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00:00:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.08799988 = 2.112 BTC [+] {3}

00:01:13 moiety: Will it be a bunch of humans plus one computer sitting around a table? No, don't take it literally. << sad times

00:02:15 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/468179754198528001

00:02:16 assbot: Congrats to /gavinandresen /twobitidiot /brockpierce /Winklevii and the other recipients of the prestigious http://t.co/XAg2W4iXFw awards.

00:08:59 benkay: zero cookies.

00:09:10 benkay: BingoBoingo: alas, no. humans funnier than I.

00:16:06 benkay: ;;google cascadian hacker receptionist

00:16:06 gribble: News 3/4/11 | HIStalk: http://histalk2.com/2011/03/03/news-3411/; Network Engineers Wanted: Convergys Hosts Open House in ...: http://article.wn.com/view/2014/03/28/Network_Engineers_Wanted_Convergys_Hosts_Open_House_in_Rohrm/; EarthFirstJournal Earth First! - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Earth-First-Journal/231380093597575

00:16:55 benkay: hey assets i'm fucking with dns - what's the entry at the top of the list on cascadianhacker.com ?

00:18:44 mircea_popescu: you know you can use browsershots.org

00:19:06 mircea_popescu: but the receptionist.

00:19:30 moiety: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/05/18_relics-of-a-bygone-era.html on mine

00:19:31 assbot: relics of a bygone era...

00:19:46 benkay: boo internet.

00:20:12 benkay: well at least all the buckets are in the right place and all the bits are falling into all of the buckets.

00:20:32 benkay: guess i just gotta wait for the eventually consistent thing to consistify.

00:21:39 BingoBoingo: moiety: SEC call yet?

00:23:12 moiety: yep, just wanted to know what the reg fee for mpex was

00:25:34 benkay: noobs

00:29:13 benkay: mircea_popescu: when dns propagates itself to you, you may get a kick out of the photos in 'relics of a bytegone era'

00:34:35 moiety: benkay: wee typo in first line after the pics

00:35:02 moiety: its pretty neat that thing

00:36:17 benkay: yeah, i woulda stole it but then the girls woulda gotten all pissy.

00:36:27 benkay: also http://intuitlabs.com/labexperiments/quickbooks-bitcoin-payments

00:36:27 assbot: QuickBooks Bitcoin Payments | Intuit Labs

00:36:35 benkay: this is why payments is such a stupid play for the educated bitcoiner

00:36:39 benkay: there's no moat

00:36:49 benkay: and brands that americans trust more than your derpy self are going to come in and eat your lunch.

00:37:19 mircea_popescu: indeed.

00:37:37 mircea_popescu: but no. we shall make wallets, which was the first functionality provided for free

00:37:40 mircea_popescu: and then migrate into payments.

00:37:45 mircea_popescu: smart people, these.

00:50:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4116 @ 0.00089953 = 3.7025 BTC [-]

00:55:24 benkay: ;;google fraudsters leverage

00:55:25 gribble: dilemma-not-trilemma-global-financial-cycle-and-monetary ... - Vox: http://www.voxeu.org/article/dilemma-not-trilemma-global-financial-cycle-and-monetary-policy-independence; What interests me in a project pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea ...: http://fraudsters.com/2014/what-interests-me-in-a-project/; Dilemma not Trilemma: The Global Financial Cycle and Monetary ...: (1 more message)

01:03:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.088 = 0.616 BTC [+]

01:04:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.08752586 = 0.8753 BTC [-] {2}

01:08:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00089931 = 8.9032 BTC [-]

01:21:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/dial-1-646-480-0703-for-bitcoin/

01:21:24 assbot: Dial +1 646 480 0703 for #Bitcoin pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

01:22:06 mircea_popescu: pankkake this thing seems broked

01:28:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00089825 = 5.1649 BTC [-] {2}

01:29:16 BingoBoingo: http://jalopnik.com/that-zero-hedge-article-on-unsold-cars-is-bullshit-1578124255

01:29:17 assbot: That Zero Hedge Article On Unsold Cars Is Bullshit

01:30:35 BingoBoingo: !up Diablo-D3

01:30:55 BingoBoingo: !up Diablo-D3

01:31:07 Diablo-D3: That Zero Hedge Article On * Is Bullshit

01:34:24 mircea_popescu: ^

01:34:44 mircea_popescu: pretty much every single article they run is bs, just, generally one doesn't have the direct knowledge for this to be obvious

01:34:59 mircea_popescu: their article on bitcoin betting was utter bullshit.

01:35:12 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/zonehedge-wow-such-durden-much-info-about-useless/

01:35:13 assbot: ZoneHedge Wow. Such Durden. Much info. About useless. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

01:46:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5057 @ 0.00089952 = 4.5489 BTC [+]

01:47:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.08568394 = 2.1421 BTC [-] {6}

01:49:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 75 @ 0.08267527 = 6.2006 BTC [-] {11}

01:51:41 moiety: i'm about passing out, good night all :]

01:51:54 mircea_popescu: sleep well

01:53:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0855001 = 0.684 BTC [+]

01:53:05 *: benkay calls moiety

01:54:04 mircea_popescu: give it half an hour

01:55:09 mircea_popescu: hm, so anyone with a clue about rss, why is http://fraudsters.com/feed/ broken ?

01:55:09 assbot: fraudsters

01:55:17 mircea_popescu: the 1st item fails to display.

01:56:05 benkay: showed up in my reader just fine

01:56:25 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/ubuntu-is-a-worse-piece-of-shit-than-ms-dos-ever-was/

01:56:26 assbot: Ubuntu is a worse piece of shit than MS-DOS ever was. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

01:56:39 mircea_popescu: > terminator.

01:57:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00089713 = 11.3038 BTC [-] {3}

01:57:20 mircea_popescu: apparently if oyu include a > rather than a &gt; it breaks some parsers

02:05:21 mircea_popescu: pankkake could "by Mircea Popescu at Monday May 19" be "by Mircea Popescu on Monday May 19" ?

02:07:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08550201 = 0.342 BTC [+]

02:11:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12085 @ 0.00089952 = 10.8707 BTC [+]

02:28:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00089651 = 18.9164 BTC [-] {2}

02:32:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00089208 = 1.8288 BTC [-]

02:34:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00089865 = 10.1098 BTC [+]

03:04:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00089682 = 10.0444 BTC [-]

03:17:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 116 @ 0.08843487 = 10.2584 BTC [+] {12}

03:19:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.08999789 = 0.54 BTC [+]

03:22:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 1214 @ 0.00080435 = 0.9765 BTC [-] {19}

03:23:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.08883693 = 0.8884 BTC [-] {3}

03:25:01 benkay: what the hell is this: http://pnmlc-oregon.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Intervest-Logo1.jpg

03:25:04 benkay: intervest?

03:25:17 benkay: i swear, the idiocy is spreading.

03:28:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00089891 = 4.3148 BTC [+]

03:32:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0311999 = 0.3432 BTC [+] {2}

03:33:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0312 = 0.2496 BTC [+] {4}

03:35:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.02300001 = 0.276 BTC [+]

03:36:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08898989 = 0.178 BTC [-]

03:49:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00089815 = 7.9486 BTC [-]

04:11:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28120 @ 0.00089964 = 25.2979 BTC [+] {3}

04:23:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.03930001 = 0.1179 BTC [-] {2}

04:44:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 53 @ 0.02300001 = 1.219 BTC [+]

04:48:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0393 = 0.2358 BTC [-] {2}

04:56:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0312 = 0.2496 BTC [+]

05:00:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.0009003 = 11.1637 BTC [+] {3}

05:24:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.02300001 = 0.207 BTC [+] {2}

05:26:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 104 @ 0.08038444 = 8.36 BTC [-] {11}

05:27:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 44 @ 0.08000931 = 3.5204 BTC [-] {3}

05:33:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00089852 = 4.5825 BTC [-] {2}

05:50:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.0722363 = 2.3116 BTC [-] {5}

05:59:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00089835 = 3.0544 BTC [-]

06:08:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [-]

06:20:20 bounce: quite a few outfits called intervest, not all in finance

06:29:52 bounce: <corbinoff> the eagle has landed: http://zerocash-project.org/

06:29:53 assbot: Zerocash | Zerocash

06:31:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.08598601 = 1.3758 BTC [+] {5}

06:32:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.08868749 = 2.838 BTC [+] {2}

06:33:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.452 BTC [-]

06:34:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.45998675 = 0.92 BTC [+]

06:40:09 benkay: bounce that's an actual company called "umpqua bank" who are advertising with the phrase "intervest"

06:40:11 benkay: it makes no sense.

06:40:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4556853 BTC [-]

06:42:13 fluffypony: investerrific!

06:42:43 benkay: http://www.beepboopbitcoin.com/

06:43:20 bounce: what do they think it means?

06:43:47 fluffypony: oh I love that game

06:43:52 fluffypony: I was sad when my house burnt down

06:47:35 benkay: i'm really amused at the trade lag

06:47:40 benkay: bounce: who can even know

06:52:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00089835 = 5.3452 BTC [-]

06:57:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00089751 = 6.866 BTC [-] {2}

06:57:47 benkay: the exponential scam blowup is entirely contrary to reality though

07:07:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00089835 = 0.4492 BTC [+]

07:07:26 benkay: eyo BingoBoingo

07:08:02 benkay: ;;gettrust assbot toffoo

07:08:03 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user toffoo: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=toffoo | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=toffoo | Rated since: Tue Mar 15 18:00:23 2011

07:08:14 BingoBoingo: Hola benkay

07:08:47 benkay: why is it that one should not drink while taking antibiotics?

07:10:47 benkay: the internet tells me that this is a stupid question.

07:20:11 benkay: !up lolstate

07:20:30 benkay: !up lolstate

07:24:35 BingoBoingo: benkay: Well, it depends on the antibiotic.

07:24:57 BingoBoingo: Many antibiotics mess with liver and kidney functions in interesting ways.

07:26:07 BingoBoingo: For example alcohol related dehydration encourages growth of crystals in the kidneys with many sulfa antibiotics.

07:26:25 BingoBoingo: With something like doxycycline liver failure is a possibility.

07:28:54 BingoBoingo: If you are on a flouroqinolone, vancomycin, or some other less frequently used drug you really should be more concerned with not dying.

07:29:25 BingoBoingo: than having fun

07:39:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00089878 = 9.1676 BTC [+] {2}

07:40:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00089744 = 0.359 BTC [-]

07:48:25 moiety: mewning

07:53:45 BingoBoingo: Morning

07:54:07 fluffypony: moiety: morns

07:54:12 fluffypony: how goes the phone line?

07:55:30 moiety: fine i think, BB didn't hear me too well. put a voicemail thingy on it for over night

07:55:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.43212034 = 7.346 BTC [-] {9}

07:57:00 moiety: how are you both?

07:57:18 moiety: BB youre up late, you feeling ok?

08:01:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00089971 = 13.9005 BTC [+]

08:06:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5531 @ 0.00090103 = 4.9836 BTC [+] {2}

08:07:30 moiety: ahh i think it was using my laptop mic [which is further away] instead of my plugin one

08:08:45 pankkake: that would make sense

08:09:43 pankkake: I need a "table" mic for my pc, too. My $300 sound card + $5 mic give me a volume that is too low

08:11:43 fluffypony: I remember those Creative Labs mics that used to come with the SoundBlaster cards in the 90s

08:12:01 fluffypony: they were the best

08:12:25 cazalla: blue yeti is pretty nice, i have one of those

08:12:28 BingoBoingo: moiety: I'm fine enough to be awake

08:12:30 kakobrekla: i know of a solid one

08:14:06 kakobrekla: SL-8691

08:15:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00089971 = 5.2183 BTC [-]

08:16:17 bounce: too bad you can't just throw a $295 upgrade at the $5 mic and end up with an as good as $300 mic

08:17:27 kakobrekla: i also have a phillips wm 61a capsule with a phantom power

08:17:30 kakobrekla: amp

08:17:33 kakobrekla: and its not worth it.

08:17:56 pankkake: I just need something for voice capture that is hands free

08:17:56 bounce: my, subtle. huffingtonpost is putting children do gooder organisations people forward as "experts" justifying the brit pr0n censorship thing

08:18:17 pankkake: and well, it used to work with the old sound card

08:18:27 bounce: because, you know, having to call up and say you're a pervert is a choice

08:19:03 bounce: plenty gamer headsets available these days

08:19:21 pankkake: what, they're doing censorship by default now?

08:19:31 bounce: they've been doing that for a while

08:19:46 pankkake: so it's just a matter of time before the option disappears :/

08:20:11 bounce: while it's still there you can't complain because "you have a choice"

08:22:51 bounce: though apparently there's still a few (smaller, more tech savvy) ISPs that "forgot" to implement the "voluntary" filter and have no plans to do something about it

08:26:00 pankkake: same in France basically (we have some censored websites, and it's not optionnal). also datacenters usually don't have the censorship

08:33:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00089971 = 3.014 BTC [-]

08:34:28 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615479.0 I can only hope this is a joke

08:34:28 assbot: [ipo] Ipo for an ipo of a new company.

08:34:41 fluffypony: pankkake I can't decide

08:34:46 fluffypony: he seems quite serious

08:34:52 fluffypony: maybe very dedicated trolling

08:36:25 bounce: some people are so good at it they don't even notice they're trolling

08:41:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00089796 = 8.5306 BTC [-]

08:42:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00089744 = 1.3013 BTC [-]

08:43:05 moiety: some people are just that stupid it comes across as trolling

08:43:58 moiety: and to know the idea before others << wow epic investment

08:48:33 fluffypony: moiety yeah

08:48:38 fluffypony: such investment strategee

08:48:48 moiety: "what can go wrong?"

08:49:11 fluffypony: I think it's the start of a new set of IPOs for IPOs

08:49:19 fluffypony: and then an IPO for managing an IPO

08:49:32 moiety: domino effect works well on idiots

08:49:52 mircea_popescu: benkay: it makes no sense. << have you tried using the othere side of the brain ?

08:49:55 HeySteve: good morning

08:50:00 mircea_popescu: heya.

08:50:05 mircea_popescu: aw shit.

08:50:07 mircea_popescu: hey steve.

08:50:26 moiety: good morning :]

08:50:41 HeySteve: we've been looking at HKCEX.net an exchange accepting PayPal and CC, offering 8.88% bonus on deposits...

08:50:45 HeySteve: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=609805.0

08:50:46 assbot: HKCEX adds WDC as pair in credit card purchasing.

08:50:51 HeySteve: seems to be under DDOS atm

08:50:59 mircea_popescu: how's the mews-ety ?

08:52:13 HeySteve: "14th / 15th May: HKCEx was announced on this forum.

08:52:13 HeySteve: 16th / 17th May: People realize that they can't withdraw any funds from HKCEx."

08:52:55 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/468313314800705536

08:52:56 assbot: The primary weakness with Bitcoin as a store of value (money) is that it is easily copied with "altcoins" resulting in unlimited supply.

08:52:56 mircea_popescu: fucktards.

08:53:09 mircea_popescu: HeySteve ouch.

08:53:56 HeySteve: yeah looks like another scam exchange :( but really, 8% bonus just to deposit your money? that's too good to be true...

08:54:19 kakobrekla: fuck i will withdraw my pirate money nao

08:54:55 mircea_popescu: HeySteve wasn't one of the yet-another-coinbases offering 10 bux in credit ?

08:55:03 mircea_popescu: that's a lot more than 8%.

08:55:08 HeySteve: uh Circle was I think

08:55:19 BingoBoingo: Moar like Jerkle

08:55:25 HeySteve: but they're legit cuz someone from Goldman Sachs in onboard ;)

08:55:47 mircea_popescu: oh i see

08:55:56 mircea_popescu: and nobody from goldman sucks ever stole anything in their life ever.

08:56:09 HeySteve: yes exactly, they do God's work

08:56:34 BingoBoingo: The problem is they do it for their Jew god

08:57:12 bounce: so convert. then you can join in with the fun

08:57:15 mircea_popescu: i was fucking the jew god last night

08:57:20 mircea_popescu: and she told me she's never heard of them.

08:57:57 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bn9kH_EIIAARzdc.png << meanwhile ukraine has a cockfest.

08:58:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5761 @ 0.00089744 = 5.1702 BTC [-]

08:58:32 bounce: so what makes the underscore happen then?

08:59:33 mircea_popescu: the underwho ?

09:01:14 mircea_popescu: benkay: why is it that one should not drink while taking antibiotics? << because the enzyme pathway responsible for putting away alcohol is also involved in most antibiotics processing, and it's easily overwhelmed.

09:01:31 HeySteve: mircea_popescu, isn't geoff pyatt the guy who was on the other end of the "fuck the EU" chat?

09:02:13 mircea_popescu: i think so

09:02:22 HeySteve: anyway good to see Ukraine has got its own hashtag now. that should solve everything

09:02:35 bounce: alky enzime pathway boosters, not just for antibiotics treatments

09:02:45 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: I remember those Creative Labs mics that used to come with the SoundBlaster cards in the 90s << fuck, me too!

09:03:28 bounce: a cheap mike with noise suppression like the better mobile phones have would be nice

09:03:29 mircea_popescu: cazalla: blue yeti is pretty nice, i have one of those << hey cazalla you called the girl up yet ?

09:03:44 mircea_popescu: bounce i tohught the noise supression was software

09:03:49 BingoBoingo: bounce: Im not sure CYP 450 works the way you think it does...

09:03:53 bounce: could be

09:04:18 bounce: time to find out, and patent the shit out of it if it does

09:04:35 mircea_popescu: lol

09:04:45 mircea_popescu: you can't patent medicine, what are you, kidding ?

09:05:21 bounce: that must be why there's nothing but generics at the chemists, I'm sure

09:06:04 mircea_popescu: pankkake bounce explain this censorship thing to me like i live in the civilised world ?

09:06:11 mircea_popescu: i have nfi wtf im reading in the logs

09:07:13 mircea_popescu: bounce no but see, in order to support research and the free and fair interchange of ideas, as well as the scientific development required by modern society, only one of about five megacorps is allowed to file for a state-enforced monopoly on select chemical processes.

09:07:39 mircea_popescu: taking the ipo of an ipo idea into reality : there's a monopoly on the monopoly.

09:07:49 mircea_popescu: the wonders of rent extraction

09:08:08 bounce: the inglis went "think of the children" and instituted pr0n bl0kcers at ISPs. you can "opt in" to pr0n (do note weasel wording, if it's not in the law it certainly was in the draft) by telling them you're a pervert and provide proof (of age, by CC, when you apparently were old enough to enter into the contract in the first place)

09:08:21 mircea_popescu: (this chapter includes scamming, incidentally, which explains why large corps in socialist/welfarist governments and internet scammers stumble on the same tropes)

09:08:48 mircea_popescu: bounce what ?!

09:08:50 bounce: this above and beyond the bgp-related fun wrt the "internet watch foundation" k1dd13 pr0n block, which you can't opt out of

09:08:51 mircea_popescu: when this ?

09:09:19 mircea_popescu: ;;google bgp

09:09:20 gribble: Border Gateway Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol; Networking 101: Understanding BGP Routing: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsp/article.php/3615896/Networking-101-Understanding-BGP-Routing.htm; Internetworking Technology Handbook - Border Gateway Protocol ...: (1 more message)

09:09:28 pankkake: to censor a website, you had to sue all ISPs and force them to do it - now there is a secret list of censored websites, and no specific purpose (i.e. it's not restricted to pedonazis by law)

09:09:42 pankkake: censoring a website is also just an administrative decision

09:09:48 bounce: yes, that bgp. it apparently does a number on sites co-hosted with blocked sites

09:10:05 HeySteve: so UK just created black market for digital porn?

09:10:13 mircea_popescu: wait what the fuck is this

09:10:17 mircea_popescu: dude how long have i been asleep

09:10:36 bounce: no, you can just tell'em to stuff it with the filtering PROVIDED you're willing to to admit to being a pervert. yet.

09:11:06 bounce: been going 'round for the last year or so? maybe two? put in a couple months ago.

09:11:08 mircea_popescu: so everyone is just setting encrypted tunnels to their own boxes outside of the uk/eu or what ?

09:11:14 pankkake: is fraudsters censored?

09:11:23 mircea_popescu: i swear the day i can't load a website for fault of my isp i'm burning it down wtf is this

09:11:38 HeySteve: first they came for the hardcore xxx lesbians...

09:11:39 mircea_popescu: pankkake this event has not yet occured where i try to load a site and my isp won't serve it.

09:11:57 mircea_popescu: and if it did, i would start spending on terrorism, simply put.

09:12:19 bounce: oh them british already have a law against "extreme pr0n", which includes cartoons, or overage people /looking/ like they might be underage

09:12:32 mircea_popescu: dude how do people still live in there.

09:12:42 mircea_popescu: so nobody on 4chan from the uk ?!

09:12:47 pankkake: americans too. obscenity laws

09:13:01 mircea_popescu: uh

09:13:58 mircea_popescu: the collapse of the western world is a fucking moral imperative by now.

09:14:01 mircea_popescu: no two ways about it.

09:15:09 pankkake: there's this BDSM cartoon series where at the start of every issue they state every character is over 18

09:15:22 *: bounce would settle for less idjits in politics and striking lots and lots of laws from the books, as it's pressure group induced and a hard reboot would be rather messier than strictly necessary

09:15:25 pankkake: and now they state that the cartoon persons are voluntary actors

09:15:33 chetty: so they have sex ed for 5 year olds, but you can't wathc pr0n, explain please

09:15:33 pankkake: it's so stupid

09:15:53 mircea_popescu: pankkake the... cartoons are voluntary ?!

09:15:58 bounce: chetty: "close your eyes and thing of england" ring a bell?

09:16:12 pankkake: yes. it's like, they're actors

09:16:16 mircea_popescu: what the shit, how about someone start a bdsm cartoon stating everyone is under 12 and being based on real persons who are being forced to do the things depicted.

09:16:20 mircea_popescu: i'd pay just for this to exist.

09:16:54 mircea_popescu: bounce oh come on.

09:16:56 bounce: robert crumb's work?

09:17:05 mircea_popescu: bounce he's dead isn';t he

09:17:20 mircea_popescu: and the fucktarded children of the women that he didn't fuck are roaming free

09:18:33 moiety: I'm well mircea_popescu and i don't seem to have missed anything overnight :D how are you?

09:18:55 mircea_popescu: i am fuming out of five different smokestacks for five unrelated reasons.

09:19:27 mircea_popescu: bounce the idea that there is such a thing as "messiser than necessary" is how the problem started and spread.

09:19:35 mircea_popescu: no dude, let it be way way way fucking messier than necessary.

09:19:52 mircea_popescu: by heaps and outrageous bounds messier than necessary.

09:20:20 mircea_popescu: give the messy something to remember

09:21:23 chetty: <mircea_popescu> i am fuming out of five different smokestacks for five unrelated reasons.<< someone call the bomberos

09:21:36 mircea_popescu: lmao bomberos

09:22:08 mircea_popescu: meanwhile on tweeter :

09:22:10 mircea_popescu: Ken Griffith @kendo451 ? 2h The primary weakness with Bitcoin as a store of value (money) is that it is easily copied with "altcoins" resulting in unlimited supply.

09:22:10 mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu ? 28m @kendo451 @kLee1977 You really have no clue wtf you're talking about. Is your wife easily copied with "women" resulting in unlimited supply?

09:22:10 mircea_popescu: Ken Griffith @kendo451 · 5m @Mircea_Popescu @kLee1977 My wife doesn't present herself as a monetary unit. Point is, Bitcoins are limited, yet cryptocurrencies are not. Hide conversation 

09:22:10 mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu ? 33s @kendo451 @kLee1977 So your wife is limited, but women are not. Your logic isn't all that it might have been, had you learned some.

09:22:13 mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu @Mircea_Popescu ? 7s @kendo451 @kLee1977 And for that matter, #bitcoin doesn't present itself "as" anything. What you perceive it as is your own issue.

09:24:35 fluffypony: hah hah

09:24:38 fluffypony: I love that analogy

09:25:03 mircea_popescu: no but he knows.

09:25:20 mircea_popescu: he's sat down and thought about it for a whole half minute and so therefore has a result on the topic that should be shared with the world.

09:25:50 mircea_popescu: i should be so fucking lucky, walk from here to the bathroom, be ready for the olympics.

09:26:21 bounce: nah. I don't think we're all that desperate (yet), and since the problems come from a rather well-defined section of society I'm not really willing to let everyone, mostly /other/ sections of society suffer for it.

09:26:58 mircea_popescu: bounce why not ?

09:27:15 bounce: provided we do manage to excise that bit. if we can't, we can always escalate.

09:27:28 mircea_popescu: who to your knowledge is trying to excise that bit ?

09:28:32 bounce: so far it's mostly them making themselves impossible.

09:28:52 mircea_popescu: so then you don't really have half a leg to stand on here, do you.

09:29:10 mircea_popescu: those /other/ sections of society have to be bled for their indolence.

09:29:13 mircea_popescu: always a crime.

09:30:19 bounce: you're assuming revolutions work like clockwork and arguing that therefore precision strikes aren't to be preferred over carpet bombing with daisy cutters

09:30:36 bounce: I happen to not buy into that idea

09:30:52 mircea_popescu: not in any case.

09:31:11 mircea_popescu: i am assuming that precision strikes aren't to be preferred because punishment must be disproportionate and impredictable to work.

09:31:26 mircea_popescu: otherwise, the weasels plan and account for it aforehand.

09:31:46 bounce: not in this case. we can always carpet bomb later. even if doing that now would preclude the expense of precision strikes

09:32:15 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/economic-cycles-finally-explained/#identifier_0_54105 re the punishment.

09:32:16 assbot: Economic cycles finally explained pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

09:32:19 bounce: they'd be aimed at the wrong target, and I'd rather try this targeting thing first

09:32:39 mircea_popescu: bounce the argument here is that "later" is meaningless absent and sort of process, and that precision strikes are a liability not a +ev move.

09:32:46 chetty: carpet bombing takes a lot of ammo, are they worth the bullets?

09:33:02 mircea_popescu: chetty i thought we were discussing metaphorical bombs.

09:33:15 mircea_popescu: those being always and everywhere the cheapest sort.

09:33:18 bounce: the result needs to be worth the expense, not the victims

09:33:22 chetty: even so, effort = ammo

09:33:43 mircea_popescu: chetty but in these matters, "precision strikes" take effort. carpet bombing, on the contrary, does not.

09:33:58 mircea_popescu: you just decide "this entire culture must die out". least possible effort.

09:33:58 chetty: I stand corrected

09:34:16 bounce: then again it's the well-connected that'll survive best. ie, our targets, them politicos.

09:34:44 bounce: so you'd have a new culture made up out of the same arses all over again

09:34:52 mircea_popescu: i doubt it.

09:34:58 mircea_popescu: the problem is not the people, the problem is the structure.

09:35:11 mircea_popescu: in a world created of tailored punishment and precision strikes, the incentive is for the bullshit you see.

09:35:24 chetty: a few years (generation or so) break at least

09:35:26 bounce: so with different structure we'd get better ideas bubble up to the top?

09:35:30 mircea_popescu: in a world created out of catastrophic punishment and complete and utter disregard for the /other/ sections of society however,

09:35:35 mircea_popescu: the incentive is for the world you wish to see.

09:35:52 mircea_popescu: <bounce> so with different structure we'd get better ideas bubble up to the top? << people don't do what they want to do. people do what works.

09:36:09 mircea_popescu: start beating your wife whether you know why or not, she's going to start behaving like lady huddington.

09:37:46 bounce: whosat den?

09:37:52 mircea_popescu: my bad, apparenty it was Hillingdon

09:38:02 mircea_popescu: the chick with the close her eyes and think of england

09:38:16 mircea_popescu: fucking empire names.

09:41:19 mircea_popescu: also, the politicos are arguably the least well connected of anyone.

09:41:45 bounce: right. apparently I misremembered and ended up even more apt than intended.

09:41:48 mircea_popescu: this is a subtler point, but probably the best way in is through considering the "nothing sinks a good startup as well as bad revenue early on" observation

09:42:14 mircea_popescu: politicos are wrongly connected, which makes them worse off than were they poorly connected.

09:42:35 bounce: oh, there's hope for the non-connected in politics then. provided they found a way in.

09:42:58 mircea_popescu: bounce yes. their hope is simply this : that people like you stop believing there's any value in saving the innocents.

09:43:05 mircea_popescu: the innocents exist, as a category, for the slaughter.

09:43:14 mircea_popescu: once that happens, they can finally find their way.

09:43:32 mircea_popescu: (and i know this from experience, this was romania)

09:43:35 bounce: that ought to be a working angle for the crowbar on their bad lawgiving

09:44:08 bounce: the connectedness bit, I mean

09:45:02 mircea_popescu: bounce obviously nobody fucks up deliberately. people fuck up with the best of intentions.

09:45:07 mircea_popescu: always, always with the best of intentions.

09:45:36 mircea_popescu: politicos, just like bitcoin ceos, just like anyone else, would really do great things, "were it possible".

09:45:38 mircea_popescu: !up haos

09:45:51 mircea_popescu: they're just you know, waiting for it to become possible.

09:45:56 bounce: "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"

09:46:11 bounce: reason why I don't want to go into politics for the ideology

09:46:17 mircea_popescu: so how do you precision strike ?

09:46:25 mircea_popescu: do you bomb everyone animated by good intentions ?

09:46:48 mircea_popescu: it's nonsense outright and in principle this. what precision ? you can't even distinguish.

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09:48:05 fluffypony: LOL

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09:48:22 mircea_popescu: lol

09:48:28 bounce: not impossibly difficult, actually. I'd want government to be a support for the people instead of a tool to manipulate the people.

09:48:41 mircea_popescu: two kinds of nerds : those virgin yet and those virgin still.

09:48:56 bounce: that's two kinds rolled into one then

09:49:09 mircea_popescu: bounce and i want a pair of colored tits. not any particular color, mind you, just colored in principle.

09:49:11 mircea_popescu: can you do this for me.

09:49:28 bounce: here's some paint, bring your own tits

09:49:37 mircea_popescu: no, cause your paint is a particular color

09:49:48 mircea_popescu: i want my tits colored IN PRINCIPLE, not any particular color.

09:50:00 mircea_popescu: just like, you know, your govt that supports rather than manipulats people.

09:50:11 mircea_popescu: because principles can now be things, apparently, you've found a way.

09:51:38 bounce: hm right. so how'd you call it when I'd rather make policy without the "because we believe from a priori assumptions that this will make anything better" part?

09:51:53 bounce: s/any/every/ obviously

09:52:08 mircea_popescu: being an idiot ?

09:52:30 mircea_popescu: why the fuck would you do anything other than because it's supposed to fix something.

09:52:33 bounce: huh. and so universities are our premier stores of idiots?

09:52:44 chetty: just stop fixin stuff

09:54:02 mircea_popescu: <bounce> huh. and so universities are our premier stores of idiots? << well yes. surpriserd ?

09:54:53 mircea_popescu: but yes, i'm with chetty : stop pretend-fixing things, and also undo most of the fixes already in place. they're broken.

09:57:02 *: bounce tried to highlight the pretend- part, apparently failed

09:57:50 bounce: what would the turnaround on catastrophic punishment be, anyhow?

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10:06:11 mircea_popescu: bounce well you failed because if we knew which was the pretend part in advance and universally we'd break godel.

10:06:19 mircea_popescu: and what do you mean turnaround ?

10:07:22 mircea_popescu: "Hey all!, after seeing some topic in this section i have taken the liberty to share my idea with you.

10:07:22 mircea_popescu: I am making an ipo for an ipo ( yep need to raise funds even to show you the "business plan", in those days i need to eat too) so, with the funds raised i will start thinking how can i make a good company, you will have preference spot in the share selling of that company and upcoming ipo. Lets say if you are the top owner share of this ipo,you would be able to buy the next ipo shares 4 days earlier than others and to

10:07:22 mircea_popescu: know the idea before others (with this you can also steal it and make your own business before i), also you will get a percentage of "first believer shares" that would be redeemed for final ipo shares and will give you the right to vote if the company success."

10:07:32 mircea_popescu: lmao the forum just keeps getting better and better, in the sense of worse.

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10:12:58 punkman: https://twitter.com/NotMorozov

10:12:59 assbot: Evgeny Morozov, Not (NotMorozov) auf Twitter

10:13:20 bounce: hm. even so. I'd say that scientific method (properly applied) has a better chance of uncovering laws of nature than religion does. the scientific community certainly claims this. do we have some sort of proof for that, or maybe just strong evidence?

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10:14:49 mircea_popescu: punkman it occurs to me, someone should make an ipo as a pretend-historical character.

10:15:04 mircea_popescu: "crassus ipo. as the richest man in all the history of the roman empire, and perhaps the world, definitely i can repay you"

10:16:06 mircea_popescu: bounce that is your flaw, and the flaw of the society you live in generally. you reflect each other. the problem is that "precision strikes" as you call the category work amazingly well in technology. as the most technologically successful group of people ever, contemporary whites have come to worship it.

10:16:06 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

10:16:16 mircea_popescu: with amazingly shitty results outside of its domain.

10:16:16 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

10:16:32 mircea_popescu: what'd you think of a shaman coming to do architecture with his shamanistic beliefs ?

10:16:50 mircea_popescu: becuase that's what i think of you, approaching politics wholly ignorant of politics, with an expectation that your voltmeter may do something.

10:17:04 punkman: Morozov has a few things to say about technological solutionism, not sure if worth reading though

10:17:38 mircea_popescu: punkman kind-of an obvious sidepoint i guess, even kant has some pages about how stupid this is.

10:17:46 mircea_popescu: kant you know. before electricity.

10:18:06 mircea_popescu: goethe has a coupla aphorisms on the topic as well if memory serves

10:18:25 punkman: this guys is making a career out of it though

10:18:50 mircea_popescu: so did kant :)

10:19:00 mircea_popescu: well, i guess different "it"s

10:19:53 bounce: but I like my voltmeter!

10:20:01 mircea_popescu: so shove it

10:20:16 bounce: nah. asking what method would be a better one is still valid.

10:20:45 mircea_popescu: only if you didn't frontload "better"

10:21:02 bounce: just saying "shake it all up and hope something better comes out, this one fershure is darn shitty" isn't, you know, very inquiring

10:21:16 mircea_popescu: (shove it, ie, well if you like it so much and wanna apply it to everything why aren't you doing THAT with it too)

10:21:29 mircea_popescu: bounce you mean inspiring ? and why shouldn't it be.

10:21:35 mircea_popescu: you know the joke with the gypsy wife ?

10:21:40 bounce: I mean inquiring

10:21:55 mircea_popescu: inquiring means that which has the quality or the form of asking a question

10:21:58 mircea_popescu: wtf sense does this make

10:22:28 bounce: just like asking for ways to measure effectiveness of ideology-driven political government would open up the way to comparing alternatives

10:22:35 mircea_popescu: holy shit they broke the dictionary.

10:22:56 mircea_popescu: in·quir·ing /inˈkwīriNG,iNG-/ adjective: inquiring showing an interest in learning new things. "an open, inquiring mind"

10:22:58 mircea_popescu: god help us.

10:23:08 mircea_popescu: in another decade it will be impossible to even talk to the children.

10:23:47 mircea_popescu: bounce something hinders you from reviewing the historical record ? other than, of course, the dictionary problem i've just re-re-rediscovered, for my sins ;/

10:24:10 bounce: it's clearly your sins that are holding us all back. repent, etc.

10:25:11 mircea_popescu: well let me be a pompous ass all the way then. "for my sins" is perhaps the oldest, and thus original ironic use of a phrase. at the time four centuries ago religious sentiment was still both strong and strongly in control. people like

10:25:47 mircea_popescu: de Baskerville, devoid of any faith but roughly interestred in the paraphenalia such as the libraries would say such things

10:25:54 mircea_popescu: formally proper, sinful in intent.

10:27:37 bounce: "for my sins" the original irony. don't let ms. morissette hear it.

10:27:58 mircea_popescu: lol

10:28:28 mircea_popescu: anyway. individual use is certainly earlier, shakespeare et all, and probably existed during the romans but i just don't know of it.

10:28:47 mircea_popescu: but afaik this is the first instance of irony-the-meme

10:32:25 bounce: the thing with reviewing the historic record is that it isn't very good experiment content, if you will. turnaround tips on a similar theme: takes too long to evaluate effect for an interested outsider, much less teach much toward a desired or at least desirable outcome

10:33:43 mircea_popescu: that's so wrong i can't even be offended.

10:34:02 mircea_popescu: so you can't even speak latin to the barristers these days, then they wonder why the republic is in shambles.

10:34:21 mircea_popescu: consider this simple point : rome was, for a millenium and change, a larger town than the majority of us towns ever were or ever will be.

10:34:38 mircea_popescu: and they ran it. without electricity. without the combustion engine. without refrigeration, or pumps.

10:34:52 mircea_popescu: you try this, seriously, make new york work without electricity for a year.

10:35:16 mircea_popescu: what, you think people haven't lived together before ? they have, but their recorded experience is lost to you. this isn't their problem. it's yours.

10:35:38 mircea_popescu: you're not very good at experiment content. nature is nature. what, quarks are very good at experiment content ?

10:35:47 mircea_popescu: no, just, physicists actually work at their actual profession.

10:35:53 bounce: how did I say it was their problem?

10:36:01 mircea_popescu: whose

10:36:38 mircea_popescu: ah. well when you try to discard a metric shitton of experimental data on the grounds that you can't read it...

10:36:40 mircea_popescu: my skin curdles.

10:37:56 bounce: no, all I said was that it isn't very good data. it's incomplete and moreover biased. reason enough to look for more ways to get more input.

10:38:07 mircea_popescu: anyway, if us bureaucracy today were about on par professionally with the roman bureaucracy in the times of nero, way past the expiration date of that state, ron paul would have an epiphany and would be introducing bills for giving lincoln posthumous honors.

10:38:17 mircea_popescu: bounce how would you know either of these ?

10:38:44 mircea_popescu: bias in philosophy doesn't work like bias works in physics.

10:39:20 bounce: it's only just about the first thing aspiring historians are taught. maybe they're a faith-based bunch? who knows.

10:39:51 mircea_popescu: see, let's look at it this way :

10:40:04 mircea_popescu: what's the first thing i say here ? "who the fuck are you and what makes you think you have something to say".

10:40:14 mircea_popescu: and aspiring scientists are always taken aback. "how can he say this!11"

10:40:27 mircea_popescu: well, bias in science means rejecting the outliers.

10:40:34 mircea_popescu: here the outliers are worthless.

10:41:15 mircea_popescu: bias here is exactly contrarily : taking random joe blow seriously as if he were a human being.

10:41:17 mircea_popescu: he's not./

10:41:46 mircea_popescu: every particle, you must take seriously, as if it were the entire fucking world, and one particle is enough to disprove an entire theory, in physics. sure.

10:42:01 bounce: in history it's more like you only get half the record: the story told by the victors, those that survive to literacy. you don't get a lot of the failures, or even the successes that got eclipsed or had their records destroyed for whatever reason.

10:42:08 mircea_popescu: but taking every nobody seriously is the recipe for complete and utter failure.

10:42:17 mircea_popescu: that's not half the record. that is the whole record.

10:42:40 mircea_popescu: the rest is not wrongfully discarded, and it's not even merely discarded : it is *properly* discarded.

10:43:18 bounce: so burning down a library out of, say, a fit of religious extremism, would be "proper discarding"?

10:43:25 mircea_popescu: it is uninteresting and unimportant what the helots thought of lacedemonia

10:43:34 mircea_popescu: bounce the books burned, did they ?

10:44:38 bounce: yet random joe blow breathes and can make language-type noises, can't he?

10:44:44 mircea_popescu: i don't know. can he ?

10:45:05 mircea_popescu: if he can then why isn't he. your average scammer, he can make ipo-type noises, can't he ?

10:45:06 mircea_popescu: or can he ?

10:45:14 mircea_popescu: what's in a *-type noise ?

10:45:19 bounce: you're not listening yet warming yourself on the fire?

10:45:27 bounce: I think you just lost me.

10:45:44 mircea_popescu: ok, where ?

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13:03:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0227 = 0.1816 BTC [-] {2}

13:03:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0042023 = 0.4202 BTC [-]

13:04:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0312 = 0.2808 BTC [+] {2}

13:05:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0876858 = 0.2631 BTC [+] {2}

13:05:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 40 @ 0.00550203 = 0.2201 BTC [-] {2}

13:08:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08768528 = 0.3507 BTC [-] {2}

13:08:42 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615668.0

13:08:42 assbot: [ANN] [DOJE] Dojecoin ***POW/POS***7 DAYS ONLY***80billion DOJE***

13:08:43 fluffypony: LOL

13:10:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.00600011 = 0.24 BTC [-]

13:10:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02251999 = 0.1126 BTC [-] {3}

13:13:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.0312 = 0.2808 BTC [+] {2}

13:14:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03139987 = 0.3454 BTC [+] {4}

13:15:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00089674 = 1.2554 BTC [+]

13:17:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.006 = 0.9 BTC [-] {3}

13:21:06 punkman: Why use ipoMiner? We research and analyze new coins to determine which ones are the most promising, saving you hours of work.

13:24:30 kakobrekla: o look tat has competition

13:24:34 kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=605531.0

13:24:34 assbot: 【ANN】Alt-bitcoin (Alt-BTC) will continue to thrive from this moment!!!

13:24:38 kakobrekla: >Alt-bitcoin is a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin, as its special name is.Bitcoin is the only coin that has the highest acceptance and we are lost in the massive altcoins.Everyone loves Bitcoin!!But it is is too expensive for us, we can store this coin named Alt-bitcoin instead. Now we can say: we have tons of bitcoin!! We are never, ever going to be poor again!!

13:25:08 punkman: never ever

13:28:41 fluffypony: lol

13:30:50 punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599353.0 "I'm a  musicians, having un underground band, and i know that for small indipendent artist,having a band is quite hard"

13:30:50 assbot: [ANN] VIOLINCOIN ◥◤◥◤-1 Day to release ◥◤◥◤

13:31:36 fluffypony: wtf is wrong with these people

13:31:42 punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=610049.0

13:31:42 assbot: [ANN] Antarcticcoin [ACC] X11 POW 5DAYS /5 month 20 fair emission / Money reward

13:31:47 fluffypony: I'm going to stick to Rambocoin

13:31:50 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=613632.0


13:31:51 punkman: " A potential threat, he slept in the ordinary tourists millions of years of ice. Long time not found on earth bacteria. Awakening from the darkness, biological underground world, these unknown glacier, what factors will affect people on earth, does this mean that a deadly new virus? Now who could not be determined! This will be a great discovery, so it will be a huge Antarctic coins, I believe it will give those who try to collapse t

13:32:32 pankkake: c'est la danse des canards, coin coin coin coin

13:33:53 punkman: https://www.bitcointalknshop.com/ " We are new community in the works that will allow many of us to stay in contact without all the FUD! we will also provide a place where users can sell items online for btc, alt-coins, and our own coin."

13:33:55 assbot: BCTS

13:35:02 punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606996.0 "Are your secrets eating away at you? Clear your conscience by confessing your darkest secrets at confessioncoin.com. After entering your secret, the confession wizard will determine how many ConfessionCoins you must pay to wipe your sins away."

13:35:02 assbot: [PRE-ANN] [CFN] ConfessionCoin | Secrets are better shared | Scrypt | DigiShield

13:35:11 punkman: "Peace of mind is surely worth the small price! In exchange for your penance, your confession will be stored anonymously in the Blockchain, immortalized forever."

13:35:40 fluffypony: lol

13:35:44 fluffypony: punkman you're on a roll today

13:43:40 punkman: https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs12.postimg.org%2Fxjrx9pcod%2Finfo3.png&t=540&c=KGbsGiYehq3iFg

13:46:55 punkman: "MLK Coin is absolutely not a racist coin, it is a coin that carries with it the same dream of a co-mingled society not divided by tribes of skin color, but united as a single family of human beings.  A small pre-mine percentage is intended for distribution to the black community, but the majority (90%) is not.  It is open to miners, investors, and traders of any race, gender, orientation, or other classifications."

13:49:12 Namworld: ...

13:49:37 fluffypony: !!!

13:49:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12249 @ 0.00089542 = 10.968 BTC [-] {4}

13:51:05 pankkake: let's hope for a KKKoin

13:52:22 punkman: "The first statement will be that there is still some good left in this world. We plan on doing that by showing that a coin with 51% premine and not a scam CAN exist! I will personally be giving away or feeding faucets, if I have to, until ALL coins are paid out! Rain or shine! If my net goes down, I'll use my neighbors'! If he says no, I'll hack his WIFI! (j/k, I'll use McDonalds)"

13:53:37 kakobrekla: re KKK; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XjKnxOcaO0

13:53:37 assbot: The Website is Down #3: Remain Calm - YouTube

13:58:11 punkman: fluffypony: y u make me look at coins, need eye bleach

13:58:19 fluffypony: hah hah

13:58:25 fluffypony: blame Obama

13:59:59 punkman: I'm gonna go back to something productive, and by productive I mean writing the worst possible CMS because I just can't use one of the 9000 existing ones

14:09:53 jurov: punkman even considering self-support?

14:14:39 punkman: jurov, guess I'll find out

14:16:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00089524 = 6.7143 BTC [-] {3}

14:18:46 thestringpuller: punkman: where is the original post for that image?

14:19:06 thestringpuller: with the futurama character profiles

14:19:13 punkman: http://nxtl.eu/forum/discussion/2/next-coin-lite-officiall-topic-fair-distribution

14:19:14 assbot: Next Coin LIte - Officiall Topic - Fair Distribution - NXT Lite

14:19:38 punkman: "Financial system that works like a Swiss Watch"

14:21:13 punkman: what's "Pole coming soon" mean, I wonder

14:21:28 davout: kakobrekla: this is awesome

14:21:37 kakobrekla: it is.

14:21:49 davout: take a bite of this delicious hard-drive sandwich

14:30:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1853 @ 0.00089683 = 1.6618 BTC [+]

14:32:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00089419 = 6.4829 BTC [-] {2}

14:45:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00089707 = 9.2398 BTC [+] {3}

14:56:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9420 @ 0.00089408 = 8.4222 BTC [-] {2}

14:56:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08739999 = 0.3496 BTC [-] {2}

14:57:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.03139987 = 0.1884 BTC [+] {2}

15:04:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00090112 = 4.9562 BTC [+] {3}

15:09:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]

15:10:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5854 @ 0.00089648 = 5.248 BTC [-]

15:11:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.02210011 = 0.3757 BTC [-] {3}

15:11:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03153946 = 0.5362 BTC [+] {4}

15:12:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02210011 = 0.221 BTC [-]

15:15:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00089408 = 7.4209 BTC [-]

15:16:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.095 = 0.38 BTC [+]

15:21:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 19 @ 0.02210011 = 0.4199 BTC [-]

15:21:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.03158512 = 0.6001 BTC [+]

15:24:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.095 = 1.235 BTC [+] {2}

15:24:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5700 @ 0.00011156 = 0.6359 BTC [-] {13}

15:25:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 128 @ 0.03828242 = 4.9001 BTC [-] {8}

15:29:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.095 = 0.38 BTC [+]

15:38:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 446 @ 0.00089566 = 0.3995 BTC [+]

15:45:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 39 @ 0.0381013 = 1.486 BTC [-] {5}

15:46:59 pankkake: lol goat left me negative feedback "well known scammer, avoid!"

15:48:20 fluffypony: lol

15:59:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC [-]

15:59:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42800149 BTC to 8`549 shares, 28401 satoshi per share

16:05:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00089798 = 5.3879 BTC [+]

16:09:17 thestringpuller: Goat is still alive?

16:09:42 thestringpuller: I thought someone in thailand would have murdered him by now.

16:12:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.02210008 = 0.1547 BTC [+] {2}

16:13:12 thestringpuller: fluffypony: You are fluffy because you feel love.

16:13:13 thestringpuller: lolololol

16:13:16 thestringpuller: lovypony

16:15:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4598 BTC [-]

16:15:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7553 @ 0.00089619 = 6.7689 BTC [-] {2}

16:15:55 fluffypony: lol

16:16:00 fluffypony: thestringpuller: I'm fluffy because I'm hirsute!

16:18:00 thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe

16:18:00 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00089208 / 0.0009007 / 0.00091525 (531483 shares, 478.71 BTC), 7D: 0.00089208 / 0.00098354 / 0.00101 (5615318 shares, 5,522.94 BTC), 30D: 0.00083786 / 0.00094468 / 0.00101 (24576619 shares, 23,217.08 BTC)

16:19:23 bitcoinpete: howdy

16:23:27 benkay: morning, bitcoinpete

16:23:31 benkay: !t h rent

16:23:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00595510 / 0.00610485 / 0.00640000 (318 shares, 1.94134263 BTC), 7D: 0.00577500 / 0.00650799 / 0.00710000 (2326 shares, 15.13759085 BTC), 30D: 0.00532500 / 0.006501 / 0.00750000 (8603 shares, 55.92807694 BTC)

16:24:17 BingoBoingo: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2632618/Poppy-worlds-oldest-cat-24-thats-114-human-years-partial-odd-kebab.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

16:24:17 assbot: Poppy is the world's oldest cat at 24 (that's 114 in human years) and she is partial to the odd kebab | Mail Online

16:24:48 bitcoinpete: that's the saddest looking creature

16:26:18 thestringpuller: bitcoinpete needs to be sent to Iran to report on bitcoin VICE style

16:26:19 thestringpuller: jkjk

16:26:31 Duffer1: hehe

16:26:36 fluffypony: lol, thestringpuller is in a very good mood today

16:26:55 moiety: is it not 114 in cat years and 24 in human years?

16:27:21 bitcoinpete: lol i'd visit iran

16:27:34 bitcoinpete: not sure the bitcoin angle has much traction there

16:27:35 benkay: ;;calc 114/24

16:27:35 gribble: 4.75

16:28:07 bitcoinpete: benkay: so you hacked multibit to adjust the transaction fees?

16:28:20 benkay: nooooo?

16:28:29 benkay: my counterparty was running a multibit wallet

16:28:32 moiety: that poor wee cats needs moar kebabs

16:28:35 moiety: cat*

16:29:01 benkay: zero-fee txn didn't show up until blockchain reset, whatever that means in the context of an spv client

16:29:48 bitcoinpete: a ok

16:30:12 bitcoinpete: sounded more impressive in the logs lol

16:30:28 bitcoinpete: "rebuilding" being something you'd undertaken

16:32:58 thestringpuller: fluffypony: i was literally born laughing

16:33:06 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu's latest on ubuntu was a good reminder that pretty much all the oses suck

16:33:12 thestringpuller: I DIDN"T CRY WHEN I WAS BORN LIKE A LITTLE BITCH

16:33:21 bitcoinpete: mac os isn't so bad really

16:33:42 fluffypony: thestringpuller: I was born at a very early age

16:33:42 thestringpuller: freeBSD is pretty good

16:34:12 bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: did you cry when you found out about irc?

16:34:46 mod6: <+thestringpuller> I DIDN"T CRY WHEN I WAS BORN LIKE A LITTLE BITCH << haha

16:35:00 bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: do you use freebsd or openbsd?

16:35:33 danielpbarron: i've been messing around with openbsd

16:36:50 thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: mod6 got me into freebsd, it's much more stable than most OS's I use but it was hard as fuck for me to set up

16:36:57 thestringpuller: I still don't think I set it up right...

16:37:39 bitcoinpete: danielpbarron: and how goes the battle?

16:37:51 danielpbarron: it's alright

16:38:00 bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: other than irc, what are you using it for?

16:38:11 danielpbarron: i'm running into troubles, but i think it has more to do with flash drives not being the best place to store the blockchain

16:38:40 danielpbarron: and also, i haven't yet figured out how to compile ssss on openbsd 5.5

16:39:04 danielpbarron: bitcoind 0.7.2 compiled ok, it gives a warning but i don't think it's criticall

16:39:54 bitcoinpete: ya the chainz ain't got no place on flash drivez

16:40:15 danielpbarron: why should it be a problem? only have to write every 10 minutes or so

16:40:33 danielpbarron: right now i'm not at that point; i'm still trying to get it caught up with the latest block

16:40:40 bitcoinpete: ooo this should be juicy, marc andreessen on bitcoin and the future of the digital economy: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/05/marc_andreessen.html

16:40:41 assbot: " + soundfiledesc + "

16:41:22 danielpbarron: i'm doing it with flash drive partly because the box i'm using doesn't have a big enough HD, and partly because I like the idea of being able to grab a flashdrive if i had to get out of dodge in a hurry

16:41:48 danielpbarron: and carry a copy of the blockchain with me

16:42:05 BingoBoingo: benkay: Multibit does that sometimes even with transactions that have fees attached. It's annoying.

16:42:06 bitcoinpete: i like the idea of that plan too, just not sure why you'd want to carry the whole blockchain

16:42:20 mod6: do you have a blockchain in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

16:42:26 bitcoinpete: just need a few multibit and gpg keys, neh?

16:42:40 bitcoinpete: mod6: "my, it's growing so fast!"

16:42:41 danielpbarron: neh! i need full node!

16:43:00 mod6: haha

16:43:27 Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats

16:43:30 gribble: Current Blocks: 301577 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 822 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 18 hours, 2 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10339512163.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 16.78556

16:43:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+] {2}

16:43:51 bitcoinpete: danielpbarron: i could see the attraction

16:44:17 danielpbarron: yeah i could just carry gpg but I don't want to rely on things like bc.i

16:44:49 danielpbarron: yeah I could redownload the blockchain wherever i go, but that takes a day; what if i need funds sooner?

16:45:27 bitcoinpete: danielpbarron: myeah

16:45:48 danielpbarron: but i'm not dead-set on that plan; feel free to show me how my idea is stupid

16:46:15 thestringpuller: why the fuck is bitcoind so bloated

16:46:18 thestringpuller: it's lagging so much

16:46:26 thestringpuller: 21 seconds to do getbalance

16:46:39 BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's simple really, the "devs" are lead by fucktards

16:46:49 danielpbarron: i would love for someone in this channel to rewrite bitcoind

16:46:54 thestringpuller: is there anyway for us to fix that?

16:47:05 thestringpuller: should we be funding "real devs"

16:47:15 danielpbarron: it's open source; who cares what the "devs" do

16:47:36 bitcoinpete: you could also have a gpg encrypted txt file with your brainwallet passphrase, meaning you'd just need brainwallet.org or bitaddress.org

16:47:41 danielpbarron: i would totally chip in to that project

16:47:57 bitcoinpete: or even just have the private key encrypted in a txt file

16:47:58 danielpbarron: bitcoinpete, lool i'm not using those

16:48:21 danielpbarron: i have generated a very long very random passphrase but i'm not going to plug it into those services

16:48:36 bitcoinpete: fair enough

16:49:10 BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Don't forget last week's discussion on javascript random failures

16:49:34 bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: haven't forgotten

16:49:37 thestringpuller: never trust javascript

16:49:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00089798 = 1.1225 BTC [+]

16:49:50 bitcoinpete: no one is trusting javascript

16:50:09 BingoBoingo: It's probably not the language's fault per se. It's just that all of the runtimes for it suck.

16:50:16 bitcoinpete: those are just two sites you can use to input a passphrase and retrieve your private key

16:50:28 bitcoinpete: then input your private key into bitcoind or bc.i or w/e

16:51:09 bitcoinpete: then away you go on your tour around the world in 80 days

16:51:14 danielpbarron: it's my understanding that BTC private keys shouldn't be seen

16:51:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00417 = 0.417 BTC [-]

16:51:52 mod6: once you get your priv key, you can import into whatever hot wallet

16:52:00 mod6: then, send if you wish.

16:52:56 rithm: send it to me young padewon so that i might decode it and protect it for you

16:53:02 mod6: haha

16:58:20 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: but srsly, i don't know there's anything nicer in the wonderful world of creativity than coming up with something before lunch and having it all deployed and working by supper. << so sweet

17:03:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00090208 = 7.1264 BTC [+]

17:08:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+]

17:10:48 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: apparently the mental illness of religious people has been found. some sort of epilepsy << at least according to thomas hobbes, the jooz took epilepsy as a possession to spirits.

17:16:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3307 @ 0.00011811 = 0.3906 BTC [+] {4}

17:18:49 bitcoinpete: bounce: because, you know, having to call up and say you're a pervert is a choice << the bitcoin hotline has competition nao

17:19:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4200 @ 0.00012061 = 0.5066 BTC [+] {4}

17:20:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 830 @ 0.00012061 = 0.1001 BTC [+] {2}

17:21:47 bitcoinpete: watched this ice t movie yesterday. it's the best troll of progressives i've ever seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlUQFDxJedg

17:21:48 assbot: Surviving The Game - Theatrical Trailer (Widescreen)(High Quality) - YouTube

17:27:57 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: the collapse of the western world is a fucking moral imperative by now. << priceless

17:29:09 HeySteve: <+danielpbarron> i would love for someone in this channel to rewrite bitcoind <-check out https://github.com/libcoin/libcoin/wiki

17:29:09 assbot: Home libcoin/libcoin Wiki GitHub

17:29:37 HeySteve: wish granted, sort of

17:31:13 danielpbarron: cool, thanks

17:31:22 BingoBoingo: http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25396688/i-team-police-say-bundy-ranch-protesters-not-off-the-hook

17:31:23 assbot: I-Team: Police say Bundy ranch protesters not off the hook - 8 News NOW

17:35:00 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: i am assuming that precision strikes aren't to be preferred because punishment must be disproportionate and impredictable to work. << taleb says the same thing. like china when they execute heads of companies for losing quarters

17:38:11 TheNewDeal: bitcoinpete, you interested in any more http://bitbet.us/bet/677/bitcoin-network-difficulty-14bn-on-bastille-day/ ?

17:38:11 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 30.09 B (71%) on Yes, 12.38 B (29%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 4 days | weight: 14`655 (100`000 to 1)

17:39:24 bitcoinpete: TheNewDeal: probably have enough exposure for now, thx

17:39:45 TheNewDeal: okie dokie

17:48:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC [-]

17:53:41 BingoBoingo: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/05/19/data-pirates-caribbean-nsa-recording-every-cell-phone-call-bahamas/

17:53:42 assbot: Data Pirates of the Caribbean: The NSA Is Recording Every Cell Phone Call in the Bahamas - The Intercept

17:54:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00089534 = 9.2668 BTC [-] {2}

17:55:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00089997 = 8.9997 BTC [+] {2}

18:00:44 mike_c: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-announce-first-criminal-charges-against-foreign-country-for-cyberspying/2014/05/19/586c9992-df45-11e3-810f-764fe508b82d_story.html

18:00:45 assbot: U.S. announces first criminal charges against foreign country for cyberspying - The Washington Post

18:01:14 mike_c: i'm sure china will send them right over for the trial.

18:01:21 fluffypony: irony.

18:01:26 TheNewDeal: the best

18:09:26 jurov: https://github.com/libcoin/libcoin/wiki << waitwhat? just so?

18:09:27 assbot: Home libcoin/libcoin Wiki GitHub

18:09:50 jurov: is it production?

18:16:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.0395 = 0.1185 BTC [+]

18:21:35 moiety: <mod6> do you have a blockchain in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me? <<lol epic

18:26:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.459 BTC [-]

18:50:10 benkay: danielpbarron: re rewriting bitcoin, look into conformal.

18:55:01 pankkake: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/apple-rejects-female-masturbation-app/472857-11.html

18:55:02 assbot: Apple rejects female masturbation app - IBNLive

18:55:44 mod6: weak

18:56:26 fluffypony: so can we now loudly claim that Apple is gay?

18:56:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 35 @ 0.00583916 = 0.2044 BTC [-] {6}

18:56:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11959 @ 0.00089674 = 10.7241 BTC [-] {2}

18:58:05 danielpbarron: benkay, thanks

19:03:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00089436 = 5.4109 BTC [-] {3}

19:16:38 bitcoinpete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2eYBoxbnWs#t=15

19:16:39 assbot: Bitcoin Poorly Explained - YouTube

19:17:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 104 @ 0.095 = 9.88 BTC [+]

19:26:44 bitcoinpete: this is surely the reason localbitcoins sucks quite so thoroughly: https://twitter.com/LocalBitcoins/status/468452557506224128

19:26:45 assbot: http://t.co/5K1CEvBcCy, site resurrect operation, almost there http://t.co/DdRqJF5aiB

19:27:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4599 BTC [+]

19:27:22 mike_c: because they are using macs? agreed.

19:27:22 artifexd: That's disgusting, on many levels.

19:30:19 bitcoinpete: mike_c: artifexd because of it all. even the tweet itself

19:30:40 bitcoinpete: "Circle CEO, Jeremy Allaire, has ruffled many a libertarian feather by frequently making the case that Bitcoin will not see widespread consumer adoption without regulation, including regulations that target anonymity." <<fuck this dood

19:30:56 bitcoinpete: from http://reason.com/archives/2014/05/19/bitcoin-remains-a-tool-for-freedom-even

19:30:57 assbot: Bitcoin Remains a Tool for Freedom, Even While Going Mainstream - Reason.com

19:31:35 fluffypony: lol

19:31:38 fluffypony: what a knob

19:32:31 fluffypony: mike_c: I bet that's just a "hot desk"

19:32:31 fluffypony: because web scale

19:32:33 bitcoinpete: this whole brito piece is full of brain damage lol

19:33:09 bitcoinpete: "But while we may see the Bitcoin ecosystem consolidate to a few dominant firms eager to satisfy regulators, this is no reason to despair." << or consolidate as shit gets shucked

19:33:40 bitcoinpete: "A new entrant doesn't need permission before he can compete with established players" << other than coming to -assets?

19:38:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [+]

19:40:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11811 @ 0.0008985 = 10.6122 BTC [+] {2}

19:44:38 BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Well, it depends on what they are doing.

19:45:20 BingoBoingo: If the new entrant starts a puppy mill selling dogs for doge, they might only need to come here to provide some lulz

19:45:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00089408 = 9.9243 BTC [-]

19:46:52 TheNewDeal: how about a puppy mill for grinding dogs into meat for doge?

19:47:24 fluffypony: y u no like dojecoin?

19:47:31 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615668.0

19:47:32 assbot: [ANN] [DOJE] Dojecoin ***POW/POS***7 DAYS ONLY***80billion DOJE***

19:48:03 mod6: wth

19:48:15 fluffypony: who knows

19:48:23 fluffypony: between that and Rambocoin I give up

19:49:18 TheNewDeal: hasnt doge forked a andful of times?

19:49:25 penguirker: New blog post: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/05/18_relics-of-a-bygone-era.html

19:49:25 assbot: relics of a bygone era...

19:49:26 penguirker: New blog post: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/05/18_where-the-sidewalk-ends-an-exercise-in-creative-technology-use.html

19:49:26 assbot: where the sidewalk ends - an exercise in creative technology use

19:51:17 fluffypony: TheNewDeal: I don't keep tabs on them, way too many shitcoins

19:51:41 moiety: BingoBoingo: http://thebest404pageever.com/swf/Epic_Dog_Race.swf

19:51:52 TheNewDeal: ahhh, thought you were asking me why i didnt like them. see you were joking about doje

19:52:08 BingoBoingo: moiety: So wonderful

19:52:43 TomServo: benkay: "The mug is sculpted and the PAIN applied over the sculpting"

19:52:59 TomServo: Also, nice find!

19:55:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6603 @ 0.00090037 = 5.9451 BTC [+] {2}

20:04:47 moiety: is freenode having another stroke?

20:06:10 chetty: http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2014/05/19/michigan-suburb-to-ticket-anyone-caught-swearing/

20:06:10 assbot: Michigan Suburb Tickets People For Swearing, Fine Is $200 « CBS Detroit

20:10:54 TheNewDeal: jesus fucking christ

20:11:20 moiety: imagine how much they would make in here

20:11:24 TheNewDeal: hahaha

20:11:30 fluffypony: $600 from TheNewDeal already!

20:13:05 chetty: I wonder if they give the cops a list of what counts as a 'swear' word? And can the cops read it?

20:13:26 mircea_popescu: hey there lazy chan

20:13:31 mircea_popescu: no lines to nom ? aww.

20:13:42 mircea_popescu: !up davidlatapie

20:13:55 jurov: chetty certainly not loud

20:14:08 pankkake: is this Demolition Man come true?

20:14:20 mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> "A new entrant doesn't need permission before he can compete with established players" << other than coming to -assets? << i kinda love how they hint but won't come out and say it.

20:14:31 mircea_popescu: such passive agressive defeatism drilled into these people.

20:14:55 rithm: john spartan you are fined 1 credit for profanity usage

20:15:28 mircea_popescu: that's what your mom said

20:15:41 fluffypony: hah hah

20:15:44 fluffypony: I lol'd

20:16:18 davidlatapie: mircea_popescu: hi mircea_popescu You name rings something to me

20:16:25 mircea_popescu: by the way : for the remainder of the month i shall be mostly travelling. if anyone wants to make mpex deposits or other maneuvers, better get them done now.

20:16:38 mircea_popescu: davidlatapie i get that a lot.

20:16:58 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: does that mean we have to entertain ourselves? :(

20:17:10 mircea_popescu: yep

20:17:19 mircea_popescu: and if i donb't have 2k lines to read a day ima start fining people.

20:17:21 fluffypony: in your absence I'm going to invite my wife into the channel and we're going to talk about looooove and puppies and butterflies

20:17:24 davidlatapie: I've just been told of this chan an hour ago, unfortunately, I wil be out for 30 minutes so I won't be able to talk

20:17:40 mircea_popescu: well by then your voice'll expire so all is well :D

20:17:59 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'll talk to TAT and make sure we fill the chan with 2000 lines of poetry each day

20:18:03 davidlatapie: I did not understand exactly what is a voice?

20:18:13 jurov: mircea_popescu: you're going by boat?

20:18:13 davidlatapie: Not everyone can talk, this is it?

20:18:25 mircea_popescu: jurov yes.

20:18:27 fluffypony: davidlatapie: http://fraudsters.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/

20:18:28 assbot: #bitcoin-assets +m pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

20:18:36 mircea_popescu: i got this new battleship and going to test it out

20:19:13 fluffypony: I have a new battleship to, but the wife doesn't like it if I call her that in public

20:19:34 TheNewDeal: speaking of shitcoins

20:19:43 mircea_popescu: fluffypony haha she's not that fat

20:19:50 mircea_popescu: nor are her tits big enough to make the assembly float.

20:19:54 TheNewDeal: I was on coinmarketcap yesterday, and it said the amount of darkcoins transferred were on the same magnitude as bitcoins

20:20:05 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yes, but she has enough Angry German in her to make everyone cower ;)

20:20:18 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal i was on a tripod site also yesterday, and it said it had 1`859`094`993 unique visitors

20:20:20 mircea_popescu: this past week

20:20:24 fluffypony: TheNewDeal: massive pump and dumps going on with Darkcoin, and considering it's a massive premine...yeah...

20:20:27 mircea_popescu: just think of what that means!

20:20:37 fluffypony: TheNewDeal: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#darkcoin

20:20:41 assbot: a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins - Devtome

20:20:45 davidlatapie: I really like the social model you are putting in place. Plus, I would have a lot of thing to talk about, but I really have to go! Surely later

20:20:47 TheNewDeal: oooo didin't realize it was premine

20:20:53 mircea_popescu: btw, who linked earlier the fucktarded nigger coin, indended for racial harmony but with a 10% premine going to support nigger laziness ?

20:21:05 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: punkman, he was on a ROLL

20:21:12 mircea_popescu: that shitrocked

20:21:20 fluffypony: TheNewDeal: "That means in less than 8 hours, almost 5% of the Darkcoins that ever will be created spawned in that 1/3 of a day. It's safe to say Darkcoin has left it's investors in the dark on this one."

20:21:39 mircea_popescu: btw is this darkcoin connected to amir taaki or am i confusing tards again

20:21:54 rithm: amir is so underground

20:22:00 fluffypony: confusing tards

20:22:00 davidlatapie: It wasn't a premine, it was a sad accident. Stop bad mouthing ,-)

20:22:10 fluffypony: amir is dark market

20:22:16 fluffypony: and dark wallet

20:22:17 rithm: he's so dark

20:22:24 fluffypony: and dark hole-where-the-penis-goes

20:22:39 TheNewDeal: oh my, such a great pun ending that paragraph

20:22:39 mircea_popescu: darkanus ?

20:22:57 fluffypony: TheNewDeal: they definitely need to get in on the comedy circuit

20:23:03 rithm: amir's gonna get back at the man for his horrible rules and stuff

20:23:09 mircea_popescu: devtome should prolly come here

20:23:17 rithm: kill whitey

20:23:18 mircea_popescu: rithm and giving him acne

20:23:39 TheNewDeal: I can't believe the brk-a bet is getting so much NO lately

20:23:49 TheNewDeal: I'm about to lay down some yes

20:24:16 mircea_popescu: what's it at even

20:24:23 fluffypony: there was a big no earlier today

20:24:26 mircea_popescu: lol 170 huh.

20:24:34 fluffypony: maybe Buffet is getting his cronies in on the action

20:24:37 mircea_popescu: i guess this is the various "vc" types making ezzy moneys ?

20:25:06 mircea_popescu: kinda funny considering my comments few days ago at that dude with the "30mn biggest investment", re how he couldn't get 20k btc for his 30mn

20:25:16 mircea_popescu: seeing the bitcoin trickle in twennies kinda makes my point for me i guess

20:26:01 fluffypony: biggest most investor investment

20:26:04 fluffypony: one for the ages

20:26:16 mircea_popescu: Just 1% of retailers&#39; traffic originating from #Social Media http://ow.ly/wZsZm

20:26:17 assbot: Just 1% of retailers' traffic originating from social media - Social Marketing - BizReport

20:26:19 mircea_popescu: the lol of all fucking time

20:26:27 mircea_popescu: imagine if they actually counted the ACTION traffic.

20:26:48 mircea_popescu: "reddit is important! being featured on the first page will slow down your servers and flood your support lines with inane babble"

20:26:53 fluffypony: jurov: I'm funding coinbr now, will you make sure MP clears it before he goes on holiday?

20:27:59 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell asciilifeform https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoBYEt3IgAAXKje.jpg

20:27:59 gribble: The operation succeeded.

20:28:22 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnxzaWsCIAEScbY.jpg << check it out, they're doing a new star trek

20:29:19 fluffypony: lulz

20:29:40 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3204576/

20:29:41 assbot: Status and Mating Success Amongst Visual Artists

20:29:41 gribble: The operation succeeded.

20:31:19 mircea_popescu: ahahaha this complements the earlier discussion with bounce splendidly : http://justsecurity.org/2014/05/16/power-kill-includes-power-detain-limits/

20:31:21 assbot: The Limits of the Logic that the Power to Kill includes the Power to Detain | Just Security

20:31:36 mircea_popescu: us-english speakers stuggling to come to terms with the ancient problem of quarter.

20:32:07 mircea_popescu: because fucktards have to rediscover anything and everything, and get to belabour under the curse of the notion that they're actually inventing things

20:34:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+]

20:37:30 mircea_popescu: http://dailyprincetonian.com/news/2014/05/at-columbia-suit-alleges-sexual-assault-investigation-discriminated-against-male-student/ for lulz

20:37:30 assbot: At Columbia, suit alleges sexual assault investigation discriminated against male student - The Daily Princetonian

20:41:22 jurov: fluffypony, i see. i can do direct deposit to mpex (>10btc), pls ask next time

20:41:31 fluffypony: oh

20:41:34 fluffypony: sorry

20:41:37 jurov: and anyone else, too

20:42:02 jurov: no problem, just to streamline it

20:47:05 mircea_popescu: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/05/19/data-pirates-caribbean-nsa-recording-every-cell-phone-call-bahamas/

20:47:06 assbot: Data Pirates of the Caribbean: The NSA Is Recording Every Cell Phone Call in the Bahamas - The Intercept

20:47:39 mircea_popescu: is this to acquire blackmail material because every judge and uni professor in the states takes their underage cocksuckers to the bahams ?

20:48:08 mircea_popescu: !up neilol

20:48:42 neilol: thank you

20:49:34 mircea_popescu: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/19/sec-omeally-idUSL1N0O510Z20140519

20:49:34 assbot: U.S. court faults SEC trial strategy against broker, tosses verdict| Reuters

20:49:54 mircea_popescu: this is pretty fucking uniquye, managing to get a jury verdict overturned on appeal

20:49:57 mircea_popescu: !up chainey

20:49:59 mircea_popescu: !up SuchWow

20:50:12 neilol: lucky bastard

20:50:13 neilol: imo

20:51:27 mircea_popescu: how do you reason ?

20:51:43 mircea_popescu: the documentary evidence was overwhelming, i have no idea how a jury found with the prosecutors,

20:52:00 mircea_popescu: and i have no idea how jury trials will survive this sort of bovine behaviour of the "general public"

20:54:10 mircea_popescu: in other news :

20:54:11 mircea_popescu: In a C-Span interview that aired Sunday, Federal Housing Finance Agency director Mel Watt said it isn?t his job to worry about shareholders of the two companies, for which his agency acts as conservator.

20:54:11 mircea_popescu: ?My responsibility in the conservatorship is not to the shareholders, really. So I don?t lay awake at night worrying about what?s fair to the shareholders,? Mr. Watt said. He went on to defend the arrangement under which the firms? profits are swept away to the Treasury Department.

20:55:36 neilol: I'll have to read it - i thought he was a retail broker

20:56:34 neilol: Yeah you are right - "on behalf of hedge fund clients" - responsibility burdon on him is almost nothing in this situation

20:56:57 neilol: I thought he was trading mutual funds on retail accounts

20:57:47 neilol: the PM at the hedge funds should have put a stop to him far before though

20:57:57 mircea_popescu: they sorta did but not really and back and forth

20:58:12 neilol: this is a last chance ditch effort, im surprised they even were able to make a case

21:00:13 benkay: grazie TomServo

21:00:27 mircea_popescu: eactly.

21:04:23 thestringpuller: +mircea_popescu> lmao thestringpuller tryin' to crib teh chan secretarial services << I'll gladly pay for the nice things we have!

21:04:50 thestringpuller: it's not my fault you provide useful things to the chan :P

21:04:53 mircea_popescu: anyway, enoy

21:04:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8433 @ 0.00089396 = 7.5388 BTC [-] {2}

21:05:03 mircea_popescu: enjoy omg where are my letters going

21:07:06 jurov: to argentina

21:18:00 rithm: http://whatthefuckshouldinamemychild.com/


21:18:13 rithm: i reaally like this web app

21:25:42 mircea_popescu: obamacare ?

21:27:27 *: fluffypony refreshes coinbr

21:28:02 jurov: i forgot to increase tx fee :/

21:28:14 fluffypony: lol

21:28:30 fluffypony: it's my fault, I should've asked before sending a relatively significant amount

21:29:08 moiety: easy answer to everything: manuls. eg1 where are my letters going? manuls ate them eg2 what the fuck should i name my child? manul

21:29:50 fluffypony: do I need to pour myself more wine?

21:29:51 fluffypony: Monero!

21:29:54 fluffypony: Manul!

21:29:55 fluffypony: that thing

21:29:59 fluffypony: too many Ms

21:30:47 moiety: i think manuls would be pro wine. there should be a wine called manul

21:31:19 fluffypony: lol

21:31:24 fluffypony: Chateu de Manul

21:31:28 fluffypony: 2008

21:32:02 moiety: obviously a red

21:33:21 fluffypony: cors

21:34:08 mircea_popescu: moiety so a manul came out of my chocolate truffle and fell into my wine glass.

21:34:22 mircea_popescu: fluffypony chateau you african you.

21:34:44 moiety: you have no option but to drink the whole glass quickly so it doesn't drown mircea_popescu

21:34:55 mircea_popescu: manuls don't drown

21:34:57 mircea_popescu: they manul

21:35:03 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: bottle of wine down here, so I will accidentally many letters no doubt

21:35:19 moiety: omg.... think of it.... a wine stained manul would be a pink manul!

21:35:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.095 = 0.38 BTC [+]

21:35:28 mircea_popescu: is there a manul manual yet ?

21:35:57 moiety: no but google asks me everytime i search for them, did you mean manual? -_-

21:36:03 fluffypony: lol

21:36:09 mircea_popescu: btw, how about a manul fur coat moiety ?

21:36:32 jurov: #caturday

21:36:44 moiety: thats actually why they are almost on the endangered list, they used to get hunted for their fur... brave fur people

21:41:56 pankkake: !jd mpif

21:41:57 assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 165.94796629 BTC; -0.32355556 BTC (-0.1946%) since last check 22h 12m 21s ago.

21:42:16 mircea_popescu: lalala

21:50:48 jurov: mircea, fluffy's stuff just got confirmed

21:51:53 jurov: btw, coinbr did have direct deposit feature, but ofc ppl rounded the sums and then came to irc to derp

21:52:14 jurov: so mp asked me to discontinue it

21:52:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5205 @ 0.00089503 = 4.6586 BTC [+]

21:56:50 jurov: gotta go afk... fluffypony, don't spend more than 10BTC till mircea does his thing, promise?

21:57:11 fluffypony: well I can't spend it till he does his thing

21:57:14 fluffypony: :-P

21:57:25 jurov: now you can

21:57:44 jurov: at least according to coinbr database :P

21:57:53 jurov: 'night

21:57:58 fluffypony: night

21:59:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20705 @ 0.0008938 = 18.5061 BTC [-] {2}

22:00:51 assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 27689 @ 0.00021725 = 6.0154 BTC [+]

22:02:53 assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 41000 @ 0.00021726 = 8.9077 BTC [+]

22:12:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.095 = 0.38 BTC [+]

22:12:03 mircea_popescu: mpex deposits flushed

22:12:39 fluffypony: tks mircea_popescu

22:12:54 fluffypony: I now give you permission to go on holiday :-P

22:15:44 mircea_popescu: lawl go pro ipo

22:15:44 mircea_popescu: omfg.

22:19:12 mircea_popescu: http://pando.com/2014/05/19/the-intercept-decides-entire-country-cant-be-trusted-to-know-that-america-listening-to-its-calls/

22:19:13 assbot: The Intercept decides entire country can’t be trusted to know that America is listening to its calls | PandoDaily

22:19:13 mircea_popescu: drama.

22:20:10 artifexd: jurov: My fault?

22:21:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00089556 = 8.6869 BTC [+] {2}

22:25:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02210011 = 0.1105 BTC [+]

22:31:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.0395 = 0.316 BTC [+] {2}

22:31:41 hanbot: howdy y'all

22:32:12 hanbot: mircea_popescu i see "your" a freedom fighter nao https://twitter.com/CarlosMaslaton/status/468470938292723712

22:32:12 assbot: /Mircea_Popescu I have just read your email exchanges with the SEC, completely impressive, your a freedom fighter champion, congrats!

22:43:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

22:44:13 mircea_popescu: hanbot haha cool.

22:53:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00089336 = 5.3155 BTC [-]

22:57:22 moiety: hi hanbot :]

22:57:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12827 @ 0.00089331 = 11.4585 BTC [-] {4}

22:57:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.095 = 0.76 BTC [+]

22:57:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.032 = 0.16 BTC [-]

22:58:13 hanbot: hiya moiety. how goes it?

22:58:56 moiety: all good here thanks, how are you?

23:01:23 mircea_popescu: !up RagnarsBitch

23:01:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00089579 = 3.1353 BTC [+]

23:02:30 hanbot: dandy, packing up and enjoying ample cookie breaks

23:07:39 moiety: where are you off to? i have to move house soon and i can't face packing yet

23:08:11 mircea_popescu: don't pack, go naked.

23:08:59 hanbot: hey, it works for hermit crabs :D

23:09:27 moiety: lol

23:12:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.00593727 = 0.1781 BTC [-] {4}

23:12:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0008961 = 6.3623 BTC [+] {2}

23:15:01 mircea_popescu: davout pankkake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOwgiu59neE

23:15:01 assbot: Hai Sictir! - YouTube

23:17:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0001198 = 0.2396 BTC [-] {2}

23:19:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00011761 = 0.2352 BTC [-]

23:23:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.4599 = 1.3797 BTC [+]

23:33:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00435 = 0.348 BTC [+] {2}

23:42:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.44104008 = 2.2052 BTC [-] {3}

23:46:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [+]

23:51:11 thestringpuller: where is fluffypony

23:51:14 thestringpuller: full of fluff