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00:36:55 thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats

00:37:11 gribble: Current Blocks: 310316 | Current Difficulty: 16818461371.161 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 147 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17211594320.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.33751

00:48:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00289995 = 0.58 BTC [+] {2}

01:28:30 punkman: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-07-11/cynk-makes-the-case-for-buying-friends-naked-short-selling

01:28:30 assbot: Cynk Makes the Case for Buying Friends, Naked Short Selling - Bloomberg View

01:33:18 punkman: this Levine guy isn't so bad, even has footnotes

01:42:06 punkman: "I like Institutional Investor's boldness in picking "five hedge fund managers who are likely to deliver market-beating returns over the next 25 years." Who even manages a hedge fund for 25 years? If you deliver market-beating returns for 22 years, come on, retire, you are already fantastically rich"

01:57:08 mircea_popescu: ;p; fpptmptes

01:57:17 mircea_popescu: lol footnotes*

01:57:27 mircea_popescu: and nobody to date ran anything for 25 years

01:59:11 punkman: "You'll never deter Ponzi schemers; the psychology of Ponzi'ing -- either "I am an invincible genius" or "I've lost my investors money and have no choice but to Ponzi my way back into the black" -- sort of precludes deterrence."

01:59:33 punkman: "The best bet is to try to convince people not to invest all their money in undiversified opaque get-rich-quick schemes and, come, on, this is America."

02:01:51 mircea_popescu: quite.

02:02:01 mircea_popescu: there's no "deterring"

02:02:16 punkman: only killing

02:07:00 mircea_popescu: not really.

02:07:10 mircea_popescu: it's like "deterring" black mold in your bathroom.

02:07:26 mircea_popescu: fix the fucking plumbing. once the fed stops leaking, the mold goes away. big whoop

02:12:41 mircea_popescu: punkman shot the guy an email anyway.

02:22:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 208 @ 0.0031899 = 0.6635 BTC [+] {2}

03:24:05 []bot: Bet placed: 3.03897981 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.81522285 BTC. Current weight: 46,968.

05:00:42 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

05:00:43 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 634.84, Best ask: 637.44, Bid-ask spread: 2.60000, Last trade: 637.44, 24 hour volume: 7353.08856946, 24 hour low: 613.46, 24 hour high: 640.02, 24 hour vwap: 0

05:12:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00315212 = 1.2608 BTC [-] {7}

05:41:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 445 @ 0.00274113 = 1.2198 BTC [-] {7}

06:03:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 278 @ 0.00401781 = 1.117 BTC [-] {6}

06:08:57 benkay: <mircea_popescu> btw, if anyone's got 12 yos, get them "i sell the dead" // noted

06:14:35 benkay: aight i'm smokin some pots and listening to ah um

06:14:37 benkay: who's with me

06:20:03 benkay: https://twitter.com/jennschiffer/status/487703485807603714

06:21:18 mod6: o_O

06:27:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 351 @ 0.00319827 = 1.1226 BTC [+] {3}

06:30:34 *: mod6 is merging code & listening to NIN

06:34:10 mod6: %tslb

06:34:11 atcbot: 22 minutes and 34 seconds

06:38:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.00331898 = 0.9791 BTC [-]

06:45:34 *: benkay is reviewing tickets and listening to mingus

06:54:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.00332198 = 0.7474 BTC [+] {2}

07:34:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 62 @ 0.0154387 = 0.9572 BTC [+] {2}

07:59:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 952 @ 0.00322583 = 3.071 BTC [-] {6}

08:03:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2251 @ 0.00273236 = 6.1505 BTC [-] {7}

08:07:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 437 @ 0.00255511 = 1.1166 BTC [-] {6}

08:19:24 xmj: someone care to recommend a bitcoin client, gtk preferred?

08:20:42 benkay: i was recently made aware of a thing by the name of 'armoryd'

08:21:02 benkay: pyturd

08:21:14 benkay: plus cpp turd

08:21:15 *: xmj looks into electrum

08:21:47 benkay: mhm.

08:22:36 benkay: general idea is that 0.6 is okay.

08:41:20 mircea_popescu: * mod6 is merging code & listening to NIN << hurt ?

09:14:14 jurov: xmj i like electrum. at least client

09:14:27 xmj: cool

09:14:39 jurov: server is quite turd-ish if you wanna run own

09:15:03 fluffypony: jurov: it's not that bad, it's just not very well maintained

09:15:08 xmj: ugh

09:15:19 fluffypony: (-server I mean)

09:16:11 fluffypony: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum-server/issues/61 - that happens all the time, but erasmospunk's fix has been ignored

09:16:11 assbot: Server crash after restart while reorganizes the blockchain Issue #61 spesmilo/electrum-server GitHub

09:17:48 jurov: is this KeyError: " " ?

09:18:18 jurov: i can't run server recentl yat all, always get above shortly after start

09:18:28 fluffypony: never had keyerror

09:18:48 fluffypony: I struggled to get server working on Ubuntu 12.04, needed to install python-leveldb from backports and all sorts

09:19:27 xmj: jurov: looks like a variable that should be set isn't

09:19:53 jurov: i made it working even under pypy :) not very helpful, sunce it's io bound

09:20:05 jurov: but then it stopped working at all

09:20:23 jurov: things to look into someday...

09:31:36 HyperChetty: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Br2l9UDCUAAulw0.jpg

09:36:17 fluffypony: http://bitcoin.equipment

09:37:40 fluffypony: speaking of new TLDs

09:37:43 fluffypony: http://bitcoin.camera

09:37:45 assbot: Bitcoin.Camera

09:38:38 xmj: meh

09:39:07 xmj: i got a mail to my company address, asking if i'd wanted to buy chaot.net

09:39:10 xmj: er

09:39:13 xmj: .org

09:39:26 xmj: I have .net and don't use it but for email ... why do people not see such things :(

09:45:39 punkman: http://bitcoinsberlin.com/ any of these guys in the wot?

09:45:42 assbot: Bitcoin Startup Incubator - Bitcoins Berlin

09:46:08 fluffypony: https://medium.com/@TomOnBTC/second-biggest-member-of-bitcoin-foundation-involved-in-hacking-of-mt-gox-b97a3527b4ac

09:46:09 assbot: Second Biggest Member of Bitcoin Foundation Involved in Hacking of Mt.Gox Medium

09:46:20 fluffypony: "Not only does the Bitcoin Foundation suddenly make you seem reputable they will help you with this. They’ll post blogs about you joining, even sending out the “brass” to shill blogs such as CoinDesk to push you joining to others and making you seem further legit."

09:46:22 fluffypony: great quote

09:47:52 punkman: http://about.all4btc.com/1-million-euros-in-sales/

09:47:52 assbot: Year 1: 1 million in Sales | All4btc - Buy Anything with Bitcoin

10:28:37 kyuupichan: This miner filling blocks with satoshi spam isn't going away. Sigh.

10:29:07 cazalla: 1enjoy?

10:29:09 kyuupichan: At some stage he's gonna piss off enough people that they agree to ignore his block and continue to build on the prior one. That'd hurt.

10:41:28 punkman: kyuupichan: he could still spam the blockchain in 1000 other ways

10:44:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 230 @ 0.00251977 = 0.5795 BTC [-] {8}

11:46:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 388 @ 0.00237368 = 0.921 BTC [-] {9}

11:51:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19015952 = 1.9016 BTC [-] {5}

11:52:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.19002375 = 1.5202 BTC [-] {2}

11:53:37 pankkake: http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/

11:53:37 assbot: Kryptoradio by Koodilehto

11:58:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 39 @ 0.01566923 = 0.6111 BTC [+] {4}

12:31:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00239999 = 0.72 BTC [-] {2}

14:08:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 675 @ 0.00274426 = 1.8524 BTC [+] {4}

14:09:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 195 @ 0.0027612 = 0.5384 BTC [+]

14:55:06 mod6: lol @ the system Z pics. thanks kako, a bit nostalgic now.

15:32:05 artifexd: That was fun.

15:32:35 artifexd: Water cooling sprung a leak and blew my power supply. I guess it could've been worse.

15:35:55 mod6: :(

15:37:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 238 @ 0.00259516 = 0.6176 BTC [-] {2}

16:00:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.65387962 BTC to 11`062 shares, 14951 satoshi per share

16:01:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.82579312 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1724 satoshi per share

16:04:15 mircea_popescu: jurov: is this KeyError: " " ? << no that's some db issue

16:07:31 mircea_popescu: fluffypony lol the rat trap is falling apart is it ?

16:14:32 mircea_popescu: this medium.com platform is so fucking retarded...

16:14:41 mircea_popescu: so how do i leave a comment or anything to this tom guy ?

16:16:32 mircea_popescu: artifexd: Water cooling sprung a leak and blew my power supply. I guess it could've been worse. << yes, actually. you could have been electrocuted.

16:28:03 asciilifeform: artifexd: if water cooling, install 'ground fault interrupter'

16:29:08 asciilifeform: artifexd: common widget, usually installed inside kitchen mains sockets, which senses even small difference between current flowing in through 'hot' and leaving through 'neutral' wire (e.g. through your arse)

16:29:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.19960054 = 0.7984 BTC [+] {2}

16:37:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 330 @ 0.00250407 = 0.8263 BTC [-] {11}

16:41:35 mircea_popescu: yup must have.

16:41:36 artifexd: asciilifeform: Will a GFCI fire fast enough to save a power supply in the face of an internal short?

16:41:41 mircea_popescu: !up WasWoWieviel

16:41:53 mircea_popescu: !up bitstein

16:41:54 asciilifeform: artifexd: does nothing for a short. only for arse.

16:42:35 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's how i finaly allowed hairdryers et all in bathrooms.

16:43:05 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ground fault gizmos are SOP even in gringolandia now

16:43:22 artifexd: Yep. We have them in both bathrooms and all over the kitchen.

16:43:41 artifexd: Also, oddly, in my wife's office. Not in mine though.

16:43:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 113 @ 0.01551326 = 1.753 BTC [+] {4}

16:44:30 *: asciilifeform tired of drowned hardware many years ago, won't touch water cooling now

16:44:35 mircea_popescu: time to sue her ? :D

16:45:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you should prolly look into it again. you thinkl moore law's a big deal, give a look at plastics.

16:45:23 mircea_popescu: if an abstract "quality" value could be broadly associated, it went up a degree of magnitude each decade since 1960

16:46:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'correct' way to do it is to have an all-copper loop, soldered joints - like refrigerator. but, for some reason, no one does this.

16:47:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the friction joints (hose to barb) that end up slowly leaking.

16:47:28 mircea_popescu: some miners do it.

16:48:01 asciilifeform: the photos i saw were of immersive oil cooling (think transformer booth)

16:49:23 artifexd: asciilifeform: That's exactly what happened. One of the connections decided to call it quits. It's what I get for using barbs and not securing it.

16:50:03 mircea_popescu: artifexd you know you could just glue it on the outside.

16:50:20 artifexd: I prefer zip ties

16:50:32 asciilifeform: artifexd: mine had hose clamps on all joints. theory - clamping deforms the barb, you leak anyway.

16:51:12 artifexd: Ever had problems with the compression connectors?

16:51:39 asciilifeform: artifexd: there's probably a golden mean here. a real 'saint' with a dynamometer wrench probably could've tightened the clamps exactly enough.

16:52:31 artifexd: I need to find a single video card that can drive all my monitors. Then I can get rid of the water cooling.

16:52:42 mircea_popescu: artifexd why do you prefer zip ties over say caulk ?

16:53:28 artifexd: Zip ties are cheap, clean, provide uniform pressure, and are easy to remove with no mess.

16:54:50 mircea_popescu: but they work on the same principle as the barb does.

16:55:04 mircea_popescu: you want convergence of principles.

16:55:44 mircea_popescu: (this neatly dovetails in stan's "deform barbs" problem above : if you're building an army you don't want a 2nd cavalry, to argue with your 1st. you want an infantry too)

16:55:57 artifexd: The work in conduction with the barb. The barb provides interior pressure against the tube. The zip tie provides exterior pressure.

16:56:02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: part of the problem is the abysmal, 'consumer' quality of the available thermoblocks (pumbed heat sinks that fit particular cpu, gpu, etc) - not one, afaik, to this day, comes with even threaded connectors

16:56:17 asciilifeform: *plumbed

16:56:25 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but if they're metal... you can thread it

16:56:38 artifexd: Every one I has is threaded

16:57:08 artifexd: That's how you connect the barbs. Screw 'em in.

16:57:21 asciilifeform: artifexd: neat. these weren't available a decade ago.

16:57:39 mircea_popescu: artifexd imo the interior/exterior distinction is spurious. both work the same way really.

16:58:01 asciilifeform: the ones i had were machined copper encased in a plastic water jacket, with plastic barbs (non-removable)

16:58:09 artifexd: Ew

16:58:30 artifexd: Most decent water blocks don't come with connectors at all. Just threaded holes.

16:59:15 asciilifeform: artifexd: then the answer is clear. 'teflon' tape on the threads, connectors glued (or welded, if copper hose) to the tube.

17:00:47 *: mircea_popescu feels vindicated

17:01:04 artifexd: I don't think I would use copper tubes. My configuration changes too often.

17:01:13 *: asciilifeform was disappointed with water cooled machine even while it worked, on account of it still needing a few fans to operate: various parts for which no water block was available (chipset, mosfets, and power supply of that period)

17:02:29 artifexd: Waterblocks are available for just about everything now. It can take some looking. They aren't cheap. But they work well.

17:02:52 asciilifeform: artifexd: any that guarantee operation with 100% hermetically sealed case? (no case fans)

17:03:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.19100007 = 0.764 BTC [-] {3}

17:03:23 artifexd: The heat has to go somewhere

17:03:36 asciilifeform: pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air

17:04:03 asciilifeform: my sole objective was to get a silent machine

17:04:06 asciilifeform: failed.

17:04:34 artifexd: Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps.

17:05:21 artifexd: My ears aren't near as sensitive as yours so I'm good with a few slow moving fans on the radiator.

17:05:34 asciilifeform: artifexd: i used a 'toyota' radiator.

17:05:59 artifexd: A guy I work with used a car radiator and an aquarium.

17:06:15 artifexd: Ugly as hell, but it seemed to work for him.

17:06:40 artifexd: My system is all contained in the case.

17:07:34 asciilifeform: artifexd: ancient photo of machine in question: http://imgur.com/uE4oR6X

17:07:34 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

17:08:11 artifexd: Is that pex?

17:08:17 asciilifeform: pex?

17:08:51 artifexd: It's the plumbing replacement for copper. Flexible tubing.

17:09:10 artifexd: http://www.pexinfo.com

17:09:11 assbot: PEX Information

17:09:21 asciilifeform: artifexd: 'tygon'.

17:09:49 asciilifeform: from chemistry supply

17:10:05 artifexd: Ah

17:10:24 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air << not really. mostly actually cool through the metal of the pcb

17:10:36 mircea_popescu: if you keep the board cool they'll be fine

17:10:56 asciilifeform: now if only pcb had a 'water jacket' like engine block...

17:11:16 mircea_popescu: if you cool the bridges it'll cool through there.

17:11:33 asciilifeform: heuristic: if mosfet has even a small 'hedgehog', the board designer thought pcb trace cooling to be insufficient.

17:12:15 artifexd: Unless it's an Asus board. Then the designers thought it would look cool.

17:12:29 mircea_popescu: i'm telling you, they'll be fine. you're thinking in terms of air movement removing heat, but even in a sealed case,

17:12:38 mircea_popescu: you still have heat conductivity.

17:12:48 asciilifeform: the box in question would croak after 48 hrs. or so if the case was not ventilated.

17:12:59 mircea_popescu: as long as you keep most of the board cool, mostfets can't make enough heat to cook themselves.

17:13:17 mircea_popescu: well, was this the toyota radiator thing in the image ?

17:13:43 asciilifeform: water line ran through two cpus, disk jacket, gpu. there was still some air circulation from power supply (conventional air cooling.) but sans case fan, machine would croak reliably.

17:14:10 asciilifeform: the mosfets did not cook themselves - internal thermal trip. you get a shutdown.

17:14:44 mircea_popescu: how hot was the radiator getting ?

17:14:58 asciilifeform: about 40C, on a warm day.

17:15:26 asciilifeform: considering that it was designed to dissipate 100kw - reasonable.

17:15:31 mircea_popescu: were you cooling just the proc ? or bridges too ?

17:15:51 mircea_popescu: a, no, see, that's the key element here.

17:16:00 asciilifeform: idea was, bridges would be cooled by air drawn upwards by power supply fan.

17:16:03 mircea_popescu: <artifexd> Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps. <<<

17:16:08 mircea_popescu: nah.

17:17:31 mircea_popescu: you basically had no cold source on the pcb. all the things you cooled were meanwhile heating towards it.

17:17:32 asciilifeform: that box would have probably lasted forever if it never had to be moved.

17:19:57 asciilifeform: if i were to attempt it again, i'd probably just machine a copper plinth in which the mobo can live, upside-down, with fins on bottom side.

17:20:19 asciilifeform: if plinth is large enough, no need for water.

17:20:51 mircea_popescu: the one similar thing i saw was purpose made copper tray filled with thermosilicone, on which pcb rested.

17:21:00 mircea_popescu: (no cpu involved, this wasn't a computer)

17:21:12 asciilifeform: this is SOP for large rectifiers, etc.

17:21:42 asciilifeform: you get a 'sarcophagus' similar to the one pictured in the $20k oscilloscope film.

17:27:54 asciilifeform: that machine served me through all of uni & a bit longer. RIP 'humanoid', 2001-2007. (named after line from soviet film, approximately 'humanoid rockets through the sky, screaming out that school's a lie')

17:29:14 asciilifeform: freebsd 4.

17:31:36 mircea_popescu: i still have board/cpu assemblies from the 90s

17:31:49 asciilifeform: likewise. and '80s...

17:32:05 mircea_popescu: amusing how shitty psus became, incidentally. the originals usualy last > a decade. the replacements, maybe even 5 years.

17:32:10 mircea_popescu: then the replacements 2 if you're lucky.

17:33:04 asciilifeform: one can still achieve the 10+ life - by removing all chinese electrolytic caps and replacing with normal ones

17:33:38 asciilifeform: or, alternatively, purchasing a unit where there never were chinese caps (difficult now - the chicoms have taken to mimicking the japanese markings)

17:35:44 asciilifeform: at some point the japanese parts will no longer get shipped in (won't pass the geiger at the container crane!) and then we'll really be phucked.

17:41:23 punkman: http://domainincite.com/16963-a-million-domains-taken-down-by-email-checks

17:41:24 assbot: A million domains taken down by email checks | DomainIncite - Domain Name News & Opinion

17:44:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 48 @ 0.0156 = 0.7488 BTC [+]

17:49:57 punkman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart

17:49:57 assbot: Adrian Carton de Wiart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

17:57:46 mircea_popescu: punkman the success of "domainers" and domains being "real estate"

17:57:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00240361 = 0.9614 BTC [-] {7}

17:58:19 mircea_popescu: 10mn a year people had been paying just for those, in the hopes htey'll sell them on to suckers. something tells me 2013 had not colected 10mn worth of chump money.

17:58:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or, who knows, maybe the chinese start making actually good parts.

17:59:10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now why would they make those for export.

17:59:27 asciilifeform: (answer: they will - if you pay. but who will pay.)

17:59:59 *: asciilifeform randomly wandered into an old book store last night, saw a textbook on romanian language. every chapter opened with some example of torments from the 'russian yoke.'

18:00:37 *: asciilifeform saw that it was shelved - unsurprisingly - next to a volume of pushkin, in russian.

18:01:49 mircea_popescu: lol

18:02:23 mircea_popescu: if you had wandered into bookshelv in vienna cca 1814, you'd have seen the same book

18:02:26 mircea_popescu: ottoman yoke.

18:02:33 asciilifeform: naturally.

18:02:56 mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe 514, roman yoke

18:03:20 mircea_popescu: zee romanians have this yoke thing. at the rate the eu is going... by 2114...

18:10:31 mircea_popescu: http://sniggle.net/cole.php

18:10:37 mircea_popescu: this guy is pretty good.

18:10:44 mircea_popescu: " When he stumbled on a road crew without a foreman one day, Cole leaped into the breach and directed the men to London?s busy Piccadilly Circus, where he had them excavate a huge trench in the street. A nearby policeman obligingly redirected the heavy downtown traffic all day, and it was several hours before the city noticed the unauthorized hole.?

18:53:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 490 @ 0.00232034 = 1.137 BTC [-]

19:00:22 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/ken-park/

19:02:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 462 @ 0.00210002 = 0.9702 BTC [-] {4}

19:03:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1128 @ 0.0021 = 2.3688 BTC [-] {3}

19:05:33 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever see pasolini's 'salo' ?

19:06:04 mircea_popescu: oddly you're the 2nd person to ask me this today. has it just been re-released or something ?

19:06:19 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2012/salo-o-le-120-giornate-di-sodoma/

19:06:21 assbot: Salo, o le 120 giornate di Sodoma pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:06:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not afaik. just can't help but remember it in light of your post

19:06:37 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/soft-consensus-aka-fecal-matter/ (referenced there, and plenty of other places,

19:06:41 assbot: Soft consensus, aka fecal matter. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:06:43 asciilifeform: aha

19:06:50 mircea_popescu: in fact the monograph is a result of me getting sick of referencing it blind)

19:07:29 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2009/test-de-cultura-vizuala-2/ (early "visual culture test", too)

19:07:30 assbot: Test de cultura vizuala 2 pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:07:47 mircea_popescu: nobody guessed it x.x

19:08:27 mircea_popescu: o nm, actually, abuncha people guessed it.

19:12:25 asciilifeform: from the loltron: http://cryptome.org/2014/07/dprk-film-complaint.pdf

19:12:51 asciilifeform: ^ http://pastebin.com/WnmRuECG

19:12:51 assbot: United Nations A/68/934S/2014/451 General Assembly Security Counci - Pastebin.com

19:14:14 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can you name a film where the us president (named) is killed ?

19:14:58 mircea_popescu: "It is their firm determination to mercilessly destroy anyone who dares hurt or attack the supreme leadership of the country even a bit." shit sounds like john cleese was the copywriter in charge.

19:15:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only him and no one else?

19:15:39 BigBitz: Rik Mayll was helping before he died.

19:16:02 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just as long as it's "obama was killed"

19:16:14 mircea_popescu: or w/e,. bush, ford, pick your incumbent.

19:16:21 asciilifeform: films like 'dr strangelove' where 'everybody dies' not count ?

19:16:25 mircea_popescu: nope.

19:17:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 207 @ 0.0146999 = 3.0429 BTC [-] {4}

19:17:43 asciilifeform: 'They've Killed President Lincoln!' (1971.)

19:18:11 mircea_popescu: BigBitz what was it, coke ?

19:18:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not depiction of actual historical event.

19:18:25 BigBitz: what was what amigo?

19:18:27 mircea_popescu: killed by the novie.

19:18:31 mircea_popescu: BigBitz rik mayll

19:18:36 BigBitz: You don't know Rik Mayll bud?

19:18:45 mircea_popescu: i dont recall how he died

19:18:48 BigBitz: Very funny English Comedian/Writer.

19:18:52 BigBitz: He died after a run.

19:18:58 BigBitz: heart attack/complications.

19:19:01 mircea_popescu: didn't he just have a mysterious coronary ?

19:19:04 BigBitz: I don't believe drug related.

19:19:11 mircea_popescu: aha. i always thought it was cocaine

19:19:36 BigBitz: Ah. I Hope not... I liked him.

19:19:40 BigBitz: Drugs be bad, yo!

19:21:06 Apocalyptic: pankkake, davout http://caccomo.blogspot.fr/ a decent blog I stumbled upon today

19:21:06 assbot: Chroniques en libert

19:28:25 asciilifeform: 'The "extra" pinchers are attached to a LCR meter for the machine to "measure" each component before it put it down! You wont find that on the $5K Chinese machines!' << had no idea this existed. anywhere.

19:28:42 asciilifeform: (from http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMT-Pick-and-Place-Machine-Siemens-ms72-with-modern-GUI-includes-source-code-/171380699124)

19:29:40 asciilifeform: 'All of the mechanical stuff on this unit is from the 80's (When the mechanical stuff was great because the computers sucked)' << re: earlier discussion of power supplies.

19:31:36 mircea_popescu: heh

19:36:26 *: asciilifeform would buy the above gadget but for the 3-phase mains - and the fact that it would fall through the floor.

19:42:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 772 @ 0.00210129 = 1.6222 BTC [-] {3}

19:45:41 fluffypony: mircea_popescu:so how do i leave a comment or anything to this tom guy ? <- you can just Tweet @TomOnBTC

19:45:41 fluffypony: oh

19:45:42 fluffypony: wait

19:45:44 fluffypony: :-P

20:02:05 mircea_popescu: lol

20:03:16 mircea_popescu: i can only tweet @whatever for as long as he doesn't kill anyone.

20:03:21 mircea_popescu: bitcoin needs better infrastructure than that.

20:03:33 fluffypony: lol

20:12:26 asciilifeform: needs better infrastructure than that >> blockchain telegraph!

20:22:21 mircea_popescu: i bought a blockchain dildo the other day

20:22:26 mircea_popescu: still haven't unpacked it.

20:42:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 613 @ 0.002299 = 1.4093 BTC [-] {2}

20:43:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1783 @ 0.00255334 = 4.5526 BTC [+] {10}

20:44:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2445 @ 0.00273631 = 6.6903 BTC [+] {14}

21:02:26 artifexd: I know mpex went down due to hard drive issues. Isn't it back up? I haven't seen any mpex trades in a few days.

21:46:25 benkay: http://www.designboom.com/technology/airtype-keyless-bluetooth-keyboard-07-11-2014/

21:46:25 assbot: AirType keyless bluetooth keyboard fits in the palm of your hand

21:57:56 mircea_popescu: artifexd not yet

21:58:01 mircea_popescu: changing a bunch of stuff.

21:58:23 artifexd: aok

22:02:01 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2agpe1/is_there_a_site_for_betting_on_sports_games_with/ reddit knows

22:02:02 assbot: Is there a site for betting on sports games with BTC? : Bitcoin

22:17:44 mircea_popescu: ;;seen mike_c

22:17:44 gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 49 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <mike_c> and a gentleman

22:20:44 asciilifeform: benkay: terrible idea. just like touch screen keyboards (or that israeli firm that made a 'laser' keyboard drawn on table.)

22:21:46 asciilifeform: why does this crud appear again and again? no one heard of 'gorilla arm syndrome' and the like?

22:23:17 asciilifeform: fingers need mechanical feedback

22:23:24 asciilifeform: (not only for pleasure, but to absorb impact.)

22:23:57 asciilifeform: people seem intent on discovering new classes of 'repetitive' injury.

22:26:54 benkay: they keypress is required to prevent bruising?

22:30:17 mircea_popescu: benkay paradoxically, yes.

22:30:28 mircea_popescu: try punching as hard as you can in the air, see what happens.

22:30:40 mircea_popescu: same mechanics apply to finger movement too.

22:30:58 mircea_popescu: if there isn't a face there to stop your fist, your arm has to do it. and it's not really equipped or designed for such.

22:32:14 benkay: certainly, but if one's tapping on the table?

22:32:34 mircea_popescu: then there's the table. i thought this was supposed to be mid air tho

22:33:57 benkay: "virtually any surface, or none at all."

22:35:52 thestringpuller: http://bitcoin.equipment/

22:36:04 thestringpuller: didn't even know .equipment was a valid suffix

22:37:12 benkay: thestringpuller: i want man.systems

22:37:50 mircea_popescu: sissy.systems

22:38:39 benkay: http://dumb.domains/

22:38:40 assbot: DUMB.domains

22:38:46 benkay: wank.holiday

22:39:14 mircea_popescu: actually that site is pretty good thestringpuller

22:40:43 thestringpuller: redditards deliver sometimes I s'pose

22:41:02 mircea_popescu: this has sa/buttcoins all over it.

22:41:30 mircea_popescu: basically, there are some competent redditards. they're the people who came to reddit to hide among the redditards.

23:09:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 176 @ 0.00402999 = 0.7093 BTC [+]

23:10:18 mircea_popescu: anyone wanna code me a website ?

23:19:37 kakobrekla: what, you mean like css?

23:21:02 mircea_popescu: nah

23:21:59 mircea_popescu: im toying with the general idea of distributed effort to destroy social media. this'd be an experiment in that sense.

23:49:13 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell hanbot remember the guy that sent a complaint to spanish police (where he was at the time being an romanian temp worker) that mtgox won't send him proof of its id ? he's dead.

23:49:14 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:49:41 benkay: social. yum.

23:50:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 116 @ 0.01635687 = 1.8974 BTC [+] {12}

23:52:11 mircea_popescu: benkay all these broken wots everyone's implemented.

23:55:28 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=47057 << if anyone's curious how the entire bitcoin-by-country irc nonsense got started.

23:55:28 assbot: Bitcointa.lk: the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum | Bitcointa.lk

23:55:46 mircea_popescu: tl;dr: shut-in (mizeridearia) got bored one day.