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00:18:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00072094 = 14.8874 BTC [-]

00:31:02 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC worth over $5000 before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/716/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 46.26359775 BTC. Current weight: 34,220.

00:53:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00072094 = 18.0235 BTC [-] {2}

00:58:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6411 @ 0.00072043 = 4.6187 BTC [-]

01:41:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18489 @ 0.00072028 = 13.3173 BTC [-] {2}

01:45:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18346 @ 0.00072095 = 13.2265 BTC [+] {2}

02:39:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4125 @ 0.0007198 = 2.9692 BTC [-]

03:19:25 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 http://ispace.co.uk/ << any way to add these ppls ? << sure no prob.

03:19:28 assbot: iSpace Mining Pools

03:44:39 mod6: %ispace

03:44:51 atcbot: [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 3.64 TH/s

03:46:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6448 @ 0.0007198 = 4.6413 BTC [-]

03:47:22 mod6: ;;later tell moiety I have some changes to the wiki you might be able to help me with. Ping me when you get a chance. Thanks!

03:47:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

03:55:33 mod6: ;;rate moiety 1 Helped me with the atcbot section in the bitcoin-assets wiki.

03:55:34 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user moiety has been recorded.

03:58:45 decimation: ;;rate asciilifeform 2 engineer

03:58:45 gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.

03:59:05 decimation: stupid netsplits

04:00:04 decimation: ;;rate asciilifeform 2 engineer

04:00:05 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user asciilifeform has changed from 2 to 2.

04:02:38 ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/d9VTCQP.jpg

04:13:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00071946 = 10.9358 BTC [-] {2}

04:18:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29499999 = 0.59 BTC [+]

04:19:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.295 = 0.59 BTC [+]

04:26:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11058 @ 0.00071861 = 7.9464 BTC [-] {2}

04:55:50 ben_vulpes: ;;isitdown graphviz.org

04:55:53 gribble: graphviz.org is down

04:59:31 mircea_popescu: mod6 but in the %p ?

04:59:31 mircea_popescu: %p

05:00:06 atcbot: No data returned from PityThePool.com

05:00:06 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.70 TH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.23 TH/s

05:01:02 mircea_popescu: a cool.

05:01:03 mircea_popescu: %d

05:01:05 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 148413.25 in 1956 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -92.10

05:03:48 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

05:03:50 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.36, Best ask: 516.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 516.4, 24 hour volume: 12075.74130533, 24 hour low: 485.0, 24 hour high: 529.8, 24 hour vwap: 509.517568638

05:07:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.00071815 = 22.6576 BTC [-] {3}

05:58:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6327 @ 0.0007198 = 4.5542 BTC [+]

06:03:40 ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFYy3oEnzVg

06:03:40 assbot: Silicon Valley Dick Scene - YouTube

06:11:03 RagnarDanneskjol: classic - pee your pants funny. the series totally redeemed itself with that one scene

06:31:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00072193 = 18.1565 BTC [+] {3}

07:17:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.2846411 = 7.116 BTC [-] {4}

07:20:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00072011 = 8.7133 BTC [-]

07:27:09 punkman: hmm one of my monitors seems to have acquired a blue tint overnight

07:33:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21091 @ 0.00072138 = 15.2146 BTC [+] {2}

07:37:54 RagnarDanneskjol: happened to me before - think I had to reset colors on graphx card. first try unplugging or wiggling around cables

07:40:44 punkman: Ragnar, tried that, nothing. itonly one one side of the monitor though.

07:41:12 punkman: feels like the backlight is fucked there

07:43:04 xmj: fluffypony: ping?

07:43:13 fluffypony: I'm here

07:43:53 RagnarDanneskjol: ahh if its just one side, you may have hardware issue

07:51:05 RagnarDanneskjol: http://codesuppository.blogspot.com/2013/07/work-in-progress-on-bitcoin-blockchain.html

07:51:05 assbot: John Ratcliff's Code Suppository: Work in progress on Bitcoin blockchain parser

07:55:59 punkman: hitting it didnt't work :/

07:58:09 jurov: no lawgs?

07:59:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2850008 = 3.135 BTC [+] {3}

08:20:44 RagnarDanneskjol: http://thelastbastille.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/against-intellectual-property/

08:20:45 assbot: Against Intellectual Property? | The Last Bastille

08:28:05 punkman: ok so I power cycle the thing repeatedly, blue tint goes away, then I move the mouse and it comes back

08:28:18 punkman: I got no fuckin clue here

08:29:23 RagnarDanneskjol: oh thats unusual

08:29:52 RagnarDanneskjol: what computer/card?

08:31:01 punkman: I miss that degauss button

08:31:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.283 = 0.849 BTC [-]

08:37:15 kdomanski: punkman: ever seen the speakers on a computer give a creaking noise when you move the mouse? that's my weird PC problem

08:38:17 punkman: kdomanski: I've had mouse/wifi/etc be audible. Had to move the speakers to different outlet.

08:38:52 kdomanski: outlet as in power outlet? that helped?

08:39:46 punkman: kdomanski: yep

08:46:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14258 @ 0.00072011 = 10.2673 BTC [-]

08:48:59 []bot: Bet placed: 2.43267 BTC for Yes on "Difficulty over 21Bn by Summer's end 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/877/ Odds: 90(Y):10(N) by coin, 89(Y):11(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.14355674 BTC. Current weight: 9,398.

08:56:56 RagnarDanneskjol: http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2011/07/the-gell-mann-amnesia-effect.html

08:56:57 assbot: The Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect

09:58:49 ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: to the death of IP

09:59:24 RagnarDanneskjol: i'll drink to that

10:01:28 ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: "My machine parses this entire data set in roughly 95 seconds." i took a crack at a big-boy-pants parser one time, made all the wrong decisions, hated life. good to see some progress made on the front.

10:02:20 ben_vulpes: "All I did was load the blocks from disk into memory; which wasn't really accomplishing much."

10:03:03 RagnarDanneskjol: yes, i've been following that one for a while, seems to be the most useful implementation

10:03:23 RagnarDanneskjol: that guy's a character

10:04:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17106 @ 0.00071766 = 12.2763 BTC [-] {2}

10:04:59 ben_vulpes: lol oh a whole year ago

10:09:31 ben_vulpes: http://codesuppository.blogspot.com/2014/04/how-to-play-bitcoin-brainwallet.html << and on the topic of scavenger hunts

10:09:32 assbot: John Ratcliff's Code Suppository: How to Play a Bitcoin BrainWallet Scavenger Game

10:10:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00071952 = 2.7342 BTC [+]

10:14:52 ben_vulpes: http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinpuzzles/ << dead

10:14:52 assbot: The place for all Bitcoin related puzzles!

10:15:16 RagnarDanneskjol: yea, I thought I posted that and a bunch of related content earlier today when they were discussing, then come to realize I had no voice, was talking to myself. Carried on chatting with myself for about 45 mins until I realized noone could hear me

10:15:19 ben_vulpes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xv8T1m24q7XAWYudXxzMGODQakI75SNPmE6_iiJssjg/edit << and this is not terribly inspired

10:15:20 assbot: Trivia Question Scavenger Hunt Design Document - Google Docs

10:15:27 ben_vulpes: bahaha

10:15:37 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot RagnarDanneskjol

10:15:37 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask RagnarDanneskjol!~ragnardan@75-23-231-33.lightspeed.lgngca.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user RagnarDanneskjol: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=RagnarDanneskjol | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=RagnarDanneskjol | Rated since: Thu Jun 26 20:35:44 2014

10:15:57 ben_vulpes: your client doesn't tell you when you're muted?

10:16:07 RagnarDanneskjol: it does, but I'm blind

10:16:11 RagnarDanneskjol: mostly

10:19:06 ben_vulpes: literally?

10:19:13 RagnarDanneskjol: yes

10:19:15 ben_vulpes: http://38.media.tumblr.com/bd2919040da73582382a150d7cb43efc/tumblr_n9jbp2pzbp1qz66gdo3_r1_1280.jpg << such moon

10:19:23 RagnarDanneskjol: I drive, but prolly shouldn't

10:19:30 ben_vulpes: o.O

10:20:11 RagnarDanneskjol: I've been getting Bandwidth Limit Exceeded when I try to read your blog lately fyi

10:20:18 ben_vulpes: yeah, been working on other stuff.

10:20:21 RagnarDanneskjol: k

10:20:26 ben_vulpes: i honestly dont even know what that domain's pointed at.

10:20:32 RagnarDanneskjol: ha

10:21:48 ben_vulpes: stupid ipxcore dns mgmt

10:23:17 ben_vulpes: maybe i'll get to it this week

10:23:20 ben_vulpes: maybe not

10:23:24 ben_vulpes: but thanks for the heads up

10:23:51 RagnarDanneskjol: sure

10:35:02 []bot: Bet placed: 1.11111111 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/871/ Odds: 34(Y):66(N) by coin, 37(Y):63(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.35780981 BTC. Current weight: 60,964.

10:48:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00071703 = 10.0384 BTC [-]

11:51:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19607 @ 0.00071589 = 14.0365 BTC [-] {4}

12:23:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00071448 = 5.18 BTC [-] {2}

12:43:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11336 @ 0.00071853 = 8.1453 BTC [+]

12:50:02 assbot: xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

12:51:34 RagnarDanneskjol: !up xanthyos

13:07:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00071433 = 7.429 BTC [-] {2}

14:34:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28099991 = 0.843 BTC [+]

14:35:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28099996 = 0.562 BTC [+] {2}

14:46:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00279775 = 0.5596 BTC [+]

15:04:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1200 @ 0.0014 = 1.68 BTC [-]

15:05:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00071409 = 0.5356 BTC [-]

15:30:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00071286 = 4.5623 BTC [-]

15:57:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 271 @ 0.00600303 = 1.6268 BTC [-] {6}

15:58:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.2820001 = 1.692 BTC [+]

15:59:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 8.61341012 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 749 satoshi per share

16:04:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76810256 BTC to 13`874 shares, 12744 satoshi per share

16:35:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47303 @ 0.00071331 = 33.7417 BTC [+]

16:47:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 38 @ 0.02523161 = 0.9588 BTC [-]

17:16:38 punkman: "Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a more grudging way, have said to people "I offer you a good time," Hitler has said to them “I offer you struggle, danger and death,” and flings itself at his feet. Perhaps later on they will get sick of it and change their minds, as at the end of the last war."

17:16:49 punkman: "After a few years of slaughter and starvation "Greatest happiness of the greatest number" is a good slogan, but at this moment “Better an end with horror than a horror without end” is a winner."

17:17:29 punkman: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzmBhYakPbYtT3k5cDd4Sm1SRUE/view

17:17:30 assbot: Review Of "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler [March 1940] George Orwell - Google Drive

17:17:56 ben_vulpes: Imagine reading about a Russian element on Wikipedia, and at the end there’s this paragraph saying “By the way, this element inverts gravity and has to be tied to the ground to prevent it from falling upwards”. An anxiolytic stimulant is really really cool. But somehow generations of American psychopharmacologists must have read about bromantane and thought “No, I don’t think I’ll pay any more attention to that.” <<

17:17:56 ben_vulpes: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/16/an-iron-curtain-has-descended-upon-psychopharmacology/

17:17:57 assbot: An Iron Curtain Has Descended Upon Psychopharmacology | Slate Star Codex

17:18:08 ben_vulpes: errybody reading hacker news

17:20:10 ben_vulpes: http://awakebrain.com/

17:20:11 assbot: Awakebrain.com Nootropic Cognitive & Performance Enhancement Products

17:20:33 ben_vulpes: a veritable cornucopia of mysterious russian brain chemical!

17:44:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.2985981 = 2.986 BTC [+] {2}

18:22:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.283 = 0.566 BTC [-]

18:48:20 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ah, i see. ask the guy to come over ?

18:48:25 mircea_popescu: we gotta sort this pool thing somehows.

18:48:52 BingoBoingo: I sent an email yesterday, suppose I might send another

18:49:00 mircea_popescu: nah

18:50:12 mircea_popescu: !up putler

18:54:26 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re gpg clunk (not to be confused with pgp issues) : "MolokoDeck : for some reason gpg returns the useful info about the status of a signature verify via the error channel."

18:54:34 mircea_popescu: that "some reason" being rms being a fucktard.

18:56:37 BingoBoingo: %d

18:56:39 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 163016.03 in 1942 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -91.32

18:58:13 BingoBoingo: %p

18:58:59 atcbot: No data returned from PityThePool.com

18:59:00 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.56 TH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.39 TH/s

18:59:15 BingoBoingo: This is an amazing thing about -assets, you raise awareness to a problem with one of the pet jokes, and things get done

18:59:15 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

19:03:10 mircea_popescu: gotta keep the pets fed.

19:03:54 thestringpuller: it is kinda weird how GPG returns useful information via stderr

19:04:06 thestringpuller: even the return code...

19:04:14 mircea_popescu: but it's more spyful that way!!!

19:08:24 mircea_popescu: !up nagzter

19:08:36 nagzter: hey mircea_popescu

19:08:41 mircea_popescu: hey there.

19:08:45 nagzter: 'sup

19:09:19 mircea_popescu: i have nfi yet.

19:10:27 mircea_popescu: how's the what was it...

19:10:30 mircea_popescu: some altcoin ?

19:15:27 BingoBoingo: %t

19:15:28 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 172 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 133k High: 188 Low: 170 VWAP: 180

19:17:02 mircea_popescu: computer bedtime.

19:21:49 mircea_popescu: !up OX3

19:29:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 64 @ 0.01371 = 0.8774 BTC [-]

19:33:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 38 @ 0.02523161 = 0.9588 BTC [-]

19:52:49 chetty: http://news.yahoo.com/lashes-saudi-woman-called-morality-police-liars-newspaper-120113841.html;_ylt=AwrBJR48zfBTV3MA0hXQtDMD

19:52:51 assbot: Lashes for Saudi woman who called morality police liars: newspaper - Yahoo News

20:04:59 BingoBoingo: %p

20:05:32 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.10 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 0.00 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 5.13 TH/s

20:06:05 BingoBoingo: %tslb

20:06:06 atcbot: 4 hours 4 minutes and 57 seconds

20:07:30 kakobrekla: lolk

20:08:33 mircea_popescu: anyone care to suggest a typically black female name ?

20:11:59 mthreat: laquisha

20:12:26 mthreat: the previous owner of my black 350z told me he had named the car laquisha, "his black mistress"

20:13:25 *: mthreat guesses this is for a blog post

20:20:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21341 @ 0.00071269 = 15.2095 BTC [-] {2}

20:27:53 oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/buttocks/

20:27:53 assbot: Perfect buttocks now!

20:28:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20476 @ 0.00071331 = 14.6057 BTC [+]

21:10:26 mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

21:10:31 gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 38 seconds

21:28:31 TheNewDeal: any audio electronics experts in the crowd?

22:00:32 mircea_popescu: 7k words and not yet done, jesus god this article hates me.

22:02:16 ben_vulpes: http://success.shithouse.tv/

22:02:29 assbot: X-Rob +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

22:03:33 mircea_popescu: !up X-Rob

22:03:39 mircea_popescu: now how the hell does that work.

22:03:44 TheNewDeal: the one you're writing now?

22:03:44 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot x-rob

22:03:45 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user x-rob: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=x-rob | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=x-rob | Rated since: Mon May 16 20:47:55 2011

22:03:51 X-Rob: I'm xrobau

22:03:55 X-Rob: ;;ident

22:03:55 gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'X-Rob', with hostmask 'X-Rob!sid14615@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofnkmqlfshhqtblr', is identified as user 'xrobau', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1F1pPNy6X86rUSKLqZAdsa7dSMoRy4KobG

22:04:15 mircea_popescu: ;;rated x-rob

22:04:15 gribble: You rated user x-rob on Sat Aug 16 18:49:40 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: splendid work on that derpcoin. https://bitcointa.lk/threads/unattanium-broken-by-design.351020/ so much lol..

22:04:21 mircea_popescu: ;;rated xrobau

22:04:22 gribble: You have not yet rated user xrobau

22:04:33 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla whay did assbot just record a fail ?

22:04:57 X-Rob: Anyway, all I was sayin was what I messaged you - I saw you mention GPG, and I wrote an abstraction layer for it.

22:04:59 X-Rob: http://git.freepbx.org/projects/FREEPBX/repos/framework/browse/amp_conf/htdocs/admin/libraries/BMO/GPG.class.php?at=refs%2Fheads%2Frelease%2F12.0

22:05:01 assbot: Source of GPG.class.php - framework - FreePBX GIT

22:05:14 X-Rob: It's stupid, but it's stupid in well defined ways

22:05:21 mircea_popescu: by now we're two in the hole

22:05:28 mircea_popescu: gpg started life as exactly this.

22:05:44 mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo you here ?

22:06:30 X-Rob: specifically, line 282 is the function that captures that information

22:07:06 X-Rob: There /are/ reasons for it being stupid - and the reasons as ALWAYS 'backwards compatibility'.

22:07:07 mircea_popescu: i c.

22:07:15 X-Rob: s/as/are/

22:07:30 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal yeah

22:08:30 X-Rob: re x-rob/xrobau in gribble - I lost the GPG key for 'x-rob', and haven't really had the enthusiasm to try to get the account deleted so I can recreate it.

22:08:47 X-Rob: and I'm xrobau everywhere APART from IRC, so it hasn't bothered me that much

22:08:52 mircea_popescu: oh so you're not logged as x-rob ?

22:08:57 X-Rob: ;;ident

22:08:57 gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'X-Rob', with hostmask 'X-Rob!sid14615@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofnkmqlfshhqtblr', is identified as user 'xrobau', with GPG key id None, key fingerprint None, and bitcoin address 1F1pPNy6X86rUSKLqZAdsa7dSMoRy4KobG

22:09:00 X-Rob: ^^^ xrobau

22:09:04 mircea_popescu: o i c.

22:09:09 mircea_popescu: ;;rated x-rob

22:09:09 gribble: You rated user x-rob on Sat Aug 16 18:49:40 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: splendid work on that derpcoin. https://bitcointa.lk/threads/unattanium-broken-by-design.351020/ so much lol..

22:09:14 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate x-rob

22:09:15 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for x-rob.

22:09:26 mircea_popescu: ;;rate xrobau 1 splendid work on that derpcoin. https://bitcointa.lk/threads/unattanium-broken-by-design.351020/ so much lol...

22:09:26 assbot: Unattanium: Broken by design. | Bitcointa.lk

22:09:28 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user xrobau has been recorded.

22:09:30 mircea_popescu: NOW it'll work.

22:09:32 X-Rob: Thanks 8)

22:09:39 mircea_popescu: nm kakobrekla, problem was between user and CHAIR

22:10:17 mircea_popescu: from #eulora : "chetty> so all these people pounding on server for days and 1 crash (mod6 tried to beat up a rock and combat is not something we have done anythng with)."

22:10:23 mircea_popescu: WHY SO VIOLENT MOD6!

22:11:34 X-Rob: mircea_popescu: anyway, tl;dr: GPG is broken at first look, but it's not really.

22:11:57 mircea_popescu: i agree.

22:12:15 mircea_popescu: but if you want to write a piece about how bad it is, why not make it plausible at least was the question.

22:12:26 X-Rob: heh

22:13:30 X-Rob: Anyway, that code I pasted is AGPL3, but I'm thinking I may re-publish it as MIT or something, as it's hard for people to do GPG correctly without knowing a pile of behind the scenes stuff

22:14:44 mircea_popescu: i don't even recall what afero says

22:18:31 X-Rob: mircea_popescu: AGPL is just GPL, with the addition of 'if you provide ACCESS to the code, you have to release it.'

22:18:58 mircea_popescu: ah

22:19:15 mircea_popescu: ah i recall, the thing they did to ruin the possibility of os game servers.

22:19:24 mircea_popescu: stupidest idea ever.

22:20:01 X-Rob: I use it because people take our open source webapp, make piles of modifications, and then don't give the changes back

22:20:48 mircea_popescu: which webapp is that ?

22:23:32 X-Rob: http://git.freepbx.org/projects/FREEPBX/repos/framework/browse/amp_conf/htdocs/admin/libraries/BMO/GPG.class.php?at=refs%2Fheads%2Frelease%2F12.0

22:23:33 assbot: Source of GPG.class.php - framework - FreePBX GIT

22:23:41 X-Rob: I'll give you one guess 8)

22:28:10 mircea_popescu: freepbx.org ?

22:28:57 X-Rob: Well, yes, FreePBX

22:31:33 mircea_popescu: this is pretty cool and something long entertained here. i suspect decimation's gonna be all over you, among others :D

22:31:58 mircea_popescu: the current thinking is more like "if we need freepbx we'll go to ham radio!!!"

22:32:00 mircea_popescu: !s ham radio

22:32:01 assbot: 10 results for 'ham radio' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ham+radio

22:37:03 X-Rob: I used to be an amateur radio operator, a long time ago. VK2JGY. Often hanging aroud on 6 meters (50MHz) and 2 meters (144MHz)

22:38:27 TheNewDeal: what does that mean

22:38:39 TheNewDeal: just the channels to tune in to?

22:39:18 X-Rob: TheNewDeal: it's a range, yeah.

22:39:43 TheNewDeal: and the 6 meters refers to signal amplitude?

22:40:12 X-Rob: TheNewDeal: It's actually the wavelength. 50mhz has 6 meters between peaks

22:40:40 TheNewDeal: bah, couldn't think of the word

22:40:47 X-Rob: All good

22:40:53 X-Rob: it's not something we expect muggles to know

22:40:57 X-Rob: to steal another word

22:41:03 TheNewDeal: i'm only half muggle

22:42:00 TheNewDeal: did mech engineering schooling at the university, added in some computer science and robotics

22:42:12 X-Rob: cool

22:53:37 mircea_popescu: no, i expect anyone to know what wavelength is.

22:58:07 RagnarDanneskjol: https://github.com/freepbx

22:58:08 assbot: FreePBX GitHub

23:02:06 TheNewDeal: i just couldn't think of the word

23:03:29 TheNewDeal: or perhaps I just didn't understand what wavelength was

23:05:54 mircea_popescu: FEELBAD.GIF!

23:07:11 X-Rob: RagnarDanneskjol: we clone our internal stash to github, because we're nice.

23:07:17 danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, http://danielpbarron.com/dr.html updated

23:07:17 assbot: Derp Report

23:08:00 RagnarDanneskjol: cool

23:08:38 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron gimme a moment to finish this monster and be right with you.

23:08:58 danielpbarron: i've also been keeping track of it on twitter http://twitter.com/hashtag/DerpReport

23:09:00 assbot: Twitter / Suche - #DerpReport

23:13:41 cazalla: mircea_popescu, here are mine https://www.dropbox.com/s/eu4vcgv706cgr6l/cazalla_forum_posts.html apologies for dropbox link, i was going to setup my own site but apache2 has changed since last time i used it and i haven't figured it out yet

23:13:42 assbot: Dropbox - cazalla_forum_posts.html

23:14:52 cazalla: danielpbarron, i borrowed your html, hope that's ok

23:15:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00071254 = 4.774 BTC [-]

23:16:21 danielpbarron: i think it's too simple for me to lay any claim

23:17:05 assbot: xanthyos +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

23:17:13 ThickAsThieves: sup folks

23:17:24 mircea_popescu: http://oglaf.com/fountain-of-girl/

23:17:25 assbot: Fountain of Girl

23:17:27 mircea_popescu: !up xanthyos

23:17:35 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves alt nearly died!

23:17:53 xanthyos: also danielpbarron you don't believe in intellectual property

23:19:22 ThickAsThieves: how?!

23:19:45 ThickAsThieves: i leave for one week!

23:20:27 ThickAsThieves: Cryptsy not processing my withdrawals for 8+hrs, what is this, MPEx?

23:21:16 TheNewDeal: lol

23:21:17 ThickAsThieves: is it a good or bad thing that you can now threaten customer service "If you don't fix this, I'll start a Reddit riot."

23:21:19 thestringpuller: !s onename.io

23:21:19 assbot: 3 results for 'onename.io' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=onename.io

23:21:33 TheNewDeal: Tat any response yet from the gubbermint on usms sale?

23:21:46 ThickAsThieves: nope, they said early Aug

23:21:52 ThickAsThieves: ides hath passed

23:22:11 TheNewDeal: bastids

23:22:38 ThickAsThieves: btcusd is a big short party now

23:22:50 mircea_popescu: %d

23:22:51 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 168336.15 in 1935 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -91.04

23:23:04 mircea_popescu: !up bitmia

23:23:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 23 @ 0.02523161 = 0.5803 BTC [-]

23:23:17 TheNewDeal: why do you say that tat?

23:23:28 mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> btcusd is a big short party now << and yet it stilkl stays this side of 500.

23:23:29 bitmia: heya everyone! what does it take to get listed on mpex?

23:23:42 mircea_popescu: must suck to be the most powrful country in the world, can't even blend a strawberry.

23:23:55 mircea_popescu: ;;google how does one get listed on mpex

23:23:55 gribble: How does one list on MPEx ? pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea ...: http://fraudsters.com/how-does-one-list-on-mpex; By definition the rightful owner of any coins is "he who can ... - MPEx: http://mpex.co/faq.html; Why List On MPEx? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski: http://contravex.com/2014/07/15/why-list-on-mpex/

23:24:26 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

23:24:27 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 493.55, Best ask: 494.4, Bid-ask spread: 0.85000, Last trade: 494.4, 24 hour volume: 10395.88635699, 24 hour low: 485.39, 24 hour high: 524.8, 24 hour vwap: 502.83360296

23:24:54 ThickAsThieves: 500 having a hard time tho

23:26:22 TheNewDeal: blend a stawberry?

23:27:08 bitmia: mircea_popescu: thanks, I've actually read your post. however it still isn't clear if it'd get listed if you personally don't like the idea or consider the business venture to be pointless

23:27:30 RagnarDanneskjol: whats the business plan?

23:27:31 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust bitmia

23:27:32 ThickAsThieves: lol

23:27:32 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user bitmia: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=bitmia | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=bitmia | Rated since: never

23:27:38 mircea_popescu: seems to me you're not there yet.

23:27:50 bitmia: I'm not, it's for the future :)

23:27:55 TheNewDeal: his identity is secret, like his business plan

23:28:13 mircea_popescu: well okay, so in the future when you'll be you won't be able to have a bad idea anymore.

23:28:17 ThickAsThieves: if the owner of a business doesnt like you and finds you pointless, how can you expect to do business?

23:28:20 mircea_popescu: it's how this wot thing works and why it's so painful

23:28:38 mircea_popescu: also why idiots stay away : they'd rather nurse a bevy of retarded ideas than actually do some work.

23:29:13 ThickAsThieves: bitmia, is that like bitcoin for veterans nonprofit or something

23:29:25 bitmia: perfectly clear, thanks

23:29:51 ThickAsThieves: ;;google powmia

23:29:53 gribble: POW/MIA flag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POW/MIA_flag; The National League of POW/MIA Families — The National League ...: http://www.pow-miafamilies.org/; Defense Prisoner of War/Missing Personnel Office: http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/

23:30:14 TheNewDeal: can you update the fraudsters listing article to include 1) be less retarded.

23:30:22 ThickAsThieves: less?

23:30:40 TheNewDeal: well what do you expect, all the retardation to just up and disappear?

23:30:57 ThickAsThieves: silly me

23:31:09 TheNewDeal: i'd think a slight reduction is the most one could ask

23:31:29 TheNewDeal: perhaps "be minimally less retarded" could do

23:32:37 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal well the wot part is there.

23:32:49 mircea_popescu: it stands pars pro toto.

23:33:02 TheNewDeal: true true

23:34:10 ThickAsThieves: coinbase has had Buying disabled for days, bitfinex is fixing large market orders, usms isnt revealing auction details... hmm

23:36:31 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves final push is final.

23:36:36 mircea_popescu: did diddly squat to boot.

23:36:59 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine/

23:37:01 assbot: Pushing the soft tender flesh of a friend against the sharp rotating blades of the immutable machine. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

23:37:04 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform jurov ^ :D

23:37:12 thestringpuller: whoa coinbase has disabled buying?

23:37:13 thestringpuller: HAHA

23:37:33 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm back

23:37:45 dignork: right now coinbase buy works, when did this happen?

23:38:22 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so what's the atc pool situation ? where's X-Rob to point his miner ?

23:39:05 ThickAsThieves: dignork last i heard coinbase said all buys will be Fri market buys

23:39:27 thestringpuller: yea 501

23:39:41 BingoBoingo: To coinminer would probably be great actually now

23:40:05 RagnarDanneskjol: coinbase has been playing that game for a long time - anytime market shifts >15% in either direction. fukin bozos

23:41:24 BingoBoingo: Coinminer's actually paying us roughly proportionally to our power nao

23:42:06 dignork: i have multiple pending buys, all scheduled for +6 days from the time of purchase, never followed if they actually keep the schedule though.

23:42:11 BingoBoingo: And the username it wants is the address it pays to in the coinbase transaction, so super verifiable

23:42:27 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo give the guy the details pls ?

23:43:13 mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol you don't understand "professional" and "wall street" like teh media vcs do.

23:43:16 RagnarDanneskjol: diginork - beware, those orders might go through anytime - and never leave those pending orders with them - they resume trading as soon as their books level off, just keep refreshing if you must use them

23:43:32 RagnarDanneskjol: right

23:44:19 BingoBoingo: X-Rob: Check your PM's

23:46:15 dignork: Oh, you probably mean express/immediate whatever they call it buy, i nerver managed to set it up, so it always was few days for me.

23:46:30 RagnarDanneskjol: ok

23:46:36 ThickAsThieves: i just mean knowing what price youre paying is important

23:46:46 RagnarDanneskjol: yes, that help

23:46:50 RagnarDanneskjol: s

23:47:00 dignork: oh, the price is defined when you give the order

23:47:30 TheNewDeal: what's the coinbase situation?

23:47:52 RagnarDanneskjol: right, the delivery time is variable/inconsistent

23:48:30 ThickAsThieves: sure, but they did/do have it to where people can't buy whenever price is low

23:48:30 dignork: it's not a proper exchange with hi/lo order limits anyway

23:48:43 RagnarDanneskjol: right

23:49:19 ThickAsThieves: wonder if it's an issue on the way up

23:50:53 RagnarDanneskjol: yes, they suspend normal service anytime price momentum shifts by x% either direction

23:51:23 TheNewDeal: i've heard of them doing that approx 1 year ago, have they been caught doing it again recently?

23:52:27 ThickAsThieves: i dunno, they are going in the wrong direction if they wanna live though

23:52:27 RagnarDanneskjol: yep, still doin it on the regular or so I've been told by 'inside sources'

23:52:57 ThickAsThieves: 1% fee, increasing info requests, market unpredictability

23:53:20 TheNewDeal: most definitely

23:53:45 TheNewDeal: and they rely on bitstamp

23:54:08 RagnarDanneskjol: they are literally a proxy for bitstamp

23:55:55 mircea_popescu: a badly managed proxy.

23:56:10 mircea_popescu: i dunno why the surpriose, it was never the case that coinbase was respected or respectable.

23:56:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine/

23:57:04 RagnarDanneskjol: yep. i stopped using them over a year ago, am just fine paying street xchange fees whenever I ned usd now. Fortunately, in SoCal, I can spend btc all over the place, rarely need to convert anymore

23:58:12 ThickAsThieves: no surprise, only topical i guess