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00:02:55 asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/#comment-34704

00:02:56 assbot: The danger of unchecked assumptions, or the surprising depths of inequality. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hw9JXz )

00:02:56 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:03:26 punkman: Buterin doesn't get to keep 44k btc

00:03:39 asciilifeform: got private key ? could keep if he likes.

00:03:45 asciilifeform: or what, coke machine ?

00:03:55 punkman: he must spent it on stupid shit

00:03:59 asciilifeform: 'must' how ?

00:04:12 asciilifeform: could move it to a fresh addr and vanish tomorrow.

00:04:15 asciilifeform: like the others.

00:04:24 punkman: he already had a chance to do that

00:04:43 punkman: or maybe never had the keys

00:04:49 asciilifeform: or.

00:05:37 asciilifeform: it's a very convenient rationalization

00:05:57 asciilifeform: when an idiot has xxxxx btc, 'oh but he couldn't possibly have the keyz'

00:06:05 asciilifeform: why the everliving fuck not.

00:06:15 asciilifeform: and SOMEBODY has the keys.

00:06:49 asciilifeform: what now, all of these 'somebodies' are gurus worthy of submission and imitation ?

00:06:50 punkman: somebody has, and they will spend it on eth "development", "conferences", etc

00:07:00 asciilifeform: ergo not so smart.

00:07:09 punkman: whoever keeps it, is smart

00:07:11 BingoBoingo: Carl Mark Force Model IV has the keys

00:07:23 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc the moron sold it all

00:07:37 asciilifeform: so he'd be a point in support of pete_dushenski's hypothesis

00:07:38 shinohai: http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2015/11/10/pillow-talk-connects-distant-lovers-as-they-drift-to-sleep/ <<< sadly, people will pay to fund shit like this

00:07:39 assbot: Pillow Talk connects distant lovers as they drift to sleep ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2tB4k )

00:07:48 BingoBoingo: There's more of that idiot's production

00:07:55 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this is the problem of the bloody book. in "removing the requirement for a wot" it creates more problems than it resolves

00:07:58 mircea_popescu: admitting it resolves any.

00:08:11 asciilifeform: how does it remove ?

00:08:40 mircea_popescu: and NO, idiots are not able to propagate anything without the printing press. which is why prior to it there were 5000 different idiocies summing to 0 and ever since tyhen we've been deluged in organised imbecillity.

00:09:23 asciilifeform: tora/koran/et al worked fine without press.

00:09:28 mircea_popescu: and yes, stupidity is a technology like any other.

00:09:33 asciilifeform: schmucks sat with goose pen.

00:11:32 asciilifeform: anyway, i need not-having-knuth (or table of motherfucking permeattivity constants, or landau, or,or,or,x10,000) like i need to have my arms and legs and cock chopped.

00:11:38 asciilifeform: i don't see this argument going anywhere.

00:12:08 mircea_popescu: i personally read mazdak as a http://fraudsters.com/2012/in-general-evreii-trec-drept-oameni-destepti/#selection-45.0-47.0

00:12:09 assbot: In general evreii trec drept oameni destepti, on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2tSEc )

00:12:35 mircea_popescu: the idea that the torah is a book is a peculiar one.

00:12:38 mircea_popescu: it's a scroll.

00:12:45 mircea_popescu: scrolls scan just fine.

00:12:52 asciilifeform: book in general sense.

00:12:59 mircea_popescu: there IS NOT SUCH A GENERAL SENSE

00:13:05 asciilifeform: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTCgl3WUAAAXKjv.jpg:large (via vexual.) seems like they finally killed esp8266.

00:13:06 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O2tXaU )

00:13:06 mircea_popescu: "usg in the general sense"

00:13:41 mircea_popescu: books mean a very specific PERVERSION of culture ; much like usg is a very specific perversion of governance.

00:13:49 asciilifeform: 'esp32' !!111!111 now with all the bullshit you enjoyed not having in the original!

00:14:14 mircea_popescu: heh.

00:14:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm approximately as interested in inhabiting a world without landau as you are in inhabiting world without cunt.

00:15:11 mircea_popescu: so keep it.

00:15:30 asciilifeform: that's kinda what the thread was about

00:15:43 asciilifeform: but then we get 'but it isn't in the logz, ergo useless'

00:15:59 mircea_popescu: it is in the log via you. is it ?

00:16:06 asciilifeform: not wholesale ...

00:16:12 mircea_popescu: aha so then.

00:16:32 asciilifeform: 'Besides integrating hardware accelerators for AES and SSL....'

00:16:38 mircea_popescu: loller.

00:16:41 asciilifeform: 'a rich peripheral interface with DMA.....'

00:16:46 mircea_popescu: ahahaha

00:16:47 asciilifeform: oh for fux sake

00:16:57 *: mircea_popescu blames books.

00:16:59 asciilifeform: RIP esp8266

00:17:01 asciilifeform: we hardly knewya

00:17:19 asciilifeform: now i gotta wait for mircea_popescu to teach me to make replacement for it out of horses

00:17:55 mircea_popescu: "e simplu : pune coaiele pe nicolava".

00:17:58 mircea_popescu: dja know the joke ?

00:18:08 asciilifeform: nein

00:18:59 mircea_popescu: arab guy through the desert

00:19:03 mircea_popescu: camel is all slow and shit.

00:19:12 mircea_popescu: sees a camel soup-up and service shop. goes in

00:19:20 mircea_popescu: "do you make camels go faster ?" "aha"

00:19:27 mircea_popescu: "make this one go faster then!"

00:19:31 mircea_popescu: "put its ballsac on the anvil"

00:19:52 mircea_popescu: the guy does, the mechanic hammers it one solidly, the camel takes off doing something between scared hare and arrow in flight

00:20:04 mircea_popescu: "that's nice but... i'm still here. how do i catch it now ?"

00:20:11 mircea_popescu: "put ballsac on anvil."

00:20:18 trinque: lol!

00:23:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, the thread was about you saying how nobody should have to reprocess books ; and i made the point that but for the historical accident, one wouldn't even have to process them in the first place.

00:23:22 mircea_popescu: it was meant as a soothing observation.

00:24:00 BingoBoingo: How does someone sooth a man with such clear and limited emotional registers?

00:24:07 deedbot-: [Qntra] Preet Ups the Charges for Coin.mx Operators - http://qntra.net/2015/11/preet-ups-the-charges-for-coin-mx-operators/

00:24:13 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321379 << dja qntra that yet shinohai ?

00:24:13 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 19:18:09; shinohai: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/10/us-hacking-indictment-idUSKCN0SZ1VM20151110

00:25:32 BingoBoingo: shinohai: If you qntra that now make sure to include details and history.

00:26:44 BingoBoingo: also shinohai if you decide to include it http://qntra.net/bundles/bharara.jpg

00:26:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwdPz2 )

00:27:27 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321394 <<< yeah intel eventually dug out some lines ab out how "hardforking is the future" and it entirely cooled me on the notion monero has any sort of future.

00:27:27 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 20:21:31; jurov: rly? lol

00:28:11 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/FEHb2

00:28:12 assbot: Media must use “StopHillary” Wi-Fi password at tonight’s Republican debate | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hwe1yc )

00:29:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2072 @ 0.00055208 = 1.1439 BTC [-]

00:29:51 mircea_popescu: lol.

00:30:05 mircea_popescu: they're worried about the wrong things.

00:30:09 mircea_popescu: then again... republicans, right ?

00:30:37 BingoBoingo: Seriously, now everybody in rf range can sniff their packets

00:31:18 shinohai: You're right BingoBoingo the pic makes it

00:31:37 BingoBoingo: But yes, these are typical failings of USia's other socialist party

00:34:36 BingoBoingo: brb

00:36:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00055208 = 2.5672 BTC [-] {2}

00:41:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5792 @ 0.00054816 = 3.1749 BTC [-] {2}

00:45:35 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321436 << makes one wonder about all the unintended consequences of this revolution

00:45:35 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 22:16:48; mircea_popescu: the consequences of the derps "revolutionizing" things are always this one and the same.

00:46:29 gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines...

00:46:41 punkman: lol

00:48:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.000553 = 3.0415 BTC [+] {3}

01:04:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7237 @ 0.00055226 = 3.9967 BTC [-] {3}

01:07:11 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXC8LfnXMTs lullaby for teh little ones

01:07:12 assbot: ΝΑΝΟΥΡΙΣΜΑ - ΜΑΤΩΜΕΝΟΣ ΓΑΜΟΣ 1955 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hwkp8T )

01:09:00 ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: good afternoon to you as well

01:11:20 mircea_popescu: wait wut! ?

01:14:31 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-4-2015 << somewhere in there perhaps? i have nfi.

01:14:34 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hwlo93 )

01:16:37 punkman: hmm Uncle Vanya production is visiting, is the play any good?

01:18:29 asciilifeform: punkman: what's this

01:18:49 punkman: asciilifeform: which

01:19:03 asciilifeform: lullaby

01:19:56 punkman: from greek version of Federico García Lorca's Bodas de Sangre

01:20:00 asciilifeform: ah

01:20:17 asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: what've you been smoking

01:21:39 asciilifeform: !up gabriel_laddel

01:21:51 gabriel_laddel: ty. Anyways, nothing?

01:22:04 gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: howdy.

01:27:54 ben_vulpes: hola

01:35:27 *: asciilifeform observed an interesting effect. have two very similar pairs of cheapo headphones, but one emits strange scratchy sounds, other does not. then realized that it is the ~insulation on the cord~ that was at fault

01:35:46 asciilifeform: one set had cloth fiber, to 'look retro' presumably

01:36:04 asciilifeform: and it scratched on shirt, chair, etc. and vibration - propagates

01:36:23 asciilifeform: the other, with the more ordinary smooth insulation does no such thing.

01:37:20 punkman: sounds like the wire is damaged, not the insulation

01:37:50 asciilifeform: brand new.

01:37:55 kakobrekla: yeah cable microphonics are annoying as fuck.

01:37:59 asciilifeform: nono

01:38:04 asciilifeform: this is WITHOUT ANY CURRENT

01:38:10 asciilifeform: as in, 100% mechanical

01:38:16 kakobrekla: yeah.

01:38:52 kakobrekla: seen that more that id wish to admit.

01:39:00 kakobrekla: than*

01:39:17 punkman: without current, like cans and string?

01:39:24 asciilifeform: aha

01:39:26 asciilifeform: precisely

01:39:29 punkman: oic

01:39:41 punkman: never seen this

01:40:35 kakobrekla: prolly most headphones do this.

01:40:57 asciilifeform: mno

01:41:01 asciilifeform: only this set with the cloth cable.

01:41:14 kakobrekla: most headphones have shitty cable.

01:41:26 asciilifeform: not in this particular way.

01:41:52 kakobrekla: superlux do this as well.

01:42:33 kakobrekla: put them on, unplugged, move the cable, hear noise.

01:43:46 asciilifeform: never before seen this.

01:43:55 kakobrekla: just lucky i guess.

01:44:09 asciilifeform: i've been through perhaps a hundred disposable sets

01:44:12 asciilifeform: and not one did this.

01:44:25 kakobrekla: very lucky.

01:44:29 asciilifeform: l0l

01:46:20 punkman: question is, does nobody test the things before making a full factory run

01:46:28 asciilifeform: turns out not

01:46:37 asciilifeform: OR, more interestingly, yes, and it doesn't matter

01:46:42 asciilifeform: they laugh all the way to the bank

01:47:19 asciilifeform: the cloth on the cable is a classic 'fuffle'

01:47:36 asciilifeform: built to 'spray on' the appearance of quality where none exists

01:47:52 asciilifeform: sorta like those weights that have - likewise - turned up in certain heaphones

01:48:31 asciilifeform: which are in no actual way distinct in purpose or in effect from the weights found in fraudulent chinese hard disks

01:48:35 punkman: so you think it has big magnets?

01:48:47 asciilifeform: http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/china_hdd_02.jpg

01:48:47 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhc5fZ )

01:48:57 asciilifeform: magnets, frame, etc.

01:49:17 asciilifeform: http://www.lopanchoi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/5597721.jpg

01:49:19 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhc77B )

01:50:42 asciilifeform: http://izismile.com/2013/03/27/this_chinese_external_battery_is_not_what_it_5_pics.html

01:50:43 assbot: This Chinese External Battery Is Not What It Seems (5 pics) - Izismile.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1QhcbnD )

01:50:43 asciilifeform: etc.

01:51:21 punkman: lol, bag of sand?

01:53:07 asciilifeform: http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/egypt-chinese-alert-fake-pharaohs-and.html << vintage lul

01:53:08 assbot: Islamization Watch: EGYPT: Chinese Alert, Fake Pharaohs and Incomplete Digital Korans Invade the Market ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhchfg )

01:53:19 asciilifeform: 'China stops at nothing: incomplete digital Korans and fake pharaoh finds are invading the Egyptian market...'

01:53:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00055049 = 2.4222 BTC [-]

01:57:04 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321653 << aka the alcubierre space engine

01:57:04 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 00:20:11; mircea_popescu: "put ballsac on anvil."

01:57:56 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321749 < just hope its not sand from fuckoshima

01:57:56 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 01:51:21; punkman: lol, bag of sand?

02:19:43 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 15.18664247 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b59

02:20:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0005568 = 2.2272 BTC [+] {3}

02:29:25 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 3.02484407 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b21

02:39:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.0005582 = 1.7304 BTC [+]

02:48:35 punkman: http://blog.fastmail.com/2015/11/11/ddos-attack-may-lead-to-potential-service-disruption-this-week/

02:48:36 assbot: DDoS attack may lead to potential service disruption this week | FastMail Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLmWl5 )

02:50:11 punkman: http://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/dane_geld.html

02:50:12 assbot: Poetry Lovers' Page - Rudyard Kipling: Dane-Geld ... ( http://bit.ly/1kLnasd )

03:06:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2131 @ 0.0005582 = 1.1895 BTC [+]

03:20:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.0005582 = 1.1722 BTC [+]

03:21:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00055803 = 2.2042 BTC [-]

03:50:05 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321541 << i recognize this from Diablo II

03:50:05 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 23:04:08; mircea_popescu: what's that great quote...

03:55:47 BingoBoingo: Is it just me, or does this feel a fuck of a lot like November 2012

04:03:15 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

04:03:22 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 310.84, vol: 57586.89267653 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 315.0, vol: 24033.10782 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 315.24, vol: 126558.1211521 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 312.0, vol: 8.57466047 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 312.354828, vol: 109012.58450000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 310.0, vol: 181.7988342 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 320.8864, vol: 252.88649976 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

04:03:25 BingoBoingo: ;;more

04:03:25 gribble: 313.435335195

04:45:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3079 @ 0.00055802 = 1.7181 BTC [+] {2}

04:47:02 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo mebbe.

04:47:06 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron yep exactly.

04:47:48 BingoBoingo: It's still early, but that's what the correspondence to the past is *feeling* like

04:55:53 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/205fc2394e3169753298a37dfdaf8032/tumblr_n71q0qKyOs1r59rt8o1_1280.jpg

04:55:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1SHy1zf )

04:58:06 punkman: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-10/why-alibaba-is-having-singles-day-in-beijing-for-first-time "Transactions on this year’s event passed 57.1 billion yuan ($9 billion) before midday, eclipsing the 2014 mark with another 12 hours still to go."

04:58:06 assbot: Why Alibaba Is Having Singles' Day in Beijing for First Time - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1HwS7uW )

04:59:24 mircea_popescu: heh, their economy doesn't need stimuli ?

05:02:22 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321780 << wtf is with the mag on that kalash

05:02:22 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 04:55:53; mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/205fc2394e3169753298a37dfdaf8032/tumblr_n71q0qKyOs1r59rt8o1_1280.jpg

05:03:29 mircea_popescu: crazy shitstick ?

05:03:42 asciilifeform: it's not even ~in~

05:04:00 mircea_popescu: he looks like he's carrying some spares in a bundle.

05:04:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.0005505 = 1.8167 BTC [-] {2}

05:10:48 BingoBoingo: There's 3 taped together there

05:16:20 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: guess i should've specified tag heuer MONACO

05:16:37 pete_dushenski: this is the only watch of theirs that's ever caught my eye

05:17:20 pete_dushenski: also the one tiger promoted, and thus the one that private club golfers aka 14% aka professional class aka middle-upper-class are most likely to wear

05:17:23 pete_dushenski: in my experience

05:17:31 BingoBoingo: Ah

05:17:58 pete_dushenski: though i have to admit that i didn't realise just how much more expensive it was than 'normal' tag

05:18:03 pete_dushenski: until you'd mentioned it

05:18:12 pete_dushenski: like 10x eh

05:21:31 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321680 << gabe, you keep track of the weirdest shit y'know

05:21:31 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 00:46:29; gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines...

05:22:09 pete_dushenski: "120`938 days since gavin's dad porked his mom"

05:22:55 pete_dushenski: "382`293 seconds since hearn put his foot in his mouth"

05:23:18 pete_dushenski: "942 days since an accident in the uranium mines"

05:24:43 pete_dushenski: https://archive.is/bN7tZ << "60 billion yuan will go toward a new memory chip plant, and 16.2 billion yuan toward acquisitions “upstream and downstream in the microchip supply chain.” The remaining 3.8 billion yuan will go toward Tsinghua Unigroup’s purchase of a 25% stake in Taiwan’s Powertech Technology Inc."

05:24:44 assbot: China’s Tsinghua Unigroup to Build Memory Chip Factory - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1SHC1Qb )

05:24:59 deedbot-: [fraudsters] Come see the retard chamber! - http://fraudsters.com/2015/come-see-the-retard-chamber/

05:28:47 punkman: mircea_popescu: did you find any antique vacuums?

05:33:50 pete_dushenski: https://archive.is/I11Jn << "Mr. Schneiderman doesn’t see how he can prove harm from fossil fuels. So instead of RICO he appears to be focused on the Martin Act, the appalling New York state law enacted in 1921 to prosecute stock-sale boiler rooms. The Martin Act doesn’t require prosecutors to prove intent to defraud, which is why it was a favorite tool of the Empire State’s disgraced former AG Eliot Spitz

05:33:51 assbot: Prosecuting Climate Dissent - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1QhmkAT )

05:33:51 pete_dushenski: er."

05:34:58 pete_dushenski: http://twistedsifter.com/2015/11/if-politicians-had-man-buns/ << #6 ftw (looks like beckham's 'do)

05:34:59 assbot: If Politicians Had Man Buns (27 Photos) «TwistedSifter ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhmo3E )

05:40:31 trinque: pete_dushenski │ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1321680 << gabe, you keep track of the weirdest shit y'know << bwahahaha, bullying has delayed the cardano, and not the man reinventing every fucking component along the way?!?!

05:40:31 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 00:46:29; gabriel_laddel: Well folks, we're 202 days into MP's sustained attack on Stan's identity, and neither side shows signs of tiring. Meanwhile, the cardano languishes on the sidelines...

05:40:41 trinque: what a riot

05:45:10 pete_dushenski: lol "bullying"

05:45:41 pete_dushenski: because that's what civil discourse looks like from the bottom of the mountain or something

05:47:05 pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/TamerlaneBlog/status/664186730451333120 << lol fuckin askjeeves. the original web-based ai !

05:52:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00055694 = 1.1935 BTC [+] {2}

05:53:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5010 @ 0.00055574 = 2.7843 BTC [-] {2}

05:55:30 pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/08/women-gender-roles-sexism-emotional-labor-feminism << the depths of inequality have nothing on the depths of narcissistic noodles (esp. that of females)

05:55:31 assbot: 'Women are just better at this stuff': is emotional labor feminism's next frontier? | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhnz2T )

05:55:43 pete_dushenski: "“It suggests to me that there is a detachment to home that I do not have the luxury of having. Because if I did, then our everyday life would be a nightmare. So I take on that role. That’s not my authentic self, but I have no choice,” she says."

05:56:06 pete_dushenski: "is it time we started forgetting the birthdays too, time we stopped falsely screaming ecstasy, and demanded adequate, formal remuneration for emotion work provided in the workplace as a skill? Now that, right there, would probably be a shake-patriarchy-to-its-core revolution."

05:56:25 pete_dushenski: myeah, because the patriarchy is totally stealing those free smiles from you

05:56:37 pete_dushenski: time to make the man pay for EVERYTHING he's getting

05:56:46 pete_dushenski: "no moar phreebies!"

05:57:06 pete_dushenski: bbias

05:57:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.000558 = 5.3847 BTC [+] {2}

06:10:19 ben_vulpes: in other news, appfolio is a giant steaming pile of horseshit

06:10:40 ben_vulpes: a half-baked rails app pretending to be able to do things like manage billing and maintenance requests

06:11:41 ben_vulpes: not only do they have multiple login paths, some of which do not work and return entirely useless error messages

06:12:18 trinque: it must be some new security strategy, like ducks and their false vaginas.

06:12:28 ben_vulpes: but they will drop your regularly scheduled rent payment with no fucking notice

06:12:50 ben_vulpes: brian donahoo, of the "gotomeeting" bitcoin virus

06:12:53 mircea_popescu: punkman not any vacuums!

06:13:14 ben_vulpes: klaus schauser, idem

06:14:48 ben_vulpes: and particularly you, jon walker of appfolio, you miserable rails-propping, giving-no-shits-about-customer-banking, are all hereby fucking fired from having any future relevance.

06:15:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00055803 = 1.5067 BTC [+]

06:16:05 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/entrepreneur-proposes-gun-lockup-truck-outside-st-louis-sports-venues/article_cdd506bf-475c-56d0-a89d-7660647331b1.html

06:16:58 ben_vulpes: in particular re jon walker of appfolio, adjunct professorship is not a resume bullet. "multiple patents" under the auspices of the usg is not a resume bullet. you had a single job: shipping software that worked, and you failed. you failed spectacularly.

06:17:41 punkman: https://github.com/ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot oh god the dependencies

06:17:42 assbot: ArchiveTeam/ArchiveBot · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhp7da )

06:20:46 ben_vulpes: may all of you involved in the appfolio scam dance for venture capitalists for the rest of your lives. may your children emerge from college bearing hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. may your development teams never accomplish anything, and may you never know the reason why. may your lives complete devoid of meaning, wasting away in poverty and ignominy.

06:24:32 ben_vulpes: punkman: good to know i'm not the only one thinking about this

06:27:18 punkman: ben_vulpes: python, ruby, javascript, haxe, lua, redis, couchdb, zeromq, wget, wpull, curl, rsync, phantomjs, THIS LIST DOES NOT END

06:27:30 ben_vulpes: yeah

06:27:43 ben_vulpes: while nobody in the wot's issued fatwa against ruby yet, it doth loom.

06:27:56 ben_vulpes: haxe really?

06:27:59 ben_vulpes: good shit.

06:28:14 ben_vulpes: yech.

06:41:25 mircea_popescu: ha.

06:41:35 mircea_popescu: it IS an app. seriously, you had an expectation apps work ?

06:42:15 mircea_popescu: punkman is that the archive.is stuff or the imo bullshit alexa thing ?

06:42:29 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: appears to dump archives into archive.org

06:42:41 mircea_popescu: ah yeah. archive.org is ~ srsly ~ a piece of shit.

06:43:49 mircea_popescu: also i saw a man today showering out of a bucket, in front of someone's house. this man... he had tits. and i'm not kidding around, he had a pair of d's on him no girl'd be ashamed with. except they were in the ridiculous shape of manboob

06:43:52 mircea_popescu: so no good to anyone

06:44:54 mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/8195bf800302e86113adace2fb21c107/tumblr_mkqzh3g0nV1qf213go1_400.gif

06:44:57 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qhr2i1 )

06:44:58 mircea_popescu: white bitchez can't duck.

06:45:22 ben_vulpes: at risk of giving away crown jewelz, archiving without indexing for search is mind-bogglingly stupid.

06:46:23 mircea_popescu: i suspect that's the product.

06:49:00 punkman: mircea_popescu: what's wrong with archive.org?

06:49:18 mircea_popescu: they curate their "archive".

06:53:06 punkman: they accept all kinds of dumps

07:05:26 pete_dushenski: ;;nethash

07:05:27 gribble: 457697906.643

07:05:34 pete_dushenski: pretty steady

07:06:44 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: in the same news, 3/4 full pop can knocks white bitchez the fuck out. and black men ~can~ duck

07:10:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00055803 = 3.5714 BTC [+]

07:10:38 ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: "last i checked, and i actually checked", but no citation?

07:11:00 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: first-hand experience, my good man

07:11:12 pete_dushenski: i am the source of all words !

07:11:43 ben_vulpes: sure, but your particular setup is not particularly representative last i checked and i checked etc etc

07:12:28 pete_dushenski: not representative like my experience was unusual ?

07:13:29 pete_dushenski: tons of people sell cars, those are the numbers. and cars are the 2nd biggest ticket item after houses. and womenz are pretty much always involved, be it wives, gfs, mothers...

07:13:55 ben_vulpes: "oh, you want a 911? hm okay."

07:14:02 pete_dushenski: a $50-200k luxury good is a $50-200k luxury good

07:14:41 ben_vulpes: maersk is a big ticket. a car is a car.

07:15:20 pete_dushenski: and a watch is a watch. you see the problem with this line of logic ?

07:15:52 pete_dushenski: and we're talking about well-heeled families, not cargo !

07:16:22 pete_dushenski: yes, corporations are "persons" too. except not.

07:16:24 ben_vulpes: and i'm talking about capital allocation, not fashion.

07:16:51 pete_dushenski: if you're not talking about fashion, you're missing the point.

07:17:07 pete_dushenski: that's ~exactly~ what these "social goods" are

07:17:40 pete_dushenski: they're (attempts at) signal, whether valuable or not, useful or not, effective or not

07:18:37 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 7.96587754 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b60

07:18:57 punkman: the hedging

07:22:32 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell gabrielradio please to translate http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321447. i wanna take a stab at countering mp's position on historical buildings !

07:22:32 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 22:23:58; *: mircea_popescu is in principle opposed to scanning books for the same reason he was against the "preservation of historical buidlings" in http://fraudsters.com/2009/el-ingenioso-hidalgo-don-quijote-de-la-mancha-si-conul-andrei-pippidi/ (and summarized in http://fraudsters.com/2009/n-am-putea-sa-avem-si-noi/#selection-49.186-53.326 )

07:22:33 gribble: The operation succeeded.

07:23:50 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321452 << unless the whole argument hinges on state intervention, in which case... yeah, that's a point.

07:23:50 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 22:25:29; mircea_popescu: ie, there, "it's not the job of the state to protect the cultural patrimony OF INDIVIDUALS and their clans ; if those individuals and clans are so degenerate, bankrupt and chlorotioc as to no longer be able to protect their heritage, let the worms havce it. no, not even for comunist metaphisics ; no, the property of x isn't "ours", no x's history isn't "ours". let them uphold it or let it die.

07:25:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.00055803 = 2.7622 BTC [+]

07:31:13 mircea_popescu: it does.

07:41:12 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 15.89800000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b22

07:49:15 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 9.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b61

07:54:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00055803 = 1.5067 BTC [+]

08:00:34 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b62

08:09:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4165 @ 0.00055703 = 2.32 BTC [-] {2}

08:13:32 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b63

08:31:02 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/10/the-danger-of-unchecked-assumptions-or-the-surprising-depths-of-inequality/#comment-34730

08:31:03 assbot: The danger of unchecked assumptions, or the surprising depths of inequality. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1RNtr1v )

08:31:03 gribble: The operation succeeded.

08:46:16 BingoBoingo: lol http://www.infosecinstitute.com/security-awareness/

08:46:17 assbot: Security Awareness Training- Candidate Scorecard ... ( http://bit.ly/1koAzXF )

08:47:15 pete_dushenski: go ben !

08:49:23 BingoBoingo: I support Dr. Carson because he is a neurosurgeon who is quite a few shades darker than Obama

08:49:49 BingoBoingo: None of this community organizer bullshit. Dr. Carson cut people open and reassembled them.

08:50:40 pete_dushenski: did he build a $6 mn man for a running mate ?

08:54:34 ben_vulpes: > Pro

08:54:41 ben_vulpes: > Requires HTTPS

08:56:26 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: To be determined

09:03:00 BingoBoingo: Moar drama http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/columns/joe-holleman/mizzou-hunger-strike-figure-from-omaha-son-of-top-railroad/article_20630c03-2a68-5e63-9585-edde16fe05f3.html

09:03:23 BingoBoingo: "He is a member of a prominent Omaha family. The newspaper says that Butler's father is Eric L. Butler, executive vice president for sales and marketing for the Union Pacific Railroad."

09:03:28 punkman: https://www.google.com/search?num=50&safe=off&q=inurl%3A"README_FOR_DECRYPT.txt"

09:03:34 assbot: inurl:"README_FOR_DECRYPT.txt" - Recherche Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqDQfT )

09:06:32 BingoBoingo: The effect of cultural Fukishima on athlete recruitment https://archive.is/yWSDP

09:06:32 assbot: Ja’Mari Ward will be a Missouri Tiger | Belleville News-Democrat ... ( http://bit.ly/1koBGGV )

09:13:19 ben_vulpes: > Pro

09:13:21 ben_vulpes: > Building a security team. Runs up-to-date software.

09:13:42 ben_vulpes: > Con

09:13:43 ben_vulpes: > Large attack surface that relies on a quickly-built custom application.

09:14:04 punkman: what's all that

09:14:25 ben_vulpes: good ol' specificity of diddling.

09:14:45 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo's infosec link.

09:15:14 ben_vulpes: website is marvelous

09:16:25 ben_vulpes: "live hacking fun!"

09:16:32 ben_vulpes: ahaha why am i looking at this

09:16:55 BingoBoingo: Morbid curiosity

09:21:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00055803 = 3.0971 BTC [+]

09:27:35 BingoBoingo: ;;ud freelapse

09:27:36 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Freelapse | Freelapse. A free high that does not count as a relapse for those who are clean and sober, acquired through the following: 1. The effects of anesthesia, during or  ...

09:28:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4686 @ 0.00055803 = 2.6149 BTC [+]

09:35:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6056 @ 0.0005566 = 3.3708 BTC [-] {3}

10:03:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2100 @ 0.00055571 = 1.167 BTC [-] {2}

10:17:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00055803 = 7.087 BTC [+]

10:21:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3592 @ 0.00055803 = 2.0044 BTC [+]

10:51:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00055803 = 1.2115 BTC [+]

11:22:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00055803 = 1.702 BTC [+]

11:31:35 shinohai: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831595.msg12944722#msg12944722

11:31:36 assbot: Get FREE Bitcoins and win AMAZON gift cards in Provably Fair games! | BitGame ... ( http://bit.ly/1MA3nH3 )

11:31:57 shinohai: Amazon GC ?

11:33:10 shinohai: https://twitter.com/SatoshiShinohai/status/664215324410159104 <<< LOL

11:46:29 shinohai: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boy-8-faces-murder-charge-beating-death-ala-toddler-article-1.2430617

11:46:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O3dKCw )

11:51:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00055803 = 1.0603 BTC [+]

12:05:06 adlai: BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/2J7PVRD.txt

12:05:07 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O3f0FC )

12:10:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00055986 = 3.919 BTC [+] {5}

12:35:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8818 @ 0.00056176 = 4.9536 BTC [+]

12:47:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0005569 = 2.339 BTC [-] {3}

12:50:25 shinohai: http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/270075/sarah-furay-arrested-meth-texas/ <<< well she obviously wasn't too dumb to sling dope.

12:50:26 assbot: Texas cops arrest adorable drug kingpin ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnAfPV )

13:00:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2027 @ 0.00056175 = 1.1387 BTC [+] {2}

13:01:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00056176 = 1.0112 BTC [+]

13:21:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00055457 = 2.6619 BTC [-] {3}

13:25:15 punkman: fun website http://smalltownnoir.com/2011/02/17/elizabeth-miller-liquor-violation-5-june-1948-2/

13:25:17 assbot: Elizabeth Miller, “liquor violation”, 5 June 1948 | Small Town Noir ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hydc8h )

13:36:56 BingoBoingo: Imma guess Miller ended up working for the circus?

13:37:54 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Apple will trade above $150 on or before New Year's Day 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1159/apple-will-trade-above-150-on-or-before/#b19

13:39:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00056175 = 2.1347 BTC [+] {2}

14:02:17 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

14:02:23 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 318.11, vol: 62146.30724195 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 320.414, vol: 30509.89202 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 320.54, vol: 148924.05969853 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 330.0, vol: 8.72185677 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 321.478443, vol: 140909.47320000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 320.0, vol: 226.16107716 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 327.478499989, vol: 313.31557695 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

14:02:24 BingoBoingo: ;;more

14:02:25 gribble: average: 320.486506754

14:06:48 BingoBoingo: http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/nation/article/Unwanted-twerking-leads-to-sexual-abuse-charges-6622396.php#photo-8934923

14:06:49 assbot: Unwanted twerking leads to sexual abuse charges - Houston Chronicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1SIyzF3 )

14:15:13 jurov: sooo... my stator is @ 376820, would be synced in 2 weeks if i did not hit my foot with btrfs

14:16:02 jurov: also, it seems to work fine with oldest 9 blk000?.dat on slower disk

14:16:09 shinohai: Nice jurov ... just got mine back up a week ago @ height 356995 currently

14:17:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00055904 = 1.6212 BTC [-]

14:17:49 jurov: also noteworthy that the dirt-cheap ssd survived it all ( http://www.dx.com/p/kingdian-s200-smi2246xt-2-5-sata3-solid-state-drive-ssd-black-60gb-396568#.VkNNwXb9_mE )

14:17:50 assbot: KingDian S200 SMI2246XT 2.5" SATA3 Solid State Drive SSD - Black (60GB) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( http://bit.ly/1SIA2uR )

14:18:51 *: shinohai still needs an SSD to test on, uses cruddy lappy drives.

14:24:24 jurov: i'm syncing over LAN from core 0.10, just to complete the picture

14:25:14 jurov: btw, is it possible to continue running a blockchain synced on amd64 on pogo?

14:41:34 shinohai: jurov seems to work here, I cat'd a few over to pogo and it syncs against it ^^

14:49:46 asciilifeform: jurov, shinohai: pogo is a little-endian arch so it ought to work

14:51:46 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/pLjy5

14:51:47 assbot: Best way to powder with minimal product loss? : cocaine ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnIw6g )

14:55:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00056175 = 2.1627 BTC [+] {2}

15:16:38 BingoBoingo: http://www.france24.com/en/20151110-france-iran-president-rouhani-objects-french-wine-paris-visit

15:16:40 assbot: france 24 - Wine before diplomacy: Iran snubs French state dinner invite over alcohol - France 24 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnL7gy )

15:17:21 thestringpuller: ;;calc 780 - 450 - 200 - 75

15:17:21 gribble: 55

15:18:21 PeterL: Is it more insulting to offer wine to Muslims or to turn down wine from Frenchies?

15:19:53 BingoBoingo: No idea, perhaps davout can weight in on this matter

15:21:37 asciilifeform: http://www.france24.com/en/20151103-crocodiles-starve-after-us-freezes-elite-honduras-familys-assets << l0lz

15:21:38 assbot: Flash - Crocodiles starve after US freezes elite Honduras family's assets - France 24 ... ( http://bit.ly/1MnLN5x )

15:22:05 shinohai: #croclivesmatter

15:33:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00056199 = 3.2033 BTC [+] {2}

16:02:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3321 @ 0.00056211 = 1.8668 BTC [+]

16:04:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.0005622 = 2.305 BTC [+] {2}

16:07:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00055768 = 2.1365 BTC [-] {2}

16:17:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2942 @ 0.00056226 = 1.6542 BTC [+]

16:19:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.0005557 = 2.3339 BTC [-] {4}

17:09:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.0005544 = 1.4137 BTC [-]

17:10:59 lobbes: !up ascii_field

17:18:21 mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> I support Dr. Carson << so soes every other reasonable / educated / middle class guy i know in there. which is how i know he doesn't have a chance in hell.

17:20:07 mircea_popescu: <shinohai> Amazon GC ? <<< every time i see one of these marketed i grin. because i know about eulora, and they don't, and somehow the fact that the swarm loses out pleases me.

17:20:37 ascii_field: ... GC ... << garbage collector ?

17:21:09 shinohai: lol

17:21:30 mircea_popescu: <PeterL> Is it more insulting to offer wine to Muslims << this is not insulting to muslims. it is only insulting to 3rd generation americans who pretend mulsimity to fill the existential void.

17:21:53 mircea_popescu: otherwise, every time in an islamic country i was everyone's best friend on account of the magic my passport could wreak at the "special shop for foreigners".

17:22:18 mircea_popescu: ascii_field aptly named, but no : for the underclass "gc" means "gift certificate"

17:22:33 mircea_popescu: they even have pavlovian responses to it, like a sort of "privately run bell", salivation begins.\

17:22:35 ascii_field: l0l!

17:22:37 mircea_popescu: "almost like the state dole!"

17:24:41 mircea_popescu: "I never knew Pirate were a shining star of brilliance and intellectual depth?

17:24:41 mircea_popescu: And I hear Buterin just got 44,000 BTC smarter." << lol alfie massacring the priesthood.

17:28:47 pete_dushenski: http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/ben-bernanke/posts/2015/11/09-budgetary-sleight-of-hand << bernanke stickin' it to the man

17:28:48 assbot: Budgetary sleight-of-hand | Brookings Institution ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuC0K )

17:29:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.000558 = 2.0367 BTC [-]

17:30:55 mircea_popescu: ascii_field https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice http://www.aliexpress.com/popular/metal-computer-mouse.html etc

17:30:57 assbot: World's Best Quality Gaming Mice | SteelSeries ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuNct )

17:30:58 assbot: Popular Metal Computer Mouse-Buy Cheap Metal Computer Mouse lots from China Metal Computer Mouse suppliers on Aliexpress.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuNcz )

17:30:58 pete_dushenski: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crickhowell-welsh-town-moves-offshore-to-avoid-tax-on-local-business-a6728971.html << just as crafty as >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-11-2015#1321288

17:30:58 assbot: Crickhowell: Welsh town moves 'offshore' to avoid tax on local business | UK | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROuNsO )

17:30:58 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 15:29:16; punkman: "A wealthy, elderly man, for example, could technically marry the father of his daughter’s children. This would enable an estate of any size to pass tax-free into the next generation on the older man’s death. After his elderly “husband” had died, of course, the younger man would be free to marry the daughter, with the estate thus secured intact."

17:31:07 *: mircea_popescu also had occasion to hold one of these in house of avid gamer

17:31:10 mircea_popescu: so stop being such a baby!

17:31:45 *: pete_dushenski is enjoying the rat9 that alf recommended

17:31:57 pete_dushenski: the adjustable palm grip is a godsend for these big mitts

17:32:29 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322017 << 1) i see plastic parts in ALL of these with naked eye 2) WITHOUT EXCEPTION the internals (clickers) are standard

17:32:29 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 17:30:55; mircea_popescu: ascii_field https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice http://www.aliexpress.com/popular/metal-computer-mouse.html etc

17:32:41 ascii_field: and wear very, very quickly.

17:32:46 mircea_popescu: uh.

17:33:13 mircea_popescu: you know the reason everything was steel in the 70s was because they couldn't mold plastics worth a shit yea ?

17:33:26 ascii_field: naturally

17:33:30 ascii_field: but why does the reason matter?

17:33:39 ascii_field: the didn't know how to make ersatz chocolate, either

17:34:16 mircea_popescu: \

17:38:34 mircea_popescu: And ?social goods? is how we got to be surrounded by idiots and their trinkets to begin with. << yet again and again it comes back to the name of the rose, and the old monk's hater of laughter.

17:38:38 mircea_popescu: hatred*

17:38:42 mircea_popescu: whatever shall we do.

17:38:45 ascii_field: l0l!!

17:38:53 *: ascii_field loves that thing with a vengeance

17:38:54 mircea_popescu: how to separate the chimp from good humor

17:39:16 mircea_popescu: i confess this is perhaps my foremost area of research at the present time

17:39:26 mircea_popescu: and boy oh boy does it require atomic dirigible ciclotrons.

17:40:10 mircea_popescu: ascii_field you've perhaps noticed me doing a credible impersonation of the old fart yest i imagine.

17:40:27 ascii_field: aha

17:41:23 mircea_popescu: the problem with kids reading above their paygrade (which is to say, the sort of typically ustardian kid who, instead of coming at it plainly and getting trampled AT HIS LOWER LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING protects his ego through "ironicity" and interacts with the written excrement of great forefathers at a time when it's safe to do so [ie, afrter the "death of the author]) is that they ALWAYS misinterpret the silences.

17:41:42 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

17:42:47 ascii_field: 'Now the Sirens have a still more fatal weapon than their song, namely their silence. And though admittedly such a thing has never happened, still it is conceivable that someone might possibly have escaped from their singing; but from their silence certainly never.' (ol' franz k.)

17:42:57 mircea_popescu: hehehe

17:44:21 mircea_popescu: it IS, btw, a very fine understanding of the matter at hand. it is in things such as these that we (ie, actually cultivated folk) recognize that people like kafka, or nietzsche, or picasso or who have you actually IS a master, who just chooses to go at it differently.

17:44:43 mircea_popescu: inept kids just imagine "art was revolutionezed and the old thrown out". not so, but who can be arsed to discuss the matter with novices in their terms.

17:44:57 mircea_popescu: anyway : kafka is exactly right, and this is where the siren story meets narcissus' story.

17:45:04 ascii_field: hey i've even run into folks who imagined that 'physics was thrown out'

17:45:16 mircea_popescu: i confess i was reading all through the (very fine!) tlp piece on narcissus expecting a kafka reference at any point

17:45:28 mircea_popescu: that it never came is to my eyes proof that, willing or not, you ARE redoing galois by hand, alf.

17:46:48 ascii_field: this sorta plugs into the root of my allergy for tlp

17:46:58 ascii_field: and why i can stand maybe 5 min. of him in one sitting:

17:47:14 ascii_field: he seeps with pus from sores of radiation damage from amer. 'pop'

17:47:27 mircea_popescu: see ? i could read the whole thing through because also horses!

17:49:03 mircea_popescu: anyway, the symmetry with orlov is oddly lolz.

17:49:34 ascii_field: howsthat?

17:55:26 ascii_field: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/11/09/the-nsa-school-how-the-intelligence-community-gets-smarter-secretly << l0ltr0nic

17:55:27 assbot: The NSA school: How the intelligence community gets smarter, secretly - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROx734 )

17:56:28 mircea_popescu: well because i can't stand the bullshit "will to power" prose of the derp, either.

17:57:00 mircea_popescu: oh check it out, he's gonna be the next best thing to a super secret service agent aka "practically james bond" : he's gonna be a ~practically~ secret service guy!

17:57:16 ascii_field: wai wut

17:57:33 *: pete_dushenski has tickets to 'spectre' this afternoon, with modest expectations

17:58:40 ascii_field: 'Gosh, all of this warm fuzzy coverage of the NSA just brings a tear of thanks to my eye. While you're at it, could you do a puff piece on Stasi, and the KGB/camp system in the Soviet Union? I'm sure they did a spectacular job saving lives and keeping people safe, as well.' << from the not-yet-censored commentz

17:58:47 shinohai: Christophor Waltz may save it.

17:59:03 mircea_popescu: aha

17:59:08 pete_dushenski: shinohai: and moo-eyes !

17:59:16 shinohai: ^^

17:59:55 mircea_popescu: "The House voted Thursday to pay for planned highway construction by drawing on the Federal Reserve?s capital. The idea of using Fed capital to pay for government spending, which comes up periodically, is a bad one, for several reasons."

18:00:00 mircea_popescu: where was it, i gotta find it now

18:01:11 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/digging-through-archives-yields-gold/#selection-117.407-117.615

18:01:12 assbot: Digging through archives yields gold on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROxESz )

18:01:29 mircea_popescu: " but they find easy money too seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful"

18:02:14 mircea_popescu: "More substantively?and this is what I want to focus on in this post??paying? for highway spending with Fed capital is not paying for it at all in any economically meaningful sense. Rather, this maneuver is a form of budgetary sleight-of-hand that would count funds that are already designated for the Treasury as ?new? revenue."

18:02:20 asciilifeform: !up analmaster

18:02:22 analmaster: yo

18:02:24 ascii_field: analmaster !

18:02:27 analmaster: hello

18:02:28 analmaster: http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/mizzou-students-hallucinate-kkk-on-campus/

18:02:29 assbot: Mizzou Students Hallucinate KKK On Campus | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROxIBY )

18:02:30 mircea_popescu: exactly. ie, the usg needs, for continued survival, to count all its money TWICE

18:02:31 mircea_popescu: in 2015.

18:02:33 analmaster: im here with good papers

18:02:35 mircea_popescu: and in 2020 ?

18:02:43 pete_dushenski: thrice !

18:03:39 mircea_popescu: "does this mean i sell the government a truckload of pork and it pays me for it three times ?" "no dummy, it means that if you do enter into a contract with them to sell them one truckload of pork you a) will never get paid and b) will have to deliver three truckloads. yearly. daily. fuck you!!1"

18:04:35 mircea_popescu: (legal precedent : http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/#selection-81.0-81.349 aka "Plaintiff seeks to make his case solely upon the theory that, by reason of the change in the weight of the dollar he is entitled to $1.69 in the present currency for every dollar promised by the bond, regardless of any actual loss he has suffered with respect to any transaction in which his dollars may be used. We think th

18:04:36 assbot: The endless story of Korea. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROxZos )

18:04:36 mircea_popescu: at position is untenable.")

18:04:43 mircea_popescu: YOU HAVE SUFFERED NO LOSS1111!11

18:06:10 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322083 << bonus: the washpost piece analmaster linked me to yesterday, has vanished into the aether

18:06:10 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 18:02:28; analmaster: http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/11/mizzou-students-hallucinate-kkk-on-campus/

18:06:13 ascii_field: without a trace

18:06:50 jurov: as children we were playing toy casino, and when the chips ran out we invented that we issue new ones,

18:06:54 pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller

18:06:55 jurov: but to avoid inflation, we always got a negative and positive paper with the same value together

18:06:59 mircea_popescu: they gotta pull stories multiple times a day each day by now huh ?

18:07:04 jurov: but each could be played independently

18:07:11 jurov: we had endless fun with it

18:07:11 mircea_popescu: the whole libtard charade literally busting at seams.

18:07:18 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: dunno if in logs but is there gonna be an MPOE statement this month?

18:07:21 jurov: seems we invented fed

18:07:29 mircea_popescu: jurov aha.

18:07:30 analmaster: they do

18:07:38 analmaster: they redact things without even saying they are redacting things

18:07:40 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller next month, that and mpif.

18:07:44 analmaster: like there will be no trace of anything on the internets

18:07:47 thestringpuller: k.

18:08:03 mircea_popescu: analmaster and tghere isn't , becausw really, who gives a shit what the agitprop machine "says".

18:08:08 ascii_field: 'doubleplus ungood, refs unpersons'

18:08:08 mircea_popescu: i don't read them anyway.

18:08:56 analmaster: i cant wait to send my children to a nice school like this one

18:09:53 analmaster: mircea_popescu: where do i go to live to escape this amerikkka

18:09:54 mircea_popescu: make girls then.

18:10:26 mircea_popescu: analmaster you ever read http://fraudsters.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/ ?

18:10:27 assbot: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1k32ZX6 )

18:10:49 ascii_field: at my uni we had two separate incidents, complete with organized mooing, 'candlelight vigils', protest marches, etc. of 'nooses found' (noose is supposed to be a symbol of impending lynching, yes...) - one turned out to be a popped balloon's string on a tree, the other - was never seen by any witness save the instigator of the hysteria

18:12:01 mircea_popescu: you wanna tell me an entire campus never does erotic asphyxiation ?

18:12:07 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:12:13 *: mircea_popescu has a pre-made noose in this very house! nice thick rope too.

18:12:15 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: on a tree ?

18:12:23 mircea_popescu: so they got drunk and threw it out the window.

18:12:39 *: mircea_popescu has observed dildo and paraphenalia rain out of window on campus b4.

18:37:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3537 @ 0.00055868 = 1.9761 BTC [+]

18:38:10 pete_dushenski: "Last December, when Rolling Stone’s account of a brutal gang rape at the University of Virginia began to unravel, some commentators argued that we should nevertheless take claims of sexual assault at face value, on the grounds that statistically, they are very likely true. “I choose to believe Jackie,” Jessica Valenti wrote in The Guardian. “I lose nothing by doing so, even if I’m later proven wrong.

18:38:11 pete_dushenski: ” In The Washington Post, Zerlina Maxwell argued: “We should believe, as a matter of default, what an accuser says. Ultimately, the costs of wrongly disbelieving a survivor far outweigh the costs of calling someone a rapist.”"

18:38:18 pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/04/magazine/the-lessons-of-stanfords-sex-assault-case-reversal.html

18:38:22 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROB6N7 )

18:39:27 pete_dushenski: jessica, you lose EVERYTHING by affirming the right, nay, the duty to be a victim.

18:39:41 pete_dushenski: society, culture, the whole lot. gone. out the window. never coming back.

18:40:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5629 @ 0.00056011 = 3.1529 BTC [+] {4}

18:40:31 pete_dushenski: the weak are in the right... never.

18:41:29 pete_dushenski: https://www.facebook.com/nntaleb/posts/10153421745588375 << where alf wants to live, taleb's 'rural past'

18:41:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ROBr2t )

18:41:50 pete_dushenski: less show-offy, more 'vertical' social life

18:42:44 pete_dushenski: !up ascii_field

18:47:36 jurov: i read in south america there still some of that system survives.. but i guess mircea_popescu is not interested in herding peasants

18:47:41 jurov: and alf even less

18:49:28 phf: there are stores in u.s. where you can buy some quality rope. hemp, jute, nylon in garish colors, all by the meter. there's probably a harness worth of rope next to a dildo collection in every dorm

18:49:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00055634 = 2.1141 BTC [-] {4}

18:50:15 jurov: it's disguised as macrame

18:51:11 phf: different rope, although i wouldn't be surprised..

19:12:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2431 @ 0.00055392 = 1.3466 BTC [-]

19:30:36 kakobrekla: log dump in the form of a single fat file http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/log/

19:30:36 assbot: Index of /log/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1M7jZEB )

19:30:50 kakobrekla: get synced hourly

19:32:00 phf: kakobrekla: is the first column, the #id ?

19:32:31 kakobrekla: yeah

19:32:40 trinque: nice.

19:33:15 trinque: what's a reasonable deeding interval, weekly?

19:33:54 kakobrekla: well are you going to keep weekly 100mb+ copies of log saved somewhere?

19:34:03 mircea_popescu: except claims of "Sexual assault" made by a native english speaker are very likely false.

19:34:16 trinque: kakobrekla: I could diff them on my end, or you could chunk them on yours

19:34:26 kakobrekla: i guess you could compress em as well

19:34:44 mircea_popescu: i would expect less than 1% odds of them ACTUALLY being sexual assault, and perhaps as little as 5-10% of them being some sort of contravention.

19:34:55 mircea_popescu: so, no.

19:34:55 kakobrekla: well i asked before if you want it chunked or not and the answer was not

19:35:24 trinque: did I say that?

19:35:36 kakobrekla: mp did!

19:35:41 kakobrekla: blame him

19:35:49 mircea_popescu: <pete_dushenski> less show-offy, more 'vertical' social life << jurov you are fucking crazy if you imagine the thirld worlders are BETTER at being real. they all got tvs over here. every god forsaken favela in brazil, salta, what have you has a tv. no fridge, but tv.

19:36:02 mircea_popescu: so no, they're even more wanna-be than you'd expect.

19:36:14 jurov: what?

19:36:58 mircea_popescu: wasn't that your idea ? that in fabled south america people didn't actually invent the telenovela ?

19:37:45 trinque: kakobrekla: in either case, once we settle on what gets deeded, I'm happy to rig up the cron and make it happen

19:38:11 kakobrekla: if you need it chunked ill chunk

19:38:22 mircea_popescu: that's prolly better so as not to bw.

19:38:37 kakobrekla: bw?

19:38:41 mircea_popescu: bandwidth

19:38:45 jurov: point taken, even the remnants of nobility in rural argentina don't have vertical social anymore

19:38:48 mircea_popescu: you know, 100mb every day ? what is this, the blockcain ?

19:39:48 kakobrekla: but daily chunks isnt most practical

19:40:15 mircea_popescu: why not ? could just make directory structure like fraudsters does it, by year/month/eachday.txt

19:40:16 mircea_popescu: no good ?

19:41:02 mircea_popescu: i suppose actually the eachday.txt is the log already.

19:41:10 kakobrekla: aha

19:41:13 phf: yyyy-mm-dd.txt

19:41:15 mircea_popescu: maybe just make each month ?

19:42:07 mircea_popescu: phf no because after 60 years it will break bfrs :D

19:44:19 mircea_popescu: jurov thinking about it, the non-people's desire to not-exist is pungent. palpable. yet they keep getting their ways out denied, "oh, war is bad", "oh, suicide is the wrong answer" or blablabla. can't even lick lead paint anymore, can't ride without helmets, honestly we deserve everything we get for stubbornly keeping the dead alive against nature and its own fucking wishes.

19:45:27 phf: in 60 years will be using "f", a fits in head filesystem implementation by ascii, that can store terabytes of data, but technically indistinguishable from tape archive

19:46:00 mircea_popescu: i still haven't figured out if he loves immutable (ie, tar) or else volatile (ie, party bits).

19:49:15 phf: <asciilifeform> speaking of tape, i've always lamented that no one sells a reel-to-reel for modern pc

19:49:34 mircea_popescu: aha.

19:49:44 phf: but that was not the thread i was looking for..

19:54:25 phf: there we go http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1218601

19:54:25 assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 20:30:25; ascii_field: nothing on a pc is 'append only' !

19:54:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.00055356 = 1.3872 BTC [-] {3}

19:56:31 trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1218591

19:56:31 assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 20:25:52; ascii_field: keep all blocks in antifuse rom

19:59:39 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:59:45 ascii_field: things that have no business mutating, ought to live on a physical 'WORM' sorta thing

19:59:50 ascii_field: no mega-mystery here.

20:12:53 kakobrekla: chunked my month now http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/log/

20:12:54 assbot: Index of /log/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1M7jZEB )

20:13:19 pete_dushenski: who said you could have that month ?

20:14:14 trinque: kakobrekla: wonderful, ty. I will cron their deeding this evening.

20:15:56 phf: kakobrekla: is the current month updating at that 10 minute interval?

20:16:11 kakobrekla: currently set at 1h

20:16:18 phf: kk

20:16:29 kakobrekla: i can make it go faster if you need

20:20:47 phf: no 1h works for me

20:21:40 pete_dushenski: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTiHwzdUkAAUpqY.jpg << or why china doesn't need african labour

20:21:41 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaBBvv )

20:29:24 *: pete_dushenski to movie

20:32:46 lobbes: !up ascii_field

20:41:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00055352 = 1.3284 BTC [-]

21:01:33 whaack: hey again, I've been working on my "IRC Yeshiva" and been patiently lurking. I wanted to let you know you have another programmer pretty much at your disposal should you need one.

21:02:14 ben_vulpes: good morning whaack

21:02:33 ben_vulpes: have you taken mod6 or asciilifeform's 'v' for a spin yet?

21:02:54 ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field

21:02:55 whaack: I've looked at it, and I saw in the comments it needed testing so I figured maybe that's where I could start.

21:03:55 ben_vulpes: if you're feeling adventurous you could try installing gabriel_laddel's masamune and then scream into the log about gentoo quest

21:10:46 mircea_popescu: lovely kakobrekla

21:11:26 mircea_popescu: whaack cool, so pick something to do!

21:11:55 mircea_popescu: perhaps try and help mod6, he's doing a ton of different things, maybe he has time later today/this week to give out discrete tasks

21:14:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00055406 = 2.9919 BTC [+]

21:16:25 whaack: Great, I'll try to install masamune in the meantime.

21:22:48 asciilifeform: !up analmaster

21:22:53 analmaster: http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=455510025&m=455510026

21:22:53 assbot: NPR Media Player ... ( http://bit.ly/1kNwBrl )

21:22:56 analmaster: ffast foward to 2:00

21:23:01 analmaster: can i get some black men over here please

21:23:05 analmaster: white men just will not do for the occasion

21:23:09 ascii_field: ^ actual quote

21:23:20 analmaster: takes a real men to do the job here, a real black man.

21:24:14 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/7a5b5056ece2b37cbe1f65c4e641cf88/tumblr_n4pltmeuxN1tx3t2qo1_1280.jpg << job.

21:24:15 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1kNwPyC )

21:24:15 ascii_field: rumour being, apparently, that the somewhat odd move of kicking out reporters is explained by there having been present 'komyoooonity organizers' from ferguson et al

21:24:51 analmaster: whoa

21:24:51 analmaster: rofl

21:24:54 analmaster: how is that a job

21:24:54 mircea_popescu: ascii_field the move of kicking out the media is not odd in the slightest.

21:25:03 ascii_field: odd for 'protest'

21:25:10 mircea_popescu: odd for dumbprotest ?

21:25:22 ascii_field: for the trad american sort aha

21:25:26 mircea_popescu: ima just quote tlp, because he has a very nice distillation of the problem :

21:26:30 mircea_popescu: If you hold a protest and you aren't throwing rocks it will fail. I'm not telling you to throw rocks, I'm explaining why your march won't work.

21:26:30 mircea_popescu: The reason "peaceful protests" don't work anymore is because now the protests are slower than the media coverage. When they threw the tea in Boston Harbor it was urgent, immediate, and by the time the press could interpret it it had already been digested by the public. But now even before the protest reaches critical mass the media, whose agents outnumber the protestors 100 to 1, has packaged and produced it, like

21:26:30 mircea_popescu: a reality show, and by the time Naomi Klein got there I had already been told to expect someone like her. Do you see? She had already appeared before she got there. Yes, I can take pride in thinking for myself but if I'm going to be honest, all I'm doing is reacting to what I'm told

21:27:02 mircea_popescu: the rules for successful are very simple : a) throw rocks ; b) no media.

21:28:06 mircea_popescu: obviously you can't make "the media" aka usg agitprop machine unhave all the vans and ex-sorority chicks and whatnot. so the only practical solution when you can't prevent them acting on their options is to limit their options to one.

21:28:16 mircea_popescu: throw rocks at the media, force them to pick the "evil people" narrative.

21:28:50 ascii_field: usg is on both sides of this chessboard

21:29:08 mircea_popescu: like soviet union was on both sides of THAT chessboard.

21:29:27 mircea_popescu: yes, they're all soviets. slightly hungry pissed off low level grunt soviets vs fatcat libertard soviets.

21:29:36 mircea_popescu: this happens to be good for bitcoin is all.

21:30:02 analmaster: soviet libtards exist?

21:30:06 analmaster: i thought they just throw them off the cliff

21:30:19 ascii_field: analmaster is posting from 1978

21:30:21 mircea_popescu: ascii_field understand : if the "huge hedge fund masquerading as church" engine gripes, the democrat party will have to be restructured.

21:32:04 mircea_popescu: and because of the communication problem (see http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-problem-of-ideal-social-systems-reprint/ ) they won't be able to do it smoothly.

21:32:05 assbot: The problem of ideal social systems - reprint on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1kNxPCT )

21:32:58 mircea_popescu: the grunts know why they're showing ivy league the dead cat. /me enjoys the popcorn while people we don't like fight to the death.

21:42:32 mircea_popescu: best "victims of our own success" story of the decade, really.

21:43:50 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

21:44:12 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: are you familiar with the process whereby the 'xyz studies1111!1' departments at u.s. univ. came to exist ?

21:44:27 ascii_field: (it was quite similar to what appears to be happening now)

21:44:37 analmaster: hrm

21:45:45 ascii_field: they 'came out of nowhere' in the 1960s-early-70s - as a concession to terro^H^H^H^H^protesters

22:07:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00055347 = 1.3283 BTC [-] {2}

22:12:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00055406 = 1.496 BTC [+]

22:14:53 mircea_popescu: ascii_field vaguelyu.

22:17:43 mircea_popescu: hm is it just me or is google ssl broken now ?

22:18:03 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

22:18:06 ascii_field: broken how

22:19:16 mircea_popescu: google.com serves cert for *.googlevideo.com

22:19:37 mircea_popescu: "issued by google internety authority g2" which is pretty lulzy but w/e.

22:19:58 ascii_field: not here

22:21:17 mircea_popescu: here however.

22:21:22 mircea_popescu: reproducibly, too.

22:26:46 mircea_popescu: well, firefox complains, but if i hit it up with curl on the same agent string it just hits a dumbass redirection thing. prolly some cookie based discrimination and fuck me if i have the patience to debugt the webshitstack.

22:26:54 mircea_popescu: let's leave it at "google ssl fails", it's good enough.

22:28:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00055406 = 1.0527 BTC [+]

22:48:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3984 @ 0.00055502 = 2.2112 BTC [+] {2}

23:06:48 ben_vulpes: http://daringfireball.net/2015/11/the_ipad_pro#fnr1-2015-11-11 << as predicted, apple is pushing tablets as their new compute station

23:06:49 assbot: Daring Fireball: The iPad Pro ... ( http://bit.ly/1WNgxHr )

23:06:49 ben_vulpes: rip steve

23:09:18 ben_vulpes: "First, when the iPad Pro is open with the keyboard attached, holding your arm up to touch the screen for anything longer than a moment or two is ergonomically uncomfortable. " << fucking duh, your arm wears out. human factors research on the shop floor demonstrated this decades ago, but does the american tech industry know or give a shit? ahahaha don't make me choke

23:10:10 ben_vulpes: "On iOS 9.1, Safari tries to support this, but it is dreadfully buggy. Instead of paging down just less than one screen-height of content, it pages down about 1.5 screen-heights of content." << continuing the "apple can't make usable software" thread

23:14:24 shinohai: I'd rather do everything with a quill pen and ink than use an ipad for anything.

23:14:39 jurov: give it to urmom

23:15:11 jurov: my bro won one, mom uses it for email

23:15:37 jurov: i tried to find simplest possible calculator app

23:15:53 jurov: guess what, it shows ads and error popups...

23:16:25 shinohai: If my mother were still around, she'd probably ask me how to install all the toolbars and IE.

23:28:39 deedbot-: [Qntra] Bitcoin Difficulty Jumps By Six-Month Record - http://qntra.net/2015/11/bitcoin-difficulty-jumps-by-six-month-record/

23:32:04 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the whole libtard charade literally busting at seams. << I'm telling you cultural fukishima. The core has breached

23:34:41 BingoBoingo: <phf> there are stores in u.s. where you can buy some quality rope. hemp, jute, nylon in garish colors, all by the meter. there's probably a harness worth of rope next to a dildo collection in every dorm << "Rural King" is the best of those places. Can get rifle, circus peanus, cattle prod, and flowers in the same trip.