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Transcript for 16-03-2015, 664 lines:

00:02:03 thestringpuller: so people want to replace poop with smellier poop?

00:03:58 BingoBoingo: Yah

00:04:51 ben_vulpes: more implementations is a totally fine and good thing.

00:05:41 mircea_popescu: !up AdrianoOliveira

00:05:50 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well i dunno, 've not been following so close.

00:06:23 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the only problem is the notion that power rangers = "core", somehow.

00:06:45 mircea_popescu: other than that, they probably should move to c# or w/e.

00:06:59 mircea_popescu: ruby on trails.

00:10:32 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yes a web framework

00:10:35 ben_vulpes: grand notion

00:10:49 ben_vulpes: rubby on my happy trail

00:10:54 mircea_popescu: what could be better.

00:11:05 mircea_popescu: plus it has native db support

00:11:09 mircea_popescu: or somesuch

00:12:00 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you're aware that this is actually a thing already, right?

00:12:17 mircea_popescu: no, i wasn't.

00:12:36 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform http://ab-initio.mit.edu/wiki/index.php/Meep << any good?

00:12:37 assbot: Meep - AbInitio ... ( http://bit.ly/18Q5ipR )

00:12:37 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:12:44 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: https://github.com/coinbase/toshi/blob/master/lib/toshi/models/block.rb

00:12:45 assbot: toshi/block.rb at master · coinbase/toshi · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/18Q5iX1 )

00:13:28 mircea_popescu: a well.

00:13:31 ben_vulpes: my favorte part of rails projects is how they infrequently enforce things like foreign key constraints.

00:13:50 ben_vulpes: "but you know you might want to move to a db that can't enforce constraints on itself like mongo, and then where would you be?"

00:13:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70150 @ 0.0003227 = 22.6374 BTC [-] {2}

00:13:59 ben_vulpes: well, up shit creek, but already and for other reasons.

00:15:58 ben_vulpes: it's probably no worse than the satoshi codebase.

00:16:10 ben_vulpes: (except for the part where its schema is defined by the ruby orm)

00:16:37 mircea_popescu: not clear that satoshi even has a defined schema

00:18:24 ben_vulpes: https://github.com/coinbase/toshi/issues/152

00:18:25 assbot: Toshi Stops Gets stuck on initial Sync · Issue #152 · coinbase/toshi · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/18Q6f1E )

00:18:56 ben_vulpes: it has c structs that get derped into whatever c db a given version is using

00:20:13 ben_vulpes: https://github.com/coinbase/toshi/issues/121 << i'm chuckling

00:20:15 assbot: Toshi stops syncing at 15 GB · Issue #121 · coinbase/toshi · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/18Q6sle )

00:21:09 ben_vulpes: that's enough for me

00:24:51 mircea_popescu: cazalla https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net < any idea what the peak yest was ?

00:24:52 assbot: Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1v2UsSv )

00:26:00 cazalla: mircea_popescu, good chunk would've been from reddit

00:26:12 mircea_popescu: o the usms thing

00:26:12 mircea_popescu: yea

00:27:12 cazalla: yeah, but considering that it was floating around the #3 - #5 spot on /r/bitcoin, it's quite poor

00:27:51 mircea_popescu: bout what reddit's worth i thought.

00:29:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26500 @ 0.00032862 = 8.7084 BTC [+]

00:30:36 thestringpuller: not a lot of news these days :(

00:32:02 cazalla: the past week has been quiet which is why so many of the other sites turn to altcoins stories to use as filler content

00:32:34 thestringpuller: qntra don't need no filla

00:34:29 cazalla: once you cut the obvious press releases, vc's funded such and such company and altcoin news, there isn't much to choose from on quiet weeks

00:35:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143798 @ 0.00032565 = 46.8278 BTC [-] {2}

00:38:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9697 @ 0.00032266 = 3.1288 BTC [-]

00:38:28 cazalla: if anyone does have suggestions as to what type of content they would like to see on Qntra, i'm all ears

01:04:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35670 @ 0.00032103 = 11.4511 BTC [-] {2}

01:11:33 mircea_popescu: quiet weeks are quiet weeks

01:32:26 thestringpuller: wow mircea_popescu just read Old Story

01:36:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14450 @ 0.00032405 = 4.6825 BTC [+]

01:36:37 thestringpuller: http://iamjamesgibson.com/working-together << lol

01:37:36 mircea_popescu: heh.

01:51:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130121 @ 0.00032173 = 41.8638 BTC [-] {4}

01:57:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 154968 @ 0.00032 = 49.5898 BTC [-]

02:08:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30235 @ 0.00032 = 9.6752 BTC [-]

02:30:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64450 @ 0.00032 = 20.624 BTC [-]

02:30:27 nubbins`: !up pete_dushenski

02:30:34 pete_dushenski: thx!

02:30:42 nubbins`: np

02:31:16 pete_dushenski: so let's kick this evening off with a little scoop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/15/emancipation-shemancipation-independence-shmindependence/

02:31:18 assbot: Emancipation shemancipation, independence shmindependence. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYB1WF )

02:32:06 pete_dushenski: oh, and http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/14/the-world-is-fundamentally-hostile/

02:32:07 assbot: The world is fundamentally hostile. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYB5px )

02:32:47 pete_dushenski: in summa: jamaica sucks and is a bit bitter about it.

02:35:36 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-03-2015#1053463 << yes. the logs are muddied by my earlier indiscretions.

02:35:36 assbot: Logged on 15-03-2015 08:54:25; cazalla: ah bitcoin pete edited the text to fix spelling errors so nothing untoward afterall.. when you read this, sorry pete_dushenski

02:45:10 thestringpuller: yay its a pete_dushenski

02:45:24 pete_dushenski: howdy howdy

02:46:16 pete_dushenski: on some veeeery slow internet here

02:46:31 pete_dushenski: last night in bobmarleyland :)

02:54:23 pete_dushenski: cazalla BingoBoingo thestringpuller qntra fodder: http://yahoo.tumblr.com/post/113708033335/user-focused-security-end-to-end-encryption

02:54:24 assbot: User-Focused Security: End-to-End Encryption... | Yahoo ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bnjk9m )

02:54:58 pete_dushenski: "openpgp-based"

02:55:13 *: thestringpuller looks

02:55:14 pete_dushenski: because hushmail didn't do that a decade ago or whatever

02:55:20 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski lol

02:55:37 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: pretty much!

02:55:48 thestringpuller: this is a new push for "Encryption as a Service"

02:55:56 thestringpuller: which is fucktarded to say the least

02:56:22 pete_dushenski: hey, if car cleaning is a service...

02:56:27 thestringpuller: http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/encryption-as-a-service-EaaS << how can you even trust this?

02:56:34 mircea_popescu: car cleanning doesn't randomly switch your tires out with popsicles.

02:56:40 thestringpuller: ^- omg this

02:57:11 pete_dushenski: lol

02:57:31 pete_dushenski: or line the doors with drugs and send you to "a friend's house"

02:59:18 thestringpuller: Is this really the only thing coming out of SXSW?!?

02:59:42 mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/3b0cb0bfcc9e0e9b908b9852b3d6028e/tumblr_mnz52chA1r1sp79mwo1_500.gif masturbation is fun

02:59:44 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bnk524 )

03:00:28 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: and some lulzy 'anti-robot' demonstration

03:00:48 thestringpuller: !up pete_dushenski

03:00:57 pete_dushenski: thx!

03:01:32 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: fun and productive!

03:01:46 mircea_popescu: sxsw!

03:02:53 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: you forgot Carrie First Bitcoin Pedicab Driver!

03:03:17 pete_dushenski: eh ?

03:03:30 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: mad!

03:03:38 thestringpuller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct8uBO6ir3M

03:03:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24750 @ 0.0003221 = 7.972 BTC [+]

03:04:04 thestringpuller: she's already made a whole bitcoin in tipping! LOL.

03:05:43 pete_dushenski: not bad, not bad.

03:07:31 cazalla: wow, i want to punch that guy in the face after 5 seconds of that video

03:08:33 pete_dushenski: well, his fragile ego is but an angry tweet away

03:09:57 pete_dushenski: relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LABGimhsEys

03:09:58 assbot: Celebrities Read Mean Tweets #8 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FnrkNL )

03:13:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64650 @ 0.00032098 = 20.7514 BTC [-] {2}

03:14:03 cazalla: thestringpuller, i bet the majority of tips came from people who didn't even get a ride.. 1 btc, almost worth the time to contrive a similar video

03:41:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 152771 @ 0.00032552 = 49.73 BTC [+] {2}

03:42:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92829 @ 0.00032862 = 30.5055 BTC [+]

03:45:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00031984 = 10.2988 BTC [-] {2}

03:51:23 BingoBoingo: Some midnight Havelol rumors https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=991172.0

03:51:23 assbot: HAVELOCK tried to BRIBE ME! ... ( http://bit.ly/1BnroXM )

03:52:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00032767 = 18.3168 BTC [+]

04:16:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122849 @ 0.00032957 = 40.4873 BTC [+] {3}

04:44:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37350 @ 0.00033021 = 12.3333 BTC [+]

04:54:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79424 @ 0.00033021 = 26.2266 BTC [+]

05:00:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118700 @ 0.00031985 = 37.9662 BTC [-] {3}

05:04:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73843 @ 0.00031938 = 23.584 BTC [-] {2}

05:12:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8273 @ 0.00031731 = 2.6251 BTC [-]

05:31:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22222 @ 0.00031655 = 7.0344 BTC [-]

05:49:17 ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/Nahyeni/status/572123280724914176

05:49:19 assbot: when i saw this i realized all my friendships fake http://t.co/AUFdNX2Ab9

05:56:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14890 @ 0.00031655 = 4.7134 BTC [-]

05:58:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 157100 @ 0.00032061 = 50.3678 BTC [+] {4}

06:03:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16004 @ 0.00031646 = 5.0646 BTC [-] {2}

06:11:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0142789 = 2.8558 BTC [+] {7}

06:13:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64600 @ 0.00032821 = 21.2024 BTC [+] {2}

06:22:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70745 @ 0.0003295 = 23.3105 BTC [+] {2}

06:28:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 163073 @ 0.00031561 = 51.4675 BTC [-] {2}

06:39:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122850 @ 0.00031214 = 38.3464 BTC [-] {3}

07:00:31 mircea_popescu: !up aegis

07:09:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "errying LEGAL that touches x will touch you too!!11" omfg who let the shamans out of africa.

07:10:15 mircea_popescu: now we gotta contend with legavoodoo

07:10:29 BingoBoingo: Wurst Voodoo

07:11:12 mircea_popescu: in other news, nude dancer girl. http://40.media.tumblr.com/2d3ae273a07e14008e974530cfc47012/tumblr_n2ejftciH81s8rc6go1_1280.jpg

07:11:13 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ClZMJF )

07:17:41 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

07:18:09 Vexual: hey hey hey

07:28:11 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

07:28:18 Vexual: pete_d did you see the total recall 3 tittie in negril?

07:29:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52354 @ 0.00031887 = 16.6941 BTC [+]

07:29:17 Vexual: me thinks one was a fat roll, but still..

07:31:09 Vexual: cant beat some bootleg ska

07:32:00 Vexual: banned on the internet and shit

07:43:43 cazalla: fluffypony, are you vegan?

07:43:53 fluffypony: cazalla: no, my wife is

07:44:11 *: fluffypony couldn't be bothered

07:44:12 cazalla: i just saw that pop by on twitter, that's why i ask :P

07:44:22 fluffypony: I love animals, but not enough to change my diet

07:45:09 cazalla: i love them too because they are so tasty

07:48:53 Vexual: ^

07:49:40 fluffypony: lol

07:51:27 Vexual: !up BingoBoingo

07:55:56 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/amid-decision-to-close-allcrypt-com-reports-hot-wallet-theft/

07:57:39 cazalla: i sometimes wonder if the guys who set up these two bit exchanges get frustrated at having lost money after a year despite an expectation they would get bought out and so decide to just steal their users instead so they can sleep well at night thinking they got that illusive 6 billion dorrah google buy out

08:02:29 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

08:02:59 mircea_popescu: just about.

08:03:58 mircea_popescu: if you go through the insanities they [used to] drop on the forum, the way unemployed/unemployable css derp sees the matter is, "he put 1000 hours worth 100 dollars each into the thing that is not really worth anything. so how about the users split the damage ?"

08:04:26 mircea_popescu: that his hours aren't worth anything isn't a point he's well inclined to grasp under torture, let alone figure out on his own.

08:04:36 mircea_popescu: that the site isn't worth anything FOR THAT REASON idem.

08:10:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34839 @ 0.00033187 = 11.562 BTC [+]

08:12:04 scoopbot: New post on fraudsters by Mircea Popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2015/how-to-fix-your-local-trackbacks/

08:15:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61321 @ 0.00033187 = 20.3506 BTC [+]

08:20:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151000 @ 0.00033187 = 50.1124 BTC [+]

08:25:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16146 @ 0.00032131 = 5.1879 BTC [-]

08:34:19 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

08:39:59 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM7RcgZ1pLE

08:41:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23954 @ 0.00031273 = 7.4911 BTC [-]

08:44:26 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VrQqN6-ZsY heading west

08:46:23 Vexual: momma wont like it

08:51:40 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MnUKlujqHk

08:53:13 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0pWejAnLUQ

09:01:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41178 @ 0.00031579 = 13.0036 BTC [+]

09:03:01 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0pWejAnLUQ

09:05:16 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

09:09:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93500 @ 0.0003309 = 30.9392 BTC [+] {2}

09:13:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00031229 = 11.9607 BTC [-] {2}

09:14:16 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

09:19:59 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBAzlNJonO8 yo ks

09:21:08 Vexual: KRS1

09:21:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32781 @ 0.00033187 = 10.879 BTC [+]

09:22:03 Vexual: marlestromers

09:24:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 176778 @ 0.00033188 = 58.6691 BTC [+] {2}

09:28:35 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W5pq4bIzIw

09:32:38 Vexual: ()(())()

09:33:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45200 @ 0.00033301 = 15.0521 BTC [+]

09:34:18 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hyD2yAZFwE

09:35:50 Vexual: 6a011168547078970c017d430f5600970c-800wi

09:40:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122150 @ 0.00033363 = 40.7529 BTC [+] {4}

09:42:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 153322 @ 0.00033292 = 51.044 BTC [-]

10:08:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17793 @ 0.00031064 = 5.5272 BTC [-]

10:23:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96086 @ 0.00031022 = 29.8078 BTC [-] {2}

10:25:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79400 @ 0.00031 = 24.614 BTC [-]

10:54:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 223358 @ 0.00030966 = 69.165 BTC [-] {4}

11:01:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54600 @ 0.0003094 = 16.8932 BTC [-] {3}

11:02:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00031333 = 12.5019 BTC [+]

11:44:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104700 @ 0.00031226 = 32.6936 BTC [-]

11:51:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57050 @ 0.00031341 = 17.88 BTC [+] {2}

12:04:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31600 @ 0.00031356 = 9.9085 BTC [+]

12:08:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26560 @ 0.00031356 = 8.3282 BTC [+]

12:15:49 danielpbarron: height=280974 vs height=210695

12:16:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48901 @ 0.00031356 = 15.3334 BTC [+]

12:23:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96050 @ 0.000319 = 30.64 BTC [+] {2}

12:27:12 nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=984312.0

12:27:13 assbot: [WTS] Rare coffee brands ... ( http://bit.ly/1EpMWYb )

12:27:22 nubbins`: "rare" = dark-roasted robusta o.O

12:27:31 nubbins`: oh and force-fed weasel poop

12:37:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69900 @ 0.00032214 = 22.5176 BTC [+]

12:42:46 kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/TU8FPFv.jpg

12:42:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EpP16D )

12:45:15 mike_c: I'm picturing a guy standing there scratching his head wondering how he's going to get the X he needs that's in the bottom of that box.

12:45:39 chetty: box o kitty :)

12:50:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77100 @ 0.00031717 = 24.4538 BTC [-] {2}

12:51:29 davout: http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-march-15th-2015-statement/

12:51:30 assbot: X.EUR March 15th 2015 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1EpQ4Ub )

12:51:47 scoopbot: New post on fr.anco.is by davout: http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-march-15th-2015-statement/

12:51:56 davout: o a scoopbot

12:52:33 nubbins`: setting up ARM cross-compile toolchain on osx is no fun

12:53:06 nubbins`: anyway, for those still trying to build linux for pogo

12:53:07 nubbins`: http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=5062

12:53:08 assbot: Arch Linux ARM • View topic - [GUIDE] Re-building the kernel(3.7.8) and U-Boot (2013.01) ... ( http://bit.ly/1EpQgCD )

12:53:11 nubbins`: might have some tips

12:53:20 davout: !up deedbot-

12:53:32 davout: deedbot-: add-deed http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-march-15th-2015-statement/

12:53:34 assbot: X.EUR March 15th 2015 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1FpBYmV )

12:53:34 deedbot-: No messages were found.

12:53:39 davout: hrm

12:54:44 nubbins`: anyway there's 35cm of snow on the ground since i went to bed

12:54:46 davout: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/2RYHB2R.txt

12:54:47 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FpCly6 )

12:54:47 deedbot-: accepted: 1

12:54:48 nubbins`: guess i'll shovel a way out

12:57:30 nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2z7agl/i_just_watched_the_deep_web_film_premiere_at_sxsw/

12:57:32 assbot: I just watched the Deep Web film premiere at SXSW. Huge audience, mainstream production (Alex Winters directed and Keanu Reeves narrated) and the film was pro-Silk Road, anti-war on drugs, and pro-Ross Ulbricht. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1EpQMR8 )

12:57:47 nubbins`: FWIW, alex winter and keanu reeves are precisely Bill & Ted (of Excellent Adventure fame)

13:15:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78005 @ 0.00032241 = 25.1496 BTC [+] {2}

13:26:02 Adlai: woah

13:27:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19061 @ 0.00032293 = 6.1554 BTC [+]

14:13:04 thestringpuller: ;;calc 3400 * 0.004

14:13:04 gribble: 13.6

14:32:20 Adlai: adventures in the modern communism: my reserve salary just barely covers 'national insurance' (the less-dysfunctional zionist sibling of 'social security')... there is a certain measure of logic in this

14:32:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103600 @ 0.0003223 = 33.3903 BTC [-]

14:33:45 thestringpuller: $conference

14:40:15 thestringpuller: nubbins` would like Bill and Ted

14:43:07 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 273 @ 0.00408313 = 1.1147 BTC [-] {6}

14:43:12 nubbins`: what's a reserve salary

14:43:19 nubbins`: wait, hold on

14:43:28 nubbins`: like army reserves?

14:44:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114250 @ 0.00032342 = 36.9507 BTC [+]

14:46:53 nubbins`: http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/3/16/e05b5208-da38-4619-8d16-28e4d12f4f9c.jpg

14:46:54 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fs4Qvh )

14:46:57 nubbins`: http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/3/16/a21f0c98-5b87-44b4-8894-8fa273bf1701.jpg

14:46:58 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fs4S6r )

14:50:06 davout: nubbins`: wow

14:50:46 nubbins`: cops are straight-up telling people to stay off the roads

14:54:23 nubbins`: oh, so putin is back!

14:54:54 nubbins`: http://tiviseries.mobi/wp-content/uploads/alina-kabayeva-photos-3.jpg

14:54:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fs6f4S )

14:54:55 dignork: Adlai: it makes absolute sense from libertarian point of view - army conscription is a form of slavery...

14:54:57 nubbins`: ^ relevant

15:07:10 Adlai: yes nubbins` army reserve duty, you get paid for it... dignork this is more like "show up for reserves and בט"ל is on the house"

15:08:14 dignork: Adlai: also free food, and place to sleep, as for any proper slave.

15:08:58 dignork: Adlai: oh, forgot a standard robe.

15:09:20 Adlai: and an axe!

15:12:18 Adlai: so, seeing as hpmor even got mentioned here, i eventually ventured over to read a bit of it... all else aside, the writing itself stinks just like the canon

15:13:00 *: Adlai can't find the exact quote but some literary pundit, when asked "but isn't it great that kids are reading [harry potter] instead of watching TV?" responded that he'd rather they watch tv than read such garbage

15:14:53 Adlai: complete with SHOUTING whenever the author can't find sufficiently expressive words in http://simple.wikipedia.org

15:14:54 assbot: Wikipedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fs9NEt )

15:18:45 Adlai: yet silver lines eternal, and the excursion yielded http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/tagged/Hariezer-Yudotter/chrono (drunk physicist reaction rage, by chapter)

15:18:46 assbot: Wading In ... ( http://bit.ly/1AvEwux )

15:23:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61550 @ 0.00032342 = 19.9065 BTC [+]

15:28:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39407 @ 0.00032342 = 12.745 BTC [+]

15:31:30 PeterL: got a job offer today, pays 25% less than I was making before I got laid off :/

15:35:48 thestringpuller: anyone see this sms 2fa bug on coinbase?

15:38:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110700 @ 0.00032383 = 35.848 BTC [+] {2}

15:38:14 nubbins`: i'm glad the new imgur iOS app has disabled upload functionality

15:38:24 nubbins`: it was previously much too convenient to upload phone snaps

15:39:02 nubbins`: anyway. just shovelled. http://imgur.com/J410t43

15:39:03 assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1FseldK )

15:39:17 nubbins`: that horizontal line is where the sidewalk ends and the road begins

15:46:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14264 @ 0.00032399 = 4.6214 BTC [+]

15:49:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222513 @ 0.00032338 = 71.9563 BTC [-] {2}

15:49:42 mats: ;;tslb

15:49:52 gribble: Time since last block: 21 minutes and 42 seconds

15:50:12 mats: ;;bc,stats

15:50:16 gribble: Current Blocks: 347874 | Current Difficulty: 4.74275549506483E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 348767 | Next Difficulty In: 893 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 6 hours, 55 minutes, and 46 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 47028279381.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.84186

15:53:33 thestringpuller: any qntra editors awake?

15:55:43 thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2z7fvl/2fa_on_coinbase_and_other_exchanges_using_authy/cpgdj8u wow these people are so stupid

16:19:17 mircea_popescu: Global Innovation 8:22 am 19 KiB Looking for $5M funding or above?

16:19:19 mircea_popescu: ahem.

16:24:04 nubbins`: actually i'm only looking for 4.9mn

16:24:08 nubbins`: i'll look elsewhere

16:25:15 nubbins`: mildly unrelated, if i can help it, pink eye will never accept funds or loans from outside investors

16:25:31 nubbins`: !up ascii_field

16:26:24 nubbins`: !up ascii_field

16:26:41 nubbins`: oopsie

16:27:03 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski yo, did you see http://brendafernandez.com/ ? i guess it goes to ben_vulpes too.

16:27:05 assbot: Brenda Blog | ~ Not your average bitcoin girl ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVpLrs )

16:27:05 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:27:20 nubbins`: ;;calc 60*28

16:27:21 gribble: 1680

16:27:32 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: 'meep' electromagnetic... << i must confess that i never tried

16:27:36 mircea_popescu: nubbins` here's the kicker : "If your company meets theses requirements, fill in the form below and we'll be in..."

16:27:51 nubbins`: lel

16:27:59 nubbins`: requirements: must want $5mn+

16:28:08 ascii_field: encryption-as-a-service << that has to be a piece from 'the onion'

16:28:21 nubbins`: marriage consummation as a service

16:28:25 ascii_field: ^

16:28:35 nubbins`: ^ this, i WILL accept outside funding

16:28:41 ascii_field: supposedly, quasi-mythically, existed on some pacific island

16:29:04 nubbins`: was it the one where they used wood^H^H^H^Hstone bitcoin

16:29:19 mircea_popescu: ascii_field remember how some idiot was offering this in 2012 and we laughed him out ? well... the vc circus picked it up. because that's what they do, they feed off our offal.

16:30:24 nubbins`: http://imgur.com/GYNidM1

16:30:25 assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/18xMlIW )

16:30:30 nubbins`: pat canning, what an artist

16:33:22 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: her sense of humor is my cup of tea

16:33:49 thestringpuller: I wonder if she'll come to the conference

16:34:08 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: they feed off it, yes, and i suppose they split its atoms because they are very well-fed from it.

16:34:19 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-112020 i suspect hte answer is "definitely".

16:34:20 assbot: The conference, third edition pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVrflA )

16:34:51 mircea_popescu: hey, maybe you two could get together! token black guy with token TV hitching it at 3rd conference'd be the tits.

16:35:33 nubbins`: mircea_popescu "Bitcoin es una forma de arte superior"

16:35:39 nubbins`: now you know how i ended up here ;p

16:35:42 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i happen to agree, fwiwi.

16:36:01 mircea_popescu: ahahaha. so that makes three of us, like supermajority of those that got it ?

16:37:16 nubbins`: while i reserve the term "elegance" for things much, much simpler in execution than the flaming turdball of code, it completely applies to Bitcooin as a concept

16:37:45 mircea_popescu: well, let me put it this way :

16:38:29 mircea_popescu: you write a play, and this company wants to do it. they're an odd couple really, not much of a staging company. he's on three different mental meds, she's a crack whore. they make the scenery out of chewed up used tissue.

16:38:39 mircea_popescu: now, if your play manages to shine through all that and bring down the house

16:38:47 nubbins`: what a play it must be!

16:38:57 mircea_popescu: i'm calling it elegant. because fuck you, i'm a dragon and im out of words.

16:39:38 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it's rather reminiscent of the first h-bomb. the one that needed a dedicated building with h2 liquifaction cryoplant

16:39:42 nubbins`: no joke, in my cubicle life, the christmas social/dinner/dance was called (i'm really not making this up) an ELEGANZA.

16:39:58 mircea_popescu: ahahaha. buncha octogenarian canadians!

16:40:01 ascii_field: it is interesting to contemplate what 'cold war' would have looked like if the portable variant had never been built

16:40:02 mircea_popescu: ascii_field yup

16:40:17 ascii_field: where h-bomb is either a fat ship or stationary on land

16:40:30 nubbins`: stationary ones much less useful as offensive weapons

16:40:37 mircea_popescu: altho natural engineering has over software engineering this marked advantage, that the horse will throw you off, whereas epistula non erubescit.

16:40:51 ascii_field: nubbins`: not necessarily. can always build it in the enemy's capital, a bit at a time

16:41:11 mircea_popescu: ascii_field that only works in dreams.

16:41:13 nubbins`: worked for tiananmen square ;p

16:41:25 nubbins`: granted, that was a statue, not a compicated piece of machinery

16:41:34 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it works, sorta, if parts fit in diplo-pouches

16:41:55 nubbins`: lead-shielded diplo-pouches

16:41:58 ascii_field: (it is widely believed that us embassy in ru, and ru in us, contain nyookz)

16:42:01 mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of, couldn't, physically, be done. it's a matter of couldn't socially be done.

16:42:15 mircea_popescu: much the same reason vc idiots could do anything, choose to feed off our discarded tissue

16:42:26 mircea_popescu: (if anyone still wondered what the crab bus was a metaphor for)

16:42:45 ascii_field: what next, argue that dung beetle should eat fillet mignon? he does just fine with shit

16:42:57 mircea_popescu: so do your people.

16:43:10 mircea_popescu: which is why they're not doing this, or any other of a number of plans that start with

16:43:17 mircea_popescu: "first, you need X smart, determined people"

16:43:42 ascii_field: l0l

16:43:47 mircea_popescu: the smart are undetermined. the determined are busy playing football.

16:43:58 mircea_popescu: only so much bw in the neural stem.

16:44:01 nubbins`: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/212/a/a/tardigrade_propaganda_4_by_theophontes-d598ubp.jpg

16:44:02 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVtmWs )

16:44:07 nubbins`: tardigrades make me feel funny

16:44:09 ascii_field: as al schwartz put it, 'don't invest if the conveyor has to be staffed with ph.d.'s'

16:46:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89513 @ 0.00032515 = 29.1052 BTC [+] {2}

16:47:36 nubbins`: http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1001206,00.html

16:47:37 assbot: Was Russia Hiding an Atom Bomb at Embassy in Washington? - TIME ... ( http://bit.ly/18xQPPJ )

16:47:57 danielpbarron: !up Bagels7

16:49:03 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053934 almost htere.

16:49:03 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 12:15:49; danielpbarron: height=280974 vs height=210695

16:49:19 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053939 << shut up it's handlasered.

16:49:19 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 12:27:22; nubbins`: "rare" = dark-roasted robusta o.O

16:49:28 nubbins`: haha

16:49:36 nubbins`: don't even get me started on the fucking civet coffee

16:50:29 nubbins`: (know what doesn't produce good coffee? force-feeding cherries to parasite-infested weasels)

16:50:41 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053950 << seems to be working nao!

16:50:41 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 12:51:56; davout: o a scoopbot

16:51:47 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053968 << ahaha

16:51:47 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 12:57:47; nubbins`: FWIW, alex winter and keanu reeves are precisely Bill & Ted (of Excellent Adventure fame)

16:52:00 mircea_popescu: ascii_field : "Huge audience, mainstream production (Alex Winters directed and Keanu Reeves narrated) and the film was pro-Silk Road, anti-war on drugs, and pro-Ross Ulbricht"

16:52:10 ascii_field: wat.

16:52:12 mircea_popescu: there you go. culture war : won. only took like 3-4 years, too.

16:52:27 ascii_field: 'won' is when enemy sits down on stake

16:52:28 mircea_popescu: if anyone's not petrified in fear yet, it'd be because they're either innocent or an imbecile.

16:52:37 mircea_popescu: culture war not buttsex war yo.

16:52:38 ascii_field: not 'made fun of half-heartedly in film'

16:52:56 mircea_popescu: not what happened there by any stretch.

16:56:37 nubbins`: "mainstream production"

16:56:38 nubbins`: lel

16:56:39 nubbins`: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0935664/#director

16:56:41 assbot: Alex Winter - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVw5iI )

16:56:49 nubbins`: just look at all those things you've heard of

17:01:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00032643 = 10.0704 BTC [+]

17:04:24 nubbins`: !up ascii_field

17:04:32 nubbins`: ;;calc 60*30

17:04:32 gribble: 1800

17:04:53 nubbins`: ascii_field you're set for the day

17:04:58 nubbins`: or until my computer sleeps

17:05:26 ascii_field: ty nubbins`.

17:05:37 *: ascii_field finally caught up on log, even

17:06:07 nubbins`: log would make a worthy tome, if one were able to sieve it first

17:06:08 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053996 << comes with bikini wax ?

17:06:08 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 15:08:58; dignork: Adlai: oh, forgot a standard robe.

17:06:21 mircea_popescu: nubbins` prolly bitcoin code easier.

17:06:30 nubbins`: nod

17:06:42 nubbins`: none of it really makes sense w/o vexual, for example

17:06:49 nubbins`: XD

17:07:49 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1053999 << you'll prolly enjoy http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/eyeargon.pdf then

17:07:49 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 15:13:00; *: Adlai can't find the exact quote but some literary pundit, when asked "but isn't it great that kids are reading [harry potter] instead of watching TV?" responded that he'd rather they watch tv than read such garbage

17:07:50 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVyiLd )

17:08:10 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054006 << austerastimulity.

17:08:10 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 15:31:30; PeterL: got a job offer today, pays 25% less than I was making before I got laid off :/

17:08:11 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: argon << ultra-famous

17:08:20 mircea_popescu: ascii_field only among a tiny group :)

17:08:27 ascii_field: author confessed shortly before died, iirc

17:08:39 nubbins`: mircea_popescu peterL i took a 90% pay cut in 2013 when switching careers 8)

17:08:41 mircea_popescu: wasnt author like 17 at the time ?

17:08:51 ascii_field: sumthinglikethat

17:08:54 mircea_popescu: nubbins` so did i, but a decade prior.

17:09:05 nubbins`: makes you fight, neh?

17:09:08 mircea_popescu: of course pay was mostly hookers and blow anyway, best for health

17:09:14 mircea_popescu: my bp took a 50% intima cut.

17:09:56 mircea_popescu: i, in all honesty and no exageration whatsoever, averaged 220-230/110 bp for about a decade.

17:10:11 mircea_popescu: to the degree i had a heart specialist following me around.

17:10:27 ascii_field: like brezhnev, l0l

17:10:38 mircea_popescu: what srsly ?

17:10:43 ascii_field: aha

17:10:46 ascii_field: but he was, what, 80

17:10:59 mircea_popescu: i did not know that.

17:11:02 mircea_popescu: weird. wild.

17:11:11 ascii_field: the doctor-following-around part

17:11:15 ascii_field: no idea what his vital stats were

17:11:16 mircea_popescu: oh

17:11:31 mircea_popescu: oddly enough it seems to have left no sechellae

17:11:32 ascii_field: mr o incidentally goes nowhere without ambulance, complete with blinkenlights

17:11:49 mircea_popescu: ya but he's an idiot.

17:11:54 ascii_field: afaik - sop

17:11:59 ascii_field: gwb had one for sure

17:12:06 mircea_popescu: also.,

17:12:33 nubbins`: i thought that was because he couldn't stay away from the pretzels

17:13:03 mircea_popescu: who, brejnev ?

17:13:07 nubbins`: gwb

17:13:13 nubbins`: or, as he knew them, the dread PRETZELCOATL

17:13:18 mircea_popescu: ahahaha

17:13:32 nubbins`: feathered bread-monster of antiquity

17:13:38 mircea_popescu: anyway, im taking chetty out for sushi, ttyl.

17:13:52 nubbins`: remember: ceviche is only raw in name!

17:20:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50139 @ 0.00032436 = 16.2631 BTC [-]

17:24:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52350 @ 0.00032326 = 16.9227 BTC [-] {2}

17:33:01 funkenstein_: http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/american-amoeba/

17:33:03 assbot: American Amoeba | KUNSTLER ... ( http://bit.ly/1EVDoa4 )

17:34:53 nubbins`: !up ascii_field

17:53:19 funkenstein_: !up OneNomos

18:09:43 thestringpuller: mod6: trap star just came on pandora. dat #tm101

18:21:18 mod6: :]

18:38:58 davout: justusranvier seems to a whole new level in derpitude

18:39:01 davout: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/33594885/

18:39:02 assbot: Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMJ57s )

18:39:59 trinque: davout: deedbot doesn't announce URLs yet, so... *ding!* http://deedbot.org/347883-1HkMQ2Zj1qwLtRLoMTugVpzYkBvQzjB9pj.txt

18:40:00 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GMJg2S )

18:40:55 davout: trinque: gracias, pls to lemme know when it has a nice interface and rounded corners

18:41:11 trinque: soon as I find a moment for sanding

18:42:33 davout: does it also have a written procedure on how to verify deeds by hand?

18:44:01 davout: in other words, how do i access the bundle from a deed ?

18:44:19 davout: or was that URL a bundle and not just a deed?

18:44:29 trinque: that URL is a bundle

18:44:59 trinque: curl <url> | sha256sum

18:45:12 trinque: that's what I'm using as the private key to generate the address

18:47:11 davout: alrighty

18:47:14 davout: ty!

18:47:56 trinque: no problem

18:56:32 dignork: mircea_popescu: comes with bikini wax << maybe PA's for high-ranked officers, dunno any of them.

19:04:16 davout: trinque: looks like it all works correctly

19:04:35 trinque: davout: cool! glad to get someone else's eyes on it

19:13:20 davout: trinque: what happens if the same deed is submitted mutliple times?

19:18:07 davout: question mainly being: can some random derp take already notarized deeds, and clog the pipes with them, because i assume deedbot will listen privately to deeds being submitted, as long as they're signed with a proper key amirite

19:18:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57300 @ 0.00031597 = 18.1051 BTC [-] {2}

19:18:46 danielpbarron: !up Uglux

19:20:15 trinque: davout: it will only eat deeds signed by assbot's L1 or L2

19:20:28 trinque: does not currently do anything to prevent the same signed messages from being submitted twice

19:20:51 trinque: imo might be best to just handle that with negrating abusers

19:20:53 Adlai: does it only accept deeds from authed members of L1/2 ?

19:22:24 trinque: hmmm... actually you guys have a point

19:22:58 Adlai: replay attacks would still be possible, but by limiting submissions to authed L<3, you at least have somebody to punish

19:22:59 trinque: this is why I've been running publish manually and seeing what people have added

19:23:24 Adlai: that's no way to run an automated system :P

19:23:29 davout: Adlai: you don't really want to depend on the submitter being authed i'd say

19:23:51 Adlai: you could also just drop duplicates

19:23:52 trinque: I could just turn off the PM support

19:23:58 trinque: and require all interaction be done here

19:24:12 Adlai: that has the advantage of accelerating shared learning

19:24:27 davout: turning off pm support would be the simplest way

19:25:02 trinque: Adlai | that's no way to run an automated system :P << that's how I *start* running any automated system I make

19:25:32 *: Adlai originally wrote 'no way to build', then choose 'run' intentionally

19:25:48 trinque: well, when you guys start paying me for this, I'll feel worse about it

19:26:03 davout: for every automatic thing, there's a computer doing it manually :D

19:29:53 Adlai: and Cyberdyne Systems are justa buncha freedom fighters

19:30:20 *: Adlai ... is part of 'you guys'? :o

19:31:19 Adlai: last i checked, i'm the guy saying that the way mircea_popescu specified deedbot is silly

19:33:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61600 @ 0.00031604 = 19.4681 BTC [+] {3}

19:38:53 danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/trollaxor/status/577547355282632704

19:38:54 assbot: you can't trust segregated institutions. /hashtag/racism?src=hash /hashtag/sexism?src=hash /hashtag/feminism?src=hash /hashtag/homophobia?src=hash /hashtag/blacklivesmatter?src=hash /hashtag/openbsd?src=hash

19:40:07 trinque: was going to ask Adlai why he thought so, but.. vanished!

19:40:29 trinque: danielpbarron: openbsd lol?

19:40:36 danielpbarron: lol.

19:40:48 trinque: is that a markov tweetbot?

19:41:01 trinque: apparantly not

19:43:58 danielpbarron: found it from those articles bingo linked me to yesterday

19:44:54 danielpbarron: the guy apparently liked OpenBSD until he learned about Theo

19:45:29 danielpbarron: he almost donated 100k USD to OpenBSD and gave it to freebsd instead

19:45:52 danielpbarron: because "social equality" is more important than computer security or something

19:46:06 trinque: having an opinionated ass at the top is a feature

19:47:05 danielpbarron: tried to get him to explain his position in here, but even IRC is on his hate list for being too old

19:47:08 trinque: may I live to see all these valley fuckheads impoverished

19:48:53 trinque: http://www.trollaxor.com/2015/02/openbsd-fact-check-use-or-not-use-test.html << what the fuck are these slides

19:48:54 assbot: trollaxor.com: OPENBSD FACT CHECK: USE OR NOT USE TEST ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ax3tFY )

19:48:57 trinque: the guy is illiterate

19:49:10 trinque: I guess he's trying to be cute?

19:49:32 trinque: scares me the kind of poorly tuned brains running around with fat stacks of USD

19:50:07 danielpbarron: !up ascii_field

19:50:45 danielpbarron: trinque, he didn't earn it; some uncle died and left it to him for the purpose of funding open source

19:50:52 trinque: oh god

19:51:07 ascii_field: may I live to see all these valley fuckheads impoverished << optimist. i expect to have my skull used by them as ashtray, rather than vice-versa

19:51:27 mats: high drama

19:55:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50724 @ 0.00032479 = 16.4746 BTC [+]

19:59:59 ascii_field: possibly i ought to explain. point being that folks are vastly underestimating strength of the enemy

20:00:31 ascii_field: yes, '...the ogre cannot master speech' - but it's an ogre - a bloodthirsty giant

20:00:55 ascii_field: a still largely-intact giant, still walking around and smashing things

20:01:09 ascii_field: and on his shoulders armies of demented midgets ride

20:03:26 trinque: ascii_field: from a perspective it's entirely irrational to have any hope at all; after all, one dies at the end.

20:03:35 trinque: not being flippant, it's a fact

20:04:20 ascii_field: trinque: the hope can only be about outliving the enemy

20:04:37 trinque: given that, ogre or no, my mind will still hum battle songs of an army that does not yet exist

20:11:14 danielpbarron: !up _FeltPen

20:12:54 ascii_field: because "social equality" is more important than computer security or something << reminds, of course, of:

20:12:56 ascii_field: !s stotting

20:12:57 assbot: 11 results for 'stotting' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=stotting

20:13:57 ascii_field: (which in my own mental habit i usually think of as 'peacocking', because it is an even more obvious animal to illustrate the concept with)

20:14:30 ascii_field: or mircea_popescu's 'sprezzatura' - for that matter

20:16:50 ascii_field: sorta wonder, i confess, if sprezzatura/stotting makes its appearance in overcrowded worlds 'that have no frontiers'

20:17:16 ascii_field: as in, picture a town with no decent place to have a footrace (too many hills? swamp? use imagination)

20:17:51 ascii_field: so instead of actually racing, folks start to show off their strength by competing who can walk normally for the longest time with a knapsack full of crap

20:20:54 danielpbarron: !up ascii_field

20:21:48 danielpbarron: so apparently the weak point in the old iMacs was the hard drive

20:22:24 danielpbarron: two out of two i've looked at have bad disks; one doesn't think it even has a hard drive anymore

20:24:10 ascii_field: when buying old machine 1) backup bitwise 2) ssd

20:24:52 ascii_field: ( 1) is for boxes that need the vendor's turdware, naturally. can skip if not. )

20:25:42 danielpbarron: i'm just now realizing that one looks tampered with -- the hard drive might have been removed by previous owner

20:26:53 danielpbarron: other than that they appear to work fine. xfce on openbsd is a nice fit with the apple style

20:29:16 davout: danielpbarron: iirc imacs have special disks with apple-specific temperature sensors or w/e

20:29:36 davout: if you replace the stock one it'll keep the fan running thinking it's over heating

20:31:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12950 @ 0.00031847 = 4.1242 BTC [-]

20:32:01 trinque: ascii_field | as in, picture a town with no decent place to have a footrace << starving for a real challenge; I think so

20:32:18 trinque: and mostly without knowing they are

20:35:31 trinque: yeah that's interesting; it's a sort of degenerate state of a very healthy urge to have a pissing match

20:35:56 ascii_field: trinque: see old book, 'the human zoo', for a more complete version of this hypothesis

20:36:19 ascii_field: (d. morris)

20:36:33 trinque: ascii_field: found, ty

20:36:46 trinque: reminds me that the mongols had a slur to refer to city-dwellers

20:36:51 trinque: saw them as livestock

20:39:22 mircea_popescu: not mine by any means. the duke of este's.

20:39:29 ascii_field: well yeah

20:39:39 ascii_field: but described in recent mircea_popescu article

20:39:45 mircea_popescu: :p

20:39:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19426 @ 0.00032479 = 6.3094 BTC [+]

20:40:10 mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ so, i got logs ?

20:40:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 118 @ 0.01001 = 1.1812 BTC [-] {2}

20:42:01 thestringpuller: ascii_field: we are all meat puppets

20:42:15 thestringpuller: no one pulls their own strings

20:42:19 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054191 << yeah the blocks list as discussed!!11

20:42:19 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 18:41:11; trinque: soon as I find a moment for sanding

20:43:37 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054210 << doens't really need any handling past that imo.

20:43:37 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:20:51; trinque: imo might be best to just handle that with negrating abusers

20:45:12 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054205 << nope. listens in here.

20:45:12 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:18:07; davout: question mainly being: can some random derp take already notarized deeds, and clog the pipes with them, because i assume deedbot will listen privately to deeds being submitted, as long as they're signed with a proper key amirite

20:45:21 mircea_popescu: there's no "private notarization"

20:46:02 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054217 << he doesn't have teh authority to do that, tho.

20:46:02 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:23:51; Adlai: you could also just drop duplicates

20:46:36 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054222 << happens to be the exactly only correct way to run automated systems at first.

20:46:36 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:25:02; trinque: Adlai | that's no way to run an automated system :P << that's how I *start* running any automated system I make

20:46:39 funkenstein_: mircea_popescu, big stack of logs for you. I keep them dry until you tell me where you want them.

20:46:52 mircea_popescu: splendid. specifically, what is it, 300k ?

20:48:35 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054231 << nonsense. trust is not something that can be derived programatically. whether a guy is black or not, whether an institution is segregated or not has no impact on whether you can trust them.

20:48:35 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:38:54; assbot: you can't trust segregated institutions. /hashtag/racism?src=hash /hashtag/sexism?src=hash /hashtag/feminism?src=hash /hashtag/homophobia?src=hash /hashtag/blacklivesmatter?src=hash /hashtag/openbsd?src=hash

20:48:53 funkenstein_: and 300300.3003003

20:49:11 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054239 << "almost donated" ? cool lol.

20:49:11 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:45:29; danielpbarron: he almost donated 100k USD to OpenBSD and gave it to freebsd instead

20:49:25 mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ cool. curious what comes of this.

20:50:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60263 @ 0.00032518 = 19.5963 BTC [+] {2}

20:50:44 funkenstein_: me too :) 100k blocks reached today, reward is 10 LOG per block

20:50:48 mircea_popescu: speaking of wood, http://40.media.tumblr.com/f89886e82be5610fa7df59542fb8357d/tumblr_n193b8VAKq1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg

20:50:49 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkaRix )

20:53:10 mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ you probably should get those various links fixed.

20:55:53 funkenstein_: in woodcoin documentation stuff?

20:57:23 funkenstein_: maybe i should make a real website

20:57:33 mircea_popescu: http://thirstforfire.com/ stuff

20:57:34 assbot: Index of / ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lkc3SX )

20:57:47 mircea_popescu: was another one also linked there

20:59:08 funkenstein_: taking links down, thanks

20:59:33 funkenstein_: not my stuff there

20:59:36 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054242 << actually, being in a venue where "the medium is the message" is absolutely required for someone who has no message past being part of the median.

20:59:36 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:47:05; danielpbarron: tried to get him to explain his position in here, but even IRC is on his hate list for being too old

21:00:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57500 @ 0.00032643 = 18.7697 BTC [+]

21:00:25 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054252 << yes, but then again you're not a sadist, you're a masochist.

21:00:25 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 19:51:07; ascii_field: may I live to see all these valley fuckheads impoverished << optimist. i expect to have my skull used by them as ashtray, rather than vice-versa

21:00:37 mircea_popescu: so you're just being optimistic in your own way :D

21:03:48 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2015#1054269 << essentially yes. it's a result of social dislocation at the top brought about by sudden technological advance that's poorly digested.

21:03:48 assbot: Logged on 16-03-2015 20:16:50; ascii_field: sorta wonder, i confess, if sprezzatura/stotting makes its appearance in overcrowded worlds 'that have no frontiers'

21:04:56 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

21:05:14 mircea_popescu: i wonder how many times alf's been impersonated as ascii_field so far

21:05:22 ascii_field: 'masochist: whip me, whip me! sadist: no...'

21:05:56 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: impersonated... << the real one will presumably say something. ergo impostor, if impostor, is doing precisely what real one wishes.

21:06:17 mircea_popescu: hehe

21:08:06 mircea_popescu: so i'm going to rewrite tlp's short story with the druggie in a moment.

21:11:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83650 @ 0.00032358 = 27.0675 BTC [-] {2}

21:13:25 BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> he almost donated 100k USD to OpenBSD and gave it to freebsd instead << That part seems to have been totally just a troll hob

21:14:36 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron> trinque, he didn't earn it; some uncle died and left it to him for the purpose of funding open source << When someone seems this committed to a troll job you can't take them at face value

21:20:54 funkenstein_: old fiat misallocated? stop the press

21:23:15 funkenstein_: sometimes you have to celebrate if anybody at all gets to spend it

21:29:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59400 @ 0.00032643 = 19.3899 BTC [+]

21:31:11 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

21:31:13 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 291.03, Best ask: 291.21, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 291.07, 24 hour volume: 23083.07900202, 24 hour low: 285.7, 24 hour high: 295.2, 24 hour vwap: None

21:42:45 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/australian-drug-trafficker-sentenced-to-12-years-prison/

21:44:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00032643 = 12.9593 BTC [+]

21:53:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00032655 = 21.6503 BTC [+] {2}

21:58:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8518 @ 0.00031921 = 2.719 BTC [-] {2}

21:59:03 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/coinbase-compliance-chief-resigns/

21:59:20 BingoBoingo: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/33602678/ << Look who'd citing qntra nao

21:59:22 assbot: Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqOOeP )

22:03:43 mircea_popescu: btw, i finally found the source of that debate we had earlier as to how powerful a chimp is etc.

22:03:57 mircea_popescu: you see, when i see chimp i think of bonobos. which... whatever, you could eat one raw.

22:04:16 mircea_popescu: you good folk apparently think of the robust chimp, the OTHER species of pan

22:05:45 BingoBoingo: Oh, so you associated chimp with the harmless species that just lez's out all the time.

22:08:27 mircea_popescu: basically.

22:09:16 mircea_popescu: would have never probably happened if phys antrhopologist person didn't read and go "dude, that's the other one!"

22:09:20 mircea_popescu: "what other one?!"

22:09:58 mircea_popescu: "you know, the one that's like a gorilla"

22:11:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98538 @ 0.00031224 = 30.7675 BTC [-] {2}

22:12:20 Adlai: ;;google dance monkeys dance

22:12:20 gribble: Dance, Monkeys, Dance - Ernest Cline: http://www.ernestcline.com/dmd/; Dance monkeys dance - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLNA7MRdjlw; Dance, Monkeys, Dance - Ernest Cline - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGphsPOHi2M

22:26:34 cazalla: i swear if and when bitcoin hits astronomical heights, imma start the chimp ufc

22:27:28 Adlai: <insert joke about "dag" fights and blockchains>

22:30:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51221 @ 0.0003128 = 16.0219 BTC [+]

22:42:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4761 @ 0.0003128 = 1.4892 BTC [+]

22:49:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175250 @ 0.00031946 = 55.9854 BTC [+] {3}

23:07:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 177400 @ 0.00031293 = 55.5138 BTC [-] {5}

23:10:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41378 @ 0.00030897 = 12.7846 BTC [-] {2}

23:15:42 BingoBoingo: !up royokou

23:25:07 scoopbot: New post on fraudsters by Mircea Popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2015/a-trip-you-may-have-taken-redux/

23:25:29 mircea_popescu: !up mogreen

23:31:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65500 @ 0.00032055 = 20.996 BTC [+] {2}

23:44:50 asciilifeform: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/33602678 << big moment in the history of that particular set of idiots. they will putter around with 'remote attestation' crap and will end with an inevitable 'most of the nodes are not True Nodes, a True Node is this here sealed crate from us, just plug it in'

23:44:52 assbot: Bitcoin / Mailing Lists ... ( http://bit.ly/18zm0Kh )

23:46:39 funkenstein_: what do you think of Sergio's idea is that really possible?

23:46:46 asciilifeform: is it just me or is it hilariously funny that folks working with (or pretending to, whatever) with bitcoin - the only thing that ever solved 'sybil problem' -for the one case for which it is solvable- -- is spewing this kind of nonsense ?

23:47:06 asciilifeform: funkenstein_: anything involving hard time-bounds on a packet-switched net is lunacy

23:47:37 asciilifeform: funkenstein_: the real purpose of this 'proposal', if it has a purpose, is 'let's keep thinking about how to kill nodes not controlled by Phoundation'

23:48:17 funkenstein_: hmm my instinct was it didn't seem possible

23:48:56 funkenstein_: he posts a ton of extremely ambitious ideas i'd love to see him come through on one of them

23:49:00 asciilifeform: funkenstein_: have to understand that what comes out of these people makes considerably more sense once you understand what the one and only 'problem' they ever try to 'solve' really is.

23:49:58 asciilifeform: (to be fair, there are actually two of them. one is -- distracting actual people from actual work with the noise.)

23:51:35 funkenstein_: guess they got us then :)

23:53:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53500 @ 0.0003119 = 16.6867 BTC [-]

23:53:09 BingoBoingo: <funkenstein_> what do you think of Sergio's idea is that really possible? << Serigo is great at inventing problems. So good that many of his suggested fixes are still bigger problems as in this case

23:57:02 funkenstein_: i think you have a point. seems like a really good abstract thinker but sometimes you want a dumb network