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00:07:21 lobbes: http://qntra.net/2015/09/former-reddit-ceo-surrenders-legal-fight-after-losing-media-outlet/ << BingoBoingo, micro-typo: 'she was order to pay the firm's legal fees'

00:07:22 assbot: Former Reddit CEO Surrenders Legal Fight After Losing Media Outlet | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kbulzo )

00:07:49 lobbes: I always feel like a weenie pointing out typos, but *shrug*

00:08:20 BingoBoingo: ty lobbes

00:08:53 BingoBoingo: I'd rather find out in channel than on the article's comments

00:09:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31596 @ 0.00073149 = 23.1122 BTC [-] {3}

00:11:44 shinohai: http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/09/10/vxworks-remote-code-vulnerability/

00:11:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1d62I )

00:12:02 shinohai: ^ Mars rover haxxable ?

00:12:11 BingoBoingo: Why not?

00:12:55 shinohai: "nasa.exe has encountered a problem a needs to close .... "

00:13:45 lobbes: "Intel Inside ™"

00:24:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22554 @ 0.00073506 = 16.5785 BTC [+]

00:30:00 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/BVlEreU.jpg

00:30:00 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1eCC1 )

00:31:39 shinohai: Wow this guy almost makes Gavin look genius: http://upalc.com/

00:31:40 assbot: Random Surfer | Google Boy ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1eJ0s )

00:35:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00073626 = 14.5779 BTC [+] {3}

00:39:55 BingoBoingo: Oh shit, Road House is getting a remake nao http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/148334214/ronda-rousey-road-house

00:39:56 assbot: "Road House" with Ronda Rousey: Let's cast it. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1fINZ )

00:41:06 shinohai: Sweet!

00:46:00 lobbes: https://i.imgur.com/BVlEreU.jpg << the crocs with socks really add to it

00:46:01 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1eCC1 )

00:48:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28950 @ 0.00073919 = 21.3996 BTC [+] {3}

00:52:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33662 @ 0.00073135 = 24.6187 BTC [-] {3}

01:00:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00073056 = 4.6025 BTC [-]

01:09:31 BingoBoingo: lol danielpbarron https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.msg11816638#msg11816638

01:09:33 assbot: Here's where I spew my accusations against MPOE. All are welcome. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1iGCn )

01:16:26 BingoBoingo: Havelol >> <assbot> [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 1 @ 0.0985 BTC [+]

01:18:30 lobbes: I must say, the only good thing about that forum was that I found this place through it.

01:20:32 BingoBoingo: Yeah, I pity the USG philipenis stuck there without hanbot to tell them how it is

01:20:47 BingoBoingo: On the other hand though I value hanbot's health

01:24:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00073365 = 13.6092 BTC [+] {3}

01:26:53 BingoBoingo: Gold https://archive.is/BWoLC

01:29:58 BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/LAipVmP

01:29:59 assbot: You're a beautiful and violent word (f) - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1kgnK )

01:30:07 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/FWz9jci.jpg?1

01:30:08 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1khI6 )

01:30:22 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/AhHJMURh.jpg

01:30:23 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1kif9 )

01:31:06 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/rZrpZBk.jpg

01:31:07 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1klHU )

01:31:38 thestringpuller: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74399.0 << https://blockchain.info/address/19SuidQS9ZSU59WXyPPDpKJWyBePzxKZY7

01:31:55 BingoBoingo: Why the Chicoms will win https://imgur.com/a/0K05t/noscript

01:31:55 assbot: Sexy Shower Time - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1kpY7 )

01:32:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00073048 = 1.6801 BTC [-]

01:35:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00073048 = 18.2255 BTC [-]

01:35:35 BingoBoingo: http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/amazing-story-finding-homo-naledi

01:35:35 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

01:35:35 assbot: Why This Researcher Hunted For Scientists With Chests Narrower Than 18 Centimeters | IFLScience ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5rywH )

01:35:47 BingoBoingo: ^ The Chicoms are coming

01:36:35 BingoBoingo: ^ also fluffypony those are your people, your ancestors

01:37:44 BingoBoingo: "That?s why Hunter, among others, had been prepping as all dedicated explorers do: crawling under her bed and contorting herself through wire hangers for reassurance... But no amount of bedroom gymnastics could prepare the team for what it would be like."

01:39:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00073017 = 17.159 BTC [-] {3}

01:40:11 BingoBoingo: http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/67/39/075662e7f8c23ba7bbb5384d96f38695.jpg

01:40:11 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J1l105 )

01:42:35 BingoBoingo: Fucking wikisocialism http://www.wikihow.com/Dampen-the-Enthusiasm-of-Your-Neighbors-Who-Want-to-Add-a-New-Fence

01:42:36 assbot: How to Dampen the Enthusiasm of Your Neighbors Who Want to Add a New Fence ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5sh10 )

01:48:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10163 @ 0.00073671 = 7.4872 BTC [+]

01:56:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46050 @ 0.00073973 = 34.0646 BTC [+]

02:04:03 BingoBoingo: http://www.wikihow.com/Wake-up-from-the-American-Dream

02:04:03 assbot: How to Wake up from the American Dream: 15 Steps (with Pictures) ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5tZzb )

02:08:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56092 @ 0.00073991 = 41.503 BTC [+] {4}

02:25:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00073554 = 23.1695 BTC [-] {2}

02:27:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29165 @ 0.00072978 = 21.284 BTC [-] {5}

02:38:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42270 @ 0.0007297 = 30.8444 BTC [-]

02:40:48 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269770 << run moar usg shitware!

02:40:48 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 00:11:44; shinohai: http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/09/10/vxworks-remote-code-vulnerability/

02:41:33 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 how come therealbitcoin www has the 'NOT TO BE USED IN PRODUCTION' thing on it ?

02:41:34 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:41:50 asciilifeform: which bitcoin, precisely, ~is~ to be used ?

02:44:56 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> which bitcoin, precisely, ~is~ to be used ? << production==rand(Bitcoinreleases) prolly 0.3.23

02:45:29 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

02:45:38 Vexual: heya

02:47:14 Vexual: nothing left to chop alf?

02:48:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0007399 = 12.5043 BTC [+]

02:50:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00074092 = 19.1157 BTC [+] {3}

02:53:21 mod6: neat, got antecedents and descendants working.

02:53:44 mod6: asciilifeform: basic disclaimer.

02:55:15 cazalla: how bout that weather Vexual

02:55:20 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you have a 0.3 adapted to work on modern net, let's have it ?

02:55:30 Vexual: oh wery wainy

02:55:44 asciilifeform: mod6: notice that the enemy crap has no disclaimer - they would laugh at the very idea

02:56:05 mod6: asciilifeform: at one point ben and I discussed a 'warning' or 'disclaimer' because mp asked us to put something up there iirc

02:56:23 mod6: lemme find it in the b-a logs.

02:56:48 cazalla: Vexual, perfect spring day down here - around 21c or so

02:56:55 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: if you have a 0.3 adapted to work on modern net, let's have it ? << I don't pussling at this dilemma as well

02:57:59 Vexual: aren't you supposed to be in some mine somewhere caz?

02:58:51 mod6: asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-03-2015#1076953

02:58:51 assbot: Logged on 28-03-2015 16:35:32; mircea_popescu: mod6 ben_vulpes you think some warnings should be brewed maybe ?

02:59:39 Vexual: cazalla: promoted?

03:00:18 cazalla: Vexual, nah i left because of some issues with asbestos and then started a new job, but turned out $25 p/h for an 8 hour working day actually meant $25 p/h for first 8 hours, work for next 4 hours for free! (fuck 12 hour days even if it was fully paid)

03:01:59 mod6: whereas v0.5.3.1 has no disclaimer contained within, TEST2 does have a bit of a warning the README.txt file. So perhaps the warning could go away.

03:02:03 mod6: (on the website)

03:02:43 Vexual: warning: bitcoin

03:02:49 mod6: haha

03:06:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00073332 = 13.8964 BTC [-]

03:08:00 BingoBoingo: <Vexual> warning: bitcoin << "Warning use of this software puts you at odds with every national government and all agenst of socialism"

03:13:03 Vexual: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-11/senate-nanny-state-inquiry-begins/6766740

03:16:09 pete_dushenski: "Gun control advocates in Tacoma, Wash., are thinking inside the box -- literally -- with a controversial proposal to set up a gun "drop box" to encourage residents to turn in firearms, no questions asked." << "we also advise residents to wipe their guns clean of fingerprints and bodily fluids because we WILL be inspecting each and every firearms for evidence that may be used in any ongoing investigation"

03:16:19 pete_dushenski: seriously now.

03:16:37 pete_dushenski: ;;nethash

03:16:38 gribble: 448502080.532

03:16:58 cazalla: turn in ya guns pete_dushenski

03:17:24 pete_dushenski: first, i'd have to be crazy enough to live in tacoma

03:17:42 pete_dushenski: edmonton is all about the stabbings this last decade or so

03:17:46 cazalla: speaking of guns, not far from where i grew up, old man dies, family finds lots of guns, police shocked for some reason but tell public, pls hand in guns kthx, we wont arrest u! http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/3336487/mystery-weapons-haul-baffles-lake-illawarra-police/?cs=298 pew pew

03:17:49 assbot: Mystery weapons haul baffles Lake Illawarra police | Illawarra Mercury ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZ9tMm )

03:18:14 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell jurov please to flush withdrawals

03:18:14 gribble: The operation succeeded.

03:18:54 cazalla: how's life with the little one pete?

03:18:55 pete_dushenski: cazalla: bizarre the way some insane children think the way the world work

03:19:42 pete_dushenski: "The reason the insane can't treat the sane is that sanity is one whereas insanity is numerous and varied. Should the sane try to treat the insane, they are all proceeding towards the same goal. Should the insane try to treat the same they are all proceeding towards different goals, and necessarily their efforts will come to naught." << mp on sane v. insane

03:20:04 pete_dushenski: cazalla: no complaints thus far, my man, no complaints thus far.

03:21:19 pete_dushenski: eating lots of cheesecake these days

03:21:34 pete_dushenski: some kinda strange coping mechanism, but who am i to argue with mother nature ?

03:23:16 pete_dushenski: "Chinese tech companies reportedly hiring 'cheerleaders' to motivate programmers" << ok this is cool

03:23:50 pete_dushenski: "unlike Google and Facebook, where employees must walk (or ride Segways) to company restaurants for free food, these cheerleaders will reportedly take breakfast orders from employees right at their desks." << suck it, sv.

03:24:17 pete_dushenski: "internet companies "across China" are hiring "pretty, talented girls that help create a fun work environment. Dubbed "programming cheerleaders," these young women serve to chit-chat and play Ping-Pong with employees as part of their role."

03:26:14 cazalla: i can't imagine either place steers too far from the office space environment.. Corporate Accounts Payable, Baozhai speaking! Just a moment!

03:26:25 pete_dushenski: https://www.facebook.com/trendinginchina/photos/pcb.603461796423974/603459879757499/?type=1&theater << photoz. (sorry for fb)

03:26:26 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHYtZu )

03:27:26 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269882 << i can easily see this coming to no good

03:27:26 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:24:17; pete_dushenski: "internet companies "across China" are hiring "pretty, talented girls that help create a fun work environment. Dubbed "programming cheerleaders," these young women serve to chit-chat and play Ping-Pong with employees as part of their role."

03:27:52 pete_dushenski: paint the picture for us :)

03:28:23 cazalla: can imagine asciilifeform sitting right there in the middle singing along http://b4by.org/img.php?a=13642

03:29:21 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: general-purpose 'lord of the flies' calamity. or what, do you think the 3 gurlz can service whole battalion of grunts ?

03:29:23 pete_dushenski: step 1. software firm hires boys to write code, step 2. firm hires girls to keep mood light and boys amused.... ok, y'know i see how this would just be utterly distracting now

03:29:43 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: so 1:1 needed

03:30:06 asciilifeform: 0 is cheaper

03:30:29 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: though if memory serves mircea_popescu had some choice quotes about one women being able to service many multiples of men

03:31:13 asciilifeform: not impossible. merely improbable. esp. if it is not directly what they are paid for.

03:32:27 cazalla: looks like coindesk had a black people only table at consensus

03:32:28 cazalla: https://www.flickr.com/photos/94861732@N04/21309992191/

03:32:30 assbot: Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHYEEl )

03:33:09 pete_dushenski: cazalla: back o' the bus

03:33:57 asciilifeform: back to the picture pete_dushenski asked for

03:33:57 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: if strippers can be found for chinese funerals, why not paid pro hoes for software firms. doesn't seem like that huge of a leap.

03:34:09 asciilifeform: with no gurlz, there is 'flat hierarchy'

03:34:25 asciilifeform: all the abject schmucks are (at least notionally) equal in their misery

03:36:12 pete_dushenski: !s consensus conference

03:36:13 assbot: 0 results for 'consensus conference' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=consensus+conference

03:36:20 pete_dushenski: !s consensus

03:36:21 assbot: 335 results for 'consensus' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=consensus

03:36:39 asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/06/business/global/titanium-fills-vital-role-for-boeing-and-russia.html?_r=0 << who said nyt never had good article.

03:36:42 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHYTiL )

03:37:43 pete_dushenski: cazalla: didn't 'consensus' cost, like, thousands of dollars or some shit ? i'm just trying to wrap my head around the PLASTIC water bottles and TIN pop cans on the tables. seriously low fucking rent.

03:38:05 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: iirc it was priced, to a penny, to match mircea_popescu conf

03:38:11 asciilifeform: as a kind of wink

03:38:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22466 @ 0.00073947 = 16.6129 BTC [+]

03:38:53 pete_dushenski: right. so then quadruply fucking inexcusable catering at 'consensus'

03:39:10 asciilifeform: i can't bring myself to even read about it

03:39:15 asciilifeform: mega-snore.

03:39:21 cazalla: more importantly, do you think the black people paid for their own tickets or were bussed in? also https://www.flickr.com/photos/94861732@N04/21066067020/ from hackathon, bottom left "wealthy people send money to villagers where there is high demand for loans" lol

03:39:22 assbot: Sample workstation at the Consensus 2015 makeathon. | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHZ2CB )

03:39:41 pete_dushenski: compared and contrast, if you will, dear, log readers, with the steaks eaten at 'conference 3', as documented on fraudsters.

03:39:47 pete_dushenski: compare*

03:40:12 cazalla: you don't care for some diet snappe and reeses bars as in that pic just linked pete_dushenski ?

03:40:23 pete_dushenski: with the cold sandwiches on PAPER plates at 'consensus'.

03:41:21 pete_dushenski: cazalla: mega-lol!

03:41:45 pete_dushenski: reading the shit those 'dreamers' scrawl... oh goodness me.

03:42:27 pete_dushenski: one page : "diaspora, ethereum, groupon"

03:42:40 pete_dushenski: oh lawdy lawdy lawdy

03:47:23 pete_dushenski: "The comparison of actual and counterfactual development shows that the presence of mafia lowers the growth path, at the same time as murders increase sharply relative to the synthetic control. Evidence from electricity consumption and growth accounting suggest that lower GDP reflects a net loss of economic activity, due to the substitution of private capital with less productive public investment, rather than a

03:47:23 pete_dushenski: mere reallocation from the official to the unofficial sector. " << in summa : obey the law and you'll all be richer !

03:47:45 pete_dushenski: ^ from a study of southern italy over past 40 years

03:47:58 cazalla: jesus christ, his mother couldn't even iron him a shirt https://www.flickr.com/photos/94861732@N04/20674687064/

03:48:00 assbot: Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHZqRE )

03:48:08 pete_dushenski: honestly not worth linking. pdf turd.

03:48:38 pete_dushenski: cazalla: vitalik looks right at home in that wheelchair they gave him.

03:49:15 pete_dushenski: actually, if his crippling mental deficiencies were physical, he'd probably spur far more 'investment' !!

03:49:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37187 @ 0.0007313 = 27.1949 BTC [-] {5}

03:49:56 pete_dushenski: eth pretty stable around 0.005 btc eh

03:50:10 pete_dushenski: poor anton.

03:53:27 pete_dushenski: http://gregmankiw.blogspot.ca/2015/09/twelve-reasons-to-like-jebs-tax-plan.html << for the american log readers who aren't sold on trump, and yet are still magically sold on voting and the merits of representative democracy, i give you Bush the IIIrd

03:53:27 assbot: Greg Mankiw's Blog: Twelve reasons to like Jeb’s tax plan ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHZEIB )

03:53:57 pete_dushenski: ^summary

03:54:02 pete_dushenski: full item : https://jeb2016.com/backgrounder-jeb-bushs-tax-reform-plan/

03:54:03 assbot: BACKGROUNDER: Jeb Bush’s Tax Reform Plan | Jeb 2016 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHZIIh )

03:54:06 cazalla: heh, they really do look like wheelchairs don't they

03:54:19 pete_dushenski: professor x styles

03:56:16 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269856 << y'know alf's right. we're probably past the point of disclaimers, at least as far as using therealbitcoin software goes for relay nodes.

03:56:17 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:01:59; mod6: whereas v0.5.3.1 has no disclaimer contained within, TEST2 does have a bit of a warning the README.txt file. So perhaps the warning could go away.

03:57:57 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269592 << thus apple's new 'leasing' program.

03:57:57 assbot: Logged on 10-09-2015 18:21:20; trinque: Steve's dead, and they put the supply-chain bean counter in charge

03:58:12 asciilifeform: wai wut

03:58:28 pete_dushenski: sorta inevitabile, really

03:58:31 trinque: asciilifeform: don't you want a new iPhone every year?

03:58:43 asciilifeform: did i miss something here

03:58:53 pete_dushenski: ya, ~$30 per month ad infinitum gets you the latest greatest iphone

03:59:01 asciilifeform: afaik serious iphonists already buy new units every year

03:59:03 pete_dushenski: upgraded annually, like clockwork

03:59:11 pete_dushenski: but now, financed !

03:59:14 pete_dushenski: by apple !

03:59:40 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: that has to be a misprint - 360 usd doesn't buy even smallest thing in apple catalogue

03:59:59 pete_dushenski: it's a raw deal if my local classifieds are any indication of the resale value of 1-year-old phones. (they maintain ~95% value in this market)

04:00:20 pete_dushenski: no misprint.

04:00:31 pete_dushenski: you just give them the phone back after a year

04:00:35 pete_dushenski: in exchange for new one

04:01:03 asciilifeform: presumably new one of same type ?

04:01:06 asciilifeform: then wtf is the point

04:01:06 pete_dushenski: the trick being that the phone depreciates $100 - 200 per year, and crapple's charging customers twice that

04:01:44 asciilifeform: i thought it depreciated to ~0 after you pop the crate

04:01:59 asciilifeform: (who the hell buys a secondhand ipNohe ?!)

04:02:02 pete_dushenski: then apple resells 'refurbished phones' and makes profit

04:02:17 pete_dushenski: tons. huge market for used iphones

04:02:41 pete_dushenski: not everyone can afford full sticker lvmh

04:02:54 pete_dushenski: so, knock-offs, used, etc is the next best thing

04:03:39 pete_dushenski: hell, iphone 4 (5 years old?) still bring in >$100

04:04:28 pete_dushenski: plus, ppl break and lose their phones constantly, so want to replace with similar without going back to cell phone co.

04:05:01 pete_dushenski: so why not save a couple benjamins using craigslist, kijiji, ebay, etc.

04:26:59 pete_dushenski: ok, just checked pricing : new iphone 6s plus 128 gb is $1`289. used iphone 6 plus 128 gb is $850 here. a difference of $439.

04:28:41 pete_dushenski: now if apple's 'iphone upgrade program' were available in canada, which is isn't, this phone would have to be ~cdn$50/month, seeing as usd$ pricing 'starts at $32/mo' for base iphone 6s with 32 gb and cdn-usd is 0.75.

04:28:59 pete_dushenski: very back of napkin, yes, but apple comes out ahead, as you'd fully expect.

04:29:28 pete_dushenski: usians are free to do their own calcs

04:33:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6439 @ 0.00072686 = 4.6803 BTC [-]

04:43:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41753 @ 0.00072703 = 30.3557 BTC [+] {2}

04:44:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4197 @ 0.00073062 = 3.0664 BTC [+]

04:55:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25268 @ 0.00072659 = 18.3595 BTC [-] {3}

05:04:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6035 @ 0.00073062 = 4.4093 BTC [+]

05:15:04 pete_dushenski: !s blockr

05:15:05 assbot: 43 results for 'blockr' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=blockr

05:18:11 pete_dushenski: in other news, "Britain's spy agency the GCHQ has changed its password security guidance in a new document offering sensible advice that, if followed, should harden systems and make life easier for admins and users. The guidance advocates a ban on password strength meters, mandatory resets, and predictable combinations, instead encouraging brute force rate limiting and reduced access controls."

05:18:21 pete_dushenski: "By simplifying your organisation's approach, you can reduce the workload on users, lessen the support burden on IT departments, and combat the false sense of security that unnecessarily complex passwords can encourage."

05:19:12 pete_dushenski: good grief, charlie brown.

05:20:02 pete_dushenski: i honestly hope gchq follows their own recommendations. should make for some good lulz when they get pwned.

05:29:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00073275 = 17.5127 BTC [+] {3}

05:48:28 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo something a little more interesting than a blazer for ya : http://bringatrailer.com/2014/10/20/lexus-v8-swapped-1988-toyota-4runner/

05:48:30 assbot: Lexus V8 Swapped: 1988 Toyota 4Runner | Bring a Trailer ... ( http://bit.ly/1O4UVks )

05:48:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00073884 = 5.1349 BTC [+]

05:48:30 gribble: The operation succeeded.

06:01:20 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski is up late

06:04:59 deedbot-: [Qntra] Qntra's Mascot Dixie Visits Consensus 2015 - http://qntra.net/2015/09/qntras-mascot-dixie-visits-consensus-2015/

06:20:30 cazalla: sheeit, another user an hero's himself http://www.bulletinleader.com/ashley-madison-pastor-commits-suicide/74435/

06:20:31 assbot: Ashley Madison pastor commits suicide » Bulletin Leader ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFkrKd )

06:22:29 pete_dushenski: deedbot-'s back !

06:22:57 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell trinque wd on deedbot-, as ever. any progress with the bitbet integration ?

06:22:57 gribble: The operation succeeded.

06:23:27 pete_dushenski: cazalla: interesting choice to call those coindesk photos as belonging to 'dixie'

06:23:49 pete_dushenski: i get that the bubbles are yours, but why no proper attribution ? say, to the flickr page ?

06:24:52 punkman: "Nishimura estimated that around US$15,000 had been paid to blackmailers targeting Ashley Madison users."

06:24:58 punkman: eh peanuts

06:26:08 pete_dushenski: "...and smart contracts ensure the autism medicine arrives on time." << mega-lol!!

06:26:20 punkman: !up Vexual

06:27:05 Vexual: punkmans more adverse to a query than bulldoig

06:27:16 Vexual: howzit punk?

06:27:46 Vexual: willl you lay an egg if i dcc?

06:28:47 punkman: heatwave's killing me

06:29:02 pete_dushenski: “GoDaddy reasonably relied in good faith on the representations made by the registrants of the Accused Domains stating that the registration of those domains did not violate any third party trademark rights,” he wrote. “As a result, GoDaddy could not have used or trafficked in any of the Accused Domains with a subjective bad faith intent to profit from the AMPAS Marks until such time as GoDaddy received no

06:29:02 pete_dushenski: tice by a third party of a potential issue.”

06:29:03 Vexual: really?

06:29:28 pete_dushenski: nice try, Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences

06:29:37 cazalla: pete_dushenski, asked the rabbit, he said something 'bout face use and fuck coindesk

06:29:47 cazalla: fair use even

06:30:12 pete_dushenski: men lie, women lie, bunnies don't

06:31:03 pete_dushenski: but seriously, that vitalik line had be lol'ing

06:31:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00073216 = 13.2887 BTC [-]

06:32:30 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZu3EUVJ8-4

06:32:30 assbot: Crystal Castles - Untrust Us - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1ii7ZpX )

06:33:37 Vexual: i still like punk

06:35:04 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269820 lol

06:35:04 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 01:42:35; BingoBoingo: Fucking wikisocialism http://www.wikihow.com/Dampen-the-Enthusiasm-of-Your-Neighbors-Who-Want-to-Add-a-New-Fence

06:35:19 punkman: what's this communal fence business

06:35:57 cazalla: how else do you do it punkman ?

06:36:23 punkman: cazalla: you want a fence, you build it and it's none of my business?

06:36:38 Vexual: this

06:37:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40440 @ 0.00073216 = 29.6086 BTC [-] {2}

06:37:35 cazalla: i guess that works, but knocking on ya neighbourinos door and asking if they too think it's time to replace the fence works ok (did this last year)

06:38:15 cazalla: then agian, i live in the 'burbs where people at least try to make their homes presentable

06:38:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1710 @ 0.00073281 = 1.2531 BTC [+]

06:38:59 Vexual: gudDmgr1H3o

06:45:25 Vexual: K8KgP2aOXcA

06:45:38 punkman: cazalla: guess it might make some sense if you know the guy

06:45:38 pete_dushenski: !down Vexual

06:46:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18406 @ 0.00072916 = 13.4209 BTC [-] {4}

06:47:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12344 @ 0.00072647 = 8.9675 BTC [-]

06:48:08 cazalla: http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-is-jihadist-is-actually-an-jewish-american-troll-20150911-gjk852.html lol bravo "Australi Witness's online actions might have had fatal real-world consequences in May. In the leadup to an exhibition in Garland, Texas, at which pictures of the Prophet Mohammed were to be displayed, "Australi Witness" tweeted the event's address and reposted a tweet urging people to go there with "weapons, bombs or wi

06:48:09 assbot: FBI says 'Australian IS jihadist' is actually a Jewish American troll named Joshua Ryne Goldberg ... ( http://bit.ly/1ii9l3W )

06:48:09 cazalla: th knifes".

06:55:08 punkman: https://primitivetechnology.wordpress.com/

06:55:09 assbot: | Making stuff from scratch in the wild ... ( http://bit.ly/1iia0CG )

06:57:52 pete_dushenski: re ^ : wake stan up when guy makes kalash bullets :)

06:58:10 mircea_popescu: hola!

06:58:22 pete_dushenski: ahoy!

06:58:36 pete_dushenski: your stomach has settled ?

06:58:47 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269855 guess that's the usual deal, unless you work for the gov

06:58:47 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:00:18; cazalla: Vexual, nah i left because of some issues with asbestos and then started a new job, but turned out $25 p/h for an 8 hour working day actually meant $25 p/h for first 8 hours, work for next 4 hours for free! (fuck 12 hour days even if it was fully paid)

06:59:01 mircea_popescu: oh man that was brutal.

06:59:36 mircea_popescu: cazalla don't they have overtime where you live ? 8 x 25 + 4 x 50 = 400/day not so bad.

07:00:36 cazalla: yeah, they do, but that was included.. was more like we'll pay you to work 8am-4pm but we need you to work 7am-6pm

07:00:40 cazalla: was not i mean

07:00:56 mircea_popescu: lol australia is that fucked huh.

07:03:27 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/an-hero-is-he/#comment-115298 << for the record i can attest a) that this is worth 20 iq points easyu and b) that about 50% of beatings slavegirls get in their first five years are related to failure to follow this principle / the enforcement of this principle in their head. it's worth it.

07:03:28 assbot: An hero is he... on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lno1pc )

07:09:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8740 @ 0.00073281 = 6.4048 BTC [+]

07:10:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39610 @ 0.00073563 = 29.1383 BTC [+] {2}

07:27:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00072647 = 12.3137 BTC [-]

07:28:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49575 @ 0.00072637 = 36.0098 BTC [-] {3}

07:35:29 pete_dushenski: http://www.oaklandzoo.org/Animal_Art_Show_2015.php

07:35:30 assbot: Oakland Zoo ... ( http://bit.ly/1ERyFrA )

08:25:38 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267867 <<< haha wut. except any lisp is also implemented atop libc, and half the time atop fucking python and some shit. don't throw stones ye of the glass house.

08:25:38 assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:08:46; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267625 << WTF why not counting libc !!!!

08:27:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00072604 = 17.425 BTC [-] {2}

08:28:38 mircea_popescu: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-10/bullying-allegations-against-monash-senior-surgeon-upheld/6766046 << ahjaha jesus fucking christ this is so stupid.

08:28:38 assbot: Bullying allegations against Monash Medical Centre senior surgeon upheld - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXsa3g )

08:28:56 mircea_popescu: who the fuck gives a shit what some inadequate "Imogen Ibbett" felt at any point ?

08:29:02 deedbot-: [fraudsters] The great Nedeflorena show - http://fraudsters.com/2015/the-great-nedeflorena-show/

08:29:07 mircea_popescu: it's a surgery training program not a fucking daycare.

08:31:29 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269560 << honestly it's mildly disappointing to see them mentioned at all. derps did exacly nothing, and failed to even confront their failure. instead they're pretending like it didn't happen and no doubt imaginew this is marketing

08:31:29 assbot: Logged on 10-09-2015 16:45:31; BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/09/coinwallet-turns-stress-test-into-dust-givaway/ << Re: proliferation of weird tx recently

08:31:40 mircea_popescu: and then counting "mentions" as a proof of "success".

08:34:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18507 @ 0.000737 = 13.6397 BTC [+]

08:34:42 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269604 << lol. clearly the usg isn't fudging anything, and anyone who wants to laugh at their inept self-lying has to explain... the something numbers

08:34:42 assbot: Logged on 10-09-2015 18:49:07; mats: >According to the report, some analysts allege that reports deemed overly negative in their assessment of the Syria campaign were either blocked from reaching policymakers or sent back down the chain of command. Others claim that key elements of intelligence reports were removed, fundamentally altering their conclusions.

08:34:53 mircea_popescu: i don't recall what exactrly, ritholz has it.

08:35:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5716 @ 0.00073718 = 4.2137 BTC [+]

08:36:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00073718 = 14.5224 BTC [+]

08:36:43 mircea_popescu: The report alleges that when the analysts' complaints were initially aired, some of those who complained were urged to retire, and did so.

08:36:44 mircea_popescu: bwahahah.

08:36:50 mircea_popescu: they went to work for metansa right alf ?

08:38:10 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... << honestly it's mildly disappointing to see them mentioned at all. derps did exacly nothing, and failed to even confront their failure. instead they're pretending like it didn't happen and no doubt imaginew this is marketing << Honestly this latest failure is probably the end of covering them at all. Some derpy block explorers are claiming hundreds of MB of mempool off of people pushing mega dust collection t

08:38:11 BingoBoingo: x on them, but I don't see any of them even getting relayed here. Really it's like WTF they are letting other people try to clean up the mess they made in the UTXO set.

08:38:29 mircea_popescu: never happened as best i can see

08:38:46 jurov: ;;later tell pete_dushenski done

08:38:46 gribble: The operation succeeded.

08:39:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00072559 = 18.3574 BTC [-] {3}

08:39:23 mircea_popescu: this is more of the "gavin has spoken with experts" / "btcoin business support"/ "xt is going to matter" etc etc verbiage.

08:39:43 mircea_popescu: the completely warantless pretense that some sort of notable forces of the idiotards are you know, right past the horizon ready toi get into the fray

08:39:55 mircea_popescu: i've called the bluff every time, it turned out to be a bluff every time.

08:40:09 mircea_popescu: somehow tho i don't expect a change of strategy. kinda hard to do anything else when got nothing whatsoever.'

08:40:14 BingoBoingo: Oh there's people trying to sweep those private keys, but no one relays that shit anymore. If it wasn't for the fail way they are trying to spam in reverse now, it would be like qntra covering the weather. Instead it's just another loop to make in the rope.

08:42:31 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/lopp/status/642001050564698112?replies_view=true&cursor=APDW4mDZ6Ag << o hey, check you peoples out!

08:43:30 mircea_popescu: jameson Lopp @lopp ? 17h17 hours ago

08:43:30 mircea_popescu: @anarcholiberty @jonmatonis @adam3us @Joi @techreview @qntra is hateful inaccurate propaganda; their useful points are overshadowed by it.

08:43:35 mircea_popescu: who the fuck is jameson lopp ?

08:43:36 davout: mircea_popescu: "If you impaled it's perfect." <<< kek'd

08:43:58 *: mircea_popescu waves

08:44:11 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> who the fuck is jameson lopp ? << 'statoshi' on other forms some herpity derp creature working for BitGo, some wallet thing

08:44:26 mircea_popescu: oh wait, the xt promoter dude ?

08:44:32 BingoBoingo: Yeah

08:44:36 BingoBoingo: One of them

08:44:47 mircea_popescu: awww, it so deeply matters that guy doesn't like qntra

08:44:52 mircea_popescu: i was so totally expecting he would, srsly.

08:44:54 BingoBoingo: Seriousy

08:45:28 *: BingoBoingo has been humming "I didn't start the slander..." to the tune of Billy Joel

08:46:01 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269649 << stresstesting the network eh ?

08:46:01 assbot: Logged on 10-09-2015 20:14:41; shinohai: Thanx mod6. Appears to be all I lost besides an old crummy BTC wallet that only had dust in it.

08:46:17 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos ?

08:46:18 assbot: We Didn't Start the Flame War - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1F0RMiH )

08:46:29 mircea_popescu: except in this case, we did. but anyway.

08:47:15 BingoBoingo: I can't help it if this lopp kid want's to try his hand at slander without the strength of kakobrekla's slanderous soul of legend

08:49:09 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269677 << pass the bong brother.

08:49:09 assbot: Logged on 10-09-2015 21:16:03; mats: assad's regime and isis on the field of battle, with hopes that ru gets to enjoy afghan part 2

08:49:11 punkman: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267867 <<< haha wut. except any lisp is also implemented atop libc << I think there's more than a handful that don't need to touch C at all

08:49:11 assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 12:08:46; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267625 << WTF why not counting libc !!!!

08:49:41 mircea_popescu: punkman on what, the symbolics machine ? that can't even be shipped ?

08:49:42 mircea_popescu: cmon.

08:49:47 punkman: on x86

08:49:54 mircea_popescu: link

08:50:04 punkman: http://picolisp.com/wiki/?home

08:50:05 assbot: PicoLisp Wiki: home ... ( http://bit.ly/1LnvrZu )

08:50:28 punkman: " 64 bit version (written in asm)"

08:50:32 mircea_popescu: o.O

08:50:35 mircea_popescu: i stand impressed.

08:50:46 mircea_popescu: asm lisp, srsly ?

08:50:47 punkman: not sure if you can bootstrap SBCL without any C though

08:51:12 mircea_popescu: There is a 32 bit version (written in C), a 64 bit version (written in asm), a 64-bit emulator as well as a Java version.

08:51:16 *: mircea_popescu has doubts.

08:55:03 deedbot-: [Qntra] Mark Karpelès Charged With Embezzelment in Latest MtGox Criminal Charge - http://qntra.net/2015/09/mark-karpeles-charged-with-embezzelment-in-latest-mtgox-criminal-charge/

08:55:24 BingoBoingo: Title fixed

08:55:39 mircea_popescu: omfg all the nice things ppl say! no wonder i was feeling better later that same day!!1

08:56:06 BingoBoingo: Seriously

08:56:22 BingoBoingo: Also what happened to the food taster who is supposed to prevent these things

08:57:20 mircea_popescu: sometimes i live dangerously!

08:57:27 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270111 <<< how the fuck is that a "College Humour original" when it is an obvios copy of ytmnd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-DMIf-WZYU

08:57:27 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 08:46:17; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos ?

08:57:27 assbot: We Didn't Start This Website (YTMND) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LnvSmS )

08:57:44 mircea_popescu: cazalla i don't thinbk you understand how hot topic works.

08:57:51 BingoBoingo: ^

08:57:59 mircea_popescu: bitcoin is also a mit original technologee.

08:58:06 mircea_popescu: im sorry, "blockchain"

08:58:53 BingoBoingo: College Humor is like a level 2 welfare spammatron. A bit more polished than warrior forum, but still an IAB spam thing.

08:59:14 mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/nyFe8jk.jpg << what the fuck is this sutpid shit

08:59:15 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O4n0IF )

08:59:37 BingoBoingo: Sorry IAC

08:59:38 punkman: fanplanet

09:00:01 mircea_popescu: so what is it, captain plunger ?

09:00:03 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's leik the new bronies

09:00:33 BingoBoingo: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/Minions

09:00:35 assbot: Minions (Western Animation) - TV Tropes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lnw6Ku )

09:01:27 mircea_popescu: sandra bullock ?

09:01:31 mircea_popescu: no fucking wonder i never heard of it.

09:01:34 BingoBoingo: Voice acting

09:01:37 BingoBoingo: But apparently

09:01:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00073718 = 14.7805 BTC [+]

09:02:05 mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/tx/9231f2c2f189cfda4b8e7fa0d16b16a22b9e8da04b8f542cd787116dbefaa450?show_adv=true << BIP100/Mined by haobtckds3

09:02:06 assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 9231f2c2f189cfda4b8e7fa0d16b16a22b9e8da04b8f542cd787116dbefaa450 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lnwfh2 )

09:02:29 BingoBoingo: It's apparently a propaganda film telling children it is ok to be fat, stupid and incompetent. Stuff works out jsut look at reddit.

09:02:59 mircea_popescu: incidentally, i've said this a few times but it readily gets forgotten : coinbase fragmentation is threatening to become a rather serious problem for bitcoin eventually.

09:03:10 mircea_popescu: could be a much stricter limit on scalability than the block size

09:03:50 mircea_popescu: specifically : the total number of bitcoin units of account that can be circulating is 2100000000000000.

09:04:07 mircea_popescu: if we actually get maximal utilization, which means every single unit of account is independent,

09:05:09 mircea_popescu: the system will have to track 2.1 * 10^ 15 items. which, at say half a kb weight each, will cost exabytes to fully move

09:07:22 davout: and at this point transaction fees can't exist anymore

09:07:27 mircea_popescu: exactly.

09:07:41 punkman: gonna need more decimal points

09:07:45 mircea_popescu: there's an entire ugly unspecified state downstream people keep pushing under the rug

09:07:56 mircea_popescu: would really benefit from more discussion and modelling.

09:08:25 mircea_popescu: because you know for a fact as btc will run up to 10k next, the "consumers need this improvement" thing will be lowering the spam limit.

09:08:31 mircea_popescu: which itself is sensible, but wtf does it do ?

09:09:11 mircea_popescu: punkman obviously there are no decimal points. nor were there ever.

09:09:32 punkman: eh more, zeroes then

09:09:40 BingoBoingo: Integers all the way down.

09:09:46 mircea_popescu: this is oft repeatred you know "we'll just add more zeroes"

09:09:50 mircea_popescu: orly ? how ? what will it do ?

09:11:00 davout: scalabitchity

09:11:26 jurov: lol the programming cheerleaders.. i've heard fantastic tales from bygone era in czechoslovakia about female *system* programmers one would literally go for debugging help in the darkest hours

09:11:36 jurov: "she even made me a coffee"

09:11:43 BingoBoingo: Eh, so Satoshi actually invented Bitcoin with too many units. Too much divisibility

09:12:18 mircea_popescu: jurov actually the she-programmers of yugo were famous in romania in the 80s

09:13:17 punkman: "track 2.1 * 10^ 15 items" blocksize limit certainly protects against this

09:13:44 davout: "will cost exabytes to fully move" <<< it's ok because moore's law

09:14:48 punkman: I don't see why adding more zeros isn't possible, nontrivial sure, probably on the order of changing workfunction

09:15:30 mircea_popescu: do you understand what effects it has ?

09:15:52 punkman: haven't really thought about it

09:16:02 mircea_popescu: exactly my point.

09:16:17 mircea_popescu: collectively we've not spent nearly enough thinking about that angle.

09:18:22 BingoBoingo: It may just be that the last 4 digits are there for precision and signalling.

09:18:29 mircea_popescu: possible.

09:18:40 mircea_popescu: currently it works with the last 5 digits pretty much being unusable other than for that.

09:18:53 mircea_popescu: so hgow much can be yielded ? 1 more ? 2 ? 5 ? a full 32 ? a full 64 more ?

09:18:58 punkman: on an unrelated note, I think I have a rough algorithm for dealing with V patch conflicts

09:19:20 mircea_popescu: that should nbe interesting to see

09:19:30 BingoBoingo: Could be we end up with 1 less

09:19:46 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo think about it this way, the spam tx limit is currently worth very little. if it runs up to 10k it will be worth cents.

09:21:00 BingoBoingo: I could see the spam tx limit run up to 100k and be worth dollars

09:21:07 mircea_popescu: and it can not be underscored enough how that is a much larger problem than the recent block size nonsense.

09:21:19 mircea_popescu: here, we discusased "potential users" and the blocks haven't been full etc

09:21:25 BingoBoingo: Seriously this is the shit that needs modeled.

09:21:34 mircea_popescu: there, we'll be discussing "you may not use bitcoin to transfer less than 2.8 dollars' worth"

09:21:43 mircea_popescu: very hugely different sort of limitation on the usage.

09:21:50 BingoBoingo: Indeed

09:23:22 BingoBoingo: at $100k bitcoin we could be talking about no practical way to send less than a crisp hundred dollar bill

09:23:34 mircea_popescu: at least as it is now.

09:24:07 BingoBoingo: But at that point the hundred dollar bill might not be worth a loaf of bread

09:24:20 mircea_popescu: why not ?

09:24:49 BingoBoingo: The Wiemar USistan

09:25:07 mircea_popescu: i doubt it. see, wiemar collapsed because THERE WAS NO currency. at all.

09:25:10 mircea_popescu: here, there's bitcoin

09:25:17 mircea_popescu: it forces the paper and assorted fiats into stability.

09:25:40 mircea_popescu: sorta like the emperor of flies can't happen with an adult present.

09:26:16 davout: what spam limit are you referring to?

09:26:30 mircea_popescu: what was it, 20k

09:27:07 mircea_popescu: 5k ?

09:28:36 davout: the minimum output size?

09:28:41 davout: the dust thing?

09:28:54 mircea_popescu: ya

09:30:53 davout: it's not very clear to me how this thing works

09:31:00 mircea_popescu: which thing ?

09:32:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31393 @ 0.00073424 = 23.05 BTC [-] {3}

09:33:15 mircea_popescu: "Welcome to Bitcoin SIG We are a group of Mensa members who are interested in cryptocurrency and enjoy discussing the developments occurring in this space."

09:33:18 mircea_popescu: ahahahaah o god.

09:33:20 davout: looks like a limit based on the minimum relay fee

09:33:40 davout: but that is only enforced at relay level, and by some miners

09:33:49 davout: it's by no means a hard protocol limit

09:34:10 mircea_popescu: davout for sure not. but it does practically worek to keep tx large enough, and more importantly, coinbases few.

09:34:17 mircea_popescu: only works because btc is not too valuable atm.

09:34:26 mircea_popescu: what happens when this prop is no longer available ?

09:35:36 mircea_popescu: we're, at least to my eyes, in the situation where we've built something against a sleeping rhino. once it gets up and moves, what happens ?

09:36:40 davout: looks to me like this highlights another aspect of the tragedy of the commons thing, because miners don't bear the full cost of a large UTXO, they have no particular incentive to give fee rebates to UTXO-consolidating transactions

09:37:10 mircea_popescu: quite.

09:37:27 mircea_popescu: i think for a while gentmenan-ness will prevail and the consolidaitons will be mined in preference

09:37:32 mircea_popescu: but this is no sort of solution.

09:37:52 mircea_popescu: ie, you'll never have that many legitimate txns that also consolidate. especially as the size opf bitcoin economy increases.

09:38:05 mircea_popescu: by very definition, increased size = fragmentation of coinage.

09:38:37 mircea_popescu: and i suspect the coinbase count will be, going forward, one of the most important metrics of economic health.

09:38:46 mircea_popescu: sorta like replacement for gnp

09:39:49 davout: you mean the spendable outputs?

09:40:02 mircea_popescu: yes.

09:40:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19566 @ 0.00073718 = 14.4237 BTC [+]

09:40:24 mircea_popescu: coinbase count = the number of available inputs.

09:40:41 davout: ah, my definition of coinbase is a spendable output that was not created by spending another output, ie. new money

09:40:50 mircea_popescu: fucking horrid terminology, we really shouldn't be in a situation where input and outpuit means the same thing

09:41:49 mircea_popescu: davout well that's the meaningful sense of the term when you're doing graph traversal and whatnot, cause it's where it starts. but in this context it seemed to me it'd rather mean , "clumps of satoshi available to be spent"

09:41:57 davout: it's an output in the bathroom, it's an input in the bedroom

09:42:13 mircea_popescu: bitcoin is too phalocentric.

09:45:37 BingoBoingo: And now for the Latest out the the MIT Bitcoin Studies department https://i.imgur.com/TwnFjdX.png

09:45:38 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nt6TEx )

09:49:01 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269853 << i'll say tho, warnings have to be specific and useful.

09:49:01 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 02:58:51; assbot: Logged on 28-03-2015 16:35:32; mircea_popescu: mod6 ben_vulpes you think some warnings should be brewed maybe ?

09:49:07 mircea_popescu: "be careful!" is not a warning.

09:49:28 mircea_popescu: "this bear likes to fuck people ; you an tell it's horny by the red patch above its nose" IS a warning.

09:50:35 BingoBoingo: !b 2

09:50:36 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1P513CV.txt )

09:50:59 mircea_popescu: in this context it was specifically re chillum's protests re security practices etc.

09:51:32 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269858 << lol he has it.

09:51:32 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:02:43; Vexual: warning: bitcoin

09:52:14 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269863 << maybe it's not obvious what "no questions asked" means.

09:52:14 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:16:09; pete_dushenski: "Gun control advocates in Tacoma, Wash., are thinking inside the box -- literally -- with a controversial proposal to set up a gun "drop box" to encourage residents to turn in firearms, no questions asked." << "we also advise residents to wipe their guns clean of fingerprints and bodily fluids because we WILL be inspecting each and every firearms for evidence that may be used in any ongoing investiga

09:53:58 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269882 << but, remarkably, not really fuck. and the reason isn't some sort of misplaced propriety

09:53:58 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:24:17; pete_dushenski: "internet companies "across China" are hiring "pretty, talented girls that help create a fun work environment. Dubbed "programming cheerleaders," these young women serve to chit-chat and play Ping-Pong with employees as part of their role."

09:54:07 mircea_popescu: the reason is that fuck is too expensive for the man.

09:57:40 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269902 << so then it's the rifht move ?

09:57:40 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:34:09; asciilifeform: with no gurlz, there is 'flat hierarchy'

09:58:09 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269911 lol was it ?!

09:58:09 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:38:05; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: iirc it was priced, to a penny, to match mircea_popescu conf

09:58:13 *: mircea_popescu wasn't paying attention.

09:59:07 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269922 << you should have seen the indian food.

09:59:07 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:40:23; pete_dushenski: with the cold sandwiches on PAPER plates at 'consensus'.

10:00:26 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269929 << that's rank nonsense, but the exact discussion of why and how "studies" about sicily aren't worth the paper they're printed on is too long for me now

10:00:26 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:47:45; pete_dushenski: ^ from a study of southern italy over past 40 years

10:01:36 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269953 << omfg they didn;'t actually just do that ?!

10:01:36 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 03:58:53; pete_dushenski: ya, ~$30 per month ad infinitum gets you the latest greatest iphone

10:02:29 mircea_popescu: omfg they did. ok, this is the dumbest move apple ever took, or could have taken. the only remainder value in the entire pointless entreprise was the perception of value. this is the texbook way to ruin perception of value : put them on a monthly installment, like fucking diapers.

10:02:44 mircea_popescu: who the fuck commodifies his premium product for boredom o may gawd

10:04:15 mircea_popescu: tim cook is officially retarded.

10:04:51 mircea_popescu: (wtf is this conflation of sales and ops going on at apple anyway)

10:05:10 phf: maybe they realized that iphone is not cool anymore, and switched to milking it for quantity

10:05:20 mircea_popescu: this is the wrong approach to do that.

10:05:41 mircea_popescu: they lost 20bn in brand value for a few million in cash. and they have cash.

10:05:51 mircea_popescu: they should be flowing things the other way around ffs.

10:06:12 punkman: they want wider adoption

10:06:31 mircea_popescu: sigh.

10:06:46 punkman: aye

10:06:58 mircea_popescu: The guidance advocates a ban on password strength meters, mandatory resets, and predictable combinations, instead encouraging brute force rate limiting and reduced access controls." << in other words, "password gimmicks don't work an we're back to ip bans, in a 100% reversal of the fecal consensus of 2005"

10:07:58 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269997 << win. it's regrettable that more "average people" aren't heroes already, srsly.

10:07:58 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 06:20:30; cazalla: sheeit, another user an hero's himself http://www.bulletinleader.com/ashley-madison-pastor-commits-suicide/74435/

10:11:29 mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/09/qntras-mascot-dixie-visits-consensus-2015/ << worst female knees ever omfg what is this, elephantitis ?

10:11:30 assbot: Qntra's Mascot Dixie Visits Consensus 2015 | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QsxeBc )

10:11:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00073718 = 12.5321 BTC [+]

10:11:54 mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/05.jpg how is this possible irl.

10:11:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QsxfoD )

10:12:57 mircea_popescu: mkay that thing was pretty sad.

10:13:15 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You just don't understand how real 'Murican women look

10:13:34 mircea_popescu: dude it;s impossible.

10:13:39 mircea_popescu: i had to check for photochops

10:13:43 mircea_popescu: what the fuck.

10:13:55 mircea_popescu: her knees are bigger than her head.

10:15:12 BingoBoingo: Maybe she has a condishun' like edema or arthritis. Knees aren't engineered to carry that all above above them.

10:16:19 mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/14.jpg <<< is that their high chancellor ? and is that a dildo or a lava lamp in the display behind his chancellorness ?

10:16:20 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QsxErd )

10:16:38 *: mircea_popescu can't readily figure out which of the two is more ridiculous.

10:16:39 BingoBoingo: Why can't it be both?

10:16:45 shinohai: morning, mircea_popescu feeling better today?

10:16:49 mircea_popescu: i suppose lava lamp warms huh

10:16:52 mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah!

10:16:56 BingoBoingo: It does

10:16:58 shinohai: Awesum

10:18:14 cazalla: oops, didnt realise i botched the image links

10:19:17 shinohai: http://qntra.net/2015/09/qntras-mascot-dixie-visits-consensus-2015/ <<< #2 is priceless

10:19:18 assbot: Qntra's Mascot Dixie Visits Consensus 2015 | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QsxeBc )

10:22:11 shinohai: Is that Butterin wearing the Steve Urkel pants for real?

10:28:01 davout: cazalla: your article is incredible

10:28:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65971 @ 0.00073866 = 48.7301 BTC [+] {4}

10:28:43 *: davout 's favourite is the one with gmaxwell

10:29:27 cazalla: aww that might be overstating it just a tad

10:33:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.0007395 = 17.3043 BTC [+]

10:33:48 davout: "$1,500 for this shit?"

10:42:12 shinohai: I wonder if the jester is aware of the irony of his latest tweet today https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/642278738848292864

10:42:37 shinohai: LOL deleted

10:43:47 shinohai: https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/642279871624949760

10:52:43 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/relationships-and-special-occasions/columns/dear-abby/teen-too-busy-with-college-ignores-dangers-of-diabetes/article_e96d42bd-f13f-5585-ab5e-318ed83c06ae.html << 19 year old Obeast with the Beetus

10:52:47 assbot: Teen too busy with college ignores dangers of diabetes : Lifestyles ... ( http://bit.ly/1K00BGr )

10:54:25 BingoBoingo: Eat moar corn

10:58:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31557 @ 0.0007395 = 23.3364 BTC [+]

11:00:13 shinohai: Also, get off fat ass and exercise moar.

11:39:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17245 @ 0.0007395 = 12.7527 BTC [+]

11:39:20 mircea_popescu: so the list of places where obama can still show up consists of... fort meade ?

11:39:29 BingoBoingo: prolly

11:49:33 mircea_popescu: http://finance.yahoo.com/video/bill-ackman-stocks-pretty-cheap-110400417.html

11:49:36 assbot: Bill Ackman: Stocks are pretty cheap | Watch the video - Yahoo Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULagpt )

11:50:50 shinohai: https://www.propublica.org/article/library-support-anonymous-internet-browsing-effort-stops-after-dhs-email <<< LOL

11:50:52 assbot: First Library to Support Tor Anonymous Internet Browsing Effort Stops After DHS Email - ProPublica ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULaooS )

12:00:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00074042 = 5.5532 BTC [+]

12:01:33 mircea_popescu: how goes PinkPosixPXE

12:03:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00074038 = 17.0287 BTC [-]

12:06:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61608 @ 0.00074062 = 45.6281 BTC [+] {3}

12:07:37 mircea_popescu: "Great Job, Everyone! Bitcoiners are DDoSing Bitcoin (motherboard.vice.com)"

12:07:50 mircea_popescu: except no, gavin's scamcoin is not bitcoin, and no, vice is not news.

12:09:26 shinohai: lol. XT camp takes it as a sign they have already won the game obviously.

12:10:06 mircea_popescu: Blythe Masters says US lags in blockchain use (ft.com) / Over $60 million in funding raised for bitcoin companies this week alone. / bla bla << "To sum up : what we have so far are a few millions invested in hopeless start-ups that have no talent, no business model, aren't solving a problem and generally speaking don't exist other than as a tag on an orange calling it a potato." / http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-future-of-

12:10:08 assbot: The future of Bitcoin regulation on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULcfKf )

12:10:08 mircea_popescu: bitcoin-regulation/#selection-107.0-107.235

12:10:45 mircea_popescu: the boat's still missed. but i gotta say it's fucking hysterical to obvserve the US as a society behaves collectively exactly like every ustard individually. haughty pretense at first, desperate flailing once it's too late.

12:10:55 mircea_popescu: would have been so fucking hard to submit and obey in 2013, rly.

12:12:19 mircea_popescu: Deloitte to audit to BitEx.la Bitcoin exchange, the first of its kind in Argentina and possibly in the world for a market of Bitcoin << except a) it doesn't actually exist and b) all of the fucking nopes already, wtf.

12:12:29 mircea_popescu: how many of these throwaway items have we seen so far.

12:14:21 BingoBoingo: Seriously that noise is the hardest part about qntra

12:14:43 mircea_popescu: also...http://www.malla.ee/?p=167

12:14:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11392 @ 0.0007407 = 8.4381 BTC [+]

12:14:52 mircea_popescu: Website is rising up!

12:15:44 mircea_popescu: as soon as they are ready, the reservation system and Bitcoin integration should be ready also.

12:15:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15713 @ 0.00074038 = 11.6336 BTC [-]

12:15:54 mircea_popescu: best bitcoin troll ever.

12:16:30 BingoBoingo: Oh, tortilla's place?

12:17:07 punkman: still with the photoshopped facade http://www.malla.ee/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/etukuva.png

12:17:09 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULcSUi )

12:19:21 mircea_popescu: ya

12:19:27 shinohai: Related to mircea_popescu 's article: http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-09-11

12:19:28 assbot: Value Of A Start Up Idea - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-09-11 | Dilbert by Scott Adams ... ( http://bit.ly/1KICW31 )

12:19:31 mircea_popescu: http://www.mois.ee/pic_viru/malla_tag.jpg moarlike

12:19:56 shinohai: hanbot strikes again

12:20:11 punkman: fluffypony: how did the castle look when you visited?

12:20:20 mircea_popescu: honestly i think the decrepit reality looks muchg better than the mcmanshion candy-cane photochop

12:20:32 mircea_popescu: just, not really as a hotel. pretty decent setting for a remake of diabolique tho

12:21:35 phf: haunted mansion night for two, complete with victorian meal, costumed entertainment. BTC accepted

12:22:10 mircea_popescu: "I listed my castle for sale. If I manage to flip now, even at a slight fiat loss, I would have gained 3x the bitcoins in a year. Decent trade, huh?"

12:22:11 mircea_popescu: awww...

12:22:25 mircea_popescu: and if he just sat on the silver or w/e it was... but no matter.

12:22:43 mircea_popescu: phf you know they supposedly have those torture hotels in tokyo

12:23:15 phf: authentic Cube experience

12:25:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19714 @ 0.00074002 = 14.5888 BTC [-] {2}

12:25:42 mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/0TTX2CN << somebody cribbed the wrong part off b-a logs

12:25:43 assbot: dpaste: 0TTX2CN ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULdDgb )

12:25:54 phf: you would know better, are there "bdsm" hotels? in the style of those italian "discipline" comics, with pony waitresses and a strict madame running the place

12:25:59 mircea_popescu: how can these people be that retarded srsly ? dump random txn ? that's the plan ?

12:26:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.00073422 = 23.1646 BTC [-]

12:26:29 mircea_popescu: phf yeah, they exist like buenos aires night life exists.

12:26:46 punkman: heh

12:26:55 mircea_popescu: if you're working a boring dayjob and need that fantasy to get out of bed in the morning.

12:29:22 mircea_popescu: also http://upalc.com/

12:29:54 phf: with japanese salarimen from the 80s doing company retreats

12:31:00 mircea_popescu: http://upalc.com/online-money.php << pretty canonical come to think of it.

12:31:00 assbot: Online Money Making Strategy ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULe5uH )

12:31:12 mircea_popescu: "11. Don't know a thing? No worries you are not alone, but that shouldn't stop you from blogging as it doesn't stop others, you can still make money just by blogging on topics that are interesting"

12:32:47 phf: that looks like a subtle troll, like an updated version of jeff k.

12:33:55 shinohai: lol I posted that link last night, such lolz

12:34:07 mircea_popescu: aha

12:34:11 shinohai: He argues for "intelligent design" a lot

12:35:50 phf: mircea_popescu: i took your fraudsters recommendation to visit istanbul, this place is indeed fantastic

12:36:12 mircea_popescu: o hey!

12:36:25 mircea_popescu: have a shishkebap for me.

12:37:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30356 @ 0.00073073 = 22.182 BTC [-] {2}

12:38:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18544 @ 0.00072542 = 13.4522 BTC [-] {2}

12:38:28 phf: plenty of that, also fresh fish. my american girl is finally convinced that there's something fundamentally wrong with u.s. food supply

12:38:49 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/zfLcA20.jpg << there's something coallescing in my head here. basically, the us bet on india against china. and lost.

12:38:49 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULeXiY )

12:39:20 mircea_popescu: phf do her knees look like http://qntra.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/05.jpg ?

12:39:21 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QsxfoD )

12:39:35 mircea_popescu: (who the fuck told those women to wear overknee skirts, srsly now)

12:41:48 phf: no, i showed her pictures from consensus though, as a reminder, she double down on her studies of turkish language

12:42:04 mircea_popescu: lol

12:42:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21187 @ 0.00073169 = 15.5023 BTC [+]

12:42:55 BingoBoingo: http://www.theonion.com/article/nations-marketers-only-people-still-trying-reach-i-51278

12:42:56 assbot: Nation’s Marketers Only People Still Trying To Reach Inner-City Child - The Onion - America's Finest News Source ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULfm4Y )

12:46:12 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/C32nz << "Well, since a ton is 2000 pounds and Fat Activists tends to have their mortality increase rapidly after 500 pounds, we can conclude there are 3-6 Fat activists to the ton."

12:46:13 assbot: evylllint comments on I hope this is OK because I have to get this off my chest. I'm an accountant and was hired by one of the most prominent Fat Acceptance activists. Wow. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KIFoqd )

12:52:45 BingoBoingo: Champion's Towing and Recovery of Columbus Mississippi is the most persistent comment spammer I've ever seen for such a niche meatspace business.

12:53:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00073169 = 22.5361 BTC [+]

12:54:05 shinohai: Can anyone here recommend a decent laptop with backlit keyboard ?

12:56:19 *: mircea_popescu has thinkpads. amd inside.

12:58:00 shinohai: I miss my thinkpad, trying to get a friend in Indiana to sell me one of his old ones.

12:58:14 mircea_popescu: no backlit tho

12:59:02 shinohai: I'll take the tradeoff, I have a soft spot for older computers.

13:00:26 shinohai: Guy has fucktons of old servers and equipment. I had him look through his stash for that godsurge chip.

13:01:25 mircea_popescu: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y02/03c-the-myth-of-software-engineering.html

13:01:26 assbot: The Tar Pit - The myth of "software engineering" ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULhslr )

13:05:43 punkman: "This isn’t to say that there aren’t large systems that can be formally specified: Bitcoin is one such example."

13:05:55 punkman: what spec lol

13:12:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00073124 = 15.356 BTC [-]

13:16:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33814 @ 0.00073169 = 24.7414 BTC [+]

13:17:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00073124 = 3.6562 BTC [-]

13:27:03 PinkPosixPXE: hey mircea_popescu, doing pretty good, been busy with the new job, how are you?

13:30:50 asciilifeform: wb mircea_popescu

13:33:05 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270064 << dear glub. sorry mircea_popescu, not even sure which part of this fiction to begin with !

13:33:05 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 08:25:38; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267867 <<< haha wut. except any lisp is also implemented atop libc, and half the time atop fucking python and some shit. don't throw stones ye of the glass house.

13:33:25 asciilifeform: 1) you will never see 'lisp on python' outside of a school classroom

13:34:54 asciilifeform: 2) sbcl and other adult commonlisps a) use c version for bootstrapping, which is to say, compiling self to a legit 100% self-shat executable --- but they will link with libc for unix terminal i/o, sockets, etc

13:35:26 asciilifeform: b) plenty of lisps, of various descriptions, mainly but not exclusively 'scheme' implementations, written in 100% asm from the ground

13:35:49 asciilifeform: e.g., the very same mulisp discussed in the 'derive.exe' thread; 'dream' (x86 and later x86_64 scheme implementation;) and others

13:39:47 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270083 << l0l mircea_popescu, everybody knows (tm) that metansa would never contain something so pedestrian as a report-writer, much less one who interfaced with something as boring as a politician. it is 100% people who break rsa, devise single-transistor backdoors to plant in intel, devise 'natural disease mimicking' poisons, etc.

13:39:47 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 08:36:50; mircea_popescu: they went to work for metansa right alf ?

13:40:10 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/9wt61nh.jpg <<< Never forget

13:40:30 asciilifeform: aha.

13:40:48 asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/7kDXs.jpg

13:40:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KfeO5Y )

13:40:59 asciilifeform: ^ my personal favourite

13:43:04 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270090 << hey, it worked for killing linux! that is, it is alive, but on what, 100 boxes, and the rest happily run shituntu and subscribe to autoupdates, happily run usg binaries, etc.

13:43:04 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 08:39:23; mircea_popescu: this is more of the "gavin has spoken with experts" / "btcoin business support"/ "xt is going to matter" etc etc verbiage.

13:43:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34450 @ 0.00073296 = 25.2505 BTC [+] {2}

13:44:16 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270129 << sure you can. all you need is another common lisp ! doesn't matter from where, or running on what

13:44:16 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 08:50:47; punkman: not sure if you can bootstrap SBCL without any C though

13:44:28 asciilifeform: come on folks, compilation is not magic.

13:44:52 asciilifeform: and 'c' is most certainly not magical. just a piss-poor macro assembler of a kind.

13:45:17 punkman: asciilifeform: I just read that SBCL has 20k lines of C

13:45:34 asciilifeform: punkman: sure does. mainly for building bootstrapper. but also for unix i/o

13:45:38 asciilifeform: as described earlier.

13:46:21 punkman: so if I want to bootstrap SBCL on say picolisp, how much of that C do I have to rewrite?

13:46:30 asciilifeform: picolisp is NOT A COMMONLISP

13:46:38 asciilifeform: has, for fucks sake, dynamic scope

13:46:44 asciilifeform: NOT ALL LISPS ARE THE SAME

13:46:58 asciilifeform: picolisp is less similar to common lisp than 'c' is to 'pascal'

13:47:22 punkman: ok, on dream or mulisp or other then

13:47:25 asciilifeform: ditto

13:47:30 asciilifeform: 'dream' is a 'scheme';

13:47:30 phf: you could target picolisp from sbcl, same way as you're right now targeting the unix to common lisp machine abstraction layer, that's written in c

13:47:35 asciilifeform: mulisp is its own creature

13:47:54 asciilifeform: aha phf has it. but n00bz always assume that lisps are interchangeable

13:47:56 asciilifeform: they are not.

13:48:47 asciilifeform: it is important to know why items such as picolisp and mulisp exist - compactness. (and to a lesser extent, 'fits in head'.)

13:49:28 asciilifeform: 'targeting' them as if they were c-machine arch would result in a terrific blob of unreadable shit

13:49:36 asciilifeform: which will yes, run

13:49:45 asciilifeform: but kinda defeats the purpose of the exercise.

13:51:39 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270165 << and if every man, woman, child, dog, cat, in china, got on a stool and jumped at once...

13:51:39 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:04:07; mircea_popescu: if we actually get maximal utilization, which means every single unit of account is independent,

13:52:21 asciilifeform: this is rather like supposing that all gold on planet will one day be split into individual atoms on account of its scarcity, no ?

13:53:11 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270170 << there is considerably more ugly in the fact that the actual meaning of the system IS NOT SPECIFIED because NOBODY ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT the crap does - esp. bdb, openssl, etc

13:53:11 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:07:45; mircea_popescu: there's an entire ugly unspecified state downstream people keep pushing under the rug

13:54:33 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270180 << dun worry jurov, su is dead & buried and its heresies, such as installing brains in (some) chicks, are likewise fading

13:54:33 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:11:26; jurov: lol the programming cheerleaders.. i've heard fantastic tales from bygone era in czechoslovakia about female *system* programmers one would literally go for debugging help in the darkest hours

13:55:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00073396 = 10.8993 BTC [+]

13:55:40 asciilifeform: jurov: that is, you can still find one with brain installed, but it has to be naturally-occurring. which, sure, go and wait for the natural fission reactor. THERE IS ONE ! geologists found it! somewhere in africa.

13:56:45 asciilifeform: then again jurov is fortunate in not being personally concerned with this matter, just as eagle does not concern himself with muddy roads...

13:57:34 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270183 << and in more or less the whole su colonial world

13:57:34 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:12:18; mircea_popescu: jurov actually the she-programmers of yugo were famous in romania in the 80s

13:57:42 phf: my grandmother worked in my grandfather's department, designing analogue circuits, and it wasn't some contrived "women in engineering", simply something she was good enough at to get hired into "оборонка"

13:57:52 asciilifeform: ^ aha this was sop

13:59:10 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270211 << there was gold, foreign currencies, no ?

13:59:10 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:25:07; mircea_popescu: i doubt it. see, wiemar collapsed because THERE WAS NO currency. at all.

13:59:43 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270214 << easily, if the adult is a demented bugger goading the idiots on

13:59:43 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:25:40; mircea_popescu: sorta like the emperor of flies can't happen with an adult present.

14:02:55 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270248 << win. needs to be expanded to poem

14:02:55 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:41:57; davout: it's an output in the bathroom, it's an input in the bedroom

14:04:14 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270266 << if you want your employees to fight to the death, yes, throw in the chix

14:04:14 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 09:57:40; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1269902 << so then it's the rifht move ?

14:04:22 asciilifeform: so depends 'right move' ~for what~

14:06:22 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270278 << mircea_popescu appears to have slept through the total obliteration of whatever 'premium' status ipNohe had. i often go into town on weekends on the train. there is literally no one too ragged, too ethnic, whatever, to be playing with apple gadget, often more than one. literally, stinking bums have'em, and had for years.

14:06:22 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 10:02:44; mircea_popescu: who the fuck commodifies his premium product for boredom o may gawd

14:07:57 asciilifeform: now, what you often ~will~ see is folks, esp. females, playing with iphone ~with cracked glass~. this tells you that a) almost certainly owner got it 'via contract', which is to say as a slave collar from the telco; and b) cannot remotely afford to pay the thing's retail price to replace it

14:08:33 asciilifeform: but there are folks who know how to change the glass, and it is inexpensive; hell, i did it myself for a few personal friends back in the day

14:08:41 asciilifeform: ~this~ is the racket apple would like to roll up

14:08:41 kakobrekla: "i can show you i sleep in a shoebox in the middle of the street on my iphone"

14:08:55 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: laugh but i have personally witnessed hobos with iphone.

14:09:06 kakobrekla: i know its true.

14:10:07 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270279 << but this is not why.

14:10:07 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 10:04:15; mircea_popescu: tim cook is officially retarded.

14:10:45 kakobrekla: the only way you dont have a bumphone is if you have the latest one.

14:10:50 kakobrekla: in their view.

14:10:54 asciilifeform: (items like $3k laptops where the screen cracks two weeks after purchase, and THEY WON'T TAKE IT BACK, are why. that kind of thing is not forgotten, not forgiven. if the alternative were not microshit, apple would already be dead.)

14:16:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34150 @ 0.00073899 = 25.2365 BTC [+] {3}

14:20:34 phf: i was in moscow few weeks after iphone 5 release and saw status games golden youth would play with it, polished girls coyly extracting iphones to pretense that bought it in new york just last week, iphones on tables at expensive cafes, etc. i've seen more iphones over a weekend out then in moscow then i've ever in the states. nothing like that was happening after 6 came out, of course it's my impressions, but i think 5 to 6 period was the p

14:20:35 phf: eek for apple

14:20:45 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270419 << this leads to one neglected unix script tool which one could easily implement 'v' in a few lines - 'gnu make' !

14:20:45 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 13:01:25; mircea_popescu: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y02/03c-the-myth-of-software-engineering.html

14:22:06 asciilifeform: phf: go on train, bus, where everyone is bored, in usa. 9 ipnohe to 1 turdroid, at times.

14:22:28 asciilifeform: (boredom lures the pnohes out of pockets and to where you can see them)

14:22:58 asciilifeform: if there was something 'statusy' about it, this disappeared in 2009 or earlier.

14:24:18 *: asciilifeform bbl.

14:26:35 phf: asciilifeform: this stuff seems more pronounced further away you are from фабрика грез. i'm sure you'd still be the coolest boy on the block with an iphone in kerala

14:27:23 kakobrekla: need more bumphones in africa so they can use ze blockchain

14:28:28 phf: fingers crossed xt ios app will be ready by the time africa is the last remaining apple market

14:32:33 punkman: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/11/north-korea-army-life-defector-question

14:32:34 assbot: Ask a North Korean: what's life like in the army? | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1F1CeLH )

14:35:20 phf: "hookah is coming -- you pack it here? -- he go elsewhere, we don't like say no" what a nice country

14:37:55 pete_dushenski: jurov: cheers !

14:38:23 punkman: phf, bringing hookah from other shop down the stree?

14:38:26 punkman: *street

14:41:00 shinohai: o/ pete_dushenski

14:41:49 pete_dushenski: gooood morning

14:43:09 punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34210002

14:43:10 assbot: Travelling to work 'is work', European court rules - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1F1DrTg )

14:45:21 pete_dushenski: ^ obviously

14:45:37 pete_dushenski: for contractors, certainly.

14:46:08 pete_dushenski: for salaried employees who work 9-5 in a cubicle, obviously not.

14:46:15 pete_dushenski: actually seems like a sane ruling to me.

14:46:53 pete_dushenski: and this is certainly the way i'm billed whenever i have a contractor fix something on a property. travel time is always included.

14:48:43 shinohai: I always got to include travel time in my former employment, but only "to" job site and not the return trip.

14:49:17 pete_dushenski: half is better than nothing ?

14:49:33 pete_dushenski: "Jews who were citizens of Germany’s allies lived or died according to certain general rules. Jews who maintained their prewar citizenship usually lived, and those who did not usually died…Jews from territories that changed hands were usually murdered. Jews almost never survived if they remained on territories where the Soviet Union had been exercising power when German or Romanian forces arrived…In all,

14:49:34 pete_dushenski: about seven hundred thousand Jews who were citizens of Germany’s allies were killed. Yet a higher number survived. This is a dramatic contrast to the lands where the state was destroyed, where almost all Jews were killed."

14:49:58 pete_dushenski: basically, be hungarian, not estonian

14:53:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10763 @ 0.00073978 = 7.9623 BTC [+]

14:53:44 pete_dushenski: in other news, "the Agriculture Department announced this morning that 48 million Americans live in “food insecure” households."

14:53:58 pete_dushenski: "“Food insecurity” is a statistic designed to mislead. USDA defines food insecurity as being “uncertain of having, or unable to acquire, enough food to meet the needs of all their members because they had insufficient money or other resources for food.”"

14:54:14 pete_dushenski: "The definition of “food insecure” includes anyone who frets about not being able to purchase food at any point. If someone states that they feared running out of food for a single day (but didn’t run out), that is an indicator of being “food insecure” for the entire year — regardless of whether they ever missed a single meal. If someone wants organic kale but can afford only conventional kale, that

14:54:14 pete_dushenski: is another “food insecure” indicator."

14:55:23 pete_dushenski: gotta love those statist stats. what would we do if we knew that poor people were fat and poor because we were redistributing wealth so as to ensure that they stay that way in perpetuity ?

15:02:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00074187 = 5.7866 BTC [+]

15:03:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16547 @ 0.00074203 = 12.2784 BTC [+] {2}

15:12:19 punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/10/north_korea_exploits_zero_day_in_seouls_favourite_word_doc/

15:12:20 assbot: North Korea exploits 0-day in Seoul's favourite word processor • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1FBQo0R )

15:16:02 phf: punkman: yes, not for purchase though, to smoke. he ran to a different location, packed it there, brought here, and then proceeded to refresh coals by repeating the process

15:16:31 phf: what smoking permits

15:46:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11754 @ 0.00074204 = 8.7219 BTC [+]

15:55:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111517 @ 0.00074393 = 82.9608 BTC [+] {7}

15:57:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00074137 = 12.974 BTC [-]

16:17:47 funkenstein_: http://3.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/b/-/bustedtees.57137f3b-8a5b-489e-a756-2f8bb616.jpg

16:17:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULUt9T )

16:19:11 funkenstein_: 6bdr_2IAJWU <-- mos def, immortal technique, eminem

16:20:00 funkenstein_: !rate cazalla 1 respecable journalist

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16:20:40 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for cazalla with note: respecable journalist

16:22:04 funkenstein_: one more for you on a lighter note http://i.imgur.com/uahrPfW.gifv

16:22:05 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1iCHbRh )

16:22:53 pete_dushenski: lel

16:24:22 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

16:24:25 ascii_field: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/10/james-clapper-pentagon-military-official

16:24:26 assbot: US spy chief's 'highly unusual' reported contact with military official raises concerns | US news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULW0gb )

16:26:11 pete_dushenski: "James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, is said to talk nearly every day with the head of US Central Command’s intelligence wing, Army Brigadier General Steven Grove – “which is highly, highly unusual”, according to a former intelligence official." << it brings a tear to mine eye to see these bureaucrats breaking down barriers like this. *sniff*

16:27:41 pete_dushenski: in other news, http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/11/how-to-be-a-feminazi-feminist

16:27:42 assbot: 10 ways you can tell if you’re a ‘feminazi’ | Laura Bates | Comment is free | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1EStbgg )

16:28:10 shinohai: Step 1. Sign up for Reddit and tumblr

16:28:38 pete_dushenski: step 2. steal socks. step 3... step 4. reparations!

16:30:55 shinohai: I wonder if the author of that article would be mad if I made a masturbation pun on her name.

16:33:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 10305 @ 0.00009778 = 1.0076 BTC [+] {4}

16:33:47 pete_dushenski: shinohai: not like she'll ever read the logs. have at 'er :)

16:34:28 shinohai: Unless I make them red in the face, where's the fun?

16:40:13 shinohai: I never knew this goldmine existed: http://biddaters.com/auction-list/

16:40:15 assbot: Auctions Archive - Biddaters.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULYfjt )

16:48:07 pete_dushenski: looks to be ~$1/lb as a going rate, shockingly, exactly like in that fraudsters article

16:48:42 ascii_field: 'Yes, opium was a murderous agent in our blood streams. Yes, we were addicted. But we gained a gravelly tone that made friends’ poetry recitations bearable. If we expired bit by bit, we were comfortable in our growing numbness. Opium eased away frustrations and failings. This was a traditional addiction respectful of our history, of traditions that allowed us to go with the flow as we socialised around glowing charcoa

16:48:42 ascii_field: l trays. Lethal, yes, but slow and relaxed – almost spiritual.'

16:49:02 ascii_field: (vintage article, where persian supposedly laments the coming of new dope to replace old, http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/may/13/crystal-meth-tehrans-new-drug-of-choice )

16:49:03 assbot: Crystal meth: 'Walk a little way in any direction and buy it for a trifle' | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULZorm )

16:50:25 shinohai: pete_dushenski: my mind instantly thought of that fraudsters article lol

16:50:35 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/4HFAd86.jpg <<< crapple lolz

16:50:36 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULZCP5 )

16:50:56 pete_dushenski: shinohai: can you find it ? i can't !

16:51:24 shinohai: This one? http://fraudsters.com/2015/fetlife-the-meat-market/

16:51:25 assbot: Fetlife, the meat market on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ULZI9D )

16:51:51 pete_dushenski: nah, think it mighta been 'battlefield of the future'

16:52:15 shinohai: hrmm ...

16:52:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.0007394 = 25.2135 BTC [-] {4}

16:53:00 shinohai: Think that was 2014 archive

16:54:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00073616 = 18.7353 BTC [-]

16:55:43 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

16:55:47 ascii_field: https://cryptome.org/2015/09/potus-15-0911.pdf >>> http://dpaste.com/1CT56Q8 <<< pure gold

16:55:49 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM0inA )

16:55:50 assbot: dpaste: 1CT56Q8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM0inL )

16:57:39 shinohai: lol ascii_field so I guess I can't let my guard down.

16:57:47 shinohai: National emergencies and all.

16:57:54 punkman: why haven't they made the emergency permanent yet?

17:00:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00073233 = 21.384 BTC [-] {2}

17:02:17 shinohai: That we should mirror ancient Rome, suspend democracy and give Obama sole power to defend our borders.

17:04:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29390 @ 0.00073055 = 21.4709 BTC [-] {2}

17:04:36 funkenstein_: choke off all commerce with more fascism, great idea

17:04:42 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270540 << also the peculiarly american conflation of various industrial waste for 'food'

17:04:42 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 14:55:23; pete_dushenski: gotta love those statist stats. what would we do if we knew that poor people were fat and poor because we were redistributing wealth so as to ensure that they stay that way in perpetuity ?

17:06:17 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270543 << run moar winblowz ! 'backdoor dubbed PeachPit which is pinned on North Korean-based attackers.' << why not pinned on redmond, washington ?

17:06:17 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 15:12:19; punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/10/north_korea_exploits_zero_day_in_seouls_favourite_word_doc/

17:06:53 funkenstein_: lol hotus potus

17:09:36 pete_dushenski: "So run off to the bathroom, strip naked and weigh yourself. Pork bellies go for ~$1 per pound, and so do you (provided you were frozen, trimmed, and added up to enough of your peers to make a 18`000 kg package)." << http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/#selection-133.273-133.484

17:09:37 assbot: The battlefield of the future on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM248j )

17:09:45 pete_dushenski: shinohai: ^

17:09:59 ascii_field: vast exaggeration - no one would buy pork of this quality, not for a penny a pound

17:10:36 ascii_field: pig fed human shit - is edible. china, 5000+ yrs. pig fed industrial waste - no.

17:11:54 pete_dushenski: mebbe girl eats organic

17:12:03 pete_dushenski: why not

17:14:45 ascii_field: difficult to become 'planet' on actual food

17:16:40 pete_dushenski: well, no one's buying planets now are they, not even mr. musk

17:17:21 shinohai: thx pete_dushenski

17:17:36 ascii_field: just pointing out that the people pictured in BingoBoingo's links did not get the way they are by eating actual food

17:17:41 shinohai: Approprite quote :D

17:18:17 shinohai: Nor did they make that conference by using actual bitcoin.

17:18:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5405 @ 0.0007296 = 3.9435 BTC [-]

17:23:49 pete_dushenski: bbl

17:25:51 ascii_field: http://www.toomandre.com/my-articles/engeduc/cartoons/FEMINIST.GIF << by toom, of toom-cook multiplication algo !!

17:25:56 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmxMZj )

17:26:05 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

17:26:22 ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.toomandre.com << toom of toom-cook algo. teaches in brazil.

17:26:23 assbot: Home page of Andre Toom, Andrei Toom ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmxRvT )

17:26:23 gribble: The operation succeeded.

17:27:57 ascii_field: http://www.toomandre.com/my-articles/engeduc/index.htm >> e.g., http://www.toomandre.com/my-articles/engeduc/Shanker.pdf >> http://dpaste.com/3JY6ENM

17:27:58 assbot: English Educ ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM4HqJ )

17:28:02 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM4HHj )

17:28:03 assbot: dpaste: 3JY6ENM ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM4HHn )

17:28:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00072891 = 6.9975 BTC [-]

17:28:23 ascii_field: 'Please inform Mr. Toom about the grading system and instruction methods of THIS country.:.. I earned a grade of A in my college algebra and trigonometry courses so it makes no sense for me to be doing so poorly in this course. Please straighten this man out.'

17:29:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16955 @ 0.0007296 = 12.3704 BTC [+]

17:29:31 ascii_field: http://dpaste.com/0HCN3ZM << another good piece by him, de-pdfized

17:29:33 assbot: dpaste: 0HCN3ZM ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM4V12 )

17:29:50 ascii_field: (original - http://www.toomandre.com/my-articles/engeduc/Wars.pdf )

17:29:53 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UM4WlG )

17:30:09 shinohai: Someone has an inflated sense of entitlement.

17:32:12 ascii_field: http://www.toomandre.com/travel/BEARS.GIF << mega-illustration of life.

17:32:13 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmysxN )

17:35:50 trinque: pete_dushenski: where's the >1BTC bet feed?

17:36:00 trinque: doesn't make sense to me to add special logic for a single RSS feed

17:38:37 shinohai: Very apt comic ascii_field

17:41:57 trinque: they taught us the quadratic formula in middle school using a goddamn nursery song tune

17:42:00 trinque: "row your boat"

17:42:30 trinque: junior high I guess it was, 6th or 7th

17:42:59 trinque: in re: ascii_field's 0HCN3ZM

17:44:23 shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3kiv90/eth_is_dumping_hard_why_whats_the_bad_news/cuxs1qd

17:44:24 assbot: ericcart comments on ETH is dumping HARD, why? What's the bad news? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NmAttG )

17:46:24 punkman: poloniex does margin now?

17:48:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.0007372 = 29.3406 BTC [+]

17:48:48 shinohai: Have been for a few months I think.

18:02:11 shinohai: !up ascii_field

18:02:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32981 @ 0.00074152 = 24.4561 BTC [+] {3}

18:03:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7419 @ 0.00074532 = 5.5295 BTC [+]

18:09:17 fluffypony: punkman

18:09:22 fluffypony: I uploaded photos

18:09:29 fluffypony: http://imgur.com/a/cl6XH

18:09:30 assbot: Malla - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1UMaNY7 )

18:09:39 fluffypony: that was what it looked like in June 2014

18:10:53 fluffypony: those were the ones I took on my phone, I have other pics (somewhere) I took with my camera

18:11:16 trinque: truly filthy laptop

18:11:18 *: trinque shudders

18:30:58 trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/11/us-mideast-syria-russia-idUSKCN0RB0ZD20150911 << here comes the pressure

18:30:59 assbot: Russia to U.S.: talk to us on Syria or risk 'unintended incidents' | Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1UMdAAG )

18:31:47 trinque: "They will train to repulse an attack from the air and to defend the coast, which means firing artillery and testing short-range air defense systems, " the source said, adding that the exercise had been agreed with the Syrian government. << might as well have said "against US airstrikes"

18:40:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00073375 = 19.9947 BTC [-]

18:47:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25756 @ 0.00073059 = 18.8171 BTC [-] {3}

19:01:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24029 @ 0.00073446 = 17.6483 BTC [+]

19:03:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16955 @ 0.00073754 = 12.505 BTC [+]

19:15:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00074531 = 9.2418 BTC [+] {2}

19:22:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00074624 = 30.0735 BTC [+] {6}

19:24:54 shinohai: Nice album fluffypony

19:25:03 fluffypony: tks

19:37:04 mats: what a crowd

19:38:00 mats: graphic t shirts, bowties, hoodies, suits

19:39:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00074868 = 9.0216 BTC [+]

19:39:17 shinohai: Where mats?

19:40:08 mats: fluffy's album

19:41:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82250 @ 0.00074868 = 61.5789 BTC [+]

19:43:45 shinohai: Oh xD

19:43:56 shinohai: I need a drink, what a stressful day.

19:45:16 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:45:43 ascii_field: ;;later tell jurov last night i saw operetta version of 'r.u.r.' at czech embassy. it was spiffy

19:45:43 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:54:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89282 @ 0.00073555 = 65.6714 BTC [-] {6}

20:07:58 mircea_popescu: PinkPosixPXE i'm fine now! weren't you going to do a dc at some point ? :D

20:08:20 *: mircea_popescu trolls ascii_field more.

20:08:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29550 @ 0.00074868 = 22.1235 BTC [+]

20:08:42 ascii_field: l0lwat

20:11:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31422 @ 0.00073726 = 23.1662 BTC [-]

20:12:06 mircea_popescu: so listen ascii_field is it true sexpr were mostly copied from regexp ?

20:12:15 ascii_field: in 1958 ???

20:12:20 mircea_popescu: s/g/s/ and re-arrange the letters a little

20:12:40 ascii_field: reminds me of my brother's Unified Theory of Linguistics

20:12:54 ascii_field: unfortunately doesn't work in english, but i'll try:

20:13:32 ascii_field: -ийский family - английский (english), индийский - hindi, etc

20:14:07 ascii_field: -инский family - финский (finnish), латинский (latin)

20:14:10 ascii_field: etc.

20:14:15 ascii_field: it wurkx!!1111

20:14:33 ascii_field: classifies!

20:14:44 mircea_popescu: hey, it actually does, in russian.

20:14:50 ascii_field: http://www.multicians.org/thvv/borges-animals.html << see also.

20:14:52 assbot: Borges' Encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1L6WGMk )

20:15:03 mircea_popescu: i suspect the deep driver there is "idiots" vs "enemies"

20:15:53 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

20:16:19 ascii_field: http://fraudsters.com/2015/the-great-nedeflorena-show/#comment-115312 btw

20:16:19 assbot: The great Nedeflorena show on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L6WM6C )

20:16:45 mircea_popescu: god damned it.

20:16:58 mircea_popescu: you know alfie, back when i was writing for romanians in romanian it was easy

20:17:07 ascii_field: hows that

20:17:12 mircea_popescu: but now i write in english and people who know russian read and wtf amd i gonna do.

20:17:22 mircea_popescu: I WANT MY PRIVATE JOKES BACK

20:17:31 ascii_field: l0lz

20:17:53 ascii_field: learn cn, might take us a little while to catch up

20:18:13 mircea_popescu: write your lisp in java, might take a while to run!

20:18:16 ascii_field: i know strictly enough of it to not crash an elevator

20:19:08 mircea_popescu: and the next day after i start making obscure chinese statements on fraudsters you run off from home to live in xiang-fuck or some shit

20:19:29 *: mircea_popescu has little faith in the length of that "little while".

20:19:39 ascii_field: hey, 'better for the buses, closer to the shops' or how'd it go

20:19:45 mircea_popescu: lol

20:25:02 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270469 << this supposition is both correct and a good reason to not use gold as a monetary item.

20:25:02 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 13:52:21; asciilifeform: this is rather like supposing that all gold on planet will one day be split into individual atoms on account of its scarcity, no ?

20:25:21 mircea_popescu: i refer you to your classical history studies. why do you suppose the atom count of gold per monetary item kept decreasing ?

20:25:27 mircea_popescu: emperors wanted to steal, right ?

20:25:30 mircea_popescu: why did they want this ?

20:25:50 ascii_field: easier than not ?

20:25:51 mircea_popescu: if money were still linked to gold, seeing how there's not that much gold around, you'd be dealing in sub-miligram units.

20:26:03 mircea_popescu: gold as coinage works fine for small populations.

20:26:17 mircea_popescu: once the empire grows, the size of the coin has to diminish

20:26:27 mircea_popescu: the choice is to either make it microscopic or dilute it with base metal

20:26:29 mircea_popescu: pure ux.

20:26:43 ascii_field: why not introduce copper coins for schmucks, keep proper gold coins for serious biznis

20:26:59 mircea_popescu: because that introduces a border and borders must be policed which costs EVEN MORE money

20:27:02 ascii_field: the dilution is not inevitable, it is pure pickpocketry

20:27:11 mircea_popescu: the dilution is in fact inevitable.

20:27:11 ascii_field: newton policed just fine

20:27:24 mircea_popescu: if your mint needs a newton to run it, fuck you.

20:27:32 mircea_popescu: go design some more phd assemblylines!

20:27:52 ascii_field: (beautifully fictionalized but afaik pretty accurate depiction of 'trial of the pyx' in n. stephenson's 'baroque cycle' - recommended)

20:28:05 ascii_field: !s pyx

20:28:06 assbot: 6 results for 'pyx' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pyx

20:28:13 ben_vulpes: rather nifty books

20:28:24 ascii_field: aha

20:29:17 mircea_popescu: anyway : yes as adoption grows (the real kind, not verbal), the average size of the unspent will decrease.

20:29:29 mircea_popescu: this has nothing to do with wealth (in fact it decreases more in wealthy systems than in poorer ones)

20:31:29 ascii_field: overall this is a kind of inevitable entropic heat death and applies to everything.

20:31:41 ascii_field: e.g., go and get the indium back out of the junkyard, for new lcd glass

20:31:50 mircea_popescu: yes.

20:31:58 ascii_field: all 0.1 mg or however much of it, per.

20:31:58 mircea_popescu: but unlike indium, which is a real object,

20:32:01 mircea_popescu: bitcoin is an ideal object

20:36:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37250 @ 0.00073728 = 27.4637 BTC [+] {3}

20:38:49 *: trinque signs up for fastmail... fastmail goes down :''( fastmailstatus.com

20:38:56 ascii_field: wtf why

20:38:58 trinque: email is hell

20:39:01 trinque: that's why

20:39:11 trinque: I have no interest in continuing this postfix hobby

20:39:14 BingoBoingo: Everything sucks

20:39:15 ascii_field: how does using random spam mailatron help

20:39:17 mircea_popescu: darkmail or w/e hasn't gone down./

20:39:24 mircea_popescu: so use that :D

20:39:25 ascii_field: hushmail

20:39:25 ascii_field: .gov

20:39:27 ascii_field: aha

20:39:49 trinque: because it's their problem to keep up, and the idea that any email is beyond prying eyes is long since passed

20:39:59 trinque: want to send a real message, send it through a better tube

20:40:55 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270476 << yeah, i'm sure it's so much better with men.

20:40:55 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 13:56:45; asciilifeform: then again jurov is fortunate in not being personally concerned with this matter, just as eagle does not concern himself with muddy roads...

20:42:55 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270480 << for the record i know actual us women, in their 60s, in the same situation. the usg itself doesn't, but that'd be more of the http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-10/bullying-allegations-against-monash-senior-surgeon-upheld/6766046 same.

20:42:55 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 13:57:52; asciilifeform: ^ aha this was sop

20:42:57 assbot: Bullying allegations against Monash Medical Centre senior surgeon upheld - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXsa3g )

20:43:01 mircea_popescu: and holy fuck am i indignant over that shit.

20:43:35 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270481 << amusingly, notrly.

20:43:35 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 13:59:10; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270211 << there was gold, foreign currencies, no ?

20:43:43 mircea_popescu: rilke dealt in funeral stones as stores of value lol

20:43:57 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270483 << that's not an adult.

20:43:57 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 13:59:43; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270214 << easily, if the adult is a demented bugger goading the idiots on

20:45:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: << mircea_popescu appears to have slept through the total obliteration of whatever 'premium' status ipNohe had. << it's in the price, see ?

20:46:20 mircea_popescu: chumpatronics is its own science, with its own measures scl, you can't just replace them for gonzo values

20:46:22 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

20:48:52 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270504 << it was perhaps peek stupidty in moscow libertard circles.

20:48:52 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 14:20:34; phf: i was in moscow few weeks after iphone 5 release and saw status games golden youth would play with it, polished girls coyly extracting iphones to pretense that bought it in new york just last week, iphones on tables at expensive cafes, etc. i've seen more iphones over a weekend out then in moscow then i've ever in the states. nothing like that was happening after 6 came out, of course it's my impressions, but i

20:48:57 mircea_popescu: meanwhile putin reigned it in.

20:49:24 mircea_popescu: iirc that was before ukraine.

20:51:17 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270526 << fuck them.

20:51:17 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 14:45:37; pete_dushenski: for contractors, certainly.

20:51:25 mircea_popescu: hm, fuck the other ones i meant!

20:52:49 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270532 goes with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-08-2015#1246900

20:52:49 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 14:49:33; pete_dushenski: "Jews who were citizens of Germany’s allies lived or died according to certain general rules. Jews who maintained their prewar citizenship usually lived, and those who did not usually died…Jews from territories that changed hands were usually murdered. Jews almost never survived if they remained on territories where the Soviet Union had been exercising power when German or Romanian forces arriv

20:52:49 assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 03:58:42; mircea_popescu: fun fact, since for some reason i'm doing history now. romania's head rabi (niemirower) died in 1940. he was succeded by one alex safran, who was 29 at that time. and by virtue of being head rabi, the young man also had an ex officio seat in the romanian senate. but for not being yet 40 years of age as the senate required, he asked for, and obtained, a special derrogation from the high chamber of cas

20:53:58 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270779 << wai wat

20:53:58 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 20:45:57; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: << mircea_popescu appears to have slept through the total obliteration of whatever 'premium' status ipNohe had. << it's in the price, see ?

20:54:13 mircea_popescu: it's in the price. they cost >1k or w/e

20:55:10 ascii_field: ~700 bux iirc

20:55:14 ascii_field: but what of it

20:55:25 mircea_popescu: that's what it is. all of it.

20:55:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00074678 = 23.6729 BTC [+]

20:55:45 ascii_field: in usa, almost all iphonistas were getting the things via their telco already

20:55:57 mircea_popescu: in any consumer driven market, the price is the only signal of everything. and you do not give as much as a faint whiff of selling the 1k item for ~20 bux. not ever.

20:56:04 mircea_popescu: doesn't matter how they get it.

20:56:10 mircea_popescu: gotta support the standard.

20:57:06 ascii_field: most iphonists don't even know what the thing costs to buy fair & square

20:57:12 ascii_field: last year or this year

20:57:20 ascii_field: ~nobody actually pays the 700

20:57:28 mircea_popescu: heh. your argument basically is "post-consumerism" ?

20:57:40 ascii_field: folks pay a few hundy and telco covers the rest in exchange for binding contract for n years

20:57:41 mircea_popescu: "as long as the state agrees it's 700, doesn't jack shit matter what they do"

20:57:51 ascii_field: (this is forbidden in eu, iirc, usa-only trick)

20:59:48 shinohai: Which would you rather have, $700 or a device that you charge $50 for and people keep inserting coins in to use?

21:00:22 mircea_popescu: the inserting is predicated on the 700.

21:00:31 mircea_popescu: lose one you lose both.

21:00:48 mircea_popescu: but whatever, not like anyone doubted cook was gonna sink apple.

21:01:43 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270754 <<< i use fastmail and today was the first time i've ever had an issue, reliable until now

21:01:43 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 20:38:49; *: trinque signs up for fastmail... fastmail goes down :''( fastmailstatus.com

21:02:06 ascii_field: the thing about apple is that it can live for a very, very long time even with all internal organs removed

21:02:19 ascii_field: because there is no (from the perspective of the aficionados) remotely credible alternative.

21:02:55 ascii_field: it is like microshit in the mid-90s

21:03:00 trinque: cazalla: yep, back up now; as long as they are that responsive I'm pleased

21:03:14 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270572 this is a fucking lulzy exercise in http://fraudsters.com/2012/adnotated-words-of-wisdom-on-the-topic-of-online-fraud/#selection-175.0-175.306

21:03:14 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 16:40:13; shinohai: I never knew this goldmine existed: http://biddaters.com/auction-list/

21:03:15 assbot: Adnotated words of wisdom on the topic of online fraud on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7t1lw )

21:03:20 mircea_popescu: generally that whole article applies greatly.

21:03:45 mircea_popescu: spiral of defeat. a) woman goes out, meets a buncha schmucks ; b) woman starts charging ~100 per dinner date, ensuring that... she will now ONLY meet the schmucks.

21:04:07 ascii_field: and only the most desperately repulsive subset, even

21:04:10 mircea_popescu: ascii_field it's more like ibm. "great american industree - does nothing really"

21:04:28 mircea_popescu: ascii_field i dunno, women i know hate the inept cocksure ones more than the neurotic pay-for-it ones

21:04:32 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: for so long as you think this, you will catastrophically misunderstand why apple remains a thing

21:04:43 mircea_popescu: perhaps.

21:04:48 ascii_field: it actually does something. it is useful to understand ~what~.

21:04:57 ascii_field: ben_vulpes can prolly explain much better than i can

21:06:21 mircea_popescu: your argument strikes me of the same exceptionalism "medicine" of 1700 employed. or "religion" of 1800.

21:06:32 mircea_popescu: it does "something" and for as long etc, i'll fail to understand why it remains a thing.

21:06:46 mircea_popescu: not so, notrly.

21:07:33 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270632 << i lolled.

21:07:33 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 17:28:23; ascii_field: 'Please inform Mr. Toom about the grading system and instruction methods of THIS country.:.. I earned a grade of A in my college algebra and trigonometry courses so it makes no sense for me to be doing so poorly in this course. Please straighten this man out.'

21:07:45 ascii_field: they sell microshit-free machines usable by civilian

21:08:02 mircea_popescu: derplet's got these feelings almost like he's a thing, "i am a tractor, it makes no sense i can't pull odwn this wall, please explain mechanics to it!"

21:08:21 mircea_popescu: ascii_field nobody cares.

21:08:50 ascii_field: the billion lusers who buy the thing, apparently care

21:09:19 ascii_field: hell, some perfectly literate folks, ben_vulpes, trinque, et al, care.

21:09:26 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-09-2015#1270648 << awww. lol.

21:09:26 assbot: Logged on 11-09-2015 17:44:23; shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3kiv90/eth_is_dumping_hard_why_whats_the_bad_news/cuxs1qd

21:09:40 shinohai: ^_____________^

21:09:42 mircea_popescu: "someone pointed out to mp what that shit's been doing while nobody was looking"

21:10:02 mircea_popescu: ascii_field the "apparently care" you propose has a name.

21:10:27 shinohai: I am also pleased to see that dogecoin seems to be declining. That scam sure had some steam.

21:11:31 mircea_popescu: fluffypony is that floor linoleum ? http://i.imgur.com/WREwgEd.jpg

21:11:32 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7ufgB )

21:11:32 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: go give ben_vulpes a unix and laptop co-designed with it, then he can throw away the crapple

21:11:50 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/S2X6bI7.jpg omfg what is this ;/

21:11:52 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7ugBe )

21:11:53 mircea_popescu: 2 star.

21:12:01 mircea_popescu: nobody even knows the quals anymore, is it ?

21:12:02 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: tiled, iirc

21:12:10 ascii_field: l0l square toilet

21:12:16 ascii_field: a bit like in ba

21:12:31 *: ascii_field searched, in vain, for people on the street with square arses

21:12:38 mircea_popescu: ascii_field wut ?! bathroom was the size of that room o.O

21:12:44 ascii_field: yes it was.

21:12:55 ascii_field: speaking of the toilet per se, strictly

21:13:01 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/8ZHmhKt.jpg <<< hey check out the respectable dulap!

21:13:02 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uqIM )

21:13:02 ascii_field: the actual shitcatcher.

21:13:14 ascii_field: schlllllt.

21:13:18 mircea_popescu: ftr, the estonians got really great at "fake ancient furniture".

21:13:36 mircea_popescu: they did a good job actually copying the principles not merelyt the objects, turn out perfectly passible items now.

21:13:56 mircea_popescu: beat the shit of the romanians, who tried same but failed utterly.

21:14:58 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/TldSNQ4.jpg << thisd thing'd have made such a great bdsm dungeon

21:14:59 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uLLz )

21:15:02 mircea_popescu: really its only use./

21:15:40 ascii_field: l0l what kinda gulag is that

21:15:43 *: shinohai uncovers a plot where the USG kidnaps asciilifeform and force him to rewrite bitcoin in this: https://github.com/ErisBlastar/cplusequality

21:15:45 assbot: ErisBlastar/cplusequality · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7uRmz )

21:16:58 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

21:17:01 ascii_field: maybe(p.gender==male && p.orentation==het_cis_scum) {

21:17:01 ascii_field: yell('RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE!!!!!');

21:17:01 ascii_field: crush(p); //Use the function crush in Dworkin.Xir to discard the oppressor

21:17:01 ascii_field: ENDMISOGYNY

21:17:07 ascii_field: win.

21:17:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3961 @ 0.00074386 = 2.9464 BTC [-]

21:19:43 ascii_field: http://feministsoftwarefoundation.org << very lulzy. go, load it

21:19:48 assbot: МВД России ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nncsmm )

21:25:44 shinohai: Ministry of Internal Affairs? LOL

21:26:03 mod6: wth haha

21:26:19 ascii_field: shinohai: gendarmerie.

21:26:30 trinque: obviously pussy riot is resisting through culture with this domain

21:26:33 ascii_field: (sorta like what they would like to make in usa, instead of all the disjoint local police forces)

21:27:16 shinohai: I got called an idiot for not calling the cops when my house got broken into yesterday.

21:27:48 shinohai: Kinda pointless imo

21:28:04 ascii_field: shinohai: some insurance companies will not officially recognize the fact of theft, vandalism, etc. without a police case #

21:28:57 ascii_field: phun phakt: most american 'home insurance' co. will specifically ~not~ insure any item you built yourself

21:29:03 shinohai: All they got was a cruddy old laptop worth abt $200, wasn't insured.

21:29:05 ascii_field: (think about it. how would it work.)

21:30:06 pete_dushenski: from a meatwoter : "Also on a completely unrelated note, TD now prevents me from visiting contravex at work."

21:30:16 ascii_field: td?

21:30:25 pete_dushenski: for those unawares, TD Canada Trust is one of the 'big 5' banks in canada

21:30:30 shinohai: Items in my safe are insured, but that was too much trouble for what I am guessing was methheads.

21:32:12 pete_dushenski: bank of nova scotia (scotiabank), canadian imperial bank of commerce (cibc), bank of montreal (bmo), and royal bank of canada (rbc) round it out

21:32:19 pete_dushenski: td = toronto dominion

21:32:21 mircea_popescu: how exactly did the russky govt manage to steal a .org ?

21:32:33 ascii_field: steal lol

21:33:07 mircea_popescu: yes ?

21:33:34 ascii_field: it's the world's spiffiest tr0l0l0l

21:33:45 ascii_field: iirc never pointed anywhere else

21:33:51 mircea_popescu: oh

21:34:16 mircea_popescu: i thought it was the derpy blondies or something.

21:34:17 ascii_field: quite reminiscent of 'intercal' btw

21:34:19 mircea_popescu: didn't know they could code.

21:36:12 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell kakobrekla please to point trinque to >1btc bitbet rss feed (if it exists)

21:36:12 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:37:18 mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1170/bitcoin-to-top-400-before-january-2016/

21:37:19 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to top $400 before January 2016 :: 4.55 B (18%) on Yes, 20.27 B (82%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 61`576 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7xNzw )

21:37:22 mircea_popescu: 5:1, that bad ? hm.

21:38:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28572 @ 0.00073999 = 21.143 BTC [-] {3}

21:40:40 mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> phun phakt: most american 'home insurance' co. will specifically ~not~ insure any item you built yourself << of course they will.

21:40:55 ascii_field: for its poundage in scrap - yes

21:40:57 mircea_popescu: they won't do custom jobs for items worth less than maybe 100k or so, but then again fuck you, nobody is going to insure your chewwed gum

21:41:06 ascii_field: ^^ this, yes

21:41:07 mircea_popescu: nah, artwork is routinely insured.

21:41:14 ascii_field: not talking about rembrandt.

21:41:20 ascii_field: not a problem i have

21:41:33 mircea_popescu: i know bunches of late 20s earlky 30yos with insurance for the shiot they make

21:42:09 mircea_popescu: not their fault you persist in living in a counbtry whichg has decided "coding will work like art works!!1"

21:44:18 mircea_popescu: "It?s easier than you think to attract this offensive, sexist label ? all you have to do is dare speak out against gender inequality"

21:44:24 mircea_popescu: oh ffs, who the fuck is laura bates.

21:50:33 shinohai: http://techcrunch.com/2015/09/11/welcome-to-hipster-hell-tumblr-now-has-its-own-clothing-line/

21:50:34 assbot: Welcome To Hipster Hell: Tumblr Now Has Its Own Clothing Line | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1KgmsNe )

21:50:59 shinohai: ^Guarantee they will go bankrupt trying to find enuf cloth to fit all the fat-ass feminists.

21:51:26 pete_dushenski: shinohai: like walmart goes bankrupt ? mkay.

21:51:56 shinohai: That's a lot of cloth, pete_dushenski

21:52:42 pete_dushenski: ha not like it's silk

21:53:04 pete_dushenski: tumlrinas also need a lot of 'food', doesn't seem to be an issue

21:55:29 shinohai: hue

21:57:50 shinohai: https://redd.it/3kkn6v

21:57:53 assbot: No, dropping lowest-priority tx (in the event of a spam attack) is not better than dropping random transactions - in fact, it's a lot worse. Peter Todd is full of shit on this one. Here's why. : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q7Af95 )

22:06:52 *: trinque shoves the barge that once was a mailserver seaward, fires a flaming arrow, salutes

22:08:02 mod6: heheh

22:10:29 pete_dushenski: follow-up from meatwoter at td : fraudsters.com works

22:10:51 pete_dushenski: WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE SUCH OPPRESSION ?!

22:15:52 *: shinohai adds pete_dushenski to the sponsors of terrorism list.

22:20:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0007416 = 3.8563 BTC [+]

22:21:35 pete_dushenski: me and youtube, gmail, and facefraud. oh the company i keep.

22:27:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45700 @ 0.00073726 = 33.6928 BTC [-]

22:33:36 deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Down to the last satoshi. Now with bonus poem! - http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/11/down-to-the-last-satoshi-now-with-bonus-poem/

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22:42:02 pete_dushenski: bbiab

22:43:57 shinohai: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/us/politics/us-drops-charges-that-professor-shared-technology-with-china.html?module=Notification&version=BreakingNews®ion=FixedTop&action=Click&contentCollection=BreakingNews&contentID=50653748&pgtype=article

22:44:00 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ok0v1F )

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