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00:06:02 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429740 << YES! which is why we called tecan 1st!1111

00:06:02 assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:09:57; mircea_popescu: so importantly - understand that it's in no sense a matter of 'stop being you, be somebody else'. anyone else would confront the same exact problem,, which is to say that this is not able to stand on its own. would work superbly as an add-on product of a company offering this kinbd of thing that can x-sell it.

00:06:37 *: asciilifeform is not ~complete~ idiot

00:08:46 pete_dushenski: ;;ticker

00:08:47 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 416.65, Best ask: 417.02, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 416.7, 24 hour volume: 13751.63415602, 24 hour low: 410.68, 24 hour high: 418.24, 24 hour vwap: None

00:08:59 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429741 << well not quite, he ~could~ buy the whole orchestra and sell machine+nonwinblowz+customization etc.

00:08:59 assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:10:07; mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's not workable, and it wouldn't be workable for trump.

00:09:13 asciilifeform: but usg would not sign off on it.

00:09:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00052301 = 6.1192 BTC [-] {4}

00:09:26 asciilifeform: he would have to sell it in north kr.

00:10:10 asciilifeform: consider iran

00:10:16 asciilifeform: siemens sold them stuxnet-os successfully.

00:10:20 asciilifeform: because...???

00:10:34 asciilifeform: because NO ONE GIVES HALF A FUCK

00:10:39 pete_dushenski: or non datur ?

00:10:56 asciilifeform: no one wants to LIVE badly enough

00:10:58 asciilifeform: to make use of sanity.

00:11:42 pete_dushenski: or they want to live plenty and don't seem to be ~sufficiently~ dying on own petard for using winbloze.

00:11:53 asciilifeform: which is why it is important to ~help them die~.

00:12:02 pete_dushenski: god's work

00:13:54 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429323 << 'momo' calls to mind a) steering wheel company famous for racing helms, b) slang name for retard

00:13:54 assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 21:30:24; asciilifeform: i suggest that the craft of producing mircea_popescu henceforth be referred to as momotronics.

00:18:40 pete_dushenski: http://www.rallynuts.com/user/products/large/MOD_07_lge.jpg << momo wheel : the ultimate in minimalism

00:18:41 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21lsH7r )

00:29:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> no one wants to LIVE badly enough << sadly, this is ~true.

00:29:46 mircea_popescu: nobody is used to the idea that fuck up and it's your ass. not anymore. because hey, "that's no way to live".

00:29:49 mircea_popescu: well... neither is this.

00:41:23 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "only a cynical man would call what these people have lives...this is not how man was supposed to live."

00:43:38 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429640 << fwiw i even enjoy giving pitches in person

00:43:38 assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 22:42:50; *: BingoBoingo starting to think this actually kinda sounds like a pete_dushenski problem

00:48:04 mircea_popescu: " 1]To whomever is now going to say "it's server fault, deedbot should output GPG signed material with proper mimetype like application/pgp-signature". I can only recommend frontal lobotomy by robot that fetches its instructions with wget." << i lolled.

00:48:50 mircea_popescu: in other news today, how to get married in japan : http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbyjia9Msv1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

00:48:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCLqGo )

00:49:29 pete_dushenski: with wet floor pylons ??

00:49:48 mircea_popescu: lol

00:50:00 mircea_popescu: i think the "slippery when wet" thing is much needed instruction for otaku.

00:50:14 pete_dushenski: and bukkake

00:50:25 mircea_popescu: isn't that "wet when slippery" ?

00:51:36 *: pete_dushenski hasn't tried. doesn't know

00:58:16 pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/travel/venice-italy-jewish-ghetto.html << speaking of all things tmsr

00:58:19 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1RCM9ax )

00:58:40 pete_dushenski: '500 Years of Jewish Life in Venice'

00:59:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00052284 = 3.137 BTC [-] {2}

00:59:53 pete_dushenski: "Every Venetian I spoke to, Jew and gentile alike, had expressed deep pessimism about the city’s future." << sounds about right

01:04:26 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429767 << momotaro.

01:04:26 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 00:13:54; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429323 << 'momo' calls to mind a) steering wheel company famous for racing helms, b) slang name for retard

01:04:29 asciilifeform: !s momotaro

01:04:30 assbot: 4 results for 'momotaro' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=momotaro

01:04:39 asciilifeform: jp folktale.

01:09:05 pete_dushenski: ya, just sayin'

01:09:59 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429778 << what even is happening in the pic

01:09:59 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 00:48:50; mircea_popescu: in other news today, how to get married in japan : http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbyjia9Msv1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

01:10:46 asciilifeform: also i notice that jp, like ar, does not manufacture ugly chix in any appreciable qty. at all.

01:11:42 pete_dushenski: letting out of doors and manufacturing are different beasts

01:13:16 asciilifeform: they might feed the ugly chix to koi

01:13:35 asciilifeform: but i will point out that there are not enough koi, or even sharks, on the planet3, to feed the ugly anglo chix to.

01:13:41 asciilifeform: just too big of a job.

01:14:29 pete_dushenski: jp just figured out 'organic food' centuries ago. it's a newer concept to anglos.

01:15:25 asciilifeform: afaik they never invented eating shit to begin with.

01:15:28 asciilifeform: most folks didn't.

01:15:35 asciilifeform: until americans 'helped'.

01:15:48 asciilifeform: starvation was good enough for people-who-had-no-food.

01:16:19 asciilifeform: (yes cn ate swallow nests, crickets, etc. and sure. but modern mass poisoning ~requires~ industry.)

01:16:21 pete_dushenski: pre-americans also had insufficient chemistry

01:17:21 asciilifeform: holy FUCK kakobrekla i have 100% 'silentwings' fans, NEW CASE, WITH ACOUSTIC FOAM, and STILL get resonances.

01:17:25 asciilifeform: wtf, what gives.

01:17:33 asciilifeform: it it the motherfucking disks ?!!

01:17:47 pete_dushenski: shoulda bought silentwings case too

01:17:49 asciilifeform: i threw out 2, replaced with ssd for the cost of their weight in plutonium, i suppose now have to do other 2 ?!!

01:17:58 *: asciilifeform grimaces

01:18:12 kakobrekla: hm

01:18:21 asciilifeform: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

01:18:21 kakobrekla: im curious, which case is it?

01:18:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00052284 = 5.0715 BTC [-]

01:18:23 asciilifeform: 3 days now

01:19:03 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'Thermaltake Suppressor F-51'

01:19:20 asciilifeform: steel, with silencing foam on 4 sides.

01:19:23 kakobrekla: im spinning rust free - i have a few 'hp microservers' for that running in another room

01:19:53 asciilifeform: i have the fucker standing on fist-sized sorbothane legs, too

01:19:56 asciilifeform: doesn't help.

01:20:02 pete_dushenski: http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9364/IMG_2708_678x452.jpg << cases in question

01:20:03 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQlcqi )

01:20:16 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: ick

01:20:19 asciilifeform: WTF with the glass, srsly

01:20:25 asciilifeform: that should be an inch thick foam.

01:20:31 pete_dushenski: gurls love it

01:20:34 asciilifeform: ???

01:21:20 pete_dushenski: "check out my sweet machine babe. you can see INSIDE" "omg that's hot [drops pants, bends over]"

01:21:30 kakobrekla: for case i use 'fractal design r4' which looks surprisingly similar to your pick

01:21:38 pete_dushenski: this is how i imagine thinking works in reddit heads, at least

01:21:58 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i am not a shrink, cannot catalogue every possible delusion

01:22:35 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this thing had noise dampeners and intake filters (bottom and front)

01:22:46 kakobrekla: yes same here

01:23:02 asciilifeform: the hdd fittings are, fucktardedly, plastic tho.

01:23:10 asciilifeform: i suppose everyone is expected to ssd now.

01:23:18 asciilifeform: old case had steel brackets with rubber grommets.

01:23:19 *: nubbins` has cheapest fractal design case

01:23:23 kakobrekla: mine are rubberized

01:23:25 asciilifeform: nubbins`: which ?

01:23:30 nubbins`: core 1000

01:23:35 nubbins`: ~$50

01:23:50 asciilifeform: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/core-series/core-1000-usb-30 << it ?

01:23:51 assbot: Fractal Design ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQlHk6 )

01:23:55 nubbins`: yep

01:23:56 nubbins`: rubber hdd groms

01:24:19 asciilifeform: has dampeners ?

01:24:42 asciilifeform: i really got the 'thermaltake' on account of the bottom-mount ps

01:24:44 nubbins`: nah, just spied the brand & blurted

01:24:47 kakobrekla: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-r4-black-pearl

01:24:49 assbot: Fractal Design ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQlLR1 )

01:24:53 asciilifeform: (hole, that is. bought ps elsewhere, fanless)

01:24:54 kakobrekla: pretty sure that one is mine

01:25:04 nubbins`: vertical mount hdd thing kinda sucks

01:25:06 kakobrekla: the fan that comes with it is useless though.

01:25:11 nubbins`: given that i don't have a turkey-sized gpu

01:25:31 asciilifeform: i would love to buy a case that is just 200kg of copper hedgehog.

01:25:45 asciilifeform: fuck fans.

01:25:48 nubbins`: copper bucket full of thermal paste

01:26:02 asciilifeform: nubbins`: see the immersion cooling thread, physics does not cooperate

01:26:09 asciilifeform: (unless the machine is DESIGNED for it from day 1.)

01:26:11 asciilifeform: like cray was.

01:26:40 *: nubbins` used to work at gov research institute in ottawa, massive cray in lunchroom behind glass doors

01:26:43 asciilifeform: immersion adds parasitic capacitance to pcb traces.

01:27:04 asciilifeform: nubbins`: surely not the immersive cray ?

01:27:04 nubbins`: yeah, as soon as i said, i figured that much muck wouldn't fly

01:27:05 asciilifeform: (cray-2)

01:27:08 nubbins`: asciilifeform nah

01:27:20 nubbins`: would recognize from a picture, but can't recall any details

01:27:26 asciilifeform: prolly one of the shams they made after cray died

01:27:28 nubbins`: only that obtaining time on it was highly coveted

01:27:29 asciilifeform: with intel cpus.

01:27:40 nubbins`: this woulda been early 2000s

01:27:47 kakobrekla: anyway, easy to cut power to hdd to see if that is the bugger

01:27:49 asciilifeform: then - crud, yes

01:27:50 nubbins`: long after glory

01:28:12 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: can't do this when it spins, will rape the raid

01:28:19 nubbins`: afaik cray never really recovered from getting chip supply choked early on

01:28:19 kakobrekla: i dont think i get much resonances

01:28:25 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it comes and goes.

01:28:38 asciilifeform: nubbins`: it did not recover from cray being dead.

01:28:42 asciilifeform: tends to be how it goes.

01:28:42 kakobrekla: but then again i spin fans at 200 rpm or less

01:28:56 pete_dushenski: ;;seen polarbeard

01:28:57 gribble: polarbeard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 2 hours, 47 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <polarbeard> cpp is full of it

01:29:01 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i suspect that it is the heatsinks

01:29:08 asciilifeform: they are loosely-coupled and vibrate.

01:29:16 asciilifeform: (2 cpu board.)

01:29:42 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: prolly he decided that we're a buncha nutters.

01:29:54 asciilifeform: after the 'regrind' thread.

01:29:55 pete_dushenski: this was news ?

01:30:01 nubbins`: ^

01:30:06 asciilifeform: news to ~him~

01:30:10 nubbins`: ...^

01:30:12 asciilifeform: that he'd have to write every patch N times.

01:30:15 kakobrekla: for heatsinks i use http://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d14 (ofc not with default fans)

01:30:17 assbot: NH-D14 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MartVs )

01:30:20 asciilifeform: fella couldn't take it.

01:30:27 pete_dushenski: this is why kids should read logs for 6 months before talking

01:30:36 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: this physically won't fit.

01:30:44 asciilifeform: (on my board)

01:30:47 asciilifeform: again, 2 cpu

01:30:47 kakobrekla: ah

01:30:51 kakobrekla: aha

01:31:05 kakobrekla: theres plenty of models

01:31:15 asciilifeform: no socket F tho.

01:31:19 nubbins`: sous-vide computing

01:31:27 pete_dushenski: heh

01:31:28 asciilifeform: it is interesting, i searched for MONTHS to find a new set of socket F hs, found NONE

01:31:35 asciilifeform: had to WASH my old ones.

01:31:35 pete_dushenski: 60c max

01:31:46 asciilifeform: ~decade of dirt.

01:31:59 asciilifeform: vacuuming and even air compressor, turns out, does not really clean the inside.

01:32:03 asciilifeform: it builds up.

01:32:27 kakobrekla: "Thermalright HR-01 X" ?

01:32:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00052461 = 2.6755 BTC [+] {2}

01:33:14 asciilifeform: where do you see AMD F in these ?

01:33:53 asciilifeform: i see AM2/AM3 and intel only.

01:34:08 asciilifeform: or, hm, there was adapter.

01:34:13 asciilifeform: sold out eons ago, looks like.

01:34:34 asciilifeform: but that this is actually very similar shape to what i had before.

01:34:45 asciilifeform: looks a tiny bit more cleanable.

01:35:01 kakobrekla: mebbe something liek http://imagehost.losias.net/images/U2y3F.jpg

01:35:04 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQn0iY )

01:35:07 asciilifeform: substantially top-heavy though

01:35:14 asciilifeform: will vibrate even moar than mine !

01:35:29 asciilifeform: heat sink should not be top-heavy!1111

01:35:48 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i have the dimms b/w the sockets, so this might not fly.

01:35:50 kakobrekla: and the world should not be round, yet ...

01:35:55 asciilifeform: l0l

01:36:17 asciilifeform: anyway these look quite like mine, but stood on end.

01:36:26 kakobrekla: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-6950-AMD-Opteron-Socket-F-CPU-Heatsink-Y9115-/251322845713

01:36:27 assbot: Dell Poweredge 6950 AMD Opteron Socket F CPU Heatsink Y9115 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQnaa8 )

01:36:27 kakobrekla: ?

01:36:37 kakobrekla: not top heavy but all heavy

01:36:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12544 @ 0.00052292 = 6.5595 BTC [-] {4}

01:36:43 asciilifeform: the dell hs need dell mobo holes!

01:36:49 asciilifeform: notice no bracket !111

01:36:54 kakobrekla: fuck do i know what you have

01:36:58 asciilifeform: tyan.

01:36:59 asciilifeform: forever.

01:37:07 kakobrekla: anyway this ends google-fu :)

01:37:12 asciilifeform: aha, extinct!

01:37:24 asciilifeform: reminds me, i gotta get a few moare of those same tyans

01:37:27 asciilifeform: for if this one ever melts.

01:37:44 asciilifeform: (if it blows a filter cap i can replace cap, dead northbridge - no)

01:37:48 kakobrekla: i believe i managed to acquire even more extintier things

01:38:05 asciilifeform: next set of hedgehogs , i expect to machine myself.

01:38:07 asciilifeform: from ingots.

01:38:12 asciilifeform: one day.

01:38:36 kakobrekla: however it took time and luck.

01:38:53 asciilifeform: new hs is not top priority atm for me.

01:38:59 asciilifeform: after all, old ones are clean now.

01:39:28 kakobrekla: i could get a custom adapter machined here if id be in such position prolly

01:40:02 asciilifeform: what i really want is just a 1m long heat pipe from each cpu

01:40:06 asciilifeform: to a 200kg copper hog.

01:40:19 asciilifeform: 'if wishes were horses..' (tm)

01:40:39 asciilifeform: pc oughta look like a mains transformer

01:40:42 asciilifeform: the kind on a pole.

01:41:00 asciilifeform: zalman co. made this for a brief spell a decade ago, it did not sell, cost $3k

01:41:25 asciilifeform: turns out there's ~no market for well-made quiet thing, whodavethunkit

01:42:17 asciilifeform: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/noiseless-computing,741.html << it.

01:42:18 assbot: Noiseless Computing: New Case Innovation From Zalman - Introduction ... ( http://bit.ly/1MasE7i )

01:42:23 kakobrekla: anyway its possible it just takes effort, like i had to buy 50 high end fans to find be-quiet

01:42:43 nubbins`: oddly, my current mobo has user-swappable op-amp for audio output

01:42:59 asciilifeform: nubbins`: i've even seen ones with tube amp !

01:43:04 asciilifeform: yes, on the mobo.

01:43:06 kakobrekla: nubbins` yet still garbage

01:43:14 nubbins`: lel.

01:43:22 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: as far as im concerned if it had ONE moving part, it is rubbish.

01:43:25 asciilifeform: i don't care where.

01:43:35 nubbins`: kakobrekla i'd imagine a proper op-amp from the start would be cheaper than adding the socket

01:43:50 asciilifeform: nubbins`: presumably it is for folks who habitually blow the amp

01:43:59 nubbins`: lel it is a "gaming" mobo, so...

01:44:07 nubbins`: target market is obv idiots

01:44:40 nubbins`: gold-plated audio connectors! electrically isolated audio section on board w/ LEDs demarcating! zzzzz

01:44:53 kakobrekla: all integrated sound cards are rubbish. ALL of them.

01:45:03 nubbins`: bought because cheap

01:45:11 nubbins`: don't even have speakers hooked up to it

01:45:14 nubbins`: just the piezo

01:45:18 nubbins`: !

01:45:30 kakobrekla: yes, mine is isolated too and yet it still pops when i tested it. (yes have a dedicated card for this)

01:45:46 nubbins`: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4968#ov

01:45:47 assbot: GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket 1150 - GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 (rev. 1.0) ... ( http://bit.ly/1MasYD9 )

01:46:35 kakobrekla: hooked to ~2 grand speakers - however this is not my main listening setup

01:46:58 nubbins`: we have an audiophile!

01:47:02 kakobrekla: audiofool!

01:47:11 *: nubbins` wonders if kako is vinyl collector or "other" type

01:47:41 kakobrekla: i have some records but not a collector

01:48:12 nubbins`: same, maybe buy a half dozen per year

01:48:23 kakobrekla: i havent bought any in years.

01:48:32 nubbins`: lots of newer pressings are pure shit

01:48:44 nubbins`: poor QC, not properly mastered for vinyl, etc

01:48:48 kakobrekla: i only have the old stuff

01:48:49 nubbins`: but it's just a cash cow now

01:48:58 kakobrekla: the new stuff is digitally recorded and then baked to vinyl

01:49:00 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> kakobrekla: as far as im concerned if it had ONE moving part, it is rubbish. << Aha, this goes to the power tool dilemma where unless paying out the ass everything is made by TTI in china and it is a competition between which TTI reseller do you trust most to preserve their battery platform. Not directly connected to this utterance of yours, but for some reason this is the one brian in the head clicked the thread t

01:49:00 BingoBoingo: ogether on.

01:49:01 *: pete_dushenski off to old theatre to watch monty python

01:49:09 nubbins`: old records are best, esp. if you have a spin-clean or similar

01:49:28 nubbins`: kakobrekla if you want to hear modern all-analog path, check out a record by Shellac of North America

01:49:56 kakobrekla: nubbins` i havent had a record player connected to my setup for years also

01:50:05 nubbins`: a

01:50:08 nubbins`: https://www.withfriendship.com/images/i/42145/Steve-Albini-picture.jpg

01:50:09 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQp3no )

01:51:13 nubbins`: ^ frontman of shellac, also engineer @ electrical audio, who famously bought an entire batch of reel2reel tape when mfg discontinued

01:51:20 nubbins`: "we'll have enough to last us until we're dead"

01:51:29 kakobrekla: nubbins` not my pic but i use this for streaming flacs (with external clock) http://img.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1057680-logitech-modwright-transporter-rare-all-black-finish.jpg

01:51:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQpcaq )

01:51:56 nubbins`: wild, like a hot rod

01:52:12 kakobrekla: this is the source of the setup.

01:53:02 *: nubbins` has been sucked back into analog synths recently

01:53:26 *: BingoBoingo very thankful in this moment he prefers AM radio for listening to as this avoids very expensive path to financial damnation.

01:54:28 nubbins`: https://www.arturia.com/products/hardware-synths/microbrute << newest member of family

01:54:30 assbot: Arturia - Overview ... ( http://bit.ly/1TQpC0c )

01:55:37 kakobrekla: anyway speakers are the most important part and dipole ribbons are where the music is at

01:57:11 nubbins`: hmm

01:58:18 kakobrekla: see here http://www.soulsonicspeakers.com/gallery.html

01:58:19 assbot: SoulSonic Speakers ... ( http://bit.ly/1MaufKv )

01:58:44 adlai: BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY6PAkLG2p4

01:58:45 assbot: Hot Rod (8/10) Movie CLIP - The King of AM Radio (2007) HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Maugy1 )

01:58:45 kakobrekla: mine were custom made by this guy, a friend of mine.

01:59:35 nubbins`: i'm using a roland keyboard amp in the music studio and crappy infinity speakers on the record player ;/

01:59:44 nubbins`: shocking

02:00:06 nubbins`: kakobrekla there's a guy i know makes speakers too, http://www.areaudio.com

02:00:09 assbot: Are Audio » Are Audio ... ( http://bit.ly/1Maund5 )

02:00:25 nubbins`: will get a pair one day!

02:01:03 kakobrekla: i cant listen to non-ribbon speakers any more

02:01:21 kakobrekla: utter garbage even if made from diamond

02:01:43 kakobrekla: (cant beat physics)

02:03:05 nubbins`: i should read about these ribbon speakers of yrs

02:03:17 kakobrekla: no, you should listen to them.

02:04:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13393 @ 0.00052311 = 7.006 BTC [+] {2}

02:04:11 nubbins`: !

02:06:09 kakobrekla: anyway, classical cone tweeters are problematic because of small surface and therefore large surface volume which makes ears bleed

02:06:47 kakobrekla: and there is no way around it but with large surface (and low mass)

02:06:59 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429801 << bwahahah.

02:06:59 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:13:16; asciilifeform: they might feed the ugly chix to koi

02:08:28 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429822 << by now you're prolly well advised to get a performance low freq microphone and inspect the item thoroughly

02:08:28 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:19:03; asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'Thermaltake Suppressor F-51'

02:08:52 mircea_popescu: (things are used widely in machining to find problems with mechanical movement prototypes)

02:10:23 nubbins`: ^ actually asciilifeform a simple piezo & some leads might provide some clues as to the source

02:11:31 nubbins`: could tape one to each component and still be out less than $10, even

02:11:45 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429862 << you know, all the "artist" metalworking chicks could prolly make you one to order.

02:11:45 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:25:31; asciilifeform: i would love to buy a case that is just 200kg of copper hedgehog.

02:12:18 mircea_popescu: "first of its kind game of thrones case ; 1/4 ton copper alloy, blades"

02:12:31 mircea_popescu: prolly make it so you can SIT on it, also.

02:12:50 mircea_popescu: kinda fun side project, this.

02:13:06 mircea_popescu: and yes, eminently crowdfundable.

02:13:29 mircea_popescu: give people pictures of you sitting on your casechair for $20 or w/e.

02:25:15 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429987 << my ~whole room~ is (yes) isolated. inverter.

02:25:15 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:45:30; kakobrekla: yes, mine is isolated too and yet it still pops when i tested it. (yes have a dedicated card for this)

02:25:54 kakobrekla: the pops come from other parts of the mobo cant isolate that

02:26:09 kakobrekla: stand alone card doesnt have such issues

02:26:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430012 << logical

02:26:21 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 01:51:20; nubbins`: "we'll have enough to last us until we're dead"

02:26:31 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: aha

02:26:52 kakobrekla: (this one http://www.guru3d.com/miraserver/images/2010/titanium-hd/leader.jpg )

02:26:53 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UjJxTI )

02:27:24 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430044 << i'ma laser interferometer at it eventually

02:27:24 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:08:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429822 << by now you're prolly well advised to get a performance low freq microphone and inspect the item thoroughly

02:27:50 asciilifeform: BUT i'd really much rathet be rid of all the moving partz!

02:27:57 mircea_popescu: i can't help but think i'm so blessed to not care about fan noise, loudspeakers, monitors et all.

02:28:13 kakobrekla: life is easy for blind and deaf

02:28:14 mircea_popescu: the last time i even used a headphone was months ago

02:28:18 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla totally.

02:28:38 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430049 << mno, hs tolerances are sub-mm

02:28:38 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:11:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429862 << you know, all the "artist" metalworking chicks could prolly make you one to order.

02:28:57 mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe it's my time looking at ega gfx and appreciating golden axe music on the 8 bit case speaker

02:29:12 asciilifeform: hey i had same

02:29:24 asciilifeform: prolly longer!

02:29:25 mircea_popescu: how sub mm ? pretty sure they can make 0.01ish.

02:29:37 mircea_popescu: this is how all those fancy interlocking metal slav collars get made.

02:29:48 asciilifeform: to me games ~still~ mean msdos.

02:30:03 mircea_popescu: sukatora sassa!

02:30:09 mircea_popescu: now i wanna listen to it lmao

02:30:16 asciilifeform: ahahahaha

02:30:41 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSEk8kZAu0 totally, check this shit out!

02:30:42 assbot: Sutakora, Sassa! - Golden Axe Music Extended - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1UjJSWx )

02:30:49 mircea_popescu: and i thought it must be some sort of famous tune or w/e ? turns out, no ?

02:31:11 asciilifeform: afaik only in goldenaxe.

02:31:21 mircea_popescu: the things one remembers.

02:31:23 asciilifeform: 'Adlib' ftw

02:32:16 mircea_popescu: Pedalavo come se fuggissi, e in realta fuggivo, da lei, da quelle emozioni, da i sogni, da i ricordi, da tutto. E pensavo che dovevo dimenticare. Ero certo che sarei riuscito a dimenticare. Ma oggi che sono vecchio, che ho consumato banalmente la vita, talch? ho conosciuto tante donne che m'hanno detto "ricordati di me" e io le ho scordate tutte, ancora oggi lei, l'unica che non ho mai dimenticato... Sutakora Sassa!

02:32:31 asciilifeform: goldenaxe2 ruled.

02:36:48 kakobrekla: yes, i made friends because of it.

02:46:51 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430052 cray sofa!!

02:46:51 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 02:12:31; mircea_popescu: prolly make it so you can SIT on it, also.

02:47:14 asciilifeform: was a thing, he put the monster power supply there

02:47:25 mircea_popescu: aha

02:47:26 asciilifeform: around the 'horseshoe'

02:48:05 kakobrekla: btw re liquid cooled para capacitance, modern computer gear seem to work in oil immersion setups without any special design

02:48:06 asciilifeform: cray was a titan.

02:48:11 mircea_popescu: sorta like the heated water bed. all you wanna do is fuck all the blustery winter day.

02:48:28 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: electrolytic caps swell.

02:48:32 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i remember me saying that and alf being all alf all over it!

02:48:49 asciilifeform: they do tho

02:49:01 kakobrekla: i recall one such setup being operable for years

02:49:02 mircea_popescu: hard to argue with practice yo!

02:49:11 asciilifeform: where?

02:49:18 asciilifeform: and in which liquid

02:49:20 mircea_popescu: crazy gamers everywhere.

02:49:39 *: asciilifeform genuinely curious

02:50:06 mircea_popescu: i never gave that much of a shit, myself

02:50:10 asciilifeform: and 'operable' for gamer means typically slightly diff thing than for me

02:50:35 asciilifeform: (years of 24/7 with no bitrot)

02:51:31 kakobrekla: i recall it was office pc that worked years after installed and no i dont have the link written down anywhere

02:51:54 asciilifeform: what did he do with the disks?

02:52:15 kakobrekla: dont recall

02:52:18 asciilifeform: and how about the ports

02:52:30 asciilifeform: cables glued in?

02:52:41 kakobrekla: why would you glue them

02:52:55 asciilifeform: because sealed oil tank??

02:53:10 kakobrekla: ah i thought glued in sockets

02:53:30 asciilifeform: or, what, ick, open to air, spillable idiocy?

02:54:00 kakobrekla: dont change the argument this has nothing to do with capacitance !

02:54:13 asciilifeform: i wonder if he filled with siloxane

02:54:42 kakobrekla: anyway i see you want all the upside with no downside

02:54:52 asciilifeform: hell yes.

02:55:14 asciilifeform: thats what i ~do~.

02:55:23 kakobrekla: hence very little solutions.

02:55:33 asciilifeform: aha.

02:55:45 asciilifeform: but when solved - solved.

02:56:02 asciilifeform: it's a thing...

02:56:05 kakobrekla: more if than when.

02:56:17 asciilifeform: unfortunately.

02:56:36 asciilifeform: ars longa .. (tm)

02:57:21 asciilifeform: for half-solutions, call up yer local halfsolutionmart! it will provide!

02:58:27 kakobrekla: sometimes 95% solution will be better than no solution at all

03:01:38 asciilifeform: call 95%mart!111 it liveth to serve!

03:02:32 kakobrekla: yes i found be-quiet there

03:04:46 *: kakobrekla curious if asciilifeform ever makes a compromise for the sake of his pet

03:08:13 nubbins`: now to have a witbier in bed. nite

03:09:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00052462 = 4.8265 BTC [+]

03:10:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0005248 = 6.6125 BTC [+]

03:10:31 punkman: /me found a dusty, 20 year old bottle of Canadian Club yesterday

03:11:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7340 @ 0.00052549 = 3.8571 BTC [+] {3}

03:11:52 kakobrekla: does it still work?

03:12:08 punkman: I will find out now

03:15:41 punkman: hmm not bad. I should find a newer bottle to compare it with.

03:17:13 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4I9iBZNUu4

03:17:14 assbot: Soul MaKossa - Manu Dibango - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIAwkR )

03:18:25 *: kakobrekla actually has that album in his collection

03:18:34 punkman: on vinyl?

03:18:40 kakobrekla: neg

03:19:25 kakobrekla: a flac.

03:20:50 punkman: I have a small stash of 60-70s vinyl, but turntable has been out of order for a decade+

03:21:10 punkman: 128kbps is good enough for me anyway

03:23:48 kakobrekla: you know how it is, once you go black you can never go back

03:25:36 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430137 << getting out of bed every day is a fucking compromise for me.

03:25:36 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 03:04:46; *: kakobrekla curious if asciilifeform ever makes a compromise for the sake of his pet

03:26:00 phf: mircea_popescu: i wonder what happened to him. << i spent some time outside

03:26:27 asciilifeform: phf: good habit.

03:26:29 phf: ^- for reference http://glyf.org/tmp/outside.jpg

03:26:31 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIBpda )

03:27:37 kakobrekla: asciilifeform gotta take a leak at some point

03:27:49 kakobrekla: i dont prefer doing it horizontally

03:27:58 asciilifeform: l0l

03:28:34 phf: ben_vulpes: i spent few hours in your city, long enough to collect loot from Powell's Books

03:29:00 asciilifeform: * mircea_popescu has quit (Disconnected by services) << wat?!

03:29:06 mircea_popescu: damned fleanode

03:29:21 mircea_popescu: incidentally, i just talked to assboy

03:29:26 mircea_popescu: apparently it doesn't know what !v is

03:30:06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu connected to the ftmeade fleanode or what.

03:30:12 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's what it says when i ask nickserv to ghost my name.

03:30:29 mircea_popescu: which i gotta do if i'm reconnecting before being officially disconnected.

03:33:00 mircea_popescu: phf hey, looks just like where i'm from.

03:33:03 mircea_popescu: what is this, cascadia ?

03:33:42 phf: yeah, same, it's like being home. birch, evergreen, moss

03:34:04 asciilifeform: neato

03:34:11 asciilifeform: (precious little of this here in the swamps)

03:34:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00052669 = 1.8961 BTC [+] {4}

03:34:46 *: kakobrekla lives in jungle by b-a standards

03:35:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00052311 = 2.9556 BTC [-]

03:36:10 mircea_popescu: https://cluj-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/assets/pekus-statiunea-baisoara.jpg << the fashionable place for losing one's virginity at the time.

03:36:11 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U5ZBtB )

03:44:57 kakobrekla: my house is approx visible here http://i.imgur.com/2qJEaL5.jpg

03:44:58 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U606nr )

03:45:13 *: asciilifeform fires up ac

03:45:28 asciilifeform: without which summer here would not be habitable.

03:45:50 mircea_popescu: still pine

03:45:52 asciilifeform: spring is ~1 week long in the swamp.

03:46:04 asciilifeform: after that - hot sticky mess

03:46:09 asciilifeform: green hell

03:46:23 asciilifeform: like venus prison planet in old sf stories.

03:47:32 phf: asciilifeform: was dreading coming back to dc, it didn't disappoint. it's already getting clammy

03:47:55 phf: meanwhile, in cascadian forest http://glyf.org/tmp/green-outside.jpg

03:47:58 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIDjKC )

03:48:16 asciilifeform: mm

03:48:17 mircea_popescu: so why aren't you two moving to seattle or w/e

03:48:22 phf: or http://glyf.org/tmp/bridge-outside.jpg the whole place is out of slavik fairytales

03:48:24 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QIDmq3 )

03:48:30 kakobrekla: its not 100% solution !!!1111

03:48:34 mircea_popescu: oh sorry.

03:48:38 asciilifeform: i can't speak for phf

03:49:41 mircea_popescu: yeah srsly phf looks just about right. i guess once i'm out on parole ima go live with ben_vulpes in his guest bedroom.

03:49:57 asciilifeform: but swamp is one of the two kolymas where they have asciilifeforms toil to mine uranium for the 5yearplan

03:50:24 mircea_popescu: what's the other one, the everglades ?

03:50:28 asciilifeform: (the other being the godforsaken 10,000usd broomcloset flat bay area)

03:51:16 asciilifeform: sf bay

03:51:46 mircea_popescu: and in other news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Jw_v3F_Q0

03:51:47 assbot: The Kingston Trio - M.T.A. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U60qT6 )

03:51:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7211 @ 0.00052309 = 3.772 BTC [-] {3}

03:52:18 asciilifeform: famous!

03:52:26 asciilifeform: i learned it from pet.

03:53:26 mircea_popescu: how about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0TtIRpG-jE ?

03:53:27 assbot: Everglades - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U60wdx )

03:54:51 mircea_popescu: " Where a man can hide and never be found and have no fear of the bayin' hounds. But he better keep movin' and don't stand still. If the 'skeeters don't get then the 'gaters will"

03:55:37 asciilifeform: sounds right.

03:58:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00052284 = 4.8886 BTC [-] {2}

03:58:17 phf: i don't actually have any reason to stay in dc long term, maybe another few months to a year

03:59:33 phf: but unlike ascii i don't have any aversion to shit jobs as long as they pay max and take up min time

04:03:25 phf: i think "full stack" "web" etc. jobs are primarily shit not because you have to hack javascript or manage imbeciles, but because they have notoriously shit pay-time ratios. 9-5-5 for 140k and 1 week vacation? better fucking shoot me

04:04:25 mircea_popescu: you know barrista makes 35k or so.

04:05:32 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 140000 * .45 / 8 / 5 / 51

04:05:32 gribble: 30.8823529412

04:05:42 mircea_popescu: about half what a whore makes, if she's serious about it.

04:06:21 asciilifeform: i thought a good whore can make MAXINT !?

04:06:31 mircea_popescu: how did you think that ?

04:07:26 asciilifeform: the ads in volkischer beobachter ?

04:07:35 mircea_popescu: lol ok.

04:07:42 asciilifeform: few hundy / hr

04:08:13 mircea_popescu: it's mostly opportunity cost. she spends her time with you, she can't be at the blackjack table smooching.

04:09:44 asciilifeform: whatever it is, it beats my profession.

04:10:19 asciilifeform: no whore ever punched a motherfucking clock

04:10:28 asciilifeform: or sat in an office.

04:11:08 asciilifeform: or 'boss screen'-d.

04:12:35 BingoBoingo: I dunno, they might have to actually punch clock at the regulated Nevada brothels

04:12:48 *: asciilifeform has nfi

04:13:08 asciilifeform: i've never set foot there and dont expect to

04:13:09 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> no whore ever punched a motherfucking clock << you're kidding, right ?

04:13:14 mircea_popescu: 4 an hour, baby.

04:13:27 asciilifeform: waiwut?!

04:13:38 mircea_popescu: most whores alive today, as wel las historically, do punch clock, and also live in a fucking office.

04:13:49 mircea_popescu: it's a large dark damp room, with sheet separated beds.

04:14:02 asciilifeform: client punches clock!

04:14:08 asciilifeform: this is different!

04:14:14 asciilifeform: like lawyer.

04:14:36 mircea_popescu: i think youy maybe haven't seen so many whores at work.

04:14:47 asciilifeform: mebbe not

04:15:04 asciilifeform: i guess the sheet whores are similar to the wwwstack programmers

04:15:21 asciilifeform: many of'em but no nyoozpaper ad

04:16:12 mircea_popescu: take a vacation, go to say costa rica, check out how the girls live.

04:17:12 *: asciilifeform recalls mircea_popescu article on same

04:18:11 asciilifeform: wish i had such a thing as vacation.

04:28:36 deedbot-: [Qntra] F-35 Software Requiring Hard Reboots While Airborne - http://qntra.net/2016/03/f-35-software-requiring-hard-reboots-while-airborne/

04:29:19 *: BingoBoingo suspects alf may have problem mod6 wrestled with last month, may actually despite protest require time away from keyboard and instead eating delicious beef in southern hemisphere.

04:29:55 asciilifeform: would go right now if could.

04:30:19 asciilifeform: and not come back, if could.

04:31:04 asciilifeform: this hell is not for people

04:31:31 asciilifeform: should be left to mice, fleas, bureaucrats.

04:32:14 BingoBoingo: Honestly I though the swampy aspects of here were bad, but your descriptions of the swamp make me thankful for my present climate

04:32:30 mircea_popescu: ;;google argentina weather

04:32:31 gribble: Buenos Aires , Argentina - The Weather Channel - Weather.com: http://www.weather.com/weather/today/l/Buenos+Aires+Argentina+ARBA0009:1:AR; Climate of Argentina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Argentina; Weather in Argentina - Lonely Planet: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/argentina/weather

04:33:01 BingoBoingo: AC is not one yet, though I did spread a bunch of BTi this afternoon to get a head start on mosquito control due to the mild winter.

04:33:08 asciilifeform: i have ~24 yrs of stoked hatred for the fuckngswamp

04:33:35 mircea_popescu: wait, you lived there whole lyf ?!

04:33:39 BingoBoingo: get a reciprocating saw and take that hatred out on nature. It will make you feel better

04:33:51 asciilifeform: what nature.

04:34:02 asciilifeform: scarcely anything to saw here.

04:34:14 asciilifeform: shrubs, sickly things.

04:34:26 asciilifeform: soil is red clay.

04:34:30 BingoBoingo: That just means saw feels even more powerful

04:34:58 asciilifeform: i nearly destroyed the chainsaw last time

04:35:03 BingoBoingo: yellow/orange clay here grows giant plants just fine

04:35:11 asciilifeform: it did not like the shrubs.

04:35:42 BingoBoingo: See, this is not a chainsaw job, too much power... it gets confused and tears at self.

04:35:43 cazalla: arvo'

04:35:51 BingoBoingo: arvo' to you too

04:36:08 cazalla: looks more like a shrub BingoBoingo

04:36:47 cazalla: chainsaw wouldn't be sporting though so all good

04:36:59 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You just need cheapest 18 volt reciprocating saw made by TTi and branded with whatever battery system pisses you off least + 5 tpi blade. Instant stress relief.

04:37:53 asciilifeform: not much to saw, again

04:38:15 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Well, didn't have much time

04:38:22 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But the shrubs!?

04:38:24 asciilifeform: and mosquitoes eat you alive.

04:38:43 cazalla: how about a hand axe? got that wrist strength, was an ezmode job for the few trees around here i axed down

04:39:08 BingoBoingo: BTi werkz for mosquitoes. Not the adults, but generally can be guerilla applied sufficient radius to protect own yard.

04:39:30 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Neighbor's fence on one side. My shed on the other. No room to swing.

04:39:31 asciilifeform: i'd actually rather have moar treez

04:39:36 asciilifeform: than less

04:39:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00052491 = 6.7713 BTC [+] {2}

04:41:24 cazalla: well chopping one down doesn't preclude you from planting a few more

04:41:48 BingoBoingo: Also real trees love hard clay soil

04:41:51 cazalla: that's what i did here.. pissed the non-fruit bearing trees here off, replace with fruit-bearing

04:42:16 asciilifeform: i know a fella who does this

04:42:26 asciilifeform: lives in westvrginia.

04:42:41 asciilifeform: b00lcrap are you alive?

04:42:57 BingoBoingo: aha, him!

04:43:02 asciilifeform: ;;later tell b00lcrap come back to us.

04:43:02 gribble: The operation succeeded.

04:43:55 asciilifeform: old friend

04:45:11 asciilifeform: he has trouble getting a reliable net socket.

04:45:35 asciilifeform: tcp over old slave banjo.

04:45:41 asciilifeform: or the like.

04:47:15 kakobrekla: mega map http://g03.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1PtI6GVXXXXbpXXXXq6xXFXXXf/222422998/HTB1PtI6GVXXXXbpXXXXq6xXFXXXf.jpg

04:47:16 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QLptZi )

04:47:30 cazalla: BingoBoingo, got much going on in the garden this spring of yours?

04:48:06 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: l0l wats this, led lamps?

04:48:24 BingoBoingo: cazalla: So far jsut tidying up tree litter out front and clearing feral corner of the back which is pretty much done

04:48:32 kakobrekla: science and technology!

04:51:29 BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdPQmwqVIAA3xV1.jpg

04:51:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1nBFKnN )

04:52:55 kakobrekla: unrelatedly, just ordered 9690sa-8l as per ascii, had to do it from the states because it appears to be a rare thing in europe with price factor of ~5

04:53:02 BingoBoingo: cazalla: What about yout garden this fall?

04:53:51 cazalla: got a second batch of cucumbers in, and put some broccoli, cabbage and cauliflower in last week, snow peas go in next month

04:53:59 BingoBoingo: sweet

04:54:21 cazalla: and enough pickled tomatoes from the summer to last until next spring

04:54:43 BingoBoingo: We had a very mild winter so no die back on the rosebushes and the spring bulb have had leaves up testing the weather since late december

04:55:53 cazalla: down under summer was cooler than usually, at least it felt that way, no 3-4 day heat waves anyway so garden did well

04:57:03 cazalla: re: trump image.. you know that's all they're talking about here in the oz media, trump this, trump that, you'd think he was running for PM of aus

04:57:09 cazalla: (which in a round about way, probably is ha)

04:59:57 kakobrekla: >According to the Transmission website version 2.90 was infected with malware.

05:00:15 kakobrekla: sorta old (4 days)

05:00:18 *: BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket

05:00:45 BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> sorta old (4 days) << <kakobrekla> sorta old (4 days)

05:00:54 BingoBoingo: ^http://qntra.net/2016/03/ransomware-comes-to-osx-bittorrent-client/

05:00:56 BingoBoingo: sorry

05:01:05 kakobrekla: ah

05:01:11 kakobrekla: my bad.

05:01:19 BingoBoingo: it happens

05:20:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12018 @ 0.00052503 = 6.3098 BTC [+] {3}

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06:10:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9868 @ 0.0005228 = 5.159 BTC [-] {3}

06:11:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2513 @ 0.00052266 = 1.3134 BTC [-]

06:34:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00052686 = 4.2149 BTC [+]

07:09:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00052317 = 2.3804 BTC [-]

07:27:40 ben_vulpes: phf: whatsat, forest park?

07:28:09 ben_vulpes: also dood wtf you stop in the city, swing through powells, and can't go 2 mi out of the way to get your eyes on my fp and mine on yours?

07:29:56 ben_vulpes: woulda taken all of ten minutes to swing through the office and you'd have left with at least three bottles of literally unprocureable elsewhere dundee wines

07:30:57 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 10.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Donald Trump will win the 2016 United States Presidential Election - http://bitbet.us/bet/1250/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b35

07:34:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052266 = 2.8746 BTC [-] {2}

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07:57:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00052621 = 4.6043 BTC [+] {5}

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08:57:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00052271 = 2.0124 BTC [+] {4}

10:04:24 shinohai: ;;ticker --market all

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10:43:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19885 @ 0.00052384 = 10.4166 BTC [+] {4}

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11:04:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00052756 = 5.3811 BTC [+] {3}

12:07:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31050 @ 0.00052795 = 16.3928 BTC [+] {7}

12:11:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00052266 = 1.6464 BTC [-]

12:15:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7884 @ 0.00052266 = 4.1207 BTC [-]

12:23:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00052961 = 1.7742 BTC [+] {2}

12:32:08 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/U2jiFxh.jpg <<< lel

12:32:09 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QMeOxA )

13:00:28 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430316 << they're doing the same in argentina, all the bored she-derps in the press and media generally feel ever so threatened by him.

13:00:28 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 04:57:03; cazalla: re: trump image.. you know that's all they're talking about here in the oz media, trump this, trump that, you'd think he was running for PM of aus

13:00:49 mircea_popescu: they had bought into the ustard liberal nonsense, how is this possibru! church of clinton&hussein, best in world!

13:00:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00052266 = 3.0837 BTC [-] {2}

13:01:02 mircea_popescu: #nounamenos!11

13:02:16 mircea_popescu: oh oops, i think it's spelled #quantanamena or something.

13:03:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23826 @ 0.00052228 = 12.4438 BTC [-] {4}

13:04:01 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430320 << nah, he's winning on third party and buries gop 4evar.

13:04:01 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 05:00:18; *: BingoBoingo strongly suspects the outcome is going to be a brokered convention with Trump continuing his run and losing on a third party or independent ticket

13:04:11 mircea_popescu: best lulz outcome.

13:04:43 mircea_popescu: if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters.

13:05:46 mircea_popescu: ;;ud fp

13:05:48 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FP&defid=1022662 | FP. F.P. or Fag Potential is a person whos sexuality is doubtfull; somone who can be straight but in his actions/clothing/talking/mannerisms can act gay. Gaylord: ...

13:05:53 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ?

13:09:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.000522 = 5.5593 BTC [-] {4}

13:09:14 mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

13:09:17 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 )

13:10:52 PeterL: hey, some of my work got cited in the WSJ: http://archive.is/BUGGs

13:10:54 assbot: Laundry Detergent From Jessica Alba’s Honest Co. Contains Ingredient It Pledged to Avoid - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQwMp )

13:10:54 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369 <<< it's surprisingly easy to get these from any docs office on unsecured lan xD

13:10:54 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

13:11:59 mircea_popescu: ajhaha nice PeterL

13:12:09 mircea_popescu: care to make a brief qntra ? it's lulzy enough i think

13:12:12 shinohai: #fail (-_-\)

13:12:45 PeterL: Sure, I could put something together

13:13:38 PeterL: can I add more quotes from me, they only quoted my coworker in the article?

13:13:42 mircea_popescu: which is you, impact analyutical ?

13:13:46 PeterL: yep

13:13:48 mircea_popescu: you can add whatever you want, your article.

13:13:53 PeterL: aha

13:14:21 mircea_popescu: personal authority, it's a thing. you were there, you saw it, as long as you're willing to swear to it, that'\s what it is.

13:14:29 mircea_popescu: who dun like it can swear to something else.

13:15:52 shinohai: worked for the parents who swore maple syrup trumps science.

13:16:07 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430262 << i was moved to this chimp reservation as 9yo, this was in old thread, aha

13:16:07 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 04:33:35; mircea_popescu: wait, you lived there whole lyf ?!

13:16:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is unsanitary. "live in most of the world" is CERTAINLY a step in making mps.

13:17:01 asciilifeform: got net pipe soon after, grew up malignantly asocial

13:17:19 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that would need MONEY

13:17:51 mircea_popescu: this may be a crippling impediment in children, but it is not in adults. i had a girl like that, she was ordered to pick up girls in the street every day. and she did. and it went away.

13:18:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform money, my dear alf, is by and large a crutch. if you need money to make friends the problem's not the money.

13:18:19 asciilifeform: anyway i'm certainly no mircea_popescu , just a half-man chimeric dr mengele creation.

13:18:59 asciilifeform: gurlz are programmable.

13:19:50 mircea_popescu: and what, your own head is bad chinese fpga and you misplaced teh keys ?

13:20:33 asciilifeform: antifuse.

13:20:40 mircea_popescu: you know, it's funny

13:20:45 mircea_popescu: that's what the gurlz think, also.

13:22:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5326 @ 0.00052495 = 2.7959 BTC [+] {3}

13:23:42 asciilifeform: nobody rechips male nobodies under microscope, harem is an asymmetrical thing

13:23:59 asciilifeform: if your ballz are still attached - yer on your own.

13:24:11 asciilifeform: fwiw.

13:25:23 mircea_popescu: there is that.

13:26:24 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is an upside to the 24years of kolyma. i dun think anyone alive hates this place, as ~accurately~ and deeply as i do.

13:26:58 asciilifeform: i hate every speck of dust on every pavement tile.

13:27:19 mircea_popescu: lol so what, gonna move into poetry ?

13:28:02 asciilifeform: just to point out.

13:29:39 asciilifeform: !s http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

13:29:40 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhQkg6 )

13:29:41 assbot: 0 results for 'http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

13:29:56 asciilifeform: wat?!

13:30:02 asciilifeform: 2 just today

13:30:22 asciilifeform: but i was quite certain we had it before, in december maybe

13:30:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9963 @ 0.00052405 = 5.2211 BTC [-] {2}

13:31:26 asciilifeform: i still have nfi how #b-a search actually worx, it certainly is not grep-compat.

13:32:00 mircea_popescu: uh

13:32:05 mircea_popescu: wut ?

13:34:15 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430369

13:34:15 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 13:09:14; mircea_popescu: and in other news, the butt mark! http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbafqkYUis1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg

13:34:51 mircea_popescu: hm was before ?

13:35:09 asciilifeform: i thought so.

13:35:28 mircea_popescu: hm... i just grepped log ? nope ?

13:35:40 mircea_popescu: are you confusing ukr blondy for another ukr blondy perhaps ?

13:36:44 mircea_popescu: or maybe different teeny slut wore the same buttstring to teh beach.

13:37:20 asciilifeform: with anatomy school backdrop

13:37:28 asciilifeform: definitely had that before

13:38:05 mircea_popescu: ah, that yes.

13:38:16 mircea_popescu: same studio, wadda ya want, new scenography ?

13:38:28 mircea_popescu: new coat of wallpaint costs 10x more than new girls.

13:39:00 asciilifeform: l0l

13:39:16 mircea_popescu: and EVEN SO human reproduction is overly expensive

13:39:19 mircea_popescu: in biologic terms.

13:40:12 asciilifeform: even more expensive if you reintroduce QA as per yesterday thread !111

13:40:34 mircea_popescu: aha.

13:41:11 asciilifeform: '...for your convenience we have packaged the defective 8% of transistors you asked for, separately!' (tm) (r)

13:41:29 mircea_popescu: depends to. the problem here is that high value males are interested in owning females, not interested in producing litter. consequently, western world has fertility crisis.

13:41:49 mircea_popescu: if society were actually sane, i'd prolly reproduce, so the cost issue is iffy.

13:42:31 asciilifeform: ~nobody cares to breed muppets for hitler's army.

13:42:43 mircea_popescu: quite.

13:43:14 mircea_popescu: even without shoehorning "hitler" in here, the only sane way reproduction works is that i have life and death power over any offspring until they go on their own.

13:43:31 asciilifeform: aha!

13:43:53 mircea_popescu: then the female drive to reproduce is finally balanced, and i frankly wouldn't care if they want or don't want to get pregnant, make your own choices.

13:43:55 asciilifeform: recall the thread we had when i was at c3.

13:44:02 mircea_popescu: vaguely, which ?

13:46:47 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-04-2015#1106799

13:46:47 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 03:59:18; ascii_lander: i would like the ability to shoot them, for example, at any age

13:47:21 mircea_popescu: possibly shooting no good. you wanna kill it, you gotta strangle it. stab it. something.

13:47:25 mircea_popescu: shooting's too clean.

13:47:46 asciilifeform: drown. traditinal!

13:48:03 asciilifeform: !s dumplings

13:48:04 assbot: 20 results for 'dumplings' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dumplings

13:48:10 mircea_popescu: i guess.

13:48:38 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509010

13:48:38 assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'

13:51:01 asciilifeform: as it is i'd rather eat nagant.

13:52:51 asciilifeform: for offspring you need sane world + economic surplus (at least at the not-being-in-labour-camp level)

13:53:02 mircea_popescu: demographically it's rather lulzy, tho. take europe : it went through three to twelve generations of this negative selection, 0 reproduction from higher value individuals, depending how you count the generations. and, woe of woes : BEFORE, the better tatars came raiding, and raped. so it fixed things, for a century or two.

13:53:12 asciilifeform: or, alternatively, being stray dog who doesnt giveafuq

13:53:13 mircea_popescu: but now, the higher value arabs are ALSO sitting home with the bitches, and sending the runts over.

13:53:23 mircea_popescu: there is ~no way europe doesn't turn into africa.

13:54:21 mircea_popescu: it's like, "take the lowest quartile of this population, let it reproduce with the lower quartile of that population, see what you get"

13:54:25 mircea_popescu: i dunno, flying mice ?

13:54:44 asciilifeform: subsahara aha

13:54:56 asciilifeform: coming soon to an africa near you.

13:56:00 mircea_popescu: that's the thing various derps dun wanna say. sure, numerically, 500mn europe, what does it care about 5mn immigrants.

13:56:24 asciilifeform: 5mn snackbat cox tho

13:56:29 asciilifeform: snackbar

13:56:52 mircea_popescu: well, it cares, because that 500mn europe has a 1.x children per woman, and 90% of them are made with idiots, and the 5mn are... also idiots. once you start looking at the actual demographic breakdown, it couldn't really take 50k of the derps.

13:57:16 asciilifeform: incidentally i wonder if tatar rape therapy even works any moar - many (most?) of the prospective 'patients' take steroidal bc pill...

13:57:31 mircea_popescu: wouldn't work, no.

13:57:40 asciilifeform: so then.

13:57:55 mircea_popescu: what, you were under the impression i was proposing solutions ?

13:58:21 mircea_popescu: i'm just explaining why i'd rather kandahar than holland is all.

13:59:06 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-11-2015#1324872 << thread

13:59:06 assbot: Logged on 15-11-2015 16:37:59; mircea_popescu: and em-poor-en.

13:59:26 asciilifeform: nah they do solutions in the solution house.

13:59:38 asciilifeform: on mars.

13:59:55 asciilifeform: here on earth we do: problemz

13:59:55 mircea_popescu: 2015 europe had 5mn live births. selected for suckage. add 5mn from outside, idem selected, suddenly it looks like it is.

14:00:19 *: asciilifeform bbl, mounting stake

14:00:35 mircea_popescu: and mind you, the idiocy is quite infectious. they way they state it is that "eu-28 showed signs of increasing fertility but the trend reversed".

14:00:46 mircea_popescu: irl, "romania, poland et all didn't have the problem - until they joined eu".

14:01:14 mircea_popescu: because yes, romania poland et all did have a sort-of, "i made you an' ima kill you, now go learn that fucking multiplication table". again, until "aquis"

14:01:28 mircea_popescu: they say it in latin, too, as if that makes eau d'idiot something valuable now.

14:01:48 mircea_popescu: the "aquis", the codified idiocy we've slowly coallesced into gallows.

14:02:39 mircea_popescu: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/11414064/How-Europe-is-slowly-dying-despite-an-increasing-world-population.html << great map there. who doesn't have the problem ? oh, the uk, because

14:02:40 assbot: How Europe is slowly dying despite an increasing world population - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWxI4q )

14:02:43 mircea_popescu: !s rotherham

14:02:44 assbot: 15 results for 'rotherham' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rotherham

14:02:58 mircea_popescu: and france. because hey, same deal, no press.

14:09:06 mircea_popescu: i thought i had written up irreversible, but apparently not ? anyway, http://hollywoodabuse.com/monica-belluccis-anal-rape-scene/

14:09:07 assbot: Monica Bellucci’s anal rape scene ... ( http://bit.ly/1XhYXXW )

14:10:01 mircea_popescu: that poor woman, she's done no film without a rape scene in it. if there ever was an actor that actually answered to the higher call of the profession, it's probably her. and yet people will readily ignore the point and focus on anything and everything, "hey, random stupid broad with nothing to say wants us to buy detergent!"

14:11:39 nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430155 << i used to be this way too

14:11:39 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 03:25:36; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430137 << getting out of bed every day is a fucking compromise for me.

14:12:45 nubbins`: i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day

14:17:30 PeterL: BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/46717797-1efb-4cde-bd4c-a6674a46e32a/?raw=true

14:17:32 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWzfaS )

14:39:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00052545 = 3.8358 BTC [+]

14:41:04 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430365 << mega-l0l!!!

14:41:04 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 13:05:46; mircea_popescu: ;;ud fp

14:41:24 danielpbarron: i assume he meant fingerprint, as in the gpg variety

14:43:51 mircea_popescu: hehe

14:51:27 PeterL: mircea_popescu re:map of birthrates, any explanation for why thailand is so low? the other low places are japan and europe, which have been developed for a while, thailand seems an outlier

14:53:10 mircea_popescu: i'm entirely unsure. ladyboys ?

14:54:06 mircea_popescu: thailand is a pretty interesting case - back in the 90s it seemed very well positioned to become a tech superpower. then... fizzled, somehow. korea won.

14:55:04 PeterL: could also just be where they put the cutoff for the colors, thailand barely makes the bottom category, US and canada are barely into the next color

14:55:06 thestringpuller: eventually birthrate -> 0 and we have children of men?

15:03:56 mircea_popescu: PeterL aha.

15:04:22 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no, eventually birthrate -> .5 and we forgot this particular hittite empire ever existed, just like all the other ones.

15:04:33 mircea_popescu: not like it made anything that'd be remembered once it stops paying for the service.

15:10:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00052652 = 3.3434 BTC [+] {2}

15:21:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00052663 = 4.9335 BTC [+] {2}

15:56:24 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430497 << stopped how ?

15:56:24 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 14:12:45; nubbins`: i assumed this was "normal" until it just stopped happening one day

15:58:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.0005291 = 1.0582 BTC [+]

16:17:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00052852 = 2.3519 BTC [-] {2}

16:18:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4497 @ 0.00052736 = 2.3715 BTC [-] {2}

16:20:07 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump will win the 2016 United States Presidential Election - http://bitbet.us/bet/1250/donald-trump-will-win-the-2016-united-states/#b39

16:35:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00052705 = 2.9251 BTC [-]

16:44:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052605 = 2.1568 BTC [-] {2}

17:20:23 kakobrekla: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/40505.html

17:20:24 assbot: mjg59 | I stayed in a hotel with Android lightswitches and it was just as bad as you'd imagine ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWTgxS )

17:22:18 shinohai: why does lightswitch need to know whoami ?

17:25:48 PeterL: shinohai so they can display personalized ads all around you

17:26:03 thestringpuller: haha!

17:28:49 shinohai: adblock for lightswitches and toasters.

17:32:25 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5%

17:42:52 shinohai: https://twitter.com/Bitstamp/status/708289009873784832

17:44:06 PeterL: In Mich if you are on a primary ballot, you cannot be listed as an independent or other party for the general, I had to write in Gary Johnson in 2012

17:52:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00053028 = 4.2953 BTC [+] {2}

18:01:07 trinque: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/10/apple-fbi-could-force-us-to-turn-on-iphone-cameras-microphones << check out Apple dropping hints

18:01:09 assbot: FBI could force us to turn on iPhone cameras and microphones, says Apple | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1pkIQyn )

18:01:16 trinque: could my ass

18:01:48 asciilifeform: 'nsa could force us to capture packets' -- at&t

18:01:59 trinque: so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP

18:02:08 asciilifeform: 'farmer could force us to live in own shit' -- pigs

18:02:24 asciilifeform: 'shit could force us to eat it' -- fly

18:02:31 trinque: lol

18:02:53 PeterL: asciilifeform re:quiet computer, have you considered having big computer in basement, using a chrombox-like thing as a silent terminal?

18:03:39 asciilifeform: PeterL: i have no basement.

18:03:51 PeterL: well, closet far from chair?

18:03:53 asciilifeform: or i'd have run dvi-over-fiber long ago

18:04:04 PeterL: attic?

18:04:04 asciilifeform: i don't have a proper place for this.

18:04:05 asciilifeform: at all.

18:04:10 asciilifeform: attic is not hermetically sealed.

18:04:22 asciilifeform: very high humidity there, year round.

18:04:42 asciilifeform: and megatonnes of dirt blowing in.

18:04:43 PeterL: I guess this just goes back to thread on "your rent (per sqft) is too damn high"

18:05:14 asciilifeform: this is only half the story

18:05:21 asciilifeform: in places where it is lower, the pay is ALSO lowe.

18:05:22 asciilifeform: r

18:06:08 asciilifeform: and outside of MAJOR population centers, there is ZERO work for folks like me.

18:07:53 asciilifeform: but to go back to the question, it is a ludicrous 'dirigible' solution

18:07:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00053052 = 6.3397 BTC [+] {2}

18:08:00 asciilifeform: a machined copper heat sink might be costly,

18:08:05 asciilifeform: but at least it would not be a RECURRING cost.

18:08:09 asciilifeform: INTO ETERNITY

18:08:11 asciilifeform: wtf.

18:08:33 asciilifeform: why the fuck would i rent a gigantic mansion just to silence computer.

18:08:39 asciilifeform: why not put it in an airplane then.

18:10:12 asciilifeform: yes, possibly mircea_popescu's pc is in orbit.

18:10:19 asciilifeform: and the terminal - is kept in a slavegurl's arse.

18:10:26 asciilifeform: but this is not a useful recipe to me.

18:10:47 jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1429762 whole discussion reminded me of shit i heard several times "this linux admin we had was always tinkering with the server and there was always something broken. we switched to windows server with IIS and all is swell now!"

18:10:47 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 00:10:56; asciilifeform: no one wants to LIVE badly enough

18:11:30 asciilifeform: why not put out their eyes.

18:11:35 asciilifeform: so they can see even less broken !

18:11:46 asciilifeform: !s room would be empty

18:11:47 assbot: 3 results for 'room would be empty' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=room+would+be+empty

18:13:58 deedbot-: [Qntra] "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks - http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/

18:25:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00052583 = 2.4188 BTC [-] {2}

18:29:06 jurov: I don't like laureate-contining stuff because it's hard to wash off.

18:30:39 BingoBoingo: I'm indifferent to it

18:30:56 jurov: And when i do repeat and wash it off, the skin is left completely stripped of fat film, which is not healthy.

18:32:03 BingoBoingo: Aha, this is why it can be an irritant

18:32:08 jurov: well, i know people "indifferent to it" the developed hand eczemas after 20y of using it.

18:32:15 jurov: *then

18:33:10 jurov: oh, it is irritant if you get it into the eyes

18:33:11 BingoBoingo: Skin's a tricky thing

18:33:28 BingoBoingo: But yeah, eyes really need their film

18:37:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1996 @ 0.00052583 = 1.0496 BTC [-]

18:39:23 *: BingoBoingo doesn't understand what was so wrong about lye soap

18:41:59 asciilifeform: so ~that's~ what was in evil soap

18:42:09 asciilifeform: i have a list of soaps that ughh won'twashoff

18:42:14 asciilifeform: not to ever buy.

18:44:34 BingoBoingo: Yes, it is in all of the evil soaps

18:45:21 asciilifeform: at least room temperature cheese one will never buy by chance.

18:52:35 BingoBoingo: But detergent pretending to be honest soap hides well

18:52:41 BingoBoingo: until wet

18:54:50 BingoBoingo: !up pigeons

18:56:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00052582 = 5.6789 BTC [-] {3}

19:02:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0005263 = 4.6578 BTC [+]

19:09:21 BingoBoingo: Won a "comedy hack day" prize https://archive.is/9ZwAW

19:09:23 assbot: New App Splits Meal Bills So White Males Pay Extra for Their Privilege | Alternet ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH5pcg )

19:10:26 pete_dushenski: l0l

19:11:04 pete_dushenski: i guess from now on massa is just gonna pick up the tab for his slaves

19:13:21 pete_dushenski: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/600980/a-bitcoin-style-currency-for-central-banks/ << prb-fork contender

19:13:23 assbot: A Bitcoin-Style Currency for Central Banks ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH6gKf )

19:15:44 pete_dushenski: http://www0.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/G.Danezis/papers/ndss16currencies.pdf << related lolpaper

19:15:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QN7tO4 )

19:15:59 fluffypony: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/47z1xd/in_the_future_will_we_be_using_ethereumlike/d0gf65j

19:16:01 assbot: vbuterin comments on In the future, will we be using Ethereum-like (& slock.it like) tech to document consensual sexual intercourse? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QN7uln )

19:17:09 pete_dushenski: da fuck is '$xxx' gonna do to raise a child ?

19:18:13 jurov: didn't he go further? like, upload your genome to eth, and let it procreate

19:18:15 fluffypony: I have no words

19:19:32 trinque: "A small collection of third-party organizations would be chosen by the central bank to process new transactions and submit them for inclusion in the central ledger." << >> http://biblehub.com/revelation/13-16.htm

19:19:33 assbot: Revelation 13:16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, ... ( http://bit.ly/1YH7Co9 )

19:19:36 trinque: not that I'm religious.

19:22:47 pete_dushenski: like ash wednesday, every day

19:26:03 pete_dushenski: "Billionaire investor and Palantir co-founder Peter Thiel tells Fortune that he thinks that Palantir's data software can actually help end ubiquitous surveillance by showing agencies like the NSA exactly who's up to no good, so they can leave everybody else alone." << fuck thiel with alf's telephone pole-sized stake. who is dumb enough to believe that this is how ~anything~ works ?

19:27:00 pete_dushenski: specifically, that the nsa doesn't leave ~everyone alone as a matter of practical necessity ?

19:30:24 thestringpuller: this ties into Big Data "alchemist's AI" discussion

19:31:46 pete_dushenski: and, hell, alphago

19:32:18 thestringpuller: meh. being a huge fan of AI, I understand the harware yet exists to create more formative models of "intelligence"

19:32:53 thestringpuller: the next best thing is data mining and running it through "machine learning" to create models.

19:33:15 thestringpuller: Pure unsupervised learning I don't think is possible which I guess ascii and I both yearn for...

19:37:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7792 @ 0.00052898 = 4.1218 BTC [+] {4}

19:37:29 pete_dushenski: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-blockchain-summit-with-richard-branson-on-necker-island << for enteblockchainologists only

19:37:30 assbot: My Wet and Wild Bitcoin Weekend On Richard Branson's Island Refuge | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1YHbuFI )

19:38:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7876 @ 0.0005257 = 4.1404 BTC [-] {2}

19:39:37 asciilifeform: wats with all the redditesque crud.

19:39:38 asciilifeform: snore.

19:39:55 *: asciilifeform can't be bothered to read any

19:40:07 pete_dushenski: well, you have a stake to sit on, neh ?

19:40:49 pete_dushenski: reddit is like a pseudo-stake for people who don't otherwise have one, but care to dip their toes in now and again

19:41:09 asciilifeform: that would make sense if it paid people

19:41:35 pete_dushenski: people don't need to be paid. pee-ple. not redditards, now.

19:42:17 pete_dushenski: or people need to be paid but it's not stake-bad

19:44:01 asciilifeform: what i mean is, i shovel boring crud for money.

19:44:23 asciilifeform: but i can't fathom why to do it voluntarily.

20:00:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4324 @ 0.00053038 = 2.2934 BTC [+]

20:07:10 thestringpuller: "we should have wine at work every friday" - the girls in my department

20:08:43 trinque: sounds like a great tradition in the making

20:12:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11968 @ 0.00052545 = 6.2886 BTC [-]

20:16:21 jurov: thestringpuller: propose topless days

20:17:19 pete_dushenski: for the men only

20:17:51 jurov: !t m x.eur

20:17:51 assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00263 / 0.00295359 / 0.00304264 (264 shares, 0.78 BTC), 7D: 0.00254491 / 0.00280379 / 0.00370358 (3016 shares, 8.46 BTC), 30D: 0.00253517 / 0.00275579 / 0.00370358 (11971 shares, 32.99 BTC)

20:18:14 jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00295359

20:18:14 gribble: 338.571027123

20:18:30 jurov: should i call this bull or bear?

20:18:42 pete_dushenski: depends how hairy

20:18:45 jurov: or call davout?

20:18:56 asciilifeform: <+jurov> should i call this bull or bear? << boar.

20:19:35 jurov: ;;ticker --currency eur --market bitcoin-central

20:19:36 gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 376.79, Best ask: 380.99, Bid-ask spread: 4.20000, Last trade: 381.0, 24 hour volume: 39.71691309, 24 hour low: 371.4, 24 hour high: 383.98, 24 hour vwap: 379.89636294

20:19:47 jurov: ^ just to make sense to logreaders

20:23:20 jurov: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-10/incredible-story-how-hackers-stole-100-million-new-york-fed << what should alf be doing instead

20:23:21 assbot: The Incredible Story Of How Hackers Stole $100 Million From The New York Fed | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1RVodlf )

20:23:55 jurov: he would surely not misspell "foundation" as "fandation"

20:25:40 jurov: Well, as it turns out, Bangladesh doesn't agree that the Fed isn't ultimately culpable. "We kept money with the Federal Reserve Bank and irregularities must be with the people who handle the funds there," Finance Minister Abul Maal Abdul Muhith said on Wednesday.

20:25:49 jurov: irregularities ftw!

20:28:27 jurov: like, some irregularities must have been with mircea_popescu when he went to experiment with bitbet funds

20:32:37 asciilifeform: jurov: idiotic article. as if nobodies could move 100m wherever.

20:32:46 BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/a7wNwql.png

20:32:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UZ4FPG )

20:34:01 jurov: asciilifeform: you don't like to see the beast bleed?

20:34:26 jurov: and why do you think this did not happen?

20:34:41 asciilifeform: jurov: the beast is not bleeding. it moved coin from its left pocket to right.

20:35:03 asciilifeform: let's even assume, charitably , that there WAS a theft.

20:35:07 asciilifeform: instead of simple launder by usg.

20:35:11 BingoBoingo: Maybe beast did bleed, but alf is just in wrong swamp to take delivery of blood?

20:35:15 asciilifeform: if you HAVE A PLACE TO PUT stolen electric fiat,

20:35:19 asciilifeform: YOU ARE WELL CONNECTED.

20:35:35 asciilifeform: what part of this is hard to understand ?

20:36:15 jurov: well, the image mircea projects is such that he *would* be able to provide you with account numbers on asking

20:37:36 jurov: so, imo worth trying

20:37:55 asciilifeform: fiat isn't btc, nobody walks away with irretrievable 100m.

20:38:12 asciilifeform: nor is it ever a permanent mystery which door to break down.

20:38:26 jurov: you don't need 100m, i hope

20:38:37 asciilifeform: nor is any organization ever seriously pwned except via substantial humint component.

20:39:22 jurov: such as.. guessing the right email addresses when sending transfer requests?

20:39:33 asciilifeform: jurov: if i knew how to rob hitler, i wouldn't be poor.

20:39:49 asciilifeform: what, you think my conscience would torture me ?

20:40:05 jurov: i have no idea what to think

20:40:11 jurov: wrt you

20:40:59 jurov: you seem to be in war, but with utterly impenetrable and undefinable entity

20:41:01 asciilifeform: why not clean out the fuhrer's pockets yourself, if you think you know how...

20:41:36 jurov: i am not in war

20:42:12 trinque: eh lacking the infrastructure to protect oneself this is not a heist worth pulling

20:42:22 trinque: and that's not something you JIT after having done so

20:42:51 asciilifeform: jurov: you may not be interested in the war, but, to borrow from trotsky, 'the war is quite interested in you'

20:44:29 jurov: i am interested but so far i have not noticed anything beyond derping noise

20:46:19 asciilifeform: ...?

20:46:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00052946 = 3.7062 BTC [+]

20:47:06 jurov: i have not seen anything that can't be explained by gross incompetence

20:48:45 asciilifeform: srsly?!

20:48:51 jurov: srsly.

20:48:51 asciilifeform: the phork warz, mean nothing to jurov ?

20:49:01 asciilifeform: hearn is just an incompetent ?

20:49:07 asciilifeform: gavin meant well?!

20:49:10 asciilifeform: what is this.

20:49:21 trinque: he just had lunch buddies at the cia

20:50:15 jurov: they are just another derps

20:51:33 asciilifeform: j. dimon is also an innocent fool?

20:51:36 asciilifeform: jurov is on lsd ?

20:51:56 jurov: who is dimon?

20:52:08 asciilifeform: !s dimon

20:52:08 assbot: 22 results for 'dimon' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dimon

20:54:11 jurov: what about genjix? he was on TV, must be teh enemy!!!

20:54:38 asciilifeform: and waterfall never happened, aha

20:54:48 asciilifeform: and no one deletes tmsr material from reddit, and hn

20:54:57 asciilifeform: and no one stole mircea_popescu's servers.

20:55:04 asciilifeform: and no one power cycled phuctor.

20:55:05 asciilifeform: etc.

20:55:08 asciilifeform: ahahahaha.

20:55:17 asciilifeform: jurov talk to your lsd supplier plox.

20:55:24 asciilifeform: he is giving you impure material.

20:57:44 asciilifeform: and of course nobody http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-02-2016#1396681

20:57:44 assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 20:42:54; ascii_butugychag: or the derp who called me on the disconnected phone?

20:58:16 asciilifeform: and nobody ddosed qntra, fraudsters

20:58:56 asciilifeform: and nobody http://fraudsters.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you

20:58:58 assbot: On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UZ9Gbe )

20:58:59 asciilifeform: etc.

20:59:32 jurov: this yes. but not gavin and hearn

20:59:33 asciilifeform: i suppose it was all incompetence.

21:00:25 asciilifeform: if incompetence is indistinguishable from wrecking, it ~IS~ wrecking.

21:00:34 asciilifeform: and is to be dealt with in exactly same way.

21:00:46 asciilifeform: we had this thread re: ninjashogun.

21:09:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10831 @ 0.00053072 = 5.7482 BTC [+] {3}

21:10:58 trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249399

21:10:58 assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 05:06:06; trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once!

21:15:05 asciilifeform: ;;seen ninjashogun

21:15:05 gribble: ninjashogun was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 18 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 41 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <ninjashogun> I am only interested in building real-world businesses with real income streams, not taking bitcoin investments for something and running off iwth it. (Not referencing anyone here, this was a recent case with Moolah, for example. Or at least accusation.)

21:15:09 asciilifeform: ;;seen strup`fndr

21:15:09 gribble: I have not seen strup`fndr.

21:15:35 asciilifeform: ;;seen strup

21:15:35 gribble: I have not seen strup.

21:15:49 asciilifeform: ;;seen strp

21:15:49 gribble: strp was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 23 weeks, 0 days, 0 hours, 6 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <strp> no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with.

21:16:29 asciilifeform: frolicking with the spmalkyries in spmalhalla, isn't he.

21:17:21 asciilifeform: ;;seen decimation

21:17:21 gribble: decimation was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 6 days, 17 hours, 58 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <decimation> I enjoyed my time here, learned much, had many lolz. I do not wish to cause drama or be an impediment to improving bitcoin. Even though I presently have L2 rating from a few people, I am not going impose on their good grace by remaining. God bless all of you.

21:17:33 asciilifeform: ;;seen polarbeard

21:17:34 gribble: polarbeard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <polarbeard> cpp is full of it

21:17:59 nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430515 << retired

21:17:59 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 15:56:24; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430497 << stopped how ?

21:19:26 asciilifeform: so turns out nubbins` has more in common with mircea_popescu than with asciilifeform

21:19:43 jurov: asciilifeform: since you nicely ennumerated the activity, how would the adacoin or your refusal to pay taxes from btc sale help against these?

21:19:45 nubbins`: my father retired, picked up two new part-time jobs

21:19:59 jurov: against meddling with servers and media?

21:20:20 asciilifeform: jurov: having 'key servers' or whatever central point of failure invites hitler.

21:20:31 nubbins`: asciilifeform mircea_popescu has a post-secondary education?!

21:21:00 asciilifeform: nubbins`: iirc he did.

21:21:07 nubbins`: imagine

21:21:12 asciilifeform: philosophy, iirc

21:21:17 nubbins`: lol.

21:21:21 asciilifeform: but earlier he ran away from maths

21:21:23 nubbins`: makes sense

21:21:26 nubbins`: also makes sense

21:21:33 asciilifeform: it is in the logz

21:22:05 nubbins`: if cannot grok numbers, try grokking universe

21:22:24 nubbins`: mathematics is an entirely philosophical pursuit fwiw

21:22:55 asciilifeform: iirc he grokked just fine, but decided he'd rather do business.

21:23:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14175 @ 0.00052946 = 7.5051 BTC [-] {2}

21:27:08 *: nubbins` just finished setting up 6-colour job on the press

21:33:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00053073 = 4.5908 BTC [+]

21:39:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13567 @ 0.00052944 = 7.1829 BTC [-] {2}

21:41:02 asciilifeform: nubbins`: neato

21:43:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4356 @ 0.0005256 = 2.2895 BTC [-] {4}

22:04:52 shinohai: ok #b-a I need a wireless router, what choose?

22:05:07 asciilifeform: shinohai: make it yourself

22:05:30 asciilifeform: out of whatever fanless box + wireless nic

22:06:26 *: shinohai doesn't have a spare nic :/

22:06:27 jurov: i bought miniitx celeron + pci wifi card + old hdd and found out that with 8G RAM it can be used for *anything*

22:06:46 jurov: there's gigabyte board with 2 ports

22:06:53 jurov: ethernet

22:08:51 asciilifeform: i like 'pcengines'

22:08:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15077 @ 0.00052862 = 7.97 BTC [+] {2}

22:09:00 asciilifeform: amd g-series.

22:09:10 asciilifeform: single-board pancake thing.

22:11:18 BingoBoingo: If you're quarentining the wireless network to play with toys on the discontinued "airrouter HP" will offer rather good range at cheapish price. Just do srs networking on something else.

22:12:25 BingoBoingo: But the alf solution + quality antenna is the right way to do it.

22:12:43 shinohai: so dedi box it is

22:19:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15073 @ 0.00052879 = 7.9705 BTC [+]

22:19:09 BingoBoingo: "airrouter" in one of the unfortunate ubiquiti things that does not quite have the run whatever you want ability possessed by "edgerouter lite" but for toy purposes It is hard to beat the range it offers for anything close to its price.

22:19:53 shinohai: i got this old cantenna here too.

22:20:10 shinohai: so could make a repeater

22:21:34 *: BingoBoingo has an airrouter not the HP version serving some toys here. Playing with iptables over ssh is nice, but can not run whole set of AWS blocker rules on its own without crashing.

22:23:59 shinohai: what firmware ?

22:24:57 BingoBoingo: shinohai: "airos"

22:25:44 shinohai: im using dd-wrt now :/

22:28:35 jurov: BingoBoingo: what, iptables crashes on your rules?

22:28:45 shinohai: this is like 0.25 from china http://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Airrouter-Ethernet-Wireless-Broadband/dp/B00V5EJS0I

22:28:47 assbot: Amazon.com: Ubiquiti Airrouter Ar. Hp Ieee 802.11N Ethernet Wireless Router . 2.40 Ghz Ism Band . 1 X Antenna1 X External) . 656.2 Ft Indoor Range . 150 Mbps Wireless Speed . 4 X Network Port . 1 X Broadband Port . Usb . Fast Ethernet . No Desktop "Product Type: Wireless Devices/Wireless Routers": C ... ( http://bit.ly/21ndYcf )

22:31:45 jurov: in other news, http://hugelolcdn.com/i700/380367.jpg

22:31:46 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21neaYL )

22:35:40 BingoBoingo: jurov: It does on chintzy $30 wireless router when using all the AWS blocking rules generated by alf script

22:36:14 BingoBoingo: shinohai: It can be had cheaper

22:36:40 shinohai: im in the middle of a build, still shopping around

22:36:50 BingoBoingo: ~750 lines of iptables rules crashes it. ~100 does not.

22:37:40 BingoBoingo: Of all things, 'top' manages to crash it

22:37:55 BingoBoingo: but left in place to route it works

22:39:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00053073 = 4.3785 BTC [+]

22:40:21 BingoBoingo: or mebbe it is the combination of 'top' and keeping an ssh tunnel open.

22:46:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00053073 = 4.9889 BTC [+]

22:54:25 jurov: BingoBoingo:looking at banhammer, you actually only need lines marked as EC2 as these are the evil VPSes. and changing REJECT to DROP may help with resource usage, too

22:55:30 BingoBoingo: jurov: Twas set as drop. Problem though may actually have been RAM contrainsts. Anyways twas a stress test. Do actual blocking elsewhere.

22:55:30 jurov: btw, i searched via logs and found that https://archive.is/http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000187.html is not archived at archive.is

22:55:31 assbot: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000187.html ... ( http://bit.ly/1plaZp3 )

22:55:44 BingoBoingo: interesting

22:56:30 jurov: prolly nobody used it yet.. i now archived it

22:58:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7679 @ 0.00052545 = 4.0349 BTC [-] {2}

23:03:45 jurov: and i'd try to use raw iptables table

23:09:02 BingoBoingo: http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2016/03/08/up-to-speed-on-meldonium

23:09:05 assbot: Up to Speed on Meldonium | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1plcJyK )

23:17:46 asciilifeform: lulzy, https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-recovers-stolen-indian-artifacts-major-auction-house-ahead-asia-week-new-york

23:17:47 assbot: ICE recovers stolen Indian artifacts from major auction house ahead of Asia Week New York | ICE ... ( http://bit.ly/1pdLO74 )

23:17:50 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo ^ qntra ?

23:21:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00052456 = 11.5403 BTC [-] {8}

23:29:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00052764 = 5.9096 BTC [+]

23:29:48 BingoBoingo: lemme take a look

23:38:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00052764 = 1.794 BTC [+]

23:40:30 mircea_popescu: jesus freenode is fucking useless is it.

23:41:27 kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/n2sHG8E.png

23:41:27 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QNBVI5 )

23:43:16 shinohai: communism at it's finest.

23:45:37 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'A huge difference: In the former Soviet block an academic scientist published in order to satisfy the party commissars of his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by the government. In western countries an academic scientist publishes in order to demonstrate to grant review committee members his/her proper and productive use of funds dispensed by government-funded gr

23:45:41 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430529 <<< i would be very surprised if clinton gets 30%.

23:45:41 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 17:32:25; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> if you run the data, it'd actually be BETTER for him if they refuse to nominate. helps more than hinders with voters. << yeah, this way he prolly gets 20-27% of general election vote, GOP nominee gets 20-27% of vote, and Clitler gets 51.5%

23:45:43 asciilifeform: ant agencies. '

23:45:46 asciilifeform: lel

23:45:48 mircea_popescu: 20-something's written on her foreheads.

23:45:58 asciilifeform: i will be very surprised if clitler doesn't get 90%.

23:46:05 asciilifeform: by dieboldian fiat, naturally

23:46:34 asciilifeform: but i like surprises.

23:46:38 mircea_popescu: this is how teenagers end up shaving their head.

23:47:07 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The US major socialist party, as designated by qntra, gets that designation because its affliated voters actually vote the party line

23:47:11 asciilifeform: i thought it was so the electrodes stick

23:47:47 mircea_popescu: used to. currently, the bottom fell out, and the local nigglets are pissed off.

23:47:55 BingoBoingo: permitted 3rd party and independent candidates nearly always bleed voters from US minor socialist party

23:48:03 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430537 << methinks you may be on to something.

23:48:03 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 18:01:59; trinque: so now we'll have "had the debate" as per BingoBoingo, and the above will be overt SOP

23:48:30 mircea_popescu: problem being that every tard out there already "feels like he's secretly in a movie", so this, much like gestapo stuff generally, is well desired by the genpop.

23:49:27 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll have to think of an axis on which to turn artifact news.

23:50:24 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> by dieboldian fiat, naturally << The beauty of the diebold rigging is the 53% mandate makes things look contested while still ensuring safety for the most scaled lizards

23:51:30 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: electoral reprogramming is not to prevent the mythical 'politican does untoward thing' but rather the milder catastrophe of 'SAYS untoward thing'

23:51:30 mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/03/honest-soap-scandal-deepens-a-chemist-speaks/ << this is not so bad as a starter peterl but a) why do you discuss yourself in the 3rd person and b) why is it so aside ?

23:51:31 assbot: "Honest" Soap Scandal Deepens: A Chemist Speaks | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QKZrnM )

23:52:18 mircea_popescu: think about yourself as a reader. then read it. is the piece all it could have been ?

23:52:39 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a trump would be electable if he could be certain of not picking up the microphone and prattling about rothchildren

23:53:00 asciilifeform: *if they could be certain of him not

23:53:19 mircea_popescu: i find this proposition that there actually exists a us elite utterly hysterical.

23:53:23 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You're confusing Trump the character and Trump the actor

23:53:43 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is not a us elite and has not been since... rockfeller ?

23:53:47 asciilifeform: but there is elite.

23:54:57 asciilifeform: '"With high demand from all corners of the globe, collectors must be certain of provenance before purchasing. I urge dealers and auction houses to take every necessary precaution to avoid facilitating the sale of cultural heritage stolen from other civilizations. If a provenance is in doubt, report it to law enforcement authorities."'

23:55:06 asciilifeform: ^ translation: only APPROVED thieves may steal.

23:55:36 asciilifeform: 'The investigation has also identified Subhash Kapoor, who is currently in custody in India awaiting trial for allegedly looting tens of millions of dollars' worth of rare antiquities from several nations. The trails of looted artifacts have been traced all around the world. Within the past twelve months, four domestic museums and one major collector have partnered with HSI to surrender illic

23:55:42 asciilifeform: it cultural property stemming from Kapoor.'

23:56:13 asciilifeform: ^ translation: a thief's license has been cancelled by hitler, he is to be dekulakized.

23:56:51 BingoBoingo: aha

23:57:23 asciilifeform: 'Since 2007, more than 8,000 artifacts have been returned to 30 countries, including paintings from France, Germany, Poland and Austria ...' << translation: usg muppet regimes need to eat, why not subsidize them cheaply by helping them to sell their art sphincter virginity multiple times

23:57:53 asciilifeform: france sells, usg knocks buyer on the head, sends $rembrandt back... rinse, repeat.

23:58:00 mircea_popescu: heh

23:58:10 mircea_popescu: how exactly were 8000 items stolen from n countries ?

23:58:31 asciilifeform: by being peacefully sold to unsuspecting sacrificial goats ?

23:58:35 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430635 << nude fridays, too.

23:58:35 assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 20:07:10; thestringpuller: "we should have wine at work every friday" - the girls in my department

23:58:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we have booze here at $rupturefarm

23:58:51 asciilifeform: it dun help.

23:59:08 asciilifeform: i open various cabinets in search of office supplies and keep finding liquor.

23:59:33 mircea_popescu: yeah wel lyou don't work at webstack firm.

23:59:51 asciilifeform: what do they have there? heroin ?

23:59:57 mircea_popescu: sluts.