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Transcript for 15-01-2015, 936 lines:

00:00:14 mircea_popescu: dub: thats an interesting one for france given cambodia << ahahahaha

00:00:18 mircea_popescu: ok best log

00:01:21 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: for instance, i've got a client who (for some silly reasons) basically needs to throw out their Solr index on a daily basis. << you know, a tool that empowers you to do sometyhing stupid is not a powerful tool.

00:01:26 mircea_popescu: it just seems like one. to you.

00:03:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78900 @ 0.0004229 = 33.3668 BTC [-] {2}

00:03:23 mircea_popescu: dub: winklevii outreach via buttbet? << capn' Talism yo. one pays, one can name his terms.

00:03:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78900 @ 0.0004229 = 33.3668 BTC [-] {2}

00:04:52 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: If bitpay didn't shutdown their atm I'd buy more << this lulz is so lulzy to me.

00:11:11 asciilifeform: useful-things-announcement: a fairly civilized router, turns out, is one 'edgerouter lite' - 3 gigabit ports. mips64 processor with fairly good docs. nuke the vendor's turdware and install *bsd of your choice. the interesting thing about this gadget is that the firmware lives on an (internal) removable usb stick. can pull, examine, modify on standard comp, even theoretically install read-only unit.

00:11:37 asciilifeform: getting fairly good performance on one of these with freebsd 10.

00:11:55 mircea_popescu: you actually verified it has no 2nd brain this thing ?

00:12:11 asciilifeform: in the electron microscope sense? nein

00:12:20 asciilifeform: it does come with a vendor turd os

00:12:20 mircea_popescu: in the pcb sense

00:12:56 asciilifeform: it has the cpu (really a soc), four drams, and a bunch of passives.

00:12:59 mircea_popescu: i'm going through a phase atm something like "fuck this shit, i need a non-pc router like i need an ipad."

00:15:01 *: asciilifeform assumes his isp is the mitm vector of choice, and hence does not regard router as a serious hardened component. but has many problems with reliability and programmability of the usual consumer turdware.

00:15:36 mircea_popescu: makes sense

00:16:12 asciilifeform: this here gadget is a ~100 usd piece that handily runs, say, a btc node. with good performance.

00:17:04 asciilifeform: metal chassis, rs232 port. very unusual in that respect. almost like something made 20 yrs. ago. hence the mention of it here.

00:17:16 mircea_popescu: gtk.

00:17:48 *: asciilifeform reminds readers who may come across this device not to use vendor's turd - a fairly standard linux but with a closed kernel module, apparently

00:20:34 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4 heh

00:20:35 assbot: Chris Rock - Black People VS. Niggaz (Bring the Pain 1996) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FYb4VN )

00:23:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.10799062 = 1.7278 BTC [-] {2}

00:23:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.10799062 = 1.7278 BTC [-] {2}

00:27:25 BingoBoingo: !up BiTMiND

00:28:37 asciilifeform: hactive.googlecode.com/files/CN50XX-HRM-V0.99E.pdf << leaked data sheet for the soc in gadget mentioned earlier. you can't actually get this from the vendor.

00:28:48 asciilifeform: (afaik)

00:29:15 mircea_popescu: lol

00:29:30 mircea_popescu: jesus the world we live in.

00:30:38 asciilifeform: mind-blowingly detailed datashit, however.

00:32:45 asciilifeform: woah, hardware memory management.

00:32:53 asciilifeform: (see pp. 254.)

00:33:39 mircea_popescu: maybe whioever made it was so proud of it ... he had to

00:33:50 asciilifeform: lol

00:34:24 asciilifeform: interestingly, there is, afaik, no support for any of the spiffy bells & whistles (hardware tcp/ip, queueing, packet inspection, etc.) in any civilized os.

00:34:32 asciilifeform: because, naturally, one would have to read the leaked ds

00:34:40 asciilifeform: and That Would Be Wrong (tm)

00:35:42 asciilifeform: i mention all of this because, while academic for the lot of us, there are folks who actually need to diddle 1M+ packets/sec. in some intelligent way.

00:35:47 asciilifeform: and it doesn't happen on a pc.

00:35:54 asciilifeform: they're stuck using weird turdware.

00:36:33 asciilifeform: supplied, afaik exclusively, by satan's loyal imps.

00:37:00 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and That Would Be Wrong (tm) <<< i think doing away with FOSS shared idiocy will be the greatest bitcoin contribution to the movement.

00:37:14 asciilifeform: which idiocy

00:37:23 asciilifeform: (so many to choose from)

00:37:46 mircea_popescu: yes, you can turn down commits that change he to her. if women get upset, that's because the women in question are stupid and they don't belong in tech ; yes you can use proprietary code. if anyone doesn't like it, anyone can suck a free bag of dicks ;

00:38:19 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right now it is elementary fear of usg that keeps the leaked docs scarce and largely unused

00:38:20 mircea_popescu: etc etc. there's this large pile of mental viral load they're currently carrying, so as to do essentiually what the power rangers want bitcoin to do : play cozy with TITB.

00:38:25 mircea_popescu: aka the idiots that be.

00:38:26 thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/555375854314717186 << what is so interesting ~_~

00:38:34 asciilifeform: though there is an elaborate dance where folks implement xxxx and then pretend it wasn't using leaked/nda docs

00:38:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah yeah. synergy.

00:39:21 asciilifeform: ( for gentoo enthusiasts - http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3 )

00:39:22 assbot: MIPS/ERLite-3 - Gentoo Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1xr63dM )

00:39:42 mircea_popescu: the key to escaping from usg is not caring about usg issues ; the key to not caring about usg issues is escaping from usg.

00:39:45 mircea_popescu: they solve each other.

00:40:21 asciilifeform: the key to exploring the solar system is escaping the earth's gravity, yes. but easy to say!

00:44:08 asciilifeform: interestingly, thing has an rng, and manual actually provides a schematic supposedly for it.

00:44:15 asciilifeform: (it is not an especially good one)

00:44:36 asciilifeform: pp. 658-9. in case someone was actually following this thread.

00:45:26 asciilifeform: (what rng? ring oscillator jitter, with sha1 whitening.)

00:52:17 asciilifeform: i'd avoid the built-in aes, etc. instructions. if i were hitler and ordering a 'magic packet' back-door for this device, i would almost certainly ask that it spit back recently-used operands for these on the wire.

00:52:53 asciilifeform: curiously, it even has a hardware galois field multiplier. to tempt folks using elliptic curves.

00:54:32 asciilifeform: last bit re: this gadget: seems like the open source folks were somehow clued in regarding, and dared to put to use, the aes acceleration.

00:55:50 asciilifeform: this is mildly suggestive of vendor having encouraged this

00:55:57 asciilifeform: no prizes for guessing why.

01:06:42 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (what rng? ring oscillator jitter, with sha1 whitening.) <<< better than many

01:07:08 asciilifeform: better than an entirely fake one, sure.

01:07:51 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> no prizes for guessing why. << usual management cluelessness

01:08:26 asciilifeform: or - someone would like to see these put to use.

01:09:55 asciilifeform: (who typically succumbs to the temptation of using hw-accelerates, e.g., aes? - folks setting up vpn or otherwise bridging nets with serious traffic. aka delicious targets for usg.)

01:25:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3039 @ 0.00054222 = 1.6478 BTC [+] {11}

01:26:01 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's "web technology". there are no good tools.

01:26:22 *: mircea_popescu enjoys the luxuries of preaching naked.

01:26:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 15970 @ 0.00057724 = 9.2185 BTC [+] {16}

01:26:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 15853 @ 0.00058356 = 9.2512 BTC [+] {10}

01:27:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 8088 @ 0.00058692 = 4.747 BTC [+] {7}

01:27:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 6000 @ 0.00058588 = 3.5153 BTC [+] {5}

01:29:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00058999 = 1.357 BTC [+] {3}

01:29:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00058999 = 1.357 BTC [+] {3}

01:39:58 *: ben_vulpes wonders how many hours of humanity have been wasted saving the wrong file

01:41:28 mircea_popescu: the rong file ?

01:44:32 []bot: Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 20(Y):80(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 25.134 BTC. Current weight: 99,930.

01:46:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0004212 = 5.265 BTC [-]

01:47:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0004212 = 5.265 BTC [-]

01:47:20 BingoBoingo: Better crank up those txfees https://imgur.com/GAklIdZ

01:47:21 assbot: Bitcoin network is maxed out. The backlog of unconfirmed transactions is now a few blocks large. - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1BsMgRF )

01:48:09 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check out the megaspam right under that lol

01:48:16 BingoBoingo: Yeah.

01:48:42 mircea_popescu: total fees, .5 btc. for 5k txn. so we wanna do it at 0.1 bitcent per tx. because why the fuck not, right ?

01:48:57 mircea_popescu: swift costs 50 bux to send, but bitcoin should do it for 20 cents.

01:49:27 mircea_popescu: and the fact that 5k idiots worth together a restaurant meal are left out is somehow BITCOIN's problem.

01:49:45 mircea_popescu: check it out yo! all the broke ass niggers at the ritzy club entrance have a quarter between them!

01:49:52 mircea_popescu: that red rope gotta go!

01:50:27 BingoBoingo: Well right now the idiots are trying 0.01 Bitcent and still some a tenth of that because it is the cutoff the the various "antispam" limits.

01:50:33 mircea_popescu: find me a fucking txn where visa charged 17.5 cents.

01:50:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58050 @ 0.00041605 = 24.1517 BTC [-] {2}

01:51:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58050 @ 0.00041605 = 24.1517 BTC [-] {2}

01:51:52 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller weren't you due some qntra material ?

01:51:56 mircea_popescu: you can't sleep on it yo!

01:52:13 mircea_popescu: it's a news site not a mortuary service.

01:53:36 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1103/bitcoin-to-drop-under-170-before-march/ <<< re the "one week" clause bs. it just invalidated this bet.

01:53:37 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin to drop under 170$ before March :: 1.14 B (81%) on Yes, 0.26 B (19%) on No | closed 1 minute ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1BsNAUy )

01:53:39 mircea_popescu: now nobody gets anything.

01:56:03 mircea_popescu: anx says "the order engine has turned off. please try again later."

01:56:10 mircea_popescu: if anyone's looking for things to look into.

02:13:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25502 @ 0.00042293 = 10.7856 BTC [+]

02:13:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25502 @ 0.00042293 = 10.7856 BTC [+]

02:14:46 BingoBoingo: http://www.theawl.com/2015/01/re-new-wired-offices

02:14:47 assbot: Re: New WIRED Offices - The Awl ... ( http://bit.ly/1BsSuRw )

02:22:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.00042588 = 11.1368 BTC [+]

02:22:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.00042588 = 11.1368 BTC [+]

02:25:01 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: how does one keep an office tidy?

02:25:53 BingoBoingo: That I'm not sure. I mean for lesser offices you can get a janitor, but anytime sensitive information is being handled...

02:29:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2548 @ 0.00058999 = 1.5033 BTC [+] {4}

02:29:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2548 @ 0.00058999 = 1.5033 BTC [+] {4}

02:37:40 mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately, too often the place where we do that important work looks, at best, like a dorm room."

02:37:41 mircea_popescu: doh ?

02:38:04 mircea_popescu: "Please. WIRED is no longer a pirate ship. It?s the home of world-changing journalism."

02:38:06 mircea_popescu: it fucking died.

02:38:20 mircea_popescu: wasn't feeling all that well for years, but...

02:38:31 mircea_popescu: " It?s the West Coast home of Cond? Nast. "

02:38:33 mircea_popescu: quite exactly.

02:38:52 mircea_popescu: "And it?s increasingly a place where we, and our New York colleagues and owners, host artists, founders, CEOs, and advertisers." splendid :

02:41:23 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "Please. WIRED is no longer a pirate ship. It?s the home of world-changing journalism." << Now a "Museum Ship"

02:41:45 mircea_popescu: world changing journalism lol.

02:41:58 mircea_popescu: wht's this obsession with changing the world anyway ? very insecure people.

02:42:35 BingoBoingo: Well, they understand they can't survive the world as is, so their reflex is... change the world. So much easier than changing self.

02:43:28 mircea_popescu: it's the universal superlative by now. world changing novels and toothpaste, cars and fruit juicers, politicians and nail polish.

02:43:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10015 @ 0.00060498 = 6.0589 BTC [+] {3}

02:43:53 mircea_popescu: brb while i fartchange the world!

02:44:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10015 @ 0.00060498 = 6.0589 BTC [+] {3}

02:48:29 mircea_popescu: ahh that felt like a most worldchanging dump i just took.

02:48:34 mircea_popescu: anyone perceive any difference ?

02:51:22 mod6: it does feel lighter in here

02:52:06 mircea_popescu: ahh! then i can go to bed without paxil for once!

02:52:18 BingoBoingo: I think I can smell it

02:52:37 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> ahh! then i can go to bed without paxil for once! << Talk about drugs that develop a physical addiction.

02:53:45 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

02:53:47 gribble: Current Blocks: 339002 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1701 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 40372940928.2 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.18418

02:56:32 BingoBoingo: ;;buy 40 PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor at negotiable Serious Inqueries only

02:56:32 gribble: Error: 'mining' is not a valid price input.

02:57:45 BingoBoingo: ;;buy 40 "PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor" at "negotiable" Serious Inqueries only

02:57:45 gribble: Error: 'negotiable' is not a valid price input.

02:58:45 BingoBoingo: ;;buy 40 "PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor" at 1 BTC Serious Inqueries only

02:58:45 gribble: Order id 21899 created.

02:59:34 mod6: hah

03:00:16 BingoBoingo: Serious, would pay 1 BTC or more for that.

03:00:55 mod6: i believe you

03:01:18 BingoBoingo: Plan is park it near a beach, run the farm off of the reactor's output and mine on free electricity for 20+ years.

03:03:24 BingoBoingo: Mining gear is going to be cooled by the hull sitting in water.

03:03:35 BingoBoingo: Parties are going to happen on the deck.

03:03:51 kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats

03:03:55 gribble: Current Blocks: 339003 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 1700 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 6 hours, 11 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 40346650088.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.24397

03:04:58 BingoBoingo: Internet connectivity through Starbucks public wifi/GPRS cell data when starbucks cuts us off... if they dare...

03:28:04 danielpbarron: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/astoria/man-killed-by-roommate-astoria-apartment-nypd-says

03:28:05 assbot: Teen Bitcoin Trader Beat Lawyer Roommate to Death with Hammer, Sources Say - Astoria - DNAinfo.com New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2CLZo )

03:28:18 danielpbarron: Capobianco and Smith were in business together trading Bitcoin, a type of online currency, according to state records and online at sites like LocalBitcoins.com and BTCjam.com.

03:28:25 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.wired.com/2014/12/life-and-death-of-the-racket/ << cazalla

03:28:27 assbot: The Guerrilla Tactics of The Racket, and How It Almost Upended Journalism | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2CNAp )

03:28:27 gribble: The operation succeeded.

03:28:57 BingoBoingo: "After noticing that he had fewer than 10,000 followers on Twitter, they bought him 100,000 in chunks of a few thousand at a time?although the number was in constant flux because Twitter kept zapping the bot accounts. The point to all of it was ? well ? They didn?t really seem to have one?"

03:29:36 danielpbarron: https://localbitcoins.com/ad/127753/buy-bitcoins-with-cash-east-new-york-brooklyn-ny-usa

03:29:38 assbot: Buy bitcoins with cash in US Dollar (USD), East New York, Brooklyn, NY, USA, ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2CZQf )

03:30:34 BingoBoingo: ?They do good work but the voice of the site is just so dry and neutral,? said Pareene. ?We want to be loudly shouting opinions at people until they get mad at us.? << Pareene nao is a Gawker stoolie

03:31:58 BingoBoingo: !up Tsdfiofi

03:32:03 BingoBoingo: Hello Tsdfiofi

03:35:10 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Looks like perfectly normal gay domestic violence.

03:36:04 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

03:36:07 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 193.0, Best ask: 193.02, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 193.02, 24 hour volume: 134429.47125864, 24 hour low: 152.4, 24 hour high: 220.86, 24 hour vwap: 188.924982829

03:36:11 BingoBoingo: BUt... Their blood is on Buterin's hands

03:37:30 danielpbarron: not in the WoT; no surprise

03:38:38 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Well, you have to understand the empire state, state of mind

03:45:45 danielpbarron: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/cirrus-bitcoin-bucks

03:45:46 assbot: An Undercover Agent Was Making $1000 a Week in Bitcoin as a Silk Road Admin | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2Fzpt )

03:47:38 BingoBoingo: http://www.dorkly.com/post/71697/5-insane-things-about-the-mobile-game-starring-kate-upton

03:47:40 assbot: 5 of the Weirdest Things About That Kate Upton Mobile Game - Dorkly Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2FPF5 )

03:49:41 BingoBoingo: ^ In spite of idiot venues highlighting the suck of tablet games...

03:55:19 danielpbarron: 5. A Belgian kid spent $46,000 in Game of War: Fire Age by himself << wtf.

03:55:22 BingoBoingo: special agent with the US Internal Revenue Service Gary Alford

03:55:51 BingoBoingo: ^ And Alford plea is one of the historically lulziest outcomes fo criminal cases

03:58:54 BingoBoingo: "Jury will prolly habbeb you, Imma start the sentence sooner"

04:08:36 BingoBoingo: !up HlySht

04:08:44 BingoBoingo: HlySht: How's the bleeding?

04:13:34 BingoBoingo: OMG SVU tonight had the best opening musical montage ever!

04:23:14 ben_vulpes: add keyserver to the list of things la serenissima wants its own of, eh?

04:24:00 BingoBoingo: Prolly

04:24:25 BingoBoingo: A gossipd-net of keyservers would be divine

04:26:07 BingoBoingo: Just pissing UDP to rando IP's is the wave of the future.

04:30:35 *: ben_vulpes imagines gossipd clients

04:30:57 ben_vulpes: !up nOgAnOo

04:31:02 ben_vulpes: goddamnit

04:31:18 ben_vulpes: ;;eauth ben_vulpes

04:31:19 gribble: Request successful for user ben_vulpes, hostmask ben_vulpes!~ben_vulpe@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

04:31:30 ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:3f779cee60464cb63982c04c8eb36825f2565313c3c5afc80d8b0200

04:31:30 ben_vulpes:

04:31:31 gribble: You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

04:31:35 ben_vulpes: !up nOgAnOo

04:31:48 ben_vulpes: godDAMNIT

04:31:52 kakobrekla: :D

04:31:55 ben_vulpes: !up nOgAnOo

04:31:59 nOgAnOo: Thank you sir!

04:32:09 ben_vulpes: what brings you around?

04:32:13 kakobrekla: you must thank him trice now.

04:32:19 nOgAnOo: I just seen some logs talking about the bitcoin fork..

04:33:22 nOgAnOo: 20MB block size.. I don't understand it yet..

04:33:31 nOgAnOo: But I don't trust the Bitcoin Foundation at all..

04:34:03 danielpbarron: what's wrong with the bitcoin foundation?

04:34:25 nOgAnOo: Just a bad feeling.. the same feeling I have about Moolah

04:34:44 kakobrekla: !s moolah

04:34:45 assbot: 55 results for 'moolah' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=moolah

04:35:23 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: You have to accept that at this point many people saying "Bitcoin Foundation" are going to be referring to the dinosaur fundnation.

04:35:24 artifexd: <BingoBoingo> A gossipd-net of keyservers would be divine << I like it

04:35:24 nOgAnOo: That they are elitists and very rude to the community mostly.. Like how does a ban-happy kid like gmaxwell control the IRC channel and main forum?

04:35:52 nOgAnOo: gmaxwell put a very bad taste in my mouth for bitcoin long ago and I turned to altcoin communities as soon as they arrived.

04:36:06 BingoBoingo: artifexd: Seriously. The future is pissing UDP thinly, but everywhere. That is how you culture deniability.

04:36:17 kakobrekla: and now you found out that altcoin extremist are also bad ?

04:36:28 nOgAnOo: keko, the greed has spread everywhere like a virus!

04:36:51 nOgAnOo: I am making my own 100% airdrop coin for IRC games called NyanKoin

04:36:56 danielpbarron: ..

04:37:06 nOgAnOo: Distributing hopefully through 40 or more airdrop methods

04:37:10 BingoBoingo: Sounds shady nOgAnOo are you actually usagi?

04:37:22 kakobrekla: lol

04:37:33 nOgAnOo: When litecoin came out I was pissed

04:37:37 nOgAnOo: I thought there was not room for 2 coins

04:37:47 kakobrekla: here isnt ?

04:37:48 nOgAnOo: now my philosophy has changed.. I am ready to make my first and only coin

04:37:58 danielpbarron: make sure the block size limit is 20 mb so you get max adoption rate

04:38:31 *: nOgAnOo clueless as to what 20MB blocks would change

04:38:42 *: BingoBoingo ready for price of actually delivered coins to spike to $5000/per+

04:38:59 BingoBoingo: * nOgAnOo clueless as to what 20MB blocks would change << would sink tx fees

04:39:40 nOgAnOo: Thanks

04:39:57 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/555580737286864896

04:39:58 assbot: ./helenzaltzman is your dad the Godfather? "But until that day, accept this justice as a gift on my daughter's wedding day." :-)

04:40:01 kakobrekla: from ocean floor to magma.

04:40:10 nOgAnOo: So anyways.. speaking of assets.. I'm going to be accepting bitcoin for pepper and tomato seeds

04:40:11 BingoBoingo: Seriously

04:40:19 nOgAnOo: Would anyone even spend bitcoin at this price?????

04:40:24 BingoBoingo: nOgAnOo: What about... End product.

04:40:43 BingoBoingo: <nOgAnOo> Would anyone even spend bitcoin at this price????? << Because some people accept actual price.

04:40:57 BingoBoingo: <gribble> #21899 || BingoBoingo || BUY 40.0 PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor @ 1 BTC || Serious Inqueries only

04:41:42 nOgAnOo: What do you mean BingoBoingo, end product?

04:41:49 nOgAnOo: Making sauces and things?

04:41:59 nOgAnOo: I've got ideas for foods that would blow your mind, sir..

04:42:01 BingoBoingo: nOgAnOo: I mean the peppers and tomatoes

04:42:09 nOgAnOo: Think willy wonka, the candy that turns to different foods

04:42:11 nOgAnOo: "_

04:42:12 nOgAnOo: :)

04:42:29 BingoBoingo: lol

04:42:54 nOgAnOo: Tonight I am making pumpkin pie rollups.. spicy tomato rollups.. venison jerky.. more ginger lemon detox drink and possibly french onion soup and watermelon tropical punch honey gummy worms

04:43:06 nOgAnOo: I'm going to overtake walmart

04:43:30 nOgAnOo: Not like I care about that but I do like eating my own homegrown organic foods and candies

04:43:53 nOgAnOo: I'm doing honey.. maple syrup.. mushrooms.. orchards.. berry patches.. grapes.. veggies.. herbs.. melons..

04:44:05 nOgAnOo: I've got 70 varieties of peppers and 50 varieties tomatos

04:44:12 nOgAnOo: it's been my plan for 3 years to start a crypto seedbank

04:44:24 nOgAnOo: but it takes a few years to start producing bulk.. I garden alone...

04:44:33 BingoBoingo: <nOgAnOo> it's been my plan for 3 years to start a crypto seedbank << I thought it was cryo

04:44:36 nOgAnOo: I just planted 777 carolina reapers last week

04:44:44 nOgAnOo: hottest pepper in the world

04:45:44 nOgAnOo: How would one asset back a coin at a non-set price?

04:46:05 nOgAnOo: 1 coin = 1 seed.. depending on harvest volume...

04:46:09 BingoBoingo: Well, what is wrong with distillation fractions and just growing capsasin crystals?

04:46:31 danielpbarron: nOgAnOo, you should just abandon that idea entirely

04:46:51 nOgAnOo: I am not purely in this for capsaicin.. I like the flavor of certain peppers.. I also want to extract terpenes one day and eat fresh

04:46:53 BingoBoingo: <nOgAnOo> 1 coin = 1 seed.. depending on harvest volume... << Problem is you think 1 coin is one seed and I think one coin is a typhoon classs submarine

04:47:28 nOgAnOo: I need some sort of algorithm where the asset backing can fluctuate gently

04:47:42 nOgAnOo: 1 carolina reaper seed is worth 30 cents minimum on ebay now

04:47:47 nOgAnOo: 2 years ago it was 1.50

04:47:49 danielpbarron: if there is profit to be made, the best structure for what you're describing is a stock that pays dividends; not a currency

04:47:59 nOgAnOo: share cropping?

04:48:04 BingoBoingo: lol, I want a cliff I can jump off of into tons of down feathers, for the thrill

04:48:12 danielpbarron: a company that sells seeds or whatever you are producing

04:48:24 nOgAnOo: I want to attach paper wallets to my products like camel cash

04:48:44 nOgAnOo: give them a share of my company when they buy my products.. micro-shares

04:48:47 BingoBoingo: <nOgAnOo> I want to attach paper wallets to my products like camel cash << Mega scam

04:49:30 danielpbarron: customers don't necessarily make good share holders

04:49:44 nOgAnOo: I just want to make it fun.. people like rewards

04:49:56 BingoBoingo: Rewards are tricky business.

04:50:02 nOgAnOo: I will give htem a bazooka joe comic or camel cash note style paper wallet that is worth some pepper seeds

04:50:25 nOgAnOo: or they can trade those assets for other coins on the market

04:50:48 kakobrekla: you came from reddit or what

04:50:56 danielpbarron: the whole point of having seeds is actually having the seeds; not some paper representation of them

04:50:56 nOgAnOo: No I've been an IRC kiddie for 15 years

04:51:00 nOgAnOo: I hate reddit

04:51:10 kakobrekla: weird

04:51:45 nOgAnOo: daniel, it would give them incentive to come and check out the e-shop or w/e

04:51:52 kakobrekla: anyway why give them your scam coin if you can give them a satoshi that is worth some seeds

04:52:05 kakobrekla: yeah meh

04:52:05 nOgAnOo: Like when people send me sample seeds and don't tell me what they are.. "COME TO WEBSITE TO FIND OUT WHAT THESE SAMPLE SEEDS ARE"

04:52:19 danielpbarron: it's a terrible idea that you will look back on with embarrassment

04:52:20 kakobrekla: customer loyality program + crypto

04:52:24 kakobrekla: like that topcoin garbage

04:52:28 nOgAnOo: Mystery Seed Coin

04:52:35 kakobrekla: do it if you like just dont talk about it here

04:52:50 BingoBoingo: Is it just me, or does Ice-T get whiter every fucking year, the fucking race traitor.

04:53:09 BingoBoingo: Black is Beautiful... When it comes to dat ass.

04:53:36 nOgAnOo: [22:52] <@kakobrekla> do it if you like just dont talk about it here << Peace guys

04:55:21 BingoBoingo: SO SVU tonight... nice primer of traps and honey traps.

04:55:36 kakobrekla: he left? came only to spam his thing ? :|

04:56:14 mod6: need some seeds brah?

04:56:36 kakobrekla: no, we smoke the bud here in somalia.

04:56:42 mod6: hah

04:59:41 BingoBoingo: Seriously, whole flower or No flower!!!

05:05:18 BingoBoingo: We all float on alright

05:08:40 BingoBoingo: Du hast

05:16:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00043462 = 8.9532 BTC [+]

05:17:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00043462 = 8.9532 BTC [+]

05:18:51 BingoBoingo: Oh Chicago PD tonight... Why do all of the feds have stainless steel lockers...

05:23:03 asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/meet-keysweeper-the-10-usb-charger-that-steals-ms-keyboard-strokes << microshit wireless kbd crypts with xor.

05:23:04 assbot: Meet KeySweeper, the $10 USB charger that steals MS keyboard strokes | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2UAHR )

05:23:55 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I assume that is every charger

05:24:20 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Your new router seems to be getting mad props nao.

05:24:24 asciilifeform: 'charger' was just the furniture used as mask.

05:27:12 asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/obama-wants-congress-to-increase-prison-sentences-for-hackers << further lulz

05:27:13 assbot: Obama wants Congress to increase prison sentences for hackers | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/155u4Ro )

05:27:39 BingoBoingo: Coffee pot works as well, yes. /. thread proposing new router as single oard computer for the wrong reasons, mad lulz

05:28:30 asciilifeform: link?

05:31:09 BingoBoingo: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/01/14/2028230/tiny-fanless-mini-pc-runs-linux-or-windows-on-quad-core-amd-soc

05:31:10 assbot: Tiny Fanless Mini-PC Runs Linux Or Windows On Quad-core AMD SoC - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/155uK9k )

05:31:15 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty

05:31:38 asciilifeform: that's an x86 box

05:31:42 BingoBoingo: Almost liek they want to poison the rep of the decent if not good

05:31:57 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You router is mentioned downthread

05:32:23 BingoBoingo: Endorsers endorse it for bad/wrong reasons

05:33:06 asciilifeform: not seeing it

05:33:22 asciilifeform: nm

05:33:50 BingoBoingo: "no karma" on mentioning posts

05:35:12 BingoBoingo: So...

05:35:44 asciilifeform: not that many vendors to choose from - if you want a fanless non-x86, non-arm box with >256M ram.

05:35:55 BingoBoingo: mentions appear... clackholed

05:36:01 BingoBoingo: *blackholed

05:39:09 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo actually ima write that up for qntra.

05:45:14 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Go for it.

05:46:18 BingoBoingo: My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty

05:51:52 BingoBoingo: !UP DreadKnight

05:59:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00043954 = 13.5598 BTC [+] {2}

05:59:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00043954 = 13.5598 BTC [+] {2}

06:33:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: add keyserver to the list of things la serenissima wants its own of, eh? << heh sure, eventually.

06:34:10 mircea_popescu: artifexd: <BingoBoingo> A gossipd-net of keyservers would be divine << I like it << kinda how it has to work anyway

06:34:59 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. I got that much from the convo. asciilifeform Was totally right about the thing living as streams of UDP piss

06:35:24 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: and now you found out that altcoin extremist are also bad ? << dude... you people are so hard to troll i swear. what sort of a cult are we running here out of this much internet savvy and genre savvy and whatnot! i think we're supposed to fall over backwards every time some random lolcow wanders in and says something nice.

06:38:00 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: microshit wireless kbd crypts with xor. << OTP ? :D

06:39:06 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: My venom sacks are still sore trendign towards empty << it finally dawned on me what cazalla wanted with domme chicks.

06:39:17 mircea_popescu: get a busted lip, bust out 50 qntra articles in a rage.

06:39:39 BingoBoingo: Seriously

06:41:10 BingoBoingo: I'm not so picky. Just B cups and a big fat butt... I'm good on that.

06:41:33 BingoBoingo: I bleed... She bleeds... that's just logistics

06:42:31 BingoBoingo: Seriously looks like Obummer is going to push the E-patriot act though which sucks

06:43:54 mircea_popescu: if a shit suddenly farts, is it shittier than before it farted ?

06:44:13 BingoBoingo: No, It is just a shart, an awkward compromise

06:50:04 BingoBoingo: #bitcoin-otc right nao: <BingoBoingo> Any thoughts or interest on order #21899

06:50:04 BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> Well, possible there's a niceguy stevepn out there that FF took the name of for his dirty deeds. If he's authed, it's FF fo sho :P

06:50:04 BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> ;;view 21899

06:50:04 BingoBoingo: <gribble> #21899 Wed Jan 14 21:58:43 2015 BingoBoingo BUY 40.0 PH/s mining farm and Typhoon class submarine chasis with loaded reactor @ 1 BTC (Serious Inqueries only)

06:50:04 BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> Why so cheap, BingoBoingo, is it a power hog?

06:50:06 BingoBoingo: <lewellyn> BingoBoingo: that's ONE buy? what a weird combo. :)

06:50:08 BingoBoingo: * Newyorkadam has quit (Quit: Newyorkadam)

06:50:10 BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> Dizzle: Not cheap. I price BTC at fair market value. None of this roulette on whether Bitstamp can deliver bullshit.

06:50:13 BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> lewellyn: Makes perfect sense. Naval reactors are reliable. Basically free electricity for 20 years

06:50:16 BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> Also for cooling, weld some fins on and... ocean

06:50:18 BingoBoingo: <Dizzle> ohh, you're buying, thought you were selling for a second. :D

06:50:20 BingoBoingo: * ctx` has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

06:50:22 BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> Nah, I want the boat and hardware to fill it.

06:50:24 BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> I'll buy higher than 1 BTC for what I want... But... I'm not gonna get Jew'd on this shit.

06:50:27 BingoBoingo: <lewellyn> BingoBoingo: can civilians GET a working reactor? :P

06:50:29 mircea_popescu: dude srsly...

06:50:29 BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> lewellyn: WHy not. I didn't personally sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

06:50:31 mircea_popescu: pastebin wtf.

06:50:33 BingoBoingo: * delll has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

06:50:35 BingoBoingo: <BingoBoingo> And I will be Damned if Obola tries to negate my second amendment rights with treaty agreements.

06:51:00 BingoBoingo: Eh, I know what I want to buy.

07:03:28 punkman: http://italiastartupvisa.mise.gov.it/ "The Italian Government policy to attract innovative entrepreneurs from all over the world"

07:03:29 assbot: Italia Startup Visa | main page ... ( http://bit.ly/1yeHHLo )

07:04:16 punkman: "a KPMG report recently stated that “Made in Italy” is the 3rd best known brand in the world."

07:04:27 mircea_popescu: ahaha

07:04:46 mircea_popescu: they probably just intend to pickpocket them.

07:04:57 punkman: big time

07:06:20 punkman: "certified incubator"

07:06:58 mircea_popescu: well, rome, capital of the rroma people.

07:07:07 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/ << mircea_popescu

07:07:07 assbot: Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9OTFV )

07:07:09 fluffypony: [09:06:09] <@Stalker> I FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT

07:07:10 fluffypony: [09:06:17] <@Stalker> Cosplay is modelling for the ugly girls

07:07:11 fluffypony: !bash 2

07:07:12 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/33HTVBM.txt )

07:07:17 mircea_popescu: ahaha

07:07:44 mircea_popescu: fluffypony they're more often fat than ugly, to put a... fine point on it.

07:07:49 fluffypony: lol

07:08:08 punkman: they hire professional models to cosplay in all the conventions these days

07:08:13 mircea_popescu: howrysheeit look at it! mom, i made the papers!

07:09:52 mircea_popescu: "Sometimes, rom and romani are spelled with a double r, i.e., rrom and rromani. In this case rr is used to represent the phoneme /ʀ/ (also written as ř and rh), which in some Romani dialects has remained different from the one written with a single r. " << actually, this is incorrect.

07:10:57 mircea_popescu: the source of the double r in writing is that right at the time gypsies decided to yet again rename in the early 90s, there was circulating on romanian TV a reading of a caragiale novel (romani verzi) mocking a very nutty sort of nationalism current in his time, that was being read in a particularrrrr manerrrr by a certain comedian.

07:11:17 mircea_popescu: this was immediately and universally applied to what was perceived as a silly and pompous notion of the minority in question.

07:25:03 BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski

07:25:15 pete_dushenski: grazi!

07:25:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00043462 = 10.257 BTC [-]

07:25:31 pete_dushenski: i come bearing blog: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/14/its-time-for-post-post-modernity-to-mature-or-perish/

07:25:33 assbot: It’s time for post-post-modernity to mature or perish. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1C9RVtO )

07:26:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00043462 = 10.257 BTC [-]

07:27:24 pete_dushenski: contravex: now sporting new quippy comment thingies on the sidebar!

07:27:37 BingoBoingo: !up qntranet

07:27:43 BingoBoingo: Hello qntranet

07:27:45 mircea_popescu: so mucxh voice.

07:27:48 BingoBoingo: How are you?

07:28:04 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski funny how scoopbot dies half hour before you come in lol

07:28:38 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu lol well scoopbot and i never really saw eye to eye

07:28:44 pete_dushenski: just ask peterl

07:29:10 pete_dushenski: the thing refused to recognise my extistence

07:29:16 mircea_popescu: mebbe it has a crash on oyu.

07:29:31 pete_dushenski: which is fine by me, i don't need no stinkin' bot taking my job!

07:29:42 BingoBoingo: O.o PeterL does scoopbot want to fuck other Pete???

07:30:02 pete_dushenski: it's all out war

07:30:21 pete_dushenski: :)

07:31:20 mircea_popescu: lol

07:32:55 fluffypony: "journalism" at its finest: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/cirrus-bitcoin-bucks

07:32:56 assbot: An Undercover Agent Was Making $1000 a Week in Bitcoin as a Silk Road Admin | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1C2Fzpt )

07:33:22 fluffypony: 'Dread Pirate Roberts, or DRP, used the username “dread,”'

07:33:30 fluffypony: because acronyms are hard

07:33:59 mircea_popescu: iirc saw that in teh logs.

07:34:23 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu for no other reason than that i've observed it, i have to say that your blogs have been kinder and gentler of late

07:34:24 mircea_popescu: apparently one admin was actually undercover agent, the official story now goes

07:34:40 BingoBoingo: That's been they story for well over a month nao

07:34:43 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the fact that i can't tell if you're straight or sarcastic is telling

07:34:50 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but not originally.

07:34:58 pete_dushenski: lol

07:35:03 pete_dushenski: so, so telling

07:35:16 mircea_popescu: so which was it ?

07:35:29 pete_dushenski: i'm being straight!

07:35:33 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well originally in law Defense lawyer could have said no legally observed evil, but... evil judge...

07:35:51 pete_dushenski: i can probably attribute a chunk of this to the acclimatisation process

07:35:59 pete_dushenski: my lungs have adapted to the air up here

07:36:49 pete_dushenski: the shock has worn off perhaps

07:37:48 pete_dushenski: just as the "oh noes how come the education system never taught us xyz and instead pulled the wool over our eyes" reaction is weakening

07:38:30 mircea_popescu: "The men who murdered Virginia's original twenty-six cemetery-occupants were never punished. Why? Because Alfred the Great, when he invented trial by jury and knew that he had admirably framed it to secure justice in his age of the world, was not aware that in the nineteenth century the condition of things would be so entirely changed that unless he rose from the grave and altered the jury plan to meet the emergency, i

07:38:31 mircea_popescu: t would prove the most ingenious and infallible agency for defeating justice that human wisdom could contrive. For how could he imagine that we simpletons would go on using his jury plan after circumstances had stripped it of its usefulness, any more than he could imagine that we would go on using his candle-clock after we had invented chronometers? In his day news could not travel fast, and hence he could easily find

07:38:31 mircea_popescu: a jury of honest, intelligent men who had not heard of the case they were called to try?but in our day of telegraphs and newspapers his plan compels us to swear in juries composed of fools and rascals, because the system rigidly excludes honest men and men of brains."

07:38:32 BingoBoingo: "Laws, not men" bas birthed more evil than any other construction

07:38:39 mircea_popescu: srsly, twain was complaining of it.

07:40:22 *: BingoBoingo still finds "failed" tagalog a potentially more fruitful endeavor than that Chicom pidgin

07:48:41 BingoBoingo: !up moldysnizz

07:49:31 moldysnizz: hey bingo!

07:50:23 moldysnizz: How's it been?

07:50:34 BingoBoingo: Not bad

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08:32:55 punkman: http://www.gofundme.com/2015/01/13/gofundme-tops-kickstarter-as-worlds-1-crowdfunding-platform/

08:32:56 assbot: GoFundMe Tops Kickstarter as World’s #1 Crowdfunding Platform ... ( http://bit.ly/1u8O0Jf )

09:01:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43692 @ 0.00042625 = 18.6237 BTC [+]

09:01:23 []bot: Bet placed: 4 BTC for Yes on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 31(Y):69(N) by coin, 31(Y):69(N) by weight. Total bet: 29.234 BTC. Current weight: 99,836.

09:01:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43692 @ 0.00042625 = 18.6237 BTC [+]

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10:02:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00057999 = 1.334 BTC [+] {3}

10:03:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00041483 = 9.3752 BTC [-]

10:03:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.00057999 = 1.334 BTC [+] {3}

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10:06:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5900 @ 0.00058605 = 3.4577 BTC [+] {6}

10:07:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10047 @ 0.0005968 = 5.996 BTC [+] {4}

10:08:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10023 @ 0.00059691 = 5.9828 BTC [+] {3}

10:20:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8980 @ 0.00041483 = 3.7252 BTC [-]

10:21:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65800 @ 0.00040988 = 26.9701 BTC [-] {3}

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10:27:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14430 @ 0.0004085 = 5.8947 BTC [-]

10:27:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63923 @ 0.00040781 = 26.0684 BTC [-] {3}

10:28:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68970 @ 0.0004061 = 28.0087 BTC [-] {3}

10:28:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19477 @ 0.00040227 = 7.835 BTC [-]

10:48:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63234 @ 0.00042192 = 26.6797 BTC [+] {2}

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10:57:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15066 @ 0.00042644 = 6.4247 BTC [+]

10:57:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15066 @ 0.00042644 = 6.4247 BTC [+]

10:58:35 []bot: Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "The Winkdex: BTC $5000 or more in 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1104/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 23(Y):77(N) by weight. Total bet: 39.234 BTC. Current weight: 99,811.

11:11:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37534 @ 0.00042072 = 15.7913 BTC [-] {2}

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12:07:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00043879 = 20.0088 BTC [+]

12:07:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45600 @ 0.00043879 = 20.0088 BTC [-]

12:10:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2049 @ 0.00058467 = 1.198 BTC [+] {8}

12:11:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3490 @ 0.00058356 = 2.0366 BTC [+] {9}

12:51:57 mats: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/obama-wants-congress-to-increase-prison-sentences-for-hackers/

12:51:58 assbot: Obama wants Congress to increase prison sentences for hackers | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymScZX )

13:13:20 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: yea it'll be on the editor's desk today sometime. no use fighting sleep debt, which has been paid in full.

13:18:38 BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW

13:21:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00040974 = 28.2721 BTC [-] {2}

13:21:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69000 @ 0.00040974 = 28.2721 BTC [-] {2}

13:25:36 BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2sagqu/since_bitcoin_has_lost_a_lot_of_value_since_the/cnnr6m9 << asciilifeform Buterin admits to waterfall

13:25:38 assbot: vbuterin comments on Since bitcoin has lost a lot of value since the crowdsale does this not affect the project in any way? ... ( http://bit.ly/1yfICLG )

13:25:43 BingoBoingo: !up viorels

13:33:24 davout: BingoBoingo: hah

13:38:10 mats: http://www.ams.org/notices/201502/rnoti-p165.pdf The Mathematics Community and the NSA

13:38:11 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/14DHJyp )

13:43:24 thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: kid has a lot to learn eh?

13:49:45 BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel

13:49:49 gabriel_laddel: ty

13:49:54 BingoBoingo: !up sinetek

13:49:57 BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW

13:54:45 gabriel_laddel: from The Mathematics Community and the NSA "Mathematician are leading the way to design and implement the algorithms that create this rising tide. Here we share many common interests with industry: e.g., big data analytics, cloud computing, machine learning and advanced search. So-called metadata (intelligence information that can be ascertained without examining the actual content of a communication) plays a big ro

13:54:45 gabriel_laddel: le here, as our governing rules generally do not permit deep inspection when the apertuse into our data set widens. Getting this right is paramount: the average NSA mathematician takes fourteen courses each yer to be up-to-date on the procedures that govern these activities."

13:55:17 gabriel_laddel: Because that is how you go about attracting the best mathematicians, big data and boring classes to keep up to date on the law.

13:55:43 davout: lol

13:56:08 gabriel_laddel: note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14.

13:56:34 gabriel_laddel: I've got to wonder if they draw straws and a few poor bastards get stuck taking all the classes.

13:57:17 Apocalyptic: mats, thanks for the link

13:59:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041109 = 11.3461 BTC [+] {2}

13:59:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.00041109 = 11.3461 BTC [+] {2}

14:02:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00042209 = 10.8899 BTC [+]

14:02:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00042209 = 10.8899 BTC [+]

14:03:30 gabriel_laddel: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/KeystoneKops.jpg

14:03:34 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCfHPk )

14:14:29 punkman: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/01/13/iceland-brewery-whale-testicle-beer/21714213/

14:25:10 BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel

14:26:54 gabriel_laddel: I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd?

14:29:10 BingoBoingo: Seems to be the case

14:30:09 gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: It seems to be the case that we're waiting?

14:30:20 BingoBoingo: I didn't say that.

14:30:43 gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: Well I'm not sure how else to read that.

14:31:20 BingoBoingo: Well, there's the other clause in your question.

14:32:02 davout: wasn't kakobrekla working on sthg?

14:32:09 gabriel_laddel: well yes, but you're response doesn't clarify.

14:32:15 gabriel_laddel: *your

14:33:42 davout: i would clarify if i had clarity :)

14:33:52 BingoBoingo: !b 2

14:33:52 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0VWDJWZ.txt )

14:34:16 BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Because I lack clarity too. But a something seems to be happening.

15:03:30 kakobrekla: yeah its almost complete.

15:06:14 jurov: eta 2 weeks

15:10:13 BingoBoingo: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/some-gripes-about-nacl

15:10:14 assbot: some gripes about nacl ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCvRbi )

15:10:42 davout: jurov: you forgot the (tm)

15:11:07 davout: kakobrekla: the question now is *what* is almost complete :D

15:13:01 kakobrekla: asswot

15:15:08 BingoBoingo: !b 2

15:15:09 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/362X0B9.txt )

15:15:54 BingoBoingo: !s bitcoin

15:15:55 assbot: 23025 results for 'bitcoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoin

15:15:58 BingoBoingo: !s ass

15:15:59 assbot: 1135 results for 'ass' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ass

15:16:14 BingoBoingo: Huh, I thought that might be flipped

15:16:34 TomServo: Can you share any details?

15:16:38 BingoBoingo: !s ass*

15:16:39 assbot: 280758 results for 'ass*' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ass%2A

15:16:46 BingoBoingo: Ah, much better

15:35:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.11329998 = 1.133 BTC [+] {3}

15:35:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.11329998 = 1.133 BTC [+] {3}

15:38:13 mircea_popescu: http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/179517/amia-prosecutor-accuses-cfk-timerman-of-covering-up-iran << argentina heating up.

15:38:15 assbot: AMIA prosecutor accuses CFK, Timerman of 'covering up' Iran's involvement in bombing - BuenosAiresHerald.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCD8bk )

15:50:27 thestringpuller: you get my reply mircea_popescu :P

15:50:34 mircea_popescu: mno

15:50:35 thestringpuller: via da logz

15:50:40 mircea_popescu: didnt look yet

15:51:20 thestringpuller: ah.

15:54:24 mircea_popescu: mats >> it's on qntra even.

15:55:35 mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: note however, the /average/ number of classes a year is 14. << i expect it's just a shortcut to pay them better.

15:55:58 mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: I may have missed it in the logs, but is someone explicitly working on an assbot with gribble functionality or are we going to wait for wotnet / gossipd? << kakobrekla has been, for a while now

15:57:32 mircea_popescu: davout: kakobrekla: the question now is *what* is almost complete :D << wot capabilit yintegration into assbot!

15:57:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48381 @ 0.00043355 = 20.9756 BTC [+] {2}

15:57:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48381 @ 0.00043355 = 20.9756 BTC [+] {2}

15:58:33 davout: mircea_popescu: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/54/5467b21bf2e9a7c44519e2728bb5aa86798e3b769ffa1545b6a1173897757ef9.jpg

15:58:34 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCHUFI )

16:00:37 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller ic!

16:00:49 mircea_popescu: news waits for no man, mr.

16:02:14 mircea_popescu: lol

16:02:20 mircea_popescu: @ ethereum reddit.

16:03:05 mats: http://www.wired.com/2014/12/finney-swat

16:03:08 assbot: An Extortionist Has Been Making Life Hell for Bitcoin's Earliest Adopters | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCIS4M )

16:03:24 mircea_popescu: lolwut ?! finney was dead wasn't he ?!

16:04:25 davout: mircea_popescu: that was before he died

16:04:30 mircea_popescu: wow. i thought i had read eulogies and everything

16:04:31 mircea_popescu: oh

16:04:41 mircea_popescu: ty for that made my head spin for a minute

16:05:19 mircea_popescu: "Roger Ver, another early bitcoin adopter, believes he was victimized by the same person the week before the Finney family was swatted. That?s when someone using the names Nitrous and Savaged hacked into Ver?s email accounts and demanded that he cough up 37 bitcoins"

16:05:39 mircea_popescu: lmao roger ver is such an exercise in tramp

16:06:25 davout: mircea_popescu: x.eur pl0x

16:06:32 mircea_popescu: aye.

16:08:30 []bot: Bet created: "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/

16:10:25 mats: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/01/15/uk-swiss-snb-cap-idUKKBN0KO0XV20150115

16:10:27 assbot: Swiss central bank shocks markets with currency 'tsunami' | Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCKYla )

16:10:45 []bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Gold to drop under $900 before April 2015 " http://bitbet.us/bet/1105/ Odds: 0(Y):100(N) by coin, 0(Y):100(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,998.

16:12:18 mats: i wonder how they plan to manage domestic deflation

16:12:56 mircea_popescu: by not caring.

16:13:02 mircea_popescu: if you mean the swiss

16:13:27 davout: mats: in what way would it be a problem? exports?

16:14:35 mats: for the swiss, inflation is 0%, some interbank rates are negative, oil is falling, and this move will probably drop imports 10%+

16:15:24 mircea_popescu: they're too well integrated with euro to actually care.

16:19:41 danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/twobitidiot/status/555693914112663552

16:19:42 assbot: I know, I know, /hashtag/firstworldproblems?src=hash, but flying coach just blows. Thanks /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash. (Then again, Miami awaits!)

16:20:42 mats: lol

16:20:46 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/transaction-fees-and-the-future-of-bitcoin/

16:20:47 assbot: Transaction Fees and the Future of Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCNPuq )

16:22:12 BingoBoingo: hanbot chetty Your qntra comments are up http://qntra.net/2015/01/pierre-omidyar-also-started-a-qntra-back-in-october-his-failed/#comment-7332

16:22:12 assbot: Pierre Omidyar also started a Qntra back in October. His failed. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCO9JL )

16:25:39 TomServo: Does scoopbot need to be replaced? It seems to often be MIA.

16:36:40 mircea_popescu: davout shoulkd be there.

16:36:47 davout: tyvm

16:36:59 mircea_popescu: TomServo well ideally it'd have to be fixed,

16:37:07 mircea_popescu: but if that doesn't woirk i guess it'll have to be replaced.

16:37:29 mircea_popescu: ivreally wish people were a LOT more open with the problems they have. if there's one time to be all over this place, it's then.

16:37:59 mircea_popescu: the alternative of "it dun work and i'm mia" pretty much the worst possible approach.

16:38:06 TomServo: Oh - I thought it was working (aside from contravex), but just having trouble staying online.

16:38:20 mircea_popescu: i dunno anymore than you do on the topic.

16:38:23 mircea_popescu: just what i see in logs.

16:38:25 TomServo: If it just needs a more stable home I can probably help.

16:38:56 mircea_popescu: yeah but we dunno what it needs or what's going on, and so can't help.

16:39:01 TomServo: I forgot who ran it, but reach out if I can lend a hand!

16:39:14 mircea_popescu: i will next i see 'em.

16:41:49 BingoBoingo: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/15/danes_mull_session_logging_law_despite_eu_data_retention_ban/

16:41:50 assbot: Denmark mulls new EU-defying session-logging law • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1sCTIb2 )

16:42:29 davout: TomServo: peterl runs it iirc

16:42:35 BingoBoingo: Now the Danish Parliament looks set to reintroduce the obligation, despite an evaluation of its effectiveness showing only one case out of around 24 trillion registrations where it had actually helped police

16:42:45 BingoBoingo: ^ lulzy shit

16:42:59 mircea_popescu: lol

16:44:13 mircea_popescu: this pretense that shit like "denmark" even have the power to legislate.

16:44:35 mircea_popescu: gtfo, you're a municipal council. stick to peeling chewinggum off the sidewalk and debating what uniform to put the parking meter chicks in.

16:45:20 BingoBoingo: Silicon Valley http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/01/four-on-five-nba-basketball.html

16:45:22 assbot: The NBA’s Golden Age of Innovation Is Coming -- NYMag ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICxmui )

16:45:53 mircea_popescu: bwahaha

16:46:18 mircea_popescu: you know, the ironic bit here is that... ceausescu called his epic fail "epoca de aur". teh golden age of ballooning.

16:46:46 mircea_popescu: SNB Chairman Thomas Jordan denied at a news conference that the move amounted to a "panic reaction", saying the cap had been scrapped because it was unsustainable. "If you decide to exit such a policy, you have to take the markets by surprise," Jordan said. << quite.

16:46:54 mircea_popescu: one can't maintain arbitrary caps like that.

16:46:55 TomServo: davout: Thanks, I'll drop a line.

16:47:02 mircea_popescu: one shouldn't even try, but hey.

16:47:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 151 @ 0.00689999 = 1.0419 BTC [+] {2}

16:47:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 172 @ 0.00689999 = 1.1868 BTC [+] {3}

16:48:29 mircea_popescu: ""I've never seen such a drop in one go, it's huge. People will probably be buying euros, but also dollars and other currencies," said one UBS teller, after selling euros to a Russian client."

16:48:41 mircea_popescu: orly ? people are goinmg to BUY dollars because they're worthless ?

16:48:53 mircea_popescu: and are going to SELL stuff like RUB ? what "people" are these people ?

16:49:39 mircea_popescu: "Fitch's managing director of sovereign ratings Ed Parker said the move would not affect Switzerland's top-grade rating." ahahahaha jesus fucking christ.

16:49:59 mircea_popescu: tell me if it's going to affect the us's top rating, derps.

16:52:08 BingoBoingo: Three https://i.imgur.com/qvcVB6p.jpg

16:52:09 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ICzCBH )

16:57:30 BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski

16:57:35 BingoBoingo: !up AaronvanW

16:58:06 davout: BingoBoingo: the third's face is creepy

16:58:11 pete_dushenski: guten morgen!

16:58:56 davout: ohai

16:58:56 BingoBoingo: davout: Deer probably find your "I'm fucking" face creepy too

17:00:18 davout: i never really had the occasion to make a butseks-a-guy-who-sekses-up-some-chick face so i guess that's an unknown for now

17:01:31 BingoBoingo: Well...

17:06:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51704 @ 0.00044013 = 22.7565 BTC [+] {2}

17:07:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51704 @ 0.00044013 = 22.7565 BTC [+] {2}

17:21:30 BingoBoingo: !up bigtip

17:21:34 BingoBoingo: !up viorels

17:23:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.11772061 = 5.2974 BTC [+] {10}

17:23:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 45 @ 0.11772061 = 5.2974 BTC [+] {10}

17:28:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2419 @ 0.00065799 = 1.5917 BTC [-]

17:28:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2419 @ 0.00065799 = 1.5917 BTC [-]

17:29:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4887 @ 0.00065799 = 3.2156 BTC [-] {2}

17:29:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4887 @ 0.00065799 = 3.2156 BTC [-] {2}

17:32:24 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2010/un-mic-exercitiu/ << so if anyone feels like delving into romanian, this is me doing journalism school in 2010. comments moar valuable htan article as per usual.

17:32:25 assbot: Un mic exercitiu. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1xtmeas )

17:37:50 davout: mircea_popescu: at first i was like 'Be that as it may'

17:38:01 davout: but then 'Be that as it may, consider ca am cam obtinut ce am dorit prin comentariile(adevarat, exasperant de incalcite) prin care autorul completeaza sau clarifica unele sectiuni mai gri.'

17:41:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4542 @ 0.00065799 = 2.9886 BTC [-] {3}

17:41:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4542 @ 0.00065799 = 2.9886 BTC [-] {3}

17:42:49 mats: i have recently discovered grocery delivery

17:44:11 mats: it is amazeeng

17:54:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60900 @ 0.00043472 = 26.4744 BTC [-]

17:55:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60900 @ 0.00043472 = 26.4744 BTC [-]

17:56:34 *: mats preps a pound of walnuts for roasting with honey and cinnamon

18:05:21 mircea_popescu: davout it's right.

18:05:50 mats: ;;ticker --market all

18:06:03 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 218.23, vol: 91288.38996660 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 212.0, vol: 54412.72426 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 218.05, vol: 209279.78459044 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 219.71, vol: 41.24919397 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 211.4035, vol: 354868.10020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 210.22177, vol: 158.71142587 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 222.738329988, vol: 180.853045 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

18:14:44 ben_vulpes: buenas terroristas

18:15:10 mircea_popescu: "An individual who owned twenty feet in the Ophir mine before its great riches were revealed to men, traded it for a horse, and a very sorry looking brute he was, too. A year or so afterward, when Ophir stock went up to $3,000 a foot, this man, who had not a cent, used to say he was the most startling example of magnificence and misery the world had ever seen?because he was able to ride a sixty-thousand-dollar horse

18:15:10 mircea_popescu: ?yet could not scrape up cash enough to buy a saddle, and was obliged to borrow one or ride bareback. He said if fortune were to give him another sixty-thousand-dollar horse it would ruin him."

18:15:26 mircea_popescu: check it out! kako's golf used to be a horse.

18:15:42 ben_vulpes: riding bareback's not *so* bad...

18:15:48 *: ben_vulpes never did it for more than a few hours tho

18:15:59 ben_vulpes: and i did have a blanket thinger

18:16:00 mircea_popescu: it's not feasible long term.

18:16:17 mircea_popescu: run both you and the horse bloody.

18:16:40 ben_vulpes: not good capital equipment maintenance.

18:16:43 ben_vulpes: man i want some horses!

18:16:54 ben_vulpes: that's capital equipment that makes more capital equipment.

18:17:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 240 @ 0.00522541 = 1.2541 BTC [-] {7}

18:17:10 mircea_popescu: talk to davout iirc he was looking to start a farm.

18:17:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 240 @ 0.00522541 = 1.2541 BTC [-] {7}

18:17:29 ben_vulpes: davout: doing it in france

18:18:01 ben_vulpes: in other news, i have to put up a notice to my employees that my company bears unemployment insurance. this is all standard practice, but it irks me that the responsibility for educating people about their rights falls to me.

18:18:10 ben_vulpes: it's this sneaky tax, basically.

18:18:25 ben_vulpes: "we're going to pass a law, and then make the people who actually get shit done teach the proles about it."

18:18:40 mircea_popescu: i have no idea what you imagine the point of a company is if not educate its workers.

18:18:49 ben_vulpes: er, worker's compensation. not unemployment.

18:19:00 ben_vulpes: we educate plenty!

18:19:28 ben_vulpes: but being told to educate on a thing of such triviality and irrelevance to the business is loathsome.

18:19:42 ben_vulpes: i must hang a poster.

18:19:45 mthreat: i think i've seen those in the bathroom

18:19:48 ben_vulpes: a vile red and blue poster.

18:20:04 mircea_popescu: so you're really after the political statement that it is a business owner's own right and privilege to educate whatever he sees fit, and the intermeddling of some "state" is at best unwelcome ?

18:20:06 mircea_popescu: sure.

18:20:22 mircea_popescu: how goes mthreat ?

18:20:30 mthreat: not bad

18:20:32 ben_vulpes: i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster.

18:20:37 mircea_popescu: saw teh flood ?

18:21:00 mthreat: not sure, in BsAs?

18:21:12 mircea_popescu: yeah, libertador was under a foot of water coupla days ago

18:21:18 mircea_popescu: suddenly the car was afloat lol.

18:21:18 mthreat: oh.. no I hadn't

18:21:33 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i must even make "reasonable precautions" against defacement of the poster. << sign under it that says "Do not deface poster" should both result in defaced posted while still counting as a reasonable precaution

18:21:40 mthreat: ya.. i've seen minor versions of that. drainage FTW

18:21:51 mircea_popescu: it can really pour here.

18:22:39 mthreat: flash floods are fairly common in central texas too

18:22:54 mthreat: people always trying to drive through it and drowning

18:24:09 mircea_popescu: lol. "o, there's a problem ? let's ignore it maybe it goes away".

18:24:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69600 @ 0.00043275 = 30.1194 BTC [-] {2}

18:24:14 mircea_popescu: college was not for naught!

18:24:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69600 @ 0.00043275 = 30.1194 BTC [-] {2}

18:51:04 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.05 BTC. Current weight: 14,021.

18:51:06 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to top 360$ before Feb" http://bitbet.us/bet/1102/ Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.1 BTC. Current weight: 85,870.

18:57:43 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] mebbe it has a crash on oyu. << ouch.

19:03:15 ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski

19:03:25 ben_vulpes: what's up with your keytuation?

19:03:26 pete_dushenski: ty ben!

19:03:44 pete_dushenski: uh nothing much

19:03:50 pete_dushenski: just waiting for assbot

19:04:13 pete_dushenski: that'll show those holiday-takers!

19:05:05 pete_dushenski: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/01/15/target-to-exit-canada/ << and gooood riddance!

19:05:06 assbot: Target To Exit Canada « CBS Minnesota ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2Lm2p )

19:06:57 pete_dushenski: there's no room in this town for a retailer that hangs its hat on faux francais pronunciation of its name

19:07:25 pete_dushenski: you don't see simon's pulling the nasal "n" card

19:13:26 pete_dushenski: anyone read bruce bueno de mesquita ?

19:13:57 pete_dushenski: he was recommended by a commenter on contravex and his writings looks to be pretty on point

19:14:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.1198888 = 1.079 BTC [-] {2}

19:14:15 pete_dushenski: *look

19:14:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 333 @ 0.12927546 = 43.0487 BTC [+] {13}

19:15:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 324 @ 0.1295362 = 41.9697 BTC [+] {11}

19:15:56 pete_dushenski: Some $12 trillion in new money has been created since the global financial crisis by the major central banks in a broad attempt to bolster hobbled banking systems, ease debt service and revive a damaged global economy. << deflation, surely, is right around the corner

19:16:35 mircea_popescu: terrorist redpiller pedophile racist

19:18:31 pete_dushenski: sounds aboot right

19:18:58 mircea_popescu: are you threatening me ?!?!

19:19:01 *: pete_dushenski goes to order some future contraband

19:19:45 pete_dushenski: me? never!

19:20:03 mircea_popescu: i need progress for my bunghole

19:21:48 pete_dushenski: ya, it's smearing everywhere

19:21:53 pete_dushenski: quite the mess you've made

19:22:53 mircea_popescu: lol

19:23:00 asciilifeform: http://www.ams.org/notices/201502/rnoti-p165.pdf << required reading for all shitgnomologists. 'we're not sorry, but we're sorry we got caught.'

19:23:02 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/14DHJyp )

19:24:16 pete_dushenski: A man who portrayed himself as a member of a wealthy Pakistani family and was often seen driving luxury cars including a Ferrari faces sentencing in a multimillion-dollar investment scam involving three former Miami Heat players and the team itself. << as if the donald sterling shmozzle wasn't embarrassing enough for the nba

19:24:29 pete_dushenski: it's the the major pro sports in the us are trying to out-retard each other

19:24:56 pete_dushenski: "no our players and fans our stupider!"

19:25:22 mircea_popescu: lmao

19:25:26 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo writing up this one ?

19:25:51 asciilifeform: https://threatpost.com/new-strain-of-crowti-ransomware-moving-in-i2p-network/110416 << even crapware artists moving off tor

19:25:52 assbot: Crowti Cryptowall 3.0 Ransomware Moving in I2P Network | Threatpost | The first stop for security news ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6yEpQ )

19:26:33 mircea_popescu: lol

19:26:45 pete_dushenski: Zafar convinced Miller to give him $2.6 million, Lewis to give him $4 million and Jones to give him $1.5 million, all for an investment opportunity that Zafar said would "quickly obtain a significant return." But rather than reimburse the Miami Heat or three individuals, Zafar used the money "for his personal use and benefit,"

19:27:21 pete_dushenski: Zafar's attorney has said his client pleaded guilty to accept responsibility and move forward with his life. << he'd better. it also ties into this week's pleabargain convo

19:27:34 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sentencing-scheduled-multimillion-dollar-miami-heat-fraud-061059671--finance.html

19:27:37 assbot: Sentencing scheduled in multimillion-dollar Miami Heat fraud - Yahoo Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1x6z6EJ )

19:27:37 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:37:48 ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski

19:38:06 pete_dushenski: merci!

19:38:46 ben_vulpes: de rien

19:43:37 pete_dushenski: through the first 11 months of 2014, Prius sales were down nearly 16% compared with the prior year.

19:43:43 pete_dushenski: but global warming!

19:43:57 pete_dushenski: "What happened? The short answer is: cheap gas prices."

19:44:07 pete_dushenski: "with $2 gas being commonplace, the Prius is only viewed as a smart financial choice by drivers “who stink at math.”"

19:44:41 pete_dushenski: " among other reasons, its fuel efficiency advantage over the competition has shrunk substantially, and Tesla has emerged as the green car of choice that’s not only environmentally friendly, but stylish and a rip-roaring hoot to drive as well."

19:44:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]

19:44:52 pete_dushenski: "The cachet of the Prius has dissipated in the years since because,"

19:45:02 pete_dushenski: damn that shit's too funny

19:45:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [-]

19:45:52 pete_dushenski: funny how clarkson called the prius out for being a poser's turd back in 07 or whatever

19:47:02 pete_dushenski: and pointed out that the battery required rare earths from all over creation and was therefore, cradle to cradle, less enviromentally conscientious

19:47:39 pete_dushenski: and now, go figure that clarkson is all wooed by the i8

19:50:01 thestringpuller: oh lookie lookie a pete_dushenski

19:50:16 pete_dushenski: heya

19:50:31 thestringpuller: having fun at degrassi jr. high?

19:50:31 thestringpuller: jkjk

19:50:54 thestringpuller: !up bigtip

19:51:41 danielpbarron: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30828694

19:51:43 assbot: BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug

19:51:45 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller me and drizzy ;)

19:53:43 thestringpuller: oh yea canadians do have drake

19:53:50 thestringpuller: i say he makes up for justin bieber

19:54:01 thestringpuller: so this chick was down here in the studio my friend interned at

19:54:25 thestringpuller: some 15 year old chick polow da don was trying to pimp (of throw's some d's on it fame)

19:54:41 thestringpuller: anyhow she was at one of Drake's parties and Bieber was there

19:54:53 thestringpuller: and Drake really doesn't like Bieber, but somehow kid shows up anywas

19:55:10 thestringpuller: So Drake starts rolling a blunt and won't pass it to Bieber

19:55:16 thestringpuller: and Bieber has a straight up temper trantrum

19:55:20 pete_dushenski: lol

19:55:31 pete_dushenski: men only

19:55:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1921 @ 0.00063728 = 1.2242 BTC [-] {5}

19:56:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1921 @ 0.00063728 = 1.2242 BTC [-] {5}

19:56:18 pete_dushenski: ^amhash1 getting pretty close to 50% of ipo value.

19:56:23 pete_dushenski: has it been 6 months already?

19:57:13 thestringpuller: should be a metric of how quick Mining bonds depreciate in value

19:57:22 thestringpuller: or maybe there just shouldn't be mining bonds at all ~_~

19:57:40 pete_dushenski: so it looks like sony doesn't want to be the hardware company that goes down in horrible flames racing to the bottom

19:57:47 pete_dushenski: they're releasing a $1200 walkman!

19:58:01 pete_dushenski: 150mb songs

19:58:19 pete_dushenski: for supah megah qualité

19:58:34 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller there is a metric, see fraudsters

19:58:42 pete_dushenski: 50% in 6 months

19:58:44 pete_dushenski: :)

19:58:46 thestringpuller: XD

19:58:50 thestringpuller: which fraudsters

19:58:58 thestringpuller: as fraudsters is a library with no dewey decimal

19:59:02 pete_dushenski: mighta been pmb's

19:59:15 pete_dushenski: (perpetual mining bonds)

20:00:30 thestringpuller: that 1200 dollar walkman just looks like a glorified flac player

20:00:51 thestringpuller: wut 4. audiophiles rip vinyl to walkman?

20:01:57 pete_dushenski: mebbe

20:02:24 pete_dushenski: i mostly just like that it's at least trying to be premium

20:02:37 pete_dushenski: and not just in an lv gucci prada way

20:03:00 pete_dushenski: and why not rip vinyl to walkman?

20:03:12 pete_dushenski: not like you have a vinyl player in your camry

20:03:22 pete_dushenski: or at the coffee shop

20:03:29 pete_dushenski: or out on a walk

20:09:49 thestringpuller: lol

20:12:53 kakobrekla: in case you missed it

20:12:53 kakobrekla: https://charts.mql5.com/6/733/usdchf-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png

20:12:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1C5igLB )

20:51:58 cazalla: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/555821164661321728 pretty lulzy if true

20:52:02 assbot: Defense's alternative theory seems to be that MARK KARPELES OF MT GOX and one other were the real DPR. /hashtag/SilkRoadTrial?src=hash

20:52:43 fluffypony: lol

20:52:55 fluffypony: Karpeles getting blamed for errthing

20:53:38 bitstein: https://twitter.com/a_greenberg/status/555827037488037889

20:53:39 assbot: To be clear, everyone, defense has NOT made the argument Mark Karpeles was DPR, instead got a DHS agent to admit he was a suspect

20:55:16 TomServo: wat, nowai

20:57:13 ben_vulpes: <mats> [] i have recently discovered grocery delivery << i like it too, except i just have lady v do it

20:58:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3075 @ 0.00063401 = 1.9496 BTC [-]

20:59:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3075 @ 0.00063401 = 1.9496 BTC [-]

20:59:23 thestringpuller: stop being a sexist ben_vulpes

21:01:45 ben_vulpes: baby girl's on payroll

21:01:54 ben_vulpes: chef, grocery shopper, dog walker

21:02:00 mats: you're cool

21:02:09 ben_vulpes: i ain't sexist

21:02:13 ben_vulpes: i'm an employah

21:02:43 kakobrekla: me too

21:02:48 kakobrekla: even got her a no-show job.

21:03:08 thestringpuller: what is a no show job?

21:03:29 mats: being on payroll without working

21:03:48 thestringpuller: so communism?

21:03:50 ben_vulpes: well it's my personal payroll as opposed to the company payroll, assholes

21:04:10 thestringpuller: so ben_vulpes lets his wife indulge in socialism?

21:04:22 ben_vulpes: but as soon as i figure out the non profit hustle in the states i'm going to get myself a lobbying job

21:04:29 mats: wat

21:05:11 ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: more like, i indulge in capitalism

21:05:16 mats: how much does a gigolo cost these days?

21:05:18 ben_vulpes: this involves buying what i want.

21:06:18 asciilifeform: lol, we all keep pets ?

21:07:49 ben_vulpes: husbandry, right up there in the list of ancient professions.

21:10:35 ben_vulpes: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/2sagqu/since_bitcoin_has_lost_a_lot_of_value_since_the/cnpxp80 << dafuq is CHF

21:10:38 assbot: vbuterin comments on Since bitcoin has lost a lot of value since the crowdsale does this not affect the project in any way? ... ( http://bit.ly/17Ms6ad )

21:12:27 kakobrekla: ben_vulpes swiss franc

21:12:39 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2015#978561

21:12:39 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2015 20:12:53; kakobrekla: https://charts.mql5.com/6/733/usdchf-h1-worth-ltd-venetfx.png

21:13:55 davout: good evening!

21:14:09 kakobrekla: ^^ re chf, a few folks committed suicide today cause of it.

21:14:17 kakobrekla: and a few banks will close in the following months.

21:14:23 kakobrekla: they will try to hide it first.

21:14:46 kakobrekla: also some fx brokerages closed.

21:15:20 kakobrekla: like a nuke fell.

21:15:36 mircea_popescu: <assbot> BBC News - 'In dog we trust' misprint on US sheriff's office rug << aww that';s so cute

21:15:51 davout: kakobrekla: dat swan. such black.

21:16:12 kakobrekla: hehe

21:16:37 mircea_popescu: but is it driving adoption ?

21:17:14 davout: there was antonopoulos' ama on the driving adoption side

21:17:17 davout: :D

21:17:18 kakobrekla: well, there will be more orphans so i perhaps more adoptions

21:17:21 mircea_popescu: "our plan to drive adoption is twofold : first, make a lot of people off themselves. their thus orphaned offspring, will, necessarily, be adopted. we will endeavour to drive as many as possible, but some might have to walk."

21:17:32 davout: first question: "waddaya think about block size"

21:17:32 kakobrekla: -i

21:17:58 mircea_popescu: davout this because clearly the fork won't fail, but contrairiwise

21:18:27 davout: he said things should be fixed when they actually become a problem

21:18:45 mircea_popescu: not bad for a dead man.

21:18:48 davout: aka "next question please"

21:19:26 mircea_popescu: so what, o'reilly smelled the gunpowder and is splitting from the scam foundation ? or are they actually yielding in corpore but still trying to protect gavin's head from my platter ?

21:21:09 mircea_popescu: cazalla: pretty lulzy if true << not as much a matter of true as a matter of holy shit, that trial will be a coin toss. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2015#976369 still curtious on that point.

21:21:09 assbot: Logged on 14-01-2015 00:16:10; mircea_popescu: i wonder if all the bumbling to date was simply baiting "the people" into expensive failure.

21:21:37 davout: meanwhile, bitcoin foundation's executive director on twitter... https://twitter.com/virtuallylaw/status/555829864075243521

21:21:39 assbot: /petertoddbtc got it. I'd take it with many grains of salt. That would be nuts...

21:21:57 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: chef, grocery shopper, dog walker <<< burlesque dancer, escort ?

21:27:07 ben_vulpes: does escort me around myeah :D

21:35:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19841 @ 0.00042713 = 8.4747 BTC [-] {2}

21:35:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19841 @ 0.00042713 = 8.4747 BTC [-] {2}

21:43:30 ben_vulpes: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/01/the-failure-of-a-past-basic-income-guarantee-the-speenhamland-system.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NakedCapitalism+%28naked+capitalism%29 << i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not

21:43:33 assbot: The Failure of a Past Basic Income Guarantee, the Speenhamland System | naked capitalism ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE1wNB )

21:46:10 ben_vulpes: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/14/bitcoin-is-revealed-a-ponzi-scheme-for-redistributing-wealth-from-one-libertarian-to-another/ << derpy but sorta interesting points in the third to last pp

21:46:11 assbot: Bitcoin revealed: a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth from one libertarian to another - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2b1u )

21:46:37 davout: http://fr.anco.is/2015/01/15/x-eur-january-15th-2015-statement/

21:46:38 assbot: X.EUR January 15th 2015 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE2dql )

21:47:40 davout: so far the best investment in january: +64%

21:47:45 asciilifeform: ^ again repeats the 'no inherent value' crock of shit

21:48:49 kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy.

21:49:42 kakobrekla: no article about that eh.

21:55:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00042338 = 18.8616 BTC [-]

21:56:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00042338 = 18.8616 BTC [-]

21:58:29 asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/nsa-employee-will-continue-to-co-chair-influential-crypto-standards-group << mega-lol

21:58:30 assbot: NSA employee will continue to co-chair influential crypto standards group | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE5DcG )

22:07:15 kakobrekla: o looks like ukto/ukyo is in jail

22:07:29 kakobrekla: twist: not for bitcoin fraud.

22:09:20 kakobrekla: some wtf here: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150113/long-island-city/bitcoin-trader-accused-of-murder-was-tied-up-coerced-sell-stocks-da

22:09:22 assbot: Bitcoin Trader Accused of Murder Says He Was Tied Up, Forced to Sell Stocks - Astoria - DNAinfo.com New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE8rGJ )

22:14:30 jurov: ^ that's about ukyo?

22:15:03 kakobrekla: afaik not

22:15:11 thestringpuller: where is the utko news then?

22:15:13 thestringpuller: ~_~

22:15:36 joecool: ;;gpg info ukyo

22:15:36 gribble: No such user registered.

22:15:45 thestringpuller: ;;gpg info utko

22:15:46 gribble: No such user registered.

22:15:49 thestringpuller: ;;gpg info ukto

22:15:49 gribble: User 'ukto', with keyid 61D2F81E4BFEEF11, fingerprint 004467FBE2285A57978AA34A61D2F81E4BFEEF11, and bitcoin address None, registered on Tue Jun 14 22:19:01 2011, last authed on Sun Sep 4 11:57:45 2011. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=ukto . Currently not authenticated.

22:23:50 kakobrekla: re ukto news is from tardstalk https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.msg9845674#msg9845674

22:23:51 assbot: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEbYEK )

22:24:01 kakobrekla: a month old.

22:35:22 kakobrekla: anyway bbl.

22:50:13 jurov: "After taking the rate into negative territory last month for the first time since the 1970s, it cut another 0.5 percentage points on Thursday to -0.75 percent"

22:50:28 jurov: "it cut"

23:27:23 ben_vulpes: first

23:27:27 thestringpuller: :P

23:27:44 thestringpuller: second

23:42:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49853 @ 0.0004248 = 21.1776 BTC [+]

23:42:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49853 @ 0.0004248 = 21.1776 BTC [+]

23:43:02 mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/OEC7s6Y.jpg << check out "the man responsible" lolz

23:43:03 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1E5FnFs )

23:46:32 mircea_popescu: lol gotta love the forum derps. "o hai we're here in the swamp isolated from the goings on in bitcoin. how come we have nfi what's going on ???"

23:46:35 mircea_popescu: uh i dunno...

23:52:15 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i fail to see how a guaranteed payment would be inflationary but a guaranteed job not << depends on the definition of guaranteed job. guaranteed payments are always inflationary - that's the very definition of inflation : payment without a counterprestation. jobs however can be guaranteed in such a way that prestation is at the same time guaranteed, at least theoretically.

23:52:38 mircea_popescu: consider my alt economy where the currency is teeth. every person can be guaranteed a job as selftooth extractor, paying 30 teeth over their lifetime.

23:52:56 mircea_popescu: now, irl the cow's not spherical nor does it live in a vacuum, but hey.

23:54:11 mircea_popescu: washington post article is especially niggardly, which is what one'd expect from the vanguard of us socialism. "o noes, if you look at just this portion of the graph, bitcoin has been falling".

23:54:25 mircea_popescu: guess what, by the same measure apple, ibm, the us fed and washington post stock are all ponzi schemes.

23:56:11 mircea_popescu: http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=GHC+Interactive#symbol=GHC;range=1y look at that, from 900 to 500!

23:56:13 assbot: GHC Interactive Stock Chart | Yahoo! Inc. Stock - Yahoo! Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1y3cj0q )

23:56:45 mircea_popescu: Matt O'Brien is a reporter for Wonkblog covering economic affairs. He was previously a senior associate editor at The Atlantic. He is also an idiot soon to be permanently unemployed.

23:58:05 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: cadchf -40% in 1h total ponzy. << well... that's a point there, canada totally is a ponzi scheme.

23:59:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't get it, in what sense is CFRG/ietf influential ?

23:59:33 mircea_popescu: gavin isn't quitting the scam foundation either, and obviously the msm would present it as "influential". what's it influence, reddit ?