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00:26:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00032057 = 4.7124 BTC [-]

00:29:49 mircea_popescu: mthreat lol can one marry them yet ?

00:30:53 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Gotta remember it is 'Murica so Arm ripping chimps, not blowjob chimps.

00:31:21 mircea_popescu: "On Monday, Manhattan supreme court justice Barbara Jaffe granted a writ of habeas corpus on behalf of two non-human plaintiffs"

00:31:24 mircea_popescu: this is so fucking stupid...

00:31:32 mircea_popescu: how exactly does the us expect to ever be taken seriously ?

00:31:40 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

00:34:15 ascii_lander: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105894 << $64KBez question, why mircea_popescu gets precisely same spams as i do

00:34:15 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 18:58:13; mircea_popescu: Subject: Your FED TAX payment (ID:11HIRS244242490) was Rejected

00:34:26 ascii_lander: (who else? raise hands?)

00:34:44 mircea_popescu: probably someone bought a list of "business"

00:35:07 ascii_lander: i wonder if it includes, say, my garbage man

00:35:28 ascii_lander: ( if it can fit both mircea_popescu and i )

00:35:34 mircea_popescu: we prolly all ended up on it because someone or other did a harvesting run of ba stuff

00:35:49 *: BingoBoingo finally filed his annual IRS papers this week. Another 0 tax year.

00:36:00 ascii_lander: the lulzy part is that the addr where i get these isn't even the one in my wot key

00:37:29 ascii_lander: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105915 << ahhaha. i have this thing going with pet, where in some sf universe there are differing, say, sugar chiralities for males and females to eat

00:37:29 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 19:24:03; mircea_popescu: but you can't make "woman flour", so just fuck up everyone.

00:37:45 ascii_lander: implications would make for a good yarn

00:38:11 ascii_lander: (e.g., folks eating wrong-handed foods to diet and shitting selves as per 'olestra' , etc)

00:40:43 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/04/windows-servers-pwnd-by-jpeg-uploads/

00:40:44 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1HSnH3Z )

00:40:52 ascii_lander: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105935 << sop. the 'usaschwitz' thing is merely becoming formalized into written law

00:40:52 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 20:31:48; chetty: http://www.wired.com/2015/04/dmca-ownership-john-deere/

00:41:08 ascii_lander: (no one owns anything, not even own pathetic carcass)

00:41:49 BingoBoingo: I honestly could see the Tractor Pull lobby and John Deere coming to blows over this

00:42:04 ascii_lander: the basic precedent is nailed down long ago.

00:43:11 BingoBoingo: Things change when dealing with people who throw additional motors on a chassis more enthusiastically than AMD throws more core on a die

00:44:36 BingoBoingo: Tractor Pull is a phenomenon like Hamas that attracts an strong overlap of people with engineering talent and a love of firearms.

00:46:38 BingoBoingo: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Tractor_pull_02.JPG << Sample of the small end of serious pulling tractors https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Tractor_pull_02.JPG

00:46:40 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HSomSM )

00:46:41 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1HSomSP )

00:46:41 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: tractor is a strategic good

00:46:56 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: esp. the type that matters, the robotic/self-driving one

00:47:25 ascii_lander: hence the importance, to the buggers, of nailing down 'no, you don't get to examine or change the fw'

00:49:20 BingoBoingo: I want to understand that, but have trouble taking that seriously when this happens 200-400 yards from my front door http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-359hBzEV4

00:49:21 assbot: Combine Demolition Derby, 2010 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1aQieNH )

00:49:49 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: two worlds. one that is palpable with unarmed eye, and the one that matters.

00:50:47 BingoBoingo: It's interesting the ways that sports men and women weaponize these things that evade the inspectors and referees until the machines break

00:53:35 ascii_lander: mod6, ben_vulpes, mike_c: note to usaschwitz inmates: 10x the usual frequency of scam callz to my u.s. phone, during voyage. somewhere there is a db of folks who went off the reservation. don't be surprised if phones in your social graph were similarly targeted.

00:53:45 BingoBoingo: hopper full of telephone pole segments was my favorite. I have no idea what serious advantafe they were aiming for there

00:54:00 ascii_lander: betcha somebody got the traditional 'ransom scam' for instance.

00:55:01 ascii_lander: point being, that not only do things widely known to leak - leak, but also other things

00:55:11 mircea_popescu: lol john deere selling "licenses to operate" tractors now ?

00:55:16 ascii_lander: and one ought not to expect to hear any 'official' discussion thereof.

00:55:52 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: in precisely the same way as crapple sells license to operate iPnohe, toyota - to operate toyota, etc. and the rest of the firmwarederpological world

00:56:06 mircea_popescu: so illegal, all of this.

00:56:11 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ECU firmware license with purchase of tractor apparently

00:56:16 ascii_lander: started -at least- with ibm selling permission to use that 31st cpu etc

00:56:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7472 @ 0.0003244 = 2.4239 BTC [+]

00:57:11 ascii_lander: l0l, 'illegal' is a concept only meaningful to commoners, in usa

00:57:21 ascii_lander: it does not apply to anything usg or its tentacles might do.

00:57:48 mircea_popescu: i was speaking of the proper term, illegal as deemed by the most serene republic.

00:57:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16428 @ 0.00032525 = 5.3432 BTC [+]

00:57:59 mircea_popescu: not pale fiat scamversions of the concept.

00:58:13 ascii_lander: might as well go straight to 'epidemiological hazard, nominated for glassing'

00:58:21 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2015/pgp-keyserver/#comment-113787 << check that guy out

00:58:22 assbot: Page not found on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HSpYfh )

00:58:22 ascii_lander: rather than merely 'illegal'

00:59:45 *: ascii_lander just noticed the steady drip of derpcomments on fraudsters re: the fetlife thing

01:00:05 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu that commenter sounds pretty... simple.

01:00:11 *: ascii_lander wonders when the swarm will tire

01:00:45 mircea_popescu: even the longest journey...

01:00:46 ascii_lander: 'Or any recommendations in general for someone who is quite tech savvy, but whose programming skills and experience don't go beyond writing some basic scripts.' << what does 'tech savvy' mean?

01:00:58 mircea_popescu: maybe he works a cnc mill

01:01:12 pete_dushenski: he owns an ipod

01:01:12 ascii_lander: that'd be a bit further than 'basic scripts'

01:01:25 mircea_popescu: maybe he runs an engine mod shop

01:01:26 ascii_lander: (cnc is a fairly legit variant of what we understand as 'programming')

01:01:32 pete_dushenski: and he can sync it to itunes. his grandma cannot do this.

01:01:49 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander yes but like jourdain speaking in prose, he might not realise that's what it is.

01:01:55 pete_dushenski: so he was called 'tech savvy' once

01:01:59 mircea_popescu: if it were the only thing he does

01:02:48 pete_dushenski: !up ascii_lander

01:03:26 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu so how did the first conference in bsas stack up with the romanian editions ?

01:03:55 mircea_popescu: i would say steady improvement

01:04:03 mircea_popescu: i dunno, what do folk that went to both/all think ?

01:04:11 mircea_popescu: davout, which was best conf to date ?

01:05:18 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander seems to be lingering longer this time

01:05:31 ascii_lander: l0l aha still here

01:05:59 ascii_lander: and for most of tomorrow even.

01:06:08 mircea_popescu: so is the consensus that one can't be tech savvy without being a programmer ?

01:06:29 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: idk but i still remember when that -meant- - if meant anything - that one could program

01:06:34 pete_dushenski: well are you not tech savvy then ?

01:06:48 BingoBoingo: One probably at least needs be know of programming.

01:06:49 pete_dushenski: ^mircea_popescu

01:07:01 mircea_popescu: i can code in whatever language you feel like,

01:07:06 mircea_popescu: i just can't be arsed to.

01:07:10 ascii_lander: ^

01:07:26 pete_dushenski: aha

01:08:03 mircea_popescu: i used to read diskedit printouts looking for Stoned B as a kid, i CAN do it.

01:08:20 ascii_lander: ^ m3m0ri1z

01:08:22 pete_dushenski: i can see it. savvy basically meaning that you can make the machine do what you want

01:08:34 *: ascii_lander nostalgic for clever virii

01:08:42 mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Stoned-virus-hexacode.png << dude check it out

01:08:43 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1aQk9lp )

01:08:46 mircea_popescu: many people remember, apparently.

01:09:12 ascii_lander: of course we remember.

01:10:26 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: re: earlier thread: you would, i think, like this place.

01:10:59 pete_dushenski: ;;ticker

01:11:01 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.15, Best ask: 234.46, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 234.32, 24 hour volume: 33051.75287713, 24 hour low: 224.2, 24 hour high: 236.99, 24 hour vwap: None

01:11:12 *: ascii_lander 's least favourite part is...

01:11:14 ascii_lander: ...

01:11:23 ascii_lander: … going home.

01:12:12 ascii_lander: i'm convinced that if most u.s. folks knew what kind of jail they live in, they would go full bore apeshit.

01:12:51 BingoBoingo: When I make it out I'd like to avoid that part. Probably not stay in hardware B-A too long first visit, but definitely temped to spend decade+ outsid of Illinois.

01:13:03 mircea_popescu: and if earthworms knew what their fate is they'd miss being the emperors of china, and the throne.

01:13:25 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: they would if they could.

01:13:56 BingoBoingo: Maybe earthworms are wired to like living in the shit?

01:14:28 ascii_lander: 'We are worms, we're the best, and we've come to win the war. / We'll stand, we'll never run; stay until it's done.' (™) (R)

01:14:36 mircea_popescu: "She got the dogs safely out of the house, just as multiple armed agents rushed inside. Some even barged into the bathroom, where her partner was in the shower."

01:14:38 ascii_lander: ^ davout might recognize the source

01:14:45 mircea_popescu: lol derps timed it to bother the woman post-coitally?

01:15:44 ascii_lander: wai wat

01:16:12 pete_dushenski: they probably enjoyed the entertainment before busting in

01:16:12 mircea_popescu: some link in the logs.

01:16:16 mircea_popescu: to do with wisconsin.

01:16:31 ascii_lander: found it aha

01:16:39 mircea_popescu: anyway, people just need to start shooting.

01:16:57 mircea_popescu: put up signs "groups of police not allowed on this property. come alone or get shot."

01:16:57 BingoBoingo: Wisconsin was too polite, It's almost pete_dushenski land

01:17:15 mircea_popescu: and then start shooting at any groups of cops larger than one.

01:17:53 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo apparently the border is increasingly blurry

01:18:27 pete_dushenski: now us border guards can patrol canadian rail stations and airports and if they kill someone, be subject only to us law

01:18:40 ascii_lander: nato colony.

01:18:47 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Wisconsin has culturally been the land of you fuckers forever. The new stuff is all things that should concern you

01:19:02 pete_dushenski: so ascii_lander quite that.

01:19:12 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo that didn't parse ?

01:19:32 pete_dushenski: 'us fuckers' being canuckians ?

01:19:35 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Wisconsin's basically been Canadian since... the 1920's

01:19:52 BingoBoingo: As soon as there were enough people there to commune with yall

01:20:04 mircea_popescu: that'd explain the cheese.

01:20:05 ascii_lander: '… next came ominous warnings. Don’t call your lawyer. Don’t tell anyone about this raid. Not even your mother, your father, or your closest friends.' << l0l

01:20:13 mircea_popescu: otherwise us cheese is like tall chinese strippers.

01:20:40 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander meanwhile i'm like, "yeah totally, go read fraudsters tomorrow."

01:20:40 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo well then wisconsin has been part of canada longer than (half) my family!

01:21:09 pete_dushenski: is wisconsin cheese actually decent? not sure i've tried any

01:21:34 ascii_lander: 'And she realized, “Every aspect of my life is in their hands. And they hate me.”'

01:21:36 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yeah, but it's also an avenue for contagion. US badgov goes to Canada through Green Bay

01:21:56 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it's actually not bad. well,m the better stuff anyway

01:22:43 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo 'then straight on till morning'

01:22:44 ascii_lander: the only answer is something like total cultural dismantlement (see carthage) and the proverbial 1000 years of colonial ball-crusher.

01:22:48 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/2e4abde700722943b58acc7eb4b2b8a9/tumblr_ncmjn3Ymmz1tmc6gao6_r1_400.gif

01:22:49 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1aQlDff )

01:23:21 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i'd have to figure that everywhere has at least some variant of edible, even enjoyable cheese.

01:23:35 pete_dushenski: whether this is normal or not..

01:23:37 mircea_popescu: not necessarily.

01:23:49 ascii_lander: 400.gif << somebody isn't eager to take in the american cheese emitter

01:24:14 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu btw i didn't fully grok your comment on my infanticide article. sarcasm or no ?

01:24:41 pete_dushenski: not sure that being in favour of baby killin' makes one more or less attractive to opposite sex, but would guess the latter

01:24:45 BingoBoingo: California cheese pretty shitty, dunno why they are burning so much water on that and Alfalfa

01:24:51 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i don't think any woman is going to score the male propensity to infanticide positively.

01:24:57 mircea_popescu: for that matter, any female, of any mammal species.

01:25:05 mircea_popescu: is the fundamental disagreement between the genders.

01:25:29 pete_dushenski: females want their children to survive, males want their children to perform

01:25:52 mircea_popescu: females strongly wish the offspring to survive. males weakly wish the offspring to perish.

01:25:58 mircea_popescu: performance is a byproduct.

01:26:24 pete_dushenski: a byproduct of what?

01:26:40 ascii_lander: of the opposite death ray beams

01:26:53 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski of that imbalance.

01:27:11 pete_dushenski: hmm

01:27:31 mircea_popescu: this is how everything works, incidentally.

01:27:47 mircea_popescu: the sun wants particles strongly energized, thermodynamics wants particles weakly de-energized.

01:28:05 mircea_popescu: as a result, coriolis storms, rainbows, deep throating and daisies.

01:28:32 mircea_popescu: all epiphenomena of the fundamental imbalance.

01:28:54 pete_dushenski: deep throating being when the father doesn't wish his offspring to perish strongly enough ? or too strongly ?

01:29:05 pete_dushenski: s/being/resulting

01:29:15 mircea_popescu: unrelated. it's a false bridge between the two example cases.

01:29:34 pete_dushenski: ok

01:30:20 pete_dushenski: i can see it.

01:30:23 mircea_popescu: point being, the strong push weak pull device drives all performance, but performance is a byproduct.

01:30:36 pete_dushenski: thankfully most contravex readers have dongs

01:31:08 mircea_popescu: if it doesn't make sense to women, it doesn't make sense to men, either. whether they're poorly equipped to figure it out or not, notwithstanding.

01:32:15 pete_dushenski: how so ? are there not differing perspectives ? differing inclinations between the sexes ?

01:32:23 BingoBoingo: Anything younger than 10 is probably too early to cull anyways

01:32:24 ascii_lander: cheapest infanticide is simpy: not making'em in the first place

01:32:30 ascii_lander: *simply

01:32:38 ascii_lander: just like the 'best car'

01:32:50 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski different perspectives of what ?

01:33:13 BingoBoingo: At least for cases not obviously cullable in womb

01:33:15 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander notrly how this works. cheapest computer is not "no computer". that's cheapest noncomputer.

01:33:15 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu towards the value of a child, particularly if handicapped

01:33:38 pete_dushenski: !up ascii_lander

01:33:47 mircea_popescu: eh, "value of a child" is like iq.

01:34:09 pete_dushenski: ok, value of your own freedom and independence

01:34:09 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: whatchatalkingabout, works great. just like the 'noncomputers' running my knives, forks, shoes work great.

01:34:13 ascii_lander: best computerz.

01:34:21 mircea_popescu: lol k

01:34:35 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski that's like the value of god.

01:35:07 pete_dushenski: or of heaven and hell, ya

01:35:42 ascii_lander: how do you even comment on the 'value' of something which pretty much no one has anything like a reasonable reason to want.

01:35:45 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i guess i'm still wondering why the 'making sense' equation has women leading and men following

01:36:04 ascii_lander: what is the 'value' of being dragged behind a truck until nothing remains on the rope but a small flap of skin ?

01:36:04 mircea_popescu: anyway, this "natural" thing... shitting in the bed is also natural. something being natural offers little ethical indication.

01:36:13 BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/04/21/michele_leonhart_resigns_dea_head_steps_down_after_prostitution_scandal.html << Mega lol, leaving when the opportunity for side income dries

01:36:14 assbot: Michele Leonhart resigns: DEA head steps down after prostitution scandal, disagreement over marijuana. ... ( http://bit.ly/1aQncK7 )

01:36:26 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it doesn't. if something makes sense to only one gender, specifically, it's probably stupid.

01:36:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00032437 = 3.0977 BTC [-]

01:38:17 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu that's general enough that i can't argue with that

01:38:54 mircea_popescu: and kids are drastically distinguishable from animals, at any age.

01:38:57 mircea_popescu: for one thing, they grab.

01:39:07 ascii_lander: cat grabs

01:39:13 mircea_popescu: kitten doth not.

01:39:18 ascii_lander: one grabbed me at the old cemetary just today

01:39:18 ascii_lander: hm

01:40:15 mircea_popescu: monkeys do not, either. they eventually learn to, but if you watch it specifically, the difference is striking.

01:40:39 BingoBoingo: Racoons grab, play hockey

01:40:46 mircea_popescu: adfults, yes.

01:41:13 BingoBoingo: With a life expectancy of 2 years hard to call any racoons adults

01:41:20 mircea_popescu: haha ok

01:42:43 BingoBoingo: I have seem a great many short flat citronella candle in tin leave the bounds of the picnic table in the backyard due to those masked bandits

01:42:49 mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire discussion of interests and bs... i dunno that there's any value in trying to re-write the protestant ethics-as-capitalism.

01:43:13 mircea_popescu: it's been amply documented and vastly shown to not work, one's probably better served by reading the past three centuries of various attempts.

01:43:14 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu this a romanian article you're referring to ?

01:43:22 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski which this ?

01:43:33 pete_dushenski: the 're-write'

01:43:38 mircea_popescu: no, yours.

01:43:53 pete_dushenski: lol aok

01:44:07 ascii_lander: just what is it that was shown not to work ?

01:44:22 mircea_popescu: "it can?t possibly outweigh the interests of " etc

01:44:36 ascii_lander: it is like saying that meteorite does not work. for the man whose head it falls on - it 'worked.'

01:44:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00031306 = 2.7549 BTC [-]

01:44:51 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander the idea that you can calculate the sum-value-in-the-future for alternative courses of actions and pick like you pick an investment

01:44:56 ascii_lander: aha that

01:45:09 mircea_popescu: ie, protestant ethics-as-capitalism

01:45:20 ascii_lander: rawls being the most well-known offender here

01:45:24 ascii_lander: but others, aha

01:45:33 mircea_popescu: at least in fashionable contemporary english, sure.

01:45:33 ascii_lander: revolting gasbags

01:46:40 *: ascii_lander sat for a while in the tango place after mircea_popescu and hanbot went home, and reread favourite parts in ben_vulpes's copy of 'asylum', and contemplated lessons thereof

01:46:50 mircea_popescu: it's squarely irrelevant "where this leads". lead it where it may, do it or don't do it on some basis other than you know, "expectations".

01:47:06 mircea_popescu: all the derps pushing gaw, for instance, neglected proper causes of action because of their retarded dreams as to the future.

01:47:10 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu ok so 'can't possibly' is too strong.

01:47:13 mircea_popescu: it's not a very sane approach to action.

01:47:26 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no, just, the approach is meaningless. who cares what outweighs what.

01:47:38 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: it is the logic of hunger. or, more to the point, of thirst. what is the logic of a stranded sailor deciding to drink sea water ?

01:47:56 mircea_popescu: if some "public interest" however defines "exceeds" however defined my pleasure at cutting the bankrupt's heart, what of it ?

01:48:05 mircea_popescu: until you can rail the seal from off my bond...

01:48:48 mircea_popescu: "SHYLOCK: Till thou canst rail the seal from off my bond, thou but offend'st thy lungs to speak so loud: repair thy wit, good youth, or it will fall to cureless ruin. I stand here for law."

01:48:50 pete_dushenski: hm ya, it's all exceedingly vague and nebulous

01:49:09 pete_dushenski: so it doesn't really create anything that can be compared

01:49:14 pete_dushenski: so... it's useless!

01:49:38 *: pete_dushenski should know better than to compare purposes

01:50:20 *: BingoBoingo makes first mint julep of the year with yard mint

01:50:35 *: chatquack cheers

01:50:43 mircea_popescu: !up SquirtPrincess

01:50:49 mircea_popescu: mint julep best julep

01:51:04 pete_dushenski: needless to say, i can see why some people would choose a "post-birth abortion" aka infanticide

01:51:17 pete_dushenski: even if i wouldn't choose it myself

01:51:23 mircea_popescu: i can see why people that just killed a kid would tend to represent this as a choice

01:51:37 mircea_popescu: as i can see why people'd tend to represent it as no choice at all

01:51:42 mircea_popescu: whatever, trauma logic.

01:52:04 ascii_lander: what'd be the, alternatively, trauma-surgeon-logic ?

01:52:20 ascii_lander: as in, perspective of reasonable thought outside of the trauma

01:52:22 mircea_popescu: the alternative is nothing. murder's not something to be explained.

01:52:30 ascii_lander: ^

01:52:37 mircea_popescu: teh lion does not go into song after lightening the lioness' load.

01:53:11 ascii_lander: spartan speaks with sword (tm)

01:53:37 ascii_lander: (the thing where everything -has- to be explained/ratiocinated is a disease of modernity, aha)

01:53:47 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu curious, do you think abortion is murder ? if so, at what point ?

01:54:10 mircea_popescu: murder is a legal concept, i suppose i misspoke.

01:54:11 BingoBoingo: It depends on the mother, father, and the foetus

01:54:16 mircea_popescu: s/murder/*-cide/

01:55:32 pete_dushenski: that makes sense.

01:56:03 pete_dushenski: actually that clarifies things quite a bit.

01:56:17 mircea_popescu: During an appearance before the House Oversight Committee on April 14, Leonhart faced aggressive questioning over the punishment imposed on agents who were found to be engaging in ?sex parties? in Colombia with prostitutes that were funded by drug cartels. Expressing displeasure that the agents were given suspensions of between two and 10 days and did not lose their positions or security clearance, Republican Rep.

01:56:18 mircea_popescu: Trey Gowdy of South Carolina asked, ?What would it take to get fired at the DEA? The DEA agents I used to work with were worried about using their cars to pick up dry-cleaning.?

01:56:19 mircea_popescu: lmao.

02:04:29 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

02:05:55 ben_vulpes: buenos noches

02:06:09 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes tangoed his fill ?

02:06:10 mircea_popescu: the weirdest prt being that what, you actually have to organize columbian prostitutes to fuck gringos now ?

02:06:25 ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: more than

02:06:53 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: of course they have to be organized, l0l. as you can see, even basic whore can see radiation damage from a cannon-shot's distance.

02:07:03 mircea_popescu: lol

02:07:55 pete_dushenski: "Furthermore, she has retarded reactions to murder. Murder is a fact of life. It's what healthy, adult men do, exactly as much and exactly the same as having babies is what healthy, adult women do. Her reaction to murder is akin to current day bois' reaction to birth, you'd think the sky just fell over." << closest i came to digging up an 'explanation of murder' via http://fraudsters.com/2013/la-strada/

02:07:56 assbot: La Strada on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1cXWwsJ )

02:09:03 *: ascii_lander searched for an iconic article re: how violent death is a necessary garbage collector for a healthy civilization, found it, realized that it's a nearly untranslatable ru piece

02:09:31 BingoBoingo: fucking worthless pseudo-expert http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extnews/hortiscope/flowers/hllyhock.htm

02:09:33 assbot: Questions On Hollyhocks ... ( http://bit.ly/1cXWJMA )

02:09:46 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you seen that film ?

02:10:26 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu have not, i'm guessing that it's going on the list though!

02:10:37 mircea_popescu: it's pretty good.

02:10:59 ben_vulpes: <lobbes> re: coffee. Once you go black, you can't go back. Added benefit of $maxcaffeine per cup << you're missing so much context here i don't know that it's worth fixing

02:11:22 ben_vulpes: but let's try anyways: "pragmatic coffee nerd in buenos aires"

02:11:30 ben_vulpes: glhf

02:12:00 ben_vulpes: <mod6> oh wow. good for you. i never sleep on planes hardly. << oh man i'm going to sleep sooooo welllll

02:12:09 ben_vulpes: another night of tango at least

02:13:09 *: ascii_lander contemplates the tech level of the junk stores. grew up an orc, yes, but i never touched a fucking gramophone

02:13:25 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105853 << you know i always get wicked child no matter how old i am

02:13:25 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 17:14:27; pete_dushenski: and lemme guess, the oldest people in the room asked the four questions instead of the youngest

02:13:25 mircea_popescu: haha you buying one for your antique stores ?

02:13:52 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes lol atta boy.

02:13:53 ascii_lander: won't buy, no. but marvelled at it.

02:14:15 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105859 << imma troll the fam with this next year

02:14:15 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 17:16:05; pete_dushenski: "Susannah Heschel, a well-known Jewish feminist scholar, was introduced to an early feminist Haggadah that suggested adding a crust of bread on the seder plate, as a sign of solidarity with Jewish lesbians (which was intended to convey the idea that there’s as much room for a lesbian in Judaism as there is for a crust of bread on the seder plate)."

02:14:26 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo would appreciate the fella who was selling, among many other things of this flavour: the back half of a Luger.

02:14:27 ben_vulpes: perhaps i even stay for something past the ceremonial pre-sunset whiskeys next year too

02:14:29 ben_vulpes: WHO KNOWS

02:15:07 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: also had something recognizable as a schmeisser mag

02:15:08 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes then you come out of the closet ?

02:15:26 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105886 << for better or worse top posting is now required to interact with gmail users

02:15:26 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 18:53:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105803 << because they don't know how to use email. a) they top answer ; b) they add all that signature spam.

02:15:36 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: in a country where apparently no one shoots recreationally, these were peculiar sights

02:16:33 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105904 << soaked in fernet?

02:16:33 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 19:07:48; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105868 << i think it's time the republic starts oppressing teh jews like any real country. how about, forcing them to add a slice of black forest cake to the seder.

02:17:10 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105918 << me too

02:17:10 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 19:26:27; *: lobbes now feels compelled to read flour labels before buying

02:18:03 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105923 << nono this is entirely bass ackwards. those children should be born as apparently defective as possible.

02:18:03 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 19:28:57; mircea_popescu: but for the record : the case for dosing women, especially the sort likely to have kids unexpectedly (young, addicted, poor) and the sort likely to be depleted (oyung, addicted, poor) is extremely compelling.

02:18:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19624 @ 0.00032633 = 6.4039 BTC [+] {3}

02:18:17 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes why ?

02:18:42 ben_vulpes: too many people already!

02:18:48 mircea_popescu: so ?

02:19:02 mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever met a girl i actually liked whose parents were not poor.

02:19:08 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: this is how you get usa. just as crowded, but with cthonian horrors walking around, instead of pretty gurlz

02:19:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16298 @ 0.00032696 = 5.3288 BTC [+]

02:19:19 ben_vulpes: hm

02:19:46 ben_vulpes: well a) your taste in girlie lineage isn't relevant to the discussion

02:20:01 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: substitute your own, see if answer differs

02:20:09 mircea_popescu: something like that.

02:20:21 ben_vulpes: you'll find plenty you like from poor parents who accidentally got all the nutrition they need

02:20:36 mircea_popescu: more trustworthy brothers to be had among the children of whores than among the children of whatever, "women in tech"

02:21:00 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: WHich half of it?

02:21:11 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: ?

02:21:27 ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: you're plenty familiar with the quality of usa girls

02:21:52 ben_vulpes: is propping the market up really doing anyone any favors?

02:21:56 ben_vulpes: iodized salt?

02:22:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00032855 = 5.3882 BTC [+]

02:22:28 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: the thing that blew me away (ben_vulpes saw, but putting it here for the permanent record) was the difference in faces.

02:22:32 mircea_popescu: there's not actually anything wrong with iodized salt.

02:22:36 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1105966 << good for you - suck the beast dry

02:22:36 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 00:35:49; *: BingoBoingo finally filed his annual IRS papers this week. Another 0 tax year.

02:23:24 ascii_lander: in usa perhaps 1 in 10 20-30y.o. females has the face of a human being, rather than a malignant motorized plastic doll

02:23:28 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Only filed because necessary to certify with USG 0 payments on stafford loan repayment plan. Can only tolerate so much phone spam

02:23:31 ascii_lander: here, perhaps 19/20

02:24:08 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander how does that work ?

02:24:29 ascii_lander: how it works? damned if i know

02:24:36 trinque: really depends on the city

02:24:37 ascii_lander: but this is my observation which i will sign under.

02:24:43 trinque: tons of beautiful women in austin, tx

02:24:49 ascii_lander: applies to everywhere i've set foot in.

02:24:55 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1105993 << all of my people know how to reach me

02:24:55 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 00:54:00; ascii_lander: betcha somebody got the traditional 'ransom scam' for instance.

02:24:57 ascii_lander: (east coast usa)

02:25:19 mircea_popescu: what's this "malignant motorized plastic doll" look ?

02:25:51 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: hard to describe if you don't already know

02:25:58 BingoBoingo: This year experimenting with expanding the side gig from lawn mowing to lawn mowing and de-orcing front gardens. liking results so far.

02:26:00 ascii_lander: need better artist than i

02:26:06 mircea_popescu: link some examples ?

02:26:07 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what they look like before a year of real food

02:26:10 ascii_lander: 'describe the face of an angry dog'

02:26:28 ben_vulpes: i don't have any, 'cuz port towns lend

02:26:33 trinque: ascii_lander: female fox news anchor?

02:26:49 ascii_lander: trinque: approximately. except that it's attenuated for the camera

02:27:20 ascii_lander: trinque: to get a picture of this face, you more or less have to be an unremarkable male civilian with a camera built into your nostril.

02:27:39 ascii_lander: if someone issues me a nostril cam, i promise to take this photo when i come home.

02:27:46 trinque: lol

02:27:50 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My hypothesis is the particular type of birth control pill which is trendy now. Definitely an effect on skin though, more... textured latex look shits the girls between 17-20, rather sudden onset.

02:28:09 mircea_popescu: what do they use ?

02:28:30 trinque: surely BsAs chicks are on the pill in similar proportions

02:28:36 BingoBoingo: As always a mix of things, but progesterone-only mixes are very popular.

02:28:36 trinque: probably even have a fancy govt thing to get it from

02:28:51 BingoBoingo: trinque: There's so many varieties of chemical called progesterone.

02:28:58 mircea_popescu: trinque actually abortion is illegal in argentina.

02:29:22 trinque: mircea_popescu: hah! I wouldn't have guessed

02:29:39 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo afaik combos are still the bulk used everywhere.

02:30:12 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But progesterone only is "great for acne" hence exceedily popular in overweight America

02:30:26 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1106020 << let the permanent record show permanently that i got started "programming" with cnc strange and motoman ladder logic

02:30:26 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 01:01:26; ascii_lander: (cnc is a fairly legit variant of what we understand as 'programming')

02:30:37 mircea_popescu: it's not, is it ?

02:31:29 mircea_popescu: anyway, afaik a typical pill is 0.050mg desogestrel (DSG) + 0.035mg etinilestradiol(EE) / 0.100mg DSG + 0.030mg EE / 0.150mg DSG + 0.030mg EE / dextrose.

02:32:10 ascii_lander: incidentally, is there a canonical mircea_popescu article re: the pill psycho-reversal thing ?

02:32:17 ascii_lander: or was that an al schwartz piece

02:32:26 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Depends. When I was TA'ing pharm school there was noise that combo pills with estrogen included presented health risks in the form of exciting ER positive breast cancer and "blood clot promotion".

02:32:34 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander moar detail ?

02:32:45 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: the mega-boojum of the bc pill

02:32:54 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: recall the t-shirt study ?

02:32:55 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo afaik never really substantiated.

02:33:50 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Never really substantiated yes, but 'Murican courts have a "chilling effect" so... progesterone only promoted under guise of acne control.

02:33:58 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: the one where women in differing parts of cycle were attracted to proximate histocompatibility-pattern males (prefers 'related' during pregnancy) and distant mhc. during ovulation (prefers 'unrelated' to avoid recessive zap)

02:34:04 mircea_popescu: except it's not really very good. but w/e.

02:34:20 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander i think there was one, lettuce see

02:34:21 BingoBoingo: Eh, that's what the "Hope Clinic" is for

02:34:37 BingoBoingo: ;;google hope clinic

02:34:38 gribble: Hope Clinic Home - Ypsilanti: http://www.thehopeclinic.org/; The Hope Clinics - Seattle: http://www.thehopeclinics.com/; HOPE Clinic - Houston: http://hopechc.org/

02:34:50 BingoBoingo: ;;google hope clinic granite city

02:34:52 gribble: The Hope Clinic for Women, Ltd.: http://www.hopeclinic.com/; Abortion Fees - The Hope Clinic for Women, Ltd.: http://www.hopeclinic.com/abortion-gyn/abortion-services/abortion-fees; Contact Us - The Hope Clinic for Women, Ltd.: http://www.hopeclinic.com/contact-us

02:34:55 ascii_lander: and so basic pattern is, people marry, and it's time for the offspring, woman goes off the pill, and - zap. no more attraction to the male

02:35:15 ascii_lander: because they met while the mhc toggle was flipped.

02:35:35 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

02:35:59 *: BingoBoingo personally never understood why implanon et al were never more popular than they are

02:36:10 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/that-aint-the-maslow-pyramid-yo/ ?

02:36:11 assbot: That ain't the Maslow pyramid, yo! on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY0XDO )

02:36:29 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: quoted item applies to -all- hormonal bc mechanisms

02:36:34 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander tbh, that's drastically overstated.

02:36:52 mircea_popescu: the reason zap no more attraction is that people by and large suck, and you don't want to be stuck with them.

02:36:53 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: if it were brick-in-the-face obvious, folks might notice.

02:37:14 ascii_lander: just as if one cig gave you cancer next day

02:37:14 mircea_popescu: and it'd appear everywhere except for portland, the cultural notion ofwhat marriage is pretty much is constructed so it won't work.

02:37:29 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Sure, addressing other positives... easy for partner to verify by light touch of the arm... extended cycle...

02:37:39 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: verify?!

02:38:03 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Implanon and its ilk go into the subcutaneous fat. easily palpated

02:38:10 BingoBoingo: brb

02:38:17 mircea_popescu: btw, i was watching some derps getting in ben_vulpes' way at a milonga today, and omfg are the gringos ridiculous. i dunno if anyone here knows how to tango, but the idea is you drive the woman.

02:38:23 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: are we also to propose verifying woman not stabbing you while you sleep? and if so, how ?

02:38:30 mircea_popescu: this dude was holding on to her arm like he was going to drown i nthe floor

02:38:40 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: By waking with lack of new orfices

02:39:05 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: point was, at some point you trust the parachute

02:39:16 BingoBoingo: Sure

02:39:22 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: there is not a spare parachute for the spare parachute of the spare parachute.

02:40:12 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: l0l

02:40:23 ascii_lander: and after mircea_popescu left, that dude drowned in the floor

02:40:32 ascii_lander: when the woman let go

02:40:35 mircea_popescu: what rly ?

02:40:44 ascii_lander: or perhaps he didn't. i didn't stick around long enough

02:40:45 ben_vulpes: and after ascii_lander left, ben_vulpes got intimidated off the floor

02:40:47 ascii_lander: can only suppose.

02:41:00 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the advanced class started ?

02:41:06 ascii_lander: i went back to $lander to drown in floor there.

02:41:10 ascii_lander: sorta half way in now.

02:41:13 ben_vulpes: 7pm "todos nieveles" is not 9pm "todos nieveles"

02:41:27 mircea_popescu: (ftr i was kind-of chuckling to myself the other day when you were derping about how you want to lead bla bla. you couldn't possibly have been that good, i thought.)

02:42:20 ben_vulpes: mwell imma take that as a compliement

02:42:37 ben_vulpes: compliment*

02:43:27 mircea_popescu: how ?

02:43:37 ben_vulpes: :(

02:43:42 mircea_popescu: awww!

02:44:58 ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> [00:40] (no one owns anything, not even own pathetic carcass) << http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/LifeTrac there is yet hope

02:44:59 assbot: LifeTrac - Open Source Ecology ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY2wl7 )

02:45:31 ben_vulpes: leading is maybe a thing one is tuned for but it is not a thing one "does" without lots of work

02:45:46 ben_vulpes: maybe next year i go to the 9pm todos nieveles session

02:45:53 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Spare parachutes are always good, but some times you have to plan to win the game of civil court

02:46:18 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: 'the only winning move is not to play' (™) ® 'war games'

02:47:09 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Well next month I'll have a better idea if I was made to win criminal law. Still kinda perturbed recon_eric didn't try harder...

02:47:10 *: ascii_lander wonders how ben_vulpes could have been intimidated by those folks he was wiping the floor with

02:47:15 BingoBoingo: !up recon_eric

02:47:36 recon_eric: Guess I'd have to care more to try harder =P

02:48:03 recon_eric: I hated bullshit tasks like that

02:48:18 ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: mebbe i shoulda stuck around and been the derp in the room for the second session, but my sugar high from mister_p's icecreamstravaganza'd worn off at that point and all the phrienz had left

02:48:35 ben_vulpes: i'll probably do like 4 hours tomorrow night

02:48:39 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: are you still parked near there, with the suitcase nuke ?

02:48:41 BingoBoingo: recon_eric: I could have probably saved 10-50k easily from your scamming childhood friend, but then again I may have had to pay taxes...

02:49:12 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: roll in enough dough to take and run with

02:49:20 ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: did not actually carry nuke around today, just matching desert eagles

02:49:26 ascii_lander: aha

02:49:41 ascii_lander: so ben_vulpes is probably within 20 metres, l0l

02:49:47 ben_vulpes: myeah

02:49:51 ben_vulpes: hoping for a reasonable bedtime for once

02:49:57 ascii_lander: l0l sleep

02:50:01 ascii_lander: who sleeps.

02:50:05 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Wouldn't it have been grand to have the chance. 10-50k would have been so much rocket fuel on a Bingo-Budget

02:50:12 ben_vulpes: !h

02:50:12 assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot

02:50:17 williamdunne: !s cuckold

02:50:18 assbot: 8 results for 'cuckold' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cuckold

02:50:32 recon_eric: Sorry BingoBoingo .... I hope he faces the consequences for his actions. He's still trying to scam more people =\ https://hashtalk.org/topic/36879/paybase-2/2

02:50:33 assbot: HashTalk - Ideas, Talk, and Hardware - Bitcoin & Scrypt Mining ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY3kXc )

02:50:39 ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot williamdunne

02:50:40 assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user williamdunne: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/williamdunne | http://w.b-a.link/user/williamdunne

02:50:53 williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105412

02:50:53 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 09:41:05; cazalla: williamdunne, maybe they touched swords long ago and recon_eric hoped by eating garza's shit on top of it, he'd keep quiet about that time they, you know, did their thing

02:51:10 ascii_lander: re: cuckolds:

02:51:20 williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105416

02:51:20 assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 09:44:07; cazalla: recon_eric, pretty sure garza was banging amber as well tbh, what with the constant text messages and shit

02:51:21 *: ascii_lander wonders who will be the first fella to get a 'dear john' telegram while at a fraudsters meetup

02:51:25 ben_vulpes: hey kakobrekla talk to mike and get the appropriate links dialed into assbot pwetty pwease? eg http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=williamdunne

02:51:26 assbot: WoT Trust - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY3wG3 )

02:51:52 BingoBoingo: recon_eric: Honestly holds as little interest of mine as a zoo animal. Josh is only interesting at the points where he almost touches real persons.

02:52:31 williamdunne: recon_eric: Thread might be worth reading that I linked

02:52:42 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: imho garza et al are about as interesting as, e.g., buruli ulcer.

02:52:50 ascii_lander: which is to say very, if you're afflicted

02:53:10 ben_vulpes: ascii_lander, mircea_popescu: you know, wot solves the buenos aires black market labor problem too

02:53:50 ben_vulpes: i am probably late to this party as well

02:54:14 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Chives that escape containement do not mortally endanger yards in my care, but they interest me.

02:54:15 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: i think he was looking for (or at least didactically portraying) conveyor men, not programmers.

02:54:30 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: as i understand there are no programmers here

02:54:36 ascii_lander: we will have to learn new profession.

02:55:10 BingoBoingo: Oh shit, and I was starting to python decent without dead trees next to computing monitor

02:55:14 ascii_lander: and l0l, i don't even remember how to program any more (at least in the traditional sense where someone gives you a spec & pays)

02:56:00 williamdunne: ascii_lander: Use Node and 7 frameworks, apparently

02:56:23 ascii_lander: williamdunne: this is only vaguely meaningful in my head.

02:56:38 *: BingoBoingo would like to see a WordPress 2.X replacement in SBCL

02:57:05 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: would you also like to see a vietnamese water buffalo replacement that runs on jp-A ?

02:57:21 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: actually... yeah

02:57:38 ascii_lander: not everything is a category that ought to be replaced and live

02:57:39 BingoBoingo: I would love a pack animal that runs on Jet-A

02:57:44 ben_vulpes: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417155/wisconsins-shame-i-thought-it-was-home-invasion-david-french << induced a product idea: video camera that streams to bulletproof storage

02:57:45 assbot: Wisconsin's Shame: ‘I Thought It Was a Home Invasion’ | National Review Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY4yBO )

02:57:55 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: robert heinlein thought of it 1st

02:58:06 ben_vulpes: so?

02:58:09 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: hint hint - everyone who needs this - has.

02:58:37 ben_vulpes: no, fuck "needs".

02:58:39 ascii_lander: and if you have it, and it isn't obvious, then it doesn't work.

02:58:45 ascii_lander: like nuke deterrent.

02:58:47 trinque: BingoBoingo: https://github.com/redline6561/coleslaw

02:58:48 assbot: redline6561/coleslaw · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY4K48 )

02:58:57 trinque: common lisp static site generator

02:58:58 ben_vulpes: the point is to make it so painfully impossible for this to happent to ordinary mortals that the bastards can't pull this kind of stunt anymore.

02:59:20 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Wisconsin situation had an easier solution... Disclosure when contacted by LeX as per http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/

02:59:22 assbot: A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared | Bingo Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1cY4Qsw )

02:59:34 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: thing is, doesn't work unless you are holed up in fuhrerbunker 24/7

02:59:47 williamdunne: ben_vulpes: Alternatively people need to start shooting so that its too risky for them to continue running into houses

02:59:56 ascii_lander: if it becomes known that you've cemented a toiletcam into every brick in your house - you will be beaten and arrested/'shot on escape' elsewhere

02:59:59 ben_vulpes: williamdunne: kind of a nonstarter.

03:00:09 ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: they go after der boxen.

03:00:23 ben_vulpes: house entry is a terror tactic, not actually performing research.

03:00:39 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: if you have something of actual value on these - pull the pin.

03:00:49 ben_vulpes: how would they know though

03:01:00 ben_vulpes: they are the most derpy of derps.

03:01:06 ascii_lander: i mean, when the battering ram crashes through

03:01:14 ascii_lander: then - pull the pin, what else.

03:01:22 *: BingoBoingo would like girls with Yugo SKS, nato grenade combo

03:01:30 ben_vulpes: pulling the pin does nothing to humiliate everyone involved.

03:01:34 ben_vulpes: in painstaking detail.

03:01:51 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Pin activates thermite, thermite brings liberty

03:01:57 ascii_lander: how does ending on on 'youtube' humiliate the thugs?

03:02:08 ascii_lander: they love exposure. can terrorize 1000 people instead of 1

03:02:25 ascii_lander: the only useful application would be to avoid 'nailgunning'

03:02:26 ben_vulpes: in courtroom.

03:02:34 ascii_lander: l0lr00m

03:02:34 ben_vulpes: also pill against nailgunning.

03:02:43 ben_vulpes: 'pill'

03:02:53 BingoBoingo: COurtroom is zoo pen at best, county far at worst

03:03:19 ascii_lander: at any rate, if anyone here does not have -some- variant of this in place, now would be the time to make arrangements.

03:03:21 ben_vulpes: and if the things are incredibly low cost and easily hidden, the unknowability of where its deployed makes people start to think multiple times.

03:03:56 ascii_lander: tip: avoid powering with obvious wires.

03:04:03 ben_vulpes: especially if their names end up rather publically attached to such actions.

03:04:09 ben_vulpes: "we know where you live" (tm)

03:04:22 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: does the name lon horiuchi ring a bell ?

03:04:33 ben_vulpes: <trinque> BingoBoingo: https://github.com/redline6561/coleslaw << heh neat

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03:04:40 BingoBoingo: bastard file + aluminum can = half of thermite, bastard file + rustocalypse + other half. Triggering is your problem

03:04:56 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: trinque Git, kinda a dealbreaker.

03:04:59 ascii_lander: i learned his name many years ago, shortly after the thing that made him famous. what of it. he wasn't, afaik, lynched

03:05:09 ascii_lander: and all legal avenues failed

03:05:10 ben_vulpes: there was no serenissima then

03:05:11 trinque: ben_vulpes: I've been writing quite a bit of it myself lately

03:05:13 ascii_lander: to no one's great surprise

03:05:19 trinque: CL that is

03:05:23 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: why u no git?

03:05:28 ben_vulpes: and trinque: why u CL?

03:05:56 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: git has an unacceptabru weakest link to constitute improvament

03:05:58 trinque: ben_vulpes: drives a little device I'm fielding to let the kitchens increase prep time on orders

03:06:06 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

03:06:09 williamdunne: !up ascii_lander

03:06:10 trinque: has a dial and a shitty lcd screen

03:06:21 trinque: good for queso-covered fingers

03:06:27 ben_vulpes: trinque: ha! neat

03:06:34 ben_vulpes: trinque: you should bring the thinger down south

03:06:44 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: there was no serenissima then << even today, serenissima cannot exterminate so much as a case of mice. yet

03:06:50 ben_vulpes: yet.

03:07:02 ben_vulpes: i'd have us be prepared.

03:07:05 trinque: ben_vulpes: yeah I wouldn't mind

03:07:15 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: that did not parse.

03:07:56 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: git's pinacle of security is https, WP killer demands moar

03:08:04 ben_vulpes: it's actually ssh.

03:08:24 *: BingoBoingo not most attentive to linus drools

03:08:43 ben_vulpes: k so research first then, derp about my toolset later

03:09:07 trinque: git's fine

03:09:09 BingoBoingo: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes: there was no serenissima then << even today, serenissima cannot exterminate so much as a case of mice. yet << Serenisima protected a cat last week from larger predator...

03:09:21 trinque: the git command's pretty arcane, but the data model's relatively straightforward

03:09:23 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: and last year let a cat starve

03:09:30 trinque: just a derpy key value store where the keys are hashes

03:09:46 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But as ascii_lander posed it, the victory is what was killed

03:10:00 ben_vulpes: there was no honor in the kittens demise.

03:10:37 BingoBoingo: Oh, kittens didn't die. A -redacted- met the spade

03:10:44 ben_vulpes: you recall the scottish kitten?

03:10:53 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: moiety?

03:10:57 ben_vulpes: aha

03:11:36 ascii_lander: yes. that one.

03:11:40 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:19] ascii_lander meanwhile i'm like, "yeah totally, go read fraudsters tomorrow." << precisely my point

03:11:42 ascii_lander: RIP moiety

03:11:48 ben_vulpes: RIP moiety

03:11:54 BingoBoingo: RIP moiety

03:12:11 ascii_lander: i picked up and played with a small moiety earlier today, in the cemetary

03:12:25 ben_vulpes: i'll buy her a great big fuck off box in recolata after victory

03:12:25 ascii_lander: they have them running around, there are dishes with food.

03:12:37 ben_vulpes: redactoleta i mean

03:13:16 ascii_lander: the small moiety sqeaked, purred

03:13:52 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:21] in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/2e4abde700722943b58acc7eb4b2b8a9/tumblr_ncmjn3Ymmz1tmc6gao6_r1_400.gif << i think this is the first mircea_popescu link where the gurl's apparently winning to untrained eyes

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03:14:20 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, it does not, because the locals are either mentally retarded or mentally ill.

03:14:46 mircea_popescu: before you can have good tools, you need the orcs developed enough to use them.

03:14:59 mircea_popescu: imagine arming the mongol horde with ak-47s only to discover they use it as a club.

03:15:06 ben_vulpes: i suppose implicit is the importing of staff

03:15:15 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: mosin was a club quite often.

03:15:16 ben_vulpes: (st4ph)

03:15:34 mircea_popescu: yeah but mosin sucked.

03:15:52 ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> [01:31] just like the 'best car' << "cultures that do not cherish the young mother perish", and we want this for la serenissima?

03:16:03 mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> not everything is a category that ought to be replaced and live << very much this.

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03:16:16 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But the cat was saved because shelter it takes on day one of 10 day rotation was occupied on day 9 by a [canine/avian/reptilian] and trespasser was dispatched.

03:16:22 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: only pointing out that i, for example, would rather eat nagant than raise offspring

03:16:29 mircea_popescu: there's really no further point for most of ba's population. alf likes the women, some light industry (cooks, etc) are salavageable,

03:16:45 mircea_popescu: but by and large these derps are about as needed as any black african from africa.

03:16:52 mircea_popescu: the sooner they go the way of malaria, the better.

03:17:03 ben_vulpes: kind of my point

03:17:18 ascii_lander: come now, who is to be the worker bee in the hive ?

03:17:34 mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> like nuke deterrent. << no, he has a point. the footage is valuable.

03:17:37 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the sooner they go the way of malaria, the better. << falcipram?

03:17:46 *: ascii_lander really does like them

03:18:01 ben_vulpes: so go out and talk to them!

03:18:07 mircea_popescu: but by and large im with williamdunne on this : if what it takes to force the usg into abject surrender is turning suburbia into iraq, fucking turn suburbia into iraq.

03:18:21 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: too high tech for my illiterate mind

03:18:34 ben_vulpes: fistful of tacks, i know

03:18:38 ascii_lander: ^

03:18:54 ben_vulpes: all tech though is learnable

03:19:01 ben_vulpes: you're just lazy and i think possibly scared

03:19:01 mircea_popescu: that simple policy : no groups allowed on this property. enforced with guns.

03:19:09 mircea_popescu: let them try and get around it. as the costs baloon they will give up.

03:19:12 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: The men bursting through doors are men like any other, if they think they will be met with a chestful of lead they are going to want a little more compensation for doing their job..

03:19:28 ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: i understand, the actual nuke-carriers chased me off the floor tonight.

03:19:38 ben_vulpes: but someday(!) i'll have their ears 'pon me necklace

03:19:47 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: 'lazy' is not quite the word. imagine you grew up without ever interacting with cars in any way other than jumping out from under the wheels of a speeding semi every other day.

03:20:05 BingoBoingo: Who wouldn't want to give process servers a bit of disincentive, right recon_eric ?

03:20:29 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes there's a subtle difference re "young mothers". serenissima is an elective thing. you don't get born into it, quite specifically.

03:21:17 ben_vulpes: no clearly, but the young can be set upon the road much more early can they not?

03:21:25 ascii_lander: williamdunne: … if they think they will be met with a chestful of lead they are going to want a little more compensation for doing their job.. << this is part of the process of how we got the 'no-knock warrant.' the next step is, of course, the 'shoot-first' warrant.

03:21:29 ascii_lander: we will get there.

03:21:41 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> all tech though is learnable << Not to all people. The engineering students who failed at video conferencing as the other part of my pharmacy school TA pairing.

03:21:45 BingoBoingo: Maybe the beatings were too few?

03:21:54 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i have no idea. maybe. you think ?

03:21:59 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: 'twas directed at ascii_lander

03:22:11 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i do intend to run the assperiment

03:22:23 ascii_lander: assperiment ?

03:22:25 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But applies everywhere

03:22:33 mircea_popescu: how does it go ? "honey, you're sixteen now, time to go be a whore in hong kong" ?

03:22:36 ben_vulpes: i suspect the odds are something abhorrent like 1/10 in each event

03:22:46 williamdunne: ascii_lander: There cannot be infinite escalation, and I would bet on the police being on the losing end. Shoot first warrants would end up with the neighbours making potshots at the police

03:23:02 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander nothing wrong with the "no knock" warrant. the point of escalation is escalation.

03:23:05 mircea_popescu: fucking shoot them.

03:23:11 ascii_lander: williamdunne: pot shots at the police are not compatible with glass-house civilization.

03:23:22 mircea_popescu: obviously.

03:23:26 ben_vulpes: if whoring is what she's bound to do she'll go into it well knowledgeable of the various optimizations to be made

03:23:27 ascii_lander: folks who need daily deliveries of $everything - won't be shooting at anyone.

03:23:36 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how is this bound thing go ?

03:23:52 ben_vulpes: peonage?

03:24:04 ben_vulpes: you tell me, you actually do the binding

03:24:12 mircea_popescu: use numerous words rather than have me guess. uh...

03:24:27 mircea_popescu: wait, so basically your plan is "whatever, i'll feed her, maybe she meets some guy that trains her" ?

03:24:30 ben_vulpes: why though is going off to whore necessary?

03:24:40 mircea_popescu: for teh experience, i imagined.

03:24:45 *: BingoBoingo offers that coyote hindquarters grill out to between 2-3 times the size of roid'd up 'Murican chikken thighs

03:24:49 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: the essential thing to realize is that mircea_popescu-ine methods only work with mircea_popescu-ine tech leve

03:24:50 ascii_lander: l

03:25:10 ascii_lander: and that attempting them elsewhere may disappoint, like trying to create doped diamond semiconductor in edison's lab

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03:25:17 mircea_popescu: i certainly do not propose i am in possession of answers to the world's problems.

03:25:30 mircea_popescu: HOWEVER! I do have some pretty good questions.

03:25:31 ben_vulpes: one does not train daughters in the way one trains wives and girlfriends.

03:25:43 mircea_popescu: so then what's an assperiment ?

03:25:47 ben_vulpes: while there are parallels, they as all must pick their masters.

03:25:50 ben_vulpes: a derpy pun!

03:25:58 ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-assets

03:26:07 mircea_popescu: anyway, the "i'll feed her and we'll see" plan is not really all that bad.

03:26:12 BingoBoingo: How much malbec is ben_vulpes's score tonight?

03:26:21 *: ascii_lander knows of no other algos that make any sense for this

03:26:31 *: ben_vulpes shrugs

03:26:35 ben_vulpes: worked for me

03:26:55 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: do you want to count the whole day's titration?

03:27:06 *: ascii_lander actually had nothing alcoholic today

03:27:06 ben_vulpes: anyways, at no point did my BAC approach anything interesting.

03:27:18 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes anyway, the problem of women, by and large, is that they're naturally afraid and most environments encourage this and bring them up cowardly.

03:27:20 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Total + hours is how I usually self-assess

03:27:25 *: ascii_lander was keeping brain working in reserve for… something.

03:27:32 mircea_popescu: a whore's just that : a symbol for "fearless woman".

03:27:35 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: shouldn't it be total/hours?

03:28:00 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Nah, + because alliteration with party

03:28:08 ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-parenting

03:28:39 mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> they love exposure. can terrorize 1000 people instead of 1 << this is false, ftr.

03:28:45 BingoBoingo: The / is a differnet metric ben_vulpes

03:29:01 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: how's that

03:29:03 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "fearless" is what i seek to instill.

03:29:22 BingoBoingo: The / is how drunk you are, The + is cumulative party value

03:29:37 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:49] !up SquirtPrincess << she's probably going to get more out of this than that indianchocolate

03:29:46 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: aha

03:30:04 *: ascii_lander realizes that he still has a full bag of hundies

03:30:04 ben_vulpes: well call it 1.25 liters and 8 hours

03:30:07 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander do you suppose the german concentration camps "terrorized" anyone ?

03:30:19 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: nope because wasn't build for it

03:30:36 BingoBoingo: Now there are derived metrics ben_vulpes that can be used to score time, value, and Xtreme of party ben_vulpes

03:30:40 ascii_lander: it wasn't a public impalement in the proper eurasian tradition

03:30:47 ascii_lander: *built

03:31:29 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander but they were put on the youtube of that time

03:31:38 ascii_lander: umm wat no.

03:31:40 mircea_popescu: who in the reich went "great, now terrorizes 1000 instead of 1"

03:31:55 ascii_lander: no they weren't

03:32:03 mircea_popescu: how do you then know of them ?

03:32:11 ascii_lander: come on, 'nacht und nebel' etc

03:32:16 mircea_popescu: no, after.

03:32:18 ascii_lander: we know from the post-war derpage

03:32:21 mircea_popescu: exactly.

03:32:27 mircea_popescu: this is what this is : the usg has been defeated.

03:32:33 mircea_popescu: now we are doing the post-war derpage.

03:32:41 ascii_lander: for a dead horse, it still gallops rather well.

03:32:49 mircea_popescu: the reich did too.

03:33:02 ascii_lander: or is the algo 1) get killed messily by usg 2) while camera rolls 3) ??? 4) profit

03:33:17 ascii_lander: i think i can probably manage 1 and 2

03:33:19 mircea_popescu: actually, if it hadn't had all its industry destroyed and a desperate want of money, it'd have continued practically unabated.

03:33:23 ascii_lander: but someone else will need to do 3 and 4

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03:33:30 mircea_popescu: the usg has similarly had all its industry destroyed and is entirely out of money.

03:33:41 ascii_lander: it isn't out of slaves yet

03:33:48 mircea_popescu: neither was the reich, in 1949

03:33:53 mircea_popescu: heck, the even built a wall!

03:34:01 ascii_lander: the one genuinely convertible wealth

03:34:24 ascii_lander: that wall would still be standing if there weren't a 'pepsi' competing reich to poke at it

03:34:29 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is what this is : the usg has been defeated. << Last I checked Will Smith was still president

03:34:32 mircea_popescu: but as to the subject of "slaves" : turns out the dea agents exist to go to parties in columbia and steal the stashes of bitcoin the usms was "auctioning"

03:34:37 mircea_popescu: ya know ? doesn't sound like much slaves to me.

03:34:41 mircea_popescu: more like odoacer slavery.

03:35:08 ascii_lander: the folks with the keys are the actual rulers, 'news at eleven'

03:35:54 ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> i think i can probably manage 1 and 2 << this though is the point

03:36:02 ben_vulpes: if one and two are to happen to one, at least ensure three and four

03:36:18 ascii_lander: 3 is ??? though.

03:36:28 mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes: there was no serenissima then << even today, serenissima cannot exterminate so much as a case of mice. yet << yeah, tell that to poor derpopo.

03:36:36 ben_vulpes: three only included for symmetry

03:36:38 BingoBoingo: !up recon_eric What's your liquid like? Homeowner? I'm kinda a savant when it comes to pointing at mexicans.

03:37:20 BingoBoingo: !up OldBenjamin

03:37:25 mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: and last year let a cat starve << that cat wouldn't eat.

03:37:40 ben_vulpes: wait i thought she was on payroll

03:37:48 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Coyote also doesn't taste bad

03:37:56 ben_vulpes: may i inquire as to the terms of that contract?

03:37:59 ben_vulpes: !up ascii_lander

03:38:05 ascii_lander: dank e ben_vulpes

03:38:27 ben_vulpes: bitte ascii_lander

03:38:35 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: She was on payroll and left reservation to maintain lifesupport on ventures that ought to dry

03:38:36 ascii_lander: wouldn't eat?

03:38:41 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://33.media.tumblr.com/a423a5c63dcb18f25e02418a90ceaddd/tumblr_ncmjn3Ymmz1tmc6gao8_r1_400.gif apparent winning doth not last.

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03:38:48 ben_vulpes: (ascii_lander: is that an actual tab?!)

03:39:21 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: stray tab

03:39:33 mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes: only pointing out that i, for example, would rather eat nagant than raise offspring << suppose pet lets you in on her secret : she's pregnant. what now ?

03:40:10 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: suppose lets in on secret that she was usg mole all along also.

03:40:18 ascii_lander: suppose xxxxx.

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03:40:41 ascii_lander: 'and what if the truck had been carrying ammo?' (™) ® © my father

03:40:43 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes she got a small advance to do some bits of work, turned out she needed more to live off, but it wasn't really enough, she decided that the process which found her the place to stay in the first place couldn't possibly work to keep her in it, and wandered off to meatspace.

03:40:48 mircea_popescu: whatever, people get to live their own lives.

03:41:20 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander so you won't entertain this theoretical ?

03:41:28 ascii_lander: i will entertain anything

03:41:33 mircea_popescu: ok, so what if ?

03:41:52 ascii_lander: but this is in the realm of 'wat if your mother were aggripina and plotting against you'

03:42:01 mircea_popescu: women can get pregnant, no ?

03:42:12 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: aha but we don't live in ar.

03:42:20 mircea_popescu: how do you mean ?

03:42:35 ascii_lander: we live where folks abort every morning before breakfast six times.

03:42:56 mircea_popescu: so if woman were pregnant you'd want her to abort, because lyf sucks ?

03:43:32 *: ascii_lander is as certain that woman is in full agreement re: this issue as that she isn't a usg succubus

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03:43:40 gribble: The operation succeeded.

03:43:44 ascii_lander: which is to say, if wrong about this, it makes sense to eat nagant

03:43:55 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander and so if she didn't want to you'd break up ?

03:44:00 ascii_lander: aha

03:44:08 mircea_popescu: and if you did break up, and she had no money,

03:44:12 mircea_popescu: you'd let her starve ?

03:44:16 ascii_lander: (does nagant count as breaking up?)

03:44:18 ascii_lander: aha

03:44:20 trinque: lol

03:44:24 mircea_popescu: seems a bit much.

03:44:37 trinque: feeding a kid and handing him books doesn't seem so bad

03:44:43 BingoBoingo: ^methotrexate oatmeal

03:45:26 ascii_lander: trinque: i need a usa kid slightly less than i need an extra hole in skull

03:45:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27070 @ 0.00033353 = 9.0287 BTC [+] {2}

03:45:43 mircea_popescu: what if she wanted to move to odessa to have it ?

03:45:51 ascii_lander: circa 1980 ?

03:45:53 ascii_lander: sure.

03:46:00 mircea_popescu: well then i guess tashkent

03:46:05 mircea_popescu: should be just about 1980 there.

03:46:05 ascii_lander: l0lno.

03:46:15 ascii_lander: it's somewhere south of 1989 here

03:46:17 ascii_lander: in ba

03:46:26 mircea_popescu: ok, so she wanted to move to santa fe

03:46:31 ascii_lander: waiwat

03:46:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80930 @ 0.00033494 = 27.1067 BTC [+] {3}

03:46:51 mircea_popescu: Santa Fe de la Vera Cruz, it's a city.

03:46:54 ascii_lander: we are nearing exhaustion of supply of unobtainium here

03:47:02 ascii_lander: for this gedankenexperiment

03:47:12 ascii_lander: at some point it has to touch earth

03:47:18 ascii_lander: or crashes

03:47:26 trinque: ascii_lander | trinque: i need a usa kid slightly less than i need an extra hole in skull << up to you if that's what he becomes

03:47:37 mircea_popescu: so a woman that gets pregnant and wants to move to argentina to raise her kid could not exist ?

03:48:03 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, virginal tits! http://40.media.tumblr.com/c4cb4fda06777a6f9867db07077980ea/tumblr_ne7qx7JNVI1tvmbtao1_1280.jpg

03:48:04 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhwJbx )

03:48:22 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: high-tech yes!

03:48:46 mircea_popescu: (i think alf may recognize that window gauze)

03:49:05 ascii_lander: wai wut

03:49:26 mircea_popescu: very 1980s eastern yurp a thing

03:49:29 mircea_popescu: you didn't have it ?

03:49:32 ascii_lander: ah in that sense yes

03:49:41 mircea_popescu: yes in that sense lol.

03:49:45 ascii_lander: it didn't even strike me as remarkable

03:49:51 ascii_lander: i actually have it in my sorry hovel in usa

03:49:54 mircea_popescu: i never saw it anywhere else.

03:50:00 ascii_lander: recreated from ancestral instinct lol

03:50:03 mircea_popescu: lol

03:50:24 *: ascii_lander assumed that mircea_popescu recognized it from my cam feedz or the like

03:51:02 mircea_popescu: "In cooperation with CoinStand, I will be launching a new version of Paybase. For now I call it Paybase2.

03:51:03 mircea_popescu: We are not ready to talk about what it will do yet. I will only say that when we launched Paybase we did it backwards. We build the software but did not have the financial relationships in place to support our goals (finished and tested deals with card networks, FIAT to crypto licenses, banks fully committed to supporting us, etc)."

03:51:04 mircea_popescu: ahaha fucktard.

03:51:07 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: to round off the offspring thread: remember the case of the sea anemone ?

03:51:15 mircea_popescu: wasn't he derping about how the coin can't go under, financial relationships, etc ?

03:51:21 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander mno ?

03:51:57 ascii_lander: 'The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the sea searching for a suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home for life. For this task, it has a rudimentary nervous system. When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn't need its brain anymore, so it eats it! It's rather like getting tenure.'

03:52:08 ascii_lander: or mircea_popescu's essay about his father

03:52:21 mircea_popescu: ah yes

03:52:25 ascii_lander: so this.

03:52:31 *: ascii_lander will die with his brain still in

03:53:07 mircea_popescu: you know, it's not written in the fucking repository of thermodynamic laws you have to raise your children like the retarded americans.

03:53:21 mircea_popescu: how about, the women raise them, in the gyneceum, and you just sit ?

03:53:25 *: BingoBoingo will only go so far as to say I will probably die

03:53:36 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: gyneceum - aha would sign up for that.

03:53:38 ascii_lander: right now.

03:53:46 ascii_lander: where's the fucking dotted line to sign, l0l

03:53:54 ascii_lander: but that isn't on the dial, aha

03:54:00 mircea_popescu: i dunno, just looking around.

03:54:03 ascii_lander: on the dial - derpistan.

03:54:12 ascii_lander: 'greatest country in the wurld

03:54:12 mircea_popescu: why not, your gf's jealous ?

03:54:14 ascii_lander: ' (TM)

03:54:25 mircea_popescu: !up jayk

03:54:37 ascii_lander: ah no. just that yours truly is a bound peon of derpistan

03:54:45 mircea_popescu: so ?

03:54:57 mircea_popescu: im pretty sure you can have people living together in the us

03:55:00 ascii_lander: 'filtration system a marvel to behold! it removes eighty percent of huuuuman sooolid waaaaste..!'

03:55:02 mircea_popescu: maybe not in wisconsin, but generally.

03:55:42 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: recall the 'fool's gasout' thread ?

03:55:48 mircea_popescu: 800 lines in 3 hours, myeah ok, clearly y'all are a buncha addicts.

03:55:50 mircea_popescu: and no

03:56:05 ascii_lander: to entirely insulate from derpization, need lethal enforcement of separation from derpistani rules

03:56:22 ascii_lander: as in, full martian dome

03:56:41 mircea_popescu: ...

03:56:42 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander is probably regretting seriously his not expatirating his keys with self.

03:56:56 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: actually i did

03:57:00 mircea_popescu: is the contention here that you'd get fired it word got out that you and three women are raising two children or something ?

03:57:01 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: fat lotta good

03:57:26 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: And why aren't you pricing empenada carts yet?

03:57:33 ascii_lander: !s free range children

03:57:34 assbot: 0 results for 'free range children' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=free+range+children

03:57:41 ascii_lander: !s freerange

03:57:41 assbot: 1 results for 'freerange' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=freerange

03:57:55 ascii_lander: damnit we had this thread

03:58:18 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander but if the women raise them what do you care ?

03:58:40 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: if they get usderpized what do i need them for again ?

03:59:06 mircea_popescu: interesting.

03:59:18 ascii_lander: i would like the ability to shoot them, for example, at any age

03:59:30 mircea_popescu: what if it comes with their ability to shoot you ?

03:59:32 ascii_lander: if they are a waste of oxygen

03:59:41 ascii_lander: ability to shoot me is a given already

03:59:48 ascii_lander: happens often enough as it is where i live

04:00:07 mircea_popescu: aha

04:00:30 ascii_lander: but to get back the unobtainium - aha, gynacaeum, sure

04:00:33 ascii_lander: signmeup.

04:00:42 ascii_lander: let's the dirigible too

04:00:49 mircea_popescu: that'd be one hell of a murder trial. "why did you kill your own children!!11" "they... weren't all that impressive"

04:01:05 ascii_lander: !s dumplings

04:01:05 assbot: 14 results for 'dumplings' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dumplings

04:01:18 ascii_lander: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#509010

04:01:18 assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'

04:01:26 ascii_lander: ^ it

04:01:33 mircea_popescu: but alf, what if they happen to excel at something you just don't happen to recognize as a thing ?

04:01:45 ascii_lander: then i suck and hopefully they poison me 1st

04:01:49 mircea_popescu: and then later you figure out you murdered turing for being gay and are all regretful and gotta poke out your eyes ?

04:01:51 ascii_lander: for the sake of phyooture(tm)

04:02:02 ascii_lander: then clearly.

04:02:18 mircea_popescu: this should be a play, if we got any playwrights in the audience :D

04:02:37 ascii_lander: but at any rate, we can play the unobtainium game, great phun. yes, if had starship, would travel to proxima centauri, would xxxxx, yyyy.

04:02:51 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: You are too valuable to been poisoned by cunt snot like that. Go for adoption and multi-continent ascii proliferation

04:02:52 mircea_popescu: ;;google sweet dreams are made of this

04:02:53 gribble: Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_Dreams_(Are_Made_of_This); Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This) (Official Video ...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg; Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams (are Made Of This) Lyrics | MetroLyrics: http://www.metrolyrics.com/sweet-dreams-are-made-of-this-lyrics- (1 more message)

04:03:02 ascii_lander: none of it seems the least bit applicable to my actual meatengineering constraints

04:03:27 mircea_popescu: i dunno dood. even ncos manage to get azn chicks pregnant.

04:03:39 ascii_lander: ncos are three 'ph.d.'s ahead of

04:03:44 *: ascii_lander .

04:03:59 trinque: to be fair, the east coast is pretty dystopian

04:04:01 mircea_popescu: you looked at pay grades ?

04:04:03 trinque: I dunno that I'd want to raise a kid there

04:04:28 ascii_lander: the only formula i'd sign up for is mircea_popescu's gynacaeum

04:04:30 BingoBoingo: Middle west isn't so bad other than Ohio and Kansas

04:04:42 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander maybe mine doesn't fit ?

04:04:47 ascii_lander: l0l

04:04:54 mircea_popescu: guy walks into tailor's, "gimme a suit just like that guy's!"

04:04:57 ascii_lander: obviously every man - own emacs config!

04:05:07 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu would not use my emacs

04:05:10 ascii_lander: or vice-versa.

04:05:32 ascii_lander: not without some serious work under magnifying glass, at least.

04:05:51 *: ascii_lander does see emacs as most intimate item, more than eyeglasses

04:06:07 ascii_lander: there probably liveth somebody who could see pretty well with mine on

04:06:13 mircea_popescu: eyeglasses aren't that intimate yo.

04:06:13 ascii_lander: but my emacs? fuhgettaboutit

04:06:16 mircea_popescu: try anal hooks.

04:06:17 ascii_lander: precisely

04:07:40 ascii_lander: but yes, mircea_popescu can feel victorious, l0l, he satisfied the system of simultanous equations which point to a solution, far from physical space, where i'd want offsprint.

04:07:42 ascii_lander: *offspring

04:07:47 BingoBoingo: So, even reddit has one bright corner https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/32ze1v/working_in_a_food_bank_i_am_a_useless_piece_of/

04:07:50 assbot: Working in a food bank: I am a "useless piece of sexy ass" : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dc07s0 )

04:08:01 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander hey, nothing wrong with a little exploration.

04:09:06 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

04:09:18 ascii_lander: dank e BingoBoingo

04:09:39 *: BingoBoingo thought dank was yesterday, but accepts

04:09:42 *: ascii_lander getting emacs withdrawal pinky-twitch

04:10:18 BingoBoingo: * ascii_lander getting emacs withdrawal pinky-twitch << Girl sounds like solid solution to this problem

04:10:29 ascii_lander: solution to just about everything

04:10:48 *: ascii_lander eyes attison detector

04:11:01 ben_vulpes: it twitched, you didn't notice

04:11:14 BingoBoingo: It's slammed to the right, too late

04:11:18 ben_vulpes: more likely, suborned from get-go right?

04:11:22 ascii_lander: 'arrow hasn't moved, how could it' (™) (r)

04:11:39 BingoBoingo: Lizards are over, all hail our Avian overlords

04:11:47 ben_vulpes: aves uber alles

04:11:51 ascii_lander: 'He does, but as he's walking out the door, he yells his parting words loudly enough for half the food bank to hear, "YOU NOTHIN BUT A SEXY PIECE OF ASS. USELESS FOR ANYTHING ELSE. JUST A USELESS, SEXY PIECE OF ASS."'

04:12:05 BingoBoingo: lol

04:12:16 ascii_lander: 'you nothing but a fast cpu, useless for anything else' he said to the pentium

04:12:28 ascii_lander: pentium: '....'

04:13:06 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: How close is your ghetto to Baltimore?

04:13:13 ascii_lander: close enough

04:13:18 ascii_lander: i wander in there on occasion

04:13:22 ascii_lander: see the fishes.

04:13:41 BingoBoingo: Because Baltimore is having its own "Ferguson" moment that started in your absence

04:13:50 ascii_lander: (for free-world folks: that's where they keep the mega-aquarium)

04:14:23 BingoBoingo: Tread lightly, tan, and work on that Rioplantentanese.

04:14:43 *: ascii_lander hasn't been there in a good long while.

04:15:55 BingoBoingo: Your region jsut recently had a ferguson. Pick up a jerzy of a darker baseball player and wear it when transiting dark places. Embrace the foreigner card.

04:16:38 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: i don't do much movement on foot there, at any rate

04:17:17 BingoBoingo: Still, if like Fergonson pedestrians will try to jump on motor carriages.

04:17:44 *: ascii_lander isn't to be found often in urban zones at all, in usa

04:18:39 BingoBoingo: You'd be surprised how far out of the Urban core a 'Ferguson' affects a certain subspecies of Homo Spaniens.

04:18:48 ascii_lander: eventually - all of it

04:18:58 ascii_lander: axe-time, sword-time.

04:19:35 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Baltimore incident was spinal injury in City holding cell. I'd recommend pricing empenada stands in #b-a

04:19:52 ascii_lander: i'm pricing garbage sorter stand

04:20:08 ascii_lander: (apparently this is a mega-business here, like in ussr)

04:20:39 ben_vulpes: lol ascii_lander they don't have stands

04:20:40 BingoBoingo: I am totally unaware.

04:20:50 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: they have… turf

04:21:45 BingoBoingo: just... Ferguson style protestors when they can't hang the cops become a regional blight.

04:22:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9025 @ 0.00033591 = 3.0316 BTC [+]

04:24:55 ascii_lander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=honKKT4azhQ << for phans of ' axe-time sword-time '

04:24:57 assbot: Sassafrass--Ice and Fire - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhATQs )

04:25:14 ascii_lander: as mentioned to hanbot in the sushi place

04:26:14 BingoBoingo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-yvoF5rEc

04:26:15 assbot: cash out union - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhB3aB )

04:27:21 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: I dunno how organized you local fauna, but you mentioned bicycling places. I am clearly exurbanly located and... Close encounters with wild like happen

04:27:26 BingoBoingo: *wild life

04:27:48 BingoBoingo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36wFh06pd0w

04:27:50 assbot: shady navy/moody/merl da union limas out - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhBemj )

04:27:54 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: mostly in the past

04:28:31 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Check your local news. It looks like your croppers are full Ferguson mode.

04:28:49 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: they were in d.c. proper, during ferguson proper

04:28:55 ascii_lander: it was an interesting sight

04:29:10 ascii_lander: all the cops in the city standing around, in boredom, collecting overtime pay

04:29:22 ascii_lander: waiting for the wildfire that never came

04:29:33 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: But now they have a local injury. Does your foot get red when your thigh has an abcese?

04:30:23 ascii_lander: incidentally d.c. proper is an educational museum of how orc riots are quite precisely centrally organized and decreed

04:30:39 BingoBoingo: Of course.

04:30:49 ascii_lander: various streets can be distinguished as 'permissible for orc burn' or not, to the naked eye

04:31:03 BingoBoingo: Unfortunately US-50 connects StL and DC

04:31:04 ascii_lander: ones not 'permissible' - are, to date, impregnable

04:31:40 ascii_lander: wake me up when they overrun the armory.

04:31:55 BingoBoingo: The StL varietal has a history of burning buildings to sell bricks to Atlanta and Florida subdivisions

04:32:10 ascii_lander: until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure)

04:32:19 BingoBoingo: ANd of course there is US-50

04:33:11 BingoBoingo: <ascii_lander> until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure) << I only worry because I've pointed local orcs to qntra posts

04:33:40 *: ascii_lander wonders if even in mircea_popescu

04:33:44 ascii_lander: 's formula,

04:33:58 ascii_lander: offspring are still a liability, because one might conceivably grow attached to them

04:34:02 ascii_lander: and then hostages

04:34:45 ascii_lander: consider why there was successful uprising at treblinka

04:34:52 ascii_lander: but scarcely anywhere else among the camps

04:35:28 ascii_lander: (because, elementarily, was full of unattached young men. who understood their proper natural function, that of kamikaze)

04:38:11 BingoBoingo: The brewing Chicom problem

04:39:25 *: BingoBoingo hopes ascii_lander lives long enough to see burned out ruins on the U Maryland campus nearly as glamorous as I saw at MIssou

04:39:30 BingoBoingo: *Mizzou

04:39:36 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

04:39:44 ascii_lander: umd actually has some (lame) ruins

04:39:47 ascii_lander: from old fires

04:40:14 ascii_lander: properly speaking, most of it is a ruin as it is. simply, an inhabited one.

04:40:25 BingoBoingo: Mizzou only needed one big fire to get big ruins that are still the campus centerpiece

04:45:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3350 @ 0.00033591 = 1.1253 BTC [+]

04:45:48 mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> incidentally d.c. proper is an educational museum << same bs in ba

04:46:34 ascii_lander: who burned ba ?

04:46:53 ascii_lander: 'respekt the wurkerz' ?

04:46:59 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander attached, sure. doesn't prevent one making more. there's a line between attachment and mania.

04:47:11 ascii_lander: making more << again with atomic dirigible

04:47:26 ascii_lander: yes, with it - turn on 7Hz blaster, cities fall

04:47:30 ascii_lander: can make 'more' of anything

04:47:42 ascii_lander: without it - dig in mud, with other ants

04:47:51 mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> 'respekt the wurkerz' ? << basically.

04:48:05 *: ascii_lander notes for folks who missed the 'fool's gasout' thread that: atomic dirigible isn't 'money'

04:48:23 ascii_lander: it's this thing that mircea_popescu flies around on

04:48:26 ascii_lander: mighty spiffy

04:48:55 mircea_popescu: pregnant virgin angel wings ?

04:48:59 ascii_lander: aha.

04:49:09 ascii_lander: morphs into these when parking's tight

04:49:16 ascii_lander: at other times, normal zeppelin

04:49:32 ascii_lander: but atomic.

04:50:18 mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/32ze1v/working_in_a_food_bank_i_am_a_useless_piece_of/ << myeah, if average donor had an idea what the beneficiaries are like, they'd donate warm lead.

04:50:20 assbot: Working in a food bank: I am a "useless piece of sexy ass" : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhDBFN )

04:50:52 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: as it is, the warm lead (and jizzm) is donated by the beneficiaries, not vice-versa

04:51:04 mircea_popescu: backwards world.

04:51:27 ascii_lander: as with any thermodynamic atrocity, this one is maintained at tremendous expense.

04:51:55 mircea_popescu: "And on through eeeeeevery item. "I'm just gunna take two milks." "No, you aren't, unless that second milk is worth being thrown out of this food bank." And on. And on. Really, people end up with several bags of food anyway. Provided they take the "wimmin food" like fruit and peanut butter."

04:52:07 mircea_popescu: it's basically, the same children that needed to be beaten 50 years ago,

04:52:16 mircea_popescu: still begging for that one beating that'd have sorted them out.

04:52:18 mircea_popescu: 50 years later.

04:52:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00032223 = 1.9363 BTC [-]

04:52:46 ascii_lander: aha

04:52:48 ascii_lander: but,

04:52:56 ascii_lander: 'hunchback is straightened by his grave'

04:53:08 *: ascii_lander saw some truly kick-ass graves today

04:53:20 ascii_lander: spiffier than any flat i've ever lived in

04:53:39 mircea_popescu: lol

04:53:49 ascii_lander: some probably more sq. m. than my current pad

04:53:56 ascii_lander: if you add up the levels

04:54:10 ascii_lander: (one appeared to go 4 stories down, and then to water)

04:54:18 mircea_popescu: "I'll post this in my next story, but a line said by a lady I very much admire that has stuck with me: "Those who are the least likeable are also the most in need of your help."

04:54:18 mircea_popescu: Sometimes I give an extra item to people I especially dislike, or go out of my way to compliment them. Many people, given a chance, will be friendly, even if they're often quick to anger/lash out otherwise."

04:54:20 mircea_popescu: imbeciles.

04:55:53 ascii_lander: wtf

04:56:12 *: BingoBoingo worries ascii_lander is unprepared for changes in local climate

04:56:22 mircea_popescu: hunting the image. "were friendly". as if the appearance of friendliness is worth two shits.

04:56:49 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: as prepared as the next schmuck

04:57:12 ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: wonder what said organism would answer if told that 'friendly' means 'open to spreading legs'

04:57:19 ascii_lander: all of a sudden - not so friendly

04:57:29 ascii_lander: easy to throw bone that costs nothing

04:57:35 ascii_lander: now throw own hip bone

04:57:37 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: If you can find historical "sundown town" of similar inconvenience to yourself may be worth investment to move rent beams

04:57:41 ascii_lander: as in mircea_popescu's rhyme

04:57:45 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander as the tango dancer put it, "the man pushes so the woman knows to spread her legs and let him get in"

04:57:56 ascii_lander: l0l

04:58:22 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: funnily enough, i live in a sector of suburb full of south amer. in particular, argentinians...

04:58:28 ascii_lander: (as far as can tell)

04:58:51 ascii_lander: mainly artisans (mechanics, builders, plumbers, etc)

04:58:57 BingoBoingo: Oh, dunno if those would past muster last century

04:59:31 *: ascii_lander isn't in their wot, expects to be killed for supplies

04:59:51 *: ascii_lander will disappoint the cannibals. hasn't much of any use to anyone

05:00:33 *: BingoBoingo offers screening towns by when they got rid of breaking wheel in town square

05:02:48 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: historical… inconvenience… << if could move, would move here. as it is, gluetrap.

05:04:00 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: but to put things in perspective: you and i won't be moving to the b-a mircea_popescu, hanbot, mthreat et al live in

05:04:11 ascii_lander: but to the one the stray cats in the cemetary live in

05:04:22 mircea_popescu: wait, meta-bsas ? already ?

05:04:25 ascii_lander: they are, one might correctly presume, somewhat different places.

05:04:44 ascii_lander: in one, for instance, folks sleep ad libitum.

05:05:17 ascii_lander: now, the cat-b-a is still lightyears ahead of, e.g., wash., d.c.

05:05:30 ascii_lander: but important to keep a handle on the picture.

05:06:01 BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: I'll probably move to boring Expat B-A, after financial center of plain 3rd world country. Does not alleviate your need to get a Nyjer Morgan Washington Nationals Jersey for driving cross town.

05:06:01 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes this especially is written for you ^ compadre.

05:07:01 ascii_lander: incidentally, the cemetery cats are of the highest quality.

05:07:03 ascii_lander: top pet.

05:07:30 ascii_lander: moiety valhalla.

05:08:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00033591 = 1.4948 BTC [+]

05:10:20 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

05:15:48 *: BingoBoingo was "Go, Go, Fergusson"

05:15:57 BingoBoingo: Now understands the horror

05:16:31 ascii_lander: horror or 'go go' depends on which side of the guernica you're sitting on

05:16:34 ascii_lander: as always.

05:18:32 BingoBoingo: Some battles, literally color coded.... Zulu vs. Boer

05:18:51 ascii_lander: welcome to yugousaia

05:19:08 ascii_lander: (as if it were new)

05:19:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00033629 = 3.1275 BTC [+] {2}

05:19:11 BingoBoingo: lol

05:22:01 BingoBoingo: !up badon

05:28:49 ascii_lander: BingoBoingo et al: http://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/Buenos-Aires-crypts-full-of-unusual-sights-tales-2370223.php

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05:35:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00033356 = 4.8533 BTC [-] {2}

05:36:36 BingoBoingo: !up psztorc

05:41:06 BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/33flsl/the_day_i_realized_i_officially_cant_stand_nilla/

05:41:07 assbot: The Day I Realized I Officially Can’t Stand Nilla Wafer : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1bsZepN )

05:41:10 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

05:41:21 ascii_lander: wut

05:41:32 ascii_lander: this even exists.

05:43:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00033718 = 2.276 BTC [+]

05:43:59 BingoBoingo: seriously /r/fatpeoplestories is the only readable /r/

05:44:09 ascii_lander: readable?!

05:45:02 BingoBoingo: compared to /r/bitcoin

05:45:22 BingoBoingo: Content is basically the same

05:46:33 BingoBoingo: Illustrations are much more vivid in /r/fatpeoplestories though

05:52:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00032299 = 10.3357 BTC [-] {3}

05:52:45 *: BingoBoingo bed time

06:00:53 ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> morphs into these when parking's tight << i imagine a special flat where he relaxes into his final chthonian form

06:01:35 ben_vulpes: likely next to evita - subterranean access from nearby barrio

06:01:38 ben_vulpes: because? why not

06:01:46 ben_vulpes: "we must because we can"

06:02:40 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/32ze1v/working_in_a_food_bank_i_am_a_useless_piece_of/ << myeah, if average donor had an idea what the beneficiaries are like, they'd donate warm lead. << folks frequently exhort me to "donate time at redacted house", to see what life is like for these people.

06:02:42 assbot: Working in a food bank: I am a "useless piece of sexy ass" : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1bt5qxZ )

06:03:06 mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what "life is like" ?

06:03:08 ben_vulpes: little do they know that the episcopalians dragged me through this particular gutter as a youth and cemented my opinions of the subhumans.

06:03:21 ben_vulpes: i suppose it is supposed to inspire pity?

06:03:27 mircea_popescu: ...

06:03:33 ben_vulpes: "you've never worked a service industry job, have you?"

06:03:49 ben_vulpes: "you've never lived on $10/hr, have you?"

06:03:53 mircea_popescu: "this person sucks because of his sucky environment" "yes, that is exactly what i was saying : that this person is an empty vessel. he contributes nothing from inside."

06:03:54 ben_vulpes: both of which - yes.

06:03:55 mircea_popescu: logic.

06:03:57 mircea_popescu: !up aabtc

06:04:28 mircea_popescu: i've done neither. i've also not laid eggs, nor have i been a steel girder to "see what it's like" for rebar.

06:04:29 ben_vulpes: almost died of co poisoning one time cutting radiant heat lines into concrete in a basement.

06:04:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38450 @ 0.00032206 = 12.3832 BTC [-] {2}

06:05:17 ben_vulpes: swore shortly thereafter to claw my way out of potentially lethal and unremunerative work.

06:05:34 ben_vulpes: am rather pleased with my progress.

06:06:55 ben_vulpes: * ascii_lander saw some truly kick-ass graves today << i have such a greater appreciation for mod6, ascii_*, mircea_popescu, mike_c, davout, hanbot in-chan utterances now

06:07:03 ben_vulpes: !up psztorc

06:07:07 ben_vulpes: we have orcs now?

06:07:52 ben_vulpes: explicit orcs i suppose

06:07:56 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes whyssat ?

06:08:08 ben_vulpes: pszt/orc/

06:08:25 ben_vulpes: or the flavor of utterances?

06:08:39 ben_vulpes: (mthreat too, i should add)

06:10:11 mircea_popescu: the flavour

06:10:25 mircea_popescu: i can tokenize strings too you know!

06:11:19 ben_vulpes: an example'd be the "kick-ass" utterance.

06:12:07 ben_vulpes: ascii_* has a /way/ of saying it that must be seen for the grokking

06:12:20 ben_vulpes: idem with your impatient hand-fluttering at my nitwitisms

06:12:27 mircea_popescu: lol

06:13:14 mircea_popescu: well, im off! laters artists & artisans

06:13:25 ben_vulpes: and the cadence of speech you employ when forced to beat sense into such as me

06:13:35 ben_vulpes: da da, da da, da da, da da!

06:14:08 ben_vulpes: bon chance, mircea_popescu

06:15:28 psztorc: that's my polish last name Sztorc

06:15:39 ben_vulpes: psztorc: fitting

06:16:09 ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes this especially is written for you ^ compadre. << d'you know how far forward i look to the ancient stone warehouse of garbage that must be cleared by hand?!

06:17:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00032597 = 1.9884 BTC [+]

06:36:01 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/2oujsf/the_saga_of_the_great_white_land_whale_part_1/ << what have you done

06:36:04 assbot: The Saga of The Great White Land Whale - Part 1 : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1FdfmXE )

06:43:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00032597 = 2.3796 BTC [+]

06:45:43 ben_vulpes: cazalla: oh man you gotta read this series

06:58:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00032682 = 3.3989 BTC [+] {2}

07:02:15 ben_vulpes: GTS managed to get a grip on the box, which sent JLW into a Fat-Fury™ frenzy of incoherant screaming and flailing limbs. One of which smacked GTS right in the face, causing her to spill the remaining slices all over the ground. Her fist clenched as her arm drew back and I knew nothing would stop her from punching JLW right in the face. Except JLW was already on the ground, desperately trying to

07:02:17 ben_vulpes: scoop up bits of dough and toppings and

07:02:19 ben_vulpes: stuff them into her mouth. The anger drained out of GTS, to be replaced by disbelief and disgust, as she stood there watching JLW eat floor pizza.

07:02:21 ben_vulpes: floor pizza!

07:02:34 ben_vulpes: dude this is 100x better than the gaw shit

07:04:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93700 @ 0.0003381 = 31.68 BTC [+] {4}

07:21:15 cazalla: ben_vulpes, why would i wanna read stories about fat shaming plus anyway, nothing tops http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/a5/7c/a57c21_4510731.jpg

07:21:16 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IGmmeJ )

07:22:16 cazalla: looks like beauregard got in contact, time to update that post

07:57:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16643 @ 0.00031855 = 5.3016 BTC [-]

08:03:03 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell cazalla there are worse ways to spend a few hours and also better but few with comprable lulzdensity

08:03:04 gribble: The operation succeeded.

08:05:42 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell ascii_lander don't wait up for me tomorrow

08:05:42 gribble: The operation succeeded.

08:07:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16250 @ 0.00033859 = 5.5021 BTC [+]

08:19:52 []bot: Bet placed: 6.84303812 BTC for No on " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 25(Y):75(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.06303812 BTC. Current weight: 98,180.

08:22:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00031539 = 8.2001 BTC [-] {2}

09:07:06 davout: !r ben_vulpes 3 met IRL, malbec-immune

09:07:15 davout: !rate ben_vulpes 3 met IRL, malbec-immune

09:07:15 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fb099fb7d881e4df

09:07:34 davout: !v assbot:davout.rate.ben_vulpes.3:ead2f9ed2eabada50db11e15fef25dde55812f86635c1313c08e6e657a41e38d

09:07:34 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 3 for ben_vulpes with note: met IRL, malbec-immune

09:08:19 davout: !rate mod6 met IRL

09:08:20 assbot: Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10.

09:08:24 davout: !rate 3 mod6 met IRL

09:08:24 assbot: 3 is not registered in WoT.

09:08:30 davout: !rate mod6 3 met IRL

09:08:30 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ab9a92a39fa42bad

09:08:47 davout: !v assbot:davout.rate.mod6.3:cf77b2e068a59b777dfb7853810e7f4f206a1dea39b049984c4f6827054b3b13

09:08:47 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 3 for mod6 with note: met IRL

09:09:43 davout: kakobrekla: out of curiosity, how are the OTP hashes computed?

09:14:07 davout: !rate mthreat 2 met IRL

09:14:07 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/3172af9ef21c82b0

09:14:24 davout: !v assbot:davout.rate.mthreat.2:92c90f3070c48c815840fbc6676f032e8d2cf0a86efffc9825b23411541c2b0e

09:14:24 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for mthreat with note: met IRL

09:14:28 davout: !rate chetty 2 met IRL

09:14:28 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/99044f05b8f6d546

09:14:54 davout: !v assbot:davout.rate.chetty.2:8d8afec373d02ac71e1fb8ae1ea6fa5b86f14f50cf2f8964b8a82cf929f9729e

09:14:54 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for chetty with note: met IRL

09:26:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00031823 = 5.8236 BTC [+]

09:29:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36350 @ 0.00031663 = 11.5095 BTC [-] {3}

09:34:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00031846 = 2.1655 BTC [+]

09:43:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00031846 = 2.9617 BTC [+]

09:47:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00032899 = 3.0103 BTC [+] {3}

09:54:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.0003305 = 8.3286 BTC [+] {2}

10:01:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.00033056 = 15.3049 BTC [+]

10:15:15 cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKCRHhmHvjg

10:15:16 assbot: Mes Aïeux - Dégénération (English Subtitles) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1aRrctV )

10:25:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19412 @ 0.0003239 = 6.2875 BTC [-] {2}

10:25:30 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 13.68313103 BTC. Current weight: 98,047.

10:40:32 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107087 << he lives in a sheltered bubble, never heard any of this before.

10:40:32 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 07:21:15; cazalla: ben_vulpes, why would i wanna read stories about fat shaming plus anyway, nothing tops http://static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/a5/7c/a57c21_4510731.jpg

10:43:18 cazalla: i guess reddit generation think such stories are new, having never heard of grouphug.us etc

10:46:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25950 @ 0.00031294 = 8.1208 BTC [-]

10:47:08 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107127 << pretty decent that

10:47:08 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 10:15:15; cazalla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKCRHhmHvjg

10:48:48 cazalla: yeah, i like it

10:50:45 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107076 << the one thing that seems remarkable to me about the otherwise illiterate prose typical of rettardit is, just how desocialised these people are.

10:50:45 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 06:36:01; ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/2oujsf/the_saga_of_the_great_white_land_whale_part_1/ << what have you done

10:51:08 mircea_popescu: so, a guy and his best friend. ok, this happens. they're friends for the usual stupid reasons : lived nearby, and never contradicted each other.

10:51:19 mircea_popescu: only fucktarded teens think this way, but then again i guess that's what they are.

10:51:51 mircea_popescu: then one's family is a military man and his pliable wife. but no, not for shithead. "B&P (Booze&Pills) : Ahabs good for almost nothing, rehab bound mother. Major Asshole : Ahabs equally absent and physically abusive military father."

10:52:20 mircea_popescu: you know, if THAT woman had an equally uncharitable view of the speaker, he'd probably read "good for almost nothing but shitting diapers idiot"

10:52:49 mircea_popescu: now why exactly would someone decide that their home life is miserable ? oh, because that's how fucktarded adolescents think. okay.

10:53:11 mircea_popescu: viva la reddit, but at least learn teh fucking rhetorics, rather than deluge the interwebs in chicken scribblings.

10:53:48 mircea_popescu: but the kicker : the other family is a successful man and his ambitious wife. THIS IS ALSO NOT GOOD.

10:54:02 mircea_popescu: what the fuck would it take for these idiots to think their parents ~their superiors~ ?

10:55:27 mircea_popescu: cuz i suspect this is the deep reason asciilifeform doesn't want offspring. i tell you if the 19 yo snot that imagines he's better than me (like you know, every single fuctkared 19 yo snot "being famous in the bitcoin community" etc that we see here periodically bubble up his idiocy and then six months later fail abjectly and disappear) actually grew up in my house, i'd shoot it to death with blunt toothpicks.

10:56:26 mircea_popescu: which i suppose makes me the perfect storm of a horribru father (as per reddit) : the cross between "absent and physically abusive military father." and "coke snorting, random hooker banging, land development dealing father."

10:56:54 mircea_popescu: fucking hell, they hold whoring against the man that does it but not in favour of the man that doesn't do it ? ball beatings already.

11:00:41 mircea_popescu: "a girl whose sense of worth was so over-inflated it could lift a fleet of Zeppelins." yeah, totally. this is probably the iconic reddit comment. what, buoyancy ? words are words and the world consists of pictures. blips are big, so this simile works!

11:44:18 davout: "it could lift a fleet of Zeppelins" <<< bwhahah

11:50:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46877 @ 0.00033346 = 15.6316 BTC [+] {2}

11:52:57 mircea_popescu: pretty much all the derpternet is good for these days is this sort of unintentional self-humour crit > 9000

11:54:49 jurov: lolk, but.. what would be better simile example to overinflated self-worth?

11:57:46 mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, lift the washington monument, realign jupiter, fill the mariane gap, cover the usg deficit

11:57:50 mircea_popescu: not like there's a shortage.

11:58:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48400 @ 0.0003384 = 16.3786 BTC [+] {2}

11:59:02 jurov: i don't see how these are better (with exception of the usg deficit maybe)

12:00:04 mircea_popescu: because a zepellin has 0 apparent weight, so it lifts itself ?

12:01:11 jurov: i understood it as the overinflated self-worth replacing the hydrogen, not adding a lift :)

12:01:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35150 @ 0.00032787 = 11.5246 BTC [-] {2}

12:01:45 mircea_popescu: " Unsurprisingly, this level of (motherly) indulgence and (fatherly) neglect had produced a girl whose sense of worth was so over-inflated it could lift a fleet of Zeppelins."

12:01:57 mircea_popescu: a fleet of zeppelins needs no further lift.

12:02:30 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> pretty much all the derpternet is good for these days is this sort of unintentional self-humour crit > 9000 << Aha, you've hit the funniest part. The self described peaks of physical fitness can observe the fat logic, but are nearly incapable of realizing most of them are entirely unsocialized. Lulz on both sides.

12:02:58 mircea_popescu: "hey, i'm just as stupid as him, but at least i'm not fat!"

12:03:08 mircea_popescu: "so what's your excuse then"

12:03:10 mircea_popescu: "what ?!?!?"

12:04:34 *: BingoBoingo probably should have waited until later in the year to start making juleps with yard mint.

12:08:03 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/04/theymos-complies-with-yet-another-subpoena/#comment-19355 << Morning lols

12:08:04 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1DAmmIO )

12:09:29 mircea_popescu: i don't understand how beautyon wants this gpg forum thing to work

12:09:39 mircea_popescu: how do you encrypt a posting today to the key of future readers ?

12:11:21 BingoBoingo: Seriously

12:12:04 BingoBoingo: Public information generally needs to go plaintext or clearsigned

12:15:30 davout: ^this

12:20:12 davout: for those who enjoyed the tango show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbioJazMnW8

12:20:13 assbot: Astor Piazzolla Libertango(piano and violoncello).flv - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DAn2Oe )

12:35:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30750 @ 0.00031656 = 9.7342 BTC [-] {4}

12:41:52 mats: http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/futures-trader-charged-illegally-manipulating-stock-market-contributing-may-2010-market-flash

12:41:53 assbot: Futures Trader Charged with Illegally Manipulating Stock Market, Contributing to the May 2010 Market ‘Flash Crash’ | OPA | Department of Justice ... ( http://bit.ly/1DAo3pE )

12:44:43 mircea_popescu: lol they found the culprit huh

12:46:05 mircea_popescu: "I?m not going to make this about the so-called hacker who is responsible for the list, claiming he did it to prove a point about the safety of Fetlife?s members. Attention is what the douchebag wants and I refuse to give it to him. Now, did he breach Fetlife as he?s claimed? Of course not. That takes a skill he lacks."

12:46:18 mircea_popescu: dude why is it that every internet derp thinks his attention is important, valuable or desired ?

12:46:26 mircea_popescu: other than the obvious "well it's all he's got, it'd better be"

12:53:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00032594 = 2.086 BTC [+]

12:59:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00033613 = 5.7478 BTC [+] {2}

13:05:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29050 @ 0.00032805 = 9.5299 BTC [-] {2}

13:43:48 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_lander

13:44:06 ascii_lander: good morning mircea_popescu!

13:44:40 mircea_popescu: hai!

13:44:59 *: ascii_lander preparing lander probe for earthfall

13:54:27 ascii_lander: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107093 << i'll be wandering around town until 1900 or so (blast-off at 2215)

13:54:27 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 08:05:42; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell ascii_lander don't wait up for me tomorrow

13:54:59 ascii_lander: will check #b-a a few times b/w now and then

13:55:30 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: at any rate, will need your help to pass sack of pesos to mircea_popescu

13:56:05 ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: if we don't run across each other today, i might have it sent to your room

13:56:27 mircea_popescu: ascii_lander ima go for a salmon sandwich say 1ish.

13:56:37 ascii_lander: aha!

13:56:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00032645 = 7.0513 BTC [-]

13:56:43 ascii_lander: same spot?

13:56:51 ascii_lander: or meet at $hotel

13:59:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00032647 = 4.7338 BTC [+] {2}

13:59:44 mircea_popescu: same spot.

13:59:58 ascii_lander: works

14:02:34 ascii_lander: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107172 << as per mircea_popescu's old article where 'this rifle is so spiffy, i'ma go fishing with it'

14:02:34 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 12:09:29; mircea_popescu: i don't understand how beautyon wants this gpg forum thing to work

14:02:45 mircea_popescu: lol

14:17:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00033222 = 9.5347 BTC [+] {2}

14:34:37 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

14:35:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16858 @ 0.00032752 = 5.5213 BTC [-] {2}

14:43:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00031553 = 8.4247 BTC [-]

14:49:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6042 @ 0.00031553 = 1.9064 BTC [-]

14:54:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00032404 = 6.092 BTC [+]

14:54:41 ben_vulpes: http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201503/2015031201-the-sad-state-of-sysadmin-in-the-age-of-containers.html << lotsa yup

14:54:42 assbot: The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers ... ( http://bit.ly/1HUSzAE )

14:55:33 ben_vulpes: davout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL5D84D432BD104069&v=TFdfdLCZjT8

14:55:34 assbot: Libertango - Astor Piazzolla - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HUSIUI )

14:56:36 davout: ben_vulpes: ¡che boludo!

14:56:39 davout: gracias

14:57:05 davout: imma make my own version

14:58:36 ben_vulpes: eyy chetty, still game for ceviche?

15:02:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42252 @ 0.00031273 = 13.2135 BTC [-] {2}

15:05:20 lobbes: !up ascii_lander

15:05:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14675 @ 0.00033705 = 4.9462 BTC [+] {2}

15:33:06 mats: http://vortessence.org

15:33:07 assbot: Vortessence ... ( http://bit.ly/1GiZDrG )

15:37:23 mod6: !up assbot

15:37:25 mod6: bah

15:37:29 mod6: !up ascii_lander

15:38:00 ascii_lander: mats: looka quite like the ubiquitous 'volatility'

15:38:09 ascii_lander: mebbe with spiffier gui

15:38:17 ascii_lander: (why need the gui, don't ask me...)

15:38:49 mats: is almost exactly volatility

15:39:30 mats: uses Django and bootstrap!

15:42:13 ben_vulpes: how did they get django into a memory forensics tool?

15:42:14 ben_vulpes: o.O

15:42:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00031887 = 4.241 BTC [-]

15:42:35 *: ascii_lander spews chunder

15:43:20 ascii_lander: 'Django, have you always been alone? Django! Django, have you never loved again?' (™) (R)

15:44:49 *: ascii_lander off for some lulz with mircea_popescu

15:46:44 *: ben_vulpes will join

15:47:25 davout: obligatory django https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpmOTGungnA

15:47:26 assbot: Minor Swing - Django Reinhardt & Stéphane Grappelli - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Piyd6w )

15:47:50 davout: from the time guitar heroes were actually guitar heroes

15:52:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22250 @ 0.00031709 = 7.0553 BTC [-] {3}

15:56:18 mats: http://www.gsma.com/newsroom/wp-content/uploads/WWG-04-v1-0.pdf GSMA's guide on encrypted traffic

15:56:19 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiBkLI )

16:04:41 Pierre_Rochard: vessenes fundation burned to the ground: http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html

16:04:43 assbot: GavinTech: Joining the MIT Media Lab Digital Currency Initiative ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiDJWV )

16:04:58 Pierre_Rochard: Next on the chopping block: MIT

16:05:00 mats: http://www.zawya.com/mobile/default.cfm/actstory/sidZAWYA20150326055449

16:05:01 assbot: Jordan seeks further cooperation with Russia in nuclear field ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiDOK1 )

16:06:31 mod6: Pierre_Rochard: ah!

16:07:23 lobbes: <davout> from the time guitar heroes were actually guitar heroes << all you need these days is to know three chords and have a pretty face.

16:07:26 lobbes: Hell, it is like a sin to have a good guitar instrumental these days. And I could never get into 'metal'; too much speed, not enough soul

16:08:12 davout: lobbes: too many pedals

16:08:50 davout: funnily enough, "pédale" in french is a derogatory word for a man who likes to receive butseks

16:09:01 lobbes: aha

16:10:11 Pierre_Rochard: from their forums: “As of 4/15/15 total cash less current liabilities was ~$75K.”

16:11:05 davout: Pierre_Rochard: in a few months it'll be "current liabilities less total cash"

16:12:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8017 @ 0.00032432 = 2.6001 BTC [+]

16:13:51 Pierre_Rochard: davout: perhaps bruce fenton will find a wealthy sheikh to revive this particular abomination. They have wasted their oil wealth in worse ways

16:16:08 Pierre_Rochard: > is MIT, a center of tech innovation

16:16:25 Pierre_Rochard: > is media lab, focused on intersection of tech, design, art etc

16:16:35 Pierre_Rochard: > presents “About” in a series of pdf documents http://www.media.mit.edu/about/about-the-lab

16:16:36 assbot: About the Lab | MIT Media Lab ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiGTKc )

16:16:48 Pierre_Rochard: can’t make this stuff up

16:42:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00032432 = 3.9729 BTC [+]

16:53:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00032647 = 4.5706 BTC [+] {2}

17:05:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00033859 = 10.1577 BTC [+]

17:06:45 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 750 @ 0.00451775 = 3.3883 BTC [-] {2}

17:08:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.0003194 = 5.4138 BTC [-]

17:18:47 funkenstein_: from comments to gavintech announcement: "I'm very happy that you found a good place to land" <-- like he's a helpless orphan

17:19:03 funkenstein_: "that's great you found somebody to tell you what to do".. i think MP's comments are more respectful of gavin

17:20:38 mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> vessenes fundation burned to the ground: http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html << merely usg being forced to assume its minions.

17:20:39 assbot: GavinTech: Joining the MIT Media Lab Digital Currency Initiative ... ( http://bit.ly/1yT2R2K )

17:26:57 mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/CQ5qgvu << marginally lulzy stuff

17:26:58 assbot: Oh Gawker Media. You so silly. - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1HVoelq )

17:28:53 jurov: http://insidebitcoins.com/news/not-so-decentralized-ripple-freezes-1m-in-user-funds/31862 "it's a feature!!!"

17:28:55 assbot: “Not-So-Decentralized” Ripple Freezes $1m in User Funds | Inside Bitcoins | Bitcoin news | Price | Bitcoin Conferences ... ( http://bit.ly/1HVoAIW )

17:32:34 mats: "MIT is no longer the hallowed Library of Alexandria that shared the Lisp Machine and SICP with the world. Today, its made up of showmen and fools like Gavin, who endeavor to destroy software they don't understand, on behalf of a handler. Your relevance fades, and in a decade your cohorts will disavow any knowledge of you. Enjoy your faux relevancy as long

17:32:34 mats: as it lasts."

17:32:53 mats: looks like someone has been reading the logs...

17:34:13 mircea_popescu: lmao

17:34:32 mircea_popescu: on both counts!

17:46:13 ben_vulpes: high grade lulzatronium

17:47:01 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_lander

17:48:04 ascii_lander: l0l as if it wasn't clear that gavin will not starve or be reduced to honest work

17:48:39 ascii_lander: he laughs 'all the way to the bank'

17:52:12 ascii_lander: moiety - starved, moat monster - never.

17:58:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 985 @ 0.0020109 = 1.9807 BTC [+] {22}

18:07:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7082 @ 0.00032697 = 2.3156 BTC [+]

18:08:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00032797 = 6.4118 BTC [+] {2}

18:24:35 funkenstein_: anybody catch a look at the LMC from buenos aires?

18:25:00 funkenstein_: by the way while you were meeting there I caught two back to back Clinton shows

18:25:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20153 @ 0.00032509 = 6.5515 BTC [-]

18:26:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10547 @ 0.00032509 = 3.4287 BTC [-]

18:28:05 mircea_popescu: lmc ?

18:28:23 funkenstein_: magellanic cloud

18:29:59 funkenstein_: much better viewing without the light pollution of course but one takes what one can get

18:44:47 mircea_popescu: oic

18:50:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00032134 = 2.153 BTC [-]

19:00:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.0003194 = 3.4655 BTC [-]

19:02:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00032134 = 7.3908 BTC [+]

19:12:26 mike_c: "I’m offering MIT as a neutral academic home for some of the conversations and the technical coordination"

19:12:35 mike_c: first best neutral home.

19:13:57 mircea_popescu: :D

19:14:20 mircea_popescu: anwyay, yeah, people were derping about hoiw forcing usg to assume its assets is "bad" and the foundation pretense was somehow "better"

19:14:22 mircea_popescu: it never stuck.

19:14:52 mircea_popescu: anyway, b-a vs mit is a lot better than b-a vs some scammer's fake "foundation". we're going up in the world.

19:15:50 mircea_popescu: (i dun imagine anyone seriously deluded themselves into the belief that mit's involvement is going to disuade anyone one ; i do imagine mit thought itself large enough to absorb the shock and not end up like mtgox as a result - which is just as silly, but not necessarily visible from boston)

19:17:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21087 @ 0.00032541 = 6.8619 BTC [+] {3}

19:23:12 funkenstein_: <mircea_popescu> and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key <KEYID> and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key <KEYID> where keyid you just copy from the line above. <-- what about those three letters showing up here?

19:23:30 mircea_popescu: which ?

19:23:33 funkenstein_: mit

19:23:55 mircea_popescu: well... http://fraudsters.com/2015/pgp-keyserver/

19:23:56 assbot: Page not found on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjwEFm )

19:25:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00033874 = 4.9625 BTC [+]

19:25:32 funkenstein_: ok then, i am going to take a closer look

19:26:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00033918 = 3.4596 BTC [+]

19:26:58 funkenstein_: i'll take notes

19:27:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21169 @ 0.00033918 = 7.1801 BTC [+]

19:27:05 funkenstein_: in other news today

19:27:06 funkenstein_: http://blog.kraken.com/post/116672768472/file-your-mtgox-creditor-claim-with-kraken-and

19:27:07 assbot: Kraken Bitcoin Exchange — File your MtGox Creditor Claim with Kraken and... ... ( http://bit.ly/1GjGRAo )

19:32:27 BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/uploads/2015/4/22/rtx19ups.jpg.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge.jpg

19:32:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjyJkG )

19:34:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00033918 = 2.2895 BTC [+]

19:47:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43676 @ 0.00032792 = 14.3222 BTC [-] {3}

19:48:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66524 @ 0.00031927 = 21.2391 BTC [-]

20:08:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00031174 = 9.7886 BTC [-] {3}

20:12:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.0003112 = 2.1317 BTC [-]

20:21:52 jurov: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/22/wi-fi-hack-ios-iphone-ipad-apple

20:21:52 assbot: Wi-Fi hack creates 'no iOS zone' that cripples iPhones and iPads | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Del6dQ )

20:22:16 jurov: android can be battery drained by the same way, but at least i was able to turn wifi off

20:28:28 mircea_popescu: this bs where you can't turn wifi off...

20:37:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26049 @ 0.0003112 = 8.1064 BTC [-]

20:42:18 lobbes: one more reason to never touch an iTurd

20:44:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33425 @ 0.00031276 = 10.454 BTC [+]

20:46:13 *: lobbes owns an android, but rarely downloads any apps. Usually leaves wi-fi 'off' unless absolutely necessary

21:02:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00033008 = 5.8919 BTC [+] {2}

21:04:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00033918 = 6.9362 BTC [+]

21:07:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.0003318 = 8.0959 BTC [-]

21:13:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33936 @ 0.0003127 = 10.6118 BTC [-]

21:20:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.0003185 = 4.666 BTC [+]

21:27:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0003185 = 3.1213 BTC [+]

21:32:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31195 @ 0.00030981 = 9.6645 BTC [-] {2}

21:39:24 mircea_popescu: "Nobody seems to know how to build Hadoop from scratch. It's an incredible mess of dependencies, version requirements and build tools."

21:39:33 mircea_popescu: maybe this is what asciilifeform has to do in hell. build all the shit.

21:42:28 mircea_popescu: Back then, years ago, Linux distributions were trying to provide you with a safe operating system. With signed packages, built from a web of trust. Some even work on reproducible builds.

21:42:28 mircea_popescu: But then, everything got Windows-ized. "Apps" were the rage, which you download and run, without being concerned about security, or the ability to upgrade the application to the next version. Because "you only live once".

21:42:58 mircea_popescu: or, in the words of tiffany, "Who cares if the security let u do this it doesn't mean u should have done it"

21:43:05 mircea_popescu: women (and children) in tech.

21:47:39 mircea_popescu: in other news... privilege http://33.media.tumblr.com/b1e1634e7529aab4aceba8767fe8d157/tumblr_nmqjw95Chn1t0np38o1_500.gif

21:47:40 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvyP4V )

21:52:05 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107291 << rip moiety

21:52:05 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 17:52:12; ascii_lander: moiety - starved, moat monster - never.

21:53:02 ben_vulpes: !up ascii_lander

21:53:13 mircea_popescu: it still seems overdramatic to me. chick just didn't wanna bitcoin.

21:53:36 mircea_popescu: also in the news : joggers live for 6 years longer than non joggers

21:53:46 mircea_popescu: over the course of their lives, joggers spend about 6 years jogging

21:55:06 davout: more from nice-lipsync land http://i.imgur.com/iH7Ti0a.gif

21:55:07 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvzB1T )

22:00:16 lobbes: I'm five years late, but I just read these. I wish an alf-machine existed: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284

22:00:18 assbot: Loper OS » Seven Laws of Sane Personal Computing ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvAhnP )

22:00:29 lobbes: I find #7 especially intriguing

22:01:11 ascii_lander: lobbes: perhaps -you- can build it

22:01:20 *: ascii_lander preparing for blast-off back to earth

22:01:44 lobbes: perhaps -you- can build it << K. I'll cya in 50 years

22:05:13 *: trinque in ignorance reminds that once computers were built in garages

22:05:38 ascii_lander: trinque: if not i, then next soldier.

22:05:50 mircea_popescu: lobbes this is what happened to say, artifexd

22:06:10 mircea_popescu: and as far as the retarded look goes, http://36.media.tumblr.com/ae9008632a0a1e630226461f386eeabc/tumblr_neoysg91fJ1s9yfq0o1_500.jpg

22:06:11 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvB34d )

22:07:31 mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/e38cdfdbea363b37c8f7619380d125e0/tumblr_nn4khahGu81qjb4auo1_500.jpg << lulz

22:07:31 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvBdc1 )

22:07:41 ascii_lander: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107350 << must already be in hell

22:07:41 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 21:39:33; mircea_popescu: maybe this is what asciilifeform has to do in hell. build all the shit.

22:08:06 artifexd: Security is hard, m'kay...

22:08:13 mircea_popescu: artifexd no contest.

22:08:22 mircea_popescu: how goes anyways ?

22:09:30 artifexd: I'm reviewing golang's crypto code. I have about 5 commits left.

22:10:34 ben_vulpes: does it wrap openssl?

22:10:54 artifexd: I have also been fleshing out internal organization.

22:11:12 mircea_popescu: artifexd you making all this audit process public somewhere ?

22:11:24 artifexd: Bottom line, I expect to have something to share for testing in 4 weeks.

22:12:16 artifexd: I have my own fork of the code that has signed commits.

22:12:31 artifexd: Did you mean something else?

22:12:47 artifexd: ben_vulpes: no it does not

22:13:19 mircea_popescu: artifexd im not sure. mostly poking at it.

22:13:39 artifexd: I would prefer not to use the word "audit" as that implies I am qualified to do so.

22:13:55 ben_vulpes: artifexd: well that sets it apart from all of the other crypto libs ascii_lander was going on about over coffee today

22:14:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00031348 = 3.3542 BTC [+]

22:15:25 mircea_popescu: artifexd defaudit ?

22:15:26 artifexd: I have not been keeping up with logs.

22:16:41 artifexd: I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.

22:17:42 mircea_popescu: aite.

22:19:21 mircea_popescu: apparently, paris hilton's dog died.

22:19:57 mircea_popescu: i'm putting that in here since we're doing all sorts of trivia shit like "who's paying usgavin to shit in bitcoin this week" and so on.

22:20:41 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

22:20:42 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 234.63, Best ask: 234.64, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 234.63, 24 hour volume: 23879.93278316, 24 hour low: 232.0, 24 hour high: 238.99, 24 hour vwap: None

22:21:59 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the fact that the imbeciles commenting on that thing stupid shite like "you make a poor assumption that the NSA or whoever couldn't also add backdoors and other such snoop to the source code base, so when you compile it yourself, you are compiling the NSA right in. Yes it would be more difficult, because the maintainers should be watching, but if they've been forced into it, would you even know?" doesn't eve

22:21:59 mircea_popescu: n grate as much as the dude using disqus.

22:22:23 mircea_popescu: fucking memory hole, "here guise, let me curl | sudo bash some stuff about how curl | sudo bash is bad mmkay"

22:23:13 ben_vulpes: mhm.

22:24:01 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: valkyrie came riding

22:24:15 ben_vulpes: slaughtered derps

22:24:20 mircea_popescu: lol srsly ?

22:24:39 ben_vulpes: mhm!

22:24:40 mircea_popescu: i love this show...

22:24:53 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMHgc2HzQU

22:24:54 assbot: Invader Zim - Gir - I love this show - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvDuE5 )

22:25:13 ben_vulpes: 'twas a very good show

22:25:37 ben_vulpes: even deflustered stan before packing him into cab

22:25:52 mircea_popescu: lol

22:28:30 mircea_popescu: and i didn't even give her a rifle this time

22:28:35 mircea_popescu: you should see *that* shit.

22:47:32 BingoBoingo: !b 5

22:47:32 assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2QENGHW.txt )

22:51:51 lobbes: heh, coinreport trying to steal my scoop. Qntra ahead of game still: https://coinreport.net/activemining-corporation-ordered-to-pay-state-of-missouri/

22:51:53 assbot: CoinReport ActiveMining Corporation ordered to pay state of Missouri - CoinReport ... ( http://bit.ly/1JvH29p )

22:53:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34200 @ 0.00031482 = 10.7668 BTC [+] {2}

22:54:41 mircea_popescu: lobbes no link eh ? (im too lazy to click)

22:55:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00031397 = 1.7268 BTC [-]

22:56:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00030893 = 8.0322 BTC [-]

22:59:45 lobbes: to the qntra version? tis here: http://qntra.net/2015/03/missouri-secretary-of-state-orders-slaughter-to-pay-civil-penalties/

22:59:45 assbot: Missouri Secretary of State Orders Slaughter to Pay Civil Penalties | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1d1S9wN )

23:02:18 mircea_popescu: i meant in the coinreport thing

23:02:50 lobbes: to the order? that be here: http://www.sos.mo.gov/securities/orders/AP-14-09b.pdf

23:03:33 mircea_popescu: to qntra :D

23:03:56 lobbes: ahhh now I see

23:04:20 lobbes: naw I don't think they linked to qntra directly, just funny that they did the same scoop a month after us

23:05:47 BingoBoingo: http://tktk.gawker.com/ben-smith-and-jonah-peretti-the-gawker-interview-1699230890/+trotter << Cripple fight

23:05:48 assbot: Ben Smith and Jonah Peretti: The Gawker Interview ... ( http://bit.ly/1d1Ta89 )

23:06:35 mircea_popescu: jonah got tits at least ?

23:07:38 BingoBoingo: Nah, but you get lines like "When we were sending around a draft of the standards document, what I said to everybody was, hey, read this really closely, because what you do when you publish standards, is that you make Gawker your public editor. Sure, we?ll be looking for [violations of standards internally]?[but] you?ve got all of Twitter, and you?ve got Gawker. So I have really little to complain about, in some sense. Do

23:07:39 BingoBoingo: you want to talk about this post that you emailed about? "

23:08:22 BingoBoingo: Or from Jonah: "We should give you a call-in number, just because you?ve sort of become our public editor, our ombudsman or something, our ombudsman at BuzzFeed."

23:08:34 mircea_popescu: ugh.

23:08:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00030893 = 4.2014 BTC [-]

23:09:36 BingoBoingo: Gawker vs. TheCompanyThatPaysFaceSpaceToPromoteItsClickbait, I hope they both lose

23:10:44 mircea_popescu: welll... suppose they both win

23:10:53 mircea_popescu: win what ? a large bag of "you lose" ?

23:19:35 mircea_popescu: https://en.fiverr.com/ derps

23:32:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19327 @ 0.00031522 = 6.0923 BTC [+]

23:38:49 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_launchpad

23:38:59 ascii_launchpad: danke mircea_popescu

23:39:07 mircea_popescu: soo...

23:39:10 mircea_popescu: you come here often ?

23:39:17 ascii_launchpad: l0l never

23:39:33 mircea_popescu: lol

23:39:36 *: ascii_launchpad may or may not be zebrahitler

23:40:28 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/3fac4807ca5528d300aef1e091faba94/tumblr_ne22qsZETK1slq74qo1_1280.jpg

23:40:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1bwY10H )

23:40:34 *: ascii_launchpad was -of course- put by cabbie at the, ahm, wrong terminal, had to do a bit of gymnastics

23:41:00 ascii_launchpad: ^ mega-table

23:44:22 ascii_launchpad: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107403 << wai wut... which imbeciles, which thing ?

23:44:22 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 22:21:59; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the fact that the imbeciles commenting on that thing stupid shite like "you make a poor assumption that the NSA or whoever couldn't also add backdoors and other such snoop to the source code base, so when you compile it yourself, you are compiling the NSA right in. Yes it would be more difficult, because the maintainers should be watching, but if they've been forced into it, would you even

23:44:41 ascii_launchpad: has no one heard of reviewing binaries ?

23:44:53 mircea_popescu: http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201503/2015031201-the-sad-state-of-sysadmin-in-the-age-of-containers.html

23:44:53 assbot: The sad state of sysadmin in the age of containers ... ( http://bit.ly/1bwZ3tx )

23:44:59 ascii_launchpad: aha

23:45:23 ascii_launchpad: aahahahahahaha

23:45:25 ascii_launchpad: that thing..

23:46:09 ascii_launchpad: 'Consider for example Hadoop. Nobody seems to know how to build Hadoop from scratch.' << no one knows how to recreate a turd 'from scratch' either. though, there was this one 'art installation' fella who tried. had whole synthetic digestion apparatus, looked sorta like a small pharma pilot plant

23:46:21 ascii_launchpad: wish i still had the link.

23:47:21 ascii_launchpad: 'To build Apache Bigtop, you apparently first have to install puppet3. Let it download magic data from the internet. Then it tries to run sudo puppet to enable the NSA backdoors (for example, it will download and install an outdated precompiled JDK, because it considers you too stupid to install Java.) And then hope the gradle build doesn't throw a 200 line useless backtrace.' << when do we set the biodiesel boilers

23:47:26 ascii_launchpad: srsly

23:47:56 mircea_popescu: ascii_launchpad turd is mostly processed hemoglobin.

23:48:01 mircea_popescu: no way to make that without a circulatory system

23:48:15 ascii_launchpad: 'artist' was going for 'look&feel' compat

23:48:24 ascii_launchpad: rather than, e.g., satisfying a dung beetle

23:48:28 mircea_popescu: take a simpler thing : i wish to install varnish.

23:48:49 mircea_popescu: http://www.cpanelkb.net/how-to-install-varnish-cache/

23:48:51 assbot: How to install Varnish Cache - cPanel KnowledgeBase ... ( http://bit.ly/1bwZRhQ )

23:48:57 mircea_popescu: # cd /usr/local/src

23:48:58 mircea_popescu: # wget "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/itseasy21/w3tools-varnish/master/install.sh" -O /usr/local/src/varnish-install.sh

23:48:58 mircea_popescu: # chmod +x varnish-install.sh

23:48:58 mircea_popescu: # ./varnish-install.sh

23:48:59 mircea_popescu: srsly ?

23:49:08 mircea_popescu: urmomseasy123.

23:49:30 mircea_popescu: meanwhile irl

23:49:47 mircea_popescu: # yum install varnish

23:49:48 mircea_popescu: No package varnish available.

23:49:48 mircea_popescu: Error: Nothing to do

23:49:58 ascii_launchpad: lol dead link

23:50:06 mircea_popescu: o is it ?

23:50:10 mircea_popescu: i hadn't even checked.

23:50:17 mircea_popescu: because wtf, random github derp

23:50:29 mircea_popescu: "Varnish Cache Proudly Presented by http://www.w3tool.blogspot.in/"

23:50:31 assbot: Page Not Found | W3 TOOLS - Making Web Easier..! ... ( http://bit.ly/1bx0c4g )

23:50:33 mircea_popescu: as if

23:50:40 ascii_launchpad: sp4m4tr0n!

23:50:58 ascii_launchpad: 'just werks' l0l

23:51:12 ascii_launchpad: until it doesn't and you're stranded on pluto and now what.

23:51:49 mircea_popescu: thing is, varnish is a kickass web cache.

23:51:54 trinque: friend made a github scraper to find perpetrators of this: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/infoforcefeed/curl2sudo/master/offenders.json

23:51:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1bx0t7n )

23:52:13 mircea_popescu: takes fraudsters from burning 10-15 gb / day to about 200 / month.

23:52:41 mircea_popescu: trinque gotta be more than that.

23:52:45 ascii_launchpad: cache is useful, sure

23:52:47 trinque: I don't think that was a complete run

23:52:54 mircea_popescu: ascii_launchpad this is a particularly good one.

23:53:03 trinque: he's got a twitter somewhere that farts 'em out

23:53:05 trinque: couldn't find it

23:53:13 *: ascii_launchpad knows of 'varnish'

23:53:21 mircea_popescu: orly ? so hoiw do you install it ?

23:53:29 mircea_popescu: "rpm -Uvh http://repo.varnish-cache.org/redhat/varnish-3.0/el5/noarch/varnish-release-3.0-1.noarch.rpm" ?

23:53:29 assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1bx0S9I )

23:53:40 *: ascii_launchpad has not the faintest idea how to install it today

23:53:56 mircea_popescu: the web is so fulla win.

23:53:58 *: ascii_launchpad left this behind in a galaxy far away, long ago.

23:54:12 trinque: gentoo's ebuild doesn't look too heinous

23:54:59 mircea_popescu: centos 6.6

23:56:37 ascii_launchpad: 'Feels like downloading Windows shareware in the 90s to me.' << l0l aha. pretty much everything but a very finely cultivated gentoo or bsd box feels like ^

23:57:01 mircea_popescu: people who finely cultivate women do not have the time to spend on cultivating boxes.

23:57:39 ascii_launchpad: there is to be a solution to this

23:57:53 ascii_launchpad: (or not. i didn't make this universe, i just werk here)

23:58:25 trinque: solution's paying someone for a goddamn OS imo

23:58:32 mircea_popescu: You can start that process by grabbing the repository:

23:58:32 mircea_popescu: sudo curl http://repo.varnish-cache.org/debian/GPG-key.txt | sudo apt-key add -

23:58:32 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1bx21yf )

23:58:34 trinque: this is what free looks like

23:58:37 ascii_launchpad: trinque: check your sofa cushions

23:58:37 mircea_popescu: srsly ? apt-key add - ?

23:58:48 ascii_launchpad: trinque: see a spare $maxint or two, perhaps

23:58:57 trinque: ascii_launchpad: lol, no $maxint in there boss

23:59:05 ascii_launchpad: it was worth a try.