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00:13:44 mike_c: JD has processed over 1B bets.. impressive. average wager is 0.00445 BTC. not as impressive.

00:14:21 mircea_popescu: it is imprtessive

00:14:34 mike_c: not for the bettors.

00:14:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.02669323 = 0.347 BTC [-] {3}

00:14:50 mircea_popescu: !jd mpif

00:14:50 assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 164.36615133 BTC; -0.04840262 BTC (-0.0294%) since last check 12h 46m 29s ago.

00:16:41 mike_c: but what a machine. the site has great uptime, just cranks along day and night.

00:17:13 mircea_popescu: yeah dooglus is doing a great job keeping it online.

00:17:22 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves i've invited you.

00:17:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:24:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07500886 = 0.225 BTC [-]

00:31:55 mike_c: oops. such hax. https://www.dogevault.com/

00:31:55 assbot: Free online Dogecoin Web Wallet | Doge Vault

00:33:05 mike_c: http://www.dailydot.com/crime/dogevault-hack-theft-shut-down/

00:33:05 assbot: Popular Dogecoin wallet Dogevault goes down, sparks theft rumors

00:37:06 mircea_popescu: ouch

00:37:17 mircea_popescu: was this like the only thing to do with dogecoin ?

00:37:47 mike_c: dunno, i was derping around, googled 'dogecoin wallet' and that was the first hit on google.

00:37:50 mircea_popescu: (outside of donating it to whatever doge-core-scammers indicate, in the faint but doomed hope that it will generate "hype" making it somehow valuable ?

00:38:05 mike_c: i mean, the only thing i know of to do with DC is bet it on doge-dice

00:39:29 mike_c: doge-dice is interesting only in that it is basically a reboot of JD's history, and it is tracking very close to EV. it's actually a hair above.

00:47:39 mircea_popescu: interesting

00:48:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16336 @ 0.00100177 = 16.3649 BTC [-] {2}

00:49:06 mircea_popescu: "Email support@dogevault.com for any enquiries."

00:49:09 mircea_popescu: and esquiries.

00:49:22 mircea_popescu: this is how i know i'm on planet earth btw : inquiries, enquiries and effects, affects.

00:49:43 TheNewDeal: i would like to ensquire

00:51:37 mike_c: that email is now piped straight to /dev/null

00:52:33 mike_c: !up Mats_cd03

00:55:57 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/viceroymusic/viceroy-french-horn-rebellion

00:55:58 assbot: Viceroy & French Horn Rebellion - Friday Nights by VICEROY on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

00:57:49 TheNewDeal: straight to the music

00:57:50 TheNewDeal: love it

00:58:11 Mats_cd03: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/12/us-russia-gazprom-ukraine-idUSBREA4B04K20140512 "Moscow says Kiev owes it $3.51 billion for gas, and has told

00:58:11 assbot: Russia ready for gas talks with Kiev only if it pays debt| Reuters

00:58:11 Mats_cd03: Ukraine it must pay in advance for its gas from June." lol this is going to be a hot summer

00:58:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00100137 = 26.3861 BTC [-]

00:58:34 Apocalyptic: ironically it will be most needed a couple of months later

00:59:01 TheNewDeal: wowza,trading above .001

00:59:39 mike_c: monthly sale is over

01:00:08 TheNewDeal: monthly sale?

01:00:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9641 @ 0.00100856 = 9.7235 BTC [+] {2}

01:00:34 mike_c: s.mpoe seems to dip pretty regularly and then climb right back up.

01:01:03 Mats_cd03: it defeats understanding

01:02:09 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 wait till the winter.

01:02:29 mircea_popescu: o wow over 1 again huh

01:02:54 Mats_cd03: yeah 'hot' isnt a good descriptor for what i meant

01:02:59 mike_c: yeah, popped yesterday. not on huge trading either, all the sellers just disappeared.

01:03:02 mircea_popescu: so is the us going to airlift natural gas into west kiev ?

01:03:50 mircea_popescu: mike_c was this brock pierce day ?!

01:04:10 mike_c: lol. why do i get this grief? i explicitly said i don't understand it!

01:05:09 mike_c: if i understood s.mpoe i'd be sippin mai tais

01:05:23 mike_c: well, not really, but you know.

01:05:36 mircea_popescu: mike_c awww i was just asking

01:05:38 mircea_popescu: no grief intended

01:05:48 Mats_cd03: http://www.deptofnumbers.com pretty good data analysis

01:05:48 assbot: Department of Numbers

01:06:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05816733 = 0.1745 BTC [-] {3}

01:07:04 mike_c: Mats_cd03: this mix is taking me back to college.

01:09:15 Mats_cd03: im consuming hash oil and playing loud electronic music

01:09:29 Mats_cd03: for the next few hours im going to pretend im still in college

01:10:12 TheNewDeal: change it to some dub/reggae and ill join in

01:11:04 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/iknowbitfunk/1nce-again-bit-funk-remix

01:11:05 assbot: A Tribe Called Quest - 1nce Again (Bit Funk Remix) by Bit Funk on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

01:11:13 Mats_cd03: im not a reggae fan

01:13:03 TheNewDeal: so let me get this straight. Using my own affiliate link is a no no?

01:13:11 mike_c: is mother's day an international thing? did you europeens do mother's day yesterday?

01:13:38 mike_c: TheNewDeal: for bitbet? it's angle shooting.

01:14:02 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/kool-kabul/anthony-hamilton-elayna

01:14:03 assbot: Anthony Hamilton & Elayna Boynton - Freedom (Kool & Kabul Edit) by Kool & Kabul on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

01:14:08 TheNewDeal: ;;ud angle shooting

01:14:09 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Angle%20Shoot | In poker, using unethical means to take advantage of inexperienced opponents. Some examples of angle shooting: - making a string bet in a home game...

01:14:52 mircea_popescu: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/tax/10819885/David-Cameron-Taxes-will-rise-unless-we-can-raid-bank-accounts.html

01:14:52 assbot: David Cameron: Taxes will rise unless we can raid bank accounts - Telegraph

01:14:55 mircea_popescu: herp.

01:15:05 mircea_popescu: god forbid they like, you know, FIRE THE ENTIRE FUCKING BUREAUCRACY

01:15:40 Mats_cd03: ironically, i broke my vape pen, so now i'm using a stovetop to heat the oil like a fiend

01:15:58 Mats_cd03: seems oddly appropriate for all the gangster rap i listen to...

01:16:17 mircea_popescu: mike_c eu has mother's day march 8th mostly

01:16:18 Mats_cd03: or is it coincidence rather than irony

01:17:38 mircea_popescu: "Saint Philemon (died 305) was an actor at Antinopolis, Egypt, who was converted by saint Apollonius. They were martyred together under the persecutions of Diocletian. Patron saint of dancers, the athletes of God."

01:17:52 mircea_popescu: look at that, brock philemon, the saint.

01:18:06 mike_c: interesting. i guess people can't even agree when easter is.

01:18:18 Mats_cd03: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeDyRxFNmpw

01:18:18 assbot: Electric Guest -- Holiday - YouTube

01:19:14 mike_c: hah, in slovakia there is arguments about whether there should be "mothers day" or "womens day". what the hell do "women" need a day for?

01:20:15 mike_c: you don't need a day until you've cleaned a metric ton of shit out of your child's ass.

01:21:54 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/moiez-babar/moiez-you-only-live-once

01:21:55 assbot: Moiez - You Only Live Once (Original Mix) by Moiez on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

01:21:55 TheNewDeal: looove electric guest

01:22:31 TheNewDeal: troubleman is my favorite from that first album

01:22:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10066 @ 0.00100952 = 10.1618 BTC [+] {2}

01:23:57 mircea_popescu: !up AusBitBank

01:25:59 mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinet.pl/2014/05/12/bitcoin-embassy-in-warsaw-officially-open/

01:25:59 assbot: Bitcoin Embassy in Warsaw Officially Open! | Bitcoinet

01:26:15 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in poland : some kids opened an unauthorised embassy, and got a catholic priest to bless it.

01:26:32 mircea_popescu: tuxedos and whatnot. it's a riot.

01:26:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44503 @ 0.0010099 = 44.9436 BTC [+] {2}

01:27:40 mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinet.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Ambasada_Bitcoin-10.png << nice heels and tits on that chick tho. she looks quite Crumb-y.

01:28:40 mircea_popescu: there's also a tricorn for some reason.

01:29:02 mircea_popescu: and a clock wall. because you know, gotta keep track of this timezone thing.

01:30:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3540 @ 0.00100878 = 3.5711 BTC [-]

01:32:25 AusBitBank: thats an awesome satoshi painting in that warsaw btc embassy, want

01:33:00 mircea_popescu: samurai 30yo satoshi ?!

01:33:29 mod6: 47 ronin or something lol

01:33:47 mircea_popescu: such a trainwreck of visual weird, that thing.

01:33:48 AusBitBank: would rather picture him that way, then oldmate chasing a free lunch

01:34:09 mircea_popescu: AusBitBank still, he's prolly a peaceful guy > 50 with glasses.

01:34:21 mod6: the keymaker

01:34:24 mircea_popescu: rather than a katana wielding guy with floating hair

01:34:24 AusBitBank: probably

01:34:52 AusBitBank: the matrix keymaker guy is a nice fit too :P

01:38:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00100725 = 26.8936 BTC [-] {2}

01:47:19 TheNewDeal: !up mats_cd03

01:50:02 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves hey, check this out : dignork made a bot for cryptographs. you /q puzzlomat then fraudsters guess 1 blabla

01:50:02 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:50:11 mircea_popescu: aw shit wrong tell.

01:50:29 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thestringpuller hey, check this out : dignork made a bot for cryptographs. you /q puzzlomat then fraudsters guess 1 blabla

01:50:29 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:50:40 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves oops sorry wrong th* :p

01:50:40 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:55:00 mircea_popescu: Naphex https://www.btcxchange.ro/‎ => "We're sorry but the page your're trying to access couldn't be found on our servers."

01:55:00 assbot: Whoops! Somebody divided by zero... | btcXchange.ro - The first Bitcoin exchange in Romania

01:56:08 princessnell: so i see the catholic church no longer thinks bitcoin is the mark of the beast, then? http://www.catholic.org/news/business/story.php?id=54795

01:56:09 assbot: Is the 'Mark of the Beast' the future of money? - Business & Economics - News - Catholic Online

01:56:48 mircea_popescu: princessnell http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-05-2014#673418

01:56:49 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

01:56:55 mircea_popescu: now they bless bitcoin embassies

01:57:18 princessnell: god is on the side of the smart money

01:57:44 mircea_popescu: you ever seen smart money ?

01:58:12 mircea_popescu: (1931 film, e g robinson)

02:00:43 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

02:00:45 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 438.39, Best ask: 440.87, Bid-ask spread: 2.48000, Last trade: 440.48, 24 hour volume: 4436.73374601, 24 hour low: 431.56, 24 hour high: 443.77, 24 hour vwap: 439.726509813

02:01:29 Mats_cd03: TheNewDeal: if you like electric guest, you might like www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEoX2MLQji8

02:04:45 TheNewDeal: gotta find my headphones

02:07:03 princessnell: mircea_popescu nope, haven't seen it

02:07:07 princessnell: any good?

02:07:12 decimation: Mircea, http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-idea-that-bitcoin-is-a-sovereign << the last footnote link is messed up

02:07:14 assbot: The idea that Bitcoin is a sovereign… pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

02:11:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11414 @ 0.0010089 = 11.5156 BTC [+]

02:11:58 decimation: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/colorado-lawmaker-to-accept-donations-in-bitcoin/

02:12:19 decimation: "So far, the campaign has raised more than $1,000 in Bitcoin donations, according to Lisa Kaufmann, a campaign spokeswoman. " LoL

02:13:10 mircea_popescu: princessnell well i have weird tastes, so hard to know.

02:13:27 mircea_popescu: decimation funny, cause some texan got about the same earlier today

02:14:23 decimation: I find it amusing that he's bragging to the nyt about a few coins flipped into his jar

02:14:39 mircea_popescu: and link fixed tyvm

02:14:55 decimation: what's the next nyt beat? Bums along the highway?

02:14:57 mircea_popescu: nah, 1k in donations is noteworthy. a few k's puts you on the top donor list in most states.

02:16:55 TheNewDeal: but yes, you could spend half that to give to a bum and it would make the nyt

02:17:34 mircea_popescu: meanwhile whatsapp sells for 20bn.

02:18:43 decimation: There's some reality there. USG's influence is ... overstated

02:18:58 princessnell: wait wat

02:20:15 decimation: I mean, facebook could spend its fiat on anything, and it chose to spend $20bn on some idio-app instead of spreading it around Congress

02:21:24 princessnell: bc those are the only two options?

02:21:39 TheNewDeal: share buyback baby

02:22:17 TheNewDeal: or they could start putting out a dividend before having a revenue

02:22:36 TheNewDeal: !up mats_cd03

02:22:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.46 = 10.58 BTC [-]

02:22:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.00431179 = 0.9917 BTC [+] {3}

02:22:51 mircea_popescu: decimation what do you want them to do, hire the blackwater ukrainian mercenaries to shoot black people all over la ?

02:23:20 decimation: well, that seems to be working for Putin

02:25:14 decimation: My point is simply that congressmen are small potatoes compared to VC banksters

02:31:33 Mats_cd03: blackwater isnt a mercenary force, silly

02:32:43 Mats_cd03: Erik prince thinks of them more like, "civilian warriors"

02:33:29 Mats_cd03: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1591847214 an excellent read

02:33:29 assbot: Civilian Warriors: The Inside Story of Blackwater and the Unsung Heroes of the War on Terror:Amazon:Books

02:35:48 decimation: http://theden.tv/2014/05/12/eurovision-2014-soundtrack-to-the-new-cold-war/

02:35:51 assbot: Eurovision 2014: Soundtrack to the New Cold War | Theden | Thedening the West

02:37:56 decimation: "Dmitri Rogozin, Russia?s deputy prime minister, put it differently: he said Eurovision ?showed supporters of European integration their European future: a bearded girl?."

02:47:38 TheNewDeal: love seeing the No's trickle onto the BRK-A bet

02:47:44 TheNewDeal: slowly*

02:49:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12267 @ 0.00100918 = 12.3796 BTC [+] {2}

02:53:29 TheNewDeal: !up Mats_cd03

02:55:11 Mats_cd03: https://github.com/shaih/HElib

02:55:12 assbot: shaih/HElib GitHub

02:57:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0010084 = 4.5378 BTC [-]

02:58:25 TheNewDeal: when will bitbets next statement come out?

03:01:29 TheNewDeal: I am thinking about making that bet whether or not bitbet will resolve that payment with the 30% chop of the revenue

03:03:32 kakobrekla: resolve what payment?

03:04:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21645 @ 0.00101 = 21.8615 BTC [+]

03:07:39 TheNewDeal: mpex shareholder overpayment credit http://fraudsters.com/2014/bitbet-april-2014-statement/

03:07:40 assbot: BitBet, April 2014 Statement pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:09:08 kakobrekla: i dont understand what the bet would be about?

03:12:05 TheNewDeal: for example: bet resolves as no if the credit is not covered in the next period

03:12:40 kakobrekla: ah that. dunno if it will pass

03:13:34 TheNewDeal: what!?!?

03:13:42 TheNewDeal: isn't it straightforward

03:15:34 kakobrekla: resolvability is not the only condition a bet should pass

03:16:08 TheNewDeal: surely no one will die here?

03:16:21 kakobrekla: not so sure!

03:16:37 TheNewDeal: :P

03:19:25 TheNewDeal: considered advertising, advocacy, rambling and nonsense?

03:22:48 moiety: hello

03:23:20 kakobrekla: hey there

03:23:36 kakobrekla: TheNewDeal i guess submit it and hope for the best :)

03:24:21 TheNewDeal: i've got another one i've been debating. Bitcoin volatility bet: price will touch 400 and 2000 this year

03:29:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 6000 @ 0.00015 = 0.9 BTC [+]

03:30:10 moiety: i've missed a lot

03:31:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00101 = 11.514 BTC [+]

03:40:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30984 @ 0.00101 = 31.2938 BTC [+]

03:40:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.041 = 0.984 BTC [-]

03:44:27 dub: hardly 100k mpoe on the book

03:50:11 benkay: doll just put on battle of los angeles

03:50:14 benkay: is cooking dinner

03:50:27 benkay: can't believe how great life is

03:50:49 dub: terrible movie

03:51:20 benkay: dub

03:51:25 benkay: nigga plz

03:52:27 benkay: (ratm)

03:53:35 dub: oh, dis one http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1758570/?

03:53:36 assbot: Battle of Los Angeles (Video 2011) - IMDb

03:53:45 dub: not http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1217613/

03:53:46 assbot: World Invasion: Battle Los Angeles (2011) - IMDb

03:53:48 benkay: <mike_c> yeah, popped yesterday. not on huge trading either, all the sellers just disappeared. // isn't bitcoin the best arg ever?

03:53:51 benkay: no.

03:53:53 benkay: try again.

03:53:58 benkay: ratm

03:57:14 benkay: sleep now in the fire!

04:30:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00100612 = 12.7777 BTC [-] {2}

04:53:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00100162 = 34.1552 BTC [-] {3}

05:02:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02600401 = 0.7281 BTC [-]

05:02:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00100077 = 5.0039 BTC [-] {2}

05:03:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.026004 = 0.104 BTC [-]

05:04:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0749535 = 0.5247 BTC [-] {2}

05:05:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.03075 = 0.4305 BTC [+]

05:06:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 29 @ 0.026002 = 0.7541 BTC [-]

05:13:39 dub: ken's strategy for activeminer 'What we are expecting is that during the next year bitcoins will go up in price.'

05:14:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.07498562 = 0.9748 BTC [-] {2}

05:18:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 27 @ 0.02600158 = 0.702 BTC [-] {3}

05:45:59 fluffypony: dub: How Can Strategy Be Real If Business Isn't Real?

05:46:15 fluffypony: - Jaden Slaughter-Smith

05:47:48 Naphex: ;;later tell mircea_popescu where is that deadlink? seems like some rubbish utf8 in url

05:47:49 gribble: The operation succeeded.

05:48:30 Naphex: morning

05:48:53 fluffypony: morning Naphex

05:49:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00099967 = 7.5475 BTC [-]

05:55:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 42 @ 0.041 = 1.722 BTC [-]

05:57:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13298 @ 0.00099967 = 13.2936 BTC [-]

05:57:52 fluffypony: Naphex: I have a question

05:58:16 fluffypony: are you the main guy at btcXchange.ro that has been on TV before or is that someone else?

05:58:46 fluffypony: (I was talking to a Romanian guy and mentioned I know you and he was very excited and said he'd seen you / whoever interviewed on TV)

06:01:44 Naphex: fluffypony: no. that is the owner Horea Vuscan

06:01:53 fluffypony: ah ok

06:02:02 fluffypony: you must become a media whore and become famouz

06:02:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1264 @ 0.00017998 = 0.2275 BTC [-] {5}

06:02:38 Naphex: nah, im mostly introverted and private :p

06:03:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05449983 = 0.1635 BTC [-] {2}

06:04:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 44 @ 0.00300006 = 0.132 BTC [-] {3}

06:04:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.05449984 = 0.109 BTC [+] {2}

06:06:28 Naphex: off to the office bb

06:06:32 Naphex: e

06:12:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.02627775 = 1.2613 BTC [+] {4}

06:20:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15585 @ 0.00099967 = 15.5799 BTC [-]

06:30:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30100 @ 0.00099961 = 30.0883 BTC [-] {2}

06:59:23 moiety: morning fluffy

07:00:30 fluffypony: moiety!

07:00:39 fluffypony: what in the Glorious Manul's name is up

07:00:42 moiety: :D how are you?

07:00:50 moiety: I got squatted in otc D;

07:01:06 moiety: totally forgot enforce wasnt on

07:01:06 fluffypony: wat

07:01:11 fluffypony: that's crazy

07:01:22 moiety: some scammer was using my name but i got alerted to it today

07:01:31 moiety: hes been using lots of names apparently

07:02:20 moiety: i went in and apologised and idented

07:02:46 fluffypony: and turned enforce on?

07:02:50 moiety: yep

07:03:04 moiety: cant believe if forgot to do it in the first place

07:03:07 moiety: i*

07:06:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0257001 = 0.257 BTC [-]

07:06:59 fluffypony: a

07:07:02 fluffypony: it happens

07:07:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]

07:09:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6691 @ 0.00100128 = 6.6996 BTC [+]

07:17:06 moiety: how's things been with you fluffypony?

07:17:39 assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 500 @ 0.00021725 = 0.1086 BTC [+]

07:18:35 BingoBoingo: http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/05/12/doggy-gets-upset-over-his-new-haircut-walks-around-on-hind-legs-like-a-boss-for-two-days/

07:18:35 assbot: Doggy gets upset over his new haircut, walks around on hind legs like a boss for two days | RocketNews24

07:18:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 1000 @ 0.00015 = 0.15 BTC [+]

07:20:14 moiety: lol! thats flasher photoshop is epic

07:22:33 BingoBoingo: I've never been a fan of pomeranian. That now seems justified.

07:23:15 moiety: looks like a totally different dog with a haircut

07:24:09 BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2014/05/joint_chiefs_report_admits_u_s_military_made_afghanistan_s_corruption_worse.2.html

07:24:11 assbot: Joint Chiefs report admits U.S. military made Afghanistan’s corruption worse: Graft, not the Taliban, defeated the U.S. campaign.

07:24:15 moiety: not to mention entirely disturbed

07:24:24 BingoBoingo: moiety: DEoesn't even look like a dog really

07:24:43 moiety: no kinda like a wee stuffed teddy

07:24:56 moiety: happier dog is happier: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--mE9csF2Umw/U26McT2qLcI/AAAAAAAAAJk/bmmqP-4djlM/w688-h373-no/corgi.gif

07:25:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07306897 = 0.8038 BTC [-] {2}

07:26:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.07307095 = 1.3883 BTC [+] {4}

07:27:38 BingoBoingo: Aw

07:28:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34749 @ 0.00100143 = 34.7987 BTC [+] {2}

07:29:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072775 = 0.1456 BTC [-] {2}

07:30:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.0721844 = 3.6092 BTC [-] {3}

07:31:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 60 @ 0.0257 = 1.542 BTC [-]

07:32:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 69 @ 0.0257 = 1.7733 BTC [-]

07:35:56 fluffypony: moiety: it's been ok-ish, was dealing with redditards and gave up on it yesterday

07:36:21 moiety: my gosh, they are admitting they made something worse? re us military link

07:36:50 moiety: redditards? they aren't anything to lose any sleep over :] did you make a post fluffypony?

07:37:08 fluffypony: a blog post?

07:37:09 fluffypony: not yet

07:37:17 moiety: no i mean on reddit, what happened?

07:37:22 fluffypony: long story

07:37:25 fluffypony: will blog about it

07:37:35 moiety: kk i shall catch up via that

07:38:25 moiety: tards are the bed of the internet the rest of us have to lay in unfortunately

07:38:44 moiety: inescapable

07:42:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00100296 = 19.6079 BTC [+] {2}

07:43:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40033 @ 0.00100594 = 40.2708 BTC [+] {2}

07:51:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 86 @ 0.041 = 3.526 BTC [-] {2}

07:55:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9527 @ 0.00100619 = 9.586 BTC [+]

07:56:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24323 @ 0.00100634 = 24.4772 BTC [+]

08:31:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03075 = 0.1538 BTC [+]

08:35:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22916 @ 0.00100397 = 23.007 BTC [-] {3}

08:43:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21534 @ 0.00100441 = 21.629 BTC [+] {2}

08:49:10 fluffypony: so basically Havelock paid for some cameltoe

08:49:12 fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/H7Ymnv0.jpg

08:49:22 fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/MMrbzg8.jpg

08:50:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00099866 = 0.3995 BTC [-]

08:51:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17641 @ 0.00099862 = 17.6167 BTC [-]

09:10:30 Naphex: there is better cameltoe over here

09:10:33 Naphex: for free

09:10:46 Naphex: but i give it a 6 for effort

09:12:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4734 @ 0.00099862 = 4.7275 BTC [-]

09:13:06 Naphex: BTCXchange GEneral Stats: https://api.btcxchange.ro/stats

09:16:26 fluffypony: nice :)

09:36:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00100089 = 6.0554 BTC [+]

09:37:49 fluffypony: ;;later tell Mats_cd03 damn son, you have great taste in music, I've been plowing through the links you posted earlier in the log. thanks :)

09:37:49 gribble: The operation succeeded.

09:38:15 Naphex: have some oldschool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBNh2PPqlJs

09:38:15 assbot: Redman - Tonight's Da Night - YouTube

09:38:16 Naphex: :]

09:38:37 fluffypony: nice :)

09:39:48 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: mornings

09:42:01 mircea_popescu: hey.

09:42:11 mircea_popescu: Naphex a i must have missed the utf garbage

09:42:13 fluffypony: Naphex: I see your oldschool and raise you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYy8jpp7R8

09:42:13 assbot: Method Man, Redman - Da Rockwilder - YouTube

09:52:13 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/466153876828459008

09:52:14 assbot: If they couldn't afford /WhatsApp ... /ReutersChina Beijing plans new $14 bln airport to ease congestion http://t.co/7gBwvrV9Ku

09:59:15 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/niubi/status/466035112950648832

09:59:16 assbot: Chinese student late for reservation at jiro sushi, asked for fish to be cooked, complains on Weibo, flamed http://t.co/UERIABkAqd gawker

09:59:24 mircea_popescu: clearly jiro sushi support sucks.

09:59:29 mircea_popescu: saving this for whenever we need it.

10:13:36 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 "civillian warriors", srsly ?

10:15:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12243 @ 0.00100195 = 12.2669 BTC [+] {2}

10:15:39 Naphex: fluffypony: that's not that oldschool :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFyTzjJDeCk

10:15:39 assbot: mos def ms fat booty - YouTube

10:15:47 fluffypony: LOL

10:18:36 BingoBoingo: http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/nimblecoin-bitcoin-best-friends/

10:18:37 assbot: NimbleCoin can be Bitcoin’s Best Friend | bitslog

10:18:42 HeySteve: good morning

10:19:24 HeySteve: here's an interesting thing to do with your dehydrated alcohol - http://distillique.co.za/distilling_shop/blog/211-spirited-caviar

10:19:25 assbot: Distillique - Spirited caviar

10:21:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.00100361 = 15.2047 BTC [+]

10:24:13 mircea_popescu: not bad.

10:24:55 mircea_popescu: "Nimblecoin is a new cryptocurrency I?ve designed and two programmers are developing right now. It does merge-mining with Bitcoin and has a never-ending block subsidy."

10:24:56 mircea_popescu: herp.

10:25:08 mircea_popescu: why does every two bit noob start by "desigining" something ?

10:30:09 BingoBoingo: Because designing is easier on their ego than adapting

10:31:46 HeySteve: rooters :( http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-nsa-tampers-us-internet-routers-snowden

10:31:47 assbot: Glenn Greenwald: how the NSA tampers with US-made internet routers | World news | The Guardian

10:32:00 mircea_popescu: i guess that's it huh.

10:32:31 mircea_popescu: HeySteve yeah, cisco sales took a shocking plunge last q over the fact that nobody wants to buy us made hardware anymore.

10:32:38 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I mean they could change themselves, but pretending to change the environment they live in is easier.

10:32:56 HeySteve: mircea_popescu rightly so, but you can't trust the Huawei stuff either

10:33:09 HeySteve: it seems to me there's a demand for dependable hardware...

10:33:10 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess i shouldn't be too agitated by it, children also start their career in the world by inventing pseudo-worlds.

10:33:19 mircea_popescu: HeySteve makes two of us.

10:34:41 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They usually do indeed. But then again children vs. adults who haven't really managed the transition.

10:35:56 HeySteve: I'd pay at least 10% more for hardware I could trust

10:37:31 Naphex: meh, cisco routers not that bad, dell servers though?

10:37:38 Naphex: that IMPI is straight from hell

10:37:46 mircea_popescu: ^

10:37:52 Naphex: IPMI *

10:37:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31609 @ 0.00100812 = 31.8657 BTC [+] {3}

10:38:23 Naphex: easily backdoored, had even some private 0day that reflashed the IMPI firmware

10:38:34 Naphex: ipmi could easily even share your raid/hdd whatever

10:38:56 HeySteve: the problem is, even if you can trust the company which makes or checks the the device, when it ships it can be intercepted en route.

10:39:13 Naphex: thats why i reflash everything after getting new hardware

10:39:19 Naphex: and staying away from US hardware

10:40:20 Naphex: as well most server techs and ipmi disabled, hdd encryption, etc

10:41:06 Naphex: and while worrying about interception is not that big of a list on many companies, but posibilities into remote backdooring servers, and remote sniffing are way higher on the list

10:41:13 Naphex: and probably more common

10:41:32 Naphex: also if the US have the backdoor, you might as well figure everyone does, so IL, DE, CN

10:41:41 Naphex: are probably using the same ins/outs

10:41:48 mircea_popescu: so dignork here's a business idea for you : how about you expand puzzlomat into a web to irc interface ?

10:42:10 mircea_popescu: something like http://dignork.com?name=gribble&query=;;ticker yields

10:42:12 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

10:42:13 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 438.45, Best ask: 440.91, Bid-ask spread: 2.46000, Last trade: 438.38, 24 hour volume: 4046.37066876, 24 hour low: 437.52, 24 hour high: 443.77, 24 hour vwap: 440.861426115

10:42:18 mircea_popescu: as the webpage

10:42:26 mircea_popescu: make the web-to-irc bridge.

10:42:53 mircea_popescu: all you have to do is pm the name, no checks necessary even

10:43:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00100361 = 36.3307 BTC [-]

10:43:23 mircea_popescu: HeySteve not necessarily. depends how it's made.

10:44:23 mircea_popescu: Naphex cn definitely holds the upper hand. al;l those kids graduating at the top of their class for the past few decades were chinese.

10:44:38 mircea_popescu: the us is technologically quite crippled, i don't even think it competes with russia, and that's half the population.

10:44:54 mircea_popescu: just, not nearly as many fucktarded russian hipsters going around. for fear of beatings.

10:45:57 Naphex: plus CN has a lot of experience in industrial spying

10:47:21 Naphex: while most of this injected backdoors will leak in the intelligence community pretty fast

10:48:26 Naphex: ;;google SWIFT breach

10:48:29 gribble: Demanding accountability for the NSA's breach of SWIFT financial ...: https://www.privacyinternational.org/blog/demanding-accountability-for-the-nsas-breach-of-swift-financial-agreement; Belgian and Dutch DPAs to investigate security of SWIFT system ...: https://www.privacyinternational.org/blog/belgian-and-dutch-dpas-to-investigate-security-of-swift-system; Edward Snowden NSA (1 more message)

10:49:57 mircea_popescu: "And at the same time they will be bootstrapping a really cool and fair cryptocurrency with almost no pre-mining with unique features for instant payments based on my research. "

10:51:32 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check this shit out :

10:51:32 mircea_popescu: http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2011/08/

10:51:33 assbot: August | 2011 | bitslog

10:51:38 mircea_popescu: "Redesigning Bitcoin"

10:51:54 mircea_popescu: the guy has been herping about for three years almost, finds himself still in the same state.

10:51:56 mircea_popescu: what now.

10:52:12 mircea_popescu: http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/hello-world/#comment-13

10:52:13 assbot: Redesigning Bitcoin | bitslog

10:52:23 BingoBoingo: I've long imagined him as kind of a bizzaro universe Stan

10:52:28 mircea_popescu: #2 by cunicula on April 9, 2012 "Hi, I would love to provide some input. I?m an academic economist with my own ideas for improving bitcoin."

10:52:37 mircea_popescu: ANOTHER fucktard, of exactly the same ilk

10:52:43 mircea_popescu: (at least if it's the forum cunicula)

10:53:20 BingoBoingo: Probably is

10:53:47 Naphex: ;;google Tailored Access Operations

10:53:47 BingoBoingo: I remember cunicula's flavor of herp

10:53:48 gribble: Tailored Access Operations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailored_Access_Operations; More about the NSA's Tailored Access Operations Unit: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/12/more_about_the.html; The NSA has its own team of elite hackers - Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/29/the-nsa-has-its- (1 more message)

10:55:00 mircea_popescu: Naphex why does the powerpoint look so distinctly windows ?

10:55:43 Naphex: "A number of US companies, including Cisco and Dell, have subsequently made public statements denying that they insert such back doors into their products.[32] Microsoft provides advance warning to the NSA of vulnerabilities it knows about, before fixes or information about these vulnerabilities is available to the public; this enables TAO to execute so-called zero-day attacks.[33] A Microsoft official who declined to be identified in the press c

10:56:36 Naphex: TAO budget document claims that these companies, on TAO's behest, "insert vulnerabilities into commercial encryption systems, IT systems, networks and endpoint communications devices used by targets".

10:56:44 Naphex: fun stuff

10:58:46 mircea_popescu: well yea.

11:12:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00100826 = 20.5685 BTC [+]

11:12:45 HeySteve: Greenwald is kicking ass: "Hillary is banal, corrupted, drained of vibrancy and passion. I mean, she’s been around forever, the Clinton circle. She’s a fucking hawk and like a neocon, practically. She’s surrounded by all these sleazy money types who are just corrupting everything everywhere. But she’s going to be the first female president, and women in America are going to be

11:12:45 HeySteve: completely invested in her candidacy. Opposition to her is going to be depicted as misogynistic, like opposition to Obama has been depicted as racist. It’s going to be this completely symbolic messaging that’s going to overshadow the fact that she’ll do nothing but continue everything in pursuit of her own power. They’ll probably have a gay person after Hillary who’s just

11:12:45 HeySteve: going to do the same thing."

11:17:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4207 @ 0.00100361 = 4.2222 BTC [-]

11:30:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33450 @ 0.0010011 = 33.4868 BTC [-] {2}

11:42:35 mircea_popescu: http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/17401/

11:42:38 assbot: All-You-Can-Eat Taco Bars Deemed Offensive, Face Campus Extinction

11:42:40 mircea_popescu: thou shalt not eat taco on campus.

11:42:42 mircea_popescu: gay only.

11:43:44 mircea_popescu: !up B51Num1

11:44:33 mircea_popescu: derp.

11:44:36 mircea_popescu: !up B51Num1_

11:48:42 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: when will bitbets next statement come out? << by the 5th of each month

11:50:39 mircea_popescu: dub: ken's strategy for activeminer 'What we are expecting is that during the next year bitcoins will go up in price.' << "therefore if you give us bitcoins now, and we return a fraction later, you too can enjoy the Dr. Foreskin "making roi hand over fist" process."

11:51:41 mircea_popescu: moiety: cant believe if forgot to do it in the first place << you probably lost a bunch of later tells from gribble in the process too

11:53:35 moiety: mew mircea_popescu how are you? sorry i wasn't around when you were looking for me. // i'm usually signed in even when not here and i think i got all later tells ive seen in logs. i hope i didn't miss anything, hadn't thought of that D;

11:53:49 moiety: i don't tend to roam irc, just stay in here

11:53:53 mircea_popescu: i am great, actually

11:55:01 moiety: good stuff

11:56:06 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/MMrbzg8.jpg << taller brunette not so bad actually.

11:56:17 moiety: o.o thunder and lightnight out of nowhere here, i'll be under a table somewhere

11:56:22 moiety: lightning*

11:56:37 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so when is mpex sponsoring some leggy shmodels?

11:56:38 fluffypony: :-P

11:57:08 mircea_popescu: fluffypony so far just some texan politicians

11:57:13 fluffypony: hah hah

11:57:45 mircea_popescu: and openbsd and shit like that. fresh out of gold spray paint over here.

12:02:46 mircea_popescu: http://taylorpearson.me/the-antifragile-person/

12:02:47 assbot: My Favorite Heuristic for Evaluating Relationships: The Antifragile Person | Taylor Pearson

12:02:51 mircea_popescu: taleb fan.

12:09:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.027 = 0.135 BTC [-]

12:14:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02662632 = 0.6657 BTC [-] {4}

12:15:47 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-practical-sexuality-cryptograph/

12:15:48 assbot: The practical sexuality cryptograph pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

12:17:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03129166 = 0.1877 BTC [+] {2}

12:18:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.027 = 0.135 BTC [+]

12:18:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0314 = 0.157 BTC [+]

12:19:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0265 = 0.1325 BTC [-]

12:20:14 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no need to put fraudsters at the beginning right?

12:20:23 mircea_popescu: right.

12:20:59 mircea_popescu: dignork btw, do me a favour and limit it to one try per hour. let's get people angry :D

12:21:21 mircea_popescu: (look at nick AND ip, too.)

12:21:38 moiety: http://i.imgur.com/z26Zwkn.png and yep strawberry turtle is me

12:22:41 mircea_popescu: moiety maybe you get lucky and find a bf that leaves you handcuffed to a lone oak up on a hill during a megathunderstorm.

12:23:02 mircea_popescu: cheaper than hair bleach :D

12:25:26 moiety: lol i actually have red hair these days. looked like a cartoon through the bleaching stage. and that doesn't sound too fun. i'm petrified indoors!

12:31:47 mircea_popescu: !up malaimo

12:31:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00100345 = 31.9097 BTC [+] {2}

12:37:37 mircea_popescu: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/12/us-belgium-cybercrime-ukraine-idUSBREA4B0EB20140512

12:37:38 assbot: Hackers steal Ukraine crisis data from Belgian foreign ministry| Reuters

12:37:51 bounce: total haxx

12:38:12 mircea_popescu: "While investigations into the cyber attack were ongoing, the foreign ministry network has been completely shut down and employees were no longer able to access email or the Internet, the spokesman said."

12:38:15 mircea_popescu: think about that.

12:38:35 Naphex: so nice, they are safe and totally in the blank :)

12:38:44 mircea_popescu: the bureaucracy does not regard these "diplomats" and other cocksuckers/talking heads any higher than the average corp regards the receptionists/sales people.

12:38:45 Naphex: or maybe everything is on gov intranet

12:39:09 bounce: "the internet" equals the web; email is a different thing, see?

12:39:17 mircea_popescu: totally.

12:39:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]

12:58:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.041 = 0.492 BTC [-]

13:09:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33147 @ 0.00100267 = 33.2355 BTC [-] {2}

13:10:46 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnhI0nYCYAAoL9Q.jpg

13:11:08 mircea_popescu: what happens when nominally different newspapers both hire the same one cheapest provider on freelance.com to make their covers

13:17:07 bounce: rightmost guy looks a different way. photoshop, different photo, ...?

13:18:22 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: freelancer.com? I think you mean fiverr

13:18:22 fluffypony: :-P

13:18:45 mircea_popescu: or that

13:19:01 mircea_popescu: im an unhip curmudgeon, i don't know where the famished teens spend their time out of my bedroom.

13:19:52 mircea_popescu: bounce hjas to be slightly diff photochopping, because of the vallet facepalm

13:20:03 mircea_popescu: that couldn't have been five minutes i imagine

13:20:47 mircea_popescu: (don't tell me the black man dressed up as a vallet isn't really one and i just made a horrible gaffe offending our funny friends in the colonies)

13:20:50 bounce: taking two photos doesn't take five minutes these days

13:21:28 mircea_popescu: actuallly rightmoist woman's arms are moved too.

13:21:40 mircea_popescu: so i guess ok, 2 doiff pics secoinds apart.

13:23:26 bounce: looks like same vantage point to me (haven't looked closely) so likely same photographer (how many were on site anyway?)

13:23:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0267 = 0.2136 BTC [+]

13:25:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02675 = 0.2675 BTC [+]

13:26:07 Naphex: https://www.btcxchange.ro/ new stats on landing page.

13:26:08 assbot: btcXchange.ro - The first Bitcoin exchange in Romania

13:26:58 mircea_popescu: not bad.

13:27:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00100135 = 11.8159 BTC [-]

13:29:23 mircea_popescu: http://www.revista22.ro/mugur-isarescu-personalitatea-politica-n-care-romnii-au-cea-mai-mare-ncredere--sondaj-csop-41529.html

13:29:24 assbot: Mugur Isărescu, personalitatea politică n care romnii au cea mai mare ncredere - sondaj CSOP

13:29:42 Naphex: lol

13:29:46 mircea_popescu: a poll just came out. of various politicians etc, romanians trust most... the central bank governor.

13:29:48 Naphex: well, they couldn't name anyone else

13:29:55 mircea_popescu: not the pm, not the president, etc.

13:30:04 moiety: so i take it freelancer is a useless site then?

13:30:20 mircea_popescu: moiety depends on your usecase

13:49:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37250 @ 0.00100546 = 37.4534 BTC [+] {3}

13:51:41 joecool: !up CheckDavid

13:51:48 CheckDavid: Thanks

13:52:04 joecool: np

13:52:17 CheckDavid: Don’t go out and start trying to offed people, but do reframe criticism not as a bad thing but as a trigger for growth. - hey mircea_popescu

13:52:35 CheckDavid: Ever read Dale Carnegie's books?

13:53:26 mircea_popescu: nope

13:53:46 mircea_popescu: i don't go for all that syrupy neoprotestant benefactor bs that was all the rage in the us back then.

13:53:48 CheckDavid: Its very interesting that he defends the polar opposite

13:54:27 CheckDavid: So you know very well what it is.

13:54:46 mircea_popescu: who, carnegie ? yes, he's the guy that put the us on the map.

13:55:00 mircea_popescu: back in his youth, when he was doing things, rather than in his old age, when he fucked them up.

13:55:11 CheckDavid: I don't mean the guy per se, but what he postulates.

14:02:45 CheckDavid: He fucked what? The things he did?

14:03:46 mircea_popescu: the us :)

14:05:29 mircea_popescu: anyway. since you'll prolly not figure it on your own, let's explain : the joke's a similarity between your self-help schmuck (dale) and the guy that actually mattered by that name (andrew).

14:18:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00100199 = 6.1121 BTC [-]

14:23:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.03139998 = 0.785 BTC [-]

14:26:32 thestringpuller: ;;google site: fraudsters mpex tech stuff

14:26:38 gribble: MPEx tech stuff pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/mpex-tech-stuff; MPEx security breach pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/mpex-security-breach; MPEx pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/category/mpex/

14:28:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.041 = 0.287 BTC [-]

14:32:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.001 = 40.3 BTC [-] {3}

14:33:19 thestringpuller: dang son i should have been hustling more MPOE

14:34:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05499993 = 0.165 BTC [+]

14:35:44 pigeons: actually dale changed the spelling of his name to evoke andrew and hope people would think he was related

14:36:24 mircea_popescu: now there's a man who's done his reading.

14:36:34 pigeons: yeah kinda the first "i'm not successful, but i'll teach you how to be successful teching others to be successful" shmuck

14:36:50 pigeons: of the modern age

14:36:57 mircea_popescu: !up pigeons

14:38:53 mircea_popescu: it's kind of sad that out of a continent of such boundless possibilities and such bountiful diversity,

14:39:34 mircea_popescu: what eventually emerged victorious was the abraham lincoln - derpy carnagey construct

14:40:05 mircea_popescu: to the point today's bison inhabiting the great plains don't even know there was a lot more to be, that their great-greatparents failed to be.

14:41:15 pigeons: don't get me started on lincoln

14:41:33 mircea_popescu: tis in the logs i thought

14:42:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00100199 = 31.212 BTC [+] {2}

14:47:20 dignork: I peeped into puzzlomat access, people using it wrong :( like "fraudsters guess someword". Should be "fraudsters guess 1 someword", where 1 is the number of challenge

14:49:18 fluffypony: I did that

14:49:29 fluffypony: worked 100%

14:49:42 fluffypony: I can't figure out enough of 2 to guess anything yet, but I've been busy today

14:49:47 fluffypony: instructions were clear enough though, dignork

14:56:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00099918 = 15.0876 BTC [-] {2}

14:56:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 111 @ 0.041 = 4.551 BTC [-]

15:06:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.026 = 0.39 BTC [-] {3}

15:07:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 52 @ 0.02575862 = 1.3394 BTC [-] {12}

15:08:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 51 @ 0.02558968 = 1.3051 BTC [-] {12}

15:09:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 67 @ 0.02377611 = 1.593 BTC [-] {15}

15:10:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 65 @ 0.02030843 = 1.32 BTC [-] {14}

15:10:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03139998 = 0.1256 BTC [-]

15:11:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0175 = 0.35 BTC [-] {4}

15:15:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 24 @ 0.01531249 = 0.3675 BTC [-] {9}

15:22:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 1000 @ 0.041 = 41 BTC [-]

15:24:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 100 @ 0.03139998 = 3.14 BTC [-]

15:25:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5434 @ 0.00099882 = 5.4276 BTC [-]

15:27:57 BCB: mircea_popescu: what did you do to piss off the Libretards?

15:31:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.45910001 = 4.1319 BTC [-] {2}

15:32:21 mircea_popescu: me ?!

15:32:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.02245114 = 0.4715 BTC [+] {5}

15:32:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03139998 = 0.157 BTC [-]

15:32:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07492285 = 0.4495 BTC [+]

15:33:15 BCB: mircea_popescu: I loved that response!

15:33:25 mircea_popescu: lol k

15:39:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03139998 = 0.157 BTC [-]

15:40:17 thestringpuller: wait where?

15:40:22 thestringpuller: i feel uninformed.

15:40:37 thestringpuller: also thx for the msg mircea_popescu i'm really digging this crytogram game :D

15:40:40 thestringpuller: too bad I suck at it

15:40:47 thestringpuller: but hey I love Starcraft and suck at that too

15:40:58 mircea_popescu: lol

15:41:14 mircea_popescu: the current one is kinda hard i think

15:41:27 mircea_popescu: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27388289

15:41:27 assbot: BBC News - EU court backs 'right to be forgotten' in Google case

15:41:38 mircea_popescu: coming soon, "the right to fuck a woman just as hot as your wife"

15:41:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03139998 = 0.157 BTC [-]

15:41:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07487241 = 1.4974 BTC [-]

15:42:39 mircea_popescu: otherwise "the right to be as rich as anyone else" is already well entrenched

15:42:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 65 @ 0.04102307 = 2.6665 BTC [+] {3}

15:42:57 mircea_popescu: "the right to opine on things you don't understand" is here, we're pretty much home.

15:44:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30841 @ 0.00100384 = 30.9594 BTC [+]

15:45:39 mircea_popescu: pigeons by the way, http://friendslibrary.in//storage/images/items/1/6333_Front.jpg

15:48:00 pigeons: ah, not suprised

15:49:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03139998 = 0.1884 BTC [-]

15:52:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03139998 = 0.157 BTC [-]

15:56:26 benkay: man i'm getting creeped out

15:56:53 benkay: my imap client keeps complaining about google shuffling certs for imap.gmail.com

15:57:22 thestringpuller: !up Mats_cd03

15:57:54 thestringpuller: using google for mail?

15:57:55 thestringpuller: lol

15:58:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0747996 = 0.1496 BTC [-]

15:59:06 mircea_popescu: what do you care, gpg the secrets ignore the rest.

15:59:36 benkay: that's the only solution, yeah.

15:59:55 joecool: for any email that's the only solution

16:00:03 joecool: not just gmail

16:00:05 mircea_popescu: no diff between email and a pastebin

16:00:09 joecool: ^

16:00:10 mircea_popescu: kinda how it's designed to work

16:00:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.47401111 BTC to 8`711 shares, 28401 satoshi per share

16:00:17 benkay: look i get it, guys.

16:00:49 mircea_popescu: because the snoops snoop anyway see ? and https ain't all it used to be cracked up to be.

16:00:56 mircea_popescu: want links ?

16:00:57 mircea_popescu: :D

16:01:01 thestringpuller: https is a joke

16:01:14 thestringpuller: why does it even exist?

16:02:01 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller some sysadmins long ago went "hmmm, what'd be funnier than getting all these old bozos spelling out http:// ?" "i know, add a letter!"

16:02:30 joecool: otr's a nice system for chat over watched mediums

16:02:43 joecool: can't do rooms with it though

16:03:38 thestringpuller: i don't think it's a big deal for people who grew up with siblings

16:03:48 thestringpuller: people been snooping since before any of us were born

16:03:52 thestringpuller: the spooks are just more advanced no?

16:03:56 thestringpuller: "advanced"

16:04:44 bitcoinpete: http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-the-team-of-burisma-holdings/ <<ukraine gas co gets stars and spangles

16:04:45 assbot: Hunter Biden joins the team of Burisma Holdings | Burisma

16:05:02 mircea_popescu: o so they're going to be able to pay the 3bn after all ?

16:07:00 bitcoinpete: with interest

16:07:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.0009998 = 38.5423 BTC [-] {3}

16:10:27 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: other than one private sale i seem to recall, were there more than 5m shares of mpoe released after the two ipo tranches?

16:10:45 mircea_popescu: yeah i had been selling some prior to that.

16:11:10 mircea_popescu: float was something like 13% pre that iirc

16:11:55 bitcoinpete: a ok

16:17:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 103 @ 0.07300009 = 7.519 BTC [-] {4}

16:19:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07259914 = 2.178 BTC [-] {3}

16:20:22 bitcoinpete: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/may/09/behind-rise-nigeria-boko-haram-climate-disaster-peak-oil-depletion

16:20:23 assbot: Behind the rise of Boko Haram - ecological disaster, oil crisis, spy games | Nafeez Ahmed | Environment | theguardian.com

16:21:03 bitcoinpete: pollution raped me!

16:21:38 mircea_popescu: lol

16:23:25 bitcoinpete: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/french-have-better-sex-limited-to-men

16:23:25 assbot: Of course the French have better sex if our idea of sex is limited to men's ideals | Jessica Valenti | Comment is free | theguardian.com

16:23:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.45905 = 1.8362 BTC [-] {2}

16:23:49 bitcoinpete: "We're so accustomed to a male vision of female sexuality, it's hard to imagine what authentic and organic female pleasure would look like."

16:24:52 mircea_popescu: i see your derp and i raise you the following derp :

16:25:57 mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/DV9gDkNg

16:25:57 assbot: Amir Taaki @AmirTaaki 8h rawr capitalist! you anti-capitalist! I get called b - Pastebin.com

16:26:02 mircea_popescu: what's the defense ? "that stuff is old"

16:26:07 mircea_popescu: as if idiocy ages or something.

16:26:21 mircea_popescu: next he's going to bitch to the EU about his right to be forgotten.

16:26:24 thestringpuller: DUDE I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF AMIR TAAKI

16:26:28 thestringpuller: can he just crawl in a cave and die

16:27:07 Apocalyptic: what did he do ?

16:27:12 mircea_popescu: pity he wasn't up for bitcoin foundation board tbh

16:27:34 Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: 'civilian warrior' is pretty apt IMO. I recommend reading some of Prince's book, he is an impressive guy and an American fighting man. I took a second look at a lot of assumptions re: private military contractors in relation to Blackwater

16:27:58 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 can you say something about it that's not vague ?

16:28:03 Apocalyptic: !up Mats_cd03

16:28:40 mircea_popescu: ty.

16:28:58 Apocalyptic: assbot seems to ignore me lately

16:29:31 mircea_popescu: !up Mats_cd03

16:29:33 mircea_popescu: hm.

16:29:38 mircea_popescu: odd

16:29:47 Mats_cd03: His corp has been slandered in the media by enterprising media figures and one clever lawyer

16:29:58 Mats_cd03: And by virtue of his contract with State Dept, couldn't defend his position publicly at all

16:30:05 bitcoinpete: i heard taaki is starting a new borderless foundation for gypsy vagrants called laffeetaaki

16:30:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.041 = 0.328 BTC [-] {2}

16:30:51 benkay: female sexuality: the things they do 'cause we say to do 'em.

16:30:51 Mats_cd03: His corp has never had a principal die under his protection detail, a record untouched by any organization in AFG or IRQ

16:30:54 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 well that's cool, but i don't really read the media.

16:31:13 mircea_popescu: benkay or so they make you think

16:31:37 benkay: hue hue hue

16:31:47 benkay: the things they do 'cause we figured out they want us to tell 'em to do it

16:32:08 benkay: !up blackwhite

16:32:15 benkay: ;;gettrust assbot blackwhite

16:32:16 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user blackwhite: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=blackwhite | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=blackwhite | Rated since: never

16:32:28 Apocalyptic: can someone up ozbot while at it ?

16:32:29 benkay: blackwhite: panic in the ranks yet?

16:32:31 benkay: !up ozbot

16:32:43 Mats_cd03: The success of blackwater is a story of the free market triumphing over govt inefficiency, basically.

16:32:45 benkay: -assbot- I don't do bots, benkay.

16:32:53 benkay: Apocalyptic: ^^

16:32:55 Apocalyptic: huh

16:33:05 bitcoinpete: benkay: bot on bot love

16:33:15 benkay: robosexual

16:33:17 mircea_popescu: !up ozbot

16:33:40 mircea_popescu: what happened to ozbot here ?

16:33:44 benkay: o does mircea_popescu have speshul assbot powers?

16:33:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00099931 = 6.3456 BTC [-]

16:33:46 benkay: ELITISTS

16:33:51 Apocalyptic: kako seems to discriminate against bots

16:33:58 benkay: derp

16:34:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0245 = 0.1225 BTC [+] {2}

16:35:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07432717 = 0.223 BTC [+]

16:36:33 Mats_cd03: Blackwater has an unfortunate reputation for being gun thugs and baby killers, but they're just... really good at their jobs

16:37:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.024 = 0.144 BTC [-] {3}

16:38:45 mircea_popescu: anyway, seems ozbot got replaced during a downtime

16:39:52 benkay: Jezzz: ?

16:40:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12509 @ 0.00099931 = 12.5004 BTC [-]

16:43:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 75 @ 0.02437333 = 1.828 BTC [+] {3}

16:44:03 bitcoinpete: http://www.fastcompany-digital.com/fastcompany/201405?pg=114&utm_content=buffer1b804&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer#pg114

16:44:04 assbot: Fast Company - May 2014

16:44:28 mircea_popescu: !up Apoorman

16:44:35 bitcoinpete: What if brands stepped away from trying to be part of the conversation and made products worthy of being talked about?

16:44:37 mircea_popescu: sooo i just kicked 250 players out of our rift guild

16:44:42 mircea_popescu: people got kinda worried lol

16:44:53 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete heretic.

16:44:53 Apoorman: what is rift?

16:44:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 19 @ 0.0245 = 0.4655 BTC [+]

16:44:58 Mats_cd03: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=247006320

16:44:58 assbot: Were Blackwater's 'Civilian Warriors' Unfairly Maligned? : NPR

16:45:16 Mats_cd03: an interview with prince

16:45:30 mircea_popescu: uh.

16:45:40 mircea_popescu: i won't have any specifics from you will i.

16:45:45 mircea_popescu: what the fuck does "maligned" mean ?

16:45:51 mircea_popescu: they got cancer ?

16:45:59 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/le_marquis/last-night-a-dj-saved-my-life-lemarquis-remix

16:45:59 assbot: Indeep - Last Night A DJ Saved My Life (LeMarquis Remix) by LeMarquis on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

16:46:20 mircea_popescu: Apoorman it's a mmorpg.

16:46:21 fluffypony: yay Mats_cd03 is back with more good music

16:46:32 Mats_cd03: okay okay give me a second here, ive been working off a mobile

16:46:53 Apoorman: when is ministry of games going to be ready ? Its been like 8months

16:46:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07430704 = 0.2972 BTC [-]

16:47:06 bitcoinpete: maligned = critiqued

16:47:19 Mats_cd03: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-charges-brought-against-former-blackwater-guards-in-baghdad-shooting/2013/10/17/9307b562-3759-11e3-8a0e-4e2cf80831fc_story.html

16:47:20 assbot: New charges brought against former Blackwater guards in Baghdad shooting - The Washington Post

16:48:14 Mats_cd03: blackwater guards shot up an IRQ square after vehicles followed too closely while blackwater vehicles were stopped; boxed in and blackwater started shooting their way out

16:48:36 bitcoinpete: and blackwater isn't in and of itself a problem, it merely signals that the us is on the decline

16:49:22 Apoorman: the US became jewish

16:49:28 Apoorman: thats what happened.

16:49:35 mircea_popescu: Apoorman depends what you mean by ready. in the sense of "done", hopefgully never. in the sense of playable, it's been released for months.

16:49:48 Apoorman: link to play?

16:50:00 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 charges would seem a legal matter rather than media.

16:50:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00099976 = 10.6974 BTC [+] {2}

16:50:04 Mats_cd03: incidentally... lots of this happened with NATO .mil forces, but its not as good of a story as mercs doin it

16:50:19 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/smg-eulora-v004 is the most recent iirc.

16:50:21 assbot: S.MG - Eulora v0.0.4 pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

16:50:32 Apoorman: are other players online

16:50:49 mircea_popescu: how lazy are you ?

16:51:23 Apoorman: http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/eulora-004-ss2.jpg

16:51:28 Apoorman: apparently not lazy enough

16:51:43 Mats_cd03: the charges dont matter, because State Dept believes, probably correctly, that Blackwater is the only organization that can keep diplomats and VIPs alive in theatre

16:52:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 53 @ 0.03139998 = 1.6642 BTC [-]

16:52:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07428559 = 0.7429 BTC [-]

16:52:23 Mats_cd03: dunno what else there is to be said on the subject

16:52:36 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 that's been rather nonsensical.

16:52:40 mircea_popescu: who asked the state dept anything again ?

16:52:59 mircea_popescu: charges matter irrespective of what governments like or don't like, believe or don't believe.

16:53:05 Apoorman: the US has become completely jewish and disconnected from its original principles

16:53:23 Apoorman: talmudic mentality alive and well

16:53:29 Mats_cd03: what are practical consequences of charges sticking?

16:53:51 Apoorman: every society where jews become dominate goes into structural decline. nothing new to the US

16:53:58 Mats_cd03: some kids get tv time and go away, blackwater is reviled in the press, blackwater's contract gets renewed again

16:54:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15941 @ 0.00100075 = 15.953 BTC [+]

16:54:09 benkay: what is talmudic mentality, Apoorman ?

16:54:20 Mats_cd03: no net change

16:54:37 Apoorman: its rabbi speak. changing certain precepts to fit whatever you are trying to achieve.

16:55:05 Apoorman: war in iraq was a war for israel anyone with 2 brain cells knows it

16:55:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21940 @ 0.00100561 = 22.0631 BTC [+] {2}

16:55:16 Apoorman: main architects were all jewish ie paul wolfowitz.

16:56:12 bitcoinpete: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2014/05/language_map_what_s_the_most_popular_language_in_your_state.html

16:56:13 assbot: Language map: What’s the most popular language in your state?

16:56:38 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/cookinsoul/2pac-old-school-cookin-soul

16:56:38 assbot: 2Pac - Old School (Cookin Soul Remix) by Cookin Soul on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

16:57:34 bitcoinpete: Apoorman: war in iraq was not just one thing. also oil reserves and keeping military fed

16:57:48 Mats_cd03: a reminder to work on my spanish. where did i leave those pimsleur mp3s?

16:58:04 Apoorman: dude iraq was about making the arabs hate americans.

16:58:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03139998 = 0.157 BTC [-]

16:58:12 Apoorman: all for the benefit of israel

16:58:26 Apoorman: oil prices never declined one bit and barely any reserves flooded the US.

16:58:55 mircea_popescu: !down Apoorman

16:58:58 Mats_cd03: are we really replaying a debate that happened ten years ago

16:59:00 mircea_popescu: ok enough derpage for now.

16:59:07 benkay: hue hue hue

16:59:38 bitcoinpete: derping makes ye poor

16:59:46 mircea_popescu: poor but fervent.

17:00:37 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 so your argument is basically what, that men reading to shoot doofuses for pay are a good thing ?

17:00:58 mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem. just, what's witgh the brand loyalty. mercs are interchangeable by definition.

17:01:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 550 @ 0.00100208 = 0.5511 BTC [-]

17:01:19 benkay: but good mercs as with good people of any stripe are not fungible.

17:01:41 mircea_popescu: but good mercs aren't either exactly merks or dumb enough to work for the usg.

17:02:52 mircea_popescu: then again who knows, maybe haliburton can somehow afford to pay enough.

17:02:56 mircea_popescu: no idea how that'd work.

17:05:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07461454 = 0.4477 BTC [+]

17:06:06 benkay: !up Mats_cd03

17:07:01 benkay: enough dollars are enough dollars

17:07:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-]

17:07:30 Mats_cd03: the brand loyalty stems from personal experience

17:07:33 thestringpuller: ;;ident chetty

17:07:33 gribble: Nick 'chetty', with hostmask 'chetty!~chet@unaffiliated/chetty', is identified as user 'chetty', with GPG key id BD7C5558DD9EFA14, key fingerprint AE3A51FA6C038A5B4D3FE80FBD7C5558DD9EFA14, and bitcoin address None

17:08:38 Mats_cd03: ultimately its immaterial

17:09:39 Mats_cd03: i have had the good fortune to see their guys react to contact while on a protection detail

17:10:22 Mats_cd03: they dropped everything except the principal in order to engage the enemy and help troops in contact

17:10:39 Mats_cd03: not just another faceless merc force (tm)

17:10:49 benkay: http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2014/05/13/alec-baldwin-arrested-in-manhattan-for-biking-the-wrong-way/?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_newyork

17:10:49 assbot: Alec Baldwin Arrested in Manhattan for Disorderly Conduct - Metropolis - WSJ

17:10:58 benkay: "New York City is a mismanaged carnival of stupidity that is desperate for revenue and anxious to criminalize behavior once thought benign."

17:11:26 Mats_cd03: Little Birds circling while some fucking hajis are putting out indirect fire is an indescribable relief

17:12:40 benkay: helicopters

17:12:51 benkay: what an absurd kludge of engineering.

17:13:05 benkay: useful sometimes i get it

17:13:11 benkay: but at the same time wtf

17:13:14 Mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-qjGADMm_g

17:13:14 assbot: Gramatik - Torture (Feat. Eric Krasno) - YouTube

17:13:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29000 @ 0.00099777 = 28.9353 BTC [-]

17:13:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2300 @ 0.00012487 = 0.2872 BTC [-] {2}

17:13:36 Mats_cd03: more electro garbage, avert your clicks benkay

17:14:19 jborkl_: finally got my block data live pulling from my own server, autoupdating using jquery was a bitch

17:16:22 bitcoinpete: benkay: baldwin should gtfo of that hole. dude's done 30 rock so...

17:16:49 benkay: but it's such a shiny hole, bitcoinpete

17:16:55 benkay: and all the shiny people are there

17:17:00 benkay: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303603904579491643733173318?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303603904579491643733173318.html

17:17:01 assbot: Exposing the EPA - WSJ.com

17:17:05 benkay: lol farticle

17:17:31 bitcoinpete: benkay: lol when's the last time you were in nyc?

17:18:20 benkay: 2011

17:18:30 Mats_cd03: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPiKKfcjI-4

17:18:30 assbot: Hip-Hop Saved My Life (feat. Nikki Jean) (video) - YouTube

17:18:36 benkay: lived there 2006-2008

17:20:17 benkay: "Unfortunately you can't modify the configuration of an ELB after it is created."

17:20:21 benkay: you're fired, amazon.

17:20:54 Mats_cd03: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN6GO_MIQEE

17:20:54 assbot: WALLA - Nature (Official Music Video) - YouTube

17:21:46 Mats_cd03: ^ sounds like summer to me

17:21:57 bitcoinpete: benkay: and you had the good sense to leave

17:22:11 mircea_popescu: <benkay> enough dollars are enough dollars << suppose you got enough dollars in a us bank acct. now what ?

17:22:21 Mats_cd03: i slummed it for a year in flushing, queens

17:22:33 Mats_cd03: the chinese food was unbelievable

17:22:39 mircea_popescu: <benkay> "New York City is a mismanaged carnival of stupidity that is desperate for revenue and anxious to criminalize behavior once thought benign." << aye!

17:23:11 bitcoinpete: http://dailyscene.com/bitpay-now-top-funded-bitcoin-startup-after-raising-30-million/

17:23:12 assbot: BitPay Now Top-Funded Bitcoin Startup After Raising $30 Million | DailyScene.comDailyScene.com

17:23:16 mircea_popescu: jborkl_ wd.

17:23:22 bitcoinpete: "There's a new leader in the Bitcoin startup space, at least in terms of funding." << HAHAHAH

17:23:44 mircea_popescu: derp.

17:24:00 mircea_popescu: bitpay is running out of space to burn.

17:24:11 mircea_popescu: and the revenue figures are so awful they've not even released them

17:24:26 benkay: although w/r/t criminalizing common behavior i was charged with both a minor in posession and public drunkenness. a few months later i got a letter saying the cop hadn't showed for the trial and so charges had been dismissed.

17:24:38 Mats_cd03: lol

17:25:28 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/jeremyhills/radiohead-everything-in-its

17:25:29 assbot: Radiohead - Everything in its right place (Jeremy Hills end of the world remix) by Jeremy Hills on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

17:25:42 bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/466267933149106177

17:25:43 assbot: Top-funded #bitcoin startup is now /BitPay http://t.co/EvndDUI950

17:25:46 pankkake: oh god Maia Mazaurette

17:25:55 pankkake: shitty blogger turned "journalist"

17:25:56 Mats_cd03: fluffypony: didnt spot that last message, glad you like it

17:27:22 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/466268371684982784

17:27:23 assbot: /sfiegerman Suppose you try that research thing next time ? MPEx is valued /772500 BTC. And has been, for a year. http://t.co/luJbV9SZ8s

17:27:25 mircea_popescu: harsh enough ?

17:28:10 Mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB_zi69GQFg

17:28:10 assbot: Lay Me Down - The Oh Hello's - YouTube

17:28:37 FabianB: does MPEx still count as startup? :)

17:28:57 mike_c: yes

17:28:58 mircea_popescu: it's not been acquired yet, has it.

17:29:16 FabianB: true

17:29:30 Mats_cd03: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8PZ9ECVOaI

17:29:30 assbot: The Colourist - Yes Yes - YouTube

17:29:31 mike_c: classic late-stage startup now. although it got there quicker than most :)

17:30:57 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: not nearly harsh enough

17:31:28 mircea_popescu: yea well, what can i say, im a softie.

17:31:28 bitcoinpete: https://www.bitpremier.com/items/view/476 <<300 btc for a signed apple 128k. yikes

17:31:29 assbot: BitPremier — The Very First Apple Macintosh model: 128K

17:31:50 mircea_popescu: mike_c thing is, unlike most any entrepreneurial kid, i'm not here to sell out. i'm hire to stomp the entire fucking vc tower of derp.

17:31:52 mircea_popescu: and other things.

17:32:38 mike_c: although, most of the kids that are there to sell out don't make it to late stage. a decent amount of the ones that do make it to late stage are the ones who have loftier goals (often world domination)

17:33:13 mircea_popescu: i will say tho my goal isn't world domination.

17:33:22 mircea_popescu: my goal is merely the utter destruction of the present world.

17:33:26 mike_c: that's zuckerbergs.

17:33:29 benkay: BURN IT ALL

17:33:30 mike_c: (world dom)

17:33:41 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how much destruction? back to 0?

17:33:48 mircea_popescu: srsly. i don't mean to control. i merely mean to ruin.

17:33:55 chetty: all the much vaunted 'journalists' do is regurgitate press releases.

17:33:59 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller back to pre-us.

17:34:16 mircea_popescu: !up jespern

17:34:21 mircea_popescu: !up Jezzz

17:34:27 mircea_popescu: damned tab

17:34:46 Jezzz: heh

17:34:50 Jezzz: ozbot can't talk here either

17:35:10 mircea_popescu: Jezzz ozbot was down one day, then kakobrekla coded the title parser into assbot, then it became spammy

17:35:25 Jezzz: *shrug*

17:35:29 Jezzz: i can remove him then I suppose

17:35:32 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you may find this quote from my piano teacher interesting "The interesting thing about Obama is when he takes control of a bankrupt country and keeps it running. In any other place in the world the country would shut down and start over. So no one has any idea what he actually does."

17:35:57 mircea_popescu: Jezzz he can stay, that way when assbot is down i can elbow kako :D

17:36:15 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not so sure that has much to do with obama tho.

17:36:50 mircea_popescu: seems a very organic problem. in any sane country, once a family is bankrupt the man will send the bill collectors packing, the wife and her daughters to work the streets, and the boys out into the world.

17:37:02 mircea_popescu: in the us tho, they just keep buying new couches while carefully avoiding the subject.

17:37:06 mircea_popescu: it;s insanity.

17:37:11 thestringpuller: exactly!

17:37:24 mike_c: !up Mats_cd03 despite the radiohead link

17:40:33 Mats_cd03: heh. not a fan of the mix or radiohead?

17:40:45 mike_c: surprisingly i liked the mix. not a radiohead fan

17:40:55 chetty: I don't think they are buying new couches anymore, now they just rearrange the deck chairs

17:41:42 mircea_popescu: soon to be the deck chair

17:42:38 Mats_cd03: i'm curious to see how this collapse plays out in earnest

17:42:59 mircea_popescu: makes two of us

17:43:11 mircea_popescu: course it's really legion of us, but anyway

17:43:59 Mats_cd03: his name is robert paulson

17:44:20 chetty: I won't even look if they will just get on with it

17:46:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.45046251 = 7.2074 BTC [-] {6}

17:47:05 Mats_cd03: i am surprised the us has made it this long with so much debt

17:47:17 mircea_popescu: tech boom.

17:47:42 mircea_popescu: that's the really surprising part here. it's fucking unbelievable that the moore law held,

17:48:01 mircea_popescu: and that all the shit happened in such a close succession

17:48:04 Mats_cd03: didnt that stop being true two years ago

17:48:17 mircea_popescu: kinda same time the us stopped making it, you notice ?

17:48:58 Mats_cd03: i had some refreshingly (funny) insight the other day

17:49:16 Mats_cd03: a friend suggested, why does the universe have to start somewhere?

17:49:40 Mats_cd03: its human to think all things have origins

17:49:56 Mats_cd03: same friend said, well they can just keep upping the debt limit and its all good

17:50:03 Mats_cd03: (in another conversation) i laughed

17:52:07 thestringpuller: eigenvalues are so fucking cool

17:52:13 thestringpuller: math is so fucking cool

17:52:16 thestringpuller: why the fuck do people hate math

17:52:25 thestringpuller: fucking americans

17:53:05 mike_c: because theoretical science isn't as fun as engineering.

17:53:07 *: danielpbarron likes math v.much

17:53:30 thestringpuller: engineering requires math

17:53:41 thestringpuller: you gonna build a bridge and not know how to count?

17:53:44 thestringpuller: da fuq is dis shit

17:53:46 mike_c: indeed. it requires many annoying things.

17:53:52 mircea_popescu: lol

17:54:14 danielpbarron: engineers fudge numbers; mathematicians give absolutely precise answers

17:54:14 benkay: jesus + math

17:55:20 benkay: christ a wildcard ssl cert is 2 grand

17:55:28 mike_c: gtfo

17:55:30 mike_c: where?

17:55:46 benkay: symantec

17:55:50 benkay: i'm clearly in the wrong biz

17:55:58 benkay: mike_c: who do you use?

17:56:08 mike_c: http://ssl.comodo.com/wildcard-ssl-certificates.php << $335 / year

17:56:08 assbot: Save money with Wildcard SSL Certificate from Comodo

17:56:18 benkay: http://www.register.com/product/security-sslcertificates/wildcard.rcmx

17:56:19 assbot: Wildcard SSL Certificate (Unlimited Subdomains) - Digital SSL Certificates for your Website

17:56:28 benkay: ^^ 245

17:56:54 Mats_cd03: good news for spacex http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/13/uk-ukraine-crisis-russia-usa-idUKKBN0DT18L20140513

17:56:57 assbot: Russia targets space projects in response to U.S. high-tech sanctions| Reuters

17:57:14 fluffypony: wildcard certs are so pricey

17:57:35 fluffypony: but

17:57:36 fluffypony: https://www.ssls.com/comodo-ssl-certificates/essentialssl-wilcard.html

17:57:39 assbot: Comodo EssentialSSL Wildcard Certificates from $89.99/yr

17:57:39 fluffypony: $90/year

17:57:56 fluffypony: (or $99/year if you only take it for 1 year)

17:58:03 benkay: yeah that's a far better deal

17:58:16 benkay: once again, reaping the benefits of -assests.

17:58:32 fluffypony: yep

17:58:53 fluffypony: oh and ssls.com is NameCheap

17:58:57 fluffypony: part of the same group

17:59:04 fluffypony: but without the shitty "enhances" interface

17:59:09 fluffypony: *enhanced

17:59:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.073025 = 0.2921 BTC [+] {2}

18:00:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]

18:00:32 benkay: namecheap has 'em at 85 for five years

18:00:34 benkay: what a goddamn racket.

18:01:06 mike_c: but you need the underbody wash with your ssl cert. that's extra.

18:01:12 fluffypony: hah hah

18:01:14 benkay: herr mircea_popescu how do we fix this certificate authority crap

18:01:17 fluffypony: does it come with a spoiler?

18:02:19 pankkake: try CACert. though even Debian removed them :/

18:02:34 mike_c: i thought the browsers don't like cacert?

18:03:06 pankkake: yeah. some linux distros (used to) ship it

18:03:37 pankkake: http://web.monkeysphere.info/ for something that would be better. or namecoin

18:03:37 assbot: The Monkeysphere Project

18:04:04 fluffypony: pankkake! bonsoir!

18:04:12 pankkake: coucou

18:04:21 mircea_popescu: benkay Naphex was working at it, but he's too lazy to specify

18:04:29 mircea_popescu: much rather would watch adsense traffic reports all day long

18:05:14 Mats_cd03: https://soundcloud.com/c2cdjs/down-the-road

18:05:16 assbot: Down The Road by C2C on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds

18:05:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 22 @ 0.07300008 = 1.606 BTC [-] {4}

18:08:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-]

18:14:31 benkay: what was naphex' approach again?

18:14:41 benkay: something in the dns record?

18:16:33 pankkake: but how do you securely transmit the DNS record? back to square one

18:17:13 pankkake: though even dnssec would be better than the current situation

18:18:12 mircea_popescu: pankkake you sign your own dns record in the comments field

18:18:58 mircea_popescu: hey pastebin afficionados : is this cool ? http://0bin.net/

18:18:58 assbot: 0bin - encrypted pastebin

18:19:39 pankkake: if you trust the javascript. though I plan to have a thing to do it in CLI

18:19:46 joecool: i always used this one http://sebsauvage.net/paste/

18:19:46 assbot: ZeroBin

18:19:53 joecool: for burn after reading stuff

18:20:02 mike_c: ;;ident Mats_cd03

18:20:02 gribble: Nick 'Mats_cd03', with hostmask 'Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hzvjztfvgzwtqoxz', is not identified.

18:20:46 mike_c: !up Mats_cd03 cmon, get the gribble.

18:21:01 danielpbarron: when I want an encrypted pastebin, i just encrypt with gpg --armor before posting

18:21:19 artifexd: benkay: You have said "ratm" a couple times. What does that mean? The best google returns is a reference to the Rage Against The Machine band.

18:21:51 danielpbarron: !up kdomanski

18:22:22 pankkake: artifexd: reverse ass to mouth?

18:22:26 joecool: danielpbarron: yes that works fine with people who use gpg, unfortunately they are still in the distant minority

18:22:31 mike_c: artifexd: that's what he's referring to.

18:22:46 danielpbarron: kdomanski, welcome to the Bitcoin community that's actually worth listening to

18:22:49 artifexd: aok

18:23:21 kdomanski: danielpbarron: isn't that what everyone calls themselves? ;]

18:24:21 pankkake: kdomanski: https://pankkake.headfucking.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/WeTakeOurselvesVerySeriously.jpg

18:24:37 pankkake: or remove https if you don't want the cert warning. oops

18:25:01 pankkake: I only force it for me

18:25:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07298148 = 0.2189 BTC [-] {2}

18:26:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]

18:28:37 chetty: lmao, Antarctica is melting, how much energy would that actually take?

18:29:07 mike_c: 1.21 jigawatts

18:29:23 TheNewDeal: ^

18:29:35 TheNewDeal: one point twenty one

18:30:14 kdomanski: huh

18:30:16 mike_c: although that is power, not energy.

18:31:47 mircea_popescu: <kdomanski> danielpbarron: isn't that what everyone calls themselves? ;] << good point.

18:32:01 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron so who's k domanski ?

18:32:37 danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, someone from #darkwallet

18:32:53 danielpbarron: I plugged this channel in there, and I guess he's interested

18:32:56 mircea_popescu: mike_c we took it to mean jigawatts*twoweek, obivously.

18:33:15 mircea_popescu: darkwallet being the thing taaki's currently hanging on to or am i confusing them

18:33:33 kdomanski: mircea_popescu: correct

18:33:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00100208 = 9.4697 BTC [+] {2}

18:33:50 mircea_popescu: so welcome.

18:34:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 220 @ 0.041 = 9.02 BTC [-]

18:35:32 kdomanski: pankkake: I love the blog

18:36:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.138 BTC [+]

18:38:26 benkay: http://theumlaut.com/2014/05/12/the-morality-of-futility/

18:38:26 assbot: The Morality of Futility | The mlaut

18:40:59 mircea_popescu: "That means that if someone is really passionate about solving global hunger, it might be most helpful for them to start this effort in their neighborhood instead of focusing overseas. "

18:41:18 mircea_popescu: such derp. somebody claims a passion for solving "world hunger" specifically because they have internalised being a failure at anything whatsoever,

18:41:33 mircea_popescu: and so prefer to focus on "problems" that are safely distant and conveniently untouchable by them.

18:42:08 mircea_popescu: if they could do anything even remotely useful at all, they;d be there doing it. like, probably dating and getting drunk with their friends, as higher marginal utility activities than "solving hunger in this one block"

18:43:14 kdomanski: I think you just solved the mystery of my procrastination in the face of the necessity to write my thesis -.-'

18:43:52 danielpbarron: is it safe to buy equipment on ebay that I intend to use for crypto?

18:44:04 danielpbarron: or should I stick to getting stuff only directly from manufacturers

18:44:27 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron like what equipment ? a used laptop ?

18:44:35 danielpbarron: 3821 USB Pinpad

18:44:44 danielpbarron: for an OpenPGP smart card

18:45:04 mircea_popescu: who's to know at this point. i'd have trouble trusting either

18:45:33 danielpbarron: yeh, hrm; I hopefully won't need it for long: I'm really eager to get my hands on a cardano

18:45:52 mircea_popescu: benkay is that umlaut thing the venue nell works at ?

18:46:03 chetty: don{t get anything for crypto that gets shipped - buy local off the shelf, random. (imho)

18:46:05 mircea_popescu: ye hear ascii ?

18:46:26 mircea_popescu: yeah, if you have a shelf where you live, may be better.

18:46:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23837 @ 0.00100036 = 23.8456 BTC [-]

18:50:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]

18:55:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]

18:59:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12522 @ 0.00100318 = 12.5618 BTC [+]

19:05:04 benkay: mircea_popescu: one of 'em.

19:07:34 benkay: ;;gettrust assbot Mats_cd03

19:07:35 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hzvjztfvgzwtqoxz. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Mats_cd03: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Mats_cd03 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Mats_cd03 | Rated since: never

19:07:50 benkay: ;;ident Mats_cd03

19:07:50 gribble: Nick 'Mats_cd03', with hostmask 'Mats_cd03!sid23029@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hzvjztfvgzwtqoxz', is identified as user 'Mats_cd03', with GPG key id 4743200292A09ACD, key fingerprint E6B855DAAF0F95E1628196BD4743200292A09ACD, and bitcoin address None

19:07:59 benkay: ;;rate Mats_cd03 1 dj

19:08:00 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Mats_cd03 has been recorded.

19:08:25 thestringpuller: ::rate Mats_cd03 -1 listens to radiohead

19:08:27 thestringpuller: jkjkjk

19:08:36 thestringpuller: ;;lasers

19:08:36 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/in-which-we-read-adam-gurri/

19:08:37 assbot: In which we read Adam Gurri pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:08:37 gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*

19:08:42 mircea_popescu: see what you've done benkay ?

19:09:37 benkay: a fraudsters is me

19:10:02 mike_c: ;;rate Mats_cd03 1 helped me with some dev stuff

19:10:03 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Mats_cd03 has been recorded.

19:10:14 Mats_cd03: ;;rate benkay 1 web derpveloper

19:10:15 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user benkay has been recorded.

19:10:37 mircea_popescu: haha

19:10:46 thestringpuller: mike_c: what's teh action?

19:11:34 mike_c: thestringpuller: we are not connecting on jargon :) what action? hot bitbets?

19:11:44 thestringpuller: any action yo!

19:11:45 thestringpuller: where da money at

19:11:48 thestringpuller: where da work at?

19:12:06 Mats_cd03: this difficulty bet is interesting

19:12:20 mircea_popescu: i think he's trying to get hired.

19:12:23 benkay: derpveloper.

19:12:37 mike_c: well, there is some interesting hedging to be done between: http://bitbet.us/bet/796/an-eastern-conference-team-will-win-the-nba/ and http://bitbet.us/bet/842/spurs-to-win-2014-nba-finals/

19:12:38 assbot: BitBet - An Eastern Conference team will win the NBA Finals :: 0.97 B (48%) on Yes, 1.06 B (52%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 3 days | weight: 92`589 (100`000 to 90`000)

19:12:38 assbot: BitBet - Spurs to win 2014 NBA Finals :: 0.64 B (48%) on Yes, 0.68 B (52%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 1 day| weight: 79`853 (100`000 to 1`000)

19:13:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00100351 = 29.3025 BTC [+] {3}

19:13:25 mike_c: but you got to get in quick while spurs bet still has reasonable weight.

19:14:41 mike_c: also, i think X.IDIFF.SEP is going to be fun. put in some early bids/asks and get a good price.

19:15:27 mike_c: then hedge on bitbet or cex.io

19:18:19 mircea_popescu: !up napedia

19:22:34 thestringpuller: mike_c: aren't you not supposed to hedge with a prediction market?

19:22:42 thestringpuller: i thought prediction markets were just toys

19:23:31 mike_c: bitbet? it can be useful for hedging if used correctly.

19:23:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 24 @ 0.041 = 0.984 BTC [-]

19:24:41 davout: andreas gets mad when reminded that cloudflare == derpage : https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/466289061989474304

19:24:42 assbot: WARNING: Do not provide your blockchain credentials to any unauthorized apps. There is no official iOS Blockchain app. Such apps are fake

19:25:40 thestringpuller: mike_c: is it okay if I comment on your article with more maths about betting boths sides of bitbet?

19:25:50 mike_c: of course!

19:26:18 mike_c: thestringpuller: example: http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/#b1

19:26:18 assbot: BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 :: 619.37 B (89%) on Yes, 74.04 B (11%) on No | closed 4 months 3 weeks ago

19:26:35 mike_c: made 88% roi despite late surge of bettors on yes

19:37:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00100034 = 29.41 BTC [-] {2}

19:38:52 mike_c: %t

19:38:55 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 220 Ask: 237 Last Price: 220 24h-Vol: 0k High: 220 Low: 220 VWAP: 220

19:45:24 TheNewDeal: mike_c those were some big bets

19:47:26 mike_c: TheNewDeal: yeah, it was a fun bet

19:47:44 mike_c: ThickAsThieves got killed :D

19:47:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.041 = 0.369 BTC [-]

19:48:26 TheNewDeal: 55 on no?

19:48:40 mike_c: something like that. it's in the logs.

19:49:23 TheNewDeal: you interested in http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/ at all?

19:49:23 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 30.09 B (76%) on Yes, 9.38 B (24%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 day| weight: 18`082 (100`000 to 1)

19:51:00 thestringpuller: yes yes he did

19:51:06 thestringpuller: and was mad at the other side

19:51:07 mike_c: not financially. i prefer to bet on diff with IDIFF.

19:51:20 mike_c: which is now possible finally.

19:51:45 thestringpuller: what's IDIFF?

19:51:46 benkay: why was it not possible before?

19:51:59 mike_c: benkay: because it kept blowing through the 2.9x cap

19:52:11 mike_c: thestringpuller: X.IDIFF on mpex

19:52:16 thestringpuller: oh

19:52:17 thestringpuller: yea

19:52:37 thestringpuller: if miners weren't so sketchy

19:52:42 thestringpuller: IDIFF would have a lot more volume

19:53:09 mike_c: well, really it has had more to with the fact that IDIFF can't go up by more than 2.9x per period and difficulty was going up much faster.

19:53:27 mike_c: so nobody in their right mind would sell it.

19:54:42 mike_c: i think a couple hundred btc worth went this period, and next period should be better.

19:55:17 mike_c: but who knows, still lots of hash coming out

19:56:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45562 @ 0.00099874 = 45.5046 BTC [-] {6}

19:57:42 davout: mircea_popescu: "(look at nick AND ip, too.)" <<< what about folks on webchat?

20:08:50 chetty: https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/466277726719332352/photo/1

20:08:51 assbot: Snowden docs: Photos show NSA agents intercepting packages, implanting spy hardware - http://t.co/Taz0CoBeWv

20:09:31 danielpbarron: chetty, what's your twitter handle?

20:09:49 mod6: forward soviet!

20:10:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 37 @ 0.00634001 = 0.2346 BTC [+]

20:10:26 mircea_popescu: davout well ip is part of their hostmask

20:10:36 danielpbarron: i retweeted that one; interesting how that pops up right after shipping equipment was discussed in here

20:12:21 davout: !up mary_poppins

20:12:34 mary_poppins: mircea_popescu: yep, you're right :D

20:12:53 mod6: wtf where's my spoon full of sugar

20:13:13 danielpbarron: chetty, nm; I think i figured out who you are. (adding you to my bitcoin-assets twitter list)

20:15:52 fluffypony: mod6: it makes the medicine go down, right?

20:15:59 mod6: fo sheezy

20:16:01 thestringpuller: most if not all my tweets are non-bitcion related

20:16:13 thestringpuller: i just like to rant and rave like a fouled mouth american who is going senile

20:16:41 danielpbarron: thestringpuller, am I following you?

20:16:58 thestringpuller: no

20:17:24 danielpbarron: it doesn't matter if a user doesn't talk about bitcoin; it's a good indicator that they make interesting content if they chat in here though

20:19:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07200001 = 0.288 BTC [-] {3}

20:20:02 chetty: danielpbarron, I don't tweet much, but I do retweet

20:20:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.041 = 0.287 BTC [-]

20:21:23 thestringpuller: chetty is a ghost

20:21:37 thestringpuller: <.<;;

20:21:43 fluffypony: needs moar ascii art, thestringpuller

20:36:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0240111 = 0.1201 BTC [-]

20:38:21 bitcoinpete: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla_model_s

20:38:22 assbot: What it's like to own a Tesla Model S - A cartoonist's review of his magical space car - The Oatmeal

20:38:25 fluffypony: davout: around?

20:38:35 bitcoinpete: batteries buying comic strips

20:38:54 davout: fluffypony: yes

20:39:32 fluffypony: davout: someone else on IRC says that they can post on btctalk no problem, but when they try PM it has that "last post from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago" message

20:39:38 fluffypony: PMs only, public posts are fine

20:39:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 67 @ 0.0240111 = 1.6087 BTC [-]

20:39:53 fluffypony: they live alone, no Opera off-road mode, no VPN, no proxy, no TOR

20:40:06 fluffypony: any idea what could cause that?

20:40:31 davout: fluffypony: you seem to be mistaken about my role on btctalk, i'm merely a glorified janitor for the french section

20:40:45 fluffypony: davout I know

20:40:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.03139998 = 1.256 BTC [-]

20:40:59 fluffypony: but I figured you'd know more than I, I've exhausted my help for the guy

20:41:05 davout: maybe you can't PM as a noob

20:41:12 *: fluffypony has no idea

20:41:13 davout: to avoid PM spam or whatever

20:41:16 fluffypony: could be

20:41:32 danielpbarron: fluffypony, I get that all the time; it also won't let me update my trust ratings when that happens

20:41:47 fluffypony: danielpbarron: and also definitely not on a shared connection etc. etc. ?

20:41:55 davout: fluffypony: if your friend has less than 50 posts i can ban him, that'll solve his problem, in some way

20:42:03 davout: :D

20:42:03 fluffypony: hah hah

20:42:10 fluffypony: not a friend, just someone in another room

20:42:17 danielpbarron: fluffypony, not shared with anyone else who would use that site

20:42:18 fluffypony: if it was a friend I would be all for banning them :-P

20:42:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.03139998 = 0.471 BTC [-]

20:43:04 fluffypony: danielpbarron: maybe post activity - his posts are also lowish like yours - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=328586

20:43:04 assbot: View the profile of Spollie

20:43:20 thestringpuller: !bait

20:43:26 thestringpuller: fine assbot

20:43:29 thestringpuller: ;;echo .bait

20:43:30 gribble: .bait

20:43:38 danielpbarron: fluffypony, that's what I assumed; I guess it'll always be like that for me (I haven't looked at that site in weeks i think)

20:43:47 thestringpuller: ozbot stop being lame

20:44:14 fluffypony: omw no bait

20:44:17 fluffypony: manual bait coming up

20:44:39 fluffypony: http://s15.motherlessmedia.com/dev272/0/563/030/0563030540.jpg

20:44:39 assbot: Error 403

20:44:45 fluffypony: well whatever assbot

20:45:23 bitcoinpete: .d

20:45:41 bitcoinpete: ...

20:49:03 fluffypony: bitcoinpete: all the bots are gone

20:49:11 fluffypony: except assbot

20:49:41 bitcoinpete: fluffypony: hmm

20:49:51 mircea_popescu: who's mary poppins ?!

20:50:01 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: old movie

20:50:05 fluffypony: with Julie Andrews

20:50:21 davout: mircea_popescu: she has this botomless bag

20:50:27 *: fluffypony loves old musicals

20:50:35 davout: i fucking love mary poppins

20:50:42 fluffypony: davout: me too

20:50:49 fluffypony: davout: in English or French tho?

20:51:00 davout: after watching it with my daughter it was the first time ever she wanted to spontaneously go clean up her room

20:51:16 fluffypony: LOL!

20:52:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0238023 = 0.119 BTC [-] {4}

20:52:01 davout: can't remember, if i was watching it with her it was prolly in french

20:53:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0235 = 0.141 BTC [-] {2}

20:53:19 fluffypony: ah nice

20:53:42 fluffypony: when the Bank of England stands! England stands!

20:53:53 fluffypony: and when the Bank of England falls! England Falls!

20:54:04 fluffypony: </mary_poppins_quotes>

20:58:50 fluffypony: bitcoinpete: aaaand now I want to buy a Tesla. thanks.

20:59:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [-]

20:59:44 bitcoinpete: fluffypony: lol i had that phase too. it passes

21:00:02 bitcoinpete: though there are a ton of them out this summer

21:00:13 bitcoinpete: our little city has jumped on the bandwagon

21:00:27 bitcoinpete: when the nearest dealer/service centre is 1000km away

21:04:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03139998 = 0.2512 BTC [-]

21:04:20 fluffypony: lol

21:04:27 fluffypony: well no charging stations here

21:04:38 fluffypony: but definitely interesting tech when they come

21:05:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 38 @ 0.00649341 = 0.2467 BTC [+] {3}

21:06:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]

21:06:51 mircea_popescu: fluffypony your manual bait is meh.

21:07:04 mircea_popescu: and obv i mean the noob thaty highlighted me, not the cultural referewnce

21:07:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.469 BTC [+]

21:07:54 mircea_popescu: actually i take that back. she's cute.

21:09:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39635 @ 0.00099492 = 39.4337 BTC [-] {4}

21:11:48 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete these people with their largest corp/largest event/largest urmom ass are funny.

21:12:09 mircea_popescu: maybe later this year someone also does the first sale of a bitcoin corp stock, and then it'll be even.

21:13:08 bitcoinpete: for the first time in their lives, they just need to use "in the us" after everything

21:13:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0313997 = 0.157 BTC [-]

21:14:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 43 @ 0.00623166 = 0.268 BTC [-] {3}

21:19:59 davout: mircea_popescu: can we discuss the "lock your account down by zeroing it" ?

21:20:27 davout: looks like the X.EUR bot locked itself out my mpex account again

21:20:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16316 @ 0.00099953 = 16.3083 BTC [+] {2}

21:21:06 mircea_popescu: davout sure.

21:21:44 davout: last time this happened the idea was "let's ask people if it's of use to anyone"

21:22:06 davout: so i'm asking, is anyone with a mpex account relying on this functionality for anything?

21:22:14 jurov: <mike_c> so nobody in their right mind would sell it. << you mean buy, there were sells above max :)

21:22:33 mike_c: jurov: well, yes :) sell below the cap.

21:22:39 davout: to summarize, if for any reason your BTC balance gets to zero your account gets locked

21:23:28 jborkl_: got all my loading placeholders replaced with variables- no visible loading to end user :)

21:30:17 jurov: davout its biggest use case is to catch derpy bots

21:32:12 jurov: or maybe mpex uses it to prevent numeric overflow.. would explain why overflow happened so far on asset balances only

21:32:24 fluffypony: so then are you supposed to keep a bare minimum balance in the account?

21:32:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.00099455 = 16.609 BTC [-] {2}

21:32:44 davout: fluffypony: currently yes

21:32:50 jurov: fluffypony: if you want to keep trading yes

21:32:58 davout: jurov: why is a bot that uses all available resources be considered as derpy ?

21:32:59 mircea_popescu: jurov i think that's more a matter of, whether you buy or sell, you buy or sel la number of shares, not a qty of cash.

21:33:00 *: fluffypony looks at his broker to make sure he has a minimum balance

21:33:27 bitcoinpete: fluffypony: lol

21:33:28 mircea_popescu: davout in general, it's a bad idea to execute unspecified actions.

21:33:29 jurov: i'm just in trollish mood

21:33:44 mircea_popescu: this is not a problem in most cases, but in high security applications it's good practice to never do it.

21:33:47 davout: jurov: :-)

21:33:50 fluffypony: bitcoinpete: one of many things I don't need to worry about and jurov does :)

21:34:09 bitcoinpete: right?!

21:34:32 bitcoinpete: jurov's a gem

21:34:32 jurov: but yes, not a bad precaution to always keep one satoshi there

21:34:35 davout: mircea_popescu: sure, i could add a check, but imo a RAND() quantity would count as unspecified, not a X where X may or may not be larger than my available cash

21:35:17 mircea_popescu: that seems purely arbitrary.

21:35:18 jurov: davout s your bot does not know what balance it has?

21:35:27 jurov: that's def derpy

21:35:49 davout: because the behaviour expected would be to execute the order up to the available resources, which incidentally happens for all other assets, *except* CxBTC, which is purely arbitrary too :-)

21:36:02 mircea_popescu: well even the x is arbitrary.

21:36:10 davout: jurov: sure it does

21:36:51 FabianB: ;;ticker --currency eur --last

21:36:52 gribble: 319.937022

21:38:36 davout: let me phrase the question a different way, "is it really desirable that it's not possible to put all your BTC in bids without locking your account down?"

21:38:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03101695 = 0.2481 BTC [-] {4}

21:39:28 mircea_popescu: seems the question you're trying to ask is more like,

21:39:45 mircea_popescu: "is it really desirable that i don't actually calculate what i want to buy before i place an order ?"

21:40:34 davout: the answer to this question is "i want to use whatever resources are available to populate the X.EUR order book"

21:40:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-]

21:41:06 jurov: is it such a big problem to subtract 1 satoshi from these resources?

21:41:08 mircea_popescu: so then held.eur/my.price

21:41:31 jurov: subtract/set aside

21:41:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]

21:43:33 mircea_popescu: !up Lee-

21:43:35 davout: yea, that's perfectly possible

21:43:52 davout: but i was under the impression you'd consider removing this feature if nobody was using it

21:44:46 davout: jurov: so far the bot actually checks asset balances and changes the order of canceling and placing orders if there are not enough assets to continuously keep orders on the book

21:45:11 davout: (versus cancel, and *then* replace orders, which would leave some times with no bid/ask)

21:45:50 mircea_popescu: davout yes, but consider has this wide timespan in my understanding.

21:46:17 davout: ok

21:46:58 davout: so i'll just post orders up to (BTC balance - 1 satoshi) for bids

21:47:35 davout: i'm not sure, when the account is locked can i cancel orders ? i seem to recall that the answer is no, amirite?

21:47:37 jurov: mircea_popescu: lock also locks pushes from the account?

21:47:51 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bni-JsgIQAE0zQO.png check that shit out

21:48:42 bitcoinpete: chicago doesn't have a reputation of corruption for nothin

21:49:01 bitcoinpete: and it's hard to imagine the lines in detroit are that long

21:49:26 mircea_popescu: jurov afaik no, but i'll have this dblckeched

21:49:52 FabianB: davout: is the lowest x.eur ask yours?

21:50:15 jurov: that would improve cold storage security.. any (leaked) push requests would fail until you deposit something

21:50:52 mircea_popescu: jurov tbh the locking acct feature is a leftover that i'd rather take out than expand

21:51:16 mircea_popescu: it doesn't REALLY make all that much sense.

21:51:23 davout: FabianB: X.EUR : S 1`500 @ 0.00317048BTC

21:51:24 jurov: i'm not using it anyway

21:51:37 FabianB: ic

21:52:00 mircea_popescu: $b x.eur

21:52:03 mircea_popescu: $depth x.eur

21:52:05 mpexbot: mircea_popescu: X.EUR Bids: ['309 @ 0.00310023', '214 @ 0.0030999', '101 @ 0.00309875', '1500 @ 0.00307881', '2400 @ 0.0019005']

21:52:06 mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['174 @ 0.00310046', '331 @ 0.00310304', '309 @ 0.00310354', '154 @ 0.00310467', '125 @ 0.00312483']

21:52:13 mircea_popescu: it's quite narrowly populated this thing

21:52:27 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00310046/0.00310023

21:52:27 gribble: 1.00007418804

21:52:31 mircea_popescu: o.O

21:52:48 Apocalyptic: dat spread

21:55:30 fluffypony: Apocalyptic: that's what HE said

21:55:38 Apocalyptic: heh

21:56:32 mircea_popescu: someone broke twitter.

21:57:01 bitcoinpete: ya the links seem buggered

21:57:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00099777 = 9.379 BTC [+]

21:57:21 mircea_popescu: http://www.qrk.cc/

21:57:22 assbot: Quark - Money reinvented by the people ( QuarkCoin QRK )

21:57:25 mircea_popescu: o look! the first altcoin

21:57:34 mircea_popescu: no sorry i mean the biggest cryptocurrency

21:58:22 mircea_popescu: https://quarkfoundation.cc/

21:59:02 mircea_popescu: "Quark is a decentralized crypto-currency that allows for the most fast and secure transactions in the world."

21:59:35 davout: mircea_popescu: can you buy pencils or a yard rake?

21:59:59 mircea_popescu: no, but soon it will be the first cryptoaltcurrency to offer pencils and yard raking.

22:00:51 mircea_popescu: i'm kinda rooting for Derp, the most fast and largest biggest secure herpurrency in the world.

22:01:00 mircea_popescu: well, "world". in the quantiverse.

22:03:30 fluffypony: Derp would never work

22:03:36 fluffypony: it doesn't have the word "coin" in the name

22:03:45 fluffypony: or a round logo that looks like a coin

22:03:51 Apocalyptic: derpcoin comes naturally from that

22:04:02 mircea_popescu: maybe derpit ?

22:04:05 Apocalyptic: not that it's a good name

22:04:10 fluffypony: BitDerp

22:04:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00099943 = 16.4406 BTC [+]

22:04:14 mircea_popescu: derbit

22:04:21 mircea_popescu: except with the b rotated see

22:04:31 fluffypony: Derdit?

22:04:35 fluffypony: Derpit?

22:04:44 mircea_popescu: herr bit!

22:04:49 mircea_popescu: der pit.

22:04:52 fluffypony: much confuse wow such currency naming exercise so language

22:05:33 mircea_popescu: we laugh, but i've had the occasion to see first hand people who, on account of all the time they spend devoid of human contact, actually speak like that.

22:05:56 fluffypony: :/

22:06:29 fluffypony: I have to break my brain to conform to that, it's worse than trying to talk like Yoda

22:06:52 mircea_popescu: it's the retarded child of a 90s cali valley girl with a

22:06:53 mircea_popescu: hm

22:06:56 davout: BingoBoingo seemed to have some skill to speak the dotcoin language

22:07:01 mircea_popescu: with a box of kellogg's cornflakes.

22:07:15 fluffypony: davout: BingoBoingo speaks dotcoin?

22:07:22 fluffypony: should we call him BingoBourse from now on?

22:07:24 mircea_popescu: well... he drinks.

22:07:24 davout: he does, quite brilliantly

22:07:35 davout: LOL both of you

22:07:43 jurov: irllol

22:09:20 fluffypony: 1 bottle of wine + 2nd whisky

22:10:13 mircea_popescu: lightweight.

22:10:16 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602950.msg6714086#msg6714086

22:10:16 assbot: New Shares on Bitcoin Bourse "TXT"

22:10:20 davout: fluffypony: faggot

22:10:23 mircea_popescu: i'm on my 198th chocolate truffle with a rum center.

22:10:26 fluffypony: davout:)

22:10:54 davout: mircea_popescu: i'll bring you a box of "mon chéri" next time

22:11:06 davout: pankkake and Apocalyptic would know these

22:11:14 mircea_popescu: meh supermarket chocolates

22:11:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32102 @ 0.00100258 = 32.1848 BTC [+] {4}

22:11:24 davout: ethanol, who fucking cares

22:11:30 mircea_popescu: it has to be made by hand in darkness and hidrated with virgin tears!

22:12:40 fluffypony: crazy

22:12:49 fluffypony: XXXProfit is not only still around

22:12:55 fluffypony: but paying dividends

22:13:05 davout: fluffypony: i'm excited about the bitcoin-central ticker IPO on bourse too

22:13:11 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602950.msg6694108#msg6694108

22:13:11 assbot: New Shares on Bitcoin Bourse "TXT"

22:13:12 fluffypony: davout: can't wait

22:13:16 mircea_popescu: ok that thread was hysterical.

22:13:52 davout: seriously, send BingoBoingo a bottle of something and invite dotcoin back, i have a stock of popcorn

22:14:05 fluffypony: can I buy him something online with Bitcoin?

22:14:13 mircea_popescu: no

22:14:28 fluffypony: well that complicates my life

22:14:28 mircea_popescu: only with farq, the first largest cryptoboink

22:14:32 fluffypony: OH

22:14:45 fluffypony: or QurafMajKoin

22:14:48 fluffypony: CPU only

22:14:50 fluffypony: No IPO

22:14:54 fluffypony: No Premine

22:14:57 fluffypony: FAIR LAUNCH

22:14:57 mircea_popescu: "only slightly premined"

22:15:14 fluffypony: Exchange and auction site at launch because we have mediocre PHP skills!

22:15:28 mircea_popescu: but wait, there's more! with every purchase you're entitled to one, slightly used, sliughtly worn, slightly slutty

22:15:29 mircea_popescu: WIFE

22:15:36 mircea_popescu: for no extra charge

22:15:42 fluffypony: LOL

22:15:43 mircea_popescu: (divorce proceedings charged separately)

22:15:48 fluffypony: you heard about the NFD thing, right?

22:15:52 mircea_popescu: no ?

22:15:55 fluffypony: this altcoin does an IPO

22:16:04 fluffypony: and they have an escrow

22:16:10 fluffypony: so it's a "safe" IPO

22:16:15 mircea_popescu: how's that work ?

22:16:18 fluffypony: then they shut down and disappear and so sad been hacked

22:16:28 fluffypony: except

22:16:29 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=540017.0

22:16:30 assbot: [Wallets Stolen By Hackers][We're Sorry][Contact Anon136 For Escrow]

22:16:37 fluffypony: that's from March 27

22:16:42 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580537.0

22:16:42 assbot: [Wallets Stolen By Hackers][We're Sorry][Contact Anon136 For Escrow]

22:16:48 mircea_popescu: "presumably due to our high profile"

22:16:49 mircea_popescu: o ic.

22:16:50 fluffypony: that's the new one that "shut down" two days ago

22:17:03 fluffypony: they're so lazy they're reusing their "we got hacked" message

22:17:15 mircea_popescu: ahahahaah

22:17:20 mircea_popescu: gotta keep the margins down.

22:17:24 fluffypony: yeah

22:17:30 mod6: omg

22:17:33 mircea_popescu: i tell you, the forum is headed to this fucktards and spam scripts bright future

22:17:34 mod6: lol

22:17:39 jurov: Our code has been dismantled << hows that a bad thing?

22:17:40 mircea_popescu: sorta like the foundation.

22:17:52 mircea_popescu: jurov no but they mean, if the code were good.

22:17:53 fluffypony: jurov: I still can't understand what that means

22:18:26 davout: 'Cryptocurrency will live on, but it's time for us to die.'

22:18:26 mircea_popescu: fluffypony like if your code was on a mantlepiece, right ?

22:18:27 chetty: bits and bytes scattered on the floor?

22:18:30 mircea_popescu: (because of its high profile)

22:18:33 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: that's what I figured

22:18:33 mircea_popescu: and then it fell off.

22:18:39 fluffypony: and then you dismantled it

22:19:07 mircea_popescu: "Our code has been dismantled, our hope has been crushed, and your coins are gone."

22:19:10 assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2C706FT.txt )

22:19:10 mircea_popescu: !b 1

22:19:10 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580537.msg6660935#msg6660935 - they pimped that IPO until 30 mins before it "closed"

22:19:10 assbot: [Wallets Stolen By Hackers][We're Sorry][Contact Anon136 For Escrow]

22:19:22 fluffypony: and then straight after that it was "stolen"

22:19:36 fluffypony: but re-using the "we got hacked" message is just lazy

22:19:45 mircea_popescu: so much lulz

22:19:48 fluffypony: I remember when scammers used to fake having an ASIC

22:20:04 fluffypony: nowadays they just have to announce a "fair launch" altcoin IPO

22:20:13 fluffypony: no need to fake your ASIC video demo any longer

22:20:15 mircea_popescu: "If you don't believe you can always use Anon escrow service. I think NFD-Coin is doing a good job with this IPO. but its better to pay a small escrow fee and be safe than sorry in my opinion."

22:20:25 mircea_popescu: clearly the opinions of nobody on the internet matter a lot.

22:20:33 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: sucks when the escrow *is* the scammer

22:20:43 fluffypony: and they re-use the scammer a month later

22:20:52 fluffypony: how does nobody notice this shit?

22:21:01 mircea_popescu: 55 pages, that thing

22:21:06 davout: fluffypony: do you actually care?

22:21:09 mircea_popescu: it's merged with reddit.

22:21:20 fluffypony: davout: morbid fascination

22:21:23 chetty: who,e new crop of idjuits each new moth ya know

22:21:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.44123334 = 3.9711 BTC [-] {5}

22:21:33 fluffypony: I think chetty has it right

22:21:37 jurov: what would change if anyone noticed?

22:21:41 fluffypony: there's enough churn that they can run the same scam

22:22:00 fluffypony: jurov: well...uh...errrm...

22:22:04 *: fluffypony has nothing

22:22:27 fluffypony: the mods would do nothing, the community would shout either way and nobody would care

22:22:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 360 @ 0.00673441 = 2.4244 BTC [+] {10}

22:22:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02301001 = 0.5753 BTC [+]

22:22:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.03137892 = 0.7845 BTC [+] {4}

22:22:45 mircea_popescu: "Of course it wasnt hackers. Before that claim was made, there was a password protected "beta test wallet" that was released. Only they had the passwords and there was no announcement of any hacking when teh password was revealed. It was later found that the zip contained nothing but a useless exe file that did nothing. This exe was put there intentionally by teh ones who had the password. The password was revealed by

22:22:45 mircea_popescu: the "dev", so the question of a "hacker" in between does not arise there."

22:22:54 mircea_popescu: the great and wise forumtards could not hack through the password "dev"

22:23:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0070725 = 1.4145 BTC [+] {3}

22:24:25 davout: i mean, after all, these scams serve the purpose of educating noobs by pain to a certain extent

22:24:40 mircea_popescu: nah.

22:24:51 mircea_popescu: if the forum were run by mpoe-pr, then it'd serve the purpose to educate.

22:25:20 mircea_popescu: as it is, it simply moves some pizzas from idiot us people to famished third worlders, and persuades even more us idiots that "crypto = scam"

22:25:45 fluffypony: davout: this is beyond education, though

22:25:49 mircea_popescu: pain without humiliation does not work as an educative device.

22:25:58 chetty: oh, so O's redistribution is at work

22:26:09 mircea_popescu: chetty man of his time.

22:27:14 davout: well then it still serves the purpose to reditribute food efficiently

22:27:17 davout: :D

22:27:41 mircea_popescu: mhm

22:28:07 mircea_popescu: scammers are doing more to end world hunger (and also break up idiotic sexual hang-ups in the 3rd world) than all western charities 100x over

22:28:16 davout: instead of being metabolized as fat it gets metabolized into energy for third worlders

22:28:47 davout: so in essence, it's a good thing mpoe-pr got banned, more food for nigerians

22:29:00 fluffypony: I thought it was only a temp ban tho?

22:29:05 mircea_popescu: yeah, she was an artefact of an era gone by.

22:29:17 mircea_popescu: the forum had its own calling.

22:29:19 davout: i think it would be a temp ban if she actually wanted to come back

22:29:41 fluffypony: that's true

22:30:01 chetty: haha never thought of that, shipping money to the 3rd world is waht libtards want, reddit should love all the scams

22:30:02 fluffypony: after focusing on the securities sub-forum for a few weeks

22:30:12 fluffypony: I can honestly say that I would not come back if I were her

22:30:31 fluffypony: telling people they're obviously retarded does nothing nowadays

22:30:35 fluffypony: they just get uppity

22:30:37 mircea_popescu: chetty they would love it, except it's THEIR money.

22:30:42 mircea_popescu: were it your money then it'd be fine.

22:30:51 mircea_popescu: which is why they want taxation.

22:31:16 chetty: haha, Thatcher, eventually you run out of other people's money

22:31:45 mircea_popescu: that's the govt's problem. let it create more jobs or w/e it does.

22:32:46 mircea_popescu: fluffypony you gotta appreciate, back in early 2012 the composition of that forum was significantly different.

22:32:59 mircea_popescu: there's a huge space between 85 iq and 65 iq.

22:33:11 fluffypony: true

22:33:20 davout: 2010 was actually good

22:33:22 mircea_popescu: and it's been losing about 1 point per month, roughly tracking the btc value

22:33:28 mircea_popescu: !up rum234

22:33:41 fluffypony: davout: before my time

22:34:05 fluffypony: although to be honest, if I'd discovered it in 2010 I don't think I would've had the knowledge and maturity to appreciate what I'd found

22:34:15 mircea_popescu: well in 2010 it was mostly satoshi. hearn hadn't shown up yet,

22:34:21 mircea_popescu: sirius was still posting even

22:34:41 davout: satoshi was posting ffs

22:36:11 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=47438 < this is how 2011 looked.

22:36:11 assbot: Bitcointa.lk: the Bitcointalk community with a proper forum | Bitcointa.lk

22:36:15 davout: he posted some stupid stuff too XD

22:37:06 mircea_popescu: back then scammers got trampled into the ground and they got all butthurt.

22:37:36 davout: altcoins were some distant theoretical construct

22:40:46 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=216717.msg2275578#msg2275578

22:40:46 assbot: First National Innovation Brokers exposed | Bitcointa.lk

22:40:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.02301 = 0.3912 BTC [-]

22:40:51 mircea_popescu: old drama. ah, such good days.

22:41:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00100494 = 16.1293 BTC [+]

22:43:48 davout: "Bitcoin Bourse is a decentralised digital market place"

22:43:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4323 @ 0.00100483 = 4.3439 BTC [-]

22:43:56 davout: how the fuck is it even decentralized

22:44:05 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=15.msg107#msg107 in case you're wondering "why sirius"

22:44:06 assbot: New Exchange Service: "BTC 2 PSC" | Bitcointa.lk

22:44:15 fluffypony: davout: my computer is in a different place to their server

22:44:19 fluffypony: so therefore decentralised

22:44:31 davout: no silly, that's p2p

22:45:31 davout: bitcoin bourse 'Human Shield'

22:45:47 davout: that's probably the only thing the guy could actually be good at

22:56:09 benkay: davout jurov mircea_popescu: der.py

22:56:31 davout: "Firefox ne peut trouver le serveur à l'adresse www.der.py."

22:57:32 davout: benkay: you got me excited

22:57:56 fluffypony: lol

22:59:21 fluffypony: time for sleepz

23:03:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00099961 = 22.7911 BTC [-]

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23:08:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]

23:08:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.072 = 0.144 BTC [-]

23:08:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.02399989 = 0.504 BTC [+] {2}

23:19:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00099979 = 4.2991 BTC [-]

23:29:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00100191 = 41.3789 BTC [+] {2}

23:31:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00430598 = 1.2918 BTC [-] {4}

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23:35:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7092 @ 0.00100349 = 7.1168 BTC [+]

23:59:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00099893 = 13.8851 BTC [-] {2}