0.3587 BTC [-]
11:53:01 davout: but he didn't have a suit
11:53:04 mircea_popescu: im saying generally!
11:53:08 KRS1: See, travolta made the leisure suit cool: http://onehonestman.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/leisure-suit1.jpg
11:53:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.01875 = 0.4688 BTC [-]
11:53:17 kakobrekla: what did he have then
11:53:19 mircea_popescu: KRS1 you are proceeding on very partial information.
11:53:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 24 @ 0.0185 = 0.444 BTC [-]
11:53:22 kakobrekla: if not a suit
11:53:29 mircea_popescu: the current blog header rotates, out of about a dozen or so picks
11:53:31 mircea_popescu: pix*
11:53:33 davout: dunno, like non-jean pants + shirt
11:53:50 davout: IT DOES NOT QUALIFY AS A SUIT GODDAMMIT
11:53:57 kakobrekla: lets see
11:53:57 mircea_popescu: shuddup frenchie :D
11:54:15 kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/OC7TsEzh.jpg
11:54:22 kakobrekla: ok thats not him but suits?
11:54:32 davout: LOL
11:54:35 kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/99vxqXQh.jpg
11:54:35 kakobrekla: aha
11:54:39 kakobrekla: tie is missing
11:54:44 kakobrekla: look mircea, no suite for you
11:55:00 davout: did the pants match the vest ?
11:55:04 kakobrekla: yes
11:55:06 kakobrekla: black
11:55:15 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know that's just some random waiter right ?
11:55:18 davout: well, i guess that, it is suit
11:56:15 kakobrekla: mircea_popescu :)
11:56:25 kakobrekla: heres the full set http://imgur.com/a/wEW8Q
11:56:30 kakobrekla: isnt mine
11:56:39 mircea_popescu: i think it's mjr's
11:56:49 kakobrekla: the suites guy.
11:57:29 mircea_popescu: no, the clubbin failpix guy :D
11:57:46 kakobrekla: lol
11:57:57 Scrat: i cant fap to this
11:59:34 mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/fraudsters/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/
11:59:37 mircea_popescu: fap to that then
11:59:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2850 @ 0.00317509 = 9.049 BTC [+]
12:01:00 kakobrekla: later bbl
12:01:16 Scrat: 1) paywall. check 2) everything in romanian. check
12:01:42 davout: Scrat: lol
12:02:21 mircea_popescu: poor people fap to small pix.
12:02:26 PsychoticBoy: ;;seen gigavps
12:02:27 gribble: gigavps was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 weeks, 4 days, 14 hours, 49 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <gigavps> well, we can rule out c, i have block chain transaction to prove what i have paid
12:02:30 davout: mircea_popescu: you should add a BUYCREDITS command to mpex
12:02:41 mircea_popescu: lol
12:02:53 davout: seriously
12:03:01 mircea_popescu: no, i should add 0.1% of all deposits > fraudsters credits
12:03:01 davout: your payment gateway sucks
12:03:23 davout: getting credits for depositing?
12:03:41 mircea_popescu: getting part of your deposit as credits. like in socialism!
12:03:48 davout: oh
12:14:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2 = 12 BTC [+]
12:15:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.30999999 = 0.62 BTC [+]
12:21:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 169 @ 0.01001 = 1.6917 BTC [-]
12:26:14 parseval: I probably shouldn't have used sqlite to store all of gox's historical trade data..
12:26:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1333 @ 0.0007197 = 0.9594 BTC [+]
12:26:47 parseval: I want to graph the USD value for various securities over time
12:27:50 Scrat: why not? sqlite isn't that bad for time series
12:29:19 KRS1: Why do these naked pool parties always happen in some far off country in Europe or something.
12:29:26 mircea_popescu: parseval actually this sounds interesting. ding me when you have the graphs ?
12:29:58 KRS1: And goddamnit every picture I click on takes me to an article with no picture..how am I supposed to fap to thi
12:29:59 KRS1: this
12:30:11 parseval: Sure
12:30:23 mircea_popescu: lol wut
12:30:54 mircea_popescu: btw, anyone here try planeshift recently ?
12:31:04 mircea_popescu: it's pretty good by now.
12:31:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0185 = 0.4625 BTC [-]
12:31:12 KRS1: I have needs too..I want to see pic 42 at least fullscreen
12:31:40 parseval: sqlite seems a bit slow.. I'm going to reprocess the data into 5 minute intervals with the average price and volume for that interval
12:31:53 KRS1: Are these girls your friends?
12:31:55 mircea_popescu: parseval honestly 1 day intervals would be a great thing to have.
12:32:09 orkaa: haha
12:32:11 mircea_popescu: KRS1 jealous ? :D
12:33:03 KRS1: yeah that one girl with the small boobies is a must have
12:33:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.0126 = 0.4788 BTC [-]
12:33:17 Scrat: parseval: how big is the data? I've found sqlite to be very fast for running queries on time series
12:33:31 KRS1: I have a pool the best I ever did was have one stripper naked in it, nothing like this.
12:33:42 KRS1: I think coke was involved somehow
12:34:13 mircea_popescu: nope, not at all.
12:34:20 parseval: I'm doing the initial imports, it's about 1gb of json data up through the end of april
12:34:25 mircea_popescu: they're nice girls, too. in school and everything
12:35:07 mircea_popescu: for that matter, the boat cost more than they did.
12:35:39 Scrat: parseval: you have to group chunks of 10k inserts into transactions
12:36:00 parseval: Well, I'm throwing it all into Django ORM, so that probably adds a bit of overhead
12:36:15 Scrat: yeah, like 100000% overhead
12:36:19 Scrat: (Seriously)
12:36:41 parseval: It'll make querying the data a lot easier in the end though
12:36:59 davout: parseval: s/Django/Rails/
12:37:20 davout: (let's get this started xD)
12:38:23 Scrat: lol rails
12:38:45 Scrat: I guess it's ok if you want to get railed in the ass
12:40:18 mircea_popescu: lol
12:41:31 davout: meh
12:41:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00072524 = 9.7545 BTC [+]
12:50:42 Framedragger: eh, i've to import ~400gb of data into postgres, i do ORM commit every 100k inserts, it's actually quite fast :) (sqlalchemy orm abstraction). not really a problem
12:52:18 Framedragger: parseval: yeah i don't think sqlite is a good solution in terms of scaling. if you're using ORM abstraction, changing the underlying DB shouldn't be a prob, unless you're using some DB-specific functions. postgres is really nice for Shitloads of Data type of situations
12:52:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.00295 = 0.1475 BTC [-]
12:52:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 238 @ 0.00294 = 0.6997 BTC [-]
12:54:44 Scrat: it's fine
12:54:58 Scrat: sqlite will do 100k inserts per second on crapy hardware if you group them
12:55:18 Scrat: and build indices afterwards
12:56:04 Scrat: but you wouldn't use SQL for storing BIG time series
12:56:52 Scrat: there are DBs made specifically for that. there are also generics like Cassandra or mongo that excel at it
12:57:50 davout: Scrat: depends about what you call "big"
12:59:21 Scrat: davout: well, 100+ gigs of randomly accessible time series
13:00:07 davout: if you have the disk space i don't see how a well indexed sql storage wouldn't be adapted
13:00:52 Scrat: not saying that it doesn't work. it's just not optimal
13:03:10 Scrat: can't go wrong with postgres though
13:03:23 Scrat: unless you want to do multimaster. heh
13:03:50 mircea_popescu: db design might be the most "overengineered as a hobby" thing in it.
13:04:17 Scrat: premature optimization to the point of insanity
13:04:29 Scrat: please disregard everything i've just said
13:04:30 mircea_popescu: ^
13:06:52 Framedragger: yeah, db design can turn into a fetish, unless it turns out significant optimizations are relevant to business strategy and whatnot
13:07:39 Framedragger: heh, postgres + multimaster.. yeah :)
13:07:43 mircea_popescu: Framedragger i think the cause is this : db ops may take > 1 minute.
13:07:50 mircea_popescu: that's one minute or more left for the author to fret
13:08:12 Framedragger: heheh, well if we are also worried about DB _querying_ though..
13:08:17 mircea_popescu: nobody just goes "fuck it, saving 4 hours out of 7 is not worth spending 2 days coding"
13:08:25 Framedragger: where responsive near-realtime APIs are built, etc
13:08:38 Framedragger: yeah
13:08:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00072524 = 3.1548 BTC [+]
13:14:16 ThickAsThieves: ;;tslb
13:14:20 gribble: Time since last block: 44 minutes and 11 seconds
13:14:43 ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
13:14:45 gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 10666629.6451 based on data since last change | 11536948.7666 based on data for last three days
13:17:35 davout: ;;ticker
13:17:36 gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 104.30002, Best ask: 104.90479, Bid-ask spread: 0.60477, Last trade: 104.90479, 24 hour volume: 152353.43826341, 24 hour low: 102.00000, 24 hour high: 124.66300, 24 hour vwap: 112.03069
13:17:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5909 @ 0.0007281 = 4.3023 BTC [+]
13:19:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 15 @ 0.00169 = 0.0254 BTC [+]
13:20:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.0188 = 0.376 BTC [+]
13:27:04 parseval: Framedragger: I'm just using this as an intermediary store on my local box for some testing so I don't have to throw in a full fledged database.. It's a simple delete and rerun until everything is nailed down with the import. Eventually I'll move out to mysql or postgres for the actual application
13:27:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0188 = 0.47 BTC [+]
13:29:07 Framedragger: parseval: sure, just note that it's usually trivial (as in, perhaps only change the db configuration string in your app's config) to change the underlying DB (installing and starting a DB server with default config is also usually really simple) - but yeah, would be interesting to see your results eventually, good luck!
13:29:25 parseval: Thanks :)
13:31:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7091 @ 0.0007281 = 5.163 BTC [+]
13:31:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4909 @ 0.0007295 = 3.5811 BTC [+]
13:42:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00315 = 0.0473 BTC [+]
13:42:34 MJR_: LOLZ
13:43:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.018 = 0.45 BTC [-]
13:43:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.017 = 0.425 BTC [-]
13:44:00 ThickAsThieves: nice
13:44:02 ThickAsThieves: gj
13:44:28 ThickAsThieves: important they mentioned your loafers
13:45:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0125 = 0.025 BTC [-]
13:45:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0125 BTC [-]
13:45:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0125 BTC [-]
13:45:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0125 = 0.05 BTC [-]
13:45:29 Scrat: TAT.ASICMINER tanking
13:45:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.0125 = 0.275 BTC [-]
13:45:47 Scrat: oh wait its not
13:47:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0125 BTC [-]
13:47:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2549 BTC [+]
13:47:37 ThickAsThieves: hehe
13:47:47 ThickAsThieves: never sold below .0125 yet
13:47:52 ThickAsThieves: afaik
13:48:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 57 @ 0.0125 = 0.7125 BTC [-]
13:50:57 mircea_popescu: nice MJR_
13:59:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
14:06:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3165 @ 0.0007295 = 2.3089 BTC [+]
14:06:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10919 @ 0.00072962 = 7.9667 BTC [+]
14:15:40 error4733: ;;bids 0
14:15:43 gribble: There are currently 5.0476089e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 17084843.7602 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0289 seconds
14:17:11 deadweasel: nicely done MJR_
14:27:20 MJR_: thanks guys
14:28:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.24 = 2.48 BTC [-]
14:28:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.231 BTC [-]
14:28:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-]
14:36:53 jurov: ;;bc,stats
14:36:56 gribble: Current Blocks: 234989 | Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 | Next Difficulty In: 882 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 6 hours, 45 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10699222.0093 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.18213
14:46:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.107 = 0.321 BTC [-]
14:47:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00073042 = 4.0904 BTC [+]
14:47:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5102 @ 0.00073382 = 3.7439 BTC [+]
14:47:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 616 @ 0.000735 = 0.4528 BTC [+]
14:52:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0188 = 0.094 BTC [+]
15:02:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22003 BTC [-]
15:03:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22002 BTC [-]
15:03:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.212 = 3.636 BTC [-]
15:03:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00072985 = 6.6781 BTC [-]
15:03:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.211021 BTC [-]
15:03:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.21102 = 2.422 BTC [-]
15:03:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.21101 = 3.633 BTC [-]
15:03:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.211 = 2.422 BTC [-]
15:04:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.012613 = 0.0505 BTC [+]
15:08:04 error4733: ;;bids 0
15:08:04 gribble: There are currently 5.0475987e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 16649216.8979 USD in total. | Data vintage: 117.2777 seconds
15:11:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4345 @ 0.00072985 = 3.1712 BTC [-]
15:11:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7814 @ 0.00072524 = 5.667 BTC [-]
15:22:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.012613 BTC [+]
15:31:19 jurov: $avg
15:31:21 mpexbot: jurov: 108.61
15:34:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.012613 = 0.0505 BTC [+]
15:50:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.107 = 0.963 BTC [-]
16:11:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25377 BTC [+]
16:11:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25377 BTC [+]
16:17:14 mod6: $vwap ^OIX
16:17:16 mpexbot: mod6: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 90.02793313 high: 160.83836109 low: 72.33603038 volume: 3473 btc: 1336.92580709 30 day: no data
16:23:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25378 BTC [+]
16:23:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2538 BTC [+]
16:23:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.254 BTC [+]
16:24:16 TomServo: ;;next
16:24:17 gribble: expecting to test 110 | support 102, 100, 97, 94 | resistance: 108 | #bitcoin [Tue, 07 May 2013 15:59:50 +0000] | tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/139er6E | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle | 24 minutes and 26 seconds ago
16:30:05 benkay: take that next crap back to analysis, tomservo
16:30:12 benkay: ;)
16:30:18 TomServo: easy killer
16:33:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.254999 BTC [+]
16:36:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.018 = 0.18 BTC [-]
16:45:21 jurov: https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Bitcoin ... rather underwhelming
16:45:49 jurov: but dunno where this came from: "The value of the bitcoin is pegged to AZNs"
16:48:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4384 @ 0.000735 = 3.2222 BTC [+]
16:48:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00073581 = 0.3429 BTC [+]
16:56:23 Scrat: azns = math
17:01:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2196 @ 0.00073581 = 1.6158 BTC [+]
17:02:39 mircea_popescu: jurov ed dioed about a decade ago
17:03:42 jurov: heh okay
17:05:13 jurov: That, coupled with the fact that I am young and willing to take my life in a new direction, have pushed towards my presence at the Summit.
17:05:32 jurov: oh, sweet innocence....
17:05:51 jurov: (from sauna supernode summit thread)
17:10:11 kakobrekla: omg
17:10:19 kakobrekla: bitstamp is way more lame than i thought it was
17:10:26 kakobrekla: this is fuckin shame
17:10:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.25377 = 6.2689 BTC [-]
17:10:51 jurov: kako, what's this time?
17:11:01 kakobrekla: so
17:11:04 kakobrekla: they have an api
17:11:06 kakobrekla: but no api keys
17:11:12 kakobrekla: you need to use username and password
17:11:15 kakobrekla: each time
17:11:24 kakobrekla: OMG!?
17:11:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
17:12:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.107999 = 0.864 BTC [+]
17:15:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
17:19:42 mircea_popescu: <jurov> oh, sweet innocence.... <<< it's a trap :D
17:21:36 jurov: yeah reptilia could fall for it :D
17:23:40 joecool: lulz just had the office bugging out cause i had a VPN setup on one of the main systems called "Romanian Wizards"
17:27:42 mircea_popescu: lol
17:29:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.30999999 = 1.55 BTC [+]
17:31:33 kakobrekla: jurov who posted that about summit
17:32:35 jurov: kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192008.msg2061664#msg2061664
17:33:39 kakobrekla: hm
17:33:48 kakobrekla: so if i take the virtual delegate ticket
17:33:51 kakobrekla: can i still go to sauna?
17:34:36 jurov: you can propose to have webcams in sauna then
17:34:54 jurov: for full coverage :DDDD
17:35:10 kakobrekla: yeah, that would be worth the whatever amout of dessertspoons of btc he is asking for it
17:36:01 mod6: haha
17:37:34 jurov: log.error("Matched trade date:%s earlier than order create date:%s", t['Date'], o.dateCreated)
17:37:47 jurov: ^^me adding another mpex quirk to code
17:39:29 jurov: dunno when that cesium clock goe through mpex clearance
17:43:18 mircea_popescu: lalala
17:43:54 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla too slovenly for sauna srry.
17:44:08 kakobrekla: aww cmon
17:44:39 mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/6697.html
17:44:42 mircea_popescu: there you go jurov
17:45:38 jurov: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134660177871.jpg ic, very rigorous :)
17:46:36 mircea_popescu: Currently at Rent-VPS.net we have 339 Mining Rigs (see below)
17:46:36 mircea_popescu: We Accept Paypal - Easy , Fast and Secure
17:46:40 mircea_popescu: they're email spamming nao.
17:53:07 benkay: good for them, denominating in bitcoin
17:56:43 jcpham: pics or bullshit
17:56:54 jcpham: i want to see 339 colo's mining rigs
17:59:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [-]
18:05:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8960 @ 0.00073293 = 6.5671 BTC [-]
18:06:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.41 = 2.87 BTC [+]
18:06:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
18:09:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.012613 = 0.0378 BTC [+]
18:11:22 mircea_popescu: lol srsly.
18:22:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0007346 = 0.7346 BTC [+]
18:23:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.0007358 = 0.5519 BTC [+]
18:23:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00073406 = 0.7341 BTC [-]
18:26:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00073406 = 0.9176 BTC [-]
18:27:37 mircea_popescu: lol, apparently that's a rented car.
18:28:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.0007358 = 4.2309 BTC [+]
18:28:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00073581 = 1.5452 BTC [+]
18:38:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2495 BTC [-]
18:38:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2495 = 3.7485 BTC [-]
18:38:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2496 BTC [+]
18:39:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2496 = 2.4992 BTC [+]
18:39:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2497 BTC [+]
18:39:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2497 = 2.4994 BTC [+]
18:40:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.25 = 5 BTC [+]
18:40:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.255 BTC [+]
18:40:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.255 = 3.765 BTC [+]
18:40:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.255556 = 8.7889 BTC [+]
18:48:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.255556 = 3.7667 BTC [+]
18:59:32 topace: ThickAsThieves: ping
19:04:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00073406 = 5.8725 BTC [-]
19:04:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 422 @ 0.00073293 = 0.3093 BTC [-]
19:04:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3320 @ 0.00073051 = 2.4253 BTC [-]
19:17:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1673 @ 0.00073051 = 1.2221 BTC [-]
19:19:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.0007358 = 1.1037 BTC [+]
19:19:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5688 @ 0.00073581 = 4.1853 BTC [+]
19:19:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112 @ 0.00073671 = 0.0825 BTC [+]
19:21:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19979 BTC [+]
19:22:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.1998 = 0.7992 BTC [+]
19:22:58 MJR_: hi all
19:23:01 MJR_: what's new
19:25:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.00642 BTC [+]
19:27:02 mod6: hey MJR_, sounds like there was quite the turn out at the open-cry market yesterday
19:31:35 truff1es: no new blog posts mjr?
19:35:56 MJR_: working on one
19:36:01 MJR_: i was so exhausted yesterday
19:36:05 MJR_: i fell right into bed
19:36:11 MJR_: and back at work at 4am
19:36:19 MJR_: working on the web app now
19:36:27 MJR_: then i'll blog later tonight, after i have a few drinks in me
19:36:44 mod6: heheh, werd
19:37:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00073051 = 0.8766 BTC [-]
19:39:13 truff1es: busy life u lead
19:48:52 jurov: kakobrekla or anyone: have you withdrawed from bitstamp recently?
19:48:59 mircea_popescu: m_p!~AndChat13@adsl-068-209-251-085.sip.asm.bellsouth.net failed to login to mircea_popescu.
19:49:02 kakobrekla: define recently
19:49:03 mircea_popescu: ok who's da smartass.
19:49:11 jurov: since they changed account
19:49:16 jurov: sepa seems to take longer than usual
19:49:27 kakobrekla: it went from 1 to 3 days apparently
19:49:52 kakobrekla: yes there seems to be more delays
19:50:02 jurov: plus another 2-3 days to confirm the withrawal
19:50:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2578 BTC [+]
19:50:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.2579 = 2.5158 BTC [+]
19:50:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25795 BTC [+]
19:50:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25795 BTC [+]
19:50:48 jurov: seems i§ll move my ops to bitcoin.de (although that's different can of worms)
19:51:19 jurov: ;;slap davout
19:51:29 jurov: that's for b-c
19:52:04 kakobrekla: jurov they are retards
19:52:06 kakobrekla: but then again
19:52:08 kakobrekla: im a cunt.
19:52:31 jurov: but you seem to use them anyway...
19:52:53 kakobrekla: via proxy
19:52:54 kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/18/vU/18LGkL4t/stamp.png
19:53:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 9 @ 0.00642 = 0.0578 BTC [+]
19:55:41 jurov: ah it came already..my scumbag bank added it sometime after 16:00, i need to pay sth quickly and tomorrow is holiday
19:55:50 jurov: whatever
20:02:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.012625 BTC [+]
20:06:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 157 @ 0.00073051 = 0.1147 BTC [-]
20:06:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00072916 = 1.8958 BTC [-]
20:13:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22505 BTC [-]
20:13:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.22504 = 2.4501 BTC [-]
20:13:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22502 BTC [-]
20:13:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.225 BTC [-]
20:13:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [-]
20:19:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007259 = 3.1366 BTC [-]
20:19:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7407 @ 0.00072608 = 5.3781 BTC [+]
20:20:36 kakobrekla: MJR_ ping
20:20:40 kakobrekla: or are you drunk already
20:22:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01002 BTC [+]
20:31:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36 @ 0.00072608 = 0.0261 BTC [+]
20:31:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00073522 = 3.1769 BTC [+]
20:31:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00073535 = 0.7354 BTC [+]
20:31:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 521 @ 0.00073536 = 0.3831 BTC [+]
20:33:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.012625 = 0.1389 BTC [+]
20:33:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.012625 = 0.1136 BTC [+]
20:34:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4640 @ 0.00073536 = 3.4121 BTC [+]
20:34:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2588 @ 0.00073671 = 1.9066 BTC [+]
20:34:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1272 @ 0.00073729 = 0.9378 BTC [+]
20:40:18 jurov: s.mpoe about to pop the lid?
20:45:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.0188 = 0.47 BTC [+]
20:45:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0188 BTC [+]
20:56:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 142 @ 0.012625 = 1.7928 BTC [+]
20:57:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107999 BTC [+]
20:59:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24999 BTC [+]
20:59:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
20:59:53 kakobrekla: bitfloor #2 or smth
21:00:29 kakobrekla: after what maver did...
21:00:39 kakobrekla: im not sure why anyone is still doing any biz with him
21:01:16 kakobrekla: at least get a new nick or something.
21:02:58 ThickAsThieves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg2053249#msg2053249 <<Diablo drama, if anyone is interested
21:06:25 pgp: i presume that this has already been posted... but just in case http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?play=1&video=3000166533
21:09:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00073725 = 0.7373 BTC [-]
21:09:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00073729 = 5.6034 BTC [+]
21:11:57 kakobrekla: omg pgp
21:12:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3001 = 3.001 BTC [-]
21:12:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [-]
21:12:06 kakobrekla: im at 3 min
21:12:10 kakobrekla: is this guy retarded
21:12:53 kakobrekla: good luck america
21:12:56 mod6: haha
21:13:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.246 BTC [-]
21:16:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25699 BTC [+]
21:16:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2575 BTC [+]
21:17:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 25 @ 0.018 = 0.45 BTC [-]
21:23:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4645 BTC [+]
21:24:36 dub: you think thats air you are breathing?
21:24:50 kakobrekla: hehe
21:24:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2579 BTC [+]
21:26:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4645 BTC [+]
21:26:05 pgp: yeah - CTFC guy is kinda ridiculous - the whole discussion was ridiculous...
21:26:57 kakobrekla: preetymuch
21:27:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00073725 = 2.138 BTC [-]
21:28:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4645 BTC [+]
21:36:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [+]
21:47:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1506 @ 0.00073725 = 1.1103 BTC [-]
21:47:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1128 @ 0.00073729 = 0.8317 BTC [+]
21:47:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7166 @ 0.0007373 = 5.2835 BTC [+]
21:48:55 dub: whats with the hair
21:49:52 dub: trying to win some of that assange groupie pussy?
21:50:56 kakobrekla: lol
22:05:59 Framedragger: syria broke off of internet, more or less :(
22:06:05 error4733: i sold some ripple, any interrest ?
22:06:38 Framedragger: someone asked, what would happen to syrian-based bitcoin transactions that were to be made offline.. :/
22:07:14 benkay: hash by hand bro
22:07:27 benkay: peer over tin cans and string
22:08:16 truff1es: http://rt.com/usa/alamos-secure-internet-quantum-902/ possible?
22:08:41 benkay: hard to peer with their setup
22:08:50 benkay: node and spoke works well when you don't want a kerjillion nodes
22:09:03 benkay: when you want a kerjillion nodes, perhaps more sane architecture is nodes that can peer
22:09:22 benkay: hub and spoke, excuse me
22:15:13 Framedragger: truff1es i think that's more about encryption.. in the end, you need actual fibres, or whatever physical medium to carry the data over.. and that's what's at issue in syria
22:17:16 ThickAsThieves: bitcoiners could sponsor a web satellite for stuff like syria and egypt incidents
22:17:28 ThickAsThieves: or google or virgin
22:18:40 Framedragger: would be nice heh, but would still need hardware on their side to do teh communications
22:18:41 Framedragger: tough times
22:18:57 Framedragger: iran's elections in a month, and they're experimenting with DPI filtering right now, etc etc
22:19:16 truff1es: seems govt usually 1 step ahead in matters
22:19:19 Framedragger: *rambles about western companies selling off dpi equipment to authoritarian regimes*
22:22:19 KRS1: suprised DPI isnt everywhere by now
22:22:38 KRS1: the govt is 1 step ahead and the gov contractors are 5 steps ahead
22:22:55 KRS1: look at general dynamics and lockheed martin
22:23:03 KRS1: wish i knew what they do
22:23:47 KRS1: actually theres only one understanding of the osi model its how efficient you get at analyzing the layers and acting on the data..is where the trick is
22:24:43 Scrat: truff1es: that link is full of BS
22:25:18 Scrat: and DPI does jack shit on encrypted channels
22:25:31 Framedragger: they _throttle_ encrypted channels
22:25:36 Framedragger: apparently they have stateful dpi
22:26:05 KRS1: what do you mean by encrypted channel..a given TCP port with known encryption data?
22:26:05 Framedragger: so it can (allegedly) create 'standard traffic profiles'
22:26:14 Scrat: well sure, you can throttle port 443 without any stateful inspection
22:26:28 Framedragger: yeah if it's ssl, they can profile ssl.. if it's just bare tcp, sure it's more difficult true
22:26:38 KRS1: gotta figure, if its being throttled, it might be undergoing decryption
22:26:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00073729 = 1.4746 BTC [-]
22:26:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3434 @ 0.0007373 = 2.5319 BTC [+]
22:26:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00073782 = 3.6891 BTC [+]
22:26:53 KRS1: but..all that can be stored for analyzation later..so why throttle anyway
22:26:56 Framedragger: the idea/speculation is, they are experimenting with things (iran is)
22:26:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2023 @ 0.00073783 = 1.4926 BTC [+]
22:27:15 Framedragger: speculation again (tor-dev etc): they're trying to discourage off-country services
22:27:16 KRS1: so let them..they aint gonna find anything new
22:27:30 Framedragger: get people to use youtube.ir, iran's version of gmail etc
22:27:57 KRS1: good grief
22:28:06 KRS1: this is prolly all about censorship
22:28:13 Scrat: KRS1: further analyzing will only work if they get their hands on the server's private key
22:28:19 Framedragger: it's a more subtle social approach, i get it - why use the slow youtube when i can use iran's fast youtube which also has pirate filmzz
22:28:22 Scrat: actually wrong
22:28:36 Scrat: it will only work if they break the crypto
22:28:36 KRS1: you dont really *need* the key you have to figure it out
22:28:41 KRS1: right
22:28:51 Scrat: most standard web setups use ephemeral DH keys nowadays
22:29:10 Framedragger: but i think they're actually being rather clever here.
22:29:10 Framedragger: oh they're also doing intense dns poisoning
22:29:12 Framedragger: etc
22:29:26 KRS1: so their censorship is more effective
22:29:28 Framedragger: how many people check/bypass certificate errors
22:30:12 Framedragger: also (at least in syria) chopping heads off people posting pro-uprising messages on fb - sure it's about censorship.. to the most intense/grotesque extent
22:30:29 dub: they don't need to break shit if they own teh CAs
22:31:16 KRS1: oh and its not iran necessarily to be grudged against..its Ahmadinejad..iranians are actually pretty cool folks
22:31:27 Framedragger: well yeah, but as i understand it, browsers etc have lists of CA key fingerprints etc
22:31:32 KRS1: Ahmadinejad is an idiot maniac
22:31:47 KRS1: they should have split his wig when he was in NYC
22:31:55 Framedragger: oh of course, by 'country X' i mean 'X state' - true
22:32:04 Scrat: chrome goes as far as pinned certificates for google services
22:32:14 KRS1: browsers have root CA certificates so the entire certificate chain is complete without browser errors
22:32:21 Framedragger: tbh his speech (afaik) has been very much distorted when translated - by nobody's to argue here
22:32:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2579 BTC [+]
22:33:02 KRS1: anyone know their stance on BTC?
22:33:25 samson_: Ahmadinejad was the more moderate of the two when he first won the election, his opponent was much worse than him
22:33:39 KRS1: i think its hilarious how Isreal keeps blowing up their key scientists and engineers
22:33:46 KRS1: that must frustrate the ever living hell out of him
22:33:49 kakobrekla: was this here
22:34:05 KRS1: wonder if he has a twitter feed
22:34:43 KRS1: funny little man..i could knock him out with one punch
22:35:04 dub: $5m to cover legal battle for $75m
22:35:08 KRS1: he must be 150 lbs soaking wet
22:35:18 Framedragger: man i remember reading up on stuxnet.. that shit was fucking intense, targeting specific nuclear turbine models to make them malfunction and very slowly fail, etc
22:35:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.25795 BTC [+]
22:35:44 Scrat: Framedragger: not turbines
22:35:48 Framedragger: s/was/is, there's new shit in town of course
22:35:50 KRS1: yeh heh..that shit was involved at the concept and engineering level one...many say it was us or Isreael
22:35:50 dub: cetrifuges
22:35:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25795 = 2.5159 BTC [+]
22:35:52 Framedragger: not sure of words sorry
22:35:55 Framedragger: indeed
22:35:55 dub: centrifuges
22:35:59 Framedragger: not a native speaker
22:36:10 KRS1: new shit?
22:36:29 Framedragger: hrm don't have any links saved
22:36:31 KRS1: their uranium enrichment process is something like ours was back in the 60's and 70's
22:36:46 dub: it was pretty awesome though, just slow them down a little bit every now and again to cripple the enrichment
22:36:48 Framedragger: well, new modular malware somethingsomething scaryscary
22:36:50 KRS1: but its a very simple process..just weeding out the heavier particles
22:37:02 KRS1: yeh i was like lol at that dub
22:37:38 KRS1: honestly i believe its a matter of time..humans are very crafty.
22:37:44 KRS1: nothing really stops us
22:38:15 dub: well, we will stop us, already have
22:38:17 KRS1: unless its that new mother of all bombs..supposed to drill 1600 feet or so through solid concrete before exploding
22:38:18 truff1es: but our own stupidity and shortsightedness
22:38:23 KRS1: like 38,000 lbs
22:38:24 Framedragger: (re: new - http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/05/flame/ , http://www.kaspersky.com/about/news/virus/2012/Resource_207_Kaspersky_Lab_Research_Proves_that_Stuxnet_and_Flame_Developers_are_Connected (i dislike the word 'proves' though heh))
22:38:32 KRS1: good point truff1es
22:38:54 KRS1: anoyne know any good info on iran and BTC?
22:39:29 KRS1: i suppose the blockchain would tell us if theres any iranian btc..idk
22:39:43 KRS1: maybe im wrong i dont understand the blockchain fully
22:39:50 truff1es: the great thing about our mortality, we wont have to worry about this when its really an issue
22:40:08 KRS1: no?
22:40:22 KRS1: would we just bend over and grab our ankles or something?
22:40:37 truff1es: we'd be dead before most of this is a reality imo
22:40:54 KRS1: i gotta make a few more trips to the strip club i suppose..the one place i can get away from everything and closer to little boobies
22:41:08 dub: wat
22:41:15 truff1es: he likes em small
22:41:28 KRS1: a solid b-cup is nice
22:42:03 KRS1: except i got a dance today from a girl that was a-cup, b-cup at best and i was very happy.
22:42:12 KRS1: she stole my cigs and $60 bucks
22:42:44 KRS1: Had to follow after her after looking for her for 20 minutes to a real dark place full of gold teeth and I at least snatched my smokes from her before leaving.
22:42:54 KRS1: had a "hard" day
22:43:09 truff1es: u stole her dignity..
22:43:45 KRS1: she stole mine
22:43:48 KRS1: maybe i just need a gf
22:44:11 KRS1: except i like em all..not just one
22:44:25 truff1es: standard
22:46:04 KRS1: I dont have enough BTC yet for that Harem and island nation I've been thinking about
22:46:57 truff1es: lol
22:47:10 truff1es: ure gonna get even more heartache
22:47:55 truff1es: estrogen filled house ...
22:48:42 KRS1: rly? I can just dismiss them eh
22:49:06 KRS1: lol truff1es thats how i think too a lot of times "estrogen filled room/house/whatever" lol
22:49:16 KRS1: way too much bitchjuice up in here..im out
22:50:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00073783 = 4.3163 BTC [+]
22:52:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2619 BTC [+]
22:52:41 jcpham: my vagina hurts
22:52:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.265 = 2.53 BTC [+]
22:53:04 ThickAsThieves: give it a massage
22:55:16 truff1es: www.Bitcoin-Alarm.com - You will like it! >>>>why am i getting spam
22:55:57 jcpham: because it is awesome
22:57:02 truff1es: if i get a 3rd one sigh
22:57:37 ThickAsThieves: why are you linking spam in channel?
22:57:45 truff1es: !!
22:58:04 ThickAsThieves: just ognore whomever sent it
22:58:06 ThickAsThieves: i
22:58:39 truff1es: cant ignore them all
22:58:45 truff1es: well one could but..
22:59:04 jcpham: /mode <nick> +R
22:59:19 jcpham: that is supposed to block /query from non nickserv nicks
22:59:35 truff1es: oh i see
22:59:43 truff1es: i was just scanning channels for them..
22:59:57 truff1es: thanks
23:00:05 jcpham: you can leave a lot of them open and /close -m
23:00:09 jcpham: witha few clients
23:00:15 jcpham: to close all queries at once
23:00:23 truff1es: i will have to look into that
23:00:50 jcpham: ijs if you ever find yourself in a situation where your client is flooded
23:01:04 jcpham: /close -m will clean it up
23:01:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3077 @ 0.00073783 = 2.2703 BTC [+]
23:02:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8636 @ 0.00073809 = 6.3741 BTC [+]
23:02:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 587 @ 0.00073864 = 0.4336 BTC [+]
23:02:39 truff1es: i use the basic mirc, i was thinking of going back to ircn
23:03:07 KRS1: does that btc-alarm have a virus in it so it send all u wallet btc to some wallet in nigeria
23:03:15 KRS1: game over
23:03:28 KRS1: this is f'n amazing http://www.psfk.com/2013/05/indictable-oxygen-breathing.html?goback=.gde_3863347_member_238547711
23:06:01 truff1es: pretty cool
23:07:34 KRS1: is market price gonna take a small dip for now
23:07:39 Sinbios: wait
23:08:13 KRS1: im seeing red
23:08:22 KRS1: ok sinbios
23:08:27 ThickAsThieves: i dont think itll dip much lower for a few days
23:08:33 KRS1: bah
23:08:38 ThickAsThieves: it's oscillating
23:08:47 ThickAsThieves: it'll coil for a day or two
23:08:48 KRS1: thats good enough for me
23:09:00 ThickAsThieves: then pop up or down probably
23:09:14 KRS1: loving this vol
23:10:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 400 @ 0.010019 = 4.0076 BTC [-]
23:12:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 99 @ 0.01002 = 0.992 BTC [+]
23:12:20 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
23:12:21 gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 110.90002, Best ask: 114.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.09998, Last trade: 114.00000, 24 hour volume: 136322.49315219, 24 hour low: 97.52000, 24 hour high: 113.90000, 24 hour vwap: 106.58465
23:12:31 ThickAsThieves: big ole market buy
23:13:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01003 = 1.003 BTC [+]
23:16:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01004 = 1.004 BTC [+]
23:17:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01005 BTC [+]
23:18:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 99 @ 0.01005 = 0.995 BTC [+]
23:19:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.35001 BTC [-]
23:19:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [-]
23:21:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01006 = 1.006 BTC [+]
23:22:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 99 @ 0.01007 = 0.9969 BTC [+]
23:23:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.012625 = 0.1136 BTC [+]
23:28:05 thestringpuller: ;;seen mircea_popescu
23:28:05 gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 39 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> ok who's da smartass.
23:28:13 thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
23:28:14 gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 45 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
23:28:24 thestringpuller: ;;seen mod6
23:28:24 gribble: mod6 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <mod6> haha
23:38:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00073399 = 2.7158 BTC [-]
23:38:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4386 @ 0.00072885 = 3.1967 BTC [-]
23:44:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2427 @ 0.00073864 = 1.7927 BTC [+]
23:44:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 673 @ 0.00073893 = 0.4973 BTC [+]
23:46:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [-]