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00:11:53 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not bad.

00:12:33 mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> funny how little google and duckduckgo claim to know about al hayat and the islamic state report << that is all a coincidence that has nothing at all to do with what you *should* be knowing.

00:13:48 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla> check out the cluelessness << lol poor guy.

00:15:33 mircea_popescu: Dratel instead said that Ulbricht only ran Silk Road for ?a few months? after he created it. Finding it ?too stressful,? Ulbricht reportedly handed the website?s reins over to others. As a result, the defense argues that the government is prosecuting the wrong individual for building up a $1.2 billion black market, since Ulbricht is not Dread Pirate Roberts.

00:15:33 mircea_popescu: Back in 2013, a separate individual claiming to be Dread Pirate Roberts stated that he/she ?didn?t start the Silk Road, my predecessor did.?

00:15:51 mircea_popescu: howly shit, they finally found the defense that's gonna hung the jury.

00:16:10 mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.

00:16:34 asciilifeform: 'if chewbacca lives on endor you must acquit!'

00:17:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform proving identity online to an us jury ?

00:17:17 mircea_popescu: i dunno a prosecutor exists that woulnd't rather have any other task.

00:18:00 asciilifeform: did defense dispute the 'found with pants down, logged into sr shell' thing ?

00:18:22 mircea_popescu: i've not actually bothered to read teh actual filings

00:18:30 mircea_popescu: going off a skim of a summary here.

00:21:50 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: "some guy setup a fake Tinder profile with some stock photos" << somehow i suspect you just defined that thing.

00:22:47 mircea_popescu: "If you enjoyed this hard-hitting piece of investigative journalism, consider donating to" and some nonstandard btc address follows.

00:23:05 mircea_popescu: shockingly, this hard hitting journalist would be all in 3bitcoin.

00:47:04 ben_vulpes: mmm, lathed carrots.

00:47:33 ben_vulpes: they're not d-grade roots if you turn them down and get rid of the vile outside layer!

00:58:56 cazalla: ben_vulpes, what are lathed carrots?

01:00:32 cazalla: google leads me to believe they machine the shitty ones into cocktail carrots.. this i never knew, i like the ones i grow which end up looking like they have 2 legs and a cock

01:01:44 mircea_popescu: are there lathed feminists ?

01:02:04 mircea_popescu: "hey honey, there's a hundred pounds of woman in there somewhere".

01:05:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36398 @ 0.00053158 = 19.3484 BTC [+] {2}

01:05:23 ben_vulpes: i don't think i want lathed babes

01:06:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00055632 = 9.68 BTC [+]

01:06:21 *: asciilifeform pictures a retelling of 'pygmalion' involving meat and six-axis cnc milling...

01:06:35 asciilifeform: procrustalion!

01:06:35 cazalla: i've heard of meat glue though

01:08:07 ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stCKRExcRBA << huh turns out they're not even lathed

01:08:08 assbot: Baby Carrot line, Budget production line machines for the production of Baby Carrots production line - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/14Yrsoc )

01:08:18 ben_vulpes: but "polished"

01:08:21 ben_vulpes: today i learned...

01:10:20 cazalla: a real man pulls his carrots from the garden and eats em, dirt an all

01:13:20 ben_vulpes: CRITICAL_BLOCK

01:13:29 ben_vulpes: ah okay so this is the famed c++ concurrency story. rad.

01:13:40 ben_vulpes: recursive_mutex etc

01:13:43 ben_vulpes: WHEEEEEEE

01:13:53 *: ben_vulpes girds his loins

01:23:06 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

01:23:17 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.0, vol: 60876.00185126 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.999, vol: 39602.92108 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 219.39, vol: 151767.23879618 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 226.1, vol: 53.29606057 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 213.854766, vol: 326905.96360000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 218.05, vol: 199.13296717 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 217.708, vol: 410.37499069 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

01:23:23 ben_vulpes: daaaaang

01:23:42 mike_c: and this is before the hard fork.

01:24:04 cazalla: don't go under $200.. no whammy, no whammy, no whammy

01:24:11 mike_c: oh its going

01:24:22 thestringpuller: :D

01:24:37 thestringpuller: Look at all the panic we've caused. It's beautiful.

01:25:15 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcoin-on-the-agenda-for-ciscos-leadership-council-event/

01:29:12 felipelalli: Do you guys only write original news made by you or do you consult other news sources? Or not necessarily?

01:29:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5240 @ 0.00076026 = 3.9838 BTC [-] {6}

01:30:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3396 @ 0.00075177 = 2.553 BTC [-] {11}

01:31:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3783 @ 0.0007304 = 2.7631 BTC [-] {7}

01:32:32 cazalla: felipelalli, i guess it depends how much we've had to drink the night before

01:34:11 thestringpuller: felipelalli: Do you guys only write original news made by you... << this is misleading? Are you asking do we create news then report on it? Like in that james bond movie?

01:34:27 mircea_popescu: <mike_c> oh its going << all up to gavin at this point.

01:34:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1600 @ 0.00076424 = 1.2228 BTC [+] {2}

01:34:47 thestringpuller: i kinda want him to release statement "I'm going ahead with hard fork"

01:34:50 thestringpuller: more panic

01:34:52 thestringpuller: lower prices

01:34:58 mircea_popescu: not like anbything prevents the man from putting an announcement on their client, "MP was right, I was wrong but too stupid to realise, sorry all!"

01:35:03 thestringpuller: gobble up as many war coins as possible

01:35:30 felipelalli: ahahahah :) I mean: you guys go to street like reporters? Like "original research"? Or compilation from other sources? Sorry for ask, not offence.

01:35:51 thestringpuller: i'm moving into on the street reporting, but we also have done digital forensics

01:35:53 mircea_popescu: felipelalli the bitpay fireparty was exclusive to qntra for instance.

01:36:11 ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L760 << if this is what's necessary to pull an input out of the db to fill a sendto, the db is not working for you.

01:36:13 assbot: bitcoin/wallet.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8Nlyp )

01:36:16 felipelalli: very nice!

01:36:19 felipelalli: congratulations.

01:36:53 ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L778 << i mean lolwut?

01:36:55 assbot: bitcoin/wallet.cpp at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8Ny4E )

01:37:11 felipelalli: I know you guys have an original analysis, but I was wondering if you make digital forensics or go to street interview the people.

01:37:31 *: ben_vulpes sighs

01:38:34 thestringpuller: lol random_shuffle

01:38:55 thestringpuller: have you git blamed that yet?

01:39:03 ben_vulpes: naw i don't even care yo

01:39:47 ben_vulpes: in the process of running down how vins get populated, just thought i'd share some lulz

01:40:08 thestringpuller: felipelalli: we were running digital forensics on changetip but they're platform is too fucktarded to track accurately.

01:40:37 asciilifeform: not like anbything prevents the man from putting an announcement... "MP was right... << impalement ?

01:40:48 mircea_popescu: so ?

01:40:56 asciilifeform: or whatever the nice folks handling gavin have in store for his cowardly skin

01:40:57 mircea_popescu: why all this pretense like impalent is the summum malum ?

01:41:01 mircea_popescu: there's worse things than dieing.

01:41:03 felipelalli: thestringpuller: but do you talk to them? Like interview?

01:41:08 mircea_popescu: there's certainly worse things than spending 30 years upstate.

01:41:13 asciilifeform: brave man dies just once.

01:41:28 thestringpuller: i've never reached out but cazalla has on occassion to various entities he's covering :P

01:41:42 mircea_popescu: any particular something you got in mind felipelalli ?

01:41:44 ben_vulpes: with all the hoojum around wallets and the db, i can't help but suspect that all the state the reference client should really maintain in terms of db is a) block indices and b) unspent txout pool

01:42:07 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes exactly my view.

01:42:18 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: that sounds like more than enough to run a node.

01:43:09 thestringpuller: this file is loaded with boost_cpp

01:43:19 ben_vulpes: utxo lets you trivially find outputs of your own to spend

01:43:31 ben_vulpes: block indices let you dump the blockchain into a rich datastore

01:43:52 ben_vulpes: utxo also lets miners verify transactions, an important thing to preserve imho

01:43:57 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes since i have your ear, allow me to privilege some actual business complaints.

01:44:06 ben_vulpes: oh god help us

01:44:12 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/

01:44:12 assbot: Bitcoind : not quite ready for prime time pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xmxwxj )

01:44:17 mircea_popescu: make it not fucking fail like gavinshitcoin.

01:44:53 ben_vulpes: lolk

01:45:04 ben_vulpes: i'm not really seeing a future for sendmany

01:45:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8102 @ 0.00058195 = 4.715 BTC [+]

01:46:04 mircea_popescu: gotta have a future for sendmany or else no txn at all.

01:46:12 mircea_popescu: i must be able to create my own change addresses.

01:47:28 ben_vulpes: no way. transaction cooking is a job for the person cooking transactions, not the RI.

01:47:49 ben_vulpes: you want a change addr, you new up a change addr and include precisely how much change you want it to have.

01:48:25 ben_vulpes: i have no problem with a bitcoin that makes txns of arbitrary size.

01:48:48 ben_vulpes: i imagine you've found a way to get it to make them, what with all the "murder gavincoin" talk i've heard.

01:49:42 ben_vulpes: (i encourage argument on the topic! conflict being productive and all.)

01:52:10 scoopbot: New post on fraudsters by Mircea Popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2015/peripateticists-kinda-except-girls-not-boys-bare-cunt-instead-of-toga-and-walking-around-the-house-not-the-garden-but-otherwise-exactly-the-same/

01:52:27 thestringpuller: what a link

01:55:12 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's trying to break http/2 already

01:56:15 *: asciilifeform still doesn't grasp the excitement the livestock butchery thing caused

01:59:59 asciilifeform: 'Her: If violence conquers all, even argument, why are you training me in logic instead of shooting? Me: You gotta be willing and able to stand for what you believe in. If you're not, you might as well be a rabbit. And if you recall I have on numerous occasions indicated that you must meet minimal standards of violence.' << interesting! :

02:00:11 asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu have marksmanship standards for the gurlz ?

02:05:11 []bot: Bet placed: 4.2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 54(Y):46(N) by coin, 43(Y):57(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.63877896 BTC. Current weight: 51,535.

02:07:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00055448 = 7.0973 BTC [-]

02:08:40 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes point is, i gotta be able to make list x pay list y in one tx.

02:09:13 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was never disclosed

02:09:34 asciilifeform: ah.

02:16:59 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

02:17:00 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 220.24, Best ask: 220.41, Bid-ask spread: 0.17000, Last trade: 220.25, 24 hour volume: 59177.96008404, 24 hour low: 216.0, 24 hour high: 258.49, 24 hour vwap: 0

02:17:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5797 @ 0.00055448 = 3.2143 BTC [-]

02:17:37 kakobrekla: ..

02:18:10 felipelalli: mircea_popescu: I was wondering because I really love the articles there and sometimes I didn't find the "original source".

02:22:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00055448 = 13.6957 BTC [-]

02:25:04 thestringpuller: sometimes original source is not available to public :P

02:25:09 thestringpuller: #watergate

02:25:23 thestringpuller: #wikileaks

02:31:14 felipelalli: thestringpuller: true :)

02:36:29 thestringpuller: cazalla: you gonna be at the computer for a minute?

02:37:12 cazalla: i will be until a scream comes over the baby monitor that someone is awake and demands lunch

03:04:16 mod6: anyone wanna test a shell script?

03:06:56 mod6: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=A182nMiK

03:06:58 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DENYkU )

03:08:31 thestringpuller: mod6: it doesn't work

03:08:52 mod6: pm me the error

03:09:56 mod6: or quit trolling :P

03:38:47 mircea_popescu: Error 10042 : It doesn't work.

03:40:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2803 @ 0.00055448 = 1.5542 BTC [-]

03:40:55 PeterL: mod6 what does your script do?

03:41:12 TheNewDeal: lotta shitty miners getting squeezed out othe marketplace, or what's with the 2 month long hash freeze?

03:44:29 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

03:44:33 gribble: Current Blocks: 338861 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1842 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 37632855784.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -14.41566

03:47:06 mod6: PeterL: builds the patched R.I. and compiles it

03:47:38 mod6: pulls all the patch packages, checks the hashes, checks the signatures.

03:48:11 mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, hmm.

03:48:30 mod6: oh well, w/e.

03:48:36 mod6: worked for me.

03:49:46 mod6: i hate shell scripts.

03:50:17 TomServo: Waterfall back in action...another 4300 or so evacuated.

03:50:24 TomServo: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2

03:50:27 assbot: Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1IudBoG )

03:51:46 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1E88Y6A.txt )

03:51:46 asciilifeform: !b 3

03:55:34 TheNewDeal: who controls that?

03:55:52 asciilifeform: hitler.

03:55:55 TomServo: lol

03:56:07 TomServo: That's ethereum's wallet

03:56:48 TheNewDeal: nice

03:58:03 TheNewDeal: it's like an inverse graph of ethereum support.

03:58:43 PeterL: anybody guess the probability ethereum ever becomes a working thing?

04:00:02 TheNewDeal: well if you're an ethereum dev, it already has done that

04:00:49 TheNewDeal: it's turned shit into capital - voila

04:09:09 TheNewDeal: anyone here tried eating melatonin before? any noticeable results?

04:11:17 mthreat: yes. first time it gave me the most intense nightmare I've ever had.

04:11:53 mthreat: after that, not so much, and it has helped me go to sleep, but I felt a bit groggy in the morning so I stopped taking it.

04:11:59 dub: just made me sleep better

04:12:28 joecool: i only use it in low dose for jet lag, it's not practical for daily use (and for me the store dosages are way too high)

04:12:41 mthreat: I would recommend taking 1/2 mg to start, up to 1mg max.

04:12:43 BingoBoingo: mirtazapine is generally the best for inducing trippy weird Vexual like dreams

04:12:46 joecool: i usually use 1.5mg for that use case... any more and groggy mornings

04:12:49 mthreat: they sell 3mg pills, that is too much, I think

04:13:41 dub: fixin to get exual

04:13:51 dub: wtf

04:13:53 joecool: BingoBoingo: vitamin b6 will usually give messed up dreams too

04:14:01 dub: Vexual

04:14:24 TheNewDeal: stuff I bought from drug store was 5mg chewies

04:14:41 BingoBoingo: joecool: There's a bunch of stuff that messes with dreaming.

04:14:53 Adlai: calea z

04:14:54 TheNewDeal: thought I read online that the body synthesizes the stuff from Tryptophan tho?

04:15:34 joecool: well you get the same effect of taking melatonin at a much lower level if you just turn your lights off and lay down in the dark for a bit

04:15:41 Adlai: "Users take the plant to help them remember their dreams; side effects include hallucinations, nausea, and vomiting."

04:16:03 dub: going out in the sun works

04:16:14 dub: problematic for #b-a shutins

04:16:38 mthreat: bah, get a sun desktop background :)

04:17:09 TheNewDeal: I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for meh

04:17:24 dub: whisky

04:21:29 kakobrekla: test

04:21:31 kakobrekla: !b 3

04:21:31 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( TheNewDeal: I'm working in the sunny south and it starting to get some poor sleep. If I wake up to go to the bathroom I am having trouble getting back to sleep. This is atypical for meh dub: whisky kakobrekla: test )

04:21:45 kakobrekla: aha

04:24:15 kakobrekla: !b 3

04:24:15 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( kakobrekla: test kakobrekla: !b 3 kakobrekla: aha )

04:24:29 kakobrekla: doh lol

04:26:59 BingoBoingo: !b 2

04:27:00 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( kakobrekla: !b 3 kakobrekla: doh lol )

04:27:22 kakobrekla: wait wut

04:28:20 BingoBoingo: Nah just paper over it

04:28:32 kakobrekla: mhm

04:28:34 kakobrekla: !b 3

04:28:35 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2718MNX.txt )

04:34:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4579 @ 0.0007418 = 3.3967 BTC [-] {8}

04:39:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10398 @ 0.00056568 = 5.8819 BTC [+]

04:48:21 ben_vulpes: hola bigtip

04:54:46 mircea_popescu: you know it kinda sucks that there's no city called buenos tardes in argentina.

04:55:59 asciilifeform: !up Alina-malina

04:56:05 mircea_popescu: mod6:i hate shell scripts. << i wasn't serious man. just joking around his error.

04:56:08 asciilifeform: Alina-malina: who might you be ?

04:56:14 mod6: oh srsly?

04:56:25 mod6: i've been like killing kittens for like 30 minutes

04:56:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24004 @ 0.00056568 = 13.5786 BTC [+]

04:56:32 mircea_popescu: shit

04:56:36 mircea_popescu: i shoud be more careful

04:56:49 mod6: haha. no worries.

04:56:57 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: probably a badmouthed set of points

04:57:25 mircea_popescu: TomServo: https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 << that the ethereum "investment" address ?

04:57:29 assbot: Bitcoin Balance of bitcoin address: 36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ya4yHX )

04:57:32 BingoBoingo: Indeed

04:57:33 mircea_popescu: aha

04:57:59 mircea_popescu: lol. for all the redditard "consensus" and "Community" i can never find someone to write me a fucking short worth ten bucks on their idiotic ideas.

04:58:17 mircea_popescu: nobody wants to buy gavincoins atm, either. been asking around, zilch actual support

04:58:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16781 @ 0.00058654 = 9.8427 BTC [+] {2}

04:58:34 mircea_popescu: "oh there's 100% support with the gab, 0% support with the purse, how could this not succeed"

04:58:54 asciilifeform: same as the buterin thing

04:59:03 mircea_popescu: PeterL: anybody guess the probability ethereum ever becomes a working thing? << epsilon, when it was announced. that was a while back.

04:59:24 mircea_popescu: wow mthreat's in da house. how goes man ?

04:59:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2880 @ 0.00058725 = 1.6913 BTC [+]

05:00:42 mircea_popescu: dub: problematic for #b-a shutins << you should see the bright suns of argentina, northern boi.

05:01:32 asciilifeform: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA03520.jpg << the bright suns of argentina ?

05:01:36 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ya58p1 )

05:02:25 mircea_popescu: lol

05:03:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's actually great, the sun of my childhood. back when i was a kid i loved the sun, but then something sort-of changed at some point, past decade or so i couldn't even look at the fucking sky in the daytime. i kinda untinkingly just figured it's... gone.

05:03:33 mircea_popescu: got here, discovered that the exact thing i knew as a boy still exists.

05:03:43 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, same! i assumed it was on account of moving to north a.

05:03:44 mircea_popescu: i imagine it's some sort of northern hemisphere polution or other.

05:04:25 mircea_popescu: just, this very bright but nondestructive sun.

05:04:29 mircea_popescu: mebbe ozone layer hole ? who knows.

05:05:02 asciilifeform: i bought a uv dosimeter as learning such a thing existed. because burns after 40 min. or so.

05:05:09 asciilifeform: no such thing in childhood.

05:05:23 asciilifeform: assumed - ozone.

05:08:05 mircea_popescu: well it makes no sense because hole should be right here

05:10:52 ben_vulpes: why should the hole be over ba?

05:11:36 mircea_popescu: isn't antarctica where the hole supposedly was /

05:11:55 TomServo: That's my recollection.

05:12:39 dub: sun here is brutal

05:14:00 mircea_popescu: tropical summer, ba sun's pleasant. bright winter day in mass, no snow or anything, sun's too much.

05:14:12 mircea_popescu: there's something at work here.

05:14:24 dub: takes like 10 minutes to get sunburned

05:14:51 dub: they actually track burn time in weather forecasting

05:15:08 *: mircea_popescu recalls going to seaside with fambly as 5yo, spending whole day (10am to 3-4 pm ?) in sun building castles. turning distinctly indian colored.

05:15:13 mircea_popescu: no uv screens back then either.

05:15:26 mircea_popescu: but i never had a sunburn.

05:15:30 dub: yeah, dem greenhouse gases

05:15:34 mircea_popescu: mebbe

05:16:21 *: asciilifeform also built castles, around same era, within ~900km of mircea_popescu, same latitude, no burns

05:16:41 mircea_popescu: is it even 900km to odessa ?!

05:16:46 mircea_popescu: ;;google distance constanta odessa

05:16:47 gribble: Varna.info - Constanta to Varna Travel: http://www.varna.info/constanta-to-varna/; Constanța to Odessa by bus, car, plane | Rome2rio: http://www.rome2rio.com/s/Constan%C8%9Ba/Odessa; Trains, buses, airplanes to / from Moldova. Options, time table: http://www.marisha.net/crossroads.htm

05:16:48 dub: I got 3rd degree burns when i was 10 or so from a full day lying on beach and surfboard, back and legs turned to one big blister

05:17:02 dub: but yeah, no sunblock back then

05:17:04 mircea_popescu: i never had skin peel.

05:17:28 dub: I spend a lot of time in the sun

05:17:55 mircea_popescu: i thought you were a dc monkey.

05:18:07 mircea_popescu: "we have a luminator!"

05:19:10 dub: [23:13] <dub> fixin to get exual

05:19:17 dub: er

05:19:44 asciilifeform: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=constanta+romania+to+odessa+ukraine

05:19:48 assbot: constanta romania to odessa ukraine - Wolfram|Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1ya7STo )

05:19:58 asciilifeform: wolframator claims: ~300km

05:20:47 mircea_popescu: seems more like it

05:21:08 mircea_popescu: prolly 500ish if you drive

05:21:17 dub: its 26c here, at 18:00. The sea is 22-24c so I try to stay in that as mush as possible around this time of year

05:22:09 cazalla: listen to all these amatuers talk about getting sun burnt.. one of the highest rates of skin cancer in the world!

05:22:16 cazalla: down under that is

05:22:39 mircea_popescu: only because the snake & spider venom protects you from it.

05:23:03 mircea_popescu: otherwise au cancers'd have the greatest incidence of attached human tissue or something

05:23:08 dub: or because the avg oz cant work out hoe to dress itself

05:23:37 cazalla: personally i cut the melanomas off with a bowie knife

05:24:00 dub: fuckin chew them off mate, wash it down with a vb

05:24:28 dub: [00:19] <dub> [23:13] <dub> fixin to get exual

05:24:33 dub: lel fuck

05:25:19 mircea_popescu: ;;google instructions on how to use a modern keyboard for dub and others in need

05:25:20 gribble: DubTurbo - Easy To Use Beat Maker & Music Production Software + ...: http://www.dubturbo.com/; Hip Hop Beat Construction Made Easy - TweakHeadz: http://tweakheadz.com/hip-hop-beat-construction-made-easy-the-elements-of-a-beat-arranging-beats-orchestrating-beats-sound-creation-and-production-tips-for-hip-hop/; Ambient music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: (1 more message)

05:25:38 *: dub hits turbo boost

05:25:42 mircea_popescu: clearly.

05:26:05 mircea_popescu: ;;google how to make a search engine that didn't suck.

05:26:06 gribble: Amazon.com: Search Engine Marketing That Doesn't Suck (Punk ...: http://www.amazon.com/Search-Engine-Marketing-Doesnt-Collection-ebook/dp/B00CKCQI7K; A search engine built by the crowd, that does not suck | archify blog: http://blog.archify.com/2013/07/11/a-search-engine-built-by-the-crowd-that-does-not-suck/; New search UI coming in Firefox 34 | Mozilla Add-ons Blog: (1 more message)

05:29:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 7323 @ 0.00071575 = 5.2414 BTC [-] {22}

05:29:54 mod6: so, when I googled: Error 10042

05:30:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.00056227 = 31.3184 BTC [-] {2}

05:30:15 mod6: it came back with windows TCP Socket Errors. I was like ... WTF?! RAGE!

05:30:44 mod6: lol. had me goin'

05:30:46 BingoBoingo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7QppaqCQAAVtUR.jpg:large

05:30:47 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ya9Djw )

05:31:20 mircea_popescu: i kinda made it up on the idea that dumbass windows errors are 1000xx sort of thing

05:31:35 mod6: haha. it was spot on.

05:32:14 mod6: i thought it had to have something to do with the curl commands. but couldn't sort it out.

05:32:39 asciilifeform: ;;google guru meditation error

05:32:40 gribble: Guru Meditation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guru_Meditation; What the heck is this Virtualbox Guru Meditation error about ...: http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/2014/09/heck-virtualbox-guru-meditation-error/; Service Unavailable - Guru Meditation - Varnish cache server - Drupal: https://www.drupal.org/node/1930488

05:33:05 mod6: was like "i /knew/ i should have just wrote it in perl".

05:34:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.109223 = 3.2767 BTC [-]

05:35:53 mircea_popescu: mod6 why, so at least you'd be ok with it failing ? :D

05:38:38 mod6: hahah

05:39:06 mod6: i typically have a bit of a more painful time writing shell scripts

05:40:39 mod6: back in the day, you had to really know the differences in syntax between sh, bash, ksh, csh, tcsh, zsh etc. It was such a headache. Then along comes perl...

05:41:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00058954 = 15.5049 BTC [+] {2}

05:41:22 mircea_popescu: yeah this is strangely never mentioned

05:41:27 mod6: left my memorzation of all the nuances of the shells in the past

05:42:22 asciilifeform: not mentioned for the same reason sky being blue is rarely mentioned - abundantly clear that an atrocity like perl had to offer a mega-win to catch on (and it did genuinely, organically catch on)

05:44:03 *: ben_vulpes only learned from working with mod6

05:44:15 ben_vulpes: learned *this*

05:44:56 mircea_popescu: yeah i guess so

05:45:20 ben_vulpes: explains why so many sages under whom i've labored have been all about the perl

05:46:25 mod6: i dunno, i like it. it's built around lexigraphical parsing and list processing. i've gotten comfortable in there over the years.

05:47:03 ben_vulpes: list processing's a pretty neat programming model yeah

05:47:37 ben_vulpes: also explains why soooo many terminal programs are extensible with you know "perl, and maybe some other languages if you absolutely must"

05:48:09 *: asciilifeform confesses that he has never written, or used, an extension for a terminal

05:48:40 *: mircea_popescu is waiting for terminal 2.0, extended with css instead of language.

05:49:02 *: asciilifeform tests barf bag

05:49:12 *: mod6 screams in agony

05:49:45 ben_vulpes: that's...inhumane.

05:49:54 mircea_popescu: but you could use other fonts besides comic ?

05:50:14 ben_vulpes: yeah i could have emojiterm

05:50:20 ben_vulpes: with inline gifs

05:50:23 mod6: comic sans shell, be like something from maddox

05:50:24 mircea_popescu: are you opposing women in bash ?

05:50:58 ben_vulpes: no wai emojiterm is the missing piece of wimminz in tech

05:51:06 ben_vulpes: quickly i must kickstart this

05:51:15 ben_vulpes: kickshart

05:51:19 mircea_popescu: make sure you're transparent.

05:52:08 *: asciilifeform long awaits 'suckstarter', successor to 'kickstarter'

05:52:55 mod6: suckstarter will be the new facebook for broke hoz

05:53:05 mod6: i can't wait

05:54:40 ben_vulpes: http://cwguy.com/wp-images/upload/File/200802/01/IMG_2452.JPG << amidoinitrite?

05:54:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yadrkN )

05:55:01 asciilifeform: wat

05:57:16 mircea_popescu: was that rubber ?

05:58:11 ben_vulpes: it's a broken hose, asciilifeform!

05:58:29 asciilifeform: well yes.

05:59:23 ben_vulpes: different topic y'all

05:59:41 mircea_popescu: eh just put some caulk on it.

05:59:44 ben_vulpes: how is this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L1003) a legit use of this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/script.cpp#L1163)

06:00:54 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'solver' can fail

06:01:14 ben_vulpes: sure...

06:01:33 mircea_popescu: so can verify solution

06:01:37 ben_vulpes: this is probably me not grokking c. how does the function with a signature of like 6 args get called legitimately with 4?

06:02:12 ben_vulpes: the first of which doesn't even seem to be a keystore

06:02:19 ben_vulpes: CKeyStore

06:02:49 mircea_popescu: are the first 2 defaults ?

06:03:20 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: cpp. declared with 5. last is default.

06:03:27 mircea_popescu: it occurs to me this is pretty horribru programming.

06:04:04 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/f914f1a746d7f91951c1da262a4a749dd3ebfa71/src/script/sign.h#L17

06:04:05 assbot: bitcoin/sign.h at f914f1a746d7f91951c1da262a4a749dd3ebfa71 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1wY6Qnz )

06:04:41 ben_vulpes: waahahahaha

06:04:43 ben_vulpes: are you serious

06:04:54 ben_vulpes: okay cool well i guess that makes sense

06:05:18 asciilifeform: as far as cppisms go, this is nothing at all.

06:05:58 ben_vulpes: sure, i guess

06:06:31 ben_vulpes: so that's two exported versions of the same function that are "polymorphic" as i understand the term on argument types?

06:07:01 asciilifeform: i may have linked to the current turd instead of 0.5.3

06:07:06 mircea_popescu: why would anyone want to do this

06:07:27 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, that's the current version

06:07:27 mircea_popescu: i apparently understsnd even less of coding than i had thought.

06:07:56 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: polymorphism? so you can use 'plus' on quaternions, bignum ints, and smallints, and it remains called 'plus' - etc.

06:08:05 mircea_popescu: nono

06:08:11 asciilifeform: polyadic functions?

06:08:14 mircea_popescu: export a differently defined prototype of thje same function same name

06:08:28 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/script.h#L700

06:08:30 assbot: bitcoin/script.h at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1yafup9 )

06:08:37 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha

06:09:24 ben_vulpes: i'm still not understanding how the *this argument (which looks like a bool?!) is turning into a CKeyStore

06:11:14 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in cpp, 'this' points to current object.

06:11:42 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes is new to cpp ?

06:12:49 ben_vulpes: no, i understand the this pointer. what i'm failing to understand is how the reference to the object from which SignSignature is called can in any way be coerced to a CKeyStore

06:13:39 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a bit, yeah. picking it up relatively quickly.

06:13:56 ben_vulpes: my problem with the bitcoin codebase is not cpp (that's just another language), but the insane class hierarchies i have to hold in my head

06:14:08 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you probably already own b. stroustrup, but for n00bs i like to give s. lippman's 'primer'

06:14:35 ben_vulpes: mthanks

06:15:09 *: ben_vulpes is still hung on the CKeyStore coercion

06:15:52 *: asciilifeform once fed 'lippman' to pet. it turned out that she had been fed it already as a child

06:16:06 *: ben_vulpes will now have to shelve and reserve Siebel for late night palate cleanser

06:16:13 asciilifeform: and was already an accomplished hater of the language.

06:17:18 ben_vulpes: ah okay i get it

06:17:38 ben_vulpes: CWallet inherits from CCryptoKeyStore

06:17:41 ben_vulpes: derp

06:18:10 ben_vulpes: thanks, asciilifeform!

06:18:19 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ever tried http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/ebrowse.html ?

06:18:21 assbot: A Class Browser for C++ ... ( http://bit.ly/1wY9xWn )

06:18:32 *: ben_vulpes eyes bulge

06:18:37 ben_vulpes: NO

06:18:45 mircea_popescu: i wonder how much stuff like "let's make a readable, minimal implementation of bitcoin" would increase adoption.

06:18:57 mircea_popescu: as opposed to misguided efforts at "let's bloat everything with more of the same stupid"

06:19:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for example, it will become possible to write a book about how the damn thing works.

06:19:31 mircea_popescu: brb making a reddit survey.

06:19:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specifically in the style of the 'lions book'

06:19:53 ben_vulpes: okay i guess i'm not getting anything done on the cpp for a few days while i get up to speed on ebrowse

06:19:54 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, seven years later o.O

06:19:59 asciilifeform: http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/

06:20:00 assbot: Commentary on the Sixth Edition UNIX Operating System ... ( http://bit.ly/1wY9PN1 )

06:20:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that book doesn't exist because o'reilly didn't publish it.

06:20:36 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as (i think) i told jurov & co., it is my intention to eventually write this book. if live long enough.

06:20:38 ben_vulpes: "Without such a tool you often end up greping through dozens or even hundreds of files." << yeah exactly. EXACTLY.

06:21:26 *: mircea_popescu smiles at the original premise of the entire foss movement rebirthed. "by working on intelligent tasks with intelligent people you become more intelligent yourself. this is more important than money"

06:21:49 *: ben_vulpes can't hear anything over the sound of brain fabric ripping

06:23:33 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there are other, i think, similar proggies

06:23:40 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're not going to die man. at the very most, you'll be set in a room for 30 years' stretch. at a time where you're old enough to not really miss women so much anymore, and old enough to really appreciate the stability of 3 regular, predictable meals a day.

06:24:02 asciilifeform: then i can finally write 'mein kampf.'

06:24:07 mircea_popescu: right.

06:24:08 asciilifeform: or wait, i think that one's out already

06:24:34 mircea_popescu: well, use different parameters.

06:24:45 mircea_popescu: then it can still be called "mein kampf"

06:25:05 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ever read 'Schachnovelle' ?

06:25:19 mircea_popescu: (and yes ftr /me is nonplussed with the idiotic idea of ambiguously calling everythning "plus". it creates the sort of idiots that imagines they can do statistics work because they can add integers on their fingers)

06:25:53 mircea_popescu: nope.

06:25:56 BingoBoingo: http://doccartoon.blogspot.com/2015/01/dr-orthochick-upscale.html

06:25:58 assbot: A Cartoon Guide to Becoming a Doctor: Dr. Orthochick: Upscale ... ( http://bit.ly/1yaii5w )

06:26:10 artifexd: <ben_vulpes> so that's two exported versions of the same function that are "polymorphic" as i understand the term on argument types? << The proper term is "overloaded"

06:26:10 asciilifeform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_Game << pediwik, for n00bz

06:26:12 assbot: The Royal Game - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1yaikdG )

06:26:38 mircea_popescu: im not a great fan of... whatever the fuck that was, german lumpenmodernism

06:27:54 asciilifeform: not a titanic work of literature, but relevant. fella goes mad on account of getting locked up for a while with naught but a chess book.

06:28:58 mircea_popescu: eh it's not how it works, unless fella's a little broken in the head.

06:30:15 mircea_popescu: "Mr. [Patient] is a 39 year old gentleman who sustained several anterior dislocations of his right shoulder when he was involved in martial arts as part of an underground fighting group. He did not seek treatment for these and the problem worsened after he lifted heavy weights while in prison. He presents today with his caretaker, who states that because of his impulsive and self-destructive behavior secondary to bipol

06:30:15 mircea_popescu: ar disorder with psychosis, it is difficult for him to follow any sort of treatment plan."

06:30:56 *: mircea_popescu is tempted to hire the man.

06:32:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.00053341 = 26.8305 BTC [-] {3}

06:32:48 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aren't medical blogs the best.

06:33:24 mircea_popescu: not bad.

06:33:54 BingoBoingo: Not necessarily as literature, but as a replacement for LinkedIN

06:35:21 ben_vulpes: ty artifexd

06:36:02 Elian11: reading scroll back :IMO a pure Python Bitcoin client would open up development to a lot of coders

06:36:26 asciilifeform: 'would open up development to a lot of coders' << why would anyone wish this to happen ?

06:37:13 Elian11: the usual suspects for "Open Source" development

06:37:46 ben_vulpes: Elian11: i envision a future where journeymen write their own bitcoin implementations

06:38:03 ben_vulpes: "undergraduate exercise"

06:38:14 Elian11: Whats the point if you are not going to help people up?

06:38:17 mircea_popescu: that future's pretty much certain.

06:39:14 mircea_popescu: Elian11 helping people up does not consist of encouraging passengers to bring their own clothes for the airplane.

06:39:33 mircea_popescu: airplanes don't, generally, want clothes. and passengers are invited to play dress-up at home, on their blogs with css and whatever.

06:40:23 mircea_popescu: course a klm flight with a large russian hat atop the cockpit would be kinda funny to look at.

06:41:01 Elian11: I mean up, as in: level up their skills.

06:41:27 BingoBoingo: !b 2

06:41:28 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1WCK033.txt )

06:41:39 asciilifeform: 'level up skills' at home, under a blanket.

06:41:47 Elian11: You know that song by Michael Jackson, Man in the Mirror

06:42:36 asciilifeform: obligatory naggum: 'I don't _want_ Joe Blows' Homemade Microwave Oven, OK?' ( http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3065132899827911@naggum.no.html )

06:42:37 assbot: Re: Why lisp failed in the marketplace - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1yakU3c )

06:43:06 Elian11: It's my fav. song. And, i think that more people understanding is a good thing

06:43:24 mircea_popescu: your favourite song is michale jackson's man in the mirror ?!

06:43:44 mircea_popescu: what are you, the polish chick in Friends ?

06:44:11 Elian11: ^ yes thats what i write

06:44:48 mircea_popescu: prolly the funniest thing in spanish is that "successful" is "exitoso/a".

06:44:50 mircea_popescu: exit-y.

06:45:46 mircea_popescu: hm, lisa kudrow is not actually polish. that show's got nothing now ;/

06:46:05 mircea_popescu: i had honestly thought they were making dumb polack jokes.

06:46:55 BingoBoingo: !b 2

06:46:56 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2FM8AA1.txt )

06:48:15 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

06:48:16 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 206.51, Best ask: 206.65, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 206.77, 24 hour volume: 56651.01119185, 24 hour low: 203.0, 24 hour high: 250.01, 24 hour vwap: 228.336912025

06:48:27 mircea_popescu: look at that, exchanges holding on for dear life over 200

06:49:24 artifexd: http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-feb/

06:49:25 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb :: 6.25 B (54%) on Yes, 5.38 B (46%) on No | closing in 1 week 17 hours | weight: 50`499 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1wYfnXD )

06:49:40 mircea_popescu: heh yea

06:50:17 artifexd: Imma be pissed if it drops below 200 before the next block confirms

06:50:20 artifexd: ;;tslb

06:50:24 gribble: Time since last block: 24 minutes and 42 seconds

06:50:40 mircea_popescu: heh

06:51:59 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

06:52:03 gribble: Current Blocks: 338875 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1828 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 8 hours, 14 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 37387158306.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -14.97443

06:52:22 Elian11: DAMMMMMN 206? Im moving to Africa

06:52:27 mircea_popescu: so is reddit generally pleasing with the gavinesque attack on bitcoin or we're not seeing the matter for the shit between eyes ?

06:52:54 mircea_popescu: pleased*

06:55:23 BingoBoingo: !up yule

06:58:51 []bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.43877896 BTC. Current weight: 50,465.

06:58:54 []bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.43877896 BTC. Current weight: 50,464.

06:58:56 []bot: Bet placed: 8.8 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 70(Y):30(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.43877896 BTC. Current weight: 50,464.

06:59:57 dub: risky bets

07:00:23 cazalla: i took no for a few bit cents, c'mon no whammy!

07:01:09 punkman: won't those bets just get refunded due to buffer clause?

07:01:31 dub: I thought s/refunded/donated/

07:01:50 mircea_popescu: no, refunded.

07:01:55 dub: oh

07:02:02 mircea_popescu: course... it could go under in the 16 hours atop a week...

07:03:50 mircea_popescu: o look at that, mpif is 99/1 on no too.

07:07:10 artifexd: what bet are you talking about?

07:07:49 Elian11: yawwwns, Sun has risen over the Aegean again. i continue my trip

07:09:19 mircea_popescu: the 200 btc one ?

07:10:26 artifexd: Oh. I thought you were discussing a bet about mpif.

07:11:02 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1095/bitcoin-to-drop-under-200-before-feb/#b5 << looks like P5 made that to me

07:11:03 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 200$ before Feb :: 22.05 B (80%) on Yes, 5.38 B (20%) on No | closing in 1 week 16 hours | weight: 50`420 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/1yaoRFc )

07:11:30 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

07:11:39 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 205.13, vol: 57257.02968217 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 202.0, vol: 35922.36976 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 204.59, vol: 143572.43355688 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 199.79, vol: 61.48176239 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 199.458741, vol: 326926.92180000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 210.00017, vol: 184.6207104 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 222.849895272, vol: 414.35185372 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

07:12:33 BingoBoingo: !up Birdman

07:12:47 Birdman: Ty

07:12:50 BingoBoingo: Birdman: It depends on the wording of the particular bet

07:12:52 fluffypony: Birdman: you were a good movie, thanks

07:12:53 BingoBoingo: !up mats

07:13:28 xanthyos: hi

07:14:39 xanthyos: "successful" is "exitoso/a". << always leave them wanting more

07:14:52 mircea_popescu: lol

07:15:37 Birdman: BingoBoingo: Ah, i see, it goes by Bitstamp. Also, i see that you would only be able to place a "Yes" be within the next 16 hours or so.

07:16:26 BingoBoingo: Birdman: Are you sure you are reading correctly?

07:17:07 Birdman: BingoBoingo: "If the difference between a given "Yes" bet time and the bet's closing time is less than one week, such bets will be refunded minus fee."

07:17:39 BingoBoingo: Birdman: Bet can also close by Bitcoin going below 200 on ButtStamp

07:18:50 Birdman: Hm

07:19:00 mircea_popescu: The new government was received with considerable coolness. It was not only a foreign intruder, but a poor one. It was not even worth plucking?except by the smallest of small fry office-seekers and such. Everybody knew that Congress had appropriated only twenty thousand dollars a year in greenbacks for its support?about money enough to run a quartz mill a month. And everybody knew, also, that the first year's money

07:19:00 mircea_popescu: was still in Washington, and that the getting hold of it would be a tedious and difficult process. Carson City was too wary and too wise to open up a credit account with the imported bantling with anything like indecent haste.

07:19:01 mircea_popescu: There is something solemnly funny about the struggles of a new-born Territorial government to get a start in this world. Ours had a trying time of it. The Organic Act and the "instructions" from the State Department commanded that a legislature should be elected at such-and- such a time, and its sittings inaugurated at such-and-such a date. It was easy to get legislators, even at three dollars a day, although board was

07:19:07 mircea_popescu: four dollars and fifty cents, for distinction has its charm in Nevada as well as elsewhere, and there were plenty of patriotic souls out of employment; but to get a legislative hall for them to meet in was another matter altogether. Carson blandly declined to give a room rent-free, or let one to the government on credit.

07:19:11 mircea_popescu: the great old days when america worked as intended.

07:19:16 mircea_popescu: it DID have greenbacks. but they were backed by gold.

07:19:56 BingoBoingo: Birdman: Conditions of the bet actually happening tend to close the bet.

07:20:34 Birdman: BingoBoingo: I undstand

07:20:34 fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/x55Dm3V.png

07:20:36 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1xnwvVF )

07:20:56 mircea_popescu: lul evilpony

07:24:35 artifexd: ;;ticker

07:24:36 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 200.1, Best ask: 201.89, Bid-ask spread: 1.79000, Last trade: 200.0, 24 hour volume: 59974.08325502, 24 hour low: 200.0, 24 hour high: 250.0, 24 hour vwap: 225.001947876

07:24:56 artifexd: ;;ticker --market all

07:25:10 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 200.0, vol: 59974.08325502 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 192.301, vol: 37194.69668 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 195.19, vol: 145436.23163115 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 199.79, vol: 61.48176239 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 188.629794, vol: 327193.55260000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 205.0, vol: 186.42597824 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 106.137, vol: 447.75749073 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

07:25:29 artifexd: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitstamp/btcusd << Showing a freefall right now. 165 and still falling.

07:25:30 assbot: Bitstamp BTC/USD Charts - BitcoinWisdom ... ( http://bit.ly/1yarmr3 )

07:25:36 mircea_popescu: o.O

07:25:48 punkman: 106 on btccentral?

07:25:57 mircea_popescu: yup is 160ish

07:26:46 mircea_popescu: gavin apology forthcoming yet ?

07:27:16 mircea_popescu: i guess might as well inquire in the idiot's den.

07:27:20 cazalla: horry sheet, this is impossibru

07:27:58 mircea_popescu: errything's possible.

07:28:30 cazalla: ha my brother is texting me upset

07:28:36 cazalla: (again)

07:28:47 punkman: I'm only upset I don't more dollar

07:29:22 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

07:31:48 Vexual: mirtazapine? what wrong with cheese man?

07:32:18 BingoBoingo: lol

07:32:36 BingoBoingo: I offered most effect, not a normal solution

07:33:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00056003 = 10.5006 BTC [+]

07:34:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2501 @ 0.00065 = 1.6257 BTC [-] {2}

07:35:22 cazalla: ah well, that's the way she goes

07:36:25 BingoBoingo: !up HlySht

07:42:37 Vexual: 1000 yuan

07:43:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57800 @ 0.0005524 = 31.9287 BTC [-]

07:53:32 felipelalli: oh my god

07:56:12 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

07:56:13 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.09, Best ask: 187.05, Bid-ask spread: 0.96000, Last trade: 186.41, 24 hour volume: 73114.67316373, 24 hour low: 152.4, 24 hour high: 247.16, 24 hour vwap: 217.268927578

07:56:23 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

07:56:38 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 187.3, vol: 73115.17316373 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 187.684, vol: 43792.26506 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 187.54, vol: 163193.43712903 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 190.0, vol: 77.80584756 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 174.000498, vol: 321497.25230000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 180.00056, vol: 189.73923824 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 145.2138, vol: 430.58183193 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

07:56:58 HlySht: Wow. This is one for the books.

07:57:24 mircea_popescu: "gotta hardfork to drive adoption"

07:57:35 HlySht: lol

07:57:42 punkman: no meat for gavin

07:57:52 mircea_popescu: punkman foundation mostly holds btc.

07:58:06 mircea_popescu: his salary went from 'maybe all of 2015, possibly" to "maybe next month. doubtful."

07:58:27 mircea_popescu: at the edge of seat here, see what they come up with.

08:05:51 HlySht: see what who comes up with?

08:07:44 mircea_popescu: prolly some log reading a good idea.

08:10:27 danielpbarron: If bitcoin was alot cheaper, more people would participate and actually use it instead of gamble on it. --bitcointalk

08:10:42 danielpbarron: "lower price drives adoption! this is actually a good thing!"

08:10:50 fluffypony: THIS IS GOOD FOR BITCOIN - Reddit

08:15:45 mircea_popescu: lol

08:16:19 mircea_popescu: it is good for bitcoin, at that. shake a bunch of 7th day capitalists / internet retards off it.

08:19:08 fluffypony: I wonder when the suicide sticky is going to come back to Reddit

08:19:34 mircea_popescu: tomorrow morn ?

08:19:55 BingoBoingo: !up zprincipal

08:20:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17008 @ 0.00056003 = 9.525 BTC [+]

08:23:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00053724 = 53.724 BTC [-] {5}

08:28:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5314 @ 0.00052158 = 2.7717 BTC [-] {16}

08:28:19 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

08:28:34 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 182.65, vol: 75201.91575654 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 187.14, vol: 45254.95093 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 191.0, vol: 192713.17729051 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 190.0, vol: 78.32618523 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 179.28312, vol: 308599.75680000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 180.00056, vol: 189.73923824 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 177.03, vol: 423.78070798 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

08:28:44 mircea_popescu: check it out, the 170 bet survived. http://bitbet.us/bet/1103/bitcoin-to-drop-under-170-before-march/

08:28:45 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 170$ before March :: 1.04 B (80%) on Yes, 0.26 B (20%) on No | closing in 1 month 15 hours | weight: 98`351 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( http://bit.ly/14yuHlV )

08:30:39 davout: !t m x.eur

08:30:39 assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.0049251 / 0.00499595 / 0.00510443 (43 shares, 0.21 BTC), 7D: 0.00394588 / 0.00429282 / 0.00510443 (687 shares, 2.95 BTC), 30D: 0.00175233 / 0.00361007 / 0.00510443 (5755 shares, 20.78 BTC)

08:30:55 davout: to the moon woohoo

08:31:21 felipelalli: to the hell :(

08:32:20 mircea_popescu: lol

08:33:04 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 429 @ 0.00598263 = 2.5665 BTC [+]

08:33:38 punkman: ;;tslb

08:33:44 gribble: Time since last block: 7 minutes and 34 seconds

08:45:54 cazalla: <fluffypony> I wonder when the suicide sticky is going to come back to Reddit <<< http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2sdsjw/bitcoin_crash_alert_national_suicide_prevention/ that's a start

08:45:55 assbot: Bitcoin Crash Alert: National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1-800-273-8255 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/14yxj3g )

08:46:05 fluffypony: lol

08:46:27 fluffypony: "Thanks, needed this, Google was no help."

08:47:15 danielpbarron: Hey now if someone offs themselves then their coins are lost and everyone benefits. This is good for bitcoin. --reddit

08:47:22 fluffypony: Reddit only cares about 'Murkans

08:48:56 punkman: http://i.imgur.com/YJZm7Af.jpg

08:48:58 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/14yxI5K )

08:49:07 punkman: the waterfall!

08:49:49 mircea_popescu: poor dog

08:52:00 punkman: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2scbrh/a_dam_is_about_to_burst_there_must_be_a/cnoa2ra

08:52:01 assbot: A Dam is About to Burst.... There must be a reconciliation between the price and the total network hash rate. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/14yy1xj )

08:53:12 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's in Bosnia

08:53:13 fluffypony: it survived

08:53:26 mircea_popescu: cool

08:55:54 mircea_popescu: tbh i think i read all my reddit for the current year over the qntra articles.

09:00:32 BingoBoingo: !up HeySteve

09:00:48 HeySteve: hi!

09:03:29 BingoBoingo: Hello

09:04:32 mircea_popescu: this being enough excitement for one night, i bid you all happy price halving day.

09:06:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126446 @ 0.00049361 = 62.415 BTC [-] {7}

09:08:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00047551 = 9.2011 BTC [-] {3}

09:09:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3100 @ 0.0005 = 1.55 BTC [-] {3}

09:11:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3952 @ 0.00049999 = 1.976 BTC [-]

09:14:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2012 @ 0.00050005 = 1.0061 BTC [+] {3}

09:18:40 davout: fluffypony: "it survived" <<< nice to know, i skimmed the imgur comments to find out, but didn't see

09:19:54 fluffypony: http://www.abc.ba/novost/25878/pogledajte-kako-je-strbacki-buk-zarobio-psa-foto

09:19:55 assbot: Pogledajte kako je Štrbački buk zarobio psa (FOTO) Info portal ABC.ba - Dnevne novosti iz Bihaća, Krajine i BiH ... ( http://bit.ly/14yCeBf )

09:19:58 fluffypony: that's the article

09:33:23 fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9zuSTOE2vk

09:33:25 assbot: English Accent Knives - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/14yEsR5 )

09:34:45 davout: fluffypony: i like mike strutter's better

09:35:44 davout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0noRU0WI84

09:35:45 assbot: Mike Strutter - Strutter Bubble [HQ] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u3BZud )

09:49:59 punkman: fluffypony: are the knives any good?

09:50:11 fluffypony: punkman: I have no idea

09:51:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10000 @ 0.0005 = 5 BTC [+] {2}

09:52:59 fluffypony: they do look rery, rery sharp

09:53:12 punkman: the drop test got me curious

09:53:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10000 @ 0.00051107 = 5.1107 BTC [+] {5}

09:54:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2220 @ 0.00051111 = 1.1347 BTC [+] {3}

09:54:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.10735999 = 1.8251 BTC [-] {3}

10:02:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.1053 = 1.053 BTC [-]

10:03:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1900 @ 0.00055 = 1.045 BTC [+]

10:32:29 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdjKXlEEeR0

10:32:30 assbot: Matthew McConaughey and the Lincoln MKZ: Existential Crisis - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1APaWlT )

10:57:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00043589 = 13.8177 BTC [-]

11:24:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00043529 = 8.7058 BTC [-] {2}

11:43:36 BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW

11:43:48 BingoBoingo: Hello AaronvanW

11:43:55 AaronvanW: hi

11:44:10 BingoBoingo: Whar brings you around these parts

11:44:16 BingoBoingo: *What

11:44:26 AaronvanW: http://qntra.net/about/

11:44:26 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FV0pv2 )

11:46:51 BingoBoingo: Cool

11:47:09 cazalla: found for me, what's up AaronvanW

11:49:48 AaronvanW: I like this http://qntra.net/2014/10/write-for-qntra-earn-equity-in-qntra/

11:49:48 assbot: Write For Qntra, Earn Equity In Qntra | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FV1JOq )

11:49:49 AaronvanW: I think

11:50:29 AaronvanW: I'll have to research it a bit more - but it sounds cool

11:53:15 BingoBoingo: Cool

11:59:13 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

12:03:14 Vexual: ;;later tell ben_vuples Are you listening to hard trance yet?

12:03:15 gribble: The operation succeeded.

12:05:07 Vexual: never have more than 0.9 GB, or you go bavk to 0.10

12:15:21 punkman: 0.9 GB?

12:16:00 Vexual: one man can only have so many trance mp3a

12:22:26 Vexual: otherwise it get repetitive

12:25:00 Vexual: ;;ticker

12:25:18 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 190.76, Best ask: 190.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 190.77, 24 hour volume: 95778.55288959, 24 hour low: 152.4, 24 hour high: 239.09, 24 hour vwap: 0

12:25:33 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

12:25:36 BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW

12:25:45 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

12:25:49 BingoBoingo: !up aspho

12:26:23 aspho: Hi

12:26:25 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 190.8, vol: 95788.54762692 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 188.636, vol: 52515.05552 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 193.0, vol: 228984.85338648 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 195.13, vol: 0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 188.6766, vol: 286314.64060000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 184.10005, vol: 196.3086637 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 193.9905, vol: 454.46776471 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

12:29:28 BingoBoingo: Hi aspho

12:31:59 aspho: Some good lulz these days :D

12:33:46 BingoBoingo: This bleeding is pretty fun

12:33:52 BingoBoingo: !up Quanttek

12:35:33 Vexual: 13:2 happened again { kakobrekla

12:36:23 Vexual: at least it did in aussie dollars

12:42:39 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvVxlup1JA

12:45:57 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79qn8OfDWPQ

12:45:58 assbot: Vinicio Capossela : Lord Jim - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1wZpFGY )

12:51:50 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiTr78NQtl8

12:57:04 punkman: !up Vexual

12:59:19 Naphex: been a while since i've seen BUG Mafia linked lol

13:04:26 BingoBoingo: lol

13:08:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3360 @ 0.00050088 = 1.683 BTC [-] {9}

13:13:10 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naUDVTM0d5c

13:18:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11550 @ 0.00043548 = 5.0298 BTC [+]

13:19:10 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

13:19:48 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 188.21, vol: 97977.67031260 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 186.232, vol: 52709.99661 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 191.5, vol: 233464.76737682 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 199.79, vol: 0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 186.136164, vol: 280310.42940000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 184.10005, vol: 184.99996398 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 202.5128, vol: 461.23268408 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

13:19:54 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-QRw9Pl5WI

13:21:20 BingoBoingo: http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/01/same-performance-better-grades/384447/

13:21:21 assbot: Same Performance, Better Grades - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1u69c2D )

13:22:26 Vexual: high distinctions all around!

13:22:52 jurov: http://www.abc.ba/novost/25878/pogledajte-kako-je-strbacki-buk-zarobio-psa-foto << it says kako did it

13:22:54 assbot: Pogledajte kako je Štrbački buk zarobio psa (FOTO) Info portal ABC.ba - Dnevne novosti iz Bihaća, Krajine i BiH ... ( http://bit.ly/1u69oPj )

13:23:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2555 @ 0.00049998 = 1.2774 BTC [-] {8}

13:24:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2568 @ 0.00049999 = 1.284 BTC [+] {10}

13:25:21 Vexual: doesn't look phased at all, fucker can prolly swim to the top

13:25:41 BingoBoingo: jurov: Kako giveth, kako taketh away

13:27:12 Vexual: http://www.abc.ba/upload/images/gallery/foto/012015/strbackibukpaszarobljen/dccdd88f10aa714ac6f089db8d3f21dd.jpg {wait a minutes, its GIN!

13:31:37 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

13:31:37 cazalla: !up Vexual

13:31:42 cazalla: scooped ya

13:34:25 BingoBoingo: lol

13:35:40 Vexual: so the press got some mana with all these frogs getting perforated

13:36:36 cazalla: Vexual, they did better than Sydney eh

13:39:45 cazalla: see that new one out today? isis kiddy put a couple in the head of two russian spies

13:40:21 cazalla: pew pew

13:40:34 Vexual: they're foing their own caricatures now?

13:41:21 Vexual: i didnt see it

13:42:28 Vexual: was one black ond one white?

13:42:44 cazalla: nah, it's asian looking boy or girl, can't tell

13:44:22 cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycGqvmoNFs0

13:44:24 assbot: 'Russian Spies' Executed by Child Soldier ISIS [18 +] ISIS Child Soldier Purportedly Executing 2 MEN - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u3Z6F2 )

13:44:39 Vexual: http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Spy.jpg

13:44:45 cazalla: i can tell this kid players a lot of counterstrike and grand theft auto, doesn't even hesitate, that xbox 360 controller reflex takes over

13:45:02 Naphex: looks like it

13:45:04 jurov: <cazalla> i will be until a scream comes over the baby monitor that someone is awake and demands lunch << do you know babies prosper in skin-contact with parent, not away on baby monitor?

13:45:09 Naphex: a bit of call of duty on it ass well

13:45:26 cazalla: Naphex, cod players would pussy out

13:45:30 Naphex: :))

13:45:45 Vexual: kickass

13:46:39 cazalla: jurov, are you suggesting i hold him while he sleeps or what?

13:47:35 jurov: idk, have it on your knees or such

13:47:56 cazalla: while asleep? you're nuts!

13:48:01 jurov: i did not mean to impose, just ask if you though about it

13:48:09 jurov: *thought

13:48:31 cazalla: but yeah i know about skin on skin, ensured bubs had that time with mummy after he was born and plenty with me this time last year given that it was summer

13:48:57 Vexual: fuck that cazalla, have the govt pay for childcare so you can play candycrush

13:49:35 cazalla: jurov, he sleeps in his cot, i'm not sitting here with him on my lap while he has a 2 or 3 hour lunch time nap

13:49:49 jurov: ok :)

13:50:03 cazalla: Vexual, i wouldn't send my dog to childcare, not that i have a dog anymore but you get my point

13:51:34 Vexual: im joking, im sure you're doing well

13:52:14 cazalla: it's the crying that sends my blood pressure up, pass him off to missus when that happens

13:52:54 cazalla: but then i cook all the meals, clean the house etc etc so you know, fair is fair

13:58:16 cazalla: still trying to teach him sign language but i find, espeically this past month in lead up to his 1 year birthday, he mimics non hand gestures far more, like i jump around the loungeroom doing monkey noises and he copies the monkey noises, blow rasperries, open and close mouth, copys it straight away now, hand signals not so much yet

13:58:33 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAuVNK3zQdU [ most played

13:59:14 Vexual: can it count?

14:01:09 Naphex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnvV1jSGKkA my most played

14:01:11 assbot: 2 - Max Normal - Stay At Home - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u40FTr )

14:01:11 cazalla: nope lol

14:01:16 cazalla: listening to jenny morris atm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Vv880neBY

14:01:17 assbot: Jenny Morris - "Break In The Weather" 1991 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u40DuN )

14:01:19 cazalla: damn she has got old

14:02:50 cazalla: !up Vexual

14:04:56 cazalla: Vexual, remember this shit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdJYrkra0nk

14:04:58 assbot: Frente! - Accidently Kelly Street - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u4148s )

14:07:10 cazalla: hory sheet IRL carmageddon http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7be_1421205519

14:07:11 assbot: LiveLeak.com - The best driver in Asia ... ( http://bit.ly/1u41lrZ )

14:08:09 Vexual: omg its the dashcam killer

14:08:59 cazalla: gotta be higher than harlem to drive that bad

14:09:18 Vexual: bad day on bitstamp mayhaps

14:09:40 cazalla: Vexual, ya remember that other neighbours chick who had a hit song.. melissa something

14:09:55 Vexual: no, but i want it, bring her to me

14:10:11 cazalla: ah i found her! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pl5txSyDYI

14:10:12 assbot: Melissa Tkautz - Read My Lips - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u41EmJ )

14:10:32 Vexual: jenny morris goes well with dashcam killer tho

14:11:14 cazalla: thestringpuller, if ya like blonde aussie girls, Melissa Tkautz was the epitome of that back in the day

14:14:29 Naphex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrAxcUcO3u8 prolly one of the best hiphop albums, in 2000's :D

14:14:30 assbot: Max Normal - Songs From The Mall [Full Album] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u42ekn )

14:14:46 cazalla: another of her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCiKbU0JB4 ignore the dudes, she was like 17 or 18 at the time of these vids

14:14:47 assbot: Melissa - Sexy (Is the Word) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u42fVr )

14:17:28 Vexual: back to back to back

14:19:31 cazalla: Vexual, prob get axed from aussie tv for doing this shit these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4aNzXKxwLM

14:19:32 assbot: Con The Fruiterer - A Cuppla Days (1989) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1u42TlI )

14:20:20 Vexual: nah terorists just made free speech a total thing

14:21:03 cazalla: well there ya go, dw about the bitcoin price, just needs.. a cuppla days

14:21:40 Vexual: yah can buy an mpex account for a few kilos of tomatoes, limited time only

14:22:53 cazalla: got me own going, calling em shaqtus tomatoes on account they are like 7-8ft tall now (cherry tomatoes that is)

14:23:02 cazalla: the grosse lisse are like 5ft atm

14:23:10 Vexual: fcuk

14:23:22 cazalla: yeah the fcking things are monsters

14:23:41 Vexual: are the cherries fruiting yet?

14:24:18 cazalla: yeah both are

14:25:47 Vexual: you do a fair bit with 800 square metres you good old aussie you

14:25:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20495 @ 0.00043048 = 8.8227 BTC [-]

14:26:08 cazalla: don't even think we have that

14:28:50 cazalla: Vexual, fucking aussie backyard is dead didn't ya know

14:29:26 cazalla: the minute some old fuck dies around here, their house is torn down and 6 more managed to fit where it once stood

14:29:47 Vexual: well then, don't die

14:29:58 cazalla: so much concrete you'd think it was all greeks around here

14:30:51 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajeL87l3prM

14:31:12 cazalla: you like ur billy unks eh Vexual

14:31:28 Vexual: lol

14:31:49 Vexual: not really, just a statement on your town

14:31:54 Vexual: :)

14:32:08 cazalla: man i need to go on some rocky 6 montage

14:32:32 cazalla: no more booze, no more sweets

14:32:38 cazalla: back to gym and get back to it

14:32:53 cazalla: drums of war.. can hear em

14:33:03 cazalla: !up Vexual

14:33:48 cazalla: not on empty yet, heart still beats

14:35:41 Vexual: you're a bunks fan too

14:36:23 cazalla: not reary

14:38:06 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_DuVtgydk

14:38:12 cazalla: i much prefer the magic dirt's, the spiderbaits, the rock bands with the female lead singers

14:38:19 cazalla: gotta be australian th ough

14:41:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3368 @ 0.00052522 = 1.7689 BTC [+] {3}

14:44:10 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EItYM2TOAQA

14:45:45 kakobrekla: http://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/othercheek.gif

14:45:46 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1u466Sz )

14:45:46 cazalla: saw them at bdo long time ago

14:46:36 cazalla: kakobrekla, obvious rip off from cat and buttered toast

14:52:58 kakobrekla: aha, scam.

15:05:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3650 @ 0.00051 = 1.8615 BTC [-] {4}

15:10:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94450 @ 0.0004385 = 41.4163 BTC [+] {3}

15:11:58 BingoBoingo: Nascar drama http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/kurt-buschs-ex-was-terrible-at-keeping-her-assassin-gig-1679384840

15:11:59 assbot: Testimony: Kurt Busch Ex Terrible At Keeping Assassin Gig On The Downlow ... ( http://bit.ly/1u49HQj )

15:12:01 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

15:13:23 BingoBoingo: http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/12161197/kurt-busch-says-ex-girlfriend-patricia-driscoll-was-trained-assassin

15:13:25 assbot: Kurt Busch says ex-girlfriend, Patricia Driscoll, was trained assassin - ESPN ... ( http://bit.ly/1u49ZH9 )

15:16:54 cazalla: reads like the long kiss goodnight

15:19:47 BingoBoingo: Seriouly

15:41:35 thestringpuller: we haven't caused enough panic yet

15:42:04 Naphex: sky is falling, centralizied mining, going to 0, everything hacked

15:42:09 Naphex: bitcoin 2.0

15:42:23 Naphex: there.

15:42:37 cazalla: it's dead

15:42:51 thestringpuller: i love panic. the visual imagery of stock brokers running around a trade floor freaking out.

15:43:03 cazalla: do as i recommended redditors do and http://www2.b3ta.com/mind-control/

15:43:04 assbot: Mind Control Experiment by Rob Manuel [B3TA : WE LOVE THE WEB] ... ( http://bit.ly/1DFMDKB )

15:43:55 Naphex: cazalla, that only makes me want to play some counterstrike

15:43:58 Naphex: something is wrong

15:45:02 cazalla: !up Vexual

15:45:03 cazalla: he's back!

15:45:07 xanthyos: hi

15:45:18 cazalla: gimme a funky ass bassline Vexual

15:45:23 Vexual: heyo

15:48:21 kakobrekla: for the record, bits of proof, bop, .. total shit service, nobody replies to any mail, yet frontpage claims 'enterprise solutions' . go suck a cock.

15:49:19 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jNyr6BJZuI

15:50:15 cazalla: kakobrekla, ha no wonder http://cointerra.com/acquires-bits-of-proof/ http://qntra.net/2015/01/cointerra-goes-from-bad-to-worse/

15:50:17 assbot: CoinTerra acquires Bits of Proof Enterprise Software ... ( http://bit.ly/1u6xJEX )

15:50:18 assbot: CoinTerra Goes From Bad To Worse | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1u6xJVf )

15:50:35 cazalla: you're a cointerra customer!

15:50:57 kakobrekla: well tbh im not, just making a note since they arent in 'wot'.

15:52:03 jurov: kakobrekla heh guess who did the (ofted defunct) mytrezor.com stuff?

15:52:06 jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jms4y/why_does_mytrezor_keep_going_down/

15:52:08 assbot: Why does myTrezor keep going down? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1u6y627 )

15:52:36 thestringpuller: poor slush

15:52:54 cazalla: this has been another andreas recommendation.. trezor, the best!

15:53:00 kakobrekla: yeah i already bitched them about it and they are now doing their own open solution

15:55:09 Naphex: kako, you use a trezor? lol :)

15:55:35 kakobrekla: i bought half a dozen for new year presents

15:55:55 Vexual: thats a year of income :)

15:56:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41199 @ 0.00044698 = 18.4151 BTC [+] {2}

15:58:50 jurov: i bought one, not using it

15:59:02 Naphex: why'd you buy it?

15:59:17 Vexual: how are you expected yo use it?

15:59:19 jurov: obv i waned to use it

15:59:37 jurov: but i made rpi-based wallet in meantime and

15:59:56 jurov: myterazor.com sucks and i did not install electrum 2 yet

16:00:26 kakobrekla: its ok for nubs

16:00:36 cazalla: muhtreytreyzor.com nignog ver

16:05:34 kakobrekla: i think ascii had objection over trezor saying "not sure if its better than a web wallet"

16:05:54 kakobrekla: well one of the idiots that i gave trezor to still kept the coins on bitstamp until after the hack

16:05:56 kakobrekla: so yeah.

16:07:11 kakobrekla: at least i give em a fighting chance.

16:09:52 cazalla: why bother, i have this discussion with my brother many times, toss him rope to pull to safety yet determined to tie a noose and wrap around neck and yet cry save me yet again

16:12:40 kakobrekla: i dont know really

16:12:53 kakobrekla: my brothers are both 20 years+ younger than me

16:13:11 kakobrekla: cant really discuss anything with them!

16:14:02 cazalla: mine only 3 years younger, stuck with uni debt, parents demanded one of us be sacrificed upon altar of education, ha ha charade you are

16:14:04 mircea_popescu: wow srsly ?

16:14:31 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i think if i had brothers that young i might have even liked 'em.

16:15:01 mircea_popescu: cazalla go to college earn more not so alive and well down under ?

16:15:14 cazalla: he did medicinal chemistry.. ended up making subway sammages haha

16:15:26 Vexual: verily, just not go and earn more is bigger

16:15:45 cazalla: !up Vexual

16:16:52 cazalla: prior to gfc, i would give him advice (to be fair, throw a dart and you would strike gold) on asx

16:17:38 cazalla: but then big fall out, he ignores me for 3 years despite my thinking i would die 2 years ago, continued to ignore me and as a result only finds bitcoin 6 months ago when we start talking again, now only has a few bitcoin to rub together, much satisifaction

16:17:52 mircea_popescu: what's gfc/asx ?

16:18:07 cazalla: global financial crisis and australia stock exchange

16:18:15 Vexual: about 3

16:18:18 mircea_popescu: o o

16:19:56 cazalla: fucking cunt, i extend olive branch and willing to accept blame for all things despite otherwise in case i did keel over and die, fucking cunt slapped my hand away, now pays for that

16:20:16 Vexual: hey, be nice to your mother

16:20:24 cazalla: to quote the matrix "Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony."

16:20:38 mircea_popescu: AaronvanW you're on the right path , at any rate. prolly start your research in the logs

16:21:35 mircea_popescu: cazalla eh, never "accept blame for all things desipite otherwise". it's the worst way to die.

16:22:23 mircea_popescu: jurov lol no fucking way, the stranded dog's name actually is kako ?!

16:22:24 cazalla: well at time, just buried a grand parent and figure i was next so willing to for parents sake at that time

16:23:18 cazalla: but what do you expect? you write a book on killing a rabbit, missus and i do a one liner.. "it's cute but gee, tastes good" eos

16:23:24 mircea_popescu: "Kako se ova drama = this drama. i r disappoint ;/

16:23:38 jurov: i was just making fun

16:24:16 mircea_popescu: cazalla date moar american womenz born after 1980, have moar problems.

16:24:45 cazalla: mine's a 70s

16:25:17 mircea_popescu: it's really shocking how stupid/clueless modern teenagers are as compared to what i used to fuck prior to the berlin wall falling. pretty much every basic point has to be re-established.

16:25:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.11 = 2.53 BTC [+]

16:25:53 jurov: interesting. you were 8 when the wall fell, no?

16:26:11 mircea_popescu: jurov nah

16:27:18 xanthyos: hi

16:27:31 xanthyos: just bought .23ish so i could bring my balance of btc to nearly exactly pi

16:27:56 cazalla: xanthyos, hows ya cock

16:28:11 xanthyos: still has a thick undissolved stitch

16:28:13 xanthyos: inside

16:28:18 xanthyos: but the outside looks normal

16:28:38 xanthyos: pain can be ignored most of the time now

16:29:02 mircea_popescu: "stop fucking with it!"

16:29:02 cazalla: mircea_popescu, so i look at this collar me site but how do you gage whether these chicks are just a puppet for some guy who intends to stick you up later on

16:29:28 mircea_popescu: cazalla lol isn't that always the thing ?

16:29:51 xanthyos: honey traps

16:30:17 mircea_popescu: anyway, site's mostly a lulzpile, not really usable for its intended purpose.

16:31:19 mircea_popescu: assbot: 'Russian Spies' Executed by Child Soldier ISIS << all this meta-derpage. "o noes, some guys got shot, we must make slow motion of it! BIG DEAL OVER HERE!"

16:31:44 TomServo: that kid is going to be the best ninja ever

16:31:47 cazalla: can't help but think these dom women are actually subs and i'm gonna get ganked wow rogue stylez, pick pocketed and backstabbed

16:31:48 mircea_popescu: more people get shot on a daily basis than apply to fucking stanford. who does slow motion videos of his application process ?

16:32:18 mircea_popescu: TomServo turns out kid soldiers do best if they die pre pubescence. latr life doesn't really work out for them all that often.

16:32:43 mircea_popescu: sort-of like child actors, child millionaires, child prostitutes and all other manner of child-adultjob.

16:33:27 cazalla: like brock pierece eh, poor cunt ended up at the bitcoin foundation

16:33:50 TomServo: makes sense

16:33:51 mircea_popescu: cazalla while the actual domme is rare (most have a guy they sub to, publicly admitted or not) i dun imagine this is a very productive scamping model.

16:33:57 mircea_popescu: police eventually gotta figure i tout.

16:35:04 cazalla: yeah, always fancied myself a ripley but never found one, always turned out to be a burke who need instructions

16:35:07 mircea_popescu: (and amusingly enough, girls do a lot better at it than boys, for some reason).

16:35:59 mircea_popescu: cazalla there's actually a lot of demand for real/natural domme. which is part of what makes me chuckle at all the "oh, women are oppressed majority" talk.

16:36:22 mircea_popescu: you know it's all whalegab. i've yet to see a driven woman have trouble.

16:36:50 cazalla: my limited experience to date is that every woman needs instruction which defeats purpose of her being dominate to begin with

16:37:27 cazalla: in vino veritas eh or at least whiskey

16:38:08 mircea_popescu: the genuine article doth exist

16:38:22 mircea_popescu: usually penned for use by aging wall street execs and other limpydicks.

16:39:11 cazalla: well, that is not an issue for me, least not at this age

16:39:42 mircea_popescu: since viagra... nobody knows you're impotent anymoar lol

16:41:00 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: cazalla date moar american womenz born after 1980 << God save you if you date one after 1990

16:41:03 thestringpuller: lol

16:41:34 cazalla: my 77', while useless in bed, is not as useless as a post 90's one

16:42:10 mircea_popescu: jurov: idk, have it on your knees or such << there can be too much of a good thing. overhandled children develop something that looks quite like autism.

16:42:28 mircea_popescu: cazalla they're fine, just need to get pegged.

16:42:45 cazalla: lol not my thing

16:42:45 mircea_popescu: like a grand old wine cask. once the thin surface of stupid's breached, it flows.

16:43:06 mircea_popescu: i meant it metaphorically... but i guess cane & freshly cut ginger's not the worst way to do it.

16:43:32 cazalla: i can't imagine anything worse than tears, whinging and crying over that

16:44:20 mircea_popescu: it passes.

16:44:23 mircea_popescu: course, not the thing to get into halfheartedly. definitely not.

16:44:38 jurov: i suppose it's different between parents rocking the children all the way to coma and just keeping them near

16:45:22 cazalla: jurov, he's always near, we're both always home, just the idea of holding him to sleep is far and beyond what he needs

16:46:02 mircea_popescu: jurov yeah, back in romania i had a pedo friend (kiddie doctor = pediatru in romanian, so obviously that's the joke) who mostly did mental health

16:46:08 cazalla: the sooner he can self instruct, play in the sandpit and fall out of the trees, the better

16:46:18 mircea_popescu: half the time he'd have to make the parents interact with the kid at least minimally,

16:46:28 mircea_popescu: he other half, stop therm from interacting over maximally.

16:46:33 mircea_popescu: that was pretty much his entire practice.

16:46:53 mircea_popescu: "you've not held him this month ?! of course it cries. please do."

16:47:10 mircea_popescu: "child's not been out of your arms since tues last ? please, set it down and leave the room."

16:47:21 mircea_popescu: somehow this becomes very polarized.

16:50:02 thestringpuller: lol helicopter parents

16:50:06 mircea_popescu: not clear why you'd need a guy spend 7 years in medical school to do basically old woman advice work, but hey, what sacrifice ain't worth it to get to live "in town".

16:51:13 cazalla: bezzle of course!

16:51:33 cazalla: place we took son to for his 1 year appt today with child care nurse

16:51:44 cazalla: they built these people a brand new centre, apparently old one was not good enough

16:51:53 cazalla: nurse so proud that she now has room with a view

16:52:14 cazalla: i bite my tongue and not say bitch, i can drive down the beach for a view at any hour of the day i please

16:52:32 mircea_popescu: lol

16:52:40 mircea_popescu: maybe she's not into camping ?

16:53:07 cazalla: don't need to camp at beach to enjoy it

16:53:08 mats: ;;ticker

16:53:09 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.1, Best ask: 188.21, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 188.1, 24 hour volume: 106556.89602561, 24 hour low: 152.4, 24 hour high: 239.09, 24 hour vwap: 201.419106007

16:53:22 mats: ;;t m

16:53:27 gribble: Error: This url is not on the whitelist.

16:53:46 mircea_popescu: cazalla but that's you speaking, and you're a camper. the other perspective's, "no roof = we're camping".

16:54:09 cazalla: and they of course is the gov which pays for the building, the land, the nurse's wage

16:54:21 mircea_popescu: it's nationalised in au ?!

16:54:26 cazalla: of course

16:54:30 mircea_popescu: nuts.

16:54:52 cazalla: private health care only gets you so far, you still have to (well not really, free

16:54:56 cazalla: * is free

16:55:10 cazalla: intertwine with the public health service for these things, afaik

16:55:19 cazalla: rather spend the cash on bitcoin tbh, let the tax payer cover this shit

16:55:59 cazalla: bad enough i am going to get raped at the dentist week after next

16:56:05 mircea_popescu: curious which country first has a populist candidate without much prospect that promises electorally he'll put a law in buy every citizen x bitcents off the public budget.

16:56:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25165 @ 0.00046724 = 11.7581 BTC [+]

16:56:47 cazalla: guess we'll find out soon enough

16:56:54 mircea_popescu: yeh

16:58:07 jurov: he'll make people to buy it themselves under "pension insurance" disguise

16:58:14 mircea_popescu: i dun recall if i recounted this, but i had the shock of all time here in argentina.

16:58:37 mircea_popescu: so i go to dentist, where one of the girls goes (she's had a bunch of root canals and other work done out of 100 bux)

16:58:55 mircea_popescu: girl examines me, and says... well... you're ok. some work in there but it's all fine, see you later.

16:59:07 mircea_popescu: this never happened to me before, go to a dentist he dun find something wrong ?!

16:59:14 cazalla: last root canal + crown cost me something like 2500 aud from memory

16:59:19 mircea_popescu: "no work for me here" ? i never heard that before.

16:59:56 cazalla: but all in one day, spiffy 3d printing type machine for the crown too, was pretty sweet how it cut away the block and made the crown fit perfect

17:00:07 mircea_popescu: ah that's nice.

17:00:48 mircea_popescu: problem with not so greatly fittign crowns being they can't cut the crown so usually have to cut the opposing teeth. not so great.

17:02:05 cazalla: well my old man tried to convince me to go to his dentist instead of the one i go to, root canal plus crown would've been 3 visits, cheaper overall but still who knows

17:02:42 cazalla: talking him up like he was whatley or something

17:03:07 mircea_popescu: whatley in sommerset ?!

17:03:20 cazalla: sienfeld

17:03:36 cazalla: wow, you really don't know your seinfeld afterall

17:03:48 mircea_popescu: oh lmao

17:04:01 mircea_popescu: maybe i'm just an anti-dentite.

17:04:38 TomServo: George also takes a pencil to the party because he thinks there will be a lot of dentists there and he wants to ask if they can compare the teeth marks on a pencil he found in the Jon Voight car to see if he really was the previous owner.

17:04:43 TomServo: lol George

17:04:51 cazalla: can i pick your brain for a moment on this sub/domme stuff on account that i am quite drunk?

17:05:13 mircea_popescu: sure ?

17:05:27 cazalla: it's not gay or anything is it lol

17:05:33 cazalla: i mean, i don't think so

17:05:33 mircea_popescu: TomServo that's the one where kramer got bit while molesting the real jon voight

17:05:48 mircea_popescu: cazalla generally gay is same gender.

17:06:12 mircea_popescu: but yes historically male gay pretty much meant leather which pretty much meant d/s stuff.

17:06:15 cazalla: TomServo, just driving around in john voight's car!

17:06:23 mircea_popescu: arguably this is no longer the case.

17:06:38 cazalla: so how do you actually find a domme woman who is legitimate and not just after money

17:06:44 mircea_popescu: ...

17:06:48 cazalla: because that is what i am suspect of all of them

17:06:50 thestringpuller: seems like there is sub/domme in every sexual relationship.

17:06:59 mircea_popescu: you find the holy grail first. inside it, you tear aside the shrowd of turin

17:07:01 mircea_popescu: and there she is.

17:07:19 cazalla: now it might soun bizarre coming from me but my first sexual experience was with a woman who in hindsight, was a natural

17:07:28 ben_vulpes: how are we all in #bitcoin-pricetalk today?

17:07:28 cazalla: so that imprinting..

17:07:29 mircea_popescu: so find her an' pimp her.

17:07:40 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes read log, be amazed.

17:07:43 cazalla: i've looked but she seems to have disappear after all these years

17:07:52 mircea_popescu: cazalla someone found her lol.

17:08:01 ben_vulpes: lol cazalla can spot a natural domme on his first go?

17:08:11 mircea_popescu: only retrospectively.

17:08:28 cazalla: ben_vulpes, she slapped me about in front of friends.. keep in mind, only 13 at the time, she had no shame at all and clearly was sexually exciting for her

17:08:29 ben_vulpes: mm.

17:08:40 cazalla: and she did this to others too mind you

17:08:59 thestringpuller: good description cazalla love the imagery

17:09:00 mircea_popescu: the slut!

17:09:17 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes wishes lady v would slap him

17:09:25 thestringpuller: :D

17:11:09 cazalla: thestringpuller, well you know, what ya gonna do, actually do atheletics and swim at the atheletics and swimming carnival? i think not

17:11:23 mircea_popescu: lol

17:11:40 mircea_popescu: adolescents principally fuck at any sporty thing. of course. an' why not.

17:12:37 ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: oh i di?

17:12:51 mircea_popescu: they just take turns slapping the dog.

17:13:39 cazalla: thestringpuller is a softie i hear

17:13:47 cazalla: true love and all that :P

17:14:50 thestringpuller: YESSIR

17:15:24 ben_vulpes: dog and babe both respond well to arched eyebrows, very little by way of slappings necessary :D

17:15:43 mircea_popescu: didn't you have a peet ball ?

17:15:57 ben_vulpes: a hm now?

17:16:15 thestringpuller: cazalla: I also want to make sure future wife doesn't sell out all my secrets for quick buck.

17:16:41 cazalla: thestringpuller, you can avoid that by not telling her shit

17:16:48 thestringpuller: Wives who keep husbands secrets to the grave are honorable creatures in my book.

17:16:50 ben_vulpes: http://cdn02.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/peet-met/amanda-peet-fishnet-statement-at-met-ball-2014-05.jpg

17:16:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/14WGZpf )

17:17:02 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes pitbull yo.

17:17:16 ben_vulpes: oh yes

17:17:35 ben_vulpes: doesn't imply lots of slapping tho

17:17:42 mircea_popescu: cazalla yeah dude, totally, she does eight lines with you and your gangsta friends in a stolen truck mid bankrobbery

17:17:48 mircea_popescu: but as long as you ain't TELLING her nuttin...

17:18:03 cazalla: mine bakes cakes, does lamp working and cricut

17:18:08 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu gets it!

17:18:09 cazalla: wouldn't even know what a line is lol

17:18:24 ben_vulpes: real ride-or-die bitches is hard to come by.

17:18:36 mircea_popescu: i have one of those. i also have one that shoots people in the face. variety is always best!

17:18:43 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: but thats the dream tho

17:19:01 ben_vulpes: lotto play, thestringpuller.

17:19:26 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes good women are made not found!

17:19:27 cazalla: i knew a guy who thought he had one of those types of women.. they actually did a rob a bank and you know who gave them all up?

17:19:48 mircea_popescu: cazalla his bff ?

17:19:58 thestringpuller: ^^^

17:20:19 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ya innit the truth

17:20:19 cazalla: the woman!

17:21:20 mircea_popescu: cazalla so is he in jail now ?

17:21:27 cazalla: nah, this is 20 years ago

17:21:36 mircea_popescu: did he turn gay ?

17:21:37 thestringpuller: http://imgur.com/OOOVsO3 << pretty good one

17:21:56 cazalla: i have nfi, i knew him through a now dead cousin

17:22:10 mircea_popescu: would be pretty cool that, "so how did you turn gay ?" "i had a woman, thought she was real, we hit a bank, she sold us out. no more for me."

17:22:12 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: this "no coins available at any price thing" is looking more and more realistic

17:22:20 cazalla: knew as in barely knew but go around telling people i knew at that age bcuz cool

17:22:21 thestringpuller: cazalla: you roll around with ghetto bastards with biscuits?

17:22:34 mircea_popescu: lol

17:22:36 thestringpuller: do you also rips is hard core like porno flick bitches?

17:23:04 cazalla: thestringpuller, i'm from the sticks and i told you before i was australia's biggest dealer of celeron 300A's

17:23:24 *: mircea_popescu wonders what counts of sticks in australia.

17:24:10 cazalla: back woods type shit

17:24:14 mircea_popescu: cazalla: the minute some old fuck dies around here, their house is torn down and 6 more managed to fit where it once stood << haha. same across teh bezzleworld. and they cost 10x each, and no inflation since 1929.

17:24:30 mircea_popescu: cazalla the joke was "australia is already the sticks itself,so..."

17:24:59 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual <Vexual> [] ;;later tell ben_vuples Are you listening to hard trance yet? << you gotta spell it right, bae

17:24:59 cazalla: well i'm blotto'd so you know, not too quick on the wit at 430am after drinking

17:24:59 gribble: Error: "" is not a valid command.

17:25:08 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual <Vexual> later tell ben_vuples Are you listening to hard trance yet? << you gotta spell it right, bae

17:25:09 gribble: The operation succeeded.

17:26:02 thestringpuller: the cure for a hang over is more drinking

17:28:04 mircea_popescu: so i don't get that nascar drama. ex-trophy blondie applies for no contact order against her ex. ex swears she's an assassin out to get him.

17:28:14 mircea_popescu: well... fine... so order granted then, why'd you want to be in contact ?!

17:29:32 thestringpuller: because she's good in the sack

17:29:38 mike_c: ;;bc,stats

17:29:42 gribble: Current Blocks: 338942 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1761 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 17 hours, 45 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 39161925824.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -10.93826

17:30:52 ben_vulpes: !up Alrenous

17:31:19 danielpbarron: !up Alrenous

17:31:20 cazalla: the crazy ones eh thestringpuller :P

17:31:31 Alrenous: Oh, hi. What's up.

17:31:51 Alrenous: I"m supposed to have to ask for that. Thanks.

17:32:04 ben_vulpes: ...

17:32:09 ben_vulpes: why did my gribble auth drop?

17:32:13 *: ben_vulpes grumps

17:32:18 ben_vulpes: asshat wot when

17:36:30 mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> doesn't imply lots of slapping tho << from what i hear the way to educate them is to place them in the door and slam the door on em. that way they chew on the door. rather than on your intestines, while you sleep.

17:36:57 ben_vulpes: lol you're in a mood today

17:37:10 mircea_popescu: lol

17:37:28 ben_vulpes: normally i just lock a lost burning man patriot in his kennel for breakfast

17:37:37 mircea_popescu: ahahaha

17:37:58 ben_vulpes: cheaper than kibble, and good for the local air flavor

17:37:59 mircea_popescu: i thought mostly women get lost at that thing.

17:38:20 TheNewDeal: Burning man patriot?

17:38:21 ben_vulpes: yeah but a dude who has his whole identity tied up in it - what is he after the party?

17:38:32 ben_vulpes: dogfood, i guess.

17:38:34 mircea_popescu: haha

17:38:46 ben_vulpes: and yes, this is a thing

17:39:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3201 @ 0.00045284 = 1.4495 BTC [-]

17:39:03 mircea_popescu: no, i know. pretty good shit.

17:39:09 mircea_popescu: all you gotta do is humor me!11

17:39:22 ben_vulpes: you can spot them by the hand-patched vests and "sports jackets" in combination with the furry tails carabeenered onto their belt loops

17:39:28 *: ben_vulpes saw a specimen at tango last night

17:39:39 mircea_popescu: you got tango in portland ?

17:39:44 mircea_popescu: does it come in a can ?

17:39:50 ben_vulpes: should i put it in scare quotes?

17:39:54 jurov: http://imgur.com/tWiC89v

17:39:55 assbot: Gorgeous Burning Man Patriot - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/14WNwjI )

17:40:07 mircea_popescu: tingo

17:40:27 mircea_popescu: jurov what's slovak for eyes of different color ?

17:40:32 TheNewDeal: Oooh not bad.

17:40:33 mircea_popescu: ceacira in romanian.

17:40:42 jurov: don't think we have a word for it

17:41:43 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i can't speak as to the quality of instruction or the milongas, but there's some sort of hustle involving procuring dollars in portland during the rainy season down south and then going down south to dance for the other six months

17:41:52 jurov: heterochromia

17:42:06 mircea_popescu: jurov well latin sure.

17:42:17 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i can see it.

17:42:20 jurov: i have found only that latin name

17:42:41 mircea_popescu: aite.

17:43:46 mircea_popescu: this comes from turkis, ?akir. iirc bulgarian has it too.

17:43:49 ben_vulpes: (but hey, i'm enjoying the new instruction on flopping around with babes)

17:44:56 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes im sure they're fine. it's not like it's some sort of magical art. eight steps.

17:45:57 ben_vulpes: yeah.

17:46:17 ben_vulpes: p intuitive too like other floppings

17:46:31 mircea_popescu: "Meantime the camp was filling up with people, and there was a constantly growing excitement about our Humboldt mines. We fell victims to the epidemic and strained every nerve to acquire more "feet." We prospected and took up new claims, put "notices" on them and gave them grandiloquent names. We traded some of our "feet" for "feet" in other people's claims. In a little while we owned largely in the "Gray Eagle," the "

17:46:31 mircea_popescu: Columbiana," the "Branch Mint," the "Maria Jane," the "Universe," the "Root-Hog-or- Die," the "Samson and Delilah," the "Treasure Trove," the "Golconda," the "Sultana," the "Boomerang," the "Great Republic," the "Grand Mogul," and fifty other "mines" that had never been molested by a shovel or scratched with a pick. We had not less than thirty thousand "feet" apiece in the "richest mines on earth" as the frenzied cant

17:46:32 mircea_popescu: phrased it?and were in debt to the butcher. We were stark mad with excitement?drunk with happiness?smothered under mountains of prospective wealth?arrogantly compassionate toward the plodding millions who knew not our marvellous canyon?but our credit was not good at the grocer's."

17:46:39 mircea_popescu: check it out, twain knows of bitcoin!

17:47:40 mircea_popescu: "It was the strangest phase of life one can imagine. It was a beggars' revel. There was nothing doing in the district?no mining?no milling?no productive effort?no income?and not enough money in the entire camp to buy a corner lot in an eastern village, hardly; and yet a stranger would have supposed he was walking among bloated millionaires. Prospecting parties swarmed out of town with the first flush of dawn,

17:47:41 mircea_popescu: and swarmed in again at nightfall laden with spoil?rocks. Nothing but rocks. Every man's pockets were full of them; the floor of his cabin was littered with them; they were disposed in labeled rows on his shelves."

17:47:47 TheNewDeal: and maria jane

17:48:05 mircea_popescu: sounds like a good deal,that one huh.

17:48:55 mircea_popescu: "frenzied cant" is particularly apt. if only these people living in the mid 1800s had had reddit to revolutionize their thing for them

17:49:02 mircea_popescu: everything'd have been exactly the same,

17:49:04 mircea_popescu: o.O

17:49:57 mircea_popescu: "I met men at every turn who owned from one thousand to thirty thousand "feet" in undeveloped silver mines, every single foot of which they believed would shortly be worth from fifty to a thousand dollars?and as often as any other way they were men who had not twenty-five dollars in the world. Every man you met had his new mine to boast of, and his "specimens" ready; and if the opportunity offered, he would infallibl

17:49:58 mircea_popescu: y back you into a corner and offer as a favor to you, not to him, to part with just a few feet in the "Golden Age," or the "Sarah Jane," or some other unknown stack of croppings, for money enough to get a "square meal" with, as the phrase went. And you were never to reveal that he had made you the offer at such a ruinous price, for it was only out of friendship for you that he was willing to make the sacrifice."

17:50:10 ben_vulpes: reading that clements book of tall tales?

17:50:11 mircea_popescu: then roger ver doesn't get accepted back into the us. i tell you...

17:50:21 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes roughing it. great bitcoin companion.

17:50:37 mircea_popescu: ima try and prevail upon asciilifeform to include selections in his bitcoin book to come.

17:50:59 ben_vulpes: it's a fun one

17:51:12 ben_vulpes: <TheNewDeal> and maria jane << not really back then. kinda like khat if i understand things.

17:51:23 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes read log, be amazed. << /me is not amazed

17:51:43 mircea_popescu: well, we were just discussing dommes and such.

17:52:00 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] this never happened to me before, go to a dentist he dun find something wrong ?! << so i should get my teeth done right before flying home. got it!

17:52:09 ben_vulpes: hey fun fact

17:52:13 mircea_popescu: sure.

17:52:22 ben_vulpes: tax deductible "health savings account" can be spent abroad with no penalties.

17:52:32 mircea_popescu: ahahaah what

17:52:39 ben_vulpes: yup.

17:52:44 ben_vulpes: nominally.

17:52:47 mircea_popescu: who the fuck came up with that one.

17:53:03 ben_vulpes: clearly a case of the people with money fucking people without.

17:53:04 ben_vulpes: again.

17:53:07 ben_vulpes: as always.

17:53:17 mircea_popescu: heh.

17:53:22 mircea_popescu: i dunno what money you need for this.

17:53:28 ben_vulpes: "yes please put retarded rules in place" /me finds best loopholes

17:53:31 mircea_popescu: more like "people on b-a fucking people on reddit. as always"

17:53:50 ben_vulpes: well one's gotta be able and willing and planning to go elsewhere for the scam to make sense.

17:53:51 TheNewDeal: Seriously? Like on otc pills that would be preacriptions in usia?

17:53:55 mircea_popescu: otherwise, airfare is in the range of 1k, which immediately means...

17:54:23 ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: i don't know how prescriptions play into hsa

17:54:26 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes exactly. one is supposed to be using gpg instead of 2fa. not a matter of money. a matter of not bering the retarded son of a stupid mother.

17:54:51 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal if that's the case my mind just boggled.

17:55:05 mircea_popescu: wonder how the system's not leaking a trillion a year.

17:56:05 TheNewDeal: Hsa is like the godsend in the era of abominable obamacare

17:56:32 TheNewDeal: I can put income in pretax, and invest it

17:56:38 mircea_popescu: i still can't grok why the man'd have put his name on it.

17:56:52 mircea_popescu: pretty much sure ticket to being remembered forever as "that black president that killed babies and old people"

17:57:12 ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: yeah but it's like 3k/y

17:57:20 TheNewDeal: Hopefully people will say bad things about him too

17:57:27 ben_vulpes: and you only get to spend it on health shit

17:58:02 TheNewDeal: Regardless. Im a beggar and not a chooser when it comes to favorable tax incentives

17:59:26 Alrenous: mircea_popescu: seems like another case of democracy rewarding the sacrifice of the long term to the short. Odds are his handlers made the call anyway, not him personally.

18:00:24 TheNewDeal: Hsa is the only long term option. You save your own money, you spend it

18:00:38 mircea_popescu: Alrenous riddle me this : what exactly compels a president to honor "his handlers" ?

18:00:40 TheNewDeal: All others are short term socialist constructs

18:01:07 Alrenous: mircea_popescu: Your guess is as good as mine.

18:01:35 ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: since you can only deduct medical expenses over 10% of your income i think it makes more sense to just burn the hsa down each year

18:01:37 TheNewDeal: !Up alrenous

18:01:42 ben_vulpes: is this stupid?

18:02:06 mircea_popescu: it's safer to burn any dollar-denominated anything each year if you get the chance.

18:02:27 ben_vulpes: my notion of the thing is predicated on the stock market not really keeping up with inflation, and wanting to get the most "oomph" out of my health dollars.

18:02:33 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: right.

18:02:38 mircea_popescu: nominally, the dollar was 1 peso 15 years ago, and now it's 14. however, the services that were ten pesos then are two hundred now.

18:02:41 TheNewDeal: I had a very expensive hospital visit the other year and was glad to have saved up

18:03:06 ben_vulpes: sure if you don't have the need for services, save it. i get that.

18:03:32 ben_vulpes: i expect to be racking up 10s of thousands if not hundreds over the next 5 years tho.

18:03:39 TheNewDeal: Or if youre confortable with your health savings account, invest elsewhere

18:20:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 253 @ 0.00657864 = 1.6644 BTC [+] {3}

18:26:22 mike_c: ^ gee, the btc hedge is doing not-bad.

18:26:50 mike_c: not as well as fiat though.

18:32:51 kakobrekla: fiat ftw

18:34:42 jurov: depends which. preferably not euro or even czech crown :)

18:35:05 kakobrekla: ill take even rub.

18:35:59 jurov: yes, rub is good. backed by testosterone

18:37:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5803 @ 0.00044497 = 2.5822 BTC [-]

18:41:58 mircea_popescu: is this some novel porn talk ?

18:47:47 jurov: that's fiat porn

18:49:09 mircea_popescu: lol

18:56:39 mats: http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/le-patron-du-raid-et-des-gipn-coulibaly-ne-souhaitait-pas-negocier-13-01-2015-4442355.php re: half assed raid on kosher shop

18:56:41 assbot: Le patron du Raid et des GIPN : «Coulibaly ne souhaitait pas négocier» ... ( http://bit.ly/1sySkGu )

18:59:38 mats: 'we fucked up and are lucky all the hostages aren't dead'

19:00:38 felipelalli: cazalla: please write something about this price crash. Do you have privileged information?

19:00:45 mats: lol

19:01:53 felipelalli: maybe he is busy working on this article :)

19:07:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00045232 = 9.2273 BTC [+]

19:09:05 TheNewDeal: ;;Market

19:09:05 gribble: Error: "Market" is not a valid command.

19:09:24 TheNewDeal: Been out of the ba game fore too long

19:09:29 TheNewDeal: ;;Ticker

19:09:30 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.04, Best ask: 181.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 181.54, 24 hour volume: 117062.19720299, 24 hour low: 152.4, 24 hour high: 239.09, 24 hour vwap: 198.269565911

19:09:40 xanthyos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7VNkaQIcAAvqt-.jpg

19:09:41 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1syVc61 )

19:10:23 mircea_popescu: "All agreed that a camp fire was what would come nearest to saving us, now, and so we set about building it. We could find no matches, and so we tried to make shift with the pistols. Not a man in the party had ever tried to do such a thing before, but not a man in the party doubted that it could be done, and without any trouble?because every man in the party had read about it in books many a time and had naturally co

19:10:23 mircea_popescu: me to believe it, with trusting simplicity, just as he had long ago accepted and believed that other common book-fraud about Indians and lost hunters making a fire by rubbing two dry sticks together."

19:10:25 mircea_popescu: heh

19:11:01 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: docker is nuts. i hope they make it.

19:13:55 thestringpuller: YES

19:13:58 thestringpuller: 181

19:14:07 thestringpuller: moar panic plz

19:14:14 thestringpuller: Give us all your coinz

19:17:00 mircea_popescu: shhh

19:17:07 mircea_popescu: don't bother the community

19:17:11 mircea_popescu: it's driving adoption.

19:19:55 thestringpuller: cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2sdwf8/butterfly_labs_is_the_culprit/ << do you think there is any truth to this theory?

19:20:18 thestringpuller: the BFL has been forced to refund?

19:20:19 thestringpuller: that*

19:20:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.00044497 = 24.6513 BTC [-]

19:21:00 mircea_popescu: lol

19:21:11 mircea_popescu: everything and anything, eh ? what's next, pirate ?

19:21:27 mircea_popescu: not like bfl's been dead for a year or anything.

19:23:15 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller feel free to tell em for me that if "the community" doesn't like the proximate results of Gavin "innovating", tough. The time to suck cock was the 12th.

19:29:18 ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: it has its uses

19:36:16 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: well it's great for shipping (no pun intended)

19:38:05 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i text a friend of mine, "That's (referring to owning technology without paying for it), even worse! You want nice things without paying for them!" And he responds, "the world needs nice things wihtout paying for them."

19:38:23 thestringpuller: trolling me to perfection

19:40:54 mircea_popescu: derp

19:41:13 mircea_popescu: what "the world needs" is a criterion nao.

19:41:52 davout: greetings gentlemen

19:42:01 mircea_popescu: ello charlie

19:42:40 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: but people want equality!

19:42:40 davout: mircea_popescu: in france the waldo (from "where is waldo") character is named charlie too

19:42:50 mircea_popescu: o

19:43:16 thestringpuller: davout: you'll develop a taste for it << i can see this for coffee and beer but not ruby

19:43:17 davout: the recent protest aerial photographs was a nice source of waldo jokes

19:44:06 davout: thestringpuller: guess you'll have to fallback to "on s'habitue à tout" = "one can get used to anything"

19:44:53 davout: jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#977197 <<< what's an rpi based wallet?

19:45:35 TheNewDeal: Anyone have a spare 2.5 million bezzlers I can borrow?

19:45:40 davout: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#977246 <<< i was wondering about whether these profiles were legit as well

19:46:32 Adlai: buttfinex latency >10x normal levels

19:46:51 kakobrekla: im doing updates so i broke it prolly

19:46:52 jurov: ;;goxlag

19:46:53 gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.

19:46:55 davout: browsed around "collarspace" related sites for a bit, there's some pretty interesting stuff in the whole d/s thing

19:47:39 davout: some stuff that sounds pretty pathetic too, like this pay pig thing i had never heard about

19:48:11 davout: caaz

19:48:20 davout: cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#977284 <<< my approach too :D

19:50:14 kakobrekla: davout> cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#977284 <<< my approach too :D

19:50:14 assbot: Logged on 14-01-2015 16:46:08; cazalla: the sooner he can self instruct, play in the sandpit and fall out of the trees, the better

19:52:14 mircea_popescu: since scoopbot's dead apparently, http://fraudsters.com/2015/bitcoin-circa-1800/

19:52:15 assbot: Bitcoin, circa 1800 pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xZN9Qr )

19:52:15 *: TomServo looks out for the hamburgler.

19:52:51 mod6: awe, was just about to place an order for a two cheeseburgers, a large fry and a coke.

19:53:31 mircea_popescu: mod6 make that a salad, we're poor now.

19:53:44 mod6: those are more expensive. lol

19:54:25 danielpbarron: Washing machines that order their own soap ... first true practical use of cryptocurrency besides drugs! --bitcointalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924725.msg10152645#msg10152645

19:54:25 assbot: So it looks like IBM is going to use Ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1xZNqCL )

19:54:36 mod6: of course they are. morons.

19:55:08 mircea_popescu: lmao

19:55:17 mircea_popescu: STILL with the "first best greatest" ?

20:03:00 hanbot: mircea_popescu the "Golcoinda," << i lolled

20:15:58 thestringpuller: "fridges that order food only from sources that use approved GMO technology from Monsanto"

20:19:34 mircea_popescu: "let's make our living room more like the airport"

20:20:15 []bot: Bet created: "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/

20:25:11 dub: winklevii outreach via buttbet?

20:26:38 []bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for Yes on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 98(Y):2(N) by coin, 98(Y):2(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,999.

20:38:18 kakobrekla: >A man of 20 was jailed in Orleans for shouting "long live the Kalash[(nikov]" at police in a shopping centre

20:38:26 kakobrekla: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30811401

20:38:27 assbot: BBC News - Paris attacks: Dieudonne held as France tackles hate speech ... ( http://bit.ly/14ASSjE )

20:38:48 kakobrekla: in France, this.

20:39:59 dub: thats awesome

20:42:20 dub: oui oui will defend the freedom of expression with our lives. Condoning terrorism! off with your head

20:43:38 davout: free speech is kindof a joke in france...

20:43:52 kakobrekla: shut up!

20:44:02 davout: toi-même

20:44:39 davout: "you're totally free to say what you want, except for this, this, this and this. also you need to be nice to others"

20:44:49 dub: basically jews

20:45:03 dub: you can talk about anythign but jews

20:45:36 davout: hm?

20:45:41 kakobrekla: and niggers afaik ?

20:45:54 dub: Prime Minister Manuel Valls saying that freedom of speech should not be confused with anti-Semitism, racism and Holocaust denial.

20:46:05 dub: free !jew speach

20:46:09 dub: speech

20:47:00 davout: the case kako was reporting about doesn't seem to have anything to do with jews

20:48:27 davout: anyway, my point is that you either have free speech or don't, see the "just a little pregnant" bit earlier

20:48:39 davout: there's no free-speech-but

20:48:45 dub: i pasted a quote from the article

20:49:00 dub: where your prime minister says exactly that

20:50:28 davout: anti-semitism falls in the racism bucket, in france you can get in trouble for saying "burn the jews", and you can get in trouble for saying "burn the niggers"

20:51:04 *: dub doesn't fully understand there is a separate bucket

20:51:10 dub: why*

20:53:32 thestringpuller: davout: it's like a smaller fork!

20:54:15 davout: i guess that anti-semitism was seen as more of a problem when the law was made

20:56:09 dub: well again from the article, mocking dead people, agreeing with other people and appreciating soviet weaponry is off limits too

20:56:45 davout: we also have this part that says you're not permitted to deny the existence of genocides, the holocaust etc.

20:56:48 fluffypony: everyone needs a bucket

20:57:06 davout: yea, it's nuts

20:58:05 dub: thats an interesting one for france given cambodia

20:58:49 davout: thank god we already know the earth is spheric

20:59:50 davout: my serenissima passport won't come too early

21:00:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33777 @ 0.00045196 = 15.2659 BTC [+] {2}

21:01:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33777 @ 0.00045196 = 15.2659 BTC [+] {2}

21:03:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5621 @ 0.00046724 = 2.6264 BTC [+]

21:03:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5621 @ 0.00046724 = 2.6264 BTC [+]

21:06:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44573 @ 0.00045611 = 20.3302 BTC [-]

21:06:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44573 @ 0.00045611 = 20.3302 BTC [-]

21:09:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 6683 @ 0.0005124 = 3.4244 BTC [-] {8}

21:09:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 6233 @ 0.00051127 = 3.1867 BTC [-] {7}

21:22:52 TheNewDeal: Davout "Earth is spheric" - gassenwagen for you

21:26:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14724 @ 0.00044497 = 6.5517 BTC [-]

21:26:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14724 @ 0.00044497 = 6.5517 BTC [-]

22:03:43 ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: one of my favorite things about containerization is the ability to upgrade running production services with a minimum of hassle.

22:04:53 ben_vulpes: for instance, i've got a client who (for some silly reasons) basically needs to throw out their Solr index on a daily basis. the approach to date has been to drop the index at a low-traffic time, rebuild, and hope nobody notices. with docker, we can boot a new container, index into it, and then when the indexing is complete, shut the old solr container down and boot the new solr container.

22:04:59 ben_vulpes: (on the old solr container's port)

22:07:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00044357 = 9.692 BTC [-] {2}

22:07:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00044357 = 9.692 BTC [-] {2}

22:09:36 thestringpuller: can't you upgrade the container without having to even truly rebuild container from image?

22:09:41 thestringpuller: just give it dockerfile with updates

22:18:26 davout: ben_vulpes: "needs to throw out their Solr index on a daily basis" <<< nasty

22:19:12 ben_vulpes: davout: tell me about it

22:19:31 davout: ben_vulpes: sure, that'll be 250$/h

22:19:33 ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: thing is, solr is very stateful inside.

22:19:40 ben_vulpes: davout: pretty much.

22:20:09 ben_vulpes: "hey client, you have two options: either you get lotsa search downtime over the next week while i figure this out, or i write a zero downtime solr cutover thinger for ya."

22:20:13 ben_vulpes: software

22:20:15 ben_vulpes: BIG MISTAKE

22:20:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00044096 = 11.9941 BTC [-]

22:21:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00044096 = 11.9941 BTC [-]

22:26:15 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: well I"m thinking of using docker to deploy gpg server stuffs

22:26:26 thestringpuller: really wish I had a cardano

22:26:39 *: thestringpuller glances briefly at asciilifeform

22:31:57 davout: thestringpuller: i can't think of a purpose for which docker-based deploys would be equivalent to a cardano based setup

22:32:19 davout: equivalent is prolly the wrong word here

22:32:55 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 82(Y):18(N) by coin, 82(Y):18(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.134 BTC. Current weight: 99,972.

22:37:14 mats: yeah wha? gonna send the cardano to the dc?

22:41:11 []bot: Bet placed: 9 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 33(Y):67(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.134 BTC. Current weight: 99,970.

22:43:13 mod6: wonder what $MAX_PAIN will be set to before Fucky McFuckstick ends this charade.

22:43:23 thestringpuller: XD

22:43:26 thestringpuller: too much

22:43:28 thestringpuller: perl

22:43:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69660 @ 0.00044087 = 30.711 BTC [-] {2}

22:44:03 thestringpuller: davout: i'm running docker on local machines and want a cardano to hold certain application keys. plug that up to one of the docker servers. relatively easy airgap

22:44:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69660 @ 0.00044087 = 30.711 BTC [-] {2}

22:44:14 mod6: ;;ticker

22:44:16 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 168.0, Best ask: 169.96, Bid-ask spread: 1.96000, Last trade: 169.96, 24 hour volume: 123479.60147081, 24 hour low: 152.4, 24 hour high: 230.89, 24 hour vwap: 193.627757354

22:44:17 thestringpuller: could do same with old laptop, but cardano is cheaper, and probably more reliable than my handy work

22:56:02 ben_vulpes: daaang.

22:56:07 ben_vulpes: war coins, y'all.

22:56:29 *: ben_vulpes buys all the way down

22:56:30 thestringpuller: If bitpay didn't shutdown their atm I'd buy more

22:56:46 thestringpuller: also if ATMs didn't require a fucking PALM PRINT to identify you

22:56:56 mod6: yeah fts

22:57:07 ben_vulpes: fucking love it

22:57:15 thestringpuller: funny i have to buy btc in person and slip people money under doors and shit

22:57:28 thestringpuller: d00d btc is gonna be pretty much drug dealing in the future

22:57:28 ben_vulpes: "yes i'd be happy to give you all of my deets for my untraceable digicash..."

22:57:37 ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: going to be?

22:57:39 Adlai: there's a lamassu at http://bitembassy.org/ that requires a QR code and cash. that's it.

22:57:41 assbot: Bitembassy TLV | שגרירות הביטקוין ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cn6pH8 )

22:58:00 thestringpuller: well when I did my last trade I counted the money and stuff in front of the guy and checked the bills and shit in public

22:58:16 thestringpuller: that would be a rather conspicuous drug deal

22:58:52 Adlai: http://www.bitembassy.org/wp-content/uploads/photo-gallery/IMG_8275.jpg

22:58:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cn6L0r )

23:00:20 thestringpuller: too bad it isn't feasible for me to pilgrimage for bitcoins :P

23:00:25 thestringpuller: but thanks Adlai

23:01:00 Adlai: we should slap a QR code at the <holy site>

23:01:25 Adlai: people will start leaving qr codes in the wailing wall, instead of prayers

23:06:24 cazalla: felipelalli: cazalla: please write something about this price crash. Do you have privileged information? <<< it was bane

23:09:25 thestringpuller: didn't know they had christopher nolan movies in australia jkjk

23:34:51 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: since viagra... nobody knows you're impotent anymoar lol << The truly old sill use caverject

23:40:53 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: so i don't get that nascar drama. ex-trophy blondie applies for no contact order against her ex. ex swears she's an assassin out to get him. << Basically except... the assasin part seems... credible...

23:47:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3139 @ 0.00051129 = 1.6049 BTC [+] {4}

23:47:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3085 @ 0.0005113 = 1.5774 BTC [+]

23:51:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23994 @ 0.00043382 = 10.4091 BTC [-] {2}

23:52:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73100 @ 0.00043126 = 31.5251 BTC [-] {3}

23:52:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49106 @ 0.00043001 = 21.1161 BTC [-]

23:56:51 mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> in France, this. << top kek

23:57:52 mircea_popescu: <davout> the case kako was reporting about doesn't seem to have anything to do with jews <<< you don't see it because nose! it's a gentile^H^H^H^H redneck thing dub's on about. *we* understand.

23:58:21 mircea_popescu: <dub> why* << they use really tiny instruments.