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00:01:02 BingoBoingo: fck, fxd

00:13:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00052713 = 7.4325 BTC [-]

00:46:45 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

00:46:51 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 267.83, vol: 20406.74343524 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 264.11, vol: 6273.13459 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 268.15, vol: 10550.98883348 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 280.99, vol: 8.03896163 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 273.201075, vol: 36568.74490000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 266.59313, vol: 102.92680149 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 263.06821305, vol: 153.76803476 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

00:46:53 BingoBoingo: ;;more

00:46:53 gribble: average: 270.202261592

00:47:01 BingoBoingo: OMG Crashing

00:50:26 mircea_popescu: o noes.

00:52:45 BingoBoingo: Prolly ought to twatter kill someone

00:59:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00053913 = 19.0313 BTC [+] {4}

01:12:45 asciilifeform: ...::once upon a time::...

01:12:58 *: asciilifeform opened a crate. and said to pet:

01:13:07 *: asciilifeform 'let's make the world's most useless pr0n'

01:13:23 asciilifeform: ...::a short time later::...

01:13:30 asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/endo.jpg

01:13:32 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LN0zG7 )

01:14:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34351 @ 0.00053256 = 18.294 BTC [-]

01:15:11 asciilifeform: idk if mircea_popescu ever tried this. but, just as i expected, it failed. minimal focus distance of the lens was not met.

01:18:11 BingoBoingo: lol

01:21:25 mircea_popescu: !up Lupul

01:22:12 Lupul: Bonjour, comment allez-vous?

01:22:13 mircea_popescu: lol wut the fuck is that asciilifeform

01:22:31 mircea_popescu: open air endoscopy ?

01:22:55 asciilifeform: open air vs what, l0l

01:23:06 asciilifeform: girloscopy.

01:23:09 mircea_popescu: mkay. external endoscopy ?

01:23:13 mircea_popescu: uh. you had a light source ?

01:23:41 Lupul: How do we check WoT rating?

01:23:48 mircea_popescu: !gettrust lupul

01:23:48 assbot: lupul is not registered in WoT.

01:24:05 Lupul: !gettrust mircea_popescu

01:24:05 assbot: Lupul is not registered in WoT.

01:24:14 mircea_popescu: lol

01:24:19 mircea_popescu: http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/mircea_popescu/ << can always use btcalpha.

01:24:23 assbot: mircea_popescu WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1LvZEIt )

01:24:43 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, led built into the instrument.

01:24:48 asciilifeform: (how else would there be a picture?)

01:25:11 mircea_popescu: what instrument was this i wonder ? oral endoscope does display the vagina.

01:26:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: chinese industrial endoscope.

01:26:37 mircea_popescu: ah.

01:27:14 mircea_popescu: try one of those things they stick up your nose next.

01:27:39 asciilifeform: this was (at least superficially) similar. hence the irresistible experiment.

01:27:43 mircea_popescu: aha

01:27:51 mircea_popescu: possibly cheaper lens / less tolerant

01:27:57 asciilifeform: worst possible lens.

01:27:58 mircea_popescu: i would guess it sees up to about 1cm

01:28:13 asciilifeform: actually it sees great ~beyond~ 1cm or so.

01:28:28 mircea_popescu: right

01:30:02 mircea_popescu: alternatively, you can take a plaster cast of your penis, embed cameras, fill it with silicone caulk, let it dry and have her fuck it.

01:30:05 mircea_popescu: art, definitely.

01:30:12 asciilifeform: eh that'd be work.

01:30:24 mircea_popescu: RNG!

01:31:09 *: asciilifeform vaguely recalls, many years ago, seeing this type of photo. somewhere.

01:31:24 mircea_popescu: i would bet the youboob's fulla them

01:38:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00053867 = 3.636 BTC [+]

01:42:11 Lupul: How can I register with WoT?

01:43:34 mike_c: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets#get-in-the-wot

01:43:35 assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1jULR5k )

01:48:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00053867 = 12.5241 BTC [+]

01:48:32 Duffer1: is B-A Helpdesk still a thing?

02:10:39 BingoBoingo: "shall have in his possession a hypodermic syringe, hypodermic needle, or any instrument adapted for the use of controlled substances or cannabis by subcutaneous injection." << Illolnois law, because apparently people shoot up cannabis?

02:15:40 mike_c: what if you have diabetes?

02:16:11 mike_c: i mean, then you *have* to shoot up cannabis, right?

02:16:38 mike_c: <ba-dum clash!>

02:18:01 BingoBoingo: Seriously

02:18:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65300 @ 0.00054125 = 35.3436 BTC [+] {5}

02:26:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00053935 = 3.8833 BTC [-]

02:47:19 BingoBoingo: http://thecodelesscode.com/case/211

02:47:20 assbot: The Codeless Code: Case 211 No Magic ... ( http://bit.ly/1hVtj3q )

02:47:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10169 @ 0.00053867 = 5.4777 BTC [-]

02:49:32 BingoBoingo: !up TravisPatron

03:02:04 TravisPatron: !register E465FB9F065F4BF966AF465407CC5D7C4A0208B8

03:02:04 assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: E465FB9F065F4BF966AF465407CC5D7C4A0208B8. This may take a few moments.

03:02:04 assbot: Key 4A0208B8 / "Travis Patron <travis@diginomics.com>" successfully imported.

03:02:05 assbot: Registration successful.

03:03:31 BingoBoingo: !rate TravisPatron 1 Newcomer, easy come easy go on the tits

03:03:31 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/d0168800fd8ddd2f

03:04:21 BingoBoingo: !v assbot:BingoBoingo.rate.TravisPatron.1:08121587c7718f4265ff2fbcfab661d538dde57d08ff0a09aa7f13648a1b6238

03:04:21 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for TravisPatron with note: Newcomer, easy come easy go on the tits

03:07:26 BingoBoingo: What brings you around here TravisPatron ??

03:17:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20659 @ 0.00053554 = 11.0637 BTC [-] {2}

03:22:08 BingoBoingo: !up TravisPatron Mebbe introduce yourself?

03:23:23 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 sadly, no.

03:24:07 mircea_popescu: TravisPatron so who're you ?

03:26:18 lobbes: he's a strong silent type

03:26:22 BingoBoingo: I think he has some sort of tiff with the Dushmaster. Easy come easy go.

03:27:28 hanbot: this guy https://travispatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/travis-patron.png

03:27:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NoHWHU )

03:27:35 hanbot: Patron has written industry-leading research on the opportunities and implications which come from cryptocurrency such as his recently published book Bitcoin: An Internet of Money which has been one of the most positively-received publications in the cryptocurrency space, garnering 5,000+ downloads to date as an educational and open-sourced research compilation.

03:29:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30950 @ 0.00054074 = 16.7359 BTC [+] {3}

03:29:07 mircea_popescu: oic.

03:33:38 *: TravisPatron waves hello

03:41:19 mircea_popescu: so here's a bizarre matter of fact : if one were to buy a dozen candles and emplace them on a windowsil, so that they're at different heights (say two inches differential tallest to shortest) and let them burn for a half hour or whatever it takes to finger a girl to exhaustion,

03:41:25 mircea_popescu: they will all burn at the same level.

03:41:49 mircea_popescu: candle consensus height wtf.

03:42:58 *: BingoBoingo has played with that before. Candlechain FTW

03:43:08 mircea_popescu: lol

03:43:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15322 @ 0.00053532 = 8.2022 BTC [-]

03:48:38 BingoBoingo: TravisPatron: If you've got questions about how voice works, try to keep it in the public channel. We're stangers after all.

03:50:01 BingoBoingo: TravisPatron: If you aren't sure how to use commandline GPG correctly, maybe just fire up emacs and let that handle finding things?

03:52:44 BingoBoingo: !up TravisPatron

03:56:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45765 @ 0.00053111 = 24.3062 BTC [-] {4}

03:59:43 BingoBoingo: Fuck, Steven Segal got fat

04:03:06 mircea_popescu: what was the alternative, cancer ?

04:03:45 BingoBoingo: Prolly. Either that or elected office.

04:05:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13839 @ 0.00053818 = 7.4479 BTC [+] {3}

04:13:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49655 @ 0.00053097 = 26.3653 BTC [-]

04:15:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45900 @ 0.00052997 = 24.3256 BTC [-] {5}

04:17:22 BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski

04:17:29 BingoBoingo: !up TravisPatron

04:17:40 BingoBoingo: Let the lulz begin!

04:18:12 pete_dushenski: bwahah indeed

04:18:37 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-07-2015#1187351 << wonder if gribble actually sent this one through lol

04:18:37 assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 21:08:55; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell travispatron you sucked before, you suck now, and you will always suck. enjoy the periphery, derp.

04:18:42 BingoBoingo: Also latest South Park, worth it

04:20:02 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2015#1305026 <--> http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/04/5-simple-rules-for-blogging-linking-to-sources-commenting-and-generally-making-sense-on-the-internet/ and http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/29/the-economics-of-sinking-garzikcoin-aka-bip-100/#footnote_6_5115

04:20:02 assbot: Logged on 22-10-2015 03:24:07; mircea_popescu: TravisPatron so who're you ?

04:20:03 assbot: 5 simple rules for blogging, linking to sources, commenting, and generally making sense on the Internet. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hVDNjr )

04:20:05 assbot: The economics of sinking Garzikcoin aka BIP 100. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1hVDQf5 )

04:20:44 pete_dushenski: honestly, i'm absolutely flabbergasted that 'travispatron' showed up here and registered a key. like someone pick me up off the floor plox.

04:21:04 BingoBoingo: He's voiced

04:21:30 pete_dushenski: and now that he's in your wot, he can self-voice too :)

04:21:48 BingoBoingo: For now, easy come easy go, as the line says

04:22:31 BingoBoingo: Figured maybe I'd be asleep and waking up to a convo in the logs would be a great way to start the morning

04:23:23 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2015#1305029 << pic looks 50x better than ripped-off 'bitcoin backs time' video i skipped through a few months back.

04:23:23 assbot: Logged on 22-10-2015 03:27:28; hanbot: this guy https://travispatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/travis-patron.png

04:23:56 pete_dushenski: TravisPatron: anyways, hello again.

04:24:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00054151 = 4.5487 BTC [+] {3}

04:26:01 pete_dushenski: TravisPatron: i see you've skipped numbers 1 and 2 and shot over straight to 3 and 4 from my last letter to you. any plans to rectify this oversight ?

04:26:36 pete_dushenski: namely, and i quote "1. Humbly submit before me, which is to say, drop the fake bullshit where you pretend like we’re equals and you play it all cool like I’m doing ~you~ some sort of favour by reading whatever shannonised shards you’ve cobbled together into sentences. 2. Acknowledge that the Internet most certainly has rules, and apologise publicly for your previous transgressions."

04:27:39 asciilifeform: watch it be some unrelated schmuck, going 'wtf'

04:28:17 pete_dushenski: lolz!

04:29:22 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: let him voice himself next time

04:29:51 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: He's gotta figure it out

04:29:55 pete_dushenski: i wanna see him step up the plate unassisted

04:31:06 pete_dushenski: up to*

04:33:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106600 @ 0.00054166 = 57.741 BTC [+] {6}

04:33:37 TravisPatron: pete_dushenski claims I stole his article entitled 'Does Time Back Bitcoin or Bitcoin Back Time'. In response, he posted a completely uncalled for comment on our website - I responded by giving him due attribution to his article because his article sparked my interest - far from plagiarism. He then continued with rude comments and posted a completely unprofessional article on his Contravex blog. The article I wrote was never stol

04:33:37 TravisPatron: en, it was completely original. All of our work at www.diginomics.com is original and will continue to be. The bitcoin community has many enemies. We do not need to be making enemies of one another. The actions of pete_dushenski demonstrate his character and it is one not needed in this industry.

04:34:54 BingoBoingo: TravisPatron: But you have to admit, you are kind of a stranger to the actual Bitcoin industry

04:36:58 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: you don't understand how the world works, bitcoin needs more professionalism and less making enemies of one another

04:37:17 BingoBoingo: "In my safe space..."

04:39:34 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2015#1305073 << except E465FB9F065F4BF966AF465407CC5D7C4A0208B8 matches the key from previous correspondence ;/

04:39:34 assbot: Logged on 22-10-2015 04:27:39; asciilifeform: watch it be some unrelated schmuck, going 'wtf'

04:39:58 liquidassets: investors don't even want to HEAR the word bitcoin anymore, you guyz are ruining it!

04:40:07 pete_dushenski: and yea, the above is sufficiently corroborating

04:40:29 pete_dushenski: liquidassets: how about nioctib ?

04:41:26 liquidassets: is that how it works on ebay now?

04:41:30 pete_dushenski: or pig latin : coinbitay

04:41:33 mircea_popescu: hm, is there drama ?

04:42:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.0005364 = 7.9924 BTC [-]

04:42:33 mircea_popescu: TravisPatron dun sweat it too much, i don't think pete_dushenski aims to be all that professional

04:42:36 mircea_popescu: whatever that may mean.

04:42:40 liquidassets: excited I got my first shares of mpoe today

04:43:45 liquidassets: but seems that it doesn't pay dividend anymore?

04:43:57 mircea_popescu: <liquidassets> investors don't even want to HEAR the word bitcoin anymore, you guyz are ruining it! << said investors' daughters coming up next.

04:45:25 pete_dushenski: bbias

04:47:20 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 362 @ 0.00426175 = 1.5428 BTC [+] {5}

04:51:41 pete_dushenski: back

04:52:35 liquidassets: They'll make faster learners MP

04:52:54 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2015#1304916 << ;)

04:52:54 assbot: Logged on 21-10-2015 23:09:42; mircea_popescu: quite exactly.

04:53:24 mircea_popescu: experience seems to indicate.

04:53:25 liquidassets: woman seem to in general be faster learners

04:54:00 mircea_popescu: bitcoin needs ustard "investors" like isis needs a shipment of dildos.

04:55:01 pete_dushenski: i bet a few of them have mpex keys

04:55:18 pete_dushenski: i mean seats

04:56:03 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Buttcoin loves U too https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3pohex/london_school_of_economics_shits_on_bitcoin_vc/

04:56:04 assbot: London School of Economics Shits on Bitcoin VC Investments : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBDed0 )

04:56:07 liquidassets: fuck they want anyway, I'm so tuned out with the latest

04:58:07 pete_dushenski: why the fuck is there that some 'citigroup' banner glued to the bottom of r/buttcoin ?

04:58:27 mircea_popescu: must be comedic.

04:58:59 pete_dushenski: "It's hilarious that they also think Lawsky left due to the outrage from the bitcoin community.." mkay

04:59:20 mircea_popescu: haha who thinks this ?

04:59:20 BingoBoingo: Because citigroups has as little to do against buttcoin as it can Bitcoin

04:59:28 mircea_popescu: lawski left because i canned his dumb ass.

04:59:37 pete_dushenski: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3pohex/london_school_of_economics_shits_on_bitcoin_vc/cw855cl

04:59:38 assbot: mikeyouse comments on London School of Economics Shits on Bitcoin VC Investments ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBDzfN )

05:00:19 *: mircea_popescu is too lazy to click on reddit because wutevs.

05:01:09 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the assbot feed is all you need : 'mikeyouse' is your answer

05:01:38 mircea_popescu: nick doesn't ring a bell

05:01:54 pete_dushenski: he's no stubnuts

05:02:39 BingoBoingo: Not mine

05:03:28 pete_dushenski: !s stubnuts

05:03:28 assbot: 3 results for 'stubnuts' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=stubnuts

05:05:11 pete_dushenski: TravisPatron: pete_dushenski claims I stole << ftr you plagiarised, which is to stealing what not calling your sister back is to taking her virginity

05:05:54 mircea_popescu: waitwut

05:06:38 pete_dushenski: which part ?

05:07:20 mircea_popescu: any of it.

05:09:38 BingoBoingo: Apparently a bunch of lamestream journos fell for http://nbc.com.co/yelp-sues-south-park-for-10-million-over-episode/ << note the .co

05:09:40 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBEPzL )

05:09:54 mircea_popescu: "The purpose of the note isn't to convey information, it is to convey mood, and the seemingly random and contradictory positions he takes on issues is all in an attempt to win you, the reader, over to his side. He knows for sure he is angry, he knows for sure he feels wronged, but he can't logically and realistically link the real world events to his level of anger."

05:10:00 BingoBoingo: ;;google south park sued by yelp

05:10:00 gribble: Yelp Sues South Park For $10 Million Over Latest Episode - NBC ...: http://nbc.com.co/yelp-sues-south-park-for-10-million-over-episode/; No, Yelp Is Not Suing 'South Park' for $10 Million - Eater: http://www.eater.com/2015/10/21/9582228/yelp-not-suing-south-park-for-10-million-satire-hoax; FALSE: Yelp Sues South Park for $10 Million Over Latest Episode ...: (1 more message)

05:10:02 mircea_popescu: ok, tlp fucks up the joe stack thing something incredible.

05:10:06 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/02/the_rage_of_the_average_joe.html <<

05:10:07 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Rage Of The Average Joe ... ( http://bit.ly/1LBO0xp )

05:10:52 mircea_popescu: whole lotta "nothing can justify killing so lalalala i can't hear you whatever you say is gonna be 'can't logically and realistically link' blabla!11"

05:12:21 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: ok so travispatron grabbed a quote from an article of mine without proper attribution or link. i wouldn't have known had he not left a comment on my original article with an embedded link back to his rip-off. the gall. anyways, i do up an 'unprofessional' article clarifying the do's and don't of blogging and commenting. he continues to ostrich. life goes on for another few months. he hoity-toitel

05:12:21 pete_dushenski: y asks me for feedback on an article. i tell him do 1-2-3-4 and we'll talk. no answer. more time passes. then he shows up here with 'pete said i stole but i didn't', which i happen to agree with. he plagiarised.

05:12:41 mircea_popescu: so then he linked and whatever, isn't disputing you inspired him or w/e ?

05:13:58 pete_dushenski: all's well but the claim that 'pete said i stole', for whatever that's worth, which probably isn't much truth be told

05:14:22 pete_dushenski: so ya, all good

05:15:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39206 @ 0.00053679 = 21.0454 BTC [+] {5}

05:15:48 mircea_popescu: gotta loosen up petey.

05:16:05 pete_dushenski: ha, tell me something i don't know

05:16:59 pete_dushenski: being around this much crying isn't without consequences !

05:17:20 *: pete_dushenski doesn't actually have it that bad...

05:17:31 mircea_popescu: you ever seen daisy diamond ?

05:17:44 pete_dushenski: possibly but the name doesn't ring a bell

05:17:58 mircea_popescu: well, if you wanna rattle mrs dushenski, sit her down for that flick.

05:18:26 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2011/daisy-diamond/ (romanian, tho.)

05:18:27 assbot: Daisy Diamond on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBFOzM )

05:19:44 pete_dushenski: i'll keep that in my back pocket in case a particularly mundane stretch of parenting should eclipse :)

05:20:17 *: BingoBoingo still hopes to be around in five years when pete_dushenski decides on boarding school as the appropriate course for young Pantagruel's Kindergarten

05:20:31 pete_dushenski: haha!

05:20:51 pete_dushenski: what am i, british ?

05:20:51 BingoBoingo: How else is he going to have to opportunity to tap dat teacher ass?

05:21:11 BingoBoingo: Candadian with is exactly british. The Royal cunt is still on your money.

05:21:32 pete_dushenski: s/money/toilet paper

05:22:01 BingoBoingo: Still more British than Scotland, which at least talks publically of leaving.

05:23:44 pete_dushenski: ftr the only 'mrs. dushenski' in this city is one of my aunts. not even in meatwot as i rarely see her.

05:23:58 mircea_popescu: o you're not even weddified ?!

05:25:30 pete_dushenski: au contraire, i just don't play with wimminz who aren't sufficiently independent and self-made to warrant losing their maiden names !

05:25:31 BingoBoingo: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/155042994/marshawn-lynch-financial-advice-seahawks << Sports media is censoring the part where Beast Mode is pro-Bitcoin. More quality USD likely coming into Bitcoin from Athletics than Silicon Valley.

05:25:32 assbot: Marshawn Lynch is doling out financial advice to teammates. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBGMvY )

05:25:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.0005407 = 8.3809 BTC [+] {3}

05:25:59 mircea_popescu: intereskin.

05:27:05 BingoBoingo: Marshawn is interesting, too short to get hit that hard in the head. Kinda like Bernard Hopkins in the way he fucks with reporters.

05:29:11 BingoBoingo: An extra inch and a half of height and he'd probably be as crippled as the former running backs his age. Even if he till he's that beat to retire still likely got more left in his head than fucking Altman.

05:30:13 BingoBoingo: Does the vague "I like Bitcoin" thing instead of the Mike Tyson "I need to keep the heat on this winter, and scamzors are paying" thing.

05:31:24 BingoBoingo: Still doesn't lurk here so probably getting scammed in at least 1 shart up

05:32:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00054143 = 10.7203 BTC [+]

05:33:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00053267 = 3.8352 BTC [-]

05:34:57 pete_dushenski: http://delicioustacos.com/2015/09/12/id-rather-watch-hitler-rape-my-mom-than-date-a-woman-my-own-age/

05:34:58 assbot: I’d Rather Watch Hitler Rape My Mom Than Date a Woman My Own Age | delicioustacos ... ( http://bit.ly/1GVrLNz )

05:35:46 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/01/the_massacre_of_the_unicorns_i.html << omfg this is the epiphany of all time. observe this insanity at work :

05:35:48 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Massacre Of The Unicorns II ... ( http://bit.ly/1GVrR7N )

05:35:48 BingoBoingo: http://thebulletin.org/japan-should-restart-more-nuclear-power-plants8817 << Or Maybe Japan is completely unsuited for electricty generation at all

05:35:50 assbot: Japan should restart more nuclear power plants | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists ... ( http://bit.ly/1GVrOJ7 )

05:36:30 mircea_popescu: 1. what is depression ? uhhhh ; 2. do you know how they measure it ? hamiltonian scale. most of which is sleep loss and weight loss. ; 3. do you know what zyprexa is ? "antidepressant", aka a sedative that fattens you.

05:36:52 mircea_popescu: jesus fucking christ this is going to be my go-to test-taking optimization example from now on.

05:39:37 BingoBoingo: 3. do you know what zyprexa is ? "antidepressant", aka a sedative that fattens you. << Only a thing, because the tend is nao labeling "depression" as "bipolar depression" when patients are a pain so this a the excuse to stick them on an anti-manic/anti-psychotic like zyprexa. Get them outta the civilized clinic and into the medicaid one

05:40:13 mircea_popescu: aha.

05:40:56 mircea_popescu: im not disputing that the system works within its own logic. i'm merely saying, that "logic" is neither self aware nor to be approached like a human endeavour. it's monkey business, bring chisels.

05:41:53 BingoBoingo: Olanzapiene (trade name: Zyprexa) is approved for acute mania, which in clinical practice turns into Bipolar in general. The side effects it shares with Haldol are gentler with Zyprexa, but introduces new ones like Da Beetus.

05:42:10 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That is an insult to monkeys

05:42:32 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGQmdoK_ZfY << monkey business

05:42:33 assbot: The Monkey Business Illusion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBIjSC )

05:42:33 mircea_popescu: but diabethes is good for you. moar checks.

05:43:03 BingoBoingo: Different doctor though takes the money for treating the Beetus

05:43:20 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo just between you and me and anyone who might care to listen in, i don't like monkeys. none, at all. would not object to a plan to exterminate all monkey types, nor do i see much value in preservation of images, records and such.

05:44:21 BingoBoingo: I'm indifferent to monkeys. Part of me says lets get rid of this disease vector. Another part wonders what they did to me other than Obola.

05:44:32 mircea_popescu: all through the "endangered gorillas" craze of the 90s all i could think was "these people seriously need better hobbies"

05:45:31 BingoBoingo: Gorillas are funny though in an ironic sense. 800 lb primates with inch and a half cocks and abrely any balls. Basically US police officers. Carl Mark Force IV in the fur.

05:46:13 mircea_popescu: i also don't happen to think that "anthropology" conducted on the various types of monkey has any value whatsoever. it's roughly on the level of freud's practice, bored rich impotent folk want to play with their cock "elevatedly".

05:46:36 mircea_popescu: sure, they have some value as rat substitutes for biological/biochemistry research. not much from what i can tell, rats are cheaper and faster.

05:47:06 mircea_popescu: other than that, "studying" monkeys to "understand" people is not unlike bugging the neighbour's appartment to "understand" why your wife cheated on you.

05:47:20 BingoBoingo: Mice faster still. Occasionally dogs and bunny rabbits, make still more specific targets than apes.

05:47:25 mircea_popescu: different fucking houses yo. and the usual ignorance with "we descended from monkeys" is particularly poignant.

05:47:36 mircea_popescu: no, we did not. both monkeys and us descdended from the same thing. which was not a monkey.

05:47:55 BingoBoingo: We didn't "descend" from them. We split after an angry christmas holiday.

05:47:56 mircea_popescu: but otherwise, chimps and people evolved the same time interval, and separately. so go ask geese, for the same money.

05:48:43 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> other than that, "studying" monkeys to "understand" people is not unlike bugging the neighbour's appartment to "understand" why your wife cheated on you. << Makes the basis of a number of pulp murder mysteries.

05:48:52 mircea_popescu: sure sure, and king kong.

05:48:56 mircea_popescu: i never saw it.

05:49:53 BingoBoingo: My narrative of the split is that brother chimp was happy with just taking the jungle fruit welfare, and brother man decided fuck that and made the ground his bitch inventing agriculture.

05:50:55 mircea_popescu: there's a huge gap between the split and agriculture. you're missing the voice, pastoral life, a lot.

05:51:26 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-bicameral-world-in-one-room-the-city-dump-in-the-other-room-the-starred-restaurant-do-these-talk-to-each-other-read-on-to-find-out/ << voice. big deal.

05:51:27 assbot: The bicameral world : in one room, the city dump. In the other room, the starred restaurant. Do these talk to each other ? Read on to find out! on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBJba1 )

05:51:29 BingoBoingo: Then again Romanian education presented to mircea_popescu the blowjob slut bonobo as the "chimp" and cannibal violence machine is presented in Anglophone culture as the chimp.

05:51:58 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's the way of over there. ro notion of bear is mostly "this cute thing".

05:52:04 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's a huge gap between the split and agriculture. you're missing the voice, pastoral life, a lot. << A lot, but fuckers didn't write shit down

05:52:42 BingoBoingo: Here bear alternates. Bear you can punch and Bear you can't punch co-exist.

05:53:49 BingoBoingo: But still here all cats of a certain size are still on the walk away and buy a big dog list.

05:56:28 BingoBoingo: Then again in parts of south Asia Elephants are friendly tractors until they need to get their nut off and turn into murder machines

06:00:16 mircea_popescu: from what i gather the latter behaviour is mostly human-reactive.

06:00:33 mircea_popescu: much like the teenager is only "unruly" if dumbass anette bening of a mother keeps getting in the way,

06:00:42 BingoBoingo: Could be.

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06:14:12 BingoBoingo: "Pierre Eymard and friends were studying novel antieplieptics, and used dipropylacetic acid (a solvent) as both an intravenous vehicle for the drug, and as placebo. They observed that the placebo worked, too, preventing seizures at the higher concentrations. If this had been a phenotype without visible effects, it would have been a perfectly ordinary conclusion that drug was not better than dipropylacetic acid-- aka Depakote"

06:15:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45250 @ 0.00053267 = 24.1033 BTC [-] {2}

06:17:39 BingoBoingo: "In order for it to be successfully rebranded, everyone who learned it the other way has to die."

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06:36:16 BingoBoingo: IGN was never good, but they made the never list. If you have literally anything better to do with your time than monkeythropology skip https://archive.is/ptmkk

06:36:17 assbot: South Park: "Safe Space" Review - IGN ... ( http://bit.ly/1MaxcQl )

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07:24:52 punkman: https://twitter.com/WholeFoods/status/657029500354453507

07:28:22 BingoBoingo: punkman: I think they got the season long storyline thing down now after trying it last year.

07:31:27 punkman: BingoBoingo: what was last season's theme?

07:31:43 BingoBoingo: Social media narcissism

07:32:02 punkman: this season is not bad so far

07:32:04 BingoBoingo: Less coherent though

07:32:27 BingoBoingo: This season as a whole I think so far matches their best single episodes in the bast

07:32:32 BingoBoingo: *past

07:33:42 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CZe5DXeYzw look ma no hands!!!11

07:33:43 assbot: Tesla Model S version 7 Autopilot Speeding Ticket Auto Steering Demo on Streets, Highway, Traffic - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1jVdOtK )

07:35:03 BingoBoingo: Tesla pretty much killed all its PR goodwill in a week

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10:50:20 kakobrekla: !rate newsbtc -1 rats

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11:34:32 jurov: https://www.facebook.com/ExtremeFarm/videos/896232443785948/

11:34:33 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OUnD6U )

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11:36:18 kakobrekla: Flash Unavailable - We are having trouble playing this video.

11:36:52 jurov: nothing important anyway

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14:19:03 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

14:19:04 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.8, Best ask: 275.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 275.82, 24 hour volume: 24411.82846246, 24 hour low: 267.13, 24 hour high: 279.97, 24 hour vwap: None

14:21:27 shinohai: $275 O.o

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15:17:20 shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/LtNriik.png <<< truth

15:17:20 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LI29FT )

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15:30:34 mod6: The Bitcoin Foundation is one year old today. Happy Birthday!

15:32:24 mircea_popescu: happy bday!

15:35:23 shinohai: \o/

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15:46:47 ben_vulpes: my how time flies

15:47:15 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: my own personal uranium mines

15:47:45 ben_vulpes: shinohai: tolerate schmolerate

15:48:02 ben_vulpes: do you just let the toilet leak?

15:48:49 shinohai: Nothing duct tape can't fix.

15:50:08 ben_vulpes: duct tape can't fix steel beams.

15:52:46 mircea_popescu: where's that engineering fixkit

15:52:52 mircea_popescu: "does it move ? should it ?"

15:56:04 shinohai: Vagina is dry, little wd-40 mebbe.

15:56:30 ben_vulpes: i just glare

16:02:50 ben_vulpes: shinohai: a woman recently told me that "caring for her family was the most rewarding job [she'd] ever had"

16:03:00 ben_vulpes: why is that attitude so uncommon?

16:03:57 mircea_popescu: does it move ? yes -> should it ? yes no problem / no -> duct tape | no -> should it ? yes wd40 no - >no p[roblem

16:04:15 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes because it makes zero fucking sense. it is not a job.

16:04:39 mircea_popescu: the only people who go "sitting quietly in the car is the best car driving they ever did" are mentally ill 15 yos.

16:04:57 mircea_popescu: who a) should not be driving ; b) want to be driving ; c) can't find a sane way out of this.

16:05:23 ben_vulpes: what the work of cooking and cleaning and throwing dinner parties isn't work somehow?

16:05:29 mircea_popescu: it is not.

16:05:42 mircea_popescu: if you think it is, train a slave to do it at home, try to hire a brutha to do it at your diner.

16:05:47 mircea_popescu: see how they compare, see why.

16:06:05 ben_vulpes: sounds like quite a lot of work to me

16:06:11 mircea_popescu: work != job.

16:06:18 mircea_popescu: labour != value

16:06:19 mircea_popescu: etc etc.

16:06:58 ben_vulpes: i value the place's cleanliness, tidiness and general quality of things and food around

16:07:05 mircea_popescu: good for you!

16:07:31 mircea_popescu: but the POINT of jobs is for the employees to be fungible. the point of house slaves is for the slaves to be the opposite of fungible.

16:07:44 ben_vulpes: aha, this

16:07:56 mircea_popescu: among other many things. they're really orthogonal things.

16:08:10 mircea_popescu: why the fuck would the woman have to apologize for not being retarded by calling what she does ia job is beyond me.

16:08:53 ben_vulpes: *parser error*

16:09:10 mircea_popescu: "caring for her family was the most rewarding job [she'd] ever had" aka "my domestic slavery is a much more fulfilling, pleasant and empowering personal situation than your job will ever hope to get". that's what it is.

16:09:21 mircea_popescu: "o but we decided slavery is bad". yeah, like ballas decided killing is never right.

16:09:25 shinohai: Sounds like my ex wife for sure.

16:09:27 ben_vulpes: perhaps (iiuyc) it's the american tic of 'job'.

16:09:38 mircea_popescu: deeper than that. it's the american tic of raceysm.

16:09:45 ben_vulpes: wuthao

16:09:52 shinohai: Fulfilling because her fat American ass wasn't going to do any of that.

16:11:39 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how does 'raceysm' figure into this

16:12:32 mircea_popescu: because "raceysm" is the shorthand for a social convention, that's on one hand nonsensical, and on the other precludes people who are slaves from addressing their slavery as such. it must be called something else. because lo and behold, a person who does work for no pay at the behest of her masters is now "in a job" hurr durr.

16:12:51 mircea_popescu: what's wrong with just introducing yourself as "domestic slave" ? oh, i saw that in a film once. better call it "housewife"

16:13:02 mircea_popescu: o wait no, that's bad also. gotta call it what, motherjob now ?

16:13:05 ben_vulpes: aheyheahuhea

16:13:14 ben_vulpes: tis one of the jobs alf would kill for

16:13:28 mircea_popescu: except it's not a job and so he can't have it.

16:13:31 ben_vulpes: "i don't care how long you sleep or how long it takes you but this place better be clean and my underwear rolled in that drawer"

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16:13:43 ben_vulpes: 'jobs'

16:13:49 mircea_popescu: see how the culture subtly ensures people are unhappy ?

16:14:04 mircea_popescu: he can't see all this because reasons, of the TYPE of the reason that's "raceysm" even if not exactly identical.

16:14:12 ben_vulpes: he's a russian, they're genetically already ensured to be unhappy

16:14:27 mircea_popescu: no, they're genetically ensured to be wistful.

16:14:32 mircea_popescu: they gotta be unhappy on their own dime.

16:16:02 ben_vulpes: mother, another unfungible role.

16:16:08 mircea_popescu: "oh but being a slave is bad!11". sure. except if you believe this someone will extract value out of you by calling it something else. "but i already do that, you think this brand name medicine is worth the difference from generics ?" right-o.

16:16:29 ben_vulpes: yeah but i also don't care to have that conversation every single day

16:16:34 mircea_popescu: exactly.

16:16:48 mircea_popescu: "son, your mother has cancer. here's a line-up of applicants for the job."

16:16:49 ben_vulpes: "wife" works around here.

16:17:11 mircea_popescu: i have the blessed chomsky advantage. apparently this is rare, but, i don't mind bothering people.

16:17:53 ben_vulpes: chomsky advantage?

16:18:13 mircea_popescu: yeah. not giving a shit about having the same conversation with different dumb people every day.

16:18:39 mircea_popescu: (more precisely : not giving enough of a shit to cave - mowing down the dumb people doesn't count.)

16:20:23 ben_vulpes: strikes me as a colossal waste of time, but then again i'm not a fantastically wealthy financier.

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16:21:10 ben_vulpes: my domain is small and the fields need working if we are to eat through the winter.

16:21:16 *: ben_vulpes to the mines

16:21:44 mircea_popescu: and getting back to slavery (as a historical consturct this time) and the subtle perversion of culture : in the ten billion discussions of how badly antebellum slaves had it that point out that they were being educated (misrepresented as "beatings" and horror, of course), how many stop to point out that a) they didn't starve periodically like their northern counterparts and b) if they behaved had lifetime, even GENERAT

16:21:44 mircea_popescu: IONAL security ?

16:22:03 mircea_popescu: "oh, slavery meant immunity from foreclosure ?" "be a good non-slave jobsman and don't thionk about that!"

16:22:28 mircea_popescu: "wait, for them and their grandkids ? my family was foreclosed on five times in three generations! " "don't you have it so much better ? FORTY ACRES AND A MULE!!1"

16:23:54 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it is a collosal waste of time. the problem with time however is that it can be but wasted - whatever you do with it can not be traded for the time it took. not at a profit, not at all. so... waste, all of it anyway.

16:24:26 mircea_popescu: but yes, i agree, it's a waste.

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16:50:01 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

16:50:08 ascii_field: from the lulzatron: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/jimmy-carter-offers-help-for-russias-bombing-campaign-in-syria

16:50:10 assbot: Jimmy Carter Offers Help for Russia’s Bombing Campaign in Syria - Washington Free Beacon ... ( http://bit.ly/1NWq36r )

16:52:09 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2015#1305336 << wai wut.

16:52:09 assbot: Logged on 22-10-2015 16:13:14; ben_vulpes: tis one of the jobs alf would kill for

16:54:16 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-10-2015#1305362 << nobody abolished slavery, ever. but a few generations of ascendant industrial degenerates ~did~ find a way to dispense with the parts they disliked - the ones where you have to actually care for your pets

16:54:16 assbot: Logged on 22-10-2015 16:22:03; mircea_popescu: "oh, slavery meant immunity from foreclosure ?" "be a good non-slave jobsman and don't thionk about that!"

16:54:43 mircea_popescu: aha.

16:55:00 mircea_popescu: which is stupid in the first place. it's like dispensing with the part of your food that you don't like - where it nourishes you.

16:55:04 mircea_popescu: well done Anorexia!

16:55:13 ascii_field: hey they also did this.

16:55:40 ascii_field: (in usa, one can buy, e.g., potato chips, that emerge straight from your arse chemically unchanged)

16:57:12 mircea_popescu: olestra ftw!

16:57:29 mircea_popescu: anywya, more power for them, glhf, all that.

16:57:38 thestringpuller: vmware all hands on employee meeting starts

16:57:42 thestringpuller: stock plummets

16:57:56 ascii_field: that long-awaited dream of hyoomankind, the arse-mouth-system, is not far.

16:58:05 ascii_field: plug in the hose, 'eat' all you like.

16:58:39 thestringpuller: human centipede?

16:59:04 ascii_field: human perpetuum mobile.

16:59:45 lobbes: or poop back into bag, re-sell as 'locally sourced'

17:00:02 ascii_field: !b 5

17:00:03 assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2S9YM6C.txt )

17:00:56 thestringpuller: "hey guise don't sell your stock" - to the employees, while all big investors sell out

17:03:13 mircea_popescu: big investors are not necessarily useful signal.

17:08:00 thestringpuller: mos def. but i find it scandalous if you use employees as bagholders...

17:08:49 mircea_popescu: certainly.

17:09:26 mircea_popescu: that's the problem with finance, and stock warrants and such. they gotta make up their own minds. which means think.

17:09:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.00054669 = 9.0204 BTC [-]

17:10:55 thestringpuller: yea, the employee stock plan, (giving us bonuses in stock, and offering pre-tax paycheck stock purchases), is essentially a stock warrant. i'm not invested in it, cause most of these companies tend to use employees as bagholders.

17:12:29 mircea_popescu: well properly speaking, most of these companies are not companies with employees, they're more like work clubs or some sort of co-op.

17:12:40 mircea_popescu: you're only a bagholder inasmuch as the shit you made wasn't worth anything anyway.

17:12:59 mircea_popescu: (which is almost always the case, which is why SV loves to "pay" in equity)

17:16:08 mircea_popescu: deedbot- https://xotika.tv/static/report_06102015_v2.html.asc

17:16:09 assbot: XOtika.TV Statement - 08/06/2015 to 06/10/2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NWsW7h )

17:16:12 deedbot-: accepted: 1

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17:37:34 mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/J2ZkS#selection-623.68-623.103 << i lolled. Naphex that dude seriously didn't manage to repo his own servers ?

17:37:35 assbot: btcXchange.ro - The first Bitcoin exchange in Romania ... ( http://bit.ly/1Krkjdd )

18:06:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00053567 = 4.0175 BTC [-]

18:22:50 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:23:17 ascii_field: phun phakt: systemd HARD FREEZES a box with no chance of recovery if it runs into just about ANY issue at boot time.

18:29:37 ascii_field: unrelated (or not!) - http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/math.jpg

18:29:38 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1XmIu5M )

18:33:47 BingoBoingo: Related

18:39:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00053535 = 18.5766 BTC [-] {2}

18:43:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36993 @ 0.00053811 = 19.9063 BTC [+] {3}

18:53:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00054449 = 2.5047 BTC [+]

18:58:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34750 @ 0.00053432 = 18.5676 BTC [-] {5}

19:00:32 fluffypony: https://aphyr.com/posts/322-call-me-maybe-mongodb-stale-reads

19:00:34 assbot: Call me maybe: MongoDB stale reads ... ( http://bit.ly/1jWCvG3 )

19:00:40 fluffypony: guize let's use Mongo for financial applications

19:00:44 fluffypony: it's totally safe

19:01:11 mircea_popescu: lol

19:04:26 mircea_popescu: ascii_field this behaviour is an improvement over windows' reboot cycle.

19:04:32 mircea_popescu: also without any chance of recovery.

19:04:53 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:05:06 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is actually an exact copy of 'bsod'

19:05:24 mircea_popescu: aha.

19:05:52 mircea_popescu: hey, it will drive linux adoption [to all the schmucks who will not run linux unless it's really windows]

19:06:42 ascii_field: the lulzy part is that i lost (for all intents & purposes) a whole physical box to this

19:07:23 ascii_field: (if there were a recovery prompt, as in normal sys5-style init, it would be fixable. as it is, whole thing - os lives on nand flash for which i haven't the emergency reflash clips - is a writeoff)

19:07:56 jurov: it does not have singleuser mode?

19:07:59 jurov: wow

19:08:02 ascii_field: not triggerable

19:08:19 mircea_popescu: why tghe fuck were you running it ?!

19:08:50 ascii_field: weird chip (similar to pogo) for which the only available os was a systemdized linuxlike

19:09:07 ascii_field: experimented with civilizing it.

19:09:13 mircea_popescu: well... you knew going in this is what will happen/

19:09:18 ascii_field: aha/

19:09:36 jurov: actually, you're supposed to pack everything you will need into initrd and use that

19:09:50 jurov: it ends up being half of /usr? whatever.

19:09:56 mircea_popescu: bwahahaha\

19:09:59 mircea_popescu: bet you it doesn't fit ?

19:10:07 ascii_field: funnily, thing still has a - nominally - functioning uboot. but mysteriously fails to load anything from any media whatsoever.

19:11:50 mircea_popescu: in other news, /me has a 5k sqft sunroof now.

19:11:57 mircea_popescu: ironically, /me also does not like tanned women.

19:12:16 ascii_field: how do you tan through glass ?

19:12:16 mircea_popescu: this is why you can't have nice things. i end up with them and i don't even like them.

19:12:33 mircea_popescu: no i mean, sunroof as in, a floor without a roof on top of the building.

19:12:41 ascii_field: ah

19:12:47 jurov: heh, no ivana trump for mp

19:13:00 mircea_popescu: certainly no 30yo washboards tyvm

19:13:25 mircea_popescu: you meant ivanka right ?

19:13:36 mircea_popescu: not her left-over-from-war czech mother or w/e

19:14:13 ascii_field: mircea_popescu is gonna love the retractable roof in ulan batur..

19:14:33 jurov: i remembered one tanned-to-dark-chocolate pic of her

19:15:23 jurov: http://www.poshpost.com/ivana-trump-at-62-still-looking-tanned-and-taut/

19:15:31 jurov: and darker

19:15:50 mircea_popescu: not my cuppa.

19:15:50 jurov: wtf page does not exist

19:16:11 jurov: http://s1131.photobucket.com/user/sigroid75/media/Posh%20Post/ivanatrump.jpg.html

19:16:12 assbot: ivanatrump.jpg Photo by sigroid75 | Photobucket ... ( http://bit.ly/1jWEREM )

19:16:29 jurov: "taut"

19:19:26 mircea_popescu: mmk.

19:27:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.0005441 = 20.3493 BTC [+]

19:28:19 jurov: anyway, at least you can start gardening there

19:28:49 jurov: make ersatz pampa from it :DDDD

19:29:48 mircea_popescu: while im pretty sure the roof will support a dozen lithe chicks seeing how i can lift them in pairs,

19:29:58 mircea_popescu: 500 tons worht of earth seems a tall order.

19:30:34 mircea_popescu: (gotta remember - it doesn't snow here. consequently, their ideas of tolerance is not 3.5 to 5x)

19:33:30 punkman: fluffypony: it's totally safe << seems like everything he tests is "totally safe", was reading his mysql/mariadb results earlier

19:33:46 fluffypony: yup

19:34:33 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: park chopper (or moor the dirigible) there.

19:35:44 mircea_popescu: fun fact : the private aviation airport is in a place caled moron.

19:35:49 mircea_popescu: they even have a moron factory there.

19:35:58 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

19:36:05 punkman: does it have moron school?

19:36:16 mircea_popescu: i expect also.

19:39:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00053035 = 17.5016 BTC [-] {3}

19:45:08 mod6: Does someone in here run the Bitcoin Error Log twitter acct?

19:45:38 mircea_popescu: i thought it was thickasthieves

19:45:53 mod6: ahh

19:48:09 mircea_popescu: "If I was a woman of, say, 30, overwhelmed by hidden ambivalence, making next to nothing while spending next to everything, simultaneously unfulfilled by my excellent material possessions while protected from facing my actual social position; if I had to choose a direction in life but realizing that my choice probably didn't matter because the outcome had already been decided by the audience, yeah, I'd be on Abilify, t

19:48:09 mircea_popescu: oo."

19:48:10 mircea_popescu: awww.

19:48:19 mircea_popescu: somehow it doesn't occur to him he really is watching too much fucking tv.

19:49:33 mircea_popescu: i have to google ALL his dumbass popculture references, and that is ALL i ever have to chase. somehow the medicine he knows, i know. fucking "gosselin" ? i actually have to look at a phrase going "Katie Irene "Kate" Gosselin (born Kreider; born March 28, 1975) is an American television personality. She achieved national and international recognition on the US reality TV show Jon & Kate Plus 8, in which she and Jon Goss

19:49:33 mircea_popescu: elin are profiled as they raise their atypical family of sextuplets and twins." when it really should read "that boring dumbass trying to make money out of televising her sextuplets" ?

19:50:45 ascii_field: aaaaand now mircea_popescu knows how it is like to have to look up his refs to 'seinfeld' etc.

19:51:15 mircea_popescu: hm

19:52:11 mircea_popescu: i guess you could readily say, seinfeld, baywatch, "dwfs" or whatever - i didn't look that one up, bite me - are the same thing.

19:52:12 thestringpuller: !b2

19:52:13 thestringpuller: ugh

19:53:27 thestringpuller: is it possible to watch too much TV in America? That's all there really is to do around here.

19:53:52 mircea_popescu: is it possible to load too much sand into your codpiece in sahara ? that's really all there is to load in your codpiece around there.

19:54:03 ascii_field: !b 2

19:54:04 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0HCXD2Y.txt )

19:54:10 *: ascii_field does not own a tv

19:54:40 mircea_popescu: i don't either. but i did study that show, like meade studied gorilla cock or whatever the fuck she studied.

19:55:25 thestringpuller: someone must really like seinfeld :P

19:55:49 thestringpuller: any love for curb your enthusiasm?

19:55:58 mircea_popescu: no, sadly. i liked it originally. by the time i was done i squarely didn't like it anymore.

19:56:39 mircea_popescu: i watched five minutes of that thing, mostly to evaluate the douche's (larry) contriobution to seinfeld. i fell upon this scene where a pubescent girl rings his doorbell and then gets her first period. and he behaves like a lunatic.

19:57:07 mircea_popescu: it was clear to me that the amount of money he made off seinfeld (~zilch) is actually a very correct evaluation of his actual contribution to the show.

19:57:32 mircea_popescu: which in and of itself is an unexpected result - when you think soaps you don't think "judicious remuneration of contributors" first and foremost.

19:57:42 mircea_popescu: but it is shockingly the foremost property of the whole shebang.

20:02:44 mircea_popescu: "As much as Sandra Bullock drives me insane I have never set fire to a trash can or impregnated a teenager because she made what is obviously way too much money for agreeing to be in the worst movies ever scripted by spider monkeys."

20:02:45 mircea_popescu: HA!

20:03:01 mircea_popescu: i fucking agree, that dumbass-that-s-not-to-be-named!

20:03:10 thestringpuller: wow. that's a great review of Curb your Enthusiasm...

20:03:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23734 @ 0.00053683 = 12.7411 BTC [+]

20:03:27 mircea_popescu: how many shows did they do anwyay? 100 hours ? 20 ? 200 ?

20:03:50 thestringpuller: 80 episode 30 min each

20:03:55 thestringpuller: so 40 hours?

20:04:00 thestringpuller: + 1 hour special

20:04:01 mircea_popescu: shoulda quit earlier. guy's a hack.

20:06:42 thestringpuller: !up ascii_field

20:07:12 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

20:10:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00053683 = 5.3683 BTC [+]

20:12:27 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/03/relative_income_inequality.html << and yet he fundamentally understands why socialism doesn't work, even if you purport to call it "humanism", and why the poor are fucked, and everything else. weird.

20:12:29 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Relative Income Inequality ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGYY10 )

20:15:15 thestringpuller: "It's not material self-interest, it's that we're so sensitive. We experience ourselves through each other's eyes--and that's the reason for the labels and the clothes and the cars" << not sure how I feel about that reference quote

20:15:34 mircea_popescu: how the fuck does Richard Wilkinson manage to look at the data showing that us blacks making $1k a month just for the asking nevertheless sit around poles like monkeys glaring at people ; whereas those same blacks living in brazil, making a quarter as much or less for 200+ hour work months go out and fix the swing in the park that they build for free in their spare time and decide there's something wrong "with society"

20:15:34 mircea_popescu: ?

20:15:45 mircea_popescu: some people are fucked in the head, that's all. this isn't socieity.

20:16:43 mircea_popescu: "oh, income equality". brazil has A LOT more of it than the us. in the us everyone is poor. i mean this, literally, there are NO RICH PEOPLE in the us. nobody is rich there. everyone is poor like a fucking dog, like the soviets were poor in 1980.

20:17:01 mircea_popescu: brazil has actual rich people. but it also has poor people who do not fucking expect to be on tv.

20:17:25 mircea_popescu: self-esteem education has resulted in a country that will be sold on the open market by the pound.

20:17:38 ascii_field: optimist.

20:17:47 ascii_field: it'll be sold by the cubic metre. of ullage.

20:17:51 ascii_field: for radwaste storage.

20:18:03 mircea_popescu: nobody is storing it.

20:18:45 mircea_popescu: "oh, google is a valuablke company because it has all the world's data". a) you are not the world ; b) nobody fucking wants your data, i'd rather keep footage of afids engaging in gang rape.

20:19:01 mircea_popescu: oh. ullage. heh.

20:19:14 mircea_popescu: i dunno man. the land itself is pretty.

20:19:24 mircea_popescu: unfortunately inhabited, but in the modern era that can be fixed.

20:21:52 mircea_popescu: "Wilkinson is not just another academic social policy theorist who references Marx; he is also the editor of the 2003 version of the WHO report on social justice. " ummm... aaaand who cares ?

20:22:13 mircea_popescu: five people read that thing, at most, and nobody asked them anything. he might as well have been the author of any other rejected nbc pilot.

20:24:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18269 @ 0.00053379 = 9.7518 BTC [-]

20:26:23 mircea_popescu: "The problem isn't the government, the problem is you. It is always you. "

20:26:36 mircea_popescu: right ? guy gets parts.

20:26:54 mircea_popescu: "You can't imagine how you, one guy, can be the problem-- the government is much bigger than you, isn't it? But there are millions of people exactly like you. One byproduct of modern narcissism's reliance on finite media is that countless other people are modeling their lives on the same template you are. You think you are unique in your thoughts and identity, turns out you are a clone. You think you're the only g

20:26:55 mircea_popescu: uy for whom X was transformative? The only guy with an iphone?"

20:29:09 ben_vulpes: i'd love to know what americans find transformative.

20:30:07 trinque: oprah, some.

20:30:12 ascii_field: dafuq does this even mean

20:30:21 mircea_popescu: american history x. american beauty. the matrix.

20:30:25 mircea_popescu: need i continue ? v for vendetta

20:30:32 mircea_popescu: that one song from that one band with the chick with the hair

20:30:34 trinque: Zeitgeist

20:30:38 mircea_popescu: obama wining the elections

20:30:53 mircea_popescu: arabs winning the only engagement on us soil since the brits left

20:31:21 mircea_popescu: ascii_field "figuring stuff out".

20:32:30 mircea_popescu: there's a great scene in donnie brasco where newell depicts the death of john wayne as transformative for those schmucks.

20:34:02 thestringpuller: it's sad that obama would probably win a 3rd term

20:34:25 trinque: how would that happen?

20:34:31 trinque: oh would, my mistake

20:35:41 mircea_popescu: i don't see the difference. obama 3rd term is probably a better outcome than trump vs hilary or w/e.,

20:46:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25466 @ 0.00053172 = 13.5408 BTC [-]

20:47:17 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> arabs winning the only engagement on us soil since the brits left << There was that other one the Japs won.

20:47:32 mircea_popescu: not really us soil, out in the pacific.

20:49:20 BingoBoingo: Well, I guess Hawaii wasn't quite US soil until after the war and even then moar volcanic ash than soil

20:50:45 mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/04/a_not_very_happy_observation_a.html << bwahahaha. so :

20:50:47 assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: A not very happy observation about +/- being a woman ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mcsf9B )

20:50:47 mircea_popescu: "My observation having done this several dozen times: If I use a (fake) male email address, e.g. "petermiller@" no one ever responds. If I use a (fake) female email address, e.g. "melissamiller@" I get answers almost every single time."

20:50:52 mircea_popescu: "I'll add that the majority of the people I email are male; the few women I've emailed haven't been any different. I've confirmed this by waiting a long time (month) and re-emailing a different (but still simple) version as a woman.

20:50:52 mircea_popescu: The conclusion I went to first was that there is some unconscious sexual element; not that the academics thought they were going to seduce me, of course, but that they derived some greater pleasure in answering the women than the men.

20:50:52 mircea_popescu: But perhaps there's a different explanation: there may be an assumption that if a guy asks such a basic/stupid question, then he's an idiot and not worth bothering with; but if a girl asks it, well, a college girl isn't held to the same standard/ expected to know as much."

20:51:35 mircea_popescu: how about the alternative explanation being "society as a whole thinks young males should die horribly in droves and fuck you already."

20:53:24 mircea_popescu: were THAT true, it would ironically make a move away from pervasive, entrenched gender inequality in favour of the males a deeply populist move.

20:53:45 mircea_popescu: by definition : that which favours the proclivities of many with no consideration given to effects.

20:54:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00053171 = 11.2723 BTC [-] {3}

21:06:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49250 @ 0.00053357 = 26.2783 BTC [+]

21:32:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24214 @ 0.0005337 = 12.923 BTC [+] {3}

21:33:38 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

21:33:40 ascii_field: http://www.finextra.com/news/fullstory.aspx?newsitemid=28004

21:33:41 assbot: Finextra: Finextra news: Sweden on course to be first cashless country ... ( http://bit.ly/1RZE3uF )

21:34:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4447 @ 0.00053661 = 2.3863 BTC [+] {2}

21:35:44 mircea_popescu: by which what they mean, of course, is "swedish government on course to be the first cashless government".

21:35:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19886 @ 0.00053171 = 10.5736 BTC [-]

21:36:25 shinohai: ;;rated Garmin

21:36:25 gribble: You have not yet rated user Garmin

21:53:07 deedbot-: [Qntra] Looking Behind BanxShares - http://qntra.net/2015/10/looking-behind-banxshares/

21:54:01 mircea_popescu: "(1) Hershey's, et al, petitioned the FDA and EU to allow them to change the definition of "milk chocolate" to allow for the substitution of vegetable oil for cocoa butter. The FDA said no, but the EU thought it would be awesome idea.

21:54:02 mircea_popescu: To emphasize: not simply change the ingredients, but to change the definition of the word."

21:54:04 mircea_popescu: heh.

21:54:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00053814 = 12.6463 BTC [+] {3}

21:54:14 mircea_popescu: then one wonders why you can't buy milk chocolate in the us.

21:55:25 mircea_popescu: in other news, Sumner Redstone still fucking exists. and nominally is in charge of things. (Chairman of National Amusements Executive Chairman of the Board of Viacom and CBS Corporation).

21:55:49 mircea_popescu: wanna bet some random conclave of derpy 40yo pencildick assistants do all the "being" sumner redstone ?

21:56:21 BingoBoingo: In other news congrats to HeySteve for his first Qntra publication

21:56:53 mircea_popescu: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/09/sumner-redstone-sydney-holland-kicked-out << hint : it was not that she dated niggers.

21:56:53 assbot: Why Sumner Redstone Really Kicked Sydney Holland Out | Vanity Fair ... ( http://bit.ly/1OLkbwY )

21:58:37 mircea_popescu: i can't from that piece discern what is supposed to be the revenue model of the banx thing.

21:58:41 mircea_popescu: how does it make money again ?

22:00:32 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo ok this is by very far the worst thing i have ever see qntra publish.

22:00:36 mircea_popescu: it does not belong there.

22:00:36 ascii_field: ^

22:00:43 mircea_popescu: "And yes, it'll be a damn shame if this backfires on BitShares. Their technology is extremely scalable, blazingly fast and impressively flexible on the backend."

22:00:48 mircea_popescu: what do these empty words mean ?

22:01:07 mircea_popescu: if i wanted to have more gawker fluffl i'd have bought fucking gawker.

22:01:20 mircea_popescu: "BANX represents a thus far dividend-paying investment in BanxCapital," << dividends out of what ?

22:01:26 BingoBoingo: Sorry I fucked up.

22:01:28 mircea_popescu: this is not news, and it's not even bad. it is terrible.

22:02:15 mircea_popescu: "My take on the ICO is that Lyford recognised multiple opportunities in Bitcoi" whose own take ? what the bloody hell|!

22:10:54 mircea_popescu: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/michael-dunn-sentenced-life-without-parole-loud-music-killing-n228191

22:10:55 assbot: Michael Dunn Sentenced to Life Without Parole for Loud Music Killing - NBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqpvCP )

22:11:48 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

22:12:00 ascii_field: evidently he oughta have killed the lot

22:12:10 ascii_field: 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb' (tm)

22:12:21 mircea_popescu: Michael Dunn, 47, was convicted of killing Jordan Davis, 17, in November 2012 after he shot into a SUV of four teenagers 10 times when an argument broke out over loud music coming from the teens' vehicle. Dunn was sentenced to an additional 90 years in prison for three attempted murder convictions and another 15 years for firing into an occupied vehicle. ?Our justice system works. This case demonstrates that our just

22:12:21 mircea_popescu: ice system does work,? said Judge Russell Healey at the sentencing.

22:12:53 mircea_popescu: but in related news, http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-cheese-addictive-drugs-20151022-story.html

22:12:54 assbot: Cheese really is crack. Study reveals cheese is as addictive as drugs - LA Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1NqpAGq )

22:12:57 mircea_popescu: "Study reveals cheese is as addictive as drugs"

22:13:15 mircea_popescu: im sure it is. this is actually a correct result. in other news, you wanna know how adictive "drugs" are ? CHEESE!

22:13:21 ascii_field: wait till we learn how addictive air is

22:17:56 shinohai: Fuck BitShares.

22:25:45 mircea_popescu: "Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, there is a whole, entire generation that never knew anything that didn't come out of this tube. This tube is the gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break presidents, popes, prime ministers. This tube is the most awesome goddamn force in the whole godless world. And woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong peopl

22:25:45 mircea_popescu: e." << and ballas' tv fixation is explained.

22:26:01 mircea_popescu: he reasons "people matter", and since "people are ignorant louts" ERGO "tv matters".

22:43:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43609 @ 0.00053041 = 23.1306 BTC [-] {5}

22:51:32 shinohai: !up assbot

22:51:36 shinohai: shit

22:51:40 shinohai: !up ascii_field

22:55:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00053641 = 10.8891 BTC [+] {3}

23:10:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39653 @ 0.00052978 = 21.0074 BTC [-] {3}

23:17:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42858 @ 0.00052707 = 22.5892 BTC [-]

23:19:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00052738 = 27.9511 BTC [+] {2}

23:37:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00052692 = 6.4284 BTC [-]

23:48:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26804 @ 0.00052831 = 14.1608 BTC [+]

23:50:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8446 @ 0.00053958 = 4.5573 BTC [+]

23:51:10 mod6: shinohai: haha, i've done that at least half-a-dozen times.

23:52:48 shinohai: ^_________^

23:52:57 mircea_popescu: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/economy/employment/2004-07-06-call-center_x.htm << this should be right alf's alley.

23:52:58 assbot: USATODAY.com - Inmates vs. outsourcing ... ( http://bit.ly/1W87bpt )

23:54:38 mircea_popescu: also, as much as i loathe pdfs, http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/SWEENEY.WALTON012308.pdf

23:54:39 assbot: Page not found | US Court of Federal Claims ... ( http://bit.ly/1W87jVZ )

23:54:57 mircea_popescu: inmates can't own copyrights of their own ideas while imprisoned because "they are in service of the state".

23:55:49 mircea_popescu: this obviously gives way to a very interesting twist : if you ever were in prison, it is the gov't's option to CLAIM that if you build a business, you didn't build a business - because you had come up with it during your stay and well, hid it from them. which should bring a fine, right ? on top of restitution, correct ?

23:56:17 shinohai: Interesting thought mircea_popescu

23:56:40 BingoBoingo: So if you sell drugs in prison, the government sold drugs in prison

23:57:24 shinohai: IRS expects you to pay taxes on illicit earnings whether you are legit or not

23:58:02 mircea_popescu: nono. immunity from detrimental, advantageous only.

23:58:32 mircea_popescu: if you invented the cure for cancer, the government invented the cure for cancer. if you got cancer ... well you shouldn't have been smoking now should you have!

23:58:41 mircea_popescu: "but i couldn't smoke anyway!" "exactly."

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