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00:01:12 kakobrekla: and if you order 400gh you get more than 400gh or something

00:01:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-ATF.B2] 3 @ 0.01228 = 0.0368 BTC [+]

00:01:32 kakobrekla: oh yes missed teh last line

00:02:19 pankkake: so instead of a big butt you get two smaller butts

00:02:27 pankkake: a matter of preference it seems

00:02:32 kakobrekla: hey fractal you know what

00:02:55 kakobrekla: if you gonna bitch around about bitbet and such, i reccomend you use the referral link - at least you will get paid for it

00:04:18 fractal: hahaha... thanks for the tip

00:04:31 dexX7: Luke-Jr: ref "betting when one is certain of the outcome" - this is implicitly allowed by the bitbet faq: "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win"

00:07:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-ATF.B2] 6 @ 0.01229 = 0.0737 BTC [+]

00:07:44 fractal: dexX7: thanks for pointing that out.

00:08:10 kakobrekla: you see, we are not all that bad.

00:08:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.0033 BTC [+]

00:08:50 fractal: Luke-Jr: care to respond? all bettors agree that " Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win" before betting... I'd like for your to retract your statement that betting after the outcome has been determined is a scam or ripoff?

00:09:11 fractal: thanks for pointing that out dexX7.

00:09:12 dub: why do you care what crazy has to say?

00:10:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 51 @ 0.003304 = 0.1685 BTC [+]

00:12:03 kakobrekla: YOU ARE INANIMATE FUCKING OBJECT

00:12:14 kakobrekla: gah

00:12:17 kakobrekla: wrong window again

00:12:50 dexX7: fractal: how many coins did you bet anyway?

00:13:18 fractal: dexX7: not much. its irrelevant tho

00:13:26 fractal: wrong bet is still a wrong bet ;)

00:14:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.003304 = 3.304 BTC [+]

00:17:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.00328 BTC [-]

00:18:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120 @ 0.003303 = 0.3964 BTC [+]

00:19:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.00329 BTC [-]

00:20:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 12 @ 0.003301 = 0.0396 BTC [+]

00:20:46 dexX7: https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,551.msg44484.html#msg44484 "Initial Lane Powell Legal Fees/Retainer 505.05050000 BTC"

00:20:50 ozbot: [LTC-GLOBAL] the Litecoin Global Virtual Stock Exchange - Public Beta

00:22:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7856 @ 0.00088565 = 6.9577 BTC [+]

00:23:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003301 = 0.0165 BTC [+]

00:24:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003301 = 0.0066 BTC [+]

00:24:26 kakobrekla: why the 500btc loan?

00:25:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003302 BTC [+]

00:25:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2 @ 0.01900001 = 0.038 BTC [-]

00:25:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.01896 BTC [-]

00:25:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.0189 BTC [-]

00:25:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01871 = 0.1871 BTC [-]

00:26:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144 @ 0.00088576 = 0.1275 BTC [+]

00:26:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003302 BTC [+]

00:26:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3 @ 0.01870002 = 0.0561 BTC [-]

00:26:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9656 @ 0.00088528 = 8.5483 BTC [-]

00:26:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.01860001 BTC [-]

00:26:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.01856 = 0.1856 BTC [-]

00:26:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3 @ 0.0185555 = 0.0557 BTC [-]

00:27:12 ClivePalmer: wtf

00:27:25 ClivePalmer: people just love stealing my ideas

00:27:34 ClivePalmer: oh well

00:27:35 dexX7: i don't know. did he pay the $100k already? if so, it might be cash usd from his own pocket because of the inability to convert that amount of btc

00:27:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003302 = 0.0132 BTC [+]

00:28:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 14 @ 0.00107 = 0.015 BTC [+]

00:28:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 519 @ 0.0010799 = 0.5605 BTC [+]

00:28:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.0010799 BTC [+]

00:29:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 4 @ 0.6598 = 2.6392 BTC [-]

00:34:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00088528 = 0.7082 BTC [-]

00:35:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003302 = 0.0132 BTC [+]

00:38:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003302 = 0.0132 BTC [+]

00:38:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 34 @ 0.002439 = 0.0829 BTC [+]

00:39:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 1 @ 0.0031 BTC [-]

00:39:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 15 @ 0.00329 = 0.0494 BTC [+]

00:39:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003302 = 0.0132 BTC [+]

00:41:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.003841 = 0.3841 BTC [-]

00:41:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 82 @ 0.003839 = 0.3148 BTC [-]

00:41:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 235 @ 0.00382 = 0.8977 BTC [-]

00:41:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 162 @ 0.003803 = 0.6161 BTC [-]

00:41:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 801 @ 0.0038 = 3.0438 BTC [-]

00:42:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003302 = 0.0132 BTC [+]

00:42:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 29 @ 0.09901 = 2.8713 BTC [-]

00:42:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003303 BTC [+]

00:43:21 gecko_gs2: How many hours left

00:43:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 7 @ 0.001079 = 0.0076 BTC [-]

00:43:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003303 = 0.0066 BTC [+]

00:43:53 gecko_gs2: Until we hashin ' 4TH

00:45:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.199 BTC [-]

00:45:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.199 BTC [-]

00:46:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003303 = 0.0066 BTC [+]

00:46:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003304 BTC [+]

00:46:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003309 = 0.0066 BTC [+]

00:46:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.00331 BTC [+]

00:46:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003319 = 0.0066 BTC [+]

00:46:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.00332 BTC [+]

00:46:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003377 = 0.0135 BTC [+]

00:46:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003378 BTC [+]

00:46:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.00338 BTC [+]

00:46:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003389 = 0.0068 BTC [+]

00:46:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.00339 BTC [+]

00:46:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 110 @ 0.003407 = 0.3748 BTC [+]

00:46:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 50 @ 0.003409 = 0.1705 BTC [+]

00:48:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02077 BTC [-]

00:49:43 pankkake: who?

00:49:45 jurov: ;;bc,stats

00:49:48 gribble: Current Blocks: 256521 | Current Difficulty: 8.693301777119441E7 | Next Difficulty At Block: 258047 | Next Difficulty In: 1526 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 20 minutes, and 33 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 103683135.551 | Estimated Percent Change: 19.26784

00:50:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.2 = 4.4 BTC [+]

00:51:15 jurov: https://www.facebook.com/ButterflyLabs/posts/631071773591299

00:51:55 pankkake: lol

00:52:06 jurov: while we argue what is "an unit", scammers do theri thing

00:52:44 pankkake: well, it is an interesting idea… it would be better if it was cross-vendor

00:53:03 pankkake: do they take fees? that would be a very bad incentive

00:53:05 kakobrekla: lmFao jurov

00:53:38 kakobrekla: how low can you go really..

00:54:04 kakobrekla: "we cant deliver so now customers can scam eachother out"

00:54:54 taub: wow

00:54:57 taub: ;;ticker

00:54:57 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.30000, Best ask: 121.98999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68999, Last trade: 121.25000, 24 hour volume: 19109.28167753, 24 hour low: 121.25000, 24 hour high: 133.99999, 24 hour vwap: 126.49107

00:55:02 taub: ;;premium mtgox bitstamp

00:55:05 gribble: mtgox premium over bitstamp is currently 3.1914893617 %.

00:55:18 taub: looks like someone took advantage of the arbitrage opportunities huh

00:55:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.2 = 4.4 BTC [+]

00:56:27 pankkake: to get imaginary dollars?

00:56:37 kakobrekla: they will buy back btc

00:56:39 kakobrekla: once it dips

00:56:41 kakobrekla: to get out.

00:56:42 thestringpuller: hey kakobrekla since assbot has been open sourced

00:56:51 thestringpuller: now all the assbot data is available

00:57:03 thestringpuller: since I paid you I should be allowed to monetize that ;)

00:57:05 kakobrekla: it has been open sourced?

00:57:15 thestringpuller: the log

00:57:24 thestringpuller: master log on bitcoin-assets

00:57:31 kakobrekla: what is your ip?

00:57:39 thestringpuller: are you going to block me?

00:57:43 thestringpuller: on the log?

00:57:44 thestringpuller: :(

00:57:55 kakobrekla: ;)

00:58:08 thestringpuller: i give you cut if i makes monies

00:58:16 dexX7: what's the plan?

00:58:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 3 @ 0.00395 = 0.0119 BTC [+]

00:58:22 thestringpuller: secret :P

00:58:52 dexX7: ! :((

00:59:13 kakobrekla: yeah data is free but the delivery protocol isnt necessarily

00:59:29 thestringpuller: you mean log.bitcoin-assets.com

00:59:30 thestringpuller: why not?

00:59:46 thestringpuller: I should be able to download all the logs, and grep out assbot :P

00:59:54 kakobrekla: i ment socket.

00:59:56 thestringpuller: then sell the data

01:01:15 kakobrekla: feel free to use log data as you plesae

01:01:26 kakobrekla: its nice if you mention the source

01:01:30 kakobrekla: and thats about it.

01:01:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00104 = 0.0104 BTC [-]

01:02:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1600 @ 0.00103 = 1.648 BTC [-]

01:02:34 dexX7: there is a forced delay between each trade, right?

01:02:48 kakobrekla: where?

01:02:54 kakobrekla: on irc?

01:02:56 dexX7: yes

01:02:56 kakobrekla: 1 second

01:03:00 kakobrekla: on socket 0 seconds

01:03:14 jurov: thestringpuller: if you really cant pay for socket, just use rss for mpex

01:03:49 dexX7: that socket, is it only used for assbot and some private users?

01:03:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003948 = 0.0395 BTC [-]

01:03:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003949 = 0.0395 BTC [+]

01:03:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 52 @ 0.003979 = 0.2069 BTC [+]

01:03:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 52 @ 0.00398 = 0.207 BTC [+]

01:03:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 428 @ 0.004046 = 1.7317 BTC [+]

01:03:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 428 @ 0.004047 = 1.7321 BTC [+]

01:03:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004055 BTC [+]

01:03:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004056 BTC [+]

01:03:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 239 @ 0.004062 = 0.9708 BTC [+]

01:04:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 114 @ 0.004063 = 0.4632 BTC [+]

01:04:21 kakobrekla: http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/

01:04:26 ozbot: MPEX Socket | #bitcoin-assets

01:04:43 kakobrekla: its easy to add any other exchange to that its just there has been no real interest so far

01:04:55 kakobrekla: apart from mpex

01:05:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02078 = 0.2286 BTC [+]

01:06:19 dexX7: true, but do you really want that?

01:06:34 kakobrekla: do i want what?

01:06:53 kakobrekla: add other exhcanges?

01:06:57 dexX7: well, offering a non-delayed data stream for all exchanges :)

01:07:09 kakobrekla: why not, i just open another socket chan

01:07:20 kakobrekla: theres already two chans

01:07:27 kakobrekla: one for mpex stock and one for mpex options

01:07:34 kakobrekla: [not documented]

01:07:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003808 = 0.0381 BTC [-]

01:08:04 kakobrekla: why not dexX7?!

01:08:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 21 @ 0.004062 = 0.0853 BTC [+]

01:09:03 thestringpuller: kakobrekla is a slumlord

01:09:05 thestringpuller: in bitcoin world

01:09:11 thestringpuller: >:(

01:09:32 kakobrekla: what?

01:09:38 kakobrekla: dafuq did i do?

01:10:33 thestringpuller: how much dat socket cost?

01:10:36 thestringpuller: 30 bitcoin a month?

01:10:52 kakobrekla: have you missed this

01:10:52 kakobrekla: 03:01.18 ( kakobrekla ) feel free to use log data as you plesae

01:10:52 kakobrekla: 03:01.29 ( kakobrekla ) its nice if you mention the source

01:10:52 kakobrekla: 03:01.33 ( kakobrekla ) and thats about it.

01:10:57 kakobrekla: socket is 1btc per year.

01:11:22 dexX7: realtime data might offer a significant trading advatance, that's why i asked

01:11:31 kakobrekla: that is why its 1 btc per year

01:12:11 dexX7: are there many customers?

01:12:15 kakobrekla: a few

01:12:47 thestringpuller: dats why he slumlord >:(

01:12:49 kakobrekla: if you cant get back the 1btc you pay for socket by using the socket then the socket is not for you

01:12:51 thestringpuller: in 5 year he'll charge

01:12:54 thestringpuller: 10 btc a year

01:13:32 kakobrekla: whatever.

01:13:46 jurov: mpex pricing model :D

01:14:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 3 @ 0.0018 = 0.0054 BTC [+]

01:18:07 benkay_: dat bfl facebook notice

01:18:20 benkay_: "Buyer's"

01:18:40 benkay_: hurp dorp

01:23:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 1.176 = 11.76 BTC [+]

01:25:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 2 @ 0.01329 = 0.0266 BTC [-]

01:32:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02079 BTC [+]

01:33:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0208 BTC [+]

01:34:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.02083 = 1.354 BTC [+]

01:36:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 70 @ 0.00341 = 0.2387 BTC [+]

01:37:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.2 BTC [+]

01:37:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 94 @ 0.003411 = 0.3206 BTC [+]

01:37:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 36 @ 0.003413 = 0.1229 BTC [+]

01:41:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.02083 = 0.2291 BTC [+]

01:42:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.02084 = 1.042 BTC [+]

01:45:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02084 = 0.1042 BTC [+]

01:46:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 240 @ 0.003419 = 0.8206 BTC [+]

01:46:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02084 = 0.2084 BTC [+]

01:47:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120 @ 0.00342 = 0.4104 BTC [+]

01:49:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 40 @ 0.003485 = 0.1394 BTC [+]

01:50:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003485 = 0.3485 BTC [+]

01:55:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.02084 = 0.6252 BTC [+]

02:02:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.00554 = 0.0554 BTC [+]

02:03:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 2.2 = 70.4 BTC [+]

02:07:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00088528 = 5.1789 BTC [-]

02:11:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 79 @ 0.02084 = 1.6464 BTC [+]

02:11:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02086 = 0.2086 BTC [+]

02:14:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0209 = 2.09 BTC [+]

02:14:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.29 BTC [+]

02:15:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.29 = 4.58 BTC [+]

02:18:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0209 BTC [+]

02:20:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0209 = 0.1881 BTC [+]

02:25:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0209 = 2.09 BTC [+]

02:26:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0209 = 2.09 BTC [+]

02:28:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17210 @ 0.00088528 = 15.2357 BTC [-]

02:28:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2240 @ 0.00088512 = 1.9827 BTC [-]

02:31:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.0209 = 1.672 BTC [+]

02:32:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 2 = 20 BTC [-]

02:32:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.0209 = 1.672 BTC [+]

02:33:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 5 @ 0.0125 = 0.0625 BTC [-]

02:35:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0208 BTC [-]

02:35:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.02079 = 0.395 BTC [-]

02:35:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0205 = 0.041 BTC [-]

02:35:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0204 = 0.102 BTC [-]

02:35:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02021 = 0.1011 BTC [-]

02:35:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0202 = 0.5656 BTC [-]

02:35:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.02003 = 1.9029 BTC [-]

02:35:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 461 @ 0.02002 = 9.2292 BTC [-]

02:35:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.02002 = 1.001 BTC [-]

02:35:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02 = 0.08 BTC [-]

02:36:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 31 @ 0.02089 = 0.6476 BTC [+]

02:38:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02089 BTC [+]

02:40:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4 @ 0.0001921 = 0.0008 BTC [-]

02:49:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 7 @ 0.0124 = 0.0868 BTC [-]

02:49:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 8 @ 0.012 = 0.096 BTC [-]

02:49:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.0111 = 0.555 BTC [-]

02:49:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.01105002 = 0.221 BTC [-]

02:49:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 134 @ 0.01105001 = 1.4807 BTC [-]

02:49:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 17 @ 0.01105 = 0.1879 BTC [-]

02:49:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 2 @ 0.0106 = 0.0212 BTC [-]

02:49:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 4 @ 0.0101 = 0.0404 BTC [-]

02:49:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-]

02:50:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [-]

02:51:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 4 @ 0.0096 = 0.0384 BTC [-]

02:51:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 4 @ 0.0091 = 0.0364 BTC [-]

02:51:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 395 @ 0.003 = 1.185 BTC [-]

02:51:54 ClivePalmer: nice tanking

02:52:19 ThickAsThieves: what was ipo price?

02:53:11 Duffer1: .01 i believe

02:54:26 Duffer1: ya .01

02:55:30 ThickAsThieves: ouch

02:58:31 pankkake: the guy filled all bids but one (well, partially)

02:58:33 pankkake: weird

02:59:22 ClivePalmer: i'm scared....again

03:02:06 pankkake: only about 3 BTC volume?

03:05:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.01329 BTC [+]

03:14:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.0063864 BTC [-]

03:23:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 12 @ 0.0051 = 0.0612 BTC [-]

03:29:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02012 = 0.0604 BTC [-]

03:33:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2 @ 0.01999 = 0.04 BTC [+]

03:37:48 dexX7: http://i.imgur.com/XbnKclR.png

03:38:12 Duffer1: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1lvqlc/now_you_can_sell_your_bfl_preorder_or_buy_a_spot/

03:38:15 ozbot: Now you can sell your BFL pre-order, or buy a spot in line. : Bitcoin

03:38:18 Duffer1: lolol

03:50:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 3 @ 0.019 = 0.057 BTC [-]

03:52:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003343 BTC [-]

03:52:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003342 = 0.0167 BTC [-]

03:52:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 30 @ 0.003325 = 0.0998 BTC [-]

03:52:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003324 = 0.01 BTC [-]

03:53:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]

03:53:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 99 @ 0.004 = 0.396 BTC [-]

03:57:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 384 @ 0.00088512 = 0.3399 BTC [-]

03:57:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00088322 = 4.0187 BTC [-]

03:57:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2558 @ 0.00088135 = 2.2545 BTC [-]

03:58:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 8 @ 0.01999 = 0.1599 BTC [+]

04:02:40 mircea_popescu: jurov "an unit" sorta has this "an hero" flavour to it. maybe it becomes a meme

04:06:20 mircea_popescu: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.cryptography.randombit/4689

04:06:24 ozbot: List for general discussion of cryptography, particularly focused on technical matters

04:06:26 mircea_popescu: re the entire linux rng discussion

04:10:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4055 @ 0.00088642 = 3.5944 BTC [+]

04:10:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00088653 = 1.1082 BTC [+]

04:11:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2645 @ 0.00088656 = 2.345 BTC [+]

04:12:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 24 @ 0.003443 = 0.0826 BTC [+]

04:12:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 7 @ 0.004061 = 0.0284 BTC [+]

04:16:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 15 @ 0.002439 = 0.0366 BTC [+]

04:20:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.02069 = 1.3449 BTC [+]

04:20:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02069 = 0.2069 BTC [+]

04:22:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 8 @ 0.002439 = 0.0195 BTC [+]

04:24:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 9 @ 0.02 = 0.18 BTC [+]

04:26:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003333 = 0.0167 BTC [-]

04:26:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 104 @ 0.003333 = 0.3466 BTC [-]

04:26:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 117 @ 0.003332 = 0.3898 BTC [-]

04:28:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2901 @ 0.004 = 11.604 BTC [-]

04:34:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003329 = 0.01 BTC [-]

04:35:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003302 BTC [-]

04:36:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.001079 BTC [+]

04:38:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 194 @ 0.003889 = 0.7545 BTC [-]

04:38:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 28 @ 0.003886 = 0.1088 BTC [-]

04:38:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003885 = 0.0389 BTC [-]

04:38:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 105 @ 0.003882 = 0.4076 BTC [-]

04:38:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.003841 = 0.096 BTC [-]

04:38:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.00384 = 0.384 BTC [-]

04:38:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 423 @ 0.003804 = 1.6091 BTC [-]

04:38:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 199 @ 0.0038 = 0.7562 BTC [-]

04:38:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1216 @ 0.0038 = 4.6208 BTC [-]

04:44:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.28 BTC [-]

04:46:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003891 = 0.0467 BTC [+]

04:46:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.00389 = 0.1945 BTC [-]

04:48:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]

04:48:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.00666666 BTC [-]

04:50:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.003813 = 0.0839 BTC [-]

04:50:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.012 BTC [+]

04:51:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 70 @ 0.003812 = 0.2668 BTC [-]

04:52:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.00666666 BTC [-]

04:53:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02033 = 0.2033 BTC [+]

05:00:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02063 = 0.1238 BTC [-]

05:00:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02064 = 0.2064 BTC [+]

05:01:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 37 @ 0.0207 = 0.7659 BTC [+]

05:09:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.0207 = 0.5796 BTC [+]

05:09:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0207 = 0.1863 BTC [+]

05:11:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1568 @ 0.00088553 = 1.3885 BTC [-]

05:14:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.134 = 0.268 BTC [-]

05:17:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.0039 = 0.39 BTC [+]

05:19:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0209 = 0.0418 BTC [+]

05:23:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 10 @ 0.00342999 = 0.0343 BTC [+]

05:23:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 5 @ 0.00359 = 0.018 BTC [+]

05:23:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDSTM] 369 @ 0.0036 = 1.3284 BTC [+]

05:32:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.182 = 4.364 BTC [-]

05:33:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.0999 BTC [+]

05:33:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.0999 BTC [+]

05:35:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 2.1 BTC [+]

05:35:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.182 BTC [-]

05:40:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 7 @ 0.004 = 0.028 BTC [+]

05:41:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00088656 = 9.1316 BTC [+]

05:42:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.1973 = 0.9865 BTC [-]

05:49:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1356 = 0.5424 BTC [+]

05:49:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.182 BTC [-]

05:50:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.181 BTC [-]

06:01:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00088656 = 3.5462 BTC [+]

06:09:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 5 @ 0.001701 = 0.0085 BTC [-]

06:09:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 25 @ 0.0017 = 0.0425 BTC [-]

06:09:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 60 @ 0.001653 = 0.0992 BTC [-]

06:09:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.001652 = 1.652 BTC [-]

06:09:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.001645 = 1.645 BTC [-]

06:09:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 850 @ 0.001645 = 1.3983 BTC [-]

06:09:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 500 @ 0.001641 = 0.8205 BTC [-]

06:09:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 5000 @ 0.00164 = 8.2 BTC [-]

06:09:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1000 @ 0.001636 = 1.636 BTC [-]

06:09:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 666 @ 0.001631 = 1.0862 BTC [-]

06:09:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 100 @ 0.001623 = 0.1623 BTC [-]

06:09:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 1 @ 0.001621 BTC [-]

06:09:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 9793 @ 0.001618 = 15.8451 BTC [-]

06:09:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003901 = 0.039 BTC [-]

06:09:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0039 = 0.039 BTC [-]

06:09:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 33 @ 0.003845 = 0.1269 BTC [-]

06:10:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 19 @ 0.003805 = 0.0723 BTC [-]

06:10:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 36 @ 0.003804 = 0.1369 BTC [-]

06:12:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.259 BTC [+]

06:12:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.26 BTC [+]

06:12:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.284 BTC [+]

06:12:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.285 BTC [+]

06:12:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.285 BTC [+]

06:12:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.287 = 4.574 BTC [+]

06:12:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 2.288 = 11.44 BTC [+]

06:13:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11012 @ 0.00088656 = 9.7628 BTC [+]

06:15:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.00381 = 0.0381 BTC [+]

06:15:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 20 @ 0.003809 = 0.0762 BTC [-]

06:15:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 15 @ 0.003808 = 0.0571 BTC [-]

06:17:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0209 = 0.6061 BTC [+]

06:17:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.021 = 0.84 BTC [+]

06:17:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.021 BTC [+]

06:17:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0212 BTC [+]

06:17:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+]

06:17:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.0214 = 0.6848 BTC [+]

06:17:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+]

06:18:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0214 BTC [+]

06:23:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1732 @ 0.00088553 = 1.5337 BTC [-]

06:32:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003994 = 0.0399 BTC [+]

06:32:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003995 = 0.04 BTC [+]

06:44:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 175 @ 0.00104999 = 0.1837 BTC [-]

06:48:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 28 @ 0.00104999 = 0.0294 BTC [-]

06:48:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 146 @ 0.0214 = 3.1244 BTC [+]

06:48:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.0215 = 0.817 BTC [+]

06:48:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00104999 BTC [-]

06:50:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]

06:51:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]

06:53:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 70 @ 0.004011 = 0.2808 BTC [+]

06:56:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.0215 = 0.344 BTC [+]

06:56:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.004011 = 0.0521 BTC [+]

07:04:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1305 BTC [-]

07:08:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 41 @ 0.002455 = 0.1007 BTC [+]

07:08:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 149 @ 0.002469 = 0.3679 BTC [+]

07:11:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 7 @ 0.0002745 = 0.0019 BTC [-]

07:12:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003916 = 0.0392 BTC [-]

07:12:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003915 = 0.0392 BTC [-]

07:12:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 151 @ 0.003864 = 0.5835 BTC [-]

07:12:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 18 @ 0.003861 = 0.0695 BTC [-]

07:12:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 25 @ 0.003856 = 0.0964 BTC [-]

07:12:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 100 @ 0.003855 = 0.3855 BTC [-]

07:12:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 396 @ 0.003801 = 1.5052 BTC [-]

07:12:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 84 @ 0.0038 = 0.3192 BTC [-]

07:12:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 205 @ 0.0038 = 0.779 BTC [-]

07:12:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 750 @ 0.003329 = 2.4968 BTC [+]

07:12:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1125 @ 0.00333 = 3.7463 BTC [+]

07:13:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 1 @ 0.000204 BTC [-]

07:13:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 6 @ 0.0002031 = 0.0012 BTC [-]

07:14:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]

07:16:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 4 @ 0.0999 = 0.3996 BTC [+]

07:18:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.0211 = 0.2532 BTC [-]

07:42:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004001 = 0.04 BTC [+]

07:42:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004001 = 0.04 BTC [+]

07:42:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004002 = 0.04 BTC [+]

07:42:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 437 @ 0.004019 = 1.7563 BTC [+]

07:42:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 437 @ 0.004054 = 1.7716 BTC [+]

07:42:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 96 @ 0.004058 = 0.3896 BTC [+]

07:46:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [FIMB] 181 @ 0.0109 = 1.9729 BTC [+]

07:53:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8668 @ 0.00088433 = 7.6654 BTC [-]

07:53:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 282 @ 0.00088656 = 0.25 BTC [+]

08:05:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 959 @ 0.0001922 = 0.1843 BTC [+]

08:07:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 964 @ 0.0001912 = 0.1843 BTC [-]

08:07:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4 @ 0.00019101 = 0.0008 BTC [-]

08:07:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2032 @ 0.00019101 = 0.3881 BTC [-]

08:08:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 62 @ 0.00019101 = 0.0118 BTC [-]

08:08:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.02033299 = 0.5083 BTC [+]

08:09:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.02033299 BTC [+]

08:12:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 813 @ 0.00088656 = 0.7208 BTC [+]

08:12:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.0008866 = 3.1918 BTC [+]

08:12:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00088675 = 5.1875 BTC [+]

08:12:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1937 @ 0.00088687 = 1.7179 BTC [+]

08:29:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @ 0.0107 = 0.321 BTC [-]

08:30:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003885 = 0.0078 BTC [-]

08:34:32 virtuals: ;;ticker

08:34:33 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 126.02492, Best ask: 126.12053, Bid-ask spread: 0.09561, Last trade: 126.02491, 24 hour volume: 21870.65840280, 24 hour low: 121.25000, 24 hour high: 131.87000, 24 hour vwap: 125.56323

08:41:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003331 BTC [+]

08:41:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 220 @ 0.003431 = 0.7548 BTC [+]

08:41:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003432 = 0.0172 BTC [+]

08:41:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.003433 = 0.3433 BTC [+]

08:41:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003434 = 0.0172 BTC [+]

08:42:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 14 @ 0.003435 = 0.0481 BTC [+]

08:42:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004053 BTC [+]

08:44:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 52 @ 0.09901 = 5.1485 BTC [-]

08:44:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.258 BTC [-]

08:44:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.259 BTC [+]

08:45:27 virtuals: ;;nethash

08:45:28 gribble: 761402.128815

08:45:38 virtuals: .d

08:45:42 ozbot: 86933017.77119 | Next Diff in 1480 blocks | Estimated Change: 16.8855% in 8d 12h 57m 12s

08:47:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1265 BTC [-]

08:47:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.259 BTC [+]

08:48:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 71 @ 0.02149 = 1.5258 BTC [+]

08:48:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02149 = 0.2149 BTC [+]

08:48:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.1235 = 0.3705 BTC [-]

08:48:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0216 BTC [+]

08:48:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.02163 = 0.3893 BTC [+]

08:49:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1221 = 0.4884 BTC [-]

08:49:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.122 = 0.244 BTC [-]

08:50:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00104999 = 0.0105 BTC [-]

08:50:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 49 @ 0.003887 = 0.1905 BTC [-]

08:51:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003886 BTC [-]

08:51:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 32 @ 0.003333 = 0.1067 BTC [-]

08:52:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003332 = 0.0167 BTC [-]

08:53:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 13 @ 0.00333 = 0.0433 BTC [-]

08:54:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.002469 = 0.0074 BTC [+]

09:01:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 95 @ 0.001796 = 0.1706 BTC [+]

09:03:27 benkay: ;;tslb

09:03:29 gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 21 seconds

09:03:52 benkay: how does one query for the last diff change?

09:05:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 25 @ 0.003331 = 0.0833 BTC [+]

09:06:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003892 = 0.0078 BTC [+]

09:07:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 8 @ 0.003892 = 0.0311 BTC [+]

09:07:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 12 @ 0.01211 = 0.1453 BTC [-]

09:08:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.003883 = 0.0505 BTC [-]

09:08:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003331 BTC [+]

09:09:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003883 = 0.0078 BTC [-]

09:09:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.002469 = 0.0099 BTC [+]

09:09:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.00248 = 0.0149 BTC [+]

09:25:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 5 @ 0.00248 = 0.0124 BTC [+]

09:27:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.02701 = 0.081 BTC [+]

09:28:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.226 BTC [-]

09:28:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.226 BTC [-]

09:28:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 2.212 = 8.848 BTC [-]

09:28:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.21 BTC [-]

09:29:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 3 @ 0.005003 = 0.015 BTC [-]

09:34:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004036 BTC [+]

09:35:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003396 BTC [+]

09:36:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004036 BTC [+]

09:37:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.004036 BTC [+]

09:38:17 b0n1: ;;lastseen davout

09:38:18 gribble: Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command.

09:38:23 b0n1: ;;seen davout

09:38:23 gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <davout> hi all

09:38:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00088698 = 4.9671 BTC [+]

09:39:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.181 BTC [-]

09:42:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 6 @ 0.003394 = 0.0204 BTC [-]

09:44:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003361 BTC [-]

09:44:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 40 @ 0.00336 = 0.1344 BTC [-]

09:44:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003358 = 0.0134 BTC [-]

09:44:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 112 @ 0.00333 = 0.373 BTC [-]

09:45:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 27 @ 0.003302 = 0.0892 BTC [-]

09:45:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 574 @ 0.003289 = 1.8879 BTC [-]

09:45:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 143 @ 0.003284 = 0.4696 BTC [-]

09:50:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.202 BTC [+]

09:54:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00088698 = 1.4635 BTC [+]

09:54:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00088715 = 7.4521 BTC [+]

09:54:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00088722 = 4.1256 BTC [+]

10:00:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02112 BTC [-]

10:00:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02111 = 0.2111 BTC [-]

10:00:29 dub: ;;prevdiff

10:00:31 gribble: 65750060.1491

10:07:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02137 BTC [+]

10:14:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003384 = 0.0068 BTC [+]

10:14:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.002407 = 0.0241 BTC [-]

10:19:21 dub: ;;prevdiffchange

10:19:32 gribble: 32.2174

10:30:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [KENILWORTH] 11 @ 0.001796 = 0.0198 BTC [+]

10:38:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.02033299 = 0.5083 BTC [+]

10:39:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 110 @ 0.00104999 = 0.1155 BTC [-]

10:46:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 1 @ 0.000257 BTC [+]

10:47:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]

10:49:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]

10:51:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]

10:52:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4350 @ 0.00088553 = 3.8521 BTC [-]

10:53:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.004011 = 0.0401 BTC [-]

10:55:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 60 @ 0.004011 = 0.2407 BTC [-]

10:57:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 287 @ 0.01211 = 3.4756 BTC [-]

11:07:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 32 @ 0.1975 = 6.32 BTC [+]

11:07:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 36 @ 0.1974 = 7.1064 BTC [-]

11:07:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 9 @ 0.197 = 1.773 BTC [-]

11:07:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.197 = 1.97 BTC [-]

11:08:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02139 = 0.1283 BTC [+]

11:21:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.000366 BTC [-]

11:21:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0003651 BTC [-]

11:21:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.000343 = 0.0048 BTC [-]

11:21:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 76 @ 0.000343 = 0.0261 BTC [-]

11:21:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.000332 = 0.0007 BTC [-]

11:25:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 42 @ 0.01212 = 0.509 BTC [+]

11:32:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 14 @ 0.003376 = 0.0473 BTC [-]

11:32:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 2 @ 0.003377 = 0.0068 BTC [+]

11:32:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003379 = 0.0169 BTC [+]

11:32:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8 @ 0.003401 = 0.0272 BTC [+]

11:32:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 4 @ 0.003402 = 0.0136 BTC [+]

11:32:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 322 @ 0.003407 = 1.0971 BTC [+]

11:32:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 161 @ 0.003431 = 0.5524 BTC [+]

11:32:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 124 @ 0.003434 = 0.4258 BTC [+]

11:42:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00088387 = 2.6074 BTC [-]

11:46:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 6 @ 0.002489 = 0.0149 BTC [+]

11:55:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003889 = 0.0078 BTC [-]

11:55:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 5 @ 0.003899 = 0.0195 BTC [+]

11:55:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0039 = 0.039 BTC [+]

11:59:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 1.00978800 BTC to 2`019`576 shares, 50 satoshi per share

12:01:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.185 BTC [-]

12:01:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.184 BTC [-]

12:01:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 2.183 = 6.549 BTC [-]

12:01:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.182 = 4.364 BTC [-]

12:01:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.0039 = 0.0078 BTC [+]

12:03:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02005 = 0.2005 BTC [-]

12:03:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.02001001 = 0.6003 BTC [-]

12:03:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.02000001 = 0.42 BTC [-]

12:03:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 439 @ 0.02 = 8.78 BTC [-]

12:03:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.0039 = 0.039 BTC [+]

12:04:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02082 = 0.2082 BTC [-]

12:04:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.0208 = 0.52 BTC [-]

12:04:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02072 BTC [-]

12:04:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02071 BTC [-]

12:04:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.0207 = 0.1449 BTC [-]

12:04:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.02021 = 0.1213 BTC [-]

12:04:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0202 = 0.606 BTC [-]

12:04:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0202 BTC [-]

12:05:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 52 @ 0.0039 = 0.2028 BTC [+]

12:07:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.0039 = 0.0468 BTC [+]

12:08:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 963 @ 0.0001921 = 0.185 BTC [+]

12:08:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1735 @ 0.0001922 = 0.3335 BTC [+]

12:08:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1 @ 0.00019259 BTC [+]

12:08:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 2750 @ 0.0002 = 0.55 BTC [-]

12:09:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 7 @ 0.0039 = 0.0273 BTC [+]

12:10:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.02019 = 0.0606 BTC [-]

12:11:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.02016 = 1.0685 BTC [-]

12:11:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 345 @ 0.02015 = 6.9518 BTC [-]

12:11:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0201 = 0.201 BTC [-]

12:11:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02003 = 0.2003 BTC [-]

12:11:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02001 = 2.001 BTC [-]

12:11:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02 BTC [-]

12:11:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.003888 = 0.0156 BTC [-]

12:11:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003888 = 0.0078 BTC [-]

12:12:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0201 = 0.0402 BTC [+]

12:13:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003875 BTC [-]

12:15:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003865 = 0.0464 BTC [-]

12:15:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 36 @ 0.003866 = 0.1392 BTC [+]

12:17:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.003868 = 0.0232 BTC [+]

12:22:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.003863 = 0.0232 BTC [-]

12:30:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2 @ 0.02 = 0.04 BTC [-]

12:30:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4127 @ 0.00088555 = 3.6547 BTC [+]

12:30:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.01999 = 1.0595 BTC [-]

12:38:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003327 = 0.0333 BTC [-]

12:38:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003324 = 0.0166 BTC [-]

12:38:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003293 BTC [-]

12:38:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 527 @ 0.003293 = 1.7354 BTC [-]

12:44:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 51 @ 0.0002147 = 0.0109 BTC [+]

12:50:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.02025 BTC [+]

12:54:42 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252531.msg3099262#msg3099262

12:54:47 ozbot: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread

12:55:08 mircea_popescu: benkay this trend to make the browser central to computing is retarded.

12:55:34 mircea_popescu: there's no need for phones that are "entertainment centers" nor for browsers that are abstractions of the os.

12:56:48 mircea_popescu: pankkake lol did kleeck ignore you after that ?

12:57:08 pankkake: wasn't my post

12:57:17 mircea_popescu: ;;nethash

12:57:18 gribble: 754010.73283

12:57:57 mircea_popescu: only 3x what they predicted lolz.

12:58:37 mircea_popescu: "Why should the owners of two different exchanges spend their time and money to develop a protocol for transferring shares? How would it benefit either of them?"

12:58:44 mircea_popescu: LorenzoMoney you're a retard aren't you.

12:59:29 mircea_popescu: i need to stop following these links. i have people insulating me from the idiocy for a reason.

13:05:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5776 @ 0.00088357 = 5.1035 BTC [-]

13:06:59 ClivePalmer: i only trust Lorenzo Sanchez

13:07:52 BigBitz: +1 mircea_popescu

13:08:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 1.028 = 2.056 BTC [-]

13:08:57 mircea_popescu: also in case anyone's missed it, fraudsters coments are like the shit these days : http://fraudsters.com/2013/anonimity-not-for-the-poor/#comment-94888

13:09:10 mircea_popescu: apparently linus t was complicit in weakening linux rng implementation.

13:11:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 3 @ 0.003867 = 0.0116 BTC [+]

13:13:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003867 = 0.0387 BTC [+]

13:14:43 pankkake: I've been wanting an http://www.entropykey.co.uk/ for a while

13:14:49 pankkake: "Please note that there is a very long waiting period for Entropy Keys at the moment." oh well…

13:15:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02126 = 0.0425 BTC [+]

13:15:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02129 BTC [+]

13:15:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003357 = 0.0336 BTC [+]

13:15:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003358 = 0.0672 BTC [+]

13:15:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02129 = 0.0426 BTC [+]

13:15:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003358 = 0.0168 BTC [+]

13:15:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.003365 = 0.0337 BTC [+]

13:15:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 212 @ 0.003384 = 0.7174 BTC [+]

13:15:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 424 @ 0.003386 = 1.4357 BTC [+]

13:15:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1345 @ 0.003392 = 4.5622 BTC [+]

13:15:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3000 @ 0.003393 = 10.179 BTC [+]

13:16:16 pankkake: https://code.google.com/p/csrng/ is interesting too

13:16:19 ozbot: csrng -

13:16:19 mircea_popescu: pankkake you know one of the bright minds that made asics or wanted to make asics but didn't get to it in time should make a stick like that.

13:17:02 mircea_popescu: "The Entropy Key contains two high-quality noise generators, and an ARM Cortex CPU that actively measures, checks and confirms all generated random numbers"

13:17:10 mircea_popescu: honestly i doubt these know wtf they're talking about.

13:17:17 mircea_popescu: "two" ? which two ? what do they do ?

13:17:26 mircea_popescu: how's an arm chip "check" random numbers ?

13:17:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003868 = 0.0387 BTC [+]

13:18:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2654 @ 0.00088381 = 2.3456 BTC [+]

13:18:36 pankkake: I tried a thing to make audio an source of entropy, but couldn't get it to work

13:18:59 mircea_popescu: why not ?

13:19:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003868 = 0.0387 BTC [+]

13:19:44 pankkake: I don't remember. maybe it was really old and wanted OSS which I had disabled

13:20:05 pankkake: http://www.entropykey.co.uk/tech/ and the pdf gives somewhat of an explanation, not that I can validate it

13:20:09 ozbot: Simtec Electronics Entropy Key: USB True Random Number Generator

13:22:26 mircea_popescu: avalanche noise

13:23:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 310 @ 0.003402 = 1.0546 BTC [+]

13:23:51 mircea_popescu: The streams are also exclusive-ORed together and that stream's entropy is estimated in the same manner. If the raw streams appear to have severely reduced entropy then it indicates a fault in that generator, if the third stream has low entropy then it indicates that the generators have correlated and are not independently gathering entropy.

13:23:55 mircea_popescu: that's a good test at least.

13:24:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 30 @ 0.003406 = 0.1022 BTC [+]

13:25:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003865 = 0.0464 BTC [-]

13:27:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.008205 = 0.0821 BTC [+]

13:29:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 182 @ 0.003406 = 0.6199 BTC [+]

13:29:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.003869 = 0.0503 BTC [+]

13:30:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 179 @ 0.003406 = 0.6097 BTC [+]

13:31:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.18 BTC [-]

13:31:40 mircea_popescu: "Shortly before the first release, I read an article about the ongoing

13:31:40 mircea_popescu: Bitkeeper debacle that described Larry McVoy as mercurial (in the sense

13:31:40 mircea_popescu: of 'fickle'). Given the multiple meanings, the convenient abbreviation,

13:31:40 mircea_popescu: and the good fit with my pre-existing naming scheme (see my email

13:31:40 mircea_popescu: address), it clicked instantly. Mercurial is thus named in Larry's

13:31:40 mircea_popescu: honor. I do not know if the same is true of Git."

13:31:42 mircea_popescu: lol

13:32:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003406 BTC [+]

13:34:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2324 @ 0.00088357 = 2.0534 BTC [-]

13:34:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00088315 = 3.7092 BTC [-]

13:34:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2369 @ 0.00088186 = 2.0891 BTC [-]

13:39:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+]

13:53:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 3 @ 0.00104999 = 0.0031 BTC [-]

13:54:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.1231 = 0.4924 BTC [+]

13:54:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 23 @ 0.122 = 2.806 BTC [-]

13:54:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [-]

13:57:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 23 @ 0.00247 = 0.0568 BTC [-]

13:57:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.01249 BTC [+]

13:59:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.0212 = 0.636 BTC [-]

14:03:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [-]

14:04:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.00247 = 0.0049 BTC [-]

14:12:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 42 @ 0.09903 = 4.1593 BTC [+]

14:13:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 25 @ 0.09902 = 2.4755 BTC [-]

14:13:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 20 @ 0.099 = 1.98 BTC [-]

14:13:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1002 BTC [-]

14:13:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]

14:13:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]

14:13:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-]

14:13:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.1 = 2.5 BTC [-]

14:13:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.09384 BTC [-]

14:15:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 8 @ 0.0013 = 0.0104 BTC [-]

14:16:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.0013 = 0.0026 BTC [-]

14:21:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088662 = 6.4723 BTC [+]

14:27:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.2 BTC [+]

14:29:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2 @ 0.00104579 = 0.0021 BTC [-]

14:30:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 10 @ 0.00333 = 0.0333 BTC [-]

14:31:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003863 = 0.0077 BTC [-]

14:31:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]

14:35:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.21 BTC [+]

14:35:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.21 BTC [+]

14:36:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 8 @ 0.008205 = 0.0656 BTC [+]

14:42:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.021 = 0.483 BTC [-]

14:45:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.232 BTC [+]

14:48:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.021 = 0.588 BTC [-]

14:54:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.096 = 0.672 BTC [-]

14:55:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.203 BTC [-]

15:02:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.00247 = 0.0074 BTC [-]

15:03:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 35 @ 0.00103102 = 0.0361 BTC [-]

15:03:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 34 @ 0.00103101 = 0.0351 BTC [-]

15:03:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 8 @ 0.001031 = 0.0082 BTC [-]

15:03:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 958 @ 0.00103 = 0.9867 BTC [-]

15:06:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 42 @ 0.00103 = 0.0433 BTC [-]

15:07:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.001026 = 0.0205 BTC [-]

15:07:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.001021 = 0.0204 BTC [-]

15:07:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 8 @ 0.00102003 = 0.0082 BTC [-]

15:07:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 48 @ 0.00102002 = 0.049 BTC [-]

15:07:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00102001 = 0.0102 BTC [-]

15:07:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 594 @ 0.00102001 = 0.6059 BTC [-]

15:10:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.021 = 0.147 BTC [-]

15:19:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 21 @ 0.0999 = 2.0979 BTC [+]

15:20:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003405 = 0.0102 BTC [+]

15:23:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00088662 = 3.9011 BTC [+]

15:23:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00088724 = 3.2828 BTC [+]

15:24:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 2.219 = 24.409 BTC [+]

15:25:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 673 @ 0.00104999 = 0.7066 BTC [+]

15:25:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.00105 = 2.1 BTC [+]

15:31:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.003863 = 0.0077 BTC [-]

15:31:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003862 BTC [-]

15:31:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 40 @ 0.003861 = 0.1544 BTC [-]

15:31:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 2 @ 0.00385 = 0.0077 BTC [-]

15:31:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 125 @ 0.003801 = 0.4751 BTC [-]

15:31:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.0038 = 1.9 BTC [-]

15:31:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 179 @ 0.003765 = 0.6739 BTC [-]

15:31:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 125 @ 0.003711 = 0.4639 BTC [-]

15:31:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 500 @ 0.00371 = 1.855 BTC [-]

15:31:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 26 @ 0.00371 = 0.0965 BTC [-]

15:40:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.003403 = 0.0238 BTC [-]

15:40:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 85 @ 0.003406 = 0.2895 BTC [+]

15:40:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003406 BTC [+]

15:40:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120 @ 0.003407 = 0.4088 BTC [+]

15:40:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 300 @ 0.003408 = 1.0224 BTC [+]

15:40:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1143 @ 0.00341 = 3.8976 BTC [+]

15:46:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 26 @ 0.00102003 = 0.0265 BTC [-]

15:51:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.021 = 0.105 BTC [-]

15:52:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.021 = 0.042 BTC [-]

15:59:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.0107 = 0.0856 BTC [-]

16:00:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 857 @ 0.00341 = 2.9224 BTC [+]

16:00:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 135 @ 0.003429 = 0.4629 BTC [+]

16:00:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 108 @ 0.00343 = 0.3704 BTC [+]

16:10:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00088724 = 10.5138 BTC [+]

16:10:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00088753 = 1.42 BTC [+]

16:10:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00088794 = 2.7082 BTC [+]

16:11:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 2 @ 0.01209 = 0.0242 BTC [-]

16:11:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 97 @ 0.003428 = 0.3325 BTC [-]

16:11:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 14 @ 0.00247 = 0.0346 BTC [-]

16:12:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1503 @ 0.00343 = 5.1553 BTC [+]

16:14:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.00343 = 0.0686 BTC [+]

16:14:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 25 @ 0.000561 = 0.014 BTC [-]

16:14:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.000561 BTC [-]

16:15:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.00342 = 0.0103 BTC [-]

16:15:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.00105 BTC [+]

16:15:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 4301 @ 0.00102003 = 4.3871 BTC [-]

16:15:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 385 @ 0.00102001 = 0.3927 BTC [-]

16:16:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 297 @ 0.00342 = 1.0157 BTC [-]

16:17:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 300 @ 0.00680138 = 2.0404 BTC [+]

16:17:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 4 @ 0.0068 = 0.0272 BTC [-]

16:17:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 696 @ 0.00676 = 4.705 BTC [-]

16:17:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [-]

16:17:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 304 @ 0.00676 = 2.055 BTC [-]

16:18:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1500 @ 0.00675001 = 10.125 BTC [-]

16:18:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 13 @ 0.00670001 = 0.0871 BTC [-]

16:18:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 75 @ 0.0067 = 0.5025 BTC [-]

16:18:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 108 @ 0.00666666 = 0.72 BTC [-]

16:18:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 100 @ 0.0002 = 0.02 BTC [-]

16:19:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 411 @ 0.003938 = 1.6185 BTC [+]

16:19:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.021 = 0.063 BTC [-]

16:20:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.0119 BTC [+]

16:21:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 20 @ 0.003946 = 0.0789 BTC [+]

16:21:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003947 = 0.0395 BTC [+]

16:21:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 411 @ 0.003953 = 1.6247 BTC [+]

16:21:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 210 @ 0.003957 = 0.831 BTC [+]

16:21:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 105 @ 0.003958 = 0.4156 BTC [+]

16:21:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 183 @ 0.00399 = 0.7302 BTC [+]

16:21:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.003991 = 0.9978 BTC [+]

16:21:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.003999 = 0.2 BTC [+]

16:22:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.003996 = 0.999 BTC [-]

16:30:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]

16:31:11 fractal: url?

16:31:36 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/521/labcoins-own-130nm-design-sample-chips-will-be/

16:31:36 fractal: mp: well thats because whoever decided is a fool, and bitbet will take a reputational hit for it

16:31:42 ozbot: BitBet - Labcoins own 130nm design sample chips will be received by testers by 12TH SEPT 2013

16:31:43 Duffer1: the one about 5 tested samples before a certain date

16:31:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]

16:32:49 mircea_popescu: fractal he who steps into deciding contentious matters without recourse for the parties is going to make a lot of enemies of your sort.

16:32:50 fractal: "PR outlets and known shills specifically excluded" --- this is bad bet language... what is a PR outlet? who are the known shills? this is the kind of bullshit bet that BitBet should NOT be accepting

16:33:01 mircea_popescu: this was well known aforehand, excuse me if i fail to be impressed a year later.

16:33:25 mircea_popescu: yeah ? how would you have phrased that ?

16:33:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 4 @ 0.002099 = 0.0084 BTC [+]

16:34:15 Duffer1: "anyone officially involved with, or paid by"

16:34:26 fractal: id' specifically list names of users who have ordered and agreed to verity

16:34:29 Duffer1: meh idc

16:34:30 pankkake: Error: Google 2-Factor MUST be enabled to transfer shares.

16:34:36 pankkake: lol bitfunder

16:34:40 pankkake: really the worst site ever

16:34:54 Duffer1: bf makes me sad :(

16:34:58 mircea_popescu: fractal what if the list is 50`000 names long ?

16:35:01 fractal: heres another bullshit sentence -- "credibly show their sample ASIC chip working to specification" what is the specification? what is the timestamp of the spec? what if Labcoin changes spec during the bet?

16:35:14 fractal: mp: not hard to link to a pastebin

16:35:14 mircea_popescu: the timestamp is the date the bet was made.

16:35:25 mircea_popescu: this was established already on the bfl contentions.

16:35:33 mircea_popescu: and yes it's not hard to link to a pastebin but it's hard to have it read.

16:35:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]

16:35:44 fractal: mp: so then why was the bitfury bet a yes when the hardware UNIT as advertised didn't do 400Gh? but only 365Gh????????????

16:35:49 mircea_popescu: i'd rather have vague short text everyone can be expected to read than long text everyone can be expected not to read.

16:36:19 fractal: mp: the bitfury bet, as timestamped, showed the 400Gh unit as being hardware on 1M-board.

16:36:22 Duffer1: making a database of every name involved is a completely unrealistic expectation for any bet

16:36:28 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 exactly.

16:36:46 mircea_popescu: fractal they advertised two types, overshot performance on one, undershot on the other and made up for the difference sending more gear.

16:36:50 fractal: mp: if bitfury sehipped more hardware, they changed the spec, and the bet was a yes..... you've contradicted yourself.

16:36:58 mircea_popescu: i get that in a strong nominalist view you want this as a no,

16:37:13 mircea_popescu: but you'll have to understand that bitbet is used by many people for many purposes and technical arguments may or may not carry.

16:37:15 fractal: a nominalist view is the only way to decide it.

16:37:28 mircea_popescu: ideally your position is substantially supported. if it's technically suported you're at risk.

16:37:37 fractal: people bet based on the logical flow of the language in the bet

16:37:46 mircea_popescu: this is true now and it'll stay true as best as i can determine until we move on to writing c++ instead of english

16:37:54 fractal: hahah

16:37:59 fractal: lol

16:38:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1 @ 0.01185 BTC [-]

16:38:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 5 @ 0.00106 = 0.0053 BTC [+]

16:38:37 fractal: mp: i think betbet should return the NO bets their money, and then gain from the positive PR they'd receive

16:38:58 mircea_popescu: well if that's what you think i really can't wait for your competitor.

16:39:08 fractal: rather then having these forum posts continue on indefinitely

16:39:13 mircea_popescu: i'd bet there a lot, seeing how i probably have a lot more shitslinging capacity than you can dream of.

16:39:24 fractal: hahaha

16:39:28 fractal: ok sounds good

16:40:23 fractal: fuckbitbet.com wouldn't take bad bets though in the first place, so it woudln't run into these problems

16:40:33 ThickAsThieves: chip & pin card design added to details: http://i.imgur.com/YebNUYx.png

16:40:51 mircea_popescu: well no, as a fiction it wouldn't. once it's live i'm curious how that works.

16:41:01 mircea_popescu: and im not being facetious either. i'm actually curious. maybe i learn something.

16:41:28 fractal: just dont take bad bets. if the bet can't be broken down into logical symbols, dont take it

16:41:42 fractal: with all terms defined

16:42:22 mircea_popescu: this sounds great in theory.

16:42:35 fractal: btw, please dont register fuckbitbet.com

16:42:36 Duffer1: ThickAsThieves looks hot man, i like it a lot (except the yellow color of nEo, bitcoin orange might be cool)

16:42:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.217 BTC [-]

16:43:00 mircea_popescu: im not gonna.

16:43:23 mircea_popescu: (and if i was gonna i'd have registered it in january not september.)

16:43:36 fractal: why not? im trying to use reverse psychology so that you have to spend $4

16:43:41 fractal: regsiter it!!

16:43:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 62 @ 0.003801 = 0.2357 BTC [-]

16:43:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 188 @ 0.0038 = 0.7144 BTC [-]

16:43:57 mircea_popescu: lmao why not. because i believe in free speech.

16:44:04 fractal: now i'm actually using reverse reverse psychology so that you don't register it

16:44:20 fractal: or potentially reverse-reverse-reverse psychology

16:44:31 mircea_popescu: just go get laid.

16:44:51 fractal: advice we can all take, i'm sure.

16:45:20 mircea_popescu: im dried out. celebrated 100mn yesterday.

16:45:31 fractal: whats 100mn

16:47:03 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2013#290235

16:47:41 ClivePalmer: lol, just go get laid

16:48:02 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

16:48:42 fractal: oh, 100m difficulty?

16:48:47 fractal: yeah thats not surprising

16:49:14 mircea_popescu: it takes more to make a block than all the math done in the entire history of humanity up until 1900 or so.

16:49:20 fractal: btw, i gave up on trying to convince idiots that buying mining equipment in USD that doesn't ROI in BTC terms is a bad idea....

16:50:00 fractal: so now i'm selling virtual hashing units for USD that will never ROI in BTC terms.... i'm paying out 100% PPS, and pocketing the BTC differential as profit

16:50:24 fractal: but the idiot buyers are happy because 'when the exchange rate goes up, they'll ROI in USD!'

16:50:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 62 @ 0.0038 = 0.2356 BTC [-]

16:50:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 238 @ 0.003785 = 0.9008 BTC [-]

16:50:36 fractal: sooooooo stupid

16:50:39 fractal: easy money

16:50:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 250 @ 0.00343 = 0.8575 BTC [+]

16:51:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1049 = 0.2098 BTC [+]

16:51:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]

16:51:35 fractal: they send me USD. i immeditaely convert it to BTC.... then i pay them out 50% of that over the lifetime of the virtual miner, and keep the other 50% as profit

16:51:48 fractal: soooooooooo stupid idiots all over the forums falling for this

16:51:56 fractal: already have 800 BTC in contracts

16:52:09 ThickAsThieves: <Duffer1> ThickAsThieves looks hot man, i like it a lot (except the yellow color of nEo, bitcoin orange might be cool) <<< I like the yellow, but ultimately that's all decided by the marketing team

16:52:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1049 BTC [+]

16:52:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]

16:52:29 ThickAsThieves: I did suggest some tweaks, who knows if they'll listen :)

16:52:57 Duffer1: cheers man, i'm reading the prospectus now

16:53:07 fractal: all Mining company IPOs are a scam

16:53:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]

16:53:13 fractal: AM, VMC, all of them

16:53:17 fractal: short all of them to zero

16:53:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 20 @ 0.0031 = 0.062 BTC [-]

16:53:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2 @ 0.0031 = 0.0062 BTC [-]

16:54:10 ThickAsThieves: all companies are a scam, cuz like 99% of them go out of business someday

16:54:28 fractal: right. which means you have to sell shares to idiots to make money, which is morally wrong

16:54:36 fractal: according to luke-jr

16:54:44 Duffer1: i don't see how it's a scam if divs provide more income than your buy in

16:54:59 Luke-Jr: fractal: I don't decide morals.

16:55:27 fractal: Luke-Jr: you try to preach arbitrary ones

16:55:29 Luke-Jr: nor did I say what fractal claims I said

16:55:43 fractal: universal morals dont exist, everybody has different definitions. so get off your high horse

16:56:13 Luke-Jr: fractal: universal morals DO exist

16:56:17 pankkake: why even bother with this guy

16:56:18 fractal: Luke-Jr: yeah, you instead accuse others of trying to 'steal' coins from people. incredibly rude and unprofessional

16:56:21 Luke-Jr: "everybody" making up their own is merely delusional

16:56:27 pankkake: he reminds me of the crazy homeless guys who talk to themselves

16:56:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 50 @ 0.003784 = 0.1892 BTC [-]

16:56:47 pankkake: in 10 years he will be on the streets ranting about bitbet

16:56:51 fractal: Luke-Jr: your morals for betting standards -- i bet most would disagree with you

16:57:31 Luke-Jr: fractal: they aren't mine, and anyone who disagrees with the Church on morals is simply wrong

16:57:55 fractal: Luke-Jr: the same church that burned books, raped and killed millions? no thank you.

16:58:07 Luke-Jr: fractal: slander all you like, won't make it true

16:58:23 fractal: Luke-Jr: promote a set of morals that are false all you like, won't make it true

16:58:40 Luke-Jr: I don't.

16:58:47 fractal: yes, you do

16:59:00 fractal: you accussed me of theft based on your 'morals'

16:59:05 fractal: complete bullshit.

16:59:16 fractal: even after i used your own post to disprove your argument

16:59:30 fractal: since i told all in the comments that the bet was a NO

16:59:33 fractal: before betting

16:59:39 mircea_popescu: da fuck is going on here anyway.

16:59:40 fractal: i checked to make sure the rules

17:00:54 fractal: Luke-Jr: and by the way, bets on bitbet aren't bets. they are a contract, based on clauses in the FAQ, which read "Bets will not be cancelled because it became impossible for one side to win" ... this is against your morals post, which means everyone who bets on bitbet is not a moral better. which means they aren't betting, they're engaging in a contract

17:01:45 fractal: mp: basically Luke-Jr tried to accuse me of theft and stealing coins, based on some post from a christian church website on betting, because he thinkgs i knew the outcome before i made the bet, and didn't tell anyone about it in time for them to retract their bet

17:01:56 Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: fractal claims you're a scammer; while I don't argue about that, I think you made the right call here

17:02:17 fractal: Luke-Jr: everyone who can do math on the forum post disagrees with you

17:02:23 fractal: Luke-Jr: 2 units != 1 unit

17:02:35 Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: http://bitcointroll.org/?topic=289316.0

17:02:39 fractal: Luke-Jr: punin himself acknowleged that a 400Gh unit does not do 365Gh

17:02:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.189 BTC [-]

17:03:10 fractal: does not do 400Gh

17:03:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.232 BTC [+]

17:03:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 40 @ 0.0999 = 3.996 BTC [+]

17:04:03 fractal: also, I'll be monitoring the bitfury thread and waiting for punin to make more comments about what a 'unit' is.... I will post all of these so that people can see that your attempt to define a unit as something other then 1M-board makes you look like a complete fool

17:04:21 fractal: Luke-Jr: i have no doubt Anduck likely paid you off to shilll for him....

17:04:29 nubbins`: and where's the bitnet?

17:04:36 nubbins`: uh, bitbet

17:04:54 fractal: theres no possible way that anyone could say that a unit was anything other then what fits on 1M-board.... its advertised right on their website

17:05:07 fractal: the only reason someone would disagree is if they were paid a bribe...

17:05:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02049 = 0.4098 BTC [-]

17:05:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02049 = 0.2049 BTC [-]

17:05:24 fractal: you can't defy logic without paying a bribe

17:05:33 nubbins`: nm, found it

17:05:39 fractal: Luke-Jr: by the way, why did eligius start merge-mining Namecoin??? i thought you found that chain morally wrong to promote?

17:05:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.02048 = 0.4096 BTC [-]

17:06:06 fractal: Luke-Jr: personally i think its disgusting that you are knowingly merge mining a chain with illegal content on it....

17:06:26 nubbins`: well, after a cursory, glance, it would seem that the outcome of that bet is an obvious no. 365 < 400.

17:06:32 mircea_popescu: who is this guy anyway.

17:06:32 fractal: Luke-Jr: its clear that money and wealth has corrupted you......

17:06:49 fractal: nubbins`: thanks. you and most others are logical.

17:07:09 fractal: Luke-Jr: why does eligius merge mine namecoins? have you been corrupted by money?

17:07:13 Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: fractal = integrity42

17:07:33 fractal: Luke-Jr: another conspiratorial speculation by yourself

17:07:41 fractal: with zero evidence to back it up

17:07:59 nubbins`: for that matter, if the unit only hashes at 365GH/s, then the "400 gigahash mining units" haven't even been delivered

17:08:15 Luke-Jr: fractal: you spoke as if you were integrity42 and made no attempt to even implicitly deny it until now

17:08:17 mircea_popescu: aka some chick named janet ?

17:08:17 fractal: nubbins`: exactly.... thank god you can understand logic. Luke-Jr can't

17:08:34 nubbins`: "Devices must meet advertised performance" is pretty cut and dry, too. We all know what "MUST" means.

17:08:36 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: they delivered 400 Gh/s units that comprised of multiple boards

17:08:40 fractal: Luke-Jr: thinks that 2 Units == 1 Unit

17:08:51 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: which operate well within the advertised performance

17:08:55 fractal: Luke-Jr: 2 Units != 1 Unit.

17:09:01 fractal: Luke-Jr: they were seperate units

17:09:08 fractal: it was a refund

17:09:18 fractal: compensation for missing performance targets

17:09:26 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: link to specs? 400GH/s+ at <= 400W?

17:09:33 fractal: Luke-Jr: Do you know how many H-cards fit in a single unit?

17:09:52 fractal: Luke-Jr: How many H-cards fit in a single unit?

17:10:04 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the specs are linked from the OP there

17:10:17 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the actual watts used by both boards combined is like 270 W

17:10:21 fractal: Luke-Jr: why does eligius merge mine namecoins? you know it is illegal and immoral. when did you become corrupted by monetary gain?

17:10:47 fractal: nubbins`: notice how Luke-Jr says 'both' boards... when the bet states it must be contained in a single UNIT

17:11:15 Kleeck__: Oh. We're debating this AGAIN. This is week three, no?

17:11:20 fractal: Luke-Jr: why won't you answer my question regarding merge mining namecoin. you know it is immoral. when did you become corrupted by monetary gain?

17:11:23 Kleeck__: <3 Bitbet.

17:11:24 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: so they essentially attached 2 boards together, but it's still 400GH/s+ and <= 400W? And everyone who ordered one of these "400 gigahash mining units" is receiving one of these 2-boards-taped-together devices?

17:11:25 Luke-Jr: fractal: if you have an actual argument why namecoin is illegal or immoral, please feel free to email me with it or bring it up in #eligius - but after the last day or so, you seem entirely un-credible in your claims

17:11:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 20 @ 0.003957 = 0.0791 BTC [+]

17:11:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003958 = 0.0396 BTC [+]

17:11:52 fractal: nubbins`: they're not taped together... they're completely seperate devieces.... completely seperate units, because a single unit does not do 400Gh

17:11:55 Duffer1: not everyone received that though Nubbs, it's weird, just ignore it hehe

17:12:00 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: correct, although I don't know if they're physically connected

17:12:30 fractal: Luke-Jr: it came out of your mouth 2 months ago. you woudn't merge-,mine namecoin because it had illegal data in the blockchain --- i want to know when you changed your mind and became corrupted by money

17:12:45 fractal: Luke-Jr: they are 100% not physically connected. seperate units.

17:12:58 fractal: Luke-Jr: but of course, you didnt do your research before spitting out falsehoods

17:13:15 Luke-Jr: fractal: I encourged wizkid057 to reinstate namecoin merged mining when a new development team stepped forward and took it forward with Namecoin-Qt

17:13:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.003961 = 0.0158 BTC [+]

17:13:43 Duffer1: nubbins' did you ever play anarchy online under that name?

17:13:44 fractal: Luke-Jr: all i see from you is hypocrisy after hypocrisy....

17:13:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 1.134 = 3.402 BTC [+]

17:13:58 Luke-Jr: fractal: all I see from you is trolling after trolling

17:14:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1030 @ 0.001065 = 1.097 BTC [+]

17:14:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.00107 = 0.0214 BTC [+]

17:14:15 nubbins`: okay, well, i see ~500GH/s and ~267W. As long as EVERYONE who ordered the "400 gigahash mining unit" receives a 400 and a 25, the bet is an obvious YES. If not everyone receives a 400 and a 25, the bet is an obvious NO.

17:14:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.00108 = 0.0216 BTC [+]

17:14:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 15 @ 0.00108999 = 0.0163 BTC [+]

17:14:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.00109 = 0.0218 BTC [+]

17:14:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 158 @ 0.001093 = 0.1727 BTC [+]

17:14:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2997 @ 0.001098 = 3.2907 BTC [+]

17:14:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 35 @ 0.00109948 = 0.0385 BTC [+]

17:14:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 294 @ 0.00109997 = 0.3234 BTC [+]

17:14:40 ClivePalmer: oh penis

17:14:40 nubbins`: If not everyone receives a 400 plus a 25, then you can't call the 400+25 a "unit"

17:14:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 3 @ 0.00109999 = 0.0033 BTC [+]

17:14:43 fractal: <Luke-Jr> nubbins`: correct, although I don't know if they're physically connected ----- don't you think it would be important to find this out before drawing a conclution?

17:14:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [+]

17:14:47 ClivePalmer: tat save me sooooome

17:14:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.0011 = 0.22 BTC [+]

17:14:51 fractal: nubbins`: but they didn't get a 400Gh unit.

17:14:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 140 @ 0.0011 = 0.154 BTC [+]

17:14:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 363 @ 0.003982 = 1.4455 BTC [+]

17:14:56 Luke-Jr: fractal: no, because it is irrelevant

17:15:01 fractal: nubbins`: no 400Gh unit exists.

17:15:15 nubbins`: put it in a larger case, it's a "unit". you're being pedantic

17:15:20 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: some actually got a single board that does 400 Gh/s

17:15:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 38 @ 0.003982 = 0.1513 BTC [+]

17:15:36 fractal: nubbins`: it still missed performance specs, which is what the bet specifically states...

17:15:46 fractal: nubbins`: 400Gh in a single unit

17:15:51 fractal: you can't tape 2 together

17:15:52 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: did 5 "Respected members" get them, like the bet says?

17:15:54 fractal: or put 2 in a box

17:15:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 100 @ 0.0034 = 0.34 BTC [-]

17:15:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 38 @ 0.003981 = 0.1513 BTC [-]

17:16:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 47 @ 0.003982 = 0.1872 BTC [+]

17:16:11 fractal: nubbins`: no single user who ordered 400Gh unit posted receiving more hardware

17:16:24 fractal: nubbins`: only 1 guy who ordered 2 units and got an extra h-card

17:16:29 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: I presume, considering bitbet ruled it "yes"

17:16:39 fractal: but noone who ordered a 400Gh unit only got more then 400Gh

17:17:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 10 @ 0.009601 = 0.096 BTC [-]

17:17:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00111 = 0.0111 BTC [+]

17:17:55 fractal: either way, Luke-Jr's hypocrisy and corruption by money for mining namecoin.... should be taken into account when he tries to define what a UNIT is

17:18:12 Luke-Jr: I'm not trying to define a unit.

17:18:12 nubbins`: oh, so the guy who got 500GH/s and 267W actually ordered and received a 400GH unit and a 25GH unit, and then just pretended they were collectively a 400GH/s unit?

17:18:15 mircea_popescu: ><

17:18:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 8 @ 0.0096 = 0.0768 BTC [-]

17:18:22 Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu already did that

17:18:32 Luke-Jr: and he was the judge, so it's his perrogative to do so

17:19:00 nubbins`: i'm mildly surprised you guys can't come to an agreement on this between yourselves

17:19:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003987 BTC [+]

17:19:04 mircea_popescu: im not the judge. the closest approximation would be i am the minister of justice.

17:19:12 mircea_popescu: i might intervene in cases where judges are drunk

17:19:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 4 @ 0.01209 = 0.0484 BTC [-]

17:19:26 mircea_popescu: i won't intervene in cases where one party is pissed off with the judge's ruling.

17:19:43 Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: well, someone made the call that the bet's outcome was "yes"; that's a judgement.

17:19:47 nubbins`: heheh

17:20:00 nubbins`: they "substantially delivered" on the word "must"?

17:20:12 nubbins`: lel

17:20:23 fractal: nubbins`: yeah,... substantiall delivered != delivered

17:20:34 fractal: its mind blowing.

17:20:56 nubbins`: to be fair, i only started learning english as an infant, but i'm pretty sure the word "must" is an absolute

17:21:11 fractal: nubbins`: why, sir, I would say you are correct.

17:21:27 nubbins`: i would say you press enter too frequently

17:21:29 mircea_popescu: nubbins` what of the sentence "you must bring a cup of coffee"

17:21:33 fractal: pankkake gets so mad at this thread. love to see his posts... also proves he doesn't have me on ignore.... lol.

17:22:07 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: suppose i bring you a bowl of coffee instead?

17:22:17 mircea_popescu: suppose the cup is half full.

17:22:24 nubbins`: suppose it's a cup of piss

17:22:25 mircea_popescu: has the absolute been satisfied ?

17:23:52 nubbins`: yes, as you didn't state how full the cup should be

17:23:52 mircea_popescu: well but it's an absolute!

17:23:52 nubbins`: yes, so any cup of coffee, no matter how vague, will do

17:23:52 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the bet didn't state how many boards the unit must be

17:23:52 fractal: Luke-Jr: yes it did

17:23:52 deizel: "you must bring a single cup of coffee containing 400ml" would be a better analogy

17:23:52 mircea_popescu: nubbins` that's the problem with absolutes.

17:23:52 nubbins`: however, if you request 500ml of coffee at 90C, and I bring 437ml of coffee at 45C...

17:23:58 nubbins`: then i've obviously not delivered on your absolute

17:24:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.00247 = 0.0074 BTC [-]

17:24:07 mircea_popescu: deizel wasn't making an analogy for the bet, was simply verifying the properties of must.

17:24:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.188 BTC [-]

17:24:15 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: in this case, they brought 500ml of coffee at 90C in a bigger cup

17:24:18 fractal: Luke-Jr: It says the 400Gh unit must meet advertised performance.... it was advertised at 1-Mboard, 1-Rpi with 16 H-cards....... you're totally wrong and out of your league here... please READ

17:24:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.188 BTC [-]

17:24:28 deizel: it's still absolute

17:24:42 fractal: No, in this case, they brought 2 cups of coffe, because they didn't make 1 cup big enough

17:24:49 fractal: I wanted 400ml in 1 cup

17:24:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 3 @ 0.002407 = 0.0072 BTC [-]

17:24:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 497 @ 0.002407 = 1.1963 BTC [-]

17:24:54 mircea_popescu: it is still absolute, but that doesn't mean absolutely anything someone wants it to mean.

17:24:54 Luke-Jr: fine, 500ml of 90C coffee in 2 cups

17:24:54 fractal: I got 400ml in 2 cups....

17:24:56 fractal: the bet is a no

17:24:58 nubbins`: this guy MXRider even says: "Some info and pictures of my units: 400GH unit and 25GH unit."

17:25:08 fractal: I want my coffee in 1 CUP

17:25:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.172 BTC [-]

17:25:10 nubbins`: obviously 2 separate units

17:25:11 deizel: you either absolutely brought a cup of coffee or a cup of containing 400ml of coffee.. its all depends on the wording of the initial demand

17:25:15 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: only the judge of the bet has any authority to interpret the bet in this case

17:25:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1 @ 0.01902 BTC [-]

17:25:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 11 @ 0.01901002 = 0.2091 BTC [-]

17:25:41 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: all have authority to interpret. few have authority to pass judgment

17:25:41 fractal: Bunnyh: yes.... of course its 2 seperate units... Luke-Jr doesn't understand what a unit is....

17:25:48 fractal: Luke-Jr decided not to read anything and jumped to conclusions

17:26:01 mircea_popescu: fractal need you a link to the earlier discussion of laptops ?

17:26:38 fractal: mp: you asked for 1 cup with 400ML coffee in it.... you got 2 cups with 250ML in each one..... the request was not met.

17:26:48 fractal: you only want to carry around 1 cup, not 2 cups

17:26:52 mircea_popescu: well i asked for nothing, myself.

17:26:58 deizel: so, "Coffee must meet advertised capacity (400ml per cup)" and I give you two cups, each with less than 400ml...

17:27:00 fractal: mp: thats the perfect anaology

17:27:05 mircea_popescu: im just sitting here and partaking in the lively debate of shit that actually matters.

17:27:13 mircea_popescu: this is the aborted rota part 2, basically.

17:27:27 nubbins`: see, if the manufacturer had taped both units inside a shoebox, he could get away with calling two separate units a single unit. but he didn't. the guy who received the units said "here are my two units", and then just pretended that the two separate units were in fact collectively the smaller unit

17:27:36 fractal: deizel: yes... correct.... mp, luke-jr, and other bitbet shills were paid off by Anduck and the yes betters... .which is why they'll disagree with you and the facts

17:27:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.189 BTC [+]

17:27:52 mircea_popescu: nubbins` im sure at some point they were somehow packaged together. seems a weird way to go about it.

17:27:55 Luke-Jr: I didn't even know who the yes betters were until just now

17:28:04 Luke-Jr: and lol @ me being a bitbet shill

17:28:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-GROWTH] 4 @ 0.0999 = 0.3996 BTC [+]

17:28:12 fractal: nubbins`: thats exactly correct. your ability to draw logic is very good

17:28:14 mircea_popescu: fractal dude get away. it's ridiculous, anduck is this kid.

17:28:29 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: well, what do you suppose was on the shipping waybill? one item or two?

17:28:39 nubbins`: fractal: math degree

17:28:43 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i have no idea, but i think it's a ridiculous criteria.

17:28:45 fractal: "the guy who received the units said "here are my two units", and then just pretended that the two separate units were in fact collectively the smaller unit" <--- this

17:28:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 10 @ 0.0033 = 0.033 BTC [+]

17:28:57 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: the whole thing is ridiculous

17:29:07 mircea_popescu: i wonder if the rabinical council of lvov ever saw such heartfelt contention !

17:29:12 fractal: mp: maybe if the bet was a NO , as it should have been, then there wouldn't be any issues

17:29:17 nubbins`: <3

17:29:29 mircea_popescu: fractal there'd have been a number of issues still, yes.

17:29:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.237 BTC [+]

17:29:51 fractal: mp: why? nobody on the yes side would have complained, because not all clauses were met....

17:29:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.238 BTC [+]

17:30:07 Luke-Jr: number of boards was not a clause

17:30:24 nubbins`: I'm gonna introduce a bet that Apple makes a dual-screen laptop in 2013, and then i'm going to order a macbook and an iPhone, and claim that when they both show up, it's a dual-screen laptop

17:30:33 nubbins`: because hey

17:30:41 nubbins`: who cares that they were sold as discrete units

17:30:42 Bunnyh: fractal: ok, though i don't remember saying anything here :P

17:30:44 nubbins`: i own both

17:30:53 Bunnyh: well, maybe yesterday. this conversation looks familiar !

17:30:59 nubbins`: and therefore can call the macbook+phone combo "a macbook"

17:31:25 mircea_popescu: lol. nubbins` would you return a laptop because it comes with a power brick and you ordered ONE unit ?

17:31:25 nubbins`: i mean, the bet says the macbook must have 2 screens, and see? two screens

17:31:35 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: but these WEREN'T sold as discrete units

17:32:06 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i'm greedy, i don't return free things

17:32:18 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: there seems to be a lot of confusion around that point

17:32:19 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: nor is "unit" a trademark - it's an English word that can apply to collectives

17:32:19 mircea_popescu: ya well.

17:32:49 Luke-Jr: while Apple can define "macbook" because it is their trademark, English words are completely in the judge's discretion

17:33:04 fractal_: Luke-Jr: not in this case -- the language dicatates that a unit is self-contained miner, not a collection of miners, due to it being advertsied as such

17:33:16 fractal_: so, sorry.

17:34:02 nubbins`: can i just get a clear answer on one thing: are people who ordered the "400 gigahash mining unit" receiving 400GH/s+ at 400W, regardless of the form it takes?

17:34:12 mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah they did.

17:34:22 mircea_popescu: it was about 290w or something like that,

17:34:22 nubbins`: any arguments to the contrary?

17:34:38 mircea_popescu: and as far as anyone kniows they'll get refurbished later to double performance or some shit

17:35:07 nubbins`: well, refurbs aren't relevant to this bet, although that'd be great news for the owners

17:35:42 nubbins`: okay, so everyone seems to have gone silent, which i guess means that people who ordered "400 gigahash mining units" received 400GH/s+ at <= 400W

17:35:48 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02049 BTC [+]

17:35:54 nubbins`: so what's the big fucking problem?

17:36:16 nubbins`: or are we just flapping our gums at each other

17:36:22 mircea_popescu: it wasn't packed right, basically.

17:36:27 nubbins`: lel

17:36:29 mircea_popescu: which has some merits, but how far are you going to go.

17:36:32 nubbins`: cry me a river

17:36:45 mircea_popescu: eventually someone in samoa is going to say some miner is not according to obscure samoan law thus undelivered thus bet is a clear no.

17:36:55 mircea_popescu: and i'm looking at you jcpham

17:37:19 fractal_: the bet specifically states that the form of the 400Gh must be in a single unit. It is not. they missed on performance. the bet is therefore a no.

17:37:33 nubbins`: no it doesn't

17:37:38 nubbins`: quote the part where it says that

17:37:50 fractal_: 400Gh UNIT 400W

17:37:54 fractal_: unit == 1 miner

17:37:58 fractal_: as advertised

17:38:17 nubbins`: sorry, no

17:38:22 fractal_: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/ this is what the 400Gh UNIT was advertsied as

17:38:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 13 @ 0.00111707 = 0.0145 BTC [+]

17:38:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 25 @ 0.00111968 = 0.028 BTC [+]

17:38:36 fractal_: this unit, as advertised, did not meet performance specs

17:38:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1462 @ 0.0011197 = 1.637 BTC [+]

17:38:45 nubbins`: when you get a big mac combo, is it not a meal because it's not all smashed together?

17:39:11 fractal_: nubbins: if the bet says you must get 400ml of coffee in your cup, and you get 2 cups with 500ml, they bet is a no.

17:39:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 18 @ 0.0011197 = 0.0202 BTC [+]

17:39:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 88 @ 0.0011199 = 0.0986 BTC [+]

17:39:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]

17:39:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00112 = 0.112 BTC [+]

17:39:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00112 = 0.0112 BTC [+]

17:39:31 nubbins`: but the bet doesn't say "in your cup"

17:39:35 nubbins`: it just states an amount of coffee

17:39:41 fractal_: 400ML in a cup @ 140degrees F

17:39:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 3 @ 0.00021999 = 0.0007 BTC [+]

17:39:47 fractal_: 400Gh UNIT

17:39:47 Duffer1: ThickAsThieves if I buy one xbond will that allow me to buy as many pre-ipvo shares as I can get my hands on, or do I have to redeem 1 xbond per neobee?

17:39:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 104 @ 0.02049 = 2.131 BTC [+]

17:39:51 fractal_: the word unit is specifically written there

17:39:52 nubbins`: yeah, you keep saying the word unit

17:40:01 fractal_: and a unit is advertised here http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/

17:40:11 fractal_: this unit, as advertised, doesn't do 400Gh

17:40:24 fractal_: the bet required the hardware to meet performance as advertised. it didn't

17:40:24 nubbins`: i thought you had a valid beef, but you're just squabbling over semantics because you lost money

17:40:32 nubbins`: grow up

17:40:46 nubbins`: lel @ fractal sobbing over a free upgrade

17:40:46 fractal_: its not semantics, its actual logical language

17:41:03 fractal_: the joke isn't on me, its on everyone disagreeing

17:41:27 fractal_: the fact is that the language , as written, requires a 400Gh UNIT to exist

17:41:33 fractal_: as advertised

17:42:26 nubbins`: i renovated my bathroom last month, and i purchased a new shower unit

17:42:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 10 @ 0.01209 = 0.1209 BTC [-]

17:42:31 nubbins`: (no joke)

17:42:40 nubbins`: the unit consisted of a tub and a tub surround

17:42:50 nubbins`: sometimes "units" have more than one item

17:42:57 mircea_popescu: nubbins` how much is anduck paying you btw ?

17:43:16 fractal_: nubbins`: then that is the unit as advertised..... the unit as advertised here was 1M-board, 1R-pi, and 16 H-cards

17:43:38 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i can get paid to do this??!?!

17:43:58 nubbins`: jesus

17:44:00 fractal_: <pankakke> i dare you to come in here every day and complain. <--- challenge accepted

17:44:01 nubbins`: talk about a wasted life

17:44:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00113 = 0.0113 BTC [+]

17:44:38 pankkake: nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240677.0 received zero valid offers, so my guess is no, you can't

17:44:39 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i hear there's a ~5btc budget.

17:45:23 nubbins`: pretty deep pockets for ~11BTC in losing bets

17:45:40 mircea_popescu: it's in the scrollback.

17:46:35 nubbins`: anyway, a "unit" is obviously whatever they're selling as "a unit"

17:46:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 6 @ 0.000581 = 0.0035 BTC [+]

17:46:51 nubbins`: if they want to include a free baseball card, well, each unit comes with a baseball card

17:46:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 50 @ 0.00113998 = 0.057 BTC [+]

17:46:55 fractal_: nubbins`: and this is what they're selling as a unit --> http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/

17:46:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00114 = 0.0114 BTC [+]

17:47:16 fractal_: nubbins`: according to bitbet rules, the timestamp of the bet is what is advertsied -- it can't be changed after the fact.

17:47:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 21 @ 0.00058 = 0.0122 BTC [-]

17:47:28 fractal_: so adding more hardware doesn't apply

17:48:03 nubbins`: you make a convincing argument, but the bet doesn't mention anything about the components included

17:48:14 nubbins`: it only mentions performance, which was delivered upon

17:48:30 nubbins`: whoever made the bet should have been more specific, i guess

17:48:32 fractal_: nubbins`: it wasn't though. the 400Gh unit , as advertised, only does 365Gh.

17:48:40 fractal_: that they shipped more hardware is irrelevant

17:49:11 fractal_: i placed the bet because i didn't think the hardware was going to perform as advertised -- and it didn't

17:49:14 fractal_: i got robbed

17:49:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003804 = 0.038 BTC [-]

17:49:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 258 @ 0.003803 = 0.9812 BTC [-]

17:49:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 338 @ 0.003801 = 1.2847 BTC [-]

17:49:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 94 @ 0.0038 = 0.3572 BTC [-]

17:49:34 nubbins`: well, it's relevant in that they delivered on all specs that were in the bet

17:49:47 fractal_: no they didn't

17:49:48 mircea_popescu: if indeed that's the case you'd have been much better served by making a "The Bitfury strikes back 400gh/s unit will not exist as the 16 boards together will hash under 400gh/s"

17:49:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 377 @ 0.003804 = 1.4341 BTC [+]

17:49:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 258 @ 0.003803 = 0.9812 BTC [-]

17:49:54 fractal_: the 400Gh unit wasn't 400Gh

17:49:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1251 @ 0.0038 = 4.7538 BTC [-]

17:49:57 nubbins`: you didn't get robbed, you misjudged their ability to deliver a certain GH/s for a certain W

17:50:07 fractal_: mp: i should have done that in hindsight , of course

17:50:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 13 @ 0.003787 = 0.0492 BTC [-]

17:50:21 fractal_: nubbins`: no, i was correct in that the 400Gh unit would not hash at 400Gh

17:50:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 52 @ 0.003786 = 0.1969 BTC [-]

17:50:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 27 @ 0.003781 = 0.1021 BTC [-]

17:50:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.00378 = 0.0832 BTC [-]

17:50:27 nubbins`: no, you weren't

17:50:28 fractal_: which was a performance requirement

17:50:30 nubbins`: that's what i'm saying

17:50:37 fractal_: i was. thats what im saying

17:50:37 mircea_popescu: this is imo the most important takeaway here : rather than hang your bet on some technicality, just make a new one in which your point of interest is substantially the bet.

17:50:59 nubbins`: yeah

17:51:02 fractal_: the unit must be > 400Gh, and < 400W.. the unit did not meet this performance spec

17:51:07 fractal_: the bet is therefore a no

17:51:08 nubbins`: really poorly worded bet was the root of all this trouble

17:51:21 nubbins`: if you lost money because you bet on a poorly worded bet, well, nobody feels sorry for you

17:51:24 mircea_popescu: nubbins` they're always and perpetually going to be poorly worded.

17:51:26 fractal_: yes, i would agree that the bullshit bet was poorly worded bullshit and i shouldn't have bet

17:51:30 mircea_popescu: this because reality surprises, which is a good thing overall.

17:51:38 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: and so forever, nobody will weep for those who lost

17:51:39 fractal_: if i knew that the decider was going to not follow logic

17:51:42 nubbins`: i'm ok with this

17:52:04 nubbins`: no, everyone is following logic

17:52:11 nubbins`: you're just being fussy

17:52:18 nubbins`: you'll never admit it, but you are

17:52:35 fractal_: theres no room for substantially delivered == delivered

17:52:41 fractal_: theres either true or false

17:52:50 fractal_: substantially delivered != delivered

17:52:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.172 BTC [-]

17:52:52 mircea_popescu: are you tall or s hort ?

17:52:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.172 = 4.344 BTC [-]

17:52:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.171 BTC [-]

17:52:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.142 BTC [-]

17:52:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.141 = 4.282 BTC [-]

17:52:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.136 BTC [-]

17:53:00 fractal_: ok i gotta run

17:53:03 nubbins`: i agree there, substantially != absolutely

17:53:07 nubbins`: however

17:53:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 2.136 = 4.272 BTC [-]

17:53:15 nubbins`: the word "substantially" doesn't even belong there

17:53:24 nubbins`: the bet was delivered upon, full stop

17:53:29 fractal_: no. it wasn't.

17:53:30 nubbins`: any issues, get some tissues

17:53:41 fractal_: well the issue is fraud

17:53:46 nubbins`: i thought you had to run

17:53:57 fractal_: so its not tissues, its an aweareness campaign for people to stay away from BitBet

17:53:58 nubbins`: fraud! lel

17:54:19 nubbins`: it's an awareness campaign to stay away from anything you're involved in

17:54:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.002469 = 0.0099 BTC [+]

17:54:40 pankkake: "Will MT. GOX be trading Litecoin as a currency before the end of 2013? " why was this rejected? I don't how it is unverifiable

17:54:40 fractal_: only fools grab tissues

17:54:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00088745 = 4.6147 BTC [-]

17:54:47 nubbins`: people already stay away from bitbet

17:54:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 2 @ 0.1036 = 0.2072 BTC [-]

17:54:52 fractal_: pankkake: because you're an idiot

17:55:01 fractal_: nubbins`: obviously not enough of they stay away

17:55:10 mircea_popescu: pankkake basically someone knows how it will come out

17:55:15 mircea_popescu: you can't bet on shit lioke that.

17:55:49 fractal_: mp: pankkake isn't very smart, and wants to add more bad bets to bitbet, so that there are more problems like the one that just happened with bitfury....

17:56:11 nubbins`: name calling isn't nice

17:56:14 fractal_: so he can troll on the forums when the bet gets disputed

17:56:22 fractal_: nubbins`: tell that to Luke-Jr , who called me a theif.

17:56:34 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: calling names isn't nice

17:56:38 nubbins`: ...

17:56:38 fractal_: hahaha thanks

17:56:47 nubbins`: always the voice of reason

17:56:50 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: that's not a name, it's a noun

17:56:50 pankkake: mircea_popescu: what do you mean, someone at mtgox knows? does it matter?

17:56:52 fractal_: at least you're neutral

17:57:05 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: it's not even a word

17:57:16 Luke-Jr: nubbins`: the misspelling was fractal_'s

17:57:17 mircea_popescu: pankkake well to me it reads like a variant of "I will publish the number 15 on my website by end of year".

17:57:18 nubbins`: I before E except after C

17:57:20 mircea_popescu: why's this even a bet ?

17:57:25 nubbins`: and except after all those other instances

17:57:35 nubbins`: Luke-Jr: i figured ;(

17:58:11 pankkake: well it's more than that, it's actually having the possibility to buy litecoins with it

17:58:23 nubbins`: add something about volume to the wording

17:58:30 fractal_: nubbins`: Luke-Jr is quite the hypocrite, pull up logs from 2 months ago regarding him and namecoin, you'll see he became corrupted by money.... very sad from someone who preaches about morals all day.

17:58:47 nubbins`: gox will have a daily volume of xyz in LTC by the end of 2013

17:59:04 fractal_: Luke-Jr likes to pass judgement on others, but ignores his own sings

17:59:05 Luke-Jr: pankkake: Try "Will someone successfully obtain fiat currency in a traditional bank transferred from MtGox, from selling Litecoins on MtGox, before 2014?"

17:59:06 fractal_: sins

17:59:06 nubbins`: fractal_: i don't care and that's not relevant. who taught you how to argue?

17:59:26 Luke-Jr: fractal_: as I already said, Namecoin changed

17:59:29 fractal_: i'm l33t. im a layw3r

17:59:33 nubbins`: i don't give a red fuck if someone's "corrupted by money" or what their morals are

17:59:40 fractal_: Luke-Jr: the blockchain data didn't

17:59:49 pankkake: Luke-Jr: that's better, but then no one will bet on that :p

18:00:03 Luke-Jr: fractal_: you're assuming we store it

18:00:04 fractal_: nubbins`: yes, but Luke-Jr cares, because he passes judgement on others and ignores his own sins....

18:00:29 nubbins`: fractal_: okay, lovely, but why do you tell me this?

18:00:52 fractal_: i'd suggest that Luke-Jr pray forgiveness for his sins before passing judgement on others

18:00:58 mircea_popescu: pankkake i made the mistake of querying the mod that did it. here you go : "because wtf is mtgox already! look they've been announcing ltc for like a year. it's a dying dog saying it's going to start eating rabbits, i'm not taking bets on whether it actually does. besides, they're a known group of scammers and liars, what's to keep them from fronting ltc trades? and then obviously even if they did manage to implement t

18:00:58 mircea_popescu: he thing, "you can only trade with an anal probe" well is it implemented or not?"

18:01:31 fractal_: gotta run... we'll have to continue the trollfest later....

18:01:39 nubbins`: no, don't go

18:01:45 pankkake: lol

18:01:57 nubbins`: honestly, young adults these days

18:02:18 mircea_popescu: mostly to put things in perspective.

18:02:36 mircea_popescu: the amount of sheer psychotic paranoia on the part of bitbet mods is quite the thing to gaze upon

18:02:44 mircea_popescu: and yet...

18:05:08 nubbins`: <fractal_> nubbins`: yes, but Luke-Jr cares, because he passes judgement on others and ignores his own sins....

18:05:13 nubbins`: lel

18:05:54 nubbins`: as if we're supposed to gasp and point

18:06:08 nubbins`: smash a stone tablet or something

18:06:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002469 BTC [+]

18:10:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 155 @ 0.00114 = 0.1767 BTC [+]

18:12:06 nubbins`: man, deal coin is all over the place

18:13:21 nubbins`: it's gotta suck to buy ipo shares and see them being traded at 0.6x par three days later

18:14:23 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i think it's a good lesson really.

18:14:32 mircea_popescu: it's one thing for all the pro conment to be startying "asic miners"

18:14:42 mircea_popescu: it's another for every two bit kid with a modem to be doing the same.

18:14:54 mircea_popescu: at least this way they learn they have to take losses in the process.

18:15:43 nubbins`: well, i'm not sure how much learning takes place

18:16:00 benkay: infinite idiots problem

18:17:09 nubbins`: i've got some ideas about an e-ink based hardware wallet that i haven't fully thought through, maybe i could collect 600 BTC in an ipo as well

18:17:20 nubbins`: spend 20 minutes making a website

18:17:26 nubbins`: geocities is gone, right?

18:18:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002469 BTC [+]

18:18:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00088589 = 2.6577 BTC [-]

18:19:28 jcpham: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289508.0

18:19:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.MINIGAME] 3 @ 0.000243 = 0.0007 BTC [+]

18:19:33 ozbot: Using the Kobo Mini eReader as a dynamic (BIP0032) Bitcoin tip jar

18:19:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 3 @ 0.000645 = 0.0019 BTC [+]

18:20:04 nubbins`: yeah, just saw that, coincidentally

18:20:12 nubbins`: but those e-ink displays are cheap

18:20:26 nubbins`: CHEAP

18:21:03 benkay: nubbins`: https://neocities.org/

18:21:03 nubbins`: and you could make hardware wallets WAY less complicated than the trezor

18:21:14 nubbins`: no need for usb cables or any of that risky shit

18:22:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 12 @ 0.000561 = 0.0067 BTC [-]

18:23:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 10 @ 0.00056 = 0.0056 BTC [-]

18:23:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 80 @ 0.000551 = 0.0441 BTC [-]

18:24:51 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i can see collecting a few hundred btc for making a hardware wallet if you can convince you know wtf you're doing.

18:26:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.000516 BTC [-]

18:26:13 nubbins`: oh, i've got it all figured out, and it's brilliantly simple. i just don't have any contacts with the hardware know-how.

18:26:40 nubbins`: it's so simple that i'm surprised it hasn't been done already

18:26:55 nubbins`: and instead people are fucking with usb cables

18:27:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 101 @ 0.009884 = 0.9983 BTC [+]

18:28:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 101 @ 0.00241 = 0.2434 BTC [-]

18:28:55 nubbins`: problem is, you try to IPO the idea, and someone with hardware know-how just implements the idea before you get everything in place

18:30:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 101 @ 0.01209 = 1.2211 BTC [-]

18:30:28 mircea_popescu: perhaps.

18:30:43 mircea_popescu: so find someone with the hardware know how to help you and ipo after.

18:31:52 nubbins`: yeah, you'd have a hard time convincing someone with the know-how to get on board without already being stacked with cash

18:32:33 mircea_popescu: this is where your own personal credentials get to play.

18:32:49 nubbins`: well, easy for you to say

18:32:53 mircea_popescu: ikr?

18:32:57 nubbins`: lel

18:33:02 mircea_popescu: but someone earlier was like they don't care about respek

18:33:12 mircea_popescu: well... it matters, at the very least because it resolves this catch 22 situation.

18:33:17 nubbins`: anyway, it could just as easily be implemented in a static web page with a couple lines of javascript

18:33:35 nubbins`: it's just that having a hardware version would be cute

18:33:42 nubbins`: and we know how people feel about cute things

18:33:56 mircea_popescu: talk to a chinese vibrator manufacturer then

18:33:57 nubbins`: besides, you can't fit a smartphone on your keychain

18:34:45 nubbins`: cheapie e-ink displays, on the other hand

18:35:07 nubbins`: supermarkets are already using them for live-updated price tags on shelves

18:35:33 nubbins`: the beauty is that they don't even need any sort of net connectivity

18:36:37 nubbins`: no physical connectivity at all, aside from your own PC at home

18:37:23 benkay: mircea_popescu: browser as universal runtime

18:37:29 benkay: mircea_popescu: COME ON

18:37:34 mircea_popescu: no.

18:37:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02025 = 0.2025 BTC [+]

18:38:28 benkay: 5 dollar roll-to-roll printed smart phones are coming (eventually)

18:38:52 benkay: javascript and html can be super light if done correctly

18:38:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 10 @ 0.02025 = 0.2025 BTC [+]

18:39:14 nubbins`: even a web browser is pretty heavy for this sort of thing

18:39:29 nubbins`: all you really need is the ability to display images and do some math

18:40:26 mircea_popescu: nubbins` he was referencing some earlier discussion

18:40:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 13 @ 0.001145 = 0.0149 BTC [+]

18:40:35 nubbins`: you mean it's not all about me? ;p

18:43:05 mircea_popescu: lol

18:45:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.1094 = 0.6564 BTC [+]

18:45:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 31 @ 0.1095 = 3.3945 BTC [+]

18:45:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [+]

18:45:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1122 = 0.2244 BTC [+]

18:45:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1188 = 0.2376 BTC [+]

18:49:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.197 BTC [+]

18:50:52 pankkake: http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-09-07/exactly-i-warned-cyprusization-goes-mainstream-ireland-tap-next-citizen-fund-

18:52:51 mircea_popescu: spain or italy next ?

18:55:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 20 @ 0.003962 = 0.0792 BTC [+]

18:55:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003963 = 0.0396 BTC [+]

18:55:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003965 = 0.0397 BTC [+]

18:55:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 372 @ 0.003974 = 1.4783 BTC [+]

18:55:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 372 @ 0.003976 = 1.4791 BTC [+]

18:55:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 363 @ 0.003989 = 1.448 BTC [+]

18:55:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 250 @ 0.00399 = 0.9975 BTC [+]

18:56:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 324 @ 0.003996 = 1.2947 BTC [+]

18:57:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 283 @ 0.003996 = 1.1309 BTC [+]

18:57:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 141 @ 0.003999 = 0.5639 BTC [+]

19:01:29 Namworld: If they can get away with it somewhere, they'll start doing it elsewhere.

19:01:50 Namworld: and keep doing it more and more until they can no longer get away with it

19:02:32 mircea_popescu: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-04/poland-to-take-over-bonds-from-pension-funds-in-system-revamp.html

19:03:15 mircea_popescu: there's a good example. the polish government just stole ~100bn dollars worth of private pensions

19:03:15 mircea_popescu: because people having their own private pensions makes it pretty impossible for the state flytrap to borrow as nobody credits them

19:03:25 Namworld: By my estimates, that should occur somewhere between people left with 5% of their wealth and people being officially enslaved.

19:03:44 Namworld: Like they need to borrow more. If they can't function without constantly borrowing more...

19:03:51 mircea_popescu: the best part ? "While the funds won?t be allowed to buy government bonds, they?ll be able to buy more corporate debt and will be freed from having to comply with performance benchmarks, according to comments from the labor and finance ministers."

19:03:59 mircea_popescu: so basically... now that it's state run it may be bankrupt.

19:04:22 mircea_popescu: puts any sort of statal proceeding against the free world on the very uneasy footing of "we know you're thieves"

19:04:33 lolstate: !seen ThickAsThieves

19:05:04 lolstate: ; seen ThickAsThieves

19:05:32 mircea_popescu: ;;

19:05:36 lolstate: ta

19:05:42 lolstate: ;;

19:05:46 lolstate: ;; ThickAsThieves

19:05:46 gribble: Error: "ThickAsThieves" is not a valid command.

19:05:52 lolstate: ;; seen ThickAsThieves

19:05:52 gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> all companies are a scam, cuz like 99% of them go out of business someday

19:05:54 Duffer1: hehe

19:06:46 lolstate: Any thoughts on the Neo & Bee IPO?

19:08:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003403 = 0.017 BTC [+]

19:08:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 145 @ 0.003402 = 0.4933 BTC [-]

19:09:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02099 BTC [+]

19:09:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.237 BTC [+]

19:10:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.237 BTC [+]

19:10:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.238 BTC [+]

19:10:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.238 BTC [+]

19:11:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.239 BTC [+]

19:13:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]

19:13:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.09423 = 0.6596 BTC [-]

19:16:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.003995 = 0.0879 BTC [-]

19:17:13 nubbins`: anyone ever used alibaba?

19:17:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 6 @ 0.003996 = 0.024 BTC [+]

19:19:30 mircea_popescu: nope. it's a thing tho, like ebay.

19:19:36 mircea_popescu: perhaps with more scammers on.

19:19:46 nubbins`: yeah, just browsing now

19:21:35 nubbins`: i think with even low quantity (5-10k units) i can get these HW wallets made insanely cheap

19:21:51 nubbins`: like retail for < 0.1 BTC

19:22:26 mircea_popescu: in the immortal words of jeff goldblum in the fly, "i'm more like a supply chain manager"

19:23:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.09432 BTC [+]

19:23:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 176 @ 0.00241 = 0.4242 BTC [-]

19:24:06 nubbins`: if you haven't seen a mutated, melting jeff goldblum whimpering "kill me", you haven't seen jeff goldblum

19:25:16 nubbins`: anyway, time for a beach fire

19:26:04 mircea_popescu: "I farm bits and pieces out to the guys who are much more brilliant than I am. I say, "build me a laser", this. "Design me a molecular analyzer", that. They do, and I just stick 'em together. But, none of them know what the project really is. So..."

19:31:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003477 = 0.0174 BTC [+]

19:31:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 5 @ 0.001145 = 0.0057 BTC [+]

19:33:04 benkay: i am very curious about those raw asic chips all over alibaba

19:33:34 benkay: data is hard to come by in the asic mining space.

19:37:29 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 28 @ 0.003477 = 0.0974 BTC [+]

19:54:11 jurov: i finally bought decent gpu.. not to mine but to play eve lmao

19:54:21 mircea_popescu: lol

19:56:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 79 @ 0.01209 = 0.9551 BTC [-]

19:56:18 jurov: had only onboard radeon 55xx.. it was playable but reacted slowly, sucked at combat

19:56:32 jurov: with 7790 it's smooth at high setting

19:58:29 pankkake: did buying nvidia cross your mind? ;)

19:59:16 jurov: figured it would be easier to upgrade.. and what if i change my mind on mining? xD

19:59:54 mircea_popescu: lol

19:59:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02042 = 0.2042 BTC [-]

19:59:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02041 = 0.0816 BTC [-]

20:00:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 22 @ 0.0204 = 0.4488 BTC [-]

20:00:01 mircea_popescu: i never used anything but nvidia.

20:00:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02026 = 0.0405 BTC [-]

20:00:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.02025 = 0.2633 BTC [-]

20:00:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0202 BTC [-]

20:00:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.02002 = 0.6006 BTC [-]

20:00:11 mircea_popescu: since about 1998 or so

20:00:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 38 @ 0.02002 = 0.7608 BTC [-]

20:00:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02001 BTC [-]

20:00:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]

20:00:22 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.02 = 2 BTC [-]

20:00:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.02 = 0.08 BTC [-]

20:00:39 pankkake: as it's a sunk cost, it would make sense to mine (unless electricity price is too high of course)

20:00:54 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 1 @ 0.000642 BTC [+]

20:01:36 pankkake: I left nvidia as soon as I could (decent open source drivers)

20:02:01 pankkake: that reminds me of https://www.fsf.org/photos/rms-sign.jpg

20:03:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.00247 = 0.0049 BTC [+]

20:04:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.001145 BTC [+]

20:05:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.00247 = 0.0049 BTC [+]

20:05:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [+]

20:05:08 jurov: afaik the opensource ati driver is more advanced than nvidia

20:05:42 jurov: but maybe rms had in mind sometihng else

20:05:50 pankkake: well that's pretty normal. the ati one has paid amd devs behind it and they release specs

20:06:09 pankkake: oh, that rms picture is very old

20:06:24 pankkake: things changed a lot since then

20:06:39 pankkake: nivida does not release code or specs

20:06:57 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 497 @ 0.00247 = 1.2276 BTC [+]

20:07:39 pankkake: now it's http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/v40g6.gif

20:08:16 mircea_popescu: pankkake i wonder if it was typeset with latex

20:08:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 13 @ 0.00247 = 0.0321 BTC [+]

20:08:48 pankkake: why? :o

20:09:27 mircea_popescu: just so lol

20:13:27 mircea_popescu: and for our daily plato read,

20:13:29 mircea_popescu: the earth, as being their mother, delivered them, and now, as if their land were their mother and their nurse, they ought to take thought for her and defend her against any attack, and regard the other citizens as their brothers and children of the self-same earth. . . While all of you, in the city, are brothers, we will say in our tale, yet god, in fashioning those of you who are fitted to hold rule, mingled gold in t

20:13:29 mircea_popescu: heir generation, for which reason they are the most precious ? but in the helpers, silver, and iron and brass in the farmers and other craftsmen. And, as you are all akin, though for the most part you will breed after your kinds, it may sometimes happen that a golden father would beget a silver son, and that a golden offspring would come from a silver sire, and that the rest would, in like manner, be born of one anot

20:13:30 mircea_popescu: her. So that the first and chief injunction that the god lays upon the rulers is that of nothing else are they to be such careful guardians, and so intently observant as of the intermixture of these metals in the souls of their offspring, and if sons are born to them with an infusion of brass or iron they shall by no means give way to pity in their treatment of them, but shall assign to each the status due to his natur

20:13:35 mircea_popescu: e and thrust them out among the artisans or the farmers. And again, if from these there is born a son with unexpected gold or silver in his composition they shall honor such and bid them go up higher, some to the office of guardian, some to the assistanceship, alleging that there is an oracle that the city shall then be overthrown when the man of iron or brass is its guardian.

20:14:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0008012 BTC [-]

20:16:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 53 @ 0.002479 = 0.1314 BTC [+]

20:16:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 50 @ 0.002479 = 0.124 BTC [+]

20:16:47 jurov: now only if we had densitometer for characters

20:17:59 jurov: or densimeter

20:20:13 jurov: lol "dense character" would be a compliment in plato's eyes then

20:21:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00088649 = 0.8865 BTC [+]

20:23:18 mircea_popescu: lol ya. "hey pal, you're fucken dense"

20:34:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 96 @ 0.003478 = 0.3339 BTC [+]

20:34:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 98 @ 0.003477 = 0.3407 BTC [-]

20:34:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 652 @ 0.003479 = 2.2683 BTC [+]

20:35:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 98 @ 0.003479 = 0.3409 BTC [+]

20:38:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00088794 = 1.9979 BTC [+]

20:41:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.001145 = 0.1145 BTC [+]

20:47:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 1 @ 0.01209 BTC [-]

20:48:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+]

20:49:50 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 5 @ 0.00248 = 0.0124 BTC [+]

20:54:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1185 @ 0.00114 = 1.3509 BTC [-]

20:58:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 20 @ 0.01209 = 0.2418 BTC [-]

20:59:20 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 2 @ 0.000642 = 0.0013 BTC [+]

21:00:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.00248 = 0.248 BTC [+]

21:00:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 50 @ 0.00248 = 0.124 BTC [+]

21:03:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.VIRTUALMINE] 22 @ 0.000642 = 0.0141 BTC [+]

21:08:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 97 @ 0.002489 = 0.2414 BTC [+]

21:17:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 358 @ 0.00248 = 0.8878 BTC [-]

21:18:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 34 @ 0.00248 = 0.0843 BTC [-]

21:19:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 500 @ 0.003479 = 1.7395 BTC [+]

21:20:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.00241 = 0.0241 BTC [-]

21:23:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 3 @ 0.01209 = 0.0363 BTC [-]

21:28:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003995 = 0.04 BTC [-]

21:28:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 95 @ 0.003996 = 0.3796 BTC [+]

21:29:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 150 @ 0.003996 = 0.5994 BTC [+]

21:35:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02087 = 0.2087 BTC [+]

21:35:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00088649 = 4.8757 BTC [-]

21:35:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.02087 = 0.2087 BTC [+]

21:37:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.02087 = 0.1044 BTC [+]

21:41:23 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003423 = 0.0685 BTC [-]

21:41:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003422 = 0.0171 BTC [-]

21:41:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 907 @ 0.00341 = 3.0929 BTC [-]

21:48:52 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.01 = 0.14 BTC [+]

21:49:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.0007851 = 0.0024 BTC [-]

21:51:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 1 @ 0.003996 BTC [+]

21:51:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 22 @ 0.003996 = 0.0879 BTC [+]

21:54:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 477 @ 0.003996 = 1.9061 BTC [+]

21:54:24 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 208 @ 0.003411 = 0.7095 BTC [+]

21:54:26 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 96 @ 0.00341 = 0.3274 BTC [-]

21:55:25 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 30 @ 0.01209 = 0.3627 BTC [-]

21:58:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 222 @ 0.002499 = 0.5548 BTC [+]

21:59:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 140 @ 0.0025 = 0.35 BTC [+]

22:01:16 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.02085 = 0.5213 BTC [-]

22:01:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 103 @ 0.02086 = 2.1486 BTC [+]

22:04:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00088649 = 3.3687 BTC [-]

22:06:05 mircea_popescu: is it me or has bitcointalk pretty much degenerated into five scammers talking to each other through > 100 sockpuppets ?

22:07:53 assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 2 @ 0.6598 = 1.3196 BTC [-]

22:08:22 tyrion70: which 5 are those?

22:08:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [PETA-MINE] 6 @ 0.6599 = 3.9594 BTC [+]

22:09:25 mircea_popescu: well that's an arbitrary determination, you can name them alpha, bravo, cunt, delta and echo

22:10:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 1.118 BTC [-]

22:10:19 tyrion70: hehe

22:10:41 tyrion70: *wonders who cunt is.. haven't seen charlie for a while :p

22:11:24 mircea_popescu: :p

22:13:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1195 BTC [+]

22:13:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1600 @ 0.001091 = 1.7456 BTC [-]

22:13:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.00109 = 0.3815 BTC [-]

22:13:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 500 @ 0.00108 = 0.54 BTC [-]

22:13:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 50 @ 0.00107 = 0.0535 BTC [-]

22:14:49 tyrion70: what do u make of these 200TH ups and downs the last few days

22:14:51 tyrion70: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-2k.png

22:15:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 47 @ 0.00253 = 0.1189 BTC [+]

22:15:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.002579 = 0.2579 BTC [+]

22:15:06 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0026 = 0.26 BTC [+]

22:15:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 150 @ 0.002753 = 0.413 BTC [+]

22:15:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 160 @ 0.002754 = 0.4406 BTC [+]

22:15:10 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 79 @ 0.0028 = 0.2212 BTC [+]

22:15:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 25 @ 0.0028 = 0.07 BTC [+]

22:15:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 41 @ 0.0028 = 0.1148 BTC [+]

22:15:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.00295 = 0.295 BTC [+]

22:15:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 510 @ 0.002985 = 1.5224 BTC [+]

22:15:28 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 16 @ 0.002999 = 0.048 BTC [+]

22:15:31 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.003 = 0.03 BTC [+]

22:15:32 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.003 = 0.03 BTC [+]

22:15:33 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [+]

22:15:35 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 73 @ 0.00306 = 0.2234 BTC [+]

22:15:36 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 48 @ 0.0031 = 0.1488 BTC [+]

22:15:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0031 = 0.31 BTC [+]

22:15:38 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 11 @ 0.0031 = 0.0341 BTC [+]

22:15:39 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1000 @ 0.00315 = 3.15 BTC [+]

22:15:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 393 @ 0.00319 = 1.2537 BTC [+]

22:15:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 30 @ 0.0032 = 0.096 BTC [+]

22:15:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0032 = 0.32 BTC [+]

22:15:42 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 100 @ 0.0032 = 0.32 BTC [+]

22:16:57 wogwog: after reading this thread, i think i can safely say I won't be using BitBet again

22:16:58 wogwog: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289316.0

22:17:04 ozbot: BitBet incorrectly declares yes to a no bet. Stay Away from BitBet!

22:17:18 wogwog: wow. can't belive they totally scammed the no betters on that one... it clearly should have been a no

22:18:26 wogwog: also, is it true that Anduck bribed bitbet for them to vote yes?

22:18:30 pankkake: you're bad

22:18:33 Anduck: what?

22:18:33 pankkake: so bad

22:18:34 mircea_popescu: lol

22:18:39 Anduck: wogwog: yes

22:18:41 mircea_popescu: ahaha

22:18:53 pankkake: 0/10

22:19:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 1.015 = 2.03 BTC [-]

22:19:12 Anduck: what the duck is problem with these guys? it was about delivering and they delivered!! and they delivered the advertised hashrate at advertised performance. end of

22:19:13 mircea_popescu: here's a tip you wannabe you : next time you want to sock, use a different https://www.projecthoneypot.org/ip_79.129.41.134

22:19:14 pankkake: not even able to change his ip

22:19:22 mircea_popescu: honeypotted ip than the one you normally log from.

22:19:36 mircea_popescu: Anduck basically it's some btc noob trying his "i can do anything" muscles.

22:19:55 wogwog: my nick in the thread is 'Luke-Jr'

22:20:21 mircea_popescu: Sep 07 02:12:05 <gribble> Nick 'fractal', with hostmask 'fractal!4f812986@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.41.134', is not identified.

22:20:23 wogwog: i'll personally keep posting to that thread... i suggest you guys keep posting too, the more it gets bumped to the top of the gambling forum the better, more exposure so that innocent betters will be saved

22:20:35 wogwog: mp: can't belive you spent time looking up my ip. it was obvious from the first 3 messages

22:20:38 wogwog: lol

22:20:42 mircea_popescu: herp.

22:20:45 wogwog: derp.

22:20:50 Anduck: why dont you use the nick "fractal" we all know

22:21:09 mircea_popescu: Anduck because he's a junior in psychology and that's what the book of reversal says

22:21:17 Anduck: fine...

22:21:21 Luke-Jr: look up IP? it says right there when you join..

22:21:29 Luke-Jr: [22:16:24] --> wogwog has joined this channel (4f812986@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.129.41.134).

22:21:31 wogwog: Anduck: because i use a different nick every time i log in here. also, i have respected identities in the bitcoin community. and dont need to ruin them with trollfests and conspiracy theories

22:21:50 pankkake: wogwog: any respected client (i.e. no web irc crap) shows hostmasks of people who join

22:21:51 Luke-Jr: so you admit this is a trollfest and conspiracy theory.

22:22:14 wogwog: Luke-Jr: the trollfest is not me. its the yes betters and yourself

22:22:25 mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr he doesn't know that cause webirc doesn't show em iirc

22:22:26 tyrion70: *opens the popcorn*

22:22:30 wogwog: Luke-Jr: you've clearly been trolling me since its totally illogical for you to think that 2 units == 1 unit

22:23:27 wogwog: only a troll would try to convince people that 2 units == 1 unit

22:23:48 Anduck: wogwog: nobody ever said 1 unit = 1 m-board with 16 hboards!!!

22:24:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00107 = 0.0107 BTC [-]

22:24:26 Anduck: no no no no no

22:24:26 wogwog: Anduck: punin did.

22:24:26 Anduck: well uhh did not

22:24:26 wogwog: yes he did

22:24:26 wogwog: check the forum post

22:24:26 pankkake: actually it is irrelevant

22:24:26 wogwog: he called the 400Gh unit a unit

22:24:27 wogwog: said it underperforms

22:24:33 wogwog: and he'd have to ship out more hardware

22:24:36 Anduck: dude you tried to get easy money by betting on a result you "knew" and were 100% sure. and you failed.. and now you whine, right?

22:24:50 tyrion70: *enjoys the deja ecrit*

22:25:06 wogwog: no. i'm spreading the truth. that the bet was fraudlenty passed as yes

22:25:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0206 = 1.03 BTC [-]

22:25:23 wogwog: it did not meet performance stats

22:25:36 Luke-Jr: Anduck: he must be trying to set a record for most epic fail

22:25:40 pankkake: but what is relevant, about this discussion: http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/no.gif

22:26:26 wogwog: Luke-Jr: the only epic fail is that you can't read. you think 2 units == 1 unit

22:27:05 mircea_popescu: wogwog you srsly don't need to worry, nobody respects noagendamarket/etc either.

22:27:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 2.188 BTC [-]

22:27:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.0206 = 0.1854 BTC [-]

22:27:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 300 @ 0.0206 = 6.18 BTC [-]

22:27:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6345 @ 0.00088737 = 5.6304 BTC [+]

22:27:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00088794 = 3.3742 BTC [+]

22:27:56 assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.008201 = 0.0246 BTC [-]

22:27:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.000888 = 3.5964 BTC [+]

22:27:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 699 @ 0.00088829 = 0.6209 BTC [+]

22:28:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 260 @ 0.00109999 = 0.286 BTC [+]

22:28:23 Anduck: wogwog: unit can be a group of units

22:28:36 Anduck: wogwog: you need to read the whole thread you started. it's got pretty valid points there

22:28:36 wogwog: pankkake: you're pretty bad at not feeding the troll

22:28:45 jurov: if punin really limited the unit to 1 m-board with 16 hboards, he'd ship it that way

22:28:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2630 @ 0.0011 = 2.893 BTC [+]

22:28:53 wogwog: pankkake: you think that thread is a troll, but you keep posting

22:28:56 wogwog: lol

22:28:58 jurov: but he did not

22:29:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 1 @ 0.0011 BTC [+]

22:29:22 wogwog: truth is you know its not a troll. its logic.

22:29:23 pankkake: yeah my posting call for ignoring your antics

22:29:31 wogwog: jurov: the 400Gh unit does not exist.

22:30:16 jurov: neither does your 1 m-board with 16 hboards

22:30:20 jurov: you can't order it

22:30:33 wogwog: jurov: yes you can order it

22:30:43 wogwog: pankkake: too bad you were outed as a paid shrill/troll

22:30:45 wogwog: jurov: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/

22:30:46 Anduck: wogwog: but seriously. you lost the bet, deal with it. think about it like you tried to get advantage of the wording of the bet and failed. http://www.wallchan.com/images/mediums/30784.jpg

22:30:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1193 = 0.2386 BTC [-]

22:31:08 pankkake: wogwog: there is nothing to "out" as it's public

22:31:52 jurov: wogwog: so do order it and then demostrate the hw you got does not match advertised performance

22:31:54 mircea_popescu: pankkake anyone actually paid you yet ?

22:32:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1193 = 0.2386 BTC [-]

22:33:05 wogwog_: Anduck. I didn't bet. I'm just defending the NO side.

22:33:10 pankkake: mircea_popescu: no :(

22:33:22 wogwog_: You've just assumed that I bet.

22:33:23 pankkake: but I don't get anything I can actually fullfil

22:33:28 mircea_popescu: you suck!

22:33:45 dexX7: yesterday i asked about how much you invested and you mentioned that it's negatable, thus i believe your goal is not to be reimbursed, so i ask: what is your goal? being annoying as much as you can?

22:33:51 pankkake: my dream of getting paid to insult people isn't working

22:33:59 mircea_popescu: all the other trolls out there are making five figures out of dorking it out on the webs all day

22:34:03 mircea_popescu: /sarcasm

22:34:32 pankkake: paid shills on the internet are a fact though. the European Union got caught doing it

22:34:52 mircea_popescu: pankkake supposedly making money spamming is also a fact. tenouous as it may sound.

22:35:03 mircea_popescu: nevertheless most spammers do it for something between free and nothing at all.

22:35:09 pankkake: paid papers published too - I knew a guy who did that. what he wrote wasn't *wrong* though, nor lies

22:35:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1193 BTC [-]

22:35:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00088649 = 3.28 BTC [-]

22:35:26 wogwog_: dexX7: my goal is that people acknowledge that the bet was incorrectly labelled yes. the 400Gh unit only does 365Gh. it did not meet advertised performance. the bet is a no.

22:35:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9616 @ 0.00088589 = 8.5187 BTC [-]

22:35:31 pankkake: I wouldn't do something I would consider unethical (like spamming, lying)

22:35:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00088585 = 2.9233 BTC [-]

22:35:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 284 @ 0.00088452 = 0.2512 BTC [-]

22:35:49 mircea_popescu: just sayin', the things that anyone can do aren't usually paid.

22:35:55 wogwog_: by the way, i'm not integrty42. tho i'm glad someone made a forum post regarding this........

22:35:59 dexX7: but you do realize that coming here with different nicks and starting hate threads on btctalk is probably not the best way to achive this goal?

22:36:02 pankkake: sure

22:36:21 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.1194 = 0.2388 BTC [+]

22:36:23 pankkake: it's a question of time, that's what I tried to advertise in my offer: some guy is dumb on the internet and you're busy? here I am!

22:36:42 pankkake: and there's chances I will not rage while he will

22:36:55 mircea_popescu: pankkake but he's too raged out to realise this.

22:36:55 wogwog_: dexX7: this is all noise -- as long as the facts are laid out -- the unit did not perform as advertised -- thats what matters

22:37:08 mircea_popescu: why do you think people "invest" their own bitdust, and do their own plumbing ?

22:37:12 wogwog_: pankkake is more enraged then i am.

22:37:23 wogwog_: pankkake loves me and the thread. i am his reason for living.

22:37:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.0011 = 0.099 BTC [+]

22:37:48 pankkake: investing bitdust is fun - to a point, now it's wasting my time

22:38:12 pankkake: wogwog_: I have like 10 average continuous trollings in my life

22:38:20 wogwog_: pankkake: the second you replied to a thing i said, you wasted your time.... you'll never get it back

22:38:49 pankkake: I'm guilty of doing my own plumbing, too, I'm a thinkerer

22:39:26 wogwog_: pankkake: lets talk about that for a minute. think of the time you wasted because of me.... just think about it. you could have spent it reading a book, bettering yourself... enjoying the outdoors, getting laid...... yet. you spent it on me.

22:39:27 mircea_popescu: kinda how it goes. people start a game of mudbitcoin, it's fun cause it's so wtf. that last a while, then it wears off, then they lose interest.

22:39:40 wogwog_: thats a pretty powerful connection we have, the two of us

22:39:41 Anduck: wogwog_: but in the thread you said you bet no and lost????

22:39:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1196 BTC [+]

22:40:01 Anduck: wogwog_: since after all, you _are_ fractal and the starter of the thread

22:40:02 pankkake: wogwog_: my activity is high right now because I have free time to do only dumb things, sadly

22:40:09 wogwog_: wogwog_: i'm not integrtiy42... i told you.

22:40:10 pankkake: I'd rather write code but can't

22:40:19 Anduck: wogwog_: but you are?

22:40:24 wogwog_: Anduck: nope

22:40:27 Anduck: but you are?

22:40:34 wogwog_: nope

22:40:38 Anduck: ...but you are

22:40:45 wogwog_: nope

22:40:45 Anduck: dude you ARE

22:40:47 wogwog_: nope

22:40:49 Anduck: you talk like him and you have same statements

22:40:53 Anduck: dooont lie

22:40:56 wogwog_: nope

22:41:00 pankkake: but fractal is integrity42

22:41:04 pankkake: and you're fractal

22:41:10 pankkake: logic!

22:41:13 wogwog_: nope

22:41:13 pankkake: defeat!

22:41:46 mircea_popescu: lol

22:43:05 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.0209 BTC [+]

22:43:11 wogwog_: Anduck: if someone uses the same statements as me, they must have been reading this chat, and think that i have good points to make.

22:43:11 wogwog_: not surprising,

22:43:11 dexX7: wogwog_: more: the bet stated "Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W)" and not "25 GH/s PER unit 40W" => unit is not used as measuring unit, but as label (e.g. "the product "25 gh/s miner" has to perform at > 25 gh/s & < 1 w / gh/s")

22:43:11 mircea_popescu: we should make a bet on fractal's bet site as to whether bitcoin.oz using the same ip as wogwog and fractal makes it the same unit or not.

22:43:11 wogwog_: dexX7: the 25GH unit performed as advertised, since they could add another H-card... but that isnt possible with the 400Gh unit

22:43:11 wogwog_: dexX7: the 25Gh unit passed!

22:43:11 wogwog_: if the bet was 25Gh unit, it was a yes

22:43:11 dexX7: it's not about the cards

22:43:18 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.02095 = 0.0419 BTC [+]

22:43:23 wogwog_: dexX7: its about the definition of the term 'unit'

22:43:40 dexX7: correct

22:44:02 Anduck: wogwog_: so you want to change the bet "bitfury will ship on time and deliver the performance they said" to "no" because of wording or definition of "unit" ?

22:44:03 Anduck: duuuude

22:44:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 15 @ 0.00406 = 0.0609 BTC [+]

22:44:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.02095 BTC [+]

22:44:57 pankkake: the best that could have happened is a cancellation

22:45:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 9 @ 0.1196 = 1.0764 BTC [+]

22:45:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1193 BTC [-]

22:45:05 dexX7: wogwog_: "400 GH/s unit 400W" what does that mean in a simple sentence?

22:45:14 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003474 = 0.0104 BTC [+]

22:45:21 wogwog_: dexX7: it means the unit must be over 400Gh and under 400W

22:45:24 assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.C101N] 5 @ 0.64848614 = 3.2424 BTC [+]

22:45:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 4 @ 0.00406 = 0.0162 BTC [+]

22:45:28 wogwog_: it wasn't over 400Gh. it was 365Gh

22:45:37 assbot: [MPEX] [O.USD.P101N] 5 @ 0.53553951 = 2.6777 BTC [-]

22:46:06 wogwog_: theres a picture of the unit on the thread. go look with your eyes. thats what a unit is

22:46:17 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 5 @ 0.01209 = 0.0605 BTC [-]

22:46:58 dexX7: which unit?

22:47:19 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 9 @ 0.003474 = 0.0313 BTC [+]

22:47:33 dexX7: could it be that "400 gh/s unit" is the product?

22:47:35 Anduck: pankkake: there was no reason for cancellation.. that or "no" would've been just wrong.

22:47:37 wogwog_: this unit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.msg3050985#msg3050985

22:47:54 Anduck: says you.

22:47:58 dexX7: aha

22:48:01 wogwog_: Anduck: no. says punin.

22:48:04 pankkake: Anduck: the reason "fractal would shut up" would be enough IMHO :p

22:48:26 wogwog_: Anduck: out of punins mouth "We can't deliver 400Gh in 1 unit" -- paraphrase

22:48:33 wogwog_: his quote is on the thread

22:48:34 pankkake: I'm saying the *best* in the sense of fractal, not mine - I think it's a No

22:48:45 pankkake: I mean Yes

22:48:46 pankkake: fuck

22:48:46 pankkake: lol

22:49:07 Anduck: hmmm

22:49:29 wogwog_: guys, punin himself admitted the '400Gh unit' doesn't do 400Gh... i dont know what else to say....

22:49:47 Anduck: but really betting at a bitbet because of "knowing the outcome" and in the thoughts of "easy 100% sure money".... lol

22:50:04 mircea_popescu: well that often doesn't pan out.

22:50:17 mircea_popescu: it's more likely for the subject to have misunderstood something than for the entire world to have.

22:51:17 wogwog_: Anduck: I didn't know the outcome. punin could have fixed the 400Gh unit and shipped it by sept 1.

22:51:24 wogwog_: and I would have lost

22:52:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00088452 = 5.8378 BTC [-]

22:52:04 Anduck: if he says "our h-cards are underperforming.".................

22:52:16 Anduck: and you expect that there might be a fix for that coming in 5 days or so?

22:52:22 Anduck: dude admit it

22:52:25 Anduck: you tried to benefit it

22:52:28 wogwog_: Anduck: he said the 400Gh unit doesn't do 400Gh.

22:52:36 Anduck: he said 16 h-cards don't do it

22:52:44 wogwog_: Anduck: if its just a resistor to change , then its easy to fix and ship in 5 days

22:52:51 Anduck: (which, btw now do 380 or 375 ghash already)

22:52:52 wogwog_: or maybe even a software firmware issue

22:53:00 Anduck: wogwog_: it's not really easy change.....

22:53:00 wogwog_: 380 < 400

22:53:09 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 2 @ 0.0025 = 0.005 BTC [-]

22:53:17 Anduck: thousands of boards and the changing of the resistor is hard

22:53:32 Anduck: plus it ducks up the efficiency part a bit

22:53:39 Anduck: they're made to be as energy efficient as possible

22:53:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.0011 = 0.011 BTC [+]

22:54:22 wogwog_: Anduck: regardless, its possible, which means i didn't know the outcome. they only had to fix and ship 1 to for the bet to be a yes. although at least i think that you are starting to admit that a unit is 1M-board

22:54:47 wogwog_: Anduck: also, bitbet says that bets aren't cancelled even if it becomes impossible to win. its in the FAQ.

22:54:58 wogwog_: Anduck: so you take that risk when betting

22:55:14 Anduck: yeah yeah

22:55:33 Anduck: but since you dont even admit of being the starter of the thread...

22:55:44 Anduck: and i've made clear what i think a unit means....

22:55:54 Anduck: it's really not worth the discussion, right?

22:57:12 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 100 @ 0.01209 = 1.209 BTC [-]

22:57:33 wogwog_: if you don't think so, feel free to stop discussing

22:57:58 wogwog_: hopefully punin will clearly define what a 'unit' is and put this to rest

22:58:16 wogwog_: i'll be monitoring the thread for that.

22:58:53 Luke-Jr: punin's definition of a unit has no bearing on the bet

22:58:56 wogwog_: haha pankkake keeps posting in that thread... he thinkts the thread is a troll, but he keeps posting

22:59:16 pankkake: I don't understand your point

22:59:27 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003917 = 0.047 BTC [-]

22:59:28 wogwog_: Luke-Jr: it does, because he is bitfurystrikesback.com , which is where the performance of the unit was advertised -- and the bet states it must follow the advertised performance

22:59:35 wogwog_: Luke-Jr: read english

22:59:42 Luke-Jr: performance, not "unit definition"

22:59:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 12 @ 0.003916 = 0.047 BTC [-]

22:59:53 wogwog_: performance of the unit...

22:59:57 wogwog_: which is 1M-board

23:00:13 Luke-Jr: the bet did not define it as a 1M-board

23:00:21 wogwog_: but the website did

23:00:27 Luke-Jr: the website is not part of the bet

23:00:28 wogwog_: which is why the bet says 'as advertsied'

23:00:30 dexX7: no, you did

23:00:31 wogwog_: yes it is!!!!! lol

23:00:34 wogwog_: read the bet

23:00:40 mircea_popescu: i hope fractal makes the 0% site so i can make a bet about which bitbet bet will next take up all the fucking chan space on -assets.

23:00:51 wogwog_: Bitfurystrikesback.com (Bitfury EU reseller) will ship their 25 and 400 gigahash mining units before 1st of September 2013. Devices must meet advertised performance (25 GH/s unit 40W, 400 GH/s unit 400W) in order to be accepted as valid. Atleast 5 deliveries confirmed by respected members of the community required.

23:01:07 wogwog_: 'must meet advertised performance' and 400Gh UNIT

23:01:19 wogwog_: http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/

23:01:20 wogwog_: which is this

23:01:24 Luke-Jr: wogwog_: go back the the dictionary

23:01:25 wogwog_: damn Luke-Jr , i thought you could read man

23:01:37 Luke-Jr: that link does not use the term "unit" anywhere

23:01:48 wogwog_: miner == unit

23:01:58 Luke-Jr: that's not what my dictionary says

23:02:21 wogwog_: thats what the bet says

23:02:40 Luke-Jr: nope

23:03:03 wogwog_: Luke-Jr: yes.

23:03:17 pankkake: the only good thing a dictionnary would be for now is bashing wogwog's head

23:03:31 wogwog_: man, its funny, you guys think i'm trolling.... but if i was, you keep feeding the troll. why not just admit you're wrong?

23:03:33 Luke-Jr: the bet did not define "unit" at all

23:03:45 Luke-Jr: it simply said that the 400 Gh must be 400 W or better

23:03:45 wogwog_: pankkake: thats not nice. you're not a nice person.

23:03:50 wogwog_: pankkake: that statement proves that you're a bad person and are likely a paid shill

23:04:05 wogwog_: Luke-Jr: no it didn't

23:04:14 Luke-Jr: the term "unit" used in the bet infers that those who paid for that item got 400 Gh/s running under 400 W

23:04:17 Luke-Jr: they did

23:04:28 wogwog_: no it doesn't

23:04:33 Luke-Jr: does

23:04:41 wogwog_: does not

23:04:49 Luke-Jr: now stop being a retard and shut up

23:05:08 wogwog_: the term unit in the bet refers to this http://www.bitfurystrikesback.com/product/400gh-miner-october-2013/

23:05:15 wogwog_: its right there on the forums

23:05:20 wogwog_: he's the one who runs the company

23:05:20 wogwog_: he says that the 400Gh UNIT underperforms

23:05:31 wogwog_: you basically can't come to terms with the fact that you're wrong. its amazing.

23:05:42 thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX

23:05:42 assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 195.15803475 / 195.15803475 (4 shares, 1.65 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)

23:05:44 wogwog_: 2 Units != 1 Unit

23:05:47 pankkake: wogwog_: I intend to get paid writing valid arguments, talking about dictionnaries on your head wouldn't be very good

23:06:12 pankkake: unless my client would want you to get MAD

23:07:27 Luke-Jr: pankkake: also, didn't your troll-for-hire thread say you refused to use your own identity with the trolling?

23:07:52 pankkake: yes, as I point repeatedly :(

23:08:40 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 38 @ 0.003916 = 0.1488 BTC [-]

23:08:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [ACTIVEMINING] 10 @ 0.003902 = 0.039 BTC [-]

23:10:09 Luke-Jr: pankkake: btw, have you ever been hired to troll me?

23:10:33 pankkake: no, lol

23:10:37 Luke-Jr: surprising

23:10:53 pankkake: but here is a little troll: you interact with me already with another identity

23:11:00 Luke-Jr: I guess the people who hate me are already trolls on their own, so they don't need to hire one <.<

23:11:09 pankkake: (if you ever guess it, don't guess it in public, it's my real name)

23:11:15 Luke-Jr: lol

23:11:26 Anduck: wogwog?

23:11:43 Anduck: that would be ducked up situation right

23:12:00 Luke-Jr: XD

23:12:02 pankkake: Yes I am Dr. Wogwog Dombalog, King of the Blululus

23:12:07 assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 7 @ 0.0007851 = 0.0055 BTC [-]

23:12:08 assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.0007851 = 0.0039 BTC [-]

23:12:28 Anduck: ohh i know the blululus guis

23:13:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 8 @ 0.003474 = 0.0278 BTC [+]

23:13:45 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 5 @ 0.003475 = 0.0174 BTC [+]

23:13:46 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 3 @ 0.003478 = 0.0104 BTC [+]

23:13:47 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 180 @ 0.003478 = 0.626 BTC [+]

23:13:48 Luke-Jr: pankkake: did I meet you at the conference?

23:13:59 pankkake: no, only online

23:14:11 pankkake: haven't met any famous bitcoiner yet :(

23:14:13 assbot: [BTCTC] [NASTY-PT] 2 @ 0.001875 = 0.0038 BTC [-]

23:14:19 mircea_popescu: twist: pankkake is a gurl.

23:14:21 pankkake: and I usually meet as pankkake

23:14:35 pankkake: mircea_popescu: I wish! I would just whore myself for bitcoins

23:14:49 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 7 @ 0.003479 = 0.0244 BTC [+]

23:14:53 pankkake: Isn't mircea's a girl name?

23:14:59 pankkake: -'s

23:15:09 mircea_popescu: well it's certainly becoming one these days, what with that american starlet.

23:15:20 mircea_popescu: but otherwise it's a thousand old male name.

23:15:28 mircea_popescu: +year

23:15:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1 @ 0.003479 BTC [+]

23:15:57 pankkake: the -a is confusing, it usually hints female

23:16:21 Luke-Jr: pankkake: it's because he uses a female avatar on bitcointroll

23:16:31 mircea_popescu: that actually is a girl.

23:16:37 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 1 @ 0.009795 BTC [-]

23:17:51 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 10 @ 0.002895 = 0.029 BTC [+]

23:20:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 4 @ 0.009795 = 0.0392 BTC [-]

23:20:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.SELLING] 50 @ 0.009796 = 0.4898 BTC [+]

23:21:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 466 @ 0.00088452 = 0.4122 BTC [-]

23:21:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4584 @ 0.0008842 = 4.0532 BTC [-]

23:22:55 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 5 @ 0.01209 = 0.0605 BTC [-]

23:24:11 Namworld: Who are famous bitcoiners?

23:25:34 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 50 @ 0.01209 = 0.6045 BTC [-]

23:25:41 Luke-Jr: me apparently

23:25:51 pankkake: haha

23:26:11 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 1 @ 0.002504 BTC [-]

23:26:44 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 4 @ 0.002502 = 0.01 BTC [-]

23:27:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 45 @ 0.002502 = 0.1126 BTC [-]

23:27:39 pankkake: well I had in mind guys behind known services/software; for example the bitcoin-central guys are living pretty close to me I think

23:28:00 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 20 @ 0.003412 = 0.0682 BTC [-]

23:28:01 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 1000 @ 0.003411 = 3.411 BTC [-]

23:28:02 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 738 @ 0.003403 = 2.5114 BTC [-]

23:28:03 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 308 @ 0.003402 = 1.0478 BTC [-]

23:28:04 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 120 @ 0.003381 = 0.4057 BTC [-]

23:30:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00088829 = 3.8196 BTC [+]

23:30:58 Anduck: u live in france?

23:31:29 pankkake: yes

23:32:34 Anduck: french always loses wars

23:32:39 pankkake: and love complaining

23:32:51 Anduck: u know france has lost like 1 war?

23:32:53 Anduck: =P

23:33:01 pankkake: won, you mean?

23:33:04 Anduck: but people only remembers WWII

23:33:13 Anduck: no, they've lost just WWII

23:33:15 assbot: [BTCTC] [LABCOIN] 607 @ 0.003361 = 2.0401 BTC [-]

23:33:21 Anduck: pretty much every other war they've won

23:33:34 Anduck: but people remembers france as a loser country

23:34:14 Luke-Jr: France sucks anymore

23:34:53 Luke-Jr: French Revolution on onward especially, France is like one of the worst countries of all time

23:34:59 pankkake: well, there's Algeria

23:37:34 pankkake: French people who are proud of Napolean disgust me

23:38:20 pankkake: I'd rather lose wars

23:38:30 assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.1198 BTC [+]

23:38:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00107 = 0.2675 BTC [-]

23:38:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.001066 = 0.4264 BTC [-]

23:38:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.001065 = 0.0213 BTC [-]

23:38:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 10 @ 0.00106001 = 0.0106 BTC [-]

23:39:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.00106 = 0.0212 BTC [-]

23:39:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 25 @ 0.00105501 = 0.0264 BTC [-]

23:39:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 350 @ 0.001055 = 0.3693 BTC [-]

23:39:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 666 @ 0.00105026 = 0.6995 BTC [-]

23:39:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 20 @ 0.0010501 = 0.021 BTC [-]

23:39:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 25 @ 0.00105002 = 0.0263 BTC [-]

23:39:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 90 @ 0.00105001 = 0.0945 BTC [-]

23:39:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] 2124 @ 0.00105 = 2.2302 BTC [-]

23:39:26 pankkake: http://www.connexionfrance.com/American-French-stereotype-TF1-prejudice-top-10-14195-view-article.html

23:39:41 assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [+]

23:39:43 assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3206 BTC [+]

23:39:59 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.MINING] 9 @ 0.002504 = 0.0225 BTC [+]

23:40:35 pankkake: 1 is true, 3 isn't at all and is very weird, 4 wine and cheese yes, others no

23:41:25 pankkake: 9 is very weird too. the only smelly people I meet are tourists and the homeless

23:42:32 Luke-Jr: pankkake: history aside, the laws suck bad

23:42:58 assbot: [BTCTC] [DMS.PURCHASE] 5 @ 0.01209 = 0.0605 BTC [-]

23:43:00 Luke-Jr: I would never live there as it is now

23:43:18 pankkake: I'm not really sure where to go

23:43:23 Luke-Jr: there is nowhere

23:43:25 pankkake: but we are headed for some dark times

23:43:32 Luke-Jr: the US is the best there is today, and it sucks pretty bad too

23:43:59 Luke-Jr: and if you try to make a new manmade isle, some existing governments will steal it

23:44:24 Luke-Jr: wish moon colonies were affordable

23:44:36 Luke-Jr: it'd be hard to bother us there

23:44:48 pankkake: I learned about the US gold confiscations, France is certainly gearing towards doing that, but there are signs in the US too - namely, preventing you from buying it anonymously

23:45:12 Luke-Jr: I already can't buy it anonymously, last I checked

23:45:16 benkay: to bitcoin, mes ami

23:45:35 pankkake: you can buy gold on silk road

23:45:35 Luke-Jr: benkay: unfortunately, governments could kill bitcoin overnight if they really wanted to

23:45:44 pankkake: didn't compare prices, it's likely expensive

23:45:45 jurov: best to buy some eastern european country

23:45:54 benkay: Luke-Jr: do go on.

23:45:57 jurov: or southern american, better climate

23:46:26 Luke-Jr: benkay: even with all the ASICs ordered online, it probably won't be even 0.1% of the defense budget of even small nations :/

23:47:26 benkay: true dat

23:47:36 benkay: let's stay under the radar for a little longer, shall we?

23:47:57 pankkake: or add proof of stake? ;)

23:48:09 benkay: i'm hoping to sell asic floor tile heaters at some point in the next decade

23:48:10 Luke-Jr: pankkake: there hasn't been a usable implementation done yet :/

23:48:44 benkay: as well as asic water heaters

23:48:48 benkay: and asic furnaces

23:49:01 pankkake: asic saunas

23:49:06 benkay: why not

23:49:14 benkay: great heat source

23:49:56 benkay: i'd ipo something idiotic sounding like ASICHEAT but then idiots would fund it and i'd have to go fucking deal with stuff

23:51:04 benkay: rent on next office is going to include utilities tho i tell you that

23:51:24 thestringpuller: ;;seen

23:51:25 gribble: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. <nick> may contain * as a wildcard.

23:51:30 thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles

23:51:30 gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 4 hours, 17 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <smickles> ;;ident

23:52:05 benkay: i've seriously been pondering doing a warehouse or a shittily insulated office and putting ASIC blades by every desk

23:52:17 benkay: "just run your heater"

23:52:21 benkay: "what if it's not cold?"

23:52:36 benkay: "..."

23:52:44 benkay: "run your heater."