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00:05:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.0005679 = 2.5556 BTC [+] {2}

00:21:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00056607 = 11.0101 BTC [-] {5}

00:32:58 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> the way it's going now we have software written by lumberjacks and trees planted by pencilnecks. << hahaha

00:35:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00056928 = 3.2449 BTC [+] {2}

00:44:18 ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai, gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well: http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg

00:44:19 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RSkgNj )

00:44:56 ben_vulpes: (in the spirit of showing things around before posting to the ml)

00:45:39 ben_vulpes: i've included some barebones instructions on how to set up a cl for testing, shinohai.

00:46:21 jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 << roasted and milled various plant parts, including acorns, chicory roots, cereal grains are sold around here as coffee-alikes

00:46:21 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 18:55:36; ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs.

00:46:52 jurov: to this day, and they were widely used before "black coffee" was available

00:47:25 jurov: done right, the taste is good and they are coffein-free and improve digestion

00:48:28 jurov: !up referredbyqntra

00:48:40 referredbyqntra: bithroat here

00:48:56 jurov: who is bithroat?

00:49:01 referredbyqntra: I have a scoop for you about coinbase, bitfinex and itbit

00:49:15 referredbyqntra: i cannot tell you who i am

00:49:27 referredbyqntra: but i have news that you can use on qntra

00:49:31 jurov: you want to submit stuff to qntra?

00:49:36 referredbyqntra: yes

00:49:45 jurov: well, you need wot account then

00:49:54 referredbyqntra: what is wot

00:50:23 jurov: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets < see here

00:50:24 assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o )

00:51:31 referredbyqntra: i have a limited amount of time

00:51:43 referredbyqntra: and story is big

00:51:49 referredbyqntra: can i email them?

00:52:17 referredbyqntra: i think its important

00:52:26 mircea_popescu: ok so talk to me.

00:52:35 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/contact-pgp/

00:52:36 assbot: Contact : PGP on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHnPZ3 )

00:53:29 referredbyqntra: on coinbase. - they lost their silicon valey bank account because their risk was too high. now banking with silvergate (sp?) bank but on verge of losing that bank account

00:54:38 mircea_popescu: aha.

00:55:23 referredbyqntra: the us regulator on coinbase is closing in on big fine for violations on money laundering

00:55:34 referredbyqntra: big fincen fine is copming

00:56:25 referredbyqntra: inside email details an over 40 million dollar fine

00:57:02 mircea_popescu: and you have that email ?

00:57:12 referredbyqntra: on bitfinex - they lost there principal bank account and now use a taiwan bank account but

00:57:37 referredbyqntra: may lose that bank account as taiwan has outlawed bitcoin usage

00:57:48 referredbyqntra: i do not have the email it was read to me over phone

00:58:26 mircea_popescu: uh ok.

00:58:37 referredbyqntra: bitfinex is in big trouble and is struggling to stay open especially if they lose the taiwan bank account.

00:59:17 mircea_popescu: so the part here that is documented isn't exactly news, on either of these two. the part that's be news apparently isn't documented.

00:59:50 mircea_popescu: god knows i've been squeezing the door on bitfinex for years now, i don't know who exactly imagined they'll survive the process. anyway.

01:00:44 kakobrekla: since words are water, whats with itbit then

01:01:15 mircea_popescu: meh.

01:01:33 referredbyqntra: itbit - investor friend told me that bank chain product is smoke and mirrors

01:02:00 referredbyqntra: seeking new round of investment but fund raising stalled

01:02:39 referredbyqntra: its arrivarderci to lead investore

01:03:15 referredbyqntra: the exchange no profit so they do not have much longer

01:03:34 mircea_popescu: arrivederci.

01:06:12 mircea_popescu: anyway, listen referredbyqntra, make yourself a wot account, try and write any of these up to a reasonable standard, if you manage they'll prolly get approved.

01:06:32 referredbyqntra: investore friend told me - soros group pulled out of lead role

01:07:00 referredbyqntra: i cannot say no more

01:07:14 mircea_popescu: until such a time you can peddle rumours on your own authority you'll be stuck building up that authority. so first, make a name, second, spend some time doing the job.

01:07:41 referredbyqntra: ok do not believe me. but everyone will see

01:09:13 referredbyqntra: thank you mircea my friend. i hope u will see that i speak truth

01:09:27 mircea_popescu: statistically speaking that's a certainty.

01:09:49 mircea_popescu: see also http://fraudsters.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/

01:09:50 assbot: How to make money on the Internet while pretending you know what you're talking about and accumulating a legion of mindless followers - for fun and profit! on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1InoNBI )

01:09:54 referredbyqntra: arrivederci

01:44:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00057118 = 3.8269 BTC [+] {3}

02:03:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2509 @ 0.00056976 = 1.4295 BTC [-] {3}

02:03:25 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2015#1322809 << neato

02:03:25 assbot: Logged on 13-11-2015 00:44:18; ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform, phf, adlai, gabriel_laddel, shinohai and panzers at large: i've implemented v in common lisp, and would appreciate your eyes on the implementation and perhaps some testing as well: http://cascadianhacker.com/v_cl.tgz.gpg

02:05:22 asciilifeform: ;;later tell ben_vulpes pretty clean for a n00b project! will say more when i get a chance to actually run it.

02:05:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:05:26 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes likes to surprise huh.

02:08:40 *: asciilifeform not surprised

02:16:22 mircea_popescu: shush and be surprised!

02:17:05 asciilifeform: i promise to be surprised when mircea_popescu's fortran 'v' appears

02:17:53 mircea_popescu: hehe

02:18:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.0005723 = 2.5467 BTC [+] {3}

02:18:41 asciilifeform: (and at some point we need incarnation of 'diff' that's not full of tard, yes)

02:19:11 asciilifeform: 'v' as we have it is sorta like those vietnamese swamp houses

02:19:30 mircea_popescu: lol palustre housing

02:25:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00056494 = 3.4744 BTC [-]

02:27:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00056494 = 2.1468 BTC [-]

02:48:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00057294 = 2.0626 BTC [+]

02:51:00 phf: ooh exciting

03:59:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4335 @ 0.00056467 = 2.4478 BTC [-] {2}

04:07:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00056251 = 1.2375 BTC [-]

04:07:59 mircea_popescu: and here's wishing you a happy friday the 13th

04:10:50 *: asciilifeform fondly recalls lulzy film '13th floor'

04:15:39 mircea_popescu: newest fraudsters article is hereby dedicated to asciilifeform, whose lacustre reference inspired me!

04:19:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00055892 = 1.9003 BTC [-] {4}

04:23:14 deedbot-: [fraudsters] And then you never knew what this was... - http://fraudsters.com/2015/and-then-you-never-knew-what-this-was/

04:38:52 *: asciilifeform lacks the necessary lsd to properly absorb this

04:53:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7032 @ 0.00055743 = 3.9198 BTC [-]

04:54:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2568 @ 0.00055241 = 1.4186 BTC [-] {2}

05:40:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0005601 = 1.0642 BTC [+]

05:49:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3854 @ 0.00056278 = 2.169 BTC [+]

06:10:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00056777 = 2.2075 BTC [+]

06:22:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8124 @ 0.00055526 = 4.5109 BTC [-] {2}

06:44:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7218 @ 0.00055146 = 3.9804 BTC [-]

06:51:49 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/06635b98d31d5cc03a93730b9089b526/tumblr_nrgwr3Dv1n1utdlodo1_1280.jpg

06:51:50 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RSUVTw )

06:56:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00055146 = 1.3787 BTC [-]

07:00:25 trinque: http://fraudsters.com/2015/and-then-you-never-knew-what-this-was/ << I can only say that I read it five times and liked it more each.

07:00:26 assbot: And then you never knew what this was... on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OHStS0 )

07:03:18 mircea_popescu: better lsd on the west coast ?

07:04:23 trinque: I think I take your argument that it's not needed now.

07:04:33 trinque: in this there is truly a psychological elsewhere

07:11:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2043 @ 0.00055087 = 1.1254 BTC [-]

07:12:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5157 @ 0.00055006 = 2.8367 BTC [-]

07:14:38 ben_vulpes: wonder of wonders

07:14:57 ben_vulpes: insurance company is covering like 5 days in the hospital

07:16:49 ben_vulpes: ty, asciilifeform! when you get around to it, please please please let me know in which ways i could improve it, or if there are mega-conceptual shifts i could effect within myself to do it better next time.

07:17:07 mircea_popescu: ahh this place brings out the best in people.

07:17:14 mircea_popescu: well... this and the maternity ward, at any rate.

07:21:14 liquidassets: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2015#1321520 <MP you are a fucking trip. I lol'd

07:21:14 assbot: Logged on 10-11-2015 22:56:22; mircea_popescu: i only burned a coupla!

07:21:55 liquidassets: sometimes you bum me out, like depression for days

07:22:50 liquidassets: sorry if not on topic, catching up with some logs as usual

07:24:34 mircea_popescu: lol k

07:25:22 liquidassets: sometimes depression like when you said that guy had no soul from TLP

07:25:30 liquidassets: but other times you come through

07:28:36 liquidassets: sometimes I find myself talking about you with ladyfriend and then she gets it in her head that your "dark" or something, and then I end up defending you, or we end up arguing about it...fucking strange right?

07:29:55 mircea_popescu: actually this happens a lot.

07:33:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.000564 = 2.256 BTC [+]

07:38:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00056089 = 3.1971 BTC [-]

08:06:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10842 @ 0.00056089 = 6.0812 BTC [-]

08:13:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2543 @ 0.00055006 = 1.3988 BTC [-]

08:13:43 ben_vulpes: > nuchal translucency -- 366.00

08:14:09 BingoBoingo: Oh ben_vulpes is itemizing the bebe vulpes bill?

08:14:37 ben_vulpes: no just the retarded bits

08:15:44 BingoBoingo: It's an American hospital bill, you will find many there

08:17:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00054982 = 1.2646 BTC [-]

08:24:03 ben_vulpes: whaack: your alma mater's ip is leaking

08:24:20 ben_vulpes: !up whaack

08:25:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9298 @ 0.00056041 = 5.2107 BTC [+]

08:26:12 ben_vulpes: is that dosser around still?

08:32:20 ben_vulpes: !up moneycat

08:43:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1889 @ 0.00055061 = 1.0401 BTC [-] {3}

09:06:04 liquidassets: seemed like I got kicked off for a second ben_vulpes

10:00:19 liquidassets: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 <<talking with a potential client yesterday interested in 10-40 acre pasture land, apparently raising pigs and finishing them on a diet of acorn yields Jamón ibérico, some crazy expensive pork belly product native to southwestern Spain.

10:00:19 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 18:55:36; ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs.

10:09:32 punkman: liquidassets: legs not belly, quite delicious indeed

10:10:44 liquidassets: really...? he said something like $1000/lb, was it expensive? Where did you try it?

10:11:47 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell asciilifeform Military solution to courts problem? http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/police-woman-sons-attack-trooper-in-store-bathroom/article_7d12db34-8c3b-5b5a-b85c-edc57383d3d8.html

10:11:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1O6HZbO )

10:11:48 gribble: The operation succeeded.

10:12:34 punkman: I remember seeing prices of 50-150+ euros per kilo in spain, but not sure if the cheaper ones were Iberico

10:13:03 punkman: curing meat for 2-3 years probably takes some dedication

10:28:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00053727 = 3.0087 BTC [-] {2}

11:28:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00053727 = 3.7072 BTC [-]

11:37:45 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-11-2015#1322645 http://buyacornflour.com/ ?

11:37:45 assbot: Logged on 12-11-2015 18:55:36; ben_vulpes: my limited research only turned up a wee bit of acorn based products, mostly asian 'speciality' foods. and i want it milled, not transparent slabs.

11:37:46 assbot: Acorn ... ( http://bit.ly/1NPs0QX )

11:38:35 shinohai: Acorn biscotti is quite good, imho

11:46:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00053757 = 3.0641 BTC [+]

11:55:09 shinohai: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Sexting-arrest-latest-embarrassment-for-Secret-6629235.php

11:55:09 assbot: Sexting arrest latest embarrassment for Secret Service - Houston Chronicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1SNsR4T )

11:58:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00053944 = 3.7761 BTC [+] {2}

12:42:13 punkman: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3sn1og/call_out_to_owner_of_btc_address/cwyt30e

12:42:15 assbot: formerdigguser comments on Call out to owner of BTC address 16h9587CZLsyLGqH81QVJSkFwqyY1AuWRH ... ( http://bit.ly/1NPAWG5 )

13:02:26 BingoBoingo: lol

13:39:40 shinohai: !s http://www.zdnet.com/article/brazilian-army-gets-hacked/

13:39:41 assbot: Brazilian Army gets hacked | ZDNet ... ( http://bit.ly/1N1velz )

13:39:42 assbot: 0 results for 'http://www.zdnet.com/article/brazilian-army-gets-hacked/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zdnet.com%2Farticle%2Fbrazilian-army-gets-hacked%2F

14:12:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00054055 = 1.8379 BTC [+] {2}

14:22:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00054511 = 5.1785 BTC [+] {2}

14:41:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9969 @ 0.00053727 = 5.356 BTC [-] {2}

14:51:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00053727 = 1.9073 BTC [-]

14:55:12 mircea_popescu: hmmm... listen, is it me or have the us protestors forgotten the ancient art of the molotov cocktail "?

14:55:22 mircea_popescu: i've not seen a single one, wtf is this ?

14:55:36 mircea_popescu: tlp's "throw rocks" is an EUPHEMISM. you're not throwing fuelbombs, you'll lose.

14:57:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00053727 = 3.2773 BTC [-]

14:58:13 BingoBoingo: They forgot. Apparently in ferguson there were unsuccessful attemps

14:59:38 mircea_popescu: darn.

14:59:45 mircea_popescu: well, ima write a monograph, one minute.

15:00:15 BingoBoingo: Seems like they googled and got disinfo recipes

15:07:26 thestringpuller: don't think a rioter has thrown a molotov cocktail in the US since rodney king

15:08:39 shinohai: I find the orange juice napalm recipe from fight club works nice with a more ignition-friendly 2:1 ratio is used.

15:11:53 thestringpuller: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/20/fed-raises-possibility-of-negative-interest-rates.html << oldie but another reason to GTFO the US

15:13:05 mircea_popescu: stop putting shit in your drinks.

15:13:35 mircea_popescu: it's called a "cocktail" IRONICALLY. because yes, people from my place ~~~invented~~~ this "irony" bullshit.

15:13:46 mircea_popescu: unlike the ustards they also know how to use it, but besides the point

15:13:55 punkman: orange juice?

15:14:24 mircea_popescu: !s disinfo recipes

15:14:24 assbot: 0 results for 'disinfo recipes' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=disinfo+recipes

15:14:28 mircea_popescu: orly.

15:16:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1862 @ 0.00053727 = 1.0004 BTC [-]

15:24:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why would the muppeteers burn their own capital ?

15:25:18 mircea_popescu: you and your retroactive reasoning.

15:45:07 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2015#1322984 << could've sworn we had this thread

15:45:07 assbot: Logged on 13-11-2015 15:14:24; mircea_popescu: !s disinfo recipes

15:45:31 asciilifeform: re: the idiot publishers censoring basic craft from novels

15:46:04 mircea_popescu: aha

15:52:47 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2015/a-blast-from-the-past-or-the-molotov-cocktail-guide-this-is-how-you-win/ << anyone wanna spellcheck this ?

15:52:48 assbot: A Blast From The Past, or, The Molotov Cocktail Guide. This is how you win. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HMUhkM )

15:58:24 asciilifeform: 'A taser delivers ~10 Joules per hit, a Molotov Cocktail delivers ~270`000 Joules per hit, you do the math.' << mno. mostly heats the air. just like when you burn the same petrol in an engine.

15:58:38 asciilifeform: if it delivered 270kJ you wouldn't need artillery.

15:59:50 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: galons -> gallons?

15:59:56 mircea_popescu: let them do the math!

16:00:13 mircea_popescu: ahe thestringpuller

16:00:21 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other thing is that a good petrol bomb includes a gelling agent

16:00:36 asciilifeform: e.g., the styrofoam that was replaced with 'orange juice' by palahniuk's publisher

16:00:47 asciilifeform: otherwise it tends to spread uselessly

16:00:49 mircea_popescu: think the plastic in the bottle's not gonna be enough ?

16:00:50 asciilifeform: and can be washed off

16:01:05 asciilifeform: the bottle does not melt very quickly

16:01:09 mircea_popescu: this is a point.

16:01:14 mircea_popescu: im adding packing peanuts.

16:01:24 punkman: glass bottle might be better

16:01:31 asciilifeform: srsly this is what, three quarters of a century-old tech

16:01:35 asciilifeform: not mega-s33kr1t

16:01:57 mircea_popescu: punkman worse, not so available.

16:02:04 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so. beer.

16:02:08 asciilifeform: today as it was then.

16:02:37 punkman: a lot of beer :P

16:02:39 asciilifeform: and glass bottles were used in ww2 su. lets you use phosphorus or some other fulminating agent to touch the thing off

16:03:01 asciilifeform: (don't drop yer rucksack)

16:03:04 *: shinohai finds no notable spelling errors in mircea_popescu 's article, enjoyed it.

16:03:42 asciilifeform: the aspiring diversante is advised to see to it that his peanuts actually dissolve

16:03:43 davout: easier to screw a cap on a plastic bottle tho

16:03:48 mircea_popescu: done.

16:03:56 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, aluminum

16:03:58 asciilifeform: (iirc there are materials - tyvek? - which will not)

16:04:21 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plenty of glass beer bottles in usa

16:04:21 mircea_popescu: ah good point

16:04:32 *: asciilifeform has never once drank it out of aluminum

16:05:14 asciilifeform: at any rate, i predict that no one will throw petrol bombs in usa, until after it becomes 'fusa'

16:05:21 asciilifeform: (like fussr)

16:07:01 mircea_popescu: aaand updated.

16:07:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what people do is really besides the point.

16:07:53 asciilifeform: 'salvation of the drowning is work for the hands of the selfsame drowning' (tm) (r) (ru church)

16:09:22 deedbot-: [fraudsters] A Blast From The Past, or, The Molotov Cocktail Guide. This is how you win. - http://fraudsters.com/2015/a-blast-from-the-past-or-the-molotov-cocktail-guide-this-is-how-you-win/

16:11:04 mircea_popescu: epic how the rss feed delay worked this time

16:11:10 mircea_popescu: i got all the changes in just in timwe

16:12:14 asciilifeform: no photo of packing peanuts ?

16:12:15 asciilifeform: l0l

16:12:18 mircea_popescu: lol

16:13:22 asciilifeform: iirc the other reason for the thickening agent is to avoid 'leidenfrost effect'

16:13:35 asciilifeform: where the petrol harmlessly boils off

16:14:05 mircea_popescu: vapor insulator ?

16:14:08 punkman: plastic bottle doesn't break, how will it spread the gas when thrown?

16:14:12 mircea_popescu: not summer anymore, but yeah

16:14:18 mircea_popescu: punkman it melts.

16:14:36 punkman: so it lands and rolls around, then melts?

16:14:49 mircea_popescu: it melts in flight if you're any good.

16:15:09 asciilifeform: plastic is a poor choice unless target is stationary (e.g., the glass window of a nazi office).

16:15:13 asciilifeform: it will roll harmlessly off a tank.

16:15:30 mircea_popescu: you ever seen this ?

16:15:57 mircea_popescu: the straw is there so you adjust for flight distance.

16:16:21 punkman: sawdust is also an old staple, according to local lore at least

16:16:35 mircea_popescu: yeah but where are they gonna get sawdust.

16:16:42 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't that it is entirely unworkable, but this takes you back to the 18th century, before impact detonator was a thing

16:17:05 mircea_popescu: so let them develop some skill.

16:17:14 asciilifeform: 'assembly line with phd'

16:17:22 mircea_popescu: no.

16:17:37 mircea_popescu: "naturally arisisng social hierarchy".

16:17:59 mircea_popescu: you want the dumbass "community organizers" to run into a group of people who have built natural respect for skill, tested in the field.

16:18:27 mircea_popescu: unlike the usg, that works a little for itself and the rest for us, i work for us. the whole way.

16:18:46 asciilifeform: if this existed in usa today, it would look like usa circa 1950 and there'd be no question of 'which bottle'

16:19:14 mircea_popescu: i dun believe either that if stands or it'd matter if it stood.

16:19:24 mircea_popescu: horribru disease, counterfactualism.

16:19:29 asciilifeform: as it is, courage XOR skill. presently.

16:28:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6109 @ 0.00055167 = 3.3702 BTC [+] {2}

16:40:53 *: mircea_popescu is kinda pleased nobody picked on ho-fficer as a misspelling.

16:48:45 thestringpuller: is this why we don't use flamethrowers anymore?

16:53:46 thestringpuller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_LWQQrpSc4 << Funny how Disney got it right.

16:55:02 kakobrekla: handsome pilot is no longer handsome http://www.demilked.com/social-changes-best-word-book-ever-richard-scarry/

16:55:03 assbot: 25+ Changes That Were Made To Your Favorite Childhood Book To Keep Up With The Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1lna5WW )

16:59:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00055844 = 4.5513 BTC [+] {2}

17:11:20 funkenstein_: for those interested in setting up 25 cent vps nodes: buildroot needs more than 512 M ram to build toolchain

17:12:32 kakobrekla: 25 cent ? what, per hour ?

17:14:09 mircea_popescu: how much does it need ?

17:14:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10141 @ 0.0005584 = 5.6627 BTC [-]

17:14:37 funkenstein_: not sure. probably better to build elsewhere and pass it in?

17:14:45 mircea_popescu: usually how it's done.

17:15:01 funkenstein_: did i mention i'm a slow learner?

17:15:29 *: funkenstein_ applauds molotov instruction

17:16:01 mircea_popescu: hehe. now go share it.

17:16:26 funkenstein_: kakobrekla, 25 cents per 36 hours or so :D

17:17:19 funkenstein_: y'all might be interested in this guy's promotion of roll your own crypto: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/NSAchallenge.php

17:17:20 assbot: Rivero challenges the NSA | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ... ( http://bit.ly/1lncqBb )

17:45:17 BingoBoingo: This is what happens to people who don't read qntra: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-county-man-is-rd-charged-with-social-media/article_6e950e58-9e8c-53af-80b2-f23ff8211b16.html

17:45:18 assbot: St. Louis County man is 3rd charged with social media threats amid Mizzou tumult : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lneMQq )

17:47:46 shinohai: "Yik Yak is basically a bathroom stall," <<< <3

17:50:13 BingoBoingo: No it isn't. Bathroom stalls don't snitch to the popo

17:51:50 BingoBoingo: !up hdbuck

17:53:46 hdbuck: hey

17:54:51 hdbuck: mircea_popescu the future… https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/autoblow-2-a-robotic-oral-sex-simulator-for-men#/

17:54:52 assbot: Autoblow 2: A Robotic Oral Sex Simulator For Men | Indiegogo ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y9oZOp )

17:55:44 hdbuck: yeah baby http://www.vaginacontest.com/

17:55:45 assbot: The Autoblow's Vaginal Beauty Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y9p7xj )

17:55:59 punkman: funkenstein_: kakobrekla, 25 cents per 36 hours or so :D << I've seen some for 50 cents / month

17:58:32 mircea_popescu: mmm

18:01:01 punkman: http://www.vaginacontest.com/profilePhotos/N20QnNell.jpg

18:01:03 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1lnfP2G )

18:12:04 mircea_popescu: that is a vulva.

18:12:41 mircea_popescu: but #whatever, me approves of the way we've been moving window. few years ago it was tits for money, now it's cunt for free.

18:13:32 kakobrekla: i think you still run tits for money thing.

18:14:03 mircea_popescu: so i do.

18:15:01 kakobrekla: perhaps it needs an update. show me your cunt and ill allow you to write xyz on your tits, or something.

18:16:45 mircea_popescu: lol

18:21:00 BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in Ohio https://i.sli.mg/QVxEBb.jpg

18:21:01 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1lnh4io )

18:23:56 mircea_popescu: ha

18:26:14 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/fbnaIeX.png

18:26:15 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1lnhq8P )

18:41:49 jurov: !t m s.mpoe

18:41:49 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00053727 / 0.00055708 / 0.00057294 (345824 shares, 192.65 BTC), 7D: 0.00053146 / 0.00055263 / 0.00057294 (9320869 shares, 5,151.02 BTC), 30D: 0.0004711 / 0.00053681 / 0.00057294 (54253380 shares, 29,123.94 BTC)

18:44:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00054486 = 1.6891 BTC [-] {2}

19:24:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4585 @ 0.00054315 = 2.4903 BTC [-] {2}

19:29:05 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2015#1323070 << for those interested in eating in dumpsters: broken glass is sharp and doesn't taste very good

19:29:05 assbot: Logged on 13-11-2015 17:11:20; funkenstein_: for those interested in setting up 25 cent vps nodes: buildroot needs more than 512 M ram to build toolchain

19:29:35 BingoBoingo: Doesn't taste very bad either. Very neutral taste

19:29:52 asciilifeform: if you like the taste of own blood

19:30:18 asciilifeform: what is it with this expectation people have that 'vps' etc is usable.

19:30:23 asciilifeform: esp. for 25c

19:32:24 BingoBoingo: The blood has its own taste, merely incidental to the glass consumption.

19:33:25 deedbot-: [Qntra] Colorado Springs Drops Police Fitness Tests After Suit - http://qntra.net/2015/11/colorado-springs-drops-police-fitness-tests-after-suit/

19:36:48 mircea_popescu: this is good for fatcoin.

19:37:07 mircea_popescu: and in culture clash news, http://fraudsters.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-october-2015-statement/#comment-115867

19:37:07 assbot: BitBet (S.BBET) October 2015 Statement on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nvn7YJ )

19:37:29 BingoBoingo: Seriously. May the MayoGendered and Law Enforcement in the United States unify in morbid obesity.

19:38:41 mircea_popescu: what to do in argentina while awaiting for plumber ?

19:38:49 mircea_popescu: take a long hot shower secure in the knowledge they won't show up.

19:39:14 asciilifeform: do mircea_popescu's pets shit gravel, or what. much plumber.

19:39:22 mircea_popescu: much place.

19:39:35 asciilifeform: 'n-engined airplane theorem' ?

19:39:42 asciilifeform: (n engines, n*c engine problems)

19:39:43 mircea_popescu: something like that.

19:40:18 mircea_popescu: no money, no problems. always remember.

19:40:50 asciilifeform: wut

19:41:03 mircea_popescu: aha.

19:53:15 *: BingoBoingo wonders how asciilifeform would handle sudden wealth in the form of 2000 BTC, a 20lb gold dumbell (encased in vinyl for concealment), and a duffel bag full of $20 dollar bills.

19:53:39 BingoBoingo: Since the $20's aren't benjies they can be spent

19:53:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the same way i would handle monkeys flooding out of my arse while the sky turns fluorescent purple

19:55:52 BingoBoingo: So panic?

19:56:19 asciilifeform: so NULL

19:56:31 BingoBoingo: I was kinda hoping the answer would have been sprat boat

19:56:32 asciilifeform: or, if you prefer,

19:56:33 asciilifeform: nil

19:56:42 asciilifeform: or for 'scheme' aficionados, #f

19:57:19 punkman: but world is javascript, so "undefined"

19:57:20 BingoBoingo: How do you know the lizards now aren't going to make the monkeys and sky thing happen to you nao

19:58:20 jurov: alf would indeed surmise these things must have come from lizard hitler

19:58:55 BingoBoingo: I'm pretty sure "arse monkeys" is now on a requisition form somewhere in fort Meade

20:00:46 *: BingoBoingo thinking now if it would count if the monkeys were blended and used in an enema

20:01:56 jurov: BingoBoingo: check for any weird substances in your drink?

20:02:40 BingoBoingo: Maybe it's just the sobriety thing getting in my head

20:06:06 BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2011/09/29/hugo_chavez_caption_contest/Colbert_censorship_GIF.gif.CROP.original-original.gif

20:06:08 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1kuFFSq )

20:23:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12738 @ 0.00054384 = 6.9274 BTC [+] {6}

20:31:24 jurov: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a57_1264994259 O.o

20:31:25 assbot: LiveLeak.com - Best Action Scene Of ALL TIME ... ( http://bit.ly/1WX21HT )

20:45:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00054657 = 1.0385 BTC [+] {2}

21:08:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4273 @ 0.00054657 = 2.3355 BTC [+] {2}

21:16:12 ben_vulpes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Panda-Small-Mini-Dryer-5-5lbs-2-5kg-Compact-Apartment-Dryer-Pan725sf-New-/301640663755?hash=item463b2f42cb:g:aYoAAOSweW5VXhZa << breakeven with the "on site" quarter-driven driver is some 173 loads, minus the value of being able to dry infantwear on demand.

21:16:13 assbot: Panda Small Mini Dryer-5.5lbs/2.5kg Compact Apartment Dryer Pan725sf New ... ( http://bit.ly/1RUpybl )

21:16:17 ben_vulpes: ah, the poverty of my generation.

21:42:29 jurov: https://securelist.com/analysis/publications/72652/beaches-carnivals-and-cybercrime-a-look-inside-the-brazilian-underground/ <<< the marketplace for alf's exploits :D

21:42:34 assbot: Beaches, carnivals and cybercrime: a look inside the Brazilian underground - Securelist ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQUJF0 )

21:42:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4981 @ 0.00053512 = 2.6654 BTC [-] {2}

21:42:45 asciilifeform: jurov: mno

21:42:54 asciilifeform: jurov: the market place for ~other folks'~ exploits.

21:44:09 pete_dushenski: ;;seen chetty

21:44:09 gribble: chetty was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 24 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <chetty> perhaps this will backlash into getting more people off windows ...nah, I dream

21:44:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10219 @ 0.00053396 = 5.4565 BTC [-] {3}

21:45:10 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell chetty you game for in an interview re: eulora ? i have a bitcoin-themed podcast who's interested :)

21:45:10 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:46:32 pete_dushenski: said podcast, "let's talk bitcoin" may also be interested in talking to BingoBoingo and asciilifeform regarding their respective projects.

21:46:41 asciilifeform: bawhat

21:46:45 asciilifeform: l0l

21:46:50 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: THIS IS PR!

21:46:56 asciilifeform: they know where to find us forfuckssake

21:47:04 asciilifeform: ~HERE~

21:48:37 *: pete_dushenski has the sneaking suspicion that he's going to find myself as a guest on podcast. because tmsr doesn't do vocal chords.

21:50:22 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: could you be persuaded to represent qntra for a voice interview ?

21:54:29 pete_dushenski: kk scratch the voice idea. interviewers will come here.

21:54:35 pete_dushenski: i dunno what's wrong with my head.

21:55:07 pete_dushenski: trying to manage "the people" using my tsmr head will take some sorting otu

21:55:11 pete_dushenski: out*

21:56:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.0005319 = 4.7871 BTC [-]

22:05:51 mircea_popescu: apropos de nothing, http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/universities_have_become_totalitarian_gulags.html

22:05:52 assbot: Articles: Universities Have Become Totalitarian Gulags ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqkUli )

22:07:07 hdbuck: shit hitting the fan in paris

22:07:26 mircea_popescu: hdbuck those dudes know all about burning cars huh.

22:07:53 pete_dushenski: hdbuck: what's the fuss this time ?

22:08:17 hdbuck: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html

22:08:18 assbot: Paris shooting: Several killed and injured after 'Kalashnikov and grenade attacks' across French capital - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqlnUC )

22:08:21 hdbuck: ‘on going'

22:08:36 mircea_popescu: je suis charlie un poco mas ?

22:08:41 asciilifeform: for piiiiigleeet!!!

22:10:37 hdbuck: 40 deaths?? Oo

22:10:40 mircea_popescu: oh look art that, telegraph doesn't actually load a usable page.

22:10:45 mircea_popescu: i guess the frfench stuff never happened.

22:13:52 *: hdbuck wonders if the OCP21 thingy will be cancelled.

22:15:00 pete_dushenski: what's that?

22:15:29 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: where was the podcast thing or whatever it was

22:15:42 pete_dushenski: also, what's going to be the "paris of the west" once paris is part of the "east" ?

22:16:17 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/

22:16:20 assbot: Home | Lets Talk Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqmTpN )

22:16:36 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: which issue ?

22:17:12 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the interviews haven't been done yet ?

22:17:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6740 @ 0.00053658 = 3.6165 BTC [+] {2}

22:17:20 asciilifeform: well no shit

22:17:27 asciilifeform: but where did pete_dushenski get the idea that they wanted any

22:17:41 pete_dushenski: asked.

22:17:54 asciilifeform: hm ok

22:17:56 asciilifeform: let'em come here.

22:24:08 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: podcast folks typically expect a voice track, yes. and now that i think about it, i've heard a dozen or so episodes of this one. quite mediocre (shilled for gavin, hearn, et al) but as i recall - quite popular.

22:24:22 asciilifeform: so if you feel like preaching to the heathens, go for it.

22:25:14 pete_dushenski: i'm proposing that they come here and, if they so desire, have a voice actor play the role of interviewee for the program

22:25:19 pete_dushenski: they also have a blog so there's that

22:25:24 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski does this thing have to be oral ?

22:25:26 pete_dushenski: and yes, reasonably popular

22:25:38 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'm trying to work around it. tbd.

22:26:55 phf: have interview on #b-a, have a dramatic reading version for podcasters

22:27:09 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2015#1323187 << updated, '40 dead... grenades ... pump-action shotgun' etc

22:27:09 assbot: Logged on 13-11-2015 22:08:17; hdbuck: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html

22:27:12 mircea_popescu: tell you what, if it IS a podcast they can do the interview in writing here like sane people, then i'll pay some slut to read my lines out into a mic.

22:27:19 asciilifeform: ^

22:27:23 mircea_popescu: gimicky enough to actually add value to their shit anyway.

22:27:28 pete_dushenski: 'stan, of cardano fame, played by james earl jones

22:27:31 hdbuck: true true

22:28:04 *: asciilifeform does not have very much to say to podcast people

22:28:15 hdbuck: eh anyway, was quite a bummer, now, im just getting way used to this shit. what a world.

22:28:32 mircea_popescu: o look, phf had my idea, only a minute eartlier.

22:35:14 phf: i like the slut version, but it has to sound really bubbly and vapid. i was thinking have actors impersonators, morgan freeman, clint eastwood, christopher walken

22:35:41 jurov: sexysaffron can do it, complete with video

22:36:29 pete_dushenski: video doesn't do much here

22:36:43 mircea_popescu: you ever heard sesame or whats her name phf ?

22:37:17 mircea_popescu: and if you think i'm paying for some non b-a outlet to have morgan freeman read shit out loud you're off your rocker.

22:37:31 mircea_popescu: for one thing, the old derp's on the index list for supporting libertard notions.

22:37:38 pete_dushenski: l0l

22:38:44 mircea_popescu: d'oh. anyone thinks they're an actor and said anything that can vaguely be interpreted in the direction of supporting libertard policy, they're gonna wish they said they support child fucking with farm implements instead.

22:38:48 mircea_popescu: better for their career.

22:39:09 pete_dushenski: so much for james cameron directing the next b-a flick

22:39:15 pete_dushenski: tarantino ftw

22:39:30 mircea_popescu: tarantino all the way.

22:39:47 phf: sesame?

22:39:50 pete_dushenski: you see that his next flick is 70mm ultra pano ?

22:40:20 pete_dushenski: !s hateful eight

22:40:21 assbot: 2 results for 'hateful eight' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hateful+eight

22:40:40 pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/12/movies/tarantinos-the-hateful-eight-resurrects-nearly-obsolete-technology.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

22:40:43 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sqr3h7 )

22:42:04 pete_dushenski: "“We’ve been accused of actually cornering the market on 70-millimeter projectors,” Mr. Cutler said. “It’s probably pretty true. There probably aren’t too many out there that we didn’t find.” Most of them were destroyed, he added, during the conversion to digital projection."

22:42:10 pete_dushenski: "“The Hateful Eight” is not just any 70-millimeter movie: It is only the 10th feature to make full use of shooting in Ultra Panavision, an extra-wide format, but it will actually have the technology’s largest opening in terms of screen numbers."

22:43:15 *: pete_dushenski to go pick up saddam from mechanic then to dinner. later !

22:51:54 hdbuck: http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/11-overflow/20151113_paris2.jpg

22:51:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HIbXTV )

22:53:53 hdbuck: US equity *futures*

23:02:10 mircea_popescu: hey, lower than ethereum even.

23:23:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00053773 = 1.7207 BTC [+] {2}

23:41:21 hdbuck: https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/665298393833451520/photo/1

23:54:18 mircea_popescu: phf my bad, saffron

23:55:34 *: jurov giggles every time mp tries to remember her name

23:59:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5734 @ 0.00054691 = 3.136 BTC [+] {4}