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00:12:39 Mats_cd03: !up mdev

00:13:07 Mats_cd03: !up mdev

00:13:35 mdev: thanks, is the auto-devoice necessary? seems like it'd make more sense that if you temp voiced another user could devoice you if needbe

00:13:59 mdev: majority of the channel has no voice currently

00:15:51 mircea_popescu: !up mdev

00:16:12 mircea_popescu: mdev you're not in thething even already you're improvingit ?

00:16:26 Namworld: Well that's a nice little story and all. Although it's true, odds weren't in favor of those outcomes.

00:16:54 mircea_popescu: odds are taleb wouldn't think much of your understanding of odds tho

00:18:13 mdev: mircea just seems like an obvious problem

00:18:17 mdev: and obvious solution

00:18:53 mdev: nothing to be afraid of, big channels don't have anywhere near as locked system like in here, and they don't get spammed much/ever and if they do it doesn't last long

00:19:09 mdev: besides nothing stopping a spammer from joining, asking for voice, and do their thing

00:19:12 Namworld: The little story just seems to point the obvious, aka a good/bad event could end up being a curse/good outcome, respectively.

00:19:27 Namworld: Not that I disagree with what came just before the little story.

00:19:36 mircea_popescu: mdev spammers have very little to do with it.

00:19:47 mdev: then why?

00:19:56 mdev: seems inconvient when majority of the channel can't talk

00:19:58 mircea_popescu: teaching ignorant snots that out of the [their ideas, their shit] set, the shit element is the more valuable however is central.

00:20:17 mdev: inconvenient rather

00:20:48 mircea_popescu: Namworld for full context you gotta look at http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/notebook.htm tho, it's a little disconcerto of cvasi-nonsense

00:21:15 mircea_popescu: mdev how is that inconvenient ?

00:22:03 mdev: because if they want to speak they have to voice themselves, which to even do that have to join some tricky WOT thing, and if they haven't done that they have to burden another user for voice

00:22:14 mdev: versus just talking...where's that web of trust?

00:22:34 mdev: lettintg users talk, without jumping through hoops, and if they get out of line then can devoice or what have you

00:23:22 mircea_popescu: methinks you'll have to spend some time reading the previous discussion on this topic first.

00:23:29 mircea_popescu: anyway, im going out. later all.

00:23:35 Namworld: Well WOT ain't all that tricky. Took me a little while. Once done I was set.

00:24:02 BingoBoingo: knotwork_: You still survived Vircurex?

00:24:24 Namworld: What's vircurex again?

00:24:31 mdev: well as you said it took you awhile, and you maybe quite the clever fellow, so it could take others even longer. I just don't see the point, versus letting all participate

00:24:41 BingoBoingo: Namworld: Kumala's runaway scam

00:27:19 BingoBoingo: Vircurex was money untl it wasn't

00:28:05 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/475427794152067072/photo/1

00:28:06 assbot: NBA writer /JeffZillgitt for the win with his quote sheet as if California Chrome was playing in the NBA Finals http://t.co/PpJsvFG4pP

00:30:02 BingoBoingo: Halep was so close

00:48:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9642 @ 0.00084687 = 8.1655 BTC [-] {2}

00:50:46 mike_c: mircea_popescu: comment published.

00:55:27 dub: that reminds me, still need to get nxt out of vircurex

00:55:37 dub: wich would be easier if the client worked

00:57:40 mike_c: ;;later tell davout if you want to see my warface you have to try and flip the switch on my computer's power strip after i've told you FIFTY TIMES to stay away from it.

00:57:40 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:02:15 dub: %book

01:02:20 atcbot: 32k@289 65k@280 40k@278 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142

01:06:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.0008535 = 25.2209 BTC [+] {3}

01:23:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.2665481 = 1.5993 BTC [-] {4}

01:24:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.26049931 = 3.3865 BTC [-] {7}

01:25:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00085715 = 7.8858 BTC [+]

01:25:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [-]

01:28:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 31 @ 0.25010518 = 7.7533 BTC [-] {7}

01:30:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.25 = 10 BTC [-] {2}

01:35:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2867 @ 0.00085715 = 2.4574 BTC [+]

01:37:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 129 @ 0.00252084 = 0.3252 BTC [-] {4}

02:12:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.00085826 = 19.0963 BTC [+] {2}

02:27:17 benkay: <mdev> well as you said it took you awhile, and you maybe quite the clever fellow, so it could take others even longer. I just don't see the point, versus letting all participate // "all" sucks.

02:27:21 benkay: !up mdev

02:27:34 benkay: ;;later tell mdev logping

02:27:36 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:28:12 benkay: ;;later tell mdev http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/

02:28:13 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

02:28:13 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:31:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30424 @ 0.00085894 = 26.1324 BTC [+] {2}

02:31:39 BingoBoingo: !up bloctoc

02:35:40 BingoBoingo: So, just called out the complaintant on my Disorderly charge on twittter. Their choices are forgive or fade into irrelevance.

02:36:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2699962 BTC [+]

02:38:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.269996 = 0.81 BTC [-]

02:39:00 BingoBoingo: I will resolve this disorderl charge this weekend

02:45:35 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

02:45:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.274 = 1.918 BTC [+]

02:47:39 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have started the push for a return of the passport

02:52:24 BingoBoingo: Who here has a big IRL name twitter presence?

02:53:11 BingoBoingo: benkay: Do you have one?

02:53:30 benkay: fuck no

03:02:50 TheNewDeal: 4 pack of Polish beers and an empty bitcoin-assets room... the start of a fantastic saturday night

03:04:27 Vexual: did yah double down on the diff bet yet?

03:05:28 BingoBoingo: lol

03:05:34 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

03:06:26 TheNewDeal: no that diff bet is going sideways the last couple days

03:06:45 TheNewDeal: I'm currently scouting a fine petroleum opportunity

03:07:10 BingoBoingo: Yeah, I dun feel good about in anymore.

03:11:04 Vexual: ive been playing with turning waste mining heat into distilling power, I wonder how long until crude oil is an option

03:11:40 Vexual: I couldn't find uranium

03:12:59 Vexual: make your own pretroleum jelly

03:14:52 Vexual: its a pickle jar stuck to a peltier stuck to an r-box

03:19:04 TheNewDeal: ahhhh

03:19:26 TheNewDeal: piece of shit hotel connection, not sure why I even tried in the first place

03:19:30 TheNewDeal: couldnt even load gmail

03:19:46 Vexual: waiting is the best part

03:19:56 Vexual: i get mathanol for the first 12 hours

03:20:25 mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Halep was so close << yeah, sucks you know when you bet on a wild horse, and she does 1000 but you needed 1050

03:20:34 mircea_popescu: anyway. it was a bitcoin for her good fortune.

03:20:45 TheNewDeal: that shit will fuck you up!

03:21:12 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu I didn't make that bet, but I understand the sweat involved from making similar bets.

03:21:15 Vexual: TheNewDeal: quick as you like

03:21:28 TheNewDeal: which bet are you talking about?

03:21:38 Vexual: halep to win

03:22:09 mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Who here has a big IRL name twitter presence? << not anymoar.

03:23:09 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Just trying to follow up on an interesting idea from the lawyer

03:24:17 TheNewDeal: mircea_popescu I'm looking for information about the WTI Jan 2015 > $200 because it spoke hedge to me from the beginning

03:24:25 mircea_popescu: im sure it was.

03:24:40 Vexual: wizzen

03:24:45 BingoBoingo: All that is happening is I am asking forgiveness, since after more than a year the prosecution has been incapable of making a case

03:25:06 mircea_popescu: so why'd you ask for anything ?

03:25:12 mircea_popescu: sue for vexation or w/e it's called

03:25:28 mircea_popescu: ill send you a signed letter saying that your failure to show up in timisoara cost you a million dollah.

03:25:31 Vexual: thats what i said, look em in the eye

03:25:40 mircea_popescu: vexualation lol

03:25:41 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because they offer forgiveness nao or are drafted to blowjobs later.

03:26:01 mircea_popescu: here;s free advice : blowjobs from idiots suck

03:26:06 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Actually... I think Mr. Drivethrough J.D. could do a lot with that letter...

03:26:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00085715 = 24.3431 BTC [-]

03:26:37 mircea_popescu: what's your irl real name again ?

03:26:42 BingoBoingo: I think though missing Timisoara cost me much more than one million dollars

03:27:17 Vexual: tread lightly

03:27:29 TheNewDeal: Frankie D.

03:27:34 Vexual: and look confused

03:27:45 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: PM'd with public key

03:28:17 BingoBoingo: Vexual: Only the uninitiated may tread lightly, be aren't we both initiated?

03:28:50 Vexual: i really don't know

03:29:06 mircea_popescu: well no but i mean if ima gonna publish this...

03:29:07 BingoBoingo: Vexual: We are initiated.

03:29:32 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, This is still live through Monday.

03:30:28 BingoBoingo: Eh, what can the feds do, my peace offering under the IRL name https://twitter.com/aaronrogier/status/475467740778881024

03:30:29 assbot: /DallasCookIL I can offer a juicy reslution, but only if you offer a GPG public key. Like http://t.co/iPs8juiF98

03:30:41 TheNewDeal: whats going on?

03:31:00 BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Imma trying to get a passport

03:31:37 Vexual: ahh you know about the good satay

03:31:41 BingoBoingo: The thing is @DallasCoolIL fancies himself a conservative...

03:32:04 TheNewDeal: aren't passports relatively easy to get?

03:32:21 Vexual: i think he wants his back

03:32:23 BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: Not if there is a pending case against you that just won't quit...

03:32:37 TheNewDeal: ahhhh

03:32:56 BingoBoingo: And let us make this clear. I am never pleading any guilt on this case.

03:32:56 TheNewDeal: just as bad as having your nuts in a vise

03:33:28 BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I nearly lost my nuts to trauma and infection in May, this is a minor problem by comparison.

03:33:56 Vexual: tell em you need your passport for a nut infusion

03:34:09 BingoBoingo: Having a testicular torsion manually reduced, now that is pain.

03:34:27 TheNewDeal: jeeeezus

03:34:40 TheNewDeal: I was talking about straight compression

03:34:53 BingoBoingo: Being on the edge of founeir's gangrene because docotrs don't understand bacteria, that is pain.

03:36:13 BingoBoingo: I make this fuss over the misdemeanor now, because a reasonable person on the other side can by 8:00 CDT on Tuesday decide to drop this issue for their great benefit.

03:36:16 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

03:37:26 BingoBoingo: If, however they don't want to drop this... Maybe I would like to be county clerk or whatever their fake bezzel job is...

03:38:10 Vexual: well if you lost your million dollar job because of someoneelses incopetence, it might be their cheapest option

03:39:31 BingoBoingo: Vexual: Not even on that scale yet, but... of my blogs that didn't go viral http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/12/14/the-failure-of-urbit-and-the-bitcoins-future-of-computing/ was probably the most popular for a reason.

03:39:33 assbot: The Failure of Urbit and Bitcoin's Future of Computing | Bingo Blog

03:39:33 TheNewDeal: BB, you and I area on the opposite side of this Bas?tilleday bet, no

03:39:50 BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I am on the no side

03:39:56 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

03:39:58 gribble: Current Blocks: 304736 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1695 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 16 hours, 33 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11712402881.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.37553

03:40:00 TheNewDeal: indeed, I am on the Yes

03:40:17 BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: You seem to be on the more likely side now.

03:40:32 TheNewDeal: true, but the last two days have been quite skittish

03:41:08 BingoBoingo: Days are small, weeks are more

03:41:26 TheNewDeal: most definitely

03:41:35 mircea_popescu: fascinating how every.god.damned.diff.bet ends up such a waffle

03:41:39 TheNewDeal: this has been one of my heaviest bets to date

03:42:13 TheNewDeal: not true MP, some people don't know how to do basic calculations

03:42:20 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I wonder what your tke is on the difference between myself and Tat

03:42:29 TheNewDeal: http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/

03:42:30 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 3 weeks 6 days ago

03:43:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3783 @ 0.00085715 = 3.2426 BTC [-]

03:43:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what diff is that ?

03:46:08 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno myself beyond he feared mpif an I signed on.

03:46:27 mircea_popescu: well link or somthin ?

03:47:13 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Just your recent article on what composes a jail

03:48:16 mircea_popescu: well then i dunno

03:49:51 BingoBoingo: http://fraudsters.com/an-inventory-of-a-prison

03:49:52 assbot: An inventory of a prison pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:49:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00085851 = 14.7664 BTC [+] {2}

03:55:52 TheNewDeal: MP are you relocating to arhentina?

03:57:02 mircea_popescu: already done.

03:58:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14821 @ 0.00085513 = 12.6739 BTC [-]

03:59:07 TheNewDeal: whats the rent like for a mediocre place? like without AC, but with running water and electricity

03:59:29 TheNewDeal: I realize you had some troubles identifying entities that do in fact rent :D

04:02:10 BingoBoingo: I swear, i there s a USG agency that can't know exactly who I am... WTF am I being taxed for...

04:02:13 mthreat: you wouldn't want a place without AC in december-january in buenos aires

04:02:25 Vexual: never been

04:02:40 mthreat: it gets around 35-38 degrees C

04:03:00 Vexual: your logic is unusual

04:03:53 Vexual: some like it hot?

04:04:12 Vexual: oh i read you like who

04:04:13 BingoBoingo: Vexual: Everything is abnormal and everything is great

04:04:29 Vexual: yes and it's usually me

04:05:01 TheNewDeal: for the lulz https://twitter.com/miilkkk/status/474935367318376448/photo/1

04:05:03 assbot: i asked how good she sucked dick and she sent me this pic http://t.co/S1GeAKyJGn

04:06:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16196 @ 0.00085513 = 13.8497 BTC [-]

04:06:47 mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> I realize you had some troubles identifying entities that do in fact rent :D << well yeah, about a dozen orso argentine "experts" took two days to derp about with no results.

04:07:11 mircea_popescu: then i called in the cavalry (ie, my own intel dept, english speakers that don't live there) and i was fixed up the same day.

04:07:36 TheNewDeal: prices?

04:07:45 TheNewDeal: !up Vexual

04:07:46 mircea_popescu: anyway, non ac'd places seem improbable, but a few hundred a month should set you up.

04:08:18 mircea_popescu: depends, some ukrainian guy i know picked up a chick in the street and moved in with her. no rent.

04:16:03 TheNewDeal: intruiging

04:17:41 TheNewDeal: and hows the cannabis?

04:19:19 mircea_popescu: i don't do pot.

04:21:46 TheNewDeal: mostly kidding, I think I remember that from before

04:22:01 TheNewDeal: us weed fiends are a rare breed in B-A

04:22:35 TheNewDeal: have you ever?

04:23:56 Vexual: yeah about 200 years ago

04:24:01 Vexual: *2000

04:24:36 mircea_popescu: sure

04:25:04 mircea_popescu: but no, not so rare, you can generally smell it all over the place.

04:26:01 TheNewDeal: and do their rivers generally flow north?

04:26:41 mircea_popescu: uh

04:26:48 mircea_popescu: i have no idea. the shrimp isprettygood tho

04:30:33 TheNewDeal: ooooh looks like argentina has decriminalized possession, muchos progressivos

04:32:29 mircea_popescu: they also have gays now

04:33:09 Vexual: have you eaten pirhana?

04:33:21 mircea_popescu: what's this, soviet amazonia ?

04:33:28 mircea_popescu: piranha eats you.

04:33:30 TheNewDeal: hahahha whaaaat

04:36:45 mthreat: freal - piranha attack in january: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542176/Ten-people-savaged-flesh-eating-piranhas-Argentinian-river-tried-cool-blistering-41C-heat.html

04:36:46 assbot: Ten people savaged by flesh-eating piranhas in Argentinian river as they tried to cool off in blistering 41C heat | Mail Online

04:37:34 TheNewDeal: holy sh!t those things look nasty

04:39:50 TheNewDeal: just hope the men had a bathing suit on

04:41:27 TheNewDeal: has anyone heard any recent news about bitcoin banking and cannabis sales in colorado?

04:44:11 TheNewDeal: would be nice if they could peg the price of bitcoin to an ounce or something for a week

04:45:11 TheNewDeal: or actually it would be the other way around

04:49:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/im-fresh-out-of-titles-try-again-tomorrow/

04:56:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12589 @ 0.00085513 = 10.7652 BTC [-]

04:58:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5195 @ 0.00085497 = 4.4416 BTC [-]

05:13:55 TheNewDeal: tikka massala is one of the greatest indian gifts to man

05:15:07 cazalla: don't forget the cheese naan

05:21:01 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Gold will close above USD 2000 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/759/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 38(Y):62(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.378482 BTC. Current weight: 61,192.

05:23:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00085397 = 21.6908 BTC [-] {2}

05:26:18 TheNewDeal: I also love the naan with nuts on it

05:26:35 TheNewDeal: can't remember what it's called at the restaurant i frequent

05:32:55 cazalla: do you like rabbit? i've got one going in the slow cooker, will be nice

05:36:57 cazalla: wifes friends and some family turn their nose up at it like i'm offering them the same chicken mcnuggets they toss down their gullet

05:37:19 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal word. esp for lamb.

05:37:33 mircea_popescu: cazalla yeah, rabbit in rosemary:D

05:37:52 TheNewDeal: had some pretty tasty goat curry at an indian buffet tonight

05:38:22 TheNewDeal: reminded me of a time I invited some friends over for a meal that someone cooked for us, and one of them swallowed a goat bone (he hadn't had goat before)

05:43:08 TheNewDeal: never had rabbit before

05:44:04 cazalla: similar to chicken if you butcher prior to sexual maturity

05:45:53 cazalla: i have a small rabbitry, it's a fun hobby and satisfying watching them go from conception to the plate

05:46:26 TheNewDeal: how do you keep the numbers managable, don't they fuck like... rabbits?

05:47:57 cazalla: eat them

05:48:19 mircea_popescu: the natural way lol

05:48:19 cazalla: good to butcher around 8-9 weeks

05:49:52 TheNewDeal: ok so approx how many are alive right now in your rabbitry?

05:50:33 cazalla: 1 buck, 2 does, 7 from last litter left, other doe is due to have them in 8 days

05:53:00 TheNewDeal: oh my gosh. Gold from yahoo answers "Unspayed female: drastically shorter lifespan due to a high rate of reproductive cancer (85% unaltered females die of it before 5 years of age). Extremely territorial, some can be very aggressive, the intensity is often higher than a buck. You have to deal often with 'false pregnancies' where she will pull out large chunks of fur, nest, and get moody and extra-territorial, often for mont

05:53:20 TheNewDeal: fucking false pregnancies

05:53:52 cazalla: yeah, they're aggressive

05:53:57 cazalla: females will fuck the males too

05:54:43 TheNewDeal: why did you decide on rabbits?

05:56:03 cazalla: they don't take up much room (i have a run for them so they can dig, eat grass though), cheap to feed and the meat is lean

05:57:00 cazalla: i'll show ya a pic

05:58:08 benkay: lean meat?

05:58:19 benkay: what is this us brainwashing against fat

05:58:21 benkay: fat is good for you.

05:58:31 benkay: i miss the cream in argentina.

05:58:35 benkay: it's downright viscous.

05:58:40 benkay: !up Vexual

05:59:07 Vexual: rabbit is one of the most delicious things to eat

05:59:26 cazalla: http://i.imgur.com/oQQPD7f.jpg

06:00:05 TheNewDeal: jeezus mp, there 23 footnotes in this article

06:00:37 Vexual: not much grass there cazalla

06:00:52 TheNewDeal: cazalla they cant hop over that fence on the right?

06:01:14 cazalla: Vexual: they get out and go up the side, more grass there but they get all sorts of food from us

06:01:39 cazalla: TheNewDeal: they probably could but none are yet to try

06:02:34 TheNewDeal: they look so tasty and full of albinism

06:02:36 cazalla: compared to a commerical rabbitry, they have it pretty good

06:03:28 Vexual: i could just sip brut cuvee and smell that slow cooker for hours

06:04:19 cazalla: yeah, kitchen smells of cab sav, garlic, rosemary, tomatoes

06:05:46 Vexual: how long in the slow cooker?

06:06:06 cazalla: 7-8 hours on low

06:06:11 Vexual: oh

06:06:37 cazalla: you can do quicker in oven, 90mins but veggies aren't as good

06:07:41 Vexual: i like to slow cook

06:09:03 Vexual: the way the flavours develop

06:09:13 Vexual: dyou ever get goat?

06:09:43 cazalla: i've had it but not for a while

06:10:22 Vexual: chuck some cumin in and drink shiraz til its done

06:22:01 Vexual: on selecting and enjoying brut curvee:

06:23:10 Vexual: this guide is not for you, but read it anyaway

06:23:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00007052 = 0.2116 BTC [-] {2}

06:25:40 Vexual: dear reader, theres a grape with a name, from some faggoty hill in france, but its not about a time or a place or a name face or a taste or a style

06:26:21 Vexual: well it might be a taste

06:27:40 Vexual: i don't claim to be expert

06:28:28 Vexual: it is a fucking taste

06:29:26 Mats_cd03: ur gay

06:31:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21234 @ 0.00085325 = 18.1179 BTC [-]

06:35:11 benkay: there's gotta be good soil down in ars

06:35:18 benkay: just have to find it is all.

06:44:49 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/disclosuremusic/frontin-pharrell-ft-jay-z-disclosure-re-work

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06:50:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4528 @ 0.00085325 = 3.8635 BTC [-]

06:51:35 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/electricyouthmusic/innocence

06:51:36 assbot: Electric Youth - Innocence by Electric Youth (Official) on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

07:08:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085446 = 15.6366 BTC [+] {2}

07:25:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 200 @ 0.04405928 = 8.8119 BTC [-]

07:30:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00085242 = 14.9174 BTC [-] {2}

07:52:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0203 = 0.1624 BTC [+]

08:05:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25741559 = 0.7722 BTC [-] {2}

08:06:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.25335334 = 0.7601 BTC [-] {2}

08:07:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.24378666 = 2.1941 BTC [-] {3}

08:08:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.242 = 2.42 BTC [-]

08:28:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00085449 = 20.0378 BTC [+]

08:29:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.241 BTC [-]

08:47:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085471 = 15.6412 BTC [+] {2}

08:51:52 FabianB: mpexbot is gone?

08:52:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26899 BTC [+]

08:59:37 FabianB: kakobrekla: can you include former mpexbot commands $depth, $vwap and $proxies into assbot ?

09:02:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.0008522 = 14.6578 BTC [-]

09:28:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0008522 = 29.4009 BTC [-]

09:40:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0737 = 0.4422 BTC [-]

10:06:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1975 @ 0.00085501 = 1.6886 BTC [+]

10:10:51 dub: is that a fucking parallel port on mp's laptop?

10:12:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00085501 = 16.2452 BTC [+]

10:13:13 dub: and why is there a small boat next to him on the couch

10:25:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00085501 = 8.5073 BTC [+]

10:32:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22650 @ 0.00085571 = 19.3818 BTC [+] {3}

11:16:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00085216 = 10.0555 BTC [-] {4}

11:20:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07451065 = 1.1177 BTC [+] {5}

11:22:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14541 @ 0.00085152 = 12.382 BTC [-]

11:41:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16757 @ 0.00085014 = 14.2458 BTC [-] {2}

12:26:59 pankkake: http://www.coindesk.com/nine-best-cryptocurrency-tattoos/ :|

12:26:59 assbot: Nine of the Best Cryptocurrency Tattoos

12:35:05 fluffypony: LOL

12:35:08 fluffypony: Bitcoin Life

12:35:09 fluffypony: lol!!!

12:35:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11463 @ 0.00085043 = 9.7485 BTC [+] {2}

12:43:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07475576 = 0.9718 BTC [+] {2}

13:07:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07476 = 0.7476 BTC [+]

13:10:55 thestringpuller: ;;seen BingoBoingo

13:10:55 gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 6 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> Vexual: Everything is abnormal and everything is great

13:11:03 thestringpuller: ;;later tell BingoBoingo was out cold

13:11:03 gribble: The operation succeeded.

13:25:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02394 = 0.1197 BTC [-]

13:26:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0200005 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}

13:28:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.02323145 = 0.3717 BTC [-] {5}

13:34:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18337 @ 0.00085424 = 15.6642 BTC [+]

13:35:06 thestringpuller: !mpif

13:35:08 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.44 BTC)

13:35:19 thestringpuller: !last m f.mpif

13:35:19 assbot: Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+]

13:35:33 thestringpuller: !ticker m f.mpif

13:35:33 assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (124310 shares, 26.99 BTC)

13:37:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 240 @ 0.04405928 = 10.5742 BTC [-]

13:39:23 kakobrekla: !mpif

13:39:24 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.44 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+]

13:39:35 kakobrekla: added !last to !mpif call

13:50:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00085029 = 6.7249 BTC [-]

14:03:50 thestringpuller: !last mpif

14:03:50 assbot: Have you got any tobacco?

14:04:00 thestringpuller: oh

14:04:01 thestringpuller: !mpif

14:04:02 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021721 BTC (Total: 434.43 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021725 BTC [+]

14:07:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-]

14:08:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00085101 = 2.0424 BTC [+]

14:14:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0268 = 0.1608 BTC [-]

14:50:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0747 = 0.2241 BTC [-]

14:51:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12609 @ 0.00084984 = 10.7156 BTC [-] {2}

15:21:43 mircea_popescu: someonme should make a cheese flavbour chewing gum

15:23:56 mircea_popescu: benkay: i miss the cream in argentina. << dude you have no idea what cream is. go to transylvania, have some, let me know.

15:24:02 mircea_popescu: the cream here is like... okay. tolerable.

15:27:27 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: jeezus mp, there 23 footnotes in this article << I'm the king of the footnotes, the references V.I.P

15:31:08 mircea_popescu: I reached the top and had to stop and that's what bothering me

15:33:19 mircea_popescu: Vexual: i like to slow cook the way the flavours develop << aye.

15:35:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/mircea-popescu-is-an-asshole/

15:35:35 dignork: https://www.startjoin.com/trollc this will end in tears

15:37:53 mircea_popescu: benkay: there's gotta be good soil down in ars << good soil requires three to six millenia's worth of menarche spilled on it. argentina soil will get there right about year 6000

15:39:12 mircea_popescu: FabianB: mpexbot is gone? << smickles kinda disappeared sadly. would you like to run a mpexbot clone ?

15:40:00 mircea_popescu: dub: is that a fucking parallel port on mp's laptop? << some peeps are old skool like that dubsy. you wouldn't understand.

15:41:25 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: added !last to !mpif call << pretty cool.

15:43:07 mircea_popescu: !up Littlep1

15:43:16 Littlep1: ^^

15:43:42 mircea_popescu: and who might you be ?

15:43:48 Littlep1: Malcolm

15:43:52 kakobrekla: wait so the dude did take mpex offline or am i reading this wrong

15:44:20 Littlep1: ;;auth Littlep1

15:44:20 gribble: Error: You have not registered a GPG key. Try using bcauth instead, or register a GPG key first.

15:44:25 kakobrekla: i mean the proxyies or smth

15:44:26 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla for some definition of offline

15:44:34 FabianB: mircea_popescu: assbot only lacks 3 commands, if kakobrekla doesn't like to integrate them i can run an mpexbot clone, but i'd prefer the assbot route

15:44:34 Littlep1: ;;bcauth Littlep1

15:44:34 gribble: Request successful for user Littlep1, hostmask Littlep1!56b01083@gateway/web/freenode/ip. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:24085ba1a630433bf9128bdd9cb371bdf715a1d6151ef7edb327f8d2

15:44:50 mircea_popescu: FabianB meanwhile i'd prefer two bots. what if kako gets sick one day

15:44:52 kakobrekla: yeah ill put them on

15:45:00 fluffypony: I wanna be a man, man cub

15:45:06 mircea_popescu: (also i'll pay for teh hosting of it)

15:45:06 fluffypony: and roll right into town

15:45:10 *: fluffypony sings

15:45:15 mircea_popescu: fluffypony great cartoon eh

15:45:15 fluffypony: now I have that stuck in my head

15:45:40 kakobrekla: whats the url to that stuff again

15:45:45 fluffypony: it's among my favourites

15:46:14 mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/mpex-mktdepth.php ?

15:46:23 kakobrekla: aha k

15:46:31 Littlep1: ;;msg +mircea_popescu Thank you

15:46:32 gribble: Error: "msg" is not a valid command.

15:46:36 FabianB: mircea_popescu: hosting costs are not an issue, let me think about it; maybe we can do both, an mpexbot clone and kako integrating the missing commands as well (so an irc client doesn't have to rely on both)

15:46:44 mircea_popescu: yup

15:46:46 kakobrekla: Littlep1 less syntax

15:47:12 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust Littlep1

15:47:13 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user Littlep1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=Littlep1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Littlep1 | Rated since: Sun Jun 8 09:51:05 2014

15:47:39 Littlep1: :) I am not ashamed to say I have no clue what the hell is going on

15:47:41 mircea_popescu: o i c.

15:47:42 mircea_popescu: lol

15:47:51 FabianB: kakobrekla: /mpex-mktdepth.php, /mpex-vwap.php

15:47:53 mircea_popescu: ;;google towlie

15:47:54 gribble: Towelie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Towelie; South Park Towlie on Drugs - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSEkfqlDilU; Towelie's Best Moments - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77TbTNRQFNY

15:48:10 Littlep1: By the grace of god with the few brain cells in my head im going to crack this thing

15:48:14 kakobrekla: yes the vwap is already implemented FabianB , that is the ticker cmd

15:48:17 Littlep1: or my skull

15:49:00 FabianB: kakobrekla: yeah, but not with raw json

15:49:36 mircea_popescu: Littlep1 so what do you do, other than btctardstalk

15:49:47 kakobrekla: Littlep1 this box you seen on the screen, you type stuff in and everyone that is connected in that box can see

15:49:57 Littlep1: I see how do i Pm then ?

15:50:01 mircea_popescu: /query name

15:50:08 FabianB: kakobrekla: if mpex.co is down and mpex only reachable by ircbots traders want to know the full orderbook (depth) and raw vwap

15:50:45 kakobrekla: waddayamean raw vwap

15:50:52 kakobrekla: ticker has it all no?

15:51:14 kakobrekla: im not talking about depth now

15:51:26 mircea_popescu: !t m s.mpoe

15:51:27 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00084612 / 0.00085343 / 0.00085939 (640220 shares, 546.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00079351 / 0.00085994 / 0.0008834 (5312758 shares, 4,568.65 BTC), 30D: 0.00079351 / 0.00090996 / 0.00101 (25156123 shares, 22,891.24 BTC)

15:51:34 FabianB: kakobrekla: for all simbols (and parseable)

15:51:49 kakobrekla: want it snailmailed too?

15:51:52 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: why you lookin' up towelie?

15:51:54 mircea_popescu: lol

15:52:05 thestringpuller: are you a towel?

15:52:07 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well this guy was like "i have no idea what's going on"

15:52:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.02689996 = 0.1614 BTC [+] {2}

15:52:18 thestringpuller: cause he's a towel!

15:52:20 Littlep1: hahaha

15:52:23 thestringpuller: "no you're a towel"

15:52:35 FabianB: kakobrekla: mpexbot used to make a pastie with a copy of the json

15:52:37 Littlep1: Not watched SP in ages

15:52:37 mircea_popescu: i am 12 and what's a towel.

15:52:45 kakobrekla: FabianB ok that i can do

15:53:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.02699977 = 0.135 BTC [+]

15:54:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00084804 = 26.0348 BTC [-] {2}

15:54:58 mircea_popescu: 1.) mircea_popescu 1753 2.) assbot 1632 dat assbot, putting up an amazing fight

15:54:58 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

15:55:04 mircea_popescu: ty.

15:55:41 mircea_popescu: but irrespective of your amazing powers of resistence, you will be ass imiliated.

15:55:41 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

15:56:00 assbot: fuck you

15:56:06 mircea_popescu: llol

15:56:45 mircea_popescu: 1.) assbot 7081 2.) mircea_popescu 7015 THIS INIQUITY CAN NOT STAND!

15:58:57 FabianB: mircea_popescu: do you have the code of mpexbot?

15:59:11 Littlep1: /msg <kakobrekla> <test 4 did you get this pm ?>

15:59:20 Littlep1: -_-

15:59:20 kakobrekla: nope

15:59:22 Littlep1: omg

15:59:26 mircea_popescu: i will just as soon as smickles gets back online ;/

15:59:33 mircea_popescu: FabianB ima shoot him an email.

15:59:48 kakobrekla: Littlep1 perhaps you can double click my name from the list and type something in there

15:59:53 kakobrekla: if anything happens

15:59:56 mircea_popescu: that works in webirc ?

15:59:57 Littlep1: this is so embarrassing

16:00:06 kakobrekla: i think so

16:00:09 mircea_popescu: Littlep1 AND it's being recorded for all prosterity.

16:00:10 kakobrekla: dunno

16:00:13 FabianB: mircea_popescu: ah, great, well, if not we can rewrite it, but not unless needed

16:00:15 Littlep1: hahhaha

16:00:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.86802792 BTC to 8`734 shares, 21388 satoshi per share

16:00:29 Littlep1: at least your making sure I have a good time

16:00:50 Littlep1: i'm going to force each one of my brokers to get this done after me and watch them all suffer

16:00:55 kakobrekla: anyway, remove the space before / and all the < and > you typed, then it should werk

16:01:19 Littlep1: kk thnkx ill try again

16:01:41 kakobrekla: if it throws an error try "/query kakobrekla" instead of whatever else

16:02:40 mircea_popescu: !up nullbyte

16:03:24 Littlep1: did th...hmm it says no such nick/channel

16:03:48 kakobrekla: well i dunno

16:03:55 kakobrekla: im not a webchat expert!

16:04:21 kakobrekla: well, great success nao

16:04:22 Littlep1: THANK YOU ^^

16:04:45 kakobrekla: step 1 complete

16:04:55 kakobrekla: you have still a few min left to complete the rest 399 steps

16:05:10 kakobrekla: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation

16:05:10 assbot: wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]

16:05:11 mircea_popescu: lol

16:05:18 kakobrekla: no wrong link

16:05:19 kakobrekla: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets

16:05:19 assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]

16:05:20 Littlep1: :)

16:05:21 kakobrekla: this one

16:05:32 Littlep1: This is like my right of passage

16:05:51 Littlep1: mircea you won't remember but i sent you a Pm i think last year thanking you ^^

16:06:04 mircea_popescu: where ?

16:06:17 Littlep1: If your the same person I think you are on Bitcoin talk

16:07:13 mircea_popescu: a, that was mpoe-pr

16:07:42 mircea_popescu: lol dude stop pming me

16:07:48 Littlep1: sorry

16:08:09 kakobrekla: i taught him that.

16:08:13 Littlep1: ahahahha

16:08:21 Littlep1: for the world to know foreverr

16:08:46 mircea_popescu: lol sabotage

16:08:51 Littlep1: God you must all be so funny in real life

16:09:23 Littlep1: You literally have had me laughing my ass off over here

16:10:02 kakobrekla: yeah well read the logs

16:10:04 kakobrekla: :p

16:10:14 kakobrekla: ;;topic

16:10:14 gribble: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com

16:10:42 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMoDUBIg00

16:10:42 assbot: That's NOT funny!!! - YouTube

16:11:23 Littlep1: mircea_popescu I are you liked to Mpex ?

16:11:50 mircea_popescu: i am well liked and admired by my subjects yes

16:11:53 mircea_popescu: what was the question ?

16:12:50 Littlep1: Just curious recently i made a post on Bitcoin talk to list all fradualent compaines i'm creating a list of corproate failres ect ect and people were accusing Mpex of false volumes or something. Some users equally defended Mpex reqesting proof

16:12:57 Littlep1: omfg

16:13:02 Littlep1: linked to Mpex *

16:13:13 mircea_popescu: a. yes, we share some initials.

16:13:23 Littlep1: ^^ :)

16:13:27 Littlep1: If i ever meet you

16:13:31 Littlep1: im buying you a drink

16:13:52 mircea_popescu: pretty good famous last words.

16:14:13 kakobrekla: you know, i could up him.

16:14:29 mircea_popescu: trying to decide which way is funnier

16:14:50 mircea_popescu: !up Littlep1

16:14:57 kakobrekla: was just about to dice it.

16:15:06 Littlep1: I'm aliveeee

16:15:19 mircea_popescu: can you chain actions on gribble's dice ?

16:15:55 kakobrekla: prolly i could

16:15:59 mircea_popescu: Littlep1 you can meet me next year. http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/

16:16:01 assbot: The conference, third edition pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

16:16:32 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla do this thing : !dup Littlep1 results in assbot going ;;dice and upping on heads

16:16:49 mircea_popescu: ;;coin

16:16:49 kakobrekla: hm

16:16:49 gribble: tails

16:16:50 mircea_popescu: i mean

16:17:11 kakobrekla: not sure whats the point of gribble, dont you trust my pnrg??

16:17:19 mircea_popescu: for display

16:17:24 mircea_popescu: so the noob sees it lol

16:17:27 kakobrekla: posterity

16:17:36 Littlep1: :)

16:17:44 Littlep1: i'm not ashamed I know what I am

16:17:49 kakobrekla: imma go out now, later.

16:17:56 Littlep1: thanks again mate

16:18:03 mircea_popescu: holy shit kako goes out now ?!

16:18:08 mircea_popescu: how long have i been asleep!

16:18:16 kakobrekla: dun worry its not too far.

16:18:22 Littlep1: xD

16:18:29 mircea_popescu: aok

16:21:49 Littlep1: I'll study that guide and give it a go later. Interesting I often read the fraudsters blog back in the day

16:23:23 mircea_popescu: what day was that ?

16:23:44 mircea_popescu: and who were you on btctalk -pr wants to know ?

16:25:20 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust bitstein

16:25:20 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bitstein: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bitstein | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitstein | Rated since: Thu May 29 11:37:42 2014

16:25:29 Littlep1: Malcolm .. oh wait Little P bit

16:25:35 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitstein re http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-100549 remind me, which service do you run ?

16:25:36 assbot: The conference, third edition pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

16:25:36 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:26:00 Littlep1: Little P 1

16:26:26 Littlep1: is my bitcoin talk adde

16:26:39 mircea_popescu: aite.

16:26:42 Littlep1: Pr put a post up about crypto start ups in 2013

16:27:08 Littlep1: and i thought it was really good so I sent him/her a pm thanking them since I made use of it when setting up my own

16:27:15 mircea_popescu: aha

16:27:47 mircea_popescu: so what crypto start-up is this ?

16:28:36 Littlep1: It's only small im trying to create crypto investment products in the UK its called Cryptovest

16:28:49 Littlep1: Cryptovest Financial Services

16:29:10 mircea_popescu: what's your background ?

16:29:13 Littlep1: My hope is to educate more non techy people on getting involved with crypto currencies

16:29:15 Littlep1: banking

16:29:19 Littlep1: private equity

16:29:22 Littlep1: asset managment

16:29:23 pankkake: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2014#707655

16:29:23 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

16:29:24 Littlep1: risk analysis

16:29:47 mircea_popescu: Littlep1 that's vague. specifically, what;s your background.

16:29:53 Littlep1: sorry not Cryptovest

16:30:07 Littlep1: search me on google dude wait do u mind if I pm you now ?

16:30:30 mircea_popescu: yes. i don't carry private conversations with people i don't know.

16:30:41 mircea_popescu: i'm sure anything you want to say to me can be said here as well.

16:30:50 Littlep1: Yea i guess

16:30:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11162 @ 0.00084778 = 9.4629 BTC [-] {2}

16:31:04 Littlep1: give me a moment ill find you a link

16:33:51 Littlep1: http://wiki.timetotrade.eu/Malcolm_Oluwasanmi

16:33:52 assbot: Malcolm Oluwasanmi - timetotrade

16:34:30 Littlep1: what did assbot just do did it reach the code and then auto post under it

16:34:53 Littlep1: I have alot to learn

16:34:54 mircea_popescu: yea

16:35:16 Littlep1: Right thats alot from when i spoke about bitcoin to some HNW investors

16:35:36 Littlep1: http://wiki.timetotrade.eu/National_Investment_Club_Conference

16:35:36 assbot: National Investment Club Conference - timetotrade

16:36:48 Littlep1: Mostly spoke about volatile , hedging , methods to reduce risks with exotic currencies and applying the same methods to crypto currencies with the application of a risk engine.

16:37:13 Littlep1: volatility*

16:37:21 mircea_popescu: a so you worked for bri and then went out on your own

16:37:26 Littlep1: nope

16:37:29 Littlep1: then i wen

16:37:31 Littlep1: give me a moment

16:38:21 Littlep1: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=malcolm+oluwasanmi

16:38:21 assbot: Let me google that for you

16:38:51 Littlep1: I was still at University then so i set up a University Investment fund in 2011

16:39:07 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If I remember correctly bitstein does something with the Satoshi institute.

16:39:35 Littlep1: In 2012 we created an alternative investment fund not much and with that we focused on arb strategies with crypto currencies around 2013

16:40:13 Littlep1: Then i stumbled on a way to get around the counter party risk element and decided to leave my job at Lloydsbank

16:40:32 Littlep1: to raise the funding to operate it full time

16:41:28 Littlep1: im still a noob but im trying

16:42:27 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo o right you are

16:42:40 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitstein nm BingoBoingo got me

16:42:40 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:43:15 Littlep1: what operation is gribble talking about ?

16:44:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00084957 = 7.5187 BTC [+]

16:44:17 BingoBoingo: Littlep1: Lodging a message to deliver later.

16:45:15 BingoBoingo: !up Littlep1

16:46:08 mircea_popescu: !up userguy243

16:46:41 mircea_popescu: Littlep1 can you prove your bmi connection ?

16:46:53 Littlep1: Do u mean BRI ?

16:47:01 mircea_popescu: yes

16:47:14 Littlep1: hmmmyou could always call them and ask :s

16:47:18 Littlep1: or drop them an email

16:47:19 mircea_popescu: aite.

16:47:26 Littlep1: its on my CV

16:47:29 Littlep1: and on Linked in

16:47:42 Littlep1: they were not that ig jsut about 750 mil

16:47:52 Littlep1: big*

16:47:57 Littlep1: But it was a lovely place to work

16:48:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02394809 = 0.2395 BTC [+] {3}

16:48:26 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety hey, when you're back please call http://www.brigroup.co.uk/ ask them if a certain mr Malcolm Oluwasanmi that used to work there left you any kind of message.

16:48:27 assbot: BRI Wealth Management - Investment & Portfolio Management

16:48:27 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:48:36 mircea_popescu: Littlep1 so leave moiety a message.

16:49:01 Littlep1: left them any kind of message?

16:49:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0747 = 0.5229 BTC [-]

16:49:14 mircea_popescu: well yes

16:49:14 Littlep1: What does that mean ?

16:49:21 Littlep1: I used to work there years ago

16:49:29 Littlep1: I didn't leave a message

16:49:37 mircea_popescu: right right, but looky here

16:49:37 Littlep1: just a few coffe stains

16:49:46 mircea_popescu: anyone can claim they worked in x place years ago.

16:49:51 mircea_popescu: we're trying to verify this

16:49:54 mircea_popescu: and you proposed i call them

16:50:11 Littlep1: meh ok go for it.

16:50:43 mircea_popescu: well unless you also get in touch with them it'll fail and i'll go "oh, littlep is that guy that tried to impersonate Malcolm Oluwasanmi on irc one day"

16:50:46 Littlep1: meh ok go for it.i have not spoken with them in a while though mention I was black that might spark their memory

16:51:00 Littlep1: they will be like Malcolm who >.>

16:51:10 mircea_popescu: gotta have a hr dept no ?

16:51:10 Littlep1: ahhhh the tall dark handsome one

16:51:31 Littlep1: it was pretty small i'm sure they will recall me many of them are on my linked in connections still

16:51:37 mircea_popescu: yes but step with me here : i'm not trying to verify a black guy by x name worked there at some point.

16:51:43 mircea_popescu: im trying to verifyYOU're that black guy.

16:52:06 Littlep1: I know a way you can do it do you have skype ?

16:52:06 mircea_popescu: so give them a call and ask em to please say hi to moiety if she calls for you.

16:52:24 Littlep1: moiety ?

16:52:27 mircea_popescu: moiety does. she's our secretary.

16:52:32 userguy243: thanks for the voice mircea

16:52:38 mircea_popescu: sure

16:52:55 Littlep1: Do I pronounce it Mo - etty ?

16:53:10 Littlep1: I will just drop them an email. It has been over 3-4 years

16:53:14 mircea_popescu: works

16:53:30 Littlep1: In fact that will work for you as well send them an email

16:53:55 Littlep1: ask for Paul my old boss to verify if Malcolm O ever used to work there

16:53:58 mircea_popescu: i dont trustemails.

16:53:59 Apocalyptic: you're missing the point

16:54:18 Littlep1: are you trying to be smart :) and promote the WOT

16:54:27 Littlep1: okok ill get to it

16:54:28 Littlep1: this week

16:54:41 Littlep1: il even try to crack GPG or w.e its called

16:55:04 Littlep1: i thought i registred this wallet with gribble

16:55:18 Littlep1: but the guide on bitoin assets wiki looks much better

16:55:43 Littlep1: but if u ever do want to prove who I am... call me on skype add Cryptovest

16:55:53 Littlep1: also if u ever need to hedge the BTC price

16:56:18 Littlep1: to make an order in the future like buy a house or a car ect

16:56:35 Littlep1: or hedge your mining rig hosting costs

16:57:04 Littlep1: i have nothing to hide

16:57:09 mircea_popescu: sorta like x.eur ?

16:57:52 *: Littlep1 stands and pretends to understand what x.eur means

16:58:01 mircea_popescu: !t m x.eur

16:58:01 assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00206766 / 0.00212705 / 0.00216962 (3761 shares, 8.00 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00248318 / 0.0031169 (11792 shares, 29.28 BTC)

16:58:29 mircea_popescu: you can also read the contracton mpex/discussion on fraudsters

17:00:08 Littlep1: erm i have like 4 people pming me about hedging services

17:00:16 Littlep1: im still new to this chat so please bear with me

17:00:24 fluffypony: oh Littlep1 is the one that commented on my Lilac Breasted Usagi bird video

17:00:30 *: fluffypony just made the connection

17:00:33 Littlep1: HEY FLUFFY XD

17:01:41 fluffypony: necro'd thread of the day: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80141.0;all

17:01:41 assbot: Announcing GPUMoney, Monetize Your Gaming! GPUMoney.com

17:04:32 Littlep1: yes that was me lol

17:04:50 Littlep1: I couldnt stop laugthing I thought i was going to die. I fell off my chair when i realised what you had done

17:05:11 Littlep1: he sent me an email about the corporate failures list threatening to sue me

17:05:22 Apocalyptic: usagi ?

17:05:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00240155 = 0.2113 BTC [-] {2}

17:05:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.24208859 = 2.4209 BTC [-] {3}

17:06:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00085011 = 15.557 BTC [+] {2}

17:06:32 mircea_popescu: fucking "smart" peripherals and fuckingidiots making them

17:07:00 mircea_popescu: so thos monitor keeps thinking it knows better what resolution to run on than me

17:07:29 mircea_popescu: soon the keyboards will come with word replacementchips and im going tostart using small arms on random people.

17:07:47 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/21ZDZ9P.txt )

17:07:47 BingoBoingo: !b 3

17:08:15 xmj: benkay: you around?

17:08:53 pankkake: didn't apple invent it already? autocorrect without asking you

17:08:54 mircea_popescu: Littlep1 i wouldn't worry too much, he already sold his guitar in 2013

17:09:05 pankkake: because they knowbetter than you

17:09:09 mircea_popescu: pankkake if it did i was blisfully unaware

17:10:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00085042 = 4.1245 BTC [+] {3}

17:10:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.242 = 1.694 BTC [-]

17:15:34 mircea_popescu: http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/ << not bad write-up at all

17:15:34 assbot: On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance

17:17:35 mircea_popescu: "Mom and pop get arrested for, what, receiving a note and having time or energy or impetus to check?"

17:17:39 mircea_popescu: missing a negative there

17:18:11 *: fluffypony checks

17:18:14 fluffypony: ah

17:18:16 fluffypony: fail

17:19:31 fluffypony: k fixed

17:20:09 mircea_popescu: ;;dexx7 http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/#comment-1361730776 << you should make your own blogyou know.

17:20:10 assbot: On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance

17:20:10 gribble: Error: "dexx7" is not a valid command.

17:20:15 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell dexx7 http://blog.spagni.net/posts/2014-04-24/#comment-1361730776 << you should make your own blogyou know.

17:20:15 assbot: On MaidSafe's futility, and on Daniel Larimer's ignorance

17:20:15 gribble: The operation succeeded.

17:20:54 mircea_popescu: "He later backtracked over his statement later saying it was out-of-context"

17:20:56 mircea_popescu: gotta proof yo

17:21:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10098 @ 0.00085105 = 8.5939 BTC [+] {2}

17:22:38 *: fluffypony link is fucked, will fix, but it's linked straight after that statement - https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=4090.msg54901#msg54901

17:22:39 assbot: MaidSafe IPO on Mastercoin - page 11 - General Discussion - BitShares Forum

17:24:11 mircea_popescu: also that show more thing is annoying if you ask me

17:24:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07352183 = 0.2206 BTC [-] {2}

17:24:51 mircea_popescu: !up realzies

17:29:02 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo turns out rabite decided to go derp instead. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-06-2014#708384

17:29:03 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

17:30:04 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I saw and was saddened.

17:30:19 mircea_popescu: people can't think.

17:31:09 mircea_popescu: anyway, i won't touch it now, so i guess time for publishin' archives.

17:34:21 fluffypony: hmmmm - just discovered that with ssls.com (where I get all my cheap Comodo domain validation certs from) all of their domain validation certs are 2048-bit key length max

17:34:33 BingoBoingo: ;;google site:fraudsters.com art of punishment

17:34:34 gribble: The bitchslapping of 2013… pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/the-bitchslapping-of-2013; Economic cycles finally explained pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea ...: http://fraudsters.com/2014/economic-cycles-finally-explained/; La Florida and other places pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/

17:34:56 fluffypony: where can I get a domain validation cert that allows 4096-bit or 8192-bit? don't want an EV or OV cert

17:37:30 mircea_popescu: there's reallyno solutions ot the pki crap.

17:37:49 mircea_popescu: drop https, basically.

17:39:07 fluffypony: yeah this is ridiculous

17:39:07 benkay: <Littlep1> il even try to crack GPG or w.e its called // http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130809163709/vampirediaries/images/0/02/Kool-aid-man.jpg

17:39:21 fluffypony: my choices are self-signed 4096-bit or EV, fuck EV

17:40:12 davout: fluffypony: what's wrong with EV + signed key?

17:40:31 davout: best of both worlds

17:40:37 davout: also nice blog post

17:41:12 fluffypony: davout: too much time required for what is supposed to be a relatively simple experiment

17:41:14 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://fraudsters.com/2014/i-saw-and-was-saddened/ there you go

17:41:16 assbot: “I saw, and was saddened.” pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

17:41:26 mircea_popescu: and i trust you've seen your signed damages statement ?

17:41:41 fluffypony: I wouldn't mind the cost if they processed stuff 24 hours a day and I got a cert within minutes

17:41:47 fluffypony: and thanks

17:41:51 mircea_popescu: or ritalin with everyorder.

17:42:18 davout: the last ev cert i got was ridiculous

17:42:24 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed. I'm working on a blog post atm addressing the legal situation.

17:42:35 davout: "we need to verify your phone number is the actual phone number for the company"

17:42:47 mircea_popescu: "so look it up" ?

17:43:06 davout: "so if you could please register your company in that online directory that doesn't check shit whatsoever, that'd be great"

17:43:13 mircea_popescu: !up bitcoinhtx

17:43:26 fluffypony: davout: "and then we'll get back to you within 3-7 working days"

17:43:41 mircea_popescu: why do you people even put up with this shit is beyond me

17:43:44 davout: "please fill a web form on some unrelated site"

17:43:57 mircea_popescu: just so some forum tards possessed of .1 btc don't bitch about your "very poor security" which they don't grok ?

17:44:03 davout: fluffypony: in this case it was relatively quick and painless

17:44:08 davout: but also useless

17:44:52 davout: on the subject of not groking security andreas derpopoulos is the fucking best

17:45:00 mircea_popescu: whatever you do empowers whoever you're doing it with. when you fill in some webform for the retardation, you strengthen the retardation.

17:45:15 mircea_popescu: "even davout uses our system"

17:45:17 mircea_popescu: what then ?

17:45:19 fluffypony: hah hah

17:45:29 fluffypony: "AS USED BY DAVOUT" splashed across the front page

17:45:33 mircea_popescu: ayup

17:45:37 davout: bah

17:45:47 mircea_popescu: "davout got his start in his early days from our company"

17:46:00 davout: oh boy

17:46:08 mircea_popescu: yes well. there be consequences.

17:46:19 fluffypony: consequences will never be the same

17:46:29 davout: would you download a consequence?

17:46:29 fluffypony: you dun goof'd

17:47:11 mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> "AS USED BY DAVOUT" splashed across the front page << and you know the only reason - and i do mean the ONLY reason - this is not happening right now is because he's not big enough yet.

17:48:03 fluffypony: yep

17:51:47 mircea_popescu: "Davos: I turned down an invitation to speak at the World Economic Congress in Davos (for no honorarium) ? in spite of the argument for ?interaction with global leaders? (they sent me a list of hotshots: almost no one worth having conversation with). I?d rather spend time working in a caf?, with real people around."

17:59:04 mircea_popescu: pity he doesn't have an irc chan to invite them to move over (for no honorarium)

18:00:20 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/i-saw-and-was-saddened/

18:30:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00085067 = 16.4179 BTC [-] {2}

18:32:27 benkay: morning, princessnell

18:32:46 princessnell: hey benkay. how's it going?

18:33:54 BingoBoingo: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/08/inconvenience/

18:33:55 assbot: Inconvenience | Bingo Blog

18:35:20 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/08/inconvenience/

18:35:38 benkay: rather well, princessnell. things are cooking. yourself?

18:38:22 fluffypony: penguirker is getting faster

18:38:23 fluffypony: :-P

18:38:54 princessnell: good to hear. all's well with me.

18:39:50 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: It is taking its time doing so though

18:40:29 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: pankkake should rewrite it using Swift and then host it on iCloud and use push notifications from blogs

18:40:31 fluffypony: problem solved

18:42:12 pankkake: blogs.b-a polls every 7 minutes, and sends to irc immediately

18:42:48 pankkake: there are ping/subscribe systems, but it doesn't support it

18:43:10 mthreat: BingoBoingo: Just read your blog post. It's a common negotiating technique to use the "I want to do X but my superior won't let me", making you feel like you're in the same side against his superior.

18:43:31 mthreat: BingoBoingo: You could file a motion for speedy trial, which should force them to hold it within 90 days (in the US)

18:44:13 kakobrekla: lol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg7196350#msg7196350

18:44:13 assbot: Starting a new FPGA mining farm/contract! Cognitive Resurrected on[Havelock]

18:44:17 BingoBoingo: mthreat: Of course. The thing is I'm not seeking a risky trial in front of a jury full of idiots.

18:44:31 mthreat: BingoBoingo: and they probably know that

18:45:15 BingoBoingo: mthreat: The thing is I know they don't want a trial either.

18:45:34 mircea_popescu: resurected again ?!

18:46:26 mircea_popescu: lol reselling .1 btc worth of "information"

18:46:28 kakobrekla: resurrected in a sense they are again lookin at where the moneies gone

18:46:37 kakobrekla: yeah

18:46:44 kakobrekla: its pretty funnie

18:46:45 mircea_popescu: anywya, im out. laters.

18:46:51 kakobrekla: cya

18:50:51 jurov: Littlep1: http://explo.yt/post/2013/12/16/All-about-X.EUR-future-on-MPEx

18:50:51 assbot: All about X.EUR future on MPEx - serialized delusions

18:51:46 kakobrekla: he is down btw

18:57:36 kakobrekla: !up Swadq

18:57:42 kakobrekla: fuckin assbot

18:58:28 CheckDavid: kakobrekla: how is that fpga project going?

18:58:58 kakobrekla: hum?

18:59:15 kakobrekla: you know people have asics now

18:59:27 CheckDavid: I do.

18:59:51 CheckDavid: But I am involved with an FPGA project

19:00:01 CheckDavid: For mining

19:00:12 CheckDavid: Not much for sha2 though

19:00:22 CheckDavid: More like scrypt and other algos

19:00:51 kakobrekla: !up Swadq

19:01:06 kakobrekla: !up Swadq

19:01:15 kakobrekla: now you can talk here as well.

19:01:24 Swadq: Great, thank you :)

19:01:31 kakobrekla: CheckDavid well im not the expert on the matter.

19:02:25 kakobrekla: anyway this is Swadq , some new bitcoin blood, he made a tipping bot or something and thats all i know

19:02:54 Swadq: Hello guys :)

19:03:43 kakobrekla: anyway you asked what is the purpuse of this chan, nobody knows but if you are going to be in one, be in this one.

19:04:14 Swadq: Ha, fair enough! Thank you

19:04:21 Swadq: I was just reading over bitcoin-assets.com

19:04:34 Swadq: I’m not entirely sure what the “how to get listed” section is referring to

19:04:57 kakobrekla: its not for you prolly then

19:05:00 kakobrekla: :)

19:05:46 Swadq: Fair enough - is it something to do with adding a new exchange to the bot?

19:05:56 kakobrekla: something like that yea

19:06:48 Swadq: Are you the op here, then?

19:07:22 kakobrekla: http://fraudsters.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/

19:07:23 assbot: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:08:30 Swadq: Thank you

19:17:56 BingoBoingo: %ticker

19:17:58 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 144 Ask: 270 Last Price: 273 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A

19:18:00 BingoBoingo: %book

19:18:02 atcbot: 40k@278 28k@277 2k@270 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142

19:18:21 BingoBoingo: %diff

19:18:23 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 130223.83 in 1902 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -81.80

19:24:49 CheckDavid: kakobrekla: you know what the good thing about FPGAs is?

19:24:58 CheckDavid: They can mine multiple algorithms

19:25:13 CheckDavid: And be repurposed easily for any other coin mining

19:29:46 fluffypony: AND they're slow and expensive

19:29:49 fluffypony: so win win win, really

19:29:56 fluffypony: (relatively slow)

19:34:13 benkay: !up Swadq what we need is a coin tuned for fpga and cpu architectures

19:34:51 chetty: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/computer-becomes-first-to-pass-turing-test-in-artificial-intelligence-milestone-but-academics-warn-of-dangerous-future-9508370.html

19:34:51 assbot: Computer becomes first to pass Turing Test in artificial intelligence milestone, but academics warn of dangerous future - Gadgets and Tech - Life & Style - The Independent

19:35:39 jurov: lol just wanted to past it

19:36:33 kakobrekla: > It convinced 33 per cent of the judges that it was human,

19:36:35 kakobrekla: how is this a pass

19:36:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00085015 = 3.4006 BTC [-]

19:37:43 jurov: benkay such coin would be only feasible if it often completely and unpredictably changed its algoritm

19:40:30 BingoBoingo: http://www.zdnet.com/thanks-for-nothing-jerkface-7000030306/

19:40:32 assbot: Thanks for nothing, jerkface | ZDNet

19:45:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00084809 = 22.9408 BTC [-] {3}

19:46:28 jurov: ;;bc,stats

19:46:41 gribble: Current Blocks: 304843 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1588 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 15 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

19:46:50 benkay: chetty: did you read the one about bots accumulating piles of followers?

19:46:59 benkay: (on twitter, that is)

19:47:47 xmj: bots following bots?

19:50:18 chetty: benkay, yeah, bots are better than ppls, I believe it

19:57:37 jurov: http://www.nature.com/news/environment-accelerate-research-on-land-creation-1.15327 huh,another leap forward?

19:57:37 assbot: Environment: Accelerate research on land creation : Nature News & Comment

19:57:45 CheckDavid: fluffypony: as far as I know they are only slow compared to asics

19:58:04 fluffypony: CheckDavid: depends on the algorithm

19:58:39 fluffypony: shit like X11 and X13 may use less power on an FPGA

19:58:59 CheckDavid: Yes. And how it is programmed into the board

19:59:25 fluffypony: but I would imagine it's a lot harder to write that than wrote it for OpenCL or CUDA

19:59:29 Naphex: o/

20:00:56 CheckDavid: I wish I knew what that was fluffypony

20:03:40 benkay: tests are passing. what was i working on before the tests all went sour?

20:09:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2425 = 0.485 BTC [+] {2}

20:20:45 fluffypony: CheckDavid: OpenCL and CUDA are for GPU processing

20:21:00 CheckDavid: I see.

20:21:33 fluffypony: and s/wrote/writing

20:21:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00084607 = 14.8485 BTC [-] {3}

20:22:49 kakobrekla: !up teward

20:22:56 *: kakobrekla triggered wot police

20:23:45 teward: eheh.... kakobrekla, not really, you triggered the "suspicious" flag for me, usually happens when i'm out of the loop :P

20:24:03 *: teward lurks

20:24:18 kakobrekla: no work, no sin.

20:25:27 teward: :P

20:33:06 BingoBoingo: !up lolstate

20:33:13 BingoBoingo: !up skinnkavaj

20:33:19 BingoBoingo: !up bitcoingirl

20:33:23 BingoBoingo: !up RainMan28

20:33:28 BingoBoingo: !up bitcoingirl

20:33:40 bitcoingirl: thanks!

20:34:01 bitcoingirl: +mircea_popescu you here?

20:34:32 BingoBoingo: I think he took off for a while.

20:35:30 kakobrekla: ;;notes

20:35:31 gribble: I currently have notes waiting for aegis, agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitstein, cevidad, congrats, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, moiety, mr_burdell, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, popeofdope, and ryepdx.

20:36:12 kakobrekla: i thought i saw bitcoingirl inthere one of these days

20:36:25 bitcoingirl: I've been here before

20:36:31 kakobrekla: a ok

20:36:53 bitcoingirl: did anyone here with with mircea on the SEC Voorhees case?

20:37:06 kakobrekla: its in the logs

20:37:34 bitcoingirl: idk how to find it

20:37:50 bitcoingirl: it was just settled last week so i doubt there is new material

20:37:57 jurov: ;;google bitcoingirl site:log.bitcoin-assets.com

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20:38:03 kakobrekla: its a day or two ago

20:38:06 kakobrekla: iirc

20:38:57 kakobrekla: well that, or im completely spaced out.

20:39:50 jurov: bitcoingirl you prolly want this: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/06/03/the-sec-bares-its-gums-and-settles-with-erik/

20:39:50 assbot: The SEC Bares its Gums and Settles with Erik | Bingo Blog

20:40:09 jurov: no new info, just our general opinion

20:40:30 kakobrekla: yes and mind, this was posted before coindesk did it!

20:41:39 kakobrekla: !up RainMan28

20:42:53 kakobrekla: RainMan28 you need to be in l2 with assbot to up yourself

20:43:03 RainMan28: ah ok

20:43:10 RainMan28: yeah I'm far away from that

20:43:34 jurov: RainMan28: ratings may be cheaper than you think

20:43:34 kakobrekla: eh? nothing in the wot is far.

20:43:53 jurov: such as, do you perchance have active coinbr account?

20:44:08 chetty: bitcoingirl, no, he{s here. give it a few hours

20:44:21 RainMan28: coinbr? Nope, never heard of them jurov

20:44:37 kakobrekla: no coinbr account? then one must resolve to hookers.

20:44:49 bitcoingirl: what's the general consensus on MPEx becoming an SRO

20:45:08 kakobrekla: the TLD is pending!

20:45:47 benkay: bitcoingirl: MPEx is already an SRO.

20:46:08 benkay: #bitcoin-assets is also an SRO.

20:46:21 benkay: what's up in the air is USG recognizing the above facts.

20:46:42 bitcoingirl: has any government institution around the world delegated authority to it?

20:47:24 benkay: one cannot delegate authority to bitcoin entities. one can only recognize them.

20:47:37 benkay: nobody delegated me a cock, and yet.

20:47:37 BingoBoingo: bitcoingirl: There is a differance between beings, and external recognition of being

20:47:45 benkay: it gets sucked.

20:48:03 bitcoingirl: haha can i quote you on that?

20:48:17 benkay: it's in the public record...

20:48:22 bitcoingirl: what are your thoughts on DATA then?

20:48:25 jurov: also, slovak national bank did it by declaring all virtual currency transactions to be exclusive domain of transacting parties.

20:48:41 benkay: bitcoingirl: DATA?

20:48:46 jurov: ECB did something ike that, too

20:48:51 bitcoingirl: Digital Asset Transfer Authority?

20:49:46 benkay: re DATA: "Patrick Murck, Bitcoin Foundation

20:49:48 benkay: "

20:49:51 benkay: criminals, i guess.

20:49:58 benkay: http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/blog/2014/03/25/meet-the-data-annual-meeting-speakers/

20:49:59 assbot: Meet the DATA Annual Meeting Speakers | DATA

20:50:38 benkay: voting members: ... "brock pierce" and pedobears.

20:50:47 jurov: evoor and wences are there

20:51:21 benkay: and what authority is this? some self-styled best and first most authoritative source for the terminally blind?

20:52:09 benkay: bitcoingirl: d'you get the drift?

20:52:24 bitcoingirl: ok just asking

20:53:09 benkay: not trying to bite or anything, i'm just asking if you get the picture.

20:53:10 jurov: The Committee for the Establishment... "Nejc Kodrič".."Jered Kenna" i think i made my opinion

20:53:22 benkay: is tradehill even a thing anymore?

20:53:23 bitcoingirl: +benkay - so how was the SEC able to bring charges against voorhees since Mpex is overseas?

20:53:38 benkay: you'll note he was prosecuted for the scam he IPO'd himself, not S.DICE>

20:53:44 benkay: or...should have noted.

20:53:45 bitcoingirl: tradehill is not anything anymore

20:54:33 benkay: so we begin to draw a picture of this DATA thing - they flaunt dead operations as proof of their relevance.

20:55:05 bitcoingirl: i think Kracken and circle are the drivers of the operation

20:55:30 bitcoingirl: patrick just sits on the board as an 'advisor'

20:55:36 benkay: and if i recall correctly, US-ians aren't even allowed to trade on Kraken.

20:55:36 bitcoingirl: but isn't that involved

20:56:07 benkay: it's one of those 'company you keep' things.

20:56:50 benkay: hang out with the scum, get tarred with the brush of scum.

20:57:16 kakobrekla: <jurov> The Committee for the Establishment... "Nejc Kodrič".."Jered Kenna" i think i made my opinion < what the fuck is this shit

20:57:20 kakobrekla: these guys cant even math

20:57:24 kakobrekla: fucking what.

20:57:39 bitcoingirl: do you think the foundation played a part in mt gox?

20:57:55 jurov: kakobrekla: click on "The Announcement"

20:57:56 benkay: DATA and their ilk are the equivalent of soviet or third reich fascist informers.

20:58:22 benkay: glorious heroes in the moment

20:58:33 benkay: reviled traitors for all eternity

20:58:43 jurov: bitcoingirl obviously karpeles was on the board

20:59:03 jurov: and shrem shilled till the last moment

20:59:04 benkay: a better question maybe: what role did the foundation play in supporting the BFL scam?

20:59:28 benkay: and the best question yet: why are any of these fuckers still making noise?

20:59:53 BingoBoingo: benkay: Squandered their Bitcoin for dollars, but still need moar dollars.

21:00:11 benkay: bitcoingirl: do you have enough yet to castrate this whole charade in the mainstream press?

21:02:05 benkay: and i guess more importantly: do you have the reproductive organs to mount the charge?

21:02:08 bitcoingirl: it's certainly frustrating, but I'm focusing on more important matters moving forward

21:02:24 benkay: lol i ain't frustrated, they don't affect me.

21:02:27 bitcoingirl: mount the charge?

21:02:45 benkay: for truth and justice etc

21:03:25 jurov: such as, kenna being serial scammer?

21:03:48 jurov: just to name one of them

21:04:02 benkay: such as foundation soliciting deposits and burning them on trabamborghinis?

21:04:29 benkay: !up bitcoingirl

21:04:36 bitcoingirl: how is keen is serial scammer - i haven't heard this

21:04:46 bitcoingirl: Thanks +benkay

21:04:58 bitcoingirl: kenna*

21:05:46 benkay: (feel free to omit the +, bitcoingirl, it just indicates that this handle has voice)

21:06:17 jurov: after the first incarnation of tradehill closed, deposited bitcoins were never seen again

21:06:34 bitcoingirl: ive spoken with people that got their bitcoins back

21:06:50 benkay: you've taken a sample.

21:06:59 bitcoingirl: he said he couldn't get a bank account... as if it was out of his control

21:07:15 bitcoingirl: i did not do a proper statistical analysis

21:08:03 benkay: and i've talked to people who got their money out of BCS&T - what of it?

21:08:37 benkay: i've even talked to people who made money on cryptostocks, GLBSE, bitcoinbourse (okay maybe not bourse), but you get the point.

21:09:07 benkay: and coinbase will even refund your "get fucked" trades if you complain loudly enough on reddit/twitter/bitcointalk

21:09:11 bitcoingirl: i do - but he is saying that it wasn't his fault tradehill went under bc he couldn't get a bank account

21:09:32 bitcoingirl: +benkay, what country are you primarily located in?

21:09:57 benkay: i wonder how many millions of US were burnt to discover that one cannot do msb + btc in the us.

21:10:07 benkay: los estados unidos, por ahora.

21:10:22 benkay: despues, quien sabes.

21:10:42 davout: "he said he couldn't get a bank account... as if it was out of his control" <<< actually, it wouldn't really surprise me if this was true

21:11:23 benkay: nobody's tried the Paymium approach in the states, afaik.

21:11:30 davout: "i wonder how many millions of US were burnt to discover that one cannot do msb + btc in the us." <<< is there any entity who actually tried to get the license in all states ?

21:11:40 benkay: Kraken.

21:11:51 benkay: they also performed a hasty retrograde maneuver iirc.

21:12:07 benkay: aka Payward.

21:12:26 davout: payward tried to get msb licensed in lots of states?

21:13:24 benkay: when i spoke to ms. choi last she indicated that was the plan. granted, that was forever ago and we've not kept up.

21:13:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07462951 = 0.7463 BTC [+] {4}

21:13:56 benkay: the best part about kraken is the header on their header

21:14:06 benkay: "yo dawg we herd u like web 3.14 so we put some css on your css"

21:14:22 kakobrekla: davout iirc they started as US only

21:14:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00085015 = 11.222 BTC [+]

21:14:37 kakobrekla: cause i remember laughing about it.

21:14:44 davout: yea, they're lucky fidor took them :-)

21:15:10 kakobrekla: mhm

21:15:24 benkay: ;;ticker --market kraken

21:15:25 gribble: Kraken BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 646.45777, Best ask: 656.43773, Bid-ask spread: 9.97996, Last trade: 646.54153, 24 hour volume: 0.98730776, 24 hour low: 646.001, 24 hour high: 659.8, 24 hour vwap: 655.83189

21:15:30 benkay: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral

21:15:31 gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 655.54615, Best ask: 667.14256357, Bid-ask spread: 11.59641, Last trade: 667.14256357, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 654.864, 24 hour high: 670.55345, 24 hour vwap: 661.679544831

21:15:43 pankkake: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur

21:15:44 gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635

21:16:03 davout: "24 hour volume: 0.98730776" <<< that can't be kraken's eur volume

21:16:08 benkay: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur

21:16:09 gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.5, Best ask: 488.9999, Bid-ask spread: 8.49990, Last trade: 488.9999, 24 hour volume: 21.25395645, 24 hour low: 480.0, 24 hour high: 491.5, 24 hour vwap: 484.995635

21:16:12 benkay: ;;ticker --market kraken --currency eur

21:16:12 gribble: Kraken BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 479.65001, Best ask: 480.22868, Bid-ask spread: 0.57867, Last trade: 480.36999, 24 hour volume: 190.24285332, 24 hour low: 478.05478, 24 hour high: 482.5, 24 hour vwap: 480.49926

21:16:30 benkay: davout: ^^

21:16:31 davout: ah, the usd one i guess :)

21:16:45 pankkake: there is to btcusd for bitcoincentral, so gribble invents it. however, there is for kraken, which doesn't see much action

21:16:52 pankkake: s/to/no/

21:17:17 benkay: but, pankkake, they do seem to have some volume on the eur side

21:17:39 pankkake: yes, the have more than bitcoin-central usually

21:17:51 pankkake: I've made a bitbet of kraken vs bc volume but it was refused :(

21:17:59 benkay: what why?

21:18:05 davout: yup, they're blessed with this situation where they have a financial entity backing them, but lets them do the kyc diligences themselves

21:18:20 davout: s/but/which/

21:18:35 benkay: davout: implying they're skimping?

21:19:05 pankkake: they're verification was a joke last time I tried. didn't even have to upload documents for first levels

21:19:17 davout: that's the way i see it, look at their verification tiers, there's no such thing in europe where you can start moving funds without being identified

21:19:31 pankkake: but you give them your name!! it must be true :)

21:19:35 benkay: amazing company.

21:19:35 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

21:20:28 benkay: pankkake: what was the rejection rationale?

21:20:49 davout: the next step being, "oh wait, now you have money with us, let's start asking questions to let you move it out"

21:21:00 davout: bitstamp-style

21:21:32 benkay: p. typical. is this true of btc accounts as well?

21:22:18 davout: what do you mean ?

21:22:57 benkay: i suppose it would have to be, to work with the paymium model.

21:23:26 benkay: naively, "why do i have to show docs if i'm just showing up with btc and leaving with btc", but i get it.

21:23:33 davout: ah i see

21:23:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10413 @ 0.00085073 = 8.8587 BTC [+] {3}

21:24:46 davout: i don't know about kraken, but the paymium approach is that we skip the issue entirely, we verify everyone, if people were only depositing and withdrawing btc they could do it anonymously, but we don't really want that kind of users since we make no money being a wallet

21:25:50 pankkake: benkay: I don't remember, either no paid wager or bad source (bitcoincharts)

21:25:52 benkay: learned your lesson on that one? ;)

21:26:53 benkay: also (and correct me if i'm wrong davout) but if a user ever wants to sell btc via paymium, even if not withdrawing cash, they have to have a french bank account.

21:27:05 davout: there might business models for wallets, but trying to do everything is not the smartest way

21:27:18 davout: a EU bank account

21:27:20 jurov: benkay nope, i'm using slovak acct

21:27:43 benkay: ah, any eurozone account? i don't know much about your banking situations.

21:28:21 davout: yeah

21:28:28 davout: such hail in paris

21:29:19 davout: bwhahaha https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10351172_847904695230543_425532834360726811_n.png

21:32:31 pankkake: https://anxbtc.com/ wait, what is this?

21:32:33 assbot: ANXBTC Bitcoin Exchange

21:33:41 benkay: volume: 535 B

21:33:44 benkay: riiiiight.

21:33:48 pankkake: neither bc or kraken publish monthly volume themselves :/

21:34:05 pankkake: https://hitbtc.com/ that one too, no idea it even existed

21:34:06 assbot: The most advanced exchange / hitbtc

21:35:01 davout: pankkake: i'm told sometimes the hitbtc orderbook empties all of a sudden, the mm who whas telling me that assumes it's their own bot that sometimes goes offline

21:35:34 pankkake: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/ full of lulz

21:35:36 assbot: Bitcoin Charts / Markets

21:35:40 Apocalyptic: pankkake, I think I saw Enky point out that hitbtc is faking volume

21:35:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00239616 = 0.1246 BTC [-] {5}

21:36:11 davout: !up bitcoingirl

21:36:24 BingoBoingo: %ticker

21:36:25 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 144 Ask: 270 Last Price: 273 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A

21:36:36 BingoBoingo: %book

21:36:38 atcbot: 40k@278 28k@277 2k@270 | 4k@144 50k@143 175k@142

21:36:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 194 @ 0.00235001 = 0.4559 BTC [-]

21:44:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13928 @ 0.00085109 = 11.854 BTC [+]

21:52:54 jurov: 1up bitcoinhtx

21:52:57 jurov: !up bitcoinhtx

21:53:13 jurov: !up bitcoinhtx

21:53:24 jurov: !up frankenmint

21:53:34 jurov: !up CoalPowerGorilla

21:54:07 frankenmint: thanks

21:54:16 frankenmint: how do I decrypt the challenge question in dos?

21:54:30 CoalPowerGorilla: ty

21:54:43 frankenmint: i have gpg and i could register but I can't figure out the proper usage with the challenge link

21:55:30 jurov: frankenmint: dos?

21:55:40 frankenmint: yes

21:56:03 jurov: download the challenge link into a file

21:56:10 jurov: decrypt that file with gpg

21:56:16 frankenmint: okay decrypt got it

21:56:24 jurov: what step makes a problem?

21:56:41 frankenmint: not knowing that I need to save the link into a file

21:57:12 frankenmint: why couldnt i simply pass on the link directly to the cli

21:57:27 dignork: frankenmint: you don't have to, on unix you can run "gpg -d", and paste the message into stdin

21:57:30 jurov: because gpg does not know how to fetch http links?

21:57:51 jurov: if there is curl for dos, just do

21:58:05 jurov: curl <link> | gpg --decrypt

21:58:09 benkay: #bitcoin-assets, supporting dos since 2014

21:59:10 jurov: ;;gettrust assbot frankenmint

21:59:10 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user frankenmint: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=frankenmint | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=frankenmint | Rated since: Sat Jun 7 08:49:37 2014

21:59:53 fluffypony: ;;rated frankenmint

21:59:54 gribble: You rated user frankenmint on Sat Jun 7 08:49:37 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod.

22:00:10 frankenmint: nice

22:00:11 jurov: ;;rate frankenmint 1 on fluffy's recommendation

22:00:13 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frankenmint has been recorded.

22:00:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.244 = 0.488 BTC [+]

22:00:32 jurov: now you can !up with assbot yourself

22:00:52 frankenmint: thanks coolness

22:02:47 benkay: !up bitcoinhtx

22:02:52 benkay: bitcoin heat exchanger?

22:03:28 fluffypony: lol

22:03:49 fluffypony: so a Bitcoin HVAC technician really

22:04:15 jurov: where is HVAC used in btc?

22:05:36 jurov: boiler rooms, got it

22:05:48 fluffypony: hah hah

22:06:39 peterl: you could use a btc miner to heat your house?

22:06:39 thestringpuller: fluffypony:

22:07:34 fluffypony: thestringpuller:

22:08:03 jurov: peterl: yes

22:08:12 jurov: !up bitcoingirl

22:08:40 bitcoingirl: thanks. i think I'm finished here for now.

22:09:03 benkay: sweet dreams. give 'em hell.

22:09:22 jurov: bitcoingirl, mind sharing the conclusion?

22:09:25 jurov: if any?

22:09:31 bitcoingirl: conclusion of what?

22:09:33 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529946.msg7201619#msg7201619

22:09:33 assbot: Neo & Bee talk (spam free thread)

22:09:39 fluffypony: "Whats Dannys real name? is it really Daniel Brewster or what? I hv investors who want to buy the business how do i get hold of him?"

22:09:50 jurov: bitcoingirl whatever you're finished

22:10:29 benkay: i'm sure we'll see it in the next 'this week in bitcoin' from what is it - Forbes, bitcoingirl?

22:10:29 bitcoingirl: i was just trying to get some information on the voorhees case. very interesting subject.

22:10:42 bitcoingirl: tomorrow morning it'll be up

22:10:43 benkay: bitcoingirl: have you read the indictments too?

22:10:50 benkay: or, whatever legal docs the SEC pooped out

22:11:01 bitcoingirl: parts of them.

22:11:35 bitcoingirl: this is my conclusion: "In order for the SEC to consider raising bitcoin a securities offering, they would have to consider bitcoin as ‘money,' which they haven't"

22:11:56 benkay: kinda goes cross-grain to the Shavers case.

22:12:49 benkay: Trendon Shavers/Pirateat40/Bitcoin Savings and Trust ring a bell, bitcoingirl ?

22:13:03 bitcoingirl: exactly

22:13:30 benkay: wait hang on i thought the Shavers case established that they don't care if it's money or not raising funds is raising funds

22:13:48 bitcoingirl: its just not fair for the sec to charge voorhees with offering securities before offering any guidance

22:14:02 benkay: "SEC" "fair" << hue

22:14:22 bitcoingirl: but that's for the courts to decide

22:14:47 bitcoingirl: the shavers case hasn't gone to trial yet

22:14:53 jurov: also, there's that interesting difference between GLBSE and MPEx

22:15:09 jurov: treatment

22:16:40 thestringpuller: and that jurov is the best broker ever

22:16:46 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust jurov

22:16:46 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user jurov: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 13 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012

22:17:04 jurov: lol, so you got new password finally?

22:17:13 jurov: what is it?

22:17:18 thestringpuller: yup. painless, gangsta.

22:17:26 thestringpuller: it is !(#&!JSKCNWR*@(#&fhjf3hu(*Fhj3of or something

22:17:37 Apocalyptic: seems legit

22:18:35 benkay: looks good to me

22:23:12 frankenmint: anyone here run bots?

22:23:17 jurov: !up Swadq

22:23:26 Swadq: Thanks jurov

22:23:35 jurov: frankenmint: yes, mircea_popescu runs hanbot

22:23:44 Swadq: I do frankenmint, what's up?

22:24:01 jurov: !up frankenmint

22:24:07 Swadq: Thanks again

22:24:34 frankenmint: thanks

22:24:49 fluffypony: jurov: lol!

22:24:50 frankenmint: uh okay i was looking at thishttps://github.com/maxme/bitcoin-arbitrage

22:25:33 frankenmint: and I was going to change out gox for something like coinmkt or cryptsy

22:25:34 Swadq: What about it?

22:25:38 Swadq: Right

22:25:55 frankenmint: is there a recognized rule of thumb for switching a strategy

22:26:20 frankenmint: like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades

22:27:25 frankenmint: because this looks like its one bot that works across several markets I was going to spend time to build my own bot from scratch that only uses cryptsy

22:27:33 Swadq: I'm afraid I don't know, that's not the sort of bot I run :p I hope someone else can help you

22:27:35 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/hillydilly/milky-chance-flashed-junk-mind

22:27:35 assbot: Milky Chance - Flashed Junk Mind by hillydilly.com on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

22:27:38 frankenmint: im just not entirely sure which makes better sense of mytime

22:31:49 jurov: 1up akstunt600

22:31:54 jurov: !up akstunt600

22:31:58 jurov: 7up

22:33:14 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust bitcoingirl

22:33:14 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user bitcoingirl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=bitcoingirl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitcoingirl | Rated since: never

22:36:04 benkay: Mats_cd03: can you find something > 20 minutes?

22:37:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07377776 = 0.7378 BTC [-]

22:37:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00085442 = 6.6406 BTC [+]

22:38:15 kakobrekla: <frankenmint> like if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades < yes make it so if the market goes sideways then use arbitrage otherwise play swing trades

22:38:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128 @ 0.00085201 = 0.1091 BTC [-]

22:39:00 benkay: Mats_cd03: good track

22:40:09 kakobrekla: frankenmint the answer to your next question is exactly

22:40:21 kakobrekla: Swadq|Away dont do the away thingy, ktnx

22:40:53 Swadq|Away: kakobrekla what's preferable? Just being idle for 8 hours?

22:41:03 kakobrekla: sure

22:41:09 jurov: or /away

22:41:25 kakobrekla: just imagine 200 derps on the chan going |away |sleeping |eating |fucking |cowmilking

22:41:33 Swadq: Fair enough

22:41:48 Swadq: At least we'd be a me to keep tabs

22:41:55 Swadq: Able*

22:42:22 kakobrekla: anyway nothing wrong with being idle

22:42:52 Swadq: Fair enough

22:42:54 Swadq: Goodnight

22:42:59 kakobrekla: cya

22:44:57 Mats_cd03: benkay: http://hypem.com/gap_govball

22:44:59 assbot: Governors Ball Playable Schedule by Gap

22:45:30 davout: pankkake: massive hail too?

22:45:44 benkay: Mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icqddnGuijs

22:45:44 assbot: Insomnium - Shadows Of The Dying Sun 2014 (FulL Album) - YouTube

22:46:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12272 @ 0.00085201 = 10.4559 BTC [-]

22:46:52 pankkake: ?

22:48:16 davout: just getting lots of hail here

22:49:14 pankkake: (had to look up the word). nothing and it's very hot

22:51:57 pankkake: thunderstorm en route

22:52:47 pankkake: I guess I'll tone down my Parisan pride tomorrow and pack an umbrella

22:55:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07377776 = 0.7378 BTC [-]

22:56:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.07377776 = 2.4347 BTC [-]

22:59:36 Mats_cd03: benkay: i like it

23:06:53 pankkake: hail is here

23:09:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0200335 = 0.1202 BTC [-]

23:10:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.244 = 0.488 BTC [+]

23:19:28 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

23:19:30 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 655.95, Best ask: 658.91, Bid-ask spread: 2.96000, Last trade: 658.62, 24 hour volume: 2687.21042317, 24 hour low: 651.7, 24 hour high: 661.11, 24 hour vwap: 0

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23:23:11 davout: pankkake: "hail is here" <<< as predicted on -assets

23:23:23 pankkake: :D

23:28:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0735 = 0.147 BTC [-]

23:29:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07372916 = 0.5898 BTC [+] {2}

23:30:22 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: how is this a pass << you ever dated ?

23:32:13 kakobrekla: apparently a weird sample

23:32:49 dub: Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration.that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves. Here's davout with the weather

23:33:27 davout: dub: the guy has a point

23:33:31 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3RQWP37.txt )

23:33:31 mircea_popescu: !b 2

23:33:55 mircea_popescu: dub is like vexual on naxolone

23:35:21 dub: thats bill hicks, suggest to familiarize

23:35:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0728 = 0.1456 BTC [-]

23:36:15 dub: one of 'muricas only useful products

23:36:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07270061 = 0.1454 BTC [-]

23:36:57 cazalla: isn't alex jones bill hicks?

23:37:50 mircea_popescu: wait is alex jones a chick ?

23:37:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0234572 = 0.2346 BTC [-] {3}

23:38:12 decimation: http://fish2.com/ipmi/river.pdf << problem: c-machines are buggy and crash all the time ... solution: glue another c-machine on top of the c-machine ... problem: hardware vendors have crap security on new c-machine ... and you can't examine the firmware

23:38:38 mircea_popescu: http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlycomedancing/2011/images/dancers/alex_jones624x351.jpg

23:38:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00084877 = 11.034 BTC [-]

23:38:59 BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/trump/

23:38:59 assbot: trump

23:39:33 mircea_popescu: pankkake can penguirker also paste new oglafs ?

23:40:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 76 @ 0.02322812 = 1.7653 BTC [-] {4}

23:41:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00085069 = 11.8671 BTC [+] {2}

23:42:27 pankkake: pretty much any irc bot with rss feed support could, but I planned to write something like that. anyway, for now: no

23:42:53 mircea_popescu: i guess BingoBoingo is stuck doing it by hand

23:43:07 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Of course I am.

23:43:24 mircea_popescu: ehehe

23:43:27 decimation: I have a suggestion for content aggregation - use NNTP (usenet)

23:43:31 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoingirl yes.

23:43:31 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:43:34 BingoBoingo: Also Coindesk has reached new levels of Herpidity http://www.coindesk.com/digital-currencies-popular-technology-companies/

23:43:35 assbot: If Digital Currencies Were Popular Technology Companies...

23:44:46 mircea_popescu: bitcoingirl:idk how to find it << kakobrekla how hard it'd be to add full log search ? google is a bitchy little piece of shit that's not indexing half the days.

23:45:03 mircea_popescu: maybe limit to 12 searches/ip/day or something ?

23:45:19 cazalla: clearly i've been looking at the wrong alex jones

23:45:47 kakobrekla: it depends how well its made

23:46:00 kakobrekla: look at google and they still dont have shit together

23:46:09 mircea_popescu: yeah

23:46:25 mircea_popescu: but i mean, just run grep and report the results on a page

23:46:34 mircea_popescu: or wait, is it php ? does php even have bindings to run bash ?

23:46:54 thestringpuller: yes

23:46:54 davout: "does php even have bindings to run bash ?" <<< wut

23:47:01 kakobrekla: you could but you dont want to do that

23:47:05 mircea_popescu: a ok

23:47:07 thestringpuller: you can run shell from php but you don't want to do that

23:47:22 mircea_popescu: actually i imagine the logs'd be in a db anyway rather than in files

23:47:24 kakobrekla: its not text files anyway

23:47:28 mircea_popescu: right.

23:47:28 decimation: the problem with everything is idiots and spammers

23:47:29 kakobrekla: ...

23:47:34 decimation: limit searching to those in the wot

23:47:38 decimation: everything becomes simple

23:47:55 mircea_popescu: ;;search "derpy herp", assbot checks if guy is in l2 and pastes output ?

23:47:56 gribble: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.

23:48:27 kakobrekla: i can see ascii breaking it.

23:48:35 mircea_popescu: if he does we negrate him

23:48:45 mircea_popescu: or make him pay moar beer fund.

23:48:58 davout: kakobrekla: the log already chokes on nicks containing caps

23:48:58 mthreat: mircea_popescu: I've been thinking about making a log search. A handy search-as-a-service might come in handy there.

23:49:04 mircea_popescu: but anyway, this will become a serious problem, already i spend too much time searching the logs

23:49:11 kakobrekla: davout ?

23:49:16 mircea_popescu: o right, this happens to be what mthreat does for a living iirc

23:49:29 davout: backslashes

23:49:49 decimation: So I'm on vacation in Maui, and I find the local "Hawai'i" culture amusing. Mostly it's white people and the descendents of Korean slaves pretending to have something in common with war-like primative tribes who used to live here.

23:49:51 mircea_popescu: davout this because caps are evil in the ass of the lord.

23:49:51 thestringpuller: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/9447/thinking-transactions/ << not too bad

23:49:51 assbot: Thinking in Transactions Bitcoin Magazine

23:49:51 kakobrekla: wasnt that fixed

23:50:16 mircea_popescu: decimation sounds like someone on their way to cultural sensitivity boot camp

23:50:39 \\ohai: test

23:50:50 kakobrekla: yeah. fuick you.

23:51:02 mircea_popescu: fail.

23:51:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07270061 = 0.3635 BTC [-]

23:51:10 davout: kakobrekla: five mazeltovs to you

23:51:15 kakobrekla: :)

23:51:23 punkman: I was working on a log search thingy but then I forgot about it, ask me again in a few days

23:51:37 decimation: hehe well the amusing thing about it is that loads of "spiritual" new-age white people (eat pray love) come here to find themselves a culture, because they aren't allowed to have one back in the mainland

23:51:40 mircea_popescu: i was going to ask you in a few days but then i ated it.

23:51:44 kakobrekla: you need to index all the shit then

23:51:47 mthreat: mircea_popescu: is there an API to get the logs? not hard to write a crawler for it, but an API would be nice

23:51:49 kakobrekla: ill add something to assbot

23:52:06 mircea_popescu: mthreat not afaik

23:52:20 mircea_popescu: cause we all have flatfile logs and well... lazy i guess

23:52:46 mthreat: I was going to use something like log(poster's WoT score) as the "pageRank" equivalent for ranking the results

23:53:01 mircea_popescu: wot score is not intended to be used as a scalar.

23:53:08 mircea_popescu: ;;google what the wot is how to use it

23:53:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.0255004 = 0.2805 BTC [-] {2}

23:53:10 gribble: Ammo - World Of Tanks: http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Ammo; The Definitive Idiot's Guide To High Explosive Ammunition - Game ...: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/312414-the-definitive-idiots-guide-to-high-explosive-ammunition/; World of Tanks: High Explosive Ammo Guide (HE) - Glenn0010 ...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qGn9FxdhXw

23:53:15 mircea_popescu: dude srsly.

23:53:18 mircea_popescu: ;;google fraudsters what the wot is how to use it

23:53:19 gribble: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe fraudsters - Un ...: http://fraudsters.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/; Advanced WoT course : how the WoT is attacked, and how ... - fraudsters: http://fraudsters.com/2014/advanced-wot-course-how-the-wot-is-attacked-and-how-it-defends-itself/; On periphery and the peripheral. Ephemerides are also ... - (1 more message)

23:53:22 thestringpuller: lolol

23:53:28 mircea_popescu: there mthreat, first link/

23:53:28 mthreat: ok i'll look at it. it's easy to change the ranking function

23:53:55 davout: mthreat: the search should be as dumb as possible imo

23:54:45 davout: ideally a bit smarter than a grep, but i'd beware of fancyness

23:54:45 mthreat: davout: ok. I'll make it open so folks can submit pull requests or whatever.

23:55:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0008487 = 14.8523 BTC [-] {2}

23:55:15 mircea_popescu: there is nothing smarter than grep gtfo

23:55:41 thestringpuller: perl -p -i -e

23:55:45 thestringpuller: ;;perl

23:55:45 gribble: Error: "perl" is not a valid command.

23:55:49 thestringpuller: ;;ls

23:55:49 gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?

23:55:52 mircea_popescu: lol

23:55:54 mircea_popescu: ;;ll

23:55:55 gribble: Error: "ll" is not a valid command.

23:55:58 mircea_popescu: ORLY

23:56:00 mthreat: davout: and if assbot can do a REST request and interpret a JSON result, that part should be straightforward too

23:56:11 decimation: I would do exactly what a monk in 1300 would do - make a concordance of each day's logs and then make an index of the concordance

23:56:13 davout: mircea_popescu: i guess i you regexp you're good

23:56:31 mircea_popescu: davout because srsly, regexp is turing complete!

23:56:51 BingoBoingo: ;;rm

23:56:51 gribble: Error: "rm" is not a valid command.

23:56:53 davout: mthreat: not to nitpick, but there's no such thing as a rest request

23:56:57 davout: :D

23:57:05 BingoBoingo: ;;ed logs

23:57:06 gribble: Google found nothing.

23:57:15 mthreat: ok, as long as you know what I meant ;)

23:57:20 davout: k i'm off, night all

23:57:20 mircea_popescu: im starting to suspect davout has been sleepingon the couch for like a week

23:57:27 davout: lol

23:57:30 mircea_popescu: he's got nitpicks with everyone

23:57:34 mircea_popescu: slash slash ///

23:57:58 mircea_popescu: ahahaha

23:58:14 mircea_popescu: the tarzan kid or w/e his name is has started a trend nao

23:59:02 bitcoinpete: ;;later tell davout lol well played

23:59:02 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:59:08 bitcoinpete: howdy

23:59:12 mircea_popescu: hey.

23:59:24 mircea_popescu: bitcoin girl was looking for you earlier.

23:59:31 bitcoinpete: orly?

23:59:44 bitcoinpete: didn't see my name pop up in the logs...

23:59:50 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: no coinbr account? then one must resolve to hookers. << you mean resort yea ?