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00:04:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 131 @ 0.0051 = 0.6681 BTC [-] {2}

00:18:26 mircea_popescu: !up n21187

00:18:49 n21187: thank u

00:25:55 BingoBoingo: %t

00:25:56 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 222 Ask: 240 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 12k High: 222 Low: 222 VWAP: 221

00:29:19 mircea_popescu: sure. who're you ?

00:29:42 n21187: nobody really

00:31:54 mircea_popescu: ic.

00:38:51 BingoBoingo: The comments here make a nice lens for paranoid about psyops http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/07/20/206205/russian-government-edits-wikipedia-on-flight-mh17

00:38:52 assbot: Russian Government Edits Wikipedia On Flight MH17 - Slashdot

00:46:03 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: American Government Edits Wikipedia On Nobody Ever - USGDot

00:46:53 BingoBoingo: Oh it does. I'm just trying to play a game with myself of which comments are psyops from what side, which are parody, and which are just feeding the trols

00:57:10 BingoBoingo: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HkUGs-R4jJA/U7mjCp9MBnI/AAAAAAAAITM/rIQCqWagpiY/s1600/Photo+Jun+26,+11+38+08+PM.jpg

00:59:58 mircea_popescu: ok so the great news is, mpex is fully operational.

01:00:07 mircea_popescu: i will be bringing it online midday today.

01:00:25 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-sp30-asic-arrives-tuesday/

01:00:53 decimation: re: crap quartz clocks: I wondered how they did this in cell phones, because the absolute frequency is required to be within a certain range

01:01:16 decimation: turns out they use minaturized tcxo: http://www.timing-is-everything.net/id75.html

01:01:17 assbot: Press Release 8/18/08

01:02:00 decimation: you can buy on digikey for ~$20 as i recall, but I"m sure apple paid much less

01:03:05 BingoBoingo: Overly simple charts http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/07/17/the_middle_east_friendship_chart.html

01:03:05 assbot: The Middle East Friendship Chart

01:05:31 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, definitely, al-quaeda is hostile to everyone. herp.

01:06:00 mircea_popescu: and egypt is friendly to the us. what the fuck is this lmao.

01:06:19 BingoBoingo: If ever there were a chart which should have just been filled with "It's complicated"

01:06:21 mircea_popescu: iran friends with nobody but iraq ?! ahahh

01:07:08 mircea_popescu: check it out, how many friends the us has. iraq... the saudis...

01:07:17 mircea_popescu: nuts that thing.

01:08:13 BingoBoingo: Also Where the fuck are the Kurds? They are more a thing than refering to Iraq in the singular now.

01:10:17 decimation: I'm also annoyed that wristwatch accuracy is so poor

01:12:11 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo or afghanistan

01:12:29 mircea_popescu: this is so very like reading soviet hagiography

01:12:37 BingoBoingo: lol

01:14:28 decimation: it is interesting that the "high-end" watch world has gone away from "my watch is really accurate" to "look at the neat spinny gears"

01:16:06 BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, it had to. Shiny sell more than function does. Hence every outdoorsy flashlight is now tactical.

01:17:03 decimation: yeah, the last quartz watch sold on accuracy that I can find was in 1974: http://chronomaddox.com/omega_megaquartz_2400.html

01:17:51 decimation: it turns out you can open up many quartz watches and adjust the trim pot to correct for aging error: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f43/how-adjust-accuracy-g-shock-83153.html

01:17:52 assbot: How to adjust the accuracy of a G-Shock

01:19:21 decimation: !up Diablo-D3

01:19:37 Diablo-D3: that forum isnt loading

01:19:42 Diablo-D3: is this for an analog one?

01:19:59 decimation: no it's a casio g-shock

01:20:07 decimation: unstylish digital watch

01:20:11 Diablo-D3: yeah see

01:20:14 Diablo-D3: I have a g-shock

01:20:18 Diablo-D3: its 20 years old

01:20:25 Diablo-D3: Ive never had to adjust it

01:20:47 decimation: mine is about 5 years old and it loses about 10 seconds per month if it doesn't correct from WWVB

01:21:28 decimation: apparently the firmware in the watch: 1.) doesn't use WWVB to correct its long-term frequency error 2.) produces a one-second offset when synced to WWVB

01:24:56 BingoBoingo: I think a rhubidium "grandfather clock" at home is a better solution to the problem of "watch has shitty crystals" than WWVB's chicom signal.

01:25:45 decimation: heh chicom signal?

01:26:46 Diablo-D3: mine loses about half a minute every year

01:27:14 Diablo-D3: mine predates the time radio shit

01:27:36 Diablo-D3: I also turned dst off on it because of bush

01:27:40 BingoBoingo: Well sure it was originally US made, but when things break... And in a high power broadcase facillity shit breaks

01:28:19 decimation: the conventional solution is to use gps for the same purpose, but that has the same problem

01:29:10 BingoBoingo: Actual solution is to roll your own time standard

01:31:24 BingoBoingo: It isn't like the blockchain demands timestamp precision

01:34:29 decimation: well, how are you going to initially set your granfather clock? do you accept the communist's time reference frame?

01:35:36 Diablo-D3: I wouldnt mind one of the new gshocks that are solar and self setting

01:36:04 decimation: yeah that is what mine is, it has worse onboard clock...

01:36:30 Diablo-D3: it doesnt need to have a great onboard clock

01:36:35 decimation: also it does not sync well on the east coast of the us

01:36:45 Diablo-D3: heh, really?

01:36:46 Diablo-D3: meh

01:36:51 Diablo-D3: maybe by the time my watch dies

01:36:55 Diablo-D3: I wont bother replacing it

01:38:11 BingoBoingo: decimation: I imagine when it starts I'll just take the unix time from the nearest friendly timeserver

01:39:19 decimation: I think the citizen watches are the only digital quartz watches made today with some level of accuracy

01:40:05 BingoBoingo: Eh citzen or seiko generally work fine. Swatch is prolly fine too.

01:41:39 BingoBoingo: Most days I get by fine with a malaysian automatic winding movement when I care/remember to wear it.

01:46:10 dub: my phone can tell the time

01:47:06 decimation: phones are set by mobile towers generally

01:47:32 decimation: yeah a grand seiko quartz should be less than 1 second per month based on their internal spec

01:49:45 decimation: !up Diablo-D3

01:50:14 Diablo-D3: really, this whole +m stuff should stop

01:50:32 Diablo-D3: yeah, see, what dub said is true

01:50:46 Diablo-D3: my phone, also, tells time

02:02:59 bitstein: !up Basquiat_

02:03:36 Basquiat_: bitstein: http://claritycurrency.com/ the latest in bitcoin startup scams

02:03:37 assbot: Clarity Currency Management | Home

02:05:10 bitstein: I like how they flat out make stuff up in their "educational guide"

02:05:51 bitstein: "Companies such as Facebook, Apple, Yahoo, EBay and Amazon have already begun implementing bitcoin transactions in their business models, in addition to Wallstreet, political candidates, and the music community."

02:06:31 Basquiat_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONRrrTFnJA

02:06:31 assbot: Clarity Currency Mgmt - Who We Are - YouTube

02:06:38 bitstein: On a symbolic level, I like how the banner image has varying degrees of clarity.

02:09:14 bitstein: Basquiat_: The music.

02:11:46 BingoBoingo: Chiraq update: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-chicago-shooting-20140720,0,5431495.story

02:11:46 assbot: In violent weekend, at least 40 people shot in Chicago - chicagotribune.com

02:14:08 bitstein: They ought to try banning guns.

02:16:06 Basquiat_: bitstein: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10201955734645471&set=o.520416921397098&type=1&theater hard at work trading that crypto

02:24:10 mircea_popescu: !up Zoop_

02:24:30 mircea_popescu: the music community lol

02:33:25 decimation: it's probably racsis to take notice of who is murdering in chicago

02:44:27 copumpkin: still no sign of mpex?

02:45:58 BingoBoingo: copumpkin: Supposedly going up Midday

02:46:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.003 = 0.6 BTC [-] {2}

02:48:30 mircea_popescu: copumpkin http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2014#762950

02:48:31 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

02:48:51 copumpkin: yay

02:48:58 copumpkin: inb4 massive selloff of S.MPOE :P

02:49:26 copumpkin: I'd join in, except I'm lazy so I'll probably just hold it and see what happens

02:49:56 mircea_popescu: yay cheap shares.

02:58:12 copumpkin: :)

02:58:33 copumpkin: I think I have enough shares for now

02:58:55 copumpkin: one day I'll have as many as you do though!

02:58:56 copumpkin: >_>

03:04:32 mircea_popescu: well sure, i still intend to retire eventually.

03:07:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.17 = 4.76 BTC [+]

03:10:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 53 @ 0.16002225 = 8.4812 BTC [-] {13}

03:12:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1818 @ 0.003 = 5.454 BTC [-]

03:17:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 199 @ 0.00298982 = 0.595 BTC [-] {2}

03:25:54 *: asciilifeform laughs, reading log, seeing people thinking that microwave clock is for knowing the time.

03:27:05 *: asciilifeform often wonders about thermal behaviour of the semiconductor widgetry connected to such clocks, and whether anyone even gives a fuck

03:27:52 asciilifeform: incidentally, we know that gate delay is thermally ticklish. how? easy - asynchronous circuits will speed up or slow down depending on temperature.

03:35:08 dub: there is a clock on my microwave sothere

03:36:33 BingoBoingo: Time's not a real thing anyway

03:39:50 BingoBoingo: Time's just the scraps left over after space is cleaved from the manifold by the faculty of sensation to cognition

03:40:22 BingoBoingo: by intuition

03:40:41 BingoBoingo: Or maybe I flipped something around in there

03:46:05 dub: I like how you can gauge just how stupid your average HR/HS peon is by the time they expect it to take for the test

03:46:22 dub: estimated time for this module 30 minutes, takes 35 seconds

03:46:46 dub: HS learning team have a combined IQ of 17

03:47:15 asciilifeform: dub: let me guess. mandatory u.s. army 'anti-terrorist training' ?

03:48:16 dub: there was a bomb threat slide, which was particularly stupid in that I failed it

03:49:59 dub: apparently you should take your laptop with you in this instance because not having it destroyed by bomb squad is less important than not being blowed up

03:50:19 dub: er, more important

03:54:31 dub: gah

03:55:02 dub: the best ones are where there is not enough information to answer

03:56:01 dub: this question 'what should you take to a $site', options ID, changte request, then lists three different access card types

03:56:39 dub: the answer is all of above

04:26:14 xanthyos: is that the real marc summers?

04:26:19 xanthyos: of nickelodeon's double dare?

04:26:30 xanthyos: sorry i'm new here, but respect of it is!

04:49:47 mircea_popescu: !up MarcSummers

04:49:56 mircea_popescu: MarcSummers are you the real marc summers ? :p

04:55:50 benkay: <Basquiat_> bitstein: http://claritycurrency.com/ the latest in bitcoin startup scams // omg the scrolling divs

04:55:51 assbot: Clarity Currency Management | Home

05:16:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 59 @ 0.01282283 = 0.7565 BTC [-] {7}

05:35:10 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: * asciilifeform uses headphones mainly to 'turn off hearing' to improve concentration. < you wear those cause model m, admit it! << such zing :D

05:36:40 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

05:36:42 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.09, Best ask: 621.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 620.08, 24 hour volume: 1743.48584101, 24 hour low: 620.0, 24 hour high: 628.76, 24 hour vwap: 622.95275537

05:41:57 mircea_popescu: miasma epidemiology huh ? good one.

05:44:23 mircea_popescu: if that 6th chip actually delivers what they claim it delivers... holy hell what comes after yotta ?

06:16:53 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/995/ukraine-ceasefire-will-be-reported-before-aug-20/ check that out lol

06:16:53 assbot: BitBet - Ukraine ceasefire will be reported before Aug 20 :: 0.2 B (16%) on Yes, 1.07 B (84%) on No | closing in 4 weeks 17 hours | weight: 98`801 (100`000 to 1)

06:17:03 mircea_popescu: what ceasefire, that thing'll be going for a decade.

06:47:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.15691 = 1.5691 BTC [-] {2}

06:55:34 fluffypony: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyimages/2024.jpg

07:01:31 cazalla: as if parents used the internet "then"

08:24:04 jurov: <mircea_popescu> basically god is just this very large dice assemblage in non-space, feeding all the quarks dicerolls.<< i suspect he actually uses prng with fixed seed

08:24:13 mircea_popescu: lol

08:24:19 mircea_popescu: just very large ?

08:24:40 jurov: needs not even be so large

08:49:51 BingoBoingo: God is actually just the old Debian RNG flaw, n always ===== 6

09:39:28 BingoBoingo: !up adrrr

09:40:59 adrrr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiP-h4KYnHY

09:42:22 adrrr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_wymk8ORQ

09:47:27 adrrr: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHnHcBFSqY

11:00:54 BingoBoingo: %d

11:01:00 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

11:01:04 gribble: Current Blocks: 311811 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 668 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19100391549.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.1756

11:22:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 230 @ 0.00300029 = 0.6901 BTC [-] {3}

12:06:09 jurov: http://www.businessinsider.com/harry-devert-found-dead-in-mexico-2014-7 someone here wanted to travel to conference on land?

12:06:09 assbot: Harry Devert Found Dead In Mexico - Business Insider

12:08:29 mircea_popescu: sooo... dns doesn't want to propagate ;/

12:13:18 dub: your soa dont exist

12:15:11 mircea_popescu: meh

12:15:33 dub: create a records for ns1/2 polimedia

12:16:04 mircea_popescu: i r

12:17:03 mircea_popescu: dub do you see an ip for n1/n2 ?

12:18:18 dub: no

12:18:55 dub: 'gendns' doesnt have the records

12:18:56 mircea_popescu: namecheap is LYING TO ME

12:35:08 dub: !up Mats_cd03

12:35:22 Mats_cd03: my nigga

12:38:09 Mats_cd03: http://hashcrack.org/page?n=21072014

12:38:09 assbot: Hashcrack - Vitaly Nikolenko

12:39:19 Mats_cd03: http://youtu.be/pLaJliu2_pI

12:39:20 assbot: C64 SID-Chip programmer took a hit of his bong - YouTube

12:53:33 dub: mircea_popescu: now ns1/2 need to no they are soa for mpex.co

12:53:42 dub: s/no/know jesus

12:53:46 mircea_popescu: lol

12:53:59 mircea_popescu: they've been telling me they know for an hour

12:55:25 jurov: dub where you got it from? i can't dig anything about mpex.co from here

12:55:49 dub: I cheated

12:56:15 dub: # dig ns1.polimedia.us @ns11.gendns.com +short

12:56:16 dub:

12:56:33 mircea_popescu: aha yep

12:56:45 mircea_popescu: http://who.is/whois/mpex.ws << it's there, for instance.

12:56:46 assbot: Mpex.ws Whois Lookup - Who.is - Who.is

12:57:02 dub: add that to your host file, and the problem moves to ns1|2.polimedia refusing to recurse for mpex.co

12:57:18 dub: which likely means they are not soa for it

12:59:45 dub: either you have no mpex.co zone on there or its waiting a rehup oslt

13:00:00 dub: some providers do a 6 hour push for eg

13:00:24 mircea_popescu: im on it, finally got everything in hand

13:00:28 mircea_popescu: damned dns finnickiness

13:02:41 *: dub tries to dos mpex

13:02:48 mircea_popescu: awww

13:02:56 dub: left a sleep out of my loop :)

13:12:08 jurov: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TuTLHf_xyiw/U8zB7KkTl_I/AAAAAAAAA5E/J6LywN8AI1A/w540-h809-no/staticka-elektrina.jpg

13:12:26 dub: lel

13:12:48 dub: toe'd out

13:16:33 jurov: up Duffer1

13:16:41 jurov: !up Duffer1

13:16:44 BingoBoingo: %t

13:16:45 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 211 Ask: 238 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 14k High: 222 Low: 222 VWAP: 221

13:17:06 jurov: !up Rulother

13:17:17 jurov: !up zoinky

13:17:35 jurov: !up nubbins`

13:17:36 zoinky: 30 minutes of voice

13:17:39 zoinky: so graced

13:17:49 nubbins`: buenas

13:18:29 jurov: zoinky tell us something about you

13:23:36 fluffypony: tell us your innermost feelings and concerns

13:24:06 zoinky: pressure is killing me

13:33:34 jurov: lol

13:33:45 mircea_popescu: !s proxies

13:33:46 assbot: 173 results for 'proxies' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=proxies

13:34:12 mircea_popescu: $proxies mpex.ws mpex.bz

13:34:14 empyex: mircea_popescu: Temporarily saved.

13:34:15 empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)

13:34:36 mircea_popescu: $s

13:34:41 mircea_popescu: $mpexlag

13:34:42 empyex: mircea_popescu: Error reaching trade engine

13:34:46 mircea_popescu: tsk

13:34:57 jurov: prolly hardwired to mpex.co

13:35:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00307014 = 3.0701 BTC [-] {2}

13:35:21 mircea_popescu: aite well, that's that. mpex back online.

13:35:42 mircea_popescu: i am a man with a much whiter beard.

13:35:57 jurov: 2FB7B452 is the new key?

13:36:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 531 @ 0.00309733 = 1.6447 BTC [+] {10}

13:36:11 mircea_popescu: making a post nao.

13:36:14 jurov: not it is not

13:39:02 pankkake: mpex extradited from .co?

13:40:20 mircea_popescu: so it is lol.

13:50:22 mircea_popescu: http://mpex.ws/faq.html#8 << here we go.

13:52:22 pankkake: !up boobsboobs

13:55:43 BingoBoingo: Hello boobsboobs

13:58:46 BingoBoingo: !up mike_c

13:59:03 mike_c: thx

14:01:26 BingoBoingo: Death is on its last legs https://atc.waroflife.com/gow/13/

14:01:27 assbot: Game 13 - Death 1402 Life 8598 Year 980 - War of Life

14:02:06 mircea_popescu: game 13 ?! wasn't it 17 ?

14:02:16 mircea_popescu: o atc nm

14:03:02 mike_c: bout time death took an ass kicking

14:03:22 mircea_popescu: can death be killed ?

14:04:13 asciilifeform: '... and with strange eons even death may die.'

14:04:45 mircea_popescu: hehe

14:05:30 jurov: death dies last

14:07:00 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703330.0

14:07:00 assbot: How can this friend successfully ipo?

14:08:01 *: jurov reads and chokes

14:09:32 mircea_popescu: don't choke, swallow.

14:09:57 danielpbarron: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20:14&version=NKJV

14:09:58 assbot: Revelation 20:14 NKJV - Then Death and Hades were cast into the - Bible Gateway

14:12:00 mircea_popescu: lol @that ipo

14:14:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 70 @ 0.01267562 = 0.8873 BTC [-] {8}

14:19:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 56 @ 0.01387588 = 0.777 BTC [+] {3}

14:45:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 68 @ 0.0124004 = 0.8432 BTC [-] {3}

14:55:15 thestringpuller: !s mpex update

14:55:16 assbot: 15 results for 'mpex update' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mpex+update

14:56:55 BingoBoingo: http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/6/0/297060.jpg?v=1

15:00:59 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's up.

15:02:43 thestringpuller: is it?

15:02:54 thestringpuller: MPEx is unreachable for me lol

15:03:07 thestringpuller: it's cool I should be working instead of trading right now

15:04:34 mike_c: it got extradited to western samoa

15:04:42 mike_c: http://mpex.ws

15:04:42 assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.

15:05:34 mircea_popescu: ;;google .bz tld

15:05:34 gribble: .bz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.bz; Nic.bz: http://nic.bz/; .BZ - ccTLD (country code top level domain) for Belize - Name.com: https://www.name.com/domains/bz

15:05:42 mircea_popescu: belize and samoa.

15:06:10 mircea_popescu: anyway, ima have more later on, just, wanted to get it back online asap.

15:06:35 jurov: so it works with the old key?

15:06:39 dub: seems a little quiet

15:07:12 jurov: thestringpuller wants me to enable coinbr, is it possible?

15:07:30 mircea_popescu: $proxies

15:07:33 empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)

15:07:55 mircea_popescu: jurov no, needs new key. it's in the faq http://mpex.ws/faq.html#8

15:08:02 mircea_popescu: and yes you can enable coinbr.

15:08:10 thestringpuller: ah I see

15:08:14 mircea_popescu: use either .bz or ws at your option

15:08:27 asciilifeform: where'd 'co' go ?

15:09:11 jurov: hm i stopped looking on http://mpex.ws/faq.html#3, there's still old keyid

15:09:56 pankkake: and how do we trust the new key?

15:10:06 mircea_popescu: pankkake it's signed by me.

15:10:11 jurov: !ident mircea_popescu

15:10:16 jurov: ;;ident mircea_popescu

15:10:16 gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None

15:10:33 mircea_popescu: jurov that's MY key. of course it's the same.

15:11:18 jurov: how do you mean? A57D509A is different one

15:11:51 jurov: btw, how do i ask the keyserver who signed it?

15:11:56 mircea_popescu: are you using a cached copy of the faq ?

15:12:01 mircea_popescu: and one sec i;'ll link you.

15:12:15 pankkake: the keyserver should give you the key and its sub-signatures

15:12:20 jurov: 02DD2D91 ... browser prolly cached it

15:12:43 thestringpuller: ctrl-shift-r

15:13:40 mircea_popescu: http://pgp.surfnet.nl:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x02DD2D91 << thjere

15:13:40 assbot: Search results for '0x02dd2d91'

15:13:47 jurov: gpg--recv-key 02DD2D91 said: PGP trust model

15:13:48 jurov: gpg: depth: 0 valid: 3 signed: 2 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 3u

15:13:50 jurov: gpg: depth: 1 valid: 2 signed: 0 trust: 2-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u

15:14:06 jurov: there seems like useful info hidden there

15:15:16 mircea_popescu: jurov anyway, on faq #3 the only key is mine. it's not changed.

15:17:08 jurov: i see, the #3 is for something else..derrrrrrp

15:18:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform co's taking a little break, back later.

15:19:54 mircea_popescu: dub seems a little quiet << assbot won't relay till i get a hold of kako to allow teh connections.

15:20:49 dub: I was watching the site but yes I see a trade now

15:29:40 asciilifeform: obligatory: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/E8C0827C6A36BD44C145B0011ABD54B5A9577022F1486911951958E4E870BB29

15:29:42 assbot: Welcome | Phuctor

15:31:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 370 @ 0.00310735 = 1.1497 BTC [+] {4}

15:34:03 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty neat huh

15:35:26 asciilifeform: anybody here into optics ?

15:35:45 dub: what, like pr0n?

15:35:52 mircea_popescu: im into bed. laters!

15:35:59 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu goodnight

15:36:08 asciilifeform: dub: regardless of whether for pr0n or not

15:39:36 dub: ...

15:40:19 asciilifeform: looking for info/experiences with chinese industrial cameras

15:43:43 dub: http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

15:45:02 punkman: asciilifeform: you putting together a pick n place?

15:45:23 asciilifeform: punkman: not actively, but slowly contemplating it when not doing other things

15:46:27 punkman: I got a few chinese industrial lenses, you probably want to avoid the cheap ones

15:46:35 dub: jurov: coinbr etr?

15:46:40 asciilifeform: punkman: almost certainly going to build an automatic paste printer, however. pumping paste through a handheld nozzle under microscope is a misery.

15:46:56 asciilifeform: and stencils suck.

15:48:40 punkman: only tried plain soldering under microscope, very tiring indeed

15:49:04 nubbins`: ;;view 21116

15:49:06 gribble: #21116 Sun Jul 20 15:55:46 2014 nubbins` BUY 1.0 2011 1BTC Brass Series-2 Casascius @ 1.3 BTC (Price flexible, depending on condition)

15:49:07 punkman: here's a relaxing landscape http://i.imgur.com/DRRKbHw.jpg

15:49:12 nubbins`: really didn't think they'd be this hard to find

15:50:06 jurov: coinbr is on, since now.

15:50:21 jurov: just need to fix the data on order screen

15:53:08 BingoBoingo: %d

15:53:10 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 660481.28 in 1724 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -3.89

15:53:12 BingoBoingo: %ob

15:53:13 atcbot: 12k@240 40k@238 5k@237 | 57k@211 183k@210 200k@202

15:53:32 dub: jurov: orders cancelled or is that what you are fixing

15:53:57 jurov: no orders should be cancelled (maybe except X.EUR)

15:54:25 dub: dashboard sowing no orders since a few minues

15:54:33 dub: minutes*

15:54:44 jurov: fuck no.. they were renumbered???

15:55:03 jurov: /facedesk

15:55:10 dub: also the balances are missing the amount that was in the orders

15:55:22 jurov: where is mircea?

15:55:55 jurov: oinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess

15:56:12 benkay: http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/116066/2283684-Jimmy_bieber_Popcorn_cu-thumb-350x197-14878.gif

15:57:53 nubbins`: ;;seen mircea_popescu

15:57:55 gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 22 minutes and 2 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> im into bed. laters!

15:59:14 jurov: def snafu(self):

15:59:16 jurov: flash("Sorry, CoinBr is read-only due to mpex recovery processing. Normal service will resume shortly.",'warning')

15:59:35 jurov: i have a dedicated method for it by now...

16:00:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.79167912 BTC to 12`353 shares, 14504 satoshi per share

16:00:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 234 @ 0.00311 = 0.7277 BTC [+]

16:00:34 dub: glhf

16:01:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 18.26180944 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1588 satoshi per share

16:03:51 nubbins`: glhf, sweet acro

16:14:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 568 @ 0.00300036 = 1.7042 BTC [-] {5}

16:18:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 203 @ 0.00298447 = 0.6058 BTC [-] {7}

16:19:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0029808 = 1.4904 BTC [-] {4}

16:21:26 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/fxcm/

16:21:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1102 @ 0.00295302 = 3.2542 BTC [-] {6}

16:28:55 FabianB: $mpexstatus

16:28:57 empyex: FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: 748 milliseconds (change: $proxies <newlist>)

16:33:53 FabianB: ;;later tell mircea_popescu how about revoking A57D509A ?

16:33:53 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:46:17 FabianB: MPEx.rb users: just change "mpexkeyid" in $HOME/.mpex/config.yaml to 02DD2D91 and sign it before usage

16:51:33 jurov: coinbr should be okay now, check your accounts

16:52:29 jurov: mpex broker really cannot be done by someone like benkay who needs all things to be neatly lined up

16:52:49 jurov: this would drive them crazy

16:53:38 jurov: how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs?

16:54:29 nubbins`: lel

16:55:02 pankkake: ask them to fix their shit? well…

16:55:32 pankkake: my account looks ok

16:55:49 jurov: oh yes calling mircea off from blowjob and ask him to change order IDs back?

16:55:52 jurov: riiiight

16:56:40 jurov: at least coinbr got the dubious privilege of managing order #1

16:58:02 kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu yes.

16:58:03 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:59:20 fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pz3syET3DY

16:59:20 assbot: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Prison (HBO) - YouTube

17:07:37 assbot: Doffx +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

17:11:38 pankkake: if only a thing such as guids existed!

17:11:43 pankkake: !up Doffx

17:12:43 Doffx: Oh, cool thank you.

17:13:03 Doffx: Its been a while since I was on IRC.

17:13:47 Doffx: What rating do you need in WOT to get level 2?

17:14:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00275905 = 0.5518 BTC [+]

17:14:57 FabianB: doesn't depend on rating amount

17:15:04 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust Doffx assbot

17:15:05 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user Doffx to user assbot: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Doffx&dest=assbot | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014

17:15:06 FabianB: only whom you connect with

17:15:16 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust Doffx

17:15:16 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Doffx!~doff@173-10-74-110-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user Doffx: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=Doffx | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Doffx | Rated since: Sat Apr 21 16:07:28 2012

17:15:54 thestringpuller: If I was id'ed I'd rate you

17:15:59 thestringpuller: can't do that till I get to my key machine

17:16:08 thestringpuller: Doffx: ^

17:16:29 Doffx: Ahh gotcha.

17:16:47 thickasthieves: “In order to ensure that the Island’s [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (“AML/CFT”) framework. "

17:19:26 Doffx: Anything good happening, its been a long while, I used to live in this channel not too long ago.

17:20:10 Doffx: I think after watching several exchanges go down, and luckily not losing anything I stopped logging in.

17:20:30 pankkake: ;;rate Doffx 1 #bitcoin-assets +v

17:20:32 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Doffx has been recorded.

17:20:45 Doffx: Thanks!

17:20:56 pankkake: I almost lost to Bitcoin-24 (anyone remembers that one?)

17:21:12 pankkake: apparently was ran by a teenager on a personal account

17:21:38 Doffx: I remember it, he had margin trading going if I remember correctly early on.

17:21:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.02890175 = 0.578 BTC [-]

17:22:02 Doffx: I also remember an article talking about his age and that he had a ton of btc.

17:22:07 Doffx: If its the same one.

17:24:08 pankkake: perhaps

17:29:37 jurov: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/21/chinese_uni_students_pop_tesla_model_s/ ofc

17:29:37 assbot: Students hack Tesla Model S, make all its doors pop open IN MOTION The Register

17:30:16 jurov: kakobrekla if you want nejc to have a lil accident...

17:32:13 thestringpuller: Wasn't bitcoin-24 some like asian kid just getting in college?

17:35:05 FabianB: nah, that was bitcoinica

17:36:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 565 @ 0.00277204 = 1.5662 BTC [+] {5}

17:37:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 354 @ 0.00284409 = 1.0068 BTC [+] {5}

17:43:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 536 @ 0.00311994 = 1.6723 BTC [+] {2}

17:44:22 BingoBoingo: Generally Azn kids + Australia ==== Scam, ex, Zhou Tong, Trade Fartress

17:44:41 thickasthieves: zhou tong makes dope songs tho

17:49:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.02890175 = 0.9827 BTC [-]

17:55:16 fluffypony: http://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/south-africa

17:55:17 assbot: 31 Pictures That Prove South Africa Is The Craziest Place On Earth

18:02:42 asciilifeform: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/goldman-managing-director-found-dead-apparent-kite-surfing-accident

18:06:57 thickasthieves: next time dont fuck with my NFLX short!

18:16:38 xmj: how much of a difference exists between doing business in the US and A with a) a LLC or b) a C corporation?

18:24:49 mike_c: i've heard anecdotally that companies don't like to sign contracts with LLCs, but not sure why.

18:24:58 benkay: <jurov> mpex broker really cannot be done by someone like benkay who needs all things to be neatly lined up // lining things up neatly first makes dealing with the inevitable manual stuff vastly less of a headache.

18:25:10 *: xmj annoyed.

18:25:13 *: xmj much annoyed

18:25:20 benkay: i don't *need* things any particular way. i *build* things a certain way to reduce my future headache.

18:25:36 xmj: benkay: PM.

18:26:35 benkay: <jurov> how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? // gotta be manual.

18:26:42 benkay: (who knows...)

18:26:52 jurov: that isn't substantially different from what i wrote

18:28:06 benkay: just addressing your mischaracterization of me. just because i have opinions about mpex agent's test suite doesn't mean i don't do manual data munging (or have people do it) when appropriate.

18:28:14 Pierre_Rochard: xmj: do you want pass-through taxation or not? That (to my strictly accounting-based knowledge) is the primary difference

18:29:36 thickasthieves: LLC's are "looser", less formalized than a normal corp (less meeting/documentation requirements, flexible accounting), money is passed through to partners for taxation, rtaher than taxed at corp level,

18:29:41 benkay: re llc vs c-corp, i've seen no difference.

18:29:53 benkay: c's can own llc's, and vice versa.

18:30:37 thickasthieves: a startup can pass losses to personal taxes

18:34:29 BingoBoingo: Muddling up shit even more are S corps

18:36:18 jurov: benkay, i like to tease you. but still, dreaming of building full-stack mpex model which will get obsolete on mircea's whims...

18:36:48 jurov: at this point i feel mpexagent can be tested sufficiently by replaying its own log

18:42:51 jurov: pympex updated

19:38:50 jurov: $proxies

19:38:53 empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz MPEx-Status: 1028 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies <newlist>)

19:39:11 jurov: $proxies mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com

19:39:13 empyex: jurov: Temporarily saved.

19:39:14 empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 422 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies <newlist>)

19:41:22 BingoBoingo: !mpif

19:41:23 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021701 B (Total: 474.55 B). Delta: -0.73 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]

19:50:20 asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: re: c64 SID: http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/parallelsid/parasid.html

19:50:22 assbot: Parallel Port SID6581 Interface

20:08:19 bitcoinpete: "China signed a bilateral currency swap agreement worth 150 billion yuan ($24.17 billion) with the Swiss central bank, which can invest up to 15 billion yuan in China's bond market."

20:10:37 thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: all out war on the dollar now. ;)

20:10:57 bitcoinpete: it's heating up

20:50:10 *: mircea_popescu goes to message assbot, messages assboy instead.

20:50:12 mircea_popescu: nohomo.

20:50:33 mircea_popescu: FabianB why ?

20:50:55 thestringpuller: assboy

20:50:57 thestringpuller: lol

20:52:02 mircea_popescu: ;;seen pizzaman1337

20:52:02 gribble: pizzaman1337 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 3 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <pizzaman1337> [unreliable source?]

20:52:23 kakobrekla: assboy lol

20:52:40 kakobrekla: pizza is around just not typing here.

20:52:44 mircea_popescu: o just the man i wanted to see.

20:53:32 mircea_popescu: jurov: coinbr will go offline till i sort out the mess << ohai.

20:57:31 pizzaman1337: oh hey, now I can talk

20:57:38 mircea_popescu: jurov:how would one prepare a recovery process for exchange chaging all the order IDs? << order ids have always been a motherfucking bitch. new trade engine install, so there's that. sorry j!

20:57:46 mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 :p

20:57:53 mircea_popescu: don't you now feel sheshul.

20:58:05 pizzaman1337: very sheshuled

21:00:11 mircea_popescu: !up Doffx

21:00:12 pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: long time no-see. bit4x going well still?

21:00:24 mircea_popescu: Doffx : all you need is for anyone in assbot's direct trust ring to rate you positively.

21:01:16 kakobrekla: pizzaman1337 world domination proceeding as planned.

21:01:24 mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 no, he's just losing 1% a month.

21:01:47 mircea_popescu: which means he'll be the last btc biz to fail, but it'll still be a FAIL

21:01:53 kakobrekla: that is completley another scam.

21:01:59 kakobrekla: dont mix the two.

21:02:04 mircea_popescu: this is what pirate said!

21:02:18 kakobrekla: hehe

21:03:26 pizzaman1337: -1%/month sounds like world domination to me. almost.

21:03:40 pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: are those guys still planning on setting up an exchange?

21:03:48 mircea_popescu: "but there is some ambiguity in this bet depending on the time zone..." <<< "I'm the last person on earth to not know what timezone bitbet uses through no fault of my own and also not having bothered TO READ THE MOTHERFAQING FAQ! and so therefore there's ambiguity in this bet. Not in my dumb fucking head that wouldn't be fit to grace a gargoyle. "

21:04:40 pankkake: I read "gloryhole"

21:04:48 pankkake: it works, I think

21:04:54 kakobrekla: pizzaman1337 hint: try btce demo, yes demo.

21:05:14 pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: no depth, orders don't fill as desired

21:05:20 mircea_popescu: pankkake i think it's even better.

21:05:32 kakobrekla: bingo.

21:05:36 pizzaman1337: boo

21:05:40 mircea_popescu: !up riX2000

21:06:26 mircea_popescu: FabianB: doesn't depend on rating amount << til fabian is a fucking heretic. SMALL AMOUNT OF DEPENDS!

21:09:24 bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/ValaAfshar/status/491323029096374272

21:09:34 bitcoinpete: $211,000,000,000 = $AAPL and $GOOG combined cash holdings

21:09:47 bitcoinpete: also… 0 btc

21:10:22 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete people gotta learn the limitations of linear interpolation sometime.

21:11:40 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: these people being...

21:11:57 mircea_popescu: well in general.

21:13:04 bitcoinpete: quite

21:13:16 bitcoinpete: linear extrapolation is also horribly overused

21:13:34 bitcoinpete: like the dood who says "29b ppl on planet earth is no biggie"

21:13:47 bitcoinpete: what would the lines at the louvre be like then?

21:14:02 mircea_popescu: exactly what happens when you say "cash holdings" about 221 bn.

21:14:13 FabianB: mircea_popescu: just if you consider it potentially compromised (the old key)

21:14:22 mircea_popescu: well... they're not exactly cash, now are they. obv pros know what it implies, but random person on the street... cash is cash rite ?

21:14:41 mircea_popescu: FabianB i don't, so i'm just shelving it.

21:15:00 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: calling it "cash" makes it soup as liquid as soup

21:15:09 bitcoinpete: when it's probably as liquid as cement

21:15:11 FabianB: yeah, then no need to revoke

21:15:28 bitcoinpete: *makes it sound

21:17:24 mircea_popescu: $mpexlag

21:17:26 empyex: mircea_popescu: 1009 milliseconds

21:17:30 mircea_popescu: orly ?

21:18:12 FabianB: was wondering too, i have two theories for the lag

21:18:34 mircea_popescu: FabianB i don't see it tho, from my side ?

21:18:56 mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: ?In order to ensure that the Island?s [Isle of Man] international reputation is maintained, it has been decided that certain activities relating to virtual currencies should be brought within the Anti-Money Laundering/Countering the Financing of Terrorism (?AML/CFT?) framework. " << right. anyone who didn't see that one coming should not be a ceo in the first place.

21:19:11 FabianB: since using mpex.bz instead of trade engine ip now it's doing a dns lookup

21:19:46 FabianB: and i moved the bot to singapore

21:19:50 mircea_popescu: pankkake: I almost lost to Bitcoin-24 (anyone remembers that one?) << oh yeah. i kept wanting to write a scathing piece, kept putting it off, then they belly up'd. lost my article heh.

21:20:00 FabianB: but pure ping is around 200 ms

21:20:59 mircea_popescu: a the dns may be it yes.

21:21:22 mircea_popescu: still, makes $mpexlag actualy more valuable as a middle-of-the-road sort of measure.

21:21:35 FabianB: dunno if i should cache it; on the other hand it's realistic, since clients make a dns lookup as well usually

21:22:04 mircea_popescu: you can in principle cache it if you want, at the risk that you know, if it changes you have a bad cache.

21:22:32 FabianB: i think i'll keep it that way

21:22:49 mircea_popescu: anyway, this new setup is pretty fucking sweet.

21:23:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002999 = 0.8997 BTC [+] {2}

21:24:04 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahyaha kite surfing accident ? that's cute.

21:24:11 mircea_popescu: they meant kike surfing amirite ?

21:24:36 mircea_popescu: fluffypony http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-07/20/22/enhanced/webdr04/enhanced-buzz-10565-1405910936-4.jpg omfg srsly ?!

21:25:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his nailgun must've had empty clip.

21:25:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.002999 = 0.8997 BTC [+]

21:26:02 fluffypony: heh heh

21:26:05 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: lol those dentures...

21:26:10 bitcoinpete: sent that to my wife actually

21:26:59 *: asciilifeform always imagined that dentures must be serious business in the turd world, but never seen this before.

21:27:00 mircea_popescu: nuts lol. "Cannibals"

21:27:27 mircea_popescu: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-07/21/0/enhanced/webdr02/enhanced-buzz-1417-1405917936-24.jpg aahahh

21:29:08 bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: african dentistry is something else. their notions of "health" and "cosmetically attractive" are wildly different.

21:29:16 bitcoinpete: it's mostly a "no pain, no problem"

21:29:25 bitcoinpete: like most of the world, i suppose

21:30:01 bitcoinpete: i wonder if they get second-hand dentures from the western world in the same shipments as t-shirts and jeans

21:30:22 bitcoinpete: and old computer parts

21:30:55 asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: why import. denture probably outlives owner.

21:32:45 bitcoinpete: i can't wait until dentures make their way into the north american "sharing economy"

21:33:17 bitcoinpete: "make money while you sleep" (in the library, mall, etc.)

21:34:11 mircea_popescu: !up evwebweb

21:34:34 bitcoinpete: "If we are honest and have the strength to face reality, we will realize that the Soviet Union did not collapse. It simply moved, along with Mao and Pol Pot, to Washington and London."

21:35:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i grew up in the strict idea that eyeglasses are this made-for-user things, it completely fucking boggled me to see people "trying" on glasses.

21:35:17 bitcoinpete: "if we discount the pavlovian conditioning, the only conclusion is that the entire news cycle pertaining to the downing of the Malaysian airliner is orchestrated in order to lay the blame on Putin."

21:35:27 bitcoinpete: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/07/19/happened-malaysian-airliner-paul-craig-roberts/

21:35:28 assbot: What Happened to the Malaysian Airliner? -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org

21:36:03 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: that's more like suits

21:36:16 bitcoinpete: an eyeglass tailer… now there's an idea!

21:36:21 bitcoinpete: *tailor

21:36:49 mircea_popescu: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-07/21/1/enhanced/webdr11/enhanced-buzz-16599-1405919398-9.jpg << ok this chick i want to meet.

21:38:21 Namworld: I just call that an optometrist...

21:39:06 mircea_popescu: thickasthieves: next time dont fuck with my NFLX short! << lmao. tat's out fo blood.

21:40:05 assbot: [MPEX] [Q.TEST] 987654321 @ 1.23456789 = 1219326311.1264 BTC [+]

21:40:21 mircea_popescu: thar she bloes.

21:40:49 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

21:40:51 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.51, Best ask: 621.98, Bid-ask spread: 1.47000, Last trade: 620.51, 24 hour volume: 3919.19645834, 24 hour low: 615.0, 24 hour high: 628.0, 24 hour vwap: 619.978165511

21:42:48 mircea_popescu: jurov: at this point i feel mpexagent can be tested sufficiently by replaying its own log << this is hoiw you know you're in irl business :D

21:43:18 mircea_popescu: $mpexlag

21:43:19 empyex: mircea_popescu: 877 milliseconds

21:43:22 mircea_popescu: $proxies

21:43:25 empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 428 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91 (change: $proxies <newlist>)

21:43:38 mircea_popescu: FabianB well what is it, 8 or 4 ? :D

21:43:42 bitcoinpete: ;;nethash

21:43:43 gribble: 138890613.616

21:44:23 FabianB: i guess it has high volatility :)

21:44:31 FabianB: $mpexlag

21:44:33 empyex: FabianB: 764 milliseconds

21:45:12 FabianB: maybe i should move it to europe

21:49:33 mircea_popescu: nah dont adjust measuring stick to cock.

21:50:38 mircea_popescu: imo this setup is ideal, measure from singapore to amsterdam

21:51:22 FabianB: heh, was just about to start an instance in amsterdam, ok, let's keep it in sg

21:51:57 FabianB: hm, dns lookup is 5 ms

21:52:11 mircea_popescu: it fucking should be.

21:52:31 mircea_popescu: i actually have pretty cool nservers, irrespective of all the dub hate :D

21:52:55 FabianB: 64 bytes from icmp_seq=1 ttl=42 time=264 ms

21:53:28 FabianB: wondering if bot is trying ipv6 first

21:53:40 mircea_popescu: 200ish sounds more credible.

21:55:40 mircea_popescu: btw you can take off that (change) part. it's not useful anymore.

21:56:02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: somebody else's glasses, within 10% or so, are, i suppose - better than none

21:56:13 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem is how the fuck do you measure

21:56:18 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where was this - zimbabwe ?

21:56:27 mircea_popescu: costa rica.

21:56:31 asciilifeform: lol

21:59:58 mircea_popescu: $proxies

22:00:00 empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 557 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

22:00:22 FabianB: hm. disabled ipv6, so that's not it

22:00:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/blocks-found-last-24-hours-added-poolnetwork-information/

22:01:16 mircea_popescu: so mpex opened.... HIGH on low volume ?

22:01:27 mircea_popescu: isn't this like exactly the opposite of what should have happened ?

22:02:00 kakobrekla: that block finder table is missing sum(all) on top

22:05:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6689 @ 0.00081082 = 5.4236 BTC [+]

22:09:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00081082 = 4.0541 BTC [+]

22:11:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7115 @ 0.0008171 = 5.8137 BTC [+] {2}

22:17:46 bitcoinpete: Isis is marking Christian homes with the letter N, in Arabic ن which means “Nazarean”, so they pay punitive taxes. pic.twitter.com/THXzy0bSU1

22:18:01 bitcoinpete: via taleb

22:18:30 mircea_popescu: nasty.

22:20:40 bitcoinpete: better than lamb's blood on the door frame and losing a first born… but still

22:21:02 bitcoinpete: like getting kicked in the balls is better than a firing squad

22:31:44 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: maybe this is better as a fraudsters comment, but how are DERPS adjusted againt BTC volatility since they are priced in fiat?

22:32:03 mircea_popescu: they are not, since you can just buy bitcoin with your fiat.

22:45:09 thestringpuller: will you ever do non btc related derps (it seems even viable to ycombinator suckiness)

22:48:06 mircea_popescu: if there's demand

22:49:12 mircea_popescu: !up Doffx

22:49:19 mircea_popescu: Doffx wha seems to be the trouble ?

22:49:24 Doffx: No trouble.

22:49:41 Doffx: Was just coming back to the old channels to start chatting with old friends

22:49:48 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot Doffx

22:49:49 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Doffx!~doff@173-10-74-110-BusName-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Doffx: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Doffx | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Doffx | Rated since: Sat Apr 21 16:07:28 2012

22:49:50 Doffx: Maybe learn something new

22:49:58 mircea_popescu: so you need to id with gribble and pm assbot !up

22:50:21 Doffx: Oh, I thought I had.

22:51:22 mircea_popescu: see ?

22:51:42 Doffx: Yep, seems happy now.

22:51:52 mircea_popescu: so whatcha been up to ?

22:52:26 Doffx: Same stuff, just kinda stopped popping in to the channels when I started a new job.

22:52:51 thestringpuller: what kinda job?

22:53:01 thestringpuller: if you dont mind

22:53:06 Doffx: IT for a financial institution.

22:53:25 mircea_popescu: girl i met recently asks me in all seriousness "if you could have any job in the world, what would it be ?"

22:53:39 fluffypony: and you said astronaut, right?

22:53:47 Doffx: Fireman

22:53:48 mircea_popescu: actually i said tigress tamer.

22:54:05 mircea_popescu: it'll hit her like a ton of bricks sometime later.

22:54:09 kakobrekla: its a trick question.

22:54:52 thestringpuller: i want to be a cosmonaut

22:56:32 mircea_popescu: http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/2559/Why-the-lion-normally-wins-in-a-fight-with-a-tiger << misspelled urls ftw.

22:56:34 assbot: Why the lion normally wins in a fight with a tiger in Lion vs Tiger Discussion Forum

23:03:32 dignork: apparently recording of russian radar (Boing crash) http://stat.multimedia.mil.ru/multimedia/video/clips/more.htm?id=5086%40morfVideoAudioFile

23:03:32 assbot: :

23:04:23 dignork: plane dissapears about 3:20

23:06:39 dub: showing the su-25 intercept?

23:06:58 dignork: i'm not sure what i see there, never seen the real screen :)

23:07:08 dub: http://rt.com/news/174412-malaysia-plane-russia-ukraine/

23:07:26 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/shut-up-and-sit-down/

23:09:06 mthreat: who funds RT?

23:09:43 dub: who funds every other media outlet?

23:10:18 mthreat: no i actually watch RT in spanish, but i'm curious who funds it

23:10:39 mthreat: (i.e. not a rhetorical question)

23:10:55 kakobrekla: russians

23:11:23 dub: considering the level of pandering I'd guess its russian state funded

23:11:36 dub: much like cnn or fox is usg powered

23:11:54 mthreat: ok. i just like to know. I watch it for a different point of view from CNN et al

23:12:01 mircea_popescu: mthreat some candian holding corp for a bunch of english twerps

23:12:11 mircea_popescu: thompson fambly.

23:13:21 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: crazy canuckistanis...

23:13:55 mthreat: RT has an american chick, Eva Golinger, who covers latin american news in spanish

23:15:01 mircea_popescu: so what you want to buy her ?

23:15:22 mthreat: nah.. she's paid for already

23:19:14 bitcoinpete: off to pottery class again. mostly to set an example for benkay ;)

23:19:23 bitcoinpete: cheers

23:41:44 dub: don't forget to IPO the result

23:42:32 kakobrekla: eskimo can do the baking.

23:42:35 dub: petespotteryashtrays.com

23:42:44 dub: 'xactly

23:59:10 benkay: pottery? what?