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00:20:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00042884 = 1.5867 BTC [+]

00:32:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53606 @ 0.00042852 = 22.9712 BTC [-] {2}

00:47:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00042954 = 9.9653 BTC [+] {2}

01:25:17 danielpbarron: !up sundance

01:28:06 mircea_popescu: ehehe

01:28:13 mircea_popescu: nice netmask.

01:35:05 mircea_popescu: and in highschool news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb73p2TaLz1rq6vz1o1_500.gif

01:35:07 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGiCe2 )

01:36:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24472 @ 0.00042458 = 10.3903 BTC [-]

01:38:53 decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164722 < it's a good question. in fact, a careful reading of the form is interesting not for the stupid questions it asks but the large gaps it doesn't ask about

01:38:53 assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other

01:39:33 decimation: it seems that most of the 'security apparatus' of usg is geared toward catching dumb or incompetent spies

01:39:54 decimation: apparently like it is also geared to catch dumb terrorists

01:40:54 decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2014#811885 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2014#811886

01:40:54 assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:09:34; asciilifeform: if you (org.) want to keep secrets, the menu is roughly: a) employ incorruptible fanatics b) keep all henchmen incommunicado, in 'шарашка' prisons c) there is no 'c.' tertium non datur.

01:40:54 assbot: Logged on 27-08-2014 04:10:26; asciilifeform: notably absent from menu is 'retain army of thugs who know that spheres are interestingly secret'

01:44:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00042346 = 10.2054 BTC [-] {3}

01:46:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103600 @ 0.00043048 = 44.5977 BTC [+] {3}

02:17:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37300 @ 0.00041543 = 15.4955 BTC [-]

02:19:33 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> how is "working undercover" what you do when you << couldn't possibly be real. lulzy satire of the state of the state tho

02:21:13 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"

02:24:53 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot

02:25:23 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> esp in odessa << ehe late as always, i am

02:33:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111450 @ 0.00043169 = 48.1119 BTC [+]

02:40:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19863 @ 0.00041543 = 8.2517 BTC [-]

02:48:17 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164552 << i rarely if ever use a mouse. I'm a big fan of the rubber nub in the center of the keyboard, even if it is the reason my 'b' key fell off and later stopped working

02:48:17 assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 19:45:47; trinque: what's a mouse

02:53:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00043095 = 17.669 BTC [+] {3}

02:59:10 ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler!

02:59:25 trinque: ehehe

02:59:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33750 @ 0.00043293 = 14.6114 BTC [+]

03:07:52 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164762 << i've been known to introduce myself as a 'gassing jew'

03:07:52 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot

03:08:06 asciilifeform: (which is to say, one who is good for more or less entirely that)

03:18:14 Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?

03:22:47 ben_vulpes: there is a "silent dance party" occuring at the park down the street

03:22:56 ben_vulpes: many many people with headphones dancing to music only they can hear

03:22:57 ben_vulpes: in time

03:23:10 ben_vulpes: this was less eerie two nights ago at 1 in the morning.

03:23:56 Adlai: one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties

03:24:10 ben_vulpes: i think these are straight up radio

03:24:11 ben_vulpes: might be wrong

03:24:48 Adlai: he has since moved up in life, last i heard he cancelled a return ticket from the west coast to stick around and carve surfeboards

03:26:57 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164775 << and that's another thing from the long list of 'jew things' that i have no truck with

03:26:57 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:18:14; Adlai: isn't the primary purpose of a jew the production of more jews?

03:29:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21455 @ 0.00041116 = 8.8214 BTC [-] {2}

03:32:20 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164780 << would be interesting to broadcast custom message to these folks.

03:32:20 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:23:56; Adlai: one of my less aspirational friends worked for a while repairing wifi headphones for such parties

03:33:05 Adlai: fwiw ben_vulpes i distinctly remember him saying "wifi", although it could be that different manufacturers use different technologies

03:33:23 Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either

03:34:55 Adlai: 'jew things' is such a game of broken telephone, it's amazing how people survived without deedbots

03:34:55 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

03:35:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44555 @ 0.00042275 = 18.8356 BTC [+] {2}

03:41:29 decimation: schneier lulz: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/06/encrypting_wind.html < "Encrypting your Windows hard drives is trivially easy; choosing which program to use is annoyingly difficult. I still use Windows -- yes, I know, don't even start -- and have intimate experience with this issue."

03:41:31 assbot: Encrypting Windows Hard Drives - Schneier on Security ... ( http://bit.ly/1R2Rmsl )

03:42:33 decimation: seems to me that he's going senile

03:42:49 decimation: maybe next week he will be complaining about the damn mailman

03:45:07 Adlai: "a king has his reign and then he dies"

03:45:14 mod6: man writes a defacto encryption encyclopedia, uses windows.

03:45:19 mod6: other man creates a crypto-currency, uses windows and MFC.

03:45:25 mod6: staggers the imagination

03:45:43 decimation: actually, what it says to me is that the alternatives are dead

03:45:49 Adlai: satoshi must've "known better"

03:46:10 Adlai: his using msvc was just like writing the note with your non-dominant hand

03:46:17 decimation: as ascii said, they probably use winblows because that's what they sell at the computer store

03:46:48 decimation: adlai: he ported functions from mfc into bitcoin utils.cpp

03:47:22 decimation: the man knew cpp-boost-mfc-ese

03:47:30 Adlai: so? i'll copypaste the navyseals copypasta, doesn't mean i know how to triforce

03:47:54 decimation: my point being, he picked his tools, stuck with them

03:48:02 decimation: it's hard for me to begrudge a man that

03:58:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45769 @ 0.00041034 = 18.7809 BTC [-] {2}

04:03:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00042177 = 6.9381 BTC [+]

04:04:18 asciilifeform: decimation: schneier is a worrisome case because he was - very clearly - a genuine fighter against usg who later ended up on enemy side.

04:04:28 asciilifeform: and no one seems to know precisely how/why

04:04:39 asciilifeform: or even approximately when.

04:04:55 decimation: maybe his fight was always at least partially a show

04:05:11 asciilifeform: one hell of a show.

04:05:23 decimation: now as an old man, he can't sustain it

04:09:05 asciilifeform: 'http://www.twitter.com/Tweet_a_bad_word_about_an_american_corporation_and_most_of_your_tweets_get_hidden_from_view' << from server logs

04:10:49 decimation: duh, first rule of marketing club is don't talk about marketing club

04:13:23 decimation: asciilifeform: http://ams.org/notices/200708/tx070800972p.pdf

04:13:25 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JUx57Q )

04:13:41 decimation: it's a good paper about the pointlessness of provability in crypto

04:13:47 asciilifeform: ^ classic

04:13:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00042177 = 3.9435 BTC [+]

04:13:51 asciilifeform: and iirc i linked it here.

04:13:54 decimation: aye, I think so too

04:14:20 asciilifeform: students of elliptic curve crypto should find herr koblitz familiar name

04:14:44 decimation: "Once I heard a speaker from NSA complain about university researchers who are cavalier about proposing untested cryptosystems. He pointed out that in the real world if your cryptography fails, you lose a million dollars or your secret agent gets killed. In academia, if you write about a cryptosystem and then a few months later find a way to break it, you've got two new papers to add to your r?sum?!"

04:15:21 decimation: beware the academics baring 'ideas'

04:15:46 asciilifeform: decimation: yet another illustration of 'q: how do you know usg stooge is lying? a: his lips are moving'

04:16:09 asciilifeform: in the 'real world', 'your cryptography fails' sometimes leads to fat bribes in the form of business-as-usual from usg masters.

04:16:44 asciilifeform: all you gotta do is be the right usg catamite.

04:17:12 asciilifeform: !up referredbyloper

04:18:35 decimation: in one of his papers koblitz complains that the only thing 'cryptographers' care about is finding nifty new one-way functions

04:18:55 asciilifeform: it would be interesting to witness a post-purse cryptographic academia community

04:18:57 decimation: instead of trying to model and criticize anything resembling real-world crypto

04:18:59 asciilifeform: *purge

04:19:22 asciilifeform: picture if the usg cocksuckers were discovered and removed.

04:19:30 asciilifeform: what, if anything, would remain ?

04:21:23 decimation: "Apparently the availability of money from NSA had had a corrupting effect on some mathemati- cians, who started to think in nationalistic and jingoistic terms so that they could write their proposal in a way that they thought would appeal to NSA."

04:21:31 asciilifeform: if only only this.

04:21:51 decimation: ironically, if the NSA heckler is correct about the real-world pressure, such jingoism would be a disqualifier

04:22:52 decimation: "we thought our museum-fremen ways would impress you"

04:24:07 asciilifeform: i don't presently believe that nsa hired cryptographers for any purpose other than to take them out of circulation.

04:24:25 asciilifeform: (whatever talent they use in-house, they grow there, from larva.)

04:24:54 decimation: well, the job of usg is to spend money

04:25:13 decimation: just because they have in-house talent wouldn't exclude the possibility of pissing money away on other shit too

04:26:01 asciilifeform: decimation: the overall pattern is that they piss to drown, rather than nurture

04:29:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00042673 = 8.5773 BTC [+]

04:37:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38983 @ 0.00042393 = 16.5261 BTC [-] {2}

04:38:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7817 @ 0.00041033 = 3.2075 BTC [-]

05:02:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20104 @ 0.00042763 = 8.5971 BTC [+]

05:08:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103878 @ 0.0004321 = 44.8857 BTC [+] {4}

05:21:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00043125 = 22.8563 BTC [-] {2}

05:22:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00043335 = 1.4301 BTC [+]

05:27:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33601 @ 0.00043348 = 14.5654 BTC [+] {2}

05:32:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80908 @ 0.00043396 = 35.1108 BTC [+] {2}

05:40:35 punkman: up it goes

05:41:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 138000 @ 0.0004076 = 56.2488 BTC [-] {3}

06:15:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00040411 = 2.263 BTC [-]

06:26:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00041981 = 8.3962 BTC [+]

06:33:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28892 @ 0.00040275 = 11.6363 BTC [-]

06:41:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00040275 = 12.4853 BTC [-]

07:04:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23060 @ 0.00040639 = 9.3714 BTC [+] {2}

07:11:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102939 @ 0.00042085 = 43.3219 BTC [+] {4}

07:19:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15444 @ 0.00042803 = 6.6105 BTC [+]

07:34:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16259 @ 0.00043426 = 7.0606 BTC [+]

07:43:11 ben_vulpes: https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/57 << the bitrot continues

07:43:12 assbot: Documentation fixes for openssl-1.0.1g (Ubuntu 14.04) · Issue #57 · openssl/openssl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1IhY3C0 )

07:44:13 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell shinohai what platform did you end up compiling bitcoind on?

07:44:13 gribble: The operation succeeded.

07:54:55 cazalla: good evening

07:59:46 ben_vulpes: ey caz

08:07:19 cazalla: silence dance party still ravin'?

08:07:58 ben_vulpes: nah, lights on the tennis court turn out at ten

08:08:05 ben_vulpes: everyone goes home politely but the vagrants

08:12:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00043467 = 6.0202 BTC [+] {2}

08:55:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42555 @ 0.00043441 = 18.4863 BTC [-] {2}

09:25:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00042846 = 6.2127 BTC [-]

09:35:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30069 @ 0.00042632 = 12.819 BTC [-] {3}

09:35:24 BingoBoingo: !t m s.mpoe

09:35:24 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00041611 / 0.00043534 (5419913 shares, 2,255.31 BTC), 7D: 0.00033981 / 0.00038469 / 0.00043534 (18895378 shares, 7,268.90 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032646 / 0.00043534 (117114948 shares, 38,234.36 BTC)

09:43:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11437 @ 0.00042129 = 4.8183 BTC [-]

09:45:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00041703 = 12.1356 BTC [-]

09:46:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00041703 = 2.9192 BTC [-]

09:52:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00041545 = 4.9439 BTC [-]

09:56:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18090 @ 0.00040831 = 7.3863 BTC [-] {2}

10:18:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00042855 = 6.214 BTC [+] {2}

10:24:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66300 @ 0.00043535 = 28.8637 BTC [+] {3}

10:34:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.0004184 = 3.933 BTC [-]

10:35:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00041082 = 8.7915 BTC [-] {2}

10:38:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63350 @ 0.00040561 = 25.6954 BTC [-] {2}

10:47:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00041843 = 9.1009 BTC [+] {2}

10:55:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00041845 = 6.737 BTC [+]

11:39:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39243 @ 0.00041813 = 16.4087 BTC [-]

11:43:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0004074 = 14.0553 BTC [-] {4}

11:59:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3875 @ 0.00041845 = 1.6215 BTC [+]

12:01:50 jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES

12:01:52 assbot: 1970s Men’s Fashion Ads You Won’t Be Able To Unsee | Bored Panda ... ( http://bit.ly/1HOuV9E )

12:26:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00041074 = 3.5324 BTC [-]

13:04:47 jurov: ;;ticker

13:04:48 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 239.85, Best ask: 240.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 239.85, 24 hour volume: 22945.68371812, 24 hour low: 234.56, 24 hour high: 241.99, 24 hour vwap: None

13:08:31 davout: ;;ticker --currency EUR

13:08:32 gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.

13:08:36 davout: blergh

13:09:14 jurov: ;;ticker --currency EUR --market bitcoincentral

13:09:15 gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 209.51, Best ask: 213.9, Bid-ask spread: 4.39000, Last trade: 213.9, 24 hour volume: 121.68340784, 24 hour low: 206.0, 24 hour high: 214.0, 24 hour vwap: 209.82578069

13:11:10 jurov: gribs forgot how to convert

13:11:23 jurov: ;;ticker --currency copper

13:11:23 gribble: Error: 'copper' is not a valid currency code.

13:12:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56450 @ 0.00041192 = 23.2529 BTC [+] {2}

13:13:26 jurov: ;;ticker --currency "rickety reeds"

13:13:27 gribble: Error: 'rickety reeds' is not a valid currency code.

13:13:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00043163 = 13.9848 BTC [+] {3}

13:26:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50300 @ 0.0004331 = 21.7849 BTC [+] {3}

13:29:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00043424 = 8.2723 BTC [+] {2}

13:29:59 scoopbot_revived: X.EUR June 16th statement http://fr.anco.is/2015/x-eur-june-16th-statement/

13:30:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00041475 = 9.2904 BTC [-]

13:38:28 jurov: https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins)

13:38:29 assbot: Bitcoin Address 1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb ... ( http://bit.ly/1JVg8dv )

13:45:36 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local socialite!11". so in this

13:45:36 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 01:38:53; assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 21:22:20; asciilifeform: speaking of 'sf-86' form, does anyone else consider such things a peculiar anachronism? it isn't as if usg did not already have 100% of everything in that thing in some db or other

13:45:36 mircea_popescu: , the guy's action to disclose was "reasonable", and your approach only works if you're there as an envoy of the most serene republic or the republic of china, and they are actually afraid that if they misbehave their children are going to be used as ingredients in someone's supper.

13:46:53 mircea_popescu: ie, exactly as you point out, "the devil is not interested in lies, but in liars". so it is. with the caveat that it is not interested in THE TRUTH of anyone's being a liar, but in the useful political lie of anyone having been a liar.

13:47:41 mircea_popescu: so in this sense "cuomo might be corrupt". they... they just haven't figured it out yet lolz.

13:48:13 mircea_popescu: obama also "might" be corrupt. nixon "actually was" corrupt. the difference between these is left as an exercise, but not to the reader of history. it's strictly an exercise to the writer of history.

13:51:18 mircea_popescu: which is, incidentally, why any discussion with the devil may only logically start with a full and unwavering declaration from the devil that it is talking to ~the incorruptible~. ie, outside of its jurisdiction, they whose "corruptness" may not be judged by it.

13:57:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00040861 = 9.9701 BTC [-]

13:58:29 pete_dushenski: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49417.msg11627605#msg11627605

13:58:31 assbot: [CLOSING JUNE 30] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHe6My )

13:59:00 mircea_popescu: hahaha.

13:59:02 pete_dushenski: ^mining pool takes itself down because of 'bitlisence'

13:59:11 mircea_popescu: anyone ~else~ inclined to listen to gavin, take notice

13:59:22 mircea_popescu: that shit was top 2 not even A YEAR AGO.

13:59:38 pete_dushenski: btc guild listened to gavin ?

13:59:44 pete_dushenski: musta missed that

14:00:17 mircea_popescu: the original mike hearn induced hard fork.

14:00:47 pete_dushenski: aha them.

14:00:53 mircea_popescu: yes, them.

14:01:15 pete_dushenski: well good riddance to another scab.

14:01:35 mircea_popescu: aye

14:01:57 mircea_popescu: had fallen into irrelevancy for a while now anyway.

14:02:03 pete_dushenski: looks like they're down to only 3% of hashrate

14:02:08 mircea_popescu: mhm

14:02:08 pete_dushenski: at most

14:02:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00041361 = 9.8026 BTC [+]

14:02:48 mircea_popescu: the thing the "community" prefers to ignore is that its continued existence is fully predicated on it being made 80% of people who are not older than six months and don't intend to be.

14:03:32 mircea_popescu: just like the "community" of high voltage wire lickers, or "transsexuals" or what have you may only exist for as long as it's entirely made of either fresh idiots or the trolls that bait them

14:03:52 pete_dushenski: sucks when they grow up eh.

14:04:02 pete_dushenski: really takes a dent out of their "popular support"

14:04:11 mircea_popescu: how many people came here with a "omg i can't believe how stupid i was" sorta thing.

14:04:32 pete_dushenski: i still get comments on contravex saying exactly that.

14:04:38 pete_dushenski: and i expect this will continue

14:04:43 mircea_popescu: mhm

14:04:54 mircea_popescu: prolly next year too.

14:05:58 pete_dushenski: speaking of recent commenters, i just had a guy drop a line on buying russian corporate bonds through an etf on lse

14:06:02 pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/22/an-exercise-in-buying-17-russian-bonds/#comment-20614

14:06:03 assbot: An exercise in buying 17% Russian bonds | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHf9fo )

14:06:21 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Want to write up BTCGuild? I'm working on another social media failure story

14:06:51 pete_dushenski: not quite as juicy as the government bonds, but exposure to russian corporate bonds looks decently lucrative compared to western offerings

14:06:58 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: sure thing.

14:07:32 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski hard to price the sovereign risk for russia tho

14:08:47 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: well, not like pricing sovereign risk for usa is easy

14:09:04 pete_dushenski: in the short-term

14:09:30 pete_dushenski: mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0

14:09:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11454 @ 0.00041361 = 4.7375 BTC [+]

14:10:07 mats: i hear pogs are blowing up

14:10:32 mircea_popescu: who even knows.

14:10:40 mircea_popescu: i wanna see whathappens once putin retires.

14:10:52 TheNewDeal: methinks gribble has been drinking today

14:10:53 pete_dushenski: he's probably got a decade yet

14:10:57 TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats

14:11:00 gribble: Current Blocks: 361193 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 1686 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

14:11:09 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski entirely up to him i would think, but yeah.

14:11:56 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: as it's entirely up to you how long you feel like steering this ship. except you're, what, half putin's age.

14:13:10 pete_dushenski: hm. just checked, putin is 62, so not quite half but close enough

14:13:40 mircea_popescu: haha i think he's mebbe a tad more secure

14:14:12 pete_dushenski: give it time, man !

14:14:18 mircea_popescu: lol

14:14:34 pete_dushenski: what is this, a race ?

14:14:44 pete_dushenski: he'll beat you to the grave, fear not.

14:14:54 mircea_popescu: that is likely.

14:15:32 pete_dushenski: so will merkel, so will jinping.

14:16:08 mircea_popescu: the chinese have been workingon animmortality pill for 3`000 years

14:16:10 mircea_popescu: they might get it

14:16:24 mircea_popescu: bbs.

14:17:17 *: pete_dushenski goes to tap in the mines for qntra

14:18:20 decimation: pete_dushenski: mid- to long-term, sure, 100% chance of investment going to 0 < not so, usg will *always* repay usd debt

14:18:50 pete_dushenski: and i'll always have a giant boner for lindsay lohan

14:18:57 pete_dushenski: until she's not 16 anymore

14:18:58 decimation: the question is just how much usd it needs to magic into existence

14:19:05 pete_dushenski: until.... time

14:19:10 decimation: now, usg paying off gold debt....

14:19:38 decimation: the man who can print money is not a credit risk, he's a risk for something else

14:20:15 pete_dushenski: the man who can print money is perfectly capable of being a credit risk

14:20:33 pete_dushenski: you wanna lend money to mr. monopoly ?

14:21:02 decimation: are you supposing that in the crux he won't print?

14:21:04 pete_dushenski: you really think he can make enough money being a slumlord on James Street ?

14:21:20 decimation: well, his own scrip, sure

14:22:03 pete_dushenski: decimation: i'm supposing he will print 'in the crux' and that no one will take him anymore seriously than the streetwalker wearing 15 hats stacked one on top of the other

14:22:28 decimation: aye, well at that point anything denominated in usd is a risk

14:22:52 pete_dushenski: you see they both have a lottery ticket that they're still waiting to hear back from the corporate board on

14:23:06 pete_dushenski: the board had to reorganise and now everything's up in the air

14:23:20 pete_dushenski: but dun worry because the money is coming

14:23:36 decimation: the question of how long the dollar can 'levitate' as the world's reserve is an interesting one

14:23:44 decimation: and the most obvious 'sovereign risk' for usg

14:24:33 pete_dushenski: how long is kinda interesting in the sense of "how much time does that give us to stockpile useable computing hardware"

14:24:56 pete_dushenski: other than that...

14:25:12 pete_dushenski: the writing's on the wall and people can't ignore it indefinitely

14:25:27 decimation: agreed

14:25:27 TheNewDeal: pete_dushenski what's wrong with me wearing 15 hats?

14:26:08 pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: nothing if you want to be a street urchin.

14:26:23 TheNewDeal: the finest there is!

14:26:37 pete_dushenski: and do some modeling for 70's men's magazines

14:27:27 TheNewDeal: like so http://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2012/12/slack-power-350x500.jpg ?

14:27:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHVD2n )

14:27:43 pete_dushenski: decimation: if you're financially exposed to benefit from 'the event', as we all are, then it's a matter of how long can we be patient

14:27:58 decimation: yes, true

14:28:12 decimation: could be this year, could be 100 years

14:28:24 pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164899

14:28:24 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 12:01:50; jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES

14:29:41 pete_dushenski: decimation: could be, sure. 100 years ago : franz joseph i, today : merkel, 100 years hence : 4638 c4ca kinda thing

14:32:41 decimation: one obvious 'sword of Damocles' hanging over usg is the enormous dollar debt at very low interest

14:32:58 decimation: if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive

14:33:27 pete_dushenski: if they have to print to survive at 1%, for sure 10% will sting.

14:33:34 decimation: heh exactly

14:33:41 TheNewDeal: I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea

14:33:47 pete_dushenski: but hey, the pain plan cometh one way or another

14:33:57 pete_dushenski: the band-aid will be ripped off.

14:34:04 pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: you are ?

14:34:11 TheNewDeal: yes

14:34:15 pete_dushenski: why ?

14:34:21 decimation: the best I can tell usian muggles exhibit 'learned helplessness' that moldbug writes about

14:34:59 TheNewDeal: because every muggle is basically in debt up to their necks

14:35:09 TheNewDeal: so basically it's something they should comprehend easily

14:35:25 TheNewDeal: except for the making monopoly money via treasuries

14:35:29 pete_dushenski: decimation: and why shouldn't they ? there's clearly no future for them, despite their panglossian pretenses of "first, best, largest ever"

14:35:36 decimation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

14:35:37 assbot: Learned helplessness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IIovHO )

14:36:03 decimation: "Other experiments were performed with different animals with similar results. In all cases, the strongest predictor of a depressive response was lack of control over the aversive stimulus."

14:36:16 pete_dushenski: TheNewDeal: but if muggles can afford the debt and "everyone else is doing it"... hardly seems like a problem worth the bother

14:36:33 decimation: if you randomly zap an animal long enough, he learns to lay down and be useless, even if he could prevent it with simple actions

14:36:40 pete_dushenski: until, of course, reality smokes them upside the head and gives 'em a spin.

14:39:04 *: decimation off to the mines

14:43:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52100 @ 0.00042887 = 22.3441 BTC [+]

14:44:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33700 @ 0.00043051 = 14.5082 BTC [+] {2}

15:02:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70004 @ 0.00042953 = 30.0688 BTC [-] {2}

15:03:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107666 @ 0.0004352 = 46.8562 BTC [+] {4}

15:04:39 pete_dushenski: heya menahem

15:04:48 menahem: hey pimp slice

15:04:51 menahem: how are ya

15:05:06 pete_dushenski: no complaints man.

15:05:08 menahem: reading this: http://gtf.org/garzik/bitcoin/BIP100-blocksizechangeproposal.pdf

15:05:10 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GqFfCs )

15:05:17 pete_dushenski: summary ?

15:05:40 menahem: 1/2 way, but garzik increasing the block size

15:05:59 menahem: in order to help "startups grow"!!1

15:06:10 pete_dushenski: up to 20mb a la usgavin ?

15:07:37 menahem: "3. Simultaneously, add a new floating block size limit, set to 1MB."

15:07:41 menahem: almost done

15:08:03 menahem: just got to Strasbourg and i'm 1/2 asleep from the flight

15:11:59 pete_dushenski: menahem: o hey mr. traveler.

15:12:17 menahem: copped a last minute to Paris and took the train

15:12:35 pete_dushenski: you staying in france ?

15:12:57 menahem: yea, probably take some day trips to Switz and Germany

15:13:07 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/2MH3VRM.txt << qntsideration

15:13:08 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KW8Jey )

15:13:08 gribble: The operation succeeded.

15:13:41 pete_dushenski: menahem: wicked. you gone for a week or two or more ?

15:14:13 menahem: 2 weeks, then off to Ottawa for Canada day celebrations.

15:14:33 pete_dushenski: heh go nationalism !

15:14:37 menahem: ha

15:14:42 menahem: mostly to meet the in-laws :D

15:14:54 pete_dushenski: menahem: check out montreux

15:14:54 menahem: prob the best time to be in Ottawa, though.

15:14:58 pete_dushenski: if you get a chance

15:15:33 menahem: Yea lemme ask my Swiss bidness partner

15:16:04 menahem: he said it's nice. hey, btw, pete_dushenski you're off Formula 1 now ?

15:16:42 pete_dushenski: ayup. bernie has some work to do.

15:17:21 pete_dushenski: fuck these turbo engines, wide tires, and supercomputer aerodynamics

15:19:39 menahem: ha, you had sold me on it when you went to MTL last yr.

15:20:03 scoopbot_revived: BTC Guild: Closing After Choosing Wrong Side of History http://qntra.net/2015/06/btc-guild-closing-after-choosing-wrong-side-of-history/

15:22:33 menahem: pete_dushenski, i gotta roll. i'll be on tomorrow all rested up. cheers all.

15:27:08 pete_dushenski: menahem: later dude.

15:34:56 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: when i wrote "ancien fiat regime" it wasn't a typo of "ancient fiat regime"

15:35:06 BingoBoingo: oh

15:35:06 pete_dushenski: la ancien regime is a thing

15:35:38 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Then you gotta make your grammar work

15:35:54 BingoBoingo: acien regime fiat?

15:36:02 BingoBoingo: *ancien regime fiat?

15:36:05 pete_dushenski: lol perhaps so

15:36:32 pete_dushenski: i still like my way but you're the editor :)

15:37:11 jurov: it's meant the bourbon era? i don't get it

15:37:20 BingoBoingo: fixed. One can't simple inject roman words without injecting roman grammar

15:37:40 pete_dushenski: jurov: 'old guard'

15:38:01 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: cool.

15:41:16 davout: ;;ticker

15:41:17 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.19, Best ask: 245.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.65000, Last trade: 245.19, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None

15:41:41 davout: mircea_popescu: ^ 218 EUR/BTC

15:42:13 pete_dushenski: watch out 1000 eur/btc, here we coooome !

15:42:32 mircea_popescu: bwahaha TheNewDeal 's "anti establishment slacks" omaigerd.

15:43:03 mircea_popescu: <decimation> if rates creep up to > 10%, usg is gonna have to print to survive << actually even 1% is unsustainable atm.

15:43:20 mircea_popescu: which is why all this song and dance about recessions, low rates and permanently unelevated plateaus

15:44:34 mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> I'm suprised usian muggles don't even comprehend this idea << they don't care one way or another, because they aren't actually invested in the thing. it's a meal ticket. who is going to care whether their meal ticket had a good day at work or a bad day at work ? it's work, it's what it does, fuck it.

15:45:09 mircea_popescu: which is why setbacks in the indies caused commotion in london, but also why utter rape of the us throughout all its engagements since blackpresident and perhaps before don't even raise an eyebrow.

15:45:37 mircea_popescu: who the shit cares ? the "citizens" certainly don't. just as long as the new, improved, electronic and digital food stamps make it on time.

15:48:06 funkenstein_: !up ascii_field

15:48:48 funkenstein_: ;;ticker

15:48:50 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.91, Best ask: 247.98, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 247.89, 24 hour volume: 29095.24612131, 24 hour low: 235.19, 24 hour high: 243.94, 24 hour vwap: None

15:50:15 pete_dushenski: dollar crashing today.

15:50:54 pete_dushenski: mebbe because donald trump just announced his presidential candidacy.

15:51:26 pete_dushenski: and everyone's worried he's going to use the last few drops of water to greenify another golf course

15:52:07 funkenstein_: pete_dushenski, nice qntra piece :D

15:52:19 funkenstein_: trump? serious?

15:52:30 pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: cheers. and yuppers.

15:53:33 pete_dushenski: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pornhub-space-program-sexploration#/story

15:53:34 assbot: Pornhub Space Program - SEXPLORATION | Indiegogo ... ( http://bit.ly/1MZA5Qi )

15:53:50 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-06-2015#1164710 << common name.

15:53:50 assbot: Logged on 15-06-2015 20:32:09; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-06-2015#1164376 << isn't megan fox that porn cyborg woman ?

15:54:07 jurov: ;;ticker

15:54:09 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.0, Best ask: 251.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.84000, Last trade: 252.0, 24 hour volume: 32018.7302065, 24 hour low: 235.5, 24 hour high: 247.1, 24 hour vwap: None

15:54:39 pete_dushenski: porn in space looking to raise... $3.4 mn

15:54:40 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164920 << idk i'm getting pretty close to that

15:54:40 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 13:38:28; jurov: https://blockchain.info/address/1CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb lol the "public note" (and no, CoinBr will not double your coins)

15:54:47 funkenstein_: space, the final frontier. to boldly go where no chumpatron has gone before

15:55:13 jurov: lolk i forgot to put "instantly"

15:55:15 pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: pretty close to what ?

15:55:25 danielpbarron: doubling coin

15:55:36 pete_dushenski: snap. nice work !

15:56:11 pete_dushenski: at this rate, $3.4 mn for space porn will be 10 btc by tuesday.

15:56:28 pete_dushenski: draw the line to see for yourself !

15:56:38 TheNewDeal: indubitably

15:57:03 *: pete_dushenski leaves this as an exercise for the reader

15:58:09 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164922 << by this token, it doesn't even matter if mr chump signs or not. they will 'sign' for him, if needed.

15:58:09 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 13:45:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164751 << i think you broadly miss the point there. it doesn't matter what it ACTUALLY asks. what matters is that once you sign and serve it, they will pretend it had asked whatever it is they wish it were the case it had asked at any later point, which is how "it doesn't ask about fucktoys" turned into "paetreus broke the law by visiting a local social

15:58:24 ascii_field: not like usg admits crypto-sigs

16:03:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00043555 = 6.555 BTC [+]

16:06:01 pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: you should be trading for m.mpif !

16:06:37 danielpbarron: eh idk how good i really am; I'm finally starting to break even in USD terms I think

16:07:29 pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: your skill is measured in your performance in btc terms

16:07:51 pete_dushenski: mebbe it's too soon to say that you're more than just lucky

16:10:42 BingoBoingo: !t m s.mpoe

16:10:42 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00039511 / 0.00042046 / 0.00043555 (4516394 shares, 1,899.01 BTC), 7D: 0.00034281 / 0.00039037 / 0.00043555 (17417074 shares, 6,799.25 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00032758 / 0.00043555 (117158331 shares, 38,379.04 BTC)

16:11:21 danielpbarron: i didn't see mpoe going as high as it is right now

16:11:45 danielpbarron: still got some though so w/e

16:16:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00043555 = 12.9358 BTC [+]

16:17:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34770 @ 0.00043561 = 15.1462 BTC [+] {2}

16:22:52 jurov: s.mpoe may have some relation to today's btc bump

16:23:13 jurov: but iirc someone did check for correlations and there was none

16:26:37 jurov: !up _biO_

16:26:40 jurov: !up _biO__

16:36:14 mircea_popescu: davout not bad

16:36:36 davout: mircea_popescu: what?

16:37:58 mircea_popescu: you highlighted me re euro price

16:40:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00042681 = 4.9937 BTC [-]

16:40:45 mircea_popescu: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=bitstampUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& << lookin' pretty.

16:40:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GbVznp )

16:44:22 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164761 >> zing

16:44:22 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:21:13; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> when an otherwise smart guy is too stupid to get out of the rain. << or insists, operating under a complete lack of evidence that "it can't possibly keep going on like this much longer!"

16:45:24 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164762 << ye hear that alf ? b,tmsro~ hereby orders you to grow a beard and wear a hat.

16:45:24 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:24:53; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> that sounds pretty jewish << he's probably the most jewish jew in here - endlessly pessimistic about everything, everything costs $maxint, gurls are unreadable, and practically a talmudic scholar to boot

16:45:54 pete_dushenski: don't forget the payas.

16:46:05 mircea_popescu: and papayas, ya

16:46:19 mircea_popescu: can hoola while he schools.

16:46:27 pete_dushenski: lmao

16:46:29 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

16:47:00 ascii_field: beard can wait for the camps

16:47:06 ascii_field: (and they'll give me a hat)

16:47:27 pete_dushenski: alf is definitely of the old skool, old country judaism : expects life to be rapey and generally full of suck

16:48:16 ascii_field: hard to go wrong with this algo.

16:48:16 mircea_popescu: he's a russian orthodox jew

16:48:18 pete_dushenski: the optimists found their ways to the colonies where they could dream of valhalla, much to the detriment of art, goodness, etc

16:48:28 ascii_field: (hence why this is the only aspect of judaism that survived in su)

16:48:47 mircea_popescu: nah, the one aspect of judaism that explains why judaism survived at all survived in su too :

16:48:52 mircea_popescu: rachel's still a slut.

16:49:10 ascii_field: this too presumably lives somewhere. but i will have to take mircea_popescu's word for it

16:50:31 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164769 << dunno how good for your wrists that thing is

16:50:31 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 02:59:10; ben_vulpes: dpb's a clit tickler!

16:52:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50750 @ 0.00042647 = 21.6434 BTC [-] {2}

17:09:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9879 @ 0.00042664 = 4.2148 BTC [+]

17:24:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00042662 = 16.6595 BTC [-] {2}

17:46:37 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164790 << i really don't get it, isn't the point of these things to set an adolescent hookup ?

17:46:37 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:33:23; Adlai: and this was a few years back. haven't seen many of those 'parties' since then, either

17:48:02 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164796 << the effects of advanced senility can not be distinguished from the results of working for a government like

17:48:02 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:42:33; decimation: seems to me that he's going senile

17:52:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6846 @ 0.00042681 = 2.9219 BTC [+]

18:00:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18154 @ 0.00042681 = 7.7483 BTC [+]

18:02:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00043367 = 14.0509 BTC [+]

18:10:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26913 @ 0.00043139 = 11.61 BTC [-] {2}

18:11:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28480 @ 0.0004228 = 12.0413 BTC [-]

18:22:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00042186 = 17.2119 BTC [-] {2}

18:27:51 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164801 << ford went to work in a horsedrawn buggy for most of his life too.

18:27:51 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 03:45:25; mod6: staggers the imagination

18:28:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38415 @ 0.00043609 = 16.7524 BTC [+]

18:44:43 mircea_popescu: today in frog history, http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mak5d2AZaK1rz41xbo1_1280.jpg

18:44:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1J2HQq0 )

18:46:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44097 @ 0.00042541 = 18.7593 BTC [-]

19:00:10 jurov: would we have ever heard of bitcoin if satoshi eschewed windows?

19:00:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35850 @ 0.00043609 = 15.6338 BTC [+]

19:01:20 mircea_popescu: i can definitely say i would have.

19:01:50 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:02:04 *: ascii_field confused. wtf good did it do anyone that he used winblows ?

19:02:23 mircea_popescu: i think his idea is "prosti da' multi"

19:02:24 jurov: mircea_popescu: you got the preport from people who used it on linux?

19:02:38 jurov: *report

19:03:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86035 @ 0.00043768 = 37.6558 BTC [+] {4}

19:04:24 mircea_popescu: jurov yes. all the people that insisted and eventually got me to check it out, on both episodes, run open source stuff

19:04:32 mircea_popescu: most of which some sort of linux

19:15:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26398 @ 0.00042631 = 11.2537 BTC [-]

19:33:00 BingoBoingo: !UP ascii_field

20:00:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51293 @ 0.00043725 = 22.4279 BTC [+] {2}

20:04:15 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

20:11:23 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1164990 <<< such a shame about that one eh

20:11:23 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 14:18:50; pete_dushenski: and i'll always have a giant boner for lindsay lohan

20:14:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.00043883 = 15.5346 BTC [+] {2}

20:16:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10602 @ 0.00042631 = 4.5197 BTC [-]

20:19:15 BingoBoingo: cazalla: What's the shame. She made money young and nao does what she wants?

20:19:57 lobbes: BingoBoingo: shame due to her becoming a walking corpse

20:20:32 BingoBoingo: lobbes: Maybe she's secretly trans-zombie but not out of that closet yet?

20:20:33 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165022 <<< two of those adverts sport "made in australia" (bonds and jockey).. there was a bonds factory not far from where i grew up and my mother would take us in there now and again to buy factory seconds as it was cheaper.. in they end they closed up shop and moved to china

20:20:33 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 14:28:24; assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 12:01:50; jurov: http://www.boredpanda.com/1970s-mens-fashion-ads/ lol YES

20:20:43 cazalla: BingoBoingo, lobbes pretty much has it, girl isn't even 30 yet believe it or not

20:20:56 cazalla: mind you, i'd still fuck her

20:21:05 BingoBoingo: I know.

20:24:06 jurov: anyone else got likely scam from azelphur.irc@gmail.com ?

20:24:22 jurov: "Hello my friend , how is going, long time i didn't see u on IRC .When u have time pls email me i have some offer .Thanks"

20:24:28 Azelphur: heh, not my address / not an address I control.

20:24:32 BingoBoingo: jurov: Got one fron DoctorBTC

20:24:49 Azelphur: there has been some guy on a mission impersonating me on OTC recently, must be the same fellow.

20:25:23 BingoBoingo: Replied saying no, not at this price figuring it was legit.

20:25:53 punkman: do these come at your gpg email address?

20:25:59 jurov: yes

20:26:02 BingoBoingo: yes

20:29:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00044046 = 2.7309 BTC [+]

20:30:24 mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!

20:31:06 BingoBoingo: Well, the -otc dom

20:31:27 davout: !b 2

20:31:28 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3VFDE27.txt )

20:35:52 lobbes: !up ascii_field

20:36:45 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165236 << wait till they start uploading 'magic' keys for us to sks

20:36:45 assbot: Logged on 16-06-2015 20:30:24; mircea_popescu: nuts dude, by now people are actually trying to impersonate the b-a dom ?!

20:40:15 mike_c: does anyone around here know anything about the internals of the bitstamp trading engine? or maybe an engineer who works there?

20:40:49 jurov: mike_c: why? kako had some rumors

20:41:29 mike_c: i feel like i have a problem similar to theirs.. I've got a transaction engine running in c#, but websites built in python.

20:41:46 mike_c: I know their site runs off django, but i seriously doubt their trading engine is python

20:42:03 mike_c: I'm curious how they handle communication between those pieces

20:42:42 jurov: api goes straight to trade engine, i guess

20:43:13 mike_c: but you still must have a lot of data sharing. two software stacks that hit the same database? seems problematic to manage

20:43:35 mike_c: or you have an api that handles everything they have to talk to each other, which also seems like a pain.

20:43:56 jurov: how would the db hard to manage?

20:44:11 mike_c: !up gernika

20:44:19 gernika: thx

20:44:33 mike_c: change in the db, gotta mirror that on both codebases..

20:44:41 mike_c: not very DRY

20:45:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132050 @ 0.0004406 = 58.1812 BTC [+] {4}

20:45:19 mike_c: gernika says their trading engine was written in node.js as of a couple years ago..

20:45:35 jurov: !s kakobrekla mysql backup

20:45:36 assbot: 0 results for 'kakobrekla mysql backup' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kakobrekla+mysql+backup

20:45:38 trinque: eh not necessarily; they'd be hitting the same db but for different reasons

20:45:42 jurov: !s kakobrekla mysql

20:45:42 assbot: 6 results for 'kakobrekla mysql' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kakobrekla+mysql

20:45:45 gernika: This was roughly around the time of the scam foundation's first conf in San Jose.

20:46:03 jurov: ^ last hit there

20:47:10 kakobrekla: iirc they had a single process with a half a second sleep each time for engine

20:47:27 mike_c: nice

20:47:44 kakobrekla: hence bids bigger than asks and shit

20:48:13 gernika: ah shit - that's right they were usnig node.js for the price ticker

20:48:35 mike_c: greater number of software stacks = greater success

20:49:51 trinque: mike_c: anything that might be duplicated between two things accessing the db could be a view in the db instead

20:50:29 trinque: tends to be my opinion that people have largely forgotten the art of database views

20:50:34 mike_c: yeah.. i guess i'm thinking about business logic. needs to be separated very cleanly for this to work.

20:50:56 trinque: all that hairy node/django/whatever... it all tends to be poorly written substitutes for db queries

20:53:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 185050 @ 0.00042846 = 79.2865 BTC [-] {3}

20:54:45 cazalla: http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/2586559 "On average, Bitcoinist has 350,000+ unique visitors a month with 550,000 page views, and this is increasing every month." it's a press release mind you.. it's growing so much they're discounting their ad spots!

20:54:46 assbot: Bitcoin News Platform Bitcoinist.net Experiences Rapid Growth Announces 30% Discount For Advertisers - Press Release - Digital Journal ... ( http://bit.ly/1TrxUJA )

20:56:15 ben_vulpes: trinque: but sql's scary

20:56:29 ben_vulpes: i can't handle relational algebra

20:56:32 ben_vulpes: math is hard

20:56:38 ben_vulpes: and django does so much thinking for me!

20:58:30 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes uses django?

20:58:39 mike_c: it says so on his webpage

20:58:48 thestringpuller: cascadianhacker?

20:59:10 BingoBoingo: nah, his something jimmies page

20:59:18 trinque: hueeee

20:59:27 trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah and django has a sweet conference!

21:02:08 ben_vulpes: so friendly!

21:02:12 ben_vulpes: and the people have such cool hair!

21:03:35 ben_vulpes: 'something jimmies' < hyu

21:03:57 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: you ever get the rng working ?

21:05:22 mircea_popescu: cazalla how much do they charge ?

21:06:00 ben_vulpes: ascii_field: need a digital-analog capture story

21:06:09 ben_vulpes: sorry, analog-digital capture

21:06:24 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: no you don't. it's a logic-level out!

21:06:30 mircea_popescu: in other news, i stumbled upon a selection of trade engines : http://i.imgur.com/oBOraiD.jpg

21:06:31 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GcrNPk )

21:06:54 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

21:07:07 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: v_high ~= v_supply

21:07:20 mike_c: da fuq are those? porcupines?

21:07:45 BingoBoingo: mike_c: Hedgehogs

21:08:09 ben_vulpes: what hardware an i use to capture that, though? i'm blocked on true serial capture until i procure a device that has true serial in

21:08:09 BingoBoingo: porcupines and that hand would likely have quills embedded already

21:08:30 mike_c: heh, yeah. cute little buggers.

21:09:25 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: try ftdi245

21:09:52 ascii_field: ben_vulpes: or logic analyzer (unlike the affair i described last week, this doesn't need a fast one)

21:10:07 ascii_field: if you own so much as a 1970s-era analyzer, it'll do

21:11:42 BingoBoingo: All day today there has been a rather spectacular box turtle nomming on the slugs in the front flowerbeds, hope the little dude settles down there for a bit

21:12:31 BingoBoingo: "If a pet hedgehog appears to be gaining too much weight, it is important that the hedgehog?s caretaker cut back on high fat foods and increase exercise. Hedgehogs vary in size so there is no "goal weight" for a hedgehog, but if they can no longer roll completely into a ball it is a pretty clear sign of obesity" << hedgehogs can become hedge hamplanets too.

21:13:10 ben_vulpes: hamplanetoid

21:13:24 ben_vulpes: hamrock trapped in a hamity well

21:13:32 ben_vulpes: hamityvill horror

21:14:24 *: BingoBoingo actually saw and AMBULATORY! galaxy today at the liquor store. Circumfrence roughly 0.8x height

21:16:08 ben_vulpes: i've seen a bit more of the same lately.

21:16:33 BingoBoingo: Was driving suspiciously nice car and carrying brown bag out at 8:15ish in the morning

21:17:00 BingoBoingo: Sorry, not circumfrence, diameter

21:17:38 BingoBoingo: Diameter is the one you can eyeball in profile view. Diameter 0.8x height.

21:18:19 BingoBoingo: circumfrence 0.8x height might not even qualify as planet sometimes.

21:19:23 thestringpuller: the real question BingoBoingo is why were you at the liquor store at 8:15ish in the morning?

21:19:29 ben_vulpes: orbital body

21:19:41 BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Cheapest cigarettes in town

21:19:51 thestringpuller: Answer is acceptable.

21:20:31 BingoBoingo: Also switched a big chunk of domicile's lighting to LED today so need liquor later.

21:20:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34800 @ 0.00042266 = 14.7086 BTC [-] {2}

21:34:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122600 @ 0.00043877 = 53.7932 BTC [+] {3}

21:39:06 thestringpuller: !up ascii_field

21:44:33 trinque: https://medium.com/@InertialLemon/apple-s-bitcode-telegraphs-future-cpu-plans-a7b90d326228 << I read this as indicating that in the future, Apple apps will be submitted as signed "bitcode", not a signed executable binary

21:44:35 assbot: Apple’s Bitcode Telegraphs Future CPU Plans — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cc8NzO )

21:44:48 trinque: leaving apple free to modify the thing at will from that point forward?

21:45:04 mats: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=786909

21:45:08 assbot: #786909 - chromium: unconditionally downloads binary blob - Debian Bug report logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cc8V2e )

21:46:02 trinque: mats: "ok google" without consent, loool

21:47:04 mats: oops

21:49:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00042746 = 10.0453 BTC [-]

21:49:51 ascii_field: 'After upgrading chromium to 43, I noticed that when it is running and immediately after the machine is on-line it silently starts downloading "Chrome Hotword Shared Module" extension, which contains a binary without source code. There seems no opt-out config.'

21:50:46 mats: all this stuff referring to the OPM hack as "cyber katrina" is also great

21:50:55 mats: "cyber 9/11"

21:51:26 mats: "cyber pearl harbor"

21:51:32 ascii_field: so where the hell is the public dump.

21:51:59 trinque: I'm sure the chinese would rather quietly blackmail people for a while

21:53:51 trinque: so which is it... is cyber-sekurity important, or does encryption "lead us to a dark place"

21:53:57 trinque: bunch of bumbling morons

21:55:05 *: ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg

21:55:39 BingoBoingo: ascii_field: Just puts usg's loyal still more in debt

21:56:19 trinque: ascii_field: I think you're right that the most critical systems are held to a *much* higher standard than this

21:56:55 trinque: yet those critical systems may be completely surrounded by leper colonies of lesser employees' winderz boxen

21:57:49 ascii_field: trinque: recall when pentagon was pwned ?

21:58:01 ascii_field: what, of any consequence, as far as publicly known, walked away ?

21:58:48 trinque: maybe nothing, though if it had I might say otherwise publically

22:00:15 ascii_field: other thing is, only 'positive' items are even theoretically possible to authenticate. that is, if you find a leak purporting to be from the directorate-of-cracking-rsa, stating that 'sixteen quintillion bezzlars and still no result,' this could be disinfo. whereas 'here's how to factor $maxint on a pocket calculator' is testable.

22:01:54 ascii_field: in as far as i can tell, all of the 'compromises' of the past decade are cultivated reichstag fires, arranged to fatten the kompyooter insekoority 'industry'

22:02:31 ascii_field: and the agent of a particular compromise is the sysadmin who installed winblows, and only distantly and secondarily anybody else.

22:03:11 trinque: yeah I can see that angle

22:03:24 trinque: inconsequential breach == huge check to contractor X

22:03:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00042142 = 6.3634 BTC [-]

22:08:54 cazalla: mircea_popescu, $14.5 USD / 1K impressions for top 728x90 and 300x250 $9 / 1K impressions on the lower end

22:09:10 cazalla: minimum of 50k imp

22:11:48 jurov: !s blokchain

22:11:49 assbot: 0 results for 'blokchain' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=blokchain

22:12:12 jurov: public notice: never open "blockchain" links in email

22:12:56 jurov: i have got this(open with js off!): https://blokchain.info/address/1CXnMbiWkxfNaVMwfsEBqgZUDMgCpjcaGh/

22:12:58 assbot: Bitcoin Address ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSnxvE )

22:13:23 jurov: with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued

22:13:32 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

22:14:26 trinque: jurov: used curl, didn't spot anything; XSS?

22:14:57 jurov: no, that tx plainly does not exist. look very closely to the url

22:15:11 trinque: oh lol

22:16:09 jurov: maybe there's some bad js too, but noscript blocked it

22:17:25 ascii_field: appears to be a single-shot

22:17:28 ascii_field: (loads 1ce per ip)

22:17:34 ascii_field: classic sp4mz0r trick

22:18:55 punkman: jurov, guy pretending he deposited to coinbr?

22:19:28 jurov: no, coinroll (but same applies)

22:20:03 punkman: guess he does this a lot if he made up a blockhain.info clone. gotta wonder who actually fell for it

22:20:29 ascii_field: https://transparencytoolkit.org/icwatch << it will be interesting to see, when the chinese list is spilled, if the two agree.

22:20:30 assbot: ICWATCH | Transparency Toolkit ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSnVKC )

22:20:36 ascii_field: if not, one or both is disinfo.

22:20:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46203 @ 0.00043694 = 20.1879 BTC [+] {2}

22:21:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21497 @ 0.00044277 = 9.5182 BTC [+]

22:25:28 ascii_field: http://phasezero.gawker.com/this-shadow-government-agency-is-scarier-than-the-nsa-1707179377 << more lulz

22:25:30 assbot: This Shadow Government Agency Is Scarier Than the NSA ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSocNE )

22:37:24 Azelphur: jurov: mind forwarding that email to me? I'm curious :)

22:38:04 jurov: which? the one "from you" or the "deposit"?

22:38:13 Azelphur: the one from the fake me :)

22:38:28 Azelphur: azelphur@azelphur.com be the real address :)

22:39:22 jurov: i quoted it here whole, there was only one sentence

22:39:32 jurov: or you want to see headers?

22:39:36 Azelphur: yep, I want the headers

22:40:14 jurov: sent

22:40:18 BingoBoingo: The reply looks like: "I know , i need them tonight ,it is stupid to ask ,but if u can loan me i will be happy + u get % from me . U get them back for 24h with 5% profit"

22:40:20 Azelphur: thanks :)

22:41:33 cazalla: http://imgur.com/a/CJWTD

22:41:34 assbot: Olive Python eating Australian Freshwater Crocodile - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1JSoRPa )

22:44:30 BingoBoingo: So, Jurassic World actually surprisingly good film. Improvement over the original in that it portrays people at their actual level of stupidity.

22:48:53 cazalla: might go and see it in a few weeks time, not too fussed on sitting through 30 minutes of commercials with a bunch of louts

22:49:14 cazalla: (i was actually tempted to go last night but settled on rambo@home)

22:52:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55650 @ 0.00044307 = 24.6568 BTC [+] {3}

23:00:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00042255 = 18.5499 BTC [-] {4}

23:09:18 BingoBoingo: It takes just a few minutes of time to get over the gut reaction that the dinosaurs should look better, but the practical effects in the first movie were so good and inflation adjusted this one had a much smaller budget.

23:09:57 BingoBoingo: The dynamics of the human drama tho, very realistic even if the characters themselves are rather stupid

23:21:17 BingoBoingo: scoopbot_revived: fetch?

23:21:35 BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli

23:21:35 scoopbot_revived: Hulk Hogan Puts Denton's Control of Gawker Media on Life Support http://qntra.net/2015/06/hulk-hogan-puts-dentons-control-of-gawker-media-on-life-support/

23:21:57 BingoBoingo: ^ Cuckolding just for you mircea_popescu

23:24:08 felipelalli: BingoBoingo: I'd like to watch. I thought it was filled of cliches.

23:24:28 BingoBoingo: felipelalli: It is, but in a good way

23:24:47 felipelalli: BingoBoingo: nice! I think worth try.

23:25:17 BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Probably the best film out of Hollywood since "Million Dollar Baby"

23:25:46 felipelalli: BingoBoingo: wow! That is surprisingly to me

23:26:04 BingoBoingo: felipelalli: I may also be a flawed judge of films though.

23:26:31 BingoBoingo: I thoroughly enjoyed "The Highlander" as an example

23:26:34 felipelalli: ahhahaha well, I'll try anyway and I tell you!

23:27:03 felipelalli: BingoBoingo: what about "Transformers"? The worst film I watched ever.

23:27:13 BingoBoingo: If you are too risk averse you could always try the safe torrent and then pay option

23:27:20 BingoBoingo: Much better than Transformers

23:28:14 BingoBoingo: Transformers kind sucked except for the visual spectacle of robot combat in the first movie and never even had that in the later films

23:28:26 BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1

23:28:36 BingoBoingo: !gettrust Duffer1

23:28:37 assbot: Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user Duffer1: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=BingoBoingo&to=Duffer1 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Duffer1/

23:28:50 BingoBoingo: !gettrust assbot Duffer1

23:28:51 assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user Duffer1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=Duffer1 | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/Duffer1/

23:29:31 BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Are you familar with how to auth with assbot post split?

23:29:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55500 @ 0.00041964 = 23.29 BTC [-] {2}

23:30:00 felipelalli: BingoBoingo: why gribble don't catch the ! commands in this channel as well? I use !gettrust to gribble in other channels.

23:30:20 felipelalli: ;;gettrust BingoBoingo

23:30:20 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user BingoBoingo: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 7 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=BingoBoingo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BingoBoingo | Rated since: Wed Mar 20 03:45:45 2013

23:30:28 BingoBoingo: felipelalli: Because in this one gribble only responds to ;; command

23:30:39 felipelalli: BingoBoingo: is that a modified gribble?

23:30:55 BingoBoingo: No idea.

23:31:25 felipelalli: Is that a modified gribble?

23:31:26 felipelalli: ;;8ball

23:31:27 gribble: About as likely as pigs flying.

23:36:05 BingoBoingo: Any obvious errors in the Hulkster piece?

23:41:18 mats: felipelalli: same gribble, assbot takes ! so the trigger is different to prevent collisions

23:41:38 BingoBoingo: OpenBSD advantage over "Linux" plan for continuity of leadership http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-16/the-creator-of-linux-on-the-future-without-him

23:41:39 assbot: The Creator of Linux on the Future Without Him - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm2Iu0 )

23:42:12 cazalla: BingoBoingo, turned an a to an an but other than that, gg

23:42:25 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Thanks

23:43:42 mircea_popescu: wait... hulk hogan ?!

23:43:53 felipelalli: mats: but gribble also takes ! in other channels, but in this channel gribble ignores it.

23:43:58 mircea_popescu: is that some wrestler dude from back when i still did teenagers one at a time ?!

23:44:25 mats: yes

23:44:29 cazalla: mircea_popescu, that's him and he stretched as far as down under back then

23:44:43 mircea_popescu: wow.

23:45:16 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed it was the dude who lifted Andre the Giant

23:45:40 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://qntra.net/2015/06/btc-guild-closing-after-choosing-wrong-side-of-history/#comment-27640

23:45:41 assbot: BTC Guild: Closing After Choosing Wrong Side of History | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm3p6o )

23:45:41 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:45:42 mircea_popescu: so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ?

23:45:44 cazalla: andre was bigger than himself down under

23:45:52 mircea_popescu: scarcely could there be more poetry in ther world.

23:46:03 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so let me get this straight, usg is trying its damndest to sink bitcoin by sending every washed up child pr0n dude this way ; meanwhile we're just sitting pretty while the flagship usg propaganda tool self-sinks under the weight of washed up wrestlers ? << Yes

23:46:07 cazalla: GBANGA! (who is this guy lol)

23:46:13 mircea_popescu: i dunno but he's active.

23:46:36 mircea_popescu: also, heather clem looks made to be fucked on cam and naught else.

23:47:12 BingoBoingo: Also, the "Love Sponge" is a radio personality and not a fellow wrassler

23:47:21 mircea_popescu: "I should make it clear: we would have settled too, in the interest of fighting another day, if Hogan?s demands were reasonable and the story flawed in any way. But now that the trial is on, we intend to fight it as far as we need to and we can." = we have as much money as josh garza

23:48:05 mircea_popescu: radio personality ?!

23:48:11 mircea_popescu: what is this, the late 1890s ?

23:48:28 mircea_popescu: anyway very nice work BingoBoingo

23:48:33 cazalla: mircea_popescu, which isn't much these days, it would appear he pawned his domain https://forum.gethashing.com/t/scam-gawminers-paybase-zencloud/67/14048

23:48:34 assbot: [SCAM] GAWMiners, Paybase, ZenCloud - GetHashing Crypto Community Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1GLXow7 )

23:48:52 mircea_popescu: heh.

23:49:01 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You know like the assholes who keep music from playing on music stations in the morning so instead you set the car's radio to less shitty talk radio all day

23:49:31 mircea_popescu: cazalla i doubt they're selling anything whatsoever at those prices, but hey. the world was made out of pretense.

23:49:43 mircea_popescu: not this world, but a world somewhere sometime. let's pretend it was, at any rate.

23:49:51 cazalla: well if he has no intention to repay the loan, i'm sure he is happy to take anything he can get

23:50:46 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways from what I understand Nick Denton's peak wealth was right around 8-9 figure sum of dollars and he sunk nearly all of it on Gawker Media liberalizing everything. This is likely a move to justify outside investors covering his loss and letting USG propaganda outlet pass to other hands.

23:51:43 mircea_popescu: mats hey, it worked for "cybersex"

23:52:03 BingoBoingo: O.o https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3a3mub/hulk_hogangawker_lawsuit_false_flag_for/

23:52:04 assbot: Hulk Hogan-Gawker Lawsuit False Flag For Investment Scam? : conspiracy ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sm4oDO )

23:52:10 mircea_popescu: * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D

23:52:24 BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli

23:53:09 mircea_popescu: <jurov> with claim of missing deposit and much confusion ensued << nuts eh.

23:53:29 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> * ascii_field still not convinced that this is any kind of actual defeat for usg << and if i serve it cooked you still wouldn't be. it's like a religion with you :D << USG atm is in its "Opium Wars" phase except it is both Britain and China.

23:54:40 mats: it really pleases me that qntra works in lynx

23:54:53 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo no way in fuck did anyone sink 1 billion into gawker

23:54:55 mircea_popescu: !up DanielBTC

23:55:11 mircea_popescu: the entire budget for the thing's entire existence is a coupla mil or so. this spercifically discounting all pretense.

23:56:24 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: 9's hundred million? But yeah couple mill per year. Even the first years Gawker cost a few million a year when it was one hired girl and the celebrity stalker because "viral" cost millions paid to Newsweek and other dead trees to get any attention at all.

23:56:44 BingoBoingo: mats: Qntra is optimized for lynx

23:56:54 BingoBoingo: Intentionally optimized for lynx

23:58:45 mats: hogan cucked

23:58:47 mats: thats rich

23:58:50 shinohai: ;;later tell ben_vulpes compiled on Debian Jessie and Ubuntu 14.04

23:58:50 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:59:33 cazalla: if the price keeps going up so fast i'm gonna get fucked on that above $280 bet :\ pls wait 4 days kgo

23:59:46 BingoBoingo: mats: Well, if you are going to get a bull to cuck your wife, but you don't want black in your wife... limits your options...