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00:03:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00050999 = 2.6519 BTC [+] {2}

00:08:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00049925 = 3.0454 BTC [-] {2}

00:10:10 thestringpuller: afk grabbing food

00:11:00 adlai: ^ pure snr imnsho, along with !down etc

00:12:50 thestringpuller: wrong channel :<

00:14:22 *: adlai files incident under "excuses to steal"

00:17:09 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1370343 << i see this constantly

00:17:09 assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 21:32:41; mircea_popescu: i suspect that at the root of the complexity-seeking behaviours is the deeply internalized if very infantile fear that if others understand what you did they won't respect you for doing it. because hey, 5yo doesn't understand what parents do.

00:21:54 ben_vulpes: ui programmers are especially prone to this, imho because the smalltalk MPI style of MVC and data marshalling through layers is very much not a paradigm that lends itself to simplicity of code design.

00:23:12 deedbot-: [Qntra] NYTimes: Mike Hearn "Gave Up" - http://qntra.net/2016/01/nytimes-mike-hearn-gave-up/

00:23:50 *: adlai blinks... since when does deedbot- follow nyt? or hearn for that matter?

00:23:58 ben_vulpes: qntra, yo

00:24:29 adlai: afk grabbing sleep/etc

00:24:52 BingoBoingo: Quadruple title chain via deedbot- yo

00:33:37 jurov: ;;ticker

00:33:39 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 427.56, Best ask: 427.71, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 427.52, 24 hour volume: 13409.57571648, 24 hour low: 426.0, 24 hour high: 435.0, 24 hour vwap: None

00:33:57 jurov: ^ clearly abject failure

00:44:10 mircea_popescu: something occurred ?

00:46:01 mod6: shinohai: good to hear, thx for the update.

00:46:14 mod6: now i will look at PeterL's issue.

00:46:28 mats: https://www.qualys.com/2016/01/14/cve-2016-0777-cve-2016-0778/openssh-cve-2016-0777-cve-2016-0778.txt

00:46:31 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TYRpYI )

00:46:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00049892 = 5.987 BTC [-] {3}

00:49:17 mod6: ;; later tell PeterL hey, the version of 'v.pl' that you have looks correct to me. the issue is that you have the pubkeys named incorrectly, try with 'mod6.asc', 'ben_vulpes.asc', 'asciilifeform.asc' and 'mircea_popescu.asc'

00:49:18 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:51:40 mod6: ;;later tell PeterL I guess also, if that doesn't resolve the issue, there could be something weird going on with your gpg import. might have to investigate more with you.

00:51:41 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:52:44 phf: asciilifeform: in your pgp version are you getting rid of the whole keyring concept? i assume the switch is to "a folder full of ascs"?

00:53:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11244 @ 0.00049883 = 5.6088 BTC [-]

01:08:41 BingoBoingo: Looks like I missed https://archive.is/9Kmlb

01:08:42 assbot: The resolution of the Bitcoin experiment — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1TYTm7y )

01:10:14 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitstein I missed that original piece by Mike Hearn. I see no reason to link it or an archive of in in the Qntra article. Mike Hearn hasn't had a say on any subject in a long time. Why should he get one about himself?

01:10:14 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:12:37 deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] “They don’t print paper catalogues anymore, everything’s on their website.” - http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/14/they-dont-print-paper-catalogues-anymore-everythings-on-their-website/

01:13:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3282 @ 0.00050312 = 1.6512 BTC [+] {2}

01:13:37 mircea_popescu: " but it?s now common to be asked to pay more to miners than a credit card would charge."

01:13:42 mircea_popescu: dude get the everloving fuck out.

01:14:18 mircea_popescu: for one thing, i have yet to see a tx that cost 0.1 btc fixed fee, which is what wires cost. for the other, credit cards are UNIVERSALY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WIRES.

01:14:28 mircea_popescu: which is why people who aren't poorfags use wires.

01:15:28 mircea_popescu: reading mike hearn is like reading timecube without the humor, writing skill, grounding in reality, variety and aesthetic appreciation.

01:15:47 BingoBoingo: !b 3

01:15:49 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2ZAB70Z.txt )

01:16:42 BingoBoingo: That's the other good reason it wouldn't have been linked if I found it in time. It's like Cryptsy screaming their were hacked after their end has already entered the record. Too late.

01:17:13 mircea_popescu: this ustard fixation with credit cards.

01:17:15 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2016/01/nytimes-mike-hearn-gave-up/#comment-39977

01:17:17 assbot: NYTimes: Mike Hearn "Gave Up" | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1TYU7NY )

01:17:26 mircea_popescu: "oh, cars don't even have buggywhips!!11 CARS HAVE FAILED!11"

01:17:33 mircea_popescu: stop trying to hurt horses, idiot.

01:20:30 BingoBoingo: What, my car has a buggy whip. Not very useful when moving anymore, but might be useful if stopped by an angry urban crowd.

01:22:06 adlai: some of my best friends defuse road rage with firearms (works in the middle east, at least, where it's initiated with posturing rather than intent)

01:22:06 mircea_popescu: heh

01:22:46 mircea_popescu: up until they run into one of the people that go by the principle that "if i see you armed you're dead."

01:23:21 *: adlai has yet to see the "51st state" go full usgtard

01:24:42 *: BingoBoingo prefer the whip for historical lulz. If going down to an angry urban mob might as well tack on the irony of defending self with Antebellum era agricultural tool.

01:31:42 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

01:31:46 gribble: Current Blocks: 393357 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1778 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

01:37:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3166 @ 0.00050037 = 1.5842 BTC [-]

01:38:28 mircea_popescu: http://maddox.com/ ahahaha what the fuck

01:38:29 assbot: Robert Maddox ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSa1tr )

01:38:39 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370555 << ahahahahaha whole thing is worth reading:

01:38:39 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 00:46:28; mats: https://www.qualys.com/2016/01/14/cve-2016-0777-cve-2016-0778/openssh-cve-2016-0777-cve-2016-0778.txt

01:38:58 asciilifeform: 'OpenSSH 6.6 is the only version that is not affected, because it calls explicit_bzero() instead of memset() or bzero(). ..... older GCC versions do not remove the memset() or bzero() call made by buffer_free() or sshbuf_free(). GCC 5 and Clang/LLVM do, however, remove it.'

01:39:02 mircea_popescu: http://www.themillionairebloggingsystem.com/ << epic shit.

01:39:03 assbot: The Millionaire Blogging System ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSa3Bv )

01:39:33 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was improved.

01:39:39 asciilifeform: see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-12-2015#1336374

01:39:39 assbot: Logged on 04-12-2015 14:59:41; asciilifeform: (does anyone recall the very recent thread re: gcc optimizing away a certain kind of security check WHEN EXPLICITLY ASKED NOT TO ?)

01:40:21 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://maddox.com/ ahahaha what the fuck << http://maddox.xmission.com

01:40:22 assbot: Robert Maddox ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSa1tr )

01:40:24 assbot: rULeR Of thE UniverSe. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSa9ct )

01:40:28 mircea_popescu: ty,

01:40:45 mircea_popescu: but i think ima stop listening to people who don't have what i want (tits)

01:41:15 mircea_popescu: also... "this could be my office"

01:41:55 asciilifeform: holy shit is that reptilia's hotel ?!!

01:42:38 asciilifeform: re: earlier, see also: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-10-2015#1298696

01:42:38 assbot: Logged on 14-10-2015 15:49:34; punkman: old gcc lulz https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30475#c4

01:43:49 mircea_popescu: it's some old dude apparently living in costa rica (which he invented), telling the world truths in centered lines. "Yes, in case you didn't know it Facebook is a HUGE Blogging Platform and it earns Facebook Billions of Dollars !In fact Facebook generated $217.00 every second, 24hrs a day during 2013. And they Earned that money from You Blogging!"

01:44:03 mircea_popescu: i'm sure that's how they got it. not from random usg tendrils washing billions in "advertising".

01:44:51 mircea_popescu: "I have and I am continuing to make posts relating to different Occupations and Passions that can Profit and or Benefit from having a Blog. I will give a touch of ideas of HOW a Blog can Help each topic."

01:45:04 mircea_popescu: this is Lulzy and extreMely Amuseing.

01:45:05 asciilifeform: in other 'news', 4 days of malleus without a blackholing

01:45:14 mircea_popescu: o/

01:46:14 mircea_popescu: "The Video is just a small sample that can get you started with Your Blog. Each subject is also reinforcement for ideas that You can use in your Life. Example .. The Ideas that I give for a Doctor can easily be modified and applied to another business or Passion. The basics of How a Doctor can monetize her Blog can also be applied to a person with a Coin Collection."

01:46:21 mircea_popescu: this vaguely reminds me of me when i was 6.

01:46:34 mircea_popescu: did i tell the story of the utility program i wrote in basic ?

01:47:44 asciilifeform: hm?

01:48:20 mircea_popescu: was a lengthy list of 4+7*3 = 25

01:48:40 mircea_popescu: not sorted in any particular order. so that you know, if you needed a calculatuion made... you could just run my program and ... look it up.

01:48:55 mircea_popescu: maybe you wish to know what 6+5+3+2*3 = ?

01:49:08 asciilifeform: l0l matrix multiplication tables!

01:49:16 mircea_popescu: what can i say. you got me.

01:49:30 mircea_popescu: i had it saved on tape.

01:49:36 mircea_popescu: THEN i figurd out the tape could get damaged

01:49:40 mircea_popescu: so i saved it on another tape.

01:49:57 asciilifeform: preserved to this day ?

01:50:05 mircea_popescu: my mother prolly has it.

01:50:21 asciilifeform: i have floppies from before i was born, that still read ok

01:50:28 BingoBoingo: This Hearnia stuff has be stuck back reading March 2013 fraudsters. Prolly one of my top 5 favorite fraudsters months http://fraudsters.com/lets-capture-forum-bugs-in-amber

01:50:30 assbot: Let's capture forum bugs in amber on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSb10G )

01:50:41 mircea_popescu: actually the ddr metallic-something tapes of the era were much better than everything i saw since.

01:50:52 asciilifeform: aha!

01:50:57 mircea_popescu: you got favourite months bb ?!

01:50:58 asciilifeform: those were mega-spiffy

01:51:02 asciilifeform: my folks had'em

01:51:10 mircea_popescu: basf made excellent ones and so did uh

01:51:13 mircea_popescu: i forget, yellow.

01:51:22 asciilifeform: basf made the best floppies also

01:51:31 mircea_popescu: i think the best igot were 3m

01:51:40 asciilifeform: best in orcland at any rate

01:51:41 mircea_popescu: 3m actually was a fine corp for a long time.

01:51:51 asciilifeform: i still remember my first 3m product

01:52:08 asciilifeform: mother brought it in one day - a box of 'post-it-notes'

01:52:17 asciilifeform: they had a strange perfume inside, also

01:52:23 asciilifeform: (today it is no longer used)

01:52:40 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yes, but I can only ever name one at a time and never specify and ordering lest I jinx the list. This is still feeling now like an alt universe version of 2012-2013

01:53:48 BingoBoingo: And seriously March 2013 fraudsters linked to /dtng/ even http://fraudsters.com/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/

01:53:49 assbot: Rape is fun, or let's fuck up Adria Richards on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeBAsR )

01:53:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00050653 = 2.1528 BTC [+]

01:56:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00049837 = 1.6197 BTC [-] {4}

02:03:08 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/dIA0kWk.jpg

02:03:09 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeC7uC )

02:03:36 BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/a/B8PMl

02:03:36 assbot: The Yay! Blood Glucose Monitor - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeC81T )

02:28:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00049809 = 2.2912 BTC [-]

02:52:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43350 @ 0.00050891 = 22.0612 BTC [+] {5}

02:57:19 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370562 << take a guess.

02:57:19 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 00:52:44; phf: asciilifeform: in your pgp version are you getting rid of the whole keyring concept? i assume the switch is to "a folder full of ascs"?

02:57:44 asciilifeform: fuck hidden state.

02:58:24 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370564 << holy fuck what a snorefest

02:58:24 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 01:08:41; BingoBoingo: Looks like I missed https://archive.is/9Kmlb

02:59:12 asciilifeform: now if only the other vermin heard hearn's 'surrender' and followed him into the sea

02:59:31 asciilifeform: (do we need a magical flute to make this work ?)

02:59:53 BingoBoingo: Need magical skin flute

03:00:43 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370572 << ~to the merchant.~ (and yes, priced in.) but h is speaking to konsooomers, who 'if i don't see it, it doesn't exist and doesn't possibly affect me'

03:00:43 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 01:14:18; mircea_popescu: for one thing, i have yet to see a tx that cost 0.1 btc fixed fee, which is what wires cost. for the other, credit cards are UNIVERSALY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN WIRES.

03:14:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00049809 = 3.4119 BTC [-] {2}

03:15:24 adlai: magic flutes playing funeral marches rival buggywhips as chicken repellent

03:16:57 asciilifeform: http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sexism_videogames << mega-l0l from BingoBoingo's link

03:16:58 assbot: Sexism in video games: the solution nobody is talking about. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd4Sxz )

03:17:47 adlai: asciilifeform: since when are you reimplementing keyring-aware pgp?

03:17:55 asciilifeform: since never

03:18:09 adlai: aiui cardano only needs to know of a single key

03:18:13 asciilifeform: aha

03:18:20 asciilifeform: adlai: i think phf was asking about 'p'

03:18:25 adlai: aha

03:18:33 asciilifeform: and keyrings are retarded, and will not appear in any form

03:19:17 *: adlai is reminded of a snide remark made behind the back of an aging warrant officer: "your measure of success in life is inversely proportional to the weight and noise of your keyring"

03:20:29 asciilifeform: i suppose height of my career was as a penniless student: 1 key

03:20:35 asciilifeform: (rather than today, 12)

03:21:18 asciilifeform: http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=apple_store_ban << lulzy re: crapple

03:21:19 assbot: Confirmed: I'm banned from Apple Stores. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wd5vXQ )

03:23:24 *: adlai somehow doesn't imagine asciilifeform walking around with 12 cardanos looped into his belt

03:25:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00049809 = 2.7395 BTC [-] {2}

03:35:18 adlai: actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts)

03:36:54 BingoBoingo: adlai: You might need to luke-jr against that pope

03:38:25 *: adlai always kept spare earplugs hidden in his 'buggywhip'

03:43:46 BingoBoingo: Anyways adlai, my impression that that belt is not where one wears cardano

03:45:33 adlai: this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether

03:45:48 adlai: !up AdrianG

03:46:22 AdrianG: thx

03:48:23 AdrianG: how do i obtain voice on join?

03:49:04 danielpbarron: !gettrust assbot AdrianG

03:49:04 assbot: AdrianG is not registered in WoT.

03:49:27 AdrianG: ?

03:51:17 BingoBoingo: !help

03:51:17 assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot

03:51:23 BingoBoingo: ^ AdrianG

03:51:31 danielpbarron: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets

03:51:33 assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o )

03:53:09 adlai: in other news, https://i.imgur.com/AYOxr2h.jpg

03:53:10 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmCEo9 )

03:55:31 adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-01-2016#1369311 << incf!

03:55:31 assbot: Logged on 13-01-2016 17:22:06; ascii_butugychag: http://tryacl2.org << unrelated, but very nifty.

03:55:35 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370704 << win

03:55:35 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:53:09; adlai: in other news, https://i.imgur.com/AYOxr2h.jpg

03:56:07 adlai: more as a 'lisp for its target audience' than anything else, tbh

03:56:21 asciilifeform: adlai: it is not a general-purpose lisp at all

03:56:54 asciilifeform: (implemented on a cl, yes, but is really a specialist tool)

03:57:02 adlai: this is an excellent infection vector, like how my floss-hating friend now uses gimp

03:58:15 adlai: (and blender, and linux... he's not yet sold on bitcoin, suffering from a terminal case of fiat-startuptardation)

04:00:16 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The black hole treatment may have moved on to... me. Several times today restarted home node after finding myself stuck 3 to 14 blocks behind. Just recovered from a 4 hour lag.

04:00:59 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: proper blackhole, with the characteristic logz, or plain old lag ?

04:01:19 AdrianG: !gettrust assbot AdrianG

04:01:19 assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user AdrianG: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=AdrianG | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/AdrianG/

04:01:51 BingoBoingo: plain lag it seems so far. Wasn't anticipating so hadn't set up anything looking for it yet. What should I be looking for?

04:02:09 BingoBoingo: AdrianG: Mebbe introduce yourself?

04:02:56 AdrianG: ive been reading about this place.

04:03:20 BingoBoingo: Cool

04:03:55 BingoBoingo: Just helps if you let people know who your are. For example: I'm BingoBoingo and I'm an alcoholic.

04:04:36 AdrianG: do you irc drunk too?

04:05:07 BingoBoingo: Not anymore. Sober a bit less than 3 months nao.

04:05:47 AdrianG: im mainly interested in crypto tech, all these bitcoins/etc.

04:06:12 BingoBoingo: I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter.

04:06:15 AdrianG: just wanted to idle mainly and see what ppl are talking about, i dont chat that much these days

04:06:20 AdrianG: lol

04:06:24 BingoBoingo: Ah

04:06:58 *: adlai answers AdrianG from pm: self-voicing is for people two steps removed from assbot so no, I can not help you in this regard

04:07:00 AdrianG: things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes

04:07:31 BingoBoingo: AdrianG: It's just hard to get that first rating unless you give people something to judge you by whether it's throwing out ideas in channel here or linking some previous stuff to read.

04:08:53 adlai: or writing articles for qntra, which is always in need of biased yet accurate coverage of technical news

04:09:39 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/14/they-dont-print-paper-catalogues-anymore-everythings-on-their-website/#comment-38941

04:09:40 assbot: “They don’t print paper catalogues anymore, everything’s on their website.” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmFkSW )

04:09:57 AdrianG: adlai: you write for qntra?

04:10:09 adlai: http://qntra.net/author/adlai/

04:10:10 assbot: Adlai | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmFoCa )

04:10:59 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Of course you are

04:11:56 pete_dushenski: of course ?

04:12:31 pete_dushenski: i play white collar sports goddamit

04:12:47 pete_dushenski: i wasn't raised in a country barn yknow

04:13:23 pete_dushenski: mod6: you around ?

04:13:54 BingoBoingo: I wasn't raised in a barn either, but I can still smell barn when the wind comes from the wrong direction

04:14:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00049566 = 3.4696 BTC [-] {2}

04:14:12 BingoBoingo: Or for most of the month after county fair week.

04:17:09 BingoBoingo: !up AdrianG

04:18:10 AdrianG: http://blog.cryptsy.com/

04:18:11 assbot: Cryptsy Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmGjCv )

04:18:17 AdrianG: irc trojan in the wallet code, heh.

04:18:51 mod6: pete_dushenski: yup, how goes it?

04:19:52 pete_dushenski: blame irc for all the world's problems !!

04:21:36 danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.AdrianG.1:50fcf710cef58ed3dbf0da8ef386bbe1897c392c11e2731920a14d8803173bc4

04:21:37 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for AdrianG with note: Seen him in other channels.

04:26:20 AdrianG: thx

04:33:15 adlai: beautiful watching children reinvent the WoT... tearfully reminds one of the early days of forum.bitcoin.com

04:33:18 adlai: https://archive.is/eqaXs

04:33:18 assbot: BitcoinX Membership | BitcoinX ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmHUbx )

04:35:08 AdrianG: adlai: have you seen keybase?

04:35:37 adlai: have you seen /r/btc_superclassico?

04:36:32 adlai: if you're serving clients javascript pgp implementations, you may have a better career happiness brokering fiat options by telephone

04:38:06 adlai: legal in israel, pays in "economic numbers" relative to the salesmen's previous jobs (hocking 'dead sea salt' in your local consumeristemple), rapidly replacing manufacture of arms both small and precise as the nation's primary income stream

04:42:10 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=30&v=8pmw5CAc3rk

04:42:10 assbot: Two Visions | Bernie Sanders - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmIV3j )

04:42:22 adlai: seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents

04:43:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00049793 = 2.5892 BTC [-] {3}

04:44:49 ben_vulpes: since sks is on the chopping block next, i imagine !register will eventually eat plaintext pubkeys.

04:45:28 *: adlai is looking for !pubkey <nick> that poops them back out

04:45:46 ben_vulpes: mhm

04:46:30 adlai: if nothing else, just for verification that what you sent in !register didn't get diddled (assuming assbot itself doesn't use mpex security standard)

04:47:22 *: adlai wonders where on the chopping block lie replay attack prevention

04:52:58 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1370091 << fixed, ty

04:52:58 assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 14:05:57; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes hey you gotta fix http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html

05:00:29 *: adlai can't find the trollbox input field?

05:00:42 ben_vulpes: keep looking

05:01:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3044 @ 0.00049566 = 1.5088 BTC [-] {2}

05:04:19 adlai: ;;later tell dub re: comment in https://archive.is/aLk6f, you omit the reason why this is an excellent s-pass filter: technical barriers to entry leave low-content photons behind. cf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369512

05:04:20 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTmldc )

05:04:20 assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 00:10:03; mircea_popescu: http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/photons.htm << this thing's a fucking riot. "photon of color" totally makes the whole piece.

05:04:20 gribble: The operation succeeded.

05:06:59 adlai: ben_vulpes re: "not operating a public urinal", tel aviv municipality has begun charging shnekels

05:08:26 *: adlai notes that mircea_popescu has voluntarily stuffed a gold bar into one of these, which is quite generous of him; once it runs low, it should really be somebody else's turn to jam the meter

05:09:06 ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: do you still have a copy of trinque's gentooizer?

05:11:38 adlai: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/12/25_ann-wotpaste-alpha-oh-and-i-found-another-fucked-up-corner-of-gpg.html#fnr.1 << this is a not-bug-feature in deed^I (ping trinque ), gives the operator lead time in the nickel snatching race

05:11:39 assbot: [ANN] WOTPASTE Alpha (oh and I found another fucked up corner of GPG...) ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmLvpX )

05:17:14 trinque: ben_vulpes: I have it

05:18:15 ben_vulpes: neato, trinque. i'd love a copy.

05:18:55 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1239184

05:18:55 assbot: Logged on 15-08-2015 22:32:03; trinque: shinohai: http://deedbot.org/genbootstrap.sh.sig

05:19:59 trinque: having logs is so great.

05:20:11 trinque: I mean that as broadly as possible.

05:20:41 trinque: moreover logs with cryptographically preserved time capsules

05:22:46 adlai: deed-by-month is the enemy of merkle mountaineering greatness

05:23:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4434 @ 0.00049653 = 2.2016 BTC [+]

05:23:28 adlai: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/12/21_development-costs-of-user-interface-development-and-mitigating-them-with-clojurescript.html#fn.1 << shit, my business model leaked

05:23:29 assbot: Development Costs of User Interface Development (and mitigating them with Clojure/Script) ... ( http://bit.ly/1nmMFBY )

05:26:58 adlai: ben_vulpes: seen yet? https://www.iit.bme.hu/~salvi/archive/snippets/subdivision-source.html

05:27:47 pete_dushenski: https://map.what3words.com/ << " what3words has identified every one of the 57 trillion 3mx3m squares on the entire planet with just three, easy to remember, words. Every location on the earth now has a fixed, easily-accessible and memorable address. Unpopulated places have addresses for the first time ever, of course, but now so do heavily populated places like favelas in Brazil where there are no roads or numb

05:27:50 pete_dushenski: ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages."

05:31:04 adlai: next up, utxo-bloating "global triverb billboard"

05:31:25 ben_vulpes: one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map

05:31:34 ben_vulpes: i don't really see that in 3w

05:31:50 adlai: you're looking at implementation bugs, the idea is priceless

05:32:02 adlai: or worthless. or both

05:32:44 punkman: http://blog.babelmonkeys.de/2014/04/29/data-flow-party.html more gcc fun

05:32:45 assbot: A little data-flow analysis party trick ... ( http://bit.ly/1UToYvm )

05:38:02 trinque: adlai: on my list is having the... urinal as you call it... announce its hunger

05:40:13 trinque: by god, sometime this month it might even have a fully synced trb to poke too

05:41:11 trinque: I'm still waiting on your generous donation btw, Anduck

05:42:22 punkman: notbad alt-deedbot I saw https://bitsig.io/

05:42:23 assbot: bitsig - Blockchain Timestamps ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTq4aw )

05:46:17 ben_vulpes: re sks thread signed bundles of keys on everyone's websites is probably the best way to go

05:47:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4310 @ 0.00049896 = 2.1505 BTC [+] {2}

05:52:09 adlai: bestgood alt-deedbot is http://cryptograffiti.info/

05:52:11 assbot: CryptoGraffiti - Bitcoin blockchain messages as text ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTqWft )

05:52:17 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: re: 3x, that's an excellent point. they really don't take that into account.

05:52:32 adlai: because it actually does what idiots think it does, and thus minimizes gnashing of teeth

05:53:34 *: adlai has been studying https://github.com/HugPuddle/Apertus lately, will probably push blockchainfs onto the endless moebius TODO stack, along with utxosetfs

05:53:35 assbot: GitHub - HugPuddle/Apertus: Apertus - Store data, browse and communicate on your favorite Blockchains. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTr5j4 )

05:54:06 adlai: the latter purely to annoy those who don't understand why bloom filters belong in Bitcoin

06:01:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2390 @ 0.00050317 = 1.2026 BTC [+]

06:04:24 adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-12-2015#1341098 << books must be written one prop at a time

06:04:24 assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 15:09:13; asciilifeform: adlai: have you considered starting a proper blog ?

06:08:20 punkman: adlai: how does apertus encode the data?

06:08:25 adlai: call it an experiment in a new funding model for open source software / pheature poker

06:08:38 adlai: punkman: unimpressively

06:09:50 adlai: https://webbtc.com/tx/78f0e6de0ce007f4dd4a09085e649d7e354f70bc7da06d697b167f353f115b8e << spam, spam, fees, spam, utxo bloat, spam

06:09:51 assbot: Bitcoin BlockBrowser - Transaction Details ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTsHcu )

06:11:30 punkman: ben_vulpes: the one with "locality-sensitive-hashing" is http://geohash.org/

06:11:41 *: adlai wouldn't blink at a USG imprisonment warrant (and seizure of License to Mine) against such txen

06:14:36 BingoBoingo: Bundy builds roads https://twitter.com/amandapeacher/status/687837389092331521

06:14:55 ben_vulpes: !up punindented

06:15:23 punindented: tx

06:15:53 punindented: I'll let this here http://www.spatial-effects.com/urisa/

06:16:03 ben_vulpes: dont mention it

06:16:59 ben_vulpes: dunno that im into geocoding at all nearly so much as legibility

06:17:33 punindented: well, you can build a hash using that algo and then represent it as you like

06:17:40 punindented: a mnemonic if you're into that

06:18:07 punindented: good thing about that algo is larger areas produce shorter hashes

06:18:37 ben_vulpes: did you catch my point about proximity info embedded in the way things are done traditionally?

06:18:56 punindented: no, let me check the log

06:19:59 punindented: relative proximity in terms of radius or direction and distance?

06:20:14 ben_vulpes: addresses increment from known points, streets are in locations known to natives. addresses encode 'where', legibly.

06:20:53 *: adlai has rekindled interest in publicurinalfs due to meatpope wanting to immortalize [some arbitrary edition of] {the,his} Bible

06:21:07 punindented: well, you have a recursive algo as well then, but the epicenter varies right?

06:21:23 adlai: meatpope, like the other kinds, has rubies to donate, provided it's done in a kosher manner according to satoshivision etc

06:21:33 ben_vulpes: yes, one must know how to read them. the universality, plus the randomness of hashing completely buries the location signal.

06:22:08 punindented: what are you building :)

06:22:46 punkman: https://github.com/google/open-location-code/blob/master/docs/comparison.adoc nice list of geohashes

06:22:47 assbot: open-location-code/comparison.adoc at master · google/open-location-code · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTtQRf )

06:22:57 ben_vulpes: me? nothing, just pointing out features of the way addresses already work.

06:23:29 punindented: mkay, I have a 'dirty' mind

06:24:05 ben_vulpes: lol dirty how?

06:24:21 BingoBoingo: People who really ought to be reading Qntra instead of medium and livejournal https://archive.is/EbFmp

06:24:22 assbot: Gavin Andresen and Mike Hearn want to sabotage Bitcoin on behalf of the US government. - Andrew Auernheimer ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTtY3m )

06:24:57 adlai: BingoBoingo: /= read eval print

06:25:12 BingoBoingo: ?

06:25:14 *: adlai ... loops

06:25:21 punindented: geocoding is interesting for allowing interactions in real life, interactions in real life are interesting to build markets, ...

06:25:23 adlai: it's a lisp joke

06:25:32 BingoBoingo: eggog <2lsd

06:25:43 adlai: !s meth-lsd

06:25:44 assbot: 3 results for 'meth-lsd' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meth-lsd

06:27:10 *: adlai is a lotus eater and humbles himself before higher powers such as the legends of bias, zeno, jmc, and satoshi

06:28:22 ben_vulpes: punindented: real life interactions have just about epsilon need of geocoding to proceed

06:29:51 pete_dushenski: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/protections-urged-recent-sex-assaults-nyc-cabs-36218847 << lulz. "please, be more like progressive saudi arabia, where wimminz aren't allowed to leave their houses without their chaperones. kthxbye."

06:29:56 assbot: NYC Police Boss Urges 'Buddy System' for Women in Cabs - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTuvlT )

06:29:56 ben_vulpes: but hey, posit a specific case and let's proceed from there

06:30:04 punindented: what about secure real life transactions

06:30:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3565 @ 0.00050366 = 1.7955 BTC [+] {3}

06:30:29 punindented: between previously unknown people

06:30:40 ben_vulpes: i bought a car for 6kusd from a man i found on craigslist who...sent me his address.

06:30:46 ben_vulpes: and yes i took a goon, but who doesn't?

06:31:26 punindented: haha, well, I wasn't thinking of the second hand vehicle market

06:31:52 adlai: punindented: the good-enough solution (drops) gets rediscovered on p2p lists quite often these days... yet customers seem to keep using 'evolution'

06:31:54 ben_vulpes: and yes, the likes of asciilifeform and i gather punindented boggle at the notion of doing h2h's with marginally-known parties with kilobuxx on the barrel

06:32:19 ben_vulpes: although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know...

06:32:44 ben_vulpes: o this is the sr thread again?

06:32:47 adlai: drops are best described not as a coordinate, but using natural language... helps make the system more expensive to game

06:33:01 adlai: pretty much, unless punindented has something else in mind?

06:33:08 punindented: nah, let it go

06:33:36 ben_vulpes: hey, nobody's going to know what you're talking about unless you go so far as to talk about it

06:33:40 BingoBoingo: What happens when Vox.com makes the guy who was interested in Bitcoin sell https://archive.is/u2Uok

06:33:41 assbot: Timothy B. Lee on Twitter: "Is Mike Hearn's post here overstating the magnitude of Bitcoin's crisis? https://t.co/qxLqfk9VRR" ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTuRc9 )

06:34:14 pete_dushenski: http://www.caranddriver.com/flipbook/12-things-to-know-about-chevrolets-30000-bolt-ev << one for BingoBoingo, the boltmeister.

06:34:14 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTuVbS )

06:34:15 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> and yes i took a goon, but who doesn't? << Persons who are their own goon

06:34:49 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm fine watching the bolt ans tesla both suck together

06:34:50 ben_vulpes: btw BingoBoingo i did not miss the brodin line, chuckled

06:34:59 ben_vulpes: but are you really that swole yet?

06:34:59 BingoBoingo: ty ben_vulpes

06:35:04 pete_dushenski: looks like the vw golf-sized bolt weighs damn near two tons. gooooo environment !

06:35:06 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Not that swole yet

06:35:43 pete_dushenski: and lg chem is making the battery for the bolt (but really, who else ?)

06:36:09 ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: so is there something wrong with the volt drivetrain that it's not showing up in pickups etc?

06:36:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6001 @ 0.00049817 = 2.9895 BTC [-] {3}

06:36:31 ben_vulpes: it looks like the least stupid thing to come out of the ecomovement from over here

06:36:41 pete_dushenski: it's more the market demographics

06:36:51 pete_dushenski: there's pretty well zero overlap between greenies and truck drivers

06:37:05 ben_vulpes: but that low end torque!

06:37:11 pete_dushenski: gm tried 'hybrid' pick-ups, sold like 10 of em

06:37:46 ben_vulpes: nono not the hybrid part, i dgaf abt that. the electric motors with onboard generation.

06:38:58 pete_dushenski: the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place

06:39:42 ben_vulpes: ...

06:39:53 ben_vulpes: ecoshits aside

06:40:03 ben_vulpes: oh hm

06:40:30 ben_vulpes: they cant conceive of unbundling the good idea from the rhetoric.

06:41:09 pete_dushenski: you want torque, buy a diesel.

06:41:25 pete_dushenski: diesel makes moar smoak too, moar prestige

06:41:29 ben_vulpes: too loud.

06:41:48 pete_dushenski: you're obviously not a pick-up truck buyer

06:42:03 pete_dushenski: they're 80% for show

06:42:17 ben_vulpes: electric drivetrain with onboard generation is entirely the way to go. the train people figured this out a looong ime ago; "diesel electric".

06:42:29 ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: yes there's clearly something at work other than sanity

06:42:58 pete_dushenski: yup, "people who shouldn't have money with middling amounts of it"

06:43:22 ben_vulpes: one of your favorite threads :P

06:43:30 pete_dushenski: trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently

06:43:40 pete_dushenski: as road vehicles

06:43:52 ben_vulpes: goodness no, they're designed by smart people to...work efficiently as capital equipment.

06:45:30 ben_vulpes: fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep.

06:45:32 pete_dushenski: http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2011-chevrolet-tahoe-hybrid-side.jpg << tahoe hybrid, same '2-mode' powertrain as silverado pick-up, same retarded-on-a-stick aero kit

06:45:35 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6f88R )

06:45:35 ben_vulpes: BURN YOUR CAR.

06:47:07 adlai: buy a bike, you'll learn more about trading and addiction from not getting run over than you will from losing money on plebian status symbols

06:47:19 adlai: better yet, rent one, if you live in a halfway modern metropolis

06:47:37 pete_dushenski: and skip the helmet

06:47:45 *: adlai is still waiting for his bus

06:47:51 *: ben_vulpes has bikes at three houses around town

06:48:18 ben_vulpes: helmet still recommended if yr gonna play the alleycat

06:48:31 BingoBoingo: The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks

06:48:52 ben_vulpes: but yeah notrly necessary for the casual pannier derp

06:49:09 pete_dushenski: what's an alleycat ?

06:49:20 ben_vulpes: oh ho ho

06:49:22 pete_dushenski: in cyclist lingo

06:49:36 ben_vulpes: bike scum shit

06:50:01 ben_vulpes: "here are ten checkpoints in the metro area. GO!"

06:50:39 *: adlai would kill [his reputation] for a livable career as a bike messenger

06:51:26 adlai: excellent way to literally die honoring a contract (or serving a subpoena)

06:51:53 ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: are there no bike scum where you live?

06:52:40 ben_vulpes: tallbikes, gorilla bars, swing-arms?

06:52:53 pete_dushenski: not really. the potholes and the snow are pretty potent deterrents i guess

06:53:08 pete_dushenski: if there are, they're few and far between

06:53:44 ben_vulpes: shame

06:53:58 pete_dushenski: lol

06:54:22 ben_vulpes: you should see pedalpalooza

06:54:45 ben_vulpes: adlai: might enjoy it

06:55:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00049566 = 2.4287 BTC [-] {2}

06:58:34 *: adlai is too busy riding his other bike to notice/'google'

07:03:45 punkman: https://www.flexport.com/blog/amazon-ocean-freight-forwarder/

07:03:47 assbot: Amazon Has Just Registered to Sell Ocean Freight ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6g5hz )

07:08:47 ben_vulpes: lol

07:09:13 ben_vulpes: i can see them snapping up a mess of freighters at rock bottom prices as the bdi keeps collapsing

07:10:57 ben_vulpes: "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more

07:11:28 *: pete_dushenski to sleep

07:12:34 ben_vulpes: wow 40-footers going for 1.3k from shenzen to la

07:12:43 ben_vulpes: betcha you can keep the box too

07:14:13 ben_vulpes: ;;8377.5 * 0.24

07:14:14 gribble: Error: "8377.5" is not a valid command.

07:14:22 ben_vulpes: ;;calc 8377.5 * 0.24

07:14:22 gribble: 2010.6

07:14:42 ben_vulpes: ahaha man if they're letting you keep the container you might even be able to make a profit just selling the empty boxes for scrap

07:15:19 ben_vulpes: wait that's stainless

07:15:20 ben_vulpes: :(

07:17:12 ben_vulpes: anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder.

07:20:29 Atomicat: ;;up Transisto2

07:20:29 gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.

07:21:09 Atomicat: !up Transisto2

07:21:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00050603 = 1.3916 BTC [+] {2}

07:21:17 Atomicat: Transisto2: Hi

07:35:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2847 @ 0.00050144 = 1.4276 BTC [-] {2}

07:52:31 ben_vulpes: ;;sell 1000

07:52:31 gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {(mtgox|bitstamp)(ask|bid|last|high|low|avg)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, last, high, low, (1 more message)

07:52:39 ben_vulpes: ;;market sell 1000

07:52:40 gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 405869.8939 USD and would take the last price down to 404.7000 USD, resulting in an average price of 405.8699 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0048 seconds

07:52:50 ben_vulpes: ;;market sell 2000

07:52:51 gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 809373.3715 USD and would take the last price down to 403.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 404.6867 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 10.3600 seconds

07:52:59 ben_vulpes: ;;market sell 5000

07:52:59 gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 2012068.3060 USD and would take the last price down to 399.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 402.4137 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 18.6682 seconds

07:53:08 ben_vulpes: ;;market sell 10000

07:53:09 gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 3922378.5897 USD and would take the last price down to 362.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 392.2379 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.1804 seconds

07:53:24 ben_vulpes: ;;market sell 100000

07:53:24 gribble: Bitfinex | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7221905.5597 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0010 USD, resulting in an average price of 72.2191 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 43.9365 seconds

07:55:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6907 @ 0.00050849 = 3.5121 BTC [+] {3}

08:01:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00050999 = 1.224 BTC [+]

08:08:36 jurov: ben_vulpes yay. it does not account for encoding, as seen in view-source:http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/f3e6ddef-9c00-43d9-ab4f-3d02d64409f4/?raw=true

08:10:03 jurov: also, if there will ever be need for clearsigned-only service, ask me to make new mailing list next to btc-dev (and unlike deedbot, it allows attachments, too)

08:10:56 jurov: with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames

08:17:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00050999 = 1.8105 BTC [+]

08:37:34 ben_vulpes: to the extent it was designed, it was designed to eat ascii.

08:38:52 ben_vulpes: what would you expect to see there?

08:44:58 jurov: when submitting form, browser sends along the encoding.

08:45:23 jurov: not a biggie to send it back, even slap the http header to raw text (text/plain;charset="$charset")

08:47:33 ben_vulpes: browser also submits

08:47:33 ben_vulpes: r

08:47:40 ben_vulpes: \r\n for every newline

08:47:49 ben_vulpes: but sure

08:48:30 ben_vulpes: i can almost guarantee that i am not catching encodings right now

08:55:21 adlai: ;;nethash

08:55:22 gribble: 770518178.742

08:55:48 adlai: where'd it all go? did mickey sell his miners too?

08:58:08 *: adlai clarifies http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370823 : http://dpaste.com/2AKWGVC.txt aka "experiments in positive-sum crowdfunding"

08:58:08 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:04:24; adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-12-2015#1341098 << books must be written one prop at a time

08:58:11 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J6p5Du )

09:30:21 adlai: in other tweets, https://twitter.com/ProBirdRights/status/687837368204668929

10:00:26 punkman: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/01/14/nhtsa-detroit-auto-show-autonomous-vehicles/78792868/

10:00:27 assbot: Obama administration ready to put $4B toward self-driving cars ... ( http://bit.ly/1Om1OMD )

10:03:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00050999 = 1.1291 BTC [+]

10:19:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5621 @ 0.00050999 = 2.8667 BTC [+]

10:30:51 mircea_popescu: fresh from the... cupines. "I'm obese, but you are hilarious!"

10:34:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7314 @ 0.00050608 = 3.7015 BTC [-] {3}

10:37:32 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370649 << you are very much correct, upon meditation. mike hearn is pretty much the amir taaki of 2014-2015.

10:37:32 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 01:52:40; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yes, but I can only ever name one at a time and never specify and ordering lest I jinx the list. This is still feeling now like an alt universe version of 2012-2013

10:38:17 mircea_popescu: as a sign of bitcoin's progress in the intervening coupla years, the amir taaki v2.0 can marginally spell, and in a very flat, vulgar manner express himself in writing.

10:44:08 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370666 << more like a magical dildo.

10:44:08 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 02:59:31; asciilifeform: (do we need a magical flute to make this work ?)

10:47:47 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370672 << omfg bb got credited with maddox111!

10:47:47 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:16:57; asciilifeform: http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sexism_videogames << mega-l0l from BingoBoingo's link

10:50:59 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370682 << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carrying around a fucking pile of tiny l

10:50:59 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:20:29; asciilifeform: i suppose height of my career was as a penniless student: 1 key

10:50:59 mircea_popescu: ittle almost-identical keys.

10:52:12 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370688 << herpitty derp, maybe at some point idjit in question learns what the key feature of CRYPTOworld is.

10:52:12 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:35:18; adlai: actual quote from meatwot-pope: "if somebody executes a death warrant against somebody trying to improve bitcoin, i'll fund and execute one against them myself" (don't judge him, he's prone to angry outbursts)

10:54:11 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370692 << i would much prefer a good warrant officer in a career of warrant officer than fucking around the internets trying to "find [the true] himself" because his delusions of success make it look like anything other than BEING GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO.

10:54:11 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 03:45:33; adlai: this is why people who wish for success in life don't go into warrant officer carreers, or even avoid .mil altogether

10:54:30 mircea_popescu: i've known tramps more successful in life than the sort of pointless idiots that come out of "ivy league".

10:54:50 mircea_popescu: this because the tramps were tramps, whereas pressed shit doth not intellectual makes.

10:59:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00050999 = 3.5189 BTC [+]

11:01:50 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370727 << is this Carolyn Burnham's archnemesis ?

11:01:50 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 04:06:12; BingoBoingo: I could not do it alone. I had to turn my will and life over to my higher power, Brodin the Allspotter.

11:02:55 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370732 << "overnight success usually takes 20 years" or how did that go.

11:02:55 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 04:07:00; AdrianG: things got more interesting recently with all these blocksizes

11:08:46 mircea_popescu: "The decision was made to pull from our profits to fill these wallets back up over time, thus attempting to avert complete closure of the website at that time. "

11:08:47 mircea_popescu: oh i see.

11:11:53 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370766 << btcalpha will have it tomorrow.

11:11:53 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 04:42:22; adlai: seeing as AdrianG did not !register in-channel, we now notice that post-gribble asswot has no way of publicly conjuring public-keyring contents

11:13:09 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370778 << do not put comas after urls.

11:13:09 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 05:04:19; adlai: ;;later tell dub re: comment in https://archive.is/aLk6f, you omit the reason why this is an excellent s-pass filter: technical barriers to entry leave low-content photons behind. cf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369512

11:27:59 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes Do so (this is not a GPG guide), << Do so (<a href=http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/~lockhart/gpg/gpg-cs.htmlGPG guide</a>), ?

11:31:32 mircea_popescu: hehe check that out, dub got repelled by the antiuniversalist nature of the new democracy. turns out he was right : the citostatic has prevented tumours (doublespoken as "the channel") from growing. it has however not prevented the list of our accomplishments from growing, which was exactly the fucking point. we don't want more people, and we sure as fuck don't want "all the people". we just want a larger share of ever

11:31:33 mircea_popescu: ything good to flow to ~these~ people, and for it to constantly enlarge. that is all.

11:31:39 mircea_popescu: universalism is for nematodes.

11:32:23 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "Updated: 1/14/2014" << are you from the past ?

11:40:24 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370800 << this is actually not a bad application of the dicelist. course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets.

11:40:24 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 05:27:50; pete_dushenski: ered houses. Moreover the three word addresses are available not just in English but in French, Spanish, Portuguese, Swahili, Russian, German, Turkish and Swedish with more languages on the way. The addresses in other languages are not translations but unique 3 word addresses in those languages."

11:40:53 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370802 << yes but they don't want that, because much like everything else spawned by usg, they want you to need them.

11:40:53 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 05:31:25; ben_vulpes: one of my favorite parts of addresses is how they indicate relative proximity to someone who knows the map

11:41:28 mircea_popescu: think dns, if getting other websites i like would be as easy as adding 1 to "fraudsters.com"...

11:41:42 mircea_popescu: but of course you can't SIMPLY ADD STRINGS NUMERICALLY right ? :D

11:49:41 punkman: course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets. << their android sdk has all the data/code needed to run your own actually

11:51:03 mircea_popescu: there is exactly 0 possibility that one tries to heysteve and is not rentseeking.

11:51:17 mircea_popescu: strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little.

11:52:06 mircea_popescu: which is why your parents calling you joe is a fundamentally different activity from the girl at the bar saying "hey stud" or the dudes threatened thereby going "hey loser".

11:56:08 punkman: myeah disregard my comment "Our goal is for what3words to become a global standard for communicating location. At the moment, the core what3words algorithms and data are not in the public domain. In the future, we may release some or all of our source code – we will continually evaluate the business case for doing this."

11:56:49 mircea_popescu: heh

11:57:03 mircea_popescu: the "business case", right ?

11:57:21 mircea_popescu: like google's been evaluating the "business case" for not being evil.

12:05:25 mircea_popescu: timothy b lee > wants to write about bitcoin > is not in #bitcoin-assets >wonders why he can't make sense of anything.

12:05:28 mircea_popescu: gg jurnos!

12:07:52 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370901 << yeah srsly. there's a fucking reason there's diesel-electric train engines.

12:07:52 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:37:05; ben_vulpes: but that low end torque!

12:08:30 shinohai: ;;blocks

12:08:31 gribble: 393413

12:08:32 mircea_popescu: for applications where the low end of the torque curve is what pays the bills, it is actually worth to generate electricity and run an electric engine rather than run a straight combustion engine arrangement

12:08:45 shinohai: I am at 391667 finally

12:08:55 mircea_popescu: but try and explain it to the ustardian weabos that they are solving an imagined problem with the exactly anti-adequate tools.

12:09:05 mircea_popescu: heh almost there shinohai wd.

12:10:06 shinohai: patience

12:10:23 shinohai: Mine hath been tested.

12:10:44 mircea_popescu: how long did this take ?

12:11:09 shinohai: 3 months? Running for first time with -verifyall

12:12:28 mircea_popescu: my 3 week old node is at 332425

12:12:56 shinohai: I dunno mod6 told me it was normal

12:13:30 mircea_popescu: yeah, it is. this is a slightly beefier machine

12:13:31 shinohai: So i just let it chug along. It's running on a shitty board tbh

12:16:33 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370904 << in truth, engine miniaturization has proceeded to the point where this product would be marketable : a 4x4 "true" SUV with a pick-up truck option that has a 2-3 liter gasoline engine with a gpl add-on (so you can run it either on full gasoline, or do gasoline starting and run on gas) that autoswitches from powering the drive train to powering an electric engine

12:16:33 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:38:58; pete_dushenski: the thing is, electric cars have to optimise aero. in the gm 'hybrid' pick-ups, the heinous 'aero' front lip spoilers completely negated the ground clearance, and therefore much of the appeal of trucks in the first place

12:16:33 mircea_popescu: to power the drive train function of torque draw. and just for the marketing, put optional TRACK kit on the list.

12:16:47 mircea_popescu: make it 3-4 tons, damned thing could pretty much climb straight up a wall.

12:16:54 mircea_popescu: definitely could pull a us-style house.

12:17:13 mircea_popescu: there clearly exists a market for $100k cars, and this wouldn't take that to make.

12:17:16 shinohai: !s http://gk2.sk/lets-build-a-freedom-node/

12:17:17 assbot: Let's build a Freedom Node · Pavol Rusnak ... ( http://bit.ly/1JMYVFO )

12:17:18 assbot: 2 results for 'http://gk2.sk/lets-build-a-freedom-node/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fgk2.sk%2Flets-build-a-freedom-node%2F

12:17:22 mircea_popescu: bring back hardened steel bodies, etc.

12:17:40 shinohai: oh yeah searched that already

12:18:54 shinohai: ^ advocates running XT, Tor

12:19:10 mircea_popescu: have all the good ads for it : take it to a skating rink, pour water up to the axles, watch it freeze, then climb, ignition and just go.

12:19:21 mircea_popescu: shinohai just tell the guy to come hiar.

12:21:17 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370921 << they "had to get the economy out of the slump". and so they... TARP'd the whole country.

12:21:17 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:45:30; ben_vulpes: fucking interstate highway project. greatest goddamn misstep.

12:21:43 mircea_popescu: to bureaucrat's credit, it must be pointed out that this time around they learned from those mistakes of the past and DIDNT spend on infrastructure. just gave the money off to the banks free and clear.

12:22:19 mircea_popescu: of course, to their discredit they still didn't figure out what the COMPLETE correction to their existence is. just went from "doing something stupid" to "not doing anything". the "how about you stop existing at all" thing is too hard.

12:24:09 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370931 << word. i never gave a shit about the entire http://fraudsters.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/ "boats are the place" bullshit.

12:24:09 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:48:31; BingoBoingo: The GM hybrid trucks were far more popular for being portable generators than for their hybrid drive, which almost never actually... drove the trucks

12:24:10 assbot: NSFW Gradina Edenului on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UUbpvI )

12:24:55 mircea_popescu: then one day power was out and suddenly... "wait, isn't that 240 HP engine backed by a full electric generator ? that could do up to 240 HP aka 180 kW ?

12:26:06 mircea_popescu: (in the end it could only do about 110, but that's... still enough)

12:28:40 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370954 << they export plenty, all through twitter &c

12:28:40 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 07:10:57; ben_vulpes: "But the idea of buying ocean freight is far less appealing for U.S. companies selling on the Amazon Marketplace. " << you don't fucking say i'm pretty sure i learned during the alcoa saga that nobody exports from the states any more

12:29:30 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370965 << and it's not a news site, it's radio erevan.

12:29:30 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 07:17:12; ben_vulpes: anyways, it's not amazon, it's amazon cn, and they're not buying boats, they're operating as a freight forwarder.

12:30:43 mircea_popescu: ;;nethash

12:30:43 gribble: 765883451.143

12:30:47 mircea_popescu: lol aww

12:31:15 mircea_popescu: we're going to see a negative correction here for fucking once.

12:31:18 mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats

12:31:21 gribble: Current Blocks: 393414 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1721 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 15 hours, 48 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

13:49:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00050415 = 2.1174 BTC [-] {2}

13:59:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00050943 = 1.6302 BTC [+] {2}

14:02:23 thestringpuller: interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition"

14:21:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050942 = 1.5283 BTC [-] {2}

14:30:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00050299 = 3.0682 BTC [-] {4}

14:37:47 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371111 <<< a truce?

14:37:47 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 14:02:23; thestringpuller: interesting rumor I heard. Gavin when teaming up with the Toomim's told them "who the opposition really was" and they want a #b-a blessing now..."convince the opposition"

14:38:27 davout: mircea_popescu: plz to x.eur

14:40:33 pete_dushenski: ;;ticker

14:40:34 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 390.92, Best ask: 390.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 390.83, 24 hour volume: 73577.19043617, 24 hour low: 385.03, 24 hour high: 432.57, 24 hour vwap: None

14:40:56 pete_dushenski: -10% overnight eh

14:41:16 pete_dushenski: must be all the block size controversy

14:41:37 pete_dushenski: "mass adoption will never happen without consensus u guise !!!1"

14:42:14 mircea_popescu: on it davout

14:42:41 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1370438 << never forget ryan selkis >> http://www.contravex.com/2014/05/16/who-sucks-more-circle-or-twobitidiot/

14:42:41 assbot: Logged on 14-01-2016 21:56:37; mircea_popescu: anyone remember "twobitidiot" ? no, because today it's "toomim brothers". bla bla, whatevs.

14:42:42 assbot: Who Sucks More, Circle or TwoBitIdiot? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2PktT )

14:42:55 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski eh, teh usg herps will try and as per usual fail to enact their mattering in the history of the world as recorded by its current sovereign, bitcoin.

14:43:42 pete_dushenski: quite so.

14:44:08 pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, 5 trb v99999 nodez !, https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99

14:44:10 assbot: Network Snapshot - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1PeJp6j )

14:44:49 pete_dushenski: ^includes, yes, tevye

14:45:17 pete_dushenski: cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches !

14:46:51 pete_dushenski: tevye's currently cruising at 18 connex while using ~350 mb memory. this is down from 50+ connex and 2 gb memory

14:47:16 shinohai: O.o

14:49:19 mircea_popescu: nice.

14:58:04 pete_dushenski: "Dow briefly plunges 400 points after data, oil rout" << looks like it's 'sell the farm' day. wti under $30 too.

14:58:41 mircea_popescu: sell the farm to buy what ?

14:59:06 pete_dushenski: magic beans, just like jack.

14:59:18 mircea_popescu: aok

15:00:32 pete_dushenski: or mebbe pay off loans before yellen cranks the pain plan ratchet again ?

15:01:55 pete_dushenski: obligatory pain plan piece : http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/10/inb4-the-pain-plan/

15:01:57 assbot: Inb4 the pain plan. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2Shuk )

15:02:55 pete_dushenski: "General Electric Co said it would sell its appliance business to China's Haier Group for $5.4 billion in cash, another step in its push to sell its non-core assets and project itself as a technology company." << here's where the chinese money is going.

15:03:42 mircea_popescu: non core, right.

15:03:48 mircea_popescu: GM Classic.

15:04:10 pete_dushenski: "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !"

15:04:59 pete_dushenski: "For Haier, the deal means ownership of a century-old appliance business that makes refrigerators, freezers, clothes washers and dryers across brands such as Monogram, Café, Profile and Artistry. The business trails only Whirlpool Corp in the U.S. white goods market and reported revenue of $5.9 billion last year." << mega-non-core.

15:08:06 mircea_popescu: davout http://dpaste.com/1C0H70B

15:08:09 assbot: dpaste: 1C0H70B ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2TgL8 )

15:09:16 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski the truth is that "butterism" or however you say in english the chinese concept equivalent to the mexican "malinchismo" ensures that a chinese corp is in the best position to make money from otherwise defunct us brands.

15:11:43 mod6: <+pete_dushenski> cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches ! << glad you got it working, Sir. =]

15:12:09 mircea_popescu: ain't mod6 a total pleasure to work with ?

15:12:58 mod6: awe, thx!

15:13:09 mod6: PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved!

15:13:21 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag

15:14:18 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: that he is indeed

15:14:36 pete_dushenski: !s butterism

15:14:37 assbot: 0 results for 'butterism' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=butterism

15:14:48 pete_dushenski: !s malinchismo

15:14:48 assbot: 0 results for 'malinchismo' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=malinchismo

15:15:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 0.42679334 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 8 satoshi per share

15:15:18 mircea_popescu: dee

15:15:23 pete_dushenski: those are new terms for me too

15:15:24 mircea_popescu: hmm no deedbot ? trinque ? :)

15:15:28 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371145 << Nothing Sucks Like Electrolux! (tm) (r) (actual)

15:15:28 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 15:04:10; pete_dushenski: "The deal comes weeks after GE walked away from a deal to sell the business to Sweden's Electrolux for $3.3 billion, following months of opposition from U.S. antitrust regulators." << "we chineese, we no kaya hao much amewikan beezneez cost. we want buy nao !"

15:15:41 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski they reference the smell of butter of people who eat in the western fashion

15:15:56 mircea_popescu: as milk products are virtually unknown in the mud eating empire.

15:18:32 pete_dushenski: funny

15:18:43 pete_dushenski: bbias

15:20:04 ascii_butugychag: l0ltr0nic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10902008 (subthread)

15:20:05 assbot: theo must be mad. Shaming people for leaving useless non essential feature in t... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2Vg6f )

15:20:50 mircea_popescu: anyway. every slut eventually reaches that sad zenith point so aptly described by the celebrated Elvira Bulumac : http://fraudsters.com/2012/literatura-la-prima-ora-sau-capitolul-i/#selection-59.1-59.20

15:20:51 assbot: Literatura la prima ora, sau Capitolul I on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2Vom7 )

15:22:35 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag why am i reading "sfjulie" ?

15:23:00 thestringpuller: !up pete_dushenski

15:23:05 trinque: mircea_popescu: thanks!

15:23:05 thestringpuller: !up PeterL

15:23:09 mircea_popescu: the woman has no idea what she's talking about nor any appreciation of what having an idea even is or why'd it be desirable.

15:23:09 ascii_butugychag: linked for entomological reasons

15:23:25 mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/07ZM70V

15:23:26 assbot: dpaste: 07ZM70V ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2VPwS )

15:23:26 deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.

15:23:26 ascii_butugychag: something like mircea_popescu's specimens from okc

15:23:32 mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/07ZM70V.txt

15:23:33 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2VOc0 )

15:23:34 deedbot-: accepted: 1

15:23:45 mircea_popescu: ic.

15:25:33 mod6: <+mod6> PeterL: Hey, glad you got it resolved! << should have put this in a later tell, sorry.

15:27:59 mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/1JCZHZY.txt

15:28:00 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q2WvCd )

15:28:01 deedbot-: accepted: 1

15:28:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 146.34965138 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 29 satoshi per share

15:28:39 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371101 << l0lz!! am i the only one who gets this ref

15:28:39 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 12:29:30; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370965 << and it's not a news site, it's radio erevan.

15:28:44 ascii_butugychag: maybe phf too.

15:29:08 ascii_butugychag: and hey what happened to the other orks ? dignork ?

15:30:14 mircea_popescu: they were sold to the chinese conglomerate lusski for 5.5 bn.

15:33:23 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371097 << hitler's yacht was a diesel-electric thing and was taken as a spoil; after the war, it powered a good chunk of odessa, for a while, iirc

15:33:23 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 12:24:55; mircea_popescu: then one day power was out and suddenly... "wait, isn't that 240 HP engine backed by a full electric generator ? that could do up to 240 HP aka 180 kW ?

15:33:23 mircea_popescu: can fit a lotta 20w lightbulbs in 100kw

15:33:23 ascii_butugychag: aha

15:48:55 mircea_popescu: neways.

15:49:11 mircea_popescu: i haven't seen a new car model i liked in 20 years.

15:49:24 ascii_butugychag: !s the best car

15:49:25 assbot: 8 results for 'the best car' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+best+car

15:49:44 ascii_butugychag: (is... staying home)

15:50:14 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371082 << the lulzy bit is that i have a node going on EXACTLY THAT machine

15:50:14 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 12:17:16; shinohai: !s http://gk2.sk/lets-build-a-freedom-node/

15:50:54 ascii_butugychag: it is starvation-cheap, for a fanless pentium thing, and mostly runs

15:51:19 shinohai: so it wouldn't be a waste of money to buy one for node purposes

15:51:27 ascii_butugychag: i don't recommend it

15:51:50 ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower

15:52:05 ascii_butugychag: and you can put linuxbios on it

15:52:12 ascii_butugychag: unlike the intel turd

15:53:45 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371072 << this is probably not surprising to anyone who's been paying attention, but a trb node that isn't up to current height won't relay any tx that involves blocks not yet seen

15:53:45 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 12:12:28; mircea_popescu: my 3 week old node is at 332425

15:54:02 ascii_butugychag: this is not a bug.

15:54:38 ascii_butugychag: but it does mean that a trb node is largely useless until fully synced.

15:55:35 thestringpuller: LOL. Coinbase exhcange pulls a Gox due to volatility!

15:55:53 ascii_butugychag: wai wut

15:55:58 mircea_popescu: ie "we were trading while insolvent, which is a crime, except for usg agencies"

15:56:26 thestringpuller: "oinbase Exchange is currently experiencing an outage, we are investigating and hope to have it back online soon." << They say it's "technical diffculties" either way, the exchange went down due to high volume trading.

15:56:32 thestringpuller: straight up Gox.

15:56:50 ascii_butugychag: ;;goxlag

15:56:50 gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.

15:57:04 ascii_butugychag: l0l

15:57:38 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371044 << reminds me, more than anything, of... urbit

15:57:38 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 11:40:24; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370800 << this is actually not a bad application of the dicelist. course the rent seeking behaviour entwined in it all is as disgusting as it gets.

16:00:03 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371052 << largely yes. though i can thing of, e.g., astronomers naming comets, etc

16:00:03 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 11:51:17; mircea_popescu: strictly the only reason you might try to name things you don't own is your hope to steal a little.

16:01:08 mircea_popescu: yeah, right. to quote : "E, se Vostra Magnificenzia dallo apice della sua altezza qualche volta volger? li occhi in questi luoghi bassi, conoscer? quanto io indegnamente sopporti una grande e continua malignit? di fortuna."

16:01:20 mircea_popescu: from http://fraudsters.com/2010/cartile-au-murit/#selection-59.0-59.197 which did you ever read btw ?

16:01:21 assbot: Cartile au murit, on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1n0JBL8 )

16:01:54 ascii_butugychag: lulzily, unrelatedly, i warmed up engine at the crack of dawn, to head to the trains, and turned on radio, '...france demands regulation of terrorist finances, such as the use of virtual currencies, such as bitcoins...'

16:02:33 mircea_popescu: herp derp.

16:03:04 mircea_popescu: fat child rapist put his hand in an old pillow and is now talking to himself ? fu bahamas.

16:05:44 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370988 << congrats jurov !

16:05:44 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 08:10:56; jurov: with great sadness i have to announce that now it does not even mutilate filenames

16:08:18 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370878 << from the total and utter lack of anything like a wot marketplace for any thing i use whatsoever, i am stuck in heathendom (e.g., 'ebay') entirely

16:08:18 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:32:19; ben_vulpes: although asciilifeform probably does the sme thing with esoteric computer hardware. how would i know...

16:08:23 ascii_butugychag: this was discussed on multiple occasions.

16:09:10 ascii_butugychag: many times i tried to buy something via otc, it was a sad joke every time

16:10:42 mircea_popescu: sadly.

16:11:43 ascii_butugychag: which is interesting, because - before there even was 'ebay' - as a kid, i would buy/sell exotic hardware via usenet

16:11:48 ascii_butugychag: and there were takers

16:12:06 ascii_butugychag: whereas today, what little remains is corralled

16:12:07 thestringpuller: OTC devolved into madness pretty quickly. Paranoid everyone is a scammer.

16:12:29 thestringpuller: albeit the birthplace of the WoT

16:12:51 mircea_popescu: heh. to quote, "This is stupid way to adjust SNR for a few reasons not least that it is already solved in the IRC protocol. Chanops are a group of people the founder trusts sufficiently to regulate the conversation, deal with bad actors and operate the channel in the manner he intends. Kind of like a web of trust without the numerous failures this bullshit introduces. Default deny will prevent the channel from growing,

16:12:54 mircea_popescu: will not deflect a motivated attack, while adding a handful of SPOFs, risks and annoyance."

16:12:56 mircea_popescu: clearly the stupid model worked.

16:13:24 ascii_butugychag: where was this

16:13:39 mircea_popescu: not only it created powerful with a view to almighty enemies for the "well intentioned" idiots engaging in that nonsense, but also it... fell over, burned and then sunk into the swamp.

16:13:46 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html

16:13:47 assbot: #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ok73wh )

16:14:19 ascii_butugychag: wtf is a 'SPOF'

16:14:27 mircea_popescu: single point of failure.

16:14:28 mircea_popescu: as if.

16:14:41 pete_dushenski: huh. logs are missing everything from "re: other nazi yachts, lulzy oldie" to "while supplies last - with identical crud; etc"

16:14:56 ascii_butugychag: assbot was out

16:15:08 pete_dushenski: so he was

16:16:43 ascii_butugychag: who was dub anyway

16:16:48 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you can't really put a real engine in the composite shits. << what "composite shits" are these ? most high-end cars have carbon-fibre tubs and 600hp+ turbocharged engines with 500lb ft+ of torque

16:17:11 pete_dushenski: seem to hold us quite nicely in fact

16:17:36 pete_dushenski: pagani even has proprietary titanium-reinforced carbon fibre. very nifty.

16:18:22 mircea_popescu: how much does a 600hp turbocharged engine wiht 500lb ft of torque cost ?

16:18:49 pete_dushenski: probably 50-70k

16:19:00 pete_dushenski: as part of a 300k car

16:19:17 ascii_butugychag: why not also include the cost of the law school tuition and the whores

16:19:17 pete_dushenski: you can buy such power from "domestics" for 20-30k

16:19:26 ascii_butugychag: engine per se is prolly south of 10k

16:19:27 mircea_popescu: so 300k car. what happens if i attach that 300k car to a street pole and go ful lthrothle in the ist ?

16:20:11 pete_dushenski: probably wheel spin

16:20:55 mircea_popescu: right. so the idea was that you could market a 100k real suv/pick up with 4k lbft torque, which if so attached would pull the light out and drag it with two yards' worth of sidewalk and the parked cars.

16:21:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3888 @ 0.00050189 = 1.9513 BTC [-]

16:21:13 mircea_popescu: and in spite of being able to pull train cars / tanks / your house, iut would still do ok on the freeway.

16:21:23 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: these exist, are called bulldozer ?

16:21:38 mircea_popescu: bulldozer is straight. this would be electric.

16:21:54 ascii_butugychag: large mining trucks and bulldozers are presently diesel-electric

16:21:56 ascii_butugychag: we even had'em in su

16:22:02 mircea_popescu: exacflty my fucking point omfg!

16:22:07 ascii_butugychag: aha, ancient tech

16:24:24 ascii_butugychag: but the CORRECT way to do these is to throw out the transmission box and have 1 electric motor per wheel.

16:25:04 ascii_butugychag: (you win on efficiency, cost, and also get the regenerative brake thing)

16:25:25 ascii_butugychag: but, to borrow an uncleal-ism, 'But It Would Be Wrong'

16:26:31 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370918 << ever since dc metro put in human drivers again into most of the trains, the thing brakes 10 times, lurches, nauseating

16:26:31 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 06:43:30; pete_dushenski: trains also don't accelerate and decelerate as quickly or as frequently

16:28:21 mircea_popescu: i have no idea what the correct way would be, but i envisaged an auto-transfer arrangement, where the engine powers the drive train except if torque pull gets too strong in which case it kicks off and electric engine takes over

16:28:28 mircea_popescu: they'd have to basically be pooled and work together

16:28:40 ascii_butugychag: nah that's what they do ~now~

16:28:41 ascii_butugychag: and it sucks

16:28:52 pete_dushenski: ascii_butugychag: ford and vw (with usg/'protean') are working on just that : in-wheel electric motors

16:28:53 ascii_butugychag: because you're paying for that transmission being there at all

16:29:21 mircea_popescu: you want exactly what the market wants : a truck with good highway behaviour.

16:29:26 mircea_popescu: so yes, you'e paying. what of it.

16:29:36 pete_dushenski: http://www.proteanelectric.com/

16:29:38 assbot: Protean Electric | Protean Electric ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKUa2u )

16:30:01 mircea_popescu: meh it looks like a pos.

16:30:14 pete_dushenski: !up peterl

16:30:27 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: usg. waddyawant.

16:30:27 mircea_popescu: http://www.paxtonauto.com/images/CCTP-070500-NOLIMIT-1.jpg < this is closer to what you want.

16:30:29 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKUnCN )

16:30:36 pete_dushenski: ha!!

16:30:42 PeterL: hi, trying to build trb, anybody want to help me figure out what is wrong? http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d0592532-07b7-468e-a913-988919c58f5b/

16:30:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKUoXr )

16:31:14 mircea_popescu: See `config.log' for more details. << what's that say PeterL ?

16:31:36 ascii_butugychag: fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory

16:31:43 ascii_butugychag: whatcha building on? nintendo ?

16:31:55 mircea_popescu: so far it looks like you don't have a working compiler basically

16:32:05 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag xubuntu iirc.

16:32:07 pete_dushenski: bbl

16:32:15 ascii_butugychag: checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no

16:32:20 ascii_butugychag: xubuntu went clang ?!!

16:32:23 mircea_popescu: yes.

16:32:33 PeterL: aha, do I need to switch to a different compiler?

16:32:52 ascii_butugychag: yes.

16:32:53 ascii_butugychag: gcc.

16:33:39 ascii_butugychag: (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes)

16:34:20 ascii_butugychag: clang/llvm is well-suited for vivisection, and gcc is, unfortunately (see old threads re: why) is not

16:34:53 mircea_popescu: i recall maybe ben_vulpes toying with this at some point ?

16:34:58 ascii_butugychag: possibly

16:35:12 ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/15_defend-the-world-trashers-at-the-expense-of-those-doing-their-tiny-damndest-and-lets-see-where-that-gets-you.html << i think deedbot- mised this one

16:35:13 assbot: Defend the world-trashers at the expense of those doing their tiny damndest, and lets see where that gets you ... ( http://bit.ly/1n0N6kX )

16:35:17 ascii_butugychag: !s from:ben_vulpes clang

16:35:18 assbot: 4 results for 'from:ben_vulpes clang' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aben_vulpes+clang

16:36:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3985 @ 0.00050183 = 1.9998 BTC [-]

16:37:10 ben_vulpes: oh i'm sure i did at some point, i have a bad windmill mabit

16:37:32 ben_vulpes: *habit

16:39:51 mircea_popescu: so basically to go through portland in relative safety one needs a half dozen fascia bearers to bullwhip a whole horde of plebs away enough to form a path.

16:40:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050183 = 1.1542 BTC [-]

16:40:49 ascii_butugychag: l0l ben_vulpes with lictors

16:41:02 ascii_butugychag: then what do i need, tank column ??

16:41:32 mircea_popescu: why do you think it's by the you ? it's by the them.

16:41:35 mircea_popescu: you need the same.

16:42:31 ascii_butugychag: http://bikeportland.org/2014/02/21/parks-works-to-clear-large-encampment-on-springwater-corridor-101898 << we don't have this here

16:42:32 assbot: Parks bureau works to clear large encampment on Springwater Corridor - BikePortland.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKWZAz )

16:42:38 ascii_butugychag: (did, for a while. it was called 'occupy')

16:44:09 ben_vulpes: related lolz that didn't make it in

16:44:39 ben_vulpes: there are twenty feet of tarpaulined hoarder-pile stacked along 20th avenue, just outside the aforementioned col. summers park

16:45:00 ben_vulpes: the parks department won't touch it because it's not in the park proper

16:45:10 ben_vulpes: and the cops won't touch it because "be nice to the homeless!"

16:45:19 ascii_butugychag: 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent

16:45:25 ascii_butugychag: ence describes rent-seekers as well as hobos

16:45:47 mircea_popescu: how are hobos not rent seekers ?

16:45:55 mircea_popescu: they're the paradigmatic rent seeker.

16:46:03 ascii_butugychag: hobo is small change

16:46:08 ag3nt_zer0: good morning b-a

16:46:09 mircea_popescu: what exactly is the difference between "politician"? and hobo ? student ? etc.

16:46:12 mircea_popescu: ello

16:46:14 ascii_butugychag: scale.

16:46:25 mircea_popescu: scale is not a difference.

16:46:39 thestringpuller: there is no difference?

16:47:36 ben_vulpes: small pineapple, large pineapple, should not matter when sitting. idem broomsticks prolly.

16:48:16 mircea_popescu: cunt fits all sizes.

16:48:17 ascii_butugychag: idk, even tepes was said to have used multiple calibers of stake, on a case by case basis

16:48:38 mircea_popescu: but i look forward to you learned men and your treatises of medicine discussing tuberculosis remedies by scale.

16:48:50 mircea_popescu: "if it's a big tuberculosis, drink coffee. if it is still small, drink tea!"

16:49:15 ben_vulpes: cancer has scalar treatments, non?

16:49:34 mircea_popescu: nope.

16:49:34 ben_vulpes: "maybe this" and "nop"

16:49:45 ascii_butugychag: scale exists for all. small boil? knife. gangrenous leg? saw.

16:49:50 mircea_popescu: that incidentally is a very informative field of study for he who aims to be a better systems expert : cancer cures.

16:50:29 mircea_popescu: the criteria for operability are very strictly given. for instance pancreatic cancer : has it touched the fat planes protecting the mesenteric vessels ?

16:50:54 mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of scale except to the layman. it is a matter of very alphabetical lists of things, for the professional.

16:51:12 *: ben_vulpes nods

16:51:21 ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, i got an entire night of sleep last night

16:51:27 mircea_popescu: heretic.

16:51:35 mircea_popescu: !excomunicate ben_vulpes

16:51:36 ascii_butugychag: mega-respekt

16:51:49 ben_vulpes: *and* the girl is sick.

16:51:57 ben_vulpes: *and* the child may be getting it as well.

16:52:07 ben_vulpes: ifni rolled me a good one.

16:52:43 mircea_popescu: ;;ud ifni

16:52:43 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Ifni | Despite the urgency of escalating health care costs, there seems to be a slackidemic among those in power preventing any meaningful action from being taken.

16:52:55 mircea_popescu: what ?!

16:53:51 ben_vulpes: hipster goddes of luck, aka lady infity, lady limit

16:54:19 ben_vulpes: has domain over chance, mean reversion

16:54:27 thestringpuller: ;;nethash

16:54:27 gribble: 768156022.097

16:54:43 ben_vulpes: statistically unlikely events and i guess vanity addresses

16:54:49 thestringpuller: ;;calc 768156022.097 * 0.005

16:54:49 gribble: 3840780.11049

16:56:31 mircea_popescu: !s nethash

16:56:32 assbot: 519 results for 'nethash' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nethash

16:57:35 mircea_popescu: 27/12 : gribble: 837554982.002 ; 13/1 gribble: 886485320.427 ; 15/1 : 12:30:43 gribble: 765883451.143

17:00:24 thestringpuller: i think gribble is miscalculating

17:00:31 thestringpuller: ;;gentime 768156022.097

17:00:33 gribble: The average time to generate a block at 768156022.097 Mhps, given difficulty of 1.13354299801e+11, is 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 3 minutes, and 24 seconds

17:01:06 mircea_popescu: uh

17:01:18 mircea_popescu: you missed a 0

17:02:08 thestringpuller: aha!

17:02:25 thestringpuller: ;;nethash help

17:02:25 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so what's the rest of that shaking ny black dude hands story ?

17:02:25 gribble: (nethash takes no arguments) -- Shows the current estimate for total network hash rate, in Ghps.

17:02:31 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371131 << what was so hard about these

17:02:31 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 14:45:17; pete_dushenski: cheers to mod6 for his assistance in applying stan's last two patches !

17:03:02 mircea_popescu: not all intercourse is fucking to require something hard to get it started, alfie!

17:03:07 mircea_popescu: sometimes people just like to cuddle.

17:03:37 ascii_butugychag: l0l

17:04:52 ascii_butugychag: lulzily i am using a keyboard at this minute that is only slightly bigger than a vhs tape

17:04:55 ascii_butugychag: but has full-sized keys

17:05:08 trinque: "happy hacker" ?

17:05:20 ascii_butugychag: trinque: variant thereof, but with arrows

17:05:45 ascii_butugychag: 'not from a good life'

17:05:55 ascii_butugychag: a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk.

17:09:21 ascii_butugychag: trinque: 'fc660c'

17:11:08 trinque: not a bad looking clacky

17:11:36 ascii_butugychag: actually it is extremely painful on account of missing f keys and home/end/pgup/pgdown

17:11:44 ascii_butugychag: but not as painful as the idiot crapple kbd

17:11:56 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk. <<as the world famous afanti once said, "don't laugh at chinese nopee girls lest you come to ride on their desks one day"

17:12:03 mircea_popescu: what the fuck are you doing, assembling ipads ?

17:12:22 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: nah, that'd be more merciful, doesn't need a keyboard...

17:12:58 mircea_popescu: am i a truly miserable character if the sufferances of the young wethers in my own party actually amuse me ?

17:13:42 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: sometimes people just like to cuddle << you ever try telling this to a shawty who just wanna fuck? doesn't go over well.

17:13:43 ascii_butugychag: the desk isn't even small. but the laptop and two hanging lcd occupy almost all of the width

17:14:16 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-40223 this shit's fucking epic

17:14:18 assbot: The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SmzVIg )

17:16:11 thestringpuller: what's so lulzy? that Gavin and Hearn tried to build a nuke and failed miserably like best korea. (where their solution to rockets is having 1000 north koreans fling the bomb over the ocean)

17:17:02 mircea_popescu: Mircea is free to attack the coming upgrade. He will fail, because "Bitcoin is not a reflection of Mircea's hopes and aspirations, but a check on them."

17:17:16 mircea_popescu: derps on a first name basis with me. perhaps on account of my having fucked their mothers or something, no idea.

17:18:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00050219 = 1.7326 BTC [+]

17:18:22 ascii_butugychag: so ben_vulpes why does xcode take multiple minutes to load a 37 byte 'xml' turd

17:18:54 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: It seems we are living in your Pointless and Witless hypothetical. That story didn't have a happy ending tho.

17:21:02 mircea_popescu: !up GoonClooney

17:21:35 mircea_popescu: didn't have an ending at all, mind.

17:22:28 thestringpuller: well pointless wasn't left with much optimism just, "Eventually I will lose to the witless."

17:23:33 mircea_popescu: that's not act6ually what it says.

17:24:59 thestringpuller: "Pointless : I guess sooner or later I'll lose, because idiocy has infinite hitpoints."

17:25:15 thestringpuller: I'm misinterpreting it then.

17:26:15 jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371019 ha! and i wondered what model these pesky keys in eulora follow

17:26:15 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 10:50:59; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370682 << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carrying around a fuc

17:27:19 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it could just as well be dude watching an insect burner thing going "i guess eventuallt it'll fill up"

17:27:33 mircea_popescu: jurov zing lol

17:29:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00050387 = 2.0155 BTC [+] {4}

17:29:43 thestringpuller: aha!

17:31:54 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371212 << Apparently pcengines is coming out with an APU2 board soon

17:31:54 assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 15:51:50; ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower

17:32:40 ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: out for years ?

17:32:42 thestringpuller: oh look KNC miner drops XT for Bitcoin Classic >> https://forum.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-discussion/an-open-letter-from-sam-cole-ceo-of-knc-miner-t4868.html

17:32:56 BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: No, just next iteration

17:33:06 ascii_butugychag: ah

17:34:08 ascii_butugychag: the pce apu is actually my favourite amd64 box of all time

17:34:18 ascii_butugychag: only marred by the soldered-down non-ecc ram

17:34:37 ascii_butugychag: but they actually publish schematics. you could even have your own made, somewhere.

17:34:55 ascii_butugychag: i don't know of any other mobo vendor which does this.

17:51:04 ascii_butugychag: !s http://sphincs.cr.yp.to

17:51:04 assbot: SPHINCS: Introduction ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTG9wS )

17:51:05 assbot: 1 results for 'http://sphincs.cr.yp.to' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fsphincs.cr.yp.to

18:05:48 trinque: "By saying "eliminate the state" we are advocating a security improvement, namely adopting signature schemes that do not need to record information after every signature. We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours!" << oh god

18:09:07 *: trinque tries to find that picture of guy with american flag planted in his ass, can't

18:09:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050198 = 1.5059 BTC [-] {4}

18:15:12 BingoBoingo: How the social engineering sausage is made

18:15:46 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/tSzC0

18:15:50 assbot: The ugly truth: Bitcoin is doomed and needs to be replaced : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTISGB )

18:16:21 jurov: https://goldstockbull.com/articles/gold-price-discovery-moving-to-china-in-april/ let's replace it by g0ld

18:16:23 assbot: China to Start Yuan-Based Gold Price Fix in April: Game Changer? - Gold Stock Bull ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTIVCf )

18:16:28 BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: I only found out about the APU2 because openbsd-misc has people occasionally derping about the unfinished firmware on the new one

18:16:49 ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally...

18:17:43 BingoBoingo: Seems the finishing is largegly being 'crowdsourced' but moves to quad core AMD kaveri chip if I recal correctly

18:18:29 mircea_popescu: trinque eliminating the wrong kind of state.

18:18:38 BingoBoingo: ;;google apu2 beta

18:18:39 gribble: PC-Engines APU2 | ServeTheHome and ServeThe.Biz Forums: https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/pc-engines-apu2.7269/; APU2 LED1-3 & Button Switch: Does anyone success on this?? - PC ...: http://www.pcengines.info/forums/?page=post&id=04F626C8-2589-4A60-89DD-43A1ACE70A6E&fid=DF5ACB70-99C4-4C61-AFA6-4C0E0DB05B2A; PC Engines support forum Home Page: (1 more message)

18:21:51 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Have you considered working on your crazy eyes and walking with a hand in your pocket?

18:22:46 mircea_popescu: jurov i have nfi why they imagine this is "discovery"

18:22:49 *: BingoBoingo amazed even the saner people from Portland seem have shortcomings in their orccraft

18:22:56 mircea_popescu: gold is afaik still illegal to hold for chinese private parties.

18:31:14 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

18:31:21 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 389.8, vol: 29585.42972196 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 391.891, vol: 16993.74283 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 393.67, vol: 85603.52985172 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 400.0, vol: 15.49699301 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 401.85145, vol: 66234.54240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 394.6899, vol: 389.28134557 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 392.2606, vol: 298.59608725 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

18:31:29 BingoBoingo: ;;more

18:31:30 gribble: 395.66497872

18:31:59 mircea_popescu: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15854930/how-do-you-use-stdsystem-error-with-getlasterror#comment49111206_15855015 << speaking of weirdo spam, check out this stuff lol.

18:32:00 assbot: c++ - How do you use std::system_error with GetLastError? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgiUcd )

18:32:12 BingoBoingo: Ah, this looks like great January correction. Fucking bizzaro history continues.

18:33:27 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what spam

18:33:37 mircea_popescu: that exsees link

18:33:54 ascii_butugychag: l0l!

18:34:03 mircea_popescu: !up bjezuz

18:35:01 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag then i read it carefully. notice how the whole thing makes no sense and there's actually visible lines where syntactic units were thrown together ?

18:35:17 ascii_butugychag: aha shannonizer

18:35:21 mircea_popescu: "ai", in the sense not of intelligence, but in the sense of "not distinguishable from average human".

18:35:33 ascii_butugychag: ancient tech, at this point

18:35:39 ascii_butugychag: even in spamland

18:35:46 mircea_popescu: this is better than most.

18:35:52 ascii_butugychag: how so ?

18:36:02 mircea_popescu: notice how high ranked the acct is in the site's own terms.

18:36:11 mircea_popescu: http://stackoverflow.com/users/845092/mooing-duck

18:36:11 assbot: User Mooing Duck - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1PgjsPj )

18:36:29 mircea_popescu: that's more than wikipedia spammers such as yourself accomplish!

18:36:44 ascii_butugychag: quite likely it is an 'imperium in imperio' upvote clique, elementarily

18:37:00 mircea_popescu: Compliments:

18:37:00 mircea_popescu: ThePhD: "To this day, MooingDuck has probably been the most helpful lounge person I've come across."

18:37:00 mircea_popescu: Dzek Trek: "@MooingDuck is the best teacher here. He explains everything in the way that just listeners want to hear."

18:37:00 mircea_popescu: Dan: You explain things fully and in a way that just makes sense to me.

18:37:29 mircea_popescu: notice that the [no doubt actual] google software engineer behind the crapolade is deeply aware of what the holes in the levies are.

18:38:07 ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: how would i know, i'm just a human compiler

18:38:22 ascii_butugychag: and i'm not seeing any obvious spamola in duck's other posts

18:38:32 ascii_butugychag: possibly 'paste fail' ?

18:38:42 mircea_popescu: because people go around with links to that in their pastes ?

18:39:16 ascii_butugychag: e.g., http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15235526/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c/15235626#15235626

18:39:17 assbot: The static keyword and its various uses in C++ - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTLAMi )

18:39:35 ascii_butugychag: looks like a perfectly legit summary

18:40:03 ascii_butugychag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8054273/how-to-implement-an-stl-style-iterator-and-avoid-common-pitfalls/8054856#8054856 << ditto

18:40:04 assbot: c++ - How to implement an STL-style iterator and avoid common pitfalls? - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTLHY5 )

18:40:07 mircea_popescu: http://www.virtualians.net/group/cs201-introduction-to-programming-lecture-wise-dis/forum/topics/cs201-introduction-to-programming-lecture-no-38-problems

18:40:15 mircea_popescu: http://html5.press/can+class+members+defined+outside+namespace+they+are+declared/

18:40:17 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTLKDq )

18:40:21 mircea_popescu: http://www.scriptscoop.net/t/7fdf7581e8e8/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c.html

18:40:31 mircea_popescu: all come up for a strict search for "static variables exist for the "lifetime" of the translation unit that it's defined in, and:"

18:40:39 ascii_butugychag: l0l!

18:40:43 mircea_popescu: aha ?

18:40:52 ascii_butugychag: if thing is a bot which cribs from www, it is a pretty good one

18:41:43 mircea_popescu: kinda what the original point was yes,

18:41:46 mircea_popescu: rather good "ai"

18:43:16 *: mircea_popescu enjoys an immense inflow of pesos now that btc has dropped a little, because hey, local idjits price by medieval methods.

18:43:38 ascii_butugychag: still seems like it could easily be a prolific and plagiaristic (e.g., east asian) human

18:43:43 mircea_popescu: ie, spread = volatility *2 + 15% or some shit.

18:43:48 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag kinda the point innit.

18:43:57 ascii_butugychag: mechanized coolie aha.

18:44:19 mircea_popescu: the "reddit experiment" is in full swing, even WE can't distinguish anymore.

18:44:33 ascii_butugychag: !s dead souls

18:44:34 assbot: 19 results for 'dead souls' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dead+souls

18:44:37 mircea_popescu: what change's a webified ustardian "computer science major" got.

18:44:50 ascii_butugychag: orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece

18:45:05 ascii_butugychag: but the tardatron is genuinely obsessed with making convincing faux ~lusers~

18:45:27 ascii_butugychag: because the real thing has various undesirable properties

18:45:54 ascii_butugychag: (fickleness, occupying physical space, needing food, etc)

18:46:23 ascii_butugychag: and for a great many purposes, spambots are at least as good as 'people'

18:47:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2284 @ 0.00050524 = 1.154 BTC [+]

18:48:31 mircea_popescu: actually, for all purposes. there is no sense in which a spambot is not a better "people" than a us citizen today.

18:49:06 ascii_butugychag: well, certain ceremonies still require warm bodies, but this is being worked on

18:49:12 *: mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human.

18:49:15 ascii_butugychag: and they are largely anachronisms anyway (e.g., vote)

18:49:32 mircea_popescu: vote is electronic now neh ?

18:49:41 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: semi-electronic

18:49:53 mircea_popescu: * mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human. << this, incidentally, why the write on tits is so important.

18:50:04 ascii_butugychag: but as of the 2004 election, there is NOT A PERMA-RECORD of particular votes

18:50:12 ascii_butugychag: that was more or less the end of the pretense

18:51:09 mircea_popescu: well, the pretense nigh on embarassed teh bushdom.

18:51:10 ascii_butugychag: i was, in those days, a foolish student, and actually went and picketed 'your vote doesn't count! literally!'

18:51:40 ascii_butugychag: 'diebold voted'

18:51:41 mircea_popescu: but you forget, ustardian doesn't want his "vote to count". he wants the ebt to keep showing up.

18:51:41 ascii_butugychag: etc

18:52:25 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: or his lockheed salary, aha

18:52:37 mircea_popescu: also ebt.

18:52:50 ascii_butugychag: but in point of fact there is no 'honest work' going on anywhere in usa, with possible exception of mafia hits etc

18:53:02 ascii_butugychag: ~everybody~ is in some way plugged in.

18:53:08 mircea_popescu: from what i hear mafia's pretty much a joke for years now

18:53:17 ascii_butugychag: well mexican narco or whatever is current

18:53:52 mircea_popescu: those, yes.

18:54:04 ascii_butugychag: i've never even personally sat more than 2 or so hops away from usg, payola-wise

18:55:22 ascii_butugychag: usa had 'palace economy' for my entire adult life

18:55:43 ascii_butugychag: like the inca empire.

18:56:28 mircea_popescu: and to think your parents moved specifically to avoid this fate for you.

18:56:47 ascii_butugychag: not precisely

18:56:51 mircea_popescu: ah

18:56:57 ascii_butugychag: moved because richer inca here than there

18:57:15 mircea_popescu: ah i see. with romanians it was a big deal "i want my kids to grow up free"

18:57:39 ascii_butugychag: by '92 it was pretty clear what 'phreeee' meant for most folks

18:57:55 mircea_popescu: lord almighty, is there no end of waitresses whose real passion is photography/music/blabla ?!

18:58:36 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what kind of answer do you expect them to give ? 'my real passion is mixing cement'

18:59:00 mircea_popescu: sometimes the only winning move is not to play.

18:59:14 ascii_butugychag: then why did mircea_popescu go to the playing room

18:59:19 ascii_butugychag: of course it is full of folks playing.

18:59:36 mircea_popescu: lol. i prolly should share this one, a sec.

18:59:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00050664 = 2.0772 BTC [+] {2}

19:01:42 mircea_popescu: incidentally : it seems my account on okcupid was briefly banned this monring, judging by how the script croaked

19:01:48 mircea_popescu: and by the apology letter in my inbox.

19:02:03 mircea_popescu: anyone ever heard of something like this befoar ?!

19:02:27 *: ascii_butugychag last saw okc more than a decade ago

19:02:36 mircea_popescu: also student ?

19:02:42 ascii_butugychag: aha

19:02:46 ascii_butugychag: it was a lulzy timewaster

19:02:55 ascii_butugychag: the character quiz thing, etc

19:02:58 mircea_popescu: quite. mechanized lulzextraction.

19:03:13 ascii_butugychag: (does it still have the 'what type of creature are you' thing?)

19:03:24 mircea_popescu: i dunno

19:03:30 mircea_popescu: i see it through lynx eyes

19:03:32 mircea_popescu: and some cat.

19:03:47 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/shorty-thinks-herself-cool.png << speaking of folks playing.

19:03:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pgnszc )

19:04:36 ascii_butugychag: lynx happens to be my favourite felid

19:04:56 mircea_popescu: not moiety whatever that was ?

19:05:53 ascii_butugychag: manul is pretty but not man-eating

19:06:09 BingoBoingo: <ascii_butugychag> manul is pretty but not man-eating << yet

19:06:09 ascii_butugychag: and 168 of what?

19:06:22 mircea_popescu: of heights.

19:06:26 ascii_butugychag: ah cm

19:06:31 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> anyone ever heard of something like this befoar ?! << Not unheard of

19:06:41 mircea_popescu: ah ok then.

19:08:02 mircea_popescu: anyway, ascii_butugychag point being : mechanized sorting of the playing innocents is, after all, an economic activity.

19:08:08 BingoBoingo: Prolly pissed some users off and they flagged you and got autobanned with a manual overturn of ban

19:08:38 mircea_popescu: i guess ima pay em a few dollah then.

19:08:49 mircea_popescu: pour encourager les autres.

19:15:48 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: i got an entire night of sleep last night << as chetty told me: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=401

19:16:09 mircea_popescu: o.O

19:18:20 deedbot-: [Qntra] First Mass Walmart Closure - http://qntra.net/2016/01/first-mass-walmart-closure/

19:19:20 BingoBoingo: ^ Bigger news than the Dow sucking ass today

19:19:53 mircea_popescu: this makes so little sense... what'll distribute the iron rats to the trashy plebs ?!

19:20:06 ascii_butugychag: i often wonder, how long would it take me to notice if every single wallmart vanished overnight

19:20:15 mircea_popescu: amazon ?

19:20:19 ascii_butugychag: amazon, sure

19:20:21 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag less than an hour.

19:20:23 thestringpuller: I was literally just told "Buy Wal-Mart stock. Always holds against a recession"

19:20:26 BingoBoingo: Surviving walmart will mircea_popescu just gotta take more bus nao to get to walmart

19:20:33 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: how's that

19:20:44 mircea_popescu: because of the absence of drones everywhere and some smoke in the air.

19:21:00 mircea_popescu: what exactly did you imagine keeps the semblance of a "palace" standing up ?

19:21:36 mircea_popescu: they stress-tested this once, delayed ebt almost a whole weekend.

19:21:41 mircea_popescu: thing nearly fell apart.

19:23:05 ascii_butugychag: mega-s33kr1t for mircea_popescu: ebt etc. work at places other than l0lmart

19:23:22 mircea_popescu: you understand how stress propagates right ?

19:23:36 ascii_butugychag: aha

19:23:37 ascii_butugychag: this, yes

19:23:56 mircea_popescu: if this didn't exist, the whole "i didn't spend 50 bux to fix my car two weeks ago so i gotta pay 1100 today" thing wouldn't exist.

19:24:21 ascii_butugychag: cascaded failure is the rule, rather than exception

19:24:35 ascii_butugychag: if this were not so, it would be quite difficult to die

19:24:42 mircea_popescu: so without free shelf-stable cheese dispensaries... someone's gonna have problems.

19:24:47 ascii_butugychag: could fight on like the knight in monty python

19:25:34 *: ascii_butugychag feels physically ill recalling the mere existence of the 'shelf-stable cheese' thing

19:25:43 mircea_popescu: ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ?

19:26:01 mircea_popescu: they ever-so-carefully avoid showing how fat they are. on one hand. and on the other...

19:26:03 ascii_butugychag: same thing as with job candidates having much better looking biographies in their cv ?

19:26:10 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ? << 'Catfishing" or more accurately 'fatfishing'

19:26:18 mircea_popescu: nono, i mean with them.

19:26:30 ascii_butugychag: ah!

19:26:39 mircea_popescu: and they never say "i'm the ugly one" either. or you know, "the short boring looking one". it's always "i'm the one in the right

19:27:00 mircea_popescu: i mean, taking pic with mom i can see, serious psychological disturbances.

19:27:15 mircea_popescu: but... what fucking female doesn't understand you find some UGLIER friends to wing for you ?!

19:27:21 ascii_butugychag: possibly they actually think 'the light of the beauty' illuminates them ?

19:27:24 ascii_butugychag: when standing next to

19:27:42 mircea_popescu: this is on par with imagining periods will make them feel good.

19:27:55 ascii_butugychag: wai wut?!

19:28:18 mircea_popescu: "i feel like my ovaries are floating in rainbow"

19:28:26 ascii_butugychag: who imagines this

19:28:46 mircea_popescu: exactly.

19:32:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3509 @ 0.00050156 = 1.76 BTC [-] {2}

19:38:19 mircea_popescu: ahahaah there;'s such a thinkg as hicksville, ny.

19:43:02 BingoBoingo: !up PeterL

19:43:28 PeterL: maybe somebody could help, I'm trying to build trb, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/6d055000-a895-4b6a-b4bf-af7f360db3b7/?raw=true

19:43:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvKS4h )

19:44:06 mircea_popescu: holy shit the stuff poor PeterL is running into

19:44:17 mircea_popescu: PeterL looks like you don't have openssh ?

19:44:30 mircea_popescu: openssl*

19:44:31 PeterL: I thought it built that earlier in the script?

19:45:12 ascii_butugychag: PeterL: have you considered something like a human os ?

19:45:19 PeterL: in my folder i am building in there is a directory "openssl-1.0.1g"

19:45:29 PeterL: human os?

19:45:48 ascii_butugychag: well you are clearly on some heathen abomination

19:46:12 PeterL: xubuntu

19:46:51 PeterL: just trying to follow directions on trb website

19:46:56 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag srsly nao. this thing is supposed to build.

19:47:34 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: not for nintendo. unless and until i port it to nintendo.

19:47:41 ascii_butugychag: (or mircea_popescu or somebody)

19:48:03 mircea_popescu: PeterL is the openssl dir in the paths correctly ?

19:48:23 PeterL: which paths?

19:49:10 mircea_popescu: mmm im not too fresh on this but somewhere in the script it's told where to find the things it needs,

19:49:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2591 @ 0.00050073 = 1.2974 BTC [+]

19:49:35 mircea_popescu: and since it's looking for openssl/buffer.h as opposed to openssl-1.0.1g/buffer.h i'd guess it's lost

19:53:36 PeterL: I see a line "OPENSSL=openssl-1.0.1g" in the script, is that it?

19:54:01 mircea_popescu: that should do it.

19:54:40 mircea_popescu: ok that's not it, does the file it wants actually exist on your system ? can you find it ?

19:55:13 mircea_popescu: (is it a ridiculous mishap such as results sometimes from manual archive manipulation where you have openssl-1.0.1g/openssl-1.0.1g/blabla ?)

19:55:36 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

19:55:40 gribble: Current Blocks: 393453 | Current Difficulty: 1.1335429980147113E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 395135 | Next Difficulty In: 1682 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 51 minutes, and 29 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

20:03:03 mod6: PeterL: hi, are you using the v99997 build script?

20:03:13 PeterL: yes

20:03:42 PeterL: oh, wait, is that the same one linked on trb website?

20:03:43 mod6: did you try to run this script more than one time?

20:03:50 PeterL: umm, yes

20:04:26 mod6: no, i don't think it's linked. it's not 'official' at this point -- just a thing I put together to build the full orchastra and pull & press src with V.

20:04:49 mod6: ok, so trying to run that script more than once might cause some pain.

20:05:06 PeterL: I am using the script from http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html

20:05:07 assbot: [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: A Guide ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjMQbV )

20:05:16 mod6: i'd try creating a new dir somewhere, putting the build script in the new dir, and then running it again.

20:05:17 ascii_butugychag: aaaancient history

20:05:31 ascii_butugychag: imho everybody oughta be using v build at this point

20:05:40 mod6: oh yeah. that's very old. lemme dig up the latest one.

20:05:53 PeterL: I guess I am just not sure how to get v to build it once I have v?

20:07:42 mod6: so, V doesn't actually do any building at all.

20:08:02 PeterL: ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it?

20:08:06 mod6: it just pulls down the vpatches, and inflates the source tree from zero.

20:08:45 mod6: <+PeterL> ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it? << the latest build script will do all of this for you ~except~ creating your ~/.wot directory with the appropriatly named keys placed in the directory.

20:09:03 mod6: you need buildroot+everything to build the static binary.

20:09:07 PeterL: which one is the latest build script?

20:09:10 *: mod6 is still digging in the logs.

20:09:11 mod6: one sec.

20:10:34 mod6: is there a way to search the deeds in deedbot?

20:11:30 PeterL: google site:deedbot.org searchstring ?

20:13:01 mod6: thanks, couldn't find it on deedbot though

20:13:07 mod6: but this is the one

20:13:08 mod6: http://dpaste.com/3J5SA2V.txt

20:13:09 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmteVM )

20:14:02 mod6: and... like i said, create a new dir, drop this script in there and run it -- but be aware that if left unchanged from the original, it'll not build alf's latest two patches in when pressing the source out.

20:14:06 mod6: !up PeterL

20:14:31 mod6: if you want it to do so, you'll need to edit this line:

20:14:33 mod6: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch

20:14:36 mod6: and change it to this:

20:14:59 mircea_popescu: oh he's uysing a 9month old script. doh.

20:15:26 mod6: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform-programmable-versionstring.vpatch

20:16:12 PeterL: maybe the website could include a note to not use that script? or just take it off the front page?

20:16:55 mod6: my apologies. what exists on the website is meant to help someone build v0.5.3.1 -- the rest of this stuff is basically as-of-yet-unreleased.

20:17:07 mod6: trying to get there... just a zillion things to work on :(

20:17:56 mircea_popescu: poor mod6

20:17:59 PeterL: no problem, i understand

20:24:35 BingoBoingo: Prolly ought to get out a 0.5.4 relase tagged, since... that database fix is necessary

20:25:21 ascii_butugychag: yeah the old tree is close to useless

20:25:24 BingoBoingo: I mean... unless we plan a future reorg back to August 2015...

20:25:34 BingoBoingo: !up copumpkin

20:26:41 BingoBoingo: Thanks to V there's no serious need to tag anything beyond the BDB fix in a release, but... Gotta tag something useful as the recommended

20:27:32 PeterL: does v have to be in the same directory as the buildscript?

20:31:02 PeterL: I tried to run the script, it just says ": invalid option"

20:45:26 BingoBoingo: !up PeterL

20:46:37 mod6: getting it resolved... he's on a i686 env.

20:53:50 mod6: ben_vulpes: so yah, having the keys on blogs/homepages isn't a bad idea.

20:54:25 mod6: but... maybe it'd be useful to put the links to our exported, ascii armored keys in the assets wiki?

20:54:52 mod6: that way when someone wants to get going with V, they can find the keys without having to dig through 6 blogs.

20:55:02 mod6: and additionally, this cuts out SKS.

20:55:32 mod6: my key can be found here; http://mod6.net/mod6.asc

20:55:34 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Zq5X5d )

20:55:44 ascii_butugychag: !s pressed cd

20:55:44 assbot: 6 results for 'pressed cd' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=pressed+cd

20:56:17 mod6: ah

20:56:47 mod6: ;;later tell PeterL Sorry, just missed you there. Thanks for your patience and efforts to build! We'll get through it.

20:56:48 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:00:14 BingoBoingo: Looks like axe time approaches https://archive.is/dFk4F

21:00:15 assbot: BitFuryGroup is ready to move forward and support 2MB increase with Bitcoin Classic : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU0Rg3 )

21:03:07 punkman: that's not good

21:09:08 thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: KNC miner also committed as well.

21:09:18 BingoBoingo: You got to understand the fiat orchestra is coming together

21:10:00 thestringpuller: the shitgnome symphony orchestra

21:14:21 mircea_popescu: <mod6> my key can be found here; http://mod6.net/mod6.asc << my key's also been on my blog forever now.

21:14:21 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Zq5X5d )

21:14:48 mircea_popescu: what exactly do miner producers have to do with this discussion ?

21:17:35 mircea_popescu: "That puts over 50% of the hash rate behind Bitcoin Classic, consensus has been achieved."

21:17:38 mircea_popescu: lol reddit.

21:19:28 mircea_popescu: "A few hardcore small-blockians might actually delay their switch, because the level of anger from that nasty group will be unimaginable, when their beloved developers betray them like this. Popescu alone will probably have a heart attack :)"

21:19:31 mircea_popescu: lol ok.

21:19:44 mircea_popescu: mno, i will simply be staying with bitcoin. as aformentioned, good riddance.

21:21:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00050864 = 1.5259 BTC [+] {3}

21:29:53 mircea_popescu: lol coinbase doesn't let people buy anymore? :D

21:29:57 BingoBoingo: But it's easy to see how this plays out. Hearn agenda fails and he loudly quits. Derps knee jerk sold on Hearn agenda which is still a pile of fail

21:30:05 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol coinbase doesn't let people buy anymore? :D << not today

21:30:22 mircea_popescu: yeaya, im sure that's how things go.

21:31:48 BingoBoingo: But yes, fiat media was all ready to run on hearn's "Bitcoin dead" and loyal USG exchanges ready to prevent buying to fire the broomstick one last time

21:31:48 mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/413pwp/mike_hearns_latest_blog_post_was_a_strategic_move/ << uncharacteristically, r/bitcoin is pretty aware of what's going on.

21:31:49 assbot: Mike Hearn's latest blog post was a strategic move by R3 to influence the industry : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU3YVg )

21:32:48 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's ashame they underestimate the enemy. when reality sets in the classic, "No one saw this coming!!!111" will echo throughout the chambers.

21:33:11 mircea_popescu: eh that's ok, im sure it'll never have happened.

21:33:17 mircea_popescu: just like xt etc.

21:33:36 mircea_popescu: all that hard work trying to select a marginally defensible epithet and coming up with "classic"...

21:33:38 mircea_popescu: sad.

21:34:34 BingoBoingo: The only material difference between XT and "classic" is "classic" has a vague chance of triggering the crisis. XT never had a chance. Not in this or any other hell.

21:35:06 mircea_popescu: amusingly... they don't even have 1/3 of the "public support"/astroturf of xt ?

21:35:12 mircea_popescu: da fuck is this limp dick shit lmao.

21:39:08 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> da fuck is this limp dick shit lmao. << This time they skipped the astroturf to just do the VC dollar squeeze

21:41:31 mircea_popescu: oh oh

21:44:10 mircea_popescu: so the derps are going to control 5bn worth of usg poison with some idle promises for maybe 30-50mn theoretical and in fact a few thouysand here and there ?

21:44:28 mircea_popescu: what is this, usg's wet dream ? go sink a chinese aircraft carrier, yo.

21:54:15 BingoBoingo: !up irdial

21:55:27 BingoBoingo: irdial: See the line here titled register. You are in gribble wot, but not assbot wot yet http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot

21:55:29 assbot: irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q3G8FJ )

21:55:41 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $700 before Apr 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1236/bitcoin-to-top-700-before-apr-2016/#b32

22:00:26 irdial: !register 5E16D36EDB3240F9

22:00:26 assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.

22:01:41 BingoBoingo: irdial: Full fingerprint

22:10:27 BingoBoingo: !up gernika

22:10:51 gernika: thx BingoBoingo. Curious what's the deal with coinbase? I just bought some btc there like 1 hr ago...

22:11:46 BingoBoingo: gernika: Well, they are having a lot of "service interruptions" today

22:11:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00050695 = 3.3459 BTC [-] {3}

22:12:21 BingoBoingo: Has the Bitcoin hit your own wallet yet or is it still in Coinbase?

22:12:27 gernika: saw something on reddit where some guy said he couldn't buy

22:12:52 gernika: No - never hits my wallet until a week after I buy, which is normal.

22:12:58 gernika: for coinbase

22:13:15 gernika: er couldn't sell

22:14:08 gernika: And no I don't keep more than a pittance in the wallet at any time.

22:17:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3298 @ 0.00050615 = 1.6693 BTC [-] {2}

22:18:41 BingoBoingo: ah

22:19:09 irdial: !register E930 6C6E 1CCE 5697 A88B 5482 5E16 D36E DB32 40F9

22:19:09 assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.

22:19:21 deedbot-: [Qntra] Robocoin/Romit Follows Hearn Out - http://qntra.net/2016/01/robocoinromit-follows-hearn-out/

22:20:28 irdial: !register E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9

22:20:28 assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: E9306C6E1CCE5697A88B54825E16D36EDB3240F9. This may take a few moments.

22:20:33 assbot: Key DB3240F9 / "Irdial-Discs <irdial@irdial.com>" successfully imported.

22:20:34 assbot: Registration successful.

22:21:54 gernika: Would prefer not to use coinbase any longer, but no "exchange" is any better, and bitcoin-otc is dead.

22:22:15 ascii_butugychag: i even used it once !

22:22:26 ascii_butugychag: in fact, the only time i bought coin since... gox

22:22:43 jurov: !gettrust jurov gernika

22:22:44 assbot: Trust relationship from user jurov to user gernika: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=jurov&to=gernika | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/gernika/

22:22:53 ascii_butugychag: it worked about as well as 'golden age' gox

22:22:58 ascii_butugychag: grudgingly spat forth some coin

22:23:06 gernika: ascii_butugychag: otc?

22:23:11 ascii_butugychag: coinbase

22:23:15 jurov: gernika i am selling btc via transferwise, so far works well

22:23:21 BingoBoingo: irdial: ty, now you can !up yourself in channel and if you wish you may drop an dpaste encrypted to my public key here for consideration for qntra publication

22:23:24 ascii_butugychag: i was never able to get anything useful whatsoever from otc

22:23:29 jurov: (not big volume tho)

22:23:40 gernika: jurov: will check it out

22:24:14 BingoBoingo: irdial: If something you submit does get published you talk to jurov about collecting your shares. Thank you for your patience.

22:24:42 gernika: ascii_butugychag: I've done a few small transactions on otc. All went smoothly.

22:24:59 gernika: But since the bot went down, haven't used it.

22:26:03 BingoBoingo: !up irdial

22:26:09 irdial: BingoBongo Thatnk you for helping me.

22:26:33 BingoBoingo: irdial: No problem. Just please !up yourself to make sure you have the process for doing so down.

22:26:51 irdial: !up

22:26:58 irdial: !up irdial

22:27:39 jurov: irdial you're up already, i'll devoice you first, then retry

22:27:44 jurov: !down irdial

22:28:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3250 @ 0.00050942 = 1.6556 BTC [+] {2}

22:28:34 jurov: irdial oh and talk to assbot in pm, not here

22:28:47 ascii_butugychag: 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will

22:28:48 assbot: Beyond Bitcoin: Morning Webcast Session - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbZ7Qk )

22:28:54 ascii_butugychag: be a New York Times article saying Mike Hearn broke up with Bitcoin and called it a failed experiment."' << l0l

22:31:24 gernika: "When one of the most important people in Bitcoin states something like that you have to listen." http://avc.com/2016/01/bitcoin-is-dead-long-live-bitcoin/

22:31:25 assbot: Bitcoin Is Dead, Long Live Bitcoin – AVC ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbZn1N )

22:31:53 danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, would help if someone gave him a rating first :p

22:32:10 BingoBoingo: !rate irdial 1 loud

22:32:10 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e90b93be43ae09f0

22:32:28 jurov: lol you did not?

22:32:44 BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.irdial.1:fea0f97f18bed88a3642c4a450d4595eca0ea2591c2f4557fae869882916da7c

22:32:44 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for irdial with note: loud

22:32:48 BingoBoingo: jurov: forgot too

22:33:00 danielpbarron: i think i tried to give him a -1 a while back but couldn't because he was in the wrong WoT

22:33:08 BingoBoingo: irdial: Pls try to up self again

22:36:54 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2015#1006051 << irdial remember this?

22:36:54 assbot: Logged on 04-02-2015 09:56:00; danielpbarron: wanted to do this -> !rate irdial -2 UnSavory Garnish http://twitter.com/beautyon_/status/562908880511201280

22:42:00 BingoBoingo: !up irdial

22:49:39 BingoBoingo: http://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/2016/01/14/decentralization/

22:49:42 assbot: Why Bitcoin's Decentralization Matters · BlueMatt's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1UVLB2r )

23:04:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2831 @ 0.0005033 = 1.4248 BTC [-] {2}

23:33:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00050943 = 9.6792 BTC [+]

23:55:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00050943 = 1.1717 BTC [+]