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00:14:27 penguirker: New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/08/07/this-is-the-bitcoin-empire-this-is-the-new-yasa/

00:19:57 kakobrekla: here is a random pic http://shrani.si/f/3A/4W/1Dwdwmwt/unnamed.jpg

00:20:26 kakobrekla: it looks nicer in rl though.

00:21:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9021 @ 0.00091043 = 8.213 BTC [-]

00:24:10 mike_c: cool, what's the screen from?

00:25:19 mike_c: you should make the text run vertically with lines in columns instead of rows. then do your best matrix impression.

00:26:06 kakobrekla: not what but where. china.

00:26:47 kakobrekla: it has a built in matrix thingy, if you misaddress the pointer to the screen line it will automatrix.

00:26:56 mike_c: heh

00:34:01 kakobrekla: the purpose of this gadget is not irc. what is it? not tellin. do what i want.

00:34:47 lobbes: <mircea_popescu> there should be a new constitutional amendment. "no one may run for elected office, be it presidential, as member of congress or senate or any other, who can not recite the entirety of all laws, regulations etc" << Does that include all migratory bird treaties?

00:35:45 mike_c: lobbes: or.. there shouldn't be migratory bird treaties. it's like flat tax. simple, yet insufficient.

00:38:34 lobbes: yeah, it is pretty ridiculous

00:45:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.0009142 = 8.8677 BTC [+]

00:59:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7768 @ 0.00091019 = 7.0704 BTC [-]

01:19:33 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i've one quite like this.

01:20:52 kakobrekla: at this point, i would be surprised if you didnt!

01:21:23 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: unsurprisingly, i've an embarrassingly large collection of these

01:21:32 kakobrekla: :D

01:22:00 asciilifeform: and is that a beheaded model m ?

01:22:34 kakobrekla: so called 'space saver'

01:22:41 asciilifeform: aha guessed as much.

01:23:25 *: asciilifeform never understood the need to save 'space' by abolishing numbers pad - unless living in a ship, manned capsule of some other variety

01:23:50 kakobrekla: i use a mouse.

01:23:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 253 @ 0.00407389 = 1.0307 BTC [+] {5}

01:24:05 asciilifeform: for numbers ?!

01:24:40 kakobrekla: lol no, but numpad get in the way and im not much into numerical data entry.

01:25:15 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: lathe coordinates ?

01:25:52 kakobrekla: not in a long time.

01:25:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24317 @ 0.00091545 = 22.261 BTC [+] {3}

01:27:25 *: asciilifeform recently bought a 'proper' lathe - no coordinates, just cranks...

01:27:55 kakobrekla: the only thing i miss is that far right enter for some reason but i have a programmable hw ps2 to usb converter and remaped keys / macros

01:28:28 *: asciilifeform has pretty much the entire numpad programmed as emacs knobs of one kind or another

01:28:37 kakobrekla: mhm

01:35:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00091599 = 6.8699 BTC [+]

01:41:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4789 @ 0.00091019 = 4.3589 BTC [-]

01:50:09 decimation: asciilifeform: I have found the extra function keys on my unicomp "model m like" keyboard to be extremely useful for emacs

01:51:52 kakobrekla: fyi you can remap any key to act as a layer switch so have n of different full layouts

01:52:06 decimation: re: keyboards in space capsules: spacex went with a touchscreen with "emergency keys" > http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/05/spacex-shows-off-dragon-v2-its-brand-new-manned-space-capsule/#image-7

01:52:07 assbot: SpaceX shows off Dragon V2, its brand new manned space capsule | Ars Technica

01:52:42 decimation: kakbrekla: do you mean something beyond the usual ctrl-meta combinations?

01:52:57 kakobrekla: yea

01:54:47 kakobrekla: theres a number of ways to achieve that, currently im using https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard

01:54:48 assbot: tmk/tmk_keyboard GitHub

01:58:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00090935 = 11.3669 BTC [-]

02:01:26 kakobrekla: you can do most if not all of those tricks in os instead but ps2 is becoming a rarity anyway.

02:02:33 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what i thought you had: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=29483.0

02:02:34 assbot: Happy Buckling Keyboard

02:03:38 kakobrekla: it is such http://www.clickykeyboard.com/2012/dec04/001.jpg

02:04:03 kakobrekla: restored, bolt modded.

02:04:11 asciilifeform: bolt?

02:04:25 decimation: huh do they have a unicomp controller gizmo? I assume it's a clone of the model m with usb gadget

02:04:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00090834 = 5.0867 BTC [-]

02:04:51 kakobrekla: well you need to do that if you take it apart and put it together ... or what

02:04:54 kakobrekla: http://imgur.com/a/QroSL

02:04:55 assbot: Nut Bolt Mod for IBM Model M - Imgur

02:06:20 kakobrekla: decimation who has what?

02:07:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00090834 = 13.1709 BTC [-]

02:07:34 *: asciilifeform wants a stainless steel 'model m', will probably end up making it personally at some point

02:08:21 decimation: replacement firmware for the unicomp keyboard: http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/SpacesaverM

02:08:22 assbot: Unicomp, Inc.: Spacesaver M / Mac OS X

02:08:54 kakobrekla: what is it that you want to achieve?

02:09:17 decimation: so this layer hack is a function of the firmware on the keyboard?

02:10:14 kakobrekla: my setup takes in ps2 signal, but you can hook it up directly to the keyboard matrix

02:11:06 decimation: ah I see, so it's hardware "matrix switch"?

02:11:09 kakobrekla: you can hook it up to something like https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/

02:11:10 assbot: Teensy USB Development Board

02:15:26 kakobrekla: decimation scroll down that github page it should be clear

02:20:48 asciilifeform: 'What bothers me is that you are saying what the agency wants us to believe -- they used to be great, but these days they have trouble reading the newspaper, the Internet is too complicated for them, there is so much traffic and they can't find what they want. It may be true, but it is what they have been 'saying' for years. It's convenient for N.S.A. to have its targets believe it is in trouble.'

02:21:21 asciilifeform: (attributed to... Whitfield Diffie. circa 1999. http://cryptome.org/nsa-hersh.htm)

02:21:49 asciilifeform: (linked piece, otherwise is tedious crud)

02:23:06 decimation: asciilifeform it seems that the meta-nsa doesn't exist in reality

02:24:01 decimation: Hayden emphasized that the personnel problems are far less significant than the technological ones: "The issue is not people but external changes. For the N.S.A., technology is a two-edged sword. If technology in the outside world races away from us -- at breakneck speed -- our mission is more difficult. It can be our enemy."

02:24:46 asciilifeform: decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2014#772890

02:24:47 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

02:25:23 decimation: yeah I think you are probably right

02:25:42 decimation: at any rate it's not clear to me that clowns like Hayden or Alexander would even recognize skills if they saw them

02:26:00 asciilifeform: decimation: no actual need for this

02:26:14 asciilifeform: the real, long-term decisions are made at the level below political appointee

02:26:30 asciilifeform: (that is, by folks who have lifetime careers in the service)

02:27:32 decimation: if such people exist, they are probably pretty sad these days, given the point made a few weeks ago about how they would have to live as paupers

02:28:00 asciilifeform: paupers? you ever meet u.s. civil service folks?

02:28:34 decimation: well, it depends where they are on the pay scale I guess

02:28:41 asciilifeform: they aren't rich, in the customary sense (they must work, and are expected to follow a variety of curious social rituals, including living in very particular places) - but not paupers.

02:30:21 decimation: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2012/general-schedule/washington-baltimore-northern-virginia-dc-md-va-wv-pa-annual-rates-by-grade-and-step/

02:30:24 assbot: Washington-Baltimore-Northern Virginia, DC-MD-VA-WV-PA - Annual Rates by Grade and Step

02:30:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11919 @ 0.00090834 = 10.8265 BTC [-]

02:31:00 decimation: I wonder how many young technical folks joining the civil service are offered more than $60k?

02:31:48 asciilifeform: decimation: nsa, cia, nga - not subject to the traditional 'gs' ranks system

02:31:53 asciilifeform: they have their own

02:32:18 asciilifeform: what it is - i've no idea, but it was supposedly leaked not long ago; if you care, find it

02:32:49 peterl: who sells just one share of s.mg and s.nsa?

02:33:43 decimation: https://www.nsa.gov/psp/applyonline/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/c/HRS_HRAM.HRS_CE.GBL?Page=HRS_CE_JOB_DTL&Action=A&JobOpeningId=1049480&SiteId=1&PostingSeq=1

02:34:28 decimation: " Salary is commensurate with education and experience. Salary range: $52,146 to $116,90"

02:34:45 asciilifeform: no longer seekrit, apparently.

02:34:54 *: asciilifeform actually applied for that same job once

02:35:20 decimation: Come live in Maryland, pay $500k for house with schools, get paid $80k per year - for your country

02:37:51 decimation: this goes back to Mircea's point - USG "wants" things, but it can't really afford them - it's running on the "fumes" of past memories

02:40:38 kakobrekla: peterl: jimmothy

02:40:50 asciilifeform: ;;google senior executive service pay

02:40:51 gribble: Senior Executive Service Compensation - Office of Personnel ...: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/compensation/; Senior Executive Service - Office of Personnel Management: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/; Executive Senior Level - Office of Personnel Management: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay- (1 more message)

02:41:18 asciilifeform: there's about 10,000 of them.

02:41:41 peterl: kakobrekla: You think he has enough money to afford that much?

02:42:01 asciilifeform: http://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/facts-figures/#url=Annual-Data-Reports

02:42:01 assbot: Facts & Figures

02:42:09 asciilifeform: ^ interestingly, no data post-2010.

02:42:32 kakobrekla: peterl i imagine faucets still paying out

02:42:55 asciilifeform: 'ses' are the people who actually run usg.

02:43:22 decimation: asciilifeform: http://www.nsa.gov/careers/FAQs/index.shtml Below are entry-level salaries (including locality pay) for several different skill fields. (Entry-level is defined as having a Bachelor's Degree or equivalent work experience.) Language Analysis & Intelligence Analysis $42,209 Computer Science $55,293 * Mathematics $51,894 * Computer/Electrical Engineering $56,375*

02:43:22 assbot: Frequently Asked Questions about the National Security Agency (NSA)

02:51:15 mike_c: peterl: it looked like fabian was testing mpex tools.

03:08:30 decimation: ah the model M terminal keyboard to usb hack is cool

03:09:09 decimation: I still don't understand why serial terminals went out of style, seems like the perfect solution to point of sale units, etc

03:09:34 asciilifeform: decimation: because microshit decreed it

03:09:40 asciilifeform: can't run winblows on a serial term.

03:16:35 decimation: that's pretty much the equivalent of breaking windows, replacing them with more expensive (yet worse) windows (heh), and counting the whole project as a net positive GDP

03:17:41 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

03:17:44 gribble: Current Blocks: 314484 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 11 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 39 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19724887807.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.27553

03:18:13 BingoBoingo: %d

03:18:15 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 415114.30 in 66 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -39.59

03:19:49 decimation: this fellow sells already modded model m F1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-F1-122-Key-Vintage-Terminal-Keyboard-Cleaned-Bolt-mod-USB-converted-/331283161316?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item4d2203e0e4

03:19:52 assbot: IBM Model M F1 122 Key Vintage Terminal Keyboard Cleaned Bolt Mod USB Converted | eBay

03:20:06 decimation: probably worth the price if you are in a hurry

03:20:15 asciilifeform: decimation: these, if i recall, suck

03:20:21 asciilifeform: the keys don't send 'break' codes

03:20:29 asciilifeform: i have a (stock) 122, gathering dust

03:20:44 decimation: so this means the controller must poll?

03:21:11 asciilifeform: 'soarer's' converter is, if i recall, closed-source.

03:21:16 asciilifeform: this could mean - anything...

03:21:24 decimation: ah, yeah that sucks

03:21:43 *: asciilifeform has this keyboard and really wants to turn it into a useful thing

03:22:01 asciilifeform: but that means replacing all the silicon with something. and retrofitting leds.

03:22:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00090945 = 9.8675 BTC [+] {2}

03:28:39 BingoBoingo: decimation: it will be interesting to see what happens to the bitcoin price when the COIN ETF turns on << "Paper" BTC sell

03:37:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35231 @ 0.00090819 = 31.9964 BTC [-] {3}

03:46:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34781 @ 0.00090319 = 31.4139 BTC [-] {2}

03:59:16 BingoBoingo: !up Shakespeare

04:08:53 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

04:08:54 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 592.9, Best ask: 592.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 592.99, 24 hour volume: 5334.71653921, 24 hour low: 579.0, 24 hour high: 595.0, 24 hour vwap: 0

04:09:08 mircea_popescu: all these noobs going join/part are kinda lulzy by now

04:12:25 TheNewDeal: provides some visual excitement

04:12:27 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you're doing it wrong. kbd should be in front of monitor not behind

04:12:55 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls4wxvTRdu1qlne6uo1_500.jpg have some more then

04:13:26 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's the deal with lordosis?

04:13:35 mircea_popescu: hm ?

04:13:37 TheNewDeal: currently on the search for a % base graph of bitcoin days destroyed

04:13:47 TheNewDeal: lordosis shows party girl vs mommy status

04:13:55 TheNewDeal: at least, that was the word yesterday

04:14:10 ben_vulpes: well, wife status was the word.

04:14:10 mircea_popescu: lobbes yes, it does.

04:14:56 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if you mean the lordosis ~behaviour~ it's this female mammal response to being hawt.

04:15:05 fluffypony: I thought bird was the word

04:15:39 mircea_popescu: nono, the word is bird

04:15:45 mircea_popescu: stop mixing the codebooks fluff.

04:16:43 mircea_popescu: step 1. set down bottle without looking. part 2. set it down on usb stick. step 3. bottle overturns and falls over, exactly cork down. part 4. nothing further happens.

04:16:43 mircea_popescu: go me.

04:18:23 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in that picture you said you could tell who was wifed, as they weren't displaying lordosis

04:19:13 ben_vulpes: is that a function of having borne young or not feeling hawt?

04:19:31 mircea_popescu: dude. lordosis just like that is usually a pathologic curvature of the spine. teh lordosis ~behaviour~ is different.

04:19:38 mircea_popescu: and the idea was only boring women get married anyway.

04:20:02 ben_vulpes: a hm

04:20:19 *: ben_vulpes goes back to work

04:21:23 BingoBoingo: New worst Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joeyscoops/saving-the-nyc-egg-sandwich

04:21:24 assbot: Saving The NYC Egg Sandwich by JoeyScoops — Kickstarter

04:22:20 BingoBoingo: New worst Kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/joeyscoops/saving-the-nyc-egg-sandwich

04:22:20 assbot: Saving The NYC Egg Sandwich by JoeyScoops — Kickstarter

04:22:26 mircea_popescu: decimation: Hayden emphasized that the personnel problems are far less significant than the technological ones << well, i disagree. now, from a bureaucrat pov, sure, they generally can fill any jobs they want filled, according to their selection process. this however does not mean they are gaining any sort of valuable human capital.

04:22:26 fluffypony: argh

04:22:28 mircea_popescu: on the contrary.

04:23:24 mircea_popescu: decimation: at any rate it's not clear to me that clowns like Hayden or Alexander would even recognize skills if they saw them << precisely. suppose they DO recognise them, like, "this chick looks like she could suck a golfball through a gardenhose." now what ? the last guy that recognised that skill lost his job.

04:23:54 mircea_popescu: it's the easiest skill to recognise, too. so... not much hope. they're hiring people, sure, but people only google/microsoft/apple/amazon would hire if they didn't.

04:24:53 TheNewDeal: MP, whered you get the idea for the brk-a bet?

04:25:02 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform:they aren't rich, in the customary sense - but not paupers. << compare what'd happen to the us bureaucrat pauper vs the russian bureaucrat once someone in a hostile nation put the kaibosh on them. they're paupers.

04:25:33 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal http://fraudsters.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era-starts-today/

04:25:34 assbot: An era ends today. A new era starts today. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

04:25:52 mircea_popescu: gotta show the world who's boss.

04:26:14 mircea_popescu: more importantly, gotta show the kids what it means to be the boss and what a boss does.

04:27:01 mircea_popescu: otherwise they may end up bamboozled by the nonsense fetishism of pseudo-power the ycombinator swamp is pusing, "in order to interact with power acceptably you must give it away in exchange for the trappings of it". tlp discusses the matter extensively and well.

04:28:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: ;;google senior executive service pay << these folk get options. whole different story, as bubbles happen 3-5 times in a lifetime.

04:30:55 TheNewDeal: just curious. I was trying to make a bet on MMM on a BTC basis in the past, and it kept on getting rejected. The brk-a bet surfaced not too long after

04:31:08 mircea_popescu: the russian scam ?!

04:31:40 mircea_popescu: well, the brk bet had the major advantage of 1k zeroconf. that has ~0% chances of being rejected.

04:33:06 TheNewDeal: no doubt. I think it's a great bet, and a somewhat ballsy one as well

04:33:48 mircea_popescu: it already paid lulz in spades. buffett held his yearly meet, supposedly "couldn't find any short". just the embarassment of that...

04:34:15 TheNewDeal: couldnt find any short?

04:34:21 TheNewDeal: what do you mean?

04:34:44 mircea_popescu: yes. i mean they claimed to want to invite someone who's short their thing, but to not be able to find one.

04:35:23 mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, when the luminaries of the previous generation are careful to avoid playing you, more recognition is not really needed. it'll come, of course, but it's moot.

04:36:46 TheNewDeal: I am curious to see how confident investors are after his death.

04:37:13 TheNewDeal: I don't know how much he actually does for the company, but he is quite the figure head

04:37:28 mircea_popescu: i imagine about as much as i do for mpif

04:38:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00088024 = 3.8731 BTC [-]

04:38:05 TheNewDeal: or f.derp :D

04:38:53 mircea_popescu: prolly not that much lol

04:41:12 TheNewDeal: bet also presents a decent hedging opportunity. Speaking of which, I'm loving all these active price bets lately

04:42:15 mircea_popescu: something tells me you're not the only one lol

04:42:51 mircea_popescu: but yeah, kinda surpriosed not more people are trying to arbitrage it, short brk bet on no sorta thing

05:04:28 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 281 @ 0.00229033 = 0.6436 BTC [-]

05:08:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00087258 = 9.2493 BTC [-]

05:13:01 mircea_popescu: !up Newar

05:43:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18429 @ 0.0008654 = 15.9485 BTC [-]

05:44:23 BingoBoingo: %d

05:44:25 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 410974.74 in 61 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.19

05:44:38 BingoBoingo: %p

05:44:39 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 3737.96 GH/s

05:54:22 BingoBoingo: !mpif

05:54:23 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021697 B (Total: 474.46 B). Delta: -0.06 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]

05:57:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1111 @ 0.00194866 = 2.165 BTC [+] {4}

06:09:53 mircea_popescu: !up steven-__

06:19:59 steven-__: thanks, mircea_popescu any thoughts on the no agenda show? searched on fraudsters but couldn't find anything.

06:20:34 mircea_popescu: what's this ?

06:21:45 steven-__: its a news / comedy show but it also has a strong fan base that sends in tips they broke that bo birddog? story pretty much the house it happened

06:22:02 steven-__: theyhttps://www.noagendaplayer.com/listen/641/1-52-36

06:22:37 steven-__: facebook exec on todays show https://www.noagendaplayer.com/listen/641/1-52-36

06:22:39 assbot: No Agenda Player

06:22:48 mircea_popescu: is this related to noagendamarket ?

06:23:35 steven-__: no it has nothing to do with bitcoin

06:23:57 mircea_popescu: ah cool. well it's the first time i see this thing, seems it appeared sometime last week. what's it, like some sort of internet radio show basically ?

06:24:11 steven-__: they have been doing 2 shows a week for almost 600 eps

06:24:23 mircea_popescu: oh. then an ignorance is me.

06:24:26 steven-__: in the same way b-a is sort of a internet chat room

06:24:40 mircea_popescu: so do you know them ?

06:24:43 steven-__: no

06:25:09 mircea_popescu: aite, well, makes two of us.

06:36:48 steven-__: http://adam.curry.com/art/1397083690_rSDMrmAt.html

06:36:49 assbot: Richard Quest, CNN Reporter, Arrested On Drug Charges [Printable]

06:38:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00195 = 1.365 BTC [-]

06:52:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00087233 = 2.3553 BTC [+]

06:54:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10198 @ 0.00087233 = 8.896 BTC [+]

07:13:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00086946 = 25.0404 BTC [-] {3}

07:24:37 BingoBoingo: %d

07:24:39 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 410190.41 in 60 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.31

07:25:40 mircea_popescu: maybe not quite as stable yet as all that.

07:41:32 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

07:41:34 gribble: Current Blocks: 314514 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 1997 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 11 hours, 33 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23740552664.0 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.32934

07:43:45 BingoBoingo: !up adrrr

07:46:38 BingoBoingo: And coinfire went retarded http://coinfire.cf/2014/08/08/fund-coin-fire-bitcoin-starter/

07:46:38 assbot: Fund Coin Fire on Bitcoin Starter! - Coin Fire

07:46:38 adrrr: hi

07:47:20 BingoBoingo: Hi adrrr

07:47:41 adrrr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHPEvZWr1Qk

07:51:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4801 @ 0.0008724 = 4.1884 BTC [+] {2}

07:55:30 BingoBoingo: * ChanServ removes voice from adrrr * assbot gives voice to adrrr << Can't Chanserv and assbot learn to get along?

07:59:30 xmj: BingoBoingo: not invented here

07:59:36 xmj: assbot: is a case of NIH

08:01:53 mircea_popescu: chanserv is evil

08:02:45 mircea_popescu: "Mike (Executive Editor) - Mike has been following Bitcoin for the last several months and got fed up of sites that are full of advertisements and didn?t provide the latest news"

08:02:47 mircea_popescu: what a bio.

08:03:07 mircea_popescu: last several months by now. looking forward to convergence towards "two weeks"

08:04:14 mircea_popescu: Sponsors : earn bitcoin for clicking ads, win bitcoins today etc. so much win.

08:05:18 mircea_popescu: "The fund which received regulator approval from the Isle of Jersey back in back in July and was set to launch this month has joined The Bitcoin Foundation as a Silver Member."

08:05:23 mircea_popescu: clearly not a pr piece.

08:05:50 BingoBoingo: Yeah, So the solution requesting money kickstarter style with... Ads as compensation... but no adult ads please (paraphrasing their crowdfunding page)

08:05:59 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in my inbox, "Hemant.Gupta.d 1:58 am 70 million Email list @ 199$ limited period offer."

08:07:19 mircea_popescu: https://dribbble.com/hemant_gupta99 prolly not this guy, but... dribble ?!

08:07:19 assbot: Dribbble - Hemant Gupta

08:07:47 mircea_popescu: "Here we are just a few short months later and we?ve heard from various people in the industry that we are quickly creating one of the most reliable cryptocurrency news sites and we?ve gathered up a team of kick ass volunteers to help us grow this madness out."

08:07:53 mircea_popescu: who the fuck "in the industry"

08:08:27 mircea_popescu: 0 backers pledged 0.00090000 Ƀ 38 days to go << how the fuck does that work.

08:08:37 BingoBoingo: "Here we are just a few short months later and we?ve heard from various people in the industry that we are quickly creating one of the most reliable cryptocurrency news sites and we?ve gathered up a team of kick ass volunteers to help us grow this madness out." << Is this in reference to the pats on the back for making a phone call and finding out "insured wallet" wasn't insured?

08:09:10 mircea_popescu: ;;seen coinfire

08:09:10 gribble: coinfire was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <CoinFire> Thanks for the invite! :)

08:09:27 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell coinfire how about i give you a bitcoin in exchange for not being retarded anymore.

08:09:28 gribble: The operation succeeded.

08:09:42 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nfi. smh. etc.

08:10:30 mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea how all these murican types mange to get through college. seems to me the most, the BY FAR MOST difficult thing for them is sitting the fuck down, keeping quiet and paying attention.

08:10:57 mircea_popescu: o no, gotta express oneself. here we are after just a few short month on the campus, with something to say on all topics and we always wanted to try the swamp out!

08:12:12 BingoBoingo: Hangovers? Easy way to sit the fuck down and keep quiet.

08:12:23 BingoBoingo: Not so good for paying attention though

08:12:26 mircea_popescu: must be.

08:13:43 BingoBoingo: Then the self expressing sort pass because the professors hangovers mercifully keep them from paying attention to self expression

08:14:15 BingoBoingo: Will collapse eventually because the snake can't grow faster than it can eat itself

08:19:10 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight do you get your gribble pms ?

08:19:41 BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight

08:19:48 BingoBoingo: ;;seen DreadKnight

08:19:48 gribble: DreadKnight was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 22 hours, 56 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <DreadKnight> that's not how you play frogger

08:19:48 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, yes

08:19:56 mircea_popescu: aok

08:21:35 BingoBoingo: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/vat-eggnog-flavoring-explodes-lab-2-hurt

08:21:36 assbot: Vat of eggnog flavoring explodes at lab; 2 hurt

08:21:57 DreadKnight: a bit caught up with silly freelancing atm; and the heat doesn't help xD

08:22:04 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lemme tell you a joke.

08:22:12 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight you should be in ba. it's like 18 here.

08:22:31 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Shoot

08:22:50 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so, accident at the distillery in edinburgh. one dead. work safety inspection follows. inspector interviews eyewitness workers

08:23:23 mircea_popescu: "so how did it happen ?" "well, billy mcglurgh was balancing above the main vat when he fell in"

08:23:30 mircea_popescu: "that must have killed him instantly"

08:23:42 mircea_popescu: "oh, no, he came out for olives six or seven times"

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08:23:53 BingoBoingo: !b 4

08:24:24 BingoBoingo: lol, That's a way to go out

08:26:22 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=696524.0

08:26:22 assbot: [SCAM IPO] AcoinL.L.C; Smack_That_Ace; www.Localpunter.com [SCAM IPO]

08:27:32 mircea_popescu: SCIPO

08:28:20 BingoBoingo: I just love the people calling scams now are people advertising and soliciting IPO help

08:28:21 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, sounds good, compared to 32 degrees here (I'm more of a winter / cold person)

08:28:32 mircea_popescu: lol "a professional" ==== "someone who gave <tips> on a forum populated by retards"

08:29:22 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727235.0

08:29:22 assbot: Smack That Ace is using a ring of accounts to create scams!

08:29:30 mircea_popescu: heh

08:29:53 DreadKnight: I got so many PM offers on bitcointalk to sell my account

08:30:18 DreadKnight: most annoying forum to get on

08:31:20 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo http://fraudsters.com/2010/stiinta-si-pseudostiinta/#comment-43760 bonus joke, found in teh archives.

08:31:21 assbot: Stiinta si pseudostiinta pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

08:31:59 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight it's an absolute cesspool. i doubt 4chan could make a worse one if they tried.

08:32:05 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's a great one

08:32:48 BingoBoingo: "Through there passes the hand of job and speaks:" << This needs used more.

08:34:03 mircea_popescu: it's almost perfect nonsense

08:34:44 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight what freelancing do you do anyway ?

08:35:33 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, I agree regarding the forum; will check some of alternatives as well

08:36:10 DreadKnight: regarding freelancing, mainly graphics (2d / 3d) and various computer stuff (helping people with crowd funding for example)

08:36:56 mircea_popescu: i want someone to do romanian to english translation.

08:37:40 DreadKnight: Internet is full of that so I didn't bothered with it, but I could do

08:37:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00087206 = 12.9065 BTC [-] {2}

08:38:36 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVwldeeIHcs << superobnoxious romanian chick.

08:38:36 assbot: London Film and Comic Con 2014 - YouTube

08:39:09 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, are you looking to get your older blog posts translated or only write in romanian and get constant conversion?

08:39:52 mircea_popescu: older, and not even mine.

08:40:13 BingoBoingo: Oh poker sockpuppeteer scamzor dude posts on PeterL's thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708813.msg8207565#msg8207565

08:40:14 assbot: MPEx securities discussion thread

08:40:15 mircea_popescu: i don't think mine are even translatable in the first place. maybe by someone that's mentally ill and quite drunk.

08:40:49 DreadKnight: that chick has less views on the video than her number of subscribers, that's really bad

08:41:36 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, yeah, would be wanting to translate your blog posts for sure lol

08:41:48 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i don't think mine are even translatable in the first place. maybe by someone that's mentally ill and quite drunk. << Even then it always took me so many iterations to even come close

08:41:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol

08:42:06 BingoBoingo: True story

08:42:12 mircea_popescu: i knew i should have put "who gets lucky" in there too

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08:42:49 BingoBoingo: !b 7

08:44:49 mircea_popescu: " I would rather trust my funds with Cryptostocks than MPEx" well that's a winning proposition for sure. i would say he should, and that'll be punishment enough.

08:45:10 DreadKnight: my badly rushed grammar got stucked in that bash xD

08:45:37 mircea_popescu: never rush grammar for one never knows when the amber's droplet's about to drop.

08:45:50 mircea_popescu: minus a 's in there.

08:46:37 DreadKnight: so I found this awesome commenting system / forum a while ago, but the devs stick with a manifest to not allow editing posts for too long; and even the devs make no sense in posts at times xD

08:47:05 mircea_popescu: ask them if they want bitcoin advertising ?

08:47:14 mircea_popescu: im paying 10 bux a day for the rest of the month.

08:48:07 mircea_popescu: who's pummle ?

08:48:38 mircea_popescu: monthold acct, tryin to fight the good fight among the nuts, it's one of you gais isn;'t it

08:48:57 DreadKnight: they don't seem to be accepting bitcoins yet

08:48:58 mircea_popescu: "WoT is a gimmick just like GPG. 99.9% of bitcoin businesses don't take it seriously." o the win in that. lmao.

08:49:11 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight do they seem to be making 10 bux a day yet ?

08:49:53 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, they seem to be making more, nice SaaS business plan compared to disqus, but I don't like not being able to edit posts, so will keep my distance

08:50:06 DreadKnight: haven't seen ads on their website

08:50:10 mircea_popescu: you can't edit lines in here...

08:50:21 mircea_popescu: lol sec.

08:50:23 mircea_popescu: !up DreadKnight

08:50:28 DreadKnight: this is IRC, perfectly fine

08:50:35 BingoBoingo: who's pummle ? << peterl's new account

08:50:43 mircea_popescu: ah

08:51:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 120 @ 0.00431082 = 0.5173 BTC [+] {3}

08:51:31 mircea_popescu: "Why do you think no real stock exchanges use gpg?"

08:51:51 mircea_popescu: lmao that guy is going to be so much fun in a decade or so. i r hope someone's saving jjmothy's derpage, just in case he goes all goat later on

08:54:53 BingoBoingo: Maybe if .lk guy show up again we can see if he'll put a bow on that package

08:55:14 mircea_popescu: a right, there's the auto lk proxy

08:55:45 DreadKnight: regarding listing something on MPEx etc, only the IPO brings in money overall, so would rather buy part of the stocks myself for cheap and sell them later? or advertise the IPO to a lot of people?

08:57:35 mircea_popescu: http://danielpbarron.com/ << check out this guy's page. old school.

08:57:39 assbot: Daniel P. Barron

08:57:48 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight come again ?

08:58:21 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, still trying to figure out the whole listing business, most articles are about buying stock, not listing

08:58:42 mircea_popescu: okay, but what specifically are you trying to do ?

08:59:29 DreadKnight: if I were to list Ancient Beast to get funding for it

09:00:41 mircea_popescu: problem there would be that your putative investors would have relatively little reason to believe you won't simply walk after the listing.

09:01:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00086897 = 17.0318 BTC [-]

09:05:04 DreadKnight: that applies to most things online

09:06:09 mircea_popescu: not really.

09:06:12 BingoBoingo: Safest option would be prolly one where Ancient Beast comes into the S.MG fold

09:07:21 mircea_popescu: maybe, but i was kinda planning on eulora having an in-game card game, in the style of arcomage in mm6/7

09:07:24 mircea_popescu: except better.

09:07:49 mircea_popescu: (obviously. for the record, any "like" i do re eulora must be prepended with "Except better". and appended too, for safety)

09:09:27 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, are you designing Eulora?

09:10:24 mircea_popescu: yes.

09:15:24 DreadKnight: https://bitcointa.lk/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Ffraudsters.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2Fjjuta-splash-s.png&hash=b72d39c35a337e7dea4be214bc1c1cde

09:15:39 DreadKnight: is that Minigames artwork? a bit confused

09:16:57 mircea_popescu: yes, it is.

09:17:10 mircea_popescu: splash screen

09:17:12 mircea_popescu: well, one of.

09:18:15 DreadKnight: by Jason Jute, who does a lot of Wizards of the Coast cards

09:18:49 mircea_popescu: yes.

09:21:35 BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight

09:22:21 mircea_popescu: an' that's all for me.

09:22:33 mircea_popescu: take it ezzy good ppl of teh cryptos.

09:23:26 DreadKnight: rest well

09:24:30 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, feel free to link me to that blog you said it needs translated

09:28:56 BingoBoingo: !up [1]bonusdz

09:29:07 DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu feel free to link me to that blog you said it needs translated; taking a look at solforge atm, I'm not too much into card games, but it has a very nice website at least :) seems the game was crowd funded

09:29:08 gribble: The operation succeeded.

09:31:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11449 @ 0.00086897 = 9.9488 BTC [-]

09:34:50 chetty: <DreadKnight> mircea_popescu, are you designing Eulora?// and redesigning too!

09:38:41 DreadKnight: :D

09:39:20 DreadKnight: chetty, are you trying out the prototype from time to time or what?

09:40:29 chetty: I am actively coding the game DreadKnight

09:40:54 DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu seems solforge is not browser based and there are no linux / mac versions, pff

09:40:54 gribble: The operation succeeded.

09:41:49 DreadKnight: chetty, oh; I don't know much about it though, seems a bit underground atm

09:42:51 chetty: well its early alpha but there is a server running and we have channel here #eulora

09:43:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00086638 = 11.3496 BTC [-]

09:52:11 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

09:52:14 gribble: Current Blocks: 314529 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 1982 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 23707652761.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.16259

09:52:22 BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight

09:53:04 BingoBoingo: %d

09:53:05 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 408602.59 in 56 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.54

09:53:11 DreadKnight: ty

09:53:17 BingoBoingo: Yw

09:54:05 DreadKnight: <mircea_popescu> maybe, but i was kinda planning on eulora having an in-game card game, in the style of arcomage in mm6/7 <-- well, I'm not making a MMORPG, so no direct competition xD plus I already have the combat system for my project in place

10:09:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11681 @ 0.00086662 = 10.123 BTC [+] {2}

10:10:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00086756 = 4.251 BTC [+]

10:23:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6101 @ 0.00086881 = 5.3006 BTC [+]

10:24:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15221 @ 0.00087098 = 13.2572 BTC [+]

10:48:35 BingoBoingo: !s matheny

10:48:35 assbot: 3 results for 'matheny' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=matheny

10:51:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00086756 = 5.5958 BTC [-]

10:51:27 chetty: eulora wiki has my hack at compile instructions for gentoo if anybody wants to try it http://www.eulorum.org/Installing_Eulora#Linux

10:51:28 assbot: Installing Eulora - Eulorum

11:15:07 BingoBoingo: !up [KS]

11:15:16 BingoBoingo: Nice host name [KS]

11:20:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35355 @ 0.00086587 = 30.6128 BTC [-] {3}

11:35:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15429 @ 0.00087098 = 13.4384 BTC [+]

11:47:24 DreadKnight: ;;later tell mircea_popescu so much for solforge shitty wordpress website, only managed to read a page and it got hacked, hilarious http://i3.minus.com/ibySTyaR5vkNgB.png

11:47:25 gribble: The operation succeeded.

12:01:27 BingoBoingo: DreadKnight: Wait, 1337 haxxors use Hushmail nao?

12:05:08 BigBitz: Heh Hushmail got dem privkeysm yo.

12:05:57 BigBitz: DreadKnight you should get oneTab.

12:06:56 DreadKnight: BingoBoingo, that email address extends the joke :D

12:07:06 BingoBoingo: Ah

12:07:55 DreadKnight: BigBitz, looking into it, I'm actually using something similar that saves memory from idle tabs

12:08:18 DreadKnight: TabMemFree https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabmemfree/pdanbocphccpmidkhloklnlfplehiikb

12:08:18 assbot: Chrome Web Store - TabMemFree

12:08:20 BigBitz: Ah, cool.

12:08:29 BigBitz: don't use hushmail :P

12:10:10 DreadKnight: hushmail was only used to go along with "hush QQ" part (as in "stop crying from so much buthurt" type of thing)

12:10:34 DreadKnight: seems OneTab is more popular and better rated

12:10:45 BingoBoingo: lol

12:11:15 DreadKnight: TabMemFree kinda pawned some of my tabs at times, had to do manual work to recover each idle one, not cool

12:11:49 DreadKnight: thanks for the recommendation BigBitz

12:12:06 BigBitz: np dude.

12:12:15 DreadKnight: had a feeling something good will come out of that screenie :D

12:12:19 BigBitz: :)

12:12:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16636 @ 0.00087158 = 14.4996 BTC [+] {2}

12:23:26 BingoBoingo: %d

12:23:28 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 407061.53 in 51 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.76

12:45:54 kakobrekla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gIhRkCcD4U

12:45:54 assbot: Charting culture - YouTube

12:50:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00087047 = 22.8934 BTC [-]

12:54:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.0008721 = 19.8403 BTC [+] {2}

12:54:41 BingoBoingo: !up thickasthieves

12:56:00 BingoBoingo: !up DreadKnight

13:02:57 thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> https://dribbble.com/hemant_gupta99 prolly not this guy, but... dribble ?! /// you might have some respect for dribbble.com, I forget the whole story by now, but it was started by an elitist graphic designer as an invite-only community meant to prioritize quality. Sorta like a WoTty deviant art. I havent followed it for years tho...

13:02:58 assbot: Dribbble - Hemant Gupta

13:04:47 thickasthieves: i see it's no longer got the WoT aspect, tis freemiun

13:04:50 thickasthieves: freemium

13:06:53 thickasthieves: wait maybe it's still kinda there "All players (members who can post shots) are drafted (invited) by members. Having members take responsibility for those they draft sharpens the focus on sharing interesting work."

13:09:37 BingoBoingo: Interesting

13:11:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22002 @ 0.00087451 = 19.241 BTC [+] {2}

13:14:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/08/content-vs-metrics-sports-edition/

13:36:24 thickasthieves: ;;balance 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2

13:36:25 gribble: 25081.3463102

13:36:47 thickasthieves: another 1000btc today

13:37:00 chetty: whats that ?

13:37:07 thickasthieves: etherium wallet

13:37:17 mike_c: ether bought at inflated prices.

13:37:51 thickasthieves: if mp issued his offer as a coupon it may have worked

13:37:57 thickasthieves: or a groupon

13:38:01 mike_c: half off ether!!

13:38:02 chetty: lmao

13:38:28 thickasthieves: put it on retailmenot

13:39:23 chetty: omg, its on sale, must have somes, somes what?, doesn't matter its on sale!

13:39:56 thickasthieves: like those tv shows with women getting $3000 of hand soap for $3

13:40:18 mike_c: I mean.. i actually feel that pull. 1,000 BTC of ether sold yesterday, and I can get it for 40% of the cost they paid.

13:40:36 thickasthieves: it's an inverse risk tho

13:40:46 mike_c: inverse who?

13:40:54 thickasthieves: the more people buy now, the harder it will fall later

13:41:02 thickasthieves: your 40% might not be good enough

13:41:03 chetty: 3000$ of soap, whats that 3 lifetime supply?

13:41:04 mike_c: true.

13:41:40 mike_c: but the background video on their homepage is so freaking cool

13:41:51 thickasthieves: and those desktop backgrounds!

13:42:14 thickasthieves: such brand

13:42:16 mike_c: scam aside, the design actually isn't bad.

13:42:20 thickasthieves: it's great

13:42:33 thickasthieves: everything they did is visually pro

13:42:52 thickasthieves: that's what they are selling really

13:42:54 thickasthieves: brand

13:43:01 mike_c: quite effectively

13:43:10 thickasthieves: indeed, no competition

13:43:24 thickasthieves: it's how i got into doing btc securities

13:43:40 thickasthieves: it's easy to stand out when everyone looks like a bum

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13:43:57 BingoBoingo: !b 2

13:50:24 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

13:50:27 gribble: Current Blocks: 314554 | Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 | Next Difficulty In: 1957 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 5 hours, 33 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 22448156450.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.77881

13:51:04 pete_dushenski: ;;nethash

13:51:04 gribble: 142565323.893

13:52:30 thickasthieves: ;;estimate

13:52:31 gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 22448156450.1 based on data since last change | 19915841778.6 based on data for last three days

13:53:35 thickasthieves: why are we striking iraq again?

13:56:14 chetty: must protect the innocent ya know

13:57:18 *: chetty wonders how many people got killed by dropping them water and food

13:59:26 mike_c: "the pesh merga now complain of being short on ammunition and outgunned by militants who have seized caches of advanced U.S. military equipment from the Iraqi army."

14:01:17 thickasthieves: i suppose it makes more sense to drop bombs than guns

14:13:09 chetty: must equally equip the sides, or its not FAIR

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14:13:33 BingoBoingo: !b 5

14:19:45 pankkake: Bitcoin is an open protocol for online decentralized transactions. In the Bitcoin P2P network, there are transaction processors (nodes called "minors") and nodes that perform transactions using a wallet. Everyone can be an auditor ("minor") and everyone can send and receive bitcoins, without necessarily being a "minor".

14:20:39 BingoBoingo: pankkake: Where is this lulzy summary?

14:20:46 pankkake: Paymium.com :p

14:21:10 pankkake: hello davout

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14:21:37 BingoBoingo: !b 4

14:22:04 pankkake: mineur can mean miner and minor, in French

14:22:49 pankkake: and of course Bitcoin is used mostly by 15 year olds

14:22:52 davout: pankkake: ohai

14:22:58 pankkake: so it isn't entirely wrong

14:23:11 davout: lol where the fuck is that?

14:23:26 pankkake: https://paymium.com/page/help

14:23:26 assbot: Paymium | The European exchange

14:23:59 wywialm: hello

14:24:00 davout: lol, i'll leave it like that, for the lulz

14:25:07 davout: i'll add a mention about assymetric crypto

14:25:19 decimation: maybe that is where the COIN fund will buy BTC

14:29:11 decimation: are there any folks from the UK that have used this exchange? https://secure.netagio.com/

14:29:13 assbot: Netagio Securely Buy, Sell and Store Your Bitcoins and Gold

14:35:27 BingoBoingo: %d

14:35:28 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 407121.03 in 50 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -40.76

14:41:58 BigBitz: http://www.youarenotpayingattention.com/2014/08/08/the-lie-behind-1-2-billion-stolen-passwords/

14:41:58 assbot: The Lie Behind 1.2 Billion Stolen Passwords

14:42:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17937 @ 0.00087293 = 15.6577 BTC [-]

14:44:01 decimation: apparently the Netagio exchange pays a 0.1% rebate per trade if they are out-of-the-money, to encourage liquidity. In-the-money trades are charged 0.5% fee

14:45:07 BigBitz: ;;gpg info decimation

14:45:07 gribble: User 'decimation', with keyid 106FEE1B40AA2A95, fingerprint 22B34B42FE4414F836EBACD6106FEE1B40AA2A95, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Apr 25 00:22:58 2014, last authed on Thu Aug 7 14:40:39 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=decimation . Currently authenticated from hostmask decimation!~decimatio@unaffiliated/decimation .

14:45:29 BigBitz: are you affiliated with them decimation? :)

14:46:27 decimation: nope, just curious, I don't even have an account there. That is why I am soliciting information from those who may have.

14:47:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 291 @ 0.00235 = 0.6839 BTC [-] {3}

14:50:47 mike_c: wasn't there a guy in here doing the first-best-greatest UK btc exchange?

14:50:51 BingoBoingo: http://banksworstfear.com/custom-porn-bitcoin-story/

14:50:53 assbot: Custom Porn and Bitcoin Story | Banks Worst Fear

14:51:33 chetty: <mike_c> wasn't there a guy in here doing the first-best-greatest UK btc exchange?// at least 3 times

14:52:06 decimation: mike_c yeah I vaguely remember that guy

14:52:35 mike_c: BingoBoingo: that girl's a worker. good for her.

14:53:37 BingoBoingo: mike_c: Yeah bespoke porn is an under rated niche

14:53:44 decimation: this tool http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-04-2014#641254

14:53:45 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

14:54:29 decimation: the netagio exchange is affiliated with goldmoney (is a spinoff) which has a good rep for gold trading, as far as I know

14:54:39 BigBitz: That's CoinFloor isn't it?

14:54:46 BigBitz: Nefario^ the GLBSE guy?

14:55:02 BingoBoingo: Oh shit!

14:55:29 BingoBoingo: Only one letter difference!

14:55:37 BigBitz: ?

14:55:50 mike_c: two letters. math is hard.

14:55:53 BingoBoingo: Damn

14:56:08 BigBitz: Oh netagio you mean, no... Nefario (if I recall) is involved with CoinFloor.

14:56:45 decimation: yeah the choice of name is unfortunate for them

15:01:59 BingoBoingo: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5508431&cid=47629895

15:02:00 assbot: Yahoo To Add PGP Encryption For Email - Slashdot

15:02:41 BingoBoingo: decimation: Unfortunate enough to illustrate they don't know the space they have chosen to operate in

15:05:31 mike_c: two letters different is better than kraken

15:06:44 BingoBoingo: True

15:08:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00087023 = 8.2672 BTC [-] {2}

15:10:35 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: and just as i was setting up a new @yahoo email account ;)

15:10:58 BingoBoingo: Well, PGP as a browser plugin seems horrid.

15:11:52 BingoBoingo: Pretty soon there are going to be all these new public keys and no idea if the person you are mailing to is just letting Yahoo of a JS plugin do the decryption

15:12:55 pankkake: I have not seen any mention of PGP in the actual sources

15:12:56 pete_dushenski: agreed

15:13:13 pankkake: they're actually mentionning inventing something new, together with google…

15:13:49 pete_dushenski: pankkake: hm ya

15:14:07 pete_dushenski: they don't use it by name, just "end-to-end encryption" or some such

15:14:31 pete_dushenski: not sure where derpy blogger got the idea that pgp is anywhere involved

15:14:51 pete_dushenski: and that yahoo is working with google is… the end

15:16:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24897 @ 0.00086986 = 21.6569 BTC [-] {2}

15:17:02 BingoBoingo: Yahoo has an odd history of who it partners with, bouncing back and forth between Google and Microsoft.

15:17:08 chetty: <pete_dushenski> and that yahoo is working with google is? the end// dun dun dun

15:17:32 BigBitz: Google: The Internet Police.

15:17:41 pete_dushenski: BigBitz: basically

15:17:44 BigBitz: Yup...

15:18:03 pete_dushenski: but the question is: is yahoo any better?

15:18:41 chetty: yahoo: police cadet corps.

15:19:50 pete_dushenski: lol

15:20:02 pete_dushenski: making hotmail the boy scouts

15:20:13 pete_dushenski: and hushmail the girl scouts

15:20:22 BigBitz: hushmail got dem keys yo.

15:20:27 BigBitz: giving da key up erryday.

15:20:35 pete_dushenski: http://contravex.com/2014/08/03/democracy-vs-aristocracy/#comment-1231 << this tal guy is relentless

15:20:39 assbot: Democracy vs. Aristocracy | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski

15:21:06 pete_dushenski: BigBitz: well, at least they use keys

15:21:13 pete_dushenski: which is sorta like using a ripped condom

15:21:19 pete_dushenski: "well, better than nothing!"

15:21:38 thickasthieves: lol could you pick a worse example?

15:21:48 thickasthieves: better than nothing, condoms? ha!

15:22:41 BigBitz: lol

15:22:42 pete_dushenski: um.. ?

15:22:56 BigBitz: yeah but they give up the keys if the .gov ask.

15:23:30 pete_dushenski: thickasthieves: here, condoms are pgp, ripped condoms are hushmail, and bareback is gmail

15:23:59 thickasthieves: who uses a ripped condom tho?

15:24:14 mike_c: inb4 women who want a baby!

15:25:15 pete_dushenski: mike_c: lol

15:25:45 pete_dushenski: ok, a really cheap condom that is highly likely to break

15:26:25 pete_dushenski: so pgp is trojan, hushmail is some flavoured thing from a bathroom vending machine

15:27:19 pete_dushenski: hushmail looks intact and you probably can't see clearly enough to care if it isn't so, y'know, good enough

15:27:30 BigBitz: Hushmail is the condom with the pin through it.

15:28:11 pete_dushenski: AndreasMAntonopoulos @aantonop "I’ve been asked to appear as a witness to present information and Q&A at a Canadian Senate hearing on Bitcoin. Should I say yes or not?"

15:30:42 pete_dushenski: obviously, derpopolous should take this opportunity to tell the federalis how the blockchain is going to decentralize smart contracts and replace bureaucrats with dacs

15:36:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17616 @ 0.00087074 = 15.339 BTC [+] {2}

15:40:04 BigBitz: Oh God.

15:40:08 BigBitz: I don't like that guy.

15:41:06 pete_dushenski: he's awful

15:42:55 BingoBoingo: It gets worse: http://nypost.com/2014/08/07/squeegee-men-are-back-and-terrorizing-city-streets/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

15:42:56 assbot: Squeegee men are back terrorizing NYC streets | New York Post

15:43:25 BigBitz: How is he such 'important' to people pete_dushenski?

15:45:12 pete_dushenski: BigBitz: he was a naive optimist with a podcast

15:45:34 pete_dushenski: he was at the right place at the right time to lead a bunch of redditards to their doom

15:45:42 pete_dushenski: he pumped neobee and some other scams

15:46:16 BigBitz: Ah yes - he was the NeoBee moron.

15:46:18 pete_dushenski: he was an inspirational speaker compared to anyone else at the time

15:46:22 BigBitz: Yet he's got some sort of accolade.

15:46:25 *: BigBitz facepalms.

15:46:32 pete_dushenski: he's definitely gone quiet since mp killed him

15:46:56 pete_dushenski: he also finagled his way into a cto positions at blockchain.info

15:47:35 pete_dushenski: where he famously went on a weeklong radio silence vacation right then bc.info was getting haxxored the hardest

15:47:36 BigBitz: Yeah I saw that as well...

15:47:39 BigBitz: that made me laugh, a lot.

15:47:44 BigBitz: He's a joke.

15:47:59 BigBitz: what did MP do?

15:48:07 BigBitz: ask him to 4+4 ?

15:49:02 BingoBoingo: Killed him on twitter

15:50:11 pete_dushenski: http://contravex.com/2014/05/27/the-five-biggest-threats-facing-coindesk-and-anyone-who-reads-it/#footnote_4_766

15:50:12 assbot: The Five Biggest Threats Facing CoinDesk and Anyone Who Reads It | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski

15:50:23 pete_dushenski: it came down to privilege

15:51:54 BigBitz: Hmm.

15:52:00 BigBitz: Fool.

15:55:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14689 @ 0.00086994 = 12.7785 BTC [-] {2}

15:58:00 pete_dushenski: http://instagram.com/p/rcLb0Htq0N/ << argentina gets a bitcoin atm

15:58:00 assbot: Instagram

15:58:29 pete_dushenski: looks ready to be walked away with

16:00:00 BingoBoingo: Someone needs to learn to read http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2cz8mv/can_i_make_anonymous_btc_donations_to_myself_in/

16:00:02 assbot: Can I make anonymous btc donations to myself in order to clean my cash so I can spend it? : Bitcoin

16:00:08 BigBitz: rate seems expensive.

16:00:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 15.70883608 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1366 satoshi per share

16:02:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.01475 = 2.95 BTC [-]

16:04:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.62830088 BTC to 12`777 shares, 12744 satoshi per share

16:05:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 3.39773396 BTC to 29`438 shares, 11542 satoshi per share

16:19:29 BingoBoingo: !up moiety

16:19:56 moiety: thanks

16:20:26 BingoBoingo: How have you been since saving the flat?

16:20:28 moiety: ;; later tell mircea_popescu i didn't talk to them, it was a message left. unsure what to do with the phone line?

16:20:28 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:20:36 moiety: its an ongoing thing BingoBoingo not going so well

16:20:43 BingoBoingo: Ouch

16:20:49 moiety: square 1 every month

16:21:28 BingoBoingo: The fight never ends

16:31:15 BingoBoingo: http://np.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2cnjje/please_stop_vote_brigading/

16:31:17 assbot: Please stop vote brigading. : Buttcoin

16:36:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00087322 = 9.2561 BTC [+]

16:38:18 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell moiety unsure what to do with the phone line? << iirc it was prepaid for a year, did a btc's worth of call answering run out already ?

16:38:18 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:39:05 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight yeah solforge is one of these tablet/steam only types of things. a lot of people are (stupidly) going that way these days.

16:39:15 BingoBoingo: %d

16:39:16 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 404777.01 in 45 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -41.10

16:42:34 mircea_popescu: hey bb.

16:44:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 69 @ 0.01491943 = 1.0294 BTC [+] {3}

16:45:23 BingoBoingo: Finally under 50 blocks until we find out what diff does next

16:47:59 moiety: It's been three months. It's been extremely quiet for the past two. I did say at the time, should we not do a month or three to see how it went is what i mean mircea_popescu.

16:51:20 BingoBoingo: !up moiety

16:52:12 moiety: ty

17:00:04 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: http://www.wired.com/2014/08/how-to-use-your-cat-to-hack-your-neighbors-wi-fi/

17:00:04 assbot: How to Use Your Cat to Hack Your Neighbor’s Wi-Fi | Threat Level | WIRED

17:00:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33497 @ 0.00086805 = 29.0771 BTC [-] {3}

17:00:26 BingoBoingo: ^ In your neck of the woods

17:03:32 mircea_popescu: moiety kinda good to have in the background sort of thing imo. that's kinda the idea, i never expected any significant sort of volume.

17:06:57 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, really find that way stupid as well; wasn't very excited about steam coming to linux in the first place, but maybe someday SteamOS consoles will be popular, like OUYA was somewhat expected, but until then, steam is an extra layer, just to get more ads and see a ton of "your friend is not playing dota2"

17:07:21 DreadKnight: got a medium range tablet and it's still crappy thing compared to a pc

17:08:27 mircea_popescu: i really don't like these walled garden bullshits.

17:08:29 DreadKnight: s/not/now*

17:08:41 mircea_popescu: maybe i'm not quite as radical as pankkake about it, but i defo don't like em.

17:09:20 DreadKnight: the web was supposed to be "the thing" imo, not packaged apps for more linux based distros each having their own store

17:09:25 pankkake: Steam seems popular with Windows users, it seems to be one of the less intrusive "stores"

17:09:35 pankkake: and IIRC not all games from Steam come with DRM

17:09:39 mircea_popescu: well for windows users rape in an alley is an improvement.

17:09:44 chetty: DreadKnight, to answer your earlier question, no I am not running gentoo

17:10:14 DreadKnight: chetty, oh, no +1 for being nerdy stat then xD

17:10:35 BingoBoingo: This thing with steam is you can sandbox it somewhere, as opposed to iOS

17:11:00 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight join #eulora

17:11:43 BingoBoingo: Windows steam runs fine on Linux

17:12:02 BingoBoingo: Linux steam runs fine on some linuxes

17:13:27 mircea_popescu: ahahah DreadKnight http://i3.minus.com/ibySTyaR5vkNgB.png that' slulz.y

17:14:14 pankkake: Steam is Linux's Bitpay

17:15:43 BingoBoingo: Steam's its own kind of evil, but...

17:16:13 ben_vulpes: to the dylan song, and re centos: "everything must run as root!"

17:17:40 BingoBoingo: Even the installer shouldn't run as root

17:17:56 BingoBoingo: dd instead

17:20:12 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, when my wordpress got hacked, I didn't get such a nice page left in place T_T

17:20:32 mircea_popescu: lol

17:20:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00086612 = 3.6377 BTC [-]

17:20:50 mircea_popescu: http://solforgegame.com/ << now they're just dead.

17:20:51 assbot: Database Error

17:21:04 mircea_popescu: that didn't look like a wp hack, incidentally. they lost root.

17:21:53 BingoBoingo: !up moiety

17:23:29 mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/29H78RP << here's a lulzy example of the exploit failfully injected in the wild. from http://prezi.com/_x4ho5z02njk/untitled-prezi/

17:23:30 assbot: dpaste: 29H78RP

17:23:31 assbot: Untitled Prezi by Donovan Rosales on Prezi

17:23:41 moiety: sorry BB

17:23:45 mircea_popescu: basically computer hacking and viral/bacterial infection are by now so very similar...

17:24:21 ben_vulpes: lulzotron: http://www.slideshare.net/brandonwatson/imsafer-angel-round

17:24:22 assbot: IMSafer Angel Round

17:24:38 BingoBoingo: moiety: It happens

17:35:07 mircea_popescu: !up esrunuk

17:35:22 esrunuk: cheers

17:35:26 mircea_popescu: hey there.

17:43:24 []bot: Bet created: "Crude Oil WTI over $110 this year" http://bitbet.us/bet/1015/

17:48:59 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

17:49:03 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 590.06, Best ask: 591.41, Bid-ask spread: 1.35000, Last trade: 590.04, 24 hour volume: 4967.44468410, 24 hour low: 583.93, 24 hour high: 595.0, 24 hour vwap: 0

17:50:23 []bot: Bet created: "Dogecoin to keep sinking" http://bitbet.us/bet/1016/

17:52:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00087061 = 24.5512 BTC [+] {2}

17:53:06 BingoBoingo: verification link no worky on bet doge drop

17:54:47 BingoBoingo: %d

17:54:49 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 404777.01 in 45 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -41.10

17:58:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.01492 = 0.6117 BTC [+]

17:59:04 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/1016/dogecoin-to-keep-sinking/ << seems bitbet mangles urls with <br /> stuff ?

17:59:04 assbot: BitBet - Dogecoin to keep sinking :: 0.08 B (80%) on Yes, 0.02 B (20%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 99`993 (100`000 to 1)

18:01:43 BingoBoingo: ;;seen dotcoin

18:01:44 gribble: dotcoin was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 weeks, 5 days, 18 hours, 18 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <dotcoin> if you see only 80k tomorrow on sale means 20k are sold you need a calculator for that

18:01:59 mircea_popescu: wow wait, the guy was here ?

18:02:01 mircea_popescu: how did i miss that.

18:02:24 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell dotcoin No come lately here around, why?

18:02:25 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:02:43 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's been a while

18:03:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11984 @ 0.00087233 = 10.454 BTC [+]

18:08:59 kakobrekla: mircea_popescu seems people have trouble following instructions !

18:11:15 mircea_popescu: hm

18:17:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00087233 = 16.6615 BTC [+]

18:23:37 BingoBoingo: How did I miss more dank https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646166.0

18:23:37 assbot: Am about to go homeless, could use some help

18:24:53 BingoBoingo: http://dankcoin.org/dankmessage.html

18:24:54 assbot: dankcoin

18:28:17 mircea_popescu: probably, you blinked.

18:29:29 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu:DreadKnight do you get your gribble pms ? <-- oh actually no, got confused; I looked through the log

18:30:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.0149351 = 0.6123 BTC [+]

18:31:50 fluffypony: every time I try and have a rational discussion with Jimmothy I want to stab him in the face.

18:31:54 fluffypony: I give up

18:32:13 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Giving up restraint?

18:32:28 fluffypony: why he is such a stupid fuckface?

18:33:07 chetty: fluffypony, the world is full of em

18:33:44 pankkake: the thread lacks a funny factor

18:33:45 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: But if you stab Jimmothy in the face suddenly everyone will buy MPEx seats!

18:33:54 fluffypony: stupid fucker

18:34:09 fluffypony: "A seat would mean there are a limited amount and you can sell your own seat. On mpex you can buy a "seat" and sell unlimited seats to other naive investonomers."

18:34:11 *: DreadKnight was thinking about stabbing people in the face and smiling

18:34:12 pankkake: I read his last posts, just sad hardcore bagholding

18:34:35 fluffypony: by definition, unless MPEX drops it's 30 BTC fee it will become progressively more expensive

18:35:11 fluffypony: until it is so cost-prohibitive that basically nobody can afford one

18:35:17 fluffypony: so there you go, there's a limited amount

18:35:35 mike_c: who cares semantics? call it a membership.

18:35:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0149499 = 0.598 BTC [+] {2}

18:35:49 fluffypony: Jimbo cares

18:36:30 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=725265.0 if you want more scam sadness

18:36:30 assbot: Coinpal.com Stocks - 18740 (worth 0.001 each) for 5BTC

18:36:39 chetty: folks enjoy arguing over anything but the substance of what is

18:38:06 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg8253056#msg8253056

18:38:06 assbot: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated]

18:38:19 pankkake: there's really nothing left to salvage

18:41:21 kakobrekla: >There are numerous reports saying bitbet scammed users.

18:41:40 kakobrekla: fuck you i report your report to reporter of the reporting reportuity

18:43:06 mod6: tell 'em!

18:43:17 kakobrekla: just did!

18:43:21 mod6: :D

18:43:32 pankkake: anyone active on https://www.bitcoinforum.com/ ? (and there's actually a coinbr subforum)

18:43:34 assbot: Bitcoin Forum - The Unofficial Bitcoin Forum

18:46:19 mircea_popescu: fluffypony> I give up << do you know the guy ?

18:46:44 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no, not apart from the occasional frustrating interaction on Bitcointalk

18:46:51 fluffypony: every time it makes me want to stab him a little more

18:47:06 mircea_popescu: he's been on this bash mpex for nonsensical reason for much too long by now.

18:47:30 mircea_popescu: there's no possibility of any sort of rational process involved, he's some guy who figures he's going to "do damage" to mpex by being stupid online.

18:47:51 mircea_popescu: not bothering to consider that if THAT'S how things worked it'd have been lights out a long time ago.

18:48:23 DreadKnight: haters gonna hate

18:48:59 fluffypony: yeah

18:49:05 mircea_popescu: to some degree he's educated tho, he displays about the same low level sophisms in general use by th population of online libtards

18:49:05 fluffypony: and hatters gonna hat

18:49:16 BigBitz: I'd love a new hat.

18:49:22 mircea_popescu: i could be ron paul for the same money.

18:49:24 BigBitz: fluffypony plz2bai new hat.

18:50:17 mircea_popescu: pankkake that is pretty sad.

18:50:18 mike_c: it doesn't seem he's just on a bash mpex kick. he bashes everything.

18:50:36 DreadKnight: he's probably poor and jelly

18:50:40 BigBitz: I am poor.

18:50:45 DreadKnight: and jelly?

18:50:46 mircea_popescu: mike_c ah ok. well i only see the occasional snippets people post @me once they're going all rage-y.

18:50:51 BigBitz: not jelly :D

18:50:54 BigBitz: Just poor.

18:50:59 mircea_popescu: BigBitz how can you be poor, you been mining for long enough

18:51:10 BigBitz: me?

18:51:18 BigBitz: you must be mistaking me, mircea_popescu.

18:51:18 mircea_popescu: yes you

18:51:25 DreadKnight: I am poor too, trying to not be jelly on simple games that made lots of money

18:51:27 BigBitz: I mined for about a month...

18:51:30 BigBitz: then sold my BFLs.

18:51:33 mircea_popescu: oh

18:51:36 mircea_popescu: i missed that part.

18:51:43 BigBitz: but I didn't get into Bitcoin for some time. April 2013.

18:52:02 BigBitz: So I didn't amass much. Such a shame, really, I first 'found' Bitcoin in Summer 2009... Sigh... what could have been mircea_popescu :)

18:52:08 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, so if you still need freelancer or whatever, lol *cough*

18:52:12 DreadKnight: translator*

18:52:15 BigBitz: I could have been half as rich as you mircea_popescu ;)

18:52:25 mircea_popescu: or twice.

18:52:41 DreadKnight: people who don't have the rich mentality get back to being poor in no time

18:52:42 BigBitz: twice would have made me as rich \o/

18:52:47 BigBitz: DreadKnight it's a state of mind :)

18:52:51 DreadKnight: yeah

18:52:59 BigBitz: It's OK; I can cope.

18:53:05 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight what, him ? but he don't speakz romanians.

18:53:27 DreadKnight: I used to think I need to know a lot of nerdy stuff and work hard to earn, then I started seeing people playing games and making way more with less work xD

18:53:39 mircea_popescu: <DreadKnight> I am poor too, trying to not be jelly on simple games that made lots of money << you are probably making the mistake of mentally restricting the universe to some sort of schoolyard definition of "merit"

18:53:44 mircea_popescu: that's not how things work.

18:54:31 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, meant me regarding translation :P

18:55:14 DreadKnight: but yeah, I'm still figuring out things regarding mentality

18:55:16 mircea_popescu: uh. im still trying to pin down exactly what it was you do. originally figured some coder guy, then you wanted to do 3d models, now you want to translate

18:55:20 mircea_popescu: you know you gotta pick something.

18:55:58 BigBitz: He's a 3D modelling coder.

18:55:59 BigBitz: Duh.

18:56:05 BigBitz: He can juggle as well...

18:56:11 DreadKnight: true, I spend a lot of time on computer usually, told you before, jack of all trades atm, hopefully will specialize and stick with one thing, but sounds boring

18:56:14 kakobrekla: translating the code into 3d.

18:56:18 kakobrekla: doh

18:56:25 mircea_popescu: lol meanies.

18:56:37 mircea_popescu: "Hi, my name is Sean Martin. I have been active on these forums for three years now. I am an aspiring guitarist that has an important message to share with the world and a unique style and huge potential to make it big." << dank is incredibly fixated on his guitar stuff.

18:56:40 BigBitz: 3D Coding. While rock climbing.

18:56:53 DreadKnight: haha; nah just computer stuff

18:57:02 kakobrekla: BigBitz ascii prolly didit.

18:57:08 mircea_popescu: 3d coding while climbing a 3d version of a mountain.

18:57:18 chetty: perfecto

18:57:26 BigBitz: Bang on mircea_popescu.

18:57:37 mircea_popescu: "My struggle is that due to my honesty and adamancy to share what I learned through my journeys, many have come to judge me rather than seek to understand me."

18:57:41 mircea_popescu: ahahaha wtf.

18:57:45 mike_c: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWuRz9inGxc

18:57:45 assbot: Guitar guy at the party - YouTube

18:57:57 BigBitz: http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x31/evilbdayclown/1136274666409.jpg

18:58:00 DreadKnight: non-understood teenager

18:58:05 mircea_popescu: dem hippies need daily beatings.

18:58:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14548 @ 0.00087607 = 12.7451 BTC [+]

18:58:33 chetty: <mircea_popescu> dem hippies need daily beatings.// are they worth the effort?

18:58:36 DreadKnight: that image goes to my "cute or funny" collection

18:58:50 mircea_popescu: chetty no. but they still have needs.

18:59:12 chetty: wes all got needs, pppfftt

18:59:15 DreadKnight: violence is the universal language :3

18:59:39 mircea_popescu: lol mike_c

19:01:19 mircea_popescu: can only imagine what tom green'd have done with that one

19:01:58 mike_c: likely more fingers in the ass.

19:02:23 mircea_popescu: deer lady fingers.

19:02:24 mircea_popescu: don't ask.

19:11:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19347 @ 0.00087207 = 16.8719 BTC [-] {3}

19:12:47 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlaA0_z4Rgg look at this. the shit's so sad, by now people with minimally adequate social skills are counted to have a profession out of it.

19:12:47 assbot: Mike Birbiglia: What I Should Have Said, Was Nothing - YouTube

19:13:13 mircea_popescu: "i'm one of the like 50k us people that can tell a story. i got my own website and seminars."

19:18:20 kakobrekla: bitcointalk made me dig up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9LXD72i-1M

19:18:20 assbot: people - YouTube

19:18:40 DreadKnight: "This video is not available in your country." sigh right

19:18:53 kakobrekla: uh

19:19:09 DreadKnight: not the one you linked, kakobrekla

19:19:28 kakobrekla: a

19:19:35 kakobrekla: does mine work?

19:19:41 DreadKnight: ye

19:19:46 kakobrekla: ty

19:20:00 DreadKnight: I can see any vid, but hate when there are internet restrictions full of bs

19:22:29 DreadKnight: it's like youtube is saying "ew, you are in THAT country, ew, gtfo" xD

19:22:49 DreadKnight: racist youtube

19:23:25 kakobrekla: put on 3d coding glasses, maybe those can translate.

19:24:41 DreadKnight: make sure you go patent that, quick

19:24:56 DreadKnight: lol

19:30:10 mircea_popescu: "I am currently living in a hotel room day to day and only have a couple days left before I will be homeless. This is bad because once I am without a place to live, it will only become harder to find one."

19:30:23 mircea_popescu: omfg dank finally croaking into the abyss ? splendid.

19:32:38 mircea_popescu: "I plan on recording a music video with a girl which will help me gain validity and virality."

19:32:45 DreadKnight: I don't get people living in hotels; know a dude around here that does that and works at a supermarket, the math is not right

19:33:05 kakobrekla: O_o

19:33:19 mircea_popescu: DreadKnight banks won't lend to peons. owners won't rent to deadbeats. sink low enough, it's either a cheap motel or the park.

19:33:42 DreadKnight: at least cardboards are free

19:33:47 DreadKnight: boxes*

19:34:51 DreadKnight: yeah, you're probably right, the guy is pretty deadbeat mircea_popescu

19:36:25 DreadKnight: know a 40 year old something that was supposed to be making a MMO, spend about 10 years with 4 pc's in his face while having no real skill, trying to make others to work on his MMORPG for a share of the profits xD finally gave up and now making a trading card game using Unity3d

19:36:41 DreadKnight: he's pretty much only eating ramen

19:38:00 DreadKnight: made like a few crowd funding campaigns, all failed; raised 300 bucks tops which he spend on a crappy engine license and a mocap animation pack (while not having proper characters)

19:38:37 mircea_popescu: "the traditional route : years of rejection and failure untill she's finally spit out the bottom of the porn industry"

19:38:47 DreadKnight: :D

19:39:14 DreadKnight: the dude's not even porn star material

19:40:06 DreadKnight: now he talks money making strategies regarding his TCG while I haven't even seen a single screenie

19:40:28 DreadKnight: "beta next month, beta next month"

19:51:13 mircea_popescu: he should upgrade to two weeks

19:56:22 mircea_popescu: !up [1]bonusdz

19:58:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00087332 = 25.7629 BTC [+]

20:00:24 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/monarch/

20:00:44 mircea_popescu: !t m s.mpoe

20:00:44 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00086525 / 0.00088746 / 0.00091599 (1003453 shares, 890.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00081991 / 0.00087484 / 0.00094217 (3673682 shares, 3,213.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00074501 / 0.00082959 / 0.00094217 (9715212 shares, 8,059.67 BTC)

20:05:34 jborkl: http://www.bcoinnews.com/monarch/

20:05:35 assbot: 403 Forbidden

20:05:51 mircea_popescu: onoes ?

20:06:03 jborkl: lol

20:06:55 jborkl: http://www.bcoinnews.com/monarch/

20:06:55 assbot: 403 Forbidden

20:07:14 jborkl: the site is just refusing gribble

20:07:19 jborkl: or assbot

20:07:48 jborkl: I have spent more time trying eep people out than getting people in

20:07:51 jborkl: eep

20:08:08 jborkl: keep - screw it

20:09:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 81 @ 0.01474 = 1.1939 BTC [-]

20:11:25 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2noFZhLAVvU

20:11:25 assbot: Doug Stanhope - No Refunds - YouTube

20:11:28 mircea_popescu: not bad

20:13:52 jborkl: well, this will spawn a whole new wave of hacking attempts

20:14:56 jborkl: but w/e, I have it all replicated anyway so its all good

20:21:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/no-you-dont-have-something-to-say-on-the-topic/

20:21:42 BigBitz: Doug Stanhope +++

20:29:50 mircea_popescu: i wonder if he does private shows.

20:30:22 mike_c: he's a comic. they do anything for money.

20:31:15 mircea_popescu: isn't it comedian ?

20:31:21 mircea_popescu: comic's the booklet neh ?

20:31:36 chetty: squishy english

20:31:48 mike_c: comic = comedian

20:37:18 mircea_popescu: well lessee if he does bitcoin conference then.,

20:38:30 jborkl: hopefully he does not make fun up people patting each other on the back and jerking each other off in the sauna

20:38:48 jborkl: otherwise he will only hear crickets

20:39:17 mircea_popescu: "There's a kind of Olympic torch of extreme American comedy, which passed from Lenny Bruce, through Richard Pryor and Sam Kinison... to the late Bill Hicks. Stanhope is the latest, and equally brilliant, bearer."

20:39:22 mircea_popescu: that's mabe a little thick

20:39:33 mircea_popescu: jborkl how do you figure ?

20:39:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00087332 = 3.6679 BTC [+]

20:39:53 xanthyos: not a fan of kinison. i think he's hacky

20:40:06 mircea_popescu: ""Ask anyone whose opinion matters, and they'll tell you Doug Stanhope is one of the top ten stand-ups in the world today. " dude there must be something to this seeing how i just randomly saw ten minutes of his act half hour ago and im already doing bookings.

20:40:22 jborkl: most of the conference would leave, unless they don't know

20:40:36 BigBitz: He's funny.

20:40:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30132 @ 0.00087464 = 26.3547 BTC [+]

20:40:59 mircea_popescu: jborkl last time we made fun of them, what'd change.

20:41:15 xanthyos: bill hicks isn't dead. he's alex jones now.

20:41:17 jborkl: huh, good point

20:41:22 chetty: what happened to Carlin in that list of comics?

20:42:19 mircea_popescu: http://www.alperlaw.com/asset-protection/bitcoin-asset-protection/bitcoin-asset-protection-in-florida/ << check out this guy lol.

20:42:22 assbot: Bitcoin Asset Protection Law

20:43:06 jborkl: Maybe they like getting laughed at while jerking off other dudes in the sauna, I never thought of it that way. MP you are always insightful

20:45:38 mircea_popescu: jborkl you're probably confusing the bitcoin conference with whatever random derpage nobodies meeting in a parking lot.

20:45:40 mircea_popescu: $conference

20:45:42 empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 8 months and 9 days. Estimated cost today: 2.22083887 BTC (Details: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )

20:45:43 assbot: The conference, third edition pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

20:45:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 45408 @ 0.00004703 = 2.1355 BTC [-] {14}

20:54:42 jborkl: Now that sounds like a good time

21:02:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00087573 = 10.8153 BTC [+]

21:02:57 pankkake: http://coinfire.cf/2014/08/08/suicidegirls-accepts-bitcoin/

21:02:58 assbot: SuicideGirls Accepts Bitcoin - Coin Fire

21:04:51 mircea_popescu: suicide girls still exists ?!

21:07:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13255 @ 0.00087386 = 11.583 BTC [-] {2}

21:08:10 chetty: http://mediaequalizer.com/brian-maloney/2014/08/if-cnn-says-hong-kongs-in-brazil-it-must-be-so

21:08:11 assbot: If CNN says Hong Kong’s in Brazil, it must be so! | Cable network in yet another ridiculous on-air flub | Media Equalizer

21:16:11 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, ofc, sg is pretty hot even on fb

21:16:44 mircea_popescu: that thing was hot back when digg owned reddit.

21:17:32 DreadKnight: :D

21:17:44 DreadKnight: anyway, too many girls become sg nowadays...

21:17:58 DreadKnight: it's a bit diluted

21:19:19 DreadKnight: used to like 9 out of 10 models, now it's more like 1 out of 10

21:20:07 DreadKnight: maybe I'm growing too old for sg D:

21:20:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00087573 = 6.2177 BTC [+]

21:20:42 DreadKnight: or all them scanks wanna be models and make money just because

21:23:31 decimation: lol from your 'bitcoin lawyer' link: "Practically, there is no public record of Bitcoin purchases. Bitcoin wallets are similarly anonymous as Bitcoin balances and transactions are identified only by a digital code with no link to person or place."

21:24:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00087573 = 6.6555 BTC [+]

21:25:02 mircea_popescu: he is on to blood. any creditor can hide any assets in the chain.

21:26:34 decimation: I wonder how many drug lord clients he has

21:26:51 mircea_popescu: in florida ?

21:26:59 decimation: heh yeah

21:27:31 decimation: 'the street' will have its own uses for bitcoin, once the drug lords figure out how easy it is to move across borders...

21:29:59 DreadKnight: decimation, bitcoin was mentioned like 3 times in a futuristic tv-show called "Almost Human", key words being "black market" and "untraceable"

21:30:34 DreadKnight: (a few months ago)

21:34:02 decimation: yeah, but the drug-lords listen to their drug-lord lawyers, not american tv

21:34:13 decimation: at least the smart ones do

21:34:30 decimation: this particular lawyer has 'discovered' a new market for his clients

21:41:19 mircea_popescu: it's going to lead to a splendid conundrum down the road, because from the pov of bankruptcy/anti-asset protection legal practice, the preferred avenue would be to declar bitcoin wiorthless

21:41:30 mircea_popescu: and then unwind any asset-protective trade as "without consideration"

21:41:37 mircea_popescu: and just steal the buyer's thing to give it to the creditor.

21:41:52 mircea_popescu: however, this is exactly contrary to how the whole rest of the bureaucracy would like to treat it.

21:42:06 mircea_popescu: but that is a pike to drive in the hydra's eye later on, let's not anticipate.

21:42:30 decimation: quite so, bitcoin will enable a whole cottage industry of tax-avoidance

21:42:50 decimation: in the us it's quite important for elderly to have no net worth on paper, so they qualify for free healthcare

21:42:50 mircea_popescu: that's a different story.

21:42:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3959 @ 0.00087589 = 3.4676 BTC [+] {2}

21:43:04 mircea_popescu: what i'm talking about here is, every single college kid getting mailed those ccs ?

21:43:05 decimation: which isn't quite tax avoidance, but it's measurable asset avoidance

21:43:08 mircea_popescu: buying bitcoin and moving to mexico.

21:43:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8091 @ 0.00087784 = 7.1026 BTC [+]

21:45:47 decimation: if your scenario happens (college kids leverage usd debt for bitcoin) that will be the way that the baby boomers lose their lock on elite wealth and power in the us

21:49:16 mircea_popescu: if the kids weren't stupid it'd be happening already.

21:49:24 mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the perfect tool for intergenerational warfare.

21:49:44 mircea_popescu: take the coinfire dood. he thinks he's too old to be arsed to learn gpg ? he thinks he's too mature to submit ?

21:49:52 mircea_popescu: open wide, here comes the rape train.

21:50:06 decimation: re: dynamic equilibrium of bitcoin: I'm pretty convinced that 99% of people born in the west (especially academic specialists) have no idea about 'money', 'currency' 'non-money commodities', whatever words you want to use to label it

21:50:31 mircea_popescu: or about anything else.

21:50:31 decimation: yeah it's pretty much the same way that people think that ssl websites are the best practice in 'secure' data transfer

21:50:42 mircea_popescu: battery chickens have no idea 'bout pine needles. big whoop.

21:51:00 decimation: I also find it amusing that the most important thing that the bureaucrats & academics start derping about are definitions

21:51:16 mircea_popescu: it's the dubious blessing of being raised in a system, that with the safety this entails for as long as the system survives comes intermingled the complete cluelessness and inability to survive.

21:57:18 decimation: hell, no one younger than 50 in the US has tried to buy a house in the context of greater than 10% mortgage rates

22:00:06 decimation: if this whole winklevoss etf thing isn't a scam, bitcoin is probably going to trade 2-10x in dollars by next spring

22:02:06 decimation: it will be highly amusing to watch the anti-bitcoin derps on wallstreet to lose their shirts shorting bitcoin

22:03:09 mircea_popescu: they can't lose their shirts.

22:03:23 mircea_popescu: they got worthless money in infinite supply. as long as they follow the crowd they get to keep the shirts.

22:05:33 mircea_popescu: so recently some new guy was in here with his old idea rehashed and i pointed out to him it'll never work, and it only seems to work for now, because it's not working yet.

22:05:37 mircea_popescu: anyone recall particulars ?

22:08:46 jborkl: money in infinite supply is the us right now

22:09:00 jborkl: pricing is out of control

22:09:51 jborkl: a house for $400,000 6 years ago is easily $600,000

22:10:02 jborkl: maybe more

22:17:37 decimation: this guy? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2014#786307

22:17:37 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

22:28:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00087562 = 25.4805 BTC [-]

22:33:07 mircea_popescu: nah not that decimation

22:33:16 mircea_popescu: was some new guy sorta angling for his project w/e it was.

22:42:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00087784 = 3.1602 BTC [+]

22:50:51 BingoBoingo: %d

22:50:53 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 402578.85 in 33 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -41.42

22:51:01 BingoBoingo: %p

22:51:04 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.09 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 4379.72 GH/s

22:57:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 480 @ 0.00197998 = 0.9504 BTC [+] {2}

23:27:43 BingoBoingo: http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/knowing-charlie-crist-the-complicated-story-of-a-lifelong-politician/2191892

23:27:44 assbot: Who is Charlie Crist? The answer is complicated | Tampa Bay Times

23:33:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.0008764 = 10.4292 BTC [-]

23:44:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36495 @ 0.00087859 = 32.0641 BTC [+] {2}

23:45:38 BingoBoingo: https://www.tilt.com/campaigns/what-is-bitcoin-the-online-bitcoin-school/description

23:45:39 assbot: What Is Bitco.in - The online Bitcoin school - Tilt

23:45:45 BingoBoingo: ^ lulzy

23:52:26 decimation: old news: http://preshing.com/20120208/a-look-back-at-single-threaded-cpu-performance/ << moore's law is dead, actual single-core performance doubles in 5-10 years at best

23:52:27 assbot: A Look Back at Single-Threaded CPU Performance

23:56:23 kakobrekla: !up fanquake

23:56:48 BingoBoingo: !up punkman

23:56:53 BingoBoingo: !up AlexWkz

23:58:51 BingoBoingo: Any Aussies? Canberra over Paramata in rugby seems like an incredibly likely outcome, right?