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00:01:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14926 @ 0.00064114 = 9.5697 BTC [-]

00:05:10 BingoBoingo: reeses: Protestor with the confinscated head bullet http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Officer-who-threatened-to-kill-protester-in-Ferguson-suspended-272073421.html together with http://www.tacticalsol.com/ar-22-series-uppers/ar-22-sb-x seem like interest wild conspiracy stuff.

00:05:11 assbot: Officer who threatened to kill protester in Ferguson suspended | KMOV.com St. Louis

00:06:14 BingoBoingo: ( .22LR is sometimes talked on in police circles as an acceptable "escalation" from rubber"

00:07:09 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wlel they don't really do anything.

00:07:52 mircea_popescu: ?It was havoc at that time. He also got urine thrown on him, having to deal with that is obviously disgusting,? Jiminez said. ?However, when he?s trying to protect the public and asking people to back up, under no circumstances do I, or our department, condone his language.?

00:08:01 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo gotta admire the mindframe these grunts get into.

00:08:26 BingoBoingo: Oh, Imma working on a blog post

00:08:32 mircea_popescu: i bet you if you asked the whole complement of us police it'd be their honest estimation that in their absence the whole population would simply die overnight.

00:09:02 mircea_popescu: he was "protecting the public".

00:09:21 BingoBoingo: Sounds like the mindest on their blogs

00:09:57 BingoBoingo: .22lr can do interesting things, but also explains why headshot protester girl lived http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f33/polar-bear-kill-54763/

00:09:58 assbot: Polar Bear Kill - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine

00:10:02 mircea_popescu: would be kinda cool if the next few crowd shooters adopt this strategy as the maximal damge game theoretic solution.

00:10:08 mircea_popescu: "your honor, i was protecting the public"

00:10:10 mircea_popescu: and just go with that.

00:10:29 mircea_popescu: "just say what a policeman would say"

00:10:47 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo she got shot with a bb pellet ?

00:11:16 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well no updates on the confinscated bullet

00:11:57 BingoBoingo: But if those assault rifles are mostly for looks and fitted with .22lr uppers could contribute to the explanation for why the cop got trigger happy

00:13:55 BingoBoingo: The small rimfire calibers though still kill plenty of people in the city (cheap effective enough if trying)

00:17:33 thestringpuller: !s bitreserve

00:17:33 assbot: 3 results for 'bitreserve' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitreserve

00:18:03 thestringpuller: hmm

00:19:24 jurov: "bitreserve" ... maybe one day it will be popular booze

00:19:28 jurov: *name of

00:20:10 mircea_popescu: aged in mulberry ?

00:20:12 kdomanski_: BingoBoingo: they're actually popular for gang hits, because it's trivial to make an effective supressor for them

00:20:46 BingoBoingo: kdomanski_: In Missouri you can buy them without an NFA provided it was manufactered in Missouri

00:20:49 mircea_popescu: dude im missing out on the party. i thought gangland was mostly 45

00:21:05 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It was in the 20's

00:21:28 mircea_popescu: no wait, in the 20s it was bb pellets. what do you think thompson fires ?

00:21:40 BingoBoingo: 45

00:21:44 kdomanski: thompson was 45 ACP

00:21:49 mod6: yup it is

00:22:25 mircea_popescu: fine fine.

00:22:27 mircea_popescu: i got nothing.

00:22:30 mod6: i shot a thompson once, was great :)

00:22:39 kdomanski: today they gold-plate .45 guns and carry them around for show

00:23:59 kdomanski: "yo nigga, look at my 1911 el Presidente Edition"

00:24:11 mod6: haha, i was just about to say, i want this one: https://www.lesbaer.com/PresGrade.html

00:24:12 assbot: Les Baer Custom Inc.

00:24:46 BingoBoingo: Right, but the large caliber stuff looks cool and costs money.

00:28:55 mod6: i shot one of those rugers with the integrated supressor once, it was hilarious, made no sound at all other than the action.

00:29:09 mod6: click-clack.

00:29:34 mod6: (.22 rimfire job)

00:31:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00064427 = 21.9374 BTC [+] {2}

00:32:15 *: mod6 ponders a hardware wishlist

00:32:58 mod6: hang on, lemme see if i can crowdfund my gun wishlist..

00:33:06 mod6: :D

00:34:48 mod6: i need an hk417

00:35:17 mod6: when the usg falls, i'll be buyin!

00:35:50 mod6: just think of all the toys that'll be avaliable. =D

00:41:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00064075 = 6.6958 BTC [-] {2}

00:43:46 mircea_popescu: isn't the recoil pretty bad on that ?

00:44:25 mod6: the 417? na, its got a recoil sprint in the stock-tube.

00:44:51 mod6: shoots pretty much like the 16 or ar15/m16

00:45:00 mod6: or ar10

00:45:08 kdomanski: mod6: when the usg falls I hope it's caches of chemical weapons are secure

00:45:22 mod6: everything will be up for grabs.

00:46:13 mod6: or sold off by .mil guys trying to cash in

00:46:37 mod6: either way. same thing happened in the ussr iirc.

00:48:04 mod6: you'd think they would want to destroy those and the nukes. but they won't, because they can't see the forest through the trees.

00:48:12 mircea_popescu: kdomanski what's your definition of secure ?

00:49:58 kdomanski: mircea_popescu: claimable by someone who knows exactly what they are doing, but not by a bunch of hillbillies

00:50:27 mircea_popescu: that's probable.

00:50:51 mircea_popescu: hillbillies with chemical weapons are a self limiting problem anyway

00:51:15 kdomanski: if you don't live too close

00:52:26 BingoBoingo: I'm and the places in the US I consider traveling before my eventual exodus all seem to be upwind of those problems

00:52:51 BingoBoingo: If there is one thing Southern Illinois has over Southern Indiana its that.

00:53:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29879999 = 0.5976 BTC [+]

00:53:33 *: BingoBoingo offer merely rumours and inuendo in supposing S IN might have such things

00:56:26 kdomanski: the Internet tells me Westboro Baptist Church is in neither of these states

00:56:53 mod6: its in KS

01:02:06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not actually sold any bitcoin, still << naturally one buys an atomic dirigible -with- btc.

01:02:53 thestringpuller: mod6 and BingoBoingo MW'er 4lyfe

01:02:56 thestringpuller: dat snow

01:03:08 BingoBoingo: lol

01:03:12 asciilifeform: Hindenburg << would've probably died 'natural' death of most other dirigibles (wind. wonder where the u.s. ones went?) if not for the nitrocellulose envelope.

01:03:35 BingoBoingo: !s big prison

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01:04:03 asciilifeform: helium... welding tools and rocket fuel << in welding, processes like TIG, etc. in rocket? what was author smoking?

01:04:51 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

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01:04:58 mod6: <+thestringpuller> dat snow << i basically piss ice cubes

01:05:26 asciilifeform: .22LR is sometimes talked on in police circles as an acceptable "escalation" from rubber << old tradition in usa. e.g. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/american-10-e.html

01:05:27 assbot: Modern Firearms - American-180

01:06:25 mod6: 290-round flat pan magazines << hahaha

01:06:42 asciilifeform: the .22 (for non-usians, the familiar 'olympic' caliber) rifle is also explained by cost: roughly 1/2 - 1/3 of a 'proper' m16. low pressure round, can use garbage metals.

01:06:49 asciilifeform: popular 'girls' rifle

01:08:27 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> the .22 (for non-usians, the familiar 'olympic' caliber) rifle is also explained by cost: roughly 1/2 - 1/3 of a 'proper' m16. low pressure round, can use garbage metals. << In police department purchasing general practice is buying actual M-16 type and them getting .22LR uppers to go with them

01:08:59 asciilifeform: if i recall, these are a plug-in part (no machining required)

01:09:00 BingoBoingo: More total purchases = Greater Bezzel

01:09:09 BingoBoingo: Completely plug in

01:09:26 asciilifeform: caliber being same.

01:10:11 mod6: yeah, you got nothin over 100m with that though. fine for qcb, but how are you supposed to reach out and touch someone in the field?

01:10:40 asciilifeform: mod6: police snipers (like any other) traditionally use bolt-action rifles of the 19th c. variety

01:10:49 asciilifeform: so the above isn't really about them

01:11:14 asciilifeform: rather, 'crowd control' mitrailleuses.

01:11:21 mod6: well, im saying, in case you left your bolt action remmington at home...

01:11:24 asciilifeform: as in 'pour la canaille la mitraille.'

01:11:32 BingoBoingo: Nothing to do with caliber, in the AR/M-16 style rifle the entire upper switches out with the removal of pins and replacement of bolt carrier springs. As long as the new caliber round is no longer than 45mm it works.

01:12:00 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i vaguely recall these were advertised as using the old barrel

01:13:18 mod6: <+asciilifeform> as in 'pour la canaille la mitraille.' << haha!

01:13:53 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But the chamber in the standard 5.56x45mm barrel is wider to accomodate all that case. Unless the very cheap want a sleeve to solve that dimensional disparity at risk to limb...

01:15:45 asciilifeform: .22 seems to be a caliber wildly popular in usa - likely, solely on account of cost. a few cents each.

01:16:07 mod6: yea, cheap & easy to shoot.

01:16:24 asciilifeform: folks who spend a good deal of time at target practice complain about the fouling (no jacket.)

01:16:45 mod6: bah, just gotta scrub harder ;)

01:17:12 BingoBoingo: You can get copper plated, but yeah. Fouling is an issue. Thankfully the solution instills good habits

01:18:15 *: asciilifeform was informed re: the ubiquitous photos of gurlz posing with 'fancy m16' - typically it is the .22 cheapo variety.

01:19:08 BingoBoingo: Oh there are cheapos in the actual caliber

01:19:29 BingoBoingo: Pricing resource http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/

01:19:30 assbot: Home Page

01:19:39 asciilifeform: cheapo as in 'reddit' budget

01:19:52 BingoBoingo: What was that word for "the big jail"

01:19:52 mod6: includes a roll of ducktape

01:20:17 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: большая зона ?

01:20:27 BingoBoingo: Yes, thank you.

01:20:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 55 @ 0.01199998 = 0.66 BTC [-] {2}

01:21:03 mod6: b-a has some decent weapons discussions.

01:21:27 *: asciilifeform is armchair general, if ever contributed to decent military discussion - purely by accident.

01:21:51 mod6: :]

01:24:14 BingoBoingo: I find reading about these things interesting because of the engineering and implementation issues raised. Like last night's electrolytic machining discussion.

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01:25:09 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i find it interesting that nothing principally new happened in small arms for almost a century. (curios like 'gyrojet' excepted)

01:25:58 asciilifeform: departures from tradition - e.g. 'caseless shell' - were suggested, but no one bothered to reduce to practice afaik

01:26:56 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, a lot happened in terms of "market trials" on subjects such as "Full" v "intermediate" power rounds and ideal caliber at any power

01:26:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform similarly no improvement in vinyl discs.

01:27:04 asciilifeform: lol

01:27:06 mircea_popescu: small arms are a dead trope as it were.

01:27:56 asciilifeform: small arms are a dead trope >> i recall a thread re: armour and the obsolescence of small arms

01:28:18 asciilifeform: but one nitpick - the 'self-aiming rifle' (one variant recently exhibited) could be an interesting gotcha

01:28:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/sometimes-i-miss-romania/

01:28:24 mircea_popescu: sure.

01:28:38 asciilifeform: enemy might be covered in magical armour, but he still has, presumably, a visor

01:28:39 mircea_popescu: it's just... you know that no modern war will be won by small arms fire. like if the uys and china went at each other

01:28:49 mircea_popescu: it won'tr come down to who has many people that can and will fire a rifle.

01:29:02 asciilifeform: there's the 'city meatgrinder' style of warfare

01:29:09 mircea_popescu: this is like saying "the performance people moved away from vinly". it's dead.

01:30:12 asciilifeform: collapse of mega-empires and even pre-collapse deterioration of industrial base tends to favour a return to classical arms, however.

01:30:28 mircea_popescu: sure. and vinyl discs.

01:30:39 asciilifeform: wax phonograph, hell.

01:30:44 mircea_popescu: ayup.

01:31:17 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> enemy might be covered in magical armour, but he still has, presumably, a visor << this reminds me, you know the horny bear joke ?

01:31:23 asciilifeform: ?

01:31:44 mircea_popescu: mkay. so in th forest there lived this very horny, huge schlong bear. sort of like one eye pete of the beardom.

01:32:10 mircea_popescu: one day he got really spunky, and his three bear wives ran off in this peculiar manner of females whose cunt is sore.

01:32:25 mircea_popescu: and the bear took to the road to find something to stick his hard cock into, repeatedly.

01:32:41 mircea_popescu: all animals took to flight, earthworms hid in the ground as deep as they could go.

01:32:53 mircea_popescu: just the poor hedgehog, with his tiny feet couldn't really keep up

01:33:01 mircea_popescu: so eventualy gave up, curled in a ball and hoped for the best.

01:33:27 mircea_popescu: bear of course finds it, and spining it all around like a hot potato on his paws mutters with great urgency

01:33:34 mircea_popescu: "where is your hole where is your hole"

01:33:49 mircea_popescu: eventually the hedgehog loses it and peeps "i have no hole, let me be!"

01:33:58 mircea_popescu: AHA! YOU SPOKE! THROUGH WHERE DID YOU SPEAK!

01:34:01 mod6: haha

01:34:05 asciilifeform: lol

01:34:20 asciilifeform: obligatory:

01:34:20 asciilifeform: http://www.lspace.org/fandom/songs/hedgehogsong.html

01:34:20 assbot: The L-Space Web: Songs

01:36:43 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That was posted at the exact right time to get linked in blog post I'll finish tonight or maybe in the morning.

01:39:32 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re: electrochemical machining: if you do the obvious thing and run it backwards, you can deposit metal. but you'll have to temper the finished product.

01:39:33 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo isn't the +iq effect of ba impressive.

01:40:26 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've actually done that before, ghetto electro plating to build thickness

01:40:51 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is indeed, especially considering all of the stuff I planned on addressing and culled

01:41:00 asciilifeform: a traditional joke on a n00b in a machine shop, i'm told, is to send him off for a 'putting-on tool' when he cuts his first undersized piece.

01:41:15 asciilifeform: chroming has been pressed into service as 'putting on tool' in some places.

01:41:41 asciilifeform: but this here is a different idea - actually build the entire thing via moving nozzle (a la plastic printer.)

01:42:49 BingoBoingo: In the boy scouts, people at camp their first year were sent to the quartermaster to retrieve the illustious "left handed smoke shifter"

01:43:04 asciilifeform: every profession, i suspect, has its 'any key.'

01:46:56 BingoBoingo: Well, some professions instead of hazing the n00bs haze the olds. See "retail pharmacy"

01:52:31 mircea_popescu: It is said, if you try, you can bugger the fly, or the swallow as it skims so skilfully by

01:52:33 mircea_popescu: ok that's poetry.

01:53:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTM] 560 @ 0.0018 = 1.008 BTC

02:04:13 kdomanski: this trope is present even in popular media - e.g. in the Game of Thrones, king Robert sends his squire to get the "breastplate stretcher"

02:12:45 ben_vulpes: "snipe hunting"

02:17:34 BingoBoingo: White dude talking race and policing >> http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/20/a-key-thing-that-erodes-the-pretense-of-respectability-in-governance/

02:17:34 assbot: A Key Thing That Erodes the Pretense of Respectability in Governance | Bingo Blog

02:18:14 thestringpuller: !up petepolack

02:20:51 petenineteen: ;;eregister petenineteen D4ECFBB385737831

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02:21:15 BingoBoingo: Anyone spot glaring errors in that post?

02:21:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/20/a-key-thing-that-erodes-the-pretense-of-respectability-in-governance/

02:21:24 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-difficulty-changes/

02:25:40 petenineteen: ;;eregister petenineteen 7EB744F873D038C0

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02:25:52 BingoBoingo: jborkl: Oh 2010 when GPUs were introduced to general math

02:26:52 petenineteen: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:cb58cf832d0327498832507e885a99fbdd8640a2cd5b2300c2896be8

02:26:53 gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user petenineteen with key 7EB744F873D038C0

02:27:02 BingoBoingo: ;;ident petenineteen

02:27:03 gribble: Nick 'petenineteen', with hostmask 'petenineteen!~petepolac@', is identified as user 'petenineteen', with GPG key id 7EB744F873D038C0, key fingerprint DBECE837C16B373A380BD5857EB744F873D038C0, and bitcoin address None

02:27:08 BingoBoingo: You did it petenineteen

02:27:08 thestringpuller: dope

02:27:45 petenineteen: (◡ ‿ ◡ ✿)

02:28:36 thestringpuller: ;;rate petenineteen 6 "designer i know in real life"

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02:29:08 BingoBoingo: http://www.vox.com/2014/8/20/6051377/video-st-louis-police-shooting-Kajieme-Powell

02:29:08 assbot: Video of St. Louis police shooting raises questions about officers story - Vox

02:34:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTM] 1115 @ 0.0018 = 2.007 BTC

02:39:03 BingoBoingo: Related to the blog post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG5anQPlUXE

02:39:03 assbot: Bonecrusher - Never Scared Remix (Dirty + Lyrics) - YouTube

02:40:50 BingoBoingo: !up aspho

02:40:59 BingoBoingo: !up xdotcommer

02:44:34 ben_vulpes: o look who it is

02:45:11 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re: article: taiwan is an interesting case of what i like to call a 'refrigerator' - pocket of thermodynamic dis-equilibrium kept going via outside energy (in its case - u.s. imperial navy)

02:45:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2597 @ 0.000639 = 1.6595 BTC [-]

02:45:38 asciilifeform: the fate of the contents of the various u.s.-powered 'refrigerators' around the world will be interesting.

02:45:55 asciilifeform: once plug is pulled.

02:46:10 BingoBoingo: I dunno, I imagine some of the refrigerators might handle better than the mains box when disconnected

02:47:44 BingoBoingo: Even though.. 2011 seemed for a while like American 1989...

02:48:02 asciilifeform: 'history does not actually repeat - but does rhyme.'

02:49:00 assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2QKB5X1.txt )

02:49:00 BingoBoingo: !b 1

02:49:28 *: BingoBoingo awaits Visigoths

02:50:12 asciilifeform: might handle better than the mains box >> to the extent that the fridges largely consist of deliberately-crafted thorns in the side of the old sovblok, bad bet.

02:50:50 *: BingoBoingo still has blown glass fuses

02:50:59 *: asciilifeform did, two flats ago

02:51:48 BingoBoingo: I like how they fail beautifully, before you realize you have to traverse the county in a disorderly manner to replace them

02:53:33 asciilifeform: at the time, mine were at the top of a stairwell to nowhere (wall) - in the cellar (which the owner usually kept locked, to keep tenants from switching on the heat.)

02:54:12 *: asciilifeform still remembers the inscription on the fuse case - '1932' - in chemical pen.

02:54:36 *: BingoBoingo has never had a rental with locks worth more than a soda

02:56:36 asciilifeform: usa proper is arguably the ultimate 'fridge'

02:57:28 asciilifeform: even in the past, did not hold the frost very well (who burned, e.g., detroit, and why...)

02:57:51 BingoBoingo: Ah, that freezer burn

02:59:11 asciilifeform: and unlike, say, yugoslavia or ussr, there are no conveniently-drawn ethno-geographic bantustans for it to cleanly collapse to.

03:00:27 BingoBoingo: Well, my pet theory is that much of the continued racial separation in the US is related to treating race as an inventory management problem

03:01:57 *: asciilifeform wonders if the ferguson uprising folks like the logical conclusion of their work - bantustan behind concertina wire

03:03:15 BingoBoingo: Well, the St Louis County PD and by extentsion the Ferguson PD work mostly for their pay which comes from West County

03:03:55 BingoBoingo: And West County wants to know, what if these people follow their oppressors wallets

03:05:56 BingoBoingo: The much promoted "outside agitators" still largely hail from St Louis County.

03:05:57 asciilifeform: the 'opressors', as i understand, feed/house the 'oppressed'

03:06:11 asciilifeform: which is the mind-boggling part

03:07:11 BingoBoingo: Nominally, but I'm not really sure feed/house is covered in the actual budget.

03:07:41 BingoBoingo: Unlike LRAD

03:08:11 asciilifeform: people who insist on being shot by police of own, vs. opposite, color, end up in bantustans.

03:08:11 BingoBoingo: The great bezzel problem is no one can be sure if anything was actually paid for

03:09:44 asciilifeform: along side the bezzlatron, there exists the system whereby actual food is delivered, water, fuel, mains current, etc. is piped.

03:10:09 BingoBoingo: I actually think the endgame a portion in Ferguson seeks is a police department like East St Louis's which see falling crime in spite of near complete inactio

03:10:24 asciilifeform: inhabitants of a newly-minted bantustan are usually invited to handle these matters on their own.

03:11:32 BingoBoingo: Well, the Illinois State police recently started policing East St Louis so there is prolly a point to that

03:13:50 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: try another hypothesis re: rationale for ferguson. engineered creation of 'open sores' for military action on the cheap. as described in http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-rationale-behind-boston-psy-ops.html

03:13:51 assbot: ClubOrlov: The Rationale behind the Boston Psy-ops

03:14:32 BingoBoingo: Bantustans aren't an unfamiliar creation in the region as many "coal city"'s existed which were named not for their coal mining.

03:14:46 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've been thinking that point

03:15:53 BingoBoingo: Today though was too soon for me to wave the Orlov was right flag. Last night was "mostly peaceful"

03:16:07 BingoBoingo: And I still have a bowl full of dates to snack upon

03:16:40 asciilifeform: general principle - if usa cannot maintain full employment for career trigger-pullers - collapsatron revvs up in record time.

03:16:50 nubbins`: america is a complicated place

03:17:03 asciilifeform: how to maintain full employment on the cheap? how about jacqueries.

03:17:19 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Did you see the guy I assigned the "Big Jail" link to?

03:18:00 asciilifeform: policeman?

03:18:26 ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> Well, my pet theory is that much of the continued racial separation in the US is related to treating race as an inventory management problem << out in the burbs recently, noticed while walking by a softball game while emptying the dogs tanks how the white folks sat on the left side of the field and the black folks on the other. this being in one of the few neighborhoods with actual black folks in portland, the ration was

03:18:26 ben_vulpes: ~7:1

03:18:55 BingoBoingo: Yes, State Trooper in Illinois. Many accidents, many incidents, finally shipped to wander the big jail for killing two cute white girls in a traffic accident

03:22:42 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: You can't believe what an asset not reflexively being afraid of black people is in this region.

03:23:52 ben_vulpes: i'm sorely out of practice since leaving new york.

03:24:30 asciilifeform: most russians in chechnya, pre-collapse, weren't instinctively afraid of their neighbours either.

03:24:40 asciilifeform: these folks are now: dead.

03:25:41 asciilifeform: ethnic war works quite like ordinary war, except that uniform is glued on.

03:25:55 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Imma trying to polish my spanish for a reason...

03:26:33 nubbins`: im trying to spanish my polish

03:26:45 BingoBoingo: And not simply because I have no idea how any word in old fraudsters is pronounced

03:27:23 *: BingoBoingo feels so-so ready for 30-day walk to freedom

03:28:06 nubbins`: protip: UV water filters cat fit in your pocket

03:28:11 nubbins`: *can

03:28:23 nubbins`: cats will not fit in your pocket.

03:28:31 BingoBoingo: Filter and replacement medium are already packed

03:30:00 nubbins`: good man

03:30:01 *: BingoBoingo wishes he were in time for TSR and could get a literal pound of cocaine to cut the walk to 10 days

03:30:04 nubbins`: hammock or tent? :D

03:30:47 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: knive and the good intentions of other men... no, tent

03:31:09 nubbins`: heh

03:32:49 nubbins`: you should look into hennessy hammocks, they pack super small and you can string up in all sorts of places

03:32:58 *: BingoBoingo kind of wonders what money he could make with Sinaloa

03:34:12 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I'm not good at hammocks

03:34:35 nubbins`: these ones are idiot-proof, built-in bug mesh, snug tarp

03:34:44 nubbins`: you don't even need knots :0

03:36:15 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Problem with a hammock isn't setting it up, but waking up

03:36:34 nubbins`: no advice for you there 8)

03:37:16 BingoBoingo: In hung over hypnagogic terror might as well be a trap to the lizard brain, and I am not letting the spiders win

03:37:44 nubbins`: first time pascale ever slept in a hammock, i suggested we leave the tarps off so we could see the stars

03:38:22 nubbins`: we get settled in, she clicks on headlamp to get oriented, illuminates huge spider dive-bombing directly towards her face

03:38:55 nubbins`: then we put the tarps back on ;D

03:39:11 BingoBoingo: Times 1-5 sleeping in a hammock I awoke safely on the ground, knife in hand

03:40:20 BingoBoingo: Tents are cool though

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03:41:05 nubbins`: !b 2

03:41:29 nubbins`: i can't get comfy on the ground

03:41:56 BingoBoingo: No, the ground is great, like us apes

03:42:57 ben_vulpes: nubbins`: do those hammocks hold two?

03:43:11 nubbins`: standard model is ~250lb weight limit

03:43:32 nubbins`: even sized correctly, you'd be smashed into each other all night. if this sounds like your thing, then yes

03:44:06 ben_vulpes: did you and pascale hate it?

03:46:45 nubbins`: we had one each

03:46:55 nubbins`: shared a tarp

03:47:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2090 @ 0.00064249 = 1.3428 BTC [+]

03:47:42 *: BingoBoingo suspects nubbins` values his life and didn't want to chance pascale's first time waking up in a hammock being his last time waking up

03:48:32 ben_vulpes: *stab stab stab*

03:48:44 nubbins`: no knives, keys, or lighters in the hammocks!

03:49:06 nubbins`: important rules

03:50:02 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: See I like to smoke in the tent which I why I pack an ash try

03:50:06 BingoBoingo: *tray

03:51:30 *: BingoBoingo wonders what person sleeps in the wilderness without protection

03:51:39 BingoBoingo: l

03:52:00 nubbins`: bear: "sweet, i love green peas"

03:53:29 BingoBoingo: Even deer aren't obligate herbivores

03:56:26 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOQdBLHrLk

03:56:26 assbot: deer eating a bird - YouTube

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03:59:12 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 12(Y):88(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.3399 BTC. Current weight: 99,057.

04:01:15 BingoBoingo: Deer-Safe anti-nature device (yes I need to oil it): https://imgur.com/f7lu7Oy

04:01:16 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

04:01:46 asciilifeform: old bayonet ?

04:02:20 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Fairbain Sykes knife, vintage

04:03:15 BingoBoingo: Sheffield England stamped on the hand side of the hilt

04:05:49 BingoBoingo: Old bayonet of similar vintage is hiding around here somewhere...

04:05:57 []bot: Bet placed: 25 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 16(Y):84(N) by weight. Total bet: 707.27919187 BTC. Current weight: 25,409.

04:11:23 BingoBoingo: It's amazing thinking that England... Used to produce things... Industrially

04:11:23 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

04:14:57 BingoBoingo: %p

04:14:59 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.35 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1055.61 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.18 TH/s

04:15:00 BingoBoingo: %d

04:15:01 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 199223.26 in 1863 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.39

04:15:02 BingoBoingo: %t

04:15:03 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 2k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 170

04:15:31 BingoBoingo: !up petenineteen

04:15:39 BingoBoingo: Hello petenineteen

04:15:48 BingoBoingo: I hear you know thestringpuller petenineteen

04:16:16 *: asciilifeform owns one single thing made in england - a 'thurlby thandar' variable dc supply

04:17:01 asciilifeform: it is very heavy. and transformer conveniently had a middle tap for folks in gringolandia to move the mains wire to.

04:19:26 ben_vulpes: see i read that as "penisteen"

04:19:48 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot petenineteen

04:19:49 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user petenineteen: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=petenineteen | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=petenineteen | Rated since: Wed Aug 20 22:28:26 2014

04:21:06 BingoBoingo: !up Graet

04:30:33 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: and unlike, say, yugoslavia or ussr, there are no conveniently-drawn ethno-geographic bantustans for it to cleanly collapse to. << sure there are.

04:30:56 mircea_popescu: there's the louisiana territory, the texas republic, old dixie, the original colonies, republic of sociocalifornia etc etc

04:36:54 BingoBoingo: Most in the US have already been collapsed to

04:41:45 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I actually think the endgame a portion in Ferguson seeks is a police department like East St Louis's which see falling crime in spite of near complete inactio << it's not in spite. it's BECAUSE.

04:41:58 mircea_popescu: the us is insecure BECAUSE of the dept of state and us army, not in spite of them.

04:42:05 mircea_popescu: air travel is insecure BECAUSE the tsa not in spite of it.

04:42:15 mircea_popescu: and the us crime problem is mostly a creation of the uspds.

04:42:57 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You forget the US pidgin Spite-Cause

04:43:15 mircea_popescu: hm ?

04:45:07 BingoBoingo: It is the redditards curse where they imagine the cause of their continued poverty and virginity is God's spite

04:46:13 mircea_popescu: a

04:47:09 BingoBoingo: Instead of their personal everythings being causes that inhere themselves with failure

04:47:44 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: did you and pascale hate it? << if the girl's frail and the guy big it dun work.

04:49:36 mircea_popescu: "When considering what jurisdiction in this world is or is not, or perhaps which one just might be ever so slightly closer to being the land of the free than some other's let us examine a snippet of text that enumerates a right of citizens of some actual jurisdiction the world which might give many people in the United States some pause."

04:49:40 mircea_popescu: dude that's abstruse.

04:49:51 mircea_popescu: why the when let's structure ?

04:50:14 BingoBoingo: It's how I thing, why I have to chew on shit so long or spout nonsense like in chan

04:50:20 mircea_popescu: i mean, it's normative, i can see it. "when we feel depressed let's take our clothes off and bellydance instead" that makese sense.

04:50:39 mircea_popescu: but why does it work for your thing ? you're not saying anything normative there.

04:51:09 BingoBoingo: I'm not sure it works.

04:51:23 BingoBoingo: at this hour.

04:51:48 BingoBoingo: I've since gotten drunk, that sentence attrocity was constructed sober

04:52:01 mircea_popescu: and since when the fucking hell does blasio have anything to say about resisting arrest ?

04:52:17 mircea_popescu: does he fucking have an opinion on restaurant meals too, like the previous idiot ?

04:52:47 BingoBoingo: Well De Blasio had something to say last week.

04:53:48 mircea_popescu: that missouri statute is such bs. all the 1st para is replete with "lawful arrest"

04:54:00 mircea_popescu: then the go on to say that the unlawfullness of the arrest is no defense.

04:54:05 mircea_popescu: who the fuck would live there, i wish to know ?

04:54:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20260 @ 0.00064057 = 12.9779 BTC [-]

04:54:49 BingoBoingo: Well, drunk in public isn't a crime there. Turns out nearly all US states have that BS

04:55:15 mircea_popescu: eh just move to korea already.

04:55:20 mircea_popescu: at least there's penis festivals there.

04:55:39 BingoBoingo: I've been mapping foot routes to mexico

04:56:10 mircea_popescu: so do the pds routinely pay small claims for pointless detaining professionals ?

04:56:32 BingoBoingo: Seems so.

04:56:37 mircea_popescu: like, police officer messed with plumber for an hour, now county has to pay $1500 plus lawyer fees

04:56:51 BingoBoingo: Oh, one of the dpb noobs challenged me to chess, and maybe?

04:59:34 mircea_popescu: http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/19/im-a-cop-if-you-dont-want-to-get-hurt-dont-challenge-me/ o look at that.

04:59:35 assbot: Im a cop. If you dont want to get hurt, dont challenge me. - The Washington Post

04:59:42 mircea_popescu: somebody thinks they're like alpha or something lol.

05:00:19 mircea_popescu: looking forward to the videos of them folks being beaten to death over a week or two, once the regime changes.

05:00:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.2818125 = 2.2545 BTC [-] {3}

05:00:35 BingoBoingo: lol, seems surprisingly likely

05:01:17 mircea_popescu: i intend to make a nice library. the memorial von flondor library, containing documentation of what happens to these folks once things change.

05:01:23 mircea_popescu: perhaps it'll help the next set stay affraid.

05:02:06 mircea_popescu: like a holocaust museum in reverse, so to speak.

05:02:34 BingoBoingo: lol

05:03:19 mircea_popescu: "and this was Sunil Dutta. he thought he was a cop. he thought he was pretty cool. this is sunil dutta with his wife and kids. this is sunil dutta with his dog.

05:03:38 mircea_popescu: this is Sunil Dutta after having beaten with a steel pipe for six straight hours.

05:03:47 assbot: Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3MMRPCS.txt )

05:03:47 BingoBoingo: !b 6

05:03:49 mircea_popescu: this is Sunil Dutta after having been drug behind a truck for two hours the next day

05:03:49 mircea_popescu: etc.

05:04:04 mircea_popescu: he thought being an asshole is okay. do you ?

05:04:28 BingoBoingo: Being an asshole is ok when you are cool

05:04:39 mircea_popescu: "it's not the police, but the people they stop, who can prevent a detention from turning into a tragedy."

05:04:44 mircea_popescu: herpy derp, we just work here.

05:04:54 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's okay for as long as it works.

05:05:00 ben_vulpes: "if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. "

05:05:35 BingoBoingo: The problem is overestimating one's cool and being an asshole beyond that

05:06:14 mircea_popescu: but this system where square faced mugs figure themselves alpha is unholy./

05:06:14 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "or find a bigger stick."

05:06:14 mircea_popescu: "These are young people who want a future of some sort and know that if during such frequent encounters their persistence in being might cease because either the officer, themself, or both are having a particularly bad day their life can end. " this made utterly no sense.

05:07:06 BingoBoingo: I might have gotten to a bit tipsy by then. Maybe I need to chew on these things a bit longer

05:07:28 mircea_popescu: dja know the hemingway manual of style ?

05:07:39 mircea_popescu: "cut all the words out. they're not needed."

05:08:06 mircea_popescu: "It is also a terrible calumny; cops are not murderers. No officer goes out in the field wishing to shoot anyone, armed or unarmed."

05:08:09 mircea_popescu: now how the fuck would he know.

05:08:19 BingoBoingo: I imagine I could do that, but... brain abused by AmerEnglish

05:09:59 thestringpuller: !last m s.mpoe

05:09:59 assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064057 BTC [-]

05:10:10 thestringpuller: $depth s.mpoe

05:10:12 empyex: thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Bids: 15140 @ 0.00064266 21877 @ 0.00063900 9400 @ 0.00063711 24350 @ 0.00063592

05:10:13 empyex: thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Asks: 14950 @ 0.00064339 68550 @ 0.00064459 15935 @ 0.00064465 39599 @ 0.00064563

05:10:51 mircea_popescu: "I know it is scary for people to be stopped by cops. I also understand the anger and frustration if people believe they have been stopped unjustly or without a reason. "

05:10:54 mircea_popescu: dude wtf lol ?

05:11:31 mircea_popescu: what does he know this schmuck. it's about as scary to be stopped by a cop as it's scary to be accosted by beggars, panhandlers and flyer guys

05:11:51 mircea_popescu: i guess it's scary if you're a shutin or something.

05:13:20 ben_vulpes: hikkikimori and they just don't know it

05:18:36 BingoBoingo: !up petenineteen

05:18:40 BingoBoingo: !up mpmcsweeney

05:24:42 ben_vulpes: professor of homeland security

05:25:05 ben_vulpes: right up there with doctor of communist economics

05:25:38 mircea_popescu: prime candidate for the salt mines.

05:25:54 mircea_popescu: "o i was just doing my job" "well... you got a new job now. git."

05:26:38 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

05:26:40 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 518.93, Best ask: 522.35, Bid-ask spread: 3.42000, Last trade: 522.5, 24 hour volume: 19171.51466362, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 534.14, 24 hour vwap: 503.979760013

05:27:01 ben_vulpes: so that's that?

05:27:25 mircea_popescu: awwww.

05:27:38 mircea_popescu: didn't i say yest today will be cry day ? or something to that effect.

05:27:42 mircea_popescu: o look at this "The practical answer is, that if you get a sympathetic jury, and may not get convicted; especially if you catch the cops lying and ditching evidence (standard operating procedure; really.) The cops? stories in these cases are a work in progress; they change depending on what comes up. If you (by some miracle, even though you?re entitled to it) obtain the Internal Affairs Investigation of the same in

05:27:42 mircea_popescu: cident that you?re being prosecuted for (See, Rezek v. Superior Court, 206 Cal.App.4th 633 (2012); you?re supposed to get it, but in the real world, you almost always never do), and the story that the cops told the Professional Standards / Internal Affairs Division Investigators don?t jive with the present one. They just make something up; all with the guidance of the DA?s office. Really. They fabricate enough

05:27:45 mircea_popescu: around their prior conflicting statements, to get some ?police procedures expert? to justify the unjustifiable."

05:27:55 mircea_popescu: i dunno people... where i come from something like this is enough to throw the thing out.

05:28:11 mircea_popescu: "i was supposed to get paper x, da didn't send it. motion to dismiss the case with prejudice"

05:28:17 mircea_popescu: judge dismisses the case and warns the da.

05:30:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6678 @ 0.00064266 = 4.2917 BTC [+]

05:31:10 BingoBoingo: It's reasons like this why I have a court date next week when I could have paid a fine to settle last year

05:34:19 mircea_popescu: so many years ago, i'm coming back to town. im in the back with a girl, driver and shadow in front. there's this roadblock on the local turnpike.

05:34:36 mircea_popescu: muggle comes over, sees the car, sees me, runs off.

05:35:04 mircea_popescu: officer in charge comes over, goes "hmmm... mr. p... would it be possible to ... uhm... look in the trunk ?"

05:35:12 mircea_popescu: "actually, yes."

05:35:25 mircea_popescu: guy's genuine surprise is all pervasive. "really ?!"

05:48:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13969 @ 0.00064339 = 8.9875 BTC [+]

05:52:59 ben_vulpes: the notion that cops would know one boggles me wee brain a bit

05:57:44 mircea_popescu: but anyway, for closure : the resistance to anything unlawful is not a right, it's a freedom. no court has or could have any authority to create a right out of it, or in any way to curtail it.

05:57:59 mircea_popescu: this includes police behaviour like it includes anything.

06:01:21 ben_vulpes: tonight on VAN: realtime impression tracking!

06:01:32 ben_vulpes: http://van-ads.com/venues

06:01:33 assbot: Vulpes Ad Network

06:01:33 BingoBoingo: Oh shit

06:01:48 ben_vulpes: i think it might even work

06:02:23 ben_vulpes: it's only going to register hits for people whose ad blockers are disabled.

06:02:30 ben_vulpes: what other caveats can i drop...

06:03:19 ben_vulpes: *yawn*

06:04:23 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how does it werk ?

06:05:14 ben_vulpes: when a request comes in to van-ads.com/venues/drinkingrecord/* i log the time to the db

06:05:36 ben_vulpes: nominally this db is designed for this sort of webby logging stuff.

06:05:37 mircea_popescu: so then adblocking doesn't rly do much, unless it kills iframes i guess

06:06:32 ben_vulpes: if it blocks the request, i never know. if the request goes through but the user's never shown the content, that'll log.

06:07:09 ben_vulpes: i'm leaning towards moving the venues list to the front page, and making a faq page

06:08:19 ben_vulpes: anyways, now we get to see who's actually serving content.

06:08:20 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2w7z0aB3l0&feature=youtu.be

06:08:21 assbot: This is my own private domicile and I will not be harassed....bitch! - YouTube

06:09:09 mircea_popescu: in other news : saw a chinchilla run from a sewer tonight.

06:09:12 mircea_popescu: like a rat would.

06:09:24 mircea_popescu: except this one... was a chinchilla

06:09:32 BingoBoingo: Impressive

06:15:48 BingoBoingo: Hola mexual

06:15:55 BingoBoingo: Or no tequila?

06:15:57 Vexual: hola

06:16:03 Vexual: no tequila

06:16:26 BingoBoingo: !up petenineteen

06:16:33 BingoBoingo: Hello petenineteen

06:18:55 Vexual: sewer chinchilla: I imagine well dressed mutants

06:19:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83600 @ 0.00064448 = 53.8785 BTC [+] {4}

06:35:26 Vexual: i should like a pet chinchilla

06:37:01 Vexual: it could rent my cats ferrari to go to the vet, and the tax office would go ahhh

06:45:05 []bot: Bet created: "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/

06:46:54 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

06:46:55 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 518.0, Best ask: 519.14, Bid-ask spread: 1.14000, Last trade: 519.2, 24 hour volume: 19141.47478817, 24 hour low: 466.07, 24 hour high: 534.14, 24 hour vwap: 507.156697482

06:48:11 []bot: Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/

06:57:12 []bot: Bet placed: 1.719 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 90(Y):10(N) by coin, 90(Y):10(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.919 BTC. Current weight: 99,966.

06:59:00 BingoBoingo: After 21 this month... Fuck 20% hashrate increases

06:59:11 BingoBoingo: Bt also love them

07:00:05 Vexual: thats a lot of silicone

07:02:25 BingoBoingo: ;;google giant silicone titties

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07:08:35 xmj: BingoBoingo: reddit.com/r/boltedontits

07:09:59 Vexual: gadzooks

07:10:20 BingoBoingo: http://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/linux-founder-linus-torvalds-still-wants-the-desktop.html

07:10:21 assbot: Linux Founder Linus Torvalds 'Still Wants the Desktop'

07:12:55 BingoBoingo: http://imgur.com/a/1PDRJ

07:12:55 assbot: Taylor Swift computer security quotes by @SwiftOnSecurity - Imgur

07:27:16 mircea_popescu: how the hell does that go, 31bn ?!

07:27:20 mircea_popescu: ;;bc,diff

07:27:21 gribble: Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.

07:27:24 mircea_popescu: ;;diff

07:27:24 gribble: 2.38446700388033E10

07:27:34 Vexual: american billions

07:27:56 mircea_popescu: ;;estimate

07:27:58 gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 27582404634.5 based on data since last change | 27389691889.7 based on data for last three days

07:30:05 BingoBoingo: If nothing else the ATC crisis has given me new respect for miners

07:31:22 Vexual: crisis?

07:31:44 BingoBoingo: %p

07:31:47 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.80 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1160.60 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s

07:31:56 Vexual: oh

07:32:08 []bot: Bet placed: 6.5 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 57(Y):43(N) by coin, 57(Y):43(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.319 BTC. Current weight: 99,875.

07:32:09 []bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 57(Y):43(N) by coin, 57(Y):43(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.319 BTC. Current weight: 99,875.

07:33:26 Vexual: wash that you mp?

07:33:27 BingoBoingo: Fucking miners

07:34:00 Vexual: niki minaj is buying up cexio with her adcents coin

07:45:34 Vexual: sup punk

07:46:07 []bot: Bet created: "Tesla stock below $225 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/1030/

07:46:25 Vexual: made any cool terminal things lately?

07:47:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.28 = 1.4 BTC [-]

07:48:00 punkman: nope, all the assholes want web interfaces

07:51:05 RagnarDanneskjol: lol

07:51:24 []bot: Bet placed: 2.02020202 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 63(Y):37(N) by coin, 63(Y):37(N) by weight. Total bet: 16.33920202 BTC. Current weight: 99,825.

07:51:26 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 93(Y):7(N) by coin, 93(Y):7(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.2 BTC. Current weight: 99,870.

07:52:21 Vexual: i heard the be controller is a bit shit

07:56:18 []bot: Bet placed: 1.00000001 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 51(Y):49(N) by coin, 51(Y):49(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.20000001 BTC. Current weight: 99,860.

07:56:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95900 @ 0.00064139 = 61.5093 BTC [-] {3}

08:15:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32100 @ 0.00063979 = 20.5373 BTC [-] {2}

08:16:25 *: fluffypony stretches

08:21:58 Vexual: g'morning fluffypony

08:22:05 fluffypony: mrningz

08:22:39 Vexual: what juju are you into today?

08:25:04 Vexual: monero, barbeque and an ale?

08:26:49 fluffypony: lol

08:32:32 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi4pzKvuEQM

08:32:32 assbot: Chet Faker - Gold (Official Music Video) - YouTube

08:38:20 RagnarDanneskjol: whoa

08:40:15 punkman: http://rt.com/news/181788-ebola-liberia-clashes-violence/

08:46:55 punkman: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/business/smallbusiness/yeswares-matthew-bellows-on-his-ironic-challenge.html

08:46:57 assbot: Log In - The New York Times

08:47:21 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTnxP7e7-YA

08:49:17 pankkake: http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/40800/title/PubPeer-Threatened-with-Legal-Action/

08:49:19 assbot: PubPeer Threatened with Legal Action | The Scientist Magazine®

08:50:02 pankkake: also, France now heavily "regulates" to de-anonymize OTC gold trading

08:54:41 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin under $100 before New Year" http://bitbet.us/bet/1023/ Odds: 10(Y):90(N) by coin, 10(Y):90(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.72244161 BTC. Current weight: 94,004.

08:54:42 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1029/ Odds: 35(Y):65(N) by coin, 35(Y):65(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.20000001 BTC. Current weight: 99,740.

08:55:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22105 @ 0.00064293 = 14.212 BTC [+]

09:05:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00063877 = 2.8106 BTC [-] {2}

09:15:09 RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/530251/how-to-break-cryptography-with-your-bare-hands/

09:15:09 assbot: Touching a Laptop Can Break Its Encryption | MIT Technology Review

09:15:35 RagnarDanneskjol: related stuffs: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6872188&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6872188

09:15:36 assbot: IEEE Xplore Abstract - Experiments on two clock countermeasures against power analysis attacks

09:16:07 Vexual: we've got a leftie

09:17:36 RagnarDanneskjol: ?

09:18:14 Vexual: did you read it?

09:18:55 RagnarDanneskjol: I would never post without reading, do not follow

09:20:25 Vexual: well the way i read it, if you have a wire protruding from your anus to an attacker, they can read your thoughts

09:21:18 Vexual: and they can tell if you're eating cheetos

09:21:52 RagnarDanneskjol: yea, something like that

09:26:34 Vexual: luckily, im transcoding tentacle pron, and my keys are safe

09:26:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00063749 = 11.0286 BTC [-] {2}

09:27:31 RagnarDanneskjol: TMI

09:27:55 Vexual: although i will be removing redundant wire from my ethernet

09:29:23 Vexual: the tentacle pron thing is a euphemism for adding obrusicating bullshit

09:30:18 Vexual: TMI

09:30:20 RagnarDanneskjol: sure it is :)

09:32:38 Vexual: thats my excuse

09:41:13 RagnarDanneskjol: http://nypost.com/2014/08/20/hundreds-of-believers-report-ufo-in-skies-near-nasa-in-houston/

09:41:13 assbot: Hundreds of believers report UFO in skies near NASA in Houston | New York Post

09:43:07 Vexual: ;;lasers

09:43:07 gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*

09:59:40 bexne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF7s4nFfGho

09:59:40 assbot: Wise Man And His Words wiley - YouTube

10:10:11 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W7XhJSPYvg

10:13:36 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W7XhJSPYvg adcents

10:14:56 mircea_popescu: "ebola-liberia-clashes-violence" certainly has a ring to it.

10:16:01 mircea_popescu: Vexual http://www.reddit.com/r/boltedontits shhh

10:16:01 assbot: reddit.com: over 18?

10:16:30 Vexual: more slicone than mps boudiour in las vegas

10:17:00 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/btc-difficulty-over-31bn-before-october/ whoa look at that go.

10:17:01 assbot: BitBet - BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October :: 10.25 B (63%) on Yes, 6.09 B (37%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 5 days | weight: 99`447 (100`000 to 1)

10:17:30 Vexual: fuckin juicy

10:20:44 Vexual: im tempted to bet

10:24:02 mircea_popescu: which way ?

10:24:17 Vexual: im going crosseyed thinking about it

10:24:43 Vexual: i guess id just copy what the others have done

10:26:32 Vexual: havent reall got anything better to bo with my bc for 3 weeks

10:26:41 RagnarDanneskjol: probably better to make your own educated decision https://coinplorer.com/Charts/Difficulty/BTC

10:26:42 assbot: Bitcoin difficulty chart and prediction - Coinplorer

10:27:42 Vexual: thanks rygar, ill add that

10:28:18 RagnarDanneskjol: If you have nothing better to do w/ yur bc, I can think of better ways to spend it

10:28:54 Vexual: do tell

10:29:08 RagnarDanneskjol: it will cost you

10:29:26 RagnarDanneskjol: my intel ain't cheap

10:29:41 Vexual: terms?

10:29:55 RagnarDanneskjol: lemme think about it

10:32:53 Vexual: whats say i teach you some stikes suited to your body type, and if you fail to deliver, ill teach you a better one

10:33:04 mircea_popescu: lmao

10:37:08 jurov: ;;ud stike

10:37:09 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stike | stike-{stahyk} verb.(originates from the word strike)to ignore or cut off communication to a person or group.

10:37:15 jurov: ???

10:37:52 RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/strikeprice.asp

10:37:53 assbot: Strike Price Definition | Investopedia

10:38:36 jurov: that made me even more confused.

10:38:43 jurov: vex sells body derivatives?

10:39:14 jurov: *bodily

10:41:47 pankkake: maybe body liquidity

10:42:00 RagnarDanneskjol: something like that

10:44:36 Vexual: watchu got then rygar?

10:44:50 mircea_popescu: lol

10:45:25 Vexual: in and out with dollars?

10:45:59 Vexual: hot boody shakin?

10:46:05 RagnarDanneskjol: ew gross

10:46:20 Vexual: you're lucky ive been shooshed

10:48:46 Vexual: otherwise id youtube you all the way to mexico city, you big loveable lug

10:49:51 punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: probably better to make your own educated decision <- looking at other's bets is an educated decision

10:50:01 Vexual: seriosly, ineed more vikings, whats your policy on syeroids?

10:52:08 RagnarDanneskjol: it could be I suppose, depends on what you qualify as educated

10:52:36 RagnarDanneskjol: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2167765-fantasy-football-2014-top-picks-and-draft-strategy-based-on-current-rankings

10:52:36 assbot: Fantasy Football 2014: Top Picks and Draft Strategy Based on Current Rankings | Bleacher Report

11:11:00 Vexual: i measure intelligenge by the abilty to process new imformation

11:12:23 Vexual: education might help

11:12:30 xmj: it doesn't

11:12:42 Vexual: it might

11:12:46 xmj: intelligence is >70% genetic.

11:12:56 RagnarDanneskjol: pretty close to this: 'The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.' A.E.

11:13:04 BigBitz: xmj I disagree.

11:13:18 mircea_popescu: <xmj> it doesn't << how would you know ?

11:13:21 BigBitz: I don't believe intelligence is directly related to genetics at all -- unless there is some proven medical study to provide that ?

11:13:43 BigBitz: That being said, even if there was, I'd take it with a pinch of salt also.

11:13:45 xmj: mircea_popescu: i'm currently reading through the Bell Curve, which gives lots of references to that fact

11:13:55 mircea_popescu: oh i see, the bell curve.

11:14:16 xmj: plus, reading those references.

11:14:26 mircea_popescu: intelligence as an innate ability is merely a qualifier. you don't got it, you can't play. otherwise, education is 99.x% of all intellectual performance, and that x is 10.

11:14:42 xmj: education is nothing but a cheap signal

11:14:45 xmj: knowledge matters

11:15:04 mircea_popescu: we;re not talking education as in "went to harvard"

11:15:26 mircea_popescu: we're talking education as in, i've been a sex toy to the master of field x for two decades.

11:16:23 xmj: oh i see, that's how you got yours

11:16:26 mircea_popescu: working on whatever whorley diode idiocy or whatever it is.

11:20:12 Vexual: ive met identical twin with different minds

11:20:40 Vexual: same dna

11:20:50 mircea_popescu: !up antonosika

11:20:55 Vexual: one needed advide to tie her shoes

11:21:08 RagnarDanneskjol: as opposed to ones conjoined at the head you mean

11:21:12 Vexual: one would convince you she needed your wallet

11:21:46 mircea_popescu: http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/how-the-other-half-works-an-adventure-in-the-low-status-of-software-engineers/ << these people.

11:21:47 assbot: How the Other Half Works: an Adventure in the Low Status of Software Engineers | Michael O. Church

11:22:34 mircea_popescu: how the other half works : they select a subset of reality that it's not okay to lie about, then lie about all the rest, which is fine because hey, it wasn't in the holy set!

11:23:00 mircea_popescu: the whole us is practically speaking an engless fractal implementation of exact anti-robustness.

11:23:06 mircea_popescu: s/engless/endless

11:25:09 punkman: that's painful to read

11:26:34 punkman: dafuq "it’s OK to fix prior social status because one’s present state (abilities, talents) is fully consistent with the altered past."

11:26:35 RagnarDanneskjol: its fascinating, I have good use for this at work

11:26:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00064293 = 3.3432 BTC [+]

11:28:09 Vexual: painful

11:28:20 Vexual: snap

11:29:08 Vexual: what did bill do wrong?

11:31:52 mircea_popescu: punkman exactly.

11:32:00 mircea_popescu: " It?s like formally changing a house?s address from 13 to 11 before selling it to a superstitious buyer: the fact being erased is that it was once called ?13?, one that will never matter for any purpose or cause material harm to anyone."

11:32:34 mircea_popescu: except... it is obnoxious as fuck for clerks to decide the management is "a supersitious buyer".

11:32:44 mircea_popescu: he knows what he's doing. apprentice wizard "consultant" does not.

11:32:56 mircea_popescu: moreover... suppose there's mail in transit for #11 or #13.

11:33:02 mircea_popescu: it's so broken there's simply no words.

11:35:46 Vexual: speakig of robustness

11:39:03 Vexual: does van ads have sales?

11:45:49 Vexual: can i haz job

11:52:42 Vexual: give me an email and a rate ben10

11:52:43 jurov: Vexual you could have done bitbet affiliate already

11:53:11 Vexual: benkays mmodel is more precedural

11:53:50 Vexual: i cant sell bitbet to victorias secrets

11:55:37 jurov: you want to advertise lingerie on bitcoin blogs? or the other way around?

11:55:59 Vexual: advertising sales is a two way business

11:56:16 jurov: that's not what i asked

11:56:27 Vexual: bitcoin is becoming ubiquitous

11:57:27 Vexual: i don't wanna sell advertisng

11:57:28 jurov: dude, if you're to convince vulpy tyou're up to the job

11:57:43 Vexual: someones gotta do it

11:57:52 jurov: then let get rid of these phrases

11:58:02 Vexual: which phrases?

11:58:07 jurov: i'm asking what are you gotta sell to victoria's readers

11:58:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 700 @ 0.00263533 = 1.8447 BTC [-] {9}

11:58:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20145 @ 0.00064364 = 12.9661 BTC [+] {2}

11:58:26 jurov: alpaca socks are unsexy

11:58:59 Vexual: well id convine vs to accept bc and find 10 blogs where buyers lurk

11:59:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6855 @ 0.00064386 = 4.4137 BTC [+]

11:59:35 Vexual: i prolly dotn have the skills really

12:01:04 jurov: no i guess you're just afraid to push your own ideas to some conclusion

12:01:18 jurov: no one else will do that for you

12:03:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.28165713 = 14.0829 BTC [+] {5}

12:03:51 Vexual: hey id be doing the dunt a favour for 2 bits on the coin

12:04:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.2631009 = 2.631 BTC [-] {2}

12:04:39 Vexual: but if i was him i wouldnt give me an email

12:06:08 jurov: much whore

12:07:08 jurov: ;)

12:08:49 RagnarDanneskjol: http://seekingalpha.com/article/2440965-is-jackson-hole-to-be-a-currency-event

12:08:49 assbot: Is Jackson Hole To Be A Currency Event? | Seeking Alpha

12:29:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 151 @ 0.00376061 = 0.5679 BTC [-] {7}

12:33:09 []bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 76.70854211 BTC. Current weight: 5,882.

12:34:02 chetty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGsFK52L0lk

12:34:02 assbot: Money expert, Merrill Jenkins Sr. (M.R.) - T.V. debate - YouTube

12:39:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13171 @ 0.00064386 = 8.4803 BTC [+]

12:39:24 pankkake: https://www.amagimetals.com/info/no-dollars-after-2016/

12:40:26 fluffypony: publicity stunt

12:40:38 pankkake: still a good one

12:49:32 punkman: http://www.musedcreamery.com/wp-content/gallery/milk-made-products/udder-milking-ad.jpg

12:54:18 mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol that stinks of desperation in the last degree.

12:56:40 RagnarDanneskjol: seems that way

12:57:36 RagnarDanneskjol: http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm34/DCNS336422/1217412519679.jpg

13:14:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/how-the-other-half-lives-or-michael-o-church-is-a-scummy-fuckwit/

13:25:05 fluffypony: the sad thing about IPv6 jokes is that almost no one understands them and no one is using them yet.

13:25:55 mircea_popescu: this makes them cool no ?

13:26:17 fluffypony: it's a joke:)

13:26:42 fluffypony: this one's for asciilifeform: the bad thing about Turing machine jokes is you never can tell when they're over

13:27:25 Apocalyptic: https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/433080081179611136

13:27:26 assbot: The implementation of stealth addresses for Mac that I tweeted about last week turned out to be wallet-stealing malware. Crap.

13:28:42 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic well at least he's still tweeting. the neobee thing he tweeted a lot about also turned to be a wallet stealing piece of crap

13:28:46 jurov: lol that's still a thing?

13:29:47 Apocalyptic: mircea, indeed

13:29:57 Duffer1: did they ever catch that neobee guy?

13:30:04 Duffer1: i've been out of the loop a while

13:30:47 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 "they" who they ? reddit ?

13:30:55 mircea_popescu: reddit caught a fart. does that count ? it tasted kinda ok.

13:31:01 Duffer1: ha

13:31:21 Duffer1: with that much $$ involved i assumed someone was looking

13:32:26 mircea_popescu: you assumed wrong. it is the incontrovertible right of people to flush their assets down the toilet.

13:32:33 pankkake: from the man himself "Shot by a keyboard warrior? Don't think I am too scared to be honest."

13:33:11 Duffer1: danng what a prick lol

13:33:57 mircea_popescu: pankkake who';s this, the 20something ceo of great valor ?

13:34:08 pankkake: yes

13:35:09 mircea_popescu: lol he's back taunting teh "investor" horde ?

13:35:27 pankkake: yes, happened a few days ago

13:53:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00064113 = 13.2714 BTC [-] {2}

14:18:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 824 @ 0.00064085 = 0.5281 BTC [-]

14:19:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3616 @ 0.00063905 = 2.3108 BTC [-]

14:36:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37523 @ 0.00063811 = 23.9438 BTC [-] {2}

15:04:42 ThickAsThieves: <+Apocalyptic> https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/433080081179611136 / LOLOL

15:04:44 assbot: The implementation of stealth addresses for Mac that I tweeted about last week turned out to be wallet-stealing malware. Crap.

15:07:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [+] {2}

15:08:41 jurov: that was know for several months as StealthBit... or this is different piece?

15:09:27 thestringpuller: mod6: if you get jammed up don't mention my name

15:09:32 pankkake: "Sucks for open source in general too." because it was open source?

15:12:26 mod6: thestringpuller: fuck the club dawg, i'd rather count a million bucks

15:21:18 thestringpuller: ;;google jeezy prayed up

15:21:19 gribble: Prayed Up (cool_assTAY) on Twitter: https://twitter.com/cool_assTAY; Lil Lody Ft. Young Jeezy - How It Feel - Foolish 2 Mixtape - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIMzvTQcAgM; YOUNG JEEZY LYRICS - Amen - A-Z Lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/youngjeezy/amen.html

15:47:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BTM] 605 @ 0.0018 = 1.089 BTC

16:00:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.56667065 BTC to 14`857 shares, 10545 satoshi per share

16:01:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 16.45632828 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1431 satoshi per share

16:11:50 BigBitz: Could someone explain how this company raised $13.5M? http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-api-developer-chain-raises-9-5m-funding/

16:11:51 assbot: Bitcoin API Developer Chain Raises $9.5m in Funding

16:15:58 BigBitz: Correct me if I am wrong here but isn't their whole business based on access to the 'open & freely downloadable' bitcoin blockchain? or am I seriously missing something?

16:16:56 jurov: simple, they heard about DERPs and want to get listed on MPEx

16:17:47 Duffer1: ha

16:18:26 BigBitz: Haha

16:18:42 BigBitz: Seriously though... I'm confused... $13.5M... :|

16:19:26 jurov: srsly, i just see it as second dotcom spilling over to bitcoinland

16:19:59 jurov: they could have raised 10x as much if there were rumors about fb/twatter integration

16:20:47 Duffer1: probably ip pump n dump, they're hopin for obscene buyout from paypal or dwolla

16:21:13 BigBitz: Insanity.

16:21:27 los_pantalones: BigBitz i too am confused as to what they do

16:21:32 los_pantalones: no one can explain this?

16:22:37 jurov: https://chain.com/

16:22:38 assbot: Bitcoin API - Chain

16:22:50 jurov: use curl to get your btc address!

16:26:36 kakobrekla: chain.com got 4mio vc or w/e

16:41:55 nubbins`: design for "what is bitcoin" posters about 80% complete

16:44:54 nubbins`: !up praeconium

16:52:57 asciilifeform: http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/records_management/ia_rds.pdf << lol, public catalogue of teh goodz

16:58:52 nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUSdEsr1Hw

16:58:53 assbot: Chad Vangaalen - City of Electric Light - YouTube

17:01:42 nubbins`: color palette for aforementioned posters: http://imgur.com/7ZH4nQX

17:01:42 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

17:03:03 pankkake: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/08/a-bitcoin-backbone/ <= I like the "But… but… Centralization!". the thing is great, but he knows already it will be misunderstood

17:03:04 assbot: A Bitcoin Backbone | The Bitcoin Foundation

17:03:15 nubbins`: http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2014/August/14-ag-884.html

17:03:15 assbot: USDOJ: Bank of America to Pay $16.65 Billion in Historic Justice Department Settlement for Financial Fraud Leading up to and During the Financial Crisis

17:04:13 pankkake: more than BNP, so it's not French hate after all

17:06:03 nubbins`: "No. Anybody can do what Matt has done"

17:06:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 693 @ 0.0013 = 0.9009 BTC [+]

17:06:35 pankkake: and the idea of a bitcoin backbone has been discussed here a while ago, btw

17:09:02 asciilifeform: ;;gettrust boolcrap

17:09:02 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user asciilifeform to user boolcrap: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=asciilifeform&dest=boolcrap | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=boolcrap | Rated since: never

17:09:34 asciilifeform: boolcrap: get in the fscking wot, comeon

17:10:18 asciilifeform: boolcrap: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets

17:10:18 assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]

17:14:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 210 @ 0.00256095 = 0.5378 BTC [-] {5}

17:17:33 thestringpuller: !s bitcoin backbone

17:17:33 assbot: 3 results for 'bitcoin backbone' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitcoin+backbone

17:17:41 thestringpuller: only 3 results pankkake

17:17:55 pankkake: not with that name

17:30:39 asciilifeform: re: by the author of the fake management article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8191181

17:30:40 assbot: VCs provide access to small growth businesses and will never have a lack of pass... | Hacker News

17:34:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.001349 = 0.5396 BTC [+]

17:46:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 52 @ 0.0116 = 0.6032 BTC [-] {3}

17:49:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/return-ozcoin-mining-pool/

17:56:55 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 65(Y):35(N) by coin, 65(Y):35(N) by weight. Total bet: 17.38720202 BTC. Current weight: 98,252.

17:57:00 ben_vulpes: sitting in the cafe this morning, makking in your enndos

17:57:17 ben_vulpes: "you know what else is long baby? the cucumber i'm growing in the bushes for you"

17:57:29 ben_vulpes: "i am a happy whore-ti-cunturalist indeed"

17:57:32 nubbins`: cucumber in the bushes

17:57:57 nubbins`: more like button on a fur coat amirite

17:59:16 BigBitz: los_pantalones I am glad it is (was?) not just me!

17:59:52 BigBitz: kakobrekla they got $13.5m

18:00:05 kakobrekla: even better

18:00:41 BigBitz: Heh, it's crazy.

18:00:44 BigBitz: Crazily bemusing.

18:01:08 BigBitz: It's like trying to comprehend nubbins` sell rates for Casascius coins.

18:01:58 nubbins`: :D

18:02:09 nubbins`: i don't even get em graded!

18:07:22 ben_vulpes: ;;isitdown bitcoin-otc.com

18:07:23 gribble: bitcoin-otc.com is up

18:07:59 ben_vulpes: ;;ident

18:08:00 gribble: Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'ben_vulpes', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None

18:08:02 asciilifeform: from the loltron:

18:08:03 asciilifeform: http://nymag.com/news/features/foreigners-hiding-money-new-york-real-estate-2014-6

18:08:04 assbot: Why New York Real Estate Is the New Swiss Bank Account -- New York Magazine

18:08:04 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot asciilifeform

18:08:05 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user asciilifeform: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=asciilifeform | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=asciilifeform | Rated since: Sun Sep 15 00:06:51 2013

18:08:35 ben_vulpes: wot under ddos?

18:09:02 asciilifeform: try it now

18:09:29 ben_vulpes: hm

18:09:39 ben_vulpes: ah, asciilifeform i'm not actually questioning you

18:09:48 asciilifeform: but my magic did expire, it seems

18:09:54 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot asciilifeform

18:09:55 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask asciilifeform!~asciilife@pool-71-191-53-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user asciilifeform: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 11 via 11 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=asciilifeform | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=asciilifeform | Rated since: Sun Sep 15 00:06:51 2013

18:10:02 ben_vulpes: ;;ident

18:10:03 gribble: Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'ben_vulpes', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None

18:10:03 asciilifeform: see, works

18:10:24 ben_vulpes: the php app thinger's misbehaving, or slow, or its my network conn.

18:11:28 dignork: coinbase, again http://pokerfuse.com/news/industry/2014-08-20-bitcoin-exchange-refuses-online-poker-transactions/

18:11:29 assbot: Bitcoin Exchange Refuses Online Poker Transactions | Pokerfuse Online Poker News

18:12:01 kakobrekla: dun worry, soon in eu.

18:12:47 dignork: this is actually an example of why address reuse might be a problem

18:20:16 ben_vulpes: !l m s.mpoe

18:20:16 assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00063811 BTC [-]

18:22:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00064114 = 2.2119 BTC [+] {2}

18:23:39 jurov: $proxies

18:23:40 empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

18:23:45 empyex: jurov: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (889 milliseconds), mpex.bz (1060 milliseconds), mpex.co (768 milliseconds), mpex.biz (754 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (979 milliseconds)

18:26:44 asciilifeform: ;;gettrust b00lcrap

18:26:45 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user asciilifeform to user b00lcrap: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=asciilifeform&dest=b00lcrap | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=b00lcrap | Rated since: never

18:28:12 asciilifeform: ;;rate b00lcrap 1 actual human, meatspace colleague

18:28:13 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

18:28:32 asciilifeform: wtf

18:30:52 Duffer1: boo1crap

18:31:15 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust boo1crap

18:31:16 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user boo1crap: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=boo1crap | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=boo1crap | Rated since: never

18:31:39 ben_vulpes: nm

18:34:34 nubbins`: !up CoalPowerGorilla

18:34:37 nubbins`: !up rake_boss

18:34:45 nubbins`: !up ADutchGamer

18:34:47 nubbins`: !up rrrrandom

18:35:11 rake_boss: noice

18:35:13 rake_boss: ass

18:35:14 rake_boss: tities

18:35:16 rake_boss: ass and tities

18:35:22 penguirker: New blog post: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/08/21_andreas-antonopolous-as-canonical-example-of-why-you-cant-trust-someone-not-in-the-wot.html

18:41:56 ben_vulpes: !down rake_boss

18:51:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.0006368 = 10.6346 BTC [-]

19:01:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00064193 = 10.4635 BTC [+]

19:02:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13215 @ 0.00064237 = 8.4889 BTC [+]

19:20:41 asciilifeform: http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/silicon-valley-and-the-rise-of-the-disneypreneur << from the management-con fellow

19:20:42 assbot: Silicon Valley and the Rise of the Disneypreneur | Michael O. Church

19:22:45 asciilifeform: !up b00lcrap

19:23:05 b00lcrap: test

19:24:08 kakobrekla: does not work.

19:24:18 kakobrekla: cant see that.

19:26:04 FabianB: ;;ticker

19:26:07 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 526.55, Best ask: 527.07, Bid-ask spread: 0.52000, Last trade: 527.07, 24 hour volume: 14556.39550260, 24 hour low: 510.0, 24 hour high: 534.14, 24 hour vwap: 520.31767669

19:29:34 asciilifeform: ;;rate b00lcrap 1 actual human, meatspace colleague

19:29:36 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user b00lcrap has been recorded.

19:31:24 mike_c: btc sale is almost over.

19:31:52 mthreat: comment from michael church claiming that people go to silicon valley and get a new life and a new face from plastic surgeons: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8179731

19:31:53 assbot: Right now, the hot commodity for corrupt officials, criminal billionaires, and m... | Hacker News

19:32:13 mthreat: I asked him for a source about the "new face" business, no response to my question

19:35:11 asciilifeform: mthreat: the 'new face' thing is probably pure conjecture, but if you could read russian (or chinese) you wouldn't need to ask for source material re: the rest.

19:37:30 b00lcrap: !up

19:37:35 b00lcrap: !up b00lcrap

19:37:37 asciilifeform: say it to assbot

19:38:48 asciilifeform: b00lcrap: welcome to the dark army.

19:38:54 b00lcrap: I made it.

19:40:17 asciilifeform: tell us about yourself, b00lcrap.

19:40:24 b00lcrap: well i am asciilifeforms mentor

19:40:33 asciilifeform: lo

19:40:34 asciilifeform: l

19:40:35 b00lcrap: he owes all of his successes to me

19:40:48 b00lcrap: asciilifeform invited me here, we work together at a crap farm

19:41:02 asciilifeform: b00lcrap also grows fine tomatoes.

19:41:11 b00lcrap: this is true, and potatoes

19:41:26 kakobrekla: i like potato.

19:41:26 asciilifeform: and the occasional 0day.

19:41:37 b00lcrap: i have grown an 0day once or twice.

19:41:44 b00lcrap: but it was low hanging fruit.

19:42:01 asciilifeform: as is the tomato. but they both taste mighty fine.

19:42:13 kakobrekla: potato is lower than low hanging fruit, still fine.

19:42:14 b00lcrap: i do windows malware / vuln dev mostly

19:42:15 jurov: c00lcrap, when is cardano shipping?

19:42:22 b00lcrap: never i think

19:42:24 penguirker: New blog post: http://contravex.com/2014/08/21/canadian-armed-forces-wazzuuuup/

19:42:27 asciilifeform: b00lcrap: is not involved

19:42:36 asciilifeform: lol

19:42:38 b00lcrap: yeah i never got a ticket on this ship

19:42:57 b00lcrap: most likely because i know absolutely nothing about anything that low level.

19:44:17 jurov: well :) so on what levels are you operating?

19:44:44 jurov: visual basic viruses?

19:44:47 b00lcrap: noo

19:44:53 b00lcrap: i hate visual basic

19:45:05 b00lcrap: i prefer something neatly written in x86

19:45:06 asciilifeform: jurov: b00lcrap and i work a day job together. quite unrelated to s.nsa.

19:45:13 b00lcrap: this is true

19:45:24 b00lcrap: i have absolutely never even met mr.p

19:45:37 thestringpuller: ;;ident

19:45:37 gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None

19:45:38 asciilifeform: jurov: presently, we're reverse-engineers..

19:46:02 jurov: decoders :)

19:46:10 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you remind me of Dexter from Dexter's lab.

19:46:13 thestringpuller: Did you have a lab as a kid?

19:46:13 asciilifeform: lol

19:46:16 asciilifeform: sure.

19:46:24 thestringpuller: Do you have a sister who would break your inventions?

19:46:28 asciilifeform: so now there's two of us peasants here with dayjobs.

19:46:38 jurov: does mircea know?

19:46:41 b00lcrap: are we the only one

19:46:41 thestringpuller: pfft I'm at a day job now

19:46:44 b00lcrap: who are still slaves to the man

19:46:45 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: no, had brother, whose lab i would screw with.

19:48:47 chetty: <asciilifeform> so now there's two of us peasants here with dayjobs.// might as well while they last

19:49:13 b00lcrap: i think they will be gone soon

19:49:27 asciilifeform: there was somebody else here who had one (moiety?) and then starved.

19:51:13 kakobrekla: theres quite a few more than that.

19:51:21 *: TomServo raises hand.

19:51:31 *: kakobrekla was never employed.

19:54:41 thestringpuller: sup fluffypony

19:54:50 fluffypony: wasssssup

19:54:55 thestringpuller: kakobrekla: is a bum

19:54:58 thestringpuller: CONFIRMED

19:55:09 thestringpuller: jkjk

19:55:21 thestringpuller: kakobrekla is the most enigmatic person here <.<;;

19:55:32 mike_c: nah, he's just camera shy.

19:55:57 kakobrekla: camera shy bum.

19:56:11 thestringpuller: your bum is camera shy?

19:56:30 mike_c: takes at least 10 btc to get that bum on camera.

19:56:39 kakobrekla: lol

19:57:27 lobbes: I would also qualify as one of these peasants; hell, I'm essentially a SQL monkey

19:57:50 b00lcrap: dam

19:57:53 b00lcrap: at least ur not an html monkey

19:57:58 b00lcrap: a

19:57:59 lobbes: this is true

19:58:38 chetty: victory!!! I have spent most of day fighting an obscure difference in compiler versions, I so love my job

19:58:49 asciilifeform: gcc 4.x-ism ?

19:59:56 chetty: yeah

20:00:32 asciilifeform: chetty lives and breathes 'mingw' ?

20:00:38 Blazedout419: sorry for the name change spam...some scammer was squatting my name trying to scam

20:00:39 chetty: noooooooooooooo

20:01:35 asciilifeform: chetty has somebody in the cellar hanging upside-down doing the winblows port ?

20:01:56 chetty: exactly

20:02:01 asciilifeform: aha.

20:02:27 jurov: and i today finally stumbled upon worthy wallet code to build on

20:02:29 jurov: https://github.com/haskoin/haskoin

20:02:30 assbot: haskoin/haskoin GitHub

20:03:28 fluffypony: hah hah

20:03:30 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750817.0

20:03:30 assbot: Darkcoin's Alternative To Tor

20:03:54 lobbes: lol... Darkcoin

20:05:28 BingoBoingo: jurov: That premise looks like "Dream come true"

20:07:35 BingoBoingo: jurov: Re: https://github.com/haskoin/haskoin I went to join their channel and now am op

20:07:36 assbot: haskoin/haskoin GitHub

20:07:56 BingoBoingo: And not left their channel

20:07:59 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol

20:08:26 jurov: which one? i don't see you there

20:09:12 BingoBoingo: Ah, spelling error

20:09:43 jurov: hue

20:18:32 BingoBoingo: !up Guevara246_

20:19:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.26837856 = 1.8786 BTC [+] {5}

20:21:22 asciilifeform: re: people who starved: apparently xah lee (old crackpot blogger, linked on me site) recently did.

20:21:25 asciilifeform: http://ergoemacs.org/misc/xah_as_good_as_dead.html

20:21:26 assbot: I'm About as Good as Dead: the End of Xah Lee

20:23:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.26302 = 1.3151 BTC [-] {2}

20:23:51 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

20:23:52 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 513.75, Best ask: 516.05, Bid-ask spread: 2.30000, Last trade: 513.54, 24 hour volume: 13878.37931625, 24 hour low: 510.0, 24 hour high: 534.14, 24 hour vwap: 520.896672788

20:24:30 thestringpuller: !last m s.mpoe

20:24:30 assbot: Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064237 BTC [+]

20:26:19 pankkake: As for her friends, they were almost exclusively other oppressed SJWs. Although friend is a strong term. She had many fights with them that basically boiled down to "stop complaining about your oppression, mine is more important." She was, essentially, a contestant in the oppression olympics.

20:28:16 asciilifeform: ars longa vita brevis. RIP mr. lee.

20:29:02 thestringpuller: moment of silence?

20:29:22 chetty: a contestant in the oppression olympics.//+++++

20:29:34 asciilifeform: silence >> eh, maybe when he's done dying

21:06:14 *: nubbins` cackles

21:06:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31585 @ 0.00063828 = 20.1601 BTC [-] {2}

21:07:34 thestringpuller: hey nubbins`

21:07:50 thestringpuller: can you send me an invoice in pm?

21:07:55 thestringpuller: like a one liner

21:07:59 thestringpuller: we can get the full invoice later

21:08:04 thestringpuller: just want quote for first payment

21:11:53 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

21:11:55 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 524.21, Best ask: 525.73, Bid-ask spread: 1.52000, Last trade: 525.76, 24 hour volume: 13536.79943406, 24 hour low: 510.57, 24 hour high: 534.14, 24 hour vwap: 520.793187559

21:12:08 asciilifeform: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7340013 << mr church has some very serious beef with teh-bezzle.

21:12:09 assbot: I've written about it at length already and don't choose to relive it in detail,... | Hacker News

21:33:41 ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPoqNeR3_UA

21:33:41 assbot: Star Trek TNG Ambient Engine Noise (Idling for 24 hrs) - YouTube

21:34:17 BingoBoingo: http://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053819/white-house-cybersecurity-czar-brags-about-his-lack-of-technical

21:34:18 assbot: White House cybersecurity czar brags about his lack of technical expertise - Vox

21:41:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20175 @ 0.00064283 = 12.9691 BTC [+] {2}

21:43:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3825 @ 0.00064426 = 2.4643 BTC [+]

21:50:04 The20YearIRCloud: finally

21:53:06 danielpbarron: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bvkweh2IUAAOlQ8.jpg "I DON'T use... plastic bags." << uses plastic bag.

21:54:31 mthreat: http://i.imgur.com/rg9Wt.jpg <-- pregnant woman complaining about jackhammers, while smoking a cigarette

21:55:42 jurov: i noticed the missing "fi" ligature instead lol

22:22:31 jurov: ben_vulpes: question on VAN, if i make, say 10x lesser bid that fraudsters

22:22:48 jurov: will the ads be shown 10x less often or not at all?

22:23:00 mike_c: the former

22:24:02 jurov: and what does 7d impression avg. mean?

22:24:39 ben_vulpes: average impressions delivered over the past seven days

22:24:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00064426 = 14.367 BTC [+]

22:24:50 ben_vulpes: it's a little wonky right now as i've yet to collect seven days of statistics

22:24:55 jurov: average over what?

22:24:56 ben_vulpes: jurov: ^^

22:25:04 ben_vulpes: average impressions per day.

22:26:31 ben_vulpes: i'll clear that up. been noodling on good wording, have yet to come up with anything that feels *right*

22:27:15 jurov: imma support pimps

22:28:30 ben_vulpes: pete's killing it

22:29:04 ben_vulpes: 175 impressions today alone

22:29:29 ben_vulpes: on track to*, and wave hands.

22:35:09 nubbins`: http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/kids/kids.png

22:35:52 nubbins`: jurov dat ligature

22:35:55 nubbins`: my eyes

22:44:56 ben_vulpes: life is full of vomit of some shade

22:45:12 ben_vulpes: kids, computers...

22:51:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.27086333 = 0.8126 BTC [+] {3}

23:11:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00063813 = 24.5999 BTC [-] {3}

23:17:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 62 @ 0.28962905 = 17.957 BTC [+] {4}

23:18:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 620 @ 0.00288745 = 1.7902 BTC [+] {13}

23:32:54 BingoBoingo: %t

23:32:55 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 6k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169

23:34:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00064403 = 2.4473 BTC [+]

23:37:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2988 = 1.494 BTC [+]

23:47:20 nubbins`: calc 40/[ticker --last]

23:47:35 nubbins`: ;;calc 40/[ticker --last]

23:47:36 gribble: 0.076995630498

23:48:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2740 @ 0.00064542 = 1.7685 BTC [+]