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00:03:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]

00:03:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.05850606 = 0.234 BTC [-]

00:06:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03804682 = 0.5707 BTC [-] {4}

00:09:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36550 @ 0.00093222 = 34.0726 BTC [-] {2}

00:11:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.1374 BTC [-]

00:20:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 556 @ 0.095 = 52.82 BTC [+]

00:21:09 thestringpuller: moiety: and am i the only nonmarried person left on the planet << bitcoinpete is right, I am not married, but sometimes it sure feels like it ~_~

00:21:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.03949969 = 1.185 BTC [+] {2}

00:21:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.095 = 2.945 BTC [+]

00:21:35 bitcoinpete: thestringpuller: living together?

00:21:36 bitcoinpete: http://international.sueddeutsche.de/post/85917094540/germany-plans-to-ban-tech-companies-that-play-ball-with

00:21:36 assbot: Germany Plans To Ban Tech Companies That Play Ball With NSA

00:24:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 97 @ 0.00444228 = 0.4309 BTC [+] {2}

00:26:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.02290455 = 0.3894 BTC [+] {6}

00:28:25 bitcoinpete: ;;later tell BingoBoingo quite enjoyed the medium article on crap computing, other than the "we the people" rahrah finish. good find

00:28:25 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:29:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0325 = 0.1625 BTC [-]

00:32:09 moiety: http://www.kctv5.com/story/25568078/bitcoin-used-to-buy-500000-olathe-home BigFatLiar Josh bought a house

00:32:10 assbot: Bitcoin used to buy $500,000 Kansas home - KCTV5

00:33:18 thestringpuller: lol https://www.mywot.com/

00:33:18 assbot: Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust)

00:33:40 thestringpuller: bitcoinpete: not even. and it still feels like we're married.

00:33:51 thestringpuller: damn I would lose my mind if we lived together

00:33:53 thestringpuller: ~_~

00:34:24 bitcoinpete: some things would be easier, some less

00:35:21 thestringpuller: yea plenty of "playtime" i presume but i barely have any time as it is

00:35:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11433 @ 0.00093234 = 10.6594 BTC [+]

00:36:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00093463 = 21.6834 BTC [+]

00:38:33 moiety: lol "The house will be delivered in June! mean September, mean next February."

00:38:57 bitcoinpete: moiety: this is the sex weeks pad?

00:39:19 moiety: no thats the ending line on the josh fromg bfl house buying article

00:39:40 moiety: still waiting to hear about the sex weeks flat but its only been a day i guess

00:40:26 moiety: the guy told me he was busy doing things til thursday (today now)

00:42:43 moiety: everything should be easier if you live with the right person

00:43:58 bitcoinpete: moiety: lol wow, just read that zerlan thing. dood is crazy to spend $500k on a house just so he can make a headline on a weasly local rag.

00:44:53 bitcoinpete: if he has no bezzlebucks, he could at least find a landlord to rent from

00:44:56 bitcoinpete: or a payment plan

00:45:26 bitcoinpete: 1,000 btc house is gonna be the next 10,000 btc pizza

00:45:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 170 @ 0.03949969 = 6.7149 BTC [+]

00:45:54 moiety: i reckon the couple should read up on his and squat, like just refuse to move out for ages and keep giving him extended dates for when they will get out

00:45:59 moiety: him* not his

00:46:50 moiety: its actually the anniversary of the btc pizza thing today

00:47:15 thestringpuller: moiety: sex weeks?

00:47:17 thestringpuller: lol

00:47:33 moiety: i typod six lol

00:47:41 thestringpuller: lolololol

00:47:54 thestringpuller: I know what moiety is thinking about ;)

00:49:15 moiety: well it does come up often in this channel

00:49:34 bitcoinpete: moiety: anniversary? hey, waddya know

00:49:57 bitcoinpete: at least zohan can keep enjoying his house

00:50:12 bitcoinpete: slightly less shocking than the pizza

00:50:13 thestringpuller: HAH

00:51:26 moiety: o no i lie to you, it was the 18th https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=137.0

00:51:27 assbot: Pizza for bitcoins?

00:51:36 bitcoinpete: well that's all for me this eve. have funz

00:51:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+]

01:04:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 180 @ 0.095 = 17.1 BTC [+]

01:13:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14720 @ 0.00093737 = 13.7981 BTC [+] {2}

01:14:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32080 @ 0.00093829 = 30.1003 BTC [+] {2}

01:37:17 thestringpuller: Apocalyptic: what happened to OTC?

01:37:25 thestringpuller: It's worse than 4chan.

01:37:30 Apocalyptic: heh

01:37:48 thestringpuller: Like I literally feel physically ill trying to traverse that channel...

01:38:32 Apocalyptic: it's not that bad usually

01:40:04 thestringpuller: everyone seems frightened as shit to trade so the market seems to have dried up...

01:40:41 Apocalyptic: "so the market seems to have dried up..." that's true

01:41:10 benkay: <bitcoinpete> benkay ain't married. yet // hue

01:41:13 Apocalyptic: tough generally I feel like it's not that people are frightened

01:41:22 thestringpuller: benkay: you said you had a wife

01:41:33 Apocalyptic: it's just that they have realized that trading 500 usd back and forth isn't really worth it

01:41:33 thestringpuller: Man i used to buy everything otc

01:41:37 thestringpuller: I"ve bought steam games

01:41:46 Apocalyptic: that's still going today

01:41:47 thestringpuller: i bought an r-pi

01:42:06 thestringpuller: guess i gotta find some dark pools

01:42:23 Apocalyptic: the time atm doesn't help either

01:42:24 thestringpuller: I hate linking checking accounts to the exchanges. Kind of annoying.

01:42:39 thestringpuller: yea I guess if I fish long enough one will eventually bite

01:42:52 Apocalyptic: if you try in the end of the afternoon PST you'll get a lot more response imo

01:43:07 thestringpuller: thanks for the help Apocalyptic; it's much appreciated

01:43:17 danielpbarron: there are trades in -otc you just have to find them amidst the idiocy

01:43:29 thestringpuller: idiocy is an understatement

01:43:31 danielpbarron: trying to convince them to do cash in the mail instead of paypal

01:43:39 danielpbarron: i've had some luck

01:43:50 thestringpuller: Easy is just cash deposit into a bank account

01:43:57 danielpbarron: i don't like banks

01:44:00 thestringpuller: or a moneygram transfer

01:44:19 danielpbarron: i think cash in the mail is easier

01:44:28 danielpbarron: it's like selling any other product

01:44:33 danielpbarron: pack it up, ship it out

01:44:36 thestringpuller: Damn. Once upon a time, Azelphur did escrow for me.

01:44:40 thestringpuller: It was such a neat experience

01:44:46 Apocalyptic: danielpbarron, inbefore the mail doesn't arrive

01:44:48 thestringpuller: Sent him coins.

01:44:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25737 @ 0.00093844 = 24.1526 BTC [+]

01:45:01 thestringpuller: Then waited on product from the other party

01:45:55 thestringpuller: I wish I could just find a supplier since most of my income stream is still in fiat unfortunately :(

01:46:50 danielpbarron: yeah i want to make connections with miners

01:48:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43783 @ 0.00093355 = 40.8736 BTC [-] {5}

01:50:52 thestringpuller: !ticker M F.MPIF

01:50:53 assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021551 / 0.00021725 / 0.00021726 (97610 shares, 21.21 BTC), 30D: 0.000215 / 0.00021527 / 0.00021726 (1151600 shares, 247.91 BTC)

01:51:08 thestringpuller: !last M F.MPIF

01:51:08 assbot: Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]

01:52:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22136 @ 0.00092841 = 20.5513 BTC [-] {2}

01:54:59 assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 880 @ 0.00021726 = 0.1912 BTC [+]

01:57:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14376 @ 0.00092745 = 13.333 BTC [-] {3}

02:01:37 Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269191.msg6840019#msg6840019

02:01:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] Crypto Financial (CFIG) Official Thread

02:01:59 Duffer1: didn't we have this discussion in here? exchange in a box

02:04:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.095 = 1.995 BTC [+]

02:05:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.03949979 = 0.316 BTC [+]

02:07:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 171 @ 0.00447969 = 0.766 BTC [+] {3}

02:08:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.00456859 = 0.2147 BTC [+] {3}

02:13:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00092662 = 6.7643 BTC [-] {2}

02:21:20 decimation: LoL that Moldbug hit piece. "Why bother with mass appeal, when you?re rebuilding the ancien regime?"

02:22:16 decimation: Well duh. "As I soldiered through the Moldbug canon, my reactions numbed. Here he is expressing sympathy for poor, persecuted Senator Joe McCarthy. Big surprise. Here he claims ?America is a communist country.? Sure, whatever."

02:22:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15240 @ 0.00092654 = 14.1205 BTC [-]

02:23:01 decimation: well with the quality of those arguments, the author is well on the way to becoming the anti-Moldbug

02:24:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00092585 = 1.8517 BTC [-]

02:26:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

02:52:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.095 = 1.805 BTC [+]

03:18:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5959 @ 0.00092506 = 5.5124 BTC [-]

03:31:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00092506 = 22.2939 BTC [-]

03:37:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33451 @ 0.00092568 = 30.9649 BTC [+] {2}

03:38:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26372 @ 0.00092872 = 24.4922 BTC [+] {2}

03:46:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]

03:46:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [-]

03:47:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25484 @ 0.00092877 = 23.6688 BTC [+] {2}

03:50:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.0383001 = 0.1149 BTC [-]

04:06:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [+]

04:06:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41580 @ 0.00092641 = 38.5201 BTC [-]

04:07:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00092846 = 20.7047 BTC [+]

04:15:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26227 @ 0.00092583 = 24.2817 BTC [-] {4}

04:16:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0221001 = 0.221 BTC [-]

04:17:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02202062 = 0.6166 BTC [-] {7}

04:18:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.02200007 = 0.308 BTC [-] {2}

04:27:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00456472 = 0.4565 BTC [-] {2}

04:28:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26121 @ 0.00093032 = 24.3009 BTC [+]

04:36:49 mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> moiety: lol wow, just read that zerlan thing. dood is crazy to spend $500k on a house just so he can make a headline on a weasly local rag. << i think you misunderstand how josh works. he doesn't actually DO the things he claims to have done. he merely claims them.

04:38:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20615 @ 0.00093219 = 19.2171 BTC [+] {3}

04:38:59 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

04:39:00 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 494.29, Best ask: 494.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.41000, Last trade: 494.7, 24 hour volume: 5816.91401138, 24 hour low: 490.3, 24 hour high: 498.97, 24 hour vwap: 494.997143609

04:39:40 mircea_popescu: <Apocalyptic> it's just that they have realized that trading 500 usd back and forth isn't really worth it << that'll be the day

04:41:22 mircea_popescu: decimation> well with the quality of those arguments, the author is well on the way to becoming the anti-Moldbug << something tells me the author spent his youth clicking through cat pictures while someone on the phone was tryhing to educate them.

04:47:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.095 = 1.52 BTC [+]

04:49:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11750 @ 0.00093257 = 10.9577 BTC [+]

05:00:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30147 @ 0.00093326 = 28.135 BTC [+] {2}

05:04:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 41 @ 0.48746307 = 19.986 BTC [+] {7}

05:09:29 danielpbarron: !up Naranja

05:10:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4909999 = 0.982 BTC [+]

05:11:40 danielpbarron: Naranja was asking in -otc if there is still any options trading

05:12:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00449 = 0.2021 BTC [-]

05:13:30 Apocalyptic: !up Dizzle

05:19:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.4909999 = 3.928 BTC [+]

05:21:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20896 @ 0.00093945 = 19.6307 BTC [+]

05:28:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.49833296 = 2.99 BTC [+] {3}

05:29:40 []bot: Bet placed: 50 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day" http://bitbet.us/bet/677/ Odds: 88(Y):12(N) by coin, 82(Y):18(N) by weight. Total bet: 102.47158113 BTC. Current weight: 13,208.

05:29:40 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day :: 90.09 B (88%) on Yes, 12.38 B (12%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 1 day| weight: 13`208 (100`000 to 1)

05:30:21 mircea_popescu: !up Naranja

05:30:58 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla nao []bot and assbot are triggering each other

05:34:03 Apocalyptic: !up Dizzle

05:34:28 Dizzle: 'lo

05:38:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49096 @ 0.00093983 = 46.1419 BTC [+] {5}

05:55:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00455774 = 0.4558 BTC [+] {3}

05:57:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [+]

06:15:15 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 122 @ 0.00284566 = 0.3472 BTC [-]

06:21:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.498999 BTC [+]

06:29:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [+]

06:37:37 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 577 @ 0.00282443 = 1.6297 BTC [-] {2}

06:52:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.023 = 0.115 BTC [+]

06:53:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.4993221 = 8.9878 BTC [+] {5}

06:57:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00469387 = 2.3469 BTC [+] {12}

07:05:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03253439 = 0.1301 BTC [-] {2}

07:07:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00093653 = 24.3966 BTC [-]

07:09:07 mircea_popescu: !up adrrr

07:26:35 Naphex: mircea_popescu: http://www.radugeorgescu.com/2014/05/05/the-next-big-thing-bitcoin-101/

07:26:36 assbot: The next big thing Bitcoin 101 | Radu Georgescu

07:28:47 adrrr: pump?

07:29:18 Naphex: nah just romanians discovering bitcoin

07:29:47 Apocalyptic: I saw romanian pm met with Biden

07:31:02 adrrr: romanians? have u got a link to an article?

07:32:34 Apocalyptic: http://www.greenwichtime.com/news/world/article/Biden-Punish-Russia-if-it-meddles-in-Ukraine-5494122.php

07:32:34 assbot: Biden: Punish Russia if it meddles in Ukraine - GreenwichTime

07:34:32 adrrr: ty

07:35:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 214 @ 0.00078052 = 0.167 BTC [-] {4}

07:37:41 Apocalyptic: Naphex, doesn't look like that average clueless article about Bitcoin

07:37:59 Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, is this Georgescu someone notable in Romanian business ?

07:38:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 156 @ 0.0007801 = 0.1217 BTC [-]

07:39:24 Naphex: Apocalyptic: Romanian Entrepreneur

07:39:39 Apocalyptic: i got that from his site

07:39:43 Naphex: owned or still owns GeCad

07:39:48 Naphex: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeCAD_Software

07:39:48 assbot: GeCAD Software - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

07:39:50 Apocalyptic: however today everyone can call himself whatever he likes

07:39:58 Apocalyptic: ty

07:40:03 Naphex: including epayment which does most of the cc processing for online shops

07:40:06 Naphex: in romania

07:40:26 Naphex: which now got rebranded as http://www.payu.ro/

07:40:27 assbot: PayU | Integrator de plati online

07:45:39 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic yes, he is one of the precious few antrepreneurs that actually made their own money.

07:46:53 mircea_popescu: naphex he didn't even take too long. lol.

07:48:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03848689 = 0.5773 BTC [+] {4}

07:48:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00093653 = 0.5619 BTC [-]

07:49:09 mircea_popescu: anyway i guess ima leave him a comment.

07:49:22 Naphex: you should invite him over :)

07:49:23 Apocalyptic: gotta promote -assets

07:51:11 fluffypony: just shake dat -assets gurl

07:51:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.0386011 = 0.6562 BTC [+] {2}

07:52:42 mircea_popescu: Naphex so far i just welcomed him to 2012

07:52:53 mircea_popescu: ;;google fraudsters doua imagini cuvinte milioane lei

07:52:54 gribble: August 2012 pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2012/08; MPEx pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/category/mpex/; Ciuciu Bond pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2012/ciuciu-bond/

07:52:57 mircea_popescu: meh

07:53:08 mircea_popescu: it's there somewhere.

07:53:18 mircea_popescu: ;;topic

07:53:18 gribble: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com

07:53:34 mircea_popescu: btw kakobrekla an "Or call #" at the end can't hurt.

07:55:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.03800253 = 0.646 BTC [-] {3}

07:56:40 Naphex: i like romanian TV reports on Bitcoin :))

07:56:50 Naphex: just saw a TVR report that had an "Expert" on phone

07:57:02 Naphex: who just went on a talking spree on how 'cool' bitcoin is, until he got cut off

07:57:05 Naphex: :))

08:00:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00093734 = 10.4982 BTC [+]

08:01:47 mircea_popescu: lol

08:01:52 mircea_popescu: romanian tv experts.

08:05:12 jurov: ;;ticker

08:05:13 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 523.5, Best ask: 524.78, Bid-ask spread: 1.28000, Last trade: 524.78, 24 hour volume: 10936.77836281, 24 hour low: 491.31, 24 hour high: 524.9, 24 hour vwap: 503.526634492

08:05:23 Naphex: it is going ^

08:06:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0057001 = 0.171 BTC [-]

08:07:30 mircea_popescu: yup

08:07:55 mircea_popescu: inb4 whatever noob comes in to ask if it's due to whatever irrelevant press article wherein some experts nobody heard about derp.

08:08:20 Apocalyptic: ^

08:08:25 Naphex: intereset started growing a lot in the last 3 weeks

08:08:39 mircea_popescu: yes, it's going to move.

08:09:02 mircea_popescu: the 500 wall took even less than it should have.

08:09:23 Apocalyptic: there was a ~900 btc wall @510, that got pulled instantly

08:10:28 mircea_popescu: i guess if anyone asks ima just tell them it's going up because i finally wisened up and leaving timisoara.

08:12:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46400 @ 0.00093529 = 43.3975 BTC [-] {3}

08:13:11 Naphex: mircea_popescu: when are you departing?

08:13:28 mircea_popescu: at some point since the 20th

08:13:56 BingoBoingo_: mircea_popescu: It's going up, because people know you are traveling by boat

08:14:16 jurov: BingoBoingo_: how so?

08:14:17 mircea_popescu: it's a submarine helicopter

08:14:35 mircea_popescu: VTOL/VSINK bitchez

08:14:45 BingoBoingo_: jurov: He declared earlier he is traveling by battleship

08:15:04 BingoBoingo_: Or maybe he just bought the battleship

08:16:50 mircea_popescu: or maybe i had it made by slave labour!

08:18:03 BingoBoingo_: For something that large when would MPOE-PR have had the time to interact with the forum?

08:18:43 chetty: oh I thought it was becasue he was being extradited

08:19:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.4999985 = 2 BTC [+] {2}

08:20:02 BingoBoingo_: If the US couldn't even extradite Bobby Fischer in his lifetime, I dun see how they are extraditing mircea_popescu

08:21:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6894 @ 0.00093734 = 6.462 BTC [+]

08:21:20 chetty: dun matter about reality, matters what folks think

08:21:46 Apocalyptic: it's exactly the other way around

08:23:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4999999 = 1 BTC [+]

08:24:10 mircea_popescu: im being extradited to mongolia

08:24:20 mircea_popescu: apparently i made some ill advised off the cuff comments about horse meat.

08:25:57 BingoBoingo_: In other news Joe Biden is apparently a pedophile http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/05/joe-biden-gets-invited-to-prom-by-17-year-old-girl/

08:25:58 assbot: Joe Biden Gets Invited to Prom by 17-Year-Old Girl - ABC News

08:26:46 mircea_popescu: thatsounds more like a 17 yo is a gerontophile

08:27:31 BingoBoingo_: mircea_popescu: No, he turned down the date because he prefers the elementary school dance

08:28:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00093385 = 28.2957 BTC [-] {2}

08:31:43 mircea_popescu: !up roro_

08:32:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.4999999 = 4 BTC [+]

08:33:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+] {2}

08:35:27 jurov: !up davout

08:36:31 davout: ohai

08:38:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]

08:39:15 kakobrekla: hi

08:40:59 jurov: hello

08:44:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48011017 BTC [-]

08:45:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]

08:46:50 fluffypony: jurov: ola

08:46:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.095 = 0.57 BTC [+] {2}

08:47:15 fluffypony: kakobrekla: mircea_popescu wants you to adjust the topic, yo

08:47:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.03805229 = 0.3805 BTC [-] {4}

08:49:05 kakobrekla: isnt that a bit excessive

08:49:15 kakobrekla: or vinklevossy

08:49:28 fluffypony: but the veesee needs to see eet

08:54:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22894 @ 0.00093636 = 21.437 BTC [+]

09:02:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10306 @ 0.00093734 = 9.6602 BTC [+]

09:07:18 BingoBoingo_: ;;ticker --market all

09:07:24 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 515.0, vol: 12286.83754310 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 500.111, vol: 8348.34805 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 516.34, vol: 12146.0210006 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 517.32, vol: 47.41546771 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 505.945272, vol: 4760.78680000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 520.06956, vol: 21.86084581 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 508.8588, vol: 130.32233269 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

09:07:28 BingoBoingo_: ;;more

09:07:28 gribble: 510.980296165

09:10:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]

09:13:45 davout: has this ever been discussed here ? -> http://bitfreak.info/files/pp2p-ccmbc-rev1.pdf

09:18:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7870 @ 0.00093774 = 7.38 BTC [+]

09:24:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6284 @ 0.00093774 = 5.8928 BTC [+]

09:27:33 jurov: davout i don't remember

09:28:27 jurov: it seems to me that there people write papers and others make altcoins

09:28:34 jurov: rarely someone does both

09:29:12 davout: jurov: true

09:30:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5098121 BTC [+]

09:32:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.038 = 0.152 BTC [-] {3}

09:48:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.038 = 3.8 BTC [-]

09:59:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00093791 = 11.1611 BTC [+] {3}

10:15:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.02222231 = 0.2667 BTC [-] {3}

10:16:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.02200356 = 0.308 BTC [-] {5}

10:34:41 moiety: morning

10:36:03 jurov: hi moiety

10:36:16 fluffypony: morning, moiety

10:37:18 moiety: how goes today?

10:37:32 moiety: fluffypony: i'm sad, the sun has gone :[

10:38:23 fluffypony: :( :(

10:38:51 *: jurov looks out of the window .. moiety should move here

10:39:50 jurov: central/eastern eu is not for everyone, tho

10:40:12 jurov: later!

10:44:35 moiety: see you later jurov :]

10:49:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00093862 = 3.7075 BTC [+]

10:51:47 moiety: <mircea_popescu> [...] i think you misunderstand how josh works. he doesn't actually DO the things he claims to have done. he merely claims them. << lol true, we mustn't believe this until we see 6 confirmation articles he has moved in!

10:59:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 936 @ 0.00012066 = 0.1129 BTC [+] {7}

11:01:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00093862 = 7.509 BTC [+]

11:07:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 30 @ 0.038 = 1.14 BTC [-] {2}

11:09:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00093638 = 29.0278 BTC [-] {2}

11:13:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00093636 = 1.8727 BTC [-]

11:18:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00093558 = 21.4248 BTC [-] {3}

11:27:56 kakobrekla: !up FManTropyx

11:28:57 kakobrekla: hi there ?

11:55:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.03800005 = 0.646 BTC [+] {3}

12:07:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.038 = 0.57 BTC [-]

12:08:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8973 @ 0.00093536 = 8.393 BTC [-] {2}

12:11:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00093865 = 12.8595 BTC [+] {2}

12:15:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26750 @ 0.00093965 = 25.1356 BTC [+] {2}

12:16:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45550 @ 0.00094256 = 42.9336 BTC [+] {3}

12:26:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28859 @ 0.00094398 = 27.2423 BTC [+] {2}

12:27:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.038 = 0.57 BTC [-]

12:35:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [+]

12:38:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00094503 = 24.4763 BTC [+] {2}

12:42:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.038 = 0.57 BTC [-]

12:45:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00457301 = 0.4573 BTC [-]

12:46:25 kakobrekla: meanwhile in argentina; http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/var/ferreteria.gif

12:46:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.033 = 0.33 BTC [+] {4}

12:47:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03317325 = 0.5639 BTC [+]

12:48:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00457301 = 0.4573 BTC [-]

12:53:47 fluffypony: kakobrekla: I guess you could say ... (⌐■_■) ... he got screwed

12:54:10 fluffypony: YEEEEAAAHHH!

12:54:17 kakobrekla: did you notice the color of the shop, its called 'bitstamp green'

12:57:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00457301 = 0.3887 BTC [-] {2}

12:57:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 363 @ 0.095 = 34.485 BTC [+]

12:58:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.095 = 1.71 BTC [+]

12:59:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.095 = 2.565 BTC [+]

12:59:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00457301 = 0.2332 BTC [-]

13:00:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 115 @ 0.095 = 10.925 BTC [+]

13:03:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 216 @ 0.095 = 20.52 BTC [+]

13:05:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

13:05:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0335 = 0.1675 BTC [+]

13:07:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 199 @ 0.0394 = 7.8406 BTC [+]

13:10:35 ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu since you asked, Jodie Brady is the name of the Director of Finance for TBF

13:14:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3691 @ 0.00094362 = 3.4829 BTC [-]

13:15:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28150 @ 0.0009347 = 26.3118 BTC [-] {2}

13:24:10 ThickAsThieves: ;;bcstats

13:24:13 gribble: Current Blocks: 302083 | Current Difficulty: 8.8534163091278E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 302399 | Next Difficulty In: 316 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 18 hours, 22 minutes, and 7 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 10492950119.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.51866

13:24:22 ThickAsThieves: impressive

13:25:27 fluffypony: but you are not a jedi yet

13:25:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70971 @ 0.00093261 = 66.1883 BTC [-] {6}

13:31:08 BingoBoingo_: http://www.gomerblog.com/2014/01/bacon-tubes/

13:31:09 assbot: Bacon Laced Gastric Lavage Tubes a Big Hit for Patients | Medical Satire - GomerBlog

13:33:24 BingoBoingo_: http://www.gomerblog.com/2013/08/american-college-of-cardiology-is-publically-fights-with-the-american-society-of-nephrology/

13:33:24 assbot: American College of Cardiology Seen Publically Fighting with the American Society of Nephrology | Medical Satire - GomerBlog

13:34:53 ThickAsThieves: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/22/energy_economics_coal/

13:34:54 assbot: You know all those resources we're about to run out of? No, we aren't The Register

13:40:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

13:51:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 239 @ 0.095 = 22.705 BTC [+]

14:01:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30200 @ 0.00092877 = 28.0489 BTC [-] {2}

14:09:25 jurov: yeah, burn all dem coalz..like china does

14:19:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31700 @ 0.00092862 = 29.4373 BTC [-] {2}

14:22:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38093 @ 0.00092719 = 35.3194 BTC [-] {2}

14:28:07 mod6: %t

14:28:10 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 204 Ask: 329 Last Price: 330 24h-Vol: 83k High: 330 Low: 272 VWAP: 278

14:28:18 BingoBoingo_: Why didn't Hitler just light Britain on fire then, a la Centralia Pennsylvania?

14:31:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15229 @ 0.00092933 = 14.1528 BTC [+]

14:33:17 BingoBoingo_: Precision www.gomerblog.com/2013/08/enema/

14:33:26 BingoBoingo_: !up Guest90223

14:42:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34453 @ 0.00093476 = 32.2053 BTC [+]

14:48:06 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo_: centralia wasn't lit until 1960s. so, lack of imagination.

14:48:35 BingoBoingo_: asciilifeform: Ah. Yeah that detail.

14:52:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

14:54:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29097 @ 0.0009354 = 27.2173 BTC [+] {2}

14:56:20 fluffypony: coup in thailand is official

14:56:44 fluffypony: "Thailand’s military has announced it is taking control of the government and has suspended the constitution. In a TV statement, army chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha vowed to restore order and enact political reforms. The cabinet has been told to report to the military, TV broadcasting is suspended and political gatherings are banned. A nationwide curfew will operate from 22:00 to 05:00 local time."

14:57:48 fluffypony: inb4 ThailandCoin - mine and trade to save the oppressed people of Thailand!

15:05:00 pankkake: French dictionnary adds "selfie", "hashtag" and "troll"

15:05:24 fluffypony: pankkake: they added you to the dictionary??!

15:05:35 pankkake: ;;ud pankkake

15:05:38 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pankkake | People who have a food fetish tend to download pankkake porn. by James Bass January 23, 2004. 19 7. Mugs & shirts Buy “Pankkake” mugs & shirts.

15:05:52 BingoBoingo_: fluffypony: That curfew is some bullshit, those are some of my best hours of the day.

15:07:32 BingoBoingo_: ;;ticker --market all

15:07:38 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 516.27, vol: 15108.86081906 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 507.005, vol: 9946.21732 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 519.56, vol: 14687.86654178 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 515.0, vol: 46.4493895 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 510.556408, vol: 5512.54720000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 519.9166, vol: 31.00944146 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 517.668585, vol: 157.9904475 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

15:07:41 BingoBoingo_: ;;more

15:07:42 gribble: 514.620220619

15:08:25 pankkake: bitcoin-central actually having volume these days

15:08:56 BingoBoingo_: pankkake: Probably Bitstamp sucking has something to do with that.

15:09:08 pankkake: ;;ticker --currency eur --market all

15:09:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1652 @ 0.095 = 156.94 BTC [+]

15:09:15 gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 378.122724, vol: 15112.07087132 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 371.0, vol: 249.56532 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 377.083, vol: 46.4493895 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 373.557408, vol: 5536.89350000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 377.10001, vol: 1529.16837549 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 379.05, vol: 157.9904475 | Volume-weighted last average: 376.862527142

15:09:40 pankkake: kraken still has way more

15:11:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.0394 = 0.1182 BTC [+] {2}

15:18:00 fluffypony: that FCC throttling joke from Neocities is becoming a thing: http://bgr.com/2014/05/15/fcc-net-neutrality-protest/

15:18:00 assbot: FCC net neutrality protest: Throttle your website’s traffic | BGR

15:22:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [+]

15:24:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.095 = 0.475 BTC [+]

15:25:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03435 = 0.1031 BTC [+]

15:27:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0229999 = 0.46 BTC [+]

15:30:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

15:30:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 33 @ 0.02308036 = 0.7617 BTC [+] {4}

15:34:06 fluffypony: http://www.wired.com/2014/05/gitchain/

15:34:06 assbot: Hacker Plans Holy Marriage of GitHub and Bitcoin | Enterprise | WIRED

15:34:10 fluffypony: well

15:34:36 rithm: he's not going to like being married

15:34:49 fluffypony: lol

15:35:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00093476 = 9.815 BTC [-]

15:36:13 pankkake: well, that's what you get when you allow gay mariage. it's a slipperly slope

15:38:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 49 @ 0.095 = 4.655 BTC [+] {2}

15:39:01 thestringpuller: good "morning"

15:39:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 126 @ 0.095 = 11.97 BTC [+] {3}

15:40:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 150 @ 0.095 = 14.25 BTC [+]

15:41:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 64 @ 0.095 = 6.08 BTC [+]

15:45:07 chetty: <rithm> he's not going to like being married << he?

15:45:29 rithm: /s/he/she/it/they

15:45:41 chetty: :D

15:46:08 rithm: i think i was anthropomorphizing

15:46:40 chetty: nothing wrong with that, but I always thought bitcoin was a she

15:46:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.03435 = 1.4084 BTC [-]

15:47:16 rithm: lady bitcoin, eh

15:47:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03435 = 0.687 BTC [-]

15:49:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03435 = 0.3092 BTC [-]

15:51:22 TomServo: ;;ticker

15:51:24 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 518.61, Best ask: 518.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 518.63, 24 hour volume: 15360.33942680, 24 hour low: 492.5, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 509.334385827

15:51:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13029 @ 0.00093541 = 12.1875 BTC [+]

15:54:32 BingoBoingo_: rithm: It makes sense, all of the other good abstractions possess cunt when anthropomorphized consider Liberty, Justice

15:54:42 fluffypony: if this is legit this is awesome: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/903107259/scio-your-sixth-sense-a-pocket-molecular-sensor-fo

15:54:43 assbot: SCiO: Your Sixth Sense. A Pocket Molecular Sensor For All ! by Consumer Physics, Inc. — Kickstarter

15:57:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 88 @ 0.095 = 8.36 BTC [+]

15:58:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 96 @ 0.095 = 9.12 BTC [+]

16:00:00 benkay: ;;ticker

16:00:02 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 517.0, Best ask: 518.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 517.0, 24 hour volume: 15579.82542545, 24 hour low: 492.58, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 509.364613106

16:00:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.42885352 BTC to 8`552 shares, 28401 satoshi per share

16:00:24 cgcardona: hi everyone! o/

16:00:26 cgcardona: ;;ticker

16:00:28 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.45, Best ask: 518.85, Bid-ask spread: 2.40000, Last trade: 518.85, 24 hour volume: 15586.40251166, 24 hour low: 492.58, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 509.966038947

16:00:55 cgcardona: ~~~~]////////> to the moon

16:01:03 benkay: grr

16:01:05 cgcardona: i swear thats not a penis^ :_|

16:01:10 cgcardona: haha

16:01:30 Apocalyptic: hello princess

16:02:00 princessnell: hiya

16:02:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 26 @ 0.03947689 = 1.0264 BTC [+] {3}

16:02:42 benkay: <kakobrekla> meanwhile in argentina; http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/var/ferreteria.gif // jup.

16:03:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00472823 = 0.4681 BTC [+] {3}

16:04:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.004762 = 0.4048 BTC [+] {2}

16:05:18 BingoBoingo_: %book

16:05:19 atcbot: 39k@330 25k@328 14k@327 | 30k@204 6k@200 50k@158

16:05:19 benkay: <pankkake> kraken still has way more // this surprised me.

16:05:24 benkay: %t

16:05:25 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 204 Ask: 327 Last Price: 330 24h-Vol: 83k High: 330 Low: 272 VWAP: 278

16:05:46 Apocalyptic: spread is kinda huge

16:06:24 benkay: what's up with the spread, BingoBoingo_ ?

16:06:45 BingoBoingo_: benkay: I'll decline to comment

16:07:09 Apocalyptic: wasn't the central ATC bank supposed to not let it bubble ?:)

16:10:20 moiety: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619606.msg6860471#msg6860471 lol

16:10:20 assbot: Dealing with idiots.

16:10:55 BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: There are many orders and perogatives. Not letting it bubble is one, but there are other interests and concerns bubble prevention must be balanced with.

16:11:11 Apocalyptic: I'm sure there is

16:13:15 fluffypony: moiety: "A good way to handle idiots on call centers is btw to just hang up and call again, repeat until you have someone on the line that actually acts like a human." - because what I love most of all is sitting on hold for another 23 minutes.

16:13:21 rithm: http://9m.no/❋흍

16:13:22 assbot: Dealing with idiots.

16:13:31 rithm: unicode url shortener

16:13:37 rithm: i'm inlove already

16:13:55 benkay: my terminal is not set up to recognize links with unicode

16:14:03 Apocalyptic: by the way are any asseteers interested in another coin to be implemented on x-bt ?

16:14:05 benkay: i do not like the work this implies.

16:14:26 fluffypony: Apocalyptic: yes

16:14:43 fluffypony: Apocalyptic: Monero, but as its not forked from Bitcoin its a bit of a bitch to integrate

16:15:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 46 @ 0.095 = 4.37 BTC [+]

16:15:55 Apocalyptic: what's interesting about it fluffypony ?

16:16:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02237 = 0.1119 BTC [-] {2}

16:16:21 fluffypony: Apocalyptic: based on the CryptoNote protocol, uses stealth addresses and ring signatures for anonymity + plausible deniability

16:16:30 fluffypony: http://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf

16:17:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0223 = 0.1115 BTC [-]

16:17:26 thestringpuller: fluffypony tell me, your name is designed to sound soft

16:17:26 thestringpuller: lol

16:17:47 fluffypony: thestringpuller: yes, lulls you into a false sense of security

16:18:07 thestringpuller: but everyone needs a hug sometime

16:18:24 thestringpuller: That's why fluffy animals are awesome.

16:18:28 fluffypony: exactly

16:18:29 thestringpuller: Stuffed animals 4 lyfe yo

16:18:31 fluffypony: did you go to Build a Bear?

16:18:40 thestringpuller: I built a bear for my girlfriend there

16:18:53 fluffypony: awesome

16:18:56 thestringpuller: a few weeks ago when she was mad at me

16:18:59 thestringpuller: for something dumb

16:19:00 fluffypony: we have a Darth Vader bear from it

16:19:29 thestringpuller: you mine?

16:19:35 thestringpuller: i forgot to ask that (random topic change)

16:19:51 fluffypony: thestringpuller: only as a side-effect

16:20:08 fluffypony: all the rigs are off atm, got a few EC2 instances mining Monero but will switch them off in a few days

16:20:47 thestringpuller: do you sell?

16:20:49 thestringpuller: lol

16:20:51 thestringpuller: coins that is

16:21:11 fluffypony: thestringpuller: yes

16:21:18 fluffypony: I'll hold for a bit

16:21:23 fluffypony: and sell on a pump

16:21:31 fluffypony: but I tend to hold very little in any altcoin

16:21:37 fluffypony: they have a tendency to go away randomly

16:21:51 danielpbarron: i'm holding 10 LTC and something like 100 NMC

16:22:10 danielpbarron: i got the LTC way way back

16:22:28 Apocalyptic: ty fluffypony, will have a look at it

16:23:07 fluffypony: Apocalyptic: cool - I'm busy putting together an integration guide for exchanges, after spending a few hours fighting with the RPC API (still plenty raw) so will send that on to you when done

16:24:00 thestringpuller: oh I was thinking btc lol

16:24:24 thestringpuller: The mining pools seem to directly sell to market, but I don't trust exchanges.

16:24:40 fluffypony: thestringpuller: nah couldn't be bothered to buy an ASIC that's going to turn into a paperweight in 8 months

16:25:38 danielpbarron: i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail

16:25:40 benkay: what is the litecoin exchange of greatest and least fraudulent volume?

16:25:58 thestringpuller: danielpbarron: do you insure that cash in the mail?

16:26:02 danielpbarron: no

16:26:06 danielpbarron: not necessary

16:26:13 thestringpuller: what if you needed a large sum?

16:26:13 danielpbarron: that is like using tor

16:26:19 danielpbarron: what is large sum?

16:26:25 thestringpuller: like a pallet of bills

16:26:28 danielpbarron: lol

16:26:35 danielpbarron: i probably still wouldn't insure

16:26:44 danielpbarron: just dress it up to look like it isn't cash

16:26:45 thestringpuller: like god forbid Tony Soprano wants to buy BTC's for his stacks of cash.

16:26:51 Apocalyptic: <danielpbarron> i wish the miners would get in the WoT and sell directly to individuals like me with cash to send in the mail // some do

16:26:54 danielpbarron: i can't do that kind of volume anyway

16:26:55 Apocalyptic: but they have their regular

16:27:14 thestringpuller: yea. there really should be a better miner consortium tho

16:27:23 thestringpuller: it seems every miner that comes into btc-assets turns into a scammer

16:27:28 Apocalyptic: yeah, they are not specialy advertising they are miners

16:27:32 danielpbarron: mining is very scammy

16:27:35 Apocalyptic: (those I know who have a WoT that is)

16:28:00 thestringpuller: danielpbarron: mining is very scammy << well gigavps set the bar pretty low

16:28:35 danielpbarron: obviously it's not all a scam, but everything i see talked about seems to be a scam

16:28:42 thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space.

16:29:35 danielpbarron: i've had multiple face-to-face interactions in which the other guy expressed interest in buying mining equipment for doge or the like

16:29:42 fluffypony: benkay: LTC/USD or LTC/BTC ?

16:30:01 danielpbarron: and i'm like "NO! DANGER!"

16:30:35 danielpbarron: if anyone is selling their mining gear, you've got to assume they did the math and realized there is more money in selling the gear than running it

16:30:43 danielpbarron: unless you are sure you can get really cheap electricity

16:31:38 fluffypony: danielpbarron: many miners are fickle and stupid

16:31:47 fluffypony: they spend a fortune on their credit card when BTC is spiking

16:31:58 fluffypony: when it crashes they can't afford repayments or even the electricity every month

16:31:59 thestringpuller: is there a legit ltc/btc exchange?

16:32:02 fluffypony: so they sell stuff for cheap

16:32:10 danielpbarron: thestringpuller, does btc-e count?

16:32:10 fluffypony: thestringpuller, benkay: http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/#jump-ltc-btc

16:32:11 assbot: Cryptocoin charts

16:32:12 thestringpuller: looks like it may be easier to just buy a shit ton of LTC cash and then liquidate it into btc

16:32:15 fluffypony: that's a list by volume

16:32:33 fluffypony: BTC is the highest by volume by a wide margin

16:32:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02264717 = 0.5662 BTC [+] {2}

16:32:43 thestringpuller: fluffypony: do you have a long term supply of LTC or are you exiting?

16:32:54 fluffypony: thestringpuller: I haven't held LTC for ages

16:33:06 fluffypony: the last time I had LTC was when burnside refunded me my listing fee for ltcglobal

16:33:16 fluffypony: and I liquidated that in December when LTC spiked

16:33:27 thestringpuller: so you have BTC supply?

16:33:31 fluffypony: yes

16:33:32 thestringpuller: you said you mined? or am i confused

16:33:37 fluffypony: ok focus

16:33:44 fluffypony: the only coin I hold long term is BTC

16:34:00 fluffypony: everything else I will dabble in, but I'm in and out within a month or two at the most

16:34:31 thestringpuller: so where does the supply come from? mining?

16:34:34 thestringpuller: or is that unrelated

16:34:43 fluffypony: unrelated, I've held BTC for ages

16:34:56 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: So you are saying your endorsement of any alt should be taken with the caveat you plan on abandoning it yourself in short order.

16:35:01 thestringpuller: ah

16:35:22 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: Monero is different - I tend to abandon the rest because they're all Bitcoin forks

16:35:27 dexX7: i heard ltc is going to be listed on mtgox next month

16:35:41 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: which goes back to what Peter Todd said about BTC being able to adopt anything Ethereum, NXT, or anyone does

16:35:49 thestringpuller: ;;genrate 5500

16:35:51 gribble: The expected generation output, at 5500.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8853416309.13, is 0.000312420171354 BTC per day and 1.30175071398e-05 BTC per hour.

16:35:59 fluffypony: longevity is not guaranteed, and the opposite is most likely true

16:36:05 thestringpuller: ;;genrate 550000

16:36:06 gribble: The expected generation output, at 550000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 8853416309.13, is 0.0312420171354 BTC per day and 0.00130175071398 BTC per hour.

16:37:01 benkay: does btc-e count?

16:37:01 fluffypony: had a discussion with gmaxwell a few days ago about ring signatures, and he agrees that it could be done in a kludgy way in BTC, but it's an unlikely thing to happen, so Monero will possibly carve out a nice niche among the darknet markets crowd

16:38:24 benkay: asciilifeform: what's that post you're always throwing down about new languages with new features?

16:40:11 BingoBoingo: ;;genrate MAXINT

16:40:12 gribble: Error: 'MAXINT' is not a valid positiveFloat.

16:42:09 thestringpuller: ;;ident

16:42:09 gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None

16:42:18 Apocalyptic: thestringpuller> is there a legit ltc/btc exchange? // x-bt.com

16:44:03 benkay: book's pretty thin, Apocalyptic

16:44:54 thestringpuller: It's funny how it's far more productive to do business here than in #bitcoin-otc

16:47:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12593 @ 0.0009347 = 11.7707 BTC [-]

16:47:54 asciilifeform: benkay: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3206985430398054@naggum.net.html

16:47:54 assbot: Re: Representing code as XML: the Flare Programming Language - Naggum cll archive

16:48:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.0009347 = 9.7676 BTC [-]

16:49:28 Apocalyptic: benkay, it is

16:50:03 ThickAsThieves: <+thestringpuller> ThickAsThieves was a great mining representative but he exited the mining space. /// I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. Never sold or represented any hardware or tech.

16:50:07 Apocalyptic: i'm somehow oblivious to the fact people prefer btc-e & scammy exchanges

16:50:41 Apocalyptic: I dont think I ever represented mining in any broad way. // you were on the board of ASICMINER weren't you ?

16:50:48 ThickAsThieves: well it's hard for an alt exchange, you either want to curate or support as many as possible

16:51:03 ThickAsThieves: with curating not looking all that enticing in the short-term

16:51:08 benkay: thanks, asciilifeform

16:51:31 benkay: fluffypony re monero: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3206985430398054@naggum.net.html

16:51:32 assbot: Re: Representing code as XML: the Flare Programming Language - Naggum cll archive

16:51:42 ThickAsThieves: yes, i was on AM board, but that's falling a bit out of the context I was mentioned in

16:51:55 ThickAsThieves: also, it's a pretty powerless board

16:52:12 ThickAsThieves: unless you wanna run a AM franchise at least

16:52:26 jurov: <thestringpuller> is there a legit ltc/btc exchange? << x-bt.com but there's no volume :(

16:52:34 ThickAsThieves: and last I heard that was a losing proposition too

16:54:11 benkay: A "new" languagewait hang on asciilifeform i'm thinking about

16:54:11 benkay: that differs from the rest of the crop by one or a couple features is

16:54:11 benkay: proof positive that both what it came from and what it has become are

16:54:16 benkay: mutations about to die.

16:54:19 benkay: ugh i am so sorry

16:54:52 fluffypony: benkay: that's moot, I'm already heavily invested in BTC (the equivalent of "learn Common Lisp" by analogy), finding Monero interesting and possibly worthwhile does not change my position on BTC but is, rather, a direct result of the knowledge already accumulated

16:55:44 ThickAsThieves: we need altcoins so we know where to go when bitcoin dies

16:56:05 BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: The last time I was in -otc I don't think I had to linger more than half an hour to unload all the paypal I was burdened with

16:56:38 fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: in this specific case I don't know if you can call it an altcoin; it shares no common code with Bitcoin and has a completely different protocol / way of storing the blockchain / etc.

16:56:42 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: depends on how 'dies'

16:56:58 thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: was that this year?

16:57:05 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if ECDSA pops, afaik all known coins go with it

16:57:07 thestringpuller: I may have just gone when the trolls were in there.

16:57:17 BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Yeah, maybe a couple weeks ago at the latest.

16:57:30 thestringpuller: interesting

16:58:01 fluffypony: asciilifeform: I was just reading about that today (in the context of "Bitcoin will die because quantum computer!!!111") - general idea is that a hard fork to something different if quantum computing was imminent would solve that

16:58:24 pankkake: you guys know what's the '1' in Bitcoin addresses right?

16:58:33 BingoBoingo: Apparently having a blog helps

16:58:47 pankkake: address VERSION. because satoshi is a genius, he thought about future problems already

16:58:47 BingoBoingo: pankkake: It identifies the type of address

16:59:57 pankkake: in the year 2050 we'll just use addresses starting with 2 with another, stronger, crypto

17:00:58 asciilifeform: re: 'monero': 'Egalitarian proof of work' << do we need to read past this line ?

17:00:59 pankkake: so far the crypto world managed to move to better algorithms before attacks were economically interesting. I don't see it changing

17:01:19 Apocalyptic: <asciilifeform> re: 'monero': 'Egalitarian proof of work' << do we need to read past this line ? // my thoughts exactly

17:01:36 pankkake: yeah, it is both a stupid intention, and an impossible goal

17:02:04 fluffypony: asciilifeform: the PoW is just stupidly expensive to try reduce the gap between CPU performant miners and GPU / ASIC miners

17:02:12 fluffypony: anyway, whitepaper goes into more detail with less sales-pitch: https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf

17:02:22 fluffypony: I don't consider the PoW particularly noteworthy

17:02:33 asciilifeform: fluffypony: aka 'we love botnets'

17:02:37 pankkake: PoWs are always mined by the guys with the most hardware, no matter how you twist it

17:02:44 fluffypony: pankkake: exactly

17:02:53 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2014&bots=true#444142

17:02:54 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

17:03:12 pankkake: commodity hardware is just worse because it can be rented, whether supercalculator, cloud or botnet

17:03:23 pankkake: and renting instead of buying makes attacks cheaper

17:03:51 asciilifeform: pankkake: this is nonsense. given as it assumes that the price of such rentals is entirely unaffected by this possibility.

17:03:58 asciilifeform: classic case of 'partial differentiation'

17:03:59 fluffypony: everyone complains about every level - CPU mining? terrible because botnets! GPU mining? terrible because only 25-35 white males have GPUs! ASIC mining? terrible because centralisation!

17:04:21 asciilifeform: 'if shit has antigravitic properties, kitchen chairs would look like toilets, and toilets would be chimneys.'

17:04:56 pankkake: fluffypony: I think you mean 12-17 males :D

17:05:20 ThickAsThieves: <+asciilifeform> ThickAsThieves: if ECDSA pops, afaik all known coins go with it /// lotsa ways to kill a coin

17:05:25 pankkake: I fail to see the centralization of ASICs. GPUs = AMD. that's it. CPU = 99% Intel.

17:05:52 asciilifeform: pankkake: what people complain about is that 'the race is to the swift'

17:05:52 jurov: ASIC = KnC

17:05:55 ThickAsThieves: doesnt nvidia have a suitable card yet?

17:06:03 ThickAsThieves: i thought i heard they made one

17:06:09 asciilifeform: but what is the alternative? the race goes to the snails?

17:06:14 fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: their mining performance on the Haswell chips is amazing

17:06:14 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

17:06:28 pankkake: no, their cards aren't very good for proof of works

17:06:51 pankkake: they're very good for many scientific calculations, however

17:07:04 fluffypony: pankkake: on scrypt GTX 750 ti does half the hash rate of an AMD R280 at half the cost, but it uses 40W of power instead of ~300W

17:07:12 ThickAsThieves: I think people like to forget that bitcoin has plenty risks to its life

17:07:14 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: afaik no way to kill btc without taking down all known (at least sha-based) alts with it.

17:07:31 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: on account of them being codewise clones

17:08:07 ThickAsThieves: they may all have similar weaknesses, but not all die the same detah

17:08:09 ThickAsThieves: death*

17:08:16 ThickAsThieves: they will all die eventually

17:08:23 ThickAsThieves: everything does of course

17:08:47 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: please try to think of a scenario where a weakness (in the usual sense) turns up, but does not kill classic btc and its alts simultaneously.

17:09:09 ThickAsThieves: well i'll be that guy and bring up satoshi's coins

17:09:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10874 @ 0.0009356 = 10.1737 BTC [+] {2}

17:09:26 ThickAsThieves: which could cause various problems

17:09:46 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: let's say they all get sold tonight. at this point, this may not be a 'death'

17:09:46 ThickAsThieves: having a large proportion of the money isnt a problem per se

17:10:01 ThickAsThieves: it could be near-death

17:10:03 asciilifeform: (a year and a half ago, when i wrote about it, it may have been)

17:10:03 fluffypony: like him suddenly being wealthier than all nations on the earth combined and demanding to be our overlord?

17:10:04 ThickAsThieves: as good as dead

17:10:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.095 = 0.665 BTC [+]

17:10:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16117 @ 0.00093952 = 15.1422 BTC [+]

17:10:15 ThickAsThieves: suppose it triggered other problems

17:10:21 ThickAsThieves: or ushered in another coin

17:10:33 ThickAsThieves: or suppose it leads to blacklisting

17:10:35 ThickAsThieves: etc

17:10:41 ThickAsThieves: this can go so many way

17:10:44 ThickAsThieves: s

17:11:15 ThickAsThieves: the logic and design of bitcoin may be elegant, but it must still live through the filter of everything else

17:11:30 asciilifeform: i'm still waiting for a hypothetical altchain that is neither a joke, nor retarded

17:11:54 ThickAsThieves: theyll probly come over time

17:12:03 asciilifeform: no sign of one so far

17:12:09 ThickAsThieves: even then bitcoin may beat "better" coins

17:12:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00094256 = 15.458 BTC [+]

17:12:42 asciilifeform: i venture to guess that it is because the temptation to 'go retarded' (e.g. premine, insert 'egalitarian' crapola like demurrage, reward phriends, etc.) is overwhelming.

17:12:43 ThickAsThieves: bitcoin does at least have a system for adapting

17:12:52 ThickAsThieves: which also happens to be one of its weaknesses

17:13:00 pankkake: I don't think it will be an altchain. Just hard-fork the bitcoin blockchain into something actually better.

17:13:19 asciilifeform: and the number of people capable of writing a true from-scratch (vs. cribbed) alt is probably single-digit.

17:13:30 pankkake: I don't think creating a new coin is an honest attitude

17:14:52 ThickAsThieves: asciilifeform, i've been trying to write up some thoughts on abstract system design concepts, stuff in the area of mircea's perfect economy, systematics? dynamism, resilience, co-dependency, etc. Do you have any suggested reading?

17:15:12 ThickAsThieves: well anyone else is free to answer too ;)

17:15:22 BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Spinoza's Politics?

17:15:29 *: pankkake understood none of these words

17:16:09 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: 'And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared.' by Genrich Altshuller.

17:16:30 ThickAsThieves: basically theorizing about how all these things interact and how to best design them, thinking of decenttalization and centralization as order and chaos, as tools, not problems

17:16:31 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: the english translation is a bit clunky but still eminently worth it.

17:16:39 ThickAsThieves: thanks i'll check out both

17:16:52 pankkake: Genrich Altshuller ~= Coingen Altshiller

17:17:15 ThickAsThieves: yes problem-solving is great category for what i'm aimibng for

17:17:28 ThickAsThieves: i want to make sure i'm not inventing ideas someone else has already

17:17:35 BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: before the Politics, You'd probably need to read Spinoza's Ethics to get to some of the WTF

17:17:37 ThickAsThieves: which i have tendency to do

17:17:53 ThickAsThieves: ok

17:25:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 105 @ 0.095 = 9.975 BTC [+]

17:25:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14459 @ 0.00094256 = 13.6285 BTC [+]

17:25:31 thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: RE: Not representing mining in any broad way. << You did operate assets that correlated to hashpower, so I just kinda figured you were a "mining something" you know?

17:25:42 thestringpuller: XBOND's cashflow came from mining...

17:26:20 ThickAsThieves: not true at all

17:26:26 princessnell: ThickAsThieves Antifragile, maybe?

17:27:02 ThickAsThieves: someone else had mentioned Antifragile to me for some other reason

17:27:08 ThickAsThieves: I guess i'll order that too

17:28:04 princessnell: ThickAsThieves I'd think human psychology would factor into those questions as well. Thinking Fast and Slow would be a good start.

17:28:11 BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: If you go ahead with the Spinoza I recommend posterboard for note taking

17:28:34 princessnell: ThickAsThieves and probably The Righteous Mind since this ultimately involves moral sympathies

17:28:49 ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure i agree on those points,

17:29:16 ThickAsThieves: i'm trying to approach it to extract more absolute observations

17:29:38 ThickAsThieves: it's hard for me to articulate succinctly

17:29:56 thestringpuller: Where did XBOND's cashflow really come from then? You were trading drugs or something?

17:29:59 thestringpuller: i kid

17:29:59 ThickAsThieves: but more like the science of systems

17:30:07 princessnell: Well, you know what you're looking for. But if humans are involved in the system, then those areas become indispensible.

17:30:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7391 @ 0.00093507 = 6.9111 BTC [-]

17:30:46 ThickAsThieves: it's funny youre arguing something i normally argue

17:30:59 ThickAsThieves: that you cant remove human traits from human things

17:31:14 princessnell: I'm writing about that right now so I'm a bit anchored :)

17:31:28 jurov: extract more absolute observations << a fool's errand

17:31:30 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if you want heuristics you can actually use immediately, read 'suddenly the inventor.'

17:31:44 asciilifeform: (vs. 'feel good' fluff)

17:32:07 ThickAsThieves: i line a repeated a few times at the bitcoin conference: "You can't remove trust from transactions, you can only design it to be where you prefer it"

17:32:39 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: http://www.datafilehost.com/d/bed7d75b

17:32:39 assbot: Download And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared.pdf

17:32:47 ThickAsThieves: jurov, foolish only in the way that Darwin was

17:32:48 asciilifeform: ^ warez

17:33:18 ThickAsThieves: thx

17:33:26 ThickAsThieves: already ordered the book :)

17:34:19 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: unfortunate. the fellow's long-dead, and sales of the translations feed the idiot hucksters who claim to be altschuller's students (they peddle derivative crapola to american 'mba' types)

17:34:47 ThickAsThieves: ah

17:34:52 asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: they are the most likely reason why his work remains obscure in the west.

17:35:02 asciilifeform: people buy something with 'triz' in the title, and get... a turd

17:35:14 asciilifeform: then conclude 'soviet disinfo'

17:35:15 ThickAsThieves: yeah i was bombarded with TRIZ on amazon

17:35:35 asciilifeform: buy nothing that wasn't penned by mr. a personally

17:35:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14086 @ 0.00094101 = 13.2551 BTC [+]

17:36:03 ThickAsThieves: basically, since that day i was trying to prove that mp

17:36:14 ThickAsThieves: 's theory for perfect economy,

17:36:27 ThickAsThieves: required perfect economies within it

17:36:38 ThickAsThieves: i felt that his theory wasnt complete

17:36:51 ThickAsThieves: and maybe just scratching the surface of something more applicable

17:37:17 ThickAsThieves: this began a common thread through other observations about bitcoin and systems

17:38:02 ThickAsThieves: it probably all boils down to something super simple, like a basic physics concept

17:38:06 ThickAsThieves: but whatever

17:38:10 ThickAsThieves: it's enjoyable work

17:39:20 benkay: thermodynamics is at the root of everything, especially economics.

17:40:05 ThickAsThieves: right, so it's basically trying to understand how physics echoes into economies

17:41:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 91 @ 0.03948434 = 3.5931 BTC [+] {2}

17:42:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-public-burning-of-bob-beck/

17:42:47 asciilifeform: penguirker is bog-slow

17:44:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 144 @ 0.03970563 = 5.7176 BTC [+] {3}

17:46:27 princessnell: through biology (evolution) and ultimately psychology

17:47:23 princessnell: this short alchian classic gets at it: http://www.caps.am/materials/diaspora%20writings/Alchien%20on%20uncertainity%20and%20development.pdf

17:49:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 25 @ 0.03998918 = 0.9997 BTC [+] {3}

17:50:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.04 = 0.28 BTC [+]

17:53:02 ThickAsThieves: thx princessnell

17:53:11 danielpbarron: what would be a decent bounty to offer for someone to figure out how to compile ssss-0.5 on openbsd 5.5?

17:53:46 fluffypony: thestringpuller: btw, watched that clip with the wife, was a little teary at the end :)

17:54:03 princessnell: ThickAsThieves curious, what do you think the theory lacks?

17:54:55 thestringpuller: fluffypony: yea I think that story is a good textbook example of "true love" or what have you

17:55:56 ThickAsThieves: princessnell, you mean mp's perfect economy theory?

17:55:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 65 @ 0.095 = 6.175 BTC [+]

17:56:13 princessnell: yes

17:56:31 princessnell: what is the itch here

17:56:43 asciilifeform: danielpbarron: how about 0.5 btc

17:57:07 ThickAsThieves: well, I see weaknesses in that it contains itself within each of its requires elements, and that there is aguably a lack of distinction between the punishment gazette and the forum

17:57:17 ThickAsThieves: required*

17:57:24 danielpbarron: yikes, a bit steep for me; i was gonna offer 0.1

17:57:29 ThickAsThieves: I also take issue with "perfect"

17:57:33 asciilifeform: danielpbarron: ok, 0.1

17:57:38 danielpbarron: you would do this?

17:58:05 danielpbarron: do we need a contract or do you trust me?

17:59:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.0009337 = 37.1613 BTC [-] {5}

17:59:30 asciilifeform: danielpbarron: let's try http://pastebin.com/CfXkxAfW

17:59:30 assbot: wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/ssss/ssss_0.5.orig.tar.gz tar - Pastebin.com

17:59:32 ThickAsThieves: i dont think an economy can be perfect, because all ecomonies must die eventually

17:59:44 ThickAsThieves: economies

18:00:25 princessnell: that's the physics point

18:00:32 ThickAsThieves: right

18:00:54 princessnell: i think it's bizarre to call it non-teleological personally

18:01:18 princessnell: this is the biology point

18:01:37 danielpbarron: asciilifeform, will try

18:01:52 asciilifeform: danielpbarron: ought to take you 1 min. or so

18:01:54 asciilifeform: say if it worked.

18:01:56 ThickAsThieves: can you illustrate it in contrast to the physics point?

18:03:09 ThickAsThieves: what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths

18:03:38 ThickAsThieves: a game of life kind of thing with economies as organisms or whatever

18:05:05 ThickAsThieves: so maybe there are ideal or dynamic or codependent or viral economies

18:05:13 ThickAsThieves: just thinking out loud

18:06:24 princessnell: it's a bit hard for me to separate

18:07:02 ThickAsThieves: and then this transfers into designs of systems, complex problem-solving, computer modeling

18:07:10 princessnell: economics is the study of decisions to allocate scare resources given unlimited wants

18:07:21 princessnell: so the literal physics is that you can't consume more matter than exists

18:07:24 princessnell: no utility monsters

18:07:50 princessnell: (thermoeconomists extend this point more literally, but i think it's better as a mental model)

18:08:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4900001 BTC [-]

18:08:17 princessnell: so we've been going about thinking "look at us, economizing on nature!"

18:08:21 asciilifeform: princessnell: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/8

18:08:22 assbot: In which Peter Singer investigates a basement flood - Existential Comics

18:08:25 princessnell: but this whole time, nature has been economizing on us

18:08:28 princessnell: that's evolution

18:08:46 princessnell: evolution itself is non-teleological

18:09:11 princessnell: but human action cannot be anything but teleological

18:09:12 danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i get errors; similar to when i tried doing it with the tar.gz from the official ssss page

18:09:19 danielpbarron: not sure how to dump the errors into a file

18:09:21 asciilifeform: danielpbarron: pastebin ?

18:09:28 princessnell: economies are aggregations of human actions

18:09:57 princessnell: asciilifeform heh

18:10:20 danielpbarron: Your IP has been blocked from posting new items, if you think this is a mistake, please email us at admin@pastebin.com.

18:10:23 danielpbarron: lol what's a good alternative

18:10:32 asciilifeform: danielpbarron: pm me

18:11:29 princessnell: the properties of a unique economy are inextricable from the social behaviors of the humans who influence and are influenced by it

18:11:31 TomServo: danielpbarron: How do you end up banned from pastebin?

18:11:49 danielpbarron: idk, maybe because i used it to host my homepage

18:11:53 danielpbarron: i emailed them yesterday

18:12:01 TomServo: Also, dpaste.com maybe helpful in the future

18:12:04 TomServo: Ah

18:12:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.04 = 0.12 BTC [+]

18:12:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00093099 = 5.6325 BTC [-]

18:12:26 princessnell: basically: the endogeneity becomes a lot more managable when viewed from an evolutionary lense

18:13:40 ThickAsThieves: maybe there is some distinction between properties of an economy, properties of human influence, and each acting as separate friction to the economy's lifespan

18:14:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/22/uncle-sam-scam-victim/

18:14:25 ThickAsThieves: and thus some definitions of properties of economies, with some epectation of each property's effect on a design

18:14:26 jurov: wtf is "friction to lifespan"?

18:14:30 princessnell: <ThickAsThieves> what i'm working on, includes a suggestion that there are multiple types of economies, each with roles/strengths << going from here, the types and properties are determined by the gene/culture interaction of the group that acts upon it

18:14:34 ThickAsThieves: how long it lasts

18:15:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41853 @ 0.00093645 = 39.1932 BTC [+]

18:15:21 ThickAsThieves: yes princessnell

18:16:13 princessnell: maybe the distinction is economic laws and economic institutions

18:16:31 princessnell: economic laws = physics

18:16:44 princessnell: economic institutions = biology/psychology

18:17:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 186 @ 0.095 = 17.67 BTC [+]

18:18:04 princessnell: i.e. demand curves slope downwards in zimbabwe and hong kong but the institutions/outcomes vary for evolutionary (genetic and cultural) reasons

18:18:51 ThickAsThieves: studying economic system designs to better apply them

18:19:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.095 = 1.71 BTC [+]

18:19:57 ThickAsThieves: http://members.jacksonville.com/news/crime/2014-05-20/story/jacksonville-police-will-knock-18000-doors-northwest-jacksonville

18:20:00 assbot: Jacksonville police will knock on 18,000 doors in Northwest Jacksonville in an attempt to stop gun-related crime | members.jacksonville.com

18:20:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 52 @ 0.095 = 4.94 BTC [+]

18:20:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]

18:22:19 benkay: <danielpbarron> idk, maybe because i used it to host my homepage // lol go on i desire more lols danielpbarron

18:22:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49 = 0.98 BTC [-]

18:23:23 wywialm: good evening

18:27:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00093645 = 17.418 BTC [+]

18:31:40 benkay: hello wywialm what've you been up to?

18:31:43 benkay: !up virtuals

18:32:47 wywialm: hey benkay, reading the latest logs now

18:33:21 wywialm: ThickAsThieves: if you plan to consider something connected with money when designing (economic) systems, you may want to have a look at "Theory of monetary institutions" by Lawrence White

18:33:55 ThickAsThieves: thx

18:38:43 benkay: wywialm: haven't seen you in a while - how many months of logs are you reading?

18:39:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6071 @ 0.00093645 = 5.6852 BTC [+]

18:42:56 jurov: davout why b-c vanished from bitcoinity?

18:43:21 jurov: ;;later tell davout why b-c vanished from bitcoinity?

18:43:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:43:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00093645 = 5.4314 BTC [+]

18:49:25 wywialm: benkay, beginning from latest. I don't have that much to read, I've been here sometimes together with numerisTrade account

18:51:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0335 = 0.1005 BTC [+]

18:52:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00093338 = 13.534 BTC [-]

18:53:10 princessnell: wywialm hey kewl, dr. white is my macro prof

18:53:53 wywialm: wow, lucky you

18:54:52 wywialm: I was wondering who could link to Armen Alchian's papers

18:54:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.095 = 0.95 BTC [+]

18:55:16 princessnell: truly. masonxcore is p gr8.

19:05:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 117 @ 0.095 = 11.115 BTC [+]

19:06:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 345 @ 0.095 = 32.775 BTC [+]

19:12:02 wywialm: princessnell, u doc, graduate or?

19:12:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 300 @ 0.0008098 = 0.2429 BTC [-]

19:12:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2090 @ 0.00093645 = 1.9572 BTC [+]

19:12:41 princessnell: wywilam just finished first year of phd

19:13:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9010 @ 0.00093878 = 8.4584 BTC [+]

19:13:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 141 @ 0.0008098 = 0.1142 BTC [-]

19:13:20 wywialm: great!

19:17:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

19:22:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15150 @ 0.0009328 = 14.1319 BTC [-] {2}

19:26:06 benkay: !up darlidada

19:26:09 benkay: !up SuchWow

19:26:23 jurov: !up Dimsler

19:26:39 fluffypony: !up up

19:26:46 fluffypony: :(

19:27:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33722 @ 0.00093754 = 31.6157 BTC [+]

19:27:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]

19:32:09 benkay: ;;ticker

19:32:10 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 520.99, Best ask: 521.29, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 520.99, 24 hour volume: 16177.76003459, 24 hour low: 492.65, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 511.558371793

19:32:15 benkay: cripes

19:33:59 thestringpuller: hmm

19:34:01 thestringpuller: interesting

19:35:22 ThickAsThieves: probly go 550+

19:35:32 ThickAsThieves: before it relaxes

19:36:28 ThickAsThieves: https://xrptalk.org/topic/2629-selling-my-xrp/

19:36:29 assbot: Selling my XRP - General Discussion - XRP Talk

19:36:43 ThickAsThieves: Founder of Ripple is announcing he is dumping his XRP. Ripple crashes 35% and still falling.

19:37:12 ThickAsThieves: I remember getting 7 or 8 btc for my free XRPs

19:40:19 thestringpuller: ThickAsThieves: i remember that lol

19:40:21 thestringpuller: long time ago

19:40:23 thestringpuller: my how time flies

19:41:41 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 763 @ 0.00268476 = 2.0485 BTC [-]

19:43:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.04 = 0.4 BTC [-]

19:44:14 BingoBoingo: Yeah, If only I'd held onto my XRP long enough to dump them for more.

19:46:58 Dimsler: blng bling

19:49:47 BingoBoingo: In other news after a month of ineffective bullshit Trimethoprim/sulfamethoxazole as me pretty much healed up.

19:51:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20989 @ 0.00093844 = 19.6969 BTC [+] {2}

19:52:42 thestringpuller: Lol Venture Brothers

19:52:44 jurov: BingoBoingo when they could be dumped for more?

19:52:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12029 @ 0.00094009 = 11.3083 BTC [+] {2}

19:53:23 BingoBoingo: jurov: Well, I dumped them as the giveaway was going on. 45k XRP sold for 0.6 BTC

19:53:42 BingoBoingo: I didn't anticipate the giveaway ending so quickly

19:54:10 jurov: i dumped for 5BTC and still retained some, that's why i'm asking

19:57:49 BingoBoingo: jurov: Yeah, there was someone on Bitcointalk buying batches and paying without issue so I unloaded them that way instead of waiting for a market.

19:58:08 jurov: ah i went through bitstamp

19:58:38 jurov: i guess that dude made hefty profit

19:58:39 benkay: https://cmd.fm/

20:00:27 BingoBoingo: Yeah, some bear dude. I don't think it was the scam enabling moderator one. All I know is later they fucked themself by buying a bunch of block erupters.

20:01:28 thestringpuller: what the fuck is this benkay ?

20:02:49 BingoBoingo: http://deadspin.com/did-new-clippers-ceo-dick-parsons-really-play-college-b-1579773293/+sarah-hedgecock

20:02:50 assbot: Did New Clippers CEO Dick Parsons Really Play College Basketball?

20:03:27 benkay: thestringpuller: do i look like your googleslave?

20:03:54 thestringpuller: do you really want me to answer that?

20:09:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00011907 = 0.2381 BTC [-] {6}

20:12:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 519 @ 0.095 = 49.305 BTC [+]

20:13:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.095 = 2.85 BTC [+]

20:23:54 fluffypony: benkay: that's awesome

20:24:01 fluffypony: takes a bit of getting used to

20:24:10 fluffypony: but I'm never going to use SoundCloud again without this

20:24:52 fluffypony: ah ascii star wars

20:26:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.095 = 2.85 BTC [+]

20:32:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1500 @ 0.00011892 = 0.1784 BTC [-] {6}

20:33:43 []bot: Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/826/ Odds: 2(Y):98(N) by coin, 3(Y):97(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.3276812 BTC. Current weight: 90,857.

20:34:06 davout: http://bitbet.us/bet/826/bitcoin-central-out-of-business-in-2014/

20:34:06 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014 :: 0.24 B (2%) on Yes, 10.09 B (98%) on No | closing in 7 months 1 week| weight: 90`857 (100`000 to 1)

20:34:13 davout: make your bets

20:35:07 Apocalyptic: isn't this a badbet ?

20:35:18 Apocalyptic: as it's in your sole authority to decide of the outcome

20:35:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.095 = 0.285 BTC [+]

20:35:59 BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: His money's on no. Other people could make it resolve as yes however.

20:36:12 Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, doesn't matter where his money is

20:36:43 BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: What I assume matters is he isn't the only one who could end it.

20:36:54 davout: how would hide some sort of bankruptcy/shutdown?

20:37:07 Apocalyptic: the point is the bet outcome is controlled by a single individual

20:37:30 davout: iup davidlatapie

20:37:38 davout: !up davidlatapie

20:37:41 davout: blergh

20:37:46 BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: The NSA could kill b-c outside of davout's hands.

20:37:55 fluffypony: davout: is that BitcoinBourse's bet?

20:37:57 Apocalyptic: true

20:37:57 davidlatapie: hi davout willing to bet?

20:38:17 BingoBoingo: Their banking partners could make it impractical to continue b-c in ways out of davout's control

20:38:23 davidlatapie: http://bitbet.us/bet/826/bitcoin-central-out-of-business-in-2014/

20:38:23 assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin-Central out of business in 2014 :: 0.24 B (2%) on Yes, 10.09 B (98%) on No | closing in 7 months 1 week| weight: 90`855 (100`000 to 1)

20:38:27 davout: Apocalyptic: the point is that any of the main reasons for which it could shutdown couldn't be easily concealed by me

20:38:29 Apocalyptic: though "Yes prevails if there is an official announcement of the end of operations"

20:38:41 Apocalyptic: i guess if NSA kills b-c it won't resolve as yes

20:39:16 Apocalyptic: davout: you can just say it's not profiterable anymore of that the company has changed plans

20:39:38 davout: that would constitute a yes

20:39:54 Apocalyptic: it would

20:39:57 davout: who cares whether i think it's profitable

20:40:19 davout: the bet will resolve as yes, because we won't be able to hide the fact that trading has ceased

20:40:49 davout: anyway, if you think i'll manipulate the bet outcome, just bet on 'no' :-)

20:41:51 Apocalyptic: i think no such thing :)

20:45:07 davidlatapie: davout: this is really a shame that b-c closes. The only exchange to be fully compliant with EU regulations and be completely located in the Eurozone :(

20:45:12 davidlatapie: Hi Quanttek

20:45:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

20:46:34 Apocalyptic: wait, it's closing nao ?

20:47:04 davout: i'm just hiring davidlatapie to spread rumors and slander

20:49:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

20:49:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.0009351 = 40.3963 BTC [-]

20:49:49 davidlatapie: davout wants to make big money :)

20:50:32 *: fluffypony bets 10 BTC on yes

20:50:40 fluffypony: oh oops, fingers slipped, ended up on no

20:51:09 *: davidlatapie will better buy MRO or TEK

20:56:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 560 @ 0.00019049 = 0.1067 BTC [-] {3}

20:57:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1203 @ 0.00018672 = 0.2246 BTC [-] {7}

21:01:45 benkay: i'm not seeing the bet, fluffypony

21:01:46 benkay: ...

21:01:51 benkay: other updates from the openssl mines

21:02:00 fluffypony: benkay: I know, I lied

21:02:04 *: fluffypony is ashamed

21:02:19 benkay: when we build this ios app with openssl, everything works just dandy building and derping the thing directly onto the phone

21:02:46 benkay: er, debug

21:03:00 benkay: when built for 'debug' (whatever that means in the context of ios), openssl's just dandy.

21:03:23 fluffypony: in debug does it not use different libs than release?

21:03:23 benkay: when built and packaged per the nondeterministic build for distribution process, openssl refuses to hilariously generate rsa keys

21:04:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.03343 = 0.8358 BTC [+] {5}

21:04:03 benkay: i am just the phb on this project

21:04:19 benkay: relating stories of woe and amuse

21:05:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.03343117 = 0.5683 BTC [+] {5}

21:05:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 374 @ 0.095 = 35.53 BTC [+]

21:05:20 thestringpuller: sounds like shock and aw

21:05:26 thestringpuller: or wow and flutter

21:06:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03345833 = 0.4015 BTC [+] {3}

21:08:06 benkay: the hilarious thing is that all of the other keygen routines work just dandy

21:08:32 BingoBoingo: Dun dun

21:12:11 benkay: so derp

21:13:42 bitcoinpete: howdy y'all

21:13:57 princessnell: hola

21:14:00 bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/dmac1/status/469581341605232640

21:14:01 assbot: Uber in talks to raise ~ $500M in funding round valuing the taxi-hailing app > $12B http://t.co/lqykSixkuV by /EvelynRusli /MikeSpectorWSJ

21:14:51 bitcoinpete: this is why my golf and badminton buddies, all in their late 20's, want to develop apps

21:15:06 bitcoinpete: one for hospital patient management, one for social media/advertising

21:15:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0335 = 0.1005 BTC [+]

21:15:47 bitcoinpete: it's nuts

21:15:50 bitcoinpete: it's the lottery

21:15:59 bitcoinpete: a very expensive lottery

21:16:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03344 = 0.1003 BTC [-]

21:16:19 bitcoinpete: where only the speshul app developers win

21:17:02 thestringpuller: apps suck

21:17:08 thestringpuller: fucking command line please

21:17:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00093873 = 9.0118 BTC [+]

21:17:25 bitcoinpete: so benkay's cmd > songza

21:21:20 bitcoinpete: then there's this bicycle flywheel+app zaniness that raised $700k on tardstarter

21:21:27 bitcoinpete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X4rZhOEHT0

21:21:27 assbot: FlyKly Smart Wheel - YouTube

21:21:35 bitcoinpete: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flykly/flykly-smart-wheel

21:21:36 assbot: FlyKly Smart Wheel by FlyKly — Kickstarter

21:23:13 bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/05/22/energy_economics_coal/ << tis a suprisingly abundant planet, this.

21:23:13 assbot: You know all those resources we're about to run out of? No, we aren't The Register

21:24:10 bitcoinpete: kakobrekla:meanwhile in argentina; http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/var/ferreteria.gif << fucking priceless! lmao. "of course I count them!"

21:26:47 thestringpuller: is that safe for work?

21:26:49 thestringpuller: :D

21:28:00 BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Very safe for work

21:31:21 Apocalyptic: <thestringpuller> apps suck

21:31:21 Apocalyptic: <thestringpuller> fucking command line please // if only more people would realize that

21:32:26 bitcoinpete: chetty: dun matter about reality, matters what folks think. Apocalyptic: it's exactly the other way around << pretty much

21:32:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4987999 BTC [+]

21:33:20 fluffypony: thestringpuller: "how can an app be real without a GUI?????" - Windows user

21:33:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]

21:33:40 bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: If the US couldn't even extradite Bobby Fischer in his lifetime, I dun see how they are extraditing mircea_popescu << long time ago. different rules now.

21:33:44 fluffypony: "How Can Apps Be Real If GUIs Aren't Real" - Jaden Smith

21:34:42 BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Different alleged transgressions as well that basically amount to ignoring the US.

21:35:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00094062 = 16.7901 BTC [+] {2}

21:35:41 bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: the clay-footed monster ain't breathed its last breath yet.

21:35:53 jurov: now if the hipsters did not kill phones with physical qwerty kbd

21:36:29 jurov: now i have to either stick to my xperia mini pro or wait for neo900 or jolla cover

21:36:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0404799 = 0.2024 BTC [+]

21:37:41 joecool: fuck jolla

21:37:44 joecool: asshats

21:37:51 jurov: why?

21:38:04 joecool: because they misrepresented their entire project and goals

21:38:20 joecool: goal to be open? yeah ok, they said absolutely nothing about the other half, didn't ship it with a flasher

21:38:35 joecool: and when someone figured out how to reload part of it, they locked down the bootloader

21:38:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.095 = 2.47 BTC [+]

21:38:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00093873 = 24.8294 BTC [-]

21:38:59 joecool: most of the devs in tmo turned their back on the project after that

21:39:31 joecool: i had the n9 and toyed with sailfish on it, was not too impressive

21:39:44 joecool: i have a preorder in for neo900

21:40:08 joecool: currently switched to a Z10 for a daily phone because it actually works and the UI is a bit like harmattan on the N9 was

21:40:19 joecool: but stoked about the neo900 project

21:48:13 bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: Spinoza's Politics? << good start

21:49:37 BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: The problem with clay feet is they erode in running water. The US seems to be slowly realizing that unlike stupidity with its infinite hitpoints, the US has finite and declining influence to expend.

21:50:35 BingoBoingo: Also for Spinoza the posterboard as note taking surface is a serious suggestion. You are going to want a large surface to map out the relations of things in the text.

21:51:27 bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: i could see a posterboard being useful.

21:51:55 BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: In the class where we read the ethics I had a sheet for each chapter.

21:52:02 bitcoinpete: as for the us, its power is certainly finite and declining, though it may use its remaining hitpoints for god knows what

21:52:25 bitcoinpete: heh cool

21:54:12 bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/469597073029873665

21:54:13 assbot: Recommended reading from the /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets library: http://t.co/IoN54dvBK3

21:57:37 bitcoinpete: ;;rate BingoBoingo 1 spinozan, blogger

21:57:38 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BingoBoingo has been recorded.

21:57:46 jurov: don't we have wiki for this?

21:58:16 bitcoinpete: for...

21:59:06 jurov: for recommended reading

21:59:21 jurov: hm i don't have an account... kakobrekla?

21:59:23 fluffypony: jurov: ask moiety to add it

21:59:45 jurov: ok, i'll gladly delegate it :)

22:00:37 jurov: ain't this the first irc chan with a secretary?

22:00:47 bitcoinpete: and the largest!

22:00:51 bitcoinpete: and the bestest!

22:01:01 bitcoinpete: and quite possible the last

22:01:58 fluffypony: AND A PHONE NUMBER!

22:02:00 bitcoinpete: and yes, we have a wiki, it's just that sometimes its shelves overflow and i have to give those books a new home. on twitter

22:02:02 fluffypony: that makes it special

22:04:04 bitcoinpete: ;;ticker

22:04:06 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 524.91, Best ask: 525.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 525.0, 24 hour volume: 16609.27918938, 24 hour low: 492.65, 24 hour high: 528.87, 24 hour vwap: 513.000446896

22:06:30 jurov: !up MobGod

22:07:28 bitcoinpete: https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=BLISS << bwahahah

22:07:29 assbot: Havelock Investments

22:07:47 bitcoinpete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrQ40qUegg&feature=youtu.be

22:07:47 assbot: Bliss Devices - FPGA Demo of Scrypt ASIC Design (Official) - YouTube

22:08:46 bitcoinpete: "a proven track record of first-time-right ASIC design and production"

22:10:06 bitcoinpete: lol in the video, they mine auroracoin

22:12:28 thestringpuller: is fluffypony around?

22:12:31 thestringpuller: i need a hug

22:12:34 fluffypony: yes

22:12:36 *: fluffypony hugs thestringpuller

22:12:40 thestringpuller: YAAAAAAY

22:12:46 thestringpuller: rough day

22:12:52 thestringpuller: i did a git reset --hard before I committed

22:13:00 thestringpuller: and lost a days worth of work

22:14:59 fluffypony: omg

22:15:02 fluffypony: much hugs

22:15:06 fluffypony: need a dogecoin?

22:17:46 bitcoinpete: or a ripple?

22:18:35 fluffypony: now now

22:18:37 fluffypony: don't be insulting

22:18:41 fluffypony: Bitcoin Plus?

22:20:11 bitcoinpete: lol

22:20:54 bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/469603782402138115

22:20:55 assbot: How Education Drives Inequality Among the 99% http://t.co/8BQzfvLkbu via /WSJecon

22:21:17 bitcoinpete: derping about how education drives inequality. give me a fucking break

22:21:48 bitcoinpete: on a lulzier note: a bluetooth iphone app bbq meat thermometer is a thing

22:21:49 bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/469602550635708417

22:21:50 assbot: I haven't said "NO!" this many times in a row since watching The Machinest. http://t.co/aEVYZSsZpi

22:23:55 bitcoinpete: almost 10% of americans are worth saving

22:23:56 bitcoinpete: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/climate-science-is-a-hoax-big-oil-gop-god-say-so-2014-05-22?mod=wsj_share_tweet

22:23:57 assbot: Climate science is a hoax: Big Oil, GOP, God say so - Paul B. Farrell - MarketWatch

22:28:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94500 @ 0.00093293 = 88.1619 BTC [-] {6}

22:29:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 90 @ 0.04049552 = 3.6446 BTC [+] {5}

22:30:32 bitcoinpete: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/05/22/h-p-fiscal-second-quarter-earnings-call-live-blog/

22:30:33 assbot: H-P cutting additional 11,000 to 16,000 jobs; results accidentally posted on site: live blog - The Tell - MarketWatch

22:33:26 dub: bitcoinpete: -assets official position is siding with big oil fyi

22:33:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 40 @ 0.04 = 1.6 BTC [-]

22:34:29 dub: global warming is a scam, obama is causing the symptoms with his weather machine etc

22:34:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 43 @ 0.0057001 = 0.2451 BTC [-] {2}

22:35:11 bitcoinpete: dub: just industry looking out for industry

22:37:29 benkay: !up neilol

22:37:45 benkay: plenty of shit to burn errywhere

22:44:19 dub: if we run out of stuff we can burn all these lying scientists

22:44:56 fluffypony: I vote we throw the jew down the well

22:45:03 fluffypony: so my country can be free

22:46:28 dub: for DPRK!

22:48:58 *: dub is liking his new desk

22:50:48 fluffypony: dub: got an iPhone eventually?

22:50:53 fluffypony: :-P

22:52:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00093302 = 29.67 BTC [+]

22:53:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9832 @ 0.00093997 = 9.2418 BTC [+]

22:59:47 bitcoinpete: dub: what's so speshul about this new desk?

23:00:02 bitcoinpete: and if anyone has any office chair recommendations, shoot away!

23:01:17 fluffypony: SteelCase

23:01:25 fluffypony: I have a Leap WorkLounge atm

23:01:35 fluffypony: Gesture is good too

23:01:55 fluffypony: original Leap if you're into old school

23:01:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00459 = 0.3672 BTC [-]

23:05:19 bitcoinpete: yup worklounge looks freaking amazing

23:05:19 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

23:05:26 bitcoinpete: lol got me

23:05:34 bitcoinpete: kinda need one of those now

23:05:46 bitcoinpete: working w/o a headrest is fucking criminal

23:11:13 benkay: working in a chair is fucking retarded

23:12:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 420 @ 0.095 = 39.9 BTC [+]

23:14:05 BingoBoingo: http://gothamist.com/2014/05/22/photo_finally_you_can_buy_a_911_che.php#.

23:14:05 assbot: This 9/11 Cheese Plate May Be The 9/11 Museum's Most Tasteless Souvenir: Gothamist

23:14:19 bitcoinpete: benkay: that kinda goes for working in front of a screen. period.

23:14:28 bitcoinpete: body ain't designed for this shit

23:14:45 dub: bitcoinpete: looks like http://www.betterlivingthroughdesign.com/images/tressel_table01.jpg, bigger and lighter than old one anyway

23:14:47 assbot: Page not found — Better Living Through Design

23:17:24 bitcoinpete: dub: eh, basic

23:19:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.095 = 1.235 BTC [+]

23:24:25 benkay: p. true.

23:24:29 benkay: bitcoinpete: ^^

23:25:05 benkay: and yet leveraging the mind requires making sacrifices of the body. my goal is to minimize those sacrifices with such things as standing desks.

23:25:25 benkay: i think i actually just want a fancy tv camera tripod and a custom-machined platter for my laptop.

23:25:50 joecool: i have found the man facebook needs as their CFO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefri_Bolkiah

23:25:50 assbot: Jefri Bolkiah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

23:28:33 bitcoinpete: benkay: much sacrifice. tell me more about this custom laptop set-up you envisage!

23:29:27 bitcoinpete: i have a standing desk too. find it tough on the knees/hips

23:31:10 bitcoinpete: also, audiobooks are pretty sweet

23:31:19 bitcoinpete: joecool: bossy

23:33:40 bitcoinpete: http://qz.com/211959/alibaba-and-jd-com-are-battling-for-a-huge-emerging-market-poorer-inland-china/

23:33:41 assbot: Alibaba and JD.com are battling for a huge emerging market: poorer, inland China – Quartz

23:42:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.095 = 2.66 BTC [+]

23:47:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 90 @ 0.095 = 8.55 BTC [+]