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00:27:08 deedbot-: [Qntra] Hulk Hogan Wins "Revenge Porn" Suit Against Gawker Media - http://qntra.net/2016/03/hulk-hogan-wins-revenge-porn-suit-against-gawker-media/

01:15:08 BingoBoingo: Justice https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/928311

01:15:10 assbot: A deathfat coworker is losing a leg because of me. | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtNUM )

01:22:13 BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/TBBvO3.jpg

01:22:14 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ubu8Xy )

01:25:34 BingoBoingo: !up ryan-c

01:53:36 danielpbarron: a fat picker?? mega-surprise that went on for more than two weeks.

01:53:52 BingoBoingo: UPDATED http://qntra.net/2016/03/hulk-hogan-wins-revenge-porn-suit-against-gawker-media/

01:53:53 assbot: Hulk Hogan Wins "Revenge Porn" Suit Against Gawker Media | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1pzGagp )

01:54:16 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: surprising yes, but ADA, resonable accomodation, etc

02:11:47 BingoBoingo: In other Gawker Media today from their longest tenured socialist agitator https://archive.is/ILB36

02:38:43 BingoBoingo: !up joecool

02:39:06 joecool: BingoBoingo: thanks but i *could* do that if i had much to say at the moment

02:39:15 mircea_popescu: gotta say i admire your patience with the gawker stuff.

02:39:20 BingoBoingo: you're welcome

02:39:27 asciilifeform: yeah my dosimeter maxes out in ~30sec

02:39:36 joecool: how is everyone? been a while since i frequented here

02:39:47 joecool: i read parts of the logs from time to time

02:40:56 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You gotta remember at one point I was able to appreciate the sports stuff that didn't suck for a while. Now I just drink tears as it tears itself appart.

02:41:13 mircea_popescu: i guess huh.

02:41:47 mircea_popescu: in other news i just watched the most ridiculous idiocy ever. i'm talking "robot king kong from outer space" level here.

02:41:55 BingoBoingo: Oh?

02:41:57 mircea_popescu: ;;google metropolitan film

02:42:31 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: someone's gotta take a hit for the team

02:43:12 mircea_popescu: written/directed by one whit stillman. which in itself is amusing, like amateur pornographers making vhs tapes with cardboard credits reading Rick Steele or some shit.

02:43:19 asciilifeform: 'In an apartment on Manhattan a couple of friends from the New York upper-class meet almost every night to talk about social mobility, play bridge and discuss Fourier's socialism; the cynic Nick, the philosophical Charlie, party girl Sally and austenite Audrey. They are joined by Tom. His background is much simpler and he is critical of their way of life. But he finds a soul mate in Audrey, who without his knowledge falls in l

02:43:19 asciilifeform: ove with him. '

02:43:34 mircea_popescu: anyway, it has everything, including a fucktard who proposes to name themselves "urban haute bourgeoisie"

02:43:47 mircea_popescu: chiefly because the ustards are too fucking dumb to even comprehend unintentional selfbattery.

02:43:58 asciilifeform: reads like a demented version of mircea_popescu's 'asylum' ?!

02:44:10 mircea_popescu: i surmise that would be fair.

02:44:12 mircea_popescu: very demented.

02:44:41 mircea_popescu: it's seriously worth seeing just to see what i think of us "upper crust".

02:44:52 mircea_popescu: perhaps better appreciate my disdain for alf's lizzards.

02:45:22 asciilifeform: but no, see, these are merely the ablative reactive armour plating for the real lizards!1111

02:45:28 mircea_popescu: yaya.

02:45:43 mircea_popescu: they're 20somethings who seriously party dressed.

02:46:08 *: asciilifeform has nfi, does not own a torch long enough to cut through the ten layers of wall between him and even nearest window from which lizards might be seen when the planets align.

02:46:14 mircea_popescu: also the whole cast is INCREDIBLY inept at reading.

02:47:33 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they're 20somethings who seriously party dressed. << In the US, the hamplanet hazard means 20 somethings gotta party dressed lest people get triggered of ham-raped

02:47:41 mircea_popescu: which is unfortunate, seeing how the whole thing's one huge monologue.

02:47:49 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: decode plox ?

02:48:18 mircea_popescu: "Whit Stillman was born in 1952 and raised in Cornwall in upstate New York, the son of a impoverished d?butante from Philadelphia and a Democratic politician from Washington D.C."

02:48:22 mircea_popescu: fucking hell that's his real name.

02:48:24 mircea_popescu: and his real life.

02:48:39 asciilifeform: speaking of BingoBoingo's horror shows, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_entrapment#/media/File:OSHA_grain_entrapment_illustration.jpg is interesting and brings to mind a beloved childhood physics text

02:48:40 assbot: Grain entrapment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhQnTb )

02:48:44 mircea_popescu: how the fuck did these beached whales survive pre wikitwittereddit i'll never know.

02:49:25 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, with the poor filter for keeping out undesirables USian 20 somethings are burdened with, nudity invites circus freak disaster

02:51:54 BingoBoingo: Basically, Beetus Bitch Betty and her fold mold scare you USians into a clothed state

02:52:04 mircea_popescu: eh bull.

02:52:08 asciilifeform: where is any of this a thing ?!

02:52:13 mircea_popescu: i have nfi.

02:52:14 asciilifeform: must be a midwest plague

02:52:20 asciilifeform: because it isn't here

02:52:24 asciilifeform: and we have ten thousand plagues.

02:52:25 asciilifeform: but not it.

02:53:26 mircea_popescu: i do not recall a single instance of a nude or nude-tolerant place where fat people voluntarily attempted to participate.

02:53:39 asciilifeform: aha

02:53:46 asciilifeform: one rarely even sees them on streets

02:53:48 mircea_popescu: perhaps i don't do enough renaissance faires / biker conventions / camping / whatever

02:53:59 asciilifeform: i have nfi where they go, perhaps specially designated leprosoria

03:06:19 gribble: Metropolitan (1990 film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_(1990_film); Metropolitan (1990) - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100142/; Whit Stillman's 'Metropolitan' 25 Years Later: How it Bec | Indiewire: http://www.indiewire.com/article/whit-stillmans-metropolitan-25-years-later-how-it-become-a-surprise-indie-hit-20150806

03:06:42 asciilifeform: l0l i think this is a record

03:07:15 mircea_popescu: what ?

03:07:26 asciilifeform: gribble delay

03:07:37 mircea_popescu: o ya

03:07:44 asciilifeform: ~25m

03:09:07 BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag

03:09:08 gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.

03:09:22 asciilifeform: l0l

03:41:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00042066 = 8.4973 BTC [+]

06:40:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00042066 = 6.8568 BTC [+] {2}

09:41:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8187 @ 0.00042094 = 3.4462 BTC [+]

10:39:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00042111 = 6.2745 BTC [+] {3}

11:32:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22176 @ 0.00042138 = 9.3445 BTC [+] {2}

12:16:55 mircea_popescu: !up zdm

13:19:30 deedbot-: [Daniel P. Barron] Cantarita - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/cantarita/

13:41:29 mircea_popescu: btw, apropos of nothing in particular : Nonelementary Problems in an Elementary Exposition, A & I Yaglom.

13:42:26 mircea_popescu: it has a splendid statement of cauchy's binding of riemann zeta terms among other goodies.

13:43:22 asciilifeform: holy fuck, 1st mircea_popescu b00k rec?!

13:43:34 mircea_popescu: never you mind!

13:44:29 mircea_popescu: but yes, fine, fine, should be on that biographical list danielpbarron was making.

13:44:31 mircea_popescu: was it him ?

13:44:42 mircea_popescu: bibliographical*

13:44:44 asciilifeform: was him

13:45:07 asciilifeform: and since when does that thing exist in engl?!

13:45:12 mircea_popescu: ikr ?

13:45:18 mircea_popescu: apparently jews will learn any language.

13:46:23 asciilifeform: speaking of jews, there is an english edition of the infamous 'jewish exam problems' compendium.

13:46:39 mircea_popescu: i hope it has the appropriate trigger warnings.

13:47:18 asciilifeform: it is actually same thing as the yaglom

13:47:46 asciilifeform: now i'm curious how many actually came from it to begin with.

13:50:28 mircea_popescu: speaking of trigger warnings, http://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/may/25/michael-gove-jewish-exam-question

13:50:29 assbot: Michael Gove criticises 'bizarre' Jewish exam question | Education | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1pSEiPI )

13:50:34 mircea_popescu: apparently it's bizarre to ask!

13:51:52 mircea_popescu: "To suggest that antisemitism can ever be explained, rather than condemned, is insensitive and, frankly, bizarre. AQA needs to explain how and why this question was included in an exam paper."

13:52:18 mircea_popescu: hurr. unintentional self-irony on the public budget!

13:55:18 asciilifeform: http://www.math.umt.edu/tmme/vol11no3/Egenhoff_10.pdf << jewishproblemz

13:55:21 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RsV65S )

13:55:32 asciilifeform: ther are several dead tree collections.

13:55:52 asciilifeform: aka 'coffins'

14:17:36 phf: asciilifeform: and since when does that thing exist in engl?! << http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486655369 has a bunch of nifty looking books in "customers who bought"

14:17:38 assbot: Challenging Mathematical Problems With Elementary Solutions, Vol. 1: A. M. Yaglom, I. M. Yaglom: 0800759655366: Amazon.com: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1RsYEVG )

14:17:57 phf: "the ussr olympiad problem book"

14:24:26 phf: i'm waiting for western ashkenazim to start embracing persecution as a status symbol, kind of like how affirmative action devalued blacks in workforce, this is the opposite. was a bit of a thing in su, in some professions (anything related to mil for example) if you were known to be of jewish descent (you wouldn't be on paper, but "people talk") it was also kind of assumed that you were whicked smart to get in

14:26:34 mircea_popescu: it's not going to happen.

14:27:07 mircea_popescu: the sad truth of the 20th century history is that hitler did in fact succeed ; much more than the italian twerp succeeded in wiping the mafia - the nazis managed to actually end judaism.

14:27:34 mircea_popescu: the remnants, in both cases, are this ridoinculous us pretense, much in the way "indians" survived there.

14:27:55 mircea_popescu: a pt barnum version.

14:28:49 phf: "jewish lawyers" on tv

14:29:08 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'good partz' at any rate.

14:29:34 mircea_popescu: "we didn't end him - just decapitated".

14:30:03 asciilifeform: more or less.

14:30:11 mircea_popescu: in this case, more.

14:32:50 mircea_popescu: anyway. in the meantime the heat of battle forged a very different israel, which i suppose can lay claim to continuance. but it is in very few significant points continuing my notion of jewish.

14:33:12 mircea_popescu: then again the same can be said of imaginary postmodern nations such as "austria". really, austria ? ooookay.

14:33:47 phf: apropos, one thing that i couldn't quite grok moving to u.s., how the children of odessa expats (read isaac babel for example about jewish gangsters of odessa) turned into sniveling woody allen clones

14:34:34 mircea_popescu: you familiar with the whole "slav soul, fatalism, blabla" ?

14:34:43 mircea_popescu: the us has it also ; they're much more retarded about it is all.

14:34:51 mircea_popescu: place's too big, is the problem, and in both cases.

14:34:54 asciilifeform: babel is mega-lulzy and exists today in, afaik, every language, mega-recommended to all

14:35:28 asciilifeform: wtf means too big

14:35:37 asciilifeform: no such thing

14:35:59 mircea_popescu: from which we surmise you never had sex.

14:36:10 davout: !b 3

14:36:11 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3Y6NGV8.txt )

14:36:13 asciilifeform: l0l

14:36:17 mircea_popescu: aha.

14:36:23 mircea_popescu: no rub, no pleasure. is such thing as too big.

14:36:29 phf: zing

14:36:39 asciilifeform: i dont fuck countries..

14:36:48 asciilifeform: (cuntries?)

14:37:03 mircea_popescu: ofcourseyoudo.

14:37:09 mircea_popescu: herein inclouded by reference,

14:37:11 asciilifeform: hm.

14:37:13 mircea_popescu: !s resistance of the medium

14:37:13 assbot: 8 results for 'resistance of the medium' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=resistance+of+the+medium

14:37:21 asciilifeform: possibly.

14:37:32 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform country is everyone's woman, eh. what else did you think it were, an abstraction ?

14:39:58 mircea_popescu: (for the curious re notion of jewish - for one thing it speaks fucking idis, and for the other see bashevis-singer an' let me be.)

14:40:04 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436450 << adlai awake? or is he still digesting that kg of lsd.

14:40:04 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 14:32:50; mircea_popescu: anyway. in the meantime the heat of battle forged a very different israel, which i suppose can lay claim to continuance. but it is in very few significant points continuing my notion of jewish.

14:40:50 asciilifeform: i once met the rarest animal on planet3

14:41:08 mircea_popescu: really alf, lost fambly in saxon wastelands speaking plattdeutsch closer to jewish than hebrew speakers in africa.

14:41:12 asciilifeform: ~young~ chick who spoke with idish accent

14:42:28 asciilifeform: and yeah 'jew' means ashkenazim, the other kinds may as well be eskimos as far as i'm concerned

14:44:43 mircea_popescu: 3% in 1000 ad, 97% in 1930s. today's israel has a fake 5 or 10% or somesuch, made mostly of retirees and plastics.

14:45:03 mircea_popescu: pretty epic story, really. but the imposture is also evident.

14:50:34 asciilifeform: updated http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545 with link to ben_vulpes's excellent manual, which i entirely forgot about.

14:50:36 assbot: Loper OS ยป Vectored Signatures, or the Elements of a Possible V-Algebra. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pQWk4X )

16:31:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.0004203 = 5.9472 BTC [-] {2}

16:43:23 deedbot-: [fraudsters] Eulora : Auctions and Bilbulations - http://fraudsters.com/2016/eulora-auctions-and-bilbulations/

17:19:23 mod6: Does anyone else see these error messages running the latest trb (minus shiva)? Looks to be in main.cpp:ProcessMessage around lines 1855:1913. It doesn't look to me to be related to the malleus patch, but I could be wrong there. Thoughts? Seen the same in your logs? Plz let us know. http://dpaste.com/21PJMY4.txt

17:19:25 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1pT50rx )

17:26:48 mircea_popescu: mod6 cat debug.log | grep "std::bad_alloc" yields nothing.

17:29:11 mod6: mircea_popescu: ok thanks for checking.

17:29:54 mod6: fwiw, my node doesn't die, just keeps on running in the event of this exception.

18:15:54 thestringpuller: mod6: looks like my node keeps stalling once it gets up to date?

18:16:17 thestringpuller: it's still pulling in transactions in the logs, but it's not receiving any blocks

18:16:49 thestringpuller: asciilifeform 's stuck node phenomenon I suppose

18:24:15 hanbot: so mod6 & anyone else interested in that shortlogs idea (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2016#1434765): i've been trying out two versions of shortening; one trimmed of off-topic and nontechnical commentary, the other with any relevant line/argument summarized. a possibly substantial problem i see with either of these is that the accompanying philosophical discourse, esp from mircea_popescu, is probably mandatory for comprehension, ev

18:24:15 hanbot: en if doing a quick lookup later

18:24:43 hanbot: and from my own experience anyway, if you cut out some portion of what the man said it WILL come back to bite you

18:26:29 hanbot: one could leave such things intact and merely trim actual offtopic...not sure if that'd actually be useful in the sense mod6 was looking for tho (also not sure it'd merit pay)

18:27:01 mircea_popescu: i'd hire myself to shorten myself ; but then again i already do.

18:27:19 hanbot: lol precisely.

18:29:46 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://imgur.com/gallery/9901ndZ

18:29:47 assbot: I can't beleaf it, all for me! - GIF on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1nXI7By )

18:46:12 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436488 << this is an OOM condition.

18:46:12 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 17:19:23; mod6: Does anyone else see these error messages running the latest trb (minus shiva)? Looks to be in main.cpp:ProcessMessage around lines 1855:1913. It doesn't look to me to be related to the malleus patch, but I could be wrong there. Thoughts? Seen the same in your logs? Plz let us know. http://dpaste.com/21PJMY4.txt

18:46:18 asciilifeform: nonfatal, because the thing was written by tards

18:46:35 asciilifeform: but a node that has experienced it cannot be assumed to be in a consistent state

18:46:38 asciilifeform: and oughta be restarted

18:46:51 asciilifeform: and in fact oom ought to be handled in the exception catcher as a fatal

18:47:34 asciilifeform: in related nyooz, i discovered that one of my test trb boxen has been wedged, without any meaningful log noise whatsoever, for ~2wks

18:48:02 asciilifeform: interestingly, it was among those NEVER exposed directly to the net, fed -connect directly from zoolag (on lan)

18:48:52 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436494 << the idiocy of single-threaded block verification.

18:48:52 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 18:16:17; thestringpuller: it's still pulling in transactions in the logs, but it's not receiving any blocks

18:49:31 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436490 << you won't see this unless oom

18:49:31 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 17:26:48; mircea_popescu: mod6 cat debug.log | grep "std::bad_alloc" yields nothing.

18:49:34 asciilifeform: guaranteed.

18:50:05 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436500 << shortening doesn't work. not if the material is any good to begin with, and author 'left out the parts people skip'

18:50:05 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 18:27:01; mircea_popescu: i'd hire myself to shorten myself ; but then again i already do.

18:54:56 asciilifeform: i still marvel at the idiocy of the existence of oom-without-oomkill

18:55:05 asciilifeform: 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on'

18:55:22 asciilifeform: what kind of liquid shit does a designer need to have for brains, or an os that allows this ?

18:55:48 asciilifeform: i could even see a suspend-on-oom

18:56:02 asciilifeform: but 'pretend nothing happened' ??

18:56:10 asciilifeform: mind-boggling.

19:11:34 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: do you have a solution for "stuck node" phenonemon?

19:13:16 ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: kill -9

19:13:57 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436484 << neat!

19:13:57 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 14:50:34; asciilifeform: updated http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1545 with link to ben_vulpes's excellent manual, which i entirely forgot about.

19:14:08 *: ben_vulpes runs to logs, sees an infinity percent increase in traffic

19:14:32 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nope, the only genuine solution would be multithreaded trb

19:22:05 thestringpuller: fuck. i guess I'll just add watchdog and if logs don't have `ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED` in the last 60 minutes `kill -9 <pid>; ./startrb.sh`

19:22:48 thestringpuller: if already nigga rigged, might as well duct tape the whole thing

19:32:55 trinque: thestringpuller: where are you hosting

19:33:06 thestringpuller: my house...

19:33:15 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: said real nodes aren't hosted..........

19:33:35 thestringpuller: they are run from closet in house

19:33:43 trinque: the reason I ask is that my "stuck node" problems vanished when I left AWS.

19:34:09 thestringpuller: ah. yea. I'm running on debian jessie a core 2 duo machine (older but not super old). but everytime thing gets "up to date" it stops asking for blocks

19:34:20 thestringpuller: i honestly don't know if I can run as true full node

19:34:38 thestringpuller: but then again I'm only connected to ascii's node right now to receive blocks

19:49:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00042074 = 1.2201 BTC [+]

20:51:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> interestingly, it was among those NEVER exposed directly to the net, fed -connect directly from zoolag << that IS interesting. wut ?!

20:52:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on' << maybe it didn't really need it ?

20:53:14 mircea_popescu: there's perfect reason for OS to allow it if code does. "couldn't load that picture - sorry", for instance.

20:53:46 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> if already nigga rigged, might as well duct tape the whole thing << that's actually not even the worst solution.

21:03:14 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436542 << aha just sat there, hanging.

21:03:14 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 20:51:53; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> interestingly, it was among those NEVER exposed directly to the net, fed -connect directly from zoolag << that IS interesting. wut ?!

21:03:44 mircea_popescu: innerving.

21:03:46 asciilifeform: not oom, nothing at all.

21:04:04 asciilifeform: (box with 24G of ram, not even 1/4 full)

21:04:41 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2016#1436543 << there is no provision for anything of the kind in trb, beyond the barbaric expedient of a tx which throws exception during processing simply not being stored

21:04:41 assbot: Logged on 19-03-2016 20:52:51; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'sure it couldn't alloc but let's carry on' << maybe it didn't really need it ?

21:05:41 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was being facetious, sorry for omitted quotes.

21:05:50 mircea_popescu: "maybe it didn't really need it"

21:08:52 asciilifeform: l0l

21:44:37 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/5020de06eea1bc0543b5b4f0d8324ac0/tumblr_ntwpu9cgtb1tkka62o1_1280.jpg

21:44:38 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1RWohPm )

23:41:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00041975 = 11.6271 BTC [-]