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13:37:18 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-04-2016#1444005 <-- I tried to research it a bit, but couldn't find much to look at

13:37:18 assbot: Logged on 14-04-2016 19:29:32; ag3nt_zer0: any thoughts in here on the Synereo project?

13:37:34 funkenstein_: some interesting ideas in a whitepaper

13:37:43 funkenstein_: but nothing released

13:38:09 funkenstein_: apart from a set of colored BTC on the omni platform

13:38:44 funkenstein_: http://omnichest.info/lookupsp.aspx?sp=39

13:38:50 assbot: Omnichest.info - Property Lookup - Synereo AMP (#39) ... ( http://bit.ly/1QdUjot )

13:46:27 funkenstein_: in which some 0.02 marked btc or so is now apparently worth 15,000 btc

13:46:41 funkenstein_: which is kind of impressive when you consider there is no such thing as taint

13:47:30 funkenstein_: a pity that, i had such high hopes for the republic of no thing is equal to any other thing

14:30:01 asciilifeform: funkenstein_: go and try to actually get those 15k.

14:30:54 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: toldya this place would end up infested with sc4mz0rola

14:30:57 funkenstein_: asciilifeform, yeah I know right? good lesson in "market cap" here

14:31:16 funkenstein_: i kinda thought that went without saying

14:31:36 funkenstein_: how is life in the mines?

14:32:06 asciilifeform: funkenstein_: as you might expect.

14:32:34 funkenstein_: i got a picture for you, hold on a sec

14:36:47 funkenstein_: ai ya, it didn't really come out

14:36:49 funkenstein_: http://imgur.com/a/4z4Gb

14:36:51 assbot: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1TXVO0N )

14:37:23 asciilifeform: funkenstein_: wat's that

14:37:25 funkenstein_: abandoned tokamak in a glass box

14:37:44 asciilifeform: ah i see it now

18:34:47 jurov: kakobrekla, i don't understand, mircea did claim that transactions his (or bitbet's), why whould be his signature needed?

20:15:02 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-04-2016#1444204 < puhlease. http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aag3nt_zer0 , http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/ag3nt_zer0/

20:15:02 assbot: Logged on 16-04-2016 14:30:54; asciilifeform: kakobrekla: toldya this place would end up infested with sc4mz0rola

20:15:04 assbot: 699 results for 'from:ag3nt_zer0' - #bitcoin-assets search

20:15:06 assbot: ag3nt_zer0 WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1MA13Cl )

20:15:49 kakobrekla: and afaik he was told 'we arent buying your shit' and left

20:18:01 kakobrekla: jurov he claim the tx was bitbets, not his. theres a difference.

20:18:11 kakobrekla: claims*

20:47:21 davout: kakobrekla: i don't dismiss your concern as being depressing, i dismiss it as being invalid

20:48:37 kakobrekla: mathematically they arent

20:48:41 davout: my position is that there is no in-between where part of this transaction can be accounted for bitbet, but somehow the other part can't

20:49:04 kakobrekla: ill be back soon

20:50:39 davout: if you do not sign the statement, the consequence is that this expense can not be accounted against bitbet, as per the contract, which is precisely what i am doing

22:25:18 kakobrekla: davout payout expenses were never covered in the statements

22:25:52 kakobrekla: and you still havent answer my question re evidence

23:08:39 davout: kakobrekla: let me show you another angle. if mp gets to eat his ~17 btc loss himself, he gets to withhold some money from withdrawals made from mpex to any of these overpaid addresses, doesn't he?

23:09:11 davout: can you prove he's not doing any of this?

23:10:27 davout: my point is that you can't on one hand consider something to be 'void and unenforceable', and on the other hand use it to base a claim to deduct amounts from liabilities

23:11:35 kakobrekla: well mpex also is a failed design, when you request a withdraw you get a signed statement "thanks for the withdrawal" which does not contain address or amount

23:12:42 kakobrekla: but listen, say you break a leg and visit a doctor, there are three possible outcomes: 1. doctor doesnt do anything; 2. doctor plasters the broken leg; 3 doctor plasters whole body

23:12:47 kakobrekla: which of the 3 would be best?

23:20:10 davout: obviously number two. the problem here is that we're not really at the doctor's anymore, something's got infected, patient died. what's one to do?

23:21:16 kakobrekla: its not dead until the balance is 0

23:22:44 kakobrekla: yes its going to die. everyone does. this does not mean doctors should be able to just dismiss broken legs.

23:24:35 kakobrekla: i am also for number two. which means applying remedies where needed.

23:50:15 kakobrekla: to rephrase the technicals yet again: you have no evidence that bb did not already pay out those winner addresses and i have the evidence that those winner addresses already received btc which was all that bitbet ever promised

23:51:37 kakobrekla: (which lulzily goes further than what mpex promises when you withdraw there)

23:53:24 *: kakobrekla has hard time grasping what is causing the strong inclination to do the wrong thing here