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00:00:33 jurov: that kind of bug one wonders how the whole thing worked at all

00:00:53 mats: is it because multiple customers put orders in at the same time?

00:01:20 jurov: and at the same price

00:02:14 jurov: and trade between themselves :)

00:02:25 mats: i guess it worked because i was the only one with any volume for the longest time

00:03:25 jurov: not just that, mpex added a misfeature of randomly rejecting orders

00:03:44 jurov: sometime during the recent lull

00:05:10 mats: well, if its any consolation, there's a btc for your troubles when coinbr is up, i know you do a lot of pro bono work around here

00:06:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00072471 = 7.6457 BTC [-]

00:08:09 shinohai: One day when I actually have btc I need someone to show me the ropes on coinbr

00:11:28 jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263473 << thx for thumbsup but this is not related to current situation

00:11:28 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 00:33:21; Bingo_VACAY: Juriv seriously consider raising coinbr fees

00:12:50 oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/penpals/

00:12:51 assbot: Pen Pals ... ( http://bit.ly/1iqDRbA )

00:13:10 jurov: monthly/withdrawal fees already cause enough friction, pple made themselves heard

00:13:24 jurov: and the % .. maaybe someday

00:14:08 BingoBoingo: Ah, well

00:16:23 jurov: http://hugelolcdn.com/i460/352391.jpg for all the niggaz

00:16:23 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1iqE1jk )

00:21:32 shinohai: LOLZ jurov

00:22:50 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/eA9YX

00:22:51 assbot: Start a 'Grease Bucket Challenge' to raise awareness about obesity. : CrazyIdeas ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZPyMn )

00:30:45 mircea_popescu: lol pc frog

00:32:12 mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia.

00:32:31 mircea_popescu: however if you want the best of the best cafeteria food - that's level two! be positive online, move to san francisco!

00:32:59 mircea_popescu: hiring in the traditional sense has no bearing on all this. it's "hiring", as in, usg "hires" you to lap up the welfare faucet drippings.

00:33:26 mircea_popescu: on the plus side, you won't have any actual work to do, that sort where you could encounter and might have to overcome your own stupidity and general human limitations.

00:34:00 mircea_popescu: on the minus side, if you can do it for a year and not want to kill yourself every night, you'll know you're dumb. not even "not smart". outright dumb.

00:35:57 mircea_popescu: <punkman> when do we start making a browser? << noty.

00:37:52 shinohai: Ironically mircea_popescu, the hashbang guys wanted me to come to San Fran and work lol

00:38:15 mircea_popescu: aha

00:39:55 shinohai: I'd last about a week before I burnt the place down.

00:40:52 mircea_popescu: but to be fair : i also won't hire them if they've been stupid online.

00:40:55 shinohai: Or mybe I could sustain another workplace injury nd double my income.

00:41:01 mircea_popescu: so it's just where the wall is drawn.

00:41:34 mircea_popescu: either don't be stupid, if you can, or if you can't, then don't be negative. sorcerers in the celestial city. zombies in the zombie horde.

00:41:39 mircea_popescu: all things have a place and a place for all things.

00:43:01 shinohai: True. ^

00:45:54 shinohai: No one wants to be around someone that always projects negativity. But isn't there something to be said for honesty?

00:46:24 shinohai: If someone tells me my product sucks, and it genuinely sucks, perhaps I can use that feedback to not suck.

00:48:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00073841 = 17.4265 BTC [+] {3}

00:48:11 pete_dushenski: shinohai: coincidentally, i just saw this http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/business/smart-workers-seek-out-advice-study-suggests.html?src=me

00:48:14 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkiSEy )

00:48:20 mircea_popescu: that's not even the main point. the main point is that they abhor hierarchy, and want the world to be flat.

00:48:33 mircea_popescu: negative reinforcement is what your superiors do, and they can't have any.

00:49:45 mircea_popescu: so you know, if his product sucks tell him in such a way that it doesn't come out you're better than him, and he won't think you were "being negative"

00:50:15 mircea_popescu: all this derpage to assuage the fears and terrors of the 14yo mind already... it's kinda sad.

00:53:16 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264638 << 0.5% per trade is plenty.

00:53:16 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:13:24; jurov: and the % .. maaybe someday

00:53:47 pete_dushenski: dunno where BingoBoingo gets the idea that he's jurov's business development advisor now

00:55:10 *: pete_dushenski is a contented coinbr customer, downtown factored in

00:55:41 shinohai: I may be totally wrong, but I think it is foolhardy *not* to seek advice and varied viewpoints.

00:55:43 pete_dushenski: downtime*

00:56:15 pete_dushenski: shinohai: sure, but i didn't see jurov seeking advice here. maybe i missed this in the logs ?

00:56:55 pete_dushenski: !s hashbang

00:56:56 assbot: 5 results for 'hashbang' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hashbang

00:57:19 *: BingoBoingo just tossed out that suggestion

00:58:24 pete_dushenski: the equivalent being jurov telling qntra to put up a paywall because "make more skrillz!"

00:58:42 pete_dushenski: ;;ticker

00:58:43 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 242.36, Best ask: 242.37, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 242.37, 24 hour volume: 20324.8238345, 24 hour low: 235.75, 24 hour high: 248.48, 24 hour vwap: None

00:58:57 BingoBoingo: Would give that idea consideration

00:59:11 pete_dushenski: not saying you wouldn't

00:59:22 mats: i love drama

00:59:23 pete_dushenski: and maybe someday, we'll live to see it

00:59:49 pete_dushenski: mats: drama ? heh this little tickling ?

01:00:03 mats: your mom

01:00:44 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/PkBridv.jpg

01:00:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkjB8E )

01:02:48 pete_dushenski: speaking of qntra, it's coming up on its first bday, neh ?

01:02:54 pete_dushenski: october, wasn't it

01:03:02 BingoBoingo: it is

01:03:11 pete_dushenski: pretty sweet

01:04:19 pete_dushenski: and s.qntr has gone from 0.00013514 to 0.00039 !!!

01:04:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00072881 = 10.422 BTC [-]

01:04:36 pete_dushenski: http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-qntr/

01:04:37 assbot: S.QNTR Analysis - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkjY2Y )

01:07:36 pete_dushenski: "Eugenie Bouchard has pulled out of the US Open with a concussion. TSN has learned that Bouchard sustained the injury on Friday night when she tripped while walking from the training room to room where the ice bath is located." << go canada ;/

01:08:48 shinohai: Qntra ... Powered by the tears of reddit (tm)

01:11:04 pete_dushenski: and truth !

01:18:25 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264355 << if this doesn't encourage a few more kids to put their money where their mouths are, nothing will. now if they only had any money...

01:18:25 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:27:29; mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00541072 * 15000

01:22:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00072881 = 5.539 BTC [-]

01:27:20 pete_dushenski: bbl

01:36:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29155 @ 0.00073723 = 21.4939 BTC [+] {5}

01:42:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00073866 = 23.6371 BTC [+]

01:45:03 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264205 << win. where do i buy a ticket to the public impalement of the 'best practices' folks ?

01:45:03 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 19:55:05; shinohai: https://j.ludost.net/blog/archives/2015/09/05/rfc-2631_fips_186-3_and_openssls_implementation_of_dsa_appear_broken_and_possibly_backdoored/index.html

01:45:07 asciilifeform: that's what i wanna know

01:46:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264271 << checking TAKES AS LONG AS RECALCULATING

01:46:21 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 20:36:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263952 << understand, there's no hardware solution to this problem. you may make the probability less, but the only path to certainty is checking.

01:46:29 asciilifeform: because it ~is~ equivalent to recalculating !

01:46:59 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264281 << neato. kakobrekla, do you have it on your list ?

01:46:59 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 20:42:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263954 << is also online, running pressed stator.

01:47:52 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264312 << if you let the attach be mime/txt, line endings will be mutilated, aha.

01:47:52 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:10:03; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263972 << add to that, "never use known file extensions".

01:47:57 asciilifeform: Because It Can.

01:49:16 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264334 << tr0l0l0l, gold medal. can take off the walrus mask now - which one of you rascals was this.

01:49:16 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:18:13; anton_osika: So long. Thanks for the voice until I can become friends with phunctor.

01:50:08 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264370 << 'work' as in their presence must not make the thing blow up. atm, it does.

01:50:08 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:47:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264012 << why would either work ?!

01:51:26 mircea_popescu: aha

01:51:53 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264422 << completely useless for anything but static html. it simply happens to be where my site lives

01:51:53 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:17:52; mats: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net

01:52:15 asciilifeform: (you can't actually get a 24/7 unix process at n.f.s. - it's a plain old www hoster, 1990s-style)

01:52:29 asciilifeform: ~and~ it's american.

01:52:35 asciilifeform: prolly not of interest to anyone here.

01:53:23 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264440 << see above.

01:53:23 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:22:10; mats: in fact i think alf does?

01:54:18 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264443 << i don't expect to get anything out of this. or rather, i don't expect to see any of the things that i want, for the price i can afford. this requires broke, desperate americans selling to make rent. and i can't see them doing it on mircea_popescutron

01:54:18 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:22:48; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: unless you already have dark market connex, you might have to wait for mircea_popescu/trinque's new buy/sell board ;)

01:55:00 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264476 << same, l0l

01:55:00 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:31:46; mircea_popescu: incidentally /me hates that trait more than any other.

01:55:12 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264479 << holy fuck man what've you been smoking

01:55:13 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:31:55; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform also, 'order id 22472' would indicate that you have more available btc than rothschilds. who's poor now ? (and yes, i understand that no one will ever actually offer you 'taig' via -otc)

01:56:33 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264569 << it's that one bloke, every time. mr. misspell.

01:56:33 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:07:59; mircea_popescu: i dunno. oddly the stan brood never talks.

01:59:41 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264609 << this needs exposition work imho

01:59:41 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:46:21; mircea_popescu: ml also interesting for all the misdirection and denial work Peter Gutmann pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz sinks into the matter.

02:00:49 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264614 << note the standard slimeball blame shift to the folks who busted the bug vault, rather than the turds who collected and sat on the goodies for usgtronic purpose

02:00:49 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:56:11; assbot: Hackers spent at least a year spying on Mozilla to discover Firefox security holes – and exploit them • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1iqD4HV )

02:03:44 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264649 << where does my personal circle of hell fit into this dante inferno ? y'know, the one with work

02:03:44 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:33:26; mircea_popescu: on the plus side, you won't have any actual work to do, that sort where you could encounter and might have to overcome your own stupidity and general human limitations.

02:04:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264658 << omitted important elements, the zombie city and the celestial horde.

02:04:21 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:41:34; mircea_popescu: either don't be stupid, if you can, or if you can't, then don't be negative. sorcerers in the celestial city. zombies in the zombie horde.

02:04:29 *: asciilifeform in zombie city

02:04:36 *: asciilifeform moonlights in celestial horde

02:04:47 asciilifeform: wallowin' with the eagles.

02:05:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264661 << 'negative' there is codespeak for '#b-a and other thoughtcrimes'

02:05:21 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:45:54; shinohai: No one wants to be around someone that always projects negativity. But isn't there something to be said for honesty?

02:23:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00073866 = 3.0285 BTC [+]

02:31:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/a/GIDeo << i went there today. and this is how i imagine your old house looks like.

02:31:59 assbot: The Museum of Sleep-ad-Libitum ! - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1VHYo9U )

02:32:45 asciilifeform: five motherfucking stories of it.

02:32:47 mircea_popescu: ahaha no, those chairs suck

02:33:17 asciilifeform: there were perhaps 1,001 types of chair.

02:33:27 asciilifeform: from ludovic vii to aeron.

02:33:36 mircea_popescu: they all seem the same, but maybe just bad pic choice

02:34:04 asciilifeform: rooms had 'countries' theme - 'britain', 'russia', etc.

02:34:23 asciilifeform: with predominantly 19th c (or early to mid 20th in some cases) setting for each.

02:34:48 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264739 << there's always one of these precious "oh nothing happened lolz" derps mixing themselves in every discussion

02:34:48 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 01:59:41; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264609 << this needs exposition work imho

02:34:58 mircea_popescu: in this case, it was gutmann

02:35:00 asciilifeform: how else!

02:35:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16825 @ 0.00072652 = 12.2237 BTC [-] {3}

02:37:13 asciilifeform: i had never before been inside a hose half like that.

02:37:15 asciilifeform: it was brain-melting.

02:37:27 asciilifeform: ~THIS~ is how actual people lived.

02:37:27 mircea_popescu: re that "blame shift" : i wouldn't even say it's blame shift or anything. pure "us vs them" mentality. obama bombs some schools ? YAY! schools organise and shoot some us terrorists ? BOO!!1

02:37:55 asciilifeform: ^ makes sense

02:38:16 asciilifeform: btw that was also the first time in my entire life in usa that i saw proper european-height ceilings.

02:38:24 asciilifeform: (in a residential bldg)

02:38:29 mircea_popescu: and ftr it's perfectly sound. who exactly do you suppose will get quarter for "having been a very competent usg agent" ?

02:38:41 mircea_popescu: chtulhu can eat him first

02:39:04 asciilifeform: speaking of which, the curator informed me that j.e.hoover quartered his agents in that place.

02:41:19 mircea_popescu: what is it, some sort of hotrel ?

02:42:20 asciilifeform: house of 19th c. mega-imperial somebody, turned into a museum-cum-whore-hotel

02:42:33 mircea_popescu: aha

02:42:45 asciilifeform: http://www.omansion.com << very spammy www, if i learned of it from www instead of wandering in, would not have even contemplated setting foot near it

02:42:46 assbot: The Mansion on O Street™ | Events, weddings, b&b & more in Dupont Circle, Washington DC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VHZsL2 )

02:43:16 asciilifeform: possibly one of the worst company www i have ever seen.

02:43:44 asciilifeform: and yes, one can rent the place by the hour, day, month, and actually shit in them golden toilets !!

02:43:52 asciilifeform: ^ ben_vulpes et al

02:44:03 asciilifeform: ^ anybody else in gringolandia.

02:44:37 mats: lol, front page: white, azn, brown child

02:44:49 asciilifeform: mats: i disrecommend the www; just see my photos.

02:45:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4725 @ 0.00072985 = 3.4485 BTC [+]

02:45:09 asciilifeform: though ftr i was there for ~2h and didn't visit even half the rooms.

02:46:39 *: asciilifeform was there with pet, and afterwards we had debate re: whether 'if even a few of the folks with maxint usd wanted a house like this, how many could be satisfied, ..., ..., turkey-buying dollars (tm), ..., ... .'

02:46:39 mats: i looked at em, gaudy stuff

02:46:50 asciilifeform: mats: much of the garbage in the photos is 'yard sale'

02:47:01 asciilifeform: (literally, the folks who work in that place, brought the crud in for sale)

02:47:19 asciilifeform: it is where the piles of 'books' came from

02:47:24 mats: lol

02:48:50 mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely certain what exactly strikes your fancy so, asciilifeform

02:49:12 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: similar feeling to when i saw an american grocery store for first time

02:49:12 mircea_popescu: !up zveda

02:49:21 zveda: mircea_popescu: thanks

02:49:27 mircea_popescu: aha. who're you ?

02:49:31 asciilifeform: 'so this is what actual life looked like.'

02:49:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the abundance of items ? or what ?

02:49:41 asciilifeform: nonononono

02:49:43 asciilifeform: of space.

02:49:49 asciilifeform: fuck the items.

02:50:21 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/gIkqgKO.jpg < such as ?

02:50:26 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1i6SZLF )

02:50:38 mircea_popescu: first bidet masquerading as bathtub ive ver seen

02:51:00 asciilifeform: there were something like seven wooden tubs of various kinds, in just the rooms i saw

02:51:04 mats: reminds me of bath stall for old folks

02:51:11 asciilifeform: no 'pressed shitboard' either

02:51:19 asciilifeform: mats: actually old ru rubs were of the 'sit-down' kind

02:51:24 asciilifeform: mats: i bathed in one as a boy

02:51:32 asciilifeform: it was sop.

02:51:36 mats: interesting

02:51:56 asciilifeform: then shittification, pressboardification, 'modern' towers, shitter/bath combos, and 'lie-down' enameled steel tubs.

02:51:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, you ever been on the west coast ?

02:52:00 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope

02:52:07 mircea_popescu: are you going ?

02:52:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: never had a reason to go

02:52:28 asciilifeform: i've never been to alaska either

02:52:29 mircea_popescu: well there certainly exist better museums of "sleep ad libitum" all through california.

02:52:36 asciilifeform: and it is ahead on the list

02:52:38 mircea_popescu: yes but this'd be relevant to your interests.

02:52:56 asciilifeform: any in particular ?

02:55:23 mircea_popescu: i dunno, dude, chris rhea's house lol.

02:55:25 mircea_popescu: anyone really.

02:56:06 mircea_popescu: rea*

02:56:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00073432 = 6.6089 BTC [+] {5}

02:56:51 asciilifeform: it is a museum ?

02:57:13 mircea_popescu: mno.

02:57:21 mircea_popescu: hm.

02:57:43 asciilifeform: i don't personally know a fella named chris rhea.

02:57:50 asciilifeform: so i can't imagine he would invite me for tea.

02:57:57 asciilifeform: (given that i've never heard of such a man)

02:58:22 asciilifeform: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10821220/Runaway-rhea-Chris-is-shot-dead-by-a-gamekeeper.html

02:58:24 assbot: Runaway rhea, Chris, is shot dead by a gamekeeper - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1VI0TJj )

02:58:31 asciilifeform: 'Local gamekeeper said he understood that the police wanted the bird dispatched because they were worried that it could cause a car crash'

02:58:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=489 there.

02:58:36 assbot: Leland Stanford Mansion SHP ... ( http://bit.ly/1VI0S8s )

02:58:37 asciilifeform: seems like he is dead. and was a bird.

02:59:04 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now ~that~'s a mega-museum.

02:59:08 *: asciilifeform puts on map.

02:59:09 mircea_popescu: yw.

02:59:20 mircea_popescu: but srsly, east coast is famous for crampy, shitty quarters.

03:00:13 mircea_popescu: of more genuine historical interest, ;;google Captain George Flavel House

03:00:16 asciilifeform: i think the 'cramped' actually made it appealing to my inner submariner

03:00:21 mircea_popescu: lol

03:00:28 mircea_popescu: you have an inner submariner ?

03:00:31 asciilifeform: (more pointedly, made it 'plausibly like places in my head')

03:00:57 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my old flat had just enough void air in it to physically pass from one room to another.

03:01:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all the rest - shelves, bulkheads

03:01:17 mircea_popescu: periscope depth, captn!

03:04:06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the place was also set up in such a way that one must look for hidden doors (e.g., swing-out book cases) to find new rooms

03:04:12 asciilifeform: a kind of labyrinth

03:04:46 asciilifeform: this played straight into the mega-phantasy in my dream world of 'found extra room in house' that i've been afflicted with since childhood

03:05:06 *: asciilifeform dreams (literally) of rooms the way a hungry man does of food

03:06:04 asciilifeform: it is interesting how visiting, e.g., a gigantic warehouse, or stadium, does not tickle this fantasy

03:06:24 asciilifeform: because those spaces do not register as 'plausibly like somewhere i can picture living'

03:06:44 asciilifeform: for one thing, a four-story warehouse ceiling is vertical space and ipso facto wasted.

03:06:56 asciilifeform: (from my hindbrain's pov)

03:07:18 asciilifeform: whereas an endless succession of labyrinthine chambers is precisely it.

03:07:29 asciilifeform: i now understand why chinese emperors (and american industrialists) built them!

03:07:49 asciilifeform: it was a kind of theme park of not-feeling-cramped

03:11:38 mircea_popescu: isn't "Found extra rooms in house" kinda like "found extra procedures in code" ?

03:11:45 asciilifeform: no.

03:11:51 mircea_popescu: but anyway, my place in timisoara was ~5k sqft on two levels.

03:11:59 mircea_popescu: perfectly standard for the local upper middle class

03:12:11 asciilifeform: no so different from where my parents live, size-wise

03:12:12 mircea_popescu: had the option to buy it for like 80k, which i didn't take.

03:12:16 asciilifeform: woah

03:12:21 asciilifeform: 80k barely buys a van here.

03:12:27 mircea_popescu: yes but you live in a shithole.

03:12:42 *: asciilifeform does not dispute this

03:13:37 asciilifeform: actually i am wrong, fella i know bought a spiffy van for 70k

03:15:01 asciilifeform: anyway, 1,2,3,infinity.

03:15:28 asciilifeform: 80 may as well be 800 or 800,000,000 from my pov.

03:16:38 mircea_popescu: what, it's like 400 btc

03:17:15 asciilifeform: so?

03:17:41 mircea_popescu: not even 1k!!1

03:17:47 asciilifeform: ...?

03:18:03 mircea_popescu: im just being silly.

03:18:26 trinque: asciilifeform: you do live in the worst possible part of the US

03:18:33 trinque: move to Houston, do math for an oil company

03:18:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00073894 = 8.7564 BTC [+]

03:18:46 asciilifeform: trinque: see thread.

03:18:47 trinque: the beltway is *not* all there is

03:18:54 trinque: so do science after 5

03:18:56 trinque: I dun geddit

03:19:06 asciilifeform: trinque: read thread, and maybe get it.

03:19:07 asciilifeform: or not.

03:20:18 asciilifeform: trinque: i have zero, zip, nada, interest in being an interchangeable part.

03:20:40 asciilifeform: trinque: if you cannot understand this, i am probably wasting space here attempting to explain it.

03:21:08 trinque: to that I have two responses

03:21:16 trinque: one, do some acid

03:21:19 trinque: two, taqiya

03:21:59 asciilifeform: trinque: would love some acid. might make this existence bearable. see old thread re: why i never had any.

03:22:14 asciilifeform: trinque: as for taqiya, it worked pre-google.

03:22:15 asciilifeform: perhaps.

03:22:57 trinque: asciilifeform: I was telling mr ben_vulp` earlier I'd love to get you some if I'm ever able

03:23:02 trinque: sadly, am currently not

03:23:07 trinque: just to see what'd happen

03:23:16 asciilifeform: dope is over-rated.

03:23:40 trinque: acid's special; not the least bit a matter of getting intoxicated in the usual sense

03:24:01 asciilifeform: !s a smell of petroleum prevails throughout

03:24:03 assbot: 1 results for 'a smell of petroleum prevails throughout' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=a+smell+of+petroleum+prevails+throughout

03:25:10 asciilifeform: trinque: as for your oil men, it is a basic truism of salary men in usa that no one is ever, under any circumstances, paid a salary large enough to stop being a salary man.

03:25:18 asciilifeform: it is an elementary thing.

03:26:15 asciilifeform: kinda like if you were kommendant of auschwitz, you wouldn't give a capo a machinegun

03:26:22 asciilifeform: no matter how much you trusted him.

03:29:15 trinque: I see oil and a few other things as the few remaining inputs on the US "economy

03:29:18 trinque: end quote.

03:30:57 asciilifeform: trinque: i am specifically laughing at your notion that i would hate life less if i were to agree to spend MORE HOURS PER DAY doing IDIOT SCUTWORK in exchange for slightly more banana peels.

03:31:20 trinque: ah shit man, I have meatwot friends working for these oil companies

03:31:26 trinque: they pillage and they live well.

03:31:44 asciilifeform: trinque: live well == sleep ad libitum.

03:31:48 asciilifeform: do they ?

03:31:57 asciilifeform: i think you already answered the question though

03:31:59 asciilifeform: they do not.

03:32:07 asciilifeform: given as 'they work for...'

03:32:13 asciilifeform: QED.

03:33:25 asciilifeform: a cubic kilometre of house is worthless if you can't spend your top waking hours there.

03:33:28 trinque: or another meatwot friend working for a tradebot company

03:33:31 trinque: who tried to hire me

03:33:33 asciilifeform: again, working.

03:33:37 trinque: ends at 5!

03:33:43 trinque: gets his dick sucked the rest of the time!

03:33:54 asciilifeform: 'cause no energy for actual thought, aha

03:34:41 mats: so lets get down to it, asciilifeform

03:34:49 mats: how many hours of actual work do you do per week

03:35:01 asciilifeform: hard to say

03:35:15 asciilifeform: and what is 'actual work'

03:35:26 asciilifeform: does sitting in the wheel coffin count ?

03:35:54 mats: the sort you abhor, sure, include driving

03:35:59 asciilifeform: (traditionally not, but it isn't like i would be there if it were not for the rest of it)

03:36:24 mats: thats ten hours a week right?

03:36:28 trinque: taqiya

03:36:29 asciilifeform: 10-20

03:36:44 trinque: not every act of my career is a manifestation of my principles

03:36:53 trinque: sometimes I'm just trying to get paid

03:37:28 trinque: stick another y on that, I guess

03:37:35 *: trinque reminisces briefly about the persian chick he dated

03:37:36 mats: 20 hours of driving? really?

03:37:45 trinque: probably most beautiful women on earth.

03:38:09 asciilifeform: mats: sure.

03:38:14 asciilifeform: mats: what is so astonishing

03:38:29 trinque: that's 2hrs commute a day

03:38:34 trinque: can happen

03:38:38 trinque: houston traffic gets crazy

03:38:44 asciilifeform: 2 is the bestcase

03:38:58 mats: i dunno how your mental formula works, but i'd certainly pay to live closer

03:39:13 trinque: thing is, I know guys that just chose to be the smartest guy at a truly asinine startup

03:39:27 trinque: they make great money, they do whatever they please in their free time

03:39:52 trinque: I run a business, but I have no quarrel with those that just maximize their own path through the whole retarded mess./

03:40:43 trinque: I started my business by neglecting other retarded pursuits and building the other thing in spare time.

03:42:36 asciilifeform: mats: i can't even begin to afford to live near where i work.

03:42:48 asciilifeform: mats: literally twice or more per square metre.

03:42:56 trinque: oh asciilifeform, DC and surrounding sucks so much.

03:43:07 trinque: surely you understand that the sludge flows out from exactly there?

03:43:11 asciilifeform: trinque: of course.

03:43:17 asciilifeform: trinque: i don't work for the sludge though.

03:43:23 trinque: I know, but proximity!

03:44:15 asciilifeform: what about it? it isn't like this is ancient china and you don't have to pay tax if you live far away from the tax collector.

03:45:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00073894 = 6.0593 BTC [+]

03:45:20 trinque: yeah, but you just don't run into them.

03:45:34 trinque: everyone of consequence in TX hates the federal government.

03:45:40 trinque: deeply, and as a matter of principle

03:46:16 asciilifeform: trinque: do they pay a penny less of tax from this ?

03:46:49 trinque: you just feel that way, and wait for the other thing to fail.

03:47:05 asciilifeform: feel ahahaha lol.

03:47:26 trinque: how many years do you think the federal govt has left?

03:47:40 asciilifeform: 10,000.

03:47:41 trinque: the gov of texas talked openly about secession throughout his term.

03:47:42 asciilifeform: or not.

03:47:45 asciilifeform: but longer than i have.

03:47:51 trinque: they will destroy the currency and fail

03:47:58 asciilifeform: sure. and then i will be dead.

03:48:07 trinque: who knows.

03:48:13 asciilifeform: nah i'm pretty sure.

03:49:19 asciilifeform: mats: i will add, to earlier thread, that it is not even reliably possible to ~rent a house at all~ near where i work.

03:49:32 asciilifeform: renting out houses is not something that is done, generally, in the richer parts of MD.

03:50:55 mats: it becomes 2x per sqm to get so much as 30mins from work?

03:52:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9820 @ 0.00073894 = 7.2564 BTC [+]

03:54:04 mats: and you cannot rent rooms either i suppose?

03:54:15 asciilifeform: fuck rooms

03:54:46 asciilifeform: what, you think i will put up with sharing toilet with strangers ?

03:54:50 asciilifeform: seen them, smelling them ?

03:54:58 asciilifeform: why the everliving fuck should i even think about this.

03:55:11 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> hard to say << heh.

03:55:34 mats: so princely

03:56:10 asciilifeform: so minimum-human-ly.

03:56:27 asciilifeform: how many unrelated, unfucked adults does mats share his quarters with ?

03:56:44 asciilifeform: (today, not in the barrack)

03:56:46 mats: wat is 'unfucked'

03:57:12 asciilifeform: ones you do not regularly have sex with

03:57:19 mircea_popescu: interesting metric.

03:57:37 mircea_popescu: makes the collegiate campus a winner. especially at arizona state.

03:57:39 mats: i live alone atm. moved recently. but for most of non-barracks, non-univ adulthood i shared quarters with 2-4 other people

03:58:00 mats: and i expect to do so again in a year or so

03:58:41 asciilifeform: sux

03:58:43 mats: i don't abhor it like you do, will prob do it willingly well into late 20s

03:59:44 mats: sharing toilet with four others does suck, though. but small price to pay to hold onto more wages

04:00:15 mircea_popescu: i expect this will be the permanent normal mode of living from noiw on anyway.

04:00:17 asciilifeform: mats: small price if you don't do any serious thinking.

04:00:35 mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.

04:00:36 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see old thread about sovietized flats where i live, aha

04:00:49 mircea_popescu: but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed.

04:01:08 mircea_popescu: those being, very strictly, the options.

04:01:40 asciilifeform: aha, garbage collector hasn't really run since '45

04:01:57 mircea_popescu: nah. see problem there wasd, they destroyed more stuff than killed people.

04:02:06 mircea_popescu: so it was actrually scant improvement.

04:02:09 asciilifeform: '18 then ?

04:02:35 mircea_popescu: i would think so.

04:03:23 asciilifeform: anyway, i don't expect to live to see another such thing. certainly not the other side of it, anyway!

04:08:36 asciilifeform: slightly related,

04:09:31 asciilifeform: i have been getting increasingly frequent telephone spam from electric co., offering to cut my rates in exchange for a (for now, voluntary!) remote disable on my air conditioner compressor. it is hilariously insulting. why won't they just mail me a vial of cyanide, also 'voluntary' ?

04:09:42 asciilifeform: even more electric saving, from it

04:10:37 asciilifeform: i suppose it is not too long to wait, for the northkr-style rolling blackouts

04:11:39 asciilifeform: and for the predictable game of hopscotch through various 'voluntary', 'voluntary-compulsory', finally compulsory belt-tightenings

04:12:33 asciilifeform: 'mains power on tuesdays for party members'

04:12:35 mircea_popescu: uh

04:12:37 mircea_popescu: wtf is that lol

04:13:25 mircea_popescu: !s <Belxjander>

04:13:26 assbot: 47 results for '<Belxjander>' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%3CBelxjander%3E

04:14:20 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265005 << forget clerk. a railwayman could ~buy~ a house and support five children on his wages, in '50s.

04:14:20 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:35; mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.

04:16:02 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-08-2015#1224008 << l0l!

04:16:02 assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 06:58:21; Belxjander: using AmigaOS 4.1Final on my desktop myself... definitely niche..

04:33:56 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264735 << also being silly ? i really don't disagree with your assessment of your personal situation at the end of the day. i mean, how could i ? but nor do i share your uniquely russian fatalism.

04:33:56 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 01:55:12; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264479 << holy fuck man what've you been smoking

04:34:44 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264753 << reminds me of 'deco' museum in riga. /me goes digging for pics.

04:34:44 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 02:31:58; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/a/GIDeo << i went there today. and this is how i imagine your old house looks like.

04:35:56 pete_dushenski: also of rented apartement in jewish quarter in riga, which had the most beautiful interior staircase with the most divinely baroque wrought iron handrails.

04:36:17 pete_dushenski: derp. s/riga/prague on the 2nd one.

04:41:58 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what were you doing in riga ?

04:42:38 asciilifeform: 'Jack Whittaker won $315 million and ten years later, his daughter and granddaughter had both died of drug overdoses, his wife divorced him, and once while in a strip club, he was drugged and robbed of $545,000 in cash, as reported by The New York Times.' << thinking folk don't play lotteries.

04:42:41 asciilifeform: elementary.

04:43:54 asciilifeform: unsurprising that scum wipes his arse with the money.

04:44:07 asciilifeform: (with the enthusiastic help of his 'friends' and family)

04:44:21 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: touring. visited most of latvia and lithuania. just last year in fact. partially documented here http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/12/architecture-in-riga/

04:44:23 assbot: Architecture in Riga | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JLn35Z )

04:44:29 asciilifeform: ah hm i recall this

04:44:37 asciilifeform: went just for kicks? to eat fine sprats ?

04:44:50 asciilifeform: enjoy classic su atmosphere ?

04:45:28 pete_dushenski: kicks was the intent. fell in love with the food.

04:46:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00073787 = 11.7321 BTC [-] {2}

04:46:03 pete_dushenski: i'd already been to most of the rest of europe, so baltic was somewhere new

04:46:37 asciilifeform: 'William "Bud" Post won $16.2 million in the Pennsylvania lottery in 1988 but was $1 million in debt within a year. "I wish it never happened," Post said. "It was totally a nightmare." A former girlfriend successfully sued him for a share of his winnings and his brother was arrested for hiring a hit man to kill him in the hopes he'd inherit a share of the winnings.'

04:46:43 asciilifeform: ^ how the fuck does that even work

04:46:54 asciilifeform: 'former girlfriend sued successfully..'

04:47:59 asciilifeform: 'Their 14-year marriage was over, a freak fire gutted their house, and every penny of their fortune was gone.' << at least he had the sense to scorched-earth

04:48:10 asciilifeform: rather then letting the vultures get it.

04:49:25 asciilifeform: btw in usa they traditionally hand out the winningz piecemeal, to make sure that the lucky fella doesn't do something That Would Be Wrong like cashing out to btc and sending it all to isis

04:49:54 asciilifeform: or equipping 500 fine young folks with automatic weapons and a reason to live

04:51:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00073737 = 8.5904 BTC [-]

04:52:06 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265031 << one interesting mega-feature of 'o street' is that you can actually pay to live in it.

04:52:06 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:34:44; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264753 << reminds me of 'deco' museum in riga. /me goes digging for pics.

04:52:11 asciilifeform: unlike most museums

04:52:35 pete_dushenski: by the hour eh

04:53:26 asciilifeform: by the year if you like.

04:53:42 pete_dushenski: neato

04:55:15 asciilifeform: i suspect that the day is not far when lotteries turn into 'lifetime walmart gift card' instead of usd

04:55:44 asciilifeform: prolly after the first winner catching on to algo of 'cash out to btc, brainwallet'

04:55:44 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> unsurprising that scum wipes his arse with the money. << that's one angle, and valid. the other angle, perhaps equally valid, is that prisoner kept in prison since birth has imagination of life outside, is let out, in a world much akin the prison inside, goes berserk.

04:55:46 pete_dushenski: we have '$1k 4 lyf' lotteries here. pretty lulzy

04:56:12 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i live in same prison, what of it

04:56:23 asciilifeform: imagination is a thing of the inner world

04:56:31 mircea_popescu: aha

04:56:33 asciilifeform: if you don't have it - you ain't a someone.

04:56:35 asciilifeform: not a person.

04:56:51 asciilifeform: if it were possible to give 20megausd to a dog, what would he do?

04:56:56 asciilifeform: buy a megatonne of kibble ?

04:57:12 asciilifeform: hire squads to collect rotting racoon carcasses from whole city, every day?

04:57:17 mircea_popescu: buy cats, force them to dress as bitches, fuck them ?

04:57:28 asciilifeform: nah that'd be a man.

04:57:30 asciilifeform: with imagination.

04:57:34 mircea_popescu: afaio dogs like to fuck more than to eat.

04:57:44 asciilifeform: aha but are satisfied with chairs, telephone poles

04:57:51 asciilifeform: rather like american consumer.

04:57:59 *: mircea_popescu has observed pitbull kill cat, fuck carcass.

04:58:23 asciilifeform: did other animals queue up ?

04:58:28 asciilifeform: like that sea gull

04:58:28 mircea_popescu: nope

04:58:32 mircea_popescu: lmao

05:02:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.world-art.ru/lyric/lyric.php?id=14707 << related.

05:02:04 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EJSbGr )

05:02:08 asciilifeform: mega-classic.

05:03:20 asciilifeform: obligatory:

05:03:22 asciilifeform: http://rutube.ru/video/5c999e682aedf4d7f08adebda715433f

05:03:24 assbot: Мультфильм Мультфильм Миллионер — смотрите мультики онлайн бесплатно в хорошем качестве. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EJShOj )

05:03:31 asciilifeform: ^ animated version of this poem.

05:03:35 asciilifeform: also mega-classic.

05:03:59 asciilifeform: with english subs!

05:09:07 asciilifeform: !up Vexual

05:11:26 *: Vexual cadillac hands, unknowingly

05:14:12 mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265062 << thats genius

05:14:12 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:55:15; asciilifeform: i suspect that the day is not far when lotteries turn into 'lifetime walmart gift card' instead of usd

05:30:10 pete_dushenski: "Billiards Suite • $4,000/night • sleeps 2 • Our most booked suite! This suite includes exclusive use of the billiards room for 8 hours, plus an adjoining hotel room. This is the most asked for suite in The Mansion for events, as you can sleep (if you choose) or play billiards on a $150,000 classic billiards table." << via o mansion's absurdly bad www

05:30:56 pete_dushenski: ;;calc 4000/240

05:30:57 gribble: 16.6666666667

05:31:49 pete_dushenski: so a qntra a week basically. hmm.

05:32:34 pete_dushenski: ;;calc 109/16.6666666667

05:32:35 gribble: 6.53999999999

05:33:22 pete_dushenski: something about turkeys (tm)

05:34:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12696 @ 0.00072959 = 9.2629 BTC [-]

05:41:39 mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/ << such lulzy bets history.

05:41:40 assbot: BitBet - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 18th September :: 4.39 B (9%) on Yes, 46.99 B (91%) on No | closing in 18 hours 18 minutes | weight: 3`215 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5ArQc )

05:46:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073425 = 4.2587 BTC [+] {3}

05:47:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0007294 = 6.1999 BTC [-]

05:47:05 pete_dushenski: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-TURBO-X50-/221870469237 << air cooled porsche lulz. at $500k, this 18-year-old 911 turbo x50 is pricier than absolutely everything the firm sells today save the 918, which is a 1/918 unit HYPERCAR that retails for $850k

05:47:07 assbot: Porsche 911 Turbo X50 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1XA83kX )

05:59:30 mats: what does ebays cut look like

06:01:17 pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. it's paypal i'd worry about.

06:01:30 mats: looks like 2.9%

06:01:38 mats: jesus l0l

06:01:39 *: pete_dushenski cannot imagine $500k pp transfer

06:02:11 pete_dushenski: i imagine a wire transfer would be the only reasonable course of action here

06:02:41 mats: 15k for flipping a buncha bits in a db

06:03:11 mats: what a robbery

06:05:07 pete_dushenski: ya, makes remittances look cheap. so where's the fat rich white guy sitting in his newoldporsche on the phoundation's website ?

06:07:30 mats: hes on the casting couch holding the cam for that woman in front of the whiteboard

06:48:04 thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/VIwv3Qf.png << Advertisements for xt now in the bitcoin subreddit

06:55:52 deedbot-: [Qntra] Mozilla Vulnerability Hoard Compromised For a Year - http://qntra.net/2015/09/mozilla-vulnerability-hoard-compromised-for-a-year/

06:56:08 davout: thestringpuller: haha such nice troll

07:09:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0007294 = 5.6164 BTC [-]

07:15:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00073751 = 15.6352 BTC [+] {3}

07:26:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00073073 = 3.544 BTC [-]

07:29:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00073585 = 14.4595 BTC [+] {4}

07:40:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14963 @ 0.00072879 = 10.9049 BTC [-] {3}

08:01:43 mircea_popescu: lol win.

08:11:53 punkman: pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though.

08:12:58 punkman: which is why I sometimes find sellers website/email and transact away from ebay

08:15:25 punkman: for a while you'd see items priced $0.1 and rest of price in shipping costs, which worked to minimize fees.

08:25:31 punkman: new Firefox feature on new tab page http://i.imgur.com/A9Ngwxw.png

08:25:32 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LT1iUW )

08:40:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8960 @ 0.00073347 = 6.5719 BTC [+] {3}

09:41:35 punkman: http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/09/05/0/

09:41:37 assbot: A history of modern init systems (1992-2015) ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkWpqH )

09:42:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00073129 = 7.642 BTC [-] {2}

09:46:54 punkman: http://www.archdaily.com/395363/india-s-forgotten-stepwells

09:46:55 assbot: India's Forgotten Stepwells | ArchDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOgwKb )

10:02:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00073129 = 9.5799 BTC [-]

10:09:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00073459 = 7.199 BTC [+]

10:11:13 punkman: http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/unhackable-version-of-windows-built-by-israeli-security-company.html

10:11:16 assbot: Unhackable Version of Windows Built By Israeli Security Company ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOjEWc )

10:12:45 mircea_popescu: lolrly

10:13:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00073129 = 7.8248 BTC [-]

10:35:05 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265113 <<< can buy porsche with paypal account? i'll take 10!

10:35:05 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 06:01:17; pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. it's paypal i'd worry about.

10:51:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00073459 = 2.2038 BTC [+]

11:07:59 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265145 <<< This I got to see. Thanks jooz for the morning lulz.

11:07:59 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 10:11:16; assbot: Unhackable Version of Windows Built By Israeli Security Company ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOjEWc )

11:13:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14089 @ 0.00073811 = 10.3992 BTC [+]

11:28:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.0007313 = 18.4288 BTC [-] {3}

11:30:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21167 @ 0.0007298 = 15.4477 BTC [-] {4}

11:34:11 mircea_popescu: oh for crying out loud.

11:34:21 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Belxjander you haven't actually fixed your connection.

11:34:21 gribble: The operation succeeded.

11:39:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00072695 = 2.9318 BTC [-]

12:16:16 shinohai: Did that n6 guy who was trying to build gentoo and get in wot ever come back with a new name?

12:24:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7080 @ 0.00073918 = 5.2334 BTC [+] {3}

12:26:21 danielpbarron: shinohai, yes and he's a Eulora player now

12:29:51 shinohai: Oh cool danielpbarron glad he got up and running finally

12:44:52 punkman: http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/09/navy-cyber-sailors-notional-computers/

12:44:54 assbot: Fleet Cyber Sailors Train On 'Notional Computers' ... ( http://bit.ly/1EN9DcR )

12:51:20 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264466 <-- absolutely positively the case, ty. What, do you think a starfaring person would travel light years, collect protons, return home?

12:51:20 assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:29:25; trinque: or what, if aliens landed, you think they'd want some kind of cultural exchange, rather than to scrape whatever they like out of the earth's crust and ocean, then depart?

12:52:16 funkenstein_: For a prompt to imagine how this might work, see "Accelerondo" - Charles Stross (megabook)

12:52:20 jurov: are dns samples "cultural exchange"?

12:52:22 jurov: *dna

12:52:39 kakobrekla: only if the impregnate you

12:52:41 funkenstein_: yes any program

12:52:42 kakobrekla: they

12:53:26 funkenstein_: haha :)

12:53:49 punkman: funkenstein_: maybe cultural exchange will involve getting fucked by tentacles for the next 10,000 years

12:53:53 funkenstein_: as to whether the defenseless, or any item at all, has value- see open market for that

12:54:15 funkenstein_: if you don't see the value: resell

12:55:11 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835

12:55:12 assbot: ESR Writes on "Surprised By Wealth" - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcd2q )

12:55:15 assbot: I have a Patreon page ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcaDY )

12:55:22 funkenstein_: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8

12:55:23 assbot: dpaste: 3BKKJB8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcceY )

12:55:23 deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.

12:56:00 funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8

12:56:02 assbot: dpaste: 3BKKJB8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcceY )

12:56:02 deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.

12:56:27 kakobrekla: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt

12:56:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcrXA )

12:56:29 deedbot-: rejected: 1

12:56:33 kakobrekla: see

12:57:09 kakobrekla: imp0st0r!

12:57:16 funkenstein_: lol

12:59:22 funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt

12:59:23 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcrXA )

12:59:24 deedbot-: rejected: 1

13:00:24 jurov: wtf did i read

13:06:07 funkenstein_: a proof that something has value is an offer to pay for said thing

13:06:24 punkman: what's the thing, arawak slavegirls?

13:08:16 funkenstein_: what am i doing wrong with the deedbot?

13:09:02 kakobrekla: looks like it either the key or the message

13:14:31 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/gWst8Wp.jpg

13:14:32 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENhd7t )

13:26:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.0007372 = 2.491 BTC [-] {2}

13:36:43 funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3X4MQ12.txt

13:36:44 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENmwDI )

13:36:45 deedbot-: rejected: 1

13:56:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10918 @ 0.00072775 = 7.9456 BTC [-]

13:59:35 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu reboot system boot 2.6.32-431.el6.x Mon Sep 7 00:30 - 10:01 (09:31) AND reboot system boot 2.6.32-431.el6.x Mon Sep 7 08:44 - 10:01 (01:17) ---- TWICE

13:59:36 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:03:04 asciilifeform: TWICE, MOTHERFUCKERS

14:06:56 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu that box is a titanic disgrace not only to s.nsa, but bisp. every penny you pay for it is a penny given to a scammer who is laughing at us

14:06:57 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:09:01 *: shinohai weeps for the loss of phuctor, hopes the perps responsible reap karma.

14:19:08 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu WITH MULTI-HOUR DOWN TIMES

14:19:09 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:19:26 asciilifeform: a little bird held that power switch down, aha

14:19:30 asciilifeform: fucking cosmic rays, aha

14:20:38 fluffypony: I had a box at a DC that rebooted every few hours

14:20:55 fluffypony: I reported it as a hardware error 4 times, they kept telling me it can't be, it must be my configuration

14:21:11 fluffypony: so I dropped them and moved to a different host

14:21:16 fluffypony: haven't had a reboot since

14:21:31 asciilifeform: fluffypony: i have a box in an american dc with ~6+ year uptime.

14:21:36 asciilifeform: this is NORMAL

14:22:07 fluffypony: yup

14:22:34 shinohai: I am of the mind this isn't pure technical gremlins at work, considering the project.

14:22:46 asciilifeform: no shit.

14:23:15 asciilifeform: i will also note that i know a fella with a box shelved right next to mine (diametric) and his has not gone down even once.

14:24:32 pete_dushenski: "China's foreign currency reserves shrunk by $93.9 billion to hit $3.56 trillion at August-end, the largest monthly drop on record, according to reports."

14:25:24 pete_dushenski: "PBOC had stepped up its foreign exchange intervention to $122 billion in August from about $50 billion in July."

14:28:31 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265131 << huh. this i did not know. crazy.

14:28:31 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 08:11:53; punkman: pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though.

14:29:01 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265148 << can buy anything with paypal ! it's like money for the internet !

14:29:01 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 10:35:05; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265113 <<< can buy porsche with paypal account? i'll take 10!

14:29:35 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265151 << coming to a bank branch near you.

14:29:35 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 11:07:59; shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265145 <<< This I got to see. Thanks jooz for the morning lulz.

14:31:38 shinohai: I must obtain a copy of this unhackable windows, otherwise it is as mythical as North Korean unicorns to me.

14:32:07 pete_dushenski: "“Sailors kept downloading terabyte upon terabyte of porn, often filled with malware,” he added. “One sailor even managed to get his ‘harpoon’ stuck in a USB port.”"

14:32:24 pete_dushenski: shinohai: unhackable winbloze is as much of a joke as ^

14:32:49 pete_dushenski: “We are confident that NOTs will mold our sailors into cyber warriors,” Turing asserted. “By using their imaginations, we can train them on state of the art or next gen systems right away.” “It’s a whole lot better than the Windows 3.1 systems we actually have,” Turing added. “That’s for darn sure.”

14:33:26 shinohai: Harpoon in USB port LOLZ

14:33:42 pete_dushenski: ok 'duffelblog' ain't half bad

14:33:47 pete_dushenski: nice find, punkman

14:34:11 pete_dushenski: "For Sale: AGM-114K Hellfire Missile, Slightly Damaged. Asking $1000 OBO. Location: Fort Drum, NY"

14:34:20 pete_dushenski: "Lockheed Upbeat Despite F-35 Losing Dogfight To Red Baron"

14:34:39 pete_dushenski: "REPORT: Female Ranger Grads Going To Crush So Much Fucking Pussy This Weekend"

14:35:08 pete_dushenski: "Odierno: Taco Tuesday Only Thing Holding This Damn Country Together"

14:35:13 pete_dushenski: http://www.duffelblog.com/

14:35:15 assbot: Duffel Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBOubO )

14:35:48 shinohai: I know I am a heartless bastard but this makes me laff: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11509101&ref=NZH_FBpage

14:35:50 assbot: The big passport scam: Pakistanis dumping IDs to become Syrian - World - NZ Herald News ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBOFnz )

14:36:47 *: shinohai starts selling Syrian passports for BTC

14:38:53 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265204 << dude, funkenstein_, sometimes you make no goddam sense. mebbe i'm an idiot and i cannot grasp the heights of your insight, but it seems altogether more like that you've got a bad case of shannonitis.

14:38:53 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 13:36:43; funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3X4MQ12.txt

14:39:11 pete_dushenski: !s shannoniser

14:39:12 assbot: 0 results for 'shannoniser' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shannoniser

14:39:23 asciilifeform: !s shannonizer

14:39:24 assbot: 28 results for 'shannonizer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shannonizer

14:39:32 pete_dushenski: aha

14:40:03 pete_dushenski: ;;google site:fraudsters.com shannonizer

14:40:04 gribble: Racists and the racist idea on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2015/racists-and-the-racist-idea/; Look what the spam dragged in! on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea ...: http://fraudsters.com/2015/look-what-the-spam-dragged-in/; Causes and purposes on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/

14:41:48 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265249 << related >> http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/09/eventual-consequences.html

14:41:48 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 14:35:48; shinohai: I know I am a heartless bastard but this makes me laff: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11509101&ref=NZH_FBpage

14:41:51 assbot: ClubOrlov: Eventual Consequences ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBQtNj )

14:42:15 asciilifeform: 'For example, there is the refugee problem, which seems to be affecting all the countries that bombed, invaded or otherwise disrupted the countries that are now causing the refugee crisis. It never seemed to dawn on the highly compensated eurocratic morons that helping the US empire to destroy Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen, and sow chaos all over the Middle East would result in a torrent of humans deluging their sh

14:42:15 asciilifeform: ores. And now they are reduced to explaining at the top of their lungs how the refugee crisis has nothing at all to do with their foreign policy.'

14:46:55 shinohai: Ah! Very good post, and true. Yet no one sees this as consequence.

14:54:59 pete_dushenski: "no one could've predicted a plane being used like a bomb"

15:04:19 pete_dushenski: "A man sexually harassed by his boss at a Wellington hostel has been awarded more than $35,000 after being sacked for complaining about the treatment."

15:04:28 pete_dushenski: "Mr Singh said Mr NarayaNasamy, also known as Robbie Nara, sexually harassed him by sending him explicit text messages, including one produced during the ERA hearing that said "I need to have sexs with u soon"."

15:11:12 shinohai: "I need to have buttsecks with u soon."

15:13:34 pete_dushenski: "-love, the guy who signs your paychecks"

15:20:52 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: my blog is getting there. almost ready to be seen by da public.

15:21:02 pete_dushenski: respek

15:21:02 thestringpuller: There will be a big shoutout to you there.

15:21:21 pete_dushenski: :D

15:21:22 thestringpuller: "This goes out to the guy with the Jew fro" then you have to distinguish between you and ben_vulp`

15:27:05 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: my friend showed me a video from jay lenos garage, in particular this hot rod that was built froma 12 cylinder tank engine.

15:29:03 pete_dushenski: car design used to be very much an art form

15:29:34 pete_dushenski: and there was much more cross-over between car design and military equipment design

15:30:02 pete_dushenski: so tanks, airplanes had more influence over cars, particularly the racing sort

15:31:04 pete_dushenski: this was true as far back as voisin and citroen. google andre lefebvre sometime. guy was a crossover genius.

15:31:37 pete_dushenski: mercedes' domination of f1 in the 1950s was also a result of their ww2 airplane prowess

15:32:04 pete_dushenski: today, of course, cars are a cross between dishwashers and smartphonez

15:33:51 pete_dushenski: http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_04-09-2015_13_22_48.jpg?itok=fjZdkrJk << 1912 lorrain dietrich 'vieux charles iii' with 15.1L four-banger

15:33:52 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKiA6 )

15:34:43 pete_dushenski: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-concours-elegance/2015-concours-elegance-show-report-and-gallery << moar obscure and fascinating old metal from days gone by.

15:34:44 assbot: 2015 Concours of Elegance show report and gallery | Autocar ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKtLA )

15:35:45 pete_dushenski: http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_05-09-2015_15_55_21.jpg?itok=yeUFIKLx << Delahaye Type 165 Touring Cabriolet commissioned by the French government, from the days when gov knew how to spend money.

15:35:46 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKzmA )

15:36:07 pete_dushenski: http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_05-09-2015_15_55_08.jpg?itok=6g3zyqJP << same delahaye

15:36:08 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JP1unb )

15:37:15 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastolene_Special << this is the car I was shown

15:37:33 pete_dushenski: obscenely regal proportions on that thing. 'pontoon fenders' doesn't begin to describe that delahaye. and those running boards !

15:38:04 shinohai: Gawd that is a sexy automobile

15:38:09 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: omgerd that's insane.

15:40:03 pete_dushenski: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/international-automotive-scene/528091d1302166419-hot-rod-devils-blastolene-brothers-02_lenotankcar.jpg << leno + blastolene special at what appears to be pebble beach concours

15:40:05 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXL1Bc )

15:41:35 thestringpuller: yea that's the one. thing is huge as fuck.

15:42:04 thestringpuller: i love the 12 cylinders. 2 gallons to the mile!!! jkjk

15:42:28 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/5/6/Jay-Leno-Reveals-1000hp-1975-Custom-Plymouth-Duster-7708686/ << this is the other car we were watching stories about last night

15:42:59 shinohai: Is China srsly trying to blow itself up? http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/blast-reported-at-chemical-plant-in-eastern-china

15:43:01 assbot: Blast reported at chemical plant in eastern China, East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXLhAe )

15:44:58 pete_dushenski: shinohai: china's not that monolithic

15:45:07 pete_dushenski: what 'self' ?

15:46:19 pete_dushenski: there's internal turmoil, certainly in northwest where teh islamists reside. so 'accidents' can happen, but then again so too can accidents

15:47:10 pete_dushenski: sometimes there are patterns, sometimes mere coincidence and the actual reporting of otherwise hush-hush events make it appear as if there are patterns

15:48:20 shinohai: Oh yeah, I am sure there are lots of "accidents" that never make the media.

15:48:37 trinque: ;;later tell funkenstein_ feed it your pubkey as ascii-armor first

15:48:37 gribble: The operation succeeded.

15:49:11 trinque: I can sync them from assbot only if they're on SKS, and that one didn't appear to be, unless I'm coffee-deficient at the moment

15:49:53 trinque: I also have no fucking idea what I read.

15:50:04 punkman: trinque: but assbot gets them from SKS

15:50:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00073857 = 12.7034 BTC [+]

15:51:30 trinque: punkman: yeah I'm telling him to either upload the key or feed it directly into deedbot-

16:08:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0007392 = 3.8808 BTC [+] {3}

16:12:33 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8l11q9hsJM << “I don't think any of us—especially those five people—want to be the high priests of Bitcoin. We need to find a new way of governing—a new way of coming to decisions and have everyone be happy with the process and the decisions that are reached.”

16:12:34 assbot: EB94 – Gavin Andresen: On The Blocksize And Bitcoin's Governance - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNigAV )

16:13:32 pete_dushenski: “If you go back in time, it was simple. It was whatever Satoshi decided.”

16:13:53 pete_dushenski: still simple today, gavin. b-a decideth.

16:15:52 *: pete_dushenski doesn't recommend wasting 80 mins of precious life watching gavin derp on podcast. just for historical reference and record.

16:27:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3968 @ 0.00073283 = 2.9079 BTC [-]

16:36:27 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: photos?

16:43:47 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264747 << forbidden city

16:43:47 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 02:04:29; *: asciilifeform in zombie city

16:43:57 ben_vulpes: aok found photos

16:46:37 ben_vulpes: omg the unrelenting stream of kitsch

16:49:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00073227 = 6.6637 BTC [-]

16:58:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14862 @ 0.0007311 = 10.8656 BTC [-] {5}

17:03:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00072774 = 4.512 BTC [-]

17:04:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00073296 = 4.3245 BTC [+] {3}

17:09:33 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

17:10:46 ascii_field: re: shannonitis: https://www.amazon.com/review/R1LQTXOW0OMON/ref=pe_1098610_137716200_cm_rv_eml_rv0_rv

17:10:48 assbot: Amazon.com: John Young "Cryptome"'s review of Purity: A Novel ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPdvJB )

17:11:30 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265301 << ahahahaha cosmic rayz!!!

17:11:30 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 15:42:59; shinohai: Is China srsly trying to blow itself up? http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/blast-reported-at-chemical-plant-in-eastern-china

17:11:42 ascii_field: 'he ran into my knife! he ran into my knife, TEN TIMES!!'

17:11:45 ascii_field: (tm) (r)

17:12:03 ascii_field: this was what, 5th in 3 weeks ?

17:12:08 ascii_field: kosmik rayz.

17:13:13 ascii_field: 'blow itself up' my shiny metal arse.

17:13:57 BingoBoingo: 'INsert Girder'

17:14:04 punkman: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-debian-is-trying-to-shut-down-the-cia-and-make-software-trustworthy-again

17:14:10 assbot: How Debian Is Trying to Shut Down the CIA and Make Software Trustworthy Again | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPdYLP )

17:14:50 ascii_field: punkman: what, you thought #b-a was exempt from embrace&extenduish ?

17:15:01 ascii_field: 'Reproducible builds are already a staple of Bitcoin and the Tor Project.' << ahahahahahahaha

17:15:05 ascii_field: bitcoin.

17:15:08 punkman: yep

17:15:16 punkman: that line caught my eye

17:15:16 ascii_field: carefully avoiding to mention ~which~ bitcoin

17:15:42 punkman: also I have serious doubts re: "According to Lunar, 83 percent of Debian packages are now built reproducibly, and more join the party every day."

17:16:00 ascii_field: 'Diverse Double-Compiling' << little problem here. THERE IS ONLY ONE C COMPILER worth a cow's fart

17:16:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00072638 = 34.4304 BTC [-] {5}

17:17:18 ascii_field: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-security-experts-are-using-an-ancient-email-format-in-2015 << related

17:17:19 assbot: Why Security Experts Are Using an Ancient Email Format in 2015 | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPeoll )

17:17:26 ascii_field: '"Just because I use mutt doesn't mean I enjoy it," he wrote in an email. "I hate it. I wish there were something better, but I've not found it yet."'

17:28:10 pete_dushenski: http://gizmodo.com/ashley-madison-code-shows-more-women-and-more-bots-1727613924 << botlulz

17:28:10 assbot: Ashley Madison Code Shows More Women, and More Bots ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPfm0P )

17:28:19 pete_dushenski: 'in the database dump from Impact Team, all we can see is the ample evidence that male users were contacted by bots pretty much constantly. Those data fields tell us that 20 million men out of 31 million received bot mail, and about 11 million of them were chatted up by an automated “engager.”'

17:29:28 pete_dushenski: apparently ashley madison was yet another mommy blogger/daddy investor 'make money while you sleep' scam

17:29:44 pete_dushenski: no one wanted to have affairs, just to ~feel~ like they might possibly consider it.

17:30:04 pete_dushenski: be a secret agent, use pgp (tm)

17:30:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15742 @ 0.00072526 = 11.417 BTC [-] {2}

17:33:32 pete_dushenski: "Once the man struck up a conversation, the bot would say things like this: "Hmmmm, when I was younger I used to sleep with my friend’s boyfriends. I guess old habits die hard although I could never sleep with their husbands." and "I’m sexy, discreet, and always up for kinky chat. Would also meet up in person if we get to know each other and think there might be a good connection. Does this sound intriguing?

17:33:32 pete_dushenski: ” It’s unclear what else the engager would say—either the bots really are this simple, or further chat phrases weren’t in the code. Most likely, based on what I saw from other bot code, the bot would urge the man to pay credits to talk further."

17:34:26 ascii_field: snore. orlovian deer/hunter symbiosis.

17:34:35 ascii_field: these schmucks ~demanded~ to be scammed.

17:34:36 punkman: "really are this simple" yeah you don't need more than that

17:35:46 ascii_field: the real enabler is usg, of course, because not just anyone gets to harvest the chump armies.

17:36:02 ascii_field: it is a crown concession, like petro-drilling the coast

17:36:04 pete_dushenski: was xtian church before them

17:36:36 punkman: ashleymadison is a crown concession?

17:37:15 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264646 << see thread

17:37:15 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:32:12; mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia.

17:38:45 pete_dushenski: 'usg "hires" you to lap up the welfare faucet drippings.'

17:39:13 pete_dushenski: ok mebbe that's not the most relevant thread...

17:39:59 pete_dushenski: punkman: in any event, argument being, there's no u.s. anything without crown say-so

17:40:42 punkman: pete_dushenski: I don't buy that the crown has any control whatsoever against the botmasters

17:41:11 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

17:41:41 ascii_field: punkman: it was a multimillion above-board corp. with legal team, almost-ipo, etc

17:41:52 ascii_field: you don't get to be that in usa without some apparatchik support.

17:42:04 pete_dushenski: punkman: doesn't have to be direct string-pulling, can be 2nd, 3rd order

17:42:27 ascii_field: or the first patent troll who comes along will eat you for lunch. or ceo busted for 'irregularities' of which every man on u.s. soil who ever so much as smelled a seven-figure sum is guilty as all hell; etc

17:42:47 pete_dushenski: not like obama has time between youtube videos with 'viral stars' to write scripts for ashmad bots

17:43:24 fluffypony: damn the Chinese are getting desperate for profit: http://shanghaiist.com/2015/09/06/fake_paper_rice.php

17:43:25 assbot: Fake rice made with paper found in Guangdong: Shanghaiist ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPh2HQ )

17:44:31 ascii_field: 'Earlier this year, reports emerged about plastic rice sold on the Chinese market making its way across Asia. This fake rice was a more edible-sounding mix of potatoes, sweet potatoes and delicious synthetic resin. According to Oryza.com, plastic-tainted rice grains remain hard after being boiled, and the soup made by it forms a very unappetizing plastic sheath 'that burns like plastic' when heated up.'

17:44:36 ascii_field: pure gold.

17:45:12 pete_dushenski: gnarly

17:47:35 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265007 << see also.

17:47:35 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:49; mircea_popescu: but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed.

17:49:15 punkman: ascii_field: I meant the non-US botmasters, ashleymadison sure, just like any other US corp

17:49:43 ascii_field: poor cn orcs haven't had their buffett and wrigley's corp. yet, have not invented reasonably food-like industrial waste, yet.

17:49:50 ascii_field: give'em time.

17:51:12 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265178 << how much of that 36M did he ever really take home ?

17:51:12 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 12:55:11; punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835

17:51:49 *: ascii_field has seen esr in the flesh on several occasions, and the man is an INSUFFERABLE braggart and confabulator

17:51:58 ascii_field: but money was never one of the things he bragged of.

17:54:32 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: did you two chat or just 'see across room'

17:55:00 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: just heard him talk

17:55:31 ascii_field: i personally have nothing to say to him.

17:56:30 pete_dushenski: fair 'nuff

18:03:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00073529 = 8.6029 BTC [+]

18:04:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00072474 = 16.5603 BTC [-] {3}

18:06:01 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: by the time esr could legally sell his shares in 'lnux' (june 2000), the share price had tanked from $240 at end of ipo day to ~$40.

18:06:14 pete_dushenski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geeknet#/media/File:LNUX.png

18:06:15 assbot: Geeknet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EOyEEA )

18:06:17 ascii_field: that's still a few M

18:06:22 ascii_field: where did it go ?

18:06:31 pete_dushenski: twas 15 years ago...

18:06:42 pete_dushenski: of living in usistan

18:06:47 ascii_field: so?

18:07:23 pete_dushenski: ;;calc 240/40*36000000

18:07:24 gribble: 216000000

18:07:52 ascii_field: ??

18:08:01 ascii_field: you prolly meant,

18:08:10 ascii_field: ;;calc 40/240*36000000

18:08:10 gribble: 6000000

18:08:20 pete_dushenski: quite

18:08:41 pete_dushenski: ;;calc 6000000/15

18:08:42 gribble: 400000

18:09:32 pete_dushenski: i dunno what to say, the guy's not a money manager

18:09:39 ascii_field: to put it mildly.

18:09:46 pete_dushenski: him and every other lottery winner/pro athlete

18:09:54 ascii_field: but i think most folks could avoid bleeding 400K/yr out of their arse

18:09:57 ascii_field: without really trying

18:10:31 pete_dushenski: most folks ? haha. hardly.

18:10:33 ascii_field: the most likely thing is that the man INVESTED!!1111!!111 it

18:10:40 trinque: ahaha I just got an e-mail from "pantera capital" addressed to [FirstName] inviting me to apply for funding.

18:10:42 ascii_field: like most of the early btc holders did

18:10:58 ascii_field: trinque: make sure to also buy v14gr4!!!11 from them

18:11:16 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: because what else ? take little, regular sips from pool

18:11:16 trinque: lol, no kidding

18:11:19 trinque: !up ascii_field

18:11:20 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:11:25 ascii_field: and to ransom their lost prince.

18:11:36 trinque: maybe I can get someone to tie a laptop to his scrotum

18:11:49 ascii_field: no deal until tied.

18:11:59 ascii_field: elementary.

18:12:02 pete_dushenski: trinque: try eth long guy from denmark or w/e

18:13:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00072442 = 9.6348 BTC [-] {2}

18:13:23 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: the point being, most people haven't the foggiest clue how to make a dime last a day, much less how to turn it into 15c.

18:13:33 ascii_field: terrible example

18:13:57 pete_dushenski: mkay do better

18:14:03 mats: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34173544

18:14:05 assbot: Yemen crisis: Qatar 'deploys 1,000 troops' - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNzG0o )

18:14:05 trinque: "commence payments" sold my email to pantera

18:14:19 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: see my ancient review of mpex for instance.

18:14:21 trinque: me.commence@domain.org

18:14:41 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: are you saying you're 'most people' now ?

18:14:44 ascii_field: it is not hard to turn 100K into 200K

18:14:54 ascii_field: but quite impossible to turn 10c into 20c.

18:15:12 ascii_field: especially and particularly if you need 9 of the 10 cents to make rent.

18:16:52 pete_dushenski: aha. very reasonable counter-point. but my original point still stands because you're changing the premises now. esr didn't have 10c and need 9 to make rent, same for lottery/athletics winners. they had millions and failed to turn it into anything other than heartache and dust

18:16:59 shinohai: So I will take the remaining 1c and turn it into twopence

18:17:14 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: aha, i personally have no idea what he did with it. perhaps he sent it to nigeria.

18:17:30 ascii_field: or invested in best phriend's 'sure to make megabux!!11!!11' sv idiocy

18:17:35 ascii_field: (but i repeat myself)

18:18:07 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: so maybe it's 'not hard' to turn xxxxxx into 2xxxxxx for you or i, but there's a mountain of evidence to suggest that this is a reasonably rare skillset

18:18:28 pete_dushenski: which pretty much sums up http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/01/american-social-mobility-is-really-just-luck-says-data/

18:18:30 assbot: American “social mobility” is really just luck, says data. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNArGT )

18:18:47 ascii_field: at the very least, it is not hard to still have the 100k at the end of the day

18:18:59 ascii_field: this merely requires doing nothing.

18:19:12 BingoBoingo: But ESR has(had?) wife

18:19:22 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: doing nothing is the hardest !

18:19:32 ascii_field: BingoBoingo: fuck knows, maybe paid for cunt transplant or what

18:19:49 BingoBoingo: Still wife is a money leak.

18:19:53 ascii_field: why?

18:20:11 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: as to esr's 100k, to quote "Yes, we do have some savings and stock. No, I don’t want to tap them, because thank you I do not want to be on the dole or dead of starvation and exposure when I’m really old. "

18:20:24 pete_dushenski: prolly 100k in there if not more

18:20:59 pete_dushenski: " It’s not going to make much of a dent in (for example) medical insurance, thanks to the statist bastards who’ve driven health-care costs into the stratosphere through their incessant meddling. (They cost my wife her job, too – that’s been psychologically rough on her.)" << moar esr from punkman's link

18:21:02 ascii_field: 1) out of what, 6m 2) likely denominated in usg junk

18:21:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00073529 = 2.6838 BTC [+]

18:21:43 pete_dushenski: 1) this is average roi for 'make money while you sleep' 2) what else ?

18:22:23 ascii_field: i must echo the canonical http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1218232

18:22:23 assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 15:37:38; mircea_popescu: i don't solve problems. i just throw away other people's solutions.

18:23:04 ascii_field: i for one sincerely hope that esr lives long enough to starve; and that i live long enough to watch.

18:24:50 *: ben_vulpes will someday wear esrs mantle of "attached self to prominent open source project"

18:24:58 pete_dushenski: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COUFQRgVAAIx8mH.png << highest 1 bedroom median rents in usistan

18:24:59 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNBtCM )

18:25:10 pete_dushenski: ^ you're only in 5th, ascii_field

18:25:32 ascii_field: esr is an especially noxious worm for having the temerity to pretend that his career owes nothing to usg

18:25:35 pete_dushenski: not that $2,110/mo isn't still obscene

18:25:56 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: i don't live in the dc city walls properly speaking

18:26:05 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: but in nearly p.g. county, md

18:26:09 ascii_field: *nearby

18:26:11 pete_dushenski: right, '2 hour drive'

18:26:36 ascii_field: 1-2 hr to montgomery county

18:26:55 ascii_field: generally i stay out of dc other than to see museums and miscellaneous oddities

18:28:33 pete_dushenski: i need to make my way to dc's museums one of these years.

18:29:23 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: highly recommended. so long as you stay out of the 'modern art' claptrap pits, you will see 'america as it once was'

18:30:40 ascii_field: see the goodies before they get mysteriously desaparecido'd (sold for hard currency to cn)

18:31:40 pete_dushenski: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/09/07/1535221/why-biking-injuries-and-deaths-are-spiking-in-the-us << heh. can't afford cars so taking bicycles. 'researchers' blame 'lance armstrong effect'

18:31:42 assbot: Why Biking Injuries and Deaths Are Spiking In the US - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNCpa2 )

18:32:17 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: i can travel to china just as well, but dc is marginally more convenient. for now.

18:33:03 ben_vulpes: cn? hard currency?

18:33:24 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: why do you assume that the buyer will exhibit the goods ?

18:33:29 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: for food, if you like.

18:34:04 *: pete_dushenski checks yeg to bwi. $376 round trip with stop-over in ord.

18:35:00 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: posterity ?

18:35:22 ascii_field: l0l

18:35:27 pete_dushenski: plaque reading 'on generous loan from his greatness xixixi'

18:35:42 pete_dushenski: same as row

18:36:01 pete_dushenski: this custom doesn't translate ?

18:36:03 ascii_field: the land of plastic rice gives a fuck about 'posterity' like a dog about beets.

18:36:29 pete_dushenski: hey, maybe beets are fuckable.

18:36:56 punkman: only if cook them

18:42:08 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

18:43:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00073699 = 14.8135 BTC [+] {4}

18:50:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0007384 = 7.827 BTC [+] {3}

19:34:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00073329 = 11.476 BTC [-] {3}

19:39:45 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:39:50 ascii_field: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/feds-cyberbullying-reverses-cops-convictions-for-shooting-unarmed-people << lulzy

19:39:52 assbot: Feds’ cyberbullying reverses cops’ convictions for shooting unarmed people | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1M6xN4O )

19:40:08 ascii_field: 'In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina back in 2005, five former New Orleans police officers were sentenced to six to 65 years in prison in connection to on-the-job deadly shootings of unarmed civilians. But recently, these five officers had their convictions set aside by a federal appeals court. Why? Federal prosecutors' anonymous online comments posted underneath local news accounts of the officers' ongoing

19:40:08 ascii_field: 2011 trial "contributed to the mob mentality potentially inherent in instantaneous, unbridled, passionate online discourse," the court said. In light of that, the appellate court found a fair trial wasn't possible.'

19:44:54 pete_dushenski: this is like saying that fair trials aren't possible because putin ate a ham&cheese croissant for breakfast.

19:45:10 pete_dushenski: i seriously don't understand this shit.

19:45:26 ascii_field: pete_dushenski: summary is, usg does whatever the fuck it wants

19:45:51 pete_dushenski: guess so eh

19:46:02 pete_dushenski: at least as far as prosecuting itself goes

19:46:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00073872 = 10.9331 BTC [+] {3}

19:47:21 ascii_field: as for turning those cops loose, it is part of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456 campaign.

19:47:21 assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.

19:48:13 mats: i have yet to read about guardsmen shooting looters during katrina in the news

19:48:21 jurov: thestringpuller: mats: pete_dushenski: trinque: BingoBoingo: etc. coinbr back up, monthly fee for august waived

19:48:25 mats: and i know for a fact this happened

19:48:36 pete_dushenski: jurov: cheers !

19:48:56 mats: excellent

19:48:58 ascii_field: mats: you also will not often read about orcs shooting at ambulances during katrina. which also happened.

19:49:06 BingoBoingo: Congrats jurov

19:49:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 5500 @ 0.00040427 = 2.2235 BTC [+]

19:51:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5892 @ 0.0007312 = 4.3082 BTC [-]

19:52:07 kakobrekla: so, i discovered a recipe for healthy teeth.

19:52:22 kakobrekla: find yourself a hot dentist.

19:52:45 pete_dushenski: this is news ?

19:53:00 mats: ascii_field: understand, this invokes memories of 'kent state' and the usual fears of us .mil operating domestically

19:53:02 kakobrekla: news to me!

19:53:05 *: pete_dushenski has had hot dentist for better part of a decade

19:53:17 pete_dushenski: tall, blonde, young...

19:53:21 kakobrekla: aha

19:53:47 pete_dushenski: kakobrekla still, wd !

19:55:28 kakobrekla: until now i was always serviced by men. what a mistakea to makea.

19:56:16 pete_dushenski: men for ortho, womenz for regular dentistry is best balance in my experience

19:56:58 *: pete_dushenski has never seen endo, perio, other specialists, doesn't know

19:57:08 mats: you would think americans would care. southerners in particular are perennially afraid of obama directing troops to steal their firearms, kill them, etc...

19:57:25 pete_dushenski: oh, and men for maxillofacial surgery (wisdom teef)

19:57:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00073182 = 13.7216 BTC [+]

19:58:20 ascii_field: mats: the way it works is, there are precisely two kinds of permitted mass media in usa: 1) usg 2) usg crank bait

19:58:24 ascii_field: !s crank bait

19:58:25 assbot: 25 results for 'crank bait' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crank+bait

19:58:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21917 @ 0.00072407 = 15.8694 BTC [-] {2}

19:59:16 ascii_field: discussion of 'fed troops coming' is permitted strictly in the latter; and strictly in conjunction with discussions of martians coming, and shooting mind control rays

19:59:51 ascii_field: classic example of this algo being what happened with the '9-11 truth' folks.

20:00:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49550 @ 0.00072136 = 35.7434 BTC [-] {2}

20:00:18 ascii_field: the choice permitted is between the official narrative and martians.

20:00:21 ascii_field: strictly, strictly this.

20:00:50 BingoBoingo: !up bitstein

20:01:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00071988 = 19.2928 BTC [-] {2}

20:01:25 jurov: !t m s.qntr

20:01:25 assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00040427 / 0.00040427 / 0.00040427 (5500 shares, 2.22 BTC), 7D: 0.00038573 / 0.00038753 / 0.00040427 (60100 shares, 23.29 BTC), 30D: 0.00027949 / 0.00037942 / 0.00040427 (75572 shares, 28.67 BTC)

20:02:03 jurov: what happens when new shares are delayed for a week!

20:02:33 BingoBoingo: Old shares go to the moon

20:03:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7076 @ 0.00071782 = 5.0793 BTC [-] {2}

20:04:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9612 @ 0.00071659 = 6.8879 BTC [-] {2}

20:09:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00071545 = 15.6326 BTC [-] {3}

20:10:32 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

20:11:20 BingoBoingo: !up analmaster

20:11:36 analmaster: hello

20:11:39 ascii_field: welcome analmaster

20:11:43 analmaster: the master of anus's

20:11:44 ascii_field: find your pgp key

20:11:44 analmaster: has arrived

20:11:51 analmaster: yes i had it burried deep

20:11:53 analmaster: in a special cavity

20:12:07 ascii_field: analmaster is my neighbour in the uranium minez

20:12:17 mats: lol...

20:12:19 BingoBoingo: Ah, welcome

20:12:26 analmaster: thank you obama, for making it easier to enrich.

20:12:33 ascii_field: aka b00lcrap

20:14:54 ben_vulpes: amuse

20:17:06 assbot: cum into my harem

20:17:28 ascii_field: l0l!

20:17:36 analmaster: lol

20:17:55 analmaster: the assbot spews random crap?

20:18:05 BingoBoingo: assbot has buttitude

20:18:07 ascii_field: only when kakobrekla feels like it

20:18:54 analmaster: i see

20:18:57 analmaster: how does this work again

20:18:59 analmaster: !jailbat

20:19:17 kakobrekla: mp is offline

20:19:35 analmaster: he is a busy man

20:19:53 jurov: prepping eulora release

20:20:05 jurov: (imo)

20:23:43 BingoBoingo: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/15/09/07/1827205/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-played-no-role-in-my-designs-for-the-apple-i-ii

20:23:44 assbot: Steve Wozniak "Steve Jobs Played No Role In My Designs For the Apple I & II" - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UCW3ux )

20:25:47 ascii_field: 'Steve Jobs played no role at all in any of my designs of the Apple I and Apple II computer and printer interfaces and serial interfaces and floppy disks and stuff that I made to enhance the computers. He did not know technology. He’d never designed anything as a hardware engineer, and he didn’t know software. He wanted to be important, and the important people are always the business people. So that’s wh

20:25:47 ascii_field: at he wanted to do. The Apple II computer, by the way, was the only successful product Apple had for its first 10 years, and it was all done, for my own reasons for myself, before Steve Jobs even knew it existed.'

20:26:36 kakobrekla: how do you say, mega-un-surprise ?

20:26:50 ascii_field: afaik this was already public for eons.

20:28:11 trinque: yeah, I don't think anyone who is aware of tech thinks he invented anything

20:28:29 trinque: built a few very successful companies though

20:31:31 BingoBoingo: !up refferedbyloper

20:31:54 ascii_field: !s from:refferedbyloper

20:31:54 assbot: 1 results for 'from:refferedbyloper' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Arefferedbyloper

20:40:49 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

20:44:41 BingoBoingo: !up analmaster

20:48:07 analmaster: ah thank you

20:48:20 analmaster: you are a kind and gentle beast

20:53:46 pete_dushenski: http://www.gallup.com/poll/184730/americans-themselves-haves-nots.aspx << 38% of usians rate themselves as 'have-nots', up from 17% in 1988. capitalism won the cold war !1

20:53:48 assbot: More Americans See Themselves as "Haves" Than "Have-Nots" ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1SZSO )

20:55:52 shinohai: Wow, a real, live analmaster

20:56:04 analmaster: hello, ill be your anal master for the next 22 minutes

20:56:16 shinohai: Only 22 minutes?

20:56:28 shinohai: That will barely stretch my anus

20:56:37 pete_dushenski: 'this hour has 22 minutes' (tm)

20:56:40 analmaster: lol

20:56:44 analmaster: Hell would be heaven for me. All my life I've been with the have-nots. Over here, if you're a have-not, you're short of dough. If you're a have-not in hell, you're short of virtue. Once I get into hell, I'll start organizing the have-nots over there.

20:57:08 shinohai: Where is "over here" ?

20:57:15 analmaster: hell!

20:58:59 shinohai: !rated trinque

20:58:59 assbot: You have not rated trinque.

20:59:17 punkman: what do the "haves" in hell have?

20:59:39 shinohai: !rate trinque 1 Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo

20:59:39 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fa971afe57c7ac01

21:00:30 shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.trinque.1:bfd69c9c9230ea2c46ba7c1722dc9b86bc5817f13192e63b9e9af4c0fddf43ba

21:00:30 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for trinque with note: Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo

21:01:14 analmaster: punkman: the haves in hell have contempt for jews.

21:03:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00073 = 12.775 BTC [+]

21:03:51 shinohai: What constitutes a "have" vs. "have not" ?

21:03:57 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppfdhDBIohk << 'this hour has 22 minutes' sketch comedy show. national broadcasting at its most mediocre.

21:03:58 assbot: This Hour Has 22 Minutes - Canadian Mass(So Funny) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1Uy3i )

21:04:27 pete_dushenski: shinohai: 'poor' v. 'rich'

21:05:15 shinohai: Oh, then count me as "have not" though most of the time it is intentional, as I don't buy into American commercialism.

21:05:18 ascii_field: laugh at my poverty willya

21:05:52 pete_dushenski: ascii_field: meh. i think you sucked all the fun outta that game :P

21:06:00 ascii_field: l0l

21:07:39 pete_dushenski: analmaster: speaking of jooz. here's some markedly better canadian sketch comedy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvbvqYGgBqM

21:07:40 assbot: Salty Ham - Kids in the Hall - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1VcxA )

21:07:53 analmaster: ah kids in the hall

21:08:02 analmaster: reminds me of my youth

21:08:31 pete_dushenski: you grew up up north ?

21:08:53 analmaster: no they aired it in the states when i was a teen

21:09:50 pete_dushenski: aha

21:10:44 *: punkman just finished eating lentil stew and salty anchovies

21:10:51 shinohai: yummy

21:10:54 punkman: admittedly not the best idea at midnight

21:10:57 analmaster: is there a difference between lentil stew and lentil soup

21:11:08 punkman: analmaster: less liquid

21:11:18 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

21:11:56 analmaster: makes sense

21:12:08 analmaster: i love lentil soup, with some olive oil and herbamare

21:12:11 analmaster: you guys know the herbamare?

21:12:31 analmaster: a perverse western seasoning : https://img.thrivemarket.com/store/1200x/0/2/021718412169-1.jpg

21:12:32 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1W3OY )

21:13:02 davout: analmaster: looks interesting

21:13:15 analmaster: try it, you will never go back to sea salt.

21:15:21 shinohai: !up analmaster

21:15:59 analmaster: i am now shinohai's anal master for the next 29 minutes

21:16:06 analmaster: how shall we broceed

21:16:35 analmaster: ls

21:17:22 shinohai: Hmmm ... since it is a holiday put a sparkler in your anus and take pics for #bitcoin-assets

21:17:29 analmaster: hrm

21:17:35 shinohai: ^______________^

21:17:36 analmaster: that would work on july 4th

21:17:49 analmaster: but since its labor day, your anus is going to be doing all the work

21:18:35 shinohai: Might be a good idea to register your gpg key with assbot though, and eventually get rated so you can voice yourself.

21:18:53 ascii_field: shinohai: he was rated, aha, lost key

21:19:09 shinohai: ah

21:19:51 analmaster: a gpg key appears.

21:21:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11772 @ 0.00073 = 8.5936 BTC [+] {2}

21:23:09 shinohai: BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/PdzPuTM.jpg

21:23:10 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1XNHQ )

21:23:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5128 @ 0.00073726 = 3.7807 BTC [+]

21:24:24 analmaster: lol

21:24:39 analmaster: please provide some context

21:24:55 analmaster: just some innocent interaxial play

21:25:14 shinohai: No context outside of being racist and damned funny.

21:28:48 BingoBoingo: Was that fluffypony?

21:29:03 fluffypony: HAH HAH

21:29:14 fluffypony: omg you guize

21:29:27 fluffypony: we have it in reverse now :-P

21:30:01 shinohai: xD

21:30:29 shinohai: Every time I see fluffypony, I can't help but think "Friendship is Magic" and all.

21:30:47 fluffypony: thanks shinohai, I'm taking that as a compliment :)

21:32:11 shinohai: Reddit bronies: https://youtu.be/t6023crXgIQ

21:32:12 assbot: My Little Brony Toy Commercial - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1ZjKf )

21:34:36 analmaster: ill never understand bronies

21:35:51 fluffypony: you and me both

21:38:02 punkman: http://ifonlyiweresochic.tumblr.com/post/101190496022/bio-prof-sex-chromosomes-determine-gender-me

21:38:03 assbot: oh so wonderful — Bio prof: sex chromosomes determine gender Me:... ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3qb0O )

21:39:40 analmaster: really?

21:39:43 analmaster: thats not what my teacher told me

21:39:45 ascii_field: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel http://www.sigsam.org/bulletin/articles/178/stoutemyer.pdf << some actual implementation details re: 'derive' & 'mulisp'

21:39:47 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3qt7C )

21:39:47 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:39:54 analmaster: my teacher said you can be whatever gender you want to be

21:40:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10949 @ 0.00071473 = 7.8256 BTC [-] {2}

21:43:11 shinohai: !up ascii_field

21:45:59 asciilifeform: !up analmaster

21:51:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9204 @ 0.00071473 = 6.5784 BTC [-]

21:52:13 pete_dushenski: http://36.media.tumblr.com/2910d740649b4c2cbc2163a27784ec21/tumblr_np90gtwvHD1qafppmo1_500.jpg << microaggressions, explained.

21:52:15 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K22ykI )

21:58:25 analmaster: im not racist

21:58:33 analmaster: i played soccer with a black kid at the bounce house

21:58:34 analmaster: the other day

21:59:31 pete_dushenski: did he score all the goals ?

22:00:01 analmaster: fuck no

22:00:06 analmaster: i dont let him score shit

22:00:12 analmaster: get him ready for a tough life of blackness

22:00:52 analmaster: listen a white lady clinching to their purse when a black person walks by is only natrual

22:01:23 analmaster: blacks commit like 50% of violent crimes in the states

22:01:30 analmaster: and they make up 12 % of the population

22:02:44 kakobrekla: bytes can indeed have color.

22:03:22 analmaster: can bits have color?

22:03:36 ascii_field: !s what colour are your bits

22:03:37 assbot: 4 results for 'what colour are your bits' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=what+colour+are+your+bits

22:04:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00071457 = 13.5054 BTC [-] {3}

22:05:00 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265714 <<< asked gf, she said her bits are pink oc

22:05:00 assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 22:03:22; analmaster: can bits have color?

22:05:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00071371 = 22.7673 BTC [-] {5}

22:05:05 pete_dushenski: analmaster: microaggression is supposed to be natural. like work, sex, and everything else villainised and illegalised by usg. sorta what monopoly on force means in praxis (monopoly on action)

22:05:59 kakobrekla: ascii_field do you always opt for british english variant (out of spite?)

22:06:12 ascii_field: reflex

22:06:19 ascii_field: it's the one i learned.

22:06:25 pete_dushenski: except shannoniZer

22:06:35 ascii_field: when i write article-length crud i usually go back and americanize

22:06:50 ascii_field: precisely because whiners.

22:06:53 analmaster: only half of america is a bunch of sensitive little bitches.

22:07:01 analmaster: pajama boys.

22:09:50 analmaster: https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/pajama-boy.jpg

22:09:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3uSHW )

22:09:52 analmaster: america in one picture.

22:10:18 pete_dushenski: !s lumbersexual

22:10:19 assbot: 0 results for 'lumbersexual' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lumbersexual

22:10:27 pete_dushenski: ya, missing beard.

22:10:53 analmaster: shit

22:10:57 analmaster: im quite lumbersexual

22:11:18 analmaster: i happen to the the last remaining american to chop down > 1/4 acre with an axe in 2014.

22:12:24 ascii_field: ^ quite possibly.

22:13:03 analmaster: https://theuniversalspectator.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/pj-hitler.jpg

22:13:04 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K25XA7 )

22:13:05 analmaster: har har

22:13:35 trinque: I get the sense that guy could've put an eyeball in orbit if he wanted.

22:14:19 trinque: !up ascii_field

22:18:44 pete_dushenski: "Lexus this month will begin offering a service through its Enform telematics system that will enable dealers to remotely look into a customer's check-engine light or other warning on the instrument panel. The service, Enform Service Connect, will be offered on all 2016 Lexus models" << what could possibly go wrong ? not like this'll be hacked six ways to sunday a la jeep uconnect.

22:21:45 pete_dushenski: in other car news, http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/09/dealer-swindled-6-billion-general-motors/

22:21:46 assbot: The Dealer Who Swindled $6 Billion From General Motors ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3wyRC )

22:22:05 pete_dushenski: "McNamara’s brilliant swindle was deliciously simple. It was based on one undeniable truth he learned from his years of owning a Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealership on Long Island: General Motors and GMAC were too incompetent and too bureaucratic to figure out that they were being scammed."

22:22:35 pete_dushenski: 'government motors' indeed.

22:32:11 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform alrighty, so i won't continue it then.

22:33:08 mircea_popescu: as jurov's not actually said anything re his theoretically present but upon examination inexistent connection or w/e it was, this leaves the problem of where to host open.

22:33:40 mircea_popescu: and if it stays open till early oct, nosuchlabs won't have a server until it gets resolved.

22:35:16 jurov: don't wait for me till i communicate it with my guys, of course

22:47:02 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for that matter, is it safe to shut down now ? you have backups and everything ?

22:57:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00071695 = 3.2621 BTC [+]

23:11:46 trinque: !up kdomanski

23:12:01 trinque: kdomanski: hi, who are you?

23:12:47 kdomanski: old frequenter who's been away

23:13:14 trinque: wb

23:14:01 kdomanski: have you guys heard about the whole opensource LGBT drama where a bunch of people wanted a guy out of and OSS project 'cause he said something politically incorrect on twitter?

23:14:17 kdomanski: *an

23:14:32 mats: this would not surprise anyone

23:14:56 trinque: kdomanski: yeah, the ruby thing? not that I don't expect this has happened many times

23:15:11 kdomanski: trinque: that one exactly

23:15:15 kdomanski: https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941

23:15:18 assbot: Transphobic maintainer should be removed from project · Issue #941 · opal/opal · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkREMj )

23:15:23 kdomanski: pages and pages of drama

23:15:28 kdomanski: popcorn advised

23:15:46 trinque: kdomanski: yeah, a guy I know more or less shouted "tranny hater!" at me for not caring about it

23:15:54 kdomanski: haha

23:16:13 kdomanski: I cound 7 occurences of the word "privilege"

23:19:52 trinque: the SJWs can have Ruby; it's a steaming pile of shit

23:20:31 kdomanski: +1

23:21:26 trinque: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Conkeror has made its way into daily use; JS debugging tips? Best thing providing a JS REPL in Emacs?

23:21:27 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:22:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5025 @ 0.00072472 = 3.6417 BTC [+] {2}

23:27:37 davout: trinque: ahem.

23:28:05 trinque: davout: wat

23:28:25 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is to be backed up, for the last time, over the next couplea days.

23:28:30 davout: let's start a ruby flame war

23:28:45 trinque: davout: ruby is objectively butts. rebuttal?

23:28:49 davout: i like the language, the community much much less

23:29:00 trinque: I've done some ruby; mostly just yelling

23:29:00 mats: http://colin.keigher.ca/2015/09/geotrustsymantec-has-revoked-all-ssl.html

23:29:01 assbot: Colin Keigher: Geotrust/Symantec has revoked all SSL certificates for .PW TLD domains ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkSQPI )

23:29:07 davout: trinque: it has unicorns installable as a convenient ruby gem

23:29:28 trinque: davout: the whimsy, which I blame on that "Why" guy, bleh

23:29:39 davout: "Is this what the other maintainers want to be reflected in the project? Will any transgender developers feel comfortable contributing?"

23:30:01 davout: ugh, transgender people either have something to contribute, or they don't, like the fucking rest of us

23:30:41 trinque: nah diversity is a kind of magic dust you sprinkle on your products, and "radical innovation" sprouts

23:31:04 kdomanski: trinque: you forgot "disrupting"

23:31:30 trinque: kdomanski: I am a white male; what do I know anyway?

23:31:33 davout: "Requesting contributions before being heard is a pretty low stab as well - you are basically saying that opinions gain worth with merit." <<< oh god

23:31:47 kdomanski: trinque: shame on you, check your privilege

23:31:53 trinque: it's still there.

23:31:55 *: trinque brb, food

23:33:09 davout: trinque: kek

23:37:45 kdomanski: "unless @elia is removed from the project, I cannot learn Ruby, and thus can't get a job in Ruby development"

23:41:36 shinohai: til you really don't need anything special to perform a DoS attack on reddit besides a script that constantly f5's the page.

23:44:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00072104 = 12.1495 BTC [-] {2}

23:49:48 shinohai: !up kdomanski