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00:11:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 49 @ 0.0141001 = 0.6909 BTC [-]

00:24:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.01679599 = 0.5039 BTC [+] {3}

00:40:50 mircea_popescu: looking at this data, bitcoin is just about the largest one thing on freenode.

00:43:06 mike_c: what's bigger?

00:46:40 mircea_popescu: depends how you count, but not really much.

00:47:06 mircea_popescu: http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/medien-mehr-als-ein-dutzend-spione-in-ministerien-13042586.html

00:47:06 assbot: Medien: Mehr als ein Dutzend Spione in Ministerien

00:47:13 mircea_popescu: apparently zee germans found some spies

00:53:39 mircea_popescu: mike_c the best part is where wikipedia and darkcoin are about the same size.

00:53:42 mircea_popescu: lulzy mcloll.

00:54:24 mike_c: wow

00:55:18 mircea_popescu: a little ahead of... dwarf frothress

00:55:25 mircea_popescu: or w/e the pixel fountain is called.

00:58:18 mircea_popescu: and since we're on the lulz,

00:58:19 mircea_popescu: "Built and operated in the United States, Bittrex is the next generation crypto trading platform created by security professionals. We are crypto-coin enthusiasts bringing more than 50 years of combined security and development experience to the trading community from companies, including Microsoft, Amazon, Qualys, and BlackBerry.

00:58:20 mircea_popescu: Given the recent security breaches and reliability issues experienced by other markets, we felt the community deserved better. If virtual currencies are to truly take off, trustworthy infrastructure is a prerequisite."

00:59:06 mircea_popescu: * Topic for #bittrex is: richie doesn't know how to send emails OR use topics...

01:01:09 mircea_popescu: !up BayAreaCoins

01:01:34 BayAreaCoins: Thanks man. How are you doing today?

01:02:51 mircea_popescu: as good as can be expected i guess.

01:03:16 BayAreaCoins: Another day of the life eh ;)

01:03:52 mircea_popescu: so how's the bay area for coins ?

01:07:33 BayAreaCoins: Going pretty good man. I'm kind of in that limbo stage of waiting on nerdos to finish up code... Feel like that has been the story of my life for 4-6 months :)

01:08:30 BayAreaCoins: I think once all of it comes together... well it will come together :P Just kind of selling a gun or two while I wait. I need a new bag because I'm sorta bored with everything atm.. Life :D

01:09:00 BayAreaCoins: How is Romania for coins? Pretty wide usage over there?

01:09:10 mircea_popescu: i'm in... argentina.

01:09:58 mike_c: what are the nerdos working on?

01:11:02 BayAreaCoins: mike_c A automated drop shipping company and then a alt that I think is semi interesting (Huntercoin)

01:11:45 mike_c: automated drop shipping of what? you got warehouses or connections to suppliers?

01:11:48 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu ah very nice. I think if I was going to live in South America I'd be looking at Belize (ambergris caye.) Any reason why you chose Argentina over the other countries?

01:12:36 mircea_popescu: well, it seemed cooler, basically.

01:13:03 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu haha hell ya

01:16:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.19000949 = 5.7003 BTC [-] {8}

01:16:47 mircea_popescu: <mol> !worth 1

01:16:47 mircea_popescu: <elbzonet[drkbot]> mol: 1.0 DRK @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal|53s) = 0.010474 BTC / 6.66 USD (source:bitstamp:40s)

01:16:47 mircea_popescu: <mol> !mnstats

01:16:47 mircea_popescu: <elbzonet[drkbot]> mol: 673 active masternodes (source:elbzone|8m6s) @ 0.01047380 DRK/BTC (source:mintpal|1m4s) = 7048.87 BTC / 4490058.05 USD in stake (source:bitstamp|55s)

01:16:51 BayAreaCoins: mike_c No need for warehouses or partnerships to start out with. Basically what the company is going to do is relist items with a very small price bump and automate everything. We have been testing with 200 items for the past little bit and are seeing a good chunk of volume moving. I guess my main concern is that the shippers do their job because refunds are going to be a total and complete pain in the ass.

01:16:53 mircea_popescu: darkcoin is so shitting lulzy

01:17:05 thestringpuller: ;;define equanimity

01:17:05 gribble: Error: "define" is not a valid command.

01:17:10 thestringpuller: ;;google equanimity

01:17:10 gribble: Equanimity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equanimity; Equanimity - Merriam-Webster Online: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/equanimity; Equanimity | Define Equanimity at Dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/equanimity

01:17:14 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins is this your first attempt ?

01:17:43 thestringpuller: sounds like bitcoinshop.us ......

01:17:52 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu at a automated drop shipping company? Yes it is

01:18:00 thestringpuller: you might as well just buy an amazon gift card off of GYFT

01:18:54 mike_c: good luck, it's a crowded field. got a website up?

01:19:44 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins well then you won't be too surprised we just expect you to fail and learn from the experience ?

01:20:43 BayAreaCoins: mike_c not yet, still working on the code. Drop shipping Amazon from Ebay to start out with. Domain is locked down and I submitted articles of organization last night.

01:21:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18510001 = 0.9255 BTC [-]

01:21:42 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I never go into anything expecting to fail, but if I do that is why I have the LLC up :P

01:22:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18251127 = 1.4601 BTC [-] {4}

01:22:17 BayAreaCoins: Can't live life in fear of failure or you'll never take the chance you need to succeed. If I had a nickle for every time I fucked up... I'd have far more nickles than I do now ;)

01:22:20 mircea_popescu: i guess an automated online auction scalper isn't the absolute worst first project someone may try.

01:23:41 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu No inventor and no employees that is always a plus. It'll be interesting needless to say. Our ebay lister is stacked with 24,000 items, but getting ebay to up our limits is a bit of a pain in the ass.

01:26:10 BayAreaCoins: What are you guys investing in BTC wise as of late? Losing JD has me a bit lost on the BTC investment side. Although, I'm balls deep in a alt I think has a good chance.

01:26:25 mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/mEhgyHdV << i do something like this maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe once a year. this is what i get.

01:26:25 assbot: * Now talking on #bittrex * Topic for #bittrex is: richie doesn't know how to s - Pastebin.com

01:27:15 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins there's fmpif which is roughly similar.

01:28:58 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/877/difficulty-over-21bn-by-summers-end-2014/ << 21bn huh.

01:28:58 assbot: BitBet - Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014 :: 12.38 B (94%) on Yes, 0.78 B (6%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 52`857 (100`000 to 3)

01:29:19 mike_c: ;;bc,stats

01:29:21 gribble: Current Blocks: 310477 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 2002 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 0 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17408856848.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.41843

01:30:09 mircea_popescu: tempting as hell.

01:33:53 mike_c: still looking good for Monday? i'm getting an idiff itch.

01:37:04 mircea_popescu: !up BayAreaCoins

01:37:11 BayAreaCoins: Thank you kindly

01:37:32 mircea_popescu: mike_c so far. you never know with these things until you get to test them

01:41:50 BayAreaCoins: Mostly in the Altcoin world I'm just trying to keep my holdings of HUC @ 5-10% of the O/S... I feel like ever since DOGE it has just exploded with shit on shit that is topped off with shit.

01:42:05 mircea_popescu: you don't say.

01:42:40 mike_c: "a human mine-able crypto currency" you know some people around here think BTC is human mineable.

01:44:13 BayAreaCoins: I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs. Which I've got my fingers cross will bring more people into the crypto currency scene. It is at least different and the devs are know.

01:44:37 BayAreaCoins: Only thing that is semi tough is the need for HUC to start out mining HUC. Which is a good thing too at the same time.

01:44:56 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu do you think we will continue to see this horrible trend of shit on shit?

01:45:03 mircea_popescu: human minable, i don't understand.

01:46:25 BayAreaCoins: www.Huntercoin.info that is the block chain. 90% of the coins are distributed via the "game" inside the wallet. To keep the network secure 5% Sha-256 and 5% Scrypt (dual merge mining.)

01:46:54 mircea_popescu: why would you suspect humans are playing the game inside the wallet ?

01:47:10 BayAreaCoins: I would suspect humans and bots.

01:48:12 BayAreaCoins: I'm more interested in the mining power behind it and the networks on going security. Total supply : * 2734040 HUC Hashrate : * sha256 : 2 818.74TH/s * scrypt : 13.30GH/s

01:48:32 BayAreaCoins: It has a long way to go though and some problems to be address

01:48:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1020 @ 0.00245009 = 2.4991 BTC [-]

01:50:19 mircea_popescu: i don't understand how dual sha-scrypt improves security.

01:50:29 mircea_popescu: in pricniple it should lower it to the security of the lowest of the two

01:51:49 BayAreaCoins: I'm not 100% sure, but I'm going to go a head and pass that question along as well because I'd be interest in the response. Shits n giggles ya know

01:52:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.181 = 1.991 BTC [-]

01:53:22 BayAreaCoins: I've seen their web base browser play that will allow people to instantly start "mining" though game play. Right now to sync the wallet is... well.. fucking huge to say it nicely. Probably has the largest bloat of any coin their is.

01:53:33 BayAreaCoins: there is* ffs

01:53:42 BayAreaCoins: NMC is a bitch to sync too though

01:53:58 mircea_popescu: !s reddit

01:53:59 assbot: 838 results for 'reddit' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=reddit

01:54:49 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu you a big reddit fan? :P

01:55:12 mircea_popescu: mnop

01:56:44 BayAreaCoins: mnop?

01:56:52 mircea_popescu: sort of like a mumbled no.

01:57:03 BayAreaCoins: Kinda figured that hahaha :D

01:57:26 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu so still not big on the Off Shore Paper Wallet idea either eh?!

01:57:39 mircea_popescu: what idea whas that again ?

01:58:43 BayAreaCoins: Basically exactly what it sounds like. Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws. Therefore giving the world the ability to chose which country they store their coins in safely.

01:58:54 BayAreaCoins: Jumping jurisdictions with coins pretty much

02:01:27 BayAreaCoins: Maybe there is something already like that that I am unaware of as well though

02:05:46 mircea_popescu: why would anyone bother with this ?

02:07:44 mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/depreshibe

02:07:45 assbot: A place for Depressed shibes to chat about things and vent

02:07:48 mircea_popescu: this still exists!

02:08:49 mircea_popescu: !up BayAreaCoins

02:09:16 BayAreaCoins: LOL ooo dogecoin bahaha Thank good ole Klye and dooglus for that one :D I gave away so many millions of DOGE in JD chat.

02:09:42 mircea_popescu: for a total of < 1 btc ?

02:09:52 BayAreaCoins: haha probably ish ;)

02:10:10 BayAreaCoins: Got 140BTC out of 100 million of them though about

02:10:19 BayAreaCoins: Not to shaby for a months work

02:10:33 mircea_popescu: "I am a 23 yr M, diagnosed Bi-Polar:NoS with a history of Mixed States. Or, in other words, I faily to cope with my body's confusion on being manic and depressed at the same time, causing an abundance of frustration that turns to almost uncontrollable anger. I currently live with my fiancee, we are to be married this year, at the end of September, I'm on permanent disability for a variety of mental incapacitates."

02:10:44 mircea_popescu: why would a woman fiancee some 23 yo guy like that ?

02:10:54 mircea_popescu: this has got to be the bottom of the bottomless pit of gold digging

02:10:56 BayAreaCoins: Bitches love problems of course

02:10:58 mircea_popescu: like a lead digger

02:11:31 BayAreaCoins: But let me jump back to that off shore paper wallet thing really quick if you don't mind.

02:12:49 BayAreaCoins: I think a number of people in my country (America) are very very interested about how to bank "off shore", but they don't have the proper contacts. I believe if this was set up it would give people the ability to go off shore within a hour of deciding they wanted to (by using btc, also the extra $ flowing in isn't going to kill any of us either)

02:12:58 BayAreaCoins: Do you not see that in Europe as much?

02:13:06 BayAreaCoins: and Argentina

02:14:05 mircea_popescu: you seem to think "people" is a thing. "people" is not a thing, but at least two : the people who don't matter, and the people who, if they feel like it, fly over here, open a bank box and bang a coupla hotties the same night

02:14:12 mircea_popescu: for any value of *here*

02:14:28 mircea_popescu: now why would a lawyer want to be involved with group A, and why would group B want to share with a lawyer ?

02:16:07 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I've already contacted a few firms and they of course want to be involved for the same reason as any other law firms wants to be involved with anything.. Money. I think that group B would want to privately be involved with group A because it is better than having some FEDs come grab your lap top while you are reading in the Sci-Fi section

02:16:37 mircea_popescu: methinks mebbe re-read what i said ?

02:16:46 BayAreaCoins: ah ok 1 sec

02:18:14 BayAreaCoins: I totally agree about the two people thing. Group a = Myself and group B = potential customers?

02:18:36 mircea_popescu: no.

02:18:43 mircea_popescu: a = poor people ; b = rich people.

02:21:04 mircea_popescu: you know, dear #bitcoin-assets, my short walk around the other freenode chans has really made me appreciate how much this chan rocks.

02:21:16 mircea_popescu: all.the.tools.omfg.

02:23:19 mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/2ahc1u/i_was_given_my_first_1?_on_dec7th_my_birthday_now/

02:23:38 mircea_popescu: submitted 23 hours ago by Doge_Pro - investor shibe

02:24:33 BayAreaCoins: I would make the argument that there is a C. This would be middle class people who have a bank balance >250,000 (which is what FDIC insurance here in this country) but less than $1,500,000. I think that it would be more pointed towards them because I think people between those #'s are still a bit timid.

02:25:18 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins people who have 1/4mn can afford to fly wherever the fuck they please.

02:25:39 mircea_popescu: and no, the distinction is lower than that. something like 90% of us people own 1k or less in net assets.

02:25:51 BayAreaCoins: Obviously there is a decent demand for offshore banking, but I don't know a single one that I can set up within 10minutes from the comfort of my house and have it funded as well. Sure you can afford the flight, but you'll get laughed out of the bank.

02:25:58 BayAreaCoins: Wow 90%?

02:26:14 mircea_popescu: yes. americans are really vely poor.

02:26:45 BayAreaCoins: I think a lot of them are happy with being poor... which is disgusting.

02:27:13 BayAreaCoins: However I can assure you there are a number of us who aren't :) Don't get too down on good ole 'Murica ;)

02:27:23 mircea_popescu: https://moolah.io/store/ << look at that, no more store.

02:27:24 assbot: An Error Occurred: Not Found

02:28:13 BayAreaCoins: hmmm da fux... they close down shop I guess? I saw their little video leak.. I had a good chuck over that. Jackson is absolutely horrible to work with.... I like Billy a fuck of a lot more.

02:28:32 mircea_popescu: i have no idea who billy is

02:28:44 BayAreaCoins: Billy coded DOGE and Jackson was the marketing fuckhead

02:29:07 BayAreaCoins: I did a lot of talking to billy prior to Doge-dice launch

02:29:45 mircea_popescu: anyway, those of you who aren't aren't well advised to share where you hide your remaining wealth with anyone

02:29:49 mircea_popescu: especially not a govt employee

02:29:55 mircea_popescu: (which is what any lawyer is)

02:33:24 BayAreaCoins: Well I suppose that is why I stumbled though here again to pick your head a bit. If you knew someone was coming to get you right now and they were going to tear your house down brick by brick searching it... where would you put your coins? (feel free to tell me to fuck off)

02:33:36 BayAreaCoins: it being your coin wallet

02:33:46 mircea_popescu: i'd just shoot them.

02:33:59 mircea_popescu: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/report-of-c-cex-situation-with-drk-because-of-feb-23-accident.1677/ << here's a little bit of lulzy

02:34:00 assbot: Report of C-CEX situation with DRK because of feb, 23 accident. | DarkcoinTalk

02:34:08 mircea_popescu: "After "darkman" that find my mistake and get used of it made return of some DRK, exchange had about 250K DRK in wallet with discrepancy of about 50K DRK. Then I reversed DRK/BTC transactions made with him. After that I made another big mistake: I did not disabled withdrawals for users with negative balances."

02:34:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 921 @ 0.00251488 = 2.3162 BTC [-] {6}

02:34:37 BayAreaCoins: Right of course. I sell fire arms for bitcoin too on BTCtalk, but I only ship to America atm which probably isn't much help for you :)

02:36:28 BayAreaCoins: So you would rely 100% on your ability to shoot. I would think if I was put in that situation I would want to have a place to drop them off in case I got hit during the fire fight... that way I could leave the coins to my family or what not (like setting up a Trust)

02:36:39 BayAreaCoins: (? not a . on that first line)

02:37:13 mircea_popescu: why would i shoot them personally ?!

02:37:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 224 @ 0.00248999 = 0.5578 BTC [-]

02:38:47 BayAreaCoins: Well unless you are fucking bullet proof you might have to blast their ass if they come in your house! :P Never mind, but good points. Thanks man

02:39:44 mircea_popescu: you're acting as if security is some sort of novel thing. it's not. security is actually older than computers,

02:39:47 mircea_popescu: and than steam engine.

02:41:35 mircea_popescu: "[14-06-23 14:07:53] C-CEX: There is no Your, or my coins. I explained situation. That happens. I did not take any customer's coin."

02:41:38 mircea_popescu: pretty fucking epic.

02:43:25 mircea_popescu: !up BayAreaCoins

02:43:31 mircea_popescu: get in that wot already wouldja.

02:44:59 BayAreaCoins: haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P

02:47:03 mircea_popescu: o.o

02:47:28 BayAreaCoins: a bitcent per up! ;) haha :D

02:47:44 mircea_popescu: i guess i'll be rich.

02:48:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 295 @ 0.00265863 = 0.7843 BTC [+] {6}

02:49:03 BayAreaCoins: hahaha slowly but surely! :D

02:50:00 BayAreaCoins: I had a venture last year that made like $200,000 a nickle at a time rofl

02:50:09 BayAreaCoins: Metric fuck ton of nickles

02:51:10 mircea_popescu: you don't rly know who i am do you ?

02:51:21 BayAreaCoins: I do

02:52:08 mircea_popescu: speaking of bitcents, kinda amazing no further camwhores came forward.

02:52:08 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

02:53:00 BayAreaCoins: haha is that a reference to the nickle thing too ;)

02:53:26 BayAreaCoins: Which camwhores do you speak of or all of them in general accepting BTC for donations?

02:53:52 mircea_popescu: !s tits

02:53:53 assbot: 463 results for 'tits' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tits

02:54:15 mircea_popescu: click all the img links

02:55:26 BayAreaCoins: Haha nice :D Good ole webcams :)

02:55:59 BayAreaCoins: I was involved with them since 2010... my profile structure is actually one of the most copied there is on MyFreeCams now

02:56:08 BayAreaCoins: Young n dumb.. young n dumb

02:56:08 mircea_popescu: really ?

02:56:11 BayAreaCoins: Yes

02:56:15 mircea_popescu: so then help spread the news ? im giving away .1 per head.

02:56:56 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ << details.

02:56:57 assbot: I’ll pay for your tits pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

02:57:28 BayAreaCoins: haha It would be my pleasure to help :)

02:57:41 BayAreaCoins: I'll tell a few

02:57:44 mircea_popescu: do a girl a favour today! i hear money's tough.

02:57:55 BayAreaCoins: It's hard out there ;) hahaha (song)

02:58:41 BayAreaCoins: http://profiles.myfreecams.com/RavinTavin

02:58:42 assbot: RavinTavin's Homepage on MyFreeCams.com

02:58:51 BayAreaCoins: I believe she takes BTC and there are a few others too

03:05:37 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu what did you do prior to CryptoCurrencies? I assume you were successful prior?

03:05:50 BayAreaCoins: Feel free to tell me to get fucked, I was just wondering

03:06:44 mircea_popescu: prior to that i ran romania's most read blog, a local digg like service (reddit wasn't really all that big yet).

03:06:48 mircea_popescu: before that i was retired.

03:08:37 BayAreaCoins: What was your main bag that got you to that point of first retirement? I'm not trying to Q and A your ass of course

03:09:12 benkay: <BayAreaCoins> I like the mining structure and having potential to "create" jobs // oh god what is going on here

03:09:22 mircea_popescu: benkay don't ask.

03:09:28 BayAreaCoins: lol don't ask

03:11:17 BayAreaCoins: Who wants to make $10 a hour anyways...*rolls eyes ungratefully* :D

03:15:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00240128 = 2.4013 BTC [-]

03:15:12 benkay: <BayAreaCoins> haha that's the last time you'll have to do that man :) Thanks :P you got a bitcoin address for donations :P // 'course, you'll have to get rated, too.

03:15:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: link to the dead man (if there is a link) ?

03:15:35 asciilifeform: and i leave for a day, and slavecoin (!) walks in ?

03:15:36 mircea_popescu: who, this ?

03:16:13 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-07-2014#753289

03:16:14 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

03:17:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guy's nick was paraipan. he had cancer. no link afaik.

03:17:06 asciilifeform: aha

03:17:13 *: asciilifeform instantly assumed nailgun

03:17:23 mircea_popescu: because you're a simpleminded paranoid!

03:17:24 asciilifeform: 'human-minable cryptocurrency'

03:17:41 *: asciilifeform guilty as charged

03:19:01 *: asciilifeform saw film, 'snowpiercer' - an otherwise ridiculous cheap sf flick with some good meat re: hierarchy and the nature of 'derp'

03:19:15 mircea_popescu: so, half liter screwdriver, made out of right-now pressed oj and 12 yo cognac ? well, about $4 for the oranges, about $3 for the b randy.

03:19:16 mircea_popescu: that

03:19:23 mircea_popescu: s pesos, of course. 50 cents.

03:24:03 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: Off shore paper wallets with a network of trusted hedge fund attorneys around the world that are willing to hold paper wallets for clients within countries that have good privacy laws << lol, seriously think that law is a thing?

03:24:12 nam-shub_: probably the worst time to ask, but what's a two bedroom apartment cost there mp?

03:33:26 assbot: BayAreaCoins +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

03:36:48 asciilifeform: !up BayAreaCoins

03:37:10 BayAreaCoins: Thank you kindly, I'm getting it worked out. Want a bitcent ;) lol

03:37:30 BayAreaCoins: and lol @ slavecoin too, I really hope it doesn't turn into that.

03:37:40 asciilifeform: !s slavecoin

03:37:41 assbot: 18 results for 'slavecoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=slavecoin

03:39:10 BayAreaCoins: I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin :) I'm still waiting for Klu Klux Koin because I know it will get in a lot of peoples feelings :D

03:39:26 benkay: <BayAreaCoins> I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin // how would it not?

03:40:56 BayAreaCoins: Sadly you are going to have child labor in everything... all the way from making shoes to now mining. I don't think it can be avoided, but I think the game is swinging more toward bots... which obviously doesn't matter bot or not if it is a 5 year old running it.

03:41:54 BayAreaCoins: Not that I've seen any confirmed cases of that, but it is a thought.

03:42:22 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: consider answering question from earlier

03:42:32 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: why do you believe that law will protect your customers

03:43:01 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: or that it ever makes logical sense to trust another person with your private key

03:43:27 BayAreaCoins: I believe a lack of laws will protect potential customers.

03:44:12 benkay: 5 yo's running bots?

03:44:25 benkay: i'm just having the tiniest bit of trouble stitching this into something coherent.

03:44:25 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: let's draw a picture. scenario 'a' - current state of the art. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he coughs up his private key.

03:45:04 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: scenario 'b' - your service exists. u.s. inquisition drags a fellow away, sits him down on a sharp stake and pulls on his legs until he makes the magic phone call to $country where his coins are 'trustily' stored.

03:46:16 BayAreaCoins: Well first off it will be a bucket of water and a pillow case :)

03:46:25 asciilifeform: in scenario 'b', there is a 'private key' just as in 'a'

03:46:30 asciilifeform: and it goes to the same place.

03:46:43 asciilifeform: except that the fellow in 'b' is poorer even before the inquisitor shows up.

03:47:20 BayAreaCoins: I believe it would need to be set up to were the client can instantly send the coins from anywhere in the world, but actually has to pick them up in person or have someone who is part of the "trust" pick them up. (in case the primary account holder dies ect.)

03:48:16 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: fine. they take his family and sharpen N stakes, one for each hostage. and send him to pick up.

03:48:22 BayAreaCoins: Right

03:48:39 BayAreaCoins: That has to be the clients choice, but either way the coins are safe at the end of the day.

03:48:40 BayAreaCoins: Family or no family

03:48:48 dub: well, no family

03:48:55 dub: or client

03:49:20 BayAreaCoins: Way she goes

03:50:06 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: do you imagine that the greatest threat to an american btc user's stash is burglars, fire, flood?

03:50:38 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: if this were so, he could simply keep his coldwallet in a bank deposit box (or some number of them, via shamir's algorithm)

03:52:31 BayAreaCoins: I have to be frank with you... this is more for people who are looking to get hit by some government entity such as PDR. I do keep my paper wallets in banks between California and Arkansas. However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC

03:52:50 BayAreaCoins: Divorces, blah blah blah you know the shit that happens in life

03:53:10 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: what you don't appear to understand is that this is a 'military' puzzle, not a 'legal' puzzle.

03:53:29 asciilifeform: enemy is under no obligation to follow whatever rules of engagement

03:53:42 dub: theres the small issue of there being no market at all for such a service

03:54:11 dub: anyone who is willing to die and sacrifice family to protect coin will be doing so without help

03:54:12 asciilifeform: dub: this is rather like saying there is no market for a perpetuum mobile. of course there is. but, go build it.

03:55:23 asciilifeform: and by pitching a service explicitly to 'appeal to next DPR', you become... DPR. in the sense that once his stake is vacated, you will sit down on it.

03:55:46 dub: if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive

03:55:52 BayAreaCoins: dub That was a extreme event that was brought up by asciilifeform. I would venture to say that there is a market for people who are looking for privacy and the ability to store value where they want in the world.

03:56:15 asciilifeform: privacy and the ability to store value where they want << the existing blockchain provides this.

03:56:55 BayAreaCoins: Correct but the majority of people in the world have 0 fucking clue wtf the blockchain is and if they do they are scared of losing their shit. Look at coinbase building their "safe" wtf is the point of that! ;)

03:57:01 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: describe a scenario where a user of your service will come out unscathed, where a user of plain bitcoin would perish.

03:57:54 BayAreaCoins: asciilifeform lets say you are in SF and you're reading a book in the Sci-Fi section... lol haha :P no but really.

03:58:02 BayAreaCoins: Not just that of course either.

03:58:15 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: see the point about the stake.

03:58:26 mircea_popescu: nam-shub_ to buy you mean ?

03:58:49 nam-shub_: say what?

03:58:52 asciilifeform: BayAreaCoins: the only way you could conceivably 'save' a 'DPR' is to put - distance, army, navy, missile battery - between his arse and the nice folks in washington

03:59:01 mircea_popescu: <BayAreaCoins> I was talking about that human mine able one. Hopefully it doesn't turn into Child Slavery Sweatshop coin << srsly, "hopefully" is all you got ?

03:59:16 mircea_popescu: nam-shub_ what an appt costs to buy or to rent

03:59:26 mike_c: speaking of sitting on stakes, how you enjoying your stake BayAreaCoins? :)

03:59:27 nam-shub_: oh yeah, to buy

03:59:58 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu it is decentralized. Dunno what else I could have in regards to combating that.

04:00:19 mircea_popescu: nam-shub_ 50 to 100k usd, in ba. quite overpriced yet, they're sitll hoping.

04:00:24 BayAreaCoins: mike_c Medium rare and yummy as always :P

04:01:03 mircea_popescu: !up GNULinuxGuy

04:01:09 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust GNULinuxGuy

04:01:09 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user GNULinuxGuy: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=GNULinuxGuy | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=GNULinuxGuy | Rated since: never

04:01:21 mircea_popescu: ;;rate GNULinuxGuy 1 New blood

04:01:22 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

04:02:24 BayAreaCoins: mike_c Which stake are you talking about though, I generally have a number of them poking me :P

04:02:42 mike_c: i meant the bitcoin-assets stake currently being applied.

04:02:59 mike_c: it can be helpful, but it is sharp.

04:04:06 mircea_popescu: "However, I'm lucky enough to not have to have that worry/fear of my government because I don't involve myself with a number of business that one can choose to be involved in around BTC"

04:04:11 mircea_popescu: this is the lulziest shit i read all day,.

04:04:48 asciilifeform: reminds of old saying: 'eat right. exercise. die very surprised.'

04:04:52 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu I mean I ship my guns using FFL's and require permits to transfer snails across state lines :)

04:05:27 BayAreaCoins: mike_c I grew up on Battle.net (Blizzard Entertainment games) and I've always hung around successful people... so I don't mind getting my balls busted. It is good for me

04:05:43 dub: lol

04:05:48 BayAreaCoins: is what it is. I know where not to get clients for the offshore idea :P learned something haha

04:05:50 mircea_popescu: i miss herbi

04:06:05 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins let's take this one meta further.

04:06:17 BayAreaCoins: *prepares balls*

04:06:17 mircea_popescu: the process whereby you come up with "ideas" and then look for applications is fundamentally broken

04:06:38 asciilifeform: ;;seen herbijudlestoids

04:06:38 gribble: herbijudlestoids was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 weeks, 6 days, 10 hours, 56 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <herbijudlestoids> <3

04:06:43 mircea_popescu: not distinguishable from the process where dork figures out how his dream gf should look and then proceeds to try and find her.

04:06:48 mircea_popescu: the world works exactly backwards.

04:06:58 dub: he's invented mybitcoin

04:07:57 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins if you take the time to read this chan, which you should in any case, you'll discover all the respected/successful projects have the same thing in common, as all the mocked/despised "entrepreneurs" in their own characterisation have something else in common.

04:08:10 mircea_popescu: the former all started as in "you guise desperately need and ask for this, here it is"

04:08:19 mircea_popescu: the latter all started as in "here's my bright idea i came up with"

04:08:41 mircea_popescu: the most recent examples of this are of course mthreat's search and ninjashogun's whatever the fuck that was,

04:08:45 mircea_popescu: but plenty more in the same vein.

04:09:58 mircea_popescu: dub: if you actually had a use for this level of protection you could trviially roll your own, would not trust anyone else to do so anyway, and be one of 7 people alive << your summary is approved. when do you quit your dayjob to do ba logs summary full time ?

04:10:51 asciilifeform: 'everyone' has a use for atomic dirigible. except for the folks who can afford it.

04:18:08 dub: i dont have a day job

04:20:34 mircea_popescu: buncha fucking bums in this chan

04:20:37 mircea_popescu: nobody can keep a job.

04:23:03 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 << darkcoin dramz

04:23:05 mircea_popescu: !up stormlight

04:23:29 asciilifeform: dead link?

04:23:39 mircea_popescu: apparently they got a hard fork.

04:24:00 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg7809092#msg7809092 < that work ?

04:24:00 assbot: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | Fork for Masternode Payments!

04:24:12 asciilifeform: aye

04:28:32 mircea_popescu: "Is there any other coin that has so many talented individual developers backing up the network?

04:28:32 mircea_popescu: Is there any website even remotely close to chaeplin's detailed network analysis, even for Bitcoin?

04:28:32 mircea_popescu: Is there any community out there, that despite the price crashes and road-bumps, stick together in such a strong manner, getting stronger by the day?"

04:28:42 mircea_popescu: in case you didn't know this... apparently darkcoin is a big deal. o.O

04:31:41 mircea_popescu: http://www.cityam.com/1403524841/darkcoin-fails-rise-after-latest-hardfork-failure << this REALLY sounds a lot like solidcoin.

04:31:41 assbot: Darkcoin fails to rise after latest hardfork failure | City A.M.

04:33:17 benkay: hardfork failure?

04:33:36 benkay: a new language for your new coin

04:34:19 benkay: had a great interaction with a human today at a bbq: "what do you think of all of the other coins?" "you mean the forks of the bitcoin reference implementation with various knobs diddled?" "are they--" "yes."

04:34:43 danielpbarron: !up BayAreaCoins

04:35:16 BayAreaCoins: Ah damn, thank you sir.

04:35:29 *: danielpbarron accepts bitcents 151enbTugrchY8YB8adH3rRjAHez9VFAvd

04:35:39 BayAreaCoins: k <3 :D

04:36:01 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 3600 * 24 / 512 * 25

04:36:01 gribble: 4218.75

04:36:42 mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, this coin produces about 3/4 of the bitcoins of a day, and they're supposedly worth 1 bitcent each ?

04:36:44 mircea_popescu: the magix.

04:39:59 BayAreaCoins: danielpbarron 0fc3075cbfb1e8cb9f1f8b114086291a79ca543a8dd2485ca11afc3ad0d395aa

04:40:48 mircea_popescu: ok, x11 is fucking dumb, for the record. jesus it's scary what happens when engineers just start doing shit without any supervision.

04:41:26 mike_c: just for the record, sometimes the supervison sucks.

04:41:26 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron is this the first successful charge-for-up case ?

04:41:34 mircea_popescu: mike_c agreed.

04:41:42 mircea_popescu: i am not proposing to excuse the idiocy of the phb.

04:42:08 BayAreaCoins: lol happy to be the first :P... it's what I do ;)

04:42:15 BayAreaCoins: *sarcasm*

04:43:53 mircea_popescu: only took like 3 months or so i reckon

04:44:40 danielpbarron: sweet! thanks, BayAreaCoins

04:46:02 BayAreaCoins: Not a problem man! Thank you

04:47:06 BayAreaCoins: What do you guys what to see next for bitcoin that doesn't exist right now or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm?

04:47:37 decimation: Mr. Coins if you are convinced there is a "middle class" of bitcoin users in the us, why not start an exchange for them?

04:48:22 mircea_popescu: decimation he's new, give him a break.

04:48:32 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins you're new, so nobody really knows what you';d be good at.

04:48:42 mircea_popescu: that's kinda why you're stuck reading the logs for a while.

04:48:58 benkay: or is it perfect because you've made everything you want that you can imagine for it atm? // this sounds like the guy who asks "so do all of your friends use linux, then?" when told one occasionally counsels friends on not being retarded with crypto

04:50:10 mircea_popescu: benkay i bet you answers on all teh windows ports.

04:51:57 benkay: webchat forwards user IP?

04:52:19 mircea_popescu: this is the internet. it does whatever you want it to.

04:52:46 benkay: BayAreaCoins: you're going to have a hard time figuring out what'd benefit the ecosystem when you don't even have big boy pants on.

04:53:00 BayAreaCoins: No breaks please. Bust my balls with full force. It is all good. mircea_popescu. Decimation I think there are a number of places that middle class americans already exchange BTC. I'm also not 100% convinced that is why I'm interested in what you guys have to say.

04:53:03 benkay: mircea_popescu: of course it *can*. *does*, though.

04:53:25 BayAreaCoins: benkay excuse me for getting stoned. Gotta give me a min.. I go to bed and wake up everyday with my big boy spider man underware

04:54:10 BayAreaCoins: benkay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMDITyYfua8

04:54:11 assbot: Bernie Mac I Ain't Scared of You Mofos - YouTube

04:54:35 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins start with something easy, like getting in the wot.

04:55:16 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu ya I'll get on that this week. I have a Thompson 1927-A1 coming in next week I can probably get listed and sold ASAP.

04:55:46 mircea_popescu: that's not the important part there.

04:57:12 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu Ok, I'll read into it and get it taken care of.

04:59:12 decimation: re: net worth of 'merican adult: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/americans-have-relatively-poor-net-wealth-cm257517

04:59:12 assbot: Americans Have Relatively Poor Net Wealth - NASDAQ.com

04:59:29 decimation: only 28% of us adults have over $100k

05:00:40 mircea_popescu: decimation that thing uses bad real estate data.

05:00:41 benkay: underwarez

05:00:45 mircea_popescu: !up Graet

05:01:16 kyuupichan: lol

05:01:44 BayAreaCoins: ;) :D lol

05:02:12 cazalla: :In Australia, over 65% of all adults have a net worth exceeding $100,000"

05:02:20 cazalla: we also have inflated property prices out the ass

05:02:41 mircea_popescu: cazalla exactly.

05:02:44 mircea_popescu: http://econintersect.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/z-temp3.png

05:02:49 decimation: well, in May 2014 the median existing home price was $213,400 in the us http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HOSMEDUSM052N

05:02:50 assbot: Median Sales Price of Existing Homes - FRED - St. Louis Fed

05:02:53 mircea_popescu: this thing claims aussies are 50% richer than austrians

05:02:55 kyuupichan: Just finished paying for my whole Maldives trip with BTC. Sorry to keep the downward price pressure on.

05:02:55 mircea_popescu: this is ludicrous.

05:03:04 mircea_popescu: kyuupichan enjoy.

05:03:13 decimation: anyone who has ever been near the DACH zone knows that germans are rich as fuck

05:03:18 mircea_popescu: decimation roughly in the sense darkcoin is worth 4 dollars per.

05:03:22 mircea_popescu: "provided noone sells"

05:03:41 decimation: right, so the median adult can barely afford half a median house

05:03:55 decimation: the median us adult is therefore a debt slave

05:04:25 mircea_popescu: if you adjust those numbers for real-real estate prices, you get about 90% ish of us peeps under 1k (which is also your error, or at least mine)

05:05:06 mircea_popescu: also ludicrous : india 4k, china 20k ? heh. the chinese aren't 5x ahead of the indians just because the chinese govt inflated a real estate bubble which delhi doesn't quite match

05:05:09 decimation: so, you are saying that the nasdaq data is inflated because of "paper house value"

05:06:14 mircea_popescu: ok, look at sweeden : by that judgement, 231k mean 40k median, it is the MOST inequal country in all of europe.

05:06:16 mircea_popescu: SWEDEN.

05:06:21 mircea_popescu: thing's fucking borked.

05:07:50 decimation: doesn't sweden have a government minimum income

05:09:36 kyuupichan: Another blockchain spammer: https://blockchain.info/address/1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7

05:09:36 assbot: Bitcoin Address 1AH3gdneXaV1qEEB1XJQjS7qbzktf1APx7

05:10:39 mircea_popescu: there will be an infinity of these

05:12:54 decimation: http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-card-data/average-credit-card-debt-household/ << apparently nearly 50% of us households carry a credit card balance monthly

05:12:55 assbot: American Household Credit Card Debt Statistics: 2014

05:13:14 decimation: so they cleary have less than $0 net worth

05:13:59 mircea_popescu: How to create a masternode? - Get a machine with a static ip

05:14:03 mircea_popescu: this is the anon coin.

05:14:12 mircea_popescu: it relies on... machines with static ips.

05:14:24 mircea_popescu: decimation right.

05:15:21 decimation: I suspect the "wealthy" half has most of their assets locked away in retirement plans, and most of those plans don't allow you to "invest" as you choose

05:18:16 benkay: decimation: truth.

05:18:18 mircea_popescu: decimation 50% are in cc hell. of the remainder, 30% are in middle class hell (they have some money, locked away in iras, college funds, ss payments etc - all of which is as good as gone but nobody's telling them).

05:18:50 decimation: lol https://blog.personalcapital.com/financial-planning-2/average-401k-balance-age/ "Supposedly two-thirds of working households age 55-64 with at least one earner have retirement savings less than one times their annual income. Given the median household income is roughly $52,000, that?s not a good sign."

05:18:53 assbot: The Average 401k Balance By Age

05:18:53 mircea_popescu: of the remainder 20%, about 10% are homeless, in prison or in mental institutions

05:18:58 mircea_popescu: that leaves 10%, of which about half are expats.

05:19:11 decimation: or easily could be ex-pats, if the mood struck

05:19:22 mircea_popescu: the mood strikes.

05:20:37 benkay: <- pending exile

05:20:46 mircea_popescu: jesus this darkcoin thing is more stupid than i had originally thought.

05:21:09 benkay: !s from: benkay darkcoin

05:21:10 assbot: 0 results for 'from: benkay darkcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3A+benkay+darkcoin

05:22:13 mircea_popescu: ha.

05:22:56 benkay: yeah i now recall thinking to myself "myup. stop wasting time, kid."

05:24:19 decimation: when you boil that down, the american "middle class" is really at most maybe 10% of the population, so maybe ~20 million adults

05:24:29 mircea_popescu: i was like "why do i never receive altcoin summaries&updates ???" "because they are all exceedingly stupid" "no wai." "eta 2 hours"

05:24:36 mircea_popescu: 2 hours later i am... where's that cat gif

05:25:11 mircea_popescu: http://www.artic.edu/~lfreit/catsoftheinternet/images/scared%20kitten.jpg

05:28:26 decimation: re: german spies << either the germans are really good or the CIA sucks at spying, apparently

05:28:47 mircea_popescu: the russians halped.

05:29:12 mircea_popescu: germany is maybe in the top 10. russia is of course in the top 5, way up there with romania and israel.

05:29:16 mircea_popescu: the us is not in any top.

05:30:05 mircea_popescu: !up basquiat_

05:30:13 basquiat_: anyone use havelock?

05:30:16 decimation: what does the fact that the US auctioned off the DPR horde of btc rather than put it in the fed reveal about usg?

05:30:28 benkay: https://unsee.cc/napube/

05:30:28 assbot: Unsee — Free online private photo sharing

05:30:36 mircea_popescu: decimation how do you know it didn't ?

05:30:46 mircea_popescu: !s havelock

05:30:47 assbot: 65766 results for 'havelock' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=havelock

05:30:48 mircea_popescu: basquiat_ ^

05:31:05 mircea_popescu: aw shit bad link. one sec

05:31:17 decimation: are you saying the auction never took place?

05:31:22 mircea_popescu: !s havelock -from:assbot

05:31:23 assbot: 916 results for 'havelock -from:assbot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=havelock+-from%3Aassbot

05:32:20 mircea_popescu: decimation nah.

05:32:48 decimation: I guess they have only claimed to have sold 30k of the 144k

05:33:53 benkay: well i've worked through these provisioners from top to bottom, and now it's time to test them all against some freshness

05:34:01 benkay: vagrant destroy && vagrant up

05:34:11 benkay: ./provision 2222

05:34:16 benkay: "okay girls, let's go!"

05:35:24 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2014#717140 you know ?

05:35:25 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

05:38:13 decimation: eh, that supposes that the usg is secretly competent, which you just implied was not the case above

05:38:37 mircea_popescu: i really don't see a conflict.

05:38:43 mircea_popescu: how's it work ?

05:40:27 decimation: some part of the usg has to be able to operate in secrecy effectively to perform this laudering plan right?

05:40:49 mircea_popescu: you mean the plan i just discussed in a public chan ?

05:40:55 mircea_popescu: yeah, i see that.

05:46:45 []bot: Bet created: "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/

05:51:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19971884 = 1.1983 BTC [+] {2}

05:52:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.19999326 = 0.6 BTC [+] {2}

06:56:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [+]

07:19:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 225 @ 0.002615 = 0.5884 BTC [-]

07:29:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00268999 = 0.538 BTC [-]

07:41:23 punkman: !up BayAreaCoins

08:46:21 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c hey, https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ << after 1 year, everyone's on -

08:46:22 assbot: Game 17 - Death 5000 Life 5000 Year 2 - War of Life

08:46:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

09:11:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 63 @ 0.00911084 = 0.574 BTC [-] {2}

09:17:33 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 42(Y):58(N) by coin, 42(Y):58(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.24105324 BTC. Current weight: 93,892.

09:18:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 500 @ 0.03079906 = 15.3995 BTC [-]

09:18:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 500 @ 0.012 = 6 BTC [-] {3}

09:20:47 dub: who won game 16?

09:23:41 mircea_popescu: well there's no "win" per se.

09:24:10 mircea_popescu: https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/16/activity/

09:24:11 assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!

09:24:16 mircea_popescu: some people made a profit, some made a loss

09:24:30 mircea_popescu: death mostly made a loss.

09:24:40 dub: fwiw having a link ot the previous game might be nice

09:25:11 dub: death beat life though right?

09:25:21 mircea_popescu: the link is there

09:25:36 dub: i cant see it

09:25:48 mircea_popescu: Death 5094 Life 4906

09:25:56 mircea_popescu: so yeah, by like 2%

09:26:20 mircea_popescu: https://btc.waroflife.com/ << see where it says "game 16 - finished" ?

09:26:20 assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!

09:26:37 dub: try putting it on the gow page where one would go looking for it

09:27:20 mircea_popescu: on the where ?

09:27:55 mircea_popescu: it's like a large centrral panel with the current game and two smaller to the left, prev and next game

09:28:16 dub: yeah I see it on the front page but nobody would land there surely?

09:29:01 dub: anyway, to sound like a sore loser, its a stupid game

09:30:06 mircea_popescu: lol you lost ?!

09:30:21 dub: yes

09:30:35 mircea_popescu: how the hell can you lose

09:31:10 dub: by backing the winning team. clearly

09:31:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 29 @ 0.03079906 = 0.8932 BTC [-]

09:31:20 mircea_popescu: ahahaha

09:31:43 mircea_popescu: this sounds just like a buttcoin game.

09:31:48 mircea_popescu: now i know it's gonna be successful.

09:32:03 mircea_popescu: it all hinged on having something like bitbet's "omgwtfbbq i bet on winning side and lost!"

09:33:22 mircea_popescu: lol so i peeled .33 off this satoshi dice clone thing

09:37:07 punkman: dub, it's not about backing the winning team, you just have to buy cheaper than all the other mooks

09:37:26 mircea_popescu: ^

09:37:38 mircea_popescu: this is the ultimate "bitcoin investor" cocaine tbh

09:37:48 mircea_popescu: mike is wise.

09:37:55 dub: i realise that

09:42:17 punkman: ;;later tell mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame

09:42:17 gribble: The operation succeeded.

09:55:25 dub: more like ketamine, chances are it will put you to sleep and only people with personality issues go back for more

09:56:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 562 @ 0.0026855 = 1.5093 BTC [-]

09:58:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0176 = 0.528 BTC [+] {2}

10:10:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01832875 = 1.4663 BTC [+] {6}

10:21:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.01879254 = 1.0148 BTC [+]

11:46:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 48 @ 0.01264998 = 0.6072 BTC [+] {6}

11:48:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.03079906 = 1.54 BTC [-]

11:48:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.013 = 0.65 BTC [+]

11:50:07 punkman: %mined

11:50:09 atcbot: [ATC Mined] Current: 20193280 Total ATC (to be mined): 268435456 % Mined of Total: 7.52

11:50:46 punkman: %diff

11:50:47 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 547975.01 in 879 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -30.21

11:52:48 cazalla: crying baby, fuck kill me now

11:56:07 kyuupichan: ;;bc,stats

11:56:10 gribble: Current Blocks: 310551 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1928 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 52 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19843861618.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.46411

11:56:29 kyuupichan: Gribble very bullish difficulty

11:57:15 kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation

11:57:28 kyuupichan: Had ~ 50TH

11:58:46 kyuupichan: He'd budgeted +10% difficulty each period for rest of 2014; seems about right to me

11:59:21 kyuupichan: Sell my BTC for holiday; BTC jumps 1.5%

12:00:11 kyuupichan: Small fraction of BTC, that is

12:03:13 kyuupichan: I sense increasing govt apprehension abt BTC

12:03:33 cazalla: holiday to where?

12:04:02 kyuupichan: cazalla: Maldives; mentioned it a while ago. Not exactly cheap, as I discovered.

12:04:21 kyuupichan: Well, it's my 14-years late honeymoon.

12:04:26 cazalla: i wanna piss off to angeles

12:04:33 cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P

12:05:50 kyuupichan: I reckon I must be high on the Expedia list of bitcoin dudes using their service more than expected

12:06:01 kyuupichan: :)

12:06:18 kyuupichan: Though initial booking + cancellation was quite a nightmare

12:06:35 cazalla: meh i'd still use credit card if i was doing that

12:07:11 kyuupichan: cazalla: Sure. Preference depends on circumstances. I'm overweight BTC; happy to drop a few now and then.

12:08:32 cazalla: just seems a hassle, as you described

12:13:02 cazalla: so what made cancellation a nightmare? they take btc but don't want to pay it back? fiat only refund?

12:14:11 kyuupichan: Well they'd only just started taking BTC. Most of their sales reps had (still have) no clue. When asking about the refund, they said it'll be on credit card despite my having said half a dozen times I'd not used CC and paid with bitcoin. Clearly clueless.

12:14:57 cazalla: predictable though

12:14:59 kyuupichan: Coordinating them and their payment processor (coinbase) was a PITA, particularly as I don't live in US so it was international phone calls. I'm not a fan of coinbase but to be honest they seemed to fix it, and they were the most helpful.

12:15:45 kyuupichan: All I wanted to do was change a date. booking.com is far superior to expedia.com for that; you, uh, just change the date.

12:15:59 kyuupichan: Expedia insist on cancel + rebook.

12:16:06 cazalla: going through all the permutations though, sounds like this was obvious and prob better to use cc

12:16:25 kyuupichan: Sure, but I'm underweight fiat; would rather not spend it as not much left :)

12:18:59 BigBitz: tried Destinia.com kyuupichan?

12:21:22 kyuupichan: BigBitz: No never heard of it. I used btctrip.com for flights for 2nd time without issue (bad experience with cheapair, though that seems unusual) and expedia for hotels.

12:23:28 kyuupichan: Seems they don't have my hotel :(

14:02:42 []bot: Bet placed: 1.5502 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.06307729 BTC. Current weight: 97,814.

14:30:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1500 @ 0.0046455 = 6.9683 BTC [+] {18}

14:58:25 jurov: http://www.mcst.ru/novyj-8yadernyj-mikroprocessor-elbrus-8c

15:09:41 artifexd: "ability to perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle, which provides high performance at moderate clock frequency" <- wow

15:17:32 jurov: dunno if this isn't itanium-like pipe dream

15:19:38 jurov: will be interesting to see if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation

15:29:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 210 @ 0.00266355 = 0.5593 BTC [-] {5}

15:30:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 390 @ 0.00265205 = 1.0343 BTC [-] {4}

15:57:14 artifexd: !up hanbot

15:58:18 artifexd: !up hanbot

15:58:25 hanbot: a ty

15:58:29 hanbot: that was strange

15:58:33 artifexd: gribble lost me so I had to reauth

15:58:41 hanbot: ah

15:59:15 artifexd: What are you up to now days?

16:00:13 hanbot: ;;later tell mike_c hey "There is an infinitesimal chance none of the numbers will be < 1,000,000. In this case the last group (bits 12 - 31) are used to find the location as follows:" would it not be better to just re-hash the hash and try again? and if it fails again, hash it again. infinitesimal is infinitesimal, but why even bother.

16:00:14 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:00:33 hanbot: artifexd, actually, i've been trying to write.

16:00:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 19.59579552 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1704 satoshi per share

16:01:42 hanbot: how about yourself?

16:02:04 artifexd: Makin' stuff. Then makin' it faster.

16:02:19 artifexd: World Cup has us pretty busy.

16:02:26 hanbot: bikes? cars?

16:02:41 artifexd: software

16:02:56 hanbot: oh yeah.

16:03:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69116640 BTC to 11`660 shares, 14504 satoshi per share

16:06:53 hanbot: so what do you do with the wc?

16:09:08 artifexd: If you listen to the world cup on the internet, odds are that it is flowing through my software.

16:13:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 51 @ 0.02987824 = 1.5238 BTC [-]

16:13:54 artifexd: One of my projects is a custom streaming audio server. High performance, customized streams for each client, transcodes one input to multiple output formats, blah, blah, blah.

16:14:15 asciilifeform: artifexd: perform on each core to 25 operations in a single clock cycle << you can make a 'pipeline' as long as you like. it ends up mostly full of NOPs.

16:14:23 artifexd: It isn't interesting to talk about, but advertisers love it and it is a lot of fun (and frustration) to work on.

16:14:43 asciilifeform: if they can pull both this *and* decent x86 emulation << russian, chinese, martian CPUs will be interesting when - and not before - they swear off x86 emulation.

16:15:59 artifexd: If that is a pipeline, wouldn't that be too long to be performant? I mean, one missed branch prediction and you have to flush the whole thing.

16:16:07 asciilifeform: artifexd: exactly.

16:17:07 artifexd: Are you speculating that it is a pipeline measurement or are you certain?

16:17:19 asciilifeform: artifexd: well, the classic 'elbrus' was pipelined.

16:17:36 asciilifeform: so it's a reasonable presumption. no, i don't have the manual for the new one.

16:17:47 artifexd: Aren't all processors pipelined now?

16:18:03 artifexd: To some degree, at least.

16:18:14 asciilifeform: all but the cheapest embedded cpu

16:29:08 mircea_popescu: goood mornin' boys an' gals.

16:29:59 artifexd: !up hanbot

16:30:27 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust assbot hanbot

16:30:28 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user hanbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=hanbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=hanbot | Rated since: Wed Dec 11 14:42:14 2013

16:30:31 thestringpuller: lol

16:30:40 artifexd: she asked

16:31:31 mircea_popescu: ahh look at the short logs.

16:32:59 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell punkman: mike_c would be nice if WoL could track bets on GoWs, since I already have an account for the minigame << actually, it'd be prolly good to have a YOU: summary on either side of GoW as long as the person is actually logged in. in case they bought multiple bids etc.

16:33:00 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:34:03 mircea_popescu: dub hm, what do you hate about it ? that there's not really any "you lose 100%" ?

16:34:30 mircea_popescu: kyuupichan: 3 wks ago in Seattle talking to a dude doing mining there; was downvolting all his machines because of summer heat generation << but you know seattle/the us is not really the center of mining.

16:35:23 mircea_popescu: cazalla: not sure wife would be here when i get back though :P << lol what, she got a nice big black fellow all lined up ?

16:38:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]

16:38:24 mircea_popescu: "The Itanium approach...was supposed to be so terrific?until it turned out that the wished-for compilers were basically impossible to write."

16:38:29 mircea_popescu: ah, if only they had heard of urbit.

16:38:42 mircea_popescu: they could have just made jets.

16:39:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the famous 'itanic' used an approach called 'vliw' - 'very long instruction word' - where the compiler was expected to fill up the pipeline manually, avoiding 'hazards' (instructions fighting over a resource, e.g. register or memory)

16:40:06 mircea_popescu: right.

16:40:32 mircea_popescu: logically, the compiler is in the best position to do this, because it can directly poll the bus.

16:40:59 mircea_popescu: (how do you like my new 64 Gb Snark ?)

16:41:02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it can - and was - be made to work, just that it was never clear to anyone wtf the point is.

16:41:41 asciilifeform: sorta like howard hughes and his 'spruce goose'

16:41:50 mircea_popescu: well, it was different... not to mention "new and exciting"

16:41:58 mircea_popescu: the 90s way to say "revolutionary and innovative"

16:42:07 *: asciilifeform failed to get excited

16:42:46 mircea_popescu: well honestly, the wood airplane may well ahve becvome a big deal.

16:43:05 *: asciilifeform suspects that itanic was a 'lock-in play' - intel hoped that no one else could write a decent compiler for the chip. but what ended up happening was - for ages, gcc was the only working itanic toolchain...

16:43:51 mircea_popescu: i think you're right

16:44:09 mircea_popescu: they woefully misjudged their market position, too.

16:44:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 100 @ 0.0121 = 1.21 BTC [-]

16:44:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02987824 = 2.9878 BTC [-]

16:45:30 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what intel overestimated was the ability of microshit to shoehorn their turd into exotic cpu. turned out to be nil. (nt on alpha - never entirely worked. etc)

16:46:25 mircea_popescu: that too. but even should ms have had it ready on t+1minute, and if it worked splendidly (lolk, but bear with me)

16:46:37 mircea_popescu: the net result would have been foss+amd buldgeoning them into a fine paste.

16:47:05 mircea_popescu: so it's one of those things old geezers tell you about, as their life turning point, over a game of checkers in central park. no, it wasn't : even if the thing they woe about would have worked their way

16:47:16 mircea_popescu: there were upstream considerations preventing it from working anyway

16:47:31 mircea_popescu: classical example, "if only the nightcop hadn't turned around just then".

16:47:33 mircea_popescu: ya, right.

16:47:40 mircea_popescu: !up basquiat_

16:52:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 74 @ 0.0116404 = 0.8614 BTC [-] {2}

16:53:00 assbot: nam-shub +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

16:54:09 mircea_popescu: !up nam-shub

16:54:15 mircea_popescu: trust vectored fighters are fucking cool.

16:56:11 benkay: does anyone have a copy of john brooks Business Adventures?

16:57:36 benkay: someone's digitized it and trying to make a dime off the old man's corpse: www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/bill-gates-favorite-business-book.html

17:01:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the real marvel is that itanics are still being produced.

17:02:12 asciilifeform: (or at least they were, last year...)

17:02:53 mircea_popescu: didn't they name one after a senator or something ?

17:03:17 asciilifeform: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/itanium/itanium-kittson-update.html

17:03:17 assbot: Intel Itanium Processors Update

17:03:26 asciilifeform: afaik, a city

17:03:32 mircea_popescu: hm

17:03:37 mircea_popescu: what am i confusing it with

17:03:51 asciilifeform: every single building at u.s. national institute of health?

17:04:00 asciilifeform: (named after senator who disbursed some payola)

17:04:10 mircea_popescu: no dude

17:04:16 mircea_popescu: ;;google poulson itanium

17:04:17 gribble: Itanium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium; Intel finally releases 9500-series Itanium, announces plans to merge ...: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/140082-intel-finally-releases-9500-series-itanium-announces-plans-to-merge-itanium-and-xeon; Intel's Eight-Core, Heavily-Updated Poulson Itanium Breaks Cover ...: (1 more message)

17:13:47 mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats

17:13:51 gribble: Current Blocks: 310581 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1898 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18900118669.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.02038

17:22:48 punkman: was just looking at this, f.mpif pc4 stands to make almost 10% (if favored side wins on pending bets): http://i.imgur.com/g5MPhbF.png

17:24:13 mircea_popescu: wow srsly ?

17:24:44 punkman: !up hanbot

17:26:31 mircea_popescu: http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/

17:26:32 assbot: F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha

17:26:35 mircea_popescu: so far it's red all around tho

17:29:52 hanbot: punkman looks pretty good imo, but yep, ruddy atm.

17:31:01 hanbot: i'm rooting for a red card tonight

17:31:53 mircea_popescu: there's gotta be a red card

17:32:03 mircea_popescu: if not they're not even trying.

17:36:52 thestringpuller: i need to stop binge watching netflix

17:39:22 mircea_popescu: this has got to be the most idiotic publisher strat i ever encountered. so about a month ago, i shot an email to a medium sized network, for an ad spot. i got a reply from an acct manager, which was a little late and very half assed. i just dropped the thing. he sent me a couple "follow-up" emails later that week, which resulted in them being blacklisted.

17:39:35 mircea_popescu: during the intervening month, they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.

17:40:13 mircea_popescu: holy shit man, why not just be on the ball and cut the deal when you have the chance ? why half ass that and then spend a month trying ? what sort of idiot came up with this strat i wish to know.

17:40:50 hanbot: mircea_popescu sounds like a shrimp farmer

17:41:07 mircea_popescu: lol wut?

17:42:13 hanbot: the publisher. casts a wide net, no anticipation of catching actual fish, just interested in a big mass of little bits.

17:43:03 mircea_popescu: oh.

17:43:10 mircea_popescu: jesus that must suck.

17:43:26 mircea_popescu: "why find a few good friends in this world, just pretend everything in it is an earthworm

17:43:32 hanbot: i'm sure it stinks, anyway.

17:46:24 hanbot: yeah. in the name of clutching at what they think they want, most people will put on some pretty ridiculous costumes.

17:55:50 mircea_popescu: BRINGERS OF DARKNESS are revitalizing audiences with their raw energy live show and undeniable chemistry of brotherhood. They transcend a world that is locked in genre and commercialism; though they know they can't do it alone, they are the seeds of a revolution. The band has pitched their newest CD to Sony executives[, played in front of the likes of Henry Rallins, and the lead singer has sang onstage with Freddie Mir

17:55:50 mircea_popescu: cury - we have the goods and we WILL deliver.

17:55:51 mircea_popescu: Members: Tim "Kinnie" kingsworth - guitarist born to rock, tim has written many of bringers of darkness's best songs including "my love for you is swimming through the rapids like a broken arow" (Tim only plays Bingleworth guitars. Onstage, he plays a Bingleworth J-9000 7-string with a neo-chromium humbuckers. For recording, he uses a K-9001 with two single-coli pickups. He exclusively uses Krankle amplifiers and Czech

17:55:53 mircea_popescu: -Tec guitar tubes)

17:55:55 mircea_popescu: this should be an ipo.

18:00:23 punkman: mircea_popescu: turns out I fucked up some math there, expected gain on pending bets is around 40%

18:00:54 mircea_popescu: wait what ?

18:02:50 punkman: yep, http://i.imgur.com/B4bugC5.png

18:04:01 mircea_popescu: can you do some more math erroring, get it to 160% ?

18:05:05 mircea_popescu: that "pending gain" is a best case sort of number no ?

18:05:21 punkman: if favored side wins, yeah

18:07:47 punkman: if I pick the favored side by total btc in the pot, then pending gain goes to -1.43 BTC

18:10:15 punkman: (todo: make stats exportable)

18:11:09 mircea_popescu: so basically it could either lose or win, maybe a lot, probably a little.

18:11:33 mircea_popescu: hanbot good point re the bombs yeah

18:13:19 mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1

18:13:30 mircea_popescu: o hey the crowds are getting rowdy

18:14:44 mircea_popescu: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/07/11/drought-shaming-pitting-neighbors-against-neighbors-on-social-media/

18:14:44 assbot: Drought Shaming Pitting Neighbors Against Neighbors On Social Media « CBS Sacramento

18:14:45 punkman: mircea_popescu: yea we'll see how that goes, though hanbot's allocation of BTC is slightly better than global bitbet allocation so far.

18:14:47 mircea_popescu: drought shaming lol

18:15:00 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ^

18:15:58 asciilifeform: ?

18:16:27 mircea_popescu: a slighly scarce resource, and there are the informants,

18:16:38 mircea_popescu: there are the brown brigades,

18:16:42 asciilifeform: more interesting (linked from above) - http://now100fm.cbslocal.com/2014/07/09/weird-news-wednesday-waitresses-wear-guns-in-restaurant << notice the stock pic - who the hell has a soviet 'TT' ?!

18:16:43 assbot: Weird News Wednesday: Waitresses Wear Guns In Restaurant « NOW 100.5 FM

18:16:46 mircea_popescu: there's the whole story. "could not happen here"

18:16:49 asciilifeform: (bottom right hand corner of pic)

18:17:08 mircea_popescu: no, that's a cult gun

18:17:17 indiancandy1: i wonder what assange thinks of btc

18:17:30 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 he loves it.

18:18:48 asciilifeform: http://demotivators.to/media/posters/1990/622228_luchshe-starenkij-tt-chem-dzyudo-i-karate.jpg << 'Лучше старенький ТТ чем дзюдо и карате' ~= 'better have an old TT, than judo and karate'

18:19:08 mircea_popescu: i dunno, they're god-awful

18:19:33 asciilifeform: better than the 1890s seven-shooter that preceded it, by most accounts

18:19:50 indiancandy1: some seriose protests going on in london

18:19:53 indiancandy1: really bizzar

18:20:00 indiancandy1: free palestine mallarky

18:21:22 mircea_popescu: !up stormlight

18:21:41 indiancandy1: go argentina

18:21:48 indiancandy1: mircea u having a wc party round urs

18:22:26 punkman: wonder if this is all the BTC wikileaks has now: https://blockchain.info/address/1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v

18:22:26 assbot: Bitcoin Address 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v

18:23:03 asciilifeform: punkman: just one mystery remains - why do they need coin.

18:24:22 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 the whole street's a party

18:27:23 punkman: asciilifeform: seems like most of that was spent in December 2013

18:27:32 asciilifeform: punkman: but on what

18:28:06 mircea_popescu: new year's party ?

18:30:12 indiancandy1: im so jelous

18:30:17 indiancandy1: why didnt u buy me a ticket

18:30:19 indiancandy1: to come over

18:31:49 asciilifeform: indiancandy1: afaik mircea_popescu expects guests to buy own ticket

18:32:10 indiancandy1: his the billionair

18:32:13 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 because you didn't do whatever video.

18:32:16 asciilifeform: indiancandy1: (when friends visit you, do you pay their fare?)

18:32:16 indiancandy1: what is 700 usd to him

18:32:26 indiancandy1: im poor

18:32:31 indiancandy1: i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash

18:32:39 mircea_popescu: o.o

18:32:45 mircea_popescu: camho rap, who knew this was a thing

18:32:47 indiancandy1: 0.0

18:32:52 indiancandy1: o.0

18:33:12 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 wait, are you a poor indian ?!

18:33:43 mthreat: define poor

18:34:05 mircea_popescu: mthreat "i have 2 flash my gash 4 cash" ?

18:34:37 indiancandy1: yap

18:34:43 indiancandy1: great definition

18:35:07 indiancandy1: im a poor half indian/greek

18:35:19 mircea_popescu: now b-a really has everything.

18:35:48 indiancandy1: b a british airways?

18:35:49 indiancandy1: LOL

18:35:59 mircea_popescu: nah this chan. bitcoin-assets

18:36:11 mircea_popescu: or, alternatively, buenos aires. which is why i moved here, to troll b-a

18:36:19 mircea_popescu: ambiguitytroling

18:36:25 indiancandy1: maybe coz the electricy is cheap there

18:36:44 indiancandy1: and the chicks got fat ass

18:36:55 mircea_popescu: the ass is nice, that's true.

18:37:17 indiancandy1: ya

18:37:17 kyuupichan: mircea_popescu: In east Washington state they have insanely cheap electricity; there is a lot of mining going on there

18:37:18 indiancandy1: it is

18:37:30 mircea_popescu: kyuupichan no argument. but still.

18:37:32 indiancandy1: ass ass ass ass

18:37:43 indiancandy1: boobs?

18:38:08 mircea_popescu: sure.

18:39:38 mircea_popescu: https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/ <<< wtf happened here ?

18:39:39 assbot: Game 17 - Death 5082 Life 4918 Year 68 - War of Life

18:39:45 mircea_popescu: did i just win like .87 btc ?

18:40:40 indiancandy1: omg

18:40:44 indiancandy1: its my birthday

18:40:45 indiancandy1: :P

18:40:48 indiancandy1: gift me

18:40:50 indiancandy1: some

18:41:26 indiancandy1: has anyone got

18:41:28 indiancandy1: snapchat

18:43:38 mircea_popescu: mnop

18:44:10 indiancandy1: have you got a smart phone mircea

18:44:17 indiancandy1: or you got a stone age

18:44:19 indiancandy1: 1

18:44:22 mircea_popescu: nope

18:44:24 asciilifeform: !up indiancandy1

18:44:31 indiancandy1: why not

18:44:37 mircea_popescu: i don't like them

18:44:45 indiancandy1: so how do u call ur mom

18:44:48 indiancandy1: n family back home

18:45:04 mircea_popescu: people use them to what, pretend like they're outside while pretending like they're on the computer ?

18:45:17 mircea_popescu: i'd rather do both of these well than mix them together into an unworkable porridge of shit.

18:45:29 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 i have a normal phone

18:45:39 mircea_popescu: AND a secretary.

18:45:48 mircea_popescu: well, more than one actually as it turns out

18:45:54 indiancandy1: does she give you bjs under the table

18:45:56 indiancandy1: or he*

18:46:18 mircea_popescu: notrly

18:46:30 mircea_popescu: that's a different skillset.

18:47:24 indiancandy1: i just thought u know bill clinton did it so

18:47:46 mircea_popescu: that was an aide.

18:47:54 mircea_popescu: no skillset.

18:48:00 asciilifeform: aide << 'secretute'

18:48:10 indiancandy1: secretute lmao

18:48:22 asciilifeform: секретутка.

18:48:31 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly enough, tuta pl tute is how you say stupid woman in romanian

18:48:32 indiancandy1: ascii are you romani aswell

18:48:34 mircea_popescu: well... one of the many ways

18:48:41 asciilifeform: indiancandy1: nope

18:48:54 mircea_popescu: yes he is, he just doesn't want to admit to the romanian yoke :D

18:49:02 asciilifeform: indiancandy1: you ought to know they ditched cyrillic there in... 1870s?

18:49:40 indiancandy1: can i ask something does the crystall ball thing actually work

18:49:46 mircea_popescu: ;;8ball

18:49:47 gribble: No.

18:50:11 indiancandy1: atleast the goverment gave the gypsies all there gold back aye

18:50:26 *: asciilifeform saw the world's officially largest crystal ball a few days ago

18:50:41 asciilifeform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_ball#mediaviewer/File:Quartz_crystal.jpg

18:50:42 assbot: Crystal ball - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

18:51:25 indiancandy1: os your in dc

18:51:27 indiancandy1: so*

18:51:41 indiancandy1: i kind of look like a romani gypsy

18:51:53 asciilifeform: indiancandy1: 10km or so

18:52:05 indiancandy1: mp do u think i do

18:52:19 mircea_popescu: kinda

18:53:13 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aklhk/i_just_found_this_crazy_game_of_life_battle_with/ o look, making friends

18:53:13 assbot: I just found this crazy game of life battle with Bitcoin : Bitcoin

18:53:14 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:53:45 indiancandy1: people sometimes think i am

18:54:00 indiancandy1: is romania in the mediternian sorry my geography is terible

18:54:11 asciilifeform: indiancandy1: maps.google.com

18:54:19 indiancandy1: or macedonia

18:55:38 indiancandy1: help !! my webcam is pixelated

18:55:44 indiancandy1: on mfc do i fix this

18:56:36 punkman: you need to get a flux capacitor

18:59:02 indiancandy1: any idea where i get this

18:59:19 indiancandy1: ;;flux capacitor

18:59:20 gribble: Error: "flux" is not a valid command.

18:59:33 indiancandy1: ;/

18:59:43 indiancandy1: ;;fluxcapacitor

18:59:43 gribble: Error: "fluxcapacitor" is not a valid command.

19:00:58 asciilifeform: unrelated: anybody here own a 'Yeeloong' ?

19:01:25 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 black sea ctually, but quite close anyway

19:02:11 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that the all-free-except-bios thing ?

19:02:24 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik it's the all-free-everything one

19:02:44 mircea_popescu: i thought the bios was still proprietary, lulziuly undermining the whole thing

19:03:16 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/PMON_2000

19:03:17 assbot: PMON 2000 - LinuxMIPS

19:04:06 asciilifeform: that box doesn't even need much in the way of a bios. just a little bootloader stub.

19:04:19 mircea_popescu: wow score ?

19:04:26 indiancandy1: mircea when u goin home

19:04:30 indiancandy1: il meet u

19:04:47 indiancandy1: cheap flights i can afford romai

19:04:50 asciilifeform: the 'loongson' machine are virtually unobtainable in usa.

19:05:13 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 might be a decade.

19:05:19 indiancandy1: why

19:05:22 indiancandy1: where is ur mom

19:05:50 mircea_popescu: romania

19:06:06 asciilifeform: 'pmon' includes built-in gdb stub, apparently. neato.

19:06:19 indiancandy1: dont you go visit them

19:06:28 indiancandy1: how can you not see your mom for 10years

19:06:36 *: asciilifeform might have to break down & pay an importer

19:06:36 indiancandy1: btw did argentina win the wc then

19:07:24 mircea_popescu: they're playing it now

19:07:32 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform interesting.

19:07:54 *: asciilifeform wonders where stallman got his

19:08:18 indiancandy1: did you get exhiled from romania

19:08:49 mircea_popescu: nope

19:09:06 mircea_popescu: i was gone for about a decade before.

19:09:07 kakobrekla: asciilifeform perhaps online loongson

19:09:08 kakobrekla: eh

19:09:12 kakobrekla: http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/"Show%20models%201"

19:09:12 assbot: Show model Lemote Yeeloong 8101B 10" mini-laptop Pure White-- High-end GNU Linux mini laptop - Tekmote Electronics

19:09:19 kakobrekla: 300eur

19:09:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 175 @ 0.0168 = 2.94 BTC [+]

19:09:48 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: that's the original. there's a nicer one, that has metallic chassis

19:09:52 kakobrekla: should have dropped by NL while in RO

19:10:01 kakobrekla: aha

19:10:04 indiancandy1: did you not see your mom since you was 25 :(

19:10:25 mircea_popescu: i only left romania recently.

19:10:35 kakobrekla: you mean this ascii: http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Products/CFL-008

19:10:35 assbot: Loongson 3A Notebook - Tekmote Electronics

19:11:10 asciilifeform: aha there it is.

19:11:23 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: have one ?

19:11:29 kakobrekla: nope

19:11:48 kakobrekla: hm, looks like fagbook

19:12:07 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: ever see a metallic chassis laptop that didn't ?

19:12:50 kakobrekla: dunno

19:12:50 kakobrekla: this

19:12:51 kakobrekla: http://www.notebookcheck.net/uploads/tx_nbc2/CF-19_01.jpg

19:12:58 asciilifeform: laptop market, afaik, still reduced to a choice between 'fagbook' and 'turdbook'

19:13:30 kakobrekla: as long as i can hammer nails with it.

19:13:31 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: that's the u.s. mil spec machine. it's mostly plastic.

19:13:38 kakobrekla: really?

19:13:39 asciilifeform: and ludicrously heavy

19:13:44 kakobrekla: lol

19:13:56 asciilifeform: you can get them by the crate, surplus. nobody wants.

19:14:27 asciilifeform: at any rate, 'loongson' isn't interesting because of the mechanicals.

19:14:30 kakobrekla: this too? http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Dell-e6420-XFR_g2_edited-1.jpg

19:14:45 kakobrekla: i see some bolts

19:14:45 indiancandy1: hmmm

19:14:47 kakobrekla: from the topside

19:14:52 kakobrekla: should be alu no?

19:14:54 asciilifeform: can't say i ever used one of these

19:14:55 asciilifeform: !up indiancandy1

19:15:02 indiancandy1: thanks ascii

19:15:23 kakobrekla: anyway, you CAN indeed make it alu and not look like fagbook

19:15:41 kakobrekla: may look like toaster instead

19:15:46 kakobrekla: but point achieved.

19:15:59 *: asciilifeform wants a 'sovbook'

19:18:04 mircea_popescu: lol

19:18:26 indiancandy1: so i showed my producer a video of me dancing at work yesterday and she said that there is spirits in the vide

19:18:29 indiancandy1: video

19:18:38 indiancandy1: freaked me right out

19:19:07 fluffypony: come on, Germany!

19:19:16 mircea_popescu: 60% possession.

19:20:42 fluffypony: well there we go

19:20:54 fluffypony: some movement

19:21:37 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you back in Argentina? what's the buzz on the street like?

19:22:17 mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah. pretty loud.

19:22:28 fluffypony: I can imagine

19:22:32 mircea_popescu: you can distinctly hear the game out the window, to the degree of fouls, saves, etc.

19:23:00 mircea_popescu: whole street is packed. (well the fact that i live within a block of the equivalent of say the washington monument doesn't help)

19:23:27 fluffypony: crazy

19:24:16 mircea_popescu: they shot some pretty respectable cherry bombs in the few hours runup

19:24:27 mircea_popescu: (during which the street was packed with people waiting for the game to start)

19:24:53 indiancandy1: sounds wonderful

19:25:00 indiancandy1: u should join the festivities

19:25:58 mircea_popescu: i'd rather listen to blur in concert.

19:26:18 indiancandy1: heroin addicts

19:26:20 indiancandy1: lavely

19:26:29 indiancandy1: but so yea can you see this video

19:26:43 indiancandy1: and watch at 36 seconds a light shoots across the room

19:26:52 indiancandy1: my producer is telling me its a spirit orb

19:27:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 202 @ 0.0132 = 2.6664 BTC [-] {3}

19:27:44 indiancandy1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd8Wm7AOI3U

19:27:44 assbot: YouTube

19:29:33 mircea_popescu: o wow.

19:29:35 mircea_popescu: score eh ?

19:29:47 mircea_popescu: wait.

19:30:00 mircea_popescu: these people blew their fucking top off because a german got a yellow card ?

19:30:04 mircea_popescu: im fucking scared now.

19:30:14 fluffypony: lol

19:30:34 fluffypony: tense moment

19:32:19 indiancandy1: did u see the orb

19:32:29 fluffypony: indiancandy1: watching the soccer, so no

19:33:06 mircea_popescu: fluffypony so fiverr has this glitch, whereby sometimes it gets paid for an order (via coinbase) but then... just ignores it. you ever had something like that happen ?

19:33:10 mircea_popescu: this is like the 3rd time.

19:33:30 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: no not yet - I pay it and its reflected immediately every time I use it

19:33:38 fluffypony: same with Bitpay on Namecheap

19:34:06 fluffypony: I wonder if it's not trying to update via some ajax call and you've disabled js so it doesn't update?

19:34:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.02890175 = 1.2139 BTC [-]

19:35:06 mircea_popescu: possible i guess

19:35:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 67 @ 0.01607462 = 1.077 BTC [+] {4}

19:35:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-]

19:35:17 mircea_popescu: kinda what i wanted to check, where to start the debug

19:35:32 fluffypony: if you refresh the page does it show up as paid?

19:35:36 mircea_popescu: (actually, more like i won't bother, it's not worth the occasional 5 bux to me.

19:35:43 mircea_popescu: if however it was a systemic problem, then yes)

19:35:46 mircea_popescu: mnop

19:35:50 fluffypony: waq

19:36:53 mircea_popescu: ;;ud waq

19:36:54 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WAQ | acronym for What A Queer. usually used in texts or photo comments. David sure does like to kneel in weird positions... WAQ!!! by squash89 April 25, 2011. 19 6.

19:37:06 fluffypony: hah hah

19:37:13 fluffypony: it's the fluffypony method of spelling wack

19:37:15 fluffypony: ;;ud wack

19:37:16 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wack | Example 1: Tracy: I'm all that and a bag of chips!..and then some! Rob: Shut yo wack ass up!.. and gets off my Grill. Example 2: Tracy: What did u do last night?

19:38:55 mircea_popescu: fluffypony apparently the problem only appears when using multipayment tx.

19:39:06 mircea_popescu: you ever did that ? owe for say a dozen jobs, pay out in 1 tx ?

19:39:20 fluffypony: no I haven't - only ever done 1 at a time

19:39:33 mircea_popescu: hm.

19:39:56 mircea_popescu: well, if anyone cares, it is the case coinbase may have a hole in how it handles multipayment txn then.

19:40:03 fluffypony: omfg so close

19:40:07 mircea_popescu: specifically, n-1 pages update and ty for the payment. but the nth... nope

19:44:39 fluffypony: the Germans are all over the Argentinian goal

19:47:00 mircea_popescu: yeah doesn't look so good for em

19:51:57 cazalla: mircea_popescu: there's no black people in australia, also little crime

19:52:54 mircea_popescu: "Jeff Garzik @jgarzik ? 5h Free business idea: Water heaters that mine #bitcoin. Decentralize mining and usefully shed excess heat, rather than waste it."

19:53:04 mircea_popescu: lol someone's reading b-a logs from last year ?

19:53:11 mircea_popescu: cazalla a ok then :p

19:54:10 kakobrekla: wait until they figure out you can do it on fpga.

19:55:45 mircea_popescu: fluffypony this thing's going to penalty.

19:56:39 kakobrekla: anyway it doesnt work. they dont roi even if you run them 24/7 and heaters you dont.

19:57:37 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yeah I think so too

19:57:43 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla it'll work when the tech is stable.

19:58:03 kakobrekla: stable over 10 years ?

19:58:06 kakobrekla: right.

19:58:14 mircea_popescu: yeah.

19:58:23 mircea_popescu: it'll happen, in spite of all the derpage re qc.

19:58:26 kakobrekla: in year 25 000 000

19:58:26 mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

19:58:32 gribble: Time since last block: 2 minutes and 54 seconds

19:58:37 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla coupla decades.

19:58:43 fluffypony: wow bets365 add on Sky Sport gives you live betting odds (well 30 seconds old)

19:58:47 fluffypony: *ad

19:59:16 kakobrekla: the biggest problem with that idea is that we prolly wont be computing on silicone then

19:59:42 kakobrekla: you can hardly heat up anything with wetware for example

19:59:46 mircea_popescu: i think we will, yes. silicone will get pushed to the end by say 2040, where you CAN get faster processors but it's not economically worth it.

19:59:56 mircea_popescu: and then, 20-50-100 years spent trying to make wetware work.

20:00:05 mircea_popescu: there won't be any qc computing. ever.

20:00:49 mircea_popescu: and so in 2050ish, it'll make prefect sense to put in a water heater cum btc miner.

20:01:01 mircea_popescu: principaly because that'll be strictly the only type of water heater available

20:01:02 punkman: qc would make for a good longbet

20:01:20 mircea_popescu: punkman my qc longbet is btc itself.

20:01:20 cazalla: mircea_popescu: i couldn't think of a witty retort at 6am so the autistic one will have to do :P

20:02:12 kakobrekla: ok so there might be a small window of stability which would allow for that idea to work, i give you that.

20:02:22 mircea_popescu: yup

20:02:31 mircea_popescu: all heating is temporary anyway.

20:03:50 kakobrekla: id still bet this wont happen on a mass scale.

20:04:06 kakobrekla: window too small.

20:04:22 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what do you think you'll heat yourself with in 2050 ? dead jews ?

20:04:34 mircea_popescu: very small rocks ?

20:04:43 mircea_popescu: memories of the great patriotic war ?

20:04:57 kakobrekla: prolly depends on the btc price.

20:04:59 mircea_popescu: humanity has no future outside of electricity anyway.

20:06:31 kakobrekla: ideally id have something like personal Toshiba 4S

20:09:33 mircea_popescu: small nuclear reactors aren't really worth it.

20:09:49 mircea_popescu: just build 100ish gw and be done with it

20:11:11 kakobrekla: but then the neighbors notice.

20:11:48 mircea_popescu: what neighbours

20:11:56 kakobrekla: :)

20:24:36 fluffypony: another yellow card, wtf

20:30:49 mircea_popescu: yellow card all the people!

20:36:18 mircea_popescu: did germany score ?

20:36:40 mircea_popescu: hm. no. street ppl just got pissed off.

20:40:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 40 @ 0.01385 = 0.554 BTC [+]

21:23:07 mircea_popescu: http://news.yahoo.com/putin-eyes-argentine-energy-third-stop-latam-tour-175220992.html;_ylt=AwrBEiLGTcJTIl8AKwvQtDMD

21:23:09 assbot: Putin, Kirchner seek 'multipolarity' in Argentina visit - Yahoo News

21:23:09 mircea_popescu: lol

21:25:08 fluffypony: FINALLY!

21:25:10 fluffypony: holy fuck

21:31:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18529443 = 0.9265 BTC [-]

21:39:32 cazalla: and that's that

21:41:18 mircea_popescu: germans you know ?

21:41:25 mircea_popescu: tired them the fuck out, so they could get that shot at the end

21:44:07 cazalla: riots begun?

21:44:45 mircea_popescu: they actually seem kinda peacible

21:44:56 mircea_popescu: i think they didn't really think they'll make it to the finals anyway

21:45:15 kakobrekla: nazis extradited yet?

21:47:59 mircea_popescu: lol

21:58:36 mircea_popescu: !up Belsage

22:00:52 punkman: consolation prize: "at least we weren't humiliated like those Brazilians"

22:01:42 mircea_popescu: apparently messi gets golden ball ?

22:14:18 mircea_popescu: ;;seen moiety

22:14:19 gribble: moiety was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 3 hours, 7 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <moiety> kk really away for reals this time, i'll check that when im out

22:29:26 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/y202CiZ.jpg

22:30:27 cazalla: what a shitlord

22:31:04 mircea_popescu: odds of it being meta... 9:2 ?

22:32:05 cazalla: 50% of 4chan is JIDF and the other half are people trolling each other

22:32:49 mthreat: the german player's name was götse. i can't beleive we are't seeing goatse memes

22:33:16 mircea_popescu: !up qazwsxedcrfv

22:33:19 mircea_popescu: ;;ud jdif

22:33:19 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JIDF | Jidf is an acronym for Jewish Internet Defense Force, an organization, whose job is to spread positive propaganda about Israel. Supporting Isreal o...

22:33:23 mircea_popescu: ;;ud jidf

22:33:24 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=JIDF | Jidf is an acronym for Jewish Internet Defense Force, an organization, whose job is to spread positive propaganda about Israel. Supporting Isreal o...

22:33:45 mircea_popescu: o i see, they're oppressing jewish dyslexuals.

22:36:52 mircea_popescu: mthreat http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/556424659

22:36:52 assbot: /b/ - Random

22:37:43 cazalla: /pol/ > /b/

22:44:50 qazwsxedcrfv: so, where can I short LTC?

22:45:58 cazalla: wow, i thought you were trolling that messi won golden ball

22:47:10 mircea_popescu: cazalla ikr ?

22:47:39 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust qazwsxedcrfv

22:47:39 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user qazwsxedcrfv: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=qazwsxedcrfv | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=qazwsxedcrfv | Rated since: never

22:47:42 mircea_popescu: you don't.

22:49:08 jurov: <mircea_popescu> ... they sent no less than 15 emails to my spam filter.<< was it coindesk? they were target of phishing and it looked exactly like this.

22:52:20 artifexd: BIDF!

22:52:34 mircea_popescu: http://boards.4chan.org/b/thread/556417895#q556417895

22:52:35 assbot: /b/ - Random

23:00:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.02890175 = 0.8671 BTC [-]

23:04:16 mircea_popescu: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1405290535657.png ahaha this is too fucking lulzy.

23:06:07 cazalla: pol already attacked tumblr the other week, many were triggered, a few suicides too

23:07:03 mircea_popescu: i can't remember what /pol/ is

23:07:44 cazalla: politics

23:07:59 cazalla: really more trolling white knights and marxists

23:08:13 mircea_popescu: a

23:08:45 cazalla: odd jew as well

23:08:52 cazalla: http://ohpi.org.au/4chans-pol-and-the-trouble-with-dean/ there is an aussie jew who takes the bait

23:08:55 assbot: Online Hate Prevention Institute » 4Chan’s /pol/ and the Trouble with Dean

23:10:09 cazalla: i have trolls remorse for poor ben garrison

23:10:43 mircea_popescu: "Online Hate Prevention Institute " ?!

23:11:36 mircea_popescu: what the fuck, this should be on kickstarter.

23:13:38 mircea_popescu: wait, the humourless fuck that made a cartoon in which some guy holding a guy fawkes mask is told by the mask, prophetically!11 "you are not as anon as you tihnk" complains that he doesn't understand why people deface his crap ?!

23:13:56 mircea_popescu: i saw that thing and my first thought was to deface it. because it's so fucking square, that's why.

23:14:03 cazalla: already been done

23:14:16 mircea_popescu: same thing that makes you want to punch a mongoloid kid makes you want to deface this guy's cartoon

23:14:23 mircea_popescu: and for the same fucking reason, i would imagine.

23:15:00 cazalla: https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1400/82/1400820980987.png

23:15:00 assbot: Human verification - 4plebs archive

23:15:43 cazalla: there's a few hilarious versions around, the shit they did to ben garrison is probably the lulziest shit i've ever seen online

23:16:21 mircea_popescu: lol

23:16:25 cazalla: poor bastard actually has a disclaimer on his website that no, he isn't the author of the anti semetic versions

23:17:38 mircea_popescu: which are actually better than his own work,

23:17:41 mircea_popescu: and made him famous

23:17:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.02890175 = 2.8902 BTC [-]

23:17:50 cazalla: pretty much

23:18:51 mircea_popescu: ahaha this article...

23:44:15 mircea_popescu: "Those like Dean need to be held accountable and 4chan and /pol/ in particular, need to look after their own shop. An online space with a little more freedom is a good thing, but it?s up to the community itself to warn people like Dean off when they go too far. "

23:44:31 mircea_popescu: epic. "a little freedom" ? "too far" ?

23:44:32 mircea_popescu: lolk.

23:50:35 danielpbarron: just got banned from #bitcoin http://danielpbarron.com/lol.txt

23:51:15 mircea_popescu: nice domain.

23:52:24 mircea_popescu: !up hanbot

23:52:43 hanbot: why ty

23:55:52 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/ojqQQe9.png << someone should ipo the ice sun.

23:59:05 mircea_popescu: ;;ud mfw

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