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00:01:18 mike_c: i notice death sniped the last paid bomb :)

00:03:06 BingoBoingo: mike_c: If ther is anything to learn from the Atc games, bomb sniping is going to be "a thing"

00:03:14 mike_c: recommended strategy: which ever way the house is leaning on the pre-game bets, go the other way.

00:03:42 mike_c: BingoBoingo: yeah, i kind of like that.

00:04:17 mircea_popescu: mike_c does that actually do anything ?

00:04:29 mike_c: hm?

00:04:56 mike_c: oh, my strategy? no, just the house has been on the losing side the last couple games.

00:06:44 mircea_popescu: lol k

00:09:07 mike_c: btw, jurov, that mid-line on the history chart what you had in mind?

00:10:13 BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1

00:11:29 moiety: i know youve been missing it

00:11:35 moiety: dont try to deny it

00:11:41 moiety: MOTD http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e0Jc_Qx_Jj8/TZBDB3xjnlI/AAAAAAAAGxY/UF_j7vw69eE/s1600/Pallas%2527s%2BCat%2B4.jpg

00:11:46 BingoBoingo: mike_c: I think giant orange arrows on both sides of the histogram would prolly be least obstructing

00:11:47 moiety: youre welcome

00:11:59 BingoBoingo: So fuzzy

00:12:03 moiety: IKR!

00:12:24 mike_c: BingoBoingo: blinking arrows would be better :)

00:12:52 moiety: my ambition in lfe is to have a picture like mircea's pyramids, but with me on a giant manul instead

00:12:57 BingoBoingo: mike_c: Blinking should alway be opt in

00:13:13 BingoBoingo: moiety: Maybe some day you buy Monsanto?

00:14:17 BingoBoingo: Or breed Manul with various big cats until large enough?

00:14:46 moiety: BB: 2 is more appealing

00:16:12 moiety: WAIT

00:16:19 moiety: perhaps not

00:16:29 moiety: imagine having free reigh over mosanto

00:16:39 moiety: reign*

00:18:25 BingoBoingo: !up gabridome

00:18:32 BingoBoingo: !up gabriel_laddel

00:19:34 BingoBoingo: moiety: My concern is that it seems any cat of ridable size is probably going to be person eating. Now if you could get a horse with Manul hair...

00:19:51 moiety: what did yous think of that hand held checmical scanner?

00:20:00 BingoBoingo: looks like scam

00:20:29 moiety: BB, horses are bigger and they dont eat us....

00:21:07 BingoBoingo: Well, they don't yet...

00:21:15 moiety: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6CcxJQq1x8

00:21:15 assbot: Cravendale - Cats with Thumbs #CatsWithThumbs - YouTube

00:21:24 moiety: they are way ahead of you BB

00:22:07 moiety: HOLY SHIT did you just say a manul sized beast with manul fluff

00:22:35 moiety: kk... so... dying of happiness IS REAL!

00:23:19 BingoBoingo: lol

00:24:04 moiety: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now you can calculate why im support staff rather than a forerunner....

00:24:19 BingoBoingo: I'm just wondering what happens if manul fluff could scale up to arbitrarily large beasts, like rhinocerous, elephant, or Tillikum

00:25:08 moiety: can tillikum really have the fluff and still retain it'[s social standing?

00:25:55 BingoBoingo: I'm more wondering if Tillikum can have fluff and still surface to breathe seeing that Tillikum is Sea World's resident maneater

00:26:24 princessnell: i am sorry to be the bearer of bad kitsch, but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEthXBHsEac

00:26:24 assbot: Bitcoin Girl Music Video (Official) - YouTube

00:26:43 moiety: i feel like i have an attachment to this thing that i thought you had made up enitrely!

00:27:02 mircea_popescu: princessnell no you're not

00:27:07 moiety: ohgod nell im frightened to click!

00:27:19 BingoBoingo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuN4qF32q28

00:27:19 assbot: Whale Kills Trainer at Sea World - YouTube

00:27:51 BingoBoingo: That was Tillikum's 4th confirmed kill of the revolution

00:28:15 princessnell: i am expecting big things from this bitcoin girl.

00:28:46 BingoBoingo: http://catastrophemap.org/images/tilikum-killer-whale.gif

00:29:45 BingoBoingo: !up go1111111

00:29:52 mircea_popescu: princessnell the sense to not put her legs forth among them ?

00:30:02 BingoBoingo: !up aegis

00:32:19 princessnell: i am happy to see that she is diversifying with doge

00:32:40 moiety: princessnell: what did you just do to me?! what did you just do yto me senses!

00:33:44 *: moiety just watched the bitcoingirl vid

00:33:51 mircea_popescu: we should have a groan-off. this vs the taleb vid.

00:34:00 asciilifeform: does anybody still use otc?

00:34:26 moiety: i went to otc once to tell then i was really me asciilifeform

00:35:03 princessnell: moiety, would you say this vid about sums your experience as a btc grrl?

00:35:16 moiety: mircea_popescu: lets make it fun... no money. all groans.

00:35:31 moiety: princessnell: now at all personally. what about you ?

00:35:40 moiety: not*

00:36:52 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I still use it occasionally

00:37:38 asciilifeform: ;;buy 1 "CNC x,y,z stage, any manufacturer, with motors and controller." at 2 BTC

00:37:38 gribble: Order id 21092 created.

00:39:30 *: asciilifeform doubts that anything will come of this, but tries anyway

00:40:21 BingoBoingo: You would prolly get a bunch of pm spam if you still accepted pm's off your whitelist

00:40:49 mike_c: princessnell: that video is hilarious

00:41:04 princessnell: moiety no, i think this is pretty specific to american narcissists with girl-who-accepts-bitcoin-the-internet-syndrome.

00:41:42 moiety: princessnell: so your reason for asking me being.....?

00:41:47 princessnell: i was kidding ;)

00:42:01 *: BingoBoingo remembers last order getting offers to buy the half bitcoin I put up for sale. Reminded parties I wanted to sell half a bitcoin for $5000 then they asked if I could do market minus X%. Said Fuck you $6000 nao.

00:42:05 moiety: noted ;]

00:42:15 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do yes.

00:42:56 moiety: princessnell: also...i'm not american hun

00:43:10 mike_c: we can't all be perfect

00:43:18 asciilifeform: anybody here buy physical objects -otc ?

00:43:29 mike_c: pankkake has sold a few i believe

00:43:52 moiety: mike_c: the day you offer me a manul instead of a unicorn as national animal.. i'm in!

00:43:53 princessnell: didn't think you were, but noted!

00:44:28 mike_c: moiety: lol, i'll start a petition

00:44:39 *: asciilifeform shopping for object that is gathering dust in many a garage, but would cost 10x the offered price if bought new from reputable vendor. see logs, 'golden toilet.'

00:44:44 moiety: win!

00:46:15 mike_c: ;;view pankkake

00:46:15 gribble: Error: No orders found matching these criteria.

00:46:39 mike_c: well, he either sold or gave up

00:46:53 moiety: princessnell: i'm insignificant where im from.but if we can ever work together, we should :D

00:47:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, im not so sure it works for non-bitcoin stuff.

00:47:46 princessnell: moiety always open to creating value with good people

00:48:02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aye, suspected as much. but worth a shot.

00:48:32 mircea_popescu: indeed.

00:48:54 *: mircea_popescu is now curious what the galz be up to.

00:48:54 mike_c: ;;view 20297

00:48:55 gribble: Error: No orders found matching these criteria.

00:49:06 moiety: same, princessnell :]

00:49:37 mike_c: !up gabriel_laddel you should get in the wot

00:49:52 moiety: mircea_popescu: prolly working on something to make you smile, no?

00:50:48 mircea_popescu: now thats a thought.

00:51:43 moiety: asciilifeform: please keep the typewriter til i can buy it XD

00:51:56 kakobrekla: ascii if youd only be in yurop.

00:52:05 asciilifeform: moiety: what made you think i still own a typewriter?

00:52:41 mircea_popescu: "Once cesareans are no longer available, we should expect a lot of those deaths will be in childbirth. "

00:52:46 moiety: well.. ok not typewriter... im just unsure what they called those things

00:52:51 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: why? you have an example of the item i posted ad for ?

00:52:54 mircea_popescu: somebody should tell orlov how caesarean section got to be called that.

00:53:10 kakobrekla: asciilifeform sort of.

00:53:37 moiety: "Once cesareans are no longer available....." << now thats intesreting

00:53:40 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: care to take a photo ?

00:53:42 moiety: interesting*

00:54:07 kakobrekla: i thought i pasted em before?

00:54:11 moiety: hello bloctoc

00:54:21 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i must've slept through it

00:54:37 moiety: GASP!

00:54:43 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: someone should tell orlov who invented surgical forceps, and what they were originally for

00:54:59 moiety: you do not sleep... laser just shines slightly less birght green

00:55:01 mircea_popescu: and so on.

00:55:12 kakobrekla: give me a moment.

00:56:51 moiety: phgod someeone please tell me im not still the only one on earth

00:57:04 BingoBoingo: lol

00:57:30 nam-shub: !ticker mpex s.mpoe

00:57:30 assbot: Um, shouldn't you be with your own tribe or somethin'?

00:57:39 moiety: oh werll fuck

00:58:56 moiety: butbut we are

01:01:14 BingoBoingo: moiety: What if they know?

01:02:06 kakobrekla: asciilifeform i cant find more recent photos but basically x and y are functional, z is not finished yet but i have the materials. http://imgur.com/a/BuNYE

01:05:17 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: what was it meant to become ?

01:05:47 kakobrekla: yeah the legs are also missing there.

01:06:21 kakobrekla: a general purpuse thing

01:06:45 kakobrekla: the Z axis should have something like 25cm of travel

01:07:46 kakobrekla: you could put anything on it really.

01:08:07 kakobrekla: spindle, laser, pencil, dildo

01:08:37 asciilifeform: i was looking for something with ball screws & steel slides, i admit

01:08:51 asciilifeform: (need 0.1mm repeatability)

01:09:16 kakobrekla: hm i dont have that measured but the step is way smaller

01:09:24 kakobrekla: 0.025 iirc?

01:09:31 kakobrekla: i forgot.

01:10:10 kakobrekla: the ball screw is 4mm iirc

01:11:22 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: tried it with motors yet ?

01:11:29 kakobrekla: yea

01:11:49 kakobrekla: 12nm steppers i got.

01:11:51 BingoBoingo: http://trending.ly/entertainment/11-animals-being-jerks/mocking-a-baby/y_YBmebvj81ei_Fc7Kf4QA/mocking-a-baby.gif

01:11:51 asciilifeform: if you go between (x, y) and (x', y') 10,000 times, what's the cumulative error ?

01:12:22 kakobrekla: i dont know and i cant test it now. due to lack of space its not in operational mode.

01:12:52 mike_c: wtf is that monstrosity. looks like a loom

01:13:08 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: let me guess - space is occupied by whatever you machined that thing with ?

01:13:10 kakobrekla: i thing me and my friend started to work some years ago.

01:13:39 kakobrekla: lol no asciilifeform

01:13:51 kakobrekla: i had some connections to people with the big machines to machine it for me

01:14:52 kakobrekla: but i mean if there was a real need i would prolly invest the time to assemble it again

01:16:00 mircea_popescu: mike_c kakobrekla was making a fucking machine then got carried away

01:16:13 mircea_popescu: (the boat part is not visible in the pics)

01:16:13 kakobrekla: actually that is the truth

01:16:14 mike_c: for a donkey?

01:16:19 kakobrekla: it started as a desktop version

01:16:38 kakobrekla: but then due to the small difference in prices and procedures to get a bigger one

01:16:41 kakobrekla: i opted for that.

01:16:49 kakobrekla: now i have nowhere to put it.

01:16:51 kakobrekla: :D

01:27:05 moiety: which one of you did this? http://imgur.com/gallery/IYXwQPn be honest now

01:27:05 assbot: Nobody ever accepts my invitation :( - Imgur

01:27:26 kakobrekla: twas tradefortress

01:27:43 moiety: is h really free hugs now?

01:27:47 moiety: he*

01:27:51 kakobrekla: mhm

01:30:31 BingoBoingo: http://terminallance.com/2014/07/15/terminal-lance-the-metal-donkey/

01:30:32 assbot: Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance “The Metal Donkey”

01:31:35 moiety: do scammers have day jobs too?

01:32:28 moiety: ive been trying to track how much this stuff would take. they need a dayfund or an undocumented skill

01:33:30 benkay: http://www.esquire.com/features/american-dog-0814

01:33:30 assbot: The State of The American Dog - Esquire

01:34:11 moiety: kakobrekla: why did my hug fund not work?! is it because it wasnt free?!

01:34:19 artifexd: GSD's are the best dogs

01:34:28 moiety: artifexd: so true

01:34:56 kakobrekla: you have a hug fund? thats new to me. did it ipo?

01:35:02 artifexd: http://i.imgur.com/97MFpmP.png <- mine

01:35:36 moiety: mama-mo just acquired a new pooch - cocker spaniel tho

01:35:57 moiety: artifexd: beautiful!

01:36:06 mircea_popescu: artifexd aahahah that's a good dog.

01:36:08 artifexd: Other types of dogs have their place. But that place is not in my house.

01:36:24 moiety: kakobrekla: i think i failed by not having an ipo

01:36:29 artifexd: She's 7 months old in that 2 month old picture.

01:36:38 mircea_popescu: what's she begging for ?

01:36:47 artifexd: Nothing. She's just chilling.

01:36:58 benkay: she's a beaut

01:37:18 moiety: saw a gentleman out other day with 5 GSDs. all differing colourings. must have been a breeder

01:37:19 artifexd: Thanks.

01:37:44 artifexd: Can you believe that the AKC considers a white GSD a defect?

01:37:53 moiety: WUT

01:37:59 artifexd: Yup

01:38:00 moiety: how does that even

01:38:01 moiety: why?

01:38:05 BingoBoingo: Almost got a dog last week...

01:38:23 moiety: BB... i disappoint at the @almost@

01:38:26 artifexd: https://www.akc.org/breeds/german_shepherd_dog/breed_standard.cfm

01:38:40 artifexd: I have no idea. They have some crazy ideas.

01:39:23 moiety: artifexd: the one i grew up with was incredibly nervous. perfect show lines aside from the fear so we got her as a pet. most wonderful creature

01:39:34 artifexd: Look at the bottom of that link. Under disqualifications, "White dogs"

01:39:52 cazalla: i don't know how anyone can have animals in their house tbh

01:40:36 cazalla: then again, i eat my pets

01:40:42 BingoBoingo: moiety: I was going for a walk at about 2 in the morning and some stranger yells "Is this your dog". The dog in question is a brown bull mastiff puppy about 24 inches tall at the withers. Dude has it leashed to his belt says it ran in front of his truck....

01:40:43 moiety: @disqualifications: Any dog that attempts to bite the judge.<< lololololololol

01:40:43 artifexd: Different strokes for different folks. My wife feels the same way. She deals with it though.

01:41:10 moiety: cazalla: what pets do you eat?!

01:41:36 cazalla: rabbits, manuls, anything

01:41:44 artifexd: Manuls!?!?!

01:41:47 artifexd: lol

01:42:03 moiety: BingoBoingo: omg that man needs eaten imo

01:42:14 moiety: and not in thwe way he would like

01:42:26 cazalla: moiety: seriously though, rabbits

01:42:55 moiety: cazalla: GASP manuls would leave you bald bfore you had a mouthful!

01:43:05 moiety: rabbits really?

01:43:11 artifexd: When I was growing up, I had a pet rabbit named Ghost. One day I come home from school and we have soup for lunch. It was different. After dinner I asked what it was. My dad replied "Ghost soup". Sure enough. I had just eaten my pet.

01:43:21 moiety: theres nmillions round here but people just dont eat them anymore

01:43:22 BingoBoingo: moiety: Lol, I considered saying yes that's my dog, but... way too friendly for a bull mastiff. Such a dog allow some stranger to leash it with a belt without a fight.

01:43:48 BingoBoingo: rabbits are delicious

01:43:52 cazalla: artifexd: i can't wait to pull a similar joke on my son

01:43:54 benkay: artifexd: mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xHE9CK8HKQ

01:43:54 assbot: galileo - YouTube

01:44:07 moiety: BB this makes me so sad though, cus they are just more open to fighing breeding?

01:44:47 moiety: ITS POOCH!

01:45:04 artifexd: benkay: Did he give it back to you? My dog likes to run around with the ball (a green soccer ball) for a while before she brings it back.

01:45:07 benkay: 80 pounds of high-efficiency dog engine.

01:45:16 benkay: oh yeah.

01:45:26 benkay: lol i can't give g a soccer ball - he'd rather destroy it than anything else.

01:45:57 artifexd: Oh, the ball has a 100 punctures in it, but it is still her favorite.

01:46:05 artifexd: Is your dog 80 lbs in the video?

01:46:08 BingoBoingo: moiety: Well, it is a guard dog breed and I have nothing for such a dog to guard, especially while not being so friendly

01:46:24 benkay: this group of hipsters plays dodgeball in the tennis courts you can see behind me in that video every monday, and frequently leave deflated dogeballs behind. rubber sacks the miniature dragon in question would rather rip to shreds than chase.

01:46:43 benkay: artifexd: you bet.

01:46:47 benkay: maybe 75.

01:46:54 benkay: he oscillates, as do we all.

01:46:55 artifexd: Dense

01:47:41 benkay: yeah. there's not much by way of hair on the animal.

01:47:45 artifexd: Beautiful. Not a GSD. ;) But still beautiful.

01:47:52 benkay: that volume is all muscle and bone.

01:47:57 benkay: thanks! i'm enamored.

01:48:10 moiety: BingoBoingo: yes you do. you.

01:48:57 artifexd: I'm going to Ecuador for a week so I just dropped her off with our trainer to kennel her. I'm feeling a little... I don't know. But she's on my mind. Hence the discussion.

01:49:44 moiety: :]

01:50:00 moiety: she will have missed you just as much artifexd :]

01:50:33 artifexd: It'll be the first time she's ever been away from me for more than an hour since she was 8 weeks old.

01:51:29 BingoBoingo: moiety: Maybe? I dunno... Loud dog that grows to that size as an adult, as opposed to one that's still a growing puppy at that size seems more practical to feed

01:52:01 moiety: i think that wiull be the biggest thing for her artifexd ... but she will manage and so will you :] and the cuddles after twill prove it :D

01:52:45 moiety: BB you thinking on epxanding ghr boinge family name??

01:53:13 moiety: expanding the boingo family na,e* (sorry elvis on keyboard)

01:53:18 moiety: naMe

01:53:44 BingoBoingo: moiety: Maybe eventually

01:55:23 BingoBoingo: http://deadspin.com/derek-jeter-and-adam-wainwright-saved-the-all-star-game-1605850842

01:55:24 assbot: Derek Jeter And Adam Wainwright Saved The All-Star Game

01:56:37 benkay: grammae question

01:56:40 benkay: grammar*

01:56:58 BingoBoingo: !up Rawted

01:57:02 benkay: "cost control on which <our client>, the least technical stakeholder relied in extremis"

01:57:11 Rawted: Hello Bingo

01:57:20 benkay: this is a correct use of "in extremis, correct?"

01:57:24 Rawted: ;;eauth rawted

01:57:24 gribble: Request successful for user rawted, hostmask Rawted!~Rawted@66.55.134.215. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AC353E7BF1AD95E

01:57:25 benkay: "in extremis", correct?

01:57:29 BingoBoingo: Hello Rawted, what brings you around these parts?

01:57:30 moiety: BB but you have to. so like to conferences we can send you and the dog.. like..: yes this is dog... bingoboino's dog so Fuuuuuuuuuuuu - kinda thing

01:58:06 Rawted: someone's nick squatting on my nick. its been long enough that i havent logged into otc that the enfore wore off

01:58:13 Rawted: so i am trying to remember how to do it again

01:58:25 moiety: it does not wear pff

01:58:31 BingoBoingo: moiety: This is why I hang out with my brother's dog occasionally. So I don't have to do the heavy lifting.

01:58:34 moiety: you set it to on, it stays on

01:58:45 Rawted: michail told me after 10 weeks it falls off and i need to log back in. said someone was squatting on my nick today

01:58:48 BingoBoingo: moiety: Well, this is the freenode thing about the nicks

01:59:27 moiety: Rawted: what was your usual nick?

01:59:30 Rawted: that's me. you'll see michail's positive rating changed today because of it - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Rawted

01:59:31 assbot: Rating Details for User 'Rawted'

01:59:38 moiety: BingoBoingo: whyyyyyyyyyyyyy is nothing siiiiimple?

01:59:56 BingoBoingo: moiety: Because Freenode is always the weakest link

02:00:08 moiety: and having strokes every third day

02:01:48 Rawted: verify message, right?

02:02:04 Rawted: in the new core distro

02:02:16 mircea_popescu: o look, Rawted

02:02:17 moiety: BingoBoingo: btw, you mentioned lucite g-blocks. i wondered about keyrings also?

02:02:30 mircea_popescu: ;;rated Rawted

02:02:30 Rawted: MP

02:02:31 gribble: You have not yet rated user Rawted

02:02:37 Rawted: long time

02:02:49 mircea_popescu: you go ;;eauth rawted then ;;everify

02:03:00 BingoBoingo: moiety: Wouldn't hurt... In what context did I mention those?

02:03:08 Rawted: yeah core is telling my it doesnt match when i try to verify

02:03:14 Rawted: positive i have original addy

02:03:22 Rawted: *telling me

02:03:38 BingoBoingo: -1 to Bitcoin signature's for shit other than tx signing

02:04:05 moiety: BingoBoingo: it was a random birthing of creativity on your part i think.

02:04:22 Rawted: ;;eauth rawted

02:04:23 gribble: Request successful for user rawted, hostmask Rawted!~Rawted@66.55.134.215. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AC353E7BF1AD95E

02:04:48 BingoBoingo: Huh, well... Imma trying to remember what sort of lucite blocks I'd invented the idea of then...

02:04:52 moiety: BingoBoingo: HOW about the paperweitghts lit up though? as per transaction or confirmation?

02:05:02 BingoBoingo: Oh, those ones

02:05:11 moiety: wtf what ones

02:05:33 Rawted: ;;everify ICSqGoHFAe/sqnnDOELuqmT4T1wsDY63WKblTySQoGJ4mPVWGwFAxhF+kAVQtkv/E41SyAvvzvfC1mV2OwWdf94=

02:05:34 gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.

02:05:38 Rawted: the fuck

02:05:55 moiety: i was thinking lucite cube avec neopixel stick

02:06:13 BingoBoingo: Rawted: ;;eauth is decrypt with GPG

02:06:22 moiety: Rawted: did you decrypt the thing given to you?

02:06:37 Rawted: whats the one for btc addy lo. been a while...

02:07:03 BingoBoingo: moiety: Blockchain as a collection of lucite bocks with the data engraved. Machine spits a new one out each time a new one is confirmed

02:07:10 benkay: bcauth, bcverify Rawted ?

02:07:19 Rawted: duh. thanks bud

02:07:22 Rawted: ;;bcauth

02:07:22 gribble: (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.

02:07:25 Rawted: ;;bcauth rawted

02:07:26 gribble: Request successful for user rawted, hostmask Rawted!~Rawted@66.55.134.215. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:4b0e85c80194640f05fece026b398166bbbbacfa29240283791183b5

02:07:26 moiety: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Bitcoin_address_authentication

02:07:28 assbot: Bitcoin address authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki

02:07:58 moiety: also... gribble works in pm..cus.. other folk like to talk too sometimes n all that :]

02:08:02 Rawted: ;;bcverify H3nydUdT1oCchrdkEc67WtC9QaQXieVlZTsdtZmgJyl6cG9OuUXB4NtGvIJXNjrsH9JhNIWcrKFJEz0I0U2YHeQ=

02:08:04 gribble: You are now authenticated for user 'Rawted' with address 16JCobZmcPkLCVzi9G7rnf7mJgbbJd1DLT

02:08:08 Rawted: ;;voiceme

02:08:24 benkay: it's !up, i think that you want.

02:08:31 Rawted: so much has changed

02:08:32 Rawted: thanks

02:08:34 BingoBoingo: Rawted: You need to pm assbot !up

02:09:48 Rawted: Thanks for the help everyone, hopefully that reenforces the nick

02:09:50 Rawted: have a great night

02:10:08 benkay: ciao

02:11:06 benkay: <mircea_popescu> not that it'd be so hard to repurpose a botnet for utterly destroying twitter. // now there's a notion

02:12:17 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

02:12:18 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 613.9, Best ask: 616.89, Bid-ask spread: 2.99000, Last trade: 614.18, 24 hour volume: 5390.40583525, 24 hour low: 610.01, 24 hour high: 625.0, 24 hour vwap: 616.720660682

02:13:54 mircea_popescu: benkay all it needs is a bunch of ips making accoutns and generating text.

02:14:08 mircea_popescu: by the time every human is surrounded by 100s of bots, it's dead.

02:14:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 11500 @ 0.00006689 = 0.7692 BTC [+] {2}

02:14:32 benkay: I FUCKING LOVE IT

02:14:49 benkay: i will bring ruination on all social everythings

02:14:57 benkay: why is griefing the platform not a thing?

02:15:08 benkay: griefing users is boring. grief the platform.

02:15:46 moiety: yeah

02:16:04 benkay: lol yeah moiety you know all about that huh

02:16:29 moiety: ofc i know everything about everything tho

02:16:54 moiety: no wait im usually the platform being griefed!

02:18:27 moiety: can i just say tht ^ made sense in my head before aloudness?!

02:19:18 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/140WS46.txt )

02:19:18 BingoBoingo: !b 2

02:19:53 benkay: been drinkin, moiety ?

02:19:58 moiety: i was just about to ask you not to do that too

02:20:50 benkay: reaction time

02:21:02 BingoBoingo: I've been drinking

02:21:07 benkay: i've had...a beer.

02:21:13 moiety: benkay, obv no. sort of.

02:21:27 benkay: we also split 2 bottles of prosecco to celebrate the new digs.

02:21:27 BingoBoingo: beer's not drinking, that's taking a hydration break

02:21:39 moiety: new digs? work or home?

02:21:50 benkay: lady v made a chocolate cake with raspberry compote and a chocolate ganache to boot

02:21:59 benkay: work

02:22:18 benkay: 352 ft^2

02:22:30 moiety: lady v sounds cool, can you bring here here too?

02:22:45 benkay: in a sweaty sweaty warehouse

02:22:51 benkay: nah, she'd not get along with mircea_popescu

02:22:57 BingoBoingo: I watched Dr Strangelove again and fired up Fallout 3 this week so on a nuclear apocalypse kick. Drinking grain alcohol and distilled water

02:23:41 BingoBoingo: I keep forgetting distilled water gives me heartburn

02:24:00 moiety: distilled water?!

02:24:06 benkay: yeah whaty?

02:24:18 moiety: !up paxtoncamaro91

02:24:54 paxtoncamaro91: thanks

02:25:07 BingoBoingo: What has no one talking nao ever seen Dr Strangelove? POE, Purity of Essence.

02:25:25 moiety: benkay: i cant see someone with you being rude, and neither is he, so problem being?

02:25:35 BingoBoingo: It's all the wise general ever drank.

02:25:44 moiety: yw paxtoncamaro91 :] what do you do?

02:26:09 BingoBoingo: !up VanCleef

02:26:09 paxtoncamaro91: irl? auto tech lol

02:26:14 BingoBoingo: !up Ukyo

02:26:22 BingoBoingo: !up reeses

02:26:36 moiety: BB i have heard of one strangelove film...something to do with a bomb. how many are there?

02:26:50 BingoBoingo: moiety: Just one. Kubrick made it.

02:27:06 moiety: ah well that makes sense

02:27:06 BingoBoingo: It's all the plot left room for...

02:27:19 moiety: he took cwo ogff the shelves himself

02:27:54 BingoBoingo: !up Dimsler

02:28:18 BingoBoingo: !up davidlatapie

02:29:04 asciilifeform: twitter... botnet << no 'captcha' ?

02:29:34 decimation: mircea: the chance of a random integer from 1 to x being prime is about 1/ln(x)

02:30:02 davidlatapie: Hi BingoBoingo I'll probably go to bed soon

02:30:09 decimation: so a number from 0 to 2^4096 has about 1 in 2900 chance of being prime

02:30:15 BingoBoingo: davidlatapie: Cool

02:30:25 decimation: so start rolling

02:30:40 decimation: asciilifeform: I actually have a set of casino quality dice

02:30:55 decimation: but I'm sure they 'wear' over time

02:31:15 decimation: they have very sharp edges and balanced numeral indicators

02:31:39 BingoBoingo: I have a few sets of dice for different uses

02:32:17 decimation: thinking about this last night, there's a limit to the number of dice you can roll simultaneously

02:32:26 decimation: in the limit you are not going to move a m^3 of dice at all

02:32:50 asciilifeform: with bare hands, sure.

02:32:53 *: benkay imagines an m3 of dice

02:33:06 benkay: that's the biggest damn boggle box ever!

02:33:12 decimation: one would require mechanical assistance

02:33:21 asciilifeform: decimation: such as: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-07-2014#757610

02:33:22 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

02:33:25 benkay: put a nice HD camera in there and you might capture...*some* entropy.

02:33:35 decimation: and if you are going to go through that trouble, might as well build a high bandwidth source of random values

02:34:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 26350 @ 0.00006699 = 1.7652 BTC [+] {3}

02:34:51 BingoBoingo: ;;google site:fraudsters.com Bitcoin drama timeline

02:34:51 gribble: The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/; Runcible Doom pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/runcible-doom; Why S.MPOE is worth more than MtGox pe fraudsters - Un blog de ...: http://fraudsters.com/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/

02:36:35 benkay: yeah but where's the fun in that, decimation. it's not like the thing'd be useful anyways

02:36:45 benkay: it's like a fuel-cooled methane regen engine

02:36:56 benkay: fucker's never going to fly, but it's a grand thing to build nevertheless

02:36:59 decimation: oh, I mean an electrical device

02:37:05 mircea_popescu: <benkay> i will bring ruination on all social everythings <<hence my comment re partially implemented wots and their fundamental unsustainability.

02:37:26 decimation: not a chumpatron on nitrous

02:37:42 mircea_popescu: <benkay> nah, she'd not get along with mircea_popescu << wait wut

02:37:45 benkay: http://rocketmoonlighting.blogspot.com/2013/11/testing-new-chambers.html

02:37:45 assbot: Rocket Moonlighting: Testing the New Chambers

02:38:01 benkay: now you get to prove me wrong

02:38:04 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know f3 fucking sucks. i sometimes fire up 1 or 2... but 3mmeh

02:38:07 benkay: mircea_popescu: ^^

02:38:50 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But catching slaves. I spared megaton the bomb, because it deserves worse...

02:39:41 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> twitter... botnet << no 'captcha' ? << trivial to bypass.

02:40:14 mircea_popescu: <decimation> mircea: the chance of a random integer from 1 to x being prime is about 1/ln(x) << you just use the entropy to seed, much like pgp does. you don't actually roll the prime itself.

02:41:35 decimation: mircea of course that's how things are done today, but you are back in deterministic world at that point...

02:41:41 mircea_popescu: <benkay> this is a correct use of "in extremis, correct?" << sure.

02:43:47 mircea_popescu: i must have missed a thread here.

02:43:53 BingoBoingo: ;;google mesmotron

02:43:54 gribble: Mesmetron - The Fallout wiki - Fallout: New Vegas and more: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mesmetron; How to Use Slave Collars in Fallout 3 | eHow: http://www.ehow.com/how_8141436_use-slave-collars-fallout-3.html; Fallout 3 strange man and location - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5hLH2t6eJQ

02:44:01 mircea_popescu: the idea was that you can replace the platform's rng, in extremis, by rolling dice.

02:44:07 BingoBoingo: ^ would make brewing biodeisel easier

02:44:30 mircea_popescu: someone said this isn't feasible. that someone is wrong : takes you about the same time to wait for gnupg to cook up a new keypair whether the source is dev/random or your dice.

02:46:33 BingoBoingo: Death's advance accelerates. Is this approaching extinction level again? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/17/

02:46:34 assbot: Game 17 - Death 6077 Life 3923 Year 560 - War of Life

02:47:38 decimation: I was echoing ascii's distinction between prng and rng

02:50:09 benkay: <BingoBoingo> ;;google manul taking a poop

02:50:09 benkay: <gribble> Nigger Owner's Manual:

02:50:12 benkay: ^^ awesome

02:50:24 BingoBoingo: ;;google manul taking a poop

02:50:25 gribble: Nigger Owner's Manual: http://tightrope.cc/nigger-owners-manual.htm; Taking that shit to the next level - Imgur: http://imgur.com/TDPeD09; constipation - Cornell University College of Veterinary Medicine: http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/health_resources/constipation.cfm

02:50:41 benkay: wtf is this anyways

02:51:00 BingoBoingo: I want to see if such a fuzzy animal gets dingleberries!

02:51:21 moiety: too many manuals and not enough manuls, i say

02:51:50 benkay: god fuck web stack technologies

02:52:09 benkay: this is what i get for waiting to do my deploy scripts

02:52:19 moiety: allow the curious beast some dignity ffs men!

02:52:20 BingoBoingo: benkay: Throw a latteral, and I say your blawg went 404

02:52:35 benkay: yeah. sudo service nginx stop.

02:52:52 benkay: it'll be back sometime.

02:53:01 benkay: probably just a photo of my mug and a gpg key.

02:53:22 benkay: lateral you say? football season?

02:53:23 BingoBoingo: benkay: But all of the things you put effort into mocking!

02:53:37 BingoBoingo: benkay: I can't wait MIZ!!!

02:54:00 benkay: yeah fuck mockery, mircea_popescu beats me hands down any day.

02:54:08 benkay: motherfucker can do latin and shit - what do i have

02:54:21 BingoBoingo: Shame Mizzou dumped DGB over his punching people in the face problem

02:54:29 BingoBoingo: benkay: Clojure?

02:54:53 benkay: no, *nix.

02:54:59 benkay: clojure's great, boot time aside.

02:55:05 benkay: it's like lisp, but for cube-bound retards.

02:56:35 BingoBoingo: !up jonvaage

02:57:08 BingoBoingo: benkay: You're a Mac person right? What was your favorite piece of iron they released?

02:57:29 benkay: what precisely do you mean by iron, BingoBoingo ?

02:57:40 BingoBoingo: benkay: Hardware

02:58:16 benkay: the macbook pro's are good, but i have to run aroud to client shops constantly. if you're stationary, well, why not a real nix?

02:59:00 BingoBoingo: benkay: That's what I wonder. You have dealt with more recent hardware from their ecosystem, any particular generations stand out?

02:59:28 benkay: the most recent models have gorgeous screens and chassis' the rest of the industry can't match

02:59:48 decimation: ;;calc 2900*4096

02:59:48 gribble: 11878400

03:00:09 benkay: unlike the rest of the combudder world apful appears to take the notion of 'kaizen' seriously. this in my humble opinion is the only way to stay profitable as a manufacturing shop.

03:00:24 benkay: i use manufacturing loosely. obviously.

03:01:26 BingoBoingo: ;;ud kaizen

03:01:27 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kaizen | Kaizen is an approach to total quality management which can be described as continuously improving by making small improvements, mainly in process,...

03:01:47 benkay: it's also not a strategy suited to any but the market leaders in quality.

03:02:38 decimation: apple doesn't "improve", they just go an buy 5 years supply of a part

03:02:45 BingoBoingo: If apple really does kaizen why no 9" B&W machines with over 9000 dpi monitors?

03:02:46 decimation: the rest of the industry accepts the scraps

03:05:08 decimation: but they are also the only game in town for the completely integrated unix laptop market

03:05:50 BingoBoingo: decimation: Nah, you can still find Tadpoles on Ebay

03:06:55 decimation: lol yeah what's the cpu speed?

03:07:17 benkay: <decimation> apple doesn't "improve", they just go an buy 5 years supply of a part // neglecting the chassis and the irreplaceable battery...

03:07:57 benkay: <BingoBoingo> If apple really does kaizen why no 9" B&W machines with over 9000 dpi monitors? // troll better

03:08:06 decimation: heh that's how they force you to buy more, like the flashlight

03:08:26 benkay: no, that'd be the OS 'upgrades' that slow machines to a crawl over time.

03:08:33 decimation: heh that too

03:08:58 decimation: if you want apple stuff, you have to think of it as a subscription plan

03:11:31 benkay: if you want nice things, you must pay for them.

03:11:39 benkay: the niceness on offer is dubious though.

03:13:45 decimation: as nice as mircea's flashlight...

03:13:58 benkay: must have missed that one.

03:15:05 BingoBoingo: From lulz farm: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=667460.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=672453.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697256.0

03:15:05 assbot: Phinnaeus Gage aka ~Bruno Kucinskas where are you?

03:15:05 assbot: Where is Goat? (The scammer)

03:15:05 assbot: Anonibet is a SCAM! Cheated me in their world cup contest ! Proof Inside.

03:15:08 dub: my god I need a physio or some shit

03:15:20 dub: fist sized knot floating around my lower back

03:15:55 benkay: <BingoBoingo> The eventual loser doesn't always allow the winners victory unscathed // been studying GoL?

03:16:10 BingoBoingo: benkay: Not studying, playing

03:16:34 benkay: good god man you think i don't know?

03:18:10 benkay: have you seen the above happen in GoL?

03:19:21 benkay: <mircea_popescu> some other dood somewhere has this truely ellaborate and complex punishment station, cost him 18`000 dollars // lol sounds a lot like MPEx.

03:21:42 benkay: <mike_c> oh, my strategy? no, just the house has been on the losing side the last couple games. // am curious as to how you're deciding how to lay odds.

03:35:59 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

03:36:01 gribble: Current Blocks: 311093 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1386 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 11 hours, 50 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18093767874.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.36916

03:37:47 BingoBoingo: %d

03:37:48 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 508361.66 in 562 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -35.25

03:40:05 BingoBoingo: !up RedStallion

03:42:24 asciilifeform: mac battery << idk about the more recent machines, but the one on my (circa '09?) unit is replaceable. just need to pop 8 torx screws.

03:42:52 *: asciilifeform doesn't use that machine often, battery has probably rotted and ripe for replacement

03:43:11 BingoBoingo: Mac has been infatuated with torx for some time it seems

03:43:22 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do you know why 'torx' exists?

03:43:39 BingoBoingo: Because phillips isn't hip?

03:43:55 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: originally, 'phillips' screws caught on because a (motorized, factory) driver would slip automatically when the screw tightened

03:44:07 asciilifeform: when strain gauges and computers became a thing, this was no longer necessary

03:44:19 asciilifeform: so screws were cut to maximize grip

03:44:27 asciilifeform: torx is one such

03:45:16 asciilifeform: nothing to do with 'hip'...

03:45:22 BingoBoingo: Ah, I thought torx was such because someone in Cupertino thought in 1999 it would be a swell idea to push Bingo to buy a $20 screwdriver from radioshack

03:46:07 asciilifeform: pediwikia has good illustration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx

03:46:08 assbot: Torx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

03:48:27 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: buy a $20 screwdriver from radioshack << you're thinking of the infamous 'pentalobe'

03:48:44 mircea_popescu: benkay what , no more blog ?

03:49:14 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: No, this was me with an information deficit and RadioShack with an people buying shit deficit

03:50:29 BingoBoingo: !up twizt

03:50:37 decimation: whenever I use a motorized phillips screw driver I find that it strips before it slips

03:50:51 decimation: but that's probably because the screw is cheap

03:51:02 benkay: no more blog.

03:51:04 benkay: mircea_popescu:

03:51:27 BingoBoingo: decimation: Not too cheap though. I've had screws weld. Fucking ChiBama and Chicoms

03:51:35 benkay: it's a distraction! the kid only has so much attention to go around, and the blog is a dilution of said.

03:51:55 decimation: yeah the world is awash in cheap chicom screws

03:52:07 BingoBoingo: It is a plague

03:52:49 mircea_popescu: lol goat's repute preceeds him

03:53:18 BingoBoingo: Chicom nails and rivets... fine. Screws I might need to use several times... fuck that.

03:54:06 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3458 ppl be aggro!

03:54:06 assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 days ago

03:54:40 benkay: i'm down with destructive fasteners, but not fasteners that self-destruct.

03:54:41 mircea_popescu: "There can't be 1 person that has a stake in this that can be happy with how it is proceeding. Bet Yes or No it doesn't matter. Anyone with a legitimate bet wants a statement from BitBet about what is happening with this bet. I'm not at the point where I assume the admins of BitBet place a lot of their own bets on their site, and a lot of the comments are also from the admins. No one in th

03:54:41 mircea_popescu: eir right mind would ever think the running of this site is tolerable, yet apparently somehow many commenters do."

03:54:42 asciilifeform: http://terminallance.com/2014/04/22/terminal-lance-317-the-social-network-iv/

03:54:42 assbot: Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #317 “The Social Network IV”

03:54:47 BingoBoingo: Aggro because they imagined a good resolution source and Draper likes the cox

03:55:07 mircea_popescu: "i am now at a point where i'm so butthurt with the internets i'm going to think the whole of it is just this guy in 8th grade that doesn't like me"

03:55:34 asciilifeform: http://terminallance.com/2014/04/11/terminal-lance-316-dress-blue-alpha-male/

03:55:35 assbot: Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #316 “Dress Blue Alpha Male”

03:56:06 mircea_popescu: <benkay> <mike_c> oh, my strategy? no, just the house has been on the losing side the last couple games. // am curious as to how you're deciding how to lay odds. << it's a rand.

03:56:59 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ~85 percent of my cousins took that career path. Was my motivation for going to college

03:57:35 mircea_popescu: benkay makes sense.

03:58:15 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Few make it past this phase unscathed http://terminallance.com/2013/11/29/terminal-lance-revenge-of-the-dependapotamus-1/

03:58:15 assbot: Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance “Revenge of the Dependapotamus” #1

03:58:15 decimation: usg has been sending rednecks overseas for two generations at least

04:00:11 BingoBoingo: decimation: USG has been sending rednecks overseas since tripoli

04:01:38 BingoBoingo: Tripoli was prolly the West's last decisive victory over Abdullah

04:02:40 decimation: back then they had the sense to take them home at least

04:03:37 BingoBoingo: lol

04:03:47 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://terminallance.com/2014/01/17/terminal-lance-302-pirate-sword

04:03:48 assbot: Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #302 “Pirate Sword”

04:05:40 decimation: lol

04:05:44 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Cousin actually after leaving broke his pirate sword testing it against a $15 Walmart machete on honeysuckle in the back yard

04:07:16 decimation: if augustus were transported into our time, he would wonder why the us spends blood & treasure to "occupy" lands without expecting tribute or gold mines

04:08:04 BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, it might have made sense if Blood for Oil was an actual thing and not a hippie chant

04:08:43 BingoBoingo: http://terminallance.com/2014/06/17/terminal-lance-328-avengers-assemble/

04:08:44 assbot: Terminal Lance - Terminal Lance #328 “Avengers Assemble”

04:08:57 decimation: my point is ... why isn't iraq New Texas with Bush City as its capitol?

04:09:19 BingoBoingo: Cause suckitude.

04:09:39 BingoBoingo: Arabs could have been the new Mexicans, but... Progressivism

04:10:23 benkay: http://airbnblogos.tumblr.com/image/91994650874

04:10:23 assbot: AirBNB Logos. : Photo

04:10:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.17800014 = 1.068 BTC [-] {3}

04:10:36 benkay: http://media.tumblr.com/a6764c9453c58a3c1e42654ed89a6e69/tumblr_n8u33zdSnA1r5wpf1o1_1280.png

04:11:55 BingoBoingo: benkay: Wait airBnB ignores fags nao?

04:13:09 benkay: who's a what now?

04:13:45 BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, apparently airbnd is all about the pussy nao

04:14:44 benkay: http://33.media.tumblr.com/e5c93fd1bc11c41746fe03b3bfc41c85/tumblr_n8tx0awiHX1tho45lo1_1280.png

04:15:51 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: What is the BTC/Meat price?

04:17:34 danielpbarron: one sec, I'll put up some new orders

04:17:56 *: BingoBoingo digs KoL account out of the abyss

04:19:14 danielpbarron: it's about 3`180`927 MEAT per 1 XCP

04:19:32 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Translate that to BTC or ATC

04:19:47 mircea_popescu: <decimation> my point is ... why isn't iraq New Texas with Bush City as its capitol? << same reason the eu didn't take on turkey when it had the chance.

04:19:50 mircea_popescu: idiots.

04:20:00 BingoBoingo: Or I'll comprehend XCP if you quote spectral pickles as the underlying

04:20:20 danielpbarron: my equation is {meat/mr. a}*{btc/xcp}*{usd/btc}/10

04:20:31 decimation: turkey would be a much better deal than greece

04:21:16 danielpbarron: i get the btc/xcp price from blockscan.com which quotes the latest trade on the DEX (I think)

04:21:33 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: WTF is this marketmaking based on precise calculations???

04:21:49 danielpbarron: lol

04:22:09 BingoBoingo: No, seriously sounds like a way to lose a lot of money

04:24:13 danielpbarron: well, the market cap of MEAT is less than 10 XCP so I'm not too worried

04:25:49 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: How much ATC or BTC is 10 XCP?

04:25:56 BingoBoingo: Can't find a good quote

04:27:09 danielpbarron: 10 XCP is about 0.04127 BTC

04:27:20 danielpbarron: if the DEX is even accurate

04:29:41 dub: fuck is xcp

04:30:10 danielpbarron: counterparty money (it's like mastercoin)

04:34:20 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: So how many meat for 0.05 BTC?

04:38:04 danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, 38`538`008 MEAT per 0.05 BTC

04:38:53 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I'll take all the meat then, post address

04:39:47 danielpbarron: well I don't have that much meat; are you saying you'll pay extra for it?

04:39:59 danielpbarron: I wouldn't mind donating for some mr. a's to get that much meat for you

04:40:06 danielpbarron: thereby converting my USD into BTC :D

04:40:07 BingoBoingo: Well, I want to help put this thing out of its misery.

04:40:26 BingoBoingo: But avoiding putting BTC into USD

04:40:35 BingoBoingo: How many BTC to kill this asset?

04:41:08 benkay: aw now you've gone and hurt danielpbarron's feelings!

04:41:25 danielpbarron: 0.05 is more than enough to buy the 24`541`500 MEAT that I have ready to go

04:42:46 BingoBoingo: Well, Sounds like the cap on this then is well under 0.05

04:43:10 danielpbarron: I'd rather do it on the DEX so it gets tracked on the top assets graph, but I'm not gonna turn down BTC if you send it here: 1MbPpiePrxuQLMeGZZJiYPbuta5farHyto

04:44:01 danielpbarron: I can send the MEAT to any BTC address, but it's probably best if you get an address from counterwallet.co if you want to trade them easily

04:44:25 danielpbarron: unless you're already running counterparty on one of your machines

04:44:39 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Send the meat to Atruk 947952eaf8724b41837f490a6e8049810399651cb2725c383a28f822b2350929 I want the actual meat

04:44:39 benkay: <BingoBoingo> How many BTC to kill this asset? // doesn't sound like there's much trading in MEAT's future.

04:44:50 BingoBoingo: All of it

04:45:10 danielpbarron: ...

04:45:33 danielpbarron: :p

04:45:41 danielpbarron: alright well i'm just gonna donate for some more meat to cover it again

04:46:33 danielpbarron: that's a deal if you want; I'll send you 27`000`000 actual KoL meat for 0.05 BTC

04:46:36 benkay: the misery persists!

04:49:09 BingoBoingo: Imma just spend it on spectral pickles anyways

04:50:55 mircea_popescu: https://www.guerrillamail.com/#/bitcoin btw

04:50:56 assbot: Guerrilla Mail - Disposable Temporary E-Mail Address

04:51:05 danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, Package sent.

04:51:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://mailinator.com - ancient

04:51:59 assbot: Mailinator

04:52:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the bitcoin part.

04:52:49 asciilifeform: aha

04:53:08 BingoBoingo: thank you danielpbarron

04:54:17 danielpbarron: heh, just donated another 30 USD to jick for some mr. a's

05:01:15 BingoBoingo: !up VanCleef Ur welcome Dudebro

05:01:24 VanCleef: thanks bro

05:01:32 VanCleef: i miss this room

05:02:17 benkay: hey VanCleef how've you been

05:02:45 VanCleef: good thanks benkay bro, yourself?

05:02:51 benkay: casi casi

05:03:02 benkay: just successfully scripted a postgres install on ubuntu

05:06:45 benkay: flopped out of bed last night and threw my back out too, huzzah

05:15:13 BingoBoingo: !up hanbot

05:21:59 hanbot: ty kindly BB. was going to pester mike_c for the reasoning behind closing wol betting @ 21 blocks to game closure, as opposed to whatever, 50, 10, etc. anyone else know?

05:23:18 BingoBoingo: Maybe number correlates to buttplug size?

05:23:44 hanbot: lol whose?

05:25:43 BingoBoingo: Well, whoever is a size 21

05:28:34 hanbot: reasonable enough, i'm satisfied.

05:34:32 BingoBoingo: !up VanCleef

05:34:47 BingoBoingo: VanCleef: Were you the NYDFS van cleef

05:58:13 kyuupichan: So why does bitcoin-qt sit forever at some blocks whilst catching up? WTF is it doing?

06:18:56 cazalla: my guess when it's happened to me is that there is more tx in the block but i really have nfi

06:30:46 decimation: quit

06:55:08 []bot: Bet placed: 1.9999 BTC for No on "BTC to top $800 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/994/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 15.29142557 BTC. Current weight: 74,316.

07:22:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 265 @ 0.00271399 = 0.7192 BTC [+]

07:52:32 jurov: <mike_c> [00:09:08] btw, jurov, that mid-line on the history chart what you had in mind? << to see more easily if it was above/below 50%

07:53:37 jurov: nm you added it

07:59:24 pankkake: ;;later tell asciilifeform I sold headphones. Tried to sold hard drives but no success. It's not very practical anyway, I think it's going to end up on eBay with a Bitcoin discount

07:59:24 gribble: The operation succeeded.

07:59:40 pankkake: tried to sold. lol. if only I read what I wrote

08:00:16 pankkake: freenode is really crappy lately

08:02:49 pankkake: ;;view

08:02:52 gribble: #21093 Thu Jul 17 04:01:53 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 TB @ 25 EUR (Up to 6x1.5TB and 4x750GB hard drives #eu only because heavy objects, I prefer grouped order) || #21094 Thu Jul 17 04:02:10 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/)

09:11:03 fluffypony: hrrrrm

09:11:07 fluffypony: is bitcointa.lk broken?

09:11:17 fluffypony: no updates since July 8th

09:11:18 fluffypony: :(

09:14:30 pankkake: ;;seen cedivad

09:14:30 gribble: cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, 18 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: <cedivad> Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that.

09:14:57 fluffypony: pity

10:40:54 ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/

10:40:54 assbot: Bitcoin News, Prices, Charts, Guides & Analysis - CoinDesk

10:41:01 ThickAsThieves: oops

10:41:08 ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/world-bank-report-bitcoin-naturally-occurring-ponzi/

10:41:09 assbot: World Bank Report: Bitcoin is a 'Naturally Occurring' Ponzi

10:41:14 ThickAsThieves: told you guys!

10:42:18 davout: as opposed to government-regulated ponzees

10:45:07 pankkake: "And it isn’t safe given hacking of it." "and on how to enhance efficiency and cut transactions cost" guy can't even into English

11:22:01 ThickAsThieves: http://economicsandlaw.org/fajlovi/Vol10/No.%2010%20-%20Economics%20and%20Law.pdf#page=138

11:59:53 nubbins`: ;;later tell BingoBoingo we've never printed on rugs, can't imagine it'd be very nice

11:59:53 gribble: The operation succeeded.

12:00:19 nubbins`: we do, however, cut rugs on the regular

12:01:18 jurov: maybe he meant to use knitting machine instead of print

12:02:13 nubbins`: i think rugs are hooked

12:02:24 nubbins`: i admittedly have no idea but it seems like a fairly industrious process

12:03:50 nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhTfw6UzFWs

12:03:50 assbot: Jaipur, India: Silk Screen Factory - YouTube

12:03:55 nubbins`: amazing

12:03:55 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

12:04:02 nubbins`: ^

12:06:55 nubbins`: incidentally, that's how wallpaper is printed in boutique first-world shops

12:27:51 xmj: Booooo

12:27:55 xmj: Google doesn't want me.

12:29:27 pankkake: in what way?

12:30:38 nkuttler: easy, become more attractive

12:32:23 xmj: was that what she said?

12:43:32 chetty: <xmj> Google doesn't want me.//lucky

12:50:43 pankkake: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28348223

12:50:44 assbot: BBC News - Microsoft set to axe 18,000 jobs

12:52:05 dub: if only they used actual axes

12:53:41 diana_coman: if it's of any interest to anyone, a bit of playing with the logs: http://www.ossasepia.com/2014/07/17/get-one-just-like-bitcoin-people/

12:53:42 assbot: “Get one just like bitcoin people” in Ossasepia

12:58:25 mircea_popescu: No better test to see text mining fail, it seems, than applying it to irc logs on bitcoin-assets: a careful calibration of state of the art tools yielded only a clear case of ?by the time you figure out and implement everything needed to obtain even reasonable results, you surely did the ?automated? work at least 5 times if not 10, if not 100.?

12:58:49 mircea_popescu: this is proof of intelligence i say

13:01:36 mircea_popescu: given the enthusiasm of text mining people << this is the enthusiasm of the doomed - it doesn't reflect anything on the direct avenue, but is merely the nervous laugh of someone who just got cut in half.

13:02:39 chetty: well to mine anything you sort of need to know what you are looking for

13:02:53 mircea_popescu: text mining people are among the few who appreciate the problem of text deluge close to its actual size, which is another way to say they actually know we're surrounded by uncontrolled wildfire. that they pretend like you know, pissing on it works is more the result of their psychological need to fit in with the rest of the crowd, that blisfully ignores the problem, than anything else.

13:03:07 mircea_popescu: in any case the end of civilisation is here simply because we've lost control of text.

13:03:44 mircea_popescu: chetty yeah. it becomes problematic when you provably can't know, yet you still have to. this is a macroproblem of "nobody knows wtf the tax code says"

13:13:00 diana_coman: mircea_popescu yeah, I kind of expected that, but as I said - it was more for the fun and getting to read all that + there is proof now out there

13:13:39 pankkake: shouldn't common words be excluded? I used to do that to IRC stats

13:13:53 diana_coman: pankkake, I excluded the most common ones

13:14:02 diana_coman: I guess it depends on what you consider common

13:14:12 diana_coman: I excluded stuff like "the" "a" etc

13:14:39 diana_coman: obviously, excluding some more could make it a bit better, but from what I saw, it doesn't get it too far still

13:14:50 pankkake: right

13:15:23 ThickAsThieves: as i read diana's post, it occurs to me how much this channel is like the Howard Stern show

13:15:23 diana_coman: simply because of the fact that the discussions really are pretty much about everything and in all forms and shapes

13:15:33 ThickAsThieves: mp is Stern, providing most content

13:15:45 ThickAsThieves: while friends like Robin and baba incite it

13:15:55 ThickAsThieves: nubbins, me, ascii, etc

13:16:09 ThickAsThieves: we even have the sexual bent

13:16:13 ThickAsThieves: in the content

13:16:36 ThickAsThieves: Stern also had similar standards for guests of the show

13:17:24 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves what standards are those ?

13:17:31 diana_coman: ThickAsThieves it clearly is driven mainly by a few people

13:17:35 mircea_popescu: o nm, i misread

13:17:37 ThickAsThieves: like he'd try to get certain people on

13:17:41 ThickAsThieves: and wouldnt allow some

13:17:48 ThickAsThieves: and enjoyed company of sluts

13:17:57 chetty: haha the b-a reality show, comming soon

13:17:57 mircea_popescu: lol. and had wild hair.

13:18:09 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves can you summarize them standards ?

13:18:21 ThickAsThieves: shit i havent watched/listened in years

13:18:29 ThickAsThieves: surely google can help

13:18:42 ThickAsThieves: his movie is pretty good too, if you havent seen it

13:19:11 mircea_popescu: pankkake actually if i had to somehow do what she's trying to do, i'd cheat : get the words put into !s and ;;ud, look three lines prior for the sentence they appear in, build the sentence tree and then use that grammatical pattern on the whole log.

13:19:25 mircea_popescu: extract all words which work syntactically in the same manner as the searched terms.

13:19:28 dub: all I remember is the awful scene with that chick raping a woofer

13:19:37 mircea_popescu: because what the search does is it says "this is an important AND OBSCURE" term.

13:19:45 mircea_popescu: whereas you want to see important and anti-obscure words.

13:19:47 ThickAsThieves: dub it was indeed memorable

13:19:57 mircea_popescu: dub you know that's what i know of stern too ?

13:20:16 mircea_popescu: o wait, he also had a girl that fucked her mother on once ? or what was it ?

13:20:27 ThickAsThieves: he had all kindsa shit like that

13:21:27 ThickAsThieves: geez, Stern is 60?

13:21:28 dub: that and he's weird al's doppleganger

13:21:40 diana_coman: mircea_popescu uhm, the structures did not seem so uniform, but it could be worth a try

13:21:46 mircea_popescu: dub nah, weird al is all fat. stern looks more like zappa imo

13:22:20 ThickAsThieves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fines_of_The_Howard_Stern_Show

13:22:20 assbot: FCC fines of The Howard Stern Show - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

13:23:53 ThickAsThieves: !s diana_coman

13:23:54 assbot: 6 results for 'diana_coman' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=diana_coman

13:24:00 mircea_popescu: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2005/11/howard-stern2.gif | http://www.vinylrecords.ch/F/FR/Frank_Zappa/cruising/frank-zappa-portrait.jpg

13:24:20 ThickAsThieves: what brings you here diana_coman?

13:24:24 mircea_popescu: lmao wait, wikipedia has a page dedicated to "fcc fines stern" ?! ahahah.

13:25:01 ThickAsThieves: you are behind MP, you need an SEC fine page

13:25:02 diana_coman: ThickAsThieves curiosity mainly; I've been around for a while, but I don't talk much

13:25:15 ThickAsThieves: or, hell, FCC too

13:25:21 ThickAsThieves: cool cool

13:25:35 mircea_popescu: !up andreas__

13:25:49 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah, i don't. i'd much rather google spit out fraudsters than wikipedia.

13:26:17 ThickAsThieves: true, i guess we can always detail your exploits in the b-a wiki

13:26:41 mircea_popescu: hm i guess this is actually open for some comparison.

13:27:02 mircea_popescu: hey everyone that is awake : please put in a list of five words that you'd estimate are the key terms for [your interest of] b-a

13:27:26 mircea_popescu: then we can actually score how well the computer did.

13:28:06 dub: scam scam scam scam and scam

13:28:48 chetty: people have 'fixed' interests like that?

13:29:00 ThickAsThieves: i cant do it without losing context

13:29:10 mircea_popescu: chetty yeah, as i said that i was sitting here going wtf i have nfi what i should write now.

13:29:15 mircea_popescu: this is what i get for being impulsive.

13:29:20 ThickAsThieves: like i could just say bitcoin, or mircea_popescu

13:29:30 pankkake: surprising that scam wasn't one of the top words

13:29:36 mircea_popescu: i mean something like ipo ceo scam mpex bitbet i guess, but wtf. i have no idea i'll be interested in what ppl say BEFORE they say it.

13:29:38 pankkake: scam, troll, tits, slander, ?

13:29:39 diana_coman: ThickAsThieves that's what the computer said!

13:29:56 pankkake: scam, troll, tits, slander, AMAZING

13:29:56 dub: computer says no

13:30:08 chetty: thats the whole thing, data is nothing without context

13:30:11 mircea_popescu: AMAZING COMPANY!

13:30:35 ThickAsThieves: but really it's mor elike: bitcoin current affairs & discourse

13:30:42 mircea_popescu: someone should send dub a viking hat anyway.

13:31:06 dub: it wouldnt fit over my batman mask

13:31:19 mircea_popescu: Viking-Batman Dub.

13:31:26 mircea_popescu: now that's a comic i'd check out.

13:33:37 los_pantalones: repartee peers encyclopedic knowledge logs

13:33:48 mircea_popescu: !s repartee

13:33:49 assbot: 1 results for 'repartee' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=repartee

13:33:54 mircea_popescu: you lose :D

13:34:02 los_pantalones: damn!

13:34:15 mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/keywords_may14-300x253.png <<< the most notable thing i see here is that "first" and "last" have the same motherfucking weight.

13:34:42 mircea_popescu: do that on twitter/reddit/btctalk/coindesk w/e, it's all FIRST and LARGEST and etc.

13:35:40 mircea_popescu: and wtf is "mbuy

13:37:42 los_pantalones: why is "well" on here but not "welp" ?

13:37:59 ThickAsThieves: cuz no one says welp

13:38:34 mircea_popescu: http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/116066/2283684-Jimmy_bieber_Popcorn_cu-thumb-350x197-14878.gif << someone put this in the bitbet wail thread about the sr auction.

13:38:43 mircea_popescu: imo it's the best popcorn pic ON THE INTERNETS

13:38:48 ThickAsThieves: lol

13:39:00 mircea_popescu: los_pantalones you understand, this is based on the logs, it's not meta.

13:39:15 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot gabriel_laddel

13:39:15 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user gabriel_laddel: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=gabriel_laddel | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gabriel_laddel | Rated since: never

13:39:23 mircea_popescu: ;;rate gabriel_laddel 1 New blood

13:39:24 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

13:39:31 mircea_popescu: !up gabriel_laddel

13:39:35 mircea_popescu: suppose you get to that hm ?

13:39:53 gabriel_laddel: Registering with gribble?

13:39:55 gabriel_laddel: Of course.

13:39:59 mircea_popescu: k

13:40:30 gabriel_laddel: I read logs+loper-os+fraudsters, I have not yet registered for my own reasons.

13:43:02 cazalla: lulz im porn.gif, wtf no img tags in comments? scam

13:43:06 cazalla: popcorn.gif i means

13:45:21 mircea_popescu: cause people would prolly put all sorts of huge pagebreaking shit

13:48:18 mircea_popescu: diana_coman users-by-lines is already in http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ users-by-words and per-user-mean-wordlength'd have been moar interesting.

13:48:18 assbot: #bitcoin-assets stats

13:51:24 mircea_popescu: which also brings us to a disparity : "users by lines, last 12 months 2.) mircea_popescu 92547" according to kako

13:52:03 mircea_popescu: 's stats ; logs between 26 March 2013 and 12 June 2014. mircea_popescu 91479 according to diana_coman. well which is it ? cause these can't both be right

13:53:55 chetty: navel gazing

13:54:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform drops from 18964 in 12 months to 16627 in 15 months.

13:55:33 mircea_popescu: chetty hm ?

13:56:48 chetty: just noticing the self absorbtion of a channel mostly talking about itself, perhaps b-a is becoming enlightened?

13:58:04 kakobrekla: mircea_popescu at least one day got thrown out from the log data so there wont be 100% match

13:58:10 mircea_popescu: first, they mocked others, but i didn't say anything because they weren't mocking me. then they started talking about themselves but i didn't say anything because i wasn't there. and now there's nothing to talk about.

13:58:51 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you mean cuz assbot didn't see it ? how did it put it in the stats then ?

13:59:23 kakobrekla: no, its in the logs it just that we couldnt make sense of it

13:59:25 kakobrekla: O_o

13:59:58 mircea_popescu: you are making sense right now.

14:02:35 kakobrekla: on i side not, i figured it out now whats the problem but whatever doesnt matter.

14:02:50 mircea_popescu: x.x

14:02:56 kakobrekla: on a side note

14:03:09 kakobrekla: obv i need coffee. brb.

14:03:48 jurov: lul dotcoin is hungry https://www.crowdfunder.com/bitcoin-sarl/deal/

14:03:50 assbot: Bitcoin SARL: Nice, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur, FR | www.crowdfunder.com

14:04:10 fluffypony: yeah wtf

14:04:14 fluffypony: "Markus Weiler has invited you to view Bitcoin SARL's fundraising details on their Crowdfunder Deal. Check out their Deal on Crowdfunder.com."

14:04:19 fluffypony: just saw that mail

14:04:32 fluffypony: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/

14:04:32 assbot: Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin

14:04:34 mircea_popescu: awww y no kickstarter

14:04:37 fluffypony: twizt spotted that

14:05:09 fluffypony: here's the proposed framework: http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf

14:06:24 mircea_popescu: Section 200.15 Anti-money laundering program << stopped reading.

14:06:53 mircea_popescu: no-anti-money-laundering is not negotiable.

14:07:08 ThickAsThieves: https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/

14:07:09 assbot: Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin

14:07:19 mircea_popescu: pay.reddit.com ?

14:07:23 ThickAsThieves: http://www.dfs.ny.gov/about/press2014/pr1407171-vc.pdf

14:07:44 jurov: fluffypony can you request access to see what dotcoin derpage?

14:07:48 fluffypony: jurov: sure

14:07:50 ThickAsThieves: dunno wat the pay subdom is

14:09:28 ThickAsThieves: " No Person shall, without a license obtained from the superintendent as provided in

14:09:28 ThickAsThieves: this Part, engage in any Virtual Currency Business Activity."

14:10:03 ThickAsThieves: merchants and consumers that utilize Virtual Currency solely for the purchase or sale of goods or

14:10:03 ThickAsThieves: services are exempt

14:13:31 ThickAsThieves: Each Licensee is prohibited from selling, transferring, assigning, lending, hypothecating, pledging, or

14:13:31 ThickAsThieves: otherwise using or encumbering assets, including Virtual Currency, held, stored, or maintained by, or under the custody or control of, such Licensee on behalf of another Person.

14:14:06 mircea_popescu: ahahahaha

14:14:11 mircea_popescu: wtf are these idiots.

14:14:27 mircea_popescu: it's a fucking fixed volume deflationary currency. it can't even jokingly contemplate such an arrangement.

14:15:44 mircea_popescu: so what, this is the strat, "prevent bitcoin from raping the usd by making it unable to work like a currency" ? lulz. people will just move to connecticut.

14:16:07 mircea_popescu: this is roughly the equivalent of a license to build boats provided they're oar powered and leak.

14:16:37 pankkake: re boats, this is what the French gov did to Uber

14:17:03 ThickAsThieves: When a Licensee is involved in a transaction or series of transactions for the receipt, exchange, conversion, purchase, sale, transfer, or transmission of Virtual Currency, in an aggregate amount exceeding the United States dollar value of $10,000 in one day, by one Person, the Licensee shall notify the Department, in a manner prescribed by the superintendent, within 24 hours.

14:17:10 pankkake: "you might do your thing but you have to wait 15 min" then "you might do your thing but you can't use geolocalization"

14:17:26 mircea_popescu: pankkake lmao

14:19:09 ThickAsThieves: Licensees are prohibited from maintaining relationships of any type in connection with their Virtual Currency Business Activity with entities that do not have a physical presence in any country.

14:19:20 ThickAsThieves: hmm

14:19:23 mircea_popescu: lmao

14:20:26 mircea_popescu: ah lanky guy behind a very short sixty dollar desk, how amusing you are.

14:21:50 dignork: Regulators might think of something like this: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-protected-vericoin-stolen-mintpal-wallet-breach/

14:21:50 assbot: 8 Million Vericoin Hack Prompts Hard Fork to Recover Funds

14:21:55 pankkake: I suppose reddit will say "but we were supposed to be friends"

14:23:33 mircea_popescu: "About FoxySoft. FoxySoft is founded by Alex Allen. Alex has been a professional game developer since 1997 when she began her career as an Art Director, transforming traditional board games into PC games. FoxySoft works with local businesses and startup foundations to create a solid business model and ensure stability in the company?s framework. FoxySoft?s combined talent and experience has produced such games as:

14:23:33 mircea_popescu: DC Universe Online Star Wars Galaxies PlanetSide 2 Magic the Gathering Everquest 2"

14:23:33 diana_coman: mircea_popescu re mismatch in number of lines - there are some missing in my data (part is what kakobrekla said earlier that I had to throw out one day due to funny things with the timestamps)

14:23:59 ThickAsThieves: well Lawsky wants public comment, so be sure to make public comment mp

14:24:05 mircea_popescu: i have.

14:24:14 ThickAsThieves: reddit is so funny

14:24:16 mircea_popescu: lansky is not important enough just yet to pick his venue.

14:24:16 diana_coman: as for words and mean length, I'll be back with it in a few moments

14:24:27 ThickAsThieves: all the commenters dont want to read it or think for themselves

14:24:39 ThickAsThieves: so they are all literally asking what to think

14:24:41 mircea_popescu: well it IS reddit...

14:24:42 ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2aycxs/hi_this_is_ben_lawsky_at_nydfs_here_are_the/

14:24:43 assbot: Hi, this is Ben Lawsky at NYDFS. Here are the proposed BitLicense regulations. : Bitcoin

14:25:49 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i like the part where someone tipped him three fiddy

14:26:06 mircea_popescu: guy actually has to file paperwork for that, which i bet you he doesn't know about and doesn't do,

14:26:19 mircea_popescu: which i bet you will result in a criminal complaint cca 2015ish.

14:26:31 ThickAsThieves: lol

14:27:06 pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2avch7/survey_results_bitcoin_survey/

14:27:08 assbot: Survey Results | Bitcoin Survey : Bitcoin

14:27:19 mircea_popescu: that's the funny thing with the usg bureaucracy, the entire "make the laws too complex and then add regulation" thing used to work in their favour cca 1980-1990. but once that starts moving it doesn't stop, and now they're left behind.

14:27:40 mircea_popescu: i don't think i've ever had an encounter with any sort of govt employee where i couldn't have sued him into the dirt if so inclined.

14:28:48 mthreat: mircea_popescu: what a great "DOS" type attack - do things such as tip them small amounts, so they have to file paperwork or be guilty of something

14:29:51 mircea_popescu: mthreat this is the problem of half baked systems. just like sm sites are structurally vulnerable because they misimplement the wot, just like the phone corps & banks are vulnerable because they misimplement crypto,

14:30:07 mircea_popescu: everyone in the old world is very, very vulnerable to a long long list of new attacks.

14:30:26 mircea_popescu: stuff like goatse and rick rolling are merely playful swings around the margins of the gaping hole.

14:31:28 mircea_popescu: take something as simple as swatting : nothing in the old world is designed or capable to handle distributed coordinated effort.

14:32:22 cazalla: swatting a bitcoin conference

14:32:24 chetty: hmm wonder if you could swat an IRS office ..

14:32:28 cazalla: now that'd be lulzy

14:33:17 chetty: dragon should be occupied eating its own tail

14:33:25 mthreat: ya but swatting is presumably illegal. tipping is not, so thousands of people could conceivably do it without breaking any law

14:33:43 mircea_popescu: mthreat it only became illegal after they caught on.

14:33:58 chetty: plenty of stuff they havent gotten around to making illegal - yet

14:34:03 mircea_popescu: but before they caught on... it wasn't. so what is this, bayesian spam filtering ?

14:34:18 mircea_popescu: done by hand by people who never got past 9th grade math ?

14:35:37 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

14:35:38 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 616.93, Best ask: 618.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.97000, Last trade: 618.89, 24 hour volume: 5229.14362461, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 623.0, 24 hour vwap: 615.352893005

14:37:18 ThickAsThieves: china tried to rally but failed so far

14:44:28 mircea_popescu: i guess someone has to try and fail for the rest to get it. teaching without training is kinda dead in the water.

14:46:46 mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1

14:49:09 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/994/btc-to-top-800-before-august/ this thing keeps growing but remarkably the odds stay about the same

14:49:09 assbot: BitBet - BTC to top $800 before August :: 3.01 B (19%) on Yes, 12.92 B (81%) on No | closing in 1 week 4 days | weight: 72`228 (100`000 to 1)

14:50:16 ThickAsThieves: oh shit, read Lanksy's definition of Virtual Currency

14:50:22 ThickAsThieves: it includes centralized

14:50:24 diana_coman: mircea_popescu updated the post with users by words and mean wordlength per user (per line), is that what you meant?

14:50:40 ThickAsThieves: so does AmazonCoin and such have to comply now?

14:50:58 ThickAsThieves: what about video game currencies?

14:51:34 ThickAsThieves: nevermind

14:51:39 ThickAsThieves: he excludes gaming platforms

14:51:41 mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/meanWordlength_all.png << 11 ?

14:51:47 mircea_popescu: does that count url as words ?

14:52:07 ThickAsThieves: also excludes reward programs and such

14:57:18 kakobrekla: so what you are saying is that im barely readable?

14:58:27 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://bareisbest.tumblr.com/post/32499335130

14:58:51 kakobrekla: hehe

15:00:44 fluffypony: where is nap hex? he's disappeared :(

15:00:48 fluffypony: *naphex

15:08:36 indiancandy1: wassuo bitches

15:08:39 indiancandy1: wassup

15:08:48 indiancandy1: who wants 2 buy me a ticket 2 india

15:08:52 indiancandy1: il do anything

15:09:45 diana_coman: mircea_popescu yes, it counts urls, but that's not the top by wordlength, the title was misleading I guess; updated now

15:10:35 diana_coman: it's a bit of a hack so not terribly precise - I count non-words and then add 1 - I've used basic string processing rather than all the text mining shit

15:10:42 mircea_popescu: ah words per line. okay. also meant letters per word i guess

15:10:55 diana_coman: uhm, think that would be of interest?

15:11:04 diana_coman: kind of who uses the longest words or what?

15:11:10 mircea_popescu: yea

15:11:14 diana_coman: can be calculated though, not big deal

15:11:26 mircea_popescu: !s hisb0hla

15:11:27 assbot: 9 results for 'hisb0hla' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=hisb0hla

15:11:32 mircea_popescu: wow i had no idea.

15:11:42 diana_coman: that's the problem with the mean just like that

15:11:51 diana_coman: if you throw a wall of text once, that's it

15:12:03 mircea_popescu: !s omu

15:12:03 assbot: 3 results for 'omu' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=omu

15:12:23 mircea_popescu: lol i guess so yeah

15:12:25 mircea_popescu: awell

15:12:28 diana_coman: yeah, that's why I did not put the top 10 initially

15:12:39 diana_coman: it's mainly spammers at the top based on pure length of line

15:12:48 mircea_popescu: can it be "out of the top 100 by lines" ?

15:13:02 diana_coman: sure, I've put now out of the top 10 by lines

15:13:05 diana_coman: can extend that, np

15:20:25 asciilifeform: !up indiancandy1

15:22:37 nubbins`: so if i'm understanding correctly, that text mining blog post is recommending that people pay attention to what i have to say?

15:22:43 *: nubbins` chuckles softly

15:23:52 nubbins`: ;;dict "fait accompli"

15:23:52 gribble: wn: fait accompli n 1: an irreversible accomplishment [syn: {fait accompli}, {accomplished fact}]

15:24:19 diana_coman: mircea_popescu updated with those in top 100 considered

15:24:35 mircea_popescu: ;;dict "faire minette"

15:24:36 gribble: No definition for "faire minette" could be found in wn

15:24:42 diana_coman: I've limited it to at least 12 words per line though

15:24:45 mircea_popescu: well i guess wn is anti woman then, innit.

15:25:18 nubbins`: always suspected

15:25:29 nubbins`: just printed a short run of these: http://imgur.com/6WlZear

15:25:30 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

15:25:31 pankkake: wn?

15:25:56 nubbins`: webster's new?

15:26:27 pankkake: otherwise, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/faire_minette

15:26:27 assbot: faire minette - Wiktionary

15:26:43 nubbins`: :o

15:27:13 nubbins`: hm.

15:27:26 nubbins`: lit: make kitty?

15:27:36 BingoBoingo: Oh, today is textual analysis day, but no hermeneutics or historicity?

15:27:40 pankkake: ;;dict "glouglouter le poireau"

15:27:42 gribble: No definition for "glouglouter le poireau" could be found in wn

15:27:52 pankkake: nubbins`: yes

15:28:06 *: nubbins` nods slowly

15:28:12 diana_coman: nubbins` more to when you say something than to what :p

15:28:47 nubbins`: diana_coman: i feel like i should dig a "beware" sign into the soil somewhere 8)

15:29:25 diana_coman: see, that's why: 'cause you care :D

15:30:33 mircea_popescu: so apparently a passenger plane got shot down in ukraina

15:30:39 indiancandy1: seriosly

15:30:41 indiancandy1: though

15:30:45 indiancandy1: buy me a ticket to india

15:30:47 indiancandy1: :(

15:31:10 mircea_popescu: why ?

15:32:25 pankkake: indian beggar and romanian scammer, could you guys be less stereotypical

15:32:43 pankkake: wait, I'm the French complainer

15:33:24 mike_c: HAHAH. (loud american)

15:33:37 *: nubbins` coughs, rubs eyes

15:34:02 mike_c: sickly canadian?

15:34:16 indiancandy1: becazuse

15:34:19 indiancandy1: i need 2 get to india

15:34:23 indiancandy1: and i cant afford it

15:34:25 indiancandy1: so

15:34:29 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 forget your needs. focus on mine.

15:34:35 nubbins`: mike_c: sure, why not

15:34:37 indiancandy1: okay

15:34:39 indiancandy1: trade

15:34:42 indiancandy1: get me a ticket

15:34:47 indiancandy1: il do dirty things 4 u

15:34:49 indiancandy1: if u like

15:34:51 mike_c: omg. more than one word per line please.

15:34:58 indiancandy1: sorry dear

15:35:13 mircea_popescu: well, thing is... i don't really need you to do dirty things.

15:35:26 indiancandy1: im not only talking to you every other man in here

15:35:37 mircea_popescu: it's mostly women.

15:35:39 nubbins`: what has this place become

15:35:40 indiancandy1: im super hot and sexxy and horny LMAO and i need a one way ticket to india so

15:35:57 indiancandy1: who wants to trade ?

15:35:59 mircea_popescu: you done the begging video yet ?

15:36:14 pankkake: well, I need women to do dirty things for me, but I can't afford it

15:36:24 mircea_popescu: !up jakethesnake

15:36:38 nubbins`: pankkake: i need to send someone to india, but i'm a prude

15:36:41 indiancandy1: ur offering me 60bucks my ticket is 500gbp

15:36:47 mircea_popescu: pankkake if you find a whore, bring her here and then fuck her i'll pay for it.

15:37:21 jakethesnake: first time here -how does this wokr

15:37:25 asciilifeform: never understood folks who beg for airplane tickets. what do they intend to eat at the destination ?

15:37:36 jakethesnake: is this a bitcoin chat or what

15:37:53 pankkake: free food in airplanes!

15:37:54 nubbins`: asciilifeform: shit

15:37:56 nubbins`: :D

15:37:59 pankkake: this is the bitcoin chat

15:38:04 nubbins`: with apologies to gabriel garcia marquez

15:38:09 jakethesnake: where you from pankkake

15:38:18 pankkake: France

15:38:23 chetty: hello jakethesnake welcome, and its pretty much a free for all most of the time

15:38:24 nubbins`: jakethesnake: it is a bitcoin chat, after a fashion

15:38:29 indiancandy1: well i can pay for my accomodation is you buy my ticket

15:38:42 indiancandy1: if i buy my ticket i cant afford accomodation

15:38:49 jakethesnake: is anyone working on bitcoin initiatives in africa right now?

15:38:51 indiancandy1: i have 750 gbp til the 10th of aug

15:39:02 jakethesnake: i've got a few investors interested in starting something but am looking for some bitcoin expertise to assist

15:39:14 BingoBoingo: jakethesnake: A what sort of thing?

15:39:24 mike_c: fluffypony is in SA.

15:39:26 mircea_popescu: jakethesnake you could start by reading the logs.

15:39:28 mircea_popescu: ;;topic

15:39:29 gribble: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com

15:39:43 indiancandy1: mircea il do u a beg video for a tricket :P

15:39:44 pankkake: and search.bitcoin-assets.com

15:39:46 indiancandy1: ticket

15:39:52 nubbins`: indiancandy1 ah get out

15:39:52 jakethesnake: mircea - where would i find those... sorry for being such a n00b haha

15:39:54 mircea_popescu: a tricket lol

15:40:10 indiancandy1: baby dont laugh at me im upset right now

15:40:53 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

15:40:54 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 624.2, Best ask: 625.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 624.2, 24 hour volume: 6238.53812135, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 616.889309913

15:41:06 BingoBoingo: %t

15:41:12 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 15k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210

15:41:12 pankkake: %diff

15:41:14 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 785138.67 Est. Next Diff: 503232.97 in 525 blocks (#40320) Est. % Change: -35.91

15:41:22 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

15:41:26 gribble: Current Blocks: 311181 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1298 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 5 hours, 9 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18420013228.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.25102

15:41:32 BingoBoingo: Both coins holding steady

15:42:22 indiancandy1: mp u have all that money come on whats 50 gbp 2 u

15:42:25 indiancandy1: 500*

15:42:39 mircea_popescu: !down indiancandy1

15:42:49 nubbins`: i was just checking to see when the half hour was up

15:42:55 nubbins`: 8 minutes short ;D

15:43:24 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejGQ5oIuP9c

15:43:24 assbot: Monty Python - Airplane Hijack - YouTube

15:44:04 chetty: 20 rockets were found Wednesday in a school in Gaza operated by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency

15:44:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1001 @ 0.00269901 = 2.7017 BTC [-] {2}

15:45:02 asciilifeform: nubbins`: marquez << lol! that was my favourite line in the entire book!

15:45:20 nubbins`: such a summation, hey :D

15:45:47 asciilifeform: '?Y mientras tanto qu? comemos ?pregunt?, y agarr? al coronel por el cuello de la franela. Lo sacudi? con energ?a?. Dime, qu? comemos. El coronel necesit? setenta y cinco a?os ?los setenta y cinco a?os de su vida, minuto a minuto? para llegar a ese instante. Se sinti? puro, expl?cito, invencible, en el momento de responder. ? Mierda.'

15:45:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 312 @ 0.00271381 = 0.8467 BTC [+] {2}

15:47:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1460 @ 0.00270981 = 3.9563 BTC [-] {2}

15:55:18 mike_c: hanbot: The betting closes ~20 blocks early because otherwise the very end game presents situations that I think are non-healthy. same kind of reasons for bitbet closing bets early. the last open year is 979 because the last paid bomb goes off on year 980.

15:55:46 mike_c: ;;later tell hanbot http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759770

15:55:47 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

15:55:47 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:00:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79196920 BTC to 12`355 shares, 14504 satoshi per share

16:01:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 25.13873768 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 2186 satoshi per share

16:02:24 mthreat: mircea_popescu: I read about your flashlight woes. Here's one to consider: http://www.fleshlight.com/classics/

16:02:25 assbot: Classics

16:05:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 65 @ 0.01634999 = 1.0627 BTC [+] {3}

16:07:02 mike_c: this feels the same as "bitbet is a scam" flamewars: "[FCC levies huge fine on Stern] Clear Channel responded by dropping The Howard Stern Show permanently on its six stations. Stern's audience increased by 23% in Chicago and 22% in New York, and he regained the morning top spot in Los Angeles amongst listeners aged 25-54 for the first time since 1995."

16:29:09 BingoBoingo: http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/White_Wednesday

16:29:10 assbot: White Wednesday - TheKolWiki

17:23:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 198 @ 0.00270999 = 0.5366 BTC [-]

17:38:43 danielpbarron: 12:29:10 <+BingoBoingo> http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/White_Wednesday << that's not the only time something like that happened

17:38:43 assbot: White Wednesday - TheKolWiki

17:38:57 danielpbarron: but Jick has a brilliant way of dealing with massive f-ups

17:39:13 danielpbarron: he just writes up a new storyline that connects the loose ends

17:39:34 danielpbarron: adds a new meat-sinking plot line

17:40:55 danielpbarron: like the time a bug was discovered that let any user create endless amounts of meat

17:45:38 FabianB: $status

17:45:40 empyex: FabianB: Proxies: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)

17:45:40 assbot: 401 Authorization Required

18:00:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 381 @ 0.00270999 = 1.0325 BTC [-] {3}

18:01:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 305 @ 0.00271491 = 0.828 BTC [+] {7}

18:14:00 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Microsoft stock to close at over $45 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/970/ Odds: 89(Y):11(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.49894723 BTC. Current weight: 85,448.

18:24:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 301 @ 0.00271999 = 0.8187 BTC [-] {2}

18:26:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.002725 = 0.7903 BTC [+]

19:13:32 mircea_popescu: mthreat better yet, you know of a place in ba that sells that cheap inflatable furniture ?

19:20:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 239 @ 0.002735 = 0.6537 BTC [-]

19:27:01 mircea_popescu: http://static.fleshlight.com/interface/3.0/category-tiles/1841.jpg holy shit now they've done it. fuckable lcd screen, seriously ?

19:27:29 mircea_popescu: no wonder yahoo is making less and less selling clicks.

19:33:33 Namworld: At that point, why not just go for full sized, fully 3-dimensional sexbots you can print designs on with a 3d printer?

19:34:00 Namworld: Guess we just haven't got good enough 3d printing technology and realistic human behavior/movement for robots. Yet.

19:35:04 mircea_popescu: Namworld because as it turns out, nobody actually wants the woman.

19:35:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: japanese robodog has not replaced biodog. similar case here.

19:36:09 mircea_popescu: i beg to differ.

19:36:30 mircea_popescu: lcd displays + internet connection HAVE been steadily replacing dating all over the parts of the world that have cheap broadband.

19:36:46 mircea_popescu: add polyurethane foam in that mix, it's the end.

19:36:48 asciilifeform: dating - sure. end product - no

19:37:03 asciilifeform: not that it is impossible in principle - the tech simply isn't there yet.

19:37:08 mircea_popescu: feminists better yell loudly right now, because i can almost feel the volume button turning.

19:37:26 asciilifeform: herr mocsny spent most of a decade discussing this very subject on usenet.

19:37:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this tech is called "derp not giving a shit". this tech is here yet.

19:38:34 asciilifeform: replacement tech for bio 'product' has an almost inescapable attribute - very little resemblance to the original, in the end. 'airplanes are also birds, they merely don't flap their wings...' (russian, forget who)

19:38:53 mircea_popescu: it's the sad fact of the matter than if you do the nude math, a tube is actually a better girlfriend than whatever random town dweller may run into. that's roughly a third (of western women) of a fifth (western world).

19:39:15 mircea_popescu: confronted to this fact, women balk at exactly how fucking expensive it'd be to try and compete. "what, be fucking pleasant ?"

19:39:41 asciilifeform: ;;google danimal sexbots

19:39:41 gribble: Pictured: The giant 6ft cow that is as big as a small elephant | Mail ...: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-565909/Pictured-The-giant-6ft-cow-big-small-elephant.html; Urban Dictionary: killbot: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=killbot; Cows to be led to slaughter as a euphamism for the current SMP | M3: http://whoism3.wordpress.com/2012/07/06 (1 more message)

19:39:47 asciilifeform: fail

19:39:53 mircea_popescu: all that "lol at sexist women ads from the 50s" obliquely misses the point that "honey, that was then. i wouldn 't settle for a carbureter today, and i wouldn't settle for a 50s housewife only. do more. MUCH more."

19:40:06 asciilifeform: http://hardwick.fi/ilkka/d8.htm

19:40:06 assbot: Danimal Archive

19:40:09 asciilifeform: ^ grep for 'sexbot'

19:40:31 mircea_popescu: "Most present-day women would not be able to compete with future sexbots any more than most present-day women could compete with Halle Berry, if Halle Berry were throwing herself at you."

19:40:34 mircea_popescu: there you go.

19:40:54 asciilifeform: moscny was, admittedly, thinking of androids, rather than tubes.

19:41:43 mircea_popescu: because he was naive, and let his own mind guide him.

19:41:57 mircea_popescu: the average kid today doesn't understand why i'd have bothered with a fixed cabled phone at any point

19:42:12 mircea_popescu: and so he privately wonders why the fuck would i bother with a stable of slaves. "isn't it hard work ?!"

19:42:23 mircea_popescu: i am generally forced to admit that yes, "especially for you, it would be."

19:42:32 chetty: well I can't see why a woman would want a derp that is happy with a tube, let him go have his 'fun'.

19:42:53 mircea_popescu: "The real trouble was that the planners and accountants had failed to make provision for this work. The free women workers employed in the kitchen refused to do it: they were paid only to cook. The administration tried to foist it on to the guards in their off-duty hours when they would otherwise have been playing dominoes in the guardroom. The guards were all healthy young men, chosen for their toughness. But in their

19:42:54 mircea_popescu: years of service they had forgotten how to work. They were soon doubled up with back-ache, and they missed their dominoes."

19:43:24 jurov: http://www.autoblow2.com/ no need for dolls

19:43:25 assbot: Autoblow 2 Blowjob Machine | Male Sex Toys | Sex Toys For Men

19:43:27 mircea_popescu: chetty because most engineers are men, and most bitcoin will be made by engineers (understood broadly).

19:44:04 chetty: I thought we were talking about sex, money is a different issue :P

19:44:11 mircea_popescu: you think ?

19:44:22 mircea_popescu: money and sex can not be different issues.

19:44:47 chetty: sure they can, not for most tho I guess

19:46:25 mircea_popescu: how would they be different issues ? they're both functions of knowledge and power. f(k,p) and h(k,p) aren't gonna be all that different.

19:47:11 mircea_popescu: (in the purely math sense : i'm probably going to be able to write a simple transform)

19:48:00 chetty: sad

19:48:18 mircea_popescu: "Look at how the Internet has overwhelmed opponents of pornography. Back in the 1970's, the conservatives who ruled some towns were able to wipe out pornographic bookstores and theaters. Depending on what town you lived in, pornography might have been hard to come by.

19:48:18 mircea_popescu: Today, the Internet brings every imaginable form of pornography to every home. The Internet is too valuable for too many things to just ban, and we can't even regulate spam that nobody wants, much less a product such as porn for which enormous demand exists."

19:48:27 mircea_popescu: ok, asciilifeform's link above is pretty sweet.

19:48:32 mircea_popescu: who is this guy again ?

19:48:42 asciilifeform: daniel mocsny aka 'danimal'

19:49:19 mircea_popescu: why isn't he here ?

19:49:31 asciilifeform: retired chemist (afaik), was a kind of mircea_popescu in the sense of playing designated torturer to a long-dead derp reservation on usenet

19:49:51 asciilifeform: vanished mostly without a trace some time in the mid '00s

19:50:02 mircea_popescu: odd.

19:50:18 mircea_popescu: "If marriage constituted more than a hypothetical risk of getting raped, I would expect women to learn to avoid it as women have learned to avoid walking around alone at night, or at least show some reluctance to get married, as women often show reluctance to put themselves into positions of vulnerability with men they just met or men they have gotten to know and decided they don't want to have sex with." << this is ac

19:50:18 asciilifeform: accidentally inspired (long after his disappearance) the 'manosphere' people

19:50:18 mircea_popescu: tually verified in practice. indian women are more than a little reluctant to get married.

19:50:46 asciilifeform: http://www.myrsky.net/danimal-archive/index.html

19:50:47 assbot: » Danimal Archive

19:50:49 asciilifeform: !s danimal

19:50:49 assbot: 2 results for 'danimal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=danimal

19:51:09 asciilifeform: ^ i linked him here a few times, long ago

19:51:18 asciilifeform: (his surviving works, rather)

19:51:45 asciilifeform: !up Diablo-D3

19:52:03 mircea_popescu: Face it, movies are eye candy trash. If people want intellectual stimulation they read books. There's nothing funnier than a pseudo-intellectual trying to get pompous about "film." << fucking hater o noes.

19:52:16 mircea_popescu: if people REALLY wanted intellectual stimulation, they wouldn't read books, they'd listen to music.

19:52:30 fluffypony: or masturbate

19:52:31 mircea_popescu: and walk around talking to other bearded men in sarafans

19:53:03 mike_c: 99.9% of the books that get read provide no more intellectual stimulation than an episode of family guy.

19:53:18 asciilifeform: mocsny wasn't a god. just an apex predator in his niche. naggum, al schwartz, mocsny, 7 or 8 other people - they each had a kingdom.

19:53:26 mircea_popescu: mike_c going by what, the nytimes lists ?

19:53:56 mike_c: empirical evidence only. what people tell me they are reading.

19:54:12 asciilifeform: mike_c: when someone makes an observation like this, usually they mean books that would still exist if they had to be hand-copied

19:54:25 mircea_popescu: i think less than 1% of the books i ever read were published after my birth.

19:54:31 asciilifeform: if ThickAsThieves is here: 'material that would make it past the mathic wall'

19:54:35 mircea_popescu: i suspect this is a good rule of thumb. and equally good in 1700 for that matter.

19:55:13 mike_c: percentage should perhaps be a smidge higher for an engineer, but i like it as a rule of thumb.

19:55:42 mircea_popescu: well you won't count looseleaf documentations as "books" would you ?

19:55:46 mircea_popescu: wtf engineer actually reads

19:55:48 jurov: certain bestseller endorsed by Governor of Canada comes to mind

19:55:49 mircea_popescu: THE BOOK.

19:56:00 asciilifeform: (for those who haven't read neal stephenson's tale 'anathem' - in it, there lived folks in specially designated reservations who were permitted only to think and study, and were let out to wander around for a few weeks once in a decade, century, or millenium - depending on what order they belonged to)

19:56:29 mircea_popescu: and if you do read the book, its prolly going to be something like knuth or whatever other exceptionally well systhematising works, which are again well in the past.

19:56:56 mike_c: stephen hawking is worth reading.

19:57:30 mike_c: i can't think of anyone else. you're right, 1% is good.

19:57:44 *: mircea_popescu roughly speaking despises all us style fiction, to the point of not actually liking most sf.

19:57:52 mircea_popescu: but that's probably just me being a pompous ass.

19:58:15 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that 1 book (mentioned above) is probably the only truly interesting piece of sf produced in usa in... 30? yrs

19:59:06 asciilifeform: one of those things that screams from every page 'this was written by an encyclopaedist who gnawed through the leather straps'

19:59:38 mircea_popescu: my problem with sf is more personal i guess. i think i have a very finnicky suspension of disbelief, makes the mayo cut extremely easy for me.

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20:00:09 mircea_popescu: (the mayonnaise cutting, for the readers that never made mayo, is this absolutely catastrophic event from hell.

20:00:24 asciilifeform: stephenson's piece is about a parallel universe where philosophy actually took off (in the sense of massive 'sharashkas' being built sometime during what corresponds to our 'roman' period)

20:00:34 mircea_popescu: here you are going nicely along, making this fluffy uniform complex sauce, when suddenly... boom. for "no fucking reason". it's bits. can't be saved.)

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20:02:16 asciilifeform: i used to real quite a bit of (mostly vintage) sf. 'anathem' mostly killed my brain receptors for this. because now nothing stands up, ends up giving me exactly the kind of indigestion mircea_popescu describes above.

20:02:20 asciilifeform: *read

20:02:58 mthreat: <mircea_popescu> holy shit now they've done it. fuckable lcd screen, seriously ? << gotta love the internet

20:03:25 asciilifeform: mthreat: the japs got there first.

20:03:27 asciilifeform: ;;google japanese sperm donation robot

20:03:28 gribble: Chinese Hospitals Introduce Hands-Free Automatic Sperm Extractor ...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3CWLCoQu7c; Sperm Donation Goes Hands-Free With the Automatic Sperm ...: http://www.themarysue.com/sperm-extractor/; Hands-Free Sperm Extractor: Zhengzhou Central Hospital In China ...: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/hands-free-sperm-donation- (1 more message)

20:03:39 asciilifeform: (or was it the chicoms?)

20:03:41 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this thing costs fiddy bux.

20:03:53 asciilifeform: trabambourghini.

20:03:55 mircea_popescu: you know ? fiddy bux. less than any conceivable bar tag.

20:04:40 mircea_popescu: allow me to belabour the point. here's "stoya". http://www.fleshlight.com/fleshlight-girls/fleshlight-toys/stoya/

20:04:42 assbot: Stoya Fleshlight | Fleshlight Girls

20:04:50 mircea_popescu: "DESTROYA Upon entry, three small rings of bumps will grasp you tightly, followed by the ultra piercing pleasure dome that will give you 360 degrees of unmatched bliss. The next chamber starts with a small row of teeth and fangs that delightfully rub and pull at you. Finally, one row of large bumps leads into a super ribbed texture that narrows the farther you get inside."

20:04:56 asciilifeform: rich man gets a tank; ordinary man - kalash; poor man - sharp stick. this is normal.

20:05:02 mircea_popescu: now tell me there's anyone in existence who's not rendered at the very least slightly curious.

20:07:52 mircea_popescu: A whole musical genre---the blues---showcases life failure. "Singing the blues" is figuratively what sexually worthless nerds do on Usenet, except it doesn't fly with women as unembellished prose. << o that's fucking bullshit.

20:08:13 mircea_popescu: the blues is the common man's understanding of the doomed human condition, has nothing to do with fucking failure.

20:08:27 punkman1: relevant http://www.realtouch.com/

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20:08:39 mircea_popescu: one doesn't get the blues because he can't figure out how to remove the delco cap.

20:09:04 mircea_popescu: one gets the blues because he worked ten years to make enough money to marry this girl that he really really loves, and she loves him, and now they're married and YET.

20:09:10 mircea_popescu: itch still unscratched.

20:09:35 asciilifeform: 'anger without enthusiasm'

20:09:51 mircea_popescu: in fact, sitting there whining about the delco cap is so unlike the blues they made a new word for it. it's emo.

20:10:56 punkman1: what's a delco cap?

20:10:57 mircea_popescu: punkman1 look at that, " You'll feel the wetness during penetration and orgasm, thanks to a lube reservoir that knows when and how much to release." they made bubblejet printing do something useful ?

20:11:07 mircea_popescu: punkman1 you know what a mechanical alternator is ?

20:11:32 mircea_popescu: http://www.gsparkplug.com/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/d/e/delco---cd1001-db301-824735-d43.jpg << this thing.

20:11:48 mircea_popescu: under it some metal blades turn in step with the engine closing contacts to fire the spark plugs.

20:11:57 mircea_popescu: pre-digital mechanical computer as it were.

20:17:31 punkman1: didn't the blues start after the slaves became without a master?

20:18:05 punkman1: guess it wasn't as great as they imagined

20:21:28 mircea_popescu: lol nah, it existed prior im pretty sure.

20:22:46 mircea_popescu: "Of course I hesitate to argue as I am doing here for fear of encouraging xtians to have even more children and raising them to believe in Noah's Flood." << ironically, that's in all likelihood an actual event.

20:23:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moscny lived in usa. 'flood' is to be understood here to be the 'fundamentalist' one, complete with mandatory drowning dinosaurs.

20:23:52 mircea_popescu: o.

20:24:29 asciilifeform: m grew up in a 'fundie' church, and stayed in for some years after he no longer believed - to pick up chicks.

20:27:56 chetty: drowning dinos? never heard that one

20:28:27 asciilifeform: chetty: this, afaik, is the 'official' position of the various u.s. protestant churches.

20:28:36 punkman1: I liked this soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsJXfkOlCLw so then I binge-watched the series, not bad

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20:36:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to what ?!

20:37:48 asciilifeform: it was explained in his posts, somewhere

20:39:33 mircea_popescu: who the fuck picks up chicks in weirdo usxtian church

20:39:55 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> under it some metal blades turn in step with the engine closing contacts to fire the spark plugs. << Distributor cap

20:39:56 mircea_popescu: what, cause the teenagers there are really really frustrated ?

20:39:59 asciilifeform: the fellow who grows up there. until escapes.

20:40:18 mircea_popescu: i guess. where was this ?

20:40:24 asciilifeform: ohio, i think.

20:41:38 mircea_popescu: i guess i could see that.

20:42:22 chetty: A French judge has ruled against a blogger because her scathing restaurant review was too prominent in Google search results

20:43:32 mircea_popescu: ahaha this is rich, because succession : "Social skills will decline markedly after the advent of sex robots, much like the way electronic calculators degraded arithmetic skills." "People often cope with an unsolvable problem by convincing themselves that somehow there is some purpose or need for the problem. Like it builds character or something. But when technology eliminates a problem, people soon forget about all t

20:43:32 mircea_popescu: he past headgames people had to play to cope with the problem. And nobody misses the supposed "benefits" of the problem they once dreamed up excuses for."

20:43:37 mircea_popescu: well which the fuck is it ?

20:43:49 mircea_popescu: chetty what a country...

20:44:39 lobbes: http://www.newsweek.com/report-malaysian-passenger-plane-down-ukraine-259465

20:45:10 mircea_popescu: lobbes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-07-2014#759682 i had it first :D

20:45:10 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

20:45:40 lobbes: lol, and I thought I had thoroughly searched the logs

20:45:56 BingoBoingo: I think Malaysia is just disappearing and selling these planes for BTC...

20:46:00 mircea_popescu: http://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/slicing-crosswise-vs-lengthwise-explained-in-pict << methinks buzzfeed is missing the point.

20:46:01 assbot: Slicing Crosswise Vs. Lengthwise Explained In Pictures

20:46:17 asciilifeform: the 777 was almost certainly carrying u.s. 'consultants.'

20:46:25 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sometime in 2005 they made the mistake to promise senior pilots payment "in kind"

20:46:33 asciilifeform: (normally, passenger routes avoid spots where people are shooting SAMs)

20:46:33 mircea_popescu: so now as the public retirement schemes are collapsing...

20:46:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform of course.

20:47:29 mircea_popescu: this is a rehash of that miserable rms lusitania bullshit.

20:47:38 mircea_popescu: "o the evil german submarines sunk a passenger ship kiling everyone on board

20:47:39 asciilifeform: classic example of u.s. armies scoring own goal for (somehow) good pr.

20:47:53 mircea_popescu: [which was loaded full of fulmicotton and tons of ammo, we're not saying this part])

20:47:55 asciilifeform: the 'consultants' could have trivially been delivered in some other way

20:48:09 asciilifeform: but no. load them into a passenger tub, so it can be shot.

20:48:16 mircea_popescu: the only difference here is that germany didn't have a bound border. russia does.

20:48:24 asciilifeform: see also 'tonkin bay incident' etc

20:48:29 mircea_popescu: but i guess "tactical" isn't a word anymore, and so strategy is a lost art.

20:49:46 asciilifeform: except this... is. the anglo strategy.

20:50:00 asciilifeform: 'what the beast until it bites, then shoot it'

20:50:04 asciilifeform: *whack

20:50:06 mircea_popescu: i guess england is the only major player to not have tried yet huh.

20:50:19 mircea_popescu: germany and france are satisfied.

20:50:50 asciilifeform: fdr on japan, etc

20:51:12 asciilifeform: just how 'democracy' rolls.

20:52:51 BingoBoingo: I suppose this is when I start digging expedient backyard shelter...

20:53:47 chetty: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/17/overstock-ceo-patrick-byrnes-warning-america-approaching-the-place-where-republics-go-to-die/

20:53:48 assbot: Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne’s Warning: America Approaching the Place ‘Where Republics Go to Die’ | Video | TheBlaze.com

20:54:13 mircea_popescu: guy has a point.

20:54:28 asciilifeform: the interesting part is that we can infer that the organization fielding the 'consultants' (now cremated) is considered 'safe'

20:54:36 asciilifeform: that is, will not take matters into own hands in response.

20:55:01 chetty: well he is wrong about wall street controling gubermint, actually they are the same thing

20:55:05 asciilifeform: (by, say, making the folks who sent their men to a certain death answer for it)

20:55:19 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/HistoricalPics/status/489841328176762880

20:55:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how are they gonna do that ?

20:55:59 mircea_popescu: any "consultants" organisation of a decent size can fill an airplane with people who are costing it more than they're worth.

20:56:04 mircea_popescu: win-win, as they say.

20:56:27 asciilifeform: shtrafbat.

20:56:48 mircea_popescu: at some point cca 2012 any consultant with anything inside the skull started answering the "o hey, we want to promote you" with "o yeah ? who else is going ?"

20:57:28 asciilifeform: then we can infer that: either org is 'safe' (gelded) or the folks in command knew for a fact where the plane would end.

20:57:36 mircea_popescu: "in the interest of santa clause we can't say" "sorry, not interesed."

20:59:12 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only thing we can infer is that the whole org is made out of people motivated through income, which means it's not really a threat to anyone (other than perhaps its employer)

21:00:04 BingoBoingo: %t

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21:04:20 jurov: asciilifeform getting rid of people this way?

21:04:46 jurov: perhps you're among people whose your suspension of disbelief utterly fails toward self

21:05:13 mircea_popescu: jurov you don't see it ?

21:05:27 asciilifeform: jurov: probably not the main purpose. see 'uss maddox' and 'uss maine'.

21:05:34 jurov: what's there to see?

21:06:02 mircea_popescu: ok, let me put this to you. average us middle manager can't fuck his employees, because he's affraid of scandal. of the employees, at least a few would be open to being fucked

21:06:07 mircea_popescu: out of sheer boredom if nothing else.

21:06:20 mircea_popescu: suppose this manger now goes to work for me, and i'm "whatever, fuck them all in chains for all i care."

21:06:33 mircea_popescu: you're telling me he's not going to do it, becase "it's not done" or something ?

21:06:34 jurov: so he bribes the pilot instead?

21:06:44 mircea_popescu: the pilot doesn't have to know.

21:07:05 asciilifeform: jurov: what's there to see << passenger plane deliberately flown over SAM fire zone. shot. 'oh noez eeevil rebels!'

21:07:27 jurov: how does the pilot not know?

21:07:36 jurov: where he's flying over?

21:07:41 mircea_popescu: "mr jurov, we have a very important mission for you. it's to fly here : X"

21:08:01 mircea_popescu: (we're giving the people over at X your radio id, and they'll shoot you down. omitting to mention this part.)

21:08:46 jurov: that's the stupid part and risky as hell. if the pilot had half a clue, he'd leak something

21:08:49 chetty: and while everyone is watching this Israel is sending troops into Gaza

21:09:07 jurov: if that was military plane, okay, happens all the time

21:09:21 jurov: but relying whole plot on on civilian pilot???

21:09:29 mircea_popescu: jurov people take unreasonable risks as part of their employment ALL THE TIME

21:09:36 mircea_popescu: especially if the employers represent them as "standard"

21:09:48 asciilifeform: for one thing, we have no idea who piloted. another - pilots can also have problems.

21:10:00 mircea_popescu: this is why there has to be a fucking board of employment in th first place, otherwise people would happily STILL be sucking down phosphorus

21:10:05 mircea_popescu: and licking radon paint.

21:10:48 jurov: bullshit

21:11:15 mircea_popescu: not so.

21:11:29 mircea_popescu: look into the story of "undark"

21:11:42 jurov: tell me any other example where *civilians* were used in sucha way

21:12:00 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2010/corporatiile-si-responsabilitatea/ << pretty good write-up, really.

21:12:01 assbot: Corporatiile si responsabilitatea pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

21:12:04 mircea_popescu: i'll have to have it translated.

21:12:09 asciilifeform: jurov: rms lusitania.

21:12:55 mircea_popescu: http://www.damninteresting.com/undark-and-the-radium-girls/ << english summary.

21:12:56 assbot: Undark and the Radium Girls Damn Interesting

21:14:10 jurov: they had no clue that radium is poisonous, how can you compare that with sending pilot into war zone which everyone is avoiding?

21:14:16 mircea_popescu: ....

21:14:18 asciilifeform: interestingly, british gov. still forbids any serious exploration of the lusitania wreck.

21:14:28 mircea_popescu: jurov they had about the same clue.

21:14:40 mircea_popescu: the only reason that is notable is because the radium jaw is really just phosphorus jaw.

21:14:50 mircea_popescu: do you know what it took to move from white to red ?

21:15:08 mircea_popescu: ;;google phossy jaw

21:15:08 gribble: Phossy jaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phossy_jaw; Uncovering the cause of "phossy jaw" Circa 1858 to 1906: oral and ...: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18940506; 10 Deadliest Occupational Diseases in History: http://www.humanresourcesmba.net/10-deadliest-occupational-diseases-in-history/

21:18:16 chetty: deliberate medical experiments are a good example of putting civillians in danger

21:30:09 mircea_popescu: mike_c: this feels the same as "bitbet is a scam" flamewars: "[FCC levies huge fine on Stern] << it does huh.

21:30:27 mike_c: in the sense that there is no such thing as bad publicity

21:31:09 mircea_popescu: i think maybe what's at work here is, that "there's no such thing as deliberate character assasination when the people trying to do it are a relatively irrelevant, powerless and uninfluential minority".

21:32:31 mike_c: yeah, loud criticism from an irrelevant source accidentally boosts awareness of its target.

21:32:54 mircea_popescu: pretty much.

21:33:11 mircea_popescu: extra points when the message doesn't even make sense in a way readily apparent to the intended demo.

21:33:33 mircea_popescu: like fcc claiming "lulz are bad mkay" or reddit claiming "people not doing what i think are evil mkay"

21:36:32 mircea_popescu: mthreat omfg the entire building smells of pizza. MY pizza. brb.

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21:45:10 BingoBoingo: http://gawker.com/snowden-nsa-workers-routinely-share-your-nude-photos-1606762730

21:45:11 assbot: Snowden: NSA Workers Routinely Share Your Nude Photos

21:45:32 BingoBoingo: http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/17/edward-snowden-video-interview

21:45:32 assbot: Edward Snowden: 'If I end up in chains in Guantnamo I can live with that' - video interview | World news | theguardian.com

21:47:49 BingoBoingo: So... NSA has all the n00ds

21:55:15 chetty: time to raid NSA for keeping child pron?

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21:56:09 BingoBoingo: !b 2

21:59:09 dub: BingoBoingo: but.. if you do nothign wrong theres nothign to hide!!1

22:02:18 BingoBoingo: If I've done nothing wrong I have everything to hide, because I wouldn't be cool!!!

22:16:46 mircea_popescu: lol

22:16:48 mthreat: mircea_popescu: mmmmmm pizza

22:26:49 dub: so.. mh17 false flag op, 'murican bitbet on how long till muricans deploy?

22:26:54 dub: er

22:27:00 dub: extra murican there

22:28:47 mircea_popescu: yeah, how you gonna resolve it.

22:31:44 mircea_popescu: http://wcdn01.sexgangsters.com/static/hero/74_78_72_76_75.png << if anyone's curious, this is my current avatar.

22:39:20 assbot: BayAreaCoins +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

22:39:52 BigBitz: mircea_popescu; you're one crazy man.

22:40:02 mircea_popescu: what now !?

22:40:06 mircea_popescu: !up BayAreaCoins

22:40:29 mircea_popescu: o o lol.

22:40:42 BayAreaCoins: (just fucking off with WoT stuff, but ty sir)

22:49:35 BingoBoingo: !up Peach

22:49:48 BayAreaCoins: Olah peach, so boobies??

22:49:52 BayAreaCoins: :P

22:50:04 Peach: lol

22:50:25 Peach: How much is offered?

22:50:31 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu is the dude to talk to if they are still offering that.

22:50:53 mircea_popescu: lol what worked.

22:51:06 BingoBoingo: !up Peach

22:51:23 BingoBoingo: Oh noes netslips

22:51:53 mircea_popescu: webirc split huh.

22:52:17 Peach: what are they asking for?

22:52:37 Peach: I don't like this, just-dice is easier to read.

22:53:09 BayAreaCoins: Peach ok so the deal was last time i was in here. For .1 you get a string of letters n numbers. Send a pic of boobs with that and the letters/number = free .1btc.

22:53:44 Peach: I would do it with it covering up my nipples but I'm not showing my boobs for .1 Bay

22:53:59 mircea_popescu: Peach http://fraudsters.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ read that.

22:54:00 assbot: I’ll pay for your tits pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:54:49 Peach: I'm not showing full on boobs for .1btc

22:55:15 Peach: if I can cover up my nipples I will hold a sign or whatever, but not nudes.

22:56:22 BingoBoingo: %d

22:56:24 dub: mircea_popescu: I just checked #bitcoin-camwhores, its avail

22:56:30 Peach: I made a dance video I will share for .1btv ;)

22:57:37 BigBitz: wait...

22:57:40 BigBitz: what...

22:57:42 BigBitz: nipples.

22:57:44 BigBitz: nudes.

22:58:00 *: BigBitz throws money at screen.

22:58:06 BayAreaCoins: lol

22:58:27 Peach: would have to be way more than .1 for nudes lol

22:58:38 BigBitz: Heh.

22:58:52 BingoBoingo: ;;google they really are buttcoins nao

22:58:52 gribble: They really are Buttcoins nao pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/; Perfect money corrupts absolutely pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea ...: http://fraudsters.com/perfect-money-corrupts-absolutely; Bitcoin pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/category/bitcoin/

22:58:54 BayAreaCoins: O well I tried! Sry to waste your time peaches <3

22:59:49 BigBitz: is Peach a camwhore?

22:59:52 BayAreaCoins: Negative

23:00:00 BayAreaCoins: Just-dice mod who is actually pretty cute

23:00:00 BigBitz: but you're trying to pimp her?

23:00:04 BayAreaCoins: Um no

23:00:12 BayAreaCoins: I just like tits

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23:00:19 BigBitz: I am an avid fan of tits.

23:00:37 BayAreaCoins: Me too my dude me too :D Figure she makes .1 and we see tits... win win

23:00:42 mircea_popescu: !down Peach

23:00:45 mircea_popescu: why do people think there's something to negotiate is entirely beyond me.

23:00:55 mircea_popescu: dub so get it.

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23:00:56 BingoBoingo: !b 3

23:00:57 mircea_popescu: motherfucker what is wrong with assbot now.

23:00:59 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla whay assbot not werk.

23:01:01 mircea_popescu: halelujah.

23:01:10 kakobrekla: m?

23:01:18 mircea_popescu: well it took meanwhile

23:01:24 mircea_popescu: the !down peach is about 50 lines up.

23:02:15 kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/15/ra/4TNIsTqN/irc.png

23:02:18 kakobrekla: move to a faster country.

23:03:09 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla omg hater on lulzgertina. it was prolly freenode being all slow!

23:04:07 kakobrekla: your net is slow slow i still didnt get your lulzgertina line.

23:04:13 mircea_popescu: hahah

23:05:12 BingoBoingo: !up nubbins`

23:06:17 BigBitz: !down mircea_popescu

23:06:21 BigBitz: Nice.

23:06:28 BigBitz: Bot knows mircea_popescu is the MASTAH.

23:07:17 BigBitz: !down mircea_popescu

23:07:20 BigBitz: NICE.

23:07:22 BigBitz: :)

23:08:42 mircea_popescu: !down BigBitz

23:08:46 mircea_popescu: it dun work on l2 ppls.

23:09:04 BayAreaCoins: !down bayareacoins

23:09:14 mircea_popescu: lmao

23:09:17 BigBitz: :)

23:09:25 BigBitz: you can't down me, mircea_popescu?

23:09:27 BingoBoingo: sha-256 d5c959a536771ac215bc678d788f41b39c5000223e653881d3892531031116c2

23:09:45 mircea_popescu: BigBitz not through this interface anyway.

23:09:54 BigBitz: :)

23:10:05 BingoBoingo: !up BayAreaCoins

23:10:12 BayAreaCoins: :P thanks

23:10:18 BigBitz: !down BayAreaCoins

23:10:19 BingoBoingo: BayAreaCoins: Now you know the hazards of going down on yourself

23:10:27 mircea_popescu: BayAreaCoins so if this chick isn't a camwhore why exactly would you be pestering her.

23:10:32 BigBitz: :)

23:10:32 BingoBoingo: !up BayAreaCoins

23:10:41 BigBitz: ( Sorry. I'll stop now. I'm going )

23:11:02 BingoBoingo: !up moiety_

23:11:30 BayAreaCoins: mircea_popescu um cause you got to start somewhere. She was interested. She had made a dancing video in Just-dice and LiKaShing tipped her like 20btc.. I didnt figure she would be down, but close mouths don't get fed (titties in this case. She had nice tits it appeared)

23:11:51 BayAreaCoins: Worth a shot.

23:12:18 mircea_popescu: i guess.

23:12:40 mircea_popescu: worst angle a girl could possibly present herself if she's not actually a pro. simply comes off as a whiny entitled pointless bitch.

23:13:39 BingoBoingo: Maybe she just hashes her nipples to make private keys?

23:16:12 BayAreaCoins: I dunno she had nice tits in her dancing vid, but not over .1btc nice tits imo. O well shrug off that fail and keep on keeping on. More tits in the world :)

23:28:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/heres-a-great-idea-for-a-film/

23:31:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 290 @ 0.0027 = 0.783 BTC [-]

23:44:35 cazalla: indiancandy1: malaysia airlines is running a special if you still need a ticket

23:49:22 kakobrekla: only seven buttcoins?

23:49:36 kakobrekla: but the flight is in sex weeks.

23:56:26 mircea_popescu: "I've noticed the same weird principle on soc.singles: the more a man needs a virtual woman, the more threatened he is by the very concept. Why is that? [Rhetorical.]" << for the exact same reason poor people understand better than rich people that they can't afford substitutes.