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00:01:24 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> basically if you drink more than a coupla liters in six hours (saturated) you're done. << Seems like a safe way to thin out some hamplanets, while preserving people who aren't quite HCFS addicts

00:05:38 punkman: drinking is not breathing it though

00:06:08 asciilifeform: let's call it... einsatzkola.

00:07:44 punkman: I do wonder what heliumkola burps sound like

00:07:48 asciilifeform: 'Self-help duo Lynne Rosen and John Littig, known for their monthly radio show "The Pursuit of Happiness," were found dead in their Park Slope apartment, suffocated with plastic bags and helium. Each left behind a note, the Daily News reports, but their bodies were not discovered for up to a week. The soft-spoken couple owned a life-coaching business called Why Not Now and preached a mission "designed to help foster and encour

00:07:48 asciilifeform: age your inner strengths, identify hidden and untapped resources, and put you confidently on the path to designing the life you've always wanted to live." Their websites are littered with quotes like "The secret to getting ahead is getting started"​ and "It's always too early to quit."'

00:07:50 asciilifeform: ^ win

00:08:07 asciilifeform: Why Not Now!

00:08:16 mod6: haha

00:09:11 mod6: s/The Pursuit of Happiness/The Pursuit of a Bag Over Your Head/

00:09:31 mircea_popescu: punkman this is true but in the particular case of co - it is very permeating.\

00:09:38 mircea_popescu: your gut will uptake most of it.

00:10:53 mircea_popescu: they look kinda like "that mainstream ugly bitch and that mainstream insecure hipster make a porno" cast.

00:11:51 mircea_popescu: Zack & Miri Make a Porno

00:14:25 asciilifeform: funnily enough, i just answered phone from an old phriend who needed phase diagram of $redacted. apparently libraries now lack basic reference dead tree, and the net - worthless

00:14:28 asciilifeform: for something so basic.

00:14:53 asciilifeform: go and find a heat of enthalpy !

00:16:20 asciilifeform: and speaking of the helium people, it is - think about it - a pretty high-tech suicide weapon

00:16:28 mircea_popescu: aha.

00:16:39 asciilifeform: (need hoses, pressure regulators, at least. not a spur-of-the-moment thing, like eating your nagant)

00:16:49 mircea_popescu: tho really, nox much better to asphyxiate with.

00:16:56 asciilifeform: laugh to death.

00:16:59 mircea_popescu: heck, people mostly do it by mistake

00:17:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, by then it's laugh AT death.

00:17:08 asciilifeform: like kary mullis (discoverer of pcr!) almost did

00:17:23 asciilifeform: (assistant found him with lips frozen solid. he was getting it straight from the tank!)

00:17:46 mircea_popescu: heh

00:17:51 asciilifeform: anyway imho the chick is hot

00:18:07 asciilifeform: more or less illustrative of the opposite of what i mean when i say that the chix in mircea_popescu's photos 'have no faces'

00:19:03 mircea_popescu: you only think this because she's 45

00:19:14 asciilifeform: http://www.lynnerosen.com << what's the story here? you have to be alive now or they pull your box from the rack ?

00:19:15 assbot: lynnerosen.com - Registered at Namecheap.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1jQSyFt )

00:19:16 mircea_popescu: back when she was of sexing age you'd have thought her faceless too

00:19:19 asciilifeform: (or did they let it lapse)

00:19:30 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly. all i have is this data point.

00:19:57 mircea_popescu: nltawwt

00:20:25 mircea_popescu: but all things consider, i'd rather the adult woman carry the lines i give her.

00:20:36 asciilifeform: paging pygmalion...

00:21:46 mircea_popescu: aha

00:22:04 mircea_popescu: 'fraid this is more a case of narcissus, but anyway.

00:22:17 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1303054 << paging your kindergarten chemistry teacher !

00:22:17 assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 23:41:21; BingoBoingo: Maybe put Nitrous Oxide in the fizzy drinks, sure makes most people a bit giggly, but worth it for the 1-0.3% of the population that becomes rage monsters on it. Much lulz potential there.

00:22:25 asciilifeform: no wants to dissolve in nonpolars !

00:23:06 asciilifeform: e.g. lipid

00:23:31 mircea_popescu: so make the cola oil rather than water based.

00:23:34 asciilifeform: and not no either

00:23:35 asciilifeform: but n2o

00:23:38 asciilifeform: dafuq

00:23:52 asciilifeform: and so you want something like cream

00:24:08 asciilifeform: (which is where you will typically find n2o in the kitchen shop !)

00:24:14 asciilifeform: see old thread re: same.

00:24:36 asciilifeform: (NO you will find in the gasenwagen.)

00:24:46 asciilifeform: right next to CO.

00:27:04 mircea_popescu: details, my dear doctor faustus1

00:27:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38939 @ 0.00050258 = 19.57 BTC [-]

00:32:15 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> so make the cola oil rather than water based. << Ether based

00:34:04 shinohai: http://www.securityweek.com/teen-hacker-says-he-cracked-cia-heads-personal-email-media <<< if true, then funny

00:34:05 assbot: Teen Hacker Says He Cracked CIA Head's Personal Email: Media | SecurityWeek.Com ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFhRr6 )

00:35:04 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (NO you will find in the gasenwagen.) << NO is nitric, but yes available at the kitchen shop, auto shop, and tooth shop

00:36:17 BingoBoingo: Auto shop though tends to adulterate it to prevent "abuse"

00:38:12 mircea_popescu: speaking of auto shops, http://36.media.tumblr.com/47bc5c75838eaee784f3bd1f272302f0/tumblr_npbxaxkun61ttrd9lo1_1280.jpg

00:38:13 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFicu3 )

00:55:20 asciilifeform: l0l, speaking of those faceless !

00:55:49 asciilifeform: spiffy knot work though.

01:02:39 BingoBoingo: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/19_10_11_unodcbriefing.pdf

01:02:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hOLkQV )

01:03:21 BingoBoingo: "Decriminalising drug use and possession for personal consumption is permitted by the international drug control conventions and is a key element of the HIV response among people who use drugs"

01:04:16 BingoBoingo: http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/finally-a-change-in-course-on-drug-policy

01:04:16 assbot: Finally – a change in course on drug policy - Virgin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1hOLw2u )

01:05:23 BingoBoingo: The BBC reports that it has now been formally withdrawn after pressure from ?at least one country?

01:07:21 mircea_popescu: lmao. the end of the fufcking world, when the empire's TAIL starts using imperial HEAD tricks

01:07:42 mircea_popescu: "these words don't say what you thought they did, they say what we want them to say, eat it up Washington!"

01:07:48 mircea_popescu: so so very 400 ad.

01:08:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21390 @ 0.00050258 = 10.7502 BTC [-]

01:10:09 asciilifeform: not to mention that 'decriminalize' is an idiot newspeakism

01:12:33 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not to mention that 'decriminalize' is an idiot newspeakism << A lot of this. Basically code for enforce with greater arbitratity and seize moar funds.

01:13:26 asciilifeform: it is merely the introduction of a new layer of chumps, 'lawful personal users' - who do not even need to physically exist to support new layers of 'moar studiez needed' mandarins, enforcer thugs, etc

01:15:01 asciilifeform: how 'lawful personal users' are to get their dope without contact with 'lawless impersonal' dope-dealing caste, remains undefined (because whole shebang is a joke)

01:22:33 BingoBoingo: At least there is another Empire out there fucking with this empire: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Japan_Factory_Ship_Nisshin_Maru_Whaling_Mother_and_Calf.jpg

01:22:35 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hONsbr )

01:23:15 asciilifeform: l0l 'legal research'

01:23:31 asciilifeform: is there a 'research' team which catches panda for the well-funded table ?

01:24:47 BingoBoingo: There better be.

01:25:19 BingoBoingo: I have to say though that Nisshin Maru might be my favorite ship in the ocean

01:37:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00050474 = 8.4544 BTC [+] {3}

02:00:34 BingoBoingo: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/rebound-relationship-with-pledge

02:00:36 assbot: rebound relationship with pledge ... ( http://bit.ly/1OPkjdl )

02:01:09 asciilifeform: 'There are a few simple seeming functions in libc which turn out to be quite complicated under the hood. You call a function expecting a simple result, but then libc runs off and opens a bunch of sockets to remote servers and chats them up. This makes setting up a robust sandbox difficult and error prone. (Wait, what? Why is ls creating sockets???)' << lulz

02:02:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114400 @ 0.00051378 = 58.7764 BTC [+] {8}

02:13:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45574 @ 0.00051988 = 23.693 BTC [+] {4}

02:35:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39226 @ 0.00052162 = 20.4611 BTC [+]

02:37:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22093 @ 0.00052256 = 11.5449 BTC [+] {2}

02:45:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41869 @ 0.0005023 = 21.0308 BTC [-] {4}

02:48:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12123 @ 0.00051103 = 6.1952 BTC [+]

02:53:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00052864 = 13.1896 BTC [+] {4}

03:00:38 adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0681V2X.txt

03:00:39 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3HJF )

03:00:40 deedbot-: accepted: 1

03:01:11 adlai: trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-10-2015#1300681 got run over

03:01:11 assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 19:08:35; mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0681V2X.txt

03:02:48 adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302335 << took a while, didn't we :P

03:02:48 assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 16:04:39; trinque: side note of yey people are trying to verify the thing, which is very important.

03:03:29 *: adlai still hasn't figured out deterministic newline munging in multideed bundles

03:05:54 adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303123 << not this thread again...

03:05:54 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 00:24:08; asciilifeform: (which is where you will typically find n2o in the kitchen shop !)

03:14:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0005299 = 5.7759 BTC [+] {2}

03:19:15 trinque: adlai: yeah later in that thread you'll see me chattering about fixing it

03:19:26 trinque: my parser was ignorant of \r\n

03:19:29 trinque: vs \n

03:19:34 trinque: did that one never get resubmitted?

03:19:42 trinque: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0681V2X.txt

03:19:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gi3HJF )

03:19:45 deedbot-: accepted: 1

03:32:22 adlai: now... two bundles, each with a double divideed. nice :P

03:53:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41969 @ 0.00052601 = 22.0761 BTC [-]

03:57:18 BingoBoingo: In other news... Apparently 200 pound girls abuse anorexia forums trying to lose weight? https://archive.is/Cu831

03:57:19 assbot: Please insult me hard. - The South Beach Diet - Forums and Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2XSHp )

03:58:02 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: refresh my memory, how did you get into the subject

03:58:11 mircea_popescu: he's trying to lose weight.

03:58:32 BingoBoingo: A bit of that. A bit of fuck reddit censorship.

03:59:38 BingoBoingo: Also now that I know cool black people and cool Jooz, need socially acceptable utternmenschen and the Food Stamp supermorbidly obese are kinda it.

04:00:35 mircea_popescu: oh i thought that part was gendered not social. ie, "what is the 1 in the 1 to 10 scale for women" rather than for people in general.

04:01:06 asciilifeform: 'If you cut me I don't bleed, I pour out AWESOMENESS!' << from BingoBoingo's link

04:01:13 BingoBoingo: !b 2

04:01:13 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0BEY21P.txt )

04:02:24 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> oh i thought that part was gendered not social. ie, "what is the 1 in the 1 to 10 scale for women" rather than for people in general. << This is why 'Murica is failing. Not enough mundane nouns are gendered

04:02:41 asciilifeform: not entirely relatedly, there is apparently a broadway musical about alexander hamilton. (for non-u.s. folks, a contemporary of george washington, famously killed in a duel.) so the inevitable, sacramental question: when do we get an equally duel-romanticized play about galois ?

04:03:12 mircea_popescu: Shawn Corey Carter (born December 4, 1969),[2] known by his stage name Jay Z (formerly Jay-Z),[3][4][5] is an American rapper, record producer, and entrepreneur. He is one of the most financially successful hip hop artists and entrepreneurs in America. In 2014, Forbes estimated Jay Z's net worth at nearly $520 million.

04:03:17 mircea_popescu: awww. that's not so much, is it ?

04:03:28 mircea_popescu: He is one of the world's best-selling artists of all time, having sold more than 100 million records, while receiving 21 Grammy Awards for his musical work, and numerous additional nominations.

04:03:29 mircea_popescu: dude...

04:03:40 BingoBoingo: Most of it came from apple buying out his startup lottery ticker

04:03:42 mircea_popescu: the curse of aging is that the world seems to keep getting smaller. srsly, that's it ?

04:03:44 BingoBoingo: *ticket

04:04:12 BingoBoingo: ;;google Beats by Dre Apple

04:04:13 gribble: Beats by Dr. Dre - Shop Beats headphones and speakers - Apple: http://www.apple.com/shop/accessories/beats; It's Official: Apple Adds Dr. Dre With $3 Billion Beats Deal - Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2014/05/28/apple-brings-dr-dre-on-board-with-official-3-billion-beats-deal/; Beats Product Service and Warranty | Beats by Dr. Dre: (1 more message)

04:04:30 mircea_popescu: this is a different identical fake hood dood isn't it ?

04:04:31 BingoBoingo: Jay-Z is not dre, but everyone buys the same lottery tickets

04:04:37 mircea_popescu: aok

04:05:02 BingoBoingo: Jay-z sings better. Dre plays with synthesizers better. Otherwise...

04:05:23 mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/5418b9936517317724b0136f409618d4/tumblr_nt0e7c6lfh1t0j8ebo1_400.gif << in other news, posture is everything.

04:05:24 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1hP1z0s )

04:05:25 mircea_popescu: for women.

04:06:12 mircea_popescu: alternative title, "videostudy in stress shear of the posterior fourchette"

04:13:36 asciilifeform: http://icrwhale.org << from BingoBoingo's link earlier. mega-l0l.

04:13:37 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2YooO )

04:13:51 asciilifeform: click 'english', invokes built-in googletranslate thingie

04:14:00 asciilifeform: 'What I came up with this investigation Whale.'

04:14:23 BingoBoingo: Nisshin Maru seriously best boat on the ocean.

04:14:28 asciilifeform: or hm, yet another identical button gives something like actual english.

04:14:39 asciilifeform: 'Harassment of whale research vessels is illegal'

04:17:09 mircea_popescu: what are they gonn a do, ask the us navy to shoot down the harasser ? :D

04:18:02 asciilifeform: http://icrwhale.org/gpandsea.html << apparently, take pictures. and lawsuits.

04:18:03 assbot: ICR : Harassment & terrorism ... ( http://bit.ly/1hP2Sw8 )

04:18:24 BingoBoingo: Japan also nearly has enough Navy to shoot harassers nao

04:18:44 *: mircea_popescu is finding a discussion of some 2009 "mass" (really, 4 people at a gym) shooter on tlp's blog quite informative.

04:18:52 mircea_popescu: "Imagine after tanning for a month and lifting weights, he met a girl at the gym who fell in love with him."

04:19:01 asciilifeform: sodini ?

04:19:07 BingoBoingo: ^

04:19:15 mircea_popescu: what the fuck ? WHAT would a woman fall in love with ? the guy is as vacuous as an ipad. he "does a good job" programming .net crap and tans.

04:19:17 mircea_popescu: that ?

04:19:22 mircea_popescu: yes him.

04:19:26 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/08/why_did_george_sodini_shoot_wo.html

04:19:28 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Why Did George Sodini Shoot Women? ... ( http://bit.ly/1hP326O )

04:19:58 mircea_popescu: how the fuyck is a woman supposed to fall in love with cubical fungus ?

04:20:50 asciilifeform: how with street fungus ?

04:20:52 asciilifeform: trading floor fungus ?

04:20:56 mircea_popescu: easy. incoherent.

04:20:58 asciilifeform: cockpit fungus ?

04:21:14 mircea_popescu: no see, im starting to understand a lot of things, or moreover : the tlp wash has put pieces in my head into a sense.

04:21:22 mircea_popescu: so : it's not narcissism that's the problem, not per se.

04:21:29 mircea_popescu: it goes deeper : coherence is the problem.

04:21:52 asciilifeform: 'consistency is the hobgoblin of the small mind' thing ?

04:21:59 mircea_popescu: yes, deeply coherent people APPEAR to be narcissists, and then it's easy to mistake THAT as driving the whole show. but it is not. narcissism is merely a defense mechanism.

04:22:07 mircea_popescu: keeping the over-coherent thing from explosion.

04:22:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform even deeper than that. the guy is so smooth, so flat, there is no possibility for a woman to get caught in anything.

04:23:00 mircea_popescu: it's not subjective (hobgoblin small mind etc), it is outright objective. he's so smooth you can drop him in the ocean and pick him up dry.

04:23:01 BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/07V4P64 << Spoiler alert for the depth of a certain rabbit hole exploration hinted at here, because Ashley Madison dump is boring

04:23:03 assbot: dpaste: 07V4P64 ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2YE75 )

04:23:03 asciilifeform: do we actually know the man ?

04:23:07 mircea_popescu: which is EXACTLY what he describes.

04:23:10 mircea_popescu: we do not know the man.

04:23:11 asciilifeform: or only his seppuku note

04:23:14 mircea_popescu: no one ever knows the man.

04:23:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118000 @ 0.00051753 = 61.0685 BTC [-] {6}

04:23:17 asciilifeform: so how do we know the smooth

04:23:42 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> so how do we know the smooth << When one spends too much time in MS .NET they become it

04:24:14 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a legitimate if complex question. i'll approach it from very, very far away.

04:24:34 mircea_popescu: why does the classical hero have to be flawed ? why not superman-perfect ?

04:24:41 mircea_popescu: to explain the love interest, that's why.

04:25:14 mircea_popescu: it never, to my knowledge, EVER worked on the silver screen as such. but the idea, even if never passibly implemented, still is valid

04:25:20 mircea_popescu: a sort of narrative bitcoin if you will.

04:25:45 mircea_popescu: so, why does t williams' pollitt junior drink ?

04:25:48 mircea_popescu: he could as well not drink.

04:25:55 mircea_popescu: ah, but you see, he drinks to forget. forget what ?

04:25:58 mircea_popescu: his father was gay too.

04:26:03 mircea_popescu: but the woman loves him. why ?

04:26:52 mircea_popescu: ah, that crazed fag hag liz taylor. sure. nevertheless, the story works BECAUSE the kid's not coherent.

04:27:38 asciilifeform: fanfic aficionados have a term, 'mary sue', for character who appears flawless and inspires loathing thereby

04:28:22 mircea_popescu: priscilla lane snubs eddie bartlett in the roaring twenties, and this is perceived as a visceral crime by the audience. why ?

04:28:47 mircea_popescu: why ? because the insipid lawyer is smooth ; cagney is clearly the one she was meant for. and we have no difficulty understanding panama smith's fixation.

04:28:52 asciilifeform: but how is the fungus man 'smooth' ? as far as i can see, he is one gigantic wrinkle, like a von koch snowflake

04:28:55 mircea_popescu: of course she'll die with him, she's caught.

04:29:25 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform explain to me the topology of the wrinkle in 1-dimensional space with a quantified rule =1.

04:29:37 asciilifeform: 1?!

04:29:40 mircea_popescu: yes.

04:30:10 mircea_popescu: (is this how you say it in english ? "function that measures distance", the geometric equivalent of the sorting function, rule)\

04:30:45 mircea_popescu: it should be, after all there's ruler

04:31:09 asciilifeform: metric

04:31:12 mircea_popescu: ah

04:32:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20850 @ 0.00052086 = 10.8599 BTC [+]

04:32:49 mircea_popescu: see, let's go on a tangent.

04:33:08 mircea_popescu: tlp observes "what the fuck is with the kids today, they all wanna be black ?" "they don't wanna be black, thgey wanna be masculine".

04:33:13 mircea_popescu: this is correct, exactly.

04:33:24 mircea_popescu: why is black = masculine ? why, because black needn't wrinkle.

04:33:41 mircea_popescu: why does black not need wrinkle ? because so many blacks are in jail, black women can't afford to choose.

04:33:52 mircea_popescu: EXACTLY for the reason superman could be a ball. in 19fucking50.

04:33:56 mircea_popescu: you know what had just happened ?

04:34:11 mircea_popescu: "he's perfect in every way". sure he is, susie.

04:34:38 mircea_popescu: works in demographic imbalance. otherwise, you gotta make some sense, somewhere, somehow.

04:37:14 asciilifeform: ball?

04:37:25 mircea_popescu: like a bearing ball.

04:39:41 mircea_popescu: at which point, i'll definitively confuse the matter by going on the least expected tangent :

04:40:00 mircea_popescu: the churchly doctrine has always been that absent the possibility of sin, and the wilful rejection of sin, salvation is impossible.

04:40:35 mircea_popescu: the REASON they said this, and stuck to it, is the correct observation that absent a very certainl possibility you'll fucking kill her, from which you wilfully abstain, the woman's not even slightly interested.

04:40:58 mircea_popescu: (chiefly because you'll probably not give her children, which has its own knot of evolutionary logic behind it)

04:41:32 mircea_popescu: and now : how the fuck is superman going to provide the manifest possibility he's killing the woman ?

04:42:08 mircea_popescu: indirectly! http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-twu-luv-torture/#selection-105.0-105.36

04:42:09 assbot: The twu luv torture on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2Z6Cm )

04:42:23 mircea_popescu: "the evil guys" who are obviously and necessarily an affixion upon him, provide it!

04:42:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60000 @ 0.0005219 = 31.314 BTC [+] {3}

04:44:37 mircea_popescu: har har http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2116/144/1600/Lois_Lane-025-00.0.jpg

04:44:39 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2ZaCd )

04:44:52 mircea_popescu: (and unrelatedly one for BingoBoingo : http://pm1.narvii.com/5843/39edac1d9bcba66ba6f117b134930b7c329986f9_hq.jpg )

04:44:53 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2ZaSI )

04:45:13 BingoBoingo: lol

04:49:20 mircea_popescu: jesus these things are so badly drawn...

04:49:44 mircea_popescu: it's really hard to go through america's main cultural product and not come to the notion that the country was born with down syndrome.

04:51:37 BingoBoingo: It's a problem

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04:56:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2463 @ 0.00052328 = 1.2888 BTC [+]

04:56:53 mircea_popescu: i''ticker

04:56:57 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

04:56:58 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 264.62, Best ask: 264.69, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 264.62, 24 hour volume: 10628.81221829, 24 hour low: 262.35, 24 hour high: 266.99, 24 hour vwap: None

05:01:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00052836 = 26.4708 BTC [+] {4}

05:06:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26251 @ 0.0005299 = 13.9104 BTC [+]

05:13:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00052542 = 16.0779 BTC [-] {3}

05:29:15 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/09/are_there_really_so_many_peopl.html <<< win

05:29:17 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: "Are there really so many people with such troubles in your country to make such medicine such an important matter?" ... ( http://bit.ly/1NRUZVe )

05:29:20 mircea_popescu: someone from romania wrote him.

05:30:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49800 @ 0.00053027 = 26.4074 BTC [+] {3}

05:57:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00053053 = 17.6136 BTC [+] {3}

06:00:54 BingoBoingo: The concise explanation of why parents who aren't poor and even some who are don't let their kids play 'Murican football

06:04:35 BingoBoingo: Because why put your kids in the position to suffer likely murder to people doping with shit that works when... you can tell them no for at least a few years.

06:07:44 BingoBoingo: The point people are chemically engineering themselves routinely to be better at the sport in school is the point where the sport had went beyond what makes sense as a school sport.

06:09:39 mircea_popescu: from what i could gather, the sort of kid that plays football comes from the same pool of kids that "sing rap" or get shot in turf wars.

06:09:51 mircea_popescu: if you're gonna go, might as well go whatever way it happens

06:10:32 BingoBoingo: Of course.

06:11:17 BingoBoingo: It is the exact demographic now. The demographic that used to produce boxers like Ali now produces 300-400 pound sprinters

06:13:04 BingoBoingo: Just now the demographic's parents are either Denzel Washington in Training Day or Madea sitting on the school board

06:14:54 BingoBoingo: The thing is he has to consider getting on gear because the sport he chose inevitably means he will be smashing heads with people who did

06:15:56 BingoBoingo: "If you can you must"

06:16:03 ben_vulpes: > sings rap

06:16:07 *: ben_vulpes barfs

06:16:46 ben_vulpes: b-a can't distinguish the jigga man from dre, thestringpuller

06:16:56 ben_vulpes: whaddaya make of that

06:17:00 BingoBoingo: I know alf has an aversion to the American Football talk, but the sad thing is that was likely one of the saner people getting into the game

06:17:17 mircea_popescu: can you ?

06:17:52 mircea_popescu: and what is it, "recites" ? he does with the mouth.

06:18:35 BingoBoingo: I just gotta say Jay-Z's girl Beyonce better consider a calorie deficit before she ends up like Kim Karsashian who bloated up.

06:19:16 mircea_popescu: there's no saving the 30yo black woman. she'll balloon, tis the genes.

06:20:10 BingoBoingo: She can keep it in her ass. Older black Women manage that. That is good. Kim though was not black and just went full FUPA.

06:21:42 mircea_popescu: diff story there.

06:21:46 BingoBoingo: Yeah

06:23:28 mircea_popescu: This is how famous people die: they take stimulants to party all night, and sleep very little. Finally, on day 3 they're too wired to fall asleep naturally, so they take a few extra sedatives (because they feel so wired.) However, the full dose of the pills doesn't happen until after they fall asleep; the sedation is worsened even further by stimulant withdrawal; and, of course, the natural exhaustion that comes with

06:23:28 mircea_popescu: partying for three days and not sleeping.

06:23:29 BingoBoingo: Just if Jay-Z was doing really good he'd be able to cycle them out

06:23:35 mircea_popescu: aaaand again ballas is exactly correct

06:23:39 mircea_popescu: that's precisely how famous people die.

06:24:15 BingoBoingo: Like Elvis

06:24:24 mircea_popescu: i'd guess about half of them.

06:24:45 BingoBoingo: Though hints in his papers suggest he aspirated on the vomit too

06:28:42 mircea_popescu: "Mass murder is the violent expression of being a pussy. The people killed are almost never the people who actually hurt you-- they are the nameless collateral damage of your fear of confrontation. Every person who Sodini felt hurt him is still alive. Every person he shot was nothing but polite to him, if they had any contact at all. This is almost universally true about mass murderers. In other words, the people w

06:28:43 mircea_popescu: ho you think hurt you most got punished the least."

06:28:58 mircea_popescu: word eh.

06:29:27 mircea_popescu: the problem with this safe, sanitized, society-first view of individual action is that it deliberately avoids the problem of class.

06:30:09 mircea_popescu: what if you mass murder accountants ? irs accountants ? black women ? people working at the southern poverty law center ? congressmen ? etc.

06:30:25 mircea_popescu: but let's not talk about that.

06:32:00 BingoBoingo: Can't talk about that. "Ideation" in psych lingo.

06:41:27 mircea_popescu: anyway. tlp's idea about how to report the stuff in the media to prevent its repeating is entirely correct (and also exactly what china does, which he doesn't notice - tho he notices correctly that it's what the dod forced everyone to do for the wtc bombings)

06:42:11 mircea_popescu: the probolem with THAT is that it only works for as long as the press is firmly attached to the public mind, but the more it works the more tenouous it makes that attachment. so... notrly.

06:44:03 BingoBoingo: Kind why qntra works like BitBet as a truth finding mechanism, also time weighted

06:45:40 BingoBoingo: 2nd article, canonical by nao http://qntra.net/2014/10/gaw-miners-revealed-as-the-jizz-moppers-supreme/

06:45:41 assbot: GAW Miners Revealed As The Jizz Moppers Supreme | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1VWjEwn )

06:47:25 BingoBoingo: Similarly Death sentence http://qntra.net/2014/10/altcoin-exchange-cryptsy-partners-with-vogogo-and-digital-btc/

06:47:26 assbot: Altcoin Exchange Cryptsy Partners With Vogogo And Digital BTC | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQpIdt )

06:48:10 mircea_popescu: lol all this shit that supposedly at some time existed.

06:48:51 BingoBoingo: Seriously

06:51:24 BingoBoingo: Then grew to this beaut by thestringpuller so soon http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/

06:51:25 assbot: The Hard Fork Missile Crisis | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQpTpb )

07:12:42 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

07:12:48 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 265.51, vol: 23648.99455804 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 264.08, vol: 7255.33172 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 267.04, vol: 10445.75366445 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 275.154075, vol: 30694.19260000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 265.60156, vol: 64.00913653 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 264.81235, vol: 107.7485845 | Volume-weighted last average: 269.685730278

07:15:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00052758 = 7.3861 BTC [-]

07:41:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24350 @ 0.00052739 = 12.8419 BTC [-] {3}

08:01:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44901 @ 0.00052857 = 23.7333 BTC [+] {4}

08:19:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00053221 = 2.6078 BTC [+]

08:47:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00053222 = 7.7438 BTC [+]

09:48:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30366 @ 0.00053221 = 16.1611 BTC [-] {2}

10:00:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00052695 = 16.678 BTC [-] {3}

10:06:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.00052486 = 14.04 BTC [-] {2}

10:07:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26030 @ 0.00053206 = 13.8495 BTC [+] {3}

10:21:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32411 @ 0.00052892 = 17.1428 BTC [-] {3}

10:25:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31873 @ 0.00052364 = 16.69 BTC [-] {4}

10:52:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00052951 = 6.9895 BTC [+]

10:53:26 jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303159 << instead of all this shitgnomery they could allow administrator to exempt these sockets from nr_fileno limit

10:53:26 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 02:00:34; BingoBoingo: http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/rebound-relationship-with-pledge

10:56:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00053419 = 12.3932 BTC [+]

10:59:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29249 @ 0.00053419 = 15.6245 BTC [+]

11:08:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93701 @ 0.00053542 = 50.1694 BTC [+] {8}

11:11:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44200 @ 0.00053704 = 23.7372 BTC [+]

11:21:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.00053622 = 29.0631 BTC [-] {2}

11:32:42 shinohai: http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/an-israeli-hummus-cafe-is-giving-50-per-cent-off-to-jews-and-arabs-who-eat-together--WyxvWQdJdl

11:32:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KlSLpx )

11:33:14 shinohai: "An increase in violence was reported as Jews begam kidnapping Arabs just to obtain the discount."

11:40:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00053704 = 4.5648 BTC [+]

11:58:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00053704 = 6.901 BTC [+]

12:08:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54913 @ 0.00054189 = 29.7568 BTC [+] {3}

12:55:21 jurov: http://tpbit.blogspot.sk/2015/10/liquid-when-sidechains-say-fuck-it.html heh

12:55:22 assbot: ThePiachu's Bitcoin Blog: Liquid - when sidechains say "fuck it" ... ( http://bit.ly/1OG24bu )

13:07:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00053718 = 13.7518 BTC [-]

13:23:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00053718 = 4.2974 BTC [-]

13:27:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50850 @ 0.00053718 = 27.3156 BTC [-]

13:32:35 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302797 <-- so who is the idiot here? the person saying what they were told to say on video, or the person watching it and drawing conclusions based on nothing?

13:32:35 assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 20:37:15; mircea_popescu: commenter on fraudsters has this to say : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndshbH3qZ6Y

13:33:37 funkenstein_: for more on this topic, go watch Rem? Gaillard prank videos, and think for a while about who is really being pranked

13:35:16 punkman: I don't think I'd buy gold coin off random guy on the street either

13:35:44 funkenstein_: "Americaner sind h?re dumm! Ich habe im Youtube gesehen."

13:36:07 punkman: though, it is a fact that guy on the street does not know what an ounce of gold looks like or what it's worth

13:36:47 funkenstein_: likely true, though a video made by some people you don't know doesn't verify it

13:43:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32194 @ 0.00053512 = 17.2277 BTC [-] {5}

13:43:50 funkenstein_: first they came for the derps. but I was not a derp, so I said nothing.

13:47:06 funkenstein_: there must be something lost in translation. How is some random mentally broken corpsemuncher anything like a prof. wrestler, or a real wrestler, or a gangster, or a gangster rapper?

13:51:48 funkenstein_: and related later, how many people do you know that paid for a recording of Jay Z? But oh, I saw 100million written down so, lets just believe that shall we?

13:52:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00052835 = 21.6624 BTC [-]

14:03:32 funkenstein_: anyway "reasonable doubt" - "friend or foe" is worth a listen :)

14:25:52 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-10-2015#1302745 <-- wai wut?

14:25:52 assbot: Logged on 19-10-2015 20:03:53; Xplosionist: I mean, I'm very glad we have people that do it. Most of whom are actually nice and do a good job. But, wow, I would never want to deal with as much crap as you have to put up with fore that job.

14:25:56 funkenstein_: ;;ud ftp

14:25:57 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FTP | FTP. Fuck the police. Coined in early 1998 by a C.B. local. It is the only true definition of this word and all the othere can f*ck off. I'm sick of these pigs harassing ...

14:38:13 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303288 <-- hanging out of context comparatives can mean anything you want and thus wind up meaning nothing at all

14:38:13 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 04:33:24; mircea_popescu: why is black = masculine ? why, because black needn't wrinkle.

14:38:50 funkenstein_: i'm thinking of something bigger, can you guess what it is?

14:38:59 funkenstein_: it was a hydrogen atom

14:39:16 funkenstein_: another common example: "lesser animals"

14:39:46 funkenstein_: if the speaker had any actual information to convey, they forgot to complete the sentence

14:40:09 funkenstein_: or something like "girls are better"

14:40:55 funkenstein_: unless the "at what" is specified, it's just a phrase used for effect

14:47:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00052992 = 10.1215 BTC [+] {2}

14:53:10 funkenstein_: this concludes my driveby bitcoin-asseting, I'm off now to go cut bill-sized newspaper strips :)

14:59:47 jurov: !up analmaster

15:05:07 thestringpuller: ;;later tell funkenstein_ I've bought a lot of Jay-Z albums. The Black Album on vinyl is sick. Jay-Z is good at moving albums tho...

15:05:07 gribble: The operation succeeded.

15:06:00 lobbes: so cable company just called me; 'Because you're such a loyal customer, I'm going to give you this exclusive *unadvertised* offer! For MORE money per month, I can give you faster internet!"

15:14:30 lobbes: Me: "No thanks"

15:14:30 lobbes: CableDude: "May I ask what's holding you back?"

15:14:30 lobbes: Me: "I don't want to spend more money"

15:14:30 lobbes: CableDude: "Sure I understand, but this IS an exclusive offer. So can I sign you up today?"

15:14:30 lobbes: Me: "No, bye"

15:19:48 mircea_popescu: lol

15:23:59 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/09/kanye_west_and_the_video_music.html << reading this thing i come to the realisation that having a GREAT kids show on tv is the worst fucking thing you could ever do. the muppets was probably better than anything else that was on tv for three decades, and contrary to what everyone imagined, it DIDNT help kids.

15:24:00 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Kanye West And The Video Music Awards ... ( http://bit.ly/1GgbisA )

15:24:10 mircea_popescu: in fact, it might actually be a large part of why said kids are broken in the head.

15:25:19 mircea_popescu: but in any case... "The audience-- people, Twitter, performers, Leno, The View, the President-- are can't help but comment on the show. They don't understand that they are actually part of the show. They aren't getting paid, but neither were Statler and Waldorf. And they were the funniest part of it."

15:25:25 mircea_popescu: this is a problem.

15:26:43 mircea_popescu: jurov << instead of all this shitgnomery << eh, the problem with exceptions is that they have to be managed.

15:27:14 jurov: if the alternative is to add new syscall per exception...

15:29:32 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell funkenstein_ what is your definition of "nothing" ? be the careful you wish to see in this world. for instance as an exercise : compare the "nothing" you falsely claimed with the "something" that was actually there, see if the conclusions ACTUALLY DRAWN by the people you read were in fact commensurate with the something that there was, IRRESPECTIVE of what your kneejerk [based on nothing] interpretation of

15:29:32 mircea_popescu: what they MIGHT HAVE said is.

15:29:33 gribble: Error: "based" is not a valid command.

15:29:48 mircea_popescu: oic.

15:31:53 *: mircea_popescu reads tpbit thing, is unimpressed. oh you mean people wanna blather about nothing rather than do work because a) it's easier and b) they don't wanna do anything anyway, they just wanna appear so and so ? mmmkay.

15:37:35 mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> first they came for the derps. but I was not a derp, so I said nothing. << no community with the derps. see http://fraudsters.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/#selection-421.189-425.0 ; see http://fraudsters.com/2015/on-how-i-ended-up-suing-phoenix-nap-llc-on-how-ira-r-cadwells-mom-stephanies-going-to-lose-her-chula-vista-home-on-how-marcus-bohn-is-going-to-catch-a-lot-of-shit-for-that-on-assorted-othe

15:37:35 assbot: Facebook sends traffic!!11eleven on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlQi31 )

15:37:36 assbot: On how I ended up suing Phoenix NAP, LLC ; on how Ira R. Cadwell's mom Stephanie's going to lose her Chula Vista home ; on how Marcus Bohn is going to catch a lot of shit for that ; on assorted other drama. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlQkI6 )

15:37:36 mircea_popescu: /#selection-217.0-221.245 ; see http://fraudsters.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/#selection-685.0-685.123 and the whole fucking corpus already. when "they" come for the derps i'll be fucking there shooting pregnantg mothers in the uterus and stepping on baby derp necks.

15:37:37 assbot: On how the factored 4096 RSA keys story was handled, and what it means to you. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NlQkIc )

15:37:51 mircea_popescu: there is no community with the derps. a world without them is a better world, under ANY circumstances.

15:39:52 mircea_popescu: in fact, the reason prison is better than the web (no, it's not "the internet", fucking reddit facebook and washpo aren't "the internet") is preciely that they fuck up the derps in prison.

15:42:03 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303415 << at this point i firmly believe there's something lost ; in the reading. in other words, im vaguely persuaded you do not actually have the ability to read (yes, you can follow the letters, but it's not the same). so earnestly, in full view of this censure of your intellectual faculties, without any attempt to hide from it or to pretend an imaginary, unwarranted s

15:42:03 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 13:47:06; funkenstein_: there must be something lost in translation. How is some random mentally broken corpsemuncher anything like a prof. wrestler, or a real wrestler, or a gangster, or a gangster rapper?

15:42:04 mircea_popescu: uperiority over it, go read the fucking thing again and answer this question yourself. HOW is it that they are exactly the same ?

15:43:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52500 @ 0.00052832 = 27.7368 BTC [-]

15:46:35 mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> But oh, I saw 100million written down so, lets just believe that shall we? << that's not even it. the tlp article has the story, and it's rather obvious : they ACCEPTED to be extras in HIS movie. that's what it is. rihanna, of course (of course ? madonna didn't do that for ritchie, not really ; angelina jolie didn't do that for brad pitt ; moreover nobody told them to get the fucking crazy out of their

15:46:36 mircea_popescu: heads and OF COURSE already, it's their guy which means he owns them), but that other chick what's her name, and oh really, "nobody's cavalcade is coming tarram tarram tarrarram tam tam" ? what the fuck is this shit, put the nigger back in the prison he squirmed out of an the white women back in the fucking ofcourse.

15:46:52 mircea_popescu: because otherwise, OF COURSE some random derp is gonna be the symbol, and in this sense "100 mn" is purely symbolic. it's not the number, and you are drastically naive to contest the actual number. the point is somewhere else.

15:48:32 mircea_popescu: "oh, but women don't wanna be extras in a man's movie just for being women". tough.

15:48:44 mircea_popescu: im sure alf doesn't wanna be an engineer either, he wants to be a hunter. what of it ?

15:48:53 mircea_popescu: the jobs available are the jobs available and you fucking like them.

15:49:24 mircea_popescu: "oh, but i'm gonna be the exception". sure you will baby. heck, maybe she actually will be. THE EXCEPTION. geddit ?

15:51:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111100 @ 0.0005312 = 59.0163 BTC [+] {7}

15:53:13 mircea_popescu: or was it beyonce not rihanna ? anyway.

15:56:34 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303449 << this is true, yeah.

15:56:34 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 15:27:14; jurov: if the alternative is to add new syscall per exception...

16:16:54 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/images/suicide%20rates%20by%20age%20and%20race%202004.jpg << now that's an interesting graph.

16:16:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pxn8Ba )

16:20:54 punkman: "Google’s growing problem: 50% of people do zero searches per day on mobile"

16:22:05 mircea_popescu: because why would they ? if they know the topic they don't need to search google, what the fuck is that you know, "i would like to see what the republican party says, i wonder if they have a website". on the other hand if you don't know it, why would you trust google. "i wonder if thye have a republican party in bali. o look, republicanpartyinbali.blogspot.com comes up first."

16:32:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34928 @ 0.00052768 = 18.4308 BTC [-]

16:33:53 deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Hey Edmonton Police Service, what part of private property don’t YOU understand? - http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/20/hey-edmonton-police-service-what-part-of-private-property-dont-you-understand/

16:38:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71750 @ 0.00053316 = 38.2542 BTC [+] {5}

16:38:29 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

16:39:12 ascii_field: http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/19/san-fran-middle-school-cancels-student-elections-because-too-many-white-people-elected

16:39:13 assbot: School Elections Thrown Out After Too Many Whites Elected | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1PxqYud )

16:41:48 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303461 << only in su prison - in america, prison (at least the fed kind) is sorta like su псиxушка

16:41:48 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 15:39:52; mircea_popescu: in fact, the reason prison is better than the web (no, it's not "the internet", fucking reddit facebook and washpo aren't "the internet") is preciely that they fuck up the derps in prison.

16:42:02 ascii_field: (live and die under microscope)

16:42:11 mircea_popescu: mebbe.

16:42:18 mircea_popescu: how many actual convicts do you know tho ?

16:43:03 ascii_field: directly? none. friend-of-friend - a few

16:44:08 mircea_popescu: this isn't worth much, is it ?

16:44:45 mircea_popescu: incidentally, it's not hard to meet convicts. there's a program you can sign up for, host one getting out of prison for a few months.

16:44:53 mircea_popescu: sort-of like uber for convicts. or was it airbnb ?

16:45:14 ascii_field: no. i do have a secret pasttime of reading just about anything written by prisoners, in all times and places, with emphasis on modern americans. but i cannot pretend to be an expert.

16:46:08 ascii_field: 'Van Haren went on to say that she is considering a variety of fixes to the problem, including appointing several new positions in order to ensure more minorities are represented without kicking out those who actually won the election.'

16:46:08 mircea_popescu: yeah but of interest here would have been the convicts that don't write.

16:46:25 ascii_field: 'the spartan speaks with his sword.'

16:46:57 mircea_popescu: i don't get this nonsense. who the fuck gave her the autority to overturn the election.

16:47:10 ascii_field: it's a toy election

16:47:23 mircea_popescu: you can't have a toy election anymore than you can have a toy pregnancy.

16:47:27 ascii_field: instituted by the school to begin with, as i understand

16:47:30 mircea_popescu: or a toy prayer. or a toy dela with the devil.

16:47:34 mircea_popescu: these things are.

16:47:45 mircea_popescu: tough. still not how it works.

16:47:46 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: funnily enough they tried 'toy pregnancies' in american schools

16:47:59 mircea_popescu: im sure they did. i would say overal there's no stupid thing the us haven't tried

16:48:08 ascii_field: and at any rate this is a beautiful election. teaches the childrenz how ~actual~ usg works

16:48:12 mircea_popescu: in line with the "sane measure to be applied just as soon as all alternatives exhausted"

16:48:18 mircea_popescu: quitew.

16:51:03 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303480 << iirc we did this..? google is for error messages, lines of code, quotes from published documents generically.

16:51:03 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 16:22:05; mircea_popescu: because why would they ? if they know the topic they don't need to search google, what the fuck is that you know, "i would like to see what the republican party says, i wonder if they have a website". on the other hand if you don't know it, why would you trust google. "i wonder if thye have a republican party in bali. o look, republicanpartyinbali.blogspot.com comes up first."

16:51:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74750 @ 0.00052768 = 39.4441 BTC [-] {3}

16:51:59 mircea_popescu: ascii_field do you happen to have link to log where we discuss idiocy of "bayesian" approaches to stuff ?

16:52:08 mircea_popescu: and yes, we did this.

16:53:12 ascii_field: it came up on a few occasions iirc

16:54:29 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-11-2014#927735 << the thread i recall

16:54:29 assbot: Logged on 18-11-2014 19:17:32; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the connection << organized abuse of statistical concepts for satanic purposes

16:55:01 mircea_popescu: ha! ty.

16:55:20 mircea_popescu: btw, you ever read that article by tlp about how "asking another is the best bias reducer" ?

16:55:37 ascii_field: prolly

16:55:45 ascii_field: at one point i swallowed the whole tlp

16:55:54 ascii_field: but most of it got gc'd

16:57:05 mircea_popescu: the experience he discusses (afaik this is amply documented) is the strange situation that if an idiot guesses, he's off by X, if he "tries" to think about it, ie, meditates on the answer and why it could be wrong he improves the guess (reducing he errror)

16:57:21 mircea_popescu: but if he simply asks another idiot and averages the two out, he reduces the error 3x

16:57:49 ascii_field: this only works when there is a signal.

16:58:21 ascii_field: (the canonical experiment involves a jar full of coins or the like. but if you were to put the jar behind a door, then no signal. only noise.)

16:59:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45412 @ 0.00052665 = 23.9162 BTC [-] {4}

17:04:05 mircea_popescu: right.

17:04:18 mircea_popescu: well, i got my link about 500x faster than if i searched for it. somehow.

17:06:48 ascii_field: i did make use of #b-a search

17:07:02 ascii_field: when such a thing exists for a subject, it is clearly the winner, yes

17:07:58 ascii_field: i dare say that 99% of my search itches are entirely scratched by grep on my own disks

17:08:06 ascii_field: the tricky bit is the remainder.

17:09:11 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

17:09:17 mircea_popescu: problem is i didn't know what to search for.

17:09:31 ascii_field: then it isn't a search problem...!

17:10:19 mircea_popescu: quite.

17:10:25 ascii_field: 'i need to compute the volume of hydrogen in this bottle' 'compute volume, take the pressure....' 'i've never seen the bottle!'

17:10:32 ascii_field: *mass of

17:11:30 mircea_popescu: it IS a search problem. "i want X". "can you put X in X' ?" "no but i can tell it to alf"

17:11:50 mircea_popescu: somehow working together it was 1 minute, i am confident it'd have been half a fucking hour of my life otherwise.

17:11:55 ascii_field: meatsearch.

17:11:57 mircea_popescu: aha

17:12:10 ascii_field: helps if your phriendz have good memory

17:12:10 mircea_popescu: something google'll never do worth a crap.

17:12:20 mircea_popescu: helps foremost if variety speak.

17:12:29 mircea_popescu: (note that the question wasn't "in" vs. but yet...)

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17:15:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00052801 = 8.105 BTC [+]

17:18:02 ascii_field: http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1002.pdf <<<>>> http://dpaste.com/0FPGSGH

17:18:11 assbot: dpaste: 0FPGSGH: got HW crypto? On the (in)security of a Self-Encrypting Drive series ... ( http://bit.ly/1jRRD7M )

17:20:04 ascii_field: (lolzy. built-in key generated at factory; other key is entered through a winblowz proggy!)

17:22:30 mircea_popescu: heh

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17:25:14 ascii_field: and as if this were not enough,

17:25:16 ascii_field: 'Comparing this plot to 10000 4-byte values retrieved from /dev/urandom ( Figure 6 ), gives us a strong

17:25:16 ascii_field: hint that the RNG of the JMS583S is not cryptographically safe, showing clear patterns in Figure 4.'

17:25:31 mircea_popescu: ahahaha kk

17:28:43 ascii_field: see, i am at a loss here as to the logic.

17:29:16 ascii_field: it is one thing to subtly, secretly sabotage a thing.

17:29:33 mircea_popescu: there isn't a logic in that sense

17:29:45 ascii_field: it is another where it is encrusted with so many mines, of such variety, that you can hardly make out what the thing was (a bridge? a railroad ? what?)

17:30:24 mircea_popescu: this is how nature works

17:31:03 ascii_field: aha. the trees do not get together and decide 'there is room for three oaks'

17:31:38 mircea_popescu: quite.

17:31:47 mircea_popescu: or "it would make sense for the ivy to be over there"

17:33:01 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'And it is because the real estate prices in Beijing etc have made it so that young women are unaffordable.' << what does this mean?

17:33:14 ascii_field: they are not shipped in from mars, no. so how is it that 'they are unaffordable' ?

17:33:15 mircea_popescu: which part ?

17:34:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00052834 = 8.1364 BTC [-]

17:34:37 ascii_field: how does it work? politburo hoards all the womenz ?

17:34:41 mircea_popescu: ah. suppose you have 10k soviet fuckholes, and 11k dudes want one. 10k dudes pay 10k per fuckhole each, and spend the time alternatively fucking the hole and laughing at the 1k.

17:34:58 mircea_popescu: suppose they're 10k american fuckholes. 11k dudes want one, on which basis 100k more dudes are made to think they want one

17:35:18 mircea_popescu: 3k people pay 1.5mn each per fuckhole, have no time to do anything but run arround trying to service the 2.8mn they owe

17:35:29 mircea_popescu: 207k people sit around depressed because no fuckhole.

17:35:31 mircea_popescu: see ?

17:35:42 ascii_field: to whom do they pay ?

17:35:52 mircea_popescu: to ibm.

17:35:59 mircea_popescu: what "pay" ? money doesn't enter into this.

17:36:05 mircea_popescu: money is not a THING

17:36:13 mircea_popescu: they... just... pay.

17:36:50 ascii_field: so this is more like the 'pay' you pay in auschwitz, work until you drop with the hope that you get moved down, and not up, in the chimney queue ?

17:37:14 ascii_field: and the gurlz play the equivalent of the role of chocolate bars ?

17:37:18 mircea_popescu: i guess so

17:37:18 ascii_field: (or cigs)

17:38:05 mircea_popescu: notably, the 10k fuckholes aren't "more valuable" in either scenario. they ARE however LESS UTILIZED in the second.

17:38:13 mircea_popescu: so in the only sane paradigm, the latter is actually more impoverished.

17:38:27 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, in the "value is what people want" paradigm, the former is incredibly poor.

17:38:39 ascii_field: thing is, a situation like this is impossible without barbed wire & guards (in one form or another)

17:38:44 mircea_popescu: not so.

17:38:48 mircea_popescu: people are stupid for free.

17:38:54 ascii_field: who prevents the utilization ?

17:39:01 mircea_popescu: barbed wire and guns are more of a sign that things are improving than anything.

17:39:04 ascii_field: if the resource is not actually scarce

17:39:09 mircea_popescu: be worried when no barbed wire and guns, like the us 60s.

17:39:14 mircea_popescu: stupidity.

17:39:31 mircea_popescu: why aren't you all the things you aren't doing, like putting your cock in the mouth of girl sitting across the table ?

17:39:39 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

17:39:40 mircea_popescu: didn't see any barbed wire voalettes

17:39:53 ascii_field: barbed wire largely works on the expectation.

17:40:01 mircea_popescu: no. barbed wire does nto work, period.

17:40:13 mircea_popescu: it is there to JUSTIFY one's own lassitude, even as that becomes socially inacceptable.

17:40:28 mircea_popescu: you understand this ? it doesn't DO anything. it's there so the fucktards can BLAME IT for who they are.

17:40:38 mircea_popescu: like the people who "stayed in statal employment" cca 1992.

17:40:53 mircea_popescu: who exactly kept them there ? why not go into business ? work for businessmen ?\

17:41:02 mircea_popescu: "best be safe". sure. "barbed wire" aha.

17:41:29 mircea_popescu: barbed wire, like "nuclear weapons" scl is a TOTEM.

17:41:38 mircea_popescu: infantry cuts through it faster than infantry can deploy it, think about that.

17:42:19 ascii_field: this works because infantry is a machine (yes) not man. i.e. soldier hasn't the choice of 'i don't feel like it'

17:42:33 mircea_popescu: more importantly - soldier doesn't havfe the choice of "i'm too good for this"

17:42:38 ascii_field: so he is really still boxed in by 'barbed wire' - just not the wire you see in front of him

17:42:52 mircea_popescu: the notion of freedom you carry most closely approximates death.

17:42:55 ascii_field: soldier is in no sense the example of 'man impervious to wire'

17:43:02 ascii_field: if he were, he would shoot own officer & go pirating.

17:43:10 mircea_popescu: but pirating is no different.

17:43:27 thestringpuller: I was under the impression a soldier is nothing more than a political tool.

17:43:40 thestringpuller: That is, a soldier's only purpose is to "complete the mission".

17:45:03 mircea_popescu: anyway, it is strictly possible soldier actually believes in the war and his side. there's nothing wrong with this.

17:46:00 ascii_field: obligatory...

17:46:01 ascii_field: 'One of the essential experiences of war is never being able to escape from disgusting smells of human origin. Latrines are an overworked subject in war literature, and I would not mention them if it were not that the latrine in our barracks did its necessary bit towards puncturing my own illusions about the Spanish civil war. The Latin type of latrine, at which you have to squat, is bad enough at its best, but these were

17:46:01 ascii_field: made of some kind of polished stone so slippery that it was all you could do to keep on your feet. In addition they were always blocked. Now I have plenty of other disgusting things in my memory, but I believe it was these latrines that first brought home to me the thought, so often to recur: ‘Here we are, soldiers of a revolutionary army, defending Democracy against Fascism, fighting a war which is about something, an

17:46:03 ascii_field: d the detail of our lives is just as sordid and degrading as it could be in prison, let alone in a bourgeois army.’ Many other things reinforced this impression later; for instance, the boredom and animal hunger of trench life, the squalid intrigues over scraps of food, the mean, nagging quarrels which people exhausted by lack of sleep indulge in.'

17:46:16 ascii_field: (mr o)

17:46:27 mircea_popescu: mr o never was a soldier,\

17:46:35 mircea_popescu: and i would suspect he was never intimate with a woman, either.

17:46:47 ascii_field: in most people's understanding of the profession - he was a soldier.

17:46:54 mircea_popescu: and had sex, sure.

17:47:11 ascii_field: so now 'that wasn't soldiering' and 'that wasn't sex' ?

17:47:22 ascii_field: i thought it was ~my~ job to mystificate like this!

17:47:32 mircea_popescu: soldiering it was, but his protestations make it obvious he didn't reallyt have any business there.

17:48:00 ascii_field: this was true of perhaps all but a handful of folks on eastern front

17:48:13 mircea_popescu: see, all the other dudes are there for whatever reasons - he's there because of who he wants to be. "the sort of guy who fights in the civil war - if only the latrines weren't barbed wired"

17:48:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00054114 = 9.2535 BTC [+] {3}

17:48:34 ascii_field: a good number of people were there for identical reason as mr o

17:48:36 mircea_popescu: and he wants a girl - if only the women would understand how great a sense of humor he has.

17:48:56 mircea_popescu: sense of humor, you know ? there's a reason all the frustrated dudes on forums picked this from a sea of random crap.

17:49:16 mircea_popescu: sense of humor. aka faux hipster irony. in other words, a facility with the faux.

17:49:23 mircea_popescu: i wonder why women don't dig in!

17:49:25 ascii_field: ^ now this never made any sense to me

17:49:45 ascii_field: i suspect there is a 'cargo cult' aspect - they can see other people laugh, and say 'i could also laugh!'

17:49:50 mircea_popescu: and sure, a bunch of boys get married because who they want to be.

17:49:56 mircea_popescu: it is generally hoped that in this they also BECOME

17:50:01 mircea_popescu: mr o didn't, best i can tell.

17:50:22 ascii_field: become ?

17:50:27 mircea_popescu: yes.

17:50:48 ascii_field: this is why we disagree on 'them fools think they're too good'

17:51:02 ascii_field: mr o did not think he were 'too good.' he tried to become a limonov. and failed.

17:51:29 ascii_field: ergo honesty is better - if you are constitutionally unsuited to being limonov, be someone else

17:51:31 mircea_popescu: the irony here, true, unadorned irony of the greek sort, is that the champion of the faux, out of a misguided desire for authenticity metastasized out of his own problems with the faux and handles thereof, stuck to the infantile version instead of individuating into the adult.

17:52:09 mircea_popescu: the big secret being that juveniles have no soul. they're not individuals, they're the zerg creep.

17:52:27 mircea_popescu: they individuate out of this, maybe, into adulthood. ironically, adults are apparently a lot more similar than the adolsecents are.

17:52:36 ascii_field: (although limonov is prolly not the metric here, as he was almost entirely the same animal as orwell - complete with 'ritual' visit to a war, even got to fire a rifle, yes! cummed in his pants)

17:52:42 mircea_popescu: this could, apparently, be misinterpreted as a reduction of individuality. but it'd take a teen to make the mistake.

17:53:32 ascii_field: how is this a mistake?

17:53:58 ascii_field: when ben franklin wrote that 'most people die at 25 but aren't buried till 75' he was describing a very real thing.

17:54:14 mircea_popescu: hehehe. mno.

17:55:08 mircea_popescu: lemme see if you ever had this experience. was it ever the case that you enjoyed a product, only to be confronted with some idiot enjoying the same product for the "wrong reasons" ?

17:55:24 ascii_field: like microscope-hammer ?

17:55:33 ascii_field: e.g., bitcoin ?

17:56:00 mircea_popescu: suppose you like cohiba because it tastes good, and you're at a party and this chick you used to fuck DELIBERATELY introduces her current derp, who goes on a rant about how he loves cohiba and did you see that commercial ? maks him feel like who he really is!11

17:56:20 mircea_popescu: and there she is, the cat, with her smile that deserves a caning just for that. she knows what she's doing, quite exactly. so what now ?

17:56:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24558 @ 0.00052641 = 12.9276 BTC [-] {6}

17:56:59 ascii_field: my garbage collector kicks in long before i can get to this point.

17:57:04 mircea_popescu: mine doesn't.

17:57:17 mircea_popescu: so : we can sit right here and smoke the same cigar for different reasons altogether.

17:57:22 mircea_popescu: SEEMINGLY a reduction in individuality.

17:57:27 ascii_field: how ?

17:57:31 mircea_popescu: in point of fact, individuality is not a matter of appearance.

17:57:31 ascii_field: there are not so many cigars

17:57:41 mircea_popescu: because to the adolescent it seems like the same thing.

17:57:47 ascii_field: everybody is stuck smoking it for different reasons

17:57:52 mircea_popescu: life, also.

17:58:22 ascii_field: everyone pushes same buttons, but for different reasons...

17:58:30 ascii_field: this seems blindingly obvious

17:58:40 mircea_popescu: quite. and how much of one's passion with rare keyboards is driven by a fear of this issue ?

17:58:51 ascii_field: personally - zero

17:59:01 mircea_popescu: but you see how this'd work.

17:59:06 ascii_field: to the point that just about everyone i know in meatspace bought what i had...

17:59:20 ascii_field: and you'd say i am supposed to react to that ..?

17:59:21 mircea_popescu: so imo, franklin was speaking of a different thing.

17:59:49 mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> how is this a mistake? << see there. i don't say such.

18:00:14 ascii_field: (i am told there is actually a subculture of 'hipster keyboards' but they are not collecting 1980s workhorses but actual oddity art objects, of mahogany, ...)

18:00:31 mircea_popescu: what franklin spoke of was a different time. a time when adulthood was unavoidable, and as such lazy people simply succumbed to the hollow form. "hey, if no kid can tell me from any other adult, why bother."

18:00:55 mircea_popescu: "i just work here."

18:00:59 ascii_field: and now it is avoidable ?

18:01:06 mircea_popescu: quite avoidable.

18:01:35 ascii_field: how?

18:01:39 ascii_field: for a rockefeller kid, perhaps

18:01:42 ascii_field: but for plebe?

18:02:17 ascii_field: he 'grows up', which means he no longer wakes up and thinks 'what shall i do to amuse myself' but 'off to the salt mine' and when comes home 'what do i eat and have i enough spare change?' and then tired, and then again a day of living death

18:02:21 mircea_popescu: just like that, go to school, take a job that's "not the real you", on it goes.

18:02:44 ascii_field: is auschwitz man 'the real him' ?

18:02:51 ascii_field: or is there something under the stripes

18:02:54 ascii_field: that might be let out ?

18:03:06 mircea_popescu: adolescence is not childhood. the child wakes up with what SEEMS "what shall i do to amuse himself", except to him it';s a dealdy grind.

18:03:20 mircea_popescu: but the adolescent wakes up with "i wonder what insane demands will my chosen identity put on me THIS TIME"

18:03:30 ascii_field: i never did or saw either

18:03:32 mircea_popescu: there's good reason adolescents hate waking up

18:04:27 mircea_popescu: obviously everyone at auschwitz thought it temporary.

18:04:41 ascii_field: one way or another - it was..

18:04:59 mircea_popescu: heh.

18:05:30 ascii_field: the folks who came to think that 'this is the real me now' threw themselves on the wire

18:05:43 mircea_popescu: ironically, auschwitz has a LOT more in common with the "boost self esteem" version of us schools than with actual education.

18:05:53 mircea_popescu: it was in fact exactly the same : an exercise in esteem engineering.

18:06:12 mircea_popescu: as a result, no amount of pain suffering or violence could have matured the individual. on the contrary - it drove infantilization.

18:07:01 mircea_popescu: meanwhile you don't even need much caning to get a willing slave into a sane head space.

18:07:17 mircea_popescu: caning. what's that even ? barely noticeable biologically.

18:07:17 ascii_field: because you cheated by using a willing slave to begin with

18:07:26 mircea_popescu: always cheat.

18:07:47 mircea_popescu: if your solution does not include cheating what even makes you think it's a solution at all!

18:07:48 shinohai: Your enemy sure as hell cheats.

18:08:00 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: recall our conversation re: wunderwaffen ?

18:08:03 ascii_field: same idea.

18:08:11 mircea_popescu: how so ?

18:08:26 ascii_field: 'a proper solution includes cheating'

18:08:41 mircea_popescu: ah, aha.

18:08:48 ascii_field: (which is to say, massively disproportionate roi)

18:15:39 lobbes: !up ascii_field

18:16:12 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:16:16 ascii_field: 'Another, even better, way that can be executed pre-authentication was found later. In fact, when looking deeper into the firmware code we noticed every time the status VSC is called, the raw RNG bytes are masked with a static value. This static 4-byte value, 0x271828af, is xored with the 4-byte RNG output. Further this value is xored with the last 4-byte SY N value before sending the value to the host computer. Using the

18:16:16 ascii_field: Algorithm 4, we can unmask the 4-byte values returned in a status VSC response to reveal ”raw” RNG bytes from the hardware side. Since this is done pre-authentication, any attacker can generate this from any locked drive.'

18:16:23 ascii_field: ^ for fuxxsake

18:24:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111952 @ 0.00052603 = 58.8901 BTC [-] {3}

18:31:37 mircea_popescu: heh

18:35:10 gabrielradio: http://pastebin.com/m74CNzNv

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18:38:56 gabrielradio: one of the best articles of fraudsters imho

18:39:40 mircea_popescu: embrayage eh ?

18:39:58 mircea_popescu: from embray. works.

18:41:25 mircea_popescu: " what a hottie of a secretary " << no. pointedly not. what a miracleworker they employ in the front desk.

18:42:59 gabrielradio: oh, i thought it was "buna" in the other sense

18:44:02 ascii_field: 'how many connections and interfaces they have for every communication device I would want to use' << l0l, srsly!!? 'come to us, we have thicknet and token ring!!'

18:44:18 ascii_field: did this also get munged in translation?

18:46:02 mircea_popescu: not through any fault of his. it's what the text says, on account of it being written in romanian for romanians.

18:46:15 mircea_popescu: ie, lots of businesses still use paper archival exclusively.

18:46:31 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:47:15 mircea_popescu: also lots of proprietary gunk. "stop sending docx, it is NOT USEFUL"

18:47:23 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: rumour has it there are still usg facilities that have problems with the newfangled electric things. fbi headquarters (the brutalist monster death start in washington) has, i'm told, ethernet snakes on the floor

18:47:36 ascii_field: *death star

18:47:38 mircea_popescu: so do i.

18:48:05 ascii_field: i mean, ones hundreds of metres long

18:48:12 ascii_field: the sort that one normally stuffs behind drywall

18:48:50 mircea_popescu: i don't need any cable where i can't see it nor anything but cable tyvm.

18:49:07 ascii_field: mircea_popescu's flat must be a very merry place

18:49:13 ascii_field: no raised floor even ?

18:49:19 mircea_popescu: no raised floor.

18:49:53 mircea_popescu: i guess i gotta show this now

18:50:05 thestringpuller: how do the slave girls not trip over the wires?

18:50:14 mircea_popescu: jumprope in heels.

18:50:25 ascii_field: thestringpuller: if i had to guess - he nails'em to the wall, as i do

18:50:33 mircea_popescu: nope.

18:50:48 ascii_field: to the ceiling ?

18:51:47 mircea_popescu: ok ima take some pics a sec

19:02:54 mircea_popescu: ascii_field http://fraudsters.com/2015/a-tale-of-two-breakfasts-or-the-whores-broth/

19:02:55 assbot: A Tale of Two Breakfasts, or, The Whore's Broth on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1W2MtlA )

19:02:55 mircea_popescu: see ?

19:03:36 ascii_field: what's this

19:05:51 mircea_popescu: my floor.

19:06:04 mircea_popescu: no cables. see ?

19:06:07 ascii_field: aha.

19:06:16 ascii_field: l0l cisco box. mircea_popescu took it off a dead nazi, or what.

19:06:40 mircea_popescu: :D

19:07:09 mircea_popescu: i had the fucking box packed specially for a monitor lifter.

19:07:30 mircea_popescu: exactly the right height. all the useful engineering cisco ever did.

19:07:39 ascii_field: l0lz

19:09:30 ascii_field: looks not so different from my desk, except that i can't bring myself to eat there

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19:10:13 mircea_popescu: oh, i didn;t eat it there. i was just mixing it as we had the discussion.

19:12:00 ascii_field: didn't expect to see a spaniard kbd

19:14:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40850 @ 0.00053509 = 21.8584 BTC [+]

19:17:35 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/09/jay-z_is_a_genius.html << this shit is beautiful.

19:17:36 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Jay-Z Is A Genius ... ( http://bit.ly/1PxOSpg )

19:17:44 mircea_popescu: He's dressing himself in red lines, tempting you to see if they're real or not.

19:17:45 mircea_popescu: If you are tempted to look more deeply (if you're watching it, it's for you)-- like the smitten girl does-- you'd see this appearance first, then through it: "if you got to know him, you'd see he's really a...!" And then you'd pat yourself on the back for having intellectual courage to not judge by appearances! But you've been fooled by the commercial art illusion, thinking that because you saw through the illusion, th

19:17:45 mircea_popescu: erefore the deeper level must be authentic.

19:17:46 mircea_popescu: Those who don't come to it from exactly the right perspective are infuriated, "this guy is a douchebag!" You think you see something more real than she does, but you aren't supposed to see more deeply-- she is. You are supposed to be infuriated-- that's why she looks more deeply. She doesn't like him, she likes what liking him says about her. She likes what your hating him says about her.

19:17:51 mircea_popescu: "How the hell come she can't see through this poser?" She does see through it, you don't. She sees something fake, then something "real" underneath, and falls for him; you see something fake, stop there, and hate him.

19:17:54 mircea_popescu: That's exactly what he wanted, both times.

19:17:56 mircea_popescu: the meaning of "red lines" to be found in the article previous to the quote.

19:17:59 mircea_popescu: but he's EXACTLY right.

19:18:22 mircea_popescu: he could have a ball ravishing teenagers. in fact, possibly the blog hiatus is the direct result of his having figured this out

19:19:17 deedbot-: [fraudsters] A Tale of Two Breakfasts, or, The Whore's Broth - http://fraudsters.com/2015/a-tale-of-two-breakfasts-or-the-whores-broth/

19:19:54 mircea_popescu: !up funkenstein_

19:20:05 funkenstein_: thanks :)

19:20:24 funkenstein_: aha i was not missing translation, just ignorant

19:20:37 funkenstein_: big lurch was not an allegory, but a real rapper.. thanks ;)

19:20:49 mircea_popescu: ;)

19:21:56 funkenstein_: as to the youtube vid stuff, who knows maybe Mark Dice has some worthwhile stuff

19:22:08 funkenstein_: seems like more of an Alex Jones than an Rem? Gaillard

19:22:29 mircea_popescu: who even knows. my lack of time/patience for teh youtube is certainly to my detriment

19:24:39 funkenstein_: the guy wrote a "resistance manifesto" a decade or so ago

19:24:46 mircea_popescu: alex jones ?

19:25:12 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:25:14 ascii_field: !s crank bait

19:25:16 assbot: 29 results for 'crank bait' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crank+bait

19:25:24 funkenstein_: Mark Dice

19:25:44 funkenstein_: crank bait seems likely :)

19:27:09 funkenstein_: a quick scan shows a lot of references to Christianity and Satan

19:27:22 mircea_popescu: is the guy notable other than "forced youtube to undo a ban" ?

19:27:42 funkenstein_: i had never heard of him but hey, I also hadn't heard of Big Lurch

19:28:16 mircea_popescu: nobody heard of big lurch, kinda the point.

19:39:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46050 @ 0.00053279 = 24.535 BTC [-] {3}

19:41:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15258 @ 0.00053593 = 8.1772 BTC [+] {3}

19:41:58 ascii_field: 'The MD is always 16 bytes here because it's always MD5.'

19:42:04 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: guess from where.

19:42:10 mircea_popescu: hw "crypto" ?

19:42:18 ascii_field: gpg 1.4.10.

19:42:26 ascii_field: g10/seskey.c

19:42:28 mircea_popescu: agagaga wut

19:42:33 ascii_field: have phun.

19:42:37 mircea_popescu: oh the session keys. myeah.

19:42:52 ascii_field: the pkcs1, yes.

19:42:58 ascii_field: used for all ops.

19:43:32 mircea_popescu: not depended on tho. but yes.

19:43:36 mircea_popescu: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x209.html << for extra lulz.

19:43:37 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jS4uqq )

19:43:38 mircea_popescu: "concepts".

19:44:02 mircea_popescu: "In PGP and GnuPG, the public-key cipher is probably the weaker of the pair. Fortunately, however, if an attacker could decrypt a session key it would only be useful for reading the one message encrypted with that session key. The attacker would have to start over and decrypt another session key in order to read any other message."

19:45:25 ascii_field: interestingly, rfc3447 (section a.2.4) allows other hashes, up to sha512

19:45:30 ascii_field: but gpg went with md5.

19:45:47 mircea_popescu: coincidentally, im sure.

19:53:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00053606 = 10.882 BTC [+]

19:56:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29053 @ 0.00053279 = 15.4791 BTC [-]

19:57:16 lobbes: !up ascii_field

19:59:53 mircea_popescu: "But I want to be a ladies man like Don Draper. Back then it was easier, because affairs were more acceptable."

19:59:53 mircea_popescu: No they weren't. Leaving aside morality, cheating on your wife means that you haven't fully connected to her, or have lost some of that connection. You don't have to be Don Draper to pull that off. "Well, I want to be as suave as he is, I want to pick up girls like he can." It's the same disconnectedness. You could do it, too, then you'll lose the ability to be deeply connected to someone. You can't do both sim

19:59:53 mircea_popescu: ultaneously.

19:59:54 mircea_popescu: ahgagaga.

20:00:03 mircea_popescu: and why not ? "because it wouldn't be fair to the working man" ?

20:02:15 mircea_popescu: "we're all equal and equally the same and thus therefore clearly - either the H binds to another H or to the end of a C or to something wait, C doesn't exist. EVERYONE HAS ONE VALENCE AND THE WORLD IS MADE OF HYDROGEN"

20:02:33 mircea_popescu: sure gramps. early history called, they need you back there three seconds after the big bang.

20:05:52 deedbot-: [fraudsters] Here's what you don't know or understand about Facebook : everything. - http://fraudsters.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/

20:07:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28697 @ 0.0005292 = 15.1865 BTC [-]

20:53:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.0005359 = 3.9657 BTC [+]

20:55:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.0005318 = 16.1135 BTC [-] {3}

20:59:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52900 @ 0.00053787 = 28.4533 BTC [+] {5}

21:04:58 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IUl7n7PaaY

21:04:59 assbot: JJ DOOM-Banished (Beck Remix) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1M69BAg )

21:06:47 punkman: http://fraudsters.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/ << hah

21:06:48 assbot: Here's what you don't know or understand about Facebook : everything. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1M69PXV )

21:32:43 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

21:33:11 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303835 << what are we looking at, in that pic ?

21:33:11 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 20:05:52; deedbot-: [fraudsters] Here's what you don't know or understand about Facebook : everything. - http://fraudsters.com/2015/heres-what-you-dont-know-or-understand-about-facebook-everything/

21:34:04 mircea_popescu: the other b-a

21:34:28 ascii_field: don't recall any dark-skinned folk in that b-a

21:34:33 mircea_popescu: or, if you prefer, a transcript of the chicken coop session on "things and the world"

21:34:38 ascii_field: (except for a few airplane pilots)

21:34:50 mircea_popescu: nono. the other forum, where stupid people talk.

21:34:55 ascii_field: Ah

21:35:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.0005306 = 16.4486 BTC [-] {3}

21:35:20 mircea_popescu: it's not even a written medium, not really.

21:35:26 ascii_field: live from the sewercamz?

21:35:46 mircea_popescu: except nobody calls them that. live from SOCIAL MEDIA.

21:35:48 mircea_popescu: the real one.

21:35:51 ascii_field: incidentally you can get very spiffy endoscope, 10 or more metres cable, for 20 or so usd

21:35:56 ascii_field: put in sewer.

21:36:01 ascii_field: anywhere.

21:36:24 mircea_popescu: bring surveillance state to rats, too ?

21:36:35 mircea_popescu: problem is rats are a lot smarter than their human counterparts. they're immune.

21:37:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36224 @ 0.000529 = 19.1625 BTC [-] {3}

21:37:46 ascii_field: immune?

21:38:35 mircea_popescu: yes. you can surveillance them until you fall over, they're gonna do whatever they did before.

21:38:46 ascii_field: ah

21:38:49 ascii_field: in that sense - yes.

21:38:52 mircea_popescu: you can run a bunch of tv specials about "ratcism", they're still gonna do exactly what they did before

21:38:53 mircea_popescu: etc.

21:39:06 mircea_popescu: 0 feedback, which puts them WAY ahead of what your AVERAGE human being achieves.

21:40:39 deedbot-: [Qntra] Former GAW Supporters Promote Perpetual Energy Scam - http://qntra.net/2015/10/former-gaw-supporters-promote-perpetual-energy-scam/

21:40:59 ascii_field: l0l!!!

21:41:01 ascii_field: steorn!

21:41:03 ascii_field: still exists!

21:41:17 ascii_field: that's gotta be some kind of longevity record..

21:41:25 BingoBoingo: Seriously

21:41:30 ascii_field: it isn't in any sense 'new' either

21:41:54 mircea_popescu: you see the irony of PERPETUAL energy scam ?

21:42:57 BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> it isn't in any sense 'new' either << New is failed Altcoin scammers resorting to it

21:44:27 ascii_field: BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, other aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-XL1201-LISP-MACHINE-/221915599560

21:44:28 assbot: RARE Vintage Computer Symbolics XL1201 Lisp Machine | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1M5xwJO )

21:44:46 ascii_field: ^ this is the box amex used to keep entire dc of

21:44:53 ascii_field: (fraud detector heuristic)

21:45:27 BingoBoingo: Very cool

21:46:08 mircea_popescu: "In keeping with this development, sometime in the future cord bloods will be taken routinely from birth and used to delineate the individual's DNA so that genetic information will be readily available under emergency conditions to assure proper assessment of violent people. Hence, a patient presenting with an episode of violence and a history to support that will have their DNA contrasted with norms to determine if th

21:46:08 mircea_popescu: ey have a predisposition to aggression and violence..."

21:46:41 mircea_popescu: this from a study on shit, that doesn't even halfway hold up to any sort of scrutiny : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/more_on_amygdala_anxiety_and_m.html

21:46:43 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: More On Amygdala, Anxiety, and MRIs ... ( http://bit.ly/1Go8xVD )

21:46:55 mircea_popescu: but as he points out, "we've agreed, it's just what's done".

21:47:59 mircea_popescu: the "humanist" war on humanity continues.

21:49:05 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at sanity ranch : punch an enlightened douchebag today. the fact Maya Angelou, diane keaton, Nancy Reagan et all haven't died with a cock shaped icepick through their eyes is bad enough.

21:49:11 ascii_field: their eternal fantasy is, unsurprisingly, 100% yield of homo redditicus ~at birth~.

21:49:35 mircea_popescu: the eternal fantasy is, "omnivore basically means herbivore, rite ?"

21:49:40 ascii_field: aha.

21:50:06 mircea_popescu: kinda why it's so important to rape and kill them.

21:50:20 mircea_popescu: rape, for the wails, kill, for the evolutionary considerations.

21:53:05 ascii_field: to borrow from old west, 'ain't room enough in town for the both of'em' - the humanist and humanity, that is.

21:54:40 mircea_popescu: in point of fact, there's no room in attention for the thing and its copy, which is why isms are for the stupid and the poor.

21:54:45 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303871 <<< BadBitcoin "threatened" to ruin me on twitter for pointing out their support for GAW.

21:54:45 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 21:40:39; deedbot-: [Qntra] Former GAW Supporters Promote Perpetual Energy Scam - http://qntra.net/2015/10/former-gaw-supporters-promote-perpetual-energy-scam/

21:54:56 shinohai: It resulted in a block. I'm scared.

21:55:02 mircea_popescu: what's that supposed to mean shinohai ?

21:55:29 mircea_popescu: lolk/

21:57:25 shinohai: I dunno, I tweeted something some time ago about them being no better than scammers for their support of GAW, they threatened to have me removed from twitter, etc.

21:58:20 mircea_popescu: no but i mean, "ruin you on twitter".

21:58:31 mircea_popescu: whassat ? por favor deje su "amen".

21:59:00 shinohai: I'm at a loss on that one too. Not like I can't just make another friggin account, or that I even care what they think, etc.

21:59:06 mircea_popescu: oh right right, i guess im ruined in fetlife (bdsm ?) because they banned some random people just in case we were connected. lolk.

21:59:16 shinohai: De verdad no se, son imbeciles.

22:01:00 thestringpuller: When did facebook /wind 17

22:01:08 mircea_popescu: aaand ethereum is back to doing it's 10% a day loss dance. 0.00166 now

22:01:13 thestringpuller: >:(

22:02:15 ascii_field: http://i.imgur.com/uHx2JS2.gifv

22:02:16 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1M5BIcx )

22:03:13 mircea_popescu: idiot. somebody really does not understand flow huh ?

22:03:19 ascii_field: aha.

22:03:26 mircea_popescu: what did he THINK was going to happen ?\

22:03:32 ascii_field: think?

22:03:53 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

22:04:03 mircea_popescu: "oh, im just going to drive this plow against the fluid front, creating a wave off center and all will be well because..."

22:04:07 ascii_field: thinkin's for them eggheads. the spartan - speaks with his truck!

22:04:12 mircea_popescu: ahok.

22:04:36 mircea_popescu: this spartan drunk with his truck.

22:05:28 jurov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-Y7MAASkg

22:05:29 assbot: Eagles - Get Over It (With Lyrics) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GoazFh )

22:06:25 jurov: ^ i can nominate it to b-a anthem

22:07:13 ascii_field: i thought we already had, horst wessel

22:07:24 ascii_field: or am i confusing with pete_dushenski's eagle.

22:07:51 jurov: eh, pete's trying to paint us fourth reich or whatevs

22:08:39 mircea_popescu: mostly unrelated, http://38.media.tumblr.com/ab8bf534fd82e83da51ab0afbaf2b078/tumblr_nd3ggsc8Rq1tlw46uo1_500.gif

22:08:40 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GoaQIw )

22:09:51 ascii_field: l0l, so fond of back door!

22:10:25 mircea_popescu: im trying to cater to both heterosexual and homosexual prurient interest.

22:10:51 ascii_field: 'we'll make trucks over five tonnes switch sides first!'

22:10:57 mircea_popescu: :D

22:11:23 mircea_popescu: but it is seriously teh traditional panacea for female/passive element of youthful complexion with midrif sores.

22:11:25 mircea_popescu: "get over it".

22:11:31 mircea_popescu: i suspect it's where the thing got started.

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22:14:49 jurov: mircea_popescu: sorry to disappoint you, male model isn't more fully visible

22:15:01 mircea_popescu: huh ?

22:16:14 jurov: maybe it's just me but i don't like porn zooming all in to genitalia and spending minutes there, especially in this time of huge HD screens

22:16:21 jurov: and the pic is halfway there

22:17:06 mircea_popescu: omaigawd you watch pr0n like a girl. what do you want next, fucking scents ? feelings ? CONTEXT ???

22:18:07 mircea_popescu: the hd is there so you can see what a good job the bikini wax salon did on her perineal raphe.

22:19:25 mircea_popescu: (idle thought : if internet porn "objectifies women" / "contains experts", where's all the articles expertly discussing the relative value of a whorl on said raphe ? what do you think, do women with twin hairline do better in bed than the normal (single line) ?

22:20:31 mircea_popescu: where's the whole whorl - and - sexuality discussion anyway!

22:20:53 ascii_field: in the same shangri-la as the little vs big-endian debates.

22:21:20 mircea_popescu: no. those actually happened.

22:21:22 mircea_popescu: this did not.

22:23:00 mircea_popescu: (but, to keep things sophisticated - the raphe is more visible in males than in females ; also males lack a penis bone, much like the horse lacks a clavicle. it has been suggested that THIS is what the adam rib story is all about - god took man's penis bone and left a cvasi-scar.)

22:29:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38854 @ 0.00052679 = 20.4679 BTC [-]

22:32:41 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/the_neurobiology_of_wisdom.html << this shit's epic. "Note that they dropped the "Saint." Meanwhile, there's no problem referring, a few sentences later, to Gandhi as "Mahatma." That's okay, because no educated person actually thinks Gandhi is a saint, but there are still plenty of numbskulls who need to be reminded that Aquinas isn't."

22:32:42 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Neurobiology of Wisdom ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmE0qs )

22:34:08 mircea_popescu: the trully horrid Meeks and Jeste "study" on "wisdom" and that fucktard Henry Nasrallah's repackaging of the same are splendid anecdotal points to drive this entire "the difference between a libertard and a religious bigot is that the religious bigot is actually anachronistic, and in this sense MORE CULTURALLY ADVANCED."

22:34:22 mircea_popescu: that's right : voting obama is NOT more advanced than being a redneck. it is LESS so.

22:43:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25658 @ 0.00052679 = 13.5164 BTC [-]

22:53:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8668 @ 0.000533 = 4.62 BTC [+]

23:00:44 deedbot-: [Qntra] Illinois and Pennsylvania Credit Ratings Lowered - http://qntra.net/2015/10/illinois-and-pennsylvania-credit-ratings-lowered/

23:01:16 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 3.59950000 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b48

23:02:28 mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/ << from which we find that the twinklederps are about half as interesting as nascarface derp.

23:02:29 assbot: BitBet ... ( http://bit.ly/1W34G2i )

23:04:18 BingoBoingo: Seriously

23:07:15 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303087 << elizabeth banks is painful to watch. obnoxious as all hell, insufficiently sexy, and now getting long in the tooth.

23:07:15 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 00:11:51; mircea_popescu: Zack & Miri Make a Porno

23:08:01 mircea_popescu: verily.

23:08:50 pete_dushenski: oh well, good thing bellucci is still makes movies i guess

23:09:04 mircea_popescu: just how much flan can a person eat!

23:09:19 pete_dushenski: haven't seen a movie in theatres in a few months, thinking the new bond flick will break the seal.

23:11:19 BingoBoingo: I'm surprised how little marketing it has gotten

23:12:32 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303146 << who wants to play alaric ?

23:12:32 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 01:07:48; mircea_popescu: so so very 400 ad.

23:12:59 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo how'd you know ? i sure wouldn't. hardly ever see advertising tbh

23:13:19 pete_dushenski: blocked in browser, none in here, don't pass many billboards, don't hardly watch tv

23:13:34 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: That I guess could also be it.

23:13:51 BingoBoingo: Back in 2012 I was exposed to far more of that shit.

23:14:05 pete_dushenski: for all i know pepsi is giving away free blowjobs with every 12-pack

23:14:54 pete_dushenski: or justin trudeau is buying every canadian a phree double-double

23:14:58 pete_dushenski: with red food colouring !

23:15:07 pete_dushenski: with their own money !

23:15:13 pete_dushenski: but for phree !

23:15:30 pete_dushenski: so, yea, canada has a new pm

23:16:06 pete_dushenski: first dynasty, young handsome charmer, because why not put the best of bush and obama into a blender and ship the product up north ?

23:16:40 pete_dushenski: like romanian kids wanted to work for 'international firm', canadians want politicians like usistan has.

23:17:40 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303570 << mega-thread here.

23:17:40 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 17:33:01; ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'And it is because the real estate prices in Beijing etc have made it so that young women are unaffordable.' << what does this mean?

23:17:45 *: pete_dushenski tips cap

23:18:39 mircea_popescu: ;P

23:20:25 pete_dushenski: also re-read the essences trifecta on fraudsters today. i guess it's an expressions and changes kinda day.

23:20:50 phf: <ascii_field> BingoBoingo, ben_vulpes, other aficionados: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-XL1201-LISP-MACHINE-/221915599560 << given that prices on symbolics hardware gone 3x in the past five years, i expect that same machine to fetch $40 000 in a year or two

23:20:51 assbot: RARE Vintage Computer Symbolics XL1201 Lisp Machine | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1M5xwJO )

23:20:57 pete_dushenski: the essences made far more sense than they did whenever i read them last, maybe 6-9 months ago

23:21:30 pete_dushenski: much as tlp is finding new life here, with fresher, more mature eyes

23:22:00 pete_dushenski: phf almost as good as bitcoin, that. just harder to ship.

23:22:28 mircea_popescu: phf and what's this say about inflation ? note that they are artwork in any sense.

23:23:00 BingoBoingo: So coca-cola was the villain this whole time https://archive.is/oRms0

23:23:01 assbot: The obesity paradox: Why Coke is promoting a theory that being fat won’t hurt your health - Vox ... ( http://bit.ly/1W35X9y )

23:23:02 pete_dushenski: not artwork ?

23:23:34 mircea_popescu: hm ?

23:24:27 pete_dushenski: "note that they are artwork in any sense" sounds funny. like it should either be "not that they are artwork in any sense" or "note that they are NOT artwork in any sense"

23:25:14 pete_dushenski: or "note that they are artwork in every sense"

23:25:51 mircea_popescu: any implies negative ?

23:26:26 pete_dushenski: mya

23:27:02 phf: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-VINTAGE-COMPUTER-SYMBOLICS-3600-LISP-MACHINE-KEYBOARD/321810769726 << was trying to buy this one, got as high as $1100 on best offer, guy wouldn't go any lower then $1400

23:27:04 assbot: RARE Vintage Computer Symbolics 3600 Lisp Machine Keyboard | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1OGZLVE )

23:28:10 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-10-2015#1303764 << i bet that cisco box contains shrunken heads of usg wreckers

23:28:10 assbot: Logged on 20-10-2015 19:06:16; ascii_field: l0l cisco box. mircea_popescu took it off a dead nazi, or what.

23:28:17 BingoBoingo: http://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tesla-reliability-doesnt-match-its-high-performance << LolMusk

23:28:18 assbot: Tesla Reliability Doesn’t Match Its High Performance - Consumer Reports ... ( http://bit.ly/1OGZPVo )

23:28:25 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski actually it contains condoms.

23:28:51 pete_dushenski: aha. which reminds me, i need to put that on my grocery list !

23:29:01 BingoBoingo: "The brake rotors tend to warp. And the door handles often fail to ?present? themselves as drivers approach their cars."

23:29:19 BingoBoingo: "The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks."

23:29:51 mircea_popescu: and speaking of condoms : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213277 can not be underlined enough!11

23:29:51 assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 17:51:01; mircea_popescu: speaking of condoms... for many years, i was using imported magnums. broke like...i dunno, twenty over a decade ? easily 1%.

23:30:26 BingoBoingo: http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2015-americas-top-inventor-lowell-wood/

23:30:26 assbot: How an F Student Became America’s Most Prolific Inventor — Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1OH017k )

23:30:28 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo sounds pretty bad.

23:31:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00053412 = 15.0622 BTC [+] {3}

23:31:08 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's pretty bad compared to my more than a decade old Saturn plastic car

23:31:48 mircea_popescu: mya

23:33:03 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo i have fond memories of those saturnmobiles. some fillies in undergrad had them.

23:33:16 pete_dushenski: which is no knock on them

23:33:31 pete_dushenski: they're pretty funky things

23:33:54 BingoBoingo: Every couple years something expected to wear out wears out, but other than that it's not needed much other than maintenance

23:34:21 pete_dushenski: "Despite the problems, our data show that Tesla owner satisfaction is still very high: Ninety-seven percent of owners said they would definitely buy their car again." << now that's a fucking cult

23:34:48 pete_dushenski: "was raped and beat-up and left for dead. a+++ 10/10 would do again!"

23:35:05 pete_dushenski: priceless

23:35:29 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo that's the mark of an actual car, as opposed to a 'smartphone'

23:35:42 BingoBoingo: I don't get how they can be happy with just a 200 mile range before refilling

23:35:53 phf: i suspect that failures in this case are seen as being on bleeding edge, sort of meta-meta-maker

23:36:01 pete_dushenski: "oh you broke your screen/headlight ? that'll be 3/4 of the cost of a new one."

23:36:42 BingoBoingo: Maximum cost for parts on plasti-saturn is ~$2000 for a donor car in great condition

23:37:04 pete_dushenski: phf lol inb4 3d printer option in-between backseats so kids can 'innovate' while on road trip

23:38:55 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo honestly, my merc is the same story. actually machines. plenty of parts and parts cars. even if, on short notice, clean body panels sometimes come from very, very far afield as seen in http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/20/hey-edmonton-police-service-what-part-of-private-property-dont-you-understand/#footnote_1_5675

23:38:56 assbot: Hey Edmonton Police Service, what part of private property don’t YOU understand? | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1W37axz )

23:39:09 phf: some part of car is replaced by a 3d printed equivalent, there's stl models and tutorials on maker.tesla.com, details on how to print your own, spiffier version

23:39:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40150 @ 0.00053137 = 21.3345 BTC [-] {3}

23:39:43 pete_dushenski: but mechanical components are always readily at hand. can only imagine tesla ownership in backwaters such as these

23:39:57 pete_dushenski: phf lulz

23:40:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00053558 = 12.3719 BTC [+]

23:40:21 pete_dushenski: ;;isitup http://maker.tesla.com/

23:40:22 gribble: Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.

23:40:28 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Kinda why if I replace it I am looking at incredibly common compact trucks

23:40:31 pete_dushenski: ;;isitdown http://maker.tesla.com/

23:40:32 gribble: http://maker.tesla.com/ is down

23:40:38 pete_dushenski: mkay

23:41:31 mircea_popescu: phf> i suspect that failures in this case are seen as being on bleeding edge, sort of meta-meta-maker << maybe the truth is, the people who buy teslas don't have anywhere to go anyway.

23:41:41 BingoBoingo: But great work on that panel pete_dushenski

23:41:55 mircea_popescu: "here's my very expensive excuse as to why i'm not going out of the house. it's not that im borderline autistic, it's that i save the environment. from myself."

23:41:56 pete_dushenski: cheers :)

23:41:58 phf: whole foods?

23:41:58 mircea_popescu: sounds legit.

23:42:09 mircea_popescu: iirc you order those now, no ?

23:42:46 BingoBoingo: I actually saw a Tesla here driving in backwater exurban town. Have no Idea why.

23:42:55 mircea_popescu: trying to pick up chix ?

23:43:21 phf: i suppose you either amazon it or else "shop local" i.e. within walking/biking distance

23:43:23 BingoBoingo: Mebbe

23:43:32 mircea_popescu: "my other bike is a tesla"

23:43:38 phf: hahah

23:43:45 pete_dushenski: the black tesla i saw at the racquet club yesterday was driven by trophy wife with two kidlets in tow

23:43:50 mircea_popescu: 200 miles sounds remarkably like bike range

23:44:09 pete_dushenski: a good bicyclist will do 100 km in a day

23:44:20 BingoBoingo: It is exactly the upper limit of bike range nearly

23:44:26 mircea_popescu: what if you stick his cock in a socket ?

23:44:39 pete_dushenski: 100 km is nissan leaf range, give or take.

23:45:14 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu then he loses his trophies for 'juicing'

23:45:28 mircea_popescu: lol

23:46:54 BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu then he loses his trophies for 'juicing' << Unless bicycle cop, then promoted

23:48:30 pete_dushenski: the expansion of means and methods of police mobility in just the last decade is pretty astounding.

23:48:39 pete_dushenski: used to be foot or cruiser, that's it.

23:49:30 pete_dushenski: now : foot, car cruiser, truck cruiser, armoured transport, bicycle, segway, and who knows mebbe jetpack

23:49:49 pete_dushenski: oh, i guess helicopter does that eh

23:50:04 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/10/wolf_blitzer_is_not_an_idiot.html << fucking epic. omfg what would the net be without this guy. quote :

23:50:05 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Wolf Blitzer Is Not An Idiot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OH1jyV )

23:50:05 mircea_popescu: "What happened is that Wolf was in the middle of a story some people suspected was a hoax, but was still being reported as a "thank god he was hiding in the garage" drama. So he tried to protect the story. He tried to pretend he missed the comment so that everyone could go on with the story as it was being told.

23:50:06 mircea_popescu: If you agree with this, then you have to also face the fact that Wolf didn't consciously plan, "no matter what happens in this interview, I'm going to cover it up"-- it was a reflex, an instinct. Get a drink, think about this: a reporter's instinct wasn't to go for the truth, but to go with the scripted story.

23:50:06 mircea_popescu: You may think that I'm too much with the rum or too hard on Wolf-- "he seems like such a nice man" but it's not Wolf's fault. He's a cog in the Matrix. The next day Meredith Vieira interviews the family live on the Today show. While the father is denying to her it was a hoax, the boy suddenly says, "mom, I need a cup" and vomits. Vierra's response to this is nothing. Forget about the implications of the boy's vom

23:50:13 mircea_popescu: iting, she does not even acknowledge that he vomited. Is she heartless? No. She's flustered: her instinct is to preserve the show, like a stage actress, keep the scene going no matter what else happens."

23:50:14 BingoBoingo: Hometown definitely had bike cops at least a decade and a half ago.

23:51:32 pete_dushenski: hm. ok. maybe 20 years ago then

23:51:40 pete_dushenski: i'm getting old, what

23:52:45 pete_dushenski: it used to be "omigerd a decade is fo-ev-ah". gonna take some getting used to, this.

23:53:09 BingoBoingo: I'm slowly coming to terms with this.