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00:08:20 mircea_popescu: just in case someone else may get a chuckle out of this :

00:08:21 mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/2841S6uF

00:08:21 assbot: Bitcoin Pete @bitcoinpete 3h @bendavenport @coindesk You too, Ben? Where did - Pastebin.com

00:35:29 mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

00:35:31 gribble: Time since last block: 17 minutes and 27 seconds

00:41:31 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wCgZh-nczY

00:41:31 assbot: Dakh Daughters "Rozy / Donbass" (live acoustic) - YouTube

00:58:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.02300654 = 0.4601 BTC [-] {4}

01:09:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00099859 = 12.9817 BTC [-]

01:10:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 4 @ 0.138 = 0.552 BTC [+]

01:11:14 mike_c: ok, that's creepy.

01:15:17 mircea_popescu: http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2014/05/lousy-recoveries

01:15:17 assbot: Lousy recoveries: No one (important) wants faster growth | The Economist

01:15:41 mircea_popescu: possibly the most retarded article of the week, yet standard fare in today's "climate change" style of pseudo-ecinomics

01:15:44 mircea_popescu: !up slashme

01:15:52 *: slashme

01:15:55 slashme: WHOAS

01:16:05 mircea_popescu: "The bitter truth is that central banks launch economies off the ZLB when politicians force them to. This was true of many economies in the 1930s, it seems like it will be true of Japan, and there is every indication that it will prove true of Europe and America. The ZLB is not an economic problem. It's not about deleveraging or inflation targets. It is a political problem. Preventing the kind of crisis and recovery is

01:16:05 mircea_popescu: easy: just have a political majority committed to something different. "

01:16:15 mircea_popescu: something different aka, let's all be rich permanently for free.

01:16:21 mircea_popescu: seems like a great commitment.

01:16:22 xanthyos: WHOAS ya

01:17:14 mircea_popescu: xanthyos try again, in a language ?

01:17:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00099859 = 7.9887 BTC [-]

01:27:46 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

01:27:50 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 439.16, Best ask: 439.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.74000, Last trade: 439.9, 24 hour volume: 5856.32329823, 24 hour low: 430.61, 24 hour high: 442.74, 24 hour vwap: 437.258929729

01:48:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00100164 = 11.9696 BTC [+] {2}

01:51:58 decimation: "The argument here would be that unconventional policy might be just as effective as conventional policy, but if the Fed is less willing to use it then the ZLB still represents a constraint. " LoL sentence

01:53:16 decimation: If only we could charge people for saving money - imagine the heights of absurdity to which we could steer the currency!

02:00:31 mircea_popescu: all you really need is for 1 = 2. after that, everything is one single step away.

02:01:24 BingoBoingo: In this way Bitcoin has stronger regulation than the USD ever can.

02:03:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00099852 = 9.436 BTC [-] {3}

02:03:35 mircea_popescu: +1

02:04:29 mircea_popescu: "but all you really need is for the politicians to decide otherwise!111"

02:04:42 mircea_popescu: really instructive by contrast with actual economy, the economist.

02:06:05 BingoBoingo: Looks like Hanbot took this bet: http://bitbet.us/bet/845/mers-in-us-over-50-cases-before-july/

02:06:05 assbot: BitBet - MERS in US: over 50 cases before July :: 0.54 B (42%) on Yes, 0.76 B (58%) on No | closing in 1 month 1 week| weight: 99`831 (100`000 to 1)

02:06:14 BingoBoingo: Already getting extra action.

02:06:14 TheNewDeal: that one is interesting

02:07:38 mircea_popescu: not a bad bet.

02:07:52 BingoBoingo: contrast to http://bitbet.us/bet/600/tradefortress-arrested/

02:07:52 assbot: BitBet - TradeFortress arrested :: 0.03 B (25%) on Yes, 0.09 B (75%) on No | closed 2 weeks 2 hours ago

02:08:16 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnYdHI3CAAAEG0k.png

02:09:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0063501 = 0.2223 BTC [+]

02:15:36 BingoBoingo: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-uk-arrest-me-edward-snowden-nsa

02:15:37 assbot: Glenn Greenwald: 'I don't trust the UK not to arrest me. Their behaviour has been extreme' | World news | The Guardian

02:17:13 mircea_popescu: i wouldn't trust the uk to anything. it's basically the political equivalent of nevada. an uninhabited wasteland where you test nukes.

02:19:07 mircea_popescu: "But it's true. He wasn't great at encryption. In common with most journalists working today, he had no clue about tools that would have allowed him to communicate with sources privately, without fear of NSA or any other snooping."

02:19:24 mircea_popescu: these people can't math even to the degree of grasping the most basic points of statistics

02:19:36 mircea_popescu: they can't encrypt, they can barely read and rarely comprehend anything

02:20:00 mircea_popescu: yet they still think themselves journalists. what sense does this make ? a guy thgat can't turn on the stove and regularly cooks moldy chicken isn't a cook

02:20:08 mircea_popescu: some dude that can't work a hammer isn't a carpenter

02:20:33 mircea_popescu: why would a bunch of dorks with nary a clue as to the workings of the actual tools of their trade be even for a second taken seriously as "journalists" ?

02:20:35 mircea_popescu: i don't see it.

02:25:12 benkay: evening

02:29:04 moiety: morning

02:29:09 benkay: hey mo :)

02:29:10 benkay: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/05/13/clay-aiken-congress-democratic-primary/9039487/

02:29:10 assbot: Clay Aiken apparent winner of Democratic primary

02:30:46 TheNewDeal: gunna have to test the old bet both ways theory

02:30:50 *: moiety just woke up

02:41:03 benkay: !up aabtc

02:41:06 benkay: !up agorecki

02:41:12 benkay: agorecki what's your story?

02:41:56 agorecki: benkay: I heard about this channel after mircea saved TrustedBSD, and came here to lurk and see what I could learn

02:42:41 agorecki: I don't think the channel was voice-to-speak only at the time, though

02:42:57 moiety: it's quite a new thing agorecki

02:43:00 BingoBoingo: agorecki: You got your BSD's mixed up

02:43:13 BingoBoingo: agorecki: But yeah, the voicing is new.

02:44:44 agorecki: Ah, right. It was OpenBSD

02:47:21 moiety: i only just learned that myself, while reading the openbsd wikipage. totally epic of him.

02:48:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00100212 = 7.1151 BTC [+] {2}

02:50:22 benkay: save one bsd, save them all.

02:50:54 benkay: okay so here's a thing.

02:51:30 benkay: i came up in computers in the 'configuration management' epoch, where everyone i knew and everyone i worked with was using some sort of software to manage the state of machines virtual or real metal in some datacenter somewhere.

02:51:46 benkay: what's the equivalent of chef or whatever for migrating from, say, bsd box to bsd box?

02:52:05 benkay: how do i get all the packages i plan to compile from source on my spankin' new bsd box to my next one?

02:52:18 benkay: take a disk image and start the next machine from the old one?

02:54:58 benkay: !up grahvity kdomanski_

02:55:09 benkay: !up kdomanski_

02:55:21 benkay: kakobrekla: why u no multiple arity?

02:59:00 kakobrekla: so you can go

02:59:05 kakobrekla: !up benkay good boy!

03:03:20 benkay: ...

03:05:05 benkay: !up wolverineks

03:05:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00099757 = 22.6448 BTC [-] {2}

03:05:12 benkay: think you can hold a connection, wolverineks ?

03:06:13 wolverineks: whoops. sorry. low signal out in the woods. ill turn off auto reconnect.

03:11:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.00709999 = 0.213 BTC [+] {2}

03:12:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.07299699 = 1.168 BTC [+] {3}

03:26:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00100226 = 5.9133 BTC [+]

03:28:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.03139998 = 0.4082 BTC [+]

03:29:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 43 @ 0.02166318 = 0.9315 BTC [-] {9}

03:37:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4769 @ 0.00100256 = 4.7812 BTC [+] {2}

03:45:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31252 @ 0.00100466 = 31.3976 BTC [+] {3}

04:01:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00100494 = 18.7421 BTC [+]

04:23:28 moiety: lol kakobrekla!! thats brilliant :D day made

04:23:44 kakobrekla: ;)

04:53:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00100037 = 13.3549 BTC [-]

05:07:34 Naphex: morning

05:08:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00100008 = 20.8017 BTC [-]

05:11:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.02101 = 0.1681 BTC [-] {2}

05:11:37 TheNewDeal: gmorning

05:15:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00100008 = 9.5008 BTC [-]

05:17:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00100145 = 14.4209 BTC [+] {3}

05:25:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03139998 = 0.314 BTC [+]

05:31:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.041 = 0.451 BTC [-]

06:11:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.138 = 0.276 BTC [+]

06:18:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5736 @ 0.00099823 = 5.7258 BTC [-]

06:20:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8393 @ 0.00099714 = 8.369 BTC [-]

06:20:35 TheNewDeal: .d

06:27:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00099714 = 12.1651 BTC [-]

06:28:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]

06:29:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00099714 = 12.3645 BTC [-]

06:36:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00099714 = 14.309 BTC [-]

06:37:48 fluffypony: this is fascinating

06:37:48 fluffypony: http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~nieh/pubs/asplos2014_cider.pdf

06:40:22 fluffypony: http://pdfnomo.re/asplos2014_cider/ for those that don't like PDFs

06:46:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.44905 = 0.8981 BTC [+] {2}

06:47:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.440505 = 0.881 BTC [-] {2}

06:53:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03139997 = 0.3768 BTC [-]

07:06:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11074 @ 0.00099995 = 11.0734 BTC [+] {2}

07:09:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00670008 = 0.335 BTC [-] {2}

07:23:56 davout: !up Shakespeare

07:24:02 davout: Shakespeare: ohai

07:24:07 Shakespeare: Hello asseteers

07:24:24 Shakespeare: Now reporting from Amsterdam

07:25:01 Shakespeare: I caught up on the log on the plane

07:25:24 Shakespeare: including responding to comments on blog

07:31:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.05833396 = 0.175 BTC [+] {3}

07:34:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]

07:51:32 BingoBoingo: Cool.

07:51:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11583 @ 0.00099761 = 11.5553 BTC [-] {2}

07:51:49 BingoBoingo: Don't forget to go rasta.

07:52:33 BingoBoingo: davout: About the dotcoin thing, it's just a matter of watching how he tosses his word salad

07:52:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 300 @ 0.041 = 12.3 BTC [-]

07:53:40 BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/how-a-mayors-quest-to-unmask-a-foul-mouthed-twitter-user-blew-up-in-his-face/

07:53:40 assbot: How a mayors quest to unmask a foul-mouthed Twitter user blew up in his face | Ars Technica

07:56:15 fluffypony: davout: I should've shut my big fat drunk mouth last night

07:56:18 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=602950.msg6715269#msg6715269

07:56:19 assbot: New Shares on Bitcoin Bourse "TXT"

07:56:21 fluffypony: :-P

08:02:21 fluffypony: !up Shakespeare

08:02:25 Shakespeare: thx

08:02:54 fluffypony: Shakespeare: can't you register this nick with gribble and then we can rate it?

08:03:02 fluffypony: ;;ident Shakespeare

08:03:02 gribble: Nick 'Shakespeare', with hostmask 'Shakespeare!d57f9cda@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.127.156.218', is not identified.

08:03:22 Shakespeare: for some reason, this internet connection doesnt let me use IRC

08:03:28 Shakespeare: i have to use webchat

08:03:46 fluffypony: blows

08:03:49 Shakespeare: so i dont care to auth in this locale

08:04:00 Shakespeare: but it's just a coffee shop

08:04:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.455 BTC [+]

08:04:05 Shakespeare: hotel will prbly work better

08:04:13 fluffypony: ah ok

08:04:31 fluffypony: you should try the more arcane ports like 8002

08:04:48 fluffypony: afaik all the Freenode servers listen on 8000 / 8001 / 8002

08:06:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 53 @ 0.00709 = 0.3758 BTC [+] {2}

08:06:21 Shakespeare: you think i'm some kinda hacker or something?

08:06:25 Shakespeare: up in dem ports

08:07:35 fluffypony: lawlz

08:08:39 Shakespeare: gotta kill 3 more hours...

08:08:47 Shakespeare: before checkin

08:09:34 fluffypony: which airport are you at?

08:09:54 Shakespeare: i'm at a coffee shop, in the city

08:10:06 fluffypony: oh you mean hotel checkin

08:10:13 fluffypony: thought you were waiting for a connecting flight

08:10:13 Shakespeare: yessir

08:11:22 fluffypony: well at least you're in a normal time zone now

08:11:24 fluffypony: :-P

08:11:24 Shakespeare: I purposely bought Lufthansa tickets cuz they are my favorite so far, well the fine print says (United Air)

08:11:28 Shakespeare: some kinda scam

08:11:39 Shakespeare: ended up in old shitty United plane

08:12:14 fluffypony: ah

08:12:16 fluffypony: Star Alliance

08:12:32 Shakespeare: some bullshit

08:12:33 fluffypony: South African Airways is part of that as well

08:12:41 fluffypony: so when we fly SAA to the US

08:12:49 fluffypony: you get conned into believing you're flying SAA all the way

08:12:56 Shakespeare: now i need to start researching the fucking plane to book flights

08:13:02 fluffypony: but the minute they dump you at an airport there all the connecting flights are shitty United flights

08:14:01 Shakespeare: ironically the seats were more comfortable

08:15:30 davout: fluffypony: oh god

08:15:37 fluffypony: davout: I know, I'm sorry :-P

08:17:10 pankkake: https://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/04/29/accounting-for-the-amazing-company-the-bitcointalk-standard/comment-page-1/#comment-882 wait is this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorge_Stolfi ? lol

08:17:10 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

08:17:10 assbot: Accounting for the Amazing Company. The Bitcointalk standard. | pankkake

08:17:11 assbot: Jorge Stolfi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

08:17:24 pankkake: calm down assbot

08:17:37 fluffypony: lol

08:28:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00099643 = 2.9893 BTC [-]

08:30:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00099491 = 6.4669 BTC [-]

08:34:26 fluffypony: !up Shakespeare

09:21:40 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/

09:21:41 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago

09:21:55 mircea_popescu: so people keep clamoring about how the close should be much earlier than the resolution date.

09:22:17 mircea_popescu: then when the close is a month before resolution date, they bet 28 bitcents, 99% less than the average diff bet.

09:22:18 mircea_popescu: herp.

09:23:26 fluffypony: lol

09:29:30 mircea_popescu: classical socialist mindset. fat close buffer means a lot of risk for people betting early, because if something happens they won't be able to cover/adjust for new odds.

09:29:49 mircea_popescu: two bit webtrepreneur figures tis is GREAT because he's thinking of it happening to other people ONLY

09:30:02 mircea_popescu: just like us libtards and taxes, or regulation.

09:30:39 mircea_popescu: when things are changed to accomodate his worldview, then and only then can he see the stuff applying to him. because the libtard has 0 critical thinking ability. unless it's before him, he can't follow a counterfactual.

09:30:55 mircea_popescu: and so... he doesn't want to bet anymore. but now "it's fair", he says, just, no fair he'd want any part of.

09:31:01 mircea_popescu: so he's done fixing california and moves to texas.

09:31:09 mircea_popescu: to make texas "more fair", too, and also liveable.

09:31:18 mircea_popescu: after which he'll move to mexico or w/e, make that fair too.

09:31:22 mircea_popescu: these people should be shot, basically.

09:32:58 mircea_popescu: anyway, fuck that, i'm writing this article.

09:36:33 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 968 @ 0.00310298 = 3.0037 BTC [+] {4}

09:39:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00099542 = 17.818 BTC [+] {2}

09:39:39 cazalla: forgot about that prop

09:39:55 cazalla: i was last to bet eh, oh well

09:41:17 fluffypony: this may be a dumb question, but are your winnings weighted against when you made your bet?

09:43:01 jurov: http://bitbet.us/bet/768/bitcoin-difficulty-over-21b-before-june/ < i completely missed the bet

09:43:01 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty over 21B before June :: 0.02 B (7%) on Yes, 0.26 B (93%) on No | closed 2 days 9 hours ago

09:43:11 pankkake: fluffypony: no. and that would be to easy to exploit

09:43:59 pankkake: hm not sure I understood the question

09:44:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.041 = 0.615 BTC [-]

09:46:32 fluffypony: pankkake: I meant that the guys that bet early take the biggest risk

09:46:42 fluffypony: the late-comers already have an indicator

09:46:55 fluffypony: so their winnings should be weighted as "valuable"

09:47:03 pankkake: well yes, that's the weight

09:48:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.0009963 = 20.3245 BTC [+] {2}

09:49:57 mircea_popescu: just because someone bets early or a lot doesn't mean they have a point.

09:50:05 mircea_popescu: so how do you know they're valuable

09:51:18 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I have nfi, I was just asking

09:51:20 fluffypony: lol

09:51:46 mircea_popescu: i know, but jus' sayin'. it's a signal, but whatg's in a signal. whatsapp selling for 20bn is also a signal.

09:51:53 mircea_popescu: soon to become a signalol.

09:52:28 fluffypony: lol

10:08:30 fluffypony: kakobrekla: am I imagining it or is assbot turning @ into / in tweets?

10:09:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7481 @ 0.00099326 = 7.4306 BTC [-]

10:10:27 mircea_popescu: it is

10:11:59 mircea_popescu: o back under 1 huh

10:12:13 mircea_popescu: well it was quite the ride. i wondere how much of it is due to bitpay's largest ipo ever.

10:18:30 BingoBoingo: BitPay investors hedging their fx risk through BitPay by diversifying into S.MPOE?

10:19:27 BingoBoingo: Or hedging "in case Bitcoin develops the other way"

10:21:41 mircea_popescu: or just wanting to participate or who the hell knows

10:26:33 BingoBoingo: One of the nice things about Bitcoin is that there is so much that simply can't be known.

10:26:51 BingoBoingo: Unless you do everything Hearn suggests.

10:28:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00099326 = 6.6052 BTC [-]

10:30:50 fluffypony: http://www.coindesk.com/bittylicious-adds-visa-and-mastercard-credit-card-support/

10:30:51 assbot: Bittylicious Adds Visa and MasterCard Credit Card Support

10:31:02 fluffypony: only for EU countries

10:38:34 fluffypony: http://news.msn.com/offbeat/italian-factory-makes-bad-mozzarella-13-arrests

10:38:35 assbot: Italian factory makes bad mozzarella, 13 arrests

10:38:40 fluffypony: "The probe began after a worker lost some of his fingers because of safety flaws."

10:46:45 Naphex: maybe safety laws required no fingers?

10:49:32 mircea_popescu: lol

10:49:40 mircea_popescu: safetyf laws.

10:57:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10774 @ 0.00099688 = 10.7404 BTC [+] {4}

11:06:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]

11:56:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03139997 = 0.6908 BTC [-]

11:57:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139997 = 0.942 BTC [-] {3}

11:58:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.03139998 = 0.8792 BTC [+] {4}

12:01:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12164 @ 0.0009959 = 12.1141 BTC [-]

12:05:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22984 @ 0.00099386 = 22.8429 BTC [-] {4}

12:14:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03139998 = 0.2198 BTC [+]

12:30:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 80 @ 0.041 = 3.28 BTC [-]

13:10:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00099703 = 15.1549 BTC [+] {2}

13:13:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.05517004 = 0.5517 BTC [-] {4}

13:14:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07392853 = 0.6654 BTC [+] {2}

13:32:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30915 @ 0.00099298 = 30.698 BTC [-] {2}

13:36:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00099492 = 1.7411 BTC [+]

13:39:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.041 = 0.246 BTC [-]

13:45:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12874 @ 0.00099647 = 12.8286 BTC [+] {3}

13:50:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099289 = 6.7517 BTC [-] {2}

14:00:15 artifexd: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Typo in http://fraudsters.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/ Item 21 is missing the leading "B"

14:00:16 assbot: These people should be shot, basically. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

14:00:16 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:01:54 bounce: such haet

14:02:12 artifexd: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Typo in http://fraudsters.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/ Item 23 is missing the leading "B" <-- lol @ my own typo

14:02:13 assbot: These people should be shot, basically. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

14:02:13 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:07:14 BingoBoingo: Maybe, just maybe, assbot might finally catch up to mircea_popescu

14:17:50 thestringpuller: ;;seen benkay

14:17:51 gribble: benkay was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <benkay> think you can hold a connection, wolverineks ?

14:17:56 thestringpuller: ;;later tell benkay stop being weeeird

14:17:57 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:51:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.041 = 0.41 BTC [-]

14:53:10 benkay: thestringpuller: ?

15:15:23 benkay: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303851804579559071472756120

15:15:23 assbot: Hong Kong's Stock Exchange Receives Summons for Metal Warehousing Complaint - WSJ.com

15:19:29 Azelphur: why do people keep linking that site, baring in mind it's behind a paywall now? here's a non-paywalled article http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2014-05-13/hong-kong-exchanges-and-clearing-challenged-on-metal-warehousing?ea9c8a2de0ee111045601ab04d673622

15:19:30 assbot: Hong Kong's stock exchange challenged on metal warehousing - Financial News

15:20:03 bounce: search for the headline in google (not, say, ixquick) and you can pass the paywall... for now.

15:20:15 Azelphur: heh

15:21:19 bounce: they're not saying so but apparently the big player(s) are actually shipping metal back'n'forth between their own warehouses to skirt regulations, delay deliveries, and so drive up prices

15:23:46 pankkake: Azelphur: your link is paywalled too, for me at least

15:23:54 Azelphur: wasn't for me :o

15:24:09 Azelphur: oh, nice it un-paywalls if you go through google, these paywall sites suck.

15:24:16 fluffypony: Azelphur: did you visit the link from Google?

15:24:24 fluffypony: oh there you go

15:24:37 fluffypony: WSJ is the same, you visit from Google and it's fine

15:26:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15245 @ 0.00099738 = 15.2051 BTC [+]

15:26:16 mike_c: benkay: you ever use ansible?

15:27:21 pankkake: it werks with https://i.imgur.com/JLzPzsd.png

15:28:41 fluffypony: pankkake: such hakker

15:29:13 pankkake: since I block referer by default, had no choice

15:29:28 pankkake: I used to have custom funny referers for friends' sites

15:30:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6782 @ 0.00099774 = 6.7667 BTC [+] {2}

15:31:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0070997 = 0.355 BTC [+]

15:32:40 mike_c: ^ investors liked rent's recent update.

15:32:53 kakobrekla: what was that

15:33:21 mike_c: just a snapshot on where they are at, properties and such. they are claiming NAV of 0.0083 btc per share

15:33:31 kakobrekla: cool

15:34:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.07193522 = 1.7264 BTC [+] {13}

15:36:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 15 @ 0.0981065 = 1.4716 BTC [+] {8}

15:39:48 benkay: mike_c: not that one in particular, but i'm pretty well versed in configuration mgmt at large. why do you ask?

15:40:17 benkay: hey, rent's a great deal in a bear btc market.

15:40:17 mike_c: curious if you had any experience with it. i am considering trying it out.

15:40:31 benkay: are you running bare metal?

15:40:50 mike_c: um, no? virtual servers.

15:41:57 benkay: just write scripts and shoot them in the head when they get uppity.

15:42:23 mike_c: that's what i have done in the past (largely with fabric). thought maybe i'd get fancy.

15:42:30 benkay: don't get fancy.

15:42:46 mike_c: but automation! magic! it's easier until it doesn't work!

15:42:52 benkay: mhm.

15:43:12 benkay: you know what's entirely adequate automation? bash scripts and an api for terminating uppity instances.

15:43:43 benkay: this for the record you cloud haters is why other peoples machines are great.

15:43:47 benkay: idempotence comes for free.

15:43:52 benkay: "free"

15:49:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [+]

15:56:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00099808 = 6.9866 BTC [+]

15:57:02 benkay: !up phish

16:00:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.46321873 BTC to 8`673 shares, 28401 satoshi per share

16:05:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11290 @ 0.00099808 = 11.2683 BTC [+]

16:12:27 benkay: !up pactr

16:16:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03105611 = 0.3727 BTC [-] {3}

16:16:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8196 @ 0.00099785 = 8.1784 BTC [-] {2}

16:16:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02322594 = 0.1161 BTC [-] {2}

16:16:27 fluffypony: mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go?

16:16:46 fluffypony: ansible is awesome, but I found it over-engineered for the relatively simple stuff I need

16:17:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20907 @ 0.00099281 = 20.7567 BTC [-]

16:17:18 fluffypony: kinda like how I spent 2 days getting exim4 perfectly setup as an mta for outbound mail when sendmail would be fine

16:17:23 fluffypony: good memories

16:17:45 mike_c: well, scripts are fine for semi-fancy. if i'm going to learn something new i'd rather it be something i want to know going forward. which i think would be ansible over chef/puppet.

16:18:14 fluffypony: yeah if you want to pick up a skill ansible is definitely a better option

16:27:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11336 @ 0.00099427 = 11.271 BTC [+]

16:29:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+]

16:31:46 bounce: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/13/bitcoin-regulations-idUSL6N0NY4UL20140513

16:31:46 assbot: Bitcoin needs regulatory framework to change risky image| Reuters

16:36:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0739653 = 0.1479 BTC [-]

16:37:50 fluffypony: dat risqué image

16:40:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [-] {2}

16:41:54 FabianB: "The Bitcoin Foundation aims to standardise the currency" <-- are there different bitcoins?

16:42:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20038 @ 0.00099227 = 19.8831 BTC [-] {2}

16:42:31 bounce: blue, and green, and redlisted, and whatnot. well, if the foundation has its way at least.

16:42:52 fluffypony: FabianB: haven't you heard - Bitcoin 2.0 is coming

16:43:27 FabianB: so they want to anti-standardise

16:43:38 fluffypony: MaidSafe was Bitcoin 2.0

16:43:44 fluffypony: then sidechains was Bitcoin 2.0

16:44:29 bounce: next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day

16:45:37 Apocalyptic: bounce, these derps...

16:45:47 FabianB: or even carry more than one

16:46:16 fluffypony: I think coloured coins was Bitcoin 2.0 at one point

16:46:17 bounce: hey, they got elected in fair vote! can't be that bad, can they?

16:47:09 Apocalyptic: fluffypony, now it's NXT i think

16:47:56 fluffypony: maybe African-American coins are the way of the future

16:47:56 fluffypony: Apocalyptic: probably

16:48:12 Apocalyptic: not that i follow that scene that much

16:52:22 rithm: derp

16:52:33 rithm: if the foundation wants to do it, it must be bad

17:04:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00099134 = 6.7411 BTC [-]

17:11:16 punkman: if you ever run out of lols... https://www.dhs.gov/dhs-daily-open-source-infrastructure-report

17:16:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00099083 = 17.3395 BTC [-] {2}

17:16:22 punkman: https://www.contributoria.com/issue/2014-05/5319c4add63a707e780000cd

17:16:24 assbot: Whats the evidence on using rational argument to change peoples minds? : May 2014 : Contributoria - community funded, collaborative journalism

17:17:30 kakobrekla: fluffypony re twitter, thats what the output from htmldom came to be, i havent bothered to check the details at all :)

17:17:54 fluffypony: ah k

17:18:07 fluffypony: I wonder if it's not some weird utf-8 oddity that's causing it

17:18:50 kakobrekla: no clue but is it an issue, its not like @ its going to 'work'

17:19:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.02353799 = 0.4943 BTC [+] {2}

17:19:39 fluffypony: not an issue, just makes some of the tweets read weirdly

17:20:00 kakobrekla: so its not an issue only that it is

17:22:01 fluffypony: exactly

17:24:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.074 = 0.518 BTC [+]

17:27:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7818 @ 0.00099015 = 7.741 BTC [-] {2}

17:35:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 23 @ 0.041 = 0.943 BTC [-]

17:37:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14365 @ 0.00099013 = 14.2232 BTC [-] {2}

17:38:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07397821 = 0.6658 BTC [-]

17:39:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00099013 = 17.1292 BTC [-]

17:43:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 48 @ 0.00680008 = 0.3264 BTC [-] {2}

17:47:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12571 @ 0.00099011 = 12.4467 BTC [-] {2}

17:51:35 fluffypony: http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2014-05-12-b3b3939.png

17:53:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00099427 = 12.5278 BTC [+]

17:56:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2826 BTC [+]

17:57:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.02449366 = 0.3184 BTC [+]

17:59:30 bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/14/first-largest-bestest-ever-in-the-us/

17:59:31 assbot: First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete

18:02:50 artifexd: This has been running smoothly for a while now so I'll share it here: ##bitbet-rt

18:03:52 pankkake: cool

18:04:44 artifexd: Since it is kinda slow, this is what the past 12-ish hours looked like: http://dpaste.com/0QNY970/

18:04:45 assbot: dpaste: 0QNY970

18:04:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.03139999 = 2.0096 BTC [+]

18:05:10 bitcoinpete: nice artifexd

18:05:17 pankkake: does it show comments too?

18:05:19 artifexd: ty

18:05:51 artifexd: No. Just bets created and bets placed.

18:05:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 33 @ 0.041 = 1.353 BTC [-]

18:06:10 artifexd: If kakobrekla creates a feed for comments, I'll add them.

18:07:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.132 = 0.264 BTC [-]

18:08:05 kakobrekla: coolness artifexd

18:08:13 kakobrekla: !up artifexd double voice for you

18:08:18 artifexd: lol

18:08:28 thestringpuller: !down kakobrekla

18:08:31 thestringpuller: lol

18:08:32 thestringpuller: jkjkjk

18:08:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03139999 = 0.2512 BTC [+]

18:09:27 fluffypony: "thestringpuller's Guide to Losing Voice in #bitcoin-assets - A Compendium"

18:09:53 thestringpuller: ppffft kakobrekla got mah back

18:10:05 thestringpuller: except in a knife fight

18:10:21 fluffypony: lol

18:11:01 thestringpuller: thestringpuller's guide to pulling strings

18:11:02 thestringpuller: lol

18:12:30 fluffypony: now that I'd pay for

18:15:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5007 @ 0.00099011 = 4.9575 BTC [-]

18:16:46 bitcoinpete: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-14/francis-bacon-portrait-of-companion-fetches-80-8-million.html

18:16:46 assbot: Billionaires Help Christies to Record $745 Million Sale - Bloomberg

18:17:51 bitcoinpete: warhol's riot fetched $62M, up 23.3% compounded annually since last sold in 1992.

18:17:58 bitcoinpete: there's your inflation

18:23:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00098986 = 9.7501 BTC [-]

18:24:15 fluffypony: bitcoinpete

18:24:15 fluffypony: I don't get the Ohio thing

18:24:17 fluffypony: what am I missing?

18:25:12 bitcoinpete: fluffypony: must be where angellist is based

18:25:19 bitcoinpete: or davenport is from

18:25:34 fluffypony: oic

18:25:36 bitcoinpete: what ohio has to do with anything isn't clear to me either lol

18:25:48 fluffypony: glad there wasn't some important back story I was missing

18:26:06 artifexd: Isn't that were the20year is doing his RENT thing?

18:26:09 bitcoinpete: i think the world is missing this back story

18:26:15 fluffypony: I don't get why the maths is so hard for them

18:26:28 fluffypony: the world's most expensive pizza will always be the 10k BTC pizza

18:26:32 fluffypony: forever

18:26:36 bitcoinpete: either way, we're nearing the end of americans walking on the streets in berlin and telling people what state they're from

18:26:40 fluffypony: because nobody will ever pay more for that in BTC

18:27:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.041 = 0.123 BTC [-]

18:27:31 fluffypony: and as the tweet pointed out, 30k BTC > 20k BTC

18:27:44 fluffypony: the USD exchange rate at the time being rather irrelevant

18:27:49 Apocalyptic: "30k BTC > 20k BTC" dat statement

18:28:03 bitcoinpete: it's like the wright brothers paying 6 airplanes for a pizza, now us wondering how many 787s that is

18:28:30 bitcoinpete: ok not quite...

18:29:09 fluffypony: heh

18:29:35 kakobrekla: a btc in a btc irrelevant of timespace

18:29:40 bitcoinpete: it's more like the art market

18:29:48 kakobrekla: spacetime

18:29:50 kakobrekla: whatever.

18:30:06 fluffypony: Inspector Spacetime?

18:30:24 bitcoinpete: there's only one of calder's poisson volant

18:30:28 kakobrekla: inspector speculum

18:30:44 bitcoinpete: speculator inspectum

18:34:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.074 = 0.222 BTC [+]

18:35:37 bounce: inspector gadget

18:38:38 bitcoinpete: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-13/bitcoin-bingo-what-ticker-will-the-winklevii-pick-for-their-etf-.html

18:38:38 assbot: Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg

18:38:43 bitcoinpete: everyone wants to know!

18:40:52 fluffypony: the tension!

18:46:00 Apocalyptic: sigh

18:46:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4549999 BTC [+]

18:46:37 mike_c: oh, fu facebook. i get it.

18:46:43 mike_c: took a minute

18:47:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00098967 = 12.9647 BTC [-]

18:48:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07499986 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3}

18:52:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 243 @ 0.00098986 = 0.2405 BTC [+]

19:01:41 bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/#comment-329

19:01:42 assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | When Bitcoin Met Pete

19:01:50 bitcoinpete: someone's not happy...

19:05:59 mike_c: what 8 years is he talking about?

19:08:51 bitcoinpete: the 8 years maidsafe spent "working" and "pitching vcs"

19:09:22 bitcoinpete: being unsuccessful in accomplishing anything productive in that time

19:09:28 bitcoinpete: but y'know, they tried

19:09:35 bitcoinpete: and toured the world

19:09:41 bitcoinpete: and derped

19:10:56 mike_c: you should tell him it's a really fucking stupid name too.

19:11:42 pankkake: is there an explanation for the name? it sounds like something against the evil maid attack, but isn't

19:12:28 bitcoinpete: maybe it has something to do with rosie, the jetsons' maid

19:13:25 mike_c: Massive Array of Internet Disks Something something something

19:16:09 bitcoinpete: that works too

19:16:30 danielpbarron: your data is "made safe" by their service (that's what I assumed it meant)

19:16:50 bitcoinpete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48itJfUr8ZM

19:16:50 assbot: The Jetsons 1963 - YouTube

19:17:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20266 @ 0.00099422 = 20.1489 BTC [+] {2}

19:17:12 mike_c: "It's an acronym; "Massive Array of Internet Disks, Secure Access For Everyone"."

19:17:56 danielpbarron: they should work for congress

19:18:07 bitcoinpete: bbl

19:19:24 kakobrekla: but if you gotta pay for it, just buy a server ?

19:19:48 kakobrekla: not that im saying stuff you wouldnt pay for is worth saving

19:41:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.02350366 = 0.3526 BTC [-] {4}

19:42:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02348994 = 0.6577 BTC [-] {6}

19:43:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03139999 = 0.3454 BTC [+]

19:44:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 31 @ 0.03139999 = 0.9734 BTC [+] {3}

19:52:01 bounce: http://readwrite.com/2014/05/13/mobile-wallets-reality

19:52:03 assbot: Let's Face Facts: Mobile Wallets Are Doomed – ReadWrite

19:53:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399001 BTC [-]

19:55:51 artifexd: http://bitbet.us/bet/846/ <- first time I've seen a bet before the initial two bets were placed.

19:55:51 assbot: BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0 B (50%) on Yes, 0 B (50%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 100`000 (100`000 to 1)

19:56:19 mike_c: quick, get the best weight!

19:56:20 kakobrekla: yeah i was just typing it in the other chan only to get muted :)

19:56:44 bounce: oooh seekrit channels where kako gets muted

19:57:02 kakobrekla: :D

19:57:11 mike_c: kako got muted in all the channels, that's why he made his own :)

19:57:18 kakobrekla: ...

19:57:26 kakobrekla: keep em comming now

19:57:27 mike_c: next is his own forums :D

19:57:28 artifexd: I should probably change the topic to point people to here if they want to discuss it.

19:57:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 223 @ 0.0042203 = 0.9411 BTC [-] {5}

19:57:57 kakobrekla: registration will be 31 btc

19:58:00 kakobrekla: for the forums

19:59:18 Duffer1: ;seen dexX7

19:59:27 kakobrekla: any posting a banable offense

19:59:32 Duffer1: ;;seen dexX7

19:59:32 gribble: dexX7 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <dexX7> okay, not this hehe

19:59:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.04175 = 0.835 BTC [+] {2}

20:00:03 Duffer1: good afternoon gentlemangs

20:00:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03139999 = 0.628 BTC [+]

20:01:29 kakobrekla: hey

20:01:30 artifexd: Topic changed. Anybody that wants to offer suggestions/criticisms/whatever and can't talk in here should be smart enough to figure out who runs the bot.

20:02:10 artifexd: s/should be/will need to be/

20:02:27 mike_c: you should flip that. anyone can post, but posting gets you banned, then 31 btc to get unbanned. you'll be rich.

20:03:29 kakobrekla: but socks?

20:03:31 artifexd: Interesting idea. Put the warning in the topic. Ban them with a message: Send 0.001 BTC to XXX to get unbanned. Collect riches.

20:04:04 fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/yeGvLEO.jpg

20:06:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.145 BTC [+]

20:07:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]

20:09:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8849 @ 0.00100003 = 8.8493 BTC [+]

20:10:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [-]

20:10:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0071 = 0.355 BTC [+]

20:13:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00100033 = 1.8006 BTC [+]

20:17:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07399 = 0.222 BTC [-]

20:18:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0739809 = 0.8138 BTC [-] {2}

20:19:01 kakobrekla: fluffypony scammer

20:19:29 fluffypony: plz

20:19:33 fluffypony: seasoned scammer to you

20:19:42 fluffypony: little bit of salt and pepper

20:19:44 kakobrekla: no you are, thats not a jpg.

20:19:54 fluffypony: lol

20:20:01 fluffypony: that's imgur's fault not mine

20:20:11 kakobrekla: just shill then

20:20:19 fluffypony: imgur shill

20:20:26 kakobrekla: totally

20:20:28 fluffypony: where is my wealth creation!

20:21:15 thestringpuller: fluffypony: fucking build a machine to take money from the poor

20:21:26 thestringpuller: ;;last seenbitcoinpete

20:21:26 gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)

20:21:29 thestringpuller: ;;last seen bitcoinpete

20:21:29 gribble: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message (1 more message)

20:21:34 thestringpuller: ;;seen bitcoinpete

20:21:34 gribble: bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 3 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <bitcoinpete> bbl

20:21:41 fluffypony: I meant from shilling for imgur

20:21:44 fluffypony: :-P

20:22:32 kakobrekla: they pay you directly in dogecoins

20:22:58 thestringpuller: which will be worth x0.5 in a year

20:23:00 thestringpuller: because you know

20:23:02 thestringpuller: inflation

20:24:43 kakobrekla: moiety what happened to dat wiki page?

20:31:10 fluffypony: thestringpuller didn't they cancel that inflation thing

20:31:16 fluffypony: and everyone was up in arms

20:32:00 fluffypony: http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/02/dogecoin-to-allow-annual-inflation-of-5-billion-coins-each-year-forever/

20:32:00 assbot: Dogecoin to allow annual inflation of 5 billion coins each year, forever | Ars Technica

20:32:09 fluffypony: “Thanks for killing the profitability of the currency. Now it's going to be worthless in a couple of years and never reach the value of Bitcoin or even anywhere close,” wrote MadCold on Github.

20:32:16 fluffypony: l.o.l. (tm)

20:32:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00100069 = 2.2015 BTC [+]

20:36:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.041 = 0.164 BTC [-]

20:48:31 kakobrekla: artifexd bugs!

20:48:50 artifexd: I see that. I have a plan. I will code it up tonight.

20:59:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0749999 = 0.3 BTC [+]

21:01:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.041 = 0.205 BTC [-]

21:01:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}

21:07:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.434 = 1.736 BTC [-] {2}

21:08:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00422006 = 0.3587 BTC [-] {2}

21:13:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03139999 = 0.942 BTC [+]

21:14:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00100069 = 8.3057 BTC [+]

21:23:16 thestringpuller: ;;later tell bitcoinpete how come my gravatar isn't working? what did I mess up?

21:23:17 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:27:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.0905 = 0.181 BTC [+] {2}

21:28:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]

21:41:29 thestringpuller: ;;calc 8.5 * 5

21:41:30 gribble: 42.5

21:42:25 thestringpuller: ;;calc 168 - 42.5

21:42:26 gribble: 125.5

21:42:46 thestringpuller: ;;calc 125.5 / 7

21:42:46 gribble: 17.9285714286

21:43:09 benkay: fluffypony> mike_c: if you want to get semi-fancy with less headaches maybe puppet is the way to go? // uuhauahauauhauhuahuahunooooooooooo

22:00:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]

22:01:10 thestringpuller: puppet?!?!?

22:01:15 thestringpuller: benkay go make some vm's

22:01:16 thestringpuller: lol

22:01:16 thestringpuller: jkjk

22:01:17 thestringpuller: <3

22:02:29 fluffypony: thestringpuller: he was quoting me, he's too cool for puppet:)

22:13:11 benkay: cool or ghetto

22:13:12 benkay: cannot tell

22:14:06 fluffypony: benkay: we'll go with cool

22:14:09 mircea_popescu: so adding to the delights of weird shit happening to me, today... i got flooded.

22:14:10 fluffypony: or hipster if you'd prefer

22:14:23 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: like water flooded or IRC flooded?

22:14:30 mircea_popescu: water flooded

22:14:36 fluffypony: dang

22:14:48 mircea_popescu: rainfal was 150mm easy

22:17:07 mircea_popescu: artifexd ty fixt.

22:17:48 mircea_popescu: !up Folichon-

22:28:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.041 = 0.492 BTC [-]

22:29:04 kakobrekla: artifexd you might take out 'New' out of the strings, since the thing is never 'old'

22:31:24 mircea_popescu: http://www.opiniatimisoarei.ro/wp-content/gallery/inundatii-timisoara-2/inundatii-timisoara-ploaie-torentiala-4.jpg < sort of idea.

22:31:32 mircea_popescu: that was afternoon.

22:33:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.075 = 0.825 BTC [+]

22:34:37 mircea_popescu: and, of course, http://www.renasterea.ro/images/stiri/ploaie_vara-28622.jpg

22:36:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.07462678 = 3.0597 BTC [-] {3}

22:37:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.07397821 = 2.9591 BTC [-]

22:39:44 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell thickasthieves who the fuck waits for hotel checkins, srsly.

22:39:44 gribble: The operation succeeded.

22:42:00 mircea_popescu: bounce my understanding is that various govts/the bureaucratic interest are pushing to block or if not possible tightly control all shipments of precious metals among any independent entities, traders or not.

22:42:23 mircea_popescu: this under the guise of the usual methods, falsely accusing these of "breaking the law", or fail that, "being racist"

22:43:56 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1206333552/twit.jpg

22:44:07 mircea_popescu: this twit has opinions on what bitcoin needs and its image.

22:44:25 mircea_popescu: dude, seriously, why is every two bit stripper claiming to be working "in the press" ?

22:47:12 kakobrekla: <[]bot> New bet placed: 26 BTC for no on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment (http://bitbet.us/bet/786/)". Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1085.51619404 BTC. Current weight: 82,303

22:47:28 kakobrekla: some bettor woke up

22:47:40 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/#b140

22:47:41 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1007.93 B (93%) on Yes, 77.59 B (7%) on No | closing in 9 months 6 days | weight: 82`298 (100`000 to 1)

22:47:46 mircea_popescu: o look at that it's starting to move

22:47:47 mircea_popescu: damn.

22:47:54 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla y u no slower!

22:48:17 mircea_popescu: and where is this bet ?

22:48:20 mircea_popescu: this bot*

22:48:38 kakobrekla: dont you read ze logs

22:48:38 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2014#675235

22:48:38 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

22:48:49 mircea_popescu: i'm behind

22:48:52 mircea_popescu: because water.

22:50:28 mircea_popescu: http://pando.com/2014/05/14/sorry-america-the-ukraine-isnt-all-about-you/

22:50:29 assbot: Sorry America, the Ukraine isn’t all about you | PandoDaily

22:52:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00100216 = 18.9408 BTC [+] {2}

22:54:04 mircea_popescu: Catherine Rampell @crampell ? 2h Over a lifetime, average US college graduate will earn at least $800,000 more than the average high school graduate http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/05/us-usa-fed-college-idUSBREA440KD20140505

22:54:04 assbot: Skip college, forfeit $800,000: Fed study| Reuters

22:54:05 mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu ? now @crampell That lifetime started in 1960 and ended in 2005. The next lifetime will be quite distinct. Fight the present, not the previous war

22:54:07 mircea_popescu: such herpetology.

22:57:37 mircea_popescu: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/05/linux-gets-fix-for-code-execution-flaw-that-went-unpatched-since-2009/

22:57:38 assbot: Linux gets fix for code-execution flaw that was undetected since 2009 | Ars Technica

22:59:02 mircea_popescu: ll/pp/qq are dne

23:05:45 mircea_popescu: bounce: next you'll need a bitcoin transmission licence to send (or receive) more than 1 bitcoin per day << in their own little koi pond where bitpay is the largest best first company and us side vcs matter, they can do whatever the hell they want, up to and including a plastic version of bitcoin to go with the plastic version of a steak.

23:06:19 mircea_popescu: you didn't expect the dead to actually embrace their death, did you ? ever sent a teenager upstairs to clean up their room ?

23:06:42 mircea_popescu: of fucking course they'll be back on the gamestation half hour later swearing up and down that they have, and the disorder apparent is just their implementaiton of order.

23:07:26 benkay: can't wait to deploy my war face against that

23:08:51 mircea_popescu: benkay gotta talk to a woman about that, i can't help you :D

23:09:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00100305 = 0.6018 BTC [+]

23:09:53 mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/14/first-largest-bestest-ever-in-the-us/ << this guy's enthusiastic.

23:09:56 assbot: First! Largest! Bestest! Ever! In The US | When Bitcoin Met Pete

23:10:30 mircea_popescu: o hey artifexd, nice bet

23:10:32 mircea_popescu: bot*

23:10:46 mircea_popescu: mind adding it in here with a special rule to only dump bets > 1btc ?

23:13:15 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I don't get the Ohio thing << ohio is the shithole state. i used it as a metaphorical derogatory, to help the guy understand that his vc circuit is a bit player in bitcoin.

23:13:55 fluffypony: got it

23:15:19 mircea_popescu: assbot: Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF? - Bloomberg << "we forgot to mention that mp said this in his mpoe reports for february. it just occurred to us, just like that, out of the depths of our ramen fed brainz."

23:15:26 mircea_popescu: gotta love teh press.

23:16:35 mircea_popescu: god i hated the jetsons. that and scooby doo, worst fucking cartoons in the history of cartoons.

23:17:42 mircea_popescu: artifexd: http://bitbet.us/bet/846/ <- first time I've seen a bet before the initial two bets were placed. << that's the sign by which you know a zeroconf.

23:17:42 assbot: BitBet - Clay Aiken to win in NC :: 0.04 B (40%) on Yes, 0.06 B (60%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`917 (100`000 to 1)

23:18:24 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: any posting a banable offense << i thought this forum already existed ? i haven't posted in it since 2011

23:20:59 mircea_popescu: http://linux.fe.up.pt/portal/aggregator/sources/2

23:21:00 assbot: Ubuntu Security Notices | Linux FEUP

23:21:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00099724 = 8.1774 BTC [-] {2}

23:21:04 mircea_popescu: the epic just piles on.

23:21:44 mircea_popescu: Ilja van Sprundel discovered that libXfont incorrectly handled font

23:21:44 mircea_popescu: metadata file parsing. A local attacker could use this issue to cause

23:21:44 mircea_popescu: libXfont to crash, or possibly execute arbitrary code in order to gain

23:21:44 mircea_popescu: privileges.

23:23:19 punkman: WEBFONTS!!!11!

23:23:25 mircea_popescu: win.

23:24:39 mircea_popescu: o look at that, i'm all caught up with logs.

23:24:45 mircea_popescu: i accomplished so much today.

23:24:49 fluffypony: well done

23:24:51 punkman: I think I might grab one of these for airgappin https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware

23:24:52 assbot: A10-OLinuXino-LIME - Open Source Hardware Board

23:24:53 fluffypony: hand shakes all round

23:25:00 fluffypony: mircea_popescu question

23:25:07 fluffypony: you use AN0 for S.MG right

23:25:15 fluffypony: why not for S.MPOE and S.NSA?

23:25:23 fluffypony: sorry S.BBET not S.NSA

23:25:34 mircea_popescu: Or that more attractive people are judged as more trustworthy, or they arguments they give as more intelligent. << this is actually not that bad a bias.

23:25:44 mircea_popescu: fluffypony cause those existed pre an0 basically

23:26:27 punkman: mircea_popescu: how is it a good bias?

23:26:40 fluffypony: I know that, but lately I've been reading the AN0 overview over and over again to be able to use it, and you said that in 2014 it would become compulsory for all assets on mpex?

23:26:58 mircea_popescu: punkman beauty is simply a sign of good quality genetics. all things equal, beautiful people are more likely to be intelligent than ugly people.

23:28:05 mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah. except mpoe is incorporated as a zero asset corp, and bitbet may be migrated, once i have some time to dick with that.

23:28:17 fluffypony: kk

23:28:29 mircea_popescu: so far it's ambiguously either of the two, and a bunch of other stuff needs reviewing about it

23:29:02 fluffypony: I like the format, definitely more elegant than the way MPOE reports atm, for instance

23:29:35 mircea_popescu: certainly lengthier, for no clear benefit

23:29:45 fluffypony: in MPOE's case yes

23:30:13 fluffypony: oh btw

23:30:13 mircea_popescu: right.

23:30:23 fluffypony: the subject of "seats" came up on -otc today

23:30:24 mircea_popescu: one of the issues with bitbet is how exactly the bets will be treated

23:30:30 mircea_popescu: aha ?

23:30:33 fluffypony: and I did some reading on the NYSE

23:30:36 fluffypony: fascinating stuff

23:30:38 mircea_popescu: right.

23:30:51 fluffypony: and holy shit were those seats expesnive

23:30:53 fluffypony: *expensive

23:31:04 fluffypony: even now that they've gone to a yearly "license" model

23:31:10 fluffypony: it's still $40k a year

23:31:18 fluffypony: vs. ~$13k once off for MPEX

23:31:26 mike_c: hah. 40k a year is expensive? :)

23:31:39 mircea_popescu: imo they cheapened it into the dirt

23:31:42 fluffypony: mike_c: not the post-2005 model, the fixed seats model

23:31:52 mircea_popescu: hardly worth having one (and the people that had them back in the day are pissed at nyse for it)

23:32:11 mircea_popescu: the collapse of the us is made of little pukes like that.

23:32:18 fluffypony: mike_c: they had 1366 seats total, fixed and you couldn't get more

23:32:22 mike_c: 40k is like 25% of the cost of 1 engineer

23:32:25 mircea_popescu: lose a bunch of smart traders in the wtc, piss off everyone with a populist nyse franchise,

23:32:27 mircea_popescu: stuff like that

23:32:33 fluffypony: "The most expensive inflation-adjusted seat was sold in 1929 for $625,000, which, today, would be over six million dollars. In recent times, seats have sold for as high as $4 million in the late 1990s and as low as $1 million in 2001."

23:33:40 BCB: mircea_popescu, when did you get banned from BCT

23:33:56 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's quite funny - the Twitter exchange earlier led me to stumbling across MPEX's AngelList profile around the same time as the conversation in -otc

23:33:57 mircea_popescu: generally speaking, any move you take to make anything more accessible, makes it shittier. in general, by a larger % than the gain of accessibility.

23:34:01 mircea_popescu: BCB what's bct ?

23:34:12 BCB: Bitcoin Talk

23:34:17 fluffypony: and on AngelList it says "The NYSE of Bitcoin" or something

23:34:19 mircea_popescu: fluffypony nobody can say they didn't have a fair chance. they blew it, tho.

23:34:19 fluffypony: which makes sense

23:34:35 fluffypony: vs. BitcoinBourse that say they want to be "the Wall Street of Bitcoin"

23:34:41 fluffypony: clearly misunderstanding wtf Wall Street is

23:35:02 mircea_popescu: and i'll delight in punishing all the vcs with it in the years to come. "here. this was your job. this was your job that you didn't do. because you suck. because you're inept. because you can't do your job. like children. look how stupid you were. you still are."

23:35:20 mircea_popescu: yeah well, they're limited by what they see on cereal cartons.

23:35:24 fluffypony: BCB: hanbot is banned, mircea_popescu isn't

23:35:35 BCB: who is hanbot

23:35:39 fluffypony: MPOE-PR

23:35:52 mircea_popescu: BCB do you mean https://bitcointa.lk/threads/maged-permabanned-mpoe-pr-because-she-swore-shock.292615/ ?

23:35:55 assbot: Maged permabanned MPOE-PR because she swore shock | Bitcointa.lk

23:35:55 BCB: fluffypony, does she have a chaturbate account

23:36:12 mike_c: not to defend the vc's. but currently the best VC's are priced out of bitcoin companies. what startup are they going to put serious money into? not many choices.

23:36:16 fluffypony: BCB: doubt it :-P

23:36:33 fluffypony: mike_c: obviously Bitpay because biggest and best and largest

23:36:41 mike_c: and even that wasn't that big

23:36:47 BCB: swore shock??

23:37:16 mircea_popescu: mike_c which is, exactly, http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-future-of-bitcoin-regulation/

23:37:17 assbot: The future of Bitcoin regulation pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

23:37:23 mircea_popescu: who the fuck told them to come a year too late ?

23:37:32 mircea_popescu: why didn't they read fraudsters april 2013 and execute THAT WEEK ?

23:37:40 mircea_popescu: what is this shit, i give orders and they disobey ? because why ?

23:38:15 mircea_popescu: of fucking course you'll be priced out of what fraudsters tells you to do in april 2013 if you wait till april 2014. if you weren't priced out that'd mean fraudsters sucks.

23:38:17 mircea_popescu: it doesn't.

23:38:38 mircea_popescu: "This is possibly the last chance to take those piles of fundamentally worthless US dollars and use them for something with any sort of future value.", the man said.

23:38:55 mike_c: hehe. well, when things heat up another order of magnitude they will start writing checks like it's going out of style. even if it is too late.

23:39:00 mircea_popescu: sure.

23:39:03 fluffypony: what is humorous are the people bitching about 30 BTC per seat when that was $600

23:39:14 mircea_popescu: and i'll be all http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2014#675569

23:39:15 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

23:39:24 mircea_popescu: fluffypony it was free for a whole month.

23:39:34 mircea_popescu: all the shits-for-brains on the forum knew better.

23:39:42 mircea_popescu: then it was 20 btc, when btc was $5

23:39:45 fluffypony: yeah, long before my time unfortunately

23:39:48 mircea_popescu: all the shits for brains knew better.

23:39:48 mircea_popescu: etc.

23:39:56 fluffypony: iz ok, I still have jurov to hook me up

23:40:15 mike_c: ;;calc (30 * [ticker --last])

23:40:17 gribble: 13339.5

23:40:28 mike_c: ^ way less then 40k a year

23:40:38 mircea_popescu: mike_c was as high as nyse, practically. back when btc went over 1200

23:40:48 fluffypony: mike_c: and really not a bad price if you're institutional

23:41:06 fluffypony: even if you're just toe-dipping into BTC

23:41:09 mike_c: i don't think it's ever been a bad price. best time to buy a mpex seat is today.

23:41:29 mircea_popescu: pankkake http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/06/bitcointalk-always-retarded/ << you need to write more words. spell things out.

23:41:29 assbot: Bitcointalk, always retarded | pankkake

23:41:43 mircea_popescu: mike_c you must agree i know how to price.

23:41:48 fluffypony: I think it's out of my league, not entirely from a price perspective but more from a "what would I do with it" perspective

23:41:57 mircea_popescu: kinda funny for someone with 0 days experience in sales/product.

23:42:01 fluffypony: I'm too casual an investor to make it work for me

23:42:17 mod6: buy & hold?

23:42:21 mircea_popescu: fluffypony if you think about it, nyse has 1.5k seats or so, and perhaps 150mn diff people ever traded on it.

23:42:25 mircea_popescu: that'd be 1 in 100k.

23:42:36 fluffypony: mod6: I can do that through coinbr tho

23:42:57 mircea_popescu: but yes, unless your portofolio is > 1k btc, you don't really need a seat imo.

23:43:03 fluffypony: yeah that's the thing

23:43:12 mircea_popescu: !jd mpif

23:43:12 assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 164.65235181 BTC; +0.28620048 BTC (+0.1741%) since last check 1d 23h 28m 22s ago.

23:43:22 fluffypony: maybe possibly if I stumbled into the knowledge / time / inclination to run a brokerage it would be worthwhile

23:43:43 fluffypony: but otherwise my portfolio is too small fry to justify it

23:44:05 mircea_popescu: srsly, who still has a forum account ?

23:44:09 mircea_popescu: tell phinn gage to come over.

23:44:11 fluffypony: mod6: oh wait - did you mean buy the seat and hold it, not buy the seat and then buy shares and hold them?

23:44:41 mod6: naw, just the latter.

23:44:42 jurov: someone figured out how to trade gpg privkeys?

23:44:46 fluffypony: ah ok

23:44:57 mod6: forgot about coinbr. lol, sorry jurov :)

23:45:28 mircea_popescu: pankkake you seriously claim to have seen most porn in existence ?!

23:45:44 mircea_popescu: how is that even possible, i'd guess even excluding cams and amateur shit, there's well over 1mn hours floating around.

23:45:54 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 24 * 365

23:45:55 gribble: 8760

23:46:04 mircea_popescu: even if nonstop... 100 years ?

23:46:29 jurov: he's watching it 10x faster on 10 monitors

23:46:47 mod6: lol, all on FF

23:47:24 mircea_popescu: lmao

23:47:46 mircea_popescu: i mean he could say he's seen most GIRLS that ever shot more than a few tests

23:47:54 mircea_popescu: i know guys with similar performance

23:47:59 mircea_popescu: well... gals, mostly, but anyway.

23:50:00 fluffypony: bed time noa, night all

23:50:17 mircea_popescu: dear channel, i have a question.

23:50:46 mircea_popescu: chick that's not been allowed to wear pants for 5 years now or something, tried on one of my pairs for fun. she looked incredibly hot in them.

23:50:48 mircea_popescu: am i gay ?

23:51:14 BCB: are you gay?

23:51:49 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust bcb

23:51:49 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask BCB!~BCB@unaffiliated/bcb. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bcb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 9 via 12 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bcb | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bcb | Rated since: Thu Sep 20 19:03:51 2012

23:52:03 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you need someone with a proper gaydar to tell you

23:52:03 mircea_popescu: plz to be seriously.

23:52:11 kakobrekla: the answer is: no its european?

23:52:14 mircea_popescu: who got a gaydar

23:52:17 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol

23:52:24 mircea_popescu: i bet ascii got a gaydar.

23:52:34 fluffypony: lol

23:52:35 mircea_popescu: he's got every other gadget in his 400 sq feet of "living" space

23:52:56 BCB: That beard is very gay.

23:53:02 fluffypony: ok gone for reals noa, bye

23:53:08 mircea_popescu: beards are manly.

23:53:13 mod6: ^^

23:53:22 BCB: vv

23:53:53 kakobrekla: >>

23:53:58 kakobrekla: like pankkake porn

23:54:03 mod6: haha

23:54:06 mircea_popescu: lol

23:54:29 mircea_popescu: check that out, all the olschool cats trust BCB

23:54:39 kakobrekla: ;;rated bcb

23:54:40 gribble: You have not yet rated user bcb

23:55:13 BCB: mircea_popescu, not pirateat40

23:55:21 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla omfg, look at that, 1k trust. we are x.x

23:55:38 mircea_popescu: BCB what do you do, paypal arbitrage basically ?

23:56:31 BCB: I did. Before paypal shot down all my accounts.

23:56:36 mircea_popescu: so what do you do now ?

23:56:46 BCB: nothing :(

23:57:02 BCB: I'm not a Money Transmitter in the US

23:57:31 mircea_popescu: well so how would you like a managerial position in mpif ?

23:57:33 mircea_popescu: We think our actions express our decisions. But in nearly all of our life, willing decides nothing.

23:57:34 mircea_popescu: "We cannot wake up or fall asleep, remember or forget our dreams, summon or banish our thoughts, by deciding to do so.

23:57:40 mircea_popescu: dude this is total bs. i can do most of those things.

23:58:12 BCB: You sound like Steve Jobs

23:58:30 mircea_popescu: i have a much better beard than jobbs ever had.

23:58:51 BCB: True that

23:58:58 BCB: what does it pay

23:59:02 BCB: I'm not cheap

23:59:17 mircea_popescu: read the contract first.

23:59:41 BCB: send it to me

23:59:53 mircea_popescu: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=F.MPIF

23:59:54 assbot: F.MPIF last 140@0.00021725