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00:00:47 asciilifeform: lol!

00:02:05 mod6: great song

00:02:08 mircea_popescu: mhm

00:05:03 asciilifeform: people whose budget is $50 have NO BUSINESS... << anyone have an idea of what hawaladars do re: minimal volumes ?

00:05:10 asciilifeform: i bet they happily move the 50.

00:05:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. they made women and children dependent on a man.

00:05:46 asciilifeform: wai, wat, hawaladars ?

00:05:47 mircea_popescu: ie, "offchain txn/poorcoin"

00:05:49 asciilifeform: aha

00:06:39 asciilifeform: i was specifically curious re: what a hawaladar in, e.g., usa, or eu, would charge to move 50 usd.

00:06:47 asciilifeform: as a kind of baseline.

00:07:02 mircea_popescu: he won't charge anything. how did the quote go,

00:07:23 mircea_popescu: "Some day, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a service for me. But until that day, consider this justice a gift on my daughter's wedding day."

00:07:28 mircea_popescu: there. that's the charge on 50 bux.

00:07:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41247 @ 0.00049243 = 20.3113 BTC [-]

00:07:36 asciilifeform: aha

00:07:39 asciilifeform: 'gifteconomy'

00:08:05 mircea_popescu: people who imagine endlessness is a natural phenomena need to spend less time cooped up in their rooms, dreaming up shit.

00:08:49 asciilifeform: to folks unacquainted with basic physics, mechanization gives a convincing illusion of 'phree stuff 4ever'

00:08:54 mircea_popescu: right.

00:09:15 asciilifeform: because all you need is, would appear to be, energy, and everybody knows that it comes from the mains socket.

00:09:28 asciilifeform: because god willed it.

00:09:48 mircea_popescu: and cryptographic security oozes out of the ether and miners are just this abstraction getting in the way of the ooze.

00:10:26 mircea_popescu: it will fill any shape and any volume we draw for it. because it must. because... god willed it!

00:10:38 asciilifeform: more generally, when confronted with the mechanical 'guts' of something, this type of person will answer 'get this away from me, it is unclean'

00:10:39 mircea_popescu: "i have never seen it do anything else before" and "who could have predicted"

00:10:43 mircea_popescu: apprentice fucking magicians.

00:11:01 mircea_popescu: where's that great disney cartoon of gavin & co

00:11:15 asciilifeform: 'sorcerer's apprentice' ?

00:11:26 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8gOh0wEgLg

00:11:27 assbot: YouTube Walt Disney Fantasia Mickey The Sorcerer's Apprentice - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxFy1j )

00:11:29 mircea_popescu: there. yep.

00:11:56 mircea_popescu: only thing missing being, mickey doesn't put on the sorcerer's hat to go to some conference

00:12:05 asciilifeform: !s the lifeboat mutiny

00:12:06 assbot: 0 results for 'the lifeboat mutiny' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+lifeboat+mutiny

00:15:01 asciilifeform: http://www.genericradio.com/show.php?id=3e13162d58d2fe5c << ancient radio play based on the tale (which i cannot at present find)

00:15:04 assbot: GENERIC RADIO WORKSHOP OTR SCRIPT: X Minus One ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxGoLr )

00:18:33 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> to folks unacquainted with basic physics, mechanization gives a convincing illusion of 'phree stuff 4ever' << Until you have to get Santino ready for an open casket funeral after catching every bullet at the tollboth.

00:19:14 asciilifeform: falling is flying until splat, yes, elementarily.

00:19:42 BingoBoingo: And one rarely has much choice in the splat

00:20:04 asciilifeform: choice, if any, was when jumping.

00:20:06 mats: re: previous SSD discussion (and many others), i don't mean to offend if i didn't specifically respond to you. i just had nothing good to say, but rest assured you have not been ignored

00:20:19 thestringpuller: i want moar ssds

00:20:31 thestringpuller: Put all the games on SSDs. no load time. heaven.

00:20:38 asciilifeform: mats: basic takehome lesson re: ssd is that virtually everything coming out the vendors' mouths is a lie

00:20:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00049243 = 10.7596 BTC [-]

00:20:58 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well on the way down they might try to contort themself to leave a particular shape of splat.

00:21:06 mircea_popescu: mats i dunno but i think silence is no way to offend

00:21:11 asciilifeform: mats: if application is safety-critical, buy a series of samples and test to destruction.

00:21:46 BingoBoingo: !up OmegaOne

00:21:50 OmegaOne: hi

00:21:50 mats: is not. tryna bring some life to an old piece of shit

00:22:17 asciilifeform: mats: then happily buy. back up periodically to actual disk.

00:22:40 OmegaOne: hi

00:22:58 mircea_popescu: once's enough OmegaOne. what brings you here ?

00:23:12 mats: mircea_popescu: ensuring others have room to save face is one of my varied sins

00:23:12 OmegaOne: How can i get rich off of bitcoin?

00:23:31 mircea_popescu: easiest way to make a small fortune in bitcoin

00:23:35 mircea_popescu: is to start with a large one.

00:23:49 OmegaOne: how much is $1000 worth in bitcoin land

00:24:01 mats: ;;calc 1000/[market --last]

00:24:01 gribble: Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "--last" in it. Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin.

00:24:19 mats: ;;calc 1000/[ticker --last]

00:24:20 gribble: 4.39290107187

00:24:22 BingoBoingo: ;;calc 1000/5000

00:24:22 gribble: 0.2

00:24:54 BingoBoingo: OmegaOne: roughly a fifth of a bitcoin at my current sell price

00:25:09 asciilifeform: meowmix is back ?!

00:25:20 OmegaOne: !s meowmix

00:25:21 assbot: 22 results for 'meowmix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meowmix

00:26:10 OmegaOne: hi

00:26:24 mats: OmegaOne: read logs (see topic) and get a cloak

00:26:31 asciilifeform: !down OmegaOne

00:28:02 BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t6ksp/coinbase_just_made_tax_accounting_unnecessary/cnw7j3f

00:28:03 assbot: ralphington comments on Coinbase Just Made Tax Accounting Unnecessary! ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxJPBP )

00:38:26 BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2t7nsb/i_grew_a_neckbeard_reading_this_bitcoin/

00:38:28 assbot: I grew a neckbeard reading this "Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignity" (note: Link doesn't go to the actual Bitcoin Foundation) : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQ4c4y )

00:38:30 BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski

00:38:49 pete_dushenski: cheers!

00:39:32 pete_dushenski: since scoopbot even likes davout more than me: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/22/the-problem-of-digital-identity-or-how-to-circumvent-blockchain-info-2fa-and-e-mail-authorisation/

00:39:34 assbot: The problem of digital identity, or how to circumvent Blockchain.info 2FA and e-mail authorisation | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1AQ4s3N )

00:40:06 pete_dushenski: yet another chapter in the "who could've predicted" chronicle

00:40:39 pete_dushenski: bc.i will just change your e-mail if you ask nicely

00:41:17 mircea_popescu: wut /1

00:41:36 mircea_popescu: lol you just social engineered blockchain.info ?

00:41:59 pete_dushenski: fuck, not even intentionally

00:42:00 pete_dushenski: but ya

00:42:30 mircea_popescu: well... best business practices security an' errything.

00:42:36 pete_dushenski: they actually just added this e-mail auth thing outta nowhere

00:42:49 mircea_popescu: at least you don't log in by filming your face

00:42:52 pete_dushenski: and it turns out that it created a loophole the size of texas

00:43:06 pete_dushenski: thumbprint!

00:43:40 BingoBoingo: "Wallet Inspektor" https://bitcoinos.org/what-is-bitcoinos/

00:43:41 assbot: What is BitcoinOS? | BitcoinOS ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxNQ9k )

00:44:00 pete_dushenski: if an e-mail and pwd were phishing or keylogged, the attacker just has to submit a form, wait two weeks, and voila!

00:44:03 asciilifeform: yet another 'os'

00:44:10 asciilifeform: i find these especially infuriating.

00:44:12 pete_dushenski: s/phishing/phised

00:45:11 pete_dushenski: phished* good grief

00:45:55 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: especially when there is no *BSD/kLinux to counter all of these Distro/k*BSD

00:46:47 kakobrekla: speaking of bc.info their page is showing 'cloudflare error 522' for more than an hour to me

00:47:03 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i don't care what it was made of, if you did not write an os, you did not write an os.

00:47:15 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why this peculiar dick-pulling, why pretend.

00:47:50 undata: asciilifeform: words, you can just tweet them

00:48:05 undata: then they get retweeted you see, and are true

00:48:09 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sure. I'm just saying why don't they pretend better. Instead of throwing on fake spoilers and calling a car customer, this is the "I put a sticker on it" sort of effort.

00:48:10 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and 'write an os', per the barest technical definition, is not high science; it's a standard 'boy scout badge' in school.

00:49:06 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: and 'write an os', per the barest technical definition, is not high science; it's a standard 'boy scout badge' in school. << You have an absurdly gross overestimation of the standards for Boyscout badges.

00:49:11 undata: asciilifeform: web devs have the idea that making something == cobbling together open source with tape, the less tape the better, and voila, app

00:49:48 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm speaking as someone who went in for a 'computer science' diploma at an entirely unremarkable american uni.

00:50:11 BingoBoingo: http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php/Computers << I am speaking as person who achieved computers merit badge

00:50:13 assbot: Computers - MeritBadgeDotOrg ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxOYda )

00:50:30 asciilifeform: wasn't thinking of literal boyscouts, no (i know precious little about them)

00:50:47 BingoBoingo: requirements now actually seem harder now than when I achieved it.

00:52:56 undata: the whole culture is full of fakers; why the surprise at this category of them?

00:53:01 BingoBoingo: Find out about three career opportunities in the computer industry. Pick one and find out the education, training, and experience required for this profession. Discuss this with your counselor, and explain why this profession might interest you. Report what you learn to your counselor. << Doing this one now I'd pick curmudeon as a profession, and ask why writing OS is not a requirement.

00:53:35 pete_dushenski: kakobrekla "schedule maintenance"

00:53:40 undata: this social media thing I think has created the notion that identity is a matter of self-definition

00:53:42 undata: rather than reputation

00:53:44 thestringpuller: o look a pete_dushenski

00:53:55 undata: leading to the mind-rot of multitudes

00:54:29 pete_dushenski: heya stringy

00:55:05 pete_dushenski: undata it seems to me that the popularity of sm is an effect rather than a cause

00:55:16 undata: pete_dushenski: self-reinforcing though

00:55:22 undata: there's a reward associated with the behavior

00:55:26 undata: retweets, w/e

00:55:27 pete_dushenski: the mind-rot has been baking in for a couple of decades

00:55:34 undata: I agree

00:55:52 pete_dushenski: that's just the cleaving of importance from "importance"

00:56:11 pete_dushenski: like russia from the usa

00:56:31 pete_dushenski: russia turns down would-be bond-buyers in droves

00:56:39 pete_dushenski: us media reports that "bond sale fails"

00:58:19 undata: there's something there but I'm not cutting to the root of it

00:58:53 undata: it seems alien to me that words mean precisely dick in the present

00:59:10 pete_dushenski: think of it as word inflation

00:59:20 pete_dushenski: and it's every bit as toxic as fiat inflation

00:59:32 pete_dushenski: creates all kinds of puffed up balloons

00:59:34 undata: right, the erosion of measures of value could very well fuck thinking itself which leads to the abovementioned

01:00:06 pete_dushenski: quite so.

01:00:41 pete_dushenski: when there are no barriers to entry, people get really rather confused

01:01:20 pete_dushenski: in response, they cling to whatever presents itself, quite undiscriminatingly

01:01:52 pete_dushenski: so it's a markov chain going from shiny toy to shiny app to shiny turd

01:03:11 pete_dushenski: as to "words meaning zero" it's more that we're privy, if not downright inundated, with words from people who don't know how to use them

01:03:38 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Boy Scout badges in a lot of ways represent American failducation, shit offered as sausage because cylindrical phenomenon.

01:04:01 pete_dushenski: our wots can be so much larger than we can biologically manage that the signal is drowned out by the noise

01:04:43 pete_dushenski: try spending your days on newspaper websites reading about "terrorism" and "celerities" and see if your noodle doesn't turn to mush

01:05:22 pete_dushenski: selective filtering is completely mandatory for a functioning brain, if not in fact the best definition thereof

01:05:48 mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> asciilifeform [..] << You have an absurdly gross overestimation of the standards for Boyscout badges << i dunno dude, i never got the "all girlscout nookies" one.

01:05:48 BingoBoingo: <pete_dushenski> try spending your days on newspaper websites reading about "terrorism" and "celerities" and see if your noodle doesn't turn to mush << Helps if you pickle it with ETOH aforehand for preservation.

01:05:54 mircea_popescu: some are fucking hard.

01:06:04 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see song, 'be prepared', tom lehrer

01:06:19 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it contains literally 90% of what i know re: boyscouts.

01:06:20 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's on the unpublished chart.

01:06:55 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSwjuz_-yao

01:06:57 assbot: Tom Lehrer- Be Prepared - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxTjx1 )

01:07:40 pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/HistoricalPics/status/558059008993820674 << 1 point for correctly identifying the laptop on the left

01:07:42 assbot: The difference that 25 years makes. http://t.co/Kq9vtUyU82

01:08:36 mircea_popescu: <undata> this social media thing I think has created the notion that identity is a matter of self-definition << has little to do with social media tho. it's more an outgrowth of the "civil rights" movement.

01:09:33 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/558068856577884160

01:09:35 assbot: The difference that 25 years makes. http://t.co/Kq9vtUyU82

01:10:28 undata: mircea_popescu: I read your piece recently on how enfranchising all makes for significantly less representation in the society

01:10:35 undata: enlightening

01:11:10 mircea_popescu: that's the problem, what appears on the surface as doing one thing ends up doing the exact opposite when very complex systems are involved.

01:11:32 mircea_popescu: this is known to medical practitioners since forever. russia's newbie statesmen (commies ) stepped in it with extreme regularity

01:11:41 mats: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/nicolas-cage-star-osama-bin-765597

01:11:42 assbot: Nicolas Cage to Star in Osama Bin Laden Satire From 'Borat' Director (Exclusive) - The Hollywood Reporter ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxUGeZ )

01:11:46 mircea_popescu: to the point it was pretty much comedic. they didn't TRY to do it. but they did it all the damned time

01:12:02 BingoBoingo: Ah /. prolly link-snipped because on chumpatron take http://slashdot.org/story/15/01/21/2052247/jim-blasko-explains-unbreakable-coin-video-2-of-2

01:12:03 assbot: Jim Blasko Explains 'Unbreakable Coin' (Video 2 of 2) - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxUInd )

01:12:14 BingoBoingo: ^ second day, second turd

01:13:43 pete_dushenski: undata mircea_popescu the term for this being, of course, iatrogenics

01:13:50 pete_dushenski: "harm caused by the healer"

01:13:52 pete_dushenski: see: http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/31/the-search-for-decency-and-the-opposite-of-iatrogenics/

01:13:53 assbot: The search for decency and the opposite of iatrogenics | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1ydPvwk )

01:15:02 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski yeah. taleb also very big on it

01:20:04 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: That's a pretty good summary of it. Gotta hide the smokes.

01:23:38 BingoBoingo: So... Bunch of girlies are going to destroy their knees this summer http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-womens-world-cup-lawsuit-artificial-turf-20150121-story.html

01:23:39 assbot: Women&apos;s World Cup to go forward on artificial turf - LA Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxXKaZ )

01:30:48 mircea_popescu: !up CoraCrisT

01:30:58 CoraCrisT: hey guys!

01:31:38 kakobrekla: hello

01:32:14 mircea_popescu: sup.

01:33:26 CoraCrisT: enjoying myself with gavin`s wannabee reformed theology

01:33:39 CoraCrisT: readin` the logs..

01:33:45 mircea_popescu: lol that's one way to put it

01:33:55 CoraCrisT: i`m still amazed

01:34:42 CoraCrisT: too bad he left so early..

01:38:07 CoraCrisT: so Kim Kardashian is publishing her new book/photo album called Selfie or Selfish... Amazon is selling a book with Satoshi`s posts from bitcointalk and gavin wants to hard fork bitcoin...

01:38:23 CoraCrisT: true history..

01:39:41 BingoBoingo: !b 2

01:39:41 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/28K0DHH.txt )

01:41:12 mircea_popescu: kim's book i'd buy.

01:41:31 mircea_popescu: madonna's book/photo album was pretty hot

01:41:36 mircea_popescu: (the one where she fucks naomi campbell)

01:43:25 *: CoraCrisT googeling now

01:46:28 undata: CoraCrisT: as if we all didnt just

01:47:49 mircea_popescu: what, srsly ? that's one of pop culture's most notable artefacts!

01:49:02 kakobrekla: hey, you are the pop culture expert!

01:49:18 BingoBoingo: God Damn. It won't be until round 4 of the Australian open that a Serena Williams / Alize Cornet rematch is possible.

01:50:00 BingoBoingo: Fuck, its worse, round 5, I skipped a round

01:50:19 mircea_popescu: that cornet chick's pretty good huh.

01:50:27 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so i am. professional curse.

01:50:47 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Good, but Exceptionally good against Serena specifically.

01:51:15 BingoBoingo: Usually when she beats serena she gets promptly knocked out of whatever tournament a round or two later.

01:51:46 BingoBoingo: But first she has to make it all of the way to round 5.

01:54:17 mircea_popescu: hm

01:54:38 *: BingoBoingo doesn't always invest on Forum/Reddit logic, but when I do, I do it from an informed position

01:54:59 mircea_popescu: and with a laser.

01:55:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00085967 = 4.2984 BTC [-] {9}

01:55:40 BingoBoingo: These occasions only happen a few times a year. Why not take whatever scam odds a shady book offers to turn no more than 0.2 BTC into 1 BTC.

01:56:09 mircea_popescu: what were the odds ?

01:56:56 BingoBoingo: It depends, but usually I win when odds in favor of Serena drop to under multiplying my stake by ten as the payout.

01:57:32 BingoBoingo: So far it has been incredibly +Ev for me personally, but dunno how long it will last as serena continues getting old.

02:00:58 mircea_popescu: !up bertani_

02:07:49 BingoBoingo: O.o nubbins` why aren't you giving us the blow by blow on this drama? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10232533#msg10232533

02:07:50 assbot: Scam Warning: WoodCollector ... ( http://bit.ly/1umOls6 )

02:13:00 asciilifeform: satoshi book << i have it.

02:13:45 asciilifeform: there is nothing evil in it, and the first page is 'this is public domain material, copy freely' even.

02:14:03 asciilifeform: convenient dead tree collection of the material.

02:14:25 asciilifeform: the author mostly resisted the temptation to add crud

02:14:27 pete_dushenski: i have it too

02:14:41 pete_dushenski: foreword by jeff berwick if memory serves

02:14:49 ben_vulpes: oh jesus i return

02:14:53 pete_dushenski: he of "i'm not going to prison" fame

02:15:02 ben_vulpes: undata recommended me an emacs config change that took *hours* to unsnarl

02:15:11 ben_vulpes: granted, 'twas my own fault for not unsnarling it more quickly.

02:15:26 ben_vulpes: ?rate undata -2 fucked my .emacs

02:15:26 undata: bwah hah ha

02:15:39 undata: w/e you gave into your own tooling lust

02:15:48 undata: I was merely a mirror!

02:15:53 ben_vulpes: dood there must only be one canonical window manager

02:15:55 ben_vulpes: and emacs is not it

02:16:10 ben_vulpes: tooling lust << no it's true

02:16:33 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] i don't know anyone that seriously thinks they have a model on it << severely lacking in the whole conversation

02:17:12 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i had no idea who. just read as 'some guy'. (skipped.)

02:17:39 pete_dushenski: wise

02:19:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform had a canadian "investment forum" thing

02:19:12 BingoBoingo: https://hashtalk.org/topic/29906/what-did-you-do-with-the-initial-ico-resources-investment << WFT'ening http://dpaste.com/2Y9D905

02:19:13 assbot: Just a moment... ... ( http://bit.ly/1umOWKq )

02:19:14 assbot: dpaste: 2Y9D905 ... ( http://bit.ly/1umOU5h )

02:19:32 mircea_popescu: then went nutso with one of the "libertarian island" things which smells a lot like scam.

02:19:43 asciilifeform: lol!

02:19:54 pete_dushenski: galt's gulch

02:20:03 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/so-the-dollar-vigilante-scam-ring-is-going-to-jail/

02:20:04 assbot: So the Dollar Vigilante scam ring is going to jail. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1umOXOr )

02:20:20 asciilifeform: incidentally, this is rather like selling 'superman's cape' sans flight

02:20:35 asciilifeform: (the 'galt's gulch' in the book - had an invisibility machine.)

02:21:18 mircea_popescu: myeah.

02:28:29 BingoBoingo: !up Pierre_Rochard

02:33:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2000 @ 0.00083238 = 1.6648 BTC [-] {8}

02:34:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2619 @ 0.00080581 = 2.1104 BTC [-] {8}

02:45:24 BingoBoingo: !up devthedev

03:16:11 BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli

03:20:00 felipelalli: I just wrote an article about my short experience in Qntra.net / #bitcoin-assets https://yeppudaproductions.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/qntra-net-a-toca-do-coelho/

03:20:03 assbot: Qntra.net: a toca do coelho | Yeppuda Productions ... ( http://bit.ly/1zxLfIz )

03:34:07 mircea_popescu: !up benjamindees

03:34:22 BingoBoingo: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/21/yes-i-was-a-racist-and-im-mentally-ill-shanley-kane-in-shocking-social-media-meltdown/

03:34:23 assbot: 'Yes, I was a racist' admits Shanley Kane - Breitbart ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiN3Fi )

03:35:15 kakobrekla: translated as "gang of noise" lol

03:35:38 mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/2Y9D905 << is this like... woodcollector, the "ceo" version ? ?

03:35:39 assbot: dpaste: 2Y9D905 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiNmjp )

03:35:41 mircea_popescu: ceocollector

03:36:51 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol.

03:37:21 asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/01/isc-biowar-kr-cn.pdf (scan) << usg use of bioweapons in kr war. detailed study.

03:37:26 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiNWOi )

03:37:49 BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: But means signal to noise. I assume Mike Hearn forked Google Translate too.

03:38:16 mircea_popescu: lol

03:38:28 kakobrekla: i like the gang of noise.

03:39:09 BingoBoingo: !up felipelalli

03:39:24 BingoBoingo: !up decimation

03:39:43 decimation: lulzy gavin conversation

03:39:55 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't get it. why are we thinking some ex-gf of some failed gofundme capitalist is famous or something ?

03:39:55 felipelalli: "gang of noise" makes any sense in English?

03:40:02 mircea_popescu: let her grow an ass like kim, make pics and come back.

03:40:43 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: She's the one who said something to the effect of Linux community needing to grow the balls to expel Linus or some shit.

03:41:06 mircea_popescu: and nobody cared.

03:41:07 kakobrekla: felipelalli well its a decent description of things. the name and the article. most people even fail to assemble that.

03:41:11 nubbins`: BingoBoingo was out all night

03:41:20 nubbins`: didja see where he called a guy a fag?

03:41:37 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Like a cigarette?

03:41:48 nubbins`: like a homosexual male

03:41:59 felipelalli: kakobrekla: Not sure if it is a compliment, but thank you!

03:42:32 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, like ChangeTip she too recieved venture capital for a blog.

03:42:37 kakobrekla: if it does not contain "fuck you" its a compliment.

03:43:03 BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Don't higher compliments on this channel normally contain "fuck you"?

03:43:03 mircea_popescu: lmao

03:43:07 mircea_popescu: wenture capital for a BLOG ?!?!

03:43:17 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed.

03:43:20 mircea_popescu: what exactly, to pay the blogspot hosting bill ?

03:43:28 kakobrekla: yes but those are different fucks.

03:44:05 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To pay the, worked for a cloud bullshit company, violated the non-compete, and needed merit washed.

03:44:06 mircea_popescu: these fucking imbecile children of their imbecile mothers already. oh, college is too hard for you ? let's change the admission criteria! you wanna start a business but you're as dumb as fuckinmg rocks ? that's ok, start a blog instead. you wanna be a hacker too ? fine, fine, just edit some pronouns in other people's githubs.

03:44:18 felipelalli: kakobrekla: lol.

03:44:18 mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea why anyone'd put up with it for five minutes.

03:45:03 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: And this is why I never got the appeal of 4chan except as distilled in retrospectives though Encyclopedia Dramatica

03:45:25 mircea_popescu: i thought ed mostly did lj

03:46:12 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Only at the start. Deviating so far from LJ is why it had a hardfork crisis the coredevs lost.

03:46:25 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The founding of the funded blawg http://blog.ameliagreenhall.com/post/what-it-was-like-to-co-found-model-view-culture-with-shanley-kane

03:46:26 assbot:   Amelia Greenhall — What it was like to co-found Model View Culture with Shanley Kane ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiQCeA )

03:46:49 mats: a lol.

03:46:52 mircea_popescu: ah

03:47:05 mircea_popescu: i thought the "coredevs" left because the guy grew up and the girl grew fat

03:47:13 mircea_popescu: well, she was always fat, but, whatever.

03:47:56 BingoBoingo: The girl was always fat, and weev was in jail. Girl fatlogiced a family and worksafe site then shuttered ED. The id didn't like that.

03:48:21 nubbins`: "everyone else is a goat the same age and gender as me"

03:48:28 nubbins`: mp i think that is actually burned into my brain now

03:49:08 mircea_popescu: anyway, so this entire "abuse", "racism" whatever libertard bullshit / paralegal paralogistic construction is finally reaching that necessary point in its evolution where it mostly consumes itself.

03:49:14 mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah well...

03:49:26 decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986212 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2015#986214 << did 'distinction' strike anyone else as rather arbitrary?

03:49:26 assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 18:11:24; gavinandresen: a soft fork means miners must upgrade, or their blocks will be rejected.

03:49:26 assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 18:11:39; gavinandresen: a hard fork means everybody running a full node must upgrade, or they will be on a different chain

03:49:40 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: This is why it is better to be a Ram than a goat. Sure, techinally you are sheep, but who can oppose you when you are angry? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk1fUzkqwbQ

03:49:42 assbot: Angry Ram takes on a 6 ton digger - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JiRqQP )

03:50:05 mircea_popescu: decimation how you mean ?

03:50:53 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for something consuming itself, it's astonishingly alive and kicking.

03:51:00 decimation: To my way of thinking, either the protocol is broken or it isn't

03:51:09 decimation: whether they want to create it or not, there is a spec

03:51:15 mircea_popescu: decimation contrary to what superficially is being claimed, bitcoin really consists of two consensuses.

03:51:24 mircea_popescu: one is the consensus that allows for new blocks to be mined.

03:51:33 mircea_popescu: the other is the consensus that allows for transactions to be accepted as valid.

03:51:34 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's more of a forest fire, and will burn until there is nothing to burn.

03:51:41 mircea_popescu: these two have a lot of overlap, of course.

03:51:43 asciilifeform: or until someone puts it out.

03:51:47 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ourobourus eating itself as of this year. New in the public discussions of that crowd

03:52:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i disagree, myself.

03:52:22 decimation: Labeling one consensus as 'hard' and another as 'soft' doesn't seem to be a good use of language

03:52:36 mircea_popescu: a fire affects everything, related or not. this is more like cancer : it affects the victim, but not the chasir he sits on or the op fucking them in the ass.

03:53:02 mircea_popescu: decimation that is happenstance, arriving from the very haphazard manner in which abstraction works out of the group of power rangers

03:53:16 mircea_popescu: they don't proceed from an in depth understanding of the thing, but merely by and by, as experience allows.

03:53:40 mircea_popescu: this worm's progress made them use those words because apparently one is more of a bitch than the other.

03:53:41 asciilifeform: !s the camel has two humps

03:53:42 assbot: 5 results for 'the camel has two humps' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+camel+has+two+humps

03:54:19 decimation: yes, that much is obvious: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-01-2015#985357

03:54:19 assbot: Logged on 21-01-2015 02:59:39; Luke-Jr: I think the db_config patch may explain why it works, but could be potentially inadequate for the current consensus rules

03:54:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so basically, im saying "this certain part of the us is now so infested, the cancer is mostly eating other cancer"

03:55:00 mircea_popescu: decimation Luke-Jr generally pretends that things he doesn't like don't actually exist. this is the case in pretty much every line he utters, crafted to support his particular mental issues.

03:55:23 mircea_popescu: in this case, he conveniently neglects the point that there is no \such thing as CURRENT consensus, in any way distinct from trhe actual consensus

03:55:28 mircea_popescu: as verified by a 5.x node

03:56:01 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> decimation Luke-Jr generally pretends that things he doesn't like don't actually exist. this is the case in pretty much every line he utters, crafted to support his particular mental issues. << Things like Popes

03:56:56 mircea_popescu: now, he'd like for it to be the case, obviously, because that'd imply that the "Work" the power rangers have been doing for the past year is worth more than zero, which is a proposition he holds dear for obvious reasons.

03:57:37 BingoBoingo: In much the same way he'd like a miner on a bench at BFL to have been a miner on his testing bench

03:57:41 mircea_popescu: right.

03:58:20 decimation: to be fair, he did express some level of interest in the foundation project. perhaps he knows what is really true in his hindbrain

03:58:49 mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose it comes as one of those "nobody could have predicted" things to these people that the entire pile of crap they've been amassing over the years can and for that matter likely will simply be thrown out and forgotten.

03:59:02 mircea_popescu: a naive stance, but then again neckbeards aren't exactly known for worldliness.

03:59:46 BingoBoingo: decimation: Probably to an extent. Luke-Jr has a rather sort of logical structure organizing his schtick which seems self consistent while entirely problematic.

04:00:39 mircea_popescu: "So his mom cut him off from wiping his ass for him when he turned 18 and now he thinks the ladies owe him blowjobs. I hope bitcoin collapses just to fuck this guy."

04:00:48 mircea_popescu: apparently reddit really likes me, in unrelated news.

04:00:51 *: BingoBoingo has been considering using one of those "Edgerouter Lites" as a desktop system.

04:01:01 BingoBoingo: lol

04:01:28 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Where was this?

04:01:45 mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughLibertarianSpam/comments/2rzhvq/bitcoin_thought_leader_takes_a_moment_to/cnmwalf << something that apparently exists.

04:03:46 BingoBoingo: Ah

04:12:59 decimation: asciilifeform: did you use libusb-0.1 or -1.0 to develop cardano? or are you just using the kernel mass storage driver?

04:14:22 mircea_popescu: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6783079&cid=48872369

04:14:23 assbot: Silk Road 2.0 Deputy Arrested - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0xzUa )

04:14:25 mircea_popescu: apparently some people get it.

04:15:28 BingoBoingo: The tragedy is I have an assload of modpoints atm, but can't spend them on this thread because I had to highlight the link sniping.

04:17:36 mircea_popescu: lol

04:17:50 mircea_popescu: i have nfi what all that is, but it sounds funny.

04:18:27 BingoBoingo: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=6783079&cid=48872465

04:18:28 assbot: Silk Road 2.0 Deputy Arrested - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0y3tF )

04:19:00 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically slashdot has "votes" but they get allotted at unpredicatable time intervals and expire.

04:19:09 mircea_popescu: uh

04:19:26 mircea_popescu: so the only way spamming it works is statistically ? gee.

04:19:34 BingoBoingo: Pretty much.

04:19:56 BingoBoingo: Pretty sure that contributed to our good /. run with pankkake

04:20:34 mircea_popescu: what was that again ?

04:20:41 BingoBoingo: but for story selection everything goes through the annoited editors anyway which is why some altcoin got two stories on consecutive days.

04:21:06 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what was that again ? << That time my personal blog was featured on /. thrice with no resistance.

04:21:16 mircea_popescu: aha

04:22:03 BingoBoingo: And featured thrice in 4 months

04:22:36 BingoBoingo: The first time was exactly one year ago +/- 5 days

04:33:10 BingoBoingo: !up hktud0

04:38:12 BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2t7nsb/i_grew_a_neckbeard_reading_this_bitcoin/cnwoeat

04:38:14 assbot: ButterNubber comments on I grew a neckbeard reading this "Bitcoin Declaration of Sovereignity" (note: Link doesn't go to the actual Bitcoin Foundation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0ArAA )

04:39:32 ben_vulpes: oh, reddit discovered the fundation?

04:39:44 mircea_popescu: you're famous nao.

04:39:48 mircea_popescu: dun fuck it up.

04:40:04 ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting for robert viragh to call my mother and tell her i hang out with nasty people on the internets

04:40:20 mircea_popescu: why your mother specifically?

04:40:29 ben_vulpes: because that's what he threatened to do!

04:40:36 mircea_popescu: lolwut

04:40:43 ben_vulpes: not even kidding

04:40:54 mircea_popescu: i guess hungarians have jew-close relationships with their mothers /

04:41:05 mircea_popescu: no wonder highest suicide rate in teh werld.

04:41:18 ben_vulpes: want to hear something else lispily amusing?

04:41:25 mircea_popescu: ok ?

04:41:42 ben_vulpes: stumpwm (a cl window manager) handles multiple monitors better than OS X.

04:42:01 mircea_popescu: i wasn't thinking os x is particularly good at any task.

04:42:03 ben_vulpes: "just works" is dead. has been for like 3 revisions now, but the rest of the world is finally waking up to it.

04:42:05 mircea_popescu: humor comes from contradictiyon

04:42:14 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Ever play with plan9 or its forks/distros?

04:42:22 mircea_popescu: "Table 'bitcoin.smf_boards' doesn't exist"

04:42:23 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, it was great for the adobe suite

04:42:27 decimation: usg's failure to properly implement fire department radio encryption (not that it is needed) could have killed people http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/New-Radio-Encryption-May-Have-Stymied-Communication-in-Metro-Incident-289075111.html

04:42:28 assbot: New Radio Encryption May Have Stymied Communication in Metro Incident, Sources Say | NBC4 Washington ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0B3pO )

04:42:32 ben_vulpes: basically purpose built for them

04:42:33 mircea_popescu: did tardstalk just move over the new design ?

04:42:40 mircea_popescu: the one a guy in sf made for $500k

04:42:49 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: not i, no.

04:43:04 ben_vulpes: my next operating system dabblings are going to be in bsds and gentoo

04:43:10 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ^ scoop for you

04:43:12 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: If they did, they haven't done it well

04:43:13 mircea_popescu: bitcointalk died ?

04:43:33 decimation: ben_vulpes: re: osx << it's been going downhill ever since 10.6

04:43:34 mircea_popescu: thanks god that italian dude did the cached version eh.

04:43:44 mats: all this gloom about forest fires makes me nervous, i am a mere vassal of USG with insufficient rocket fuel

04:44:08 ben_vulpes: decimation, yeah, that's the one.

04:44:13 ben_vulpes: i've yet to eat 10.10.

04:44:18 ben_vulpes: my time will come, i'm sure

04:44:33 decimation: I've been cursed with supporting osx at the office to some degree

04:44:42 decimation: ever try to make it actually work with nfs reliably?

04:44:45 ben_vulpes: their proprietary spreadsheet program will only save documents compatible with the version of itself that runs on 10.10

04:44:50 mircea_popescu: anyone remember who was the bitcointa.lk sysadmin ? i recall he was here.

04:45:04 BingoBoingo: c something or other

04:45:39 *: punkman wonders if bitcointalk will break all the old links after upgrade

04:45:42 decimation: mats: in the case of the link above, people died waiting for 'rescue' after a metro train became 'stuck' near some kind of fire

04:45:51 mircea_popescu: cedivad ty.

04:45:53 mircea_popescu: ;;seen cedivad

04:45:54 gribble: cedivad was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 1 day, 7 hours, 50 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <cedivad> Barber claimed that they were payments to suppliers, but he has still to prove that.

04:46:24 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell cedivad hey, now that bitcointalk.org is gone, could a full dump of bitcointa.lk be had for archival purposes ?

04:46:24 gribble: The operation succeeded.

04:47:36 ben_vulpes: ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin innumerable times and would like to continue.

04:47:37 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user gavinandresen has been recorded.

04:47:44 ben_vulpes: ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.

04:47:45 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user gavinandresen has changed from -5 to -5.

04:48:18 ben_vulpes: !rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.

04:48:19 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/611684fc1d533df2

04:48:53 ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gavinandresen.-5:8e4060d0c134fa8feda50c5e3e897056c40b5142c493f8d4371e8bbaf386085d

04:48:53 assbot: Successfully updated the rating for gavinandresen from -5 to -5 with note: has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.

04:49:00 mircea_popescu: anywya, ima be off now, all teh people wanting to pretend like you are talking in b-a but not really, you got at least six hours.

04:49:16 ben_vulpes: zing

04:49:28 BingoBoingo: scoopbot: fetch

04:49:47 BingoBoingo: scoopbot -fetch

04:49:54 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcointalk-is-down-migrating/

04:51:05 punkman: I doubt they will actually migrate to node.js crapolade before 2016, seems like a lot of work

04:52:39 BingoBoingo: punkman: Well, question marks exist for reasons.

04:54:20 decimation: lol http://www.businessinsider.com/google-active-users-2015-1 " In other words, 0.2-0.3% of all G+ profiles, about 4-6 million users, have made public posts in 2015. "

04:54:21 assbot: Google+ Active Users - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0CyEx )

04:56:10 punkman: decimation, so they are claiming 2-3 billion users total?

04:56:27 ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> [] lulz https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/558037792568410112 << and yet nothing on motherboard, despite twitter's "source" of Kari Paul, nominally a writer for the rag in question.

04:56:29 assbot: Today in Silk Road proceedings, prosecution showed that the Dread Pirate Roberts private PGP key was saved on Ulbricht's computer.

04:56:53 decimation: punkman: that's 2-3 billion signups

04:57:04 punkman: best SR timeline and notes http://antilop.cc/sr/

04:57:05 assbot: Silk Road Tales and Archives ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0CTad )

04:57:12 decimation: of which apparently 99.7% never actually use google plus as 'social media'

04:57:31 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Remember that time pankkake was like WTF is this giant incoming ATC transaction... And it was because in worst practices we had a private key together...

04:58:08 ben_vulpes: http://antilop.cc/sr/#trial << and yet nothing from today

04:58:08 assbot: Silk Road Tales and Archives ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0CYL2 )

04:58:37 BingoBoingo: Technology is cruel, but especially so to prosecutors.

04:58:38 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ya duh if the defense is "DPR was more than one person" then the obvious next step is "well and of course we shooped the key around"

04:58:47 BingoBoingo: Indeed

04:59:14 BingoBoingo: And of course then when Ulbricht returns e gets the archives of drama he missed.

04:59:57 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfuWXRZe9yA

04:59:59 assbot: The Who - Behind Blue Eyes (Original Version) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0DdWm )

05:00:09 mats: i wonder what price per coin was agreed to when he gave em up

05:01:19 BingoBoingo: mats: Probably "market" rate

05:01:28 punkman: 503 on qntra here

05:01:57 punkman: also on http://www.bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/

05:02:01 BingoBoingo: Fuck

05:02:24 BingoBoingo: No fucks nao, works

05:12:48 punkman: such opsec http://antilop.cc/sr/img/mrmike_tips_tricks.png

05:12:49 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0ESLD )

05:14:17 BingoBoingo: Fuck Chicago PD is the closest thing to actual LEX operation on 'Murican TV

05:16:33 BingoBoingo: The one flaw is the tactics they attribute to Big city specialized intelligence unit were normalized in small town PD long ago

05:21:09 asciilifeform: decimation: did you use libusb-0.1 or -1.0 to develop cardano? or are you just using the kernel mass storage driver? << it mounts as a standard mass storage dev.

05:21:33 decimation: ah. I'm trying to write driver using userland library, and am loathing usb

05:22:11 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo has been considering using one of those "Edgerouter Lites" as a desktop system << you don't want to do this, believe. i have freebsd running, but turns out that mips 'strip' is defective (can't be arsed to hunt for the endianism bug in it, could take a month) and half the ports tree won't build.

05:22:19 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it also is not an especially fast box.

05:23:47 decimation: asciilifeform: 'strip' as in stripping debug symbols?

05:23:47 BingoBoingo: Fuck, asciilifeform not for the lack of fast, but for the defective. I've had octeon suspicions like I have longsoon suspicions, but cock sucking mother fucker.

05:24:31 decimation: plus, what would you use for display? crt serial terminal?

05:25:47 BingoBoingo: decimation: I would use crt serial plugged into RJ port. I assume at the moment stripped means instructions as part of 64 are fucked because "octeon" and no one cares for poor MPIS.

05:25:52 BingoBoingo: *MIPS

05:26:10 BingoBoingo: Fuck I don't even care enough for MIPS to spell it right.

05:26:51 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: gentoo is reputed to run more or less correctly on it. have not tried personally.

05:27:15 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'strip' as in the util by same name on your unix box.

05:27:30 asciilifeform: decimation: libusb is not the loathesome part, but usb per se.

05:27:56 decimation: asciilifeform: indeed. little can be done to abstract the overengineered crazytown

05:28:20 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Ah. On non tard-86 I assume perserve userspace to allow pulseaudio cancer would poison any linux too much.

05:28:43 decimation: supposedly the linux that comes with the box gets good reviews

05:28:43 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 'octeon' doesn't have an audio card.

05:28:58 asciilifeform: decimation: all i can say is that it booted. once.

05:29:08 asciilifeform: (i didn't care for the closed-source kernel mod)

05:29:11 decimation: heh. does it have any usable bus interface?

05:29:19 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Pulse audio's salvation from fixing a kernel bug was a more general io concern if I remember right

05:29:35 asciilifeform: there's a usb socket on the board. comes filled with a 4g stick, no-brand aluminum pill.

05:29:59 decimation: so one could use a hub to add usb devices.

05:30:05 BingoBoingo: decimation: It has rj-45 jack, can emulate rs-232 over that for terminal I would hope or not a computer.

05:30:05 asciilifeform: also some gpio pins that are, afaik, not brought out; and two uarts, one of which is soldered to the 'console' jack

05:30:09 asciilifeform: 115200 baud.

05:30:51 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc there is an experimental openbsd port as well.

05:30:52 BingoBoingo: Why always 1 step forward and half a mile and a liter of hobo piss back.

05:31:00 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: oh and freebsd on octeon doesn't support loadable kmods.

05:31:07 asciilifeform: hope you didn't need any.

05:31:08 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yes, but requires NFS boot

05:31:23 BingoBoingo: For OBSD

05:31:23 asciilifeform: it makes a perfectly fine router.

05:31:28 asciilifeform: (freebsd)

05:31:29 BingoBoingo: Prolly.

05:31:37 asciilifeform: i'm connected through it even now.

05:31:43 decimation: I would consider purchasing it to replace the pc I'm using for that purpose

05:31:44 BingoBoingo: Just... routers are cheap.

05:32:25 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: routers with metal chassis, passive cooling, and removable mass storage generally are not cheap.

05:32:26 *: BingoBoingo though would prefer computer

05:32:46 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: For particular definitions of cheap

05:33:32 decimation: asciilifeform: cisco et.al. have been making $$$ selling versions of this kind of thing with crapware

05:33:39 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not readily available, rather. (the only real alternative i can think of, built from extant hardware, is 'pc engines' - if you can abide x86)

05:33:40 BingoBoingo: Edgerouter seemed a bargain, still seems best at what it is... just... disapoint that not as I hoped it could be abused into without the now apparent resistance

05:33:59 asciilifeform: cisco is not permitted in my home even unpowered.

05:34:18 decimation: asciilifeform: right, but I think they might use mips on some of their stuff

05:34:32 asciilifeform: the only one i've ever opened actually had a... 486.

05:34:33 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> cisco is not permitted in my home even unpowered. << Technetium even if it is a perfect catalyst not invited to the lab.

05:34:45 decimation: lol

05:34:57 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on account of my having far too much garbage as is

05:35:50 BingoBoingo: The lab is a construct of mine I posit as roughly equivalent to Luke-Jr's hindbrain. Probably flawed, but I hop at least not flawed in that way.

05:36:16 TomServo: have you guys checked out http://soekris.com/ stuff? I've been eyeing it up for my next router..runs obsd.

05:36:17 assbot: Soekris Engineering, Inc. | Single Board Communication Computers ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0HtVK )

05:36:27 TomServo: (not so budget)

05:36:42 decimation: TomServo: I was looking at their specs a few weeks ago

05:36:56 asciilifeform: TomServo: do they still ship ancient 'pentium' ?

05:36:58 decimation: apparently it's popular to mod the clock on thier boards with something better, to use for ntp server

05:37:08 asciilifeform: i was gonna mention it but was afraid folks would laugh.

05:37:23 TomServo: I've not yet ordered anything

05:37:35 decimation: http://www.febo.com/pages/soekris/

05:37:36 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0HDg3 )

05:38:02 *: BingoBoingo wants a ruthenium standard on wrist can not fault other's time foibles.

05:38:16 *: decimation wonders why 'adult' computer servers lack external clock input

05:38:26 asciilifeform: 'pc engines' (swiss) ships similar boards with modern amd (64-bit) cpu, rather than intel turds, for half the price.

05:38:36 asciilifeform: with published schematics, even.

05:38:41 asciilifeform: and linuxbios.

05:40:07 *: BingoBoingo just wants a MIPS64 workstation that doesn't exist since 68k descendants are stuck in robo-arms

05:40:26 BingoBoingo: s/exist/stink

05:40:37 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didntcha have a 'loongson' ?

05:41:06 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've been searching for one that doesn't cost anal virginity or another FBI door knock

05:41:27 asciilifeform: afaik not banned yet.

05:42:19 asciilifeform: why does it have to be mips64 anyway.

05:42:20 BingoBoingo: And yet I still have Treasury agent Broachwala's business card in case I want to confess tax crimes and not the mick/potato-nigger FBI agent's card.

05:42:31 decimation: honestly it's probably better just to buy an fpga board and roll your ow

05:42:53 BingoBoingo: Well MIPS64 or 64 bit 68k descendant of which I know none.

05:42:58 BingoBoingo: Because RAM

05:43:21 BingoBoingo: Disk only exists because electric grids suck

05:44:14 decimation: http://www.alvie.com/zpuino/ << free fpga 'soft' cpu

05:44:15 assbot: ZPUino ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0IiOy )

05:45:09 BingoBoingo: The age of many of these recent solaris patches shake my faith in SPAR64

05:45:14 BingoBoingo: *SPARC64

05:45:38 BingoBoingo: Which I like as an uncomfortable parachute.

05:48:10 BingoBoingo: Of the assemblies I am most familiar with 68k, but... If we are stuck with C machines until loper gets a CPU... If I have to do C machines the MIPS bare minimum of a C machine has a lot of appeal.

05:49:58 BingoBoingo: And MIPS routers suggests there are people making small process MIPS chips which ought to mean less RF emissions for that asshole with the white F-150 to pick up.

05:53:14 BingoBoingo: I dunno that the white F-150 is surveilling me, but...

06:02:56 *: BingoBoingo doesn't expect arrest, but "be prepared"

06:04:55 BingoBoingo: Everything is grave

06:14:30 mats: leave your private keys with me and i promise ill bail you out

06:15:06 mats: ;)

06:16:39 BingoBoingo: mats: Oh, if you understand anatomy well enough you can put private keys anywhere.

06:19:21 BingoBoingo: mats: Anyways since you declared allegiance to New Reno USG I have to assume polio USG is spending more then $100k per year chasing less than a prius in Buttstamp valued BTC.

06:19:48 BingoBoingo: No insult intended to you mats, all insults intended towards Obola

06:22:01 asciilifeform: Because RAM << 'edgerouter' came with 512M soldered down.

06:23:37 BingoBoingo: Sounds like enough for almost everything but respectable BTC node

06:26:35 asciilifeform: whateverthefuck fpga cpu << http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/cadbook/Chapters/Chapter13/mips.v << mips.

06:26:41 asciilifeform: basic example.

06:27:12 asciilifeform: (yes these are often given as homework.)

06:27:31 BingoBoingo: Problem is not lack of basic examples it is that a decade or two long wait for dataflow cadr CPU... seems ok...

06:28:04 asciilifeform: cadr cpu << go, download brad parker's.

06:28:59 asciilifeform: http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/index.html

06:29:00 assbot: Retrocomputing - MIT CADR Lisp Machines ... ( http://bit.ly/1yPyPfy )

06:29:25 BingoBoingo: Fuck, Imma have to learn shit.

06:31:20 BingoBoingo: Oh, this is a "red pill" machine

06:31:37 asciilifeform: wat

06:32:13 BingoBoingo: I took the red pill... two, in fact :-) << Quote from page

06:33:50 BingoBoingo: http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/index.html

06:33:51 assbot: Retrocomputing - MIT CADR Lisp Machines ... ( http://bit.ly/1CEfJWS )

06:36:12 BingoBoingo: Maybe the brain ETOH pickling is making my smash ideas that shouldn't be together, but... on a slow happenings day like today my brain needed chemical protection from the adverse effects of Reddit.

06:37:00 *: BingoBoingo also offer that yes the forgetfulness effect of drunk is exactly how one should avoid catching brain damage spread by Redditards.

06:37:00 fluffypony: oh noez, blockchain.info was down, now bitcointalk is down, err'one panic

06:37:16 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: It could be worse

06:38:53 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I got produce this week and today ate another whole broccoli. At it because steaming fit the timeline of busy at X, be still wanted ready food at Y.

06:40:54 fluffypony: that truly is a fate worse than death

06:41:48 BingoBoingo: Nah

06:47:43 punkman: fractal broccoli makes the prettiest salad https://thefourhourchef.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/istock_000011134261_romanesco.jpg

06:47:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CEhKT1 )

06:50:41 BingoBoingo: punkman: What's wrong with the plain kind get a 2-3 lb head and eat the whole thing.

06:51:58 punkman: BingoBoingo: yeah I do cauliflower,broccoli,onion,pepper,carrot salad often, it's great

06:52:02 punkman: no steaming though

06:57:08 BingoBoingo: Maybe I just do groceies odd, but broccoli comes in one giant piece so I figure most practical to eat as such

06:57:50 punkman: we don't have giant mutant broccoli here

07:00:42 punkman: I usually wash it, cut it down to smaller pieces, immerse in water+vinegar+salt and leave it in the fridge

07:04:58 BingoBoingo: What kind of midget broccoli do you get there?

07:19:25 fluffypony: reddit circlejerks over the weirdest stuff

07:19:26 fluffypony: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t9day/bill_gates_just_said_on_jimmy_fallon_the_future/

07:19:27 assbot: Bill Gates just said on Jimmy Fallon the future in Africa is about access to banking with cell phones and digital currency!! : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSpQYy )

07:19:40 fluffypony: OMG WORTHY OF *TWO* EXCLAMATION MARKS!

07:22:53 punkman: BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/XKQsbUW.jpg

07:22:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSqpS5 )

07:26:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1341 @ 0.00084997 = 1.1398 BTC [+] {3}

07:33:46 BingoBoingo: punkman: My drunk ass is going to sleep, and hopefully in my sleep I will fart enough to prevent explosion.

07:34:43 punkman: BingoBoingo, good luck ;)

07:36:26 BingoBoingo: punkman: I might seriously gas myself, but I am fine.

07:38:08 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/558166471856373760

07:38:09 assbot: So /CoinFireBlog are writing and encouraging spurious BS about GAW. Sue them /gawceo just destroy these halfwit clowns.

07:41:13 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/558167409174253568

07:41:15 assbot: So /CoinFireBlog are writing and encouraging spurious BS about GAW. Sue them /gawceo just destroy these halfwit clowns.

07:43:25 BingoBoingo: Also why the fuck is the total weight of Homero's conference bodyguards less than that I usually have on any given Friday?

07:45:34 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mega lol http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/01/21/russian_kalashnikov_ak_47_rifles_to_be_made_in_u_s.html

07:45:35 assbot: Russian Kalashnikov AK-47 rifles to be made in U.S. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CSu8PR )

07:46:11 *: BingoBoingo would rather see USian Mosin and SKS, but...

07:52:24 *: BingoBoingo admits he is drunk and full of hatorade right now, but can not understand why GAW is focusing its hate and traffic on 2coinfire.cf which merely threatens them instead of qntra.net which ended them.

07:57:01 BingoBoingo: !up AndrewJackson

07:57:38 AndrewJackson: thanks ;)

07:57:58 AndrewJackson: is bitcointalk down?

07:58:38 AndrewJackson: I guess it is ;/

08:03:01 davout: https://twitter.com/davoutplantaire/status/558172786808852480

08:03:02 assbot: /ingenico & /paymium team up to offer /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash payments on next-gen payment terminals! http://t.co/t4ZjmThL2g

08:32:45 Naphex: davout: grats on the intergration.

08:33:11 Naphex: davout: do they just hook to the payments api?

08:33:51 davout: that's the plan yes

08:34:02 Naphex: davout: on the new terminals or old ones as well?

08:34:07 davout: these terminals are not publicly available yet

08:34:10 davout: new ones only

08:34:33 davout: those with a sufficiently large screen

08:53:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4335 @ 0.00049947 = 2.1652 BTC [+]

08:57:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.10000301 = 1.2 BTC [+] {3}

09:09:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1800 @ 0.00085 = 1.53 BTC [+]

09:10:52 punkman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30915210

09:10:53 assbot: BBC News - ECB expected to inject up to €1 trillion into eurozone ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ev4OjV )

10:24:09 davout: http://burgerexpress.com/ <<< crank your volume up

10:24:10 assbot: Burger Express:Home ... ( http://bit.ly/15vgxmp )

10:59:46 davout: https://twitter.com/didlix/status/558211639582134273 <<< so apparently i'm a mean bullying troll :D

10:59:47 assbot: It’s really smart as a business owner to go around publicly harassing people /davoutplantaire http://t.co/3MvaixKHb5

11:29:27 davout: lol, bitch blocked me

12:22:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00049015 = 3.1615 BTC [-]

12:49:07 nubbins`: what, bitcointalk is down?

12:49:19 nubbins`: things were getting good, woodcollector started calling people fags

12:49:26 nubbins`: the scam thread made it up to like 23 pages

13:01:16 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYOTERciOU#t=55

13:01:18 assbot: Firefighters extinguishing a car fire goes wrong - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1yweDx9 )

13:33:33 thestringpuller: davout: makes me want to fulfill my dream of living in france

13:33:46 davout: thestringpuller: wai?

13:34:15 thestringpuller: took french classes half my life. and look a real life cool french person rite here on IRC!

13:34:24 thestringpuller: who make france moar appealing

13:45:31 davout: thestringpuller: you're australian amirite?

13:46:45 davout: or am i heavily confused?

13:52:48 thestringpuller: cazalla is aussie

13:52:52 thestringpuller: I'm US-ian

13:53:00 thestringpuller: From the fucking south, the dumbest of the dumb.

13:54:38 thestringpuller: davout: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t6oks/gavineries_irc_discussion_of_the_block_size/cnwg265 << this caveden guy is like that kid in class who just can't seem to understand the teacher so makes his own rules.

13:57:19 davout: he's an oldtimer

13:57:54 davout: his argumentation basically boils down to "prove me we shouldn't change what works"

13:59:46 davout: this pronoun-changing bzns keeps the butthurt flowing

14:14:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34250 @ 0.00049034 = 16.7941 BTC [+] {2}

14:43:01 kakobrekla: lulz ensured https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t8ppe/now_you_can_buy_a_trezorlike_hardware_wallet_in/

14:43:04 assbot: Now you can buy a TREZOR-like hardware wallet in less than $30 , take a look : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ck01mc )

14:44:04 kakobrekla: >Which expert's opinion do you want to see ?

14:44:11 kakobrekla: >Andreas Antonoplous, or Kristov Atlas would seal the deal for me; I'd say Peter Todd or Greg Maxwell would be best, but those dudes are super busy these days.

14:45:03 kakobrekla: i think i just blown my retard-o-meter

14:45:08 kakobrekla: dammit.

14:51:07 jurov: don't copy that stuff here then. can cause murderous rage for mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and others

14:51:23 jurov: oh these two aren't around. okay then :>

14:52:30 davout: jurov: lol

14:54:45 jurov: http://qntra.net/2015/xy/bitcoin-asseteers-embark-twitter-killing-spree/

14:54:46 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ck5Boz )

14:55:46 davout: jurov: lmao, i naively clocked

14:55:49 davout: *clicked

14:57:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00049823 = 7.8222 BTC [+] {2}

14:58:19 jurov: kakobrekla you see, nobody trusts assbot title extractor anymore

15:13:49 mod6: that hardware thingy looks like I should take a slapshot with it.

15:25:48 punkman: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-forum-bitcointalk-due-disk-failure-data-lost/

15:25:49 assbot: Bitcoin Forum Bitcointalk is Down due to Disk Failure - Data Lost - CryptoCoinsNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1CiLy9M )

15:26:12 kakobrekla: lol

15:26:47 mod6: maybe they'll have lost your ban. win!

15:27:18 kakobrekla: doubt they will lose all 4 of them

15:27:22 mod6: haha

15:27:50 davout: o noes, that mountain of butthurt took years to build

15:30:29 punkman: https://twitter.com/bitcointalk/status/558273534393217024

15:30:30 assbot: Data since Jan 21 21:44 UTC will not be automatically recovered, though if anything important was lost, I might be able to find it manually.

15:34:20 danielpbarron: what timing!

15:38:01 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/bitcointalk-is-down-migrating/

15:38:01 assbot: Bitcointalk is Down, Migrating? – Update – Disk Failure | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1CiNgrL )

15:44:17 thestringpuller: "This is reason we need new forum!"

15:44:48 thestringpuller: I wonder if in 20 years when IRC is still chugging along on freenode what will be of thermos' forum...

15:46:40 *: danielpbarron seriously doubts it will be on freenode in 20 years, or if there will even be a freenode

15:49:04 thestringpuller: freenode is already 20 years old

15:49:11 BingoBoingo: Prolly going to fork into "systemd-node" and "System D Nodes"

15:50:10 thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i think freenode will always have irc clients connected to it in the far future

15:50:28 danielpbarron: hey i'm still connected to efnet!

15:50:55 kakobrekla: ;;isup qntra.net

15:50:57 gribble: qntra.net is up

15:51:28 thestringpuller: danielpbarron: doesn't that say something on its own regarding the durability of irc networks?

15:51:28 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: EFnet used to be all of IRC except people who tolerated a particular server

15:53:43 danielpbarron: if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody important was there to write about it, did it make a sound?

15:54:24 thestringpuller: http://forum.efnet.org/viewtopic.php?t=5866 << beautiful

16:00:04 BingoBoingo: !up lobbes

16:00:13 BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski

16:01:40 davout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elQGa97sNFM&feature=youtu.be

16:01:41 assbot: Alternative Model Has Her Anus Cast In Bronze (Starring Rayna Terror) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1CiQlYS )

16:02:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00049947 = 10.9384 BTC [+]

16:02:08 lobbes: ty BingoBoingo

16:04:00 lobbes: BingoBoingo: so, even if I'm running 0.8.1, I should be good if I just stay put?

16:04:22 lobbes: I'm glad I discovered this place, man. Otherwise I would have been led off the cliff a long time ago

16:04:54 lobbes: The more I read, the more I realize I don't know anything. Nor do the bitcoin devs for that matter

16:06:24 davout: lobbes: that's actually a pretty good sign

16:07:30 lobbes: davout: That I've realized my ignorance? lel, yeah I guess that's the first step, right?

16:08:22 davout: that doesn't usually happen only once, but yes it's a good thing in the sense that it's an incentive to think more

16:08:27 kakobrekla: welcome to the world of grim.

16:09:30 lobbes: I gotta say, this 'thinking' thing has helped me in my professional life as well

16:09:48 lobbes: the whole 'don't just assume' thing

16:21:02 thestringpuller: davout: thinking is hard tho.

16:22:48 davout: brains burn lots of energy

16:23:12 thestringpuller: focus is probably the hardest part of thinking, only achieved through kung fu

16:23:27 thestringpuller: concentration training in a world flooded with information

16:24:30 davout: ability to focus is acquired by focusing, being through kung-fu, meditation...

16:25:03 davout: s/being/be it/

16:26:46 thestringpuller: i say kung-fu in traditional: "special skill acquired through much practice"

16:27:03 thestringpuller: i.e. kung-fu = practice/repetition in my context my apologies lol

16:27:40 thestringpuller: focus being acquired through all of the above, which are practicing/training

16:28:00 davout: ah, i didn't get that :)

16:28:06 davout: i ASSUMED doh

16:30:43 thestringpuller: !up lobbes

16:31:41 thestringpuller: lobbes: I like the saying, "Scammer until proven trustworthy."

16:31:47 jurov: dunno if kung fu helped me focus

16:32:55 jurov: it's more about acquiring useful muscle memory bits

16:33:45 lobbes: I remember reading something a bit ago that hit home; a lot of people make the mistake of 'reasoning from their own mind' without really checking external sources of information. Which is deadly if you are ignorant such as myself

16:33:55 jurov: but on other side, we were supposed to learn choreography and i was too lazy to force myself to remember it whole properly

16:34:11 jurov: if i did it would prolly help

16:34:11 thestringpuller: jurov: the interesting facet of that kind of memory "working memory", is it requires some effort of concentration to operate

16:35:07 kakobrekla: lobbes its not just you. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548257 relevant thread

16:35:07 assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 23:07:34; kakobrekla: i guess misconception add up over the years

16:35:09 BingoBoingo: lobbes: Well Maybe there's a hazard. It isn't ideal, but I don't know of a great version of bitcoin yet.

16:35:16 BingoBoingo: !up nubbins`

16:35:25 thestringpuller: like if you do a repetitive task that require repetition, it may also require focus

16:35:45 thestringpuller: in order to prevent mistakes

16:36:22 thestringpuller: lobbes: re: ignorance << The first step is admitting to knowing nothing.

16:36:34 thestringpuller: Most never reach this step ever.

16:37:10 lobbes: thestringpuller davout: yes, and I would agree that I have reached this 'realization' more than once

16:37:11 jurov: thestringpuller it's big difference between doing a simple movememnt properly and doing whole choreography

16:37:39 jurov: imo only the latter helps to focus appreciably

16:37:49 thestringpuller: jurov: yes. when it all becomes fluid like water I guess the conscious mind is not really present?

16:37:51 nubbins`: hi

16:38:05 kakobrekla: was that hi handmade?

16:38:12 nubbins`: yes, letter by letter

16:38:16 kakobrekla: k then

16:38:18 nubbins`: how do you run a website and not know how many drives failed?

16:38:21 nubbins`: "some"

16:38:30 nubbins`: o.O

16:38:59 kakobrekla: well the machine says "no hdd found" and he is sure there were present before.

16:39:09 nubbins`: heh

16:39:11 kakobrekla: they were*

16:40:35 BingoBoingo: Maybe his buddy Garr sold him scam CognitiveHDD

16:45:19 jurov: thestringpuller the conscious mind needs to be there to say what's next. many people struggled with it

16:53:18 Naphex: o/

17:03:12 BingoBoingo: http://boisestatepublicradio.org/post/parachuting-beavers-idahos-wilderness-yes-it-really-happened

17:03:14 assbot: Parachuting Beavers Into Idaho's Wilderness? Yes, It Really Happened | Boise State Public Radio ... ( http://bit.ly/1CiZUH4 )

17:03:17 BingoBoingo: !up lobbes

17:03:36 kakobrekla: !gettrust assbot lobbes

17:03:36 assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user lobbes: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/lobbes | http://w.b-a.link/user/lobbes

17:04:17 kakobrekla: !rate lobbes 1 easy cum easy go

17:04:17 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/7c500e691ce44fc4

17:04:56 kakobrekla: !v assbot:kakobrekla.rate.lobbes.1:4fd3561d6f226714f09b646ea053aef5102071a772336bf8a34ab8b2efface77

17:04:56 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for lobbes with note: easy cum easy go

17:05:18 kakobrekla: now you can selfvoiceyourself

17:05:56 mircea_popescu: !rated sturles

17:05:56 assbot: You rated user sturles on 29-Oct-2011, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: coupla deals over pp.

17:07:06 mircea_popescu: !rate sturles 4 I was hesitant to replace a 2011 rating before, however : Sturles is and has since the beginning been a pillar of the community.

17:07:06 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/091445207712a1a7

17:07:37 mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.sturles.4:3f9276f8f535402206a2b3271e74982696f84b71b759729a2837bbf58b0b7b15

17:07:37 assbot: Successfully updated the rating for sturles from 2 to 4 with note: I was hesitant to replace a 2011 rating before, however : Sturles is and has since the beginning been a pillar of the community.

17:07:51 kakobrekla: actually, here is the thing. if you just !rate over existing rating, the old date should stay. if you !unrate and !rate, it will put up a new one.

17:08:17 kakobrekla: idk if gribble works that way but iirc i made that call here

17:08:53 kakobrekla: !gettrust mircea_popescu sturles

17:08:55 assbot: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user sturles: Level 1: 4, Level 2: 39 via 22 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mircea_popescu/sturles | http://w.b-a.link/user/sturles

17:08:59 Apocalyptic: gribble just overwrites the rating date everytime

17:09:14 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you mean the date ? yes i know.

17:09:20 mircea_popescu: but wasn't the case pre january.

17:09:21 kakobrekla: [note] => I was hesitant to replace a 2011 rating before, however : Sturles is and has since the beginning been a pillar of the community.

17:09:21 kakobrekla: [since] => 29-Oct-2011

17:09:29 kakobrekla: date remains.

17:09:46 mircea_popescu: yup.

17:10:17 kakobrekla: just thought date is worth something and shouldnt be destroyed

17:10:25 mircea_popescu: yup. good call.

17:11:18 mircea_popescu: the fact that !unrate !rate cycle wipes it, but simple !rate update doesn't is actually the best of both worlds.

17:16:28 mircea_popescu: decimation: punkman: that's 2-3 billion signups <<< and yet, in spite of that claim (probably unsubstantiated, as all of these, but certainly more defensible in VC terms than anyone else's), g+ isn't worht anything.

17:17:03 mircea_popescu: if there's a better example as to why the "grow big fast" so-called strategy doiesn't work, here it is. google's own g+ is not worth naything in spite of 3bn users.

17:17:36 mircea_popescu: that watsapp no users claimed as however many seemed to be worth something when fb paid for them is no support of the theory. that g+ isn't worth anything IS counterproof.

17:18:03 mircea_popescu: because that's how proof works : that you didn't break into any houses all through the day of the 29th doesn't help you in court. that you did on the 25th, sinks you.

17:20:38 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well santa clause is allowed to BNE on the 25th me thoughts

17:20:43 thestringpuller: claus*

17:20:57 thestringpuller: maybe the entire point of G+ is to prove Facebook isn't worth anything?

17:20:59 mircea_popescu: nah, he only enters.

17:21:44 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes, actually, in a backwards sort of way it's exactly that. google can't afford to have zuck pretend like oh, "we're better than google". so if he tries they can go "heh, we're fb plus other things".

17:21:51 mircea_popescu: strategy.

17:22:45 thestringpuller: if that strategy succeeds, the bubble that is facebook maybe unprecedented upon collapse.

17:23:12 mircea_popescu: all bubbles are really the same size.

17:23:22 mircea_popescu: their nominal monetary value is not important.

17:23:45 thestringpuller: this is good point, the idiots will be left holding the bag.

17:23:53 thestringpuller: as is always the case

17:24:01 thestringpuller: look at cnet d00d

17:24:07 mircea_popescu: moreover, there's a maximal value of a bubble, when it pops. this is driven by the headcount and so forth, nothing else.

17:24:31 mircea_popescu: albania's bubble was like, 9x% of maximum. russia's a few years earlier, more like 60%ish. romania's a good 80%

17:24:33 punkman: http://venturebeat.com/2015/01/21/man-sold-facebook-ipo-shares-gets-46-months-in-the-federal-slammer/

17:24:33 assbot: Man 'sold' Facebook IPO shares, gets 46 months in the federal slammer | VentureBeat | Business | by Daniel Terdiman ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj3xge )

17:24:34 mircea_popescu: and on and on.

17:25:26 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: in a sense bubles have asymptotes?

17:25:34 mircea_popescu: quite.

17:25:45 mircea_popescu: not "in a sense". in all senses.

17:26:28 thestringpuller: just making sure I understand the concept.

17:26:32 mircea_popescu: bubbles are built not out of money but out of dreams, hopes and assorted verbiage. which is why money is such an approximative approach to attack them.

17:26:37 mircea_popescu: queue newton's despair.

17:27:07 mircea_popescu: in principle, some pacific islanders with their six acres of unarable land and fifty coconuts can make a bubble just as well as new york can.

17:27:27 mircea_popescu: and when it pops, it will be JUST AS destructive to economy & society, according to how close to the absolute maximum it got.

17:28:22 thestringpuller: yea. not many people are going to "front" the pacific islanders dreams with drugs, sex and rock & roll in the same way US-ians do with Sillycon Valley

17:28:29 mircea_popescu: so you think.

17:28:41 mircea_popescu: but in fact, sex, drugs and rock and roll are a permanence in human history.

17:28:52 thestringpuller: or at least I look at a bubble as someone fronting someone something

17:29:11 thestringpuller: be it ferarri's, hookers, blow, etc.

17:29:14 mircea_popescu: yeah. but the something in question chiefly is "social and economic preeminence"

17:29:17 mircea_popescu: it's not anything concrete.

17:29:36 thestringpuller: it can be "something" concrete like say a house.

17:29:45 thestringpuller: bought with vc money that will never be repaid

17:29:54 mircea_popescu: only if the something concrete like say a house is also something abstract like the meaning of a house.

17:29:57 thestringpuller: given to a business that burns it all in the form of salaries

17:30:04 mircea_popescu: bubbles are built out of signifiers not out of significates.

17:30:19 thestringpuller: Could you elaborate a bit?

17:30:34 mircea_popescu: these are terms of art, you go read up on language theoree :)

17:30:55 thestringpuller: i iz bad @ wordz

17:30:59 thestringpuller: thiz is why I liten to hip hop

17:31:37 thestringpuller: i understand "Get money", but "build wealth" not so much.

17:32:14 mircea_popescu: http://www.revue-texto.net/Saussure/Saussure.html << can start with old man s.

17:32:15 assbot: Saussure ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj4O77 )

17:32:50 thestringpuller: oooh. it's in french.

17:32:51 thestringpuller: <3

17:33:20 mircea_popescu: ironically, in spite of pierce's much more factually sensible theory, somehow saussure's seems more useful in practice.

17:40:02 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/drones-revolutionize-cross-border-drug-shipment/

17:42:30 mircea_popescu: !up sharp0

17:44:49 mircea_popescu: http://antilop.cc/sr/img/mrmike_tips_tricks.png << this is a pretty decent indication of what "drivinbg adoption" means.

17:44:50 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1t0ESLD )

17:45:21 mircea_popescu: having people who aren't really intellectually capable to handle email involved in bitcoin ? why ? "because they're people too" ? no, they're not people too. they're cattle too.

17:45:47 mircea_popescu: and this only speaks to whitey, people who have somehow fallen through the cracks of a lentghy history of literacy.

17:45:55 mircea_popescu: driving adoption in africa and central asia, god help you.

17:49:49 pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/22/central-banks-have-no-more-control-over-their-economies-than-gnats-have-over-elephants/

17:49:50 assbot: Central banks have no more control over their economies than gnats have over elephants. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj6Q72 )

17:50:33 mircea_popescu: well... if not yet then soon enough.

17:50:42 mircea_popescu: !up chetty

17:51:05 chetty: so on this mornings glenn beck show he went on at some length about how people would be turning to bitcoin as a way to protect idenity from all the hacking, he has big audience ..and he didnt say anything that was actually stuipd, for a change

17:52:00 punkman: mircea_popescu: driving adoption in africa and central asia, god help you. < imagining asian version of tips from husband now, scary

17:52:00 mircea_popescu: does he have recordings online ?

17:52:17 mircea_popescu: punkman right ? it's just... dude we did so very much to fuck up africa already

17:52:19 mircea_popescu: now this, too ?

17:52:23 mircea_popescu: can't they just get a break ?

17:52:37 BingoBoingo: chetty: Lizard Hitler doesn't need him to say anything stupid on Bitcoin. Other people will tell his audience stupid things and reasonable things abot Bitcoin might seem sstupid to other uninitiated people via naive association with him.

17:52:51 chetty: yes the blaze radio posts podcasts of all their shows

17:53:09 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wasn't this the guy that did a lot of gold and guns advertising, and pretty much sounds like a b-a alumni ?

17:53:57 chetty: yeah if he could get off the god wagon he would make a lot of sense actually

17:53:59 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To an extent. His relationship with particular gold vendors though apes Keiser's relationship with Aurora coin though. The "pay premium for particular coins" sort of scam

17:54:31 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah it smelled funny that bit but i never really looked into it.

17:55:18 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: "collectible" gold coins instead of... "Fuck you this is gold" scam.

17:55:49 mircea_popescu: chetty ironically ppl like danielpbarron are doing fine. i dunno that one's religious belief is an impediment. course this may really be a religion vs theology thing.

17:56:10 chetty: well in fairness collectible gold is what FDR didnt get

17:57:06 mircea_popescu: chetty yeah but in fdr's time the situation was, weak govenrment and strong population. today it's exactly the opposite.

17:57:24 mircea_popescu: kinda like trying to guess what parts will stay dry after a flood. hard job.

17:57:49 chetty: indeed, but the floods a comin for sure

17:57:57 davout: https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid

17:57:58 assbot: It’s really smart as a business owner to go around publicly harassing people /davoutplantaire http://t.co/3MvaixKHb5

18:00:26 mircea_popescu: davout you know, here's the thing with twitter : back when i had an account, i kept thinking all sorts of in retrospect bizarre nonsensical, fatlogic-y rationalisations for why i'm spending time there.

18:00:49 mircea_popescu: once they decided i killed poor anton (god rest his stupid, scammy soul), i discovered... whoa.

18:01:00 mircea_popescu: this is really stupid central and wtf am i doing there!

18:01:11 pete_dushenski: lmao

18:01:14 davout: yeah, i hear you

18:01:19 kakobrekla: looks like bitcointalk to me

18:01:19 mircea_popescu: habit is this insane thing.

18:01:23 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla pretty much.

18:01:25 Pierre_Rochard: ^ I sense I’m on that path too

18:01:37 mircea_popescu: now, in honesty, there WAS a time, in 2010, when pretty much all the good tail in romania was there.

18:01:37 kakobrekla: well, davout is the mod there..

18:01:40 Pierre_Rochard: like any bad habit, you hit rock bottom at some point and rethink tings

18:01:47 mircea_popescu: and so it worked as a good heuristic.

18:01:47 pete_dushenski: maybe we should have "#b-a divorces twitter day"

18:01:57 mircea_popescu: but a) it doesn't work in english and b) it doesn't work this decade.

18:02:09 undata: I mostly follow people from here, not so bad

18:02:26 davout: kakobrekla: i got some other french dude mod, so i can just pop in there from time to time and nuke the occasional noobie

18:02:42 kakobrekla: so a no-show job basically

18:02:48 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm prolly going to be stuck there because of this media startup and a need to follow RSS for dummies

18:02:58 davout: kakobrekla: yeah, i should b

18:03:22 davout: i should make a bot that moderates randomly so i get paid from the forum chest until they notice XD

18:03:49 mircea_popescu: lmao

18:03:56 kakobrekla: wait you get paid per action ?

18:04:33 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla see ? SEE what you missed out on ?

18:04:38 kakobrekla: :(

18:04:59 kakobrekla: meanwhile eurusd 1.137

18:05:58 kakobrekla: that 2015 parity bet (which i did not make) in bitbet queue is gonna get stale

18:06:13 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo if you want advice, the best advice is, use curl to pull up a shiotton of feeds, create a script that greps it by keywords with weight, create another that searches for rare words, and sort the whole thing in that order.

18:06:17 mircea_popescu: then just go through the list.

18:06:21 mircea_popescu: no "social media" needed.

18:06:34 undata: quick update before I dive into bezzeland biz, I bought deedbot.org for deed bundles, and the thing's two cron jobs and some code cleanup from being ready

18:06:46 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure, but that way there's less yelling at people.

18:06:50 mircea_popescu: undata cool!

18:07:11 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo fine, no divorce day then!

18:07:28 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: No, the rest of you can divorce if you want.

18:07:41 pete_dushenski: sniff, it wouldn't be the same...

18:08:31 mircea_popescu: you folks ever did teh divorce emo-scam ?

18:09:05 chetty: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150122/lt--argentina-prosecutor_killed-af1cdb5d41.html

18:09:05 assbot: My Way News - Argentina president says prosecutor death was not suicide ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cj9ABA )

18:09:21 mircea_popescu: o.O

18:09:28 mircea_popescu: wait. Cristina ?!

18:11:37 mircea_popescu: !gettrust jankoxp

18:11:37 assbot: jankoxp is not registered in WoT.

18:12:18 pete_dushenski: and here i was thinking that cristina ordered the thing

18:12:44 mircea_popescu: i was thinking the same think, an' even said some pretty hard words about teh woman

18:13:18 pete_dushenski: her's is a convenient reaction, perhaps

18:13:26 pete_dushenski: take the words out of everyone's mouth

18:13:34 mircea_popescu: or deprs who have a lot more to lose than her moving on their own accord.

18:15:44 pete_dushenski: i wouldn't think that the argentinian powers that be would move entirely independently from cristina

18:16:07 mircea_popescu: depends. she's old.

18:16:31 pete_dushenski: but she's in the top office

18:16:44 pete_dushenski: she didn't trip, fall, and land there quite by accident

18:16:57 pete_dushenski: she must have support from somewhere. she must.

18:17:00 mircea_popescu: yea, actually, she did.

18:17:06 mircea_popescu: her husband put her in so he can come back, then died.

18:17:11 mircea_popescu: the exact definition of "by accident"

18:17:32 pete_dushenski: a i c

18:17:52 davout: lol

18:18:30 pete_dushenski: but she's remained there for 8 years...

18:18:41 pete_dushenski: so she must still be pumping the right tires

18:18:52 pete_dushenski: or she'd have been out on her ass within the first year

18:19:02 mircea_popescu: you don't understand how oficialismo works.

18:19:15 mircea_popescu: as long as they didn't find her in bed with a live girl or a dead boy...

18:19:37 pete_dushenski: ha

18:20:00 pete_dushenski: oficialismo is a south american thing or just argentina ?

18:20:18 mircea_popescu: complicated, but in this particular nuance argentina.

18:20:25 mircea_popescu: venezuela has it's own thing.

18:21:32 mircea_popescu: !up chetty

18:23:37 Naphex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0o3TwZ6iE8

18:23:38 assbot: Platteland (1995) -- Roger Ballen - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cjcs1n )

18:24:31 mircea_popescu: fluffypony ^ ?

18:24:48 fluffypony: lol

18:25:09 mircea_popescu: sorry, you're my expert on the ground in sa, which interests me.

18:25:14 mircea_popescu: you're stuck with random pings

18:25:43 fluffypony: reporting live from the heart ^z^z^z^z leafy coastal suburbs of South Africa!

18:26:25 ben_vulpes: http://bubblear.com/224-accusation-unrest-last-nights-nisman-protest/ << mircea_popescu, for contrast to your claims re nisman silence

18:26:27 assbot: Just a moment... ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bi7fVU )

18:26:42 ben_vulpes: (bubblear known derps, but nevertheless)

18:26:56 mircea_popescu: lol

18:27:28 davout: fluffypony: afrikaans sounds so weird to a dutch speaker

18:27:29 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well they're cloudfired so i can'tsee it. what's the claim in summary ?

18:27:43 davout: zo raar joh

18:27:46 fluffypony: davout: I can imagine - Dutch sounds bizarre to my ears

18:27:56 mircea_popescu: davout the mugs look so weird to a mug-ologist!

18:28:00 fluffypony: !up rdymac

18:28:34 davout: to a dutch person, an afrikaner sounds somewhat like a drunk belgian

18:28:44 fluffypony: hah hah

18:28:48 mircea_popescu: lmao

18:29:01 mircea_popescu: valoon ?

18:29:20 rdymac: Thx

18:29:25 davout: nee, een vlaams

18:29:29 fluffypony: to a South African, Dutch people sound pretentious...but after beer #3 nobody cares and we're all the best of friends

18:29:39 mircea_popescu: een vlaams lol

18:29:42 davout: lol

18:30:02 mircea_popescu: pleesee loongeer vowweels

18:30:26 mircea_popescu: because we live in hillcoutntry, and it's one to the hill and in the fog.

18:30:33 davout: you know what they say about men with big feet?

18:30:34 mircea_popescu: can't hear each ootheer

18:30:52 Naphex: http://www.rogerballen.com/platteland/ - those snaps

18:30:55 assbot: Platteland | Roger Ballen Photography ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjdJ8q )

18:30:58 mircea_popescu: no, but i know what they do to girls with big butts.

18:31:19 davout: :D

18:31:20 fluffypony: actually the one thing that irritates me about Afrikaans is the double-negative, as in "ek het dit nie gesien nie" (literally: I have it not seen not)

18:31:32 fluffypony: like isn't one negative enough?

18:31:42 rdymac: The case of Nisman is obviously a really bad way to shut that guy

18:32:17 mircea_popescu: no, it's not./

18:32:17 ben_vulpes: cloudfuxxed

18:32:20 chetty: yeah but it spreads fear and shuts up more people

18:32:23 davout: fluffypony: but it sounds like the second negative doesn't actually count, amirite?

18:32:25 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: more or less that "there were peepul!"

18:32:31 mircea_popescu: chetty i somewhat doubt that was the plan.

18:32:44 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i didn't see it. obviously i don't keep the entire city under surveillance.

18:32:47 fluffypony: davout: yeah, and if you forget it then suddenly the sentence no longer "makes sense"

18:32:51 ben_vulpes: http://www.bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/03plaza.jpg << the wide shot isn't even terrifically convincing.

18:32:51 assbot: Just a moment... ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjdYR1 )

18:32:52 rdymac: It was not a suicide. The truth will be known way after, when it doesn't affect anymore the president

18:32:54 mircea_popescu: but you'd expect i'd see it. or at any rate i do.

18:32:55 davout: fluffypony: LOL

18:33:15 mircea_popescu: davout the negative doesn't actually cunt, you're right. yes means anal.

18:33:47 davout: mircea_popescu: you're such a mean harassing and hateful individual, also privilege

18:34:02 mircea_popescu: no means yes. no but no means no.

18:34:05 mircea_popescu: understand rape culture.

18:34:13 fluffypony: I thought davout was the mean harassing person for all the gavinharassing in that IRC log?

18:34:18 davout: i have a lot to learn

18:34:25 mircea_popescu: gavinherring is not a woman.

18:34:31 fluffypony: the reddits were all "OMG GAVIN HAS THE PATIENCE OF A GOD. HE IS TRULY A SAINT."

18:34:42 mircea_popescu: tho he possibly crosdressed in the past

18:34:49 mircea_popescu: seeing how satoshi may well have been

18:34:51 davout: fluffypony: no today i was the leave-the-pronoun-switcher-alone bullying individual

18:34:57 fluffypony: oh yes

18:35:01 fluffypony: ont he twitterz

18:35:03 ben_vulpes: davout: leave britney alone

18:35:09 fluffypony: you know the redditards are going to get you murdered off twitter

18:35:18 mircea_popescu: no that's not murder.

18:35:22 mircea_popescu: only when he does it.

18:35:25 fluffypony: especially on a day like today when Bitcointalk is down

18:35:30 fluffypony: they have nothing better to do

18:35:32 mircea_popescu: davout who are you going to twitterkill btw ?

18:35:43 fluffypony: I vote for Roger Ver

18:35:50 mircea_popescu: dude can't he pick his own ?

18:36:08 mircea_popescu: davout : TRIGGER WARNING!!!

18:36:09 davout: then comes along this random neckbeard, pretend-cto, that would totally penetrate my security, if only he had some time

18:36:14 fluffypony: no! he must be decentralised and let us vote!

18:36:28 davout: i dunno, i already did aanontop once or twice

18:36:36 davout: now i'm blocked, gotta find another one

18:37:33 mircea_popescu: wait, tardstalk is STILL down ?

18:38:03 davout: mircea_popescu: not enough donations it appears

18:38:05 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i will bet you that this is in no way upgrade related. has that smell of panic resulting from legal process.

18:38:06 kakobrekla: how long has it been? not much?

18:38:15 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla qntra reported it yest.

18:38:29 kakobrekla: a

18:38:30 davout: they said it was hdd failure

18:38:45 mircea_popescu: lol ?!

18:38:45 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Post is updated this morning to include their claim of hdd failure

18:38:46 jurov: you know, some hdds escaped... will take at least days till they catch all of them

18:39:05 mircea_popescu: and here i thought hotswappable arrays are common practice.

18:39:14 Naphex: jurov: well i'll telly ou, that if you don't have spare hdd's

18:39:23 davout: their HDDs were victim of their own success

18:39:24 Naphex: good luck finding compatible spares in less then 5 days

18:39:45 mircea_popescu: Naphex you know the marquardt idiot is sitting on like 5mn worth of donations / revenues ?

18:39:46 davout: or maybe it's their bank that's placing arbitrary access limits on their HDDs

18:40:01 Naphex: mircea_popescu: yeah, i've heard. which makes it way worsse

18:40:20 mircea_popescu: the plague of bitcoin : it empowered all sorts of people who, well... aren't really up to the task.

18:40:37 Naphex: not having spare hdd's available for your server, will make you rage so hard, while you call all the available suppliers

18:40:55 Naphex: ofcourse they won't have any available, especially for your raid

18:41:03 fluffypony: oh wow

18:41:09 fluffypony: I've just read the Twitter "thread"

18:41:12 mircea_popescu: Naphex the dcs that work with noobs generally (if well managed) do two things : only use a few specific types, and keep a supply on hand.

18:41:13 fluffypony: HE FORESAW THE VALUE COLLAPSE

18:41:22 fluffypony: he truly is the prophet of this generation

18:41:34 mircea_popescu: yeah, except "price collapse" != "value collapse".

18:41:59 Naphex: mircea_popescu: doubt anyone was monitoring those servers. HDD's give quite a few warnings before blowing up. Especially in raid setups

18:42:07 mircea_popescu: they may.

18:42:10 Naphex: red/yellow lights would be blinking

18:42:12 mircea_popescu: i have seen cases where they do not./

18:42:47 Naphex: prolly, but i'd rate that very rare events

18:42:48 adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2015#988045 << the trick is to kick it before you hit rock bottom, otherwise you keep saying, "oh, i haven't found the bottom yet, better seek onwards"

18:42:48 assbot: Logged on 22-01-2015 18:01:40; Pierre_Rochard: like any bad habit, you hit rock bottom at some point and rethink tings

18:42:49 fluffypony: it still boggles my mind that with all the donation money he can't afford to pay a part-time sysadmin to get them setup properly

18:43:02 mircea_popescu: Naphex very rare indeed.

18:43:19 fluffypony: it would take maybe a day to move that backend over to a Galera cluster

18:43:20 Naphex: i've had full hardware hosted and running for 6+ years. dozens of hdd's switched and replaced. maybe 1 complete raid failure on HP Proliants

18:43:46 fluffypony: how does he not understand points-of-failure?

18:43:53 mircea_popescu: Naphex i recently passed the 1k physical hdds lifetime award. and seen it exactly once.

18:44:20 mircea_popescu: fluffypony because he is a 24 yo derp exactly like any 24 yo derp you could get by sending a naked 23 yo hottie parading down the street.

18:44:20 Naphex: sounds right

18:44:49 Naphex: mircea_popescu: was using HP Proliants for a while, had one that the whole 8x raid array just barked, as soon as i replaced 1 hdd, the other would fail

18:44:56 Naphex: had to replace the whole array

18:45:24 adlai: re bct downtime... "is your hdd running? BETTER GO CATCH IT!"

18:45:25 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: theymos is 24? Fuck I'm getting old.

18:45:38 adlai: hey that makes me feel young again! \o/

18:45:39 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller something like that, 23, 24

18:46:03 fluffypony: maybe he's related to usagi.

18:46:10 thestringpuller: ^- lol

18:46:14 mircea_popescu: nah, usagi is mentally ill.

18:46:52 Naphex: maybe he used SSD's without the controller having TRIM support :))

18:47:00 Naphex: thats a new hipster way to blow up your stuff

18:47:24 fluffypony: lol

18:48:25 mircea_popescu: "Scientists have found that the 'cowgirl' position is responsible for half of all penile fractures during sexual intercourse"

18:48:51 mircea_popescu: this needed discovering.

18:49:04 mircea_popescu: wtf was it covered in ?

18:50:47 fluffypony: vigorous research

18:50:52 thestringpuller: huehue

18:50:56 mircea_popescu: lmao

18:56:36 mircea_popescu: https://safeorscam.com/karma << so is that pgp key block on the bottom of the page broken universally, or just MacGPG2 v2.0.17 decided to fork gnupg and not tell anyone ?

18:57:47 mircea_popescu: !up STRML

18:57:53 STRML: Thanks Mircea

18:58:11 STRML: Wanted to chime in, that key is working in gpgtools 1.5b2

18:58:44 STRML: there were some pretty serious bugs in some of the earlier 2.0.x versions, perhaps that is the issue

18:59:23 STRML: i'm on macgpg2 2.0.26

18:59:34 mircea_popescu: gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. ius the very helpful error i get.

18:59:47 mircea_popescu: anyone with an actual (nix) gnupg care to check ?

19:00:26 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/02d08070c291858320a1a4bc2719f279/tumblr_ng3vf2SjqH1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg << payment for your effort!

19:00:27 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjhA5n )

19:02:42 fluffypony: gpg: key 29D9246A: public key "Operation Atlas <admin@safeorscam.com>" imported

19:02:42 fluffypony: gpg: Total number processed: 1

19:02:43 fluffypony: gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1)

19:02:43 fluffypony: works fine here

19:02:47 STRML: mircea_popescu: working in linux mint as well, although I get a message about an invalid armor header

19:03:03 mircea_popescu: hm

19:03:11 STRML: gpg: invalid armor header:

19:03:11 STRML: gpg: key 29D9246A: public key "Operation Atlas <admin@safeorscam.com>" imported

19:03:11 STRML: gpg: Total number processed: 1

19:03:13 STRML: gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1)

19:03:34 fluffypony: STRML: that's because it's interpreting the \n as a line break

19:03:38 fluffypony: I think anyway

19:03:41 fluffypony: gpg: invalid armor header: mQINBE8wSNoBEAC3Bg08G6qZVa62svL60QktAWqWByK6MYaMc6MQOAQYXC3WxFtM\n

19:03:42 STRML: ah could be.

19:04:09 mircea_popescu: ah yeah, it works on stock ggp

19:11:52 mircea_popescu: an since there's two of you, http://36.media.tumblr.com/508f2365dc83e5147af096c30e0bd912/tumblr_ng3tnb7XDz1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg

19:11:53 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjjHGq )

19:13:28 kakobrekla: hmm

19:13:36 kakobrekla: i been there i think.

19:13:56 kakobrekla: just the timing was off apparently.

19:14:54 mircea_popescu: lol tis barcelona

19:15:49 STRML: I guess I live in the wrong city

19:15:50 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/cfdfa563eb6ea4cbda85e0ce24b74776/tumblr_ng3sl8lacM1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg << this is what asciilifeform missed out on :D

19:15:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjkuqM )

19:16:59 mod6: dang

19:17:51 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/c88fee11721145ae9fdb55d14a3e4d16/tumblr_ng3qxdgkxe1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg there you go mod6, moar outsdoor like, for you.

19:17:52 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1CjkRSc )

19:18:16 mod6: :D tyvm

19:18:55 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/973de9a76c1d60f52173199e053d9e25/tumblr_ng3qs8sdhy1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg me, i'm more of a city type.

19:18:56 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cjl3RC )

19:26:55 mod6: now, there's a stress-free job. go around taking photos of those girls.

19:27:14 mod6: every day is a great day! lol

19:30:17 mircea_popescu: you know, it actually is pretty shitty a job ?

19:30:42 mircea_popescu: it doesn't pay that much, you have to travel a lot, and what you don't see is that most hourlong shots take like 4 or 5, because constant interruptions.

19:30:56 mircea_popescu: the one guy i knew that was best at it used to be a war photoreporter before.

19:31:28 mod6: huh.

19:32:23 mircea_popescu: myeah.

19:35:06 mod6: well, i guess i can imagine.

19:36:33 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Sounds like enough for almost everything but respectable BTC node << actually, if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on "how to turn commercially available router into btc full node" i'd love him long time.

19:37:06 mircea_popescu: stuff like "desolder the 512mb card, replace with 128gb card" and "get kernel so and so in there" would be all fine.

19:37:34 mircea_popescu: if bitcoin nodes would cost something like 50 bucks and 6 hours' time off a computer-aware kid, that'd help immensely

19:37:57 mircea_popescu: because practically everyone has 4 hole router at home of which 2-3 holes are used. so get that plugged into the 4th and there we go, node problem fixed.

19:38:20 kakobrekla: i use all the holes

19:38:38 mod6: same

19:38:57 mircea_popescu: jesus

19:39:24 mod6: :D

19:40:16 mircea_popescu: you know if you use all the holes it means you got poor management

19:40:23 mircea_popescu: because there should be more holes being provisioned.

19:40:26 kakobrekla: very efficient

19:40:36 fluffypony: who even uses the holes, I use teh wifiez

19:40:45 fluffypony: wireless ALL of the things!

19:40:48 *: mod6 was on another tangent

19:41:09 *: kakobrekla switches tangent, not only routers

19:41:20 mircea_popescu: I USE ALL THE TANGENTS

19:41:34 kakobrekla: ascii has a tanget router

19:41:48 kakobrekla: prolly two.

20:26:03 kakobrekla: missed this somehow http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2015/01/andreessen-horowitz-invests-in-stack-exchange/?cb=1

20:26:05 assbot: Andreessen Horowitz Invests in Stack Exchange « Blog – Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3JiHD )

20:26:51 fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/gQSDSOS.jpg

20:26:52 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3JoyT )

20:29:34 danielpbarron: "People emailed me saying she is not a dog so i googled llama and she is a llama, and I am keeping her because she already likes me and my house."

20:46:00 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on 'how to turn commercially available router into btc full node' << the gadget i mentioned earlier, plus process, only need a larger - 64G+ - usb drive, to make this go. but i did not publish instructions, because did not think anyone wanted this.

20:51:42 davout: mircea_popescu: lol tis barcelona <<< the one with the mcdonalds flag is totally amsterdam

21:12:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3399 @ 0.00049223 = 1.6731 BTC [-]

21:15:21 nubbins`: asciilifeform total cost?

21:15:55 *: nubbins` blindly shuffles through logs

21:17:16 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: What did woodcoddler do to Bitcointalk?

21:17:36 nubbins`: i think u.s. customs ordered them to take it offline

21:17:43 nubbins`: because of the illegal wood importation

21:22:33 nubbins`: wts silkscreened butterfly labs dildos

21:25:29 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: You know what would be an interesting twist of the laser carved scam?

21:26:45 thestringpuller: !up felipelalli

21:27:17 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I'm thinking you set up the normal carved while you wait booth at the mall or carnival or whatever with your laser, but you plug in a joystick and a trackball to make it seem like you are piloting the laser manually.

21:27:47 nubbins`: heheh

21:27:54 nubbins`: semi-automatic

21:28:09 BingoBoingo: Seriously

21:28:34 BingoBoingo: Dude could call himself a master laserworker to get his margins back up

21:28:55 jurov: ;;lasers

21:28:55 gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*

21:29:07 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/kari_paul/status/558351397503393793

21:29:09 assbot: Ulbricht's college buddy just testified that Ulbricht told him in November 2011 he had already sold Silk Road to someone else.

21:29:17 BingoBoingo: ;;kittenlaser

21:29:17 gribble: Error: "kittenlaser" is not a valid command.

21:29:25 BingoBoingo: ;;kittenlasers

21:29:25 gribble: Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command.

21:30:04 BingoBoingo: ;;kittens

21:30:04 gribble: ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ .・( meow! )

21:30:10 BingoBoingo: ;;laserkittens

21:30:11 gribble: ุ ₍˄.͡˳̫.˄₎ ุ ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew*

21:31:33 midnightmagic: ehh.. the testimoney of a friend. what's that worth

21:32:26 BingoBoingo: probably some quanta of doubt

21:32:42 BingoBoingo: Convicting should be hard

21:33:18 danielpbarron: doesn't that testimony hurt him further? "he told me he stopped murdering in 2011"

21:34:45 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: His lawyer's hand was already force into admitting he started it and was the bag holder. Right now the fight is to shave off charges and years in jail while setting up traps to get it overturned on appeal.

21:37:13 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideal candidate for an instant pocket-sized ~100 usd (largely cost of eeprom) node - miniature 'nas' devices. there are at least half a dozen manufacturers. not hard to do.

21:38:14 kakobrekla: or like hp microserver

21:39:18 jurov: dunno all these are only meagerly equipped with memory

21:39:41 jurov: was main reason why i went with miniitx

21:39:53 kakobrekla: 16gig for the microserver

21:39:54 jurov: with full 8G ram

21:40:25 kakobrekla: prolly 100$ second hand, 200 or so new.

21:40:30 jurov: hp microserver with 16gigs for $100-200? where?

21:40:52 kakobrekla: was just stating max

21:41:02 kakobrekla: by default they come with 4 or 8 i think

21:41:35 kakobrekla: anyway i have one in my kitchen.

21:44:02 jurov: oh btw don't they have remote management like iLO? i'm not so superstitious like asciilifeform, but do avoid that, too

21:45:11 kakobrekla: that backdoor is sold separately

21:45:31 asciilifeform: imho, no to x86, no to fans, and ought to keep cost minimal.

21:48:04 kakobrekla: but yes for reliability. even if rpi wold be strong enough (hey he didnt say no to arm, though he prolly ment it) it wouldnt cut as the thing is fragile.

21:48:09 jurov: i was under impression all have ilo nowadays

21:48:25 kakobrekla: idk mebbe the new models

21:52:21 asciilifeform: 'raspberry?' terrible, terrible i/o. ethernet on same usb as the storage. no thanks.

21:52:48 kakobrekla: yes i know its terrible

21:53:05 kakobrekla: prolly most chicom nas is same

21:54:17 kakobrekla: btw those ARM servers that got in france, more than qualified to run this

21:57:09 danielpbarron: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19133/bitcoin-truly-decentralized-yes-important/#comment-1811838579

21:57:12 assbot: Is Bitcoin Truly Decentralized? Yes – and Here Is Why It's Important – Bitcoin Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4uQVl )

21:59:35 thestringpuller: can qntra just kill bitcoin magazine already?

22:00:19 jurov: another murderous rage victim?

22:01:54 jurov: let's decentralize our mind itself! i heard THC or LSD can be used

22:02:10 danielpbarron: voorhees pretending MPEx doesn't exist

22:06:02 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/01/kidnappers-demand-ransom-be-paid-with-bitcoin/

22:06:12 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: To be fair his settlement bars him from Bitcoin securities for a while

22:09:12 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: those ARM servers that got in france, more than qualified to run this << what do they cost? iirc mircea was asking for a dirt-cheap gadget

22:09:29 kakobrekla: cant be bought afaik hehe

22:12:12 davout: danielpbarron: "voorhees pretending MPEx doesn't exist" <<< how is he doing that?

22:13:55 danielpbarron: his opening argument is about how coinbase is the premire bitcoin service

22:16:08 davout: ah

22:16:20 danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbR6iQ62v9k << live troll box!

22:16:22 assbot: The YouTube Interview with President Obama - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4zJOi )

22:24:08 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i was sorta assuming that mircea was posing the problem of whether a node could be optimized for 1) minimal cost 2) physical compactness in that order, perhaps to be airdropped behind enemy lines

22:24:57 kakobrekla: aha prolly yea

22:25:50 danielpbarron: wow, the topic of "cyber security" is being covered by someone named "GloZell," a youtuber famous for filling her bathtub with milk and cereal and swiming in it

22:28:29 mircea_popescu: not bad.

22:30:26 asciilifeform: jurov: to pose the question of 'hardware diddlery' for a machine in one's kitchen, can be called superstition; to pose the same question re: xxx thousand physically identical bitcoin nodes airdropped over enemy country, is stark rationality.

22:30:27 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/6dacbc6201bea84c969f0ea3b0b86d2f/tumblr_ng3pe9d8Sy1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg (also not bad)

22:30:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Dfs2 )

22:35:14 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol who the fuck is badbitcoin.org

22:36:02 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Some derp "scam spotting" service.

22:36:28 mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean, who as in what person.

22:36:44 mircea_popescu: "Declaration of Interest. We have investments in Paycoin (XPY) and in GAW. We invest in order to generate funds to continue running this site. We would not invest in anything we considered to be a Ponzi or Scam. We have exercised due diligence and believe this to be a trustworthy company and project. We also provide links to trusted 3rd party sites.

22:36:44 mircea_popescu: January 2015"

22:36:46 mircea_popescu: ok nevermind.

22:37:06 mircea_popescu: looked a lot like astroturf, turns out it is exactly astroturf.

22:37:28 davout: so many chumps, so little time

22:38:11 BingoBoingo: And astroturf is a phenomenon, not a who

22:39:02 mircea_popescu: http://36.media.tumblr.com/830bd8bbae0d70d3020f2db089f7be92/tumblr_ng3p4sXH621s9e2ofo1_500.jpg

22:39:04 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Fqf5 )

22:40:13 mircea_popescu: davout so will you be able to take over if/when bitpay croaks ?

22:41:26 mircea_popescu: davout: thestringpuller: you're australian amirite? << no, he

22:41:37 mircea_popescu: 's our token black guy. cazalla is the token ozian.

22:41:42 davout: yeah, he's a cowboy

22:41:59 davout: re bitpay i have no idea

22:42:33 kakobrekla: most 'merchants' be in merrica

22:42:33 davout: the way i see it the payment bzns is just as an extra pipe to bring volume to the exchange

22:42:37 mircea_popescu: well... payments.

22:42:56 davout: yep

22:43:03 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i ask specifically because i have a coupla derps im paying via bitpay currently.

22:43:10 BingoBoingo: !up cazalla

22:43:11 davout: kakobrekla: i can't america, because fatca

22:43:19 kakobrekla: i kno

22:43:30 mircea_popescu: backup plans never hurt. once they go "well wtf we do nao, we don't want to lose your $xxxx" i just go "use this" and end of story.

22:45:02 mircea_popescu: this shit's fascinating. davout's article ? 2 comments. reddit pseudo-discussion of the topic ? >100 comments.

22:45:15 mircea_popescu: echo chamber be echotastic.

22:46:15 jurov: can't get karma from comments on davouts blog

22:46:18 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: i think i just blown my retard-o-meter << who's "kristo atlas" again ? not the actual atlas ?!

22:46:26 jurov: not bittips :)

22:46:29 jurov: *nor

22:46:37 kakobrekla: nfi

22:46:46 mircea_popescu: such weird.

22:47:00 mircea_popescu: jurov: don't copy that stuff here then. can cause murderous rage for mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and others << j knows.

22:47:34 kakobrekla: https://bitcoinpresscenter.org/presscontact/kristov-atlas

22:47:36 assbot: Kristov Atlas | Bitcoin Press Center ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4HB28 )

22:47:41 mircea_popescu: but seriously : so the people too dumb to participate in the actual bitcoin discussion, here, eitehr because they can't get an irc client going or because they can't gpg or whatever, because their windows doesn't come with a "b-a button", sit somewhere and derp.

22:47:48 mircea_popescu: good for em lol

22:48:20 mircea_popescu: BitcoinRole: "Entrepreneur, Writer" ? srsly ?

22:48:23 mircea_popescu: never heard of him.

22:48:39 kakobrekla: Kristov is the author of "Anonymous Bitcoin: How to Keep Your ฿ All to Yourself," available for sale at http://anonymousbitcoinbook.com.

22:48:40 assbot: Anonymous Bitcoin: How to Keep Your B All to Yourself – Anonymous Bitcoin Book ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4HUKs )

22:49:10 mircea_popescu: also never heard of it.

22:49:16 kakobrekla: just

22:49:29 mircea_popescu: somehow, we all manage, inexplicably.

22:50:14 mircea_popescu: assbot: Bitcoin Forum Bitcointalk is Down due to Disk Failure - Data Lost << bs. he got served, panicked and deleted the data.

22:50:33 kakobrekla: last few hrs only ?

22:50:33 mircea_popescu: methinks we see a jailed & pardoned marquardt show up here to "talk business" within the year.

22:50:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... i have a coupla derps im paying via bitpay << lol!! srsly ? in usa, no less?

22:51:06 kakobrekla: https://twitter.com/bitcointalk/status/558273534393217024

22:51:08 assbot: Data since Jan 21 21:44 UTC will not be automatically recovered, though if anything important was lost, I might be able to find it manually.

22:51:24 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at least some.

22:51:33 cazalla: bitcoinpresscenter.org was andreas derps response after he was denied a listing on some other bitcoin site from memory

22:51:47 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mind-blowing

22:51:55 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hm. well... mebbe.

22:51:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why ?

22:52:19 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i guess no good reason.

22:52:22 mircea_popescu: cazalla so basically this is the o'reilly flavour of astroturfed "bitcoin experts" ?

22:53:04 jurov: let's call them honey badgers

22:53:18 mircea_popescu: *: danielpbarron seriously doubts it will be on freenode in 20 years, or if there will even be a freenode << as far as freenode is concenred, i am agreed. however, b-a is 4ever!

22:53:33 mircea_popescu: jurov i dun recall, what's that reference ?

22:53:49 scoopbot: New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/01/group-proposes-bitcoin-wallet-privacy-ratings-criteria/

22:54:17 jurov: mircea_popescu: animals on book covers

22:54:27 mircea_popescu: oh oh

22:54:41 jurov: http://www.wired.com/2013/12/bitcoin_honey/ and this ofs

22:54:43 assbot: How Bitcoin Became the Honey Badger of Money | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Jqfu )

22:55:12 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/3e42f03b97fba1bd5302e2aea3abff40/tumblr_ng3ntwviXL1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg

22:55:13 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4JwnF )

22:55:37 jurov: i'm havin'it

22:55:48 jurov: or what was the mcd's slogan?

22:55:52 mircea_popescu: wow, conversion ?

22:56:15 jurov: jk

22:56:21 davout: LOL

22:56:32 mircea_popescu: maybe you're straight-curious :D

22:56:37 davout: lmao

22:56:50 jurov: yes, i'm curious :)

22:56:57 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody important was there to write about it, did it make a sound? << yes. after the beep, hear the sound it made.

22:57:01 mircea_popescu: *beep*

22:57:38 *: jurov farts

22:57:49 ben_vulpes: heyo terrists

22:57:54 ben_vulpes: no i'm not waking up late

22:58:06 mircea_popescu: lobbes: I'm glad I discovered this place, man. Otherwise I would have been led off the cliff a long time ago << yer welcome.

22:58:16 cazalla: jurov, lovin' it although they changed it to lovin' beats hatin' apparently http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2014/10/27/mcdonalds-preps-new-ad-push-trip-to-super-bowl-sources/

22:58:17 assbot: McDonald’s Preps New Ad Push & Trip To Super Bowl -Sources - CMO Today - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4KekG )

22:58:20 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes tell the sluts if they do this to you again i will hunt them down.

22:59:01 ben_vulpes: i can just imagine them frolicking squealing naked through the woods

22:59:05 mircea_popescu: jurov pls to look in bash mod queue ?

22:59:20 ben_vulpes: "popescu is coming! popescu is coming!"

22:59:28 mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/a87c218093b4f352dce407fb63ff5f8b/tumblr_ng3nof8hHo1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg close enough

22:59:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4KwIq )

22:59:32 ben_vulpes: "IN YOUR ENDO, HOOOOORES"

22:59:33 jurov: there are only 3 items in the bash q

22:59:43 jurov: kako taketh away

23:00:06 mircea_popescu: hoary whores!

23:01:09 jurov: approved

23:01:14 ben_vulpes: <jurov> don't copy that stuff here then. can cause murderous rage for mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and others << my murderous rage reservoir is depleted

23:01:22 kakobrekla: yeah

23:01:31 ben_vulpes: i'm cut all the way over to gleeful wanton murder today

23:01:34 kakobrekla: i would just take the last line of the last bash

23:01:42 kakobrekla: errything else trash

23:01:51 ben_vulpes: "HTML? SUUURE! IMMA BILL YOU LIKE AN HOUR FOR THAT! ON CALL? SURE! THAT'S LIKE 3 HOURS EASY PEASY!

23:02:28 jurov: you said you're depleted?

23:02:35 ben_vulpes: that's not rage

23:02:36 ben_vulpes: that's glee

23:02:39 ben_vulpes: but all caps glee

23:02:49 jurov: kk

23:03:21 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes had an overflow in his rage buffer

23:03:27 ben_vulpes: it's like one of those "so bad its good" things but it's more like "so pissed at computers i've now got ptsd and 'shall we over the trenches for fun tonight fellas?'"

23:04:08 ben_vulpes: !up yhwh_

23:04:10 ben_vulpes: got tablets?

23:07:52 mircea_popescu: mthreat http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2921642/Group-Jewish-backpackers-tortured-hours-Argentinian-hostel-locals-chanted-trying-Patagonia.html << you ever heard of this !?

23:07:54 assbot: Jewish backpackers tortured for hours in Argentinian hostel by locals | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4MsAC )

23:08:09 mircea_popescu: one week it's the imaginary tampon shortage, the next week it's the roasted jews...

23:12:51 ben_vulpes: <davout> [] https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid << i don't get the 140 character

23:12:53 assbot: It’s really smart as a business owner to go around publicly harassing people /davoutplantaire http://t.co/3MvaixKHb5

23:12:54 ben_vulpes: thing

23:13:49 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: It's stuck that way because SMS messages.

23:13:56 danielpbarron: ben_vulpes, twitter started as an SMS service, and tweets were limited to what could be sent via text

23:14:07 ben_vulpes: ...

23:14:13 ben_vulpes: no i get the history and the technology, asshats.

23:14:29 BingoBoingo: Ah.

23:14:46 kakobrekla: sms is 160 chars

23:14:56 danielpbarron: 20 chars for username

23:15:29 ben_vulpes: fucking sms.

23:16:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00049027 = 18.3361 BTC [-] {2}

23:16:31 BingoBoingo: SMS is a scam anyway

23:18:07 mircea_popescu: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1762050-violento-ataque-antisemita-en-un-hostel-de-lago-puelo-en-chubut << this one apparently actually happened

23:18:09 assbot: Violento ataque antisemita en un hostel de Lago Puelo, en Chubut - 22.01.2015 - lanacion.com   ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4OKje )

23:25:10 mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/23b089cf4e2a31310c74322cfc25a1ed/tumblr_ng3lecDThG1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg

23:25:11 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4QoBi )

23:26:25 undata: http://blogs.blackberry.com/2015/01/blackberry-net-neutrality/ << bb having been beaten to a pulp, demands the state level the playing field

23:26:26 assbot: Net Neutrality: No on Reclassification, Yes on Adding Content & App Providers | Inside BlackBerry ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4QF7i )

23:27:07 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/anjiecast/status/558403460056772608

23:27:09 assbot: Sophistication of SOTU addresses has steadily dropped over time http://t.co/FUvzoUJLSf /hashtag/democracy?src=hash HT /Outsideness http://t.co/2dQgGpo4dB

23:28:19 BingoBoingo: undata: Wait until they demand the new reference bitcoin client and gossipd build on windows

23:28:30 mircea_popescu: demands are cheap.

23:28:58 undata: BingoBoingo: alarms going off... "hurry undata... achieve escape velocity!"

23:29:08 *: undata types furiously

23:29:25 ben_vulpes: http://www.mercenarytrader.com/2015/01/baby-got-black-swan/

23:29:28 assbot: Baby Got Black (Swan) | Mercenary Trader ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Rmxq )

23:30:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00049947 = 9.8396 BTC [+]

23:50:59 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2015#988309 << asciilifeform pls to put very detailed, complete instructions on your blog, plus pictures! this is really very nice and good.

23:50:59 assbot: Logged on 22-01-2015 20:46:00; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on 'how to turn commercially available router into btc full node' << the gadget i mentioned earlier, plus process, only need a larger - 64G+ - usb drive, to make this go. but i did not publish instructions, because did not think anyone wanted this.

23:51:52 mircea_popescu: davout: the one with the mcdonalds flag is totally amsterdam << shit you're right

23:52:00 mircea_popescu: diff shot in barcelona.

23:52:59 mthreat: mircea_popescu: hadn't seen that article... but lots of ex-germans in them there parts of patagonia

23:53:14 mircea_popescu: midnightmagic: ehh.. the testimoney of a friend. what's that worth << sworn testimony is sworn testimony. unless the witness gets impeached, it's worth as much as an employee's testimony

23:53:27 mircea_popescu: (which is every single agent guy)

23:53:37 mircea_popescu: mthreat apparently it actually happened.

23:55:10 BingoBoingo: O.o http://thebulletin.org/multimedia/it-3-minutes-midnight

23:55:11 assbot: It is 3 minutes to midnight | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4XaqB )

23:55:38 BingoBoingo: http://thebulletin.org/press-release/press-release-it-now-3-minutes-midnight7950

23:55:39 assbot: Press release: It is now 3 minutes to midnight | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists ... ( http://bit.ly/1y4Xg1v )

23:56:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: imho, no to x86, no to fans, and ought to keep cost minimal. << yes.

23:59:50 mircea_popescu: maybe i'm not all together, but... what the fuck does stackexchange need 40mn for ?