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00:05:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00054816 = 2.6356 BTC [-] {2}

00:31:01 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo kinda fun to watch from a distance.

00:31:22 mircea_popescu: all those "associate professors" in their late 30s, without tenure, ahhh...

00:32:42 BingoBoingo: The thing about the "media got kicked out" protest in front of the J-School is... That actually would have been a good place to launch a ferguson style burn some buildings riot... If only they could find the manpower

00:33:54 BingoBoingo: That corner of the quad connects to downtown businesses through an arch that runs through the j-school building. Serious potential to surprise some bsns's with a ransacking

00:34:17 mircea_popescu: the thing with the thugs is, they really don't like going outside of their territory.

00:34:45 mircea_popescu: that's kind of the one thing that support[s/ed] the centralised state : on their own, warlords warlord over a hunting range.

00:34:54 mircea_popescu: creating an army is a different story.

00:35:33 BingoBoingo: Also the college kids don't supply the same kind of MANpower the highschool kids do

00:36:34 BingoBoingo: Either of the big high schools in CoMo could throw a much better riot than all the college kids

00:36:51 mircea_popescu: now what does this say about women's marriage prospects ?

00:38:24 BingoBoingo: It says the poolboy or her dealer runs the house and not her vaguely man-shaped subwife

00:39:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00055877 = 5.6156 BTC [+] {6}

00:40:23 BingoBoingo: Not enough Tyrones

00:41:50 mircea_popescu: so what about that euro parity huh!

00:43:34 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur

00:43:39 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

00:43:41 gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 290.519352, vol: 51712.09540837 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 300.0, vol: 557.98991 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 306.494712, vol: 5.82841967 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 296.915868, vol: 134242.95030000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 294.67701, vol: 20263.1294522 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 293.0, vol: 209.25991818 | Volume-weighted last average: 295.103297666

00:43:48 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 313.87, vol: 51715.28565896 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 312.435, vol: 29602.41981 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 317.95, vol: 117348.13987752 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 329.99, vol: 5.82841967 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 319.90634, vol: 134239.38050000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 301.56, vol: 142.93293735 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 315.4731, vol: 209.25991818 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

00:43:49 BingoBoingo: ;;more

00:43:49 gribble: average: 317.606641845

00:43:55 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is it just me or did quantcast go stupid ?

00:44:17 BingoBoingo: It went very stupid about a month or so ago with "new dashboard"

00:44:25 mircea_popescu: do we still link to them ?

00:44:45 gabriel_laddel: whaack: the masamune respository has not been updated in some time, and many things have changed. I'll be picking up the parts for another machine tomorrow, and will be automating the (currently manual) build process from there.

00:44:55 mircea_popescu: yeah. listen, take that !-- Quantcast Tag -- stuff out.

00:45:13 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: We do

00:45:18 mircea_popescu: cool.

00:45:19 BingoBoingo: alright

00:45:34 mircea_popescu: da fuck is with all these people, namecheap went stupid, quantcast went stupid, they're just falling into their own kabukihole

00:46:08 gabriel_laddel: whaack: until I've more resources, you'll have to install on top of a Dell Precision M4400, which you can pick up from anywhere between 80 and 120 usd.

00:46:12 mircea_popescu: whole heap of "oh we'll make our bitcoinxt subreddit and everyone will come there!!11" crickets "oh hey look at this nobody gave a shit!"

00:47:38 shinohai: Roger Ver favorited my tweet where I made fun of him for ragequitting r/bitcoin

00:48:49 BingoBoingo: Ok, quantcast is now shunned

00:51:00 mircea_popescu: there is no fucking stable solution to this problem for crying out loud, to have html you need a standard. the moment you have a standard you're stuck with the progre.

00:51:24 mircea_popescu: then your thing doesn't work anymore and the progre's holding conferences.

00:53:23 whaack: gabriel_laddel: Alright, I'll look into getting one.

00:53:57 *: BingoBoingo also ripped out some ie friendly hacks while ripping.

00:57:02 BingoBoingo: So, without the quantcast shit, qntra loaded here in 610 ms

01:04:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322328 << counterexamples are plentiful but they all involve zero-people-born-after-1985-or-so sorta thing. e.g., there are no z80 'conferences.'

01:04:58 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 00:51:00; mircea_popescu: there is no fucking stable solution to this problem for crying out loud, to have html you need a standard. the moment you have a standard you're stuck with the progre.

01:05:29 asciilifeform: it is possible to have something like a standard with something like sanity.

01:05:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00055465 = 4.5204 BTC [-] {2}

01:06:41 asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2015/11/protonmail-ddos.htm << i'm not convinced cryptome turned.

01:06:42 assbot: ProtonMail Allegedly Proxied by Israeli Firm with IDF Links ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBPpo6 )

01:07:13 asciilifeform: 'Likely the DDoS attack on ProtonMail was orchestrated to follow with an offer of generous "help" it could not refuse, necessarily a re-route of all traffic through third-party "anti-DDoS" systems.'

01:28:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5444 @ 0.0005587 = 3.0416 BTC [+] {2}

01:29:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5706 @ 0.00056115 = 3.2019 BTC [+] {2}

01:36:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00055685 = 2.5058 BTC [-]

01:48:12 BingoBoingo: Pls let me know if I broke anything on Qntra

02:02:38 mircea_popescu: !up bp

02:02:40 mircea_popescu: !up DrDeke

02:02:42 mircea_popescu: !up iovk

02:05:23 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nice huh.

02:06:06 BingoBoingo: Seriously. I deleting some other shit while I was deleting shit.

02:10:41 mircea_popescu: necessarily a re-route of all traffic through third-party "anti-DDoS" systems.' << run moar cloudflare!

02:14:14 asciilifeform: aha, it

02:16:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00055627 = 3.3376 BTC [-] {2}

02:18:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4411 @ 0.00055422 = 2.4447 BTC [-] {2}

02:23:02 mod6: whaack: hi, yeah thanks for asking. 'v.pl' could certainly use some testing help. additionally, when I get my rotor+v script finished (hopefully soon), will have that to test as well.

02:23:43 asciilifeform: did i ever tell anybody that the whole motherfuckin orchestra was called... motor ?

02:23:59 BingoBoingo: I suspected

02:24:03 asciilifeform: (stator + rotor + misc.)

02:24:23 mod6: ah

02:24:24 BingoBoingo: Oh, you aren't going to call misc "The Windings"

02:27:48 mod6: whaack: as far as programming help, probably the best place to start is to read all of the current vpatches and understand the changes, and be able to build the R.I. up through the latest.

02:42:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00055996 = 3.0798 BTC [+] {2}

02:56:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14893 @ 0.00056226 = 8.3737 BTC [+]

02:57:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6157 @ 0.00056337 = 3.4687 BTC [+] {2}

03:03:49 mircea_popescu: jesus this latest al pacino move is unwatchable.

03:04:09 mircea_popescu: who the fuck came up with the bright idea of editing together retirement home surveillance footage.

03:09:47 BingoBoingo: lol

03:26:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00056352 = 1.9723 BTC [+]

03:40:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00056352 = 9.6644 BTC [+] {2}

04:14:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7951 @ 0.00056353 = 4.4806 BTC [+] {2}

04:16:17 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Apple will trade above $150 on or before New Year's Day 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1159/apple-will-trade-above-150-on-or-before/#b21

04:16:18 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 3.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Cardano to Ship in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1100/cardano-to-ship-in-2015/#b14

04:25:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5992 @ 0.00056466 = 3.3834 BTC [+] {2}

04:47:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00055654 = 4.341 BTC [-] {3}

04:55:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9108 @ 0.00055499 = 5.0548 BTC [-]

05:11:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10202 @ 0.00055416 = 5.6535 BTC [-]

05:20:16 BingoBoingo: reddiception https://archive.is/izqyA

05:20:17 assbot: [Mod PSA] Anabolic oak : Steroidsourcetalk ... ( http://bit.ly/1HJcY98 )

05:23:16 BingoBoingo: 2011-2013 never happened on the internet

05:28:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00055416 = 4.1839 BTC [-]

05:28:06 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322020 << I don't see it. nobody cares about those folks, and they don't own anything. Facebook might have paid $5k "corporate tax", but they have 100,000+ sq feet office and I dunno, 500-1000 employees in UK?

05:28:06 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 17:30:58; pete_dushenski: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crickhowell-welsh-town-moves-offshore-to-avoid-tax-on-local-business-a6728971.html << just as crafty as >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-11-2015#1321288

05:30:05 punkman: "coffee shop owner Steve said: “I have always paid every penny of tax I owe, and I don’t object to that. What I object to is paying my full tax when my big name competitors are doing the damnedest to dodge theirs.”"

05:33:52 punkman: re: steel mouse, I lol'd https://dixunusmoumzz.cloudfront.net/filer_public/8b/92/8b928275-ef62-4464-be86-a6cc64a8cf36/sensei_leadin_proof2_r.png

05:33:54 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HJdTGC )

05:43:14 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322216 << therealbitcoin needs patches, considering http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-11-2015#1317120

05:43:14 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 21:02:55; whaack: I've looked at it, and I saw in the comments it needed testing so I figured maybe that's where I could start.

05:43:14 assbot: Logged on 05-11-2015 13:08:25; jurov: i tried to sync my 0.5.4 to core 0.11, it won't sync

05:46:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00055416 = 3.5466 BTC [-]

05:53:34 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-11-2015#1322242 << they throw rocks here, and broken sidewalk pieces, and molotovs. and they hit (armored) cops with sticks and pipes. and some kids beat up a politician outside the parliament the other day. but seems to have the same effect as otherwise peaceful protest.

05:53:34 assbot: Logged on 11-11-2015 21:26:30; mircea_popescu: If you hold a protest and you aren't throwing rocks it will fail. I'm not telling you to throw rocks, I'm explaining why your march won't work.

06:14:48 mircea_popescu: !up rmoen__

06:15:39 rmoen__: mircea_popescu: oh ty

06:16:41 mircea_popescu: sure. who're you ?

06:16:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0005598 = 1.4555 BTC [+]

06:19:25 rmoen__: mircea_popescu: just a person interested in the things

06:19:42 mircea_popescu: aite.

06:28:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.0005598 = 4.1705 BTC [+]

06:31:21 punkman: "This was clearly a wrong decision so let us be clear to all future attackers – ProtonMail will NEVER pay another ransom." << ddos-geld is bad, so we only pay anti-ddos-geld now

06:31:43 mircea_popescu: heh

06:33:34 punkman: https://www.gofundme.com/protonmaildefense $57k huh

06:33:36 assbot: Support the ProtonMail Defense Fund by Andy Yen - GoFundMe ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxE2O )

06:33:56 deedbot-: [Qntra] Yik Yak Use Leads To Arrest - http://qntra.net/2015/11/yik-yak-use-leads-to-arrest/

06:34:16 punkman: "Just spent 500$ and am feeling great about it. The DDOS is most likely done by a government agency i suspect"

06:34:40 BingoBoingo: "whose attempt to resign his position after student uproar over his decision to dare holding class and an exam on Wednesday is not being recognized by the University"

06:34:59 mircea_popescu: wait. what ?!

06:35:01 BingoBoingo: Apparently only Presidents and Chancellors can resign

06:35:22 mircea_popescu: how can you not "recognize" someone quitting.

06:35:48 BingoBoingo: quitting is triggering to the fee-fees

06:35:53 mircea_popescu: so ?

06:36:27 BingoBoingo: leik http://www.komu.com/news/mu-professor-resigns/

06:36:43 BingoBoingo: "A University of Missouri spokesperson said the resignation was not accepted from a professor who came under fire for an email he sent to a student after threats against the university surfaced on social media."

06:36:48 BingoBoingo: Spokespeople apparently

06:37:55 BingoBoingo: Seriously, this is cultural fukushima

06:38:15 mircea_popescu: George, in his apartment with Maura: "And so, for all these reasons, we are

06:38:16 mircea_popescu: officially broken up. Thank you, and good night."

06:38:16 mircea_popescu: Maura: "No, George, we're not."

06:38:16 mircea_popescu: George: "But I proved it!"

06:38:16 mircea_popescu: Maura: "I refuse to give up on this relationship. It's like launching

06:38:16 mircea_popescu: missiles from a submarine. Both of use have to turn our keys."

06:38:18 mircea_popescu: George: "Well, then, I am gonna have to ask you to turn your key."

06:38:20 mircea_popescu: Maura: "I'm sorry, George, I can't do that."

06:49:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.0005598 = 1.0356 BTC [+]

06:50:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00056165 = 2.5274 BTC [+]

07:17:54 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mitch_callahan wouldja fix that connection.

07:17:54 gribble: The operation succeeded.

07:23:05 punkman: https://www.cloudflare.com/dnssec/root-signing-ceremony/

07:23:06 assbot: The DNSSEC Root Signing Ceremony | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company ... ( http://bit.ly/1PDAASW )

07:27:42 mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/2FXIa for people who have cloudflare nullrouted. it's pretty fucking dumb / usual vapid fare.

07:27:43 assbot: The DNSSEC Root Signing Ceremony | CloudFlare | The web performance & security company ... ( http://bit.ly/1O525mI )

07:28:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.0005592 = 11.0442 BTC [-] {5}

07:28:10 mircea_popescu: and no, contrary to all the pompous / ceremonious bullshit, there's no security there nor any measure of trust worth the mention.

07:28:29 mircea_popescu: dinosaurs and other fossils from a pre-bitcoin world trying their best to not have noticed.

07:33:36 mircea_popescu: "The Ceremony Administrator boots the laptop from a DVD" << example of "security".

08:16:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00055155 = 11.4998 BTC [-] {3}

08:30:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8091 @ 0.00054813 = 4.4349 BTC [-] {3}

08:31:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9469 @ 0.00054783 = 5.1874 BTC [-] {2}

08:33:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00055446 = 1.1921 BTC [+]

08:39:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6083 @ 0.00054685 = 3.3265 BTC [-] {2}

09:13:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00055446 = 1.1089 BTC [+]

10:03:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00054814 = 3.3985 BTC [+] {2}

10:16:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4413 @ 0.00055416 = 2.4455 BTC [+] {3}

10:21:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00055646 = 1.4746 BTC [+] {2}

10:30:27 punkman: http://www.itmustbecollege.com/uploads/cscd9pz8qo.jpg

10:30:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5bGK6 )

11:28:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00055405 = 2.5486 BTC [-]

11:32:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4145 @ 0.00055212 = 2.2885 BTC [-]

11:34:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4935 @ 0.00055532 = 2.7405 BTC [+] {2}

12:02:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00055648 = 1.6694 BTC [+]

12:14:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00055765 = 7.0822 BTC [+] {3}

12:57:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6369 @ 0.00055789 = 3.5532 BTC [+] {2}

12:58:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10120 @ 0.00055742 = 5.6411 BTC [-] {2}

13:01:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2705 @ 0.00055212 = 1.4935 BTC [-]

13:02:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5429 @ 0.0005517 = 2.9952 BTC [-]

13:03:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7326 @ 0.00056127 = 4.1119 BTC [+] {4}

13:25:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00055136 = 2.7017 BTC [-] {2}

13:45:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00055192 = 2.1525 BTC [+]

13:46:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00055192 = 1.4074 BTC [+]

14:03:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00056183 = 2.1911 BTC [+]

14:17:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00055491 = 2.1364 BTC [-]

14:31:32 deedbot-: [Qntra] US Supreme Court to Weigh Total Pre-Trial Asset Freezes - http://qntra.net/2015/11/us-supreme-court-to-weigh-total-pre-trial-asset-freezes/

14:40:47 BingoBoingo: ^ Repeat of Dotcom lulz, but this time a domestic case

14:47:57 BingoBoingo: !up whaack

15:01:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00056204 = 2.754 BTC [+] {2}

15:10:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00055491 = 2.6636 BTC [-]

15:14:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7038 @ 0.00055491 = 3.9055 BTC [-]

15:27:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00056184 = 1.208 BTC [+]

15:46:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00055859 = 2.7092 BTC [-]

15:51:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15062 @ 0.00055058 = 8.2928 BTC [-] {3}

15:52:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00056178 = 2.1909 BTC [+] {3}

16:08:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00056605 = 4.9246 BTC [+] {3}

16:20:07 punkman: in local lulz, ruling party SYRIZA published a press release, urging everyone to join today's 24h general strike against austerity

16:32:54 BingoBoingo: lol

16:33:03 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

16:38:52 punkman: http://www.firmware.re/dynamicanalysis/

16:38:52 assbot: firmware · ǝɹ - Free Online Firmware Unpacker, Scanner, Analyser - Firmware Genomics/Genome Project - Firmware Vulnerability and Backdoor Discovery - Firmware Mounting, Modification, Loading and Emulation - Embedded and Internet-of-Things Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNsuXP )

16:40:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00056335 = 6.1405 BTC [+] {3}

16:40:27 ascii_field: punkman: the basic problem with this paper is that the subset of embedded gadgets which can be meaningfully emulated without extensive reversing is more or less nil.

16:42:24 mitch_callahan: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=12-11-2015#1322423 << sorry MP, this thing went on the fritz.

16:42:24 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 07:17:54; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mitch_callahan wouldja fix that connection.

16:44:23 punkman: ascii_field: what is "meaningful" emulation?

16:44:33 ascii_field: punkman: where the thing ~actually runs~

16:44:45 ascii_field: instead of looking for some i/o thing that isn't there in qemu because wtf

16:44:51 lobbes: mitch_callahan: you got a bouncer? There's always BNC4free to get you started

16:45:47 ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/securus-hack-prison-phone-company-exposes-thousands-of-calls-lawyers-and-clients << mega-l0lz. summary: client-attorney privilege canceled entirely in usa.

16:45:50 assbot: Massive Hack of 70 Million Prisoner Phone Calls Indicates Violations of Attorney-Client Privilege ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y6SXT9 )

16:45:50 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:46:17 ascii_field: 'Particularly notable within the vast trove of phone records are what appear to be at least 14,000 recorded conversations between inmates and attorneys, a strong indication that at least some of the recordings are likely confidential and privileged legal communications — calls that never should have been recorded in the first place. '

16:48:56 ascii_field: 'Going forward, prisoners will have very good cause to question whether their phone calls with their attorneys are confidential.'

16:49:33 ascii_field: and naturally, the perpetrator is in full ashleymadison mode,

16:49:35 ascii_field: 'It is very important to note that we have found absolutely no evidence of attorney-client calls that were recorded without the knowledge and consent of those parties. Our calling systems include multiple safeguards to prevent this from occurring.'

16:50:27 mitch_callahan: lobbes i'm not familiar with bouncers. i'll take a look. thank you.

16:51:13 punkman: "In many jurisdictions — including in Austin — the onus is on lawyers or their clients to give phone numbers to prison officials so that they can be placed on a do-not-record list. Failing to provide up-to-date contact information would make any inadvertent recordings the attorney’s or inmate’s fault."

16:52:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00055971 = 3.6941 BTC [-]

17:01:47 ascii_field: 'the court will decide whether the government can freeze all of a defendant’s assets before trial, even those the government itself concedes aren’t tainted by any connection to criminality, thus effectively preventing that defendant from paying for his own defense. Of course, the government won’t admit that this is why it is freezing the assets. The claim is that it should be able to freeze enough property to

17:01:47 ascii_field: cover any judgment that may be issued against the defendant. But the Supreme Court rarely questions the motives of state actors. If the prosecution can plausibly claim it is freezing the assets for the right reasons, that’s generally good enough.'

17:02:30 ascii_field: i've said it before, and will repeat for the n00bz:

17:02:31 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770468

17:02:31 assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.

17:03:26 ascii_field: the only 'defense attorney' that makes any kind of sense in modern usa is the same kind as made sense on the front in 1942: a frag in your pocket. with which to blow yourself and the arresting polizei.

17:03:46 ben_vulpes: !up ascii_field

17:07:24 *: ben_vulpes is too uncaffinated yet to even dig up mircea_popescu's insurance policy

17:08:33 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: for all i know, he's buried nukes in ten thousand and one places. i was speaking of ~the rest of us~

17:08:56 ascii_field: the meat.

17:10:07 ben_vulpes: you don't recall the "have assets seized, be in wot get recompensated" deed?

17:10:34 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319527

17:10:34 assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 23:21:37; asciilifeform: 'Не надо мне пощады,не надо мне награды, / а дайте мне винтовку и дайте мне коня... / А если я погибну,пусть красные отряды, / пусть красные отряды отплатят за меня.' (tm) (r) (mega-classic)

17:11:01 ben_vulpes: and yes, coke machine, still in usaschwitz, lizard hitler will never allow a defense attorney etc etc

17:11:27 *: ben_vulpes does not in2 russian

17:11:40 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: there was a rough translation in the thread

17:12:21 ben_vulpes: aha

17:12:43 ben_vulpes: a wasp, a wasp, my 401k for a wasp

17:12:56 ascii_field: ten thousand wasps.

17:14:51 ascii_field: unfortunately the ten thousand qualified people on the planet all have full calendars, booked with fucking goats, donkeys, installing windows-98-jihad-version with usgcrypt, and cleaning kalash with piss. in kandahar.

17:16:50 ben_vulpes: i prefer the kandaharis in kandahar, tyvm.

17:19:52 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: if monkeys from the congo turn up in london with spears, it is not because a monkey has invented airplane and spear

17:19:56 ascii_field: but because a man willed it.

17:20:17 punkman: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/in-monkey-selfie-lawsuit-lawyer-in-chippendales-garb-is-the-reasonable-one

17:20:21 assbot: In Monkey Selfie Lawsuit, Lawyer in Chippendales Suit Is the Reasonable One | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1RRhHeB )

17:30:51 mircea_popescu: hola pochoclos!

17:32:30 BingoBoingo: hola

17:39:32 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

17:40:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00055799 = 2.3994 BTC [-]

17:41:07 shinohai: Preet strikes again! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-arrests-two-venezuelans-who-say-theyre-related-to-president-maduro/2015/11/12/ee4c2d64-8954-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html

17:41:08 assbot: U.S. arrests two Venezuelans who say they’re related to President Maduro - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qy48Cj )

17:42:02 mircea_popescu: lol for that reason ?

17:42:24 ascii_field: for dope

17:44:14 mircea_popescu: heh.

17:44:49 mircea_popescu: venezuela is such nk...

17:44:50 mircea_popescu: \

17:45:10 BingoBoingo: Oh, the new Mizzou system president is racially ambiguous leaning towards octaroon http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/michael-a-middleton-named-as-interim-president-of-university-of/article_62a31cf0-d2df-52e0-9079-92ebf4ae2751.html

17:45:11 assbot: Michael A. Middleton named as interim president of University of Missouri system : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qy4Cbq )

17:45:23 BingoBoingo: Or just funky lighting

17:45:30 ascii_field: nk et al are exhaust products of usg metabolism

17:46:31 ascii_field: (in that any earnest attempt to ~really~ keep the tendrils out of a country result in something recognizably nk-esque)

17:47:13 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322470 << you going ?

17:47:13 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 16:20:07; punkman: in local lulz, ruling party SYRIZA published a press release, urging everyone to join today's 24h general strike against austerity

17:47:53 BingoBoingo: and another "terroristc threat" but this one is in bumfuck nowhere http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/education/northwest-missouri-state-freshman-posted-social-media-threat-to-shoot/article_f22a2b40-0da0-579a-b952-9be51e4f1700.html

17:47:54 assbot: Northwest Missouri State freshman posted social media threat to shoot black people, police say : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1RRnf8J )

17:48:02 mircea_popescu: ascii_field i disagree. intelligent attempts result in something like lybia. determined attempts result in somewthing like cuba/venezuela/nk etc.

17:48:24 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: notice that one is still here and the other - not so much

17:49:06 mircea_popescu: was for a while. nothing lasts forever : will-based systems go the way of russia once the will is out ; intelligence based systems go the way of lybia once the intelligence's out.

17:49:39 mircea_popescu: (and no, before you ask : "dictatorship of the law" is the sure mark of a man out of ideas.)

17:50:03 ascii_field: the man only ever had this one idea, afaik.

17:50:10 mircea_popescu: it isn't an idea.

17:50:32 mircea_popescu: it's the clenched teeth after having trying to think and managing to exhaust oneself.

17:50:47 ascii_field: it was a fire extinguisher. su was swarming with filth eagerly cutting the whole shebang apart for sale to the highest bidder. the extermination of said scum was the only possible objective for a sane king.

17:51:00 ascii_field: afaik he failed.

17:51:04 mircea_popescu: not so, but it'll have to be good enough.

17:52:06 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322474 << now that's interesting. what say you ascii_field ?

17:52:06 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 16:38:52; assbot: firmware · ǝɹ - Free Online Firmware Unpacker, Scanner, Analyser - Firmware Genomics/Genome Project - Firmware Vulnerability and Backdoor Discovery - Firmware Mounting, Modification, Loading and Emulation - Embedded and Internet-of-Things Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1NNsuXP )

17:52:13 ascii_field: ^see thread

17:52:24 ascii_field: idiot grantsmanship.

17:52:32 *: ascii_field read the paper

17:52:45 mircea_popescu: mk.

17:53:13 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322484 << awww. obviously the only thing i can say i've already said. http://fraudsters.com/2012/why-its-not-actually-in-your-best-interest-to-allow-a-hired-third-party-to-speak-for-you-in-criminal-proceedings/

17:53:13 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 16:45:50; assbot: Massive Hack of 70 Million Prisoner Phone Calls Indicates Violations of Attorney-Client Privilege ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y6SXT9 )

17:53:13 assbot: Why it's not actually in your best interest to allow a hired third party to speak for you in criminal proceedings on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qy5soK )

17:53:18 mircea_popescu: i guess i add it as a comment

17:53:25 ascii_field: they took a page from the classic book of tricks for usg academe - 'pretend that the parts you didn't touch are irrelevant'

17:53:30 ascii_field: (this re: the fw thing)

17:58:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00055799 = 2.9573 BTC [-]

17:58:35 mircea_popescu: ascii_field ftr, that "hack" appears to have been a leak.

17:58:42 ascii_field: aha, saw

17:59:09 ascii_field: the lulzy part is, as always, that there existed what to leak

17:59:44 punkman: mircea_popescu: << you going ? << what, on strike?

17:59:50 mircea_popescu: yea

18:00:02 punkman: I don't job

18:00:03 mircea_popescu: well, not necessarily, just i dunno, to hang out with the angry dumb girlies.

18:00:13 *: mircea_popescu sometimes goes to these things.

18:00:36 mircea_popescu: "honey, if you put half the energy you waste on this stupid shit into sucking cock you wouldn't have any of the problems killing you atm."

18:00:40 mircea_popescu: "wutwutwut/!?!?!!?"

18:00:43 *: ascii_field went habitually to the 'occupy' thing when it was a thing, was disappointed

18:00:49 punkman: gotta be in Athens for these things

18:00:55 mircea_popescu: ascii_field i bet you you don't harrangue the participants.

18:00:59 ascii_field: did too.

18:01:05 ascii_field: just not a specialist at it.

18:01:32 mircea_popescu: ah then im surprised it was disappointing.

18:01:36 mircea_popescu: usually it's comedic gold.

18:01:49 *: ascii_field is atrociously bad at meat, and this is not a mega-seekrit

18:02:03 mircea_popescu: depending, one sometimes needs backup. but it's funny how "the people" changes once it's no longer in a group that supports it.

18:02:44 ascii_field: plus my local (wash. d.c.) gaggle of idiots was perhaps 85% fellow gawkers & idlers by weight and by volume

18:03:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00055717 = 4.6524 BTC [-] {3}

18:03:28 ascii_field: the most memorable thing was when i got invited to a party held by the white clean-cut university types who organized the whole charade

18:03:44 mircea_popescu: well yeah, that goes without saying. student means vagabond and "university town" means tramp central.

18:03:45 ascii_field: it was surreal, like something out of those old 1950s pamphlets about cpusa

18:06:03 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322515 << methinks this man thinks too much of himself.

18:06:03 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 17:19:56; ascii_field: but because a man willed it.

18:06:09 mircea_popescu: do you also will the cockroaches in new york ?

18:06:35 ascii_field: last i was in nyc it was infested with roaches but not with hyenas. why might that be?

18:07:29 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322558 << didn't read the paper yet, but are the parts they touched irrelevant?

18:07:29 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 17:53:25; ascii_field: they took a page from the classic book of tricks for usg academe - 'pretend that the parts you didn't touch are irrelevant'

18:07:56 ascii_field: punkman: read it. they decided that a bare qemu 'arm' is sufficient simulation for, e.g., a router.

18:08:10 ascii_field: that you don't actually need the peripherals for anything.

18:08:16 mircea_popescu: ascii_field no "gotta start somewhere" defense ?

18:08:27 punkman: abstract said they were looking at web interfaces specifically

18:08:33 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: generalizing to 'firmware' costs you this defense.

18:08:42 mircea_popescu: k.

18:09:03 ascii_field: it is what i call 'obscurantist projector'

18:09:17 ascii_field: shine light in the idiot www stack to blind eyes to the low-level strange.

18:09:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00056668 = 2.5784 BTC [+]

18:09:43 mircea_popescu: im so looking forward to moving entirely off the www already...

18:09:55 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:09:56 mircea_popescu: or more properly said : to finally splitting the fake-www chain from www.

18:11:44 *: ascii_field has this lined up, yes

18:12:16 *: ascii_field will get back to this as soon as he figures out how he'll eat in 2016

18:21:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27332 @ 0.00057061 = 15.5959 BTC [+] {3}

18:24:55 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY

18:24:56 assbot: Tom Lehrer - Poisoning Pigeons In The Park - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HDLh6L )

18:26:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2945 @ 0.00056929 = 1.6766 BTC [-]

18:29:51 ben_vulpes: ascii_field: on the topic of food for 2016, your tmsr~ work is splendid portfolio material. i'm sure you're aware and will object that "but it doesn't help me eat today!".

18:36:57 BingoBoingo: !up stf621

18:37:30 stf621: hei

18:38:09 BingoBoingo: hai thar

18:38:12 stf621: ty BingoBoingo

18:39:57 stf621: so..what do you say about a project about tress, planting they..maybe in al EU

18:42:43 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

18:42:52 BingoBoingo: What kinds of tress?

18:43:56 stf621: fir, spruce, pine..because we need this

18:44:27 stf621: something like earthday

18:44:48 BingoBoingo: Europe has enough trees, it needs more bears

18:45:06 BingoBoingo: Or maybe reintroduce lions into the wild

18:45:51 jurov: stf621: here they plant themselves, thanks

18:46:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00057185 = 5.7757 BTC [+] {2}

18:47:18 mircea_popescu: hmm, anyone know how you say salt fermented curd in english ?

18:48:33 mircea_popescu: i don't get it, stf621 , you plant trees ?

18:49:32 stf621: nope, but i want, i want to make something like this

18:50:18 lobbes: well, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago ;/

18:50:19 mircea_popescu: but what do you do ?

18:51:07 stf621: to sustain nature and things like this, and...i have another plans, with my life, one of ..is to ,,help,, this planet

18:51:14 stf621: i.m student

18:51:26 mircea_popescu: oh, you're a student, okay. studying what ?

18:51:27 stf621: info

18:51:29 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> hmm, anyone know how you say salt fermented curd in english ? << fromunda

18:51:54 mircea_popescu: wouldn't it be better if you fixed the software and let the agriculture/forestry students plant the trees ?

18:52:08 mircea_popescu: the way it's going now we have software written by lumberjacks and trees planted by pencilnecks.

18:53:12 jurov: stf621: i have met several people who were set on plating trees, but observing how nature does it itself was beyond them

18:53:24 jurov: the results were obviously not very good

18:54:03 ben_vulpes: i want to use acorns for a calorie base.

18:54:09 ben_vulpes: if we're talking about bad ideas.

18:54:13 mircea_popescu: im sure there's an agar for that.

18:54:19 mircea_popescu: ;;google acorn based agar

18:54:19 gribble: THE BALLS JOKES OMG (Agar.io) - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgNJEnz3dwM; ACCEPT MY BALLS!! l AGAR.IO - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpRP5m90L4o; Doctor Acorn - A free Puzzle Game - Miniclip: http://www.miniclip.com/games/doctor-acorn/en/

18:54:33 mircea_popescu: google, go fucking marry britni already.

18:55:02 lobbes: !b 4

18:55:03 assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/22VBPF1.txt )

18:55:36 ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs.

18:56:13 stf621: mircea_popescu I thought about it

18:57:18 stf621: anyway, i want to do semething, profi, i have some ideas, just to put in ..

18:57:54 mircea_popescu: ...

18:58:17 mircea_popescu: auricular armor, stuff bounces right off.

18:58:57 BingoBoingo: stf621: Seriously if you want to help nature skip the trees and go straight to reintroducing apex predators in Europe

18:59:35 stf621: how it work bitcoin lottery? i don't have any for now, but i will

18:59:52 mircea_popescu: what's your native language stf621 ?

19:00:12 stf621: some pipl need this BingoBongo

19:00:18 stf621: romanian

19:00:28 mircea_popescu: o.O

19:00:36 ben_vulpes: heh.

19:00:55 BingoBoingo: stf621: But if lions eat some people the can do fine with less trees

19:01:19 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know lion never grew in europe.

19:01:57 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A species of lion did, but since it's gone go to the next best substitute, the African lion.

19:02:24 mircea_popescu: nah, afaik europe was pretty much one forest.

19:02:40 BingoBoingo: Greece was Europe at one point

19:03:05 BingoBoingo: Yall jsut killed your felines early

19:03:10 mircea_popescu: heh

19:04:03 BingoBoingo: But best place to start lion replacement therapy in Europe is probably Italy

19:04:18 stf621: hope in 5 years to accomplish some of my projects, if you want, it can be

19:04:44 mircea_popescu: why 5 rahter than 4, or 6 ?

19:05:54 stf621: all depends on my thoughts, what i do for..if i will need money, to do something, i will do

19:06:07 stf621: maybe 3

19:06:07 BingoBoingo: But stf621 if you must plant trees I recommend Toxicodendron, economically valuable for lacquer production

19:06:34 stf621: hope next year to open my company

19:07:35 BingoBoingo: Toxicodendron shrub varieties also useful for to plant under windows that attract jacking off perverts

19:07:38 BingoBoingo: !up stf621

19:08:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4932 @ 0.00056627 = 2.7928 BTC [-]

19:08:44 stf621: somehow, i regret some decision, because i don't take them, when i was young,because parents..etc

19:09:17 stf621: i go to study..i have some exam at math..fuck it..

19:09:36 BingoBoingo: Toxicodendron vernix makes great hedges

19:10:37 punkman: https://cache-bitify.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Dorian-Nakamoto-Auction-1.jpg

19:10:38 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ks1fXw )

19:11:49 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp

19:11:53 stf621: eh, we need sheep too

19:11:56 gribble: Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 214.2146, vol: 40200.42780874 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 213.42608, vol: 20891.94867 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 226.692929, vol: 0.70431422 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 215.524944, vol: 101435.05980000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 209.8899, vol: 0.132702 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 219.402119993, vol: 174.82184963 | Volume-weighted last average: 214.935890576

19:11:56 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322609 << if i want to be caged and conscripted to bitcoin for usg, i know where to call, thx no thx

19:11:56 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 18:29:51; ben_vulpes: ascii_field: on the topic of food for 2016, your tmsr~ work is splendid portfolio material. i'm sure you're aware and will object that "but it doesn't help me eat today!".

19:12:20 mircea_popescu: lol but this is ... some unrelated dude ?

19:12:20 BingoBoingo: stf621: sheep and goats actually love toxicodendron

19:12:45 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur

19:12:52 gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 303.943469, vol: 40018.02025396 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 310.94, vol: 146.17588 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 320.185219, vol: 0.70431422 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 304.282794, vol: 101435.05980000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 306.9899, vol: 13777.3657613 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 309.88999999, vol: 174.82184963 | Volume-weighted last average: 304.447897861

19:12:59 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

19:13:07 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 327.49, vol: 40018.20082014 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 324.8, vol: 20888.93991 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 329.64, vol: 60934.79439881 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 344.99, vol: 0.70431422 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 327.88194, vol: 101435.05980000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 327.99511, vol: 193.03585746 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 333.906474989, vol: 174.82184963 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

19:13:09 BingoBoingo: ;;more

19:13:10 gribble: average: 328.007813045

19:13:28 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 << ersatz coffee, ww1 de.

19:13:28 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 18:55:36; ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs.

19:13:34 ascii_field: and milled, too!

19:13:42 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:15:35 stf621: thanks guys, i go to prepare something to eat, and so study -_-

19:16:18 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're not going to persist with this, are you ?

19:16:36 BingoBoingo: Nah, price is boring

19:16:40 mircea_popescu: no the voicing

19:16:52 BingoBoingo: Ah, prolly not

19:17:16 stf621: oh

19:17:30 mircea_popescu: tho i must confess it does add the valuable "oh, go plant some trees all over europe" dismissal to an otherwise abundant arsenal.

19:18:02 BingoBoingo: Would help though if suggested trees got more consideration

19:18:36 mircea_popescu: when BingoBoingo builds his castle, he'll cultivate poison ivy for the walls

19:18:56 stf621: i know this, and i dont want to do only this, it is one thing, i want a castle too

19:18:59 BingoBoingo: And poison sumac for the hedges

19:19:03 adlai: where's funkenstein when you need him

19:19:11 BingoBoingo: and poison oak for the punji sticks

19:19:37 adlai: stf621: your designated altcoin is http://woodcoin.org/

19:19:39 assbot: Woodcoin: Sustainable. Digital. Cash. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WUBdIe )

19:20:09 stf621: :))

19:22:01 trinque: mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the logs up to last month have been sent through deedbot-

19:22:46 *: BingoBoingo wonders if it is possible to get the "munchkin" mutation into larger felines. A colony a panthers with stubby legs in the paris slums would be adorable.

19:22:52 trinque: I added a field to my db to track the URL which provided a deed, so I'll be able to use that to more conveniently group them into interesting categories

19:23:15 adlai: how about archive.is-ing?

19:23:38 trinque: adlai: yep occurred to me that this would be a decent general feature of the thing

19:23:45 adlai: right now, assbot's links don't actually snapshot unless somebody visits them and initiates it

19:23:55 stf621: have a nice day guys

19:24:03 BingoBoingo: U2

19:24:05 mircea_popescu: well if no one cares then no one cares.

19:24:36 trinque: for now I think keep it simple, and then it could be revisited after I catch up on other deedbot- work

19:26:05 trinque: adlai: to clarify, I took you to mean that deedbot- ends up doing its own archiving, which is what it's doing as a 1-off for the logs

19:27:09 BingoBoingo: "When she told the doctor to treat her as he would treat someone of normal weight for her chronic knee pain,The doctor told her he would ask her to stop doing ruck marches, stop doing challenging hikes with too much gear and to stop competing in the triple jump. "

19:27:44 trinque: but could be feature creep. it's already collecting useful things as is, like the gpg-1.4 wad

19:28:12 trinque: nothing's stopping anyone from archiving a site himself and then making a deed of it

19:29:07 adlai: sure, it simplifies to assume that the deeder maintains a copy of the preimage

19:29:20 adlai: this is not, after all, deedbot-fs...

19:30:29 trinque: right.

19:31:25 BingoBoingo: So, no one's had any problems with qntra since I went deleting a bunch of parts 12 hours ago? Fuck, why was this shit there in the first place? (WordPress)

19:31:49 mircea_popescu: noidea. what did yo uwipe ?

19:31:51 BingoBoingo: Wordpress is why it was there

19:32:28 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Bunch of XML RPC stuff, hooks for niche software no one uses liek "Windows Live Writer"

19:32:46 mircea_popescu: oh. more power to ya.

19:33:19 BingoBoingo: Also parts of some worthless function that dumps shit in the page header

19:35:16 trinque: adlai: assuming a gossipd wotnet, and there being some way to retrieve things provided by your wot in a cryptographically sound manner, the logs would always be enough

19:36:01 trinque: approximated by providing a signed hash of the thing when you link it via http

19:36:34 adlai: but 'wotbox' requires a bit more complexity than that

19:36:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00055699 = 5.2079 BTC [-] {3}

19:37:42 punkman: deedbot must maintain copies of all bundles though

19:38:07 punkman: trinque: btw why did you decide against bundles of hashes?

19:38:46 trinque: I implemented the straightforward spec mircea_popescu made

19:40:16 trinque: which is not to say that your method didn't work

19:40:49 trinque: adlai: elaborate?

19:42:07 *: adlai would rather elaborate once further along this process -> http://fraudsters.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/#selection-43.133-47.1

19:42:08 assbot: Basic Bitcoin Competency Certification on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/20Ppboq )

19:42:40 *: trinque nods

19:43:32 adlai: wotbox is one use case for wot-and-blockchain-stuff-exchange, another could be http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318327

19:43:32 assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 16:56:54; jurov: and that's completely different than coinbr

19:43:52 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/yBFiAe8.png << Rando internet derp doesn't understand Beetus has signs visible in an eye exam and that eye doctors are doctors

19:43:52 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/20PplMD )

19:44:35 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

19:56:47 BingoBoingo: !up BTCTM

20:02:23 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322712 < i hope someone checked i didnt (accidentally or not) replaced logs with the contents of bitcointalk

20:02:23 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 19:22:01; trinque: mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the logs up to last month have been sent through deedbot-

20:02:40 mircea_popescu: im in the process of doing that. will take a bit.

20:04:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00055013 = 5.0062 BTC [-] {2}

20:24:28 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

20:44:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9368 @ 0.00055619 = 5.2104 BTC [+] {2}

20:49:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8450 @ 0.00055049 = 4.6516 BTC [-] {3}

21:34:29 PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322637 << Doesn't acorn require significant processing to remove toxins before you can eat it safely?

21:34:29 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 18:54:03; ben_vulpes: i want to use acorns for a calorie base.

21:36:47 PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322659 << I could be wrong, but I thought the European Lion was more like the Asian Lion than the African Variety

21:36:47 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 19:01:57; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A species of lion did, but since it's gone go to the next best substitute, the African lion.

21:37:52 BingoBoingo: PeterL: They should have though about that earlier

21:38:32 mircea_popescu: PeterL not THAT much. just feed it to a pig.

21:38:41 PeterL: oh, and qntra seems extra zippy lately, its pretty refreshing when compared to any other news site

21:38:43 BingoBoingo: Also acorns aren't poisonous, they just don't usually taste the best.

21:38:56 BingoBoingo: Thank You PeterL

21:40:40 mircea_popescu: win.

21:46:38 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo, PeterL: the trick is to soak 'em for a year in running water so's to get the /tannins/ out.

21:47:28 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo, PeterL: the trick is to soak 'em for a year in running water so's to get the /tannins/ out. << Or you let the squirrels get them and eat the squirrels at your leisure

21:47:59 ben_vulpes: see mircea_popescu's comment re pigs

21:48:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00055957 = 1.7347 BTC [+]

21:48:20 PeterL: I think you can also crush them, boil, throw out the water, and then eat the sludge left over

21:48:52 ben_vulpes: dry and mill, but yes.

21:48:53 PeterL: but feeding to pigs (or goats) is probably the tastiest way

21:49:16 BingoBoingo: Problems with pigs is the smell

21:50:01 PeterL: you have slaves take care of the pigs, then you don't have to worry about the smell

21:50:12 ben_vulpes: sure so barter them to the guy down the road with hogs

21:50:17 mircea_popescu: now you gotta worry about the slaves

21:51:12 BingoBoingo: Also pig farm smell carries quite a distance

21:52:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00055957 = 2.1543 BTC [+]

21:54:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00055454 = 2.8004 BTC [-]

22:03:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6752 @ 0.00055244 = 3.7301 BTC [-]

22:10:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00056759 = 2.6393 BTC [+]

22:19:44 funkenstein_: in related news from sus scrofa in occupied N.America: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGIMCmpfxU

22:19:44 assbot: Hormel: USDA-Approved High Speed Slaughter Hell - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RRZGfY )

22:32:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8152 @ 0.00056551 = 4.61 BTC [-] {4}

22:37:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00056825 = 4.4892 BTC [+] {3}

22:43:13 punkman: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3sjxa5/cryptsy_is_having_trouble_sending_out_a_single/

22:43:14 assbot: Cryptsy is having trouble sending out a single BTC for over a week. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1PEDJC3 )

22:46:35 punkman: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/12/us-usa-bitcoin-auction-idUSKCN0T12FA20151112

22:46:36 assbot: Four bidders won $14 million worth of bitcoin in last U.S. auction | Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1RS3gqF )

22:47:40 mircea_popescu: punkman someone tried to make a 0 btc bet as to whether "it survives".

22:48:12 mircea_popescu: i suspect part of the reason it has a problem "sending even one btc" is that the collected capital of its ... customers, shall we call them that, is not much higher than one bitcoin.

22:49:30 BingoBoingo: likely

22:54:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3107 @ 0.00056893 = 1.7677 BTC [+] {2}

22:56:31 kakobrekla: they did have at least 60 at some point http://imgur.com/AGuM9GK

22:56:32 assbot: I have sent back the 60 BTC I was mistakenly able to withdraw from Cryptsy. If this affected you too, please do the same. Don't take someone else's bitcoin. Xmas is coming up : ) - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1PEEf2J )

22:58:07 mircea_popescu: i don't recognize that signature.

23:02:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4109 @ 0.00056894 = 2.3378 BTC [+]

23:13:19 deedbot-: [fraudsters] In Desperation of Cause, or Eulora November 15th Auction - http://fraudsters.com/2015/in-desperation-of-cause-or-eulora-november-15th-auction/

23:31:31 mircea_popescu: !up rdponticelli

23:53:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7166 @ 0.00056769 = 4.0681 BTC [-]