Transcript for 16-08-2016, 96 lines:
00:13:32 ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: "work on" what?
01:20:49 funkenstein_: modern alchemy
10:30:37 kakobrekla: ben_vulpes simplified, getting his money out
10:31:52 kakobrekla: because you see, with mp, pgp contracts work only for as long as you continuously suck his dick and eat his shit.
13:58:57 asciilifeform: sooooo how come we hear this only via kakobrekla .
14:00:49 kakobrekla: because rest is busy eating shit.
14:01:56 asciilifeform: well your mysterious broker is tired, presumably, of eating
14:02:01 asciilifeform: why he is not here ? speaking for self ?
14:02:12 kakobrekla: not even mysterious.
14:02:43 asciilifeform: ... jurov ?
14:02:48 kakobrekla: mno.
14:02:58 kakobrekla: the one predating him
14:03:00 asciilifeform: i never met any other mp-brokerz
14:03:13 kakobrekla: exercise for alert reader?
14:03:30 kakobrekla: some folks will defo know.
14:04:07 asciilifeform: lovely time yer having in the shadow and the smoke, kakobrekla .
14:04:28 asciilifeform: but i have nfi why you expect folks not in same shadow to be convinced by your seekrit evidence.
14:05:23 kakobrekla: i dont think those folks could be convinced either way.
14:05:32 asciilifeform: 'unnamed broker, and definitely not jurov, but Some Folks In The Know Would Know, is having trouble withdrawing mpex.'
14:05:35 asciilifeform: mmok.
14:05:38 kakobrekla: confirmation bias and all
14:06:14 kakobrekla: eh alf, he was here chatting mere weeks ago.
14:28:15 asciilifeform: bugpowder ?
18:13:43 punkman: ;;balance 19BY2XCgbDe6WtTVbTyzM9eR3LYr6VitWK
18:13:44 gribble: 1.62803067
18:15:02 punkman: ;;ticker
18:15:03 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 579.01, Best ask: 579.68, Bid-ask spread: 0.67000, Last trade: 579.0, 24 hour volume: 4870.98800479, 24 hour low: 561.0, 24 hour high: 579.77, 24 hour vwap: 570.03053
19:12:18 jurov: kakobrekla has worst case "itsindalawgs" ever
19:12:44 jurov: i have nfi which case he refers to
19:12:53 jurov: and prolly noone has
19:36:55 asciilifeform: jurov: but see, per kakotronic logic, if Esteemed Dealer Who Won't Name Himself had an Unnamed Problem doing an Unnamed Thing on mpex, mpex must be scam!11111
19:40:21 asciilifeform: which reminds me, where is that mega-dossier kakobrekla threatened to post, with MB of dirt, revelations, etc. about mp's supposed misdeeds.
20:12:56 kakobrekla: lol ffs jurov really? who was the other fella doing your job, but manually?
20:14:04 kakobrekla: you guys are terrible at playing 'guess the person' game.
20:16:02 kakobrekla: asciilifeform for you pointing out his misdeeds is pointless because you mange to frame stuff in some convoluted logic. pure scam (several breaches of pgp contract) is staring you in the face and you still act stupid. i dont think anyone can help you there.
20:22:24 asciilifeform: well kakobrekla did mention 'long history', 'warning signs', etc.
20:22:31 asciilifeform: so let's have'em
20:22:48 asciilifeform: and why the fuck not name the 'aggrieved broker', and why he won't name himself?!
20:27:11 kakobrekla: i dont even see why would you care?
20:27:41 kakobrekla: seems to me you feel right at home in the wotrot
20:27:53 asciilifeform: well, kakobrekla mentioned the broker thing, and the accusation is worth less than nothing without evidence.
20:27:57 asciilifeform: or at least a public accuser.
20:28:06 kakobrekla: ohh now you want evidence for things
20:28:08 kakobrekla: thats new
20:28:09 asciilifeform: it's generic squid ink.
20:28:46 kakobrekla: feel free to ignore it, makes little diff
20:30:08 asciilifeform: i'm more curious re kakobrekla's motivation for withholding any of the info.
20:30:38 asciilifeform: the only possible explanation is that not all of it contributes to the narrative he wants to build.
20:31:02 kakobrekla: i honestly thought someone will figure out who by now
20:31:32 kakobrekla: not much of a 'guess the person' game if you tell it upfront
20:31:54 asciilifeform: i am speaking not only of the broker thing, but of kakobrekla's previously mentioned list of flimflams, falsehoods, etc. allegedly perpetrated by mp over the years.
20:33:05 kakobrekla: afaik you were a witness to at least a third of them if not more but you opt for some alternative universe rules of physics explanation
20:33:44 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: link ?
20:33:53 kakobrekla: its all in the text, you just lack the attentiveness.
20:34:14 asciilifeform: and apparently everybody else reading this, also lacks
20:34:22 kakobrekla: nah, not everybody.
20:34:25 asciilifeform: only kakobrekla can see between the lines and read The Truth
20:35:42 asciilifeform: ooooh yes, let's not forget the Silent Majority (tm) that is reading, and nodding along with kakobrekla , but saying nuffin'.
20:38:12 kakobrekla: from the voiced folks some would fall in that category, from my understanding it would be ben, davout, jurov, pankkake and punkman
20:38:44 kakobrekla: why are they not so very vocal its easy to answer
20:38:54 asciilifeform: jurov seems to have nfi what kakobrekla was referring to earlier
20:39:03 kakobrekla: eh he will figure it out
20:39:11 *: pankkake ignores all alf/kako discussions
20:39:19 kakobrekla: lulz
20:39:27 asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise
20:39:45 pankkake: as if it could go somewhere!
20:39:52 kakobrekla: alf/kako discussions are not what we were talking bout
20:40:09 asciilifeform: well if pankkake has own evidence that mp is actually a beggar in calcutta, i'll listen
20:41:03 kakobrekla: even it he would have such, it would not be worth the effort to type
20:41:25 asciilifeform: ahahahahaha 'i had a great proof of this conjecture but it will not fit in the margin.'
20:41:43 kakobrekla: at least not in the expectation it would do anything to alfs reasoning
20:42:20 pankkake: just a person that can't admit being wrong and generally too expensive to deal with
20:42:56 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-08-2016#1453179 < Ramanujan
20:42:56 assbot: Logged on 16-08-2016 20:41:25; asciilifeform: ahahahahaha 'i had a great proof of this conjecture but it will not fit in the margin.'
20:43:29 asciilifeform: pankkake: the 'can't admit being wrong' thing is quite true, and whether you can afford dealing with mptronics, is very personal matter. so i do not actually disagree, as such, with pankkake.
20:43:54 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the fella usually cited is fermat.
21:11:10 punkman: flimflams: "oops flushed the orderbook again", "oops mispaid dividends again", "HELLO I AM THE CEO OF BITCOIN, HERE IS THE BITCOIN EXAM, oh what do you mean btc addresses don't keep a balance?" "it's not socialized losses, it's btc cartelisation research" "you were being an asshole so I banned your mpex account"
21:14:50 punkman: anyway, I have no horse
21:17:14 asciilifeform: punkman: i only got toy horse.
21:18:15 punkman: and I do appreciate what alf, mp, kako, davout, et al were doing all these years
21:24:32 punkman: does asciilifeform's confidence in his mpex contract remain unchanged?
21:24:55 asciilifeform: punkman: i dun even have an mpex acct.
21:25:14 punkman: s.nsa contract
21:25:20 asciilifeform: and mp never promised me one, nor specified a fixed cost (he is free to make it cost 21mil btc.)
21:25:36 asciilifeform: so as punkman can probably guess, i participate for other reasons.
21:53:11 asciilifeform: pankkake: that the idiot retained any credibility with anybody whatsoever, after his 'emulated quantum computer' rubbish, is a serious failed iq test for the entire 'komyooonity.'