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00:10:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 837 @ 0.001021 = 0.8546 BTC [-]

00:12:24 dexX7: kakobrekla: did you already receive your ips monitor? how is it compared to "some quality brand"?

00:15:58 kakobrekla: not yet, i think its gonna take a while.

00:16:43 thestringpuller: indoor positioning system?????

00:17:56 dexX7: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display#In-plane_switching_.28IPS.29 :)

00:17:57 ozbot: Liquid-crystal display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

00:20:08 kakobrekla: not sure if i should get 2 or 3.

00:20:33 pankkake: are those >1080p?

00:20:39 dexX7: 1440p imho

00:20:50 dexX7: i don't have the links

00:21:09 kakobrekla: 2560x1440

00:21:17 dexX7: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Achieva-Shimian-QH2700-IPSMS-Edge-Eco-27-LED-2560x1440-AH-IPS-DVI-PC-Monitor/131033629039?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D2660874548052918995%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251378161222%26

00:21:18 ozbot: Achieva Shimian QH2700 Ipsms Edge Eco 27" LED 2560x1440 AH IPS DVI PC Monitor | eBay

00:21:20 pankkake: I want a 2560x1600 ideally… I crave vertical resolution :)

00:21:25 pankkake: but those are rare

00:21:58 asciilifeform: pankkake: for vertical resolution, nothing beats 90 degree rotation.

00:22:13 pankkake: yeah, that's what I did at work. two 1080p rotated

00:22:21 pankkake: always intrigued people

00:22:22 dexX7: :D

00:30:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00082095 = 6.5676 BTC [+]

00:44:37 FUDdealer: i'm selling high impact fud. /query.. if you are satisfied with my proposal, you pay

00:45:37 asciilifeform: http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/

00:45:37 ozbot: Moxie Marlinspike >> Blog >> A Critique Of Lavabit

01:10:40 BingoBoingo: I think I might have to give up on creating a GPG keypair with the Mac SE/30

01:11:25 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: slow?

01:12:23 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Key generation is still continuing. Either the entropy is really good or it is relying too much on virtual memory to try to accomplish this which... I think defeats the purpose if there are going to be a bunch of hard drive writes of the process.

01:12:39 asciilifeform: chances are, it's waiting for keystroke entropy.

01:13:09 asciilifeform: what's the os on that box?

01:13:44 BingoBoingo: NetBSD the 68k version

01:14:21 BingoBoingo: It might take up more room, but I'm considering giving one of these a go http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUN-Ultra-80-Server-Quad-450MHz-4GB-Memory-73GB-HD-/111200002029?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item19e4095fed

01:14:25 asciilifeform: run strace on the process, if it is blocked, and see where.

01:15:23 BingoBoingo: Thanks, I'll give it a try before looking into giving up on making an late 80's machine relevant again.

01:15:40 Vexual: you go girl!

01:16:09 BingoBoingo: I'll also try mashing the keyboard to generate some entropy

01:16:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00013745 = 0.1237 BTC [-]

01:16:37 Vexual: does it have a mouses?

01:17:25 BingoBoingo: Vexual: It's a Macintosh. Of course it has a mouse. This is the machine in question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_SE/30

01:18:28 Vexual: i just wanted to say mouses

01:18:51 asciilifeform: dollars to doughnuts, it's blocking on entropy milking

01:19:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.293 BTC [-]

01:21:21 Vexual: http://vimeo.com/15351476

01:21:21 ozbot: Hold Fast on Vimeo

01:21:45 BingoBoingo: Fuck it, I'm just going to hit the off switch and read up on A/UX and see if there might be any way to build GPG on there.

01:22:09 BingoBoingo: That would probably also keep it more true to the "Vintage" theme

01:23:13 Vexual: sell it to a hipster and get a decent machine

01:24:33 nubbins`: ^ this, hipsters buy things

01:25:08 BingoBoingo: Vexual: The thing is there aren't many machines available that use so little bench space while not being x86 or ARM.

01:25:45 Vexual: yeah its a good choice

01:25:54 asciilifeform: entropy generation is the inevitable bottleneck here.

01:26:06 Vexual: shake the fucker

01:26:31 kakobrekla: why not x86 or arm again?

01:26:42 nubbins`: too commonplace to trust, i guess

01:26:43 dub: jesus an SE30

01:26:48 Vexual: coz paranoia

01:26:50 dub: what the fuck are you smoking

01:26:57 nubbins`: i wonder could like a game boy or nintendo DS or something generate gpg keys

01:27:05 Vexual: put your floppy in and out a few times

01:27:16 nubbins`: Vexual: that's what the lady said to the sailor

01:27:36 asciilifeform: none of this helps unless the system is actually programmed to gather entropy from said manipulations.

01:27:42 nubbins`: hm, ^

01:28:05 BingoBoingo: dub: Newports are what's being smoked.

01:28:08 Vexual: gather entropy from hipster jealousy

01:28:36 dub: smoking kills

01:28:40 nubbins`: http://www.dslinux.org/

01:28:40 ozbot: DSLinux - Linux for the Nintendo DS

01:28:42 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It seems like I might have to see if I can find the script that generates entropy from hookers and microphones from the fraudsters comments.

01:29:14 nubbins`: hipster jealousy is too uniform to be a good source of entropy

01:29:35 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: random bits aren't hard to come by, but consumer hardware never included a ready means for doing so

01:29:56 asciilifeform: (until fairly recently, and we all know the story there)

01:30:09 nubbins`: ;;echo ^

01:30:09 gribble: ^

01:30:25 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So it seems. I actually feel lucky this dinosaur includes a co processor for floating point math.

01:31:01 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you don't need FP for gpg.

01:31:27 Vexual: youre right nubbins' im thinking of enthalpy

01:32:01 nubbins`: heh

01:32:10 nubbins`: and i just learned a new word

01:32:15 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I know, but the FPU helps when doing maths. One thing the SE/30 did well was run python.

01:33:22 asciilifeform: some maths, somewhere, but not gpg (or rsa in general)

01:33:34 BingoBoingo: Yeah, that is all huge int's

01:34:00 BingoBoingo: Vexual: If you want to do an imaging this is a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumoencephalography

01:34:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00082118 = 39.5398 BTC [+] {3}

01:35:00 thestringpuller: ;;echo the poop lives

01:35:00 gribble: the poop lives

01:35:11 asciilifeform: (cardano is perfectly happy with no FPU.)

01:39:04 Vexual: you gonna hack a scanner with an xray tube and hook it up to your old mac?

01:39:17 Vexual: totaly harsh bro

01:39:20 BingoBoingo: Well, I mean I've been using the SE/30 for non-crypto maths as well.

01:40:04 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why?

01:40:05 BingoBoingo: Vexual: Oh the X-ray was the least harsh part of pneumoencephelopathy. Consider the root words. Where is air going?

01:41:48 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mostly python scripts for modeling various things. Not usually useful things, but more as a self improvement thing.

01:41:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00081581 = 4.4462 BTC [-]

01:42:03 asciilifeform: to develop the virtue of... patience?

01:44:17 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Patience is a part of it.

01:45:01 asciilifeform: old hardware can be a joy; learn 68k asm, write something nice & clean. but python?

01:46:28 nubbins`: okay, so the poor sap who tried to buy one of my casascius coins at below face value on coingig sent me a "how do i know this isn't a scam?!" message

01:46:43 nubbins`: i politely informed him that the listing was removed 3 months ago and coingig keeps resurrecting it against my wishes

01:46:50 nubbins`: i then sent coingig a scathing email

01:46:59 nubbins`: so scathing, in fact, that my account doesn't exist anymore

01:47:04 nubbins`: AMAZING MARKETPLACE

01:47:41 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The thing is python makes it easy to write something. The joy though comes from !import (your bit of 68k asm) and gradually removing the python.

01:50:28 dub: wtf is a coingig

01:51:35 BingoBoingo: In other news apparently p=0.05 is no longer good enough http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/11/is-it-time-to-up-the-statistical-standard-for-scientific-results/

01:51:54 nubbins`: dub, it's like bitmit but even more of a piece of shit

01:52:03 nubbins`: because you can't even set the price of your items in btc

01:55:28 Vexual: statistical analysis of statitstical analysis. yay science

01:56:02 nubbins`: i got my lowest non-fail mark in statistics, 56%

01:56:17 Vexual: doesnt count

01:56:32 nubbins`: neither did my positive attitude

01:56:58 Vexual: how can you tell? you alm,ost failed stats!

01:58:40 nubbins`: i used a z table, duh

01:58:52 nubbins`: (that's a thing, right?)

01:58:59 Vexual: yeah, that works

01:59:32 nubbins`: heh

01:59:54 nubbins`: anyway, turns out you can get a degree in mathematics without having done more than a single stats course

02:00:34 Vexual: blindly accepting whatver your stats software says is the accepted model

02:00:42 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: That is because mathematics and statistics are different things, I've been told... At least by the mathematicians.

02:00:51 nubbins`: very true

02:00:55 mircea_popescu: ya!

02:01:03 nubbins`: there were three majors that fell under the umbrella of the math dept: pure math, applied math, and stats

02:01:25 nubbins`: in my infinite wisdom, i decided that pure math would provide me with the best job prospects

02:01:38 mircea_popescu: hahaha

02:02:48 nubbins`: i was chagringed to learn that the rest of the world takes "1+1=2" as an axiom

02:03:05 nubbins`: (and mildly displeased that it took four hours of lectures to prove it!)

02:03:25 dub: and now you're a professional artist

02:03:43 asciilifeform: nubbins`: took russel&whitehead a meter of bookcase to prove.

02:04:12 mircea_popescu: lol dub hasi t.

02:04:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00081581 = 4.4054 BTC [-]

02:04:23 nubbins`: indeed he does!

02:04:30 nubbins`: there might be a moral in there somewhere

02:04:50 mircea_popescu: i have no idea how this guy can simultaneously believe in global warming but also understand subtle points about math and art.

02:04:52 nubbins`: asciilifeform: we had the benefit of history, we were able to gloss over some of the lead-up

02:05:09 mircea_popescu: i think he may be a professional troll.

02:05:23 nubbins`: professionals get paid ;)

02:05:35 Vexual: :)

02:05:43 dub: technically the internet is for trolling and I get paid to internet

02:05:46 mircea_popescu: professionals do a good job, whether for pay or pro bono

02:05:53 nubbins`: oh, fair enough

02:06:03 Vexual: are you double pro then mp?

02:06:35 Vexual: oh wait, i thought pro bono was something else

02:06:39 nubbins`: although on that tack, i'm a professional printer, not a professional artist ;)

02:06:59 assbot: Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1459137/plain/)

02:06:59 mircea_popescu: !b 6

02:07:06 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mostly for the "pro bono" thing :D

02:08:11 mircea_popescu: so i could write an article tit-led "normative heterosexuality for women, a guide" or else an article about good and bad uses of irc chans.

02:08:20 mircea_popescu: which would the crowd prefer to see first ?

02:08:38 dub: women are not hetero

02:08:56 Vexual: id like to read something about cake, whichever that fits ionto better

02:09:04 Vexual: or dragons

02:09:08 nubbins`: given that i'm really just here to mess with the signal-to-noise ratio, i'd like to see the latter

02:09:22 mircea_popescu: aite.

02:09:58 mircea_popescu: dub you are mistaken. it's not that women aren't hetero, it's that women eating out women is quite hetero.

02:10:18 dub: I thought about that possiblity as I typed

02:10:35 mircea_popescu: this is how the internet ends up broken

02:10:46 mircea_popescu: dubs think about the possibility as they rm -rf *internet

02:11:10 nubbins`: "Are you sure you want to send 'the internet' to the Recycle Bin?"

02:13:52 mircea_popescu: by the way, what's the ":3" emoticon mean ?

02:14:01 nubbins`: cat face

02:14:10 mircea_popescu: is it "my face is assshaped" or "my tongue is coming out directly of my eyes" ?

02:14:29 Vexual: Flambé Failure, mostache inverted

02:14:33 mircea_popescu: nubbins` like :} ? crooked smile ?

02:14:41 nubbins`: no, it's seriously the face of a cat

02:14:54 mircea_popescu: well presumably a 23 yo human typed it.

02:15:03 mircea_popescu: you saying rather than a young woman it's really a very old pussy ?

02:15:05 nubbins`: divide that number in half

02:15:12 Vexual: sacré bleu!

02:15:28 nubbins`: old pussies can still catch mice

02:15:31 nubbins`: "Hi Jon, Yes we spoke with the seller that told us that you had taken down all of your products so we thought you wanted your account closed so we went ahead and closed it, but we did not know that you were still using it."

02:15:37 nubbins`: once again, coingig: amazing company

02:15:37 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

02:15:49 mircea_popescu: nubbins` you should ipo it on cryptosticks.

02:16:08 nubbins`: sticks and binds

02:17:10 nubbins`: what i should do is roll a large "jazz cigarette" and walk to the bank

02:17:39 BingoBoingo: I wonder how long until someone IPOs S.MPOE on SticktoCrypt

02:18:05 nubbins`: StryptoCocks

02:18:10 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dudes had done their research, teppy had been inactive on forum for a while

02:18:21 nubbins`: letter transposition is seriously one of my true joys

02:18:31 nubbins`: wordplay in general, really

02:18:40 KRS1: /me

02:19:04 BingoBoingo: Hadn't Kumala been inactive on the forum as well?

02:19:47 nubbins`: it's amazing how quickly people get pissed off when you immediately clatter off the acronyms of the sentences they say

02:19:47 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

02:20:18 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lmao.

02:20:43 mircea_popescu: someone should ipo cryptostocks on cryptotheother thing

02:20:44 mircea_popescu: and vice-versa

02:20:52 asciilifeform: http://wry.me/~darius/writings/language-ranking.html

02:20:53 ozbot: The superiority of actor languages

02:21:10 BingoBoingo: And to my knowledge Kumala hasn't hired or credentialed a PR. Maybe CryptoSticks-PR should be an account?

02:21:15 asciilifeform: "Haskell code" <-> "sad coke hell"

02:21:27 mircea_popescu: ah goode one!

02:21:41 mircea_popescu: mod6 you gotta see that link

02:21:44 asciilifeform: "C-plus-plus code" <-> "C does cull pups"

02:21:45 asciilifeform: etc

02:21:59 nubbins`: "code in c sharp" = "cached prison"

02:21:59 nubbins`: leel

02:22:21 mircea_popescu: no basic ?!

02:22:29 nubbins`: also, "chain'd corpse"

02:22:54 mircea_popescu: that thing needs basic.

02:22:57 nubbins`: code in basic -> cocaine dibs

02:23:00 mircea_popescu: yeah!

02:23:17 Vexual: needs to bein in html 1.0, those tables look wrong

02:23:21 nubbins`: "seriously guys, somebody cut me up a hollywood. i'm done with this shit"

02:24:10 nubbins`: i lel'd heartily the first time i heard the word "hollywood" used in that sense

02:26:35 Vexual: face sick?

02:26:51 asciilifeform: 'basic code' -> 'coca bides'.

02:27:26 nubbins`: heh

02:27:32 nubbins`: coca does bide

02:28:17 Vexual: Alembic Piss

02:28:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00081581 = 9.1779 BTC [-]

02:29:31 nubbins`: "mircea popescu" -> "a cum periscope"

02:29:42 mod6: lol perl => old creep

02:29:44 Vexual: ouch#

02:30:26 nubbins`: also, "coca empire, sup"

02:30:30 nubbins`: anyway! bank run

02:30:48 mircea_popescu: lol sup

02:37:37 Vexual: let $codeinbasic = "Dab Ice Sonic"

02:39:00 kakobrekla: >This will be our third exchange move. Not many assets have lived through GLBSE then BTC-TC and now Havelock, but Cognitive will proudly surge forward!

02:39:02 kakobrekla: ah well.

02:44:42 Vexual: ax errs on try

03:07:07 mircea_popescu: i can't believe you dorks spent hours discussing fistifucing me.

03:07:37 Vexual: liar

03:13:27 dub: cum soap recipe

03:14:11 dub: rape cope music

03:17:45 dub: kakobrekla: oak bark elk

03:19:21 dub: asciilifeform == official miser

03:19:38 dub: a orifices film

03:22:45 vexualanagram: do me do me

03:27:17 asciilifeform: there we go.

03:27:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.044 = 0.132 BTC [-] {2}

03:28:15 vexualanagramith: A Vegan Hula Matrix

03:28:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 0.0439 = 0.1756 BTC [-]

03:29:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 17 @ 0.04000588 = 0.6801 BTC [-] {4}

03:30:26 vexualanagramith: Vantage Aim Ax Hurl

03:30:44 nubbins`: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/11/11/venezuela-seizes-stores/3497003/

03:30:44 ozbot: Venezuela vows to take other stores in attack on retailers

03:31:12 vexualanagramith: A Taxer Valuing Ham

03:31:18 mircea_popescu: http://nypost.com/2013/10/09/mob-wanted-johnny-carson-dead-after-drunken-flirtation/

03:31:19 ozbot: Mob wanted Johnny Carson dead for flirting | New York Post

03:31:49 vexualanagramith: A Lava Exam Hurting

03:35:03 vexualanagramith: A Guava Lather Minx

03:35:41 nubbins`: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/12/1553216/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-vanishes-taking-25m-of-coins-with-it

03:35:41 ozbot: Chinese Bitcoin Exchange Vanishes, Taking £2.5m of Coins With It - Slashdot

03:37:25 dub: good shit venezuela

03:37:32 dub: nationalise all the things

03:37:41 dub: eat the rich

03:40:06 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/two-examples-of-irc-misuse-with-ample-commentary/

03:40:07 ozbot: Two examples of IRC misuse, with ample commentary. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:40:08 mircea_popescu: here we go.

03:42:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59880239 BTC [-]

03:44:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.599999 = 1.8 BTC [+]

03:47:15 mircea_popescu: In a 1956 letter to J. Edgar Hoover, a former member of the Army Intelligence Service stated that Presley was a "definite danger to the security of the United States" because he had driven girls and boys mad!

03:47:15 mircea_popescu: The author further criticized Elvis's "motions and gestures, like those of masturbation or riding a microphone," and added that "Indications of the harm Presley did ... were two high school girls (...) whose abdomen and thigh had Presley's autograph. ... There is also gossip of the Presley Fan Clubs that degenerate into sex orgies." The letter concluded with the assumption that, based on eyewitness reports, Presley was

03:47:15 mircea_popescu: "a drug addict and a sexual pervert."

03:47:30 mircea_popescu: i hope that any future prosecutions of bitcoin include rock&roll caselaw.

03:48:27 Vexual: B3

03:48:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 550 @ 0.00567771 = 3.1227 BTC [-] {7}

03:54:00 mircea_popescu: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303763804579183680751473884

03:54:01 ozbot: Andrew Huszar: Confessions of a Quantitative Easer - WSJ.com

03:59:37 mircea_popescu: "We were working feverishly to preserve the impression that the Fed knew what it was doing."

03:59:43 mircea_popescu: why do these dorks sound so much like bitcointalk.

04:00:20 asciilifeform: venezuela == cia project, public service reminder that communism -> no plasma tvs. you read it here 1st...

04:01:20 mircea_popescu: you know there's no need of divine intervention to explain why idiots jumping off buildings go splat.

04:01:44 mircea_popescu: similarly, there's no need to involve the world's least competent secret service to explain why chavez went nowhere.

04:02:02 asciilifeform: normally when you get millions of idiots happily jumping, rather than the odd one or two, somebody's built a convenient ramp.

04:02:09 mircea_popescu: nope.

04:02:27 mircea_popescu: i tell you, if cia were involved the only difference would be a ton of leaked "secret" documents

04:02:51 asciilifeform: probably right.

04:03:06 asciilifeform: i just like to imagine that the 1950s cia lives on, somewhere

04:03:08 mircea_popescu: should be the pia, polychinelle's intelligence agency

04:03:12 asciilifeform: in a bunker.

04:03:14 mircea_popescu: "everyone knows except congress"

04:04:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]

04:05:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12000001 BTC [+]

04:05:16 Vexual: http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3264/2832264311_52acb2db27_o.jpg

04:06:38 nubbins`: ?

04:06:38 asciilifeform: Vexual: yours?

04:06:53 Vexual: no, i disklike creme brule

04:09:44 asciilifeform: the cia described in the well-known 'mr. death' must have been a beautiful place to work.

04:09:46 asciilifeform: http://highpowerrocketry.blogspot.com/2010/09/magic-bullets-and-other-cia-inventions.html

04:09:47 ozbot: High Power Rocketry: Inventing death: Interview with a (maybe) CIA weapons designer

04:11:51 mircea_popescu: the moral of the internet is that why work for a studio to do your movie ? work for some guys you personally know and like/

04:12:12 mircea_popescu: this is true of everything, it doesn't stop with books and movies. the same is true of each and every human activity, from car design to espionage.

04:12:46 mircea_popescu: in the not-so-distant future all the national secret services will consist of will be a list of credentials to allow them to get on say #bitcoin-assets

04:13:13 asciilifeform: i asked a colleague recently, 'doesn't every boy dream of running his own kgb' and he looked at me 'funny.'

04:13:42 mircea_popescu: funny haha or funny ouch ?

04:15:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60999999 BTC [+]

04:16:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 100000 @ 0.00013757 = 13.757 BTC [+] {4}

04:16:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]

04:20:28 BingoBoingo: Gawker finally made something not totally horrible http://gawker.com/after-30-years-of-silence-the-original-nsa-whistleblow-1454865018

04:21:33 Vexual: and asciilifeform was never accepted into that early childhood learning program.

04:22:19 mircea_popescu: "The four-story brownstone at 141 East 37th Street in Manhattan has no remarkable features: a plain building "

04:22:28 mircea_popescu: this Method writing style is becoming unbearable.

04:24:07 Vexual: isn't everyone an nsa analyst now? wheres the story?

04:44:35 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I didn't say the prose wasn't bad

04:44:57 mircea_popescu: yeah.

04:45:37 BingoBoingo: Talking phenomenology on the phone

04:53:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11274 @ 0.00082046 = 9.2499 BTC [+] {2}

04:57:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.63979938 = 3.199 BTC [+] {3}

05:00:24 Namworld: Well well well, interesting stuff is coming up to the world of BTC assets

05:02:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.000138 = 0.552 BTC [+]

05:03:03 mircea_popescu: someone ipoing gbl ?

05:05:26 Diablo-D3: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg3551633#msg3551633

05:05:28 Diablo-D3: lol.

05:05:28 ozbot: [BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading

05:05:35 Diablo-D3: someone put that in the topic

05:05:35 Diablo-D3: lawlz

05:06:34 BingoBoingo: Buttfunder lolz, when does GarrX open?

05:06:56 Namworld: GBL?

05:07:04 Namworld: What the heck is that?

05:09:33 mod6: Namworld: http://www.geek.com/news/4-1-million-worth-of-bitcoins-goes-missing-as-chinese-exchange-gbl-disappears-1576967/

05:13:18 Namworld: ._.

05:13:19 Diablo-D3: ;;ticker

05:13:20 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 382.12307, Best ask: 386.35587, Bid-ask spread: 4.23280, Last trade: 382.12002, 24 hour volume: 20487.05087474, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 391.52574, 24 hour vwap: 380.64748

05:14:05 Namworld: Are every BTC businesses out there looking to scam?

05:15:34 BingoBoingo: Namworld: Best to assume probably?

05:17:30 Diablo-D3: Namworld: I dunno, you scammed me, and so did yochdog

05:17:31 Diablo-D3: :<

05:18:43 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: how many DMC shares for an AM share nao

05:19:19 Diablo-D3: 11:1.

05:19:26 Namworld: According to the way it was presented (group purchase), I'd say we were both scammed. But feel free to consider it otherwise.

05:19:39 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: problem is, only two people have enough shares to trade in

05:19:48 Diablo-D3: and they are MIA

05:20:06 Diablo-D3: Namworld: I was trolling, dont get panties in a twist

05:20:07 Namworld: I just need to find how to finance 10000 BTC now. Also, treatment for the septic shock BingoBoingo provoked.

05:20:20 Diablo-D3: Namworld: well, trolling about you, not about yochdog

05:20:28 Diablo-D3: he keeps saying hes going to pay out whats left and never does

05:20:53 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: I thought you were a market maker handling both sides and offering quotes

05:21:02 Namworld: I'd hope so about yochdog. But I don't see why people wouldn't be angry at me.

05:21:02 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: the company shut down.

05:21:56 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: the company couldnt meet its goals based on how little was invested, and paid back around 2x of what was originally paid in

05:22:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00081788 = 12.35 BTC [-]

05:23:00 kakobrekla: he is saying he paid out 2 btc per share which is prolly a dream

05:23:36 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: well, 2x. a lot of shares were never sold for 1 btc each.

05:24:14 kakobrekla: so 2x is based on the all time low of 0? i get it nao

05:24:32 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: hurr.

05:24:42 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Durr

05:25:02 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: I actually calculated roughly how much was put into DMC, we've paid back around 2x that

05:25:28 kakobrekla: yeah well i calculated you are full of shit

05:25:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00572997 = 0.4584 BTC [+]

05:25:47 Apocalyptic: heh

05:26:12 Diablo-D3: anyhow, theres 2789 shares left, and theres 2424 shares held by 3 guys who seem to have all quit bitcoin and I cant contact

05:26:14 Namworld: 2x is based on the amount of BTC he received, apparently

05:26:26 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: yet I made good on the investment either way.

05:26:37 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: its better than what everyone else did, ran with the money and never looked back

05:26:57 kakobrekla: not everyone did that.

05:27:14 Diablo-D3: pretty much everyone did

05:27:18 Diablo-D3: I cant think of anyone that didnt that isnt AM

05:28:20 Namworld: BTC-BOND

05:28:39 Diablo-D3: wasnt that yours?

05:28:49 Namworld: Yes

05:28:55 Namworld: It still exists

05:29:15 Namworld: Gigamining... well asking for docs, but everyone got paid their 5 mh/s for those who verified

05:29:37 Diablo-D3: yeah, giga was a scam

05:29:54 Diablo-D3: and because yours still exists means we cant verify if its a scam or not

05:30:29 Namworld: There might be a few more assets which I don't recall but kept paying

05:30:37 Apocalyptic: X-BOND too

05:30:44 Namworld: I'm strictly speaking of others than AM who didn't outright run.

05:30:55 Namworld: X-BOND is new, no?

05:31:44 Apocalyptic: not really, depends on your definition of new I guess

05:32:41 Namworld: Isn't it on Havelock? Few months old only.

05:32:46 Apocalyptic: 2013-08-02

05:32:47 Namworld: Was never on GLBSE to start with

05:32:53 Apocalyptic: you're right, somehow i thought it was way older

05:32:59 BingoBoingo: Wait, is Havelock still a thing?

05:33:02 Apocalyptic: sure

05:33:15 Namworld: Yes

05:33:16 Apocalyptic: they got acquired by some Panama fund

05:34:02 Namworld: I infer the owner acquired himself through a Panama registration

05:34:06 BingoBoingo: Isn't Panama just AMAZING country? I mean Noriega?

05:34:34 Namworld: Noriega?

05:34:44 BingoBoingo: Yeah, 1980's shit

05:35:13 Diablo-D3: heh

05:35:19 Diablo-D3: dont bother bringing up post-glbse assets

05:35:24 Diablo-D3: they arent old enough to have sprung the trap yet

05:35:27 BingoBoingo: I submit http://lifehacker.com/how-hard-is-it-to-switch-to-linux-1462916866 as anb example of how Gawker Media still sucks

05:35:45 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: we dont need proof of that

05:35:58 Diablo-D3: its already scientifically proven

05:36:14 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: You sounds rather ambiguous, please specify a message. This is IRC

05:37:26 BingoBoingo: Not on this chan to my knowledge

05:37:50 Diablo-D3: seriously, what are you trying to say?

05:39:01 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: I dunno, you are the one who pinted an ambiguous reply at me

05:39:11 Diablo-D3: it wasnt ambiguous

05:39:25 Diablo-D3: let me make it clearer

05:39:33 Diablo-D3: "gawker is cancer, dont post links to their blogs in here"

05:41:59 BingoBoingo: "BingoBoingo: we dont need proof of that" I will gawker is cancer. Just the formula writing with decent info here "http://gawker.com/after-30-years-of-silence-the-original-nsa-whistleblow-1454865018" compared to the absolute shit here "http://lifehacker.com/how-hard-is-it-to-switch-to-linux-1462916866" ought to make someone cry. Also I imagine Adrian Chen might have went Scheier.

05:50:00 BingoBoingo: I suppose it may be more feasible though that Nick Denton is a USG agent

05:54:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.63999983 = 3.84 BTC [+] {2}

05:55:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9210 @ 0.00081788 = 7.5327 BTC [-]

05:59:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.645 = 3.225 BTC [+]

06:06:26 mircea_popescu: is "gone scheier" now a thing ?

06:07:06 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't see why not.

06:07:19 mircea_popescu: scheier's list

06:07:56 BingoBoingo: Less naked jews than in the movie

06:08:20 mircea_popescu: there were naked jews in hte movie ?

06:08:45 mircea_popescu: incidentally, that'd be a good use of crowd sourcing : getting together the actors and the dough to film a proper re-enaction of nazi times.

06:09:04 mircea_popescu: NOT the porny "ss gangbang" nonsense, not the emasculated mainstream crap.

06:09:12 mircea_popescu: just nude naturalism.

06:09:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64999997 = 1.3 BTC [+]

06:13:04 BingoBoingo: How much do people want to guess that [deleted] in this post refers to DMSO?

06:13:09 BingoBoingo: http://highpowerrocketry.blogspot.com/2010/09/magic-bullets-and-other-cia-inventions.html

06:13:09 ozbot: High Power Rocketry: Inventing death: Interview with a (maybe) CIA weapons designer

06:13:55 mircea_popescu: doubt it tbh

06:14:31 mircea_popescu: what were they trying to do, ineffectually treat the victim's cancer ?

06:16:03 BingoBoingo: Well, DMSO is one of the best agents for carrying drugs of high molecular weight into the circulatory system through cutaneous contact. And if it fails to poison you will at least smell of cruciferous vegtables for a few days.

06:17:13 BingoBoingo: DMSO is some kind of magic, except for some protein drugs which it will unfold

06:17:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00082328 = 8.6033 BTC [+]

06:17:42 mircea_popescu: hm

06:18:17 BingoBoingo: Like most quack cancer drugs it is horribly incapable of doing anything on its own, but it is a potent carrier for other drugs. It is almost ubiquitous in creams and ointments.

06:20:48 BingoBoingo: DMSO is one of the few carriers that can allow an effective dose of insulin to travel transcutaneously

06:21:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.0008236 = 11.4892 BTC [+] {3}

06:27:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.64999997 = 2.6 BTC [+] {2}

06:33:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.26000402 BTC [-]

06:40:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 149 @ 0.00573051 = 0.8538 BTC [+] {3}

06:41:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.0058899 = 0.3004 BTC [+]

06:47:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0058899 = 0.2356 BTC [+]

06:48:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10712 @ 0.00082237 = 8.8092 BTC [-]

07:13:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0058899 = 0.1119 BTC [+]

07:27:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2000 @ 0.0010213 = 2.0426 BTC [-] {7}

07:28:44 BingoBoingo: .bait

07:28:46 ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lycy2dadWq1r5iisoo1_500.jpg

07:34:45 Diablo-D3: ;;ticker

07:34:46 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 385.42507, Best ask: 387.99988, Bid-ask spread: 2.57481, Last trade: 385.42507, 24 hour volume: 19335.13138564, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 391.52574, 24 hour vwap: 380.90682

07:34:50 Diablo-D3: ;;calc 385 * 340

07:34:51 gribble: 130900

07:35:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0058899 = 0.2003 BTC [+]

07:36:04 BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag

07:36:05 gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).

07:55:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.0058983 = 1.7695 BTC [+] {5}

07:58:22 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I think I found the problem with the SE/30. Wouldn't respond to strace so I turned it off, wouldn't turn on. Think I cooked it.

08:15:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 264 @ 0.00105699 = 0.279 BTC [+]

08:29:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.00081106 = 10.9088 BTC [-] {2}

09:08:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]

09:09:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64444444 BTC [+]

09:14:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 1225 @ 0.00022297 = 0.2731 BTC [-] {5}

09:23:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64999998 BTC [+]

09:24:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.65239998 = 1.9572 BTC [+] {2}

09:25:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.66743999 = 3.3372 BTC [+] {4}

09:27:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.67866248 = 24.4318 BTC [+] {7}

09:28:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.67999999 BTC [+]

09:29:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.0059 = 0.1888 BTC [+]

09:50:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 120 @ 0.00239398 = 0.2873 BTC [+] {2}

10:14:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.0059 = 0.2714 BTC [+]

10:17:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00081545 = 12.0687 BTC [+]

10:25:04 jurov: lol that irc misuse article.. mircea_popescu: that canuckgal msgd me after, we chatted a bit and then asked me to install some messaging app to my phone

10:25:30 jurov: since such cases ended up in past by me getting lighter by some coins

10:25:39 jurov: i promply declined

10:26:09 jurov: not heard from her since

10:27:08 jurov: so for some of us it's not just wanting to be witty, but also experience

10:30:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00102114 = 0.2042 BTC [-] {3}

10:31:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.002394 = 0.1197 BTC [+]

10:32:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.002394 = 0.1197 BTC [+]

10:32:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6488 @ 0.00081685 = 5.2997 BTC [+]

10:34:10 jurov: i wouldn't dare to send my irc-innocent business contacts here

10:39:40 BingoBoingo: I try to send them to -otc

10:44:51 jurov: ;;bc,stats

10:44:54 gribble: Current Blocks: 269389 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 754 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 21 hours, 16 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 588811380.291 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.24312

10:45:14 Diablo-D3: ;;ticker

10:45:14 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 394.3, Best ask: 394.99369, Bid-ask spread: 0.69369, Last trade: 394.3, 24 hour volume: 20407.53185335, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 394.9987, 24 hour vwap: 382.2301

10:45:22 Diablo-D3: maybe we'll plow through 400 this time

10:45:56 BingoBoingo: I hope not, fucking gem chasers...

10:47:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6856 @ 0.00082218 = 5.6369 BTC [+]

10:47:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 54 @ 0.0059 = 0.3186 BTC [-]

11:04:22 BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag

11:04:23 gribble: MtGox lag is 1.076301 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00215689515313 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).

11:06:17 TradeFortress: I especially love their 64 (?) core servers when the deadlock is probably db locking.

11:09:44 BingoBoingo: What does the fox say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk1mAd77Hr4

11:11:48 truffles: that song !

11:18:14 Diablo-D3: ;;ticker

11:18:15 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 391.7551, Best ask: 394.998, Bid-ask spread: 3.24290, Last trade: 394.998, 24 hour volume: 20295.02630986, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 394.9987, 24 hour vwap: 382.26485

11:19:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 2100 @ 0.0059497 = 12.4944 BTC [+] {5}

11:21:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.63 = 3.78 BTC [-] {2}

11:28:12 ThickAsThieves: lol random TF appearance

11:28:23 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

11:28:23 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 397.0, Best ask: 398.9836, Bid-ask spread: 1.98360, Last trade: 399.0, 24 hour volume: 22457.30797161, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 400.0, 24 hour vwap: 383.82719

11:28:32 ThickAsThieves: booya


11:29:27 truffles: lol

11:29:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3167 @ 0.000138 = 0.437 BTC [+]

11:29:36 jurov: *water changes into plasma

11:29:39 truffles: donate it to the penis museum

11:29:41 jurov: and starts fusion

11:29:45 BingoBoingo: Lol plasma

11:29:48 Diablo-D3: truffles: naw, I prefer to donate it to your mom

11:29:49 Diablo-D3: dohohohohoho

11:29:52 mircea_popescu: wait wut ?

11:29:57 truffles: : (

11:30:08 Diablo-D3: you walked right into that one, bro

11:30:16 truffles: tarps

11:30:17 BingoBoingo: If only Garr255 defenders like Thermos poured plasma on their dicks

11:30:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 900 @ 0.00013895 = 0.1251 BTC [+] {2}

11:54:05 mircea_popescu: approval of congress 9%, below root canals,cockroachs and traffic jams

11:54:14 mircea_popescu: this is like... first time it goes single digit iirc.

11:54:34 Diablo-D3: does mircea_popescu still have me on ignore?

11:55:18 truffles: u2 haha

11:55:51 truffles: will there be a point where half the room will be?

11:56:38 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Of coarse sand paper he does

12:03:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00595 = 0.1488 BTC [+]

12:27:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [+]

12:27:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 106 @ 0.00597593 = 0.6334 BTC [+] {3}

12:32:21 ThickAsThieves: I hate getting payments and not knowing what/who they are

12:34:50 BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: IF you hate that I can give you some protein of unambiguous origin...

12:37:17 mircea_popescu: use the mpex solution.

12:37:56 Diablo-D3: truffles: he doesnt like the truth

12:39:45 truffles: ya

12:40:01 truffles: it works for him in his bubble though

12:40:08 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Is this truth paleo?

12:40:38 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: yes, mircea_popescu refuses to stop being a fatass and become a manly man

12:40:51 truffles: he's skinny though

12:42:19 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: By all measure mircea is skinny bordering on malnourished if it wasn't for the protein his dick absorbs through the harem's pussy's

12:42:50 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: When though is the last time you just said fuck it and smoked some meth?

12:42:50 ThickAsThieves: kinda gross

12:42:52 truffles: very graphic there

12:43:17 mircea_popescu: da fuck dick doesn't absorb protein

12:43:30 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: hes skinny? thats not the photo I Saw.

12:43:30 Diablo-D3: and no, I dont do drugs

12:43:32 Diablo-D3: drugs arent paleo

12:43:41 mircea_popescu: and i just had a pound-an'-a-half steak of tuna

12:43:44 mircea_popescu: (the fish)

12:43:47 BingoBoingo: Fuck no meth is totally paleo

12:43:53 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: but what hare? hes a virgin

12:44:00 truffles: maybe he has a penis like Cell from dragon ball z : D

12:44:01 Diablo-D3: er, harem

12:44:23 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Hare is totally delicious, and paleo, especially fried in peanut oil

12:44:53 Diablo-D3: peanut oil isnt paleo =P

12:44:57 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

12:44:58 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 397.10002, Best ask: 400.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.89998, Last trade: 400.0, 24 hour volume: 21343.23200807, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 400.0, 24 hour vwap: 384.87918

12:45:00 ThickAsThieves: ;;nethash

12:45:01 gribble: 4939458.24539

12:45:03 ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats

12:45:06 ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate

12:45:06 gribble: Current Blocks: 269407 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 736 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 22 hours, 27 minutes, and 35 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 589708219.573 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.41865

12:45:07 gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 589708219.573 based on data since last change | 690023816.456 based on data for last three days

12:45:14 ThickAsThieves: yum

12:45:25 Diablo-D3: truffles: believe it or not, toryiama is NOT the most peverted magnaka

12:45:35 mircea_popescu: fun fact : if all you eat meatwise is hare, you become fat starved and die a horrible death.

12:46:04 truffles: facts..

12:46:30 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: So if I grab a squirrel with my caveman hands, break its neck, and just start fucking eating it... SOmehow in your Wu-Tang temple that won't be paleo?

12:47:14 ThickAsThieves: sigh

12:47:19 ThickAsThieves: more paleo ranting

12:47:25 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I have yet to butcher an actually lean rabbit

12:47:49 truffles: is rabbit tastey?

12:47:51 BingoBoingo: Everyone of thos I have met has been a fat bastard

12:47:58 BingoBoingo: truffles: Very much so

12:48:02 mircea_popescu: yes, but it's not complete fat or something

12:48:09 mircea_popescu: i vaguely remember wtf this was about.

12:48:18 BingoBoingo: Fuck it I'm going in the yard with a hammer

12:48:19 ThickAsThieves: so eat rabbits and avocados

12:49:04 mircea_popescu: fun fact : some dork on wikipedia filmed himself jackiong off for science. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejaculation

12:49:33 Diablo-D3: [07:46:34] <BingoBoingo> Diablo-D3: So if I grab a squirrel with my caveman hands, break its neck, and just start fucking eating it... SOmehow in your Wu-Tang temple that won't be paleo?

12:49:38 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: no, thats totally paleo

12:51:14 truffles: i rly dont get how vegans/vegetarians can be fat

12:51:23 BingoBoingo: So... Cats, paleo?

12:52:31 ThickAsThieves: vegans that work on computers and hobby on computers

12:52:34 ThickAsThieves: simple as that

12:54:25 Diablo-D3: truffles: its because they eat grains

12:54:26 Diablo-D3: which make you fat

12:54:29 BingoBoingo: I am reserving picture lest the internet hate me, because this cat has socks

12:55:13 truffles: i know i could shed some lbs by giving up bread

12:56:15 Diablo-D3: truffles: grains means not just bread

12:56:30 truffles: ya but thats what i eat almost daily

12:56:47 Diablo-D3: but pasta, almost any alcohol, corn, soy

12:56:53 Diablo-D3: no seed oils either

12:57:04 truffles: gotta give up the bread for the alcohol

12:57:04 ThickAsThieves: tell me more, i want to hear everything there is to know about paleo, twice

12:57:23 Diablo-D3: if its not olive oil or coconut oil, you shouldnt be using it

12:57:30 truffles: pfff

12:57:33 truffles: its all oil to me

12:57:42 Diablo-D3: truffles: alcohol isnt paleo either, but if you're going to get drunk, at least do it on wine

12:57:46 truffles: also doesnt olive oil burn faster

12:57:55 Diablo-D3: no peanut oil either, peanuts are a legume, and legumes are your doom.

12:57:59 truffles: WINE???

12:58:11 Diablo-D3: olive oil doesnt burn faster, it just has a lower smoke point

12:58:41 ThickAsThieves: uhh

12:58:47 ThickAsThieves: the smoke is not the start of the burning

12:58:49 ThickAsThieves: ?

12:58:56 Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: he said faster

12:59:01 Diablo-D3: its not a fuel in a car.

12:59:01 ThickAsThieves: right

12:59:12 ThickAsThieves: he meant burns at a lower temp

12:59:17 Diablo-D3: then yes, it does

12:59:23 Diablo-D3: but you shouldnt be reaching insane temps either

12:59:26 Diablo-D3: you're not deep frying shit

12:59:35 Diablo-D3: you can use it in a frying pan and in the oven fine

12:59:36 BingoBoingo: So I have 4 lbs of morel mushrooms, I want a second mac se/30 start bidding before I eat them

12:59:39 truffles: i do experiment

12:59:42 truffles: so ..

12:59:42 ThickAsThieves: no fried chicken for paleos?

12:59:56 Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: I have seen faleo fried chickens

13:00:00 Diablo-D3: I have not attempted them

13:00:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.68415200 BTC to 1`368`304 shares, 50 satoshi per share

13:00:04 Diablo-D3: er, faileo

13:00:11 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo make them into shrimp &pasta with white sauce

13:00:24 mircea_popescu: i just did a set of boletus few datys ago it was wunderbar

13:00:30 Diablo-D3: faileo == paleo attempt at non-paleo food, almost always fails horribly and you will be ashamed of yourself for trying

13:00:38 Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: theres lots of paleo chicken dishes

13:00:46 ThickAsThieves: i'm so interested

13:00:50 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Morels? I'm thinking browned in a bit of butter.

13:00:58 mircea_popescu: sorry ThickAsThieves !

13:00:58 truffles: i am, link?

13:01:08 ThickAsThieves: mp, was talking to diablo :)

13:01:11 truffles: maybe i can make something tastey today

13:01:20 mircea_popescu: o. well ok, then bear with me here.

13:01:26 Diablo-D3: truffles: what are you looking for exactly?

13:01:43 truffles: dunno, tastey dish?

13:01:48 Diablo-D3: hrm

13:01:56 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what i did was, melt homemade butter (it really kicks ass this thing), very lightly fry mushrooms-garlic-shrimp

13:02:23 mircea_popescu: then fish it all out, add flour, then add milk to make the sauce. then dump the pasta (which had been cooking all through) and the fished out material and serve.

13:02:30 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Morels might be the only distinctly 'mrican dish you are close to it nao.

13:02:33 Diablo-D3: oh dear god what mircea_popescu is describing ..... goddamnit mircea_popescu

13:02:47 Diablo-D3: he ruined it

13:02:48 truffles: sounds buttery

13:02:52 BingoBoingo: Morels just a bit fried, so delish

13:03:05 Diablo-D3: he went from paleo to flour in 3 seconds

13:03:05 Diablo-D3: truffles: http://nomnompaleo.com/post/3195098303/asian-cauliflower-fried-rice

13:03:05 Diablo-D3: truffles: Ive been wanting to try that

13:03:08 mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Boletus_edulis_(Tillegem).jpg

13:03:16 mircea_popescu: this is the boletus. morels work just as well - perhaps better.

13:03:40 mircea_popescu: also, the morel is a french mushroom not merican :D

13:03:42 truffles: uh my partner wont eat that lol

13:03:52 truffles: id try anything though

13:03:58 Diablo-D3: truffles is gay?:

13:04:23 truffles: happy?

13:04:25 ThickAsThieves: he would do anything for love, but he wont do that

13:04:32 BingoBoingo: Morels grown best on our degenerate possums though https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morel Indescribably delish

13:04:50 Diablo-D3: morels ARE good btw

13:05:05 ThickAsThieves: never had one

13:05:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7806 @ 0.00082218 = 6.4179 BTC [+]

13:05:16 ThickAsThieves: not a huge mushroom fan

13:05:19 ThickAsThieves: some or okay

13:05:21 ThickAsThieves: are

13:06:04 truffles: Diablo-D3 i was expecting few ingredients

13:06:20 Diablo-D3: truffles: hrm, lemme think

13:06:28 BingoBoingo: Proper morels, the kind the french pay for grow in the carolinas

13:07:30 Diablo-D3: http://www.ibreatheimhungry.com/2013/01/easy-paleo-pot-roast-whole-30-compliant.html

13:07:32 Diablo-D3: truffles: what about that? its a classic

13:08:02 truffles: sure

13:08:08 truffles: dont have pressure pot yet

13:08:36 Diablo-D3: a crock pot, its not a pressure cooker =P

13:08:46 Diablo-D3: you should get one, they're indespensible

13:09:06 truffles: if there were more ppl sure

13:09:15 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: The only difference between those instruments is the time they require.

13:09:33 Diablo-D3: truffles: its just me by myself, and I have one

13:09:56 truffles: i think id be eating most of it myself anyways

13:10:50 Diablo-D3: a 4-5 pound pot roast lasts me like 3-4 days

13:11:23 truffles: not a fan of eating same things back to back so..

13:13:17 truffles: what is that yellow thing in the dish?

13:14:57 truffles: rutabaga?

13:22:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1688 @ 0.00102208 = 1.7253 BTC [-] {6}

13:23:29 BingoBoingo: So... some dude thought the Mt. Gox leak was something more recent https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=331426.0

13:30:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00081814 = 12.1903 BTC [-]

13:31:24 BingoBoingo: MY love for you is ticking clock bezerker...

13:37:04 BingoBoingo: ;;ident lurkwingduck

13:37:04 gribble: Nick 'lurkwingduck', with hostmask 'lurkwingduck!d8c3a6b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is not identified.

13:37:33 mircea_popescu: http://rapsinews.com/judicial_news/20131113/269638203.html

13:37:35 ozbot: Russian lawmakers submit bill restricting ownership of US dollars | Russian Legal Information Agency

13:37:47 mircea_popescu: tl;dr : us dollars illegal investment scam in russia.

13:38:02 mircea_popescu: (this is the country where pyramid schemes are still legal, provided they advertise as such)

13:38:32 BingoBoingo: In what country would Garr255's shill bidding be legal though?

13:38:49 lurkwingduck: Strange, so I could say hey I've got this great pyramid if you join now you could make bank. And it's all good?

13:39:59 mircea_popescu: lurkwingduck yeah.

13:40:06 BingoBoingo: lurkwingduck: All depends on where you are

13:40:30 BingoBoingo: In BTC the only civil case so far is in Texas

13:41:46 lurkwingduck: BingoBoingo: That was a result of theft though right not just because it was BTC.

13:41:54 mircea_popescu: yeah.

13:42:36 BingoBoingo: lurkwingduck mircea_popescu wELL, ALSO tEXAS.

13:43:23 BingoBoingo: Fuck Texas

13:44:13 BingoBoingo: Pirateat40 gets criminal charges for roughing up the grandma and merely a civil summons for the Ponzi?

13:44:45 BingoBoingo: GigaVPS might not be mentioned in court before the first is addressed!

13:49:42 lurkwingduck: Huh, I guess there was more going on with him than I was aware.

13:50:10 BingoBoingo: lurkwingduck: With GigaVPS, he has always been scamzorz

13:50:20 BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag

13:50:22 gribble: MtGox lag is 0.377334 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000756173111158 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).

13:53:28 Guest97286: ;;ticker

13:53:28 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 408.99999, Best ask: 409.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.38001, Last trade: 408.99999, 24 hour volume: 24740.99145857, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 409.5, 24 hour vwap: 387.66306

13:55:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.66609888 = 5.9949 BTC [+] {3}

13:56:18 random_cat: merely civil, eh?

13:56:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6699 BTC [+]

13:58:32 random_cat: let me suggest that if the SEC is gunning for you it doesn't feel very civil. it's only civil like "civil war"

13:59:52 mircea_popescu: depends who has the larger guns.

14:02:17 random_cat: yeah... i think pirateat40's got the 6 pounders

14:03:55 mircea_popescu: i dunno you can find 6 pound peas...

14:04:02 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

14:04:03 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 409.99976, Best ask: 410.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.00024, Last trade: 409.99976, 24 hour volume: 25263.51208487, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 410.0, 24 hour vwap: 388.27762

14:08:34 pankkake: :o

14:08:47 ThickAsThieves: still going

14:08:50 ThickAsThieves: 413

14:09:09 mircea_popescu: jurov: i wouldn't dare to send my irc-innocent business contacts here << let 'em learn.

14:11:06 ThickAsThieves: http://bitbet.us/bet/357/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-500-by-the/

14:11:08 ozbot: BitBet - Bitcoin price to rise above $500 by the end of 2013

14:12:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.66989999 BTC [-]

14:12:46 mircea_popescu: looks quite feasible huh

14:13:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 84 @ 0.00570127 = 0.4789 BTC [-] {4}

14:13:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3733 @ 0.000138 = 0.5152 BTC [-]

14:13:36 BingoBoingo: http://bitbet.us/bet/600/tradefortress-arrested/ is a bet

14:13:40 ozbot: BitBet - TradeFortress arrested

14:14:07 mircea_popescu: " it could lead to a doubling of the number of Americans taking cholesterol-lowering statin drugs from 36 million to 72 million?about 30 percent of US adults. "

14:14:18 mircea_popescu: dude why even bother with it. just make the megapill and feed it to everyone.

14:14:45 pankkake: source?

14:14:59 Diablo-D3: statins are extremely dangerous anyhow

14:15:02 Diablo-D3: ;;ticker

14:15:02 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 418.0, Best ask: 419.5, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 419.5, 24 hour volume: 26237.68214783, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 419.0, 24 hour vwap: 389.89894

14:15:07 Diablo-D3: GO GO GO

14:15:16 pankkake: yes. I won't go into yet another paleo rant, but… :)

14:15:17 mircea_popescu: http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/blogs/daily-dose/2013/11/12/new-cholesterol-treatment-guidelines-could-double-number-americans-taking-statins/wd2PPKWS21BHyzrt1eLIKO/blog.html?rss_id=Top+Stories

14:15:18 ozbot: New cholesterol treatment guidelines could double number of Americans taking statins - Health - Bost

14:15:24 Guest97286: ;;asks 500

14:15:24 gribble: There are currently 4805.8338 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 2156358.69952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 225.6673 seconds

14:15:32 pankkake: oh. well the real treatment is to stop eating shit

14:16:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 77 @ 0.0459896 = 3.5412 BTC [+] {3}

14:16:18 BingoBoingo: I like how the other half of those guidelines are stop taking statins if you aren't a fat fuck

14:16:28 mircea_popescu: yeah.

14:16:38 Diablo-D3: pankkake: where shit is grains

14:16:43 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: well

14:16:59 Diablo-D3: there are many skinny people with fubar cholesterol

14:17:02 Diablo-D3: its because they eat grains

14:17:16 Diablo-D3: quit eating grains, fixes cholestrol like fucking magic

14:17:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.289 = 0.578 BTC [+]

14:17:36 lurkwingduck: Does that include beer? ;)

14:17:52 firedrops: yup. but not scotch.

14:18:08 Diablo-D3: no beer OR scotch

14:18:13 pankkake: in theory yes

14:18:29 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Don't you try to take my scotch you fucking bitch

14:18:38 firedrops: distilling removes all the grain shittles, no?

14:18:39 pankkake: but you don't have to be 100% healthy

14:18:40 Diablo-D3: pankkake: I dunno man, january 1st of this year, when I started THE PALEO I weighed 340.

14:18:44 Diablo-D3: firedrops: nope.

14:18:51 Diablo-D3: pankkake: I now weigh 226.

14:18:54 firedrops: i'm can't have gluten, but I can drink scotch.

14:18:57 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: I will fuck your shit up you fucking cock suck

14:19:03 pankkake: no my point is that there are worse shit

14:19:09 firedrops: like shit

14:19:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6668 = 2.6672 BTC [-]

14:19:21 Diablo-D3: firedrops: gluten isnt the only toxic chemical found in grains

14:19:24 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you're probably having too much scotch

14:19:26 mircea_popescu: share moar.

14:19:27 Diablo-D3: pankkake: yes, there is worse shit

14:19:29 lurkwingduck: Well as a brewer, I won't be giving up beer haha

14:19:41 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of chemical oddities, DMSO was the correct answer.

14:19:43 mircea_popescu: lol @firedrops

14:19:47 Diablo-D3: lurkwingduck: honestly, if I knew what I was manufacturing killed people, I'd quit.

14:20:05 lurkwingduck: I'm not commercial

14:20:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, seriously ?!

14:20:09 firedrops: ouch

14:20:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.0023925 = 0.3589 BTC [-] {2}

14:20:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00105692 = 1.0569 BTC [+] {7}

14:20:27 Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: what was the question/

14:20:28 asciilifeform: had it in my lab, does exactly as described

14:20:38 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I didn't take 7 years of pharm school credits for no reason.

14:20:52 mircea_popescu: so why would anyone put dmso in bullets ?

14:20:53 asciilifeform: we had a beautifully-educational incident with DMSO

14:21:00 mircea_popescu: or did i do a crapass job of skimming that ?

14:21:02 BingoBoingo: (+/-3 years for self denial)

14:21:25 Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: DMSO is on my list of shit I dont fuck with.

14:21:34 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: DMSO doesn't need anything as crass as bullets

14:21:38 asciilifeform: lab girl had round-the-clock headaches for six months. went to every conceivable doctor, brain scans, the whole shebang.

14:21:45 asciilifeform: nobody found anything

14:21:55 Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: DMSO container leaking?

14:22:00 asciilifeform: finally i notice she's wearing latex gloves.

14:22:04 asciilifeform: porous.

14:22:25 Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: wtf ARE the gloves of bunny suits made of?

14:22:27 BingoBoingo: I doubt it was the DMSO itself, what was the solute in the DMSO

14:22:28 asciilifeform: we had candidate compounds (pharma dev) dissolved in, guess what.

14:22:46 mircea_popescu: that chick owes you.

14:23:11 asciilifeform: probably would've noticed eventually

14:23:25 BingoBoingo: I bet the real villians were the candidate compounds.

14:23:33 mircea_popescu: well sure. probably the fed will notice qe does nothing eventually.

14:23:36 asciilifeform: without doubt

14:23:41 asciilifeform: DMSO per se is harmless.

14:24:08 asciilifeform: (in anything like a realistic absorbed dose)

14:24:48 BingoBoingo: DMSO is harmles except is it the only vehicle that may carry high molecular weight drugs through the skin without risking unfolded proteins.

14:24:58 asciilifeform: right

14:25:20 Diablo-D3: so, you know what the most disturbing commercial Ive seen for awhile is?

14:25:45 BingoBoingo: I bet id Diablo-D3 show up he is going to try to turn this into some cargo sult bullshit

14:25:50 Diablo-D3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsJiGF_Groo

14:25:50 ozbot: 2014 Kia Soul Hamster Commercial (Lady Gaga "Applause" Official Song) - YouTube

14:26:14 Diablo-D3: a commercial who's sole goal is to turn hampsters sexy.

14:26:19 ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 750

14:26:22 gribble: There are currently 7485.7343 bitcoins offered at or under 750.0 USD, worth 3587925.53179 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds

14:26:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00599992 = 0.498 BTC [+] {4}

14:26:35 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Are fur fags allowed in -assets?

14:26:42 asciilifeform: (re: bullet: DMSO+payload would only make sense for an exceedingly small bullet. like the kind that killed georgi markov.)

14:26:45 BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag

14:26:46 pankkake: only if they're BitFurries

14:26:46 gribble: MtGox lag is 0.466152 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000934163388702 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).

14:27:02 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: we burn them on sight.

14:27:07 Diablo-D3: them and the bronies

14:27:07 BingoBoingo: I miss february goxlag

14:27:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn;t that an umbrella pellet ?

14:27:39 Diablo-D3: I need to sell shirts

14:27:43 asciilifeform: right

14:27:44 Diablo-D3: white text on black

14:27:46 Diablo-D3: "got goxlag?"

14:28:03 firedrops: nice

14:28:24 BingoBoingo: The most disappointing part of Breaking Bad for me was all the attempts at oral Ricin poisoning. Shit doesn't work.

14:28:24 firedrops: you could outsource to nubbins

14:28:50 pankkake: goxse.cx is free. hmmm

14:29:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no dmso involved there, it broke the skin

14:29:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0023925 = 0.1196 BTC [-]

14:29:50 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo especially when so many other things do work. cut a bunch of oleander, keep it in the house a coupla days, drink the water.

14:30:10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notice that animal venoms are typically liquid. you need the solvent, or it won't necessarily circulate.

14:31:14 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You just need a poison with a lower molecular weight

14:31:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0023925 = 0.2393 BTC [-]

14:31:46 BingoBoingo: And Breaking bad offered that early with Hydrogen flouride

14:32:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: special-ops folks are rather fond of poisons from the animal kingdom, e.g. shellfish. 'plausible deniability', 'poor sod ate bad seafood'.

14:33:21 pankkake: wouldn't work on me, it's known I hate seafood

14:33:33 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I wouldn't know. I have cousins in the marines though and they love their nitrogen compounds.

14:33:56 Diablo-D3: seriously though

14:34:02 Diablo-D3: I youtube-dl'ed that commercial

14:34:06 Diablo-D3: and have been slowmoing it

14:34:14 Diablo-D3: its just wtf every square fucking inch of it

14:36:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0010201 = 0.102 BTC [-]

14:36:51 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Dredd is another great movie, worth the time

14:37:03 Diablo-D3: the new one?

14:37:16 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: "Eat recycled food! It's good for the environment, and OK for you!"

14:37:23 BingoBoingo: Yes, with Karl Urban

14:38:06 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: its already on my netflix queue

14:38:18 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: i Figure that is what ny shit is anyways

14:38:36 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Then watch it you ignored fuck

14:40:40 BingoBoingo: Karl Urban strikes me as more the dom than that fag playing the new kirk. Karl Urban seems to know how to choke a bitch David Freese style.

14:42:49 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: its at the END of my queue

14:42:58 Diablo-D3: Ill get there

14:43:26 BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: It is a great movie on par with 8and1/2 watch it nao

14:44:42 Diablo-D3: BingoBoingo: on par with what?

14:44:54 asciilifeform: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24927078

14:44:55 ozbot: BBC News - MI6 spy Gareth Williams death 'probably an accident', police say

14:44:59 BingoBoingo: 8and1/2 th fellini film

14:45:09 Diablo-D3: oh, eight and a half

14:45:11 Diablo-D3: never seen it

14:45:28 Diablo-D3: btw, I might as well tell you breaking bad and the waling dead are ahead in the queue

14:45:31 BingoBoingo: Savage, no wonder you are paleo Diablo-D3

14:45:34 Diablo-D3: I WILL have to get to them someday

14:47:15 BingoBoingo: Maybe this counts as self soxing, but this is what I actually look like http://imgur.com/FaA1YKl

14:47:57 mircea_popescu: lol @dogpose

14:47:58 Diablo-D3: bald men shall not take selfies.

14:48:08 BingoBoingo: And yes... I am shopping for a Mid 70's RV to be my crystal ship

14:48:40 BingoBoingo: I am also shopping for a new Mac SE/30 if anyone has one.

14:48:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform totally. people accidentally die inside bags all the time

14:49:09 BingoBoingo: I tried n -otc but the last person there said there's had 6 GB of RAM

14:49:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: classic. "shot himself in the head, three times."

14:49:26 Diablo-D3: autoerotic affixation

14:49:40 mircea_popescu: "the last one with a different weapon"

14:50:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what boggles my mind is why they had to make public fools of themselves by bringing it up again.

14:50:12 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I didn't get an Strace, fucker cooked itself and the monitor didn't know

14:50:48 Diablo-D3: http://imgur.com/gallery/yw4f1qu

14:50:48 ozbot: One Di-Shrek-tion - Imgur

14:50:50 Diablo-D3: I loled

14:51:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honor and a sense of ridicule are leftovers from a previous, less civilised time. they're obsolete nao like nationalism.

14:51:57 mircea_popescu: read your pravda comrade.

14:52:35 asciilifeform: "drunk wanders into a trolleybus, screams out 'i'm gonna walk all over yer heads!' bald man spits on his hand, rubs head, mumbles: 'may you slip!' " (soviet joke)

14:52:46 mircea_popescu: lol

14:53:43 BingoBoingo: Eh, I can understand the soldering Iron being a heavy. Waterboarding was something I did with the roomies in college for fun, at least for some of us.

14:54:39 firedrops: BingoBoingo: that's a bit fucked.

14:55:03 firedrops: either party obtaining pleasure from torture, that is.

14:55:09 BingoBoingo: firedrops: The thing is half of us are still really great friends.

14:55:25 firedrops: the other thing is that if you were doing it properly, it's totally fucked.

14:55:47 mircea_popescu: firedrops torture is great, what are you talking about.

14:56:01 firedrops: ah, leg pulling.

14:56:05 BingoBoingo: We all came into the experiment as college juniors pondering the ethics as torture, and decided empiricisms trupmed idealism.

14:56:30 BingoBoingo: So firedrops We waterboarded each other.

14:56:40 firedrops: pragmatism makes torture stupid.

14:56:46 mircea_popescu: how so ?

14:56:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00598999 = 0.2995 BTC [-]

14:57:40 BingoBoingo: William James bitch makes firedrops stupid by concusion... Also Warm water wash clothes with similarly wars water bottles worked best.

14:58:10 firedrops: if I were tortured, I would say anythign to stop it.

14:58:13 firedrops: how is that helpful?

14:58:23 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know i can tell when you've had your third drink because i stop being able to follow what you're saying.

14:58:29 firedrops: lol

14:58:42 asciilifeform: firedrops: have no doubt, rectothermal cryptoanalysis works.

14:58:46 mircea_popescu: firedrops torture as a mechanism to extract information is laughable.

14:58:49 BingoBoingo: We all limited ourselves to 16 oz of face dumping water though.

14:58:53 mircea_popescu: torture as a mechanism to have fun has its merits.

14:59:26 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Third drink happened roughly 8 hours ago

14:59:43 mircea_popescu: well then whatever, 5th, 95th

15:00:46 Diablo-D3: http://i.imgur.com/ejI83wV.gif

15:00:48 Diablo-D3: this feel, I know it

15:00:50 BingoBoingo: I might admit there is a point where I stop making sense, usually it seems to be around drink 9th-14th

15:01:29 mircea_popescu: for my own peace of mind, put this in plain english : "William James bitch makes firedrops stupid by concusion... Also Warm water wash clothes with similarly wars water bottles worked best."

15:01:37 firedrops: shitlol

15:01:48 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sounds right

15:02:02 firedrops: yes, but, meaning? is it a lable in your coat?

15:02:03 BingoBoingo: You forget the straps though

15:02:09 mircea_popescu: well no. it's not even gramatically correct!

15:02:37 BingoBoingo: Probably

15:03:00 BingoBoingo: OK, I'm stupid drunk

15:03:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.0010201 = 0.102 BTC [-]

15:03:35 asciilifeform: wonder if this explains the demise of the SE/30

15:03:50 lurkwingduck: The part before the ellipsis seems to be making fun of a statement you made about torture being stupid, the rest talks of how the water boarding was conducted.

15:03:52 firedrops: cheers, BingoBoingo

15:04:04 BingoBoingo: At least I don't have a 13 y/old patching my web wallet al la Trade Fortress

15:04:34 firedrops: I still think the second part is washing instructions for his underthings.

15:04:38 mircea_popescu: lurkwingduck Also (Warm water wash clothes with similarly wars water bottles) worked best. is the best i can get

15:04:40 lurkwingduck: And there are a few typos ;)

15:05:05 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Probably why I can't find anyone to sell me a ColdFire board yes

15:05:54 davout: ;;seen pankkake

15:05:54 gribble: pankkake was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 32 minutes and 32 seconds ago: <pankkake> wouldn't work on me, it's known I hate seafood

15:09:49 jurov: ;;bc,convert eur

15:09:50 gribble: 1 BTC = 421.21207 USD = 314.22420422 eur

15:10:06 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

15:10:06 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 420.2, Best ask: 421.21207, Bid-ask spread: 1.01207, Last trade: 421.21207, 24 hour volume: 27871.63267177, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 421.21207, 24 hour vwap: 392.09182

15:10:28 ThickAsThieves: smoke one for 420!

15:11:24 BingoBoingo: TAT Whatchu rolling. I'm killing me a pikachu for this blunt

15:11:55 ThickAsThieves: I would never do drugs.

15:13:43 benkay: mkay

15:14:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 284 @ 0.00102 = 0.2897 BTC [-]

15:15:05 benkay: software development: http://oglaf.com/obituator/

15:15:15 BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Let me turn my brain damaged ways against assumptions though.... I imagine Cognitive will lead to a scammzor tag on garr255, because of failure to deliver chips even though he swears niggers...

15:16:22 BingoBoingo: I also Imagine a Thermos

15:17:02 BingoBoingo: a Thermos capable of solving all petty problems

15:17:03 firedrops: should he be swearing more or less niggers to deliver on time?

15:17:17 BingoBoingo: firedrops: It is BFL

15:17:31 firedrops: so more.

15:17:34 BingoBoingo: Nothing is on time, especially for a friend of thermos

15:17:50 BingoBoingo: No need to be on time

15:17:50 thestringpuller: oh noe bitcoinity is slow

15:18:02 firedrops: yes but your liquids are always the right temperature.

15:18:17 firedrops: doesn't that count for anything?!?!

15:18:18 BingoBoingo: My melanin doesn't feel right.

15:18:57 thestringpuller: but your puts

15:19:00 thestringpuller: buy*

15:19:04 BingoBoingo: Bitcoinity feel to chill and I ain't fucking Bitcoinity like honeybunny

15:19:40 BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: At the moment I am only trading S.NSA

15:21:03 benkay: "trading"

15:21:21 benkay: like 5 trades the past week on that one

15:21:50 BingoBoingo: benkay: FOr some definitions of trading, yes

15:22:11 BingoBoingo: And not necessarilyt good ones

15:25:14 benkay: i'm waiting for the hacker news pop

15:25:26 benkay: i can't wait to see the hacker news threads on mpex and snsa

15:26:08 thestringpuller: ;;calc 39 + 21

15:26:08 gribble: 60

15:26:36 thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles

15:26:36 gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 15 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <smickles> $avg

15:28:16 BingoBoingo: Eh, if S.NSA can get a fraction of the news Inputs.io did

15:29:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 3000 @ 0.000234 = 0.702 BTC [+]

15:41:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 900 @ 0.000234 = 0.2106 BTC [+]

15:43:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.005702 = 0.2452 BTC [-]

15:47:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.62500555 = 11.2501 BTC [-] {3}

15:48:44 BingoBoingo: Adrian chen must be a spook though because http://gawker.com/a-discussion-with-cryptome-514154708 how can't that fucker be

15:48:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.611 = 4.277 BTC [-]

15:49:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 88 @ 0.00574 = 0.5051 BTC [+]

15:51:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 215 @ 0.00102 = 0.2193 BTC [-]

15:55:35 mircea_popescu: Young: Well, we would have dumped it, the whole thing. Everyone else likes to play this game: "What if we harm somebody" or all this kind of crap. Which is strictly cowardice. Of course the companies who run the outlets, their lawyers won't let them do this kind of thing, so if you've got money invested in your operation you won't take these kind of risks.

15:55:51 mircea_popescu: a good reminder that lawyers' oppinions on stuff aren't the be all end all criterion.

15:55:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 750 @ 0.00013898 = 0.1042 BTC [+]

15:56:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17444 @ 0.00081819 = 14.2725 BTC [+] {2}

15:58:04 benkay: mircea_popescu: did you ever hear back from cryptome?

15:59:34 mircea_popescu: benkay hear back as to what ?

16:00:49 benkay: le cardano

16:01:08 mircea_popescu: ;;google site:cryptome.org cardano

16:01:09 gribble: Bitcoin corp, USB stick GPG product - Cryptome: http://cryptome.org/2013/10/bitcoin-usb-gpg.htm

16:01:34 kleeck: .d

16:01:34 ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 710 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.4827% in 4d 3h 56m 10s

16:01:39 mircea_popescu: re BingoBoingo's press : we get press, it's just we get it on the cool venues.

16:01:54 benkay: ofc

16:02:23 benkay: oh, i see. that's the extent of the cryptome feedback. they're soliciting input from their readers.

16:02:24 benkay: derp.

16:02:46 mircea_popescu: what did you expect them to say, "mp is asshoal!!!" ?

16:03:24 truffles: yes

16:05:24 kakobrekla: morning

16:05:28 kakobrekla: who raised the price again

16:05:32 kakobrekla: this is worse than fed money

16:06:18 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla there was a lot of drama and more lulz

16:06:19 mircea_popescu: price goes up

16:06:32 kakobrekla: was teh drama

16:06:34 kakobrekla: ?

16:07:32 kakobrekla: btw those chinese exchange scam news are confirmed?

16:07:41 mircea_popescu: yup

16:07:51 kakobrekla: ah.

16:09:33 asciilifeform: for cardano fans: rng to be tested this week.

16:10:31 mircea_popescu: exact testing process which i'm contractually required to not disclose involves a hitachi wand and some ladies.

16:11:57 firedrops: software testing, yum.

16:12:13 asciilifeform: firedrops: hardware.

16:12:17 firedrops: i realized

16:16:52 mike_c: still looking good for xmas availability? my wife is dying for one.

16:17:34 firedrops: aren't we all.

16:17:40 ThickAsThieves: MPEx account is $12,000 , what a scam

16:18:14 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves at the rate the us economy is going, an apple will be a scam in dollars soon enough.

16:18:17 benkay: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-12/miner-to-pay-in-bitcoins-for-work-at-tungsten-project.html

16:18:18 ozbot: Miner to Pay in Bitcoins for Work at Tungsten Project - Bloomberg

16:18:42 benkay: ;;ticker --market all

16:18:50 mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah, so far.

16:18:56 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 418.99998, vol: 28986.71067188 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 386.95, vol: 35712.26257157 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 381.702, vol: 19160.02615 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 395.0, vol: 7196.89818735 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 345.51, vol: 540.94413523 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 411.564441, vol: 50315.55500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 401.765331811

16:19:10 ThickAsThieves: well, with pizzas at $4.2m ...

16:19:25 mircea_popescu: pity the guy didn't encase that pizza in acryulic

16:19:33 mircea_popescu: it'd be pretty stale by now, but damned good museum piece.

16:23:27 mircea_popescu: "For a time, the NSA was even banned from starting projects over a certain size, for fear it would waste the money."

16:23:28 mircea_popescu: lawl.

16:25:04 ThickAsThieves: my 1-year bitcoinniversary is soon

16:25:29 mircea_popescu: jesus you're a noob aren't you

16:25:41 mircea_popescu: i'm over two years old!!!

16:25:44 ThickAsThieves: first purchase was at $13.20

16:26:18 mircea_popescu: this shit will be so funny in a decade or two...

16:27:58 lurkwingduck: Eh I wonder if it'll maintain interest that long.

16:28:27 mircea_popescu: i'll bet you :D

16:28:49 kakobrekla: shutup kids

16:28:49 lurkwingduck: Well since I recently lost all my btc.... lmao

16:29:36 benkay: how'd you do that?

16:29:49 kakobrekla: benkay SR as a wallet!

16:30:24 lurkwingduck: Nah I just never bothered to withdraw my mod payments for a certain site.

16:30:46 kakobrekla: mod payments?

16:30:54 ThickAsThieves: are you Garr?

16:30:56 benkay: you're not a bitcoiner till someone's run game on you

16:31:13 lurkwingduck: I'm not out any money though so no skin lost.

16:31:25 benkay: that old saw

16:31:25 lurkwingduck: I am not Garr, whoever that is.

16:31:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.0001389 = 0.5556 BTC [-]

16:31:35 pankkake: .d

16:31:35 ozbot: 510929738.01615 | Next Diff in 708 blocks | Estimated Change: 15.4391% in 4d 3h 33m 56s

16:31:41 lurkwingduck: I was a moderator for a site.

16:31:50 benkay: gains forgone are losses

16:32:24 ThickAsThieves: not for Diablo-D3

16:32:28 lurkwingduck: It was mostly monopoly money to me at the time.

16:32:51 Diablo-D3: ;;ticker

16:32:52 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 417.25094, Best ask: 418.22715, Bid-ask spread: 0.97621, Last trade: 417.25092, 24 hour volume: 29035.41394069, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 424.95, 24 hour vwap: 394.46414

16:33:07 kakobrekla: and now its becomng a monopol money.

16:33:43 lurkwingduck: Yeah, I do regret not immediately withdrawing but whatevs lol

16:34:37 benkay: lessons are expensive.

16:34:43 benkay: the ones with any value, at least.

16:35:24 lurkwingduck: Stay classy SC http://videosift.com/video/S-C-Council-Votes-Unanimously-to-Intern-Citys-Homeless

16:35:50 firedrops: love that statement, benkay.

16:36:07 ThickAsThieves: I hate when someone nags you to do something right when you are doing it

16:36:18 ThickAsThieves: so it looks like you did it cuz they nagged you

16:36:57 lurkwingduck: Logs, logs everywhere!

16:37:39 pankkake: https://blockchain.info/tx/e1699b69d9a54c8b256599a3c6e9fac83e9cdf7e482d10d613197ca457302415 my first bitcoin

16:37:40 ozbot: Bitcoin Transaction e1699b69d9a54c8b256599a3c6e9fac83e9cdf7e482d10d613197ca457302415

16:39:31 benkay: i mined my first on a cpu

16:39:51 benkay: i'd love to find that computer

16:40:16 pankkake: eh. after that I mined about 1 BTC on CPUs, but it was already the GPU era so I stopped mining those "worthless" coins

16:40:54 benkay: juice was free

16:40:58 pankkake: but the worst was spending 3 months mining solo when it was already stupid to do so

16:41:00 benkay: dat dorm lyfe

16:41:12 pankkake: I think it was way before getting the 0.5 from the faucet

16:41:40 pankkake: then someone on IRC told me I should use a pool

16:41:51 pankkake: I think it was Luke-Jr!

16:42:29 truffles: the force is with him

16:42:31 kakobrekla: im at least 1 month older than pankake then

16:42:45 pankkake: anyway. a bit of noobiness, lazyness and stupidity made me a non-millionnaire

16:42:55 pankkake: :(

16:43:09 pankkake: when was mtgox hacked?

16:43:16 truffles: with money comes responsiblity though

16:44:49 pankkake: no. with money come blackjack and hookers

16:45:08 truffles: ud be poor sooner anyways :p

16:47:40 nubbins`: 1oz gold coin for 3.43 btc, so tempting!

16:47:48 jcpham: nice

16:48:10 pankkake: when it's 1 BTC no doubt I'll buy one :)

16:48:31 nubbins`: all-time high on virtex right now

16:48:38 lewicki: what am i supoposed to do with a hunk of metal?

16:48:47 mircea_popescu: i suppose i'm going to end up having to get the girls harem joolry.

16:48:47 pankkake: rub it

16:49:07 nubbins`: lewicki: make it into jewelry for your harem, i guess

16:49:09 mircea_popescu: chicks in nothing but worked gold will become the bitcoin fashion i tell you

16:50:09 pankkake: I don't think gold jewelry looks that good

16:50:15 pankkake: at least on white people

16:51:09 mircea_popescu: well white peopel are all we got.

16:51:41 nubbins`: http://milleputois.tumblr.com/

16:51:43 ozbot: MILLE PUTOIS

16:51:59 nubbins`: pankkake: gold jewelry looks tacky and boorish on post people

16:52:13 nubbins`: ? on most people

16:52:21 nubbins`: although it looks bad on the mailman too

16:52:38 pankkake: :D

16:52:41 truffles: everyone looks great nakid

16:54:48 nubbins`: http://thedilettantista.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/despair3a-aae62e.jpg

16:54:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00082309 = 1.8108 BTC [+]

16:56:29 truffles: i like the mille pins

16:57:15 truffles: is that a man?

16:57:19 truffles: i see boobs

16:58:07 truffles: is that creature suckling it

16:59:58 firedrops: http://fc14.ifca.ai/bitcoin/cfp.html I wonder if worthwhile things will happen here

16:59:59 ozbot: BITCOIN 14: Workshop on Bitcoin Research 2014 (Call for Papers)

17:01:28 truffles: nice location

17:03:03 nubbins`: that's "desperation" from the sandman series, who definitely does not look good naked

17:03:23 nubbins`: and those mille putois guys make some rad art, hey?

17:03:30 truffles: no

17:03:43 truffles: fat people should wear clothes sure

17:05:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.0023925 = 0.1053 BTC [+]

17:05:53 truffles: http://milleputois.tumblr.com/image/62183143419 why?

17:05:54 ozbot: MILLE PUTOIS: Photo

17:08:55 mircea_popescu: the guys publish "website proceedings" in book format, 80 euros

17:09:08 kakobrekla: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20131109.png

17:10:00 mircea_popescu: sponsored by silent circle (silver) and google (bronze)

17:10:07 mircea_popescu: this is some seriously funny shit

17:10:59 pankkake: kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-11-2013#374829 :p

17:11:07 pankkake: by the way, click on the red button for bonus comic

17:11:19 pankkake: too bad she doesn't include btc

17:12:08 asciilifeform: anyone hazard a guess as to the demise of http://issilentcircleopensourceyet.com ?

17:12:08 mircea_popescu: anyone wanna go to the weird accra conference ?

17:12:45 benkay: me.

17:12:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform November 06, 2012

17:12:53 mircea_popescu: it expired ?

17:12:59 mircea_popescu: benkay got a paper ?

17:13:22 benkay: nope.

17:13:27 benkay: just want to go to accra

17:13:32 benkay: could probably write one

17:13:57 benkay: user study on mpex?

17:14:00 benkay: would you commission that?

17:14:13 mircea_popescu: i doubt you'd get very far, people like their privacy.

17:14:29 nubbins`: hey, accra

17:14:36 nubbins`: a friend of mine spent 5 years in ghana

17:14:56 mircea_popescu: i might consider getting a bronze sponsor thingee if anyone made a good paper and was serious about it.

17:15:16 benkay: hm.

17:16:06 nubbins`: oh, there's an accra in the bahamas too?

17:16:10 nubbins`: that makes a bit more sense

17:17:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00560771 = 0.2467 BTC [-] {3}

17:21:45 kakobrekla: ah pankkake. keep up the good work then.

17:47:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00082421 = 10.2614 BTC [+] {3}

17:53:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20242 @ 0.00013899 = 2.8134 BTC [+] {2}

17:59:20 nubbins`: fuck this, i'm buying a krugerrand

18:00:05 mike_c: asciilifeform: for your testing today. http://www.xkcd.com/1277/

18:01:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 35.37170000 BTC to 11`830 shares, 299000 satoshi per share

18:02:38 firedrops: do it nubbins

18:02:54 mircea_popescu: mike_c elitist rng

18:04:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 10.35729165 BTC to 364`565 shares, 2841 satoshi per share

18:05:16 nubbins`: while national pride and higher purity makes me want to buy a gold maple leaf, i've already got a stack of maple leafs

18:05:31 nubbins`: diversity, &c.

18:06:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00081953 = 13.5632 BTC [-]

18:06:04 mircea_popescu: actually, diversity is bad in bulion.

18:06:06 mircea_popescu: stick to what you got.

18:06:29 nubbins`: hm, you think?

18:06:50 firedrops: well, krugs are best

18:07:31 firedrops: but yeah, if you have many maples, increase the set.

18:07:41 nubbins`: i have many silver maples, no gold ones

18:07:47 nubbins`: the design is identical tho

18:08:20 nubbins`: all my gold so far is numismatic

18:09:47 mircea_popescu: no gold is "numismatic" unless you actually have renaissance italian issues or something

18:12:32 chaang-noi: 420, so who is lighting up in celibration? :)

18:13:26 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: coin collectors disagree, and as long as they continue to do so...

18:14:08 mircea_popescu: the entire value of the investment is predicated on circumstances changing of such nature that they can't continue to do so.

18:14:31 mircea_popescu: think about it. the "numismatic" value of bullion coins exists for as long as overcapitalised clueless americans stil exist.

18:15:27 nubbins`: the overcapitalised clueless always have and will always exist, although the nation to which they call home changes over time

18:16:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.00568642 = 0.1592 BTC [-] {4}

18:16:34 nubbins`: so unless the postal system collapses, i'm not particularly worried about finding a market for these down the road

18:16:53 asciilifeform: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/ghcq-targets-engineers-with-fake-linkedin-pages-a-932821.html

18:16:55 ozbot: GHCQ Targets Engineers with Fake LinkedIn Pages - SPIEGEL ONLINE

18:17:15 nubbins`: although, to be fair, i buy numismatic coins because they appeal to my aesthetics

18:18:51 nubbins`: and i buy bullion because it's an investment

18:19:19 nubbins`: occasionally these two overlap, like with the Chinese 1oz panda coins

18:19:43 mod6: i would think you'd want it for its melt value, not its rarity

18:20:38 mod6: so when you have to cut one into quarters or whatever for tp... that guy wont care if its rare or not, only if it melts pure.

18:21:03 nubbins`: well, i have numismatic coins and vanilla bullion

18:21:11 nubbins`: and cash, and btc, and property, and skills, etc

18:21:13 nubbins`: diversity!

18:21:40 mod6: aight

18:21:44 mod6: :]

18:22:11 nubbins`: coincidentally, this whole collecting thing started when i was about six years old

18:22:22 nubbins`: i found a Cyprus 3 mil coin in a handful of change

18:22:50 nubbins`: located Cyprus on a map, and dutifully hid away my newfound treasure for future days when it'd be worth a million bucks

18:23:01 asciilifeform: metals aficionados, do you run density tests on what you buy?

18:23:47 nubbins`: no, altho i don't buy bars

18:24:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea of coins is mostly that joe schmoe doesn't need any gear.

18:24:32 mircea_popescu: kinda why actual investors shun coins

18:24:34 nubbins`: ^

18:24:38 mod6: actually, im no aficionado, but density tests don't work to determine if filled with tungsten afaik. (gold and tungsten have nearly identical density) -- typically i've heard that the smaller the denomination of coin, the safer because they're harder to forge.

18:24:39 nubbins`: (^)

18:24:48 asciilifeform: you at least need the 'density spoon'

18:24:58 mircea_popescu: mod6 at the size of a coin, the cost of tungsten filling exceeds the value extracted.

18:25:13 nubbins`: i should just put "^" on a timer

18:25:15 mod6: ahh. that then too.

18:25:40 nubbins`: you can buy tungsten wedding rings

18:25:40 asciilifeform: if nobody tests, you don't even need tungsten, old-fashioned lead will suffice.

18:25:45 nubbins`: popular thing these days

18:26:08 nubbins`: altho impossible to cut off, so if you find yourself in the ER, they'll be shattering your ring with a set of locking pliers

18:26:28 mod6: don't get married?

18:26:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually at the size of a coin, recognising lead fillings with a density meter is not trivial

18:26:38 nubbins`: mod6, too late

18:26:40 mircea_popescu: not that it can't be done, but you need steady hands and eyes

18:26:44 nubbins`: (i chose titanium)

18:26:55 asciilifeform: the traditional method is the 'spoon' that tips over

18:27:01 asciilifeform: has a 'go/no-go gauge' in it, too

18:27:10 nubbins`: tell me more of this spoon!

18:27:45 asciilifeform: example: http://picture.yatego.com/images/47b45967967651.8/big_gcb0-kqh/goldmnzen-tester---gold-coin-balance.jpg

18:27:45 assbot: 123!

18:28:02 nubbins`: cool

18:28:04 asciilifeform: middle-right hand: thickness gauge

18:28:17 mircea_popescu: nubbins` tungsten's durity is why it's not worth filling coins with it.

18:28:59 asciilifeform: ultrasonic is the gold standard test if you don't want to drill/melt the sample.

18:29:18 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: from what i've heard, it's a massive pain to work tungsten

18:29:28 mircea_popescu: it is.

18:29:44 mircea_popescu: and the cost is per item (ie, making a 1/2kg filling or a 5 gram filling costs roughly the same)

18:29:54 nubbins`: nod

18:30:03 nubbins`: all kinds of fancy metals being used for rings these days. cobalt is another one

18:30:04 asciilifeform: t is pyrophoric.

18:30:08 nubbins`: EXTREMELY heavy

18:30:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00589697 = 0.1533 BTC [+] {2}

18:30:39 asciilifeform: machine under noble gas.

18:30:55 nubbins`: or inside a giant lightbulb

18:31:43 mircea_popescu: actually working a W bar into a W screw on a plain old machine would be one hell of a fireworks display

18:32:09 nubbins`: i bet there's youtube videos of that

18:32:36 mircea_popescu: doubt it

18:34:25 nubbins`: yeah, closest i can find is some asshole shooting 2mm tungsten bullets from a gun the size of my thumb

18:39:50 mod6: ;;bc,stats

18:39:53 gribble: Current Blocks: 269449 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 694 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 16 hours, 7 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 590449211.345 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.56368

18:40:31 nubbins`: tourette's / schizo neighbour is having a bad day today

18:41:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00082506 = 7.9618 BTC [+]

18:48:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 871 @ 0.0010102 = 0.8799 BTC [-]

18:52:29 mircea_popescu: ;;sell 500

18:52:29 gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, (1 more message)

18:52:34 mircea_popescu: ;;bids 500

18:52:36 gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 500.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0090 seconds

18:52:51 mircea_popescu: ;;asks 500

18:52:51 gribble: There are currently 5681.8334 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 2597154.68304 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.2396 seconds

18:54:01 nubbins`: i struggle to understand the price fluctuations of XBOND

18:54:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.005897 = 0.1474 BTC [+]

18:55:10 mike_c: well, it likely dropped recently when TAT implied he might forcefully buy some back.

18:56:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.625 BTC [+]

19:01:53 pankkake: not many bonds left on the market then

19:02:03 pankkake: I hope someone makes the JBOND, face value 0.07

19:02:33 ThickAsThieves: that was my original plan actually

19:02:38 ThickAsThieves: 007BOND

19:02:45 pankkake: :))

19:03:01 ThickAsThieves: and make the interest .07% per

19:03:07 ThickAsThieves: but day was too much

19:03:13 ThickAsThieves: and week too little

19:03:15 ThickAsThieves: etc

19:03:26 ThickAsThieves: XBOND is a better setup anyway

19:05:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [-]

19:07:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.625 = 1.25 BTC [+]

19:10:18 kakobrekla: got the shirts today, thanks nubbins` and mp.

19:10:39 nubbins`: if i understand correctly, tat can't forcefully buy back at 1.0x; it's just an opportunity for people to initiate their own sell-back at 1.0x rather than 0.95x

19:10:43 nubbins`: kako, great!

19:10:49 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla any good ?

19:10:59 kakobrekla: i need to gain some weight so i can wear xl

19:11:03 kakobrekla: else its good

19:11:30 nubbins`: wash it in hot water and tumble dry high a bunch of times

19:11:48 kakobrekla: simpler to eat moar.

19:12:05 nubbins`: +1

19:12:23 nubbins`: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly24pw4eOB1qbk3wno1_500.jpg

19:12:33 nubbins`: carl sagan's 79th would have been 4 days ago

19:17:12 kakobrekla: hm btw

19:17:24 kakobrekla: is the top of that finger supposed to be usb?

19:17:30 kakobrekla: ah

19:17:34 kakobrekla: its ethernet

19:17:45 kakobrekla: stupid me

19:18:19 mircea_popescu: the top of the finger is supposed to be lubricated

19:18:25 nubbins`: LEL

19:18:35 nubbins`: helps the sharp plastic edges fit in a bit easier

19:28:06 mike_c: nubbins`: right, he can buy back at .00105 so it gets very risky to pay more than that for it because you might not have long to get dividends to make up difference. asks are basically right at .00105.

19:30:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00082506 = 1.9801 BTC [+]

19:31:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2900 @ 0.00014 = 0.406 BTC [+]

19:32:00 kakobrekla: i guess the premium speaks for the market, wanting more

19:32:48 kakobrekla: still better than the premiums on smidge fundy :)

19:33:41 ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/13/5099176/lavabit-owner-10000-fine-snowden-email

19:33:42 ozbot: US wants $10,000 from Lavabit owner for dodging order for Snowden's email | The Verge

19:34:25 kakobrekla: how is 10k newsworthy?

19:34:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.001025 = 0.2563 BTC [+]

19:34:52 ThickAsThieves: it's affordable at least

19:35:05 mircea_popescu: well if you work for the press 10k is > your lifetime income.

19:45:07 ThickAsThieves: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/11/13/sanitizing-bitcoin-coin-validation/

19:45:09 ozbot: Sanitizing Bitcoin: This Company Wants To Track 'Clean' Bitcoin Accounts - Forbes

19:45:18 ThickAsThieves: by clean, they mean not clean

19:45:35 mircea_popescu: and by seed round they mean cash flushjed down toilet

19:46:05 ThickAsThieves: That conversation also involved Yifu Guo, another 20-something like Waters, who became a “Bitcoin millionaire” selling computing equipment dedicated to “Bitcoin mining” though his company Avalon. Now the unlikely trio of two technologists and a Wharton grad is launching Coin Validation, a due diligence service for Bitcoin businesses that they hope will help set regulators’

19:46:05 ThickAsThieves: minds at ease.

19:46:26 mircea_popescu: wait wait, i recall that name.

19:46:27 ThickAsThieves: One business is already committed: Guo’s Bitcoin mining equipment maker, Avalon. A big question is whether they can get others to sign on as they’ll need a network effect to make the database useful.

19:46:30 ThickAsThieves: hehe

19:46:39 mircea_popescu: so basically avalon is dead.

19:46:56 ThickAsThieves: “We’re not in this to make money, we’re in it to get it sorted with Congress,” says Mellon, who eschews the dessert menu for a bowl of fresh raspberries.

19:46:57 ThickAsThieves: O

19:46:58 ThickAsThieves: M

19:46:59 ThickAsThieves: G

19:47:01 ThickAsThieves: haha

19:47:26 lurkwingduck: Was the fruit thing needed?

19:47:28 mircea_popescu: sometimes it's like they have a stupid competition going and we never fouind out.

19:47:31 ThickAsThieves: that sounds so... flamboyantly scamtastic

19:48:04 ThickAsThieves: “We don’t want to be the sheriff of the Bitcoin community. We just want to create an ecosystem of clean addresses.”

19:48:10 ThickAsThieves: it hurts

19:48:44 lurkwingduck: "clean"

19:49:02 ThickAsThieves: isn't this idea like fundamentally flawed?

19:49:10 kakobrekla: i will shoot the sheriff and maybe the deputy too.

19:49:30 ThickAsThieves: if the tracking is centralized, and they change the data internally

19:49:37 lurkwingduck: Especially considering how the security/anonymity minded people use address.

19:49:40 ThickAsThieves: then u fukt?

19:50:21 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves basically this is a lot of pretense around the reputation scam people try to run on the forum

19:50:37 mircea_popescu: whatever was that dork's name that had a gambling list where he blacklisted everything (except scams) ?

19:51:20 Namworld: So that's like if every time a US dollar bill was used for a drug transaction, it became "void"? Good luck with that.

19:51:44 ThickAsThieves: well not exactly that

19:52:07 ThickAsThieves: they dont wanna make any money or police anyone or anything bad bro

19:52:26 mircea_popescu: Namworld no, more like "if you say avalon is pretty scammy we will write down your address on our list of things we hate"

19:52:30 lurkwingduck: They just want to point fingers at "bad" addresses

19:52:43 ThickAsThieves: they just wanna sit on top of the blockchain and see if coins come out

19:53:03 mircea_popescu: they just know vcs are retarded and are trying to milk it while it's good.

19:53:43 ThickAsThieves: http://b-i.forbesimg.com/kashmirhill/files/2013/11/Coin-Validation.jpg

19:53:45 lurkwingduck: Haha mircea_popescu that is most likely the exercise.

19:53:56 ThickAsThieves: Trust us!

19:53:58 Namworld: yeah, I meant allow businesses to refuse "bad" addresses, which I suppose it means tracking "unclean" coin. Which is a pretty awful thing to do.

19:54:29 Namworld: Maybe they should go propose to the USG to make bills with sensors that explode when they're used in an illegitimate transaction. This way the USG could have only clean money circulating.

19:54:34 mircea_popescu: Namworld notrly. great way for businesses run by idiots to sink themselves.

19:55:00 Namworld: You're right... actually a good filter

19:56:48 mircea_popescu: lurkwingduck it's a living. not as good as stripping, but what's a boy to do.

19:57:23 lurkwingduck: I've apparently been going about this making money thing all wrong.

19:58:48 benkay: you make money?

19:58:52 mircea_popescu: lol

19:58:55 lurkwingduck: While we're at it lets allow vendors to choose which miners/pools are allowed to process their transactions specifically.

19:59:16 benkay: i want to make some money.

19:59:17 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

19:59:18 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 427.00002, Best ask: 429.555, Bid-ask spread: 2.55498, Last trade: 427.00002, 24 hour volume: 29600.11759327, 24 hour low: 365.0, 24 hour high: 429.89021, 24 hour vwap: 400.87868

19:59:25 ThickAsThieves: just buy bitcoins

19:59:40 lurkwingduck: benkay, yeah and then I give most of it to BoA for a loan.

19:59:54 ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> bitcoin is so totally going to 500... all these lolz

20:00:10 ThickAsThieves: with lolz like these, who needs friends

20:00:12 benkay: the joke is on "make"

20:00:24 mircea_popescu: that's a good line.

20:01:06 ThickAsThieves: since when is it too late to buy bitcoins?

20:01:39 lurkwingduck: I was referring to the "make" joke

20:01:40 mircea_popescu: it was always too late.

20:01:52 mircea_popescu: i recall distinctly ppl going "oh , it's wayt too late now that it attained parity"

20:02:06 lewicki: parity with...?

20:02:06 mircea_popescu: they meant dollar parity.

20:02:29 mircea_popescu: because this was a thing, at some point people had trouble groking the concept that funny internet butts are intrinsically worth more than any fiat.

20:03:02 benkay: funny fiat butts will never be worth any crypto

20:03:28 lurkwingduck: Honestly when I first heard of it back when it was dimes per btc I thought it was some sort of ponzi and promptly forgot about it for a few years.

20:03:42 lurkwingduck: Oooops

20:03:52 ThickAsThieves: little did you know how strong of a ponzi it was

20:03:59 lurkwingduck: Exactly

20:04:01 kakobrekla: if its not a ponzi its a scam.

20:04:25 mircea_popescu: it's a sconzi.

20:04:46 kakobrekla: isnt that pankakes thing

20:04:55 kakobrekla: a pozni but scam cause it doesnt pay anything at all

20:07:42 benkay: ;;calc 10000/100

20:07:42 gribble: 100

20:07:46 benkay: derp

20:08:11 mircea_popescu: benkay's brunette wig fell off.

20:08:59 benkay: u guise i can't get to this dick

20:09:05 benkay: there's something between me and it

20:09:07 benkay: it's hard

20:09:07 benkay: flat

20:09:19 benkay: *slams face into glass table again*

20:09:39 kakobrekla: hm, you trying to blow yourself?

20:09:58 benkay: how do you break a blonde's nose?

20:10:24 benkay: put a dildo underneath a glass table.

20:14:33 thestringpuller: ;;calc 10000/80

20:14:33 gribble: 125

20:15:31 thestringpuller: what?

20:19:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000138 = 0.138 BTC [-]

20:21:17 Namworld: Erik Voorhees 4 hours ago

20:21:17 Namworld: Connecting Bitcoin with government will sanitize the government more than it does Bitcoin.

20:23:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 117 @ 0.001025 = 0.1199 BTC [+]

20:23:54 TomServo: !jd

20:23:54 assbot: Just-Dice stat: 7601 BTC profit, 58.1k BTC invested, 248.35 mio bets, 4.39 mio BTC wagered

20:24:21 kakobrekla: ;;calc 58.1*400

20:24:21 gribble: 23240

20:25:07 mike_c: time to cut and run dooglus!

20:25:51 ThickAsThieves: http://coinometrics.com/bitcoin/brix

20:26:11 ThickAsThieves: might be a cool gribble tool - current 51% attack cost

20:27:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00082506 = 10.8083 BTC [+]

20:28:06 mike_c: cool site. BTC is 100 biggest currency in the world. http://coinometrics.com/bitcoin/bmix

20:28:25 mike_c: *100th

20:29:03 lurkwingduck: I found the payment network rankings interesting

20:29:48 ThickAsThieves: western union better watch out

20:29:50 kakobrekla: but narrow money is like what, 1% of all of it?

20:30:59 ThickAsThieves: ;;bids 0

20:30:59 gribble: There are currently 16945597 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 25435575.3776 USD in total. | Data vintage: 215.4425 seconds

20:31:08 ThickAsThieves: lol

20:31:16 ThickAsThieves: $25m

20:31:54 ThickAsThieves: ;;market buy 15000

20:31:55 gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 12448.086 bitcoins, for a total of 10575763281.8703 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 3.8170 seconds

20:32:10 mike_c: kakobrekla ah, yeah. ok, not as impressive.

20:32:14 TomServo: When did SD get a facelift?

20:32:51 kakobrekla: a week or two ago

20:33:01 TomServo: Ah. Any news on new ownership?

20:33:04 kakobrekla: maybe a month

20:33:11 kakobrekla: i have no real perception of time anymore

20:33:22 mike_c: two modes now. new one can be account betting. old one still available http://legacy.satoshidice.com/

20:33:45 thestringpuller: ;;market sell 15000

20:33:45 gribble: A market order to sell 15000 bitcoins right now would net 5634723.9851 USD and would take the last price down to 332.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 375.6483 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 113.8440 seconds

20:33:54 thestringpuller: ;;market sell 150000

20:33:55 gribble: A market order to sell 150000 bitcoins right now would net 24261410.3761 USD and would take the last price down to 37.4000 USD, resulting in an average price of 161.7427 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 123.6558 seconds

20:33:58 mircea_popescu: funny how you could sell 15k but not buy 15k.

20:34:05 thestringpuller: lolololol

20:34:27 ThickAsThieves: it's a bitcoin shortage

20:34:29 ThickAsThieves: what to do

20:34:42 mircea_popescu: mine.

20:34:50 kakobrekla: no, they are mine.

20:34:50 ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate

20:34:52 gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 585566481.187 based on data since last change | 690716495.324 based on data for last three days

20:35:03 Namworld: Rolls Today

20:35:03 Namworld: 25251

20:35:03 Namworld: Volume Today

20:35:03 Namworld: 109.06244382

20:35:15 Namworld: Wow... SD new website ain't getting much business...

20:35:26 ThickAsThieves: it's ugly

20:35:48 dub: ;;market buy 15000

20:35:48 gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 12448.086 bitcoins, for a total of 10575763281.8703 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. | Data vintage: 237.1764 seconds

20:36:10 ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 999

20:36:12 gribble: There are currently 8322.2921 bitcoins offered at or under 999.0 USD, worth 4398457.41127 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0025 seconds

20:36:19 mike_c: plus those blinking eyes are annoying as hell

20:36:24 thestringpuller: lol there is a bitcoin shortage!

20:36:48 thestringpuller: gotta wait fo niggas to spend

20:37:36 Namworld: Coinroll has more volume than that...

20:37:50 ThickAsThieves: maybe they will buy you

20:38:07 kakobrekla: and put a face in your logos

20:38:10 ThickAsThieves: for 1 satoshidice

20:38:30 Namworld: Coinroll ain't mine

20:38:45 ThickAsThieves: word

20:39:13 kakobrekla: btce is now basically paired with bitstamp, thats odd

20:39:29 ThickAsThieves: .r

20:39:30 ozbot: Gox | Buy: $428.50 Sell: $429.00 Last: $429.00 High: $429.98 Low: $365.00

20:39:30 ozbot: Bitstamp | Buy: $397.00

20:39:30 ozbot: Coinbase | Buy: $407.48

20:39:30 ozbot: Weex | API Error

20:39:39 kakobrekla: go weex!

20:40:14 ThickAsThieves: coinsetter wants to connect all the exchanges

20:40:20 firedrops: ;;seen ukyo

20:40:21 gribble: ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 0 hours, 11 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <Ukyo> mgio: pm

20:40:26 ThickAsThieves: reddites are excited for all the arb

20:40:30 kakobrekla: here tat, jesus saves: http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected

20:41:14 ThickAsThieves: thank you sir

20:41:23 ThickAsThieves: i mean, thank jezus

20:41:25 kakobrekla: ma'am.

20:46:44 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves arb, as in rhubarb.

20:46:53 ThickAsThieves: arb for everyone!

20:47:03 ThickAsThieves: it's what's fair

20:48:22 mircea_popescu: fun fact of the day : slovenia spends on defense 500 mn a year. bangladesh, 1500.

20:48:28 mircea_popescu: 3 times as defended!

20:48:46 ThickAsThieves: how many bitcoins does the USG have again?

20:48:48 kakobrekla: but we also have sekrit weapon.

20:48:58 Namworld: technology used matters more than budget methink

20:49:06 mike_c: fbi has 177k

20:49:19 Namworld: Also amount of soldiers. Those are cheaper than vehicles.

20:49:23 mircea_popescu: mike_c fbi has a wallet which cointains 177k

20:49:31 mike_c: yes. that.

20:49:36 mircea_popescu: Namworld im pretty sure bangladesh flattens slovenia on headcount

20:49:56 mircea_popescu: even if the bangladeshis decide to only fight with 17 yo women taller than 170

20:50:25 kakobrekla: alright, i cant stand the pressure any more, ill tell you. tractors.

20:50:26 Namworld: Probably

20:50:28 mircea_popescu: it's like 200mn people or some shit

20:50:42 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla tractors ? what, you drag the country further west if in danger ?

20:51:00 kakobrekla: that one way of going about it.

20:51:02 kakobrekla: thats

20:51:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 609 @ 0.001025 = 0.6242 BTC [+]

20:52:02 mircea_popescu: lol bitcointalk mods filled a post of mpoe-pr's with [expletive deleted]

20:52:18 firedrops: wtf?

20:52:35 firedrops: they're censoring language now? what a bunch of twats.

20:52:36 kakobrekla: mebbe they get paid by ban and square brackets counts

20:52:41 mircea_popescu: i ddin't know she expletives that much

20:53:33 mircea_popescu: wow. i just realised that at a population of 2mn, you could probably personally meet each girl that turns 17 during a year.

20:53:40 mircea_popescu: in slovenia. it can be done.

20:53:43 davout: kakobrekla: mods do get paid by deletion count and whatnot

20:53:57 firedrops: mircea_popescu, sounds like a valuable experiments.

20:54:01 firedrops: for your junk.

20:54:05 kakobrekla: davout tell them im a gold mine.

20:54:18 mircea_popescu: davout mods get paid ?! since when !?

20:54:25 firedrops: mods get paid? that's backasswards

20:54:29 davout: ofc they get paid

20:54:47 mircea_popescu: i never heard of paid mods.

20:54:53 mircea_popescu: what's next, ima start paying my maids ?!

20:55:04 mircea_popescu: da fuck is this world headed to, srsly.

20:55:29 dub: neat, who i s amod and wants to cut a trolling contract

20:55:38 dub: I'll troll, you delete, split profits

20:55:50 kakobrekla: ill troll for free just gimme mah acct back

20:55:53 davout: well, i delete a few spam threads here and there in the french section and get paid approx 0.5 BTC/month

20:55:59 mircea_popescu: dub i thought you were gainfully employed.

20:56:29 dub: I can multitask

20:56:41 dub: I troll you lot for free erryday

20:56:56 mircea_popescu: i thought that was because we had something speshul.

20:57:12 pankkake: I report a lot of stuff! why am I not paid

20:57:26 kakobrekla: cause you report the wrong stuff pankkake

20:57:33 pankkake: You have reported 38 posts with 93% accuracy

20:57:36 kakobrekla: start reporting mpoe and money shall cum

20:57:37 dub: I'd like to get paid for maintaining what is probably the largest ignore list

20:57:54 pankkake: but that's because I have an autowatch on the french forum so I catch the spam

20:58:14 mircea_popescu: people actually spam the french forum ?

20:58:19 mircea_popescu: why ? someone reads it ?

20:58:19 davout: pankkake: because you're the content

20:58:31 pankkake: yes, with google translated spams

20:58:42 mircea_popescu: lmao

20:58:46 pankkake: also, because it doesn't require to be out of newbie jail

20:59:05 mircea_popescu: once, the center of the world. nowadays, not even worth writing spam for.

20:59:09 ThickAsThieves: the french are simply more experienced

20:59:11 mircea_popescu: france has really done well under the socialists.

21:04:24 ThickAsThieves: The report also highlights the extensive scientific literature on the human ability to identify deceptive behavior. Summarizing 400 studies over the past 60 years, the report concludes that humans perform only "the same as or slightly better than chance." Given that the TSA has spent almost a billion dollars on the program, that's a pretty poor record.

21:05:42 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's funny how in most socialist contries, they yearn for free markets anyways...

21:05:54 ThickAsThieves: Bugpowder is your Tesla worth $400 yet?

21:05:54 truffles: 0.0

21:05:59 ThickAsThieves: $400k*

21:06:05 Bugpowder: heh

21:06:11 Bugpowder: I haven't bought one yet

21:06:16 ThickAsThieves: nice

21:06:20 Bugpowder: I lost enough for a few teslas on JD though

21:06:26 ThickAsThieves: aww

21:06:31 Bugpowder: 1000BTC

21:06:39 Bugpowder: cold streak

21:06:42 Bugpowder: sigh

21:06:51 Bugpowder: I'm still gonna get one...

21:06:53 ThickAsThieves: they gotta pay the bills somehow

21:06:57 Bugpowder: Wife has almost come around

21:07:04 Bugpowder: In escrow on a nice house too.

21:08:39 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's also bs. humans get close to 100%, provided they're not idiots.

21:08:54 mircea_popescu: you try and pass contraband by a customs agent with 30 years in the field and tell me.

21:11:34 ThickAsThieves: smart humans cost too much, just buy dumb machines instead

21:12:02 mircea_popescu: ya well, then you get slightly better or equal to chance

21:12:23 ThickAsThieves: plus now everyone is documented nude

21:12:26 benkay: "people" make the same arguments about wine

21:12:27 ThickAsThieves: pretty good cause

21:12:37 benkay: average sample of wine "experts" can't tell shit from shinola

21:12:41 benkay: non idiots, well

21:12:52 mircea_popescu: benkay you know the joke with the monk ?

21:13:00 benkay: there are a few...

21:13:07 benkay: hit me

21:13:26 mircea_popescu: this monk is famous for being able to identify any wine, by the vineyard, even by the vintage in most cases.

21:13:41 mircea_popescu: so in order to pull a prank on him, some doods get him a glass fulla piss

21:13:54 mircea_popescu: monk takes a sip... sloshes it around, takes another sip and goes

21:14:08 mircea_popescu: "16, virgin and not in our paroch"

21:15:46 ThickAsThieves: 500 today maybe?

21:15:48 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

21:15:48 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 442.0, Best ask: 443.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 443.0, 24 hour volume: 31501.56542867, 24 hour low: 367.31002, 24 hour high: 445.0, 24 hour vwap: 405.14175

21:16:04 ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 499

21:16:05 gribble: There are currently 5319.58 bitcoins offered at or under 499.0 USD, worth 2488846.12375 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.2186 seconds

21:17:42 Bugpowder: Record high total bid depth on Gox

21:17:44 Bugpowder: by far

21:18:09 Bugpowder: 25391256.5049 USD

21:18:41 Bugpowder: 2.5M of that are fresh from the last 2 hours. So its conceivable we could touch it.

21:20:16 ThickAsThieves: don't let china win guys, buy all the bitcoins!

21:20:33 kakobrekla: china stole all teh btc already

21:48:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.621 BTC [-]

21:55:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.26018665 = 0.7806 BTC [-]

21:58:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 750 @ 0.00582417 = 4.3681 BTC [+] {5}

21:59:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.621 = 6.21 BTC [-]

22:05:01 mike_c: Today in history. Nov. 13, 2010: $0.30 2011: $3 2012: $11 2013: $410

22:06:03 mircea_popescu: basically it's 10x a year, 2012 was an error, shoulda been 30

22:06:19 kakobrekla: http://wikileaks.org/tpp/

22:06:21 ozbot: Secret Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP)

22:17:25 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ironically, i would guess by now nobody cares anymore

22:17:41 mircea_popescu: i don't see who can be bothered to read the 5000000 pages of crap governments write

22:18:01 mike_c: tl;dr - the government is screwing you

22:18:29 dub: you mean your govt is screwing us

22:18:38 mike_c: that too.

22:19:00 mike_c: my govt is "the government"

22:19:13 dub: not for long

22:19:26 dub: allah willing

22:19:30 mike_c: hehe

22:22:06 mircea_popescu: i wonder if in a coupla years wikileaks type sites will have degenerated to posting unflattering shower pics of elected officials

22:22:16 mircea_popescu: sorta like sex tapes.

22:24:47 Namworld: Can someone explain me why people are replying to BTCT.co by sending me their BTC addresses so BTCT.co can send them their balance?

22:24:57 Namworld: Or why people email me claims to assets I never managed?

22:25:05 Namworld: I am not BTCT.co

22:25:21 mircea_popescu: lies

22:25:26 firedrops: are you sure?

22:25:35 Namworld: People also email me for coinroll.it and other things

22:25:40 Namworld: To my hotmail

22:25:52 mircea_popescu: maybe your hotmail has been around.

22:25:55 Namworld: Which is only public on the who.is on namworld.com

22:26:13 Namworld: Which mean people go a long way around to reach me instead of contacting the correct and obvious person

22:26:29 mircea_popescu: nubbins` send Namworld a tshirt with "other people get hotwives and all i have is this lousy hotmail"

22:27:29 Namworld: What's wrong with people?

22:27:36 mike_c: it is also on the whois for coinroll.org

22:28:01 mike_c: and coinroll.info

22:28:15 mike_c: so that's why :)

22:28:23 ThickAsThieves: Namworld same things happen to me

22:28:42 ThickAsThieves: someone tried to redeem xbond for some CBTC

22:28:57 Namworld: Ah. True, I registered those.

22:29:01 ThickAsThieves: and they wanna know why I haven't given them their burnside PT shares

22:29:09 kakobrekla: you are all good as long as your btc balance is not negative.

22:29:40 ThickAsThieves: from today: "hi , what is happening on havelockinvestments.com? i dont understand!!!!

22:29:41 ThickAsThieves: you give us dividends or not??"

22:30:12 kakobrekla: no dividend for you. come back 1 year.

22:30:13 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: a friend's mom called me years ago wondering why her emails to her_son's_name@hotmale.com were being returned

22:30:30 Namworld: My BTC balance says "-5.14ohgodwhy538526"

22:30:38 Namworld: It's too late kako

22:30:44 kakobrekla: sucks!

22:30:51 Namworld: I've borked BTC

22:31:02 mircea_popescu: lol

22:38:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0023925 = 0.1675 BTC [+]

22:54:00 jurov: http://bitcoinism.blogspot.sk/2013/11/is-it-time-to-boycott-all-us-bitcoin.html nice commentary

22:54:00 ozbot: Bitcoinism: Is It Time to Boycott All US Bitcoin Companies?

22:55:29 asciilifeform: jurov: what we're dealing with here is the 'TOR gambit.'

22:56:15 asciilifeform: specifically: 1) impose ham-handed censorship 2) herd lusers into 'l33t h4ck3r privacy' honeypots 3) '???, profit.'

22:56:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3474 @ 0.00081953 = 2.847 BTC [-]

22:57:08 firedrops: 22:28 < ThickAsThieves> Namworld same things happen to me

22:57:08 firedrops: 22:28 < ThickAsThieves> someone tried to redeem xbond for some CBTC

22:57:08 firedrops: 22:29 < Namworld> Ah. True, I registered those.

22:57:08 firedrops: 22:29 < ThickAsThieves> and they wanna know why I haven't given them their burnside PT shares

22:57:12 firedrops: 22:29 < kakobrekla> you are all good as long as your btc balance is not negative.

22:57:15 firedrops: 22:29 -!- [\\\] [~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

22:57:18 firedrops: 22:29 < ThickAsThieves> from today: "hi , what is happening on havelockinvestments.com? i dont understand

22:57:21 firedrops: 22:29 < ThickAsThieves> you give us dividends or not??"

22:57:23 firedrops: 22:30 < kakobrekla> no dividend for you. come back 1 year.

22:57:43 jurov: firedrops we have log for this

22:59:49 firedrops: dropped my shit, sorry y'all

23:00:08 firedrops: just posted to bash, then splat

23:00:16 firedrops: my omlete and bacon is fine, dont worry

23:01:16 mircea_popescu: the delightful ignorance of these two week old bloggers.

23:01:30 mircea_popescu: resistence to us crap is basically... mpex.

23:02:00 mircea_popescu: how they manage to write five pages of nothing that keeps changing every three months but somehow manages to miss that basic point i will never know.

23:03:09 mircea_popescu: he wants me to boycott "us bitcoin companies" meanwhile his blog runs on google. just that...

23:03:21 firedrops: bitcoin happens to people in stages, most of which are false confidence in their understanding of it. I'm in stage 6, false confidence in my understanding of it.

23:03:51 mircea_popescu: wd!

23:04:26 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1460782/plain/)

23:04:26 mircea_popescu: !b 2

23:05:39 firedrops: ah, there commands for that. good to know.

23:05:48 firedrops: there are*

23:06:02 mircea_popescu: what, you thought you knew irc ? :D

23:06:13 mircea_popescu: anyway, that's all for me. gl all.

23:06:25 firedrops: adios mp

23:08:28 jurov: gl mp

23:12:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 340 @ 0.00103 = 0.3502 BTC [-]

23:19:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11501 @ 0.00014 = 1.6101 BTC [+] {2}

23:34:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]