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00:01:23 mircea_popescu: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-nginx-on-centos-6-with-yum?comment=27577 << how to spread malware.

00:01:28 assbot: How To Install nginx on CentOS 6 with yum | DigitalOcean ... ( http://bit.ly/1bx2Qa5 )

00:01:28 mircea_popescu: get that final link in there.

00:02:10 mircea_popescu: http://nginx.org/en/linux_packages.html

00:02:10 assbot: nginx: Linux packages ... ( http://bit.ly/1bx301m )

00:02:16 mircea_popescu: Alternatively, a repository configuration can be added manually without installing the nginx-release package. Create the file named /etc/yum.repos.d/nginx.repo with the following contents:

00:02:16 mircea_popescu: [nginx]

00:02:16 mircea_popescu: name=nginx repo

00:02:16 mircea_popescu: baseurl=http://nginx.org/packages/OS/OSRELEASE/$basearch/

00:02:17 mircea_popescu: gpgcheck=0

00:02:19 mircea_popescu: motherfucker.

00:02:36 ascii_launchpad: l0l mircea_popescu is surprised ?

00:02:39 ascii_launchpad: this -is- sop.

00:02:46 mircea_popescu: im not surprised, i am displeased.

00:03:54 mircea_popescu: w/e, im just gonna buy more bw / burn more electricity.

00:03:59 mircea_popescu: i'm not goiing through this shit.

00:04:04 *: ascii_launchpad wonders how many of these 'beautiful surprises' it would take to make mircea_popescu a candidate for same nuthouse as ascii_launchpad

00:04:10 mircea_popescu: (btw, this is exactly how gentoo failed. ran out its time budget)

00:05:12 ascii_launchpad: mircea_popescu: actually gentoo failed (in the usual sense of the word) long ago when its head dev sold soul to microshit

00:05:21 ascii_launchpad: on account of, iirc, getting moietied

00:05:22 mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.

00:05:30 mircea_popescu: software itself runs great, packaging is the shit.

00:05:37 mircea_popescu: women in tech really dropped the fucking ball.

00:05:49 *: ascii_launchpad just walked by a 'women in tech' poster

00:06:37 mircea_popescu: there's about ten square miles of packaging needlework that needs doing, and the doers are all derping about consent or some stupid shit like that.

00:07:03 mircea_popescu: pronouns, whatever.

00:25:24 Pierre_Rochard: !up ascii_launchpad

00:25:53 ascii_launchpad: ty Pierre_Rochard. almost out of time though

00:26:06 pete_dushenski: scoop echad : http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/22/parenting-is-going-to-be-hard/

00:26:07 assbot: Parenting is going to be hard. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO4PvW )

00:26:09 ascii_launchpad: mircea_popescu: eventually folks will realize that it is -not- a needlework problem.

00:26:25 pete_dushenski: scoop shtayim : http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/22/usgavins-headless-body-moves-on-bitcoin-assets-moves-up/

00:26:27 assbot: USGavin’s headless body moves on, #bitcoin-assets moves up. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO4TMc )

00:26:36 ascii_launchpad: because it is not physically possible to breed and teach needleworkers fast enough to keep up with a complexity collapse.

00:26:36 Pierre_Rochard: ascii_launchpad: ah well don’t leave w/o taking a look at this: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2012/05/poo-machine-by-wim-delvoye.html

00:26:37 assbot: Poo Machine by Wim Delvoye | Amusing Planet ... ( http://bit.ly/1zO4Xvm )

00:26:49 ascii_launchpad: it is the whole definition of such a collapse, actually.

00:27:10 ascii_launchpad: no one can carry water in buckets within order of magnitude of how quickly the flames spread.

00:27:32 ascii_launchpad: for a while - it seemed possible, yes.

00:27:44 ascii_launchpad: 1980-2000 let's say arbitrarily.

00:28:10 ascii_launchpad: (from when it was mostly clear, to dijkstra et al that -this- would come, to, well, when the symptoms became impossible to ignore for anyone half awake)

00:32:04 pete_dushenski: "Delvoye stated that everything in modern life is pointless. The most useless object he could create was a machine that serves no purpose at all, besides the reduction of food to waste." << these intellectually poor artists and their purposes.

00:32:28 pete_dushenski: i'd love to know who funded this guy's eight years of 'research'

00:32:47 pete_dushenski: i want to guess that it was a government

00:33:10 Pierre_Rochard: pro-biotic yogurt company

00:33:13 pete_dushenski: ascii_countdown 'it's the final countdown'

00:34:03 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R9zN7o_s2Y

00:34:05 assbot: Arrested Development Best Scene Ever! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Huu0tP )

00:34:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0003185 = 5.5738 BTC [+]

00:34:18 pete_dushenski: Pierre_Rochard lol please tell me you're joking

00:34:34 mircea_popescu: ascii_launchpad> because it is not physically possible to breed and teach needleworkers fast enough to keep up with a complexity collapse. << it's not a complexity collapse. i know how to manage this problem, i've done it before.

00:34:49 mircea_popescu: if you got some needle work being done youy can use that fixed point to control "development" around it.

00:34:51 Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: haha yes, but this non-biologist doesn’t see why not! seems like the ideal controlled experiment machine

00:35:19 mircea_popescu: but if you got zero because women are fucktarded (because "men" are fucktarded boys) every ordinary anything looks like a fucking pulsar colliding with a supernova.

00:36:49 mircea_popescu: you really can't make shit without active bone marrow

00:36:51 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_pulsar

00:37:09 mircea_popescu: anyway ima go eat

00:37:11 pete_dushenski: Pierre_Rochard heh sure why not

00:37:11 mircea_popescu: BABIES

00:37:18 pete_dushenski: lol

00:37:22 ascii_pulsar: wut

00:37:29 Pierre_Rochard: bon appetit

00:37:36 ascii_pulsar: aha foodlings

00:37:47 ascii_pulsar: they crunch, crunch.

00:47:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84150 @ 0.00030836 = 25.9485 BTC [-] {4}

00:54:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00030689 = 8.5776 BTC [-] {3}

01:02:17 mircea_popescu: !up liquidassets

01:02:55 mircea_popescu: this is a thing nao ?

01:03:42 liquidassets: haven't caught up with logs since end of c3, felt I was missing out

01:04:33 mircea_popescu: lol

01:04:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.0003185 = 5.8445 BTC [+]

01:06:25 liquidassets: Iiquidassets was there!! << http://fraudsters.com/2015/views-from-a-conference/

01:06:25 assbot: Page not found on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1DPVrff )

01:07:24 mircea_popescu: aha.

01:07:39 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski "If you the historians write about you."

01:07:39 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:09:30 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/5f930017bebc54ed7b2723594a70d5f0/tumblr_n8xsxzmnYv1r8wl2xo1_1280.jpg

01:09:31 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DPW3BI )

01:09:56 liquidassets: MP can you elaborate on how you don't see bitcoin being retail anything? It seems your thoughts work more in eons, won't there will be an in between time where things might not be end game yet

01:10:35 mircea_popescu: bitcoin works for say fraudsters credits retail, whatcha talkin' aboot ?

01:10:47 mircea_popescu: !up jjj

01:10:52 liquidassets: when you see it...

01:11:29 mircea_popescu: hm ?

01:11:33 liquidassets: I can't remember when or where you said it, but it seems like you're pretty down on bitcoin being used for retail purchases

01:11:41 liquidassets: ...the plug..

01:12:05 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/#comment-92015 < there ?

01:12:06 assbot: Bitcoin prices, Bitcoin inflexibility on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkAywn )

01:12:27 liquidassets: the more I get into retail the more I want to incentivize bitcoin payments

01:12:41 mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with that.

01:13:10 mircea_popescu: the idea was that bitcoin isn't going to change to accomodate the retail market, principally because the retail market is (necessarily) much too small.

01:13:16 mircea_popescu: othere than that... if it works for you use it.

01:14:09 liquidassets: "People try to, because of the misguided belief that Bitcoin value is somehow related to or deriving from its crossection in the retail market" <<ok I"m starting to grok

01:17:43 trinque: liquidassets: what kind of retail are you considering?

01:18:01 liquidassets: it's a hobby store

01:19:01 liquidassets: mostly drones and rc cars for now

01:19:21 liquidassets: but cardanos in the future

01:22:59 mircea_popescu: ha

01:24:01 mircea_popescu: incidentally, kinda lulzy for me to read the "concerns" of the bitcoin derpistan cca q4 2014 / q1 2015 in fraudsters writings two years prior.

01:24:01 liquidassets: retail anything really, I'm want to help businesses succeed after the next economic adjustment happens

01:24:45 liquidassets: Ha! link?

01:25:40 mircea_popescu: above.

01:25:45 mircea_popescu: !up oldsk00l

01:26:40 oldsk00l: oke

01:26:49 oldsk00l: mircea_popescu: how are you

01:26:58 mircea_popescu: not bad.

01:27:04 trinque: liquidassets: I'm sure super-fast-buy-a-starbux can be built atop bitcoin just fine

01:27:09 trinque: might not end up being bitcoin itself

01:27:25 trinque: it will probably involve payment companies and some kind of account you fund

01:28:44 mircea_popescu: considering the actual tx pressure is ~0 atm, blocks not even half full etc, he can prolly get away with just using btc for at least a year.

01:30:13 liquidassets: I'd rather bring in as much btc as possible before spending it

01:31:01 liquidassets: that would make more sense then trying to cram in into what we have already <<not sustainable

01:31:38 mircea_popescu: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/drug-officer-stole-cash-planted-drugs-times-30312108 <<< philly cop admits to creating fake events involving criminals to frame random citizens.

01:31:39 assbot: Ex-Drug Officer Says He Stole Cash, Planted Drugs Many Times - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkCZPM )

01:31:57 mircea_popescu: Jeffrey Walker told jurors that the Philadelphia Police Department drug squad targeted white "college-boy ... khaki-pants types" who were "easy to intimidate."

01:31:59 mircea_popescu: heh

01:34:43 oldsk00l: ping mircea_popescu

01:34:48 mircea_popescu: hm ?

01:34:56 oldsk00l: sorry knew to itc

01:35:32 Adlai: get busy living or get busy dying

01:35:53 oldsk00l: lol noth

01:35:57 oldsk00l: lol both

01:36:05 Adlai: get busy living xor get busy dying

01:36:12 oldsk00l: hoe long asre you mrn br vollrvting nitcoind

01:36:16 Adlai: !down oldsk00l

01:38:04 Adlai: how blessed be our gates, to keep out such persistent barbarians

01:38:22 mircea_popescu: whossat anyway

01:38:41 Adlai: sum1 hu thnx u vollrvting nitcoin

01:39:14 mircea_popescu: i guess it's "do you come here often" v2.0, right, "how long have you been collecting bitcoin"

01:39:18 mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, since it rained.

01:40:09 Adlai: where does it rain bitcoin?

01:40:51 Adlai: although i hear they've been asking that in the sahara ever since it deserted up

01:41:05 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YbRASlEMqw

01:41:06 assbot: Geri Halliwell - It's Raining Men (Official Music Video) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkEltL )

01:41:23 mircea_popescu: fun fact : this is a cover. the original was an 80s thing of some whales nobody remembers today.

01:41:44 Adlai: nah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZC0ZJ1AW8

01:41:45 assbot: Liquid Tension Experiment - Universal Mind - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkEtcA )

01:43:03 Adlai: !down Adlai

02:15:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37100 @ 0.00032074 = 11.8995 BTC [+] {3}

02:20:47 ben_vulpes: buenos noches

02:20:48 ben_vulpes: buenos noches

02:22:12 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107427 << you know i met the guy one time

02:22:12 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 22:59:45; lobbes: to the qntra version? tis here: http://qntra.net/2015/03/missouri-secretary-of-state-orders-slaughter-to-pay-civil-penalties/

02:22:15 ben_vulpes: utterly insane

02:26:42 ben_vulpes: ascii_*, mircea_popescu: "hadoop" << thought y'all'd get a kick out of that

02:27:44 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [23:47] # cd /usr/local/src << baww look at the hobbyist sysadmin

02:29:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36050 @ 0.0003069 = 11.0637 BTC [-] {3}

02:30:02 mircea_popescu: what, what did i do ?

02:30:18 ben_vulpes: discovering the deep bitrot

02:30:24 ben_vulpes: look do what the 'professionals' do

02:30:26 ben_vulpes: give up

02:30:31 ben_vulpes: cry at night

02:30:35 ben_vulpes: beat yer kids

02:30:41 trinque: drink, forever

02:30:42 ben_vulpes: drink too much

02:30:44 trinque: lol

02:30:49 ben_vulpes: bwaha

02:31:03 mircea_popescu: mmmm...

02:31:35 ben_vulpes: * ascii_launchpad [00:04] just walked by a 'women in tech' poster << in the airport?!

02:32:18 ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/22/parenting-is-going-to-be-hard/ "whose company we enjoy" << dude you're barely ever here what "we"?

02:32:19 assbot: Parenting is going to be hard. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKvEGo )

02:33:06 ben_vulpes: blech and with the capitalizing of my carefully uncapitalized lines

02:34:12 ben_vulpes: look, pete, if the lord had intended capitalization, he'd have capitalized whatever himself.

02:34:58 mircea_popescu: sooo... how do you two install varnish

02:36:41 ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "beating heart of the source code" << more like well-armed guardians of the blood in the fly in the amber

02:37:38 trinque: mircea_popescu: I've yet to hit upon a devops process I actually like. On gentoo at least it appears to be an emerge varnish; rc-update add varnish default; /etc/init.d/varnish start

02:37:49 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i only actually use nginx.

02:37:57 mircea_popescu: i have nginx.

02:38:03 ben_vulpes: and still need varnish?!

02:38:05 mircea_popescu: but varnish actually halps.

02:38:06 mircea_popescu: yeah.

02:38:13 trinque: could just do memcached

02:38:14 ben_vulpes: above my pay grade boss

02:38:17 mircea_popescu: i dun think you laymen understand what a real blog is like.

02:38:27 trinque: guy's got actual traffic to contend with

02:38:39 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> i dun think you laymen understand running php under load is like << ftfy

02:38:40 trinque: mircea_popescu: memcached has performed well for me in the past, is supported by nginx

02:38:54 ben_vulpes: have you tried hiphop vm?

02:38:58 mircea_popescu: vm ?!

02:39:01 mircea_popescu: why would i want a vm!

02:39:20 ben_vulpes: it's the latest and greatest in php performance tekmology!

02:39:32 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes php has 0 to do with it. for one thing, it's compiled. for the other, it's apache that gets hammered, purely a html problem.

02:40:09 ben_vulpes: just trollin u boss

02:40:13 ben_vulpes: like i said, above my pay grade

02:40:34 mircea_popescu: i don't really understand the magic, but when running varnish hits ~= pages.

02:40:47 ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "are self-funded and self-motivated" << the actual footnote you want here is the reference to the deficits that serenissima runs

02:40:48 mircea_popescu: when not running varnish, hits > 2x pages. this makes a difference because children.

02:40:52 mircea_popescu: !up joeblo

02:42:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16393 @ 0.00032208 = 5.2799 BTC [+] {2}

02:44:30 ben_vulpes: i suspect that mircea_popescu booked out all of hotel redacto for con3

02:44:38 ben_vulpes: all of a sudden there is life in the thing

02:44:48 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is literally true, seeing how they had one of your suites per floor.

02:45:05 ben_vulpes: nice suites btw!

02:45:11 mircea_popescu: i was like "but i want the cool rooms, like i had", guy was like "well i hope you don't have more than 8 people coming then, because we're not building a patio"

02:46:14 joeblo: I'm curious, what's the standard implementation for digital assets?

02:46:35 ben_vulpes: there is no standard, joeblo

02:46:41 ben_vulpes: look at mpex, each contract is different

02:47:13 joeblo: Okay, cool thanks

02:48:21 ben_vulpes: for the very simple reason that complex financial instruments are rarely fungible.

02:48:23 ben_vulpes: options, sure.

02:48:25 joeblo: I'm trying to dev up to an API but there doesn't seem to be a definite answer for this

02:48:28 ben_vulpes: stocks, meh.

02:48:40 ben_vulpes: joeblo: "deb up to an API" << wat

02:48:59 joeblo: For example, coloredcoins

02:49:12 joeblo: Sure, that's not an API, but there are API's around it

02:49:35 ben_vulpes: (you don't need that apostrophe, fyi)

02:49:56 ben_vulpes: <liquidassets> [01:09] when you see it... << heh i missed it

02:50:02 ben_vulpes: !gettrust liquidassets

02:50:02 assbot: liquidassets is not registered in WoT.

02:50:11 ben_vulpes: HARUMPH

02:51:09 ben_vulpes: <trinque> [01:26] might not end up being bitcoin itself << of necessity must be something else

02:51:28 ben_vulpes: did briefly look into providing "how likely is this addr to doublespend" as a service

02:53:11 ben_vulpes: <Adlai> [01:40] nah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZC0ZJ1AW8 << scam, was expecting physics

02:53:12 assbot: Liquid Tension Experiment - Universal Mind - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKyaN0 )

02:54:07 ben_vulpes: lobbes: "and omitting to state material facts." << something trips my native engrish filter in this

02:54:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26016 @ 0.00030468 = 7.9266 BTC [-]

02:54:55 ben_vulpes: "roughly 3000 BTC" << ascii_* now that's a rocket

02:55:47 ben_vulpes: http://qntra.net/2014/10/caleb-chen-stephanie-murphy-brian-sovryn-assist-ponzi-scheme/#comment-19226 << v active this williamdunne

02:55:48 assbot: Caleb Chen, Stephanie Murphy & Brian Sovryn Assist Ponzi Scheme | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1IKyziy )

02:58:20 ben_vulpes: https://github.com/redline6561/coleslaw << trinque i think might actually use hutchentoot

02:58:21 assbot: redline6561/coleslaw · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1QlynLY )

02:58:35 trinque: ben_vulpes: do it

02:58:51 trinque: I was eyeballing it as a rest interface generator thinger before tripping over postgreset

02:58:52 trinque: *grest

02:58:56 ben_vulpes: http://zerolength.com/ << heh although this is a pretty good blog title

02:58:56 assbot: RANT EVAL BLOG LOOP ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qlyw22 )

02:58:58 trinque: not that it does that, but building one in it

02:59:48 ben_vulpes: postgrest ++

03:02:28 ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nox57hdgeAU << i'll be the last to goooooooo

03:02:29 assbot: Del Amitri - Always The Last To Know - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qlz9bQ )

03:02:32 *: ben_vulpes goes for smokes alone

04:10:46 trinque: ben_vulpes: | postgrest ++ << that it uses basic auth is the biggest wart I see

04:48:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00032048 = 5.2398 BTC [+]

05:03:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61850 @ 0.00031894 = 19.7264 BTC [-] {3}

05:35:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00032272 = 3.0658 BTC [+]

05:39:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11278 @ 0.00031842 = 3.5911 BTC [-]

06:12:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00032272 = 4.1308 BTC [+]

06:21:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00032346 = 8.2644 BTC [+] {3}

06:45:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00032555 = 6.7714 BTC [+]

06:55:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9834 @ 0.00032654 = 3.2112 BTC [+] {2}

07:03:48 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on " BTC to top $350 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1135/ Odds: 27(Y):73(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.68313103 BTC. Current weight: 96,738.

07:12:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17255 @ 0.00032431 = 5.596 BTC [-]

07:33:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12395 @ 0.00032749 = 4.0592 BTC [+]

08:58:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00032523 = 6.7973 BTC [-]

09:10:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00032605 = 7.4502 BTC [+] {3}

09:20:01 cazalla: check out those searches.. "josh garza wife naked" http://i.imgur.com/rkqr7gv.png

09:20:02 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FgbPIl )

10:07:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00031961 = 13.5195 BTC [-] {2}

10:21:16 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttfinex

10:21:17 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.07, Best ask: 235.31, Bid-ask spread: 0.24000, Last trade: 235.24, 24 hour volume: 16683.3115803, 24 hour low: 232.83, 24 hour high: 238.99, 24 hour vwap: None

10:37:58 williamdunne: ;;later tell mircea_popescu do you know how long each encryption/decryption takes on MPEX for submitted orders?

10:37:58 gribble: The operation succeeded.

10:38:10 mircea_popescu: yeah.

10:39:44 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Would you mind sharing it with me?

10:39:49 williamdunne: wondered it for a while

10:39:56 williamdunne: *about it

10:39:58 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/04/vessenes-foundation-draws-near-its-end-vessenes-out-as-chairman/

10:39:58 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ga5WIC )

10:40:27 mircea_popescu: encryption may be vulnerable to timing, which is why schemes are made to work in equal time.

10:40:44 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo b-a adds another head to its panoply.

10:40:55 mircea_popescu: i suppose asciilifeform won't agree he was beheaded, of course, because "still walks".

10:42:32 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: At this point we'll have to start husking them so we can put smaller jars on the shelves which only accomodate whatever was in the cranium.

10:42:41 mircea_popescu: lol

10:43:02 mircea_popescu: b-a's collection of very small empty jars!

10:43:06 mircea_popescu: like java!

10:43:32 mircea_popescu: hm scoopbot's dead for good huh

10:43:37 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2015/the-triviality-of-slaying-the-surviving-socialist-beast/

10:43:38 assbot: Page not found on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYJU0c )

10:44:14 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell peterl dude i get it, you gotta job, but you can't just leave. gotta make arrangements, who's gonna run scoopbot now ? where's the repository ? etc.

10:44:14 gribble: The operation succeeded.

10:44:26 mircea_popescu: why's the rg style so common ffs.

10:46:34 jurov: why not?

10:48:15 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Maybe you can do a scoopbot for your coding learning and to discover what makes contravex RSS so weird

10:48:15 gribble: The operation succeeded.

10:48:32 mircea_popescu: 'cause we're adults ?

10:50:07 jurov: you know, it's that "quit a job, forget everything instantly" kind of adults

10:52:06 jurov: fuckyeahmurica: http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/04/teacher_terrified_by_surprise.html

10:52:07 assbot: Teacher terrified by surprise 'active shooter' drill in eastern Oregon schoolhouse files federal lawsuit | OregonLive.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYLijj )

10:52:54 mircea_popescu: jurov i'd be afraid to get married. "well son... your dad left for a pack of ciggs back in 2012"

11:00:38 jurov: yes, happens

11:04:41 jurov: !mpif

11:04:42 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021367 B (Total: 467.26 B). Delta: -0.18 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000206 BTC [-]

11:05:40 mircea_popescu: !up scoopbot_revived

11:05:44 mircea_popescu: lol whossat

11:06:15 scoopbot_revived: Just having a crack at re-building scoopbot

11:07:39 mircea_popescu: our bots fucking live, for crying out loud.

11:07:45 mircea_popescu: generations, heavy stuff.

11:08:18 scoopbot_revived: Seems like he is dead

11:09:03 scoopbot_revived: !register 8501B2A64453796C5FD544B296C4CF3215685733

11:09:03 assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 8501B2A64453796C5FD544B296C4CF3215685733. This may take a few moments.

11:09:03 assbot: No valid OpenPGP data found on pgp.mit.edu.

11:09:57 mircea_popescu: williamdunne kinda what i meant. "live" in the general, old man dies, son takes its place, stuff like that.

11:13:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00031803 = 3.9277 BTC [-]

11:17:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.00031258 = 6.7674 BTC [-]

11:28:52 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_panama

11:31:55 ascii_panama: how to not love Spam Air

11:34:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60850 @ 0.00033196 = 20.1998 BTC [+] {5}

11:35:05 mircea_popescu: any vikings aboard ?

11:35:29 ascii_panama: spmodin himself

11:37:12 mircea_popescu: lol

11:44:57 ascii_panama: and similarly, derpistans where a working mains socket is unheard-of

11:46:40 mircea_popescu: oh, pics of the coin thing

11:47:51 ascii_panama: which one

11:48:10 ascii_panama: the charger? it was in viruviru

11:48:22 ascii_panama: and, interestingly, right next to a normal mains socket

11:48:30 ascii_panama: folks who noticed, queued up for the latter

11:48:56 ascii_panama: didn't remember to take a pic of this idiocy, it was best i could do to avoid sleeping. for:

11:49:16 ascii_panama: if you sleep in viruviru, clench the muscles of yer zero

11:49:29 ascii_panama: (anyone is welcome to better formula)

11:49:47 mircea_popescu: lol

11:50:20 ascii_panama: they even halted boarding because dog snorted

11:50:51 ascii_panama: ended up trotting it out, again, sniffing bags

11:51:11 ascii_panama: asked 'why'. monkey: 'porque bolivia'

11:51:57 mircea_popescu: lmao

11:52:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00032806 = 11.154 BTC [-]

11:52:50 mircea_popescu: Subject: Marriage

11:52:50 mircea_popescu: From: "Antonina" <fwcxosk@tomfarrell.com>

11:53:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29331 @ 0.00032802 = 9.6212 BTC [-]

11:53:20 ascii_panama: lolwut

11:54:14 mircea_popescu: "Hi. I want to be with a man who wants to start a strong relationship and who can care of his beloved woman. Are you independent and tender man? I would be happy to get know each other better! I am a attractive and affectionate lady. I can add that I am well-tempered and romantic. "

11:54:57 mircea_popescu: such is the nature of the beta male that "romantic" (aka, sexually dysfunctional) is a selling point

11:55:08 mircea_popescu: (hey, she sucks at fucking, which means better men won't take her from me!)

11:55:25 mircea_popescu: i have nfi what "well tempered" is supposed to mean, but perhaps resilient, which is in fact a corner stone of feminity.

11:55:54 ascii_panama: waiwut

11:56:03 mircea_popescu: use it in a sentence.

11:56:08 ascii_panama: this is a work of spmodin, not meant to be understood by man

11:56:17 ascii_panama: no one actually reads and believes any of this.

11:56:20 mircea_popescu: it is meant to be understood by "man", yes.

11:56:21 ascii_panama: cargocult.

11:56:32 mircea_popescu: maybe. tho... the derps on fetlife...

11:56:35 mircea_popescu: allow me to quote, 1 sec

11:57:16 ascii_panama: anyone who might end up with the notion that there is something to buy into here, could not possibly have money - on account of profound clinical retardation

11:58:28 ascii_panama: but in the abstract - the notion that xxx might reliably have sex, vs a specimen who won't, is a 'selling point', yes

11:59:10 ascii_panama: dan mocsny's 'smv' is market like any other.

12:04:33 mircea_popescu: ascii_panama http://dpaste.com/0R6RVZJ << there.

12:04:34 assbot: dpaste: 0R6RVZJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jx7Wh5 )

12:04:41 mircea_popescu: 40 imaginary millions.

12:04:49 mircea_popescu: kickstarter, the works.

12:07:02 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_panama

12:07:15 ascii_panama: danke BingoBoingo

12:07:43 ascii_panama: re: the spam thread: mircea_popescu laughs, but market consisting solely of 'mazerati' does not make sense

12:08:06 mircea_popescu: how does market consisting solely of symbolics machiens make sense then ?

12:08:14 ascii_panama: it doesn't

12:08:23 mircea_popescu: !b 3

12:08:23 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/19FXFXK.txt )

12:08:24 ascii_panama: though marginally more plausible

12:08:31 mircea_popescu: we shall keep this in our compartment.

12:08:47 ascii_panama: machines are far easier to produce than hot gurlz

12:09:01 ascii_panama: and no one has ever been turned down by a lisp mach.

12:09:13 ascii_panama: these differences are not unimportant.

12:09:25 BingoBoingo: ascii_panama: Depends on the production scale

12:09:32 ascii_panama: any scale.

12:10:50 mircea_popescu: anyway, ftr, men over 60 are BY FAR the most vulnerable demographic.

12:10:59 ascii_panama: this is obvious to a doorknob

12:10:59 mircea_popescu: not that I care, fuck em, but as far as truth goes.

12:11:30 mircea_popescu: i find it particularly poetic that they should get raped with a spiked club, incidentally.

12:11:36 mircea_popescu: were they better men, we wouldn't be here.

12:11:44 ascii_panama: what else could possibly happen to them ?

12:12:03 mircea_popescu: depends on the context. but in the pseudocivilised west, nothing else.

12:13:02 ascii_panama: better men, wut ?

12:13:07 *: ascii_panama confused

12:16:11 mircea_popescu: aha ?

12:16:29 ascii_panama: 'were they better men, we wouldn't be here.' << ?

12:17:06 mircea_popescu: yeah.

12:17:16 ascii_panama: better how ?

12:17:33 ascii_panama: used better birthcontrol ?

12:17:35 ascii_panama: or what

12:20:02 mircea_popescu: either better whips or better castration knives, sure.

12:23:17 ascii_panama: some nonzero portion of socialistoidderp is 'revenge' of low-smv folks against the high. dan mocsny observed this and it is a hypothesis with some explanatory power.

12:23:41 mircea_popescu: aha

12:23:55 mats: tomorrow AMZN will release earnings, esp as rel. to AWS

12:23:58 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/4RJGkYrh.png << Better

12:23:58 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jxb3Wr )

12:24:13 mircea_popescu: mats got anything riding on it ?

12:24:46 mats: i bought a few shares

12:25:03 mircea_popescu: curious how this plays out

12:31:33 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_panama

12:32:28 mircea_popescu: ahahaha turns out fetlife has a group dedicated to me nao.

12:32:46 BingoBoingo: lol

12:32:54 BingoBoingo: Do they still call you fraudsters?

12:33:55 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/fetlife-has-a-group-dedicated-to-me-now.png

12:33:55 assbot: Page not found on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jxcp3h )

12:34:16 mircea_popescu: imagine!

12:34:31 ascii_panama: woah what is that even written in

12:35:06 mircea_popescu: lua ?

12:36:52 mircea_popescu: lmao and apparently they brigaded a bunch of random people off twitter/facebook too.

12:38:14 ascii_panama: oil the 'maxims', it's a meatwave.

12:41:47 ben_vulpes: probably the last users

12:42:28 ben_vulpes: d'you know - i saw "respond via what's app" on some ad while en el sur?

12:44:07 mircea_popescu: apparently it's popular wherever people don't have money.

12:44:15 mircea_popescu: splendid internets business model.

12:44:17 mircea_popescu: !up scoopbot_revived

12:44:52 ascii_panama: mircea_popescu: it isn't like other chat gizmos cost money...?

12:45:13 mircea_popescu: so what pays the server bills ?

12:45:20 mircea_popescu: the hope that they one day may be sold shit, for money.

12:45:22 williamdunne: Would it be possible to give scoop some rep so he can !up himself?

12:45:29 ascii_panama: the bezzle pays for the box

12:45:31 mircea_popescu: yes. what handle you settled on ?

12:45:42 ascii_panama: 'jam tomorrow' ad infinitum.

12:45:46 mircea_popescu: ascii_panama but the bezzle is nothing but an interface oin that same api.

12:45:52 williamdunne: scoopbot_revived but I don't mind changing it

12:45:57 mircea_popescu: works for me

12:46:22 mircea_popescu: !rate scoopbot_revived 1 Valliant Sir Scoop Bot the Third.

12:46:22 assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/5b2072419749c169

12:46:42 mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.scoopbot_revived.1:50e37ded45b3e1b6a16c1f7892b4cbeefeaa8dcbc329df3facc92c1ea744a106

12:46:43 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for scoopbot_revived with note: Valliant Sir Scoop Bot the Third.

12:46:47 mircea_popescu: !rated assbot

12:46:47 assbot: You rated user assbot on 12-Apr-2014, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: Nuclear sub delivered 2 days before order while paying me $500.

12:46:57 mircea_popescu: o.O

12:47:01 mircea_popescu: !rated deedbot-

12:47:01 assbot: deedbot- is not registered in WoT.

12:47:06 williamdunne: Tanks Mircea

12:47:15 mircea_popescu: !rated scoopbot

12:47:15 assbot: scoopbot is not registered in WoT.

12:49:40 williamdunne: Wahey, successfully !ups himself

12:49:44 mircea_popescu: wd.

12:50:22 ben_vulpes: ;;ud crumbs

12:50:23 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crumbs | Crumbs. 1. A small light amount of something 2. An expression of dismay. 1. What small i garnish my chicken with? I know bread crumbs 2. Oh crumbs i've left  ...

12:52:01 ben_vulpes: crumbs?

12:52:05 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes from what i've been explained, it's so that the tribe of a user gets a reference they can follow in their flux

12:52:34 mircea_popescu: discussions are otherwise opaque but for the "x commented on y" notifications everyone gets.

12:55:01 mircea_popescu: "I read your update ... I understand how it makes you feel and I understand your concerns ... I am not saying he didn't do anything wrong and I think he is the ultimate douchebag mixed with disrespectful on so many levels ... but fetlife has been filled with writings about that list. And having someone's screenname is not exactly going to make it easy to find them in most cities ... so he is actually getting exactly th

12:55:02 mircea_popescu: e reaction he wants ... he is a huge attention slut! And we are just giving him exactly what he wants ..."

12:55:33 mircea_popescu: such a perfect fucking storm. admire the dilemma these poor people face. if they stfu about it, well... then they're kneeling in silent abjection before the man, right ? just like the man said.

12:55:41 mircea_popescu: but if they don't... what, fetlife becomes mplife ?

12:56:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00031408 = 4.8682 BTC [-]

12:56:20 mircea_popescu: the dilemma, the one true mark of the simple mind stretched to fit holes larger than it ever possibily could.

12:56:47 ascii_panama: separate out the top pets, then ???, then - profit ?

12:57:23 mircea_popescu: i am aware this may be hard to impossible to believe, but srsly, i act from cause.

12:57:41 mircea_popescu: that baku scammer dude should have fixed his site in pass 1 and thank me for it.

12:57:50 *: ascii_panama finds this quite easy to believe

12:58:33 mircea_popescu: "Did anyone notice that he has 4 volumes or that at the bottom he has everything copyrighted? How the hell do you copyright someone's personal information?"

12:58:56 *: ascii_panama did not imagine that mircea_popescu seriously -needed- the actual pieces of this piñata for anything in particular

12:58:58 mircea_popescu: the ridiculous thing about copyright is that i actually have a perfectly valid claim to the copyright of the lists i published. copyright attaches to selection of material.

12:59:09 williamdunne: Okay, what blogs would you guys like to see in scoop? Currently thinking Contravex, Qntra, fraudsters, btcalpha. Probably missing a few.

12:59:24 mircea_popescu: shit the list is lost too ?!

12:59:53 williamdunne: Well, I don't know where to find it, happy to just use the old list though

13:00:22 mircea_popescu: williamdunne : btcalpha.com btctrading.wordpress.com cascadianhacker.com contravex.com devilsadvocate.biz explo.yt fr.anco.is www.loper-os.org pankkake.headfucking.net qntra.net blog.spagni.net thedrinkingrecord.com thestringpuller.tumbler.com thewhet.net fraudsters.com

13:00:48 mircea_popescu: feel free to not include anything that has no posts this year

13:00:57 mircea_popescu: subject to owner bitching here and getting back in

13:01:02 mike_c: bitch!

13:01:17 *: ascii_panama guilty

13:01:18 mike_c: (for btcalpha.com)

13:01:36 mircea_popescu: well get on with it dawgs! once per quarter for crying out loud, it's like fucking.

13:02:09 ben_vulpes: bitching!

13:02:18 ben_vulpes: also probably guilty

13:02:25 mircea_popescu: "this guy is a complete disrespectful, arrogant asshole. Reading his "blog" literally made me feel ill."

13:02:28 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_panama

13:02:31 *: ascii_panama is definitely doing a c3 piece but has no idea when, might have to sleep for a week 1st

13:02:41 mircea_popescu: this would be the purpose and the mark of art, right nubbins` ?

13:03:05 mircea_popescu: ;;seen nubbins`

13:03:06 gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 1 day, 19 hours, 8 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <nubbins`> oh right, yeah

13:03:25 mircea_popescu: what happened to him anyway ? wasn't he just about to confront the weirdo guy subletting from him when he disappeared ?

13:04:57 williamdunne: Don't think cascadian has a feed

13:06:10 ben_vulpes: ha yeah that's right fu rss

13:06:22 mircea_popescu: so how you gonna be included ?

13:06:31 ben_vulpes: inclusion is for teh masses!

13:06:53 ben_vulpes: !s the site is the feed

13:06:54 assbot: 1 results for 'the site is the feed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+site+is+the+feed

13:07:07 ben_vulpes: !s the post is the feed

13:07:08 assbot: 2 results for 'the post is the feed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+post+is+the+feed

13:07:35 ben_vulpes: imma rewrite it in ruby on rails this wknd

13:07:53 mircea_popescu: o noes bencash, wai u rewrite in fetlife!

13:07:54 ascii_panama: snobol on slugs

13:08:15 ascii_panama: intercal on ichtheosaurs

13:08:43 ascii_panama: brainfuck on buruli ulcer.

13:08:51 ben_vulpes: i think my lulzmuscles are exhausted from con

13:09:15 BingoBoingo: Ruby Riding Rail

13:09:32 mircea_popescu: dude so much mileage of this stuff. "Why is my post deleted again al hackers let unit until we find the fucker and break his site and get the scumbag" ;

13:09:33 mircea_popescu: "Is there a way we can drag him into the light of day. Out him for the misogynous bastard he is? The name links to a lot of Bitcoin info... Same guy? If it is, I wonder how potential investors would feel about his cyber-terrorist behavior."

13:09:40 ascii_panama: !s ruby sybian

13:09:40 assbot: 1 results for 'ruby sybian' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=ruby+sybian

13:09:52 mircea_popescu: i suppose at this rate mpoe-pr will have to be conscripted again.

13:10:17 ascii_panama: mircea_popescu: give'er a 'maxim'

13:10:32 mircea_popescu: but i mean... wait. "out him" ? how is this supposed to work for the love of god.

13:10:39 ascii_panama: none of this deserves the individual shot-in-head attention imho

13:10:43 mircea_popescu: the barristas are all upset and so i change my mind about things ?

13:10:57 mircea_popescu: ascii_panama allow me to quote poetry to you!

13:11:38 mircea_popescu: "Trăind în cercul vostru strâmt norocul vă petrece ; ci eu în lumea mea mă simt nemuritor și rece."

13:11:58 mircea_popescu: it's kind of fascinating, i'm a little boy at heart, i just lifted a rock and omfg the grub it covered!

13:12:46 ascii_panama: i did something very vaguely similar once, with the 'clojure' post

13:13:00 mircea_popescu: was it unpleasant ?

13:13:05 ascii_panama: even though no one was pwned or otherwise physically disciplined - the derp continues to this day.

13:13:14 ascii_panama: it was hilarious!

13:13:17 ascii_panama: is, still.

13:13:34 ascii_panama: the sheer struggle of the morons to avoid reacting to the kick in the face

13:13:42 mircea_popescu: well you will notice that nothing happened here also. it's just ... what was that word, for an item that breaks minds ? it was visual in the original sf novel. like a fractal.

13:14:01 ascii_panama: pretending that there was not, and could not have been, a kick, or a face to kick

13:14:09 mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a sort of memetic prion. a certain kind of broken mental software can not gaze upon this thing, it collapses into a new foldage.

13:14:10 ascii_panama: and tht what they're spitting isn't -really- teeth

13:14:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.00031443 = 6.493 BTC [+]

13:15:52 mircea_popescu: "He could fall under international terrorism law as a cyber terrorist, if I am not mistaken."

13:15:54 ascii_panama: !s blit

13:15:55 assbot: 6 results for 'blit' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=blit

13:15:59 ascii_panama: ^ it.

13:16:01 mircea_popescu: ah yes the blit

13:16:28 mircea_popescu: i suppose as the legal concept is defined in english, this factually is terrorism.

13:16:39 mircea_popescu: what brave new world.

13:16:39 ascii_panama: of course there were earlier stories. one involving a record player, for instance. and if one thinks, the whole thing goes back to at least medusa

13:17:06 mircea_popescu: ascii_panama medusa broke the hardware, so to speak, whereas these things are more akin to ... normal education.

13:17:29 mircea_popescu: as per plato's education : in a cave bereft of light, light hurts the eyes. in a world where education's a long lost tech, education hurts the mind.

13:17:58 mircea_popescu: "This makes me sick. He is dangerous...this is just the start of his twisted mind" physically sick. like photomigraine sick.

13:18:03 mircea_popescu: puking and everything.

13:18:18 ascii_panama: especially if the only lesson resulting is 'go eat a nagant'

13:18:18 ascii_panama: because many of the students are quite far gone

13:18:39 mircea_popescu: i am not so convinced.

13:18:47 ascii_panama: that they will resist this lesson, should surprise no one.

13:19:15 ascii_panama: i mean, yes 'we don't do solutions' (TM) (R) but what'd you have'em do ?

13:19:20 mircea_popescu: you know what the tango instructor was saying "the woman must resist the man's intention. if she does not, and just takes off, the guy's left there wondering who is he dancing with. the air ?"

13:19:22 ascii_panama: homo redditicus, that is

13:20:02 ascii_panama: aha?

13:20:17 mircea_popescu: feedback is important for dancing like it is important for HIDs, like is important here.

13:20:31 mircea_popescu: i don't contemplate the notion that resistence is an omen of eventual failure.

13:21:21 ascii_panama: it isn't simply about this particular instance of resistance though

13:21:44 mircea_popescu: you can't mistreat a sixteen year old on the grounds that your 50yo ex wife was a harpy.

13:21:46 ascii_panama: homo redditicus is not homo sapiens and i know of no means of pulling off the transformation

13:21:55 mircea_popescu: well, that'd be its problem.

13:23:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00031443 = 3.1286 BTC [+]

13:24:08 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever figure varnish out?

13:24:23 mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/29MWTSE << if this isn't the mark of complete anomie i have no idea what it'd be. check it out, the un raporteur. ima go hang out with milosevici and gadaffi nao, because derps may not ever be upset!

13:24:24 assbot: dpaste: 29MWTSE ... ( http://bit.ly/1GaAvxS )

13:24:39 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes stopped looking about the time i said yest. y ?

13:26:10 ben_vulpes: just axin

13:29:26 williamdunne: Ok, ScoopBot should now be working, won't know until someone makes a new post though

13:29:31 mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3877PYR << this derp left a buncha http://fraudsters.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-iv/#comment-113813 yest.

13:29:32 assbot: dpaste: 3877PYR ... ( http://bit.ly/1GaBnT9 )

13:29:32 assbot: Page not found on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GaBnTd )

13:29:46 mircea_popescu: williamdunne actually i was gonna write a spec, soi i guess brb

13:29:58 williamdunne: Ideal

13:30:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41000 @ 0.00030991 = 12.7063 BTC [-] {4}

13:43:32 mircea_popescu: mk, should be 10-20 minutes.

13:43:48 williamdunne: Perfect, just found a bug I will need to fix which will take about the same

13:45:07 mats: mircea_popescu: "Verifies key material was created by a GnuPG version ulterior to 1.4.10 and prior to 1.4.20" << what should happen if --no-emit-version is included as a flag?

13:45:19 mircea_popescu: warning.

13:45:40 mircea_popescu: also it is a very good iudea to ask all job board qs on the article

13:45:47 mircea_popescu: will get lost in here and cause confusion

13:46:40 mats: ok

13:50:50 mats: gnupg source is gnarly

13:50:58 williamdunne: Fixed

13:51:24 mircea_popescu: myeah.

13:55:13 williamdunne: There we go, now optimized as well

14:09:33 mircea_popescu: from the notbad.jpg department https://flpics1.a.ssl.fastly.net/3012/3012469/00050ed8-dec0-dc1e-5847-c7d97a41c51b_720.jpg

14:09:33 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1GaJSh4 )

14:13:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11591 @ 0.00031591 = 3.6617 BTC [+]

14:21:47 lobbes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1107743 << thanks for pointing this out. I can't unsee now

14:21:47 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 02:54:07; ben_vulpes: lobbes: "and omitting to state material facts." << something trips my native engrish filter in this

14:22:14 lobbes: Such an old article that it probably isn't worth bothering BB or cazalla to edit, however

14:22:23 mircea_popescu: i don't see the problem ?

14:22:41 lobbes: should be "omitting material facts"

14:22:51 mircea_popescu: i guess.

14:22:57 *: lobbes shrugs

14:23:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12409 @ 0.00031591 = 3.9201 BTC [+]

14:25:21 mircea_popescu: dude this shit is epic. fetlife essentially exists as a sort of liverjournal, it comes out.

14:25:25 mircea_popescu: a fine example : http://dpaste.com/1XW1CVH

14:25:26 assbot: dpaste: 1XW1CVH ... ( http://bit.ly/1d4nE9l )

14:26:06 mircea_popescu: what happened ? some derp tied up a professional model he barely knew, and then fingered her. she had no idea he was going to finger her, and didn't care for it.

14:26:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49550 @ 0.00030749 = 15.2361 BTC [-] {2}

14:26:46 lobbes: williamdunne: wd on scoopbot revival. Now we gotta get pete_dushenski to post something; that'll be the real test ;)

14:26:50 mircea_popescu: what this turns into is a massive one year saga where the guy's manager becomes jealous at the guy's new girlie (depicted above), and then badmouths him and then he tries to talk to the original model who comes out in favour of the slighted ex

14:27:13 mircea_popescu: and on and on AND ON it goes. they are ALSO calling on the un raporteur for terrorism. it's also abuse, rape, victims, trauma, the works.

14:27:22 williamdunne: lobbes: Hope for the best - looks like it should be working. On the first parse manages to pull his articles

14:28:36 mircea_popescu: "You violated my consent, my body and my trust. You made me doubt my love for rope and my career as a professional model. What you did is legally considered as rape, and YOU are not allowed to minimise it for your own interest. YOU are only allowed to be sorry, certainly not to be upset at anyone for letting other people know what you did."

14:29:04 mircea_popescu: apparently, as the female mind goes, men have agency only with their permission or something.

14:29:30 lobbes: 'You made me doubt my love for rope' lel

14:29:42 mircea_popescu: well i can see that point.

14:30:00 mircea_popescu: sort-of like how bad management makes boys doubt their love of computers, and idiot teachers make kids generally doubt their love of books.

14:30:16 williamdunne: I can understand being upset at being raped as-well, assuming it wasn't one of the new-fangled versions of "rape"

14:30:19 mircea_popescu: but bad management ain't rape.

14:30:48 mircea_popescu: williamdunne as the old expression goes in porn, "if you're naked, you're fucking"

14:30:55 mircea_popescu: girl doesn't wanna, girl stays off the set.

14:31:43 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I can understand that position, but equally someone walking home, being dragged into a hedge and raped is certainly, most definitely rape - but I don't know that backstory of what you're talking about here

14:31:58 mircea_popescu: williamdunne " what happened ? some derp tied up a professional model he barely knew, and then fingered her. she had no idea he was going to finger her, and didn't care for it."

14:32:44 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Yeah I'd say that probably counts as some form as rape. In the same way that stealing a handbag from inside a locked house is burglary

14:32:48 mircea_popescu: the guy is a total douche, as far as his emails let on, and the woman is both smarter and more collected than him, for sure. they weren't a good fit anyway.

14:33:13 mircea_popescu: williamdunne because why, penetration ?

14:33:25 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: pretty much

14:33:43 mircea_popescu: if you go in for a prostate exam and doc sticks finger in you without asking specifically, also rape ?

14:34:05 williamdunne: If I didn't go there for a prostate exam, yeah I'd guess so

14:34:12 mircea_popescu: how about dentist ? i don't recall a dentist ever asking me if it's ok to fuck up my teeth.

14:34:22 mircea_popescu: well it's where it gets iffy. no idea what they ACTUALLY went there for.

14:34:28 mircea_popescu: she has a story, he has another, as it would be the case.

14:34:48 williamdunne: Its definitely 'iffy', but people are particularly sensitive about their sensitives

14:34:56 mircea_popescu: surely.

14:35:13 mircea_popescu: and i;m not saying it's good or anything, or that the woman should not protest or anything.

14:35:45 mircea_popescu: but if you call every bicycle a tank soon enough the army's going to be riding into battle on clown materiel.

14:35:57 chetty: if you get naked and let a guy tie you up seems to me its not rape, got to take some responsibility for getting to that point.

14:36:09 mircea_popescu: well, they were making a display.

14:36:18 williamdunne: chetty: Sounds like she was expecting to be photographed

14:36:21 mircea_popescu: actors act naked all the time without an expectation on any one's part to end up fucking on stage.

14:36:29 mircea_popescu: which i suspect is what the woman was thinking.

14:36:44 mircea_popescu: (there's also a major historical angle of [seazy beta] males pushing women into sex via "art")

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14:37:01 chetty: responsibilty ...make sure before you do it ...get it in writing

14:37:12 williamdunne: Easiest way to get a girl naked is to stick her in front of a camera, no?

14:37:16 mircea_popescu: yeah they ARE playing pretty fast and incredibly loose by now.

14:37:21 mircea_popescu: who the fuck ties up a woman he doesn't own.

14:37:25 mircea_popescu: i don't mean know. i mean own.

14:38:11 mircea_popescu: williamdunne yeh, but it resolves none of the fundamental problems. you're still you, she's still her, the situation just got more volatile. just like pushing the gas pedal doesn't make one either less drunk or better a driver.

14:39:20 williamdunne: Generally natural escalation seems like a better idea

14:40:41 mircea_popescu: anyway, remarkable how little thought is given to the puppet master (Vanessa Veronique apparently) getting all these shenanigans in motion to get even at the 60yo derp that found a 20yo slut.

14:41:14 mircea_popescu: that she was his "manager" and violated his trust by anti-representing him is not a point of concern, not even for people so finely tuned to the iffy intricacies of you know, the violation that occurs should a finger stray into a slit.

14:41:44 chetty: priorities

14:42:02 mircea_popescu: heh

14:42:51 mircea_popescu: she's 40 something, which conceivably means she was once the "deeply in love" LolaBlake

14:43:04 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, anyone seen "all about eve" ?

14:44:15 williamdunne: Nope

14:44:23 mircea_popescu: great film.

14:45:58 williamdunne: Summary?

14:46:05 mircea_popescu: pretty much the same.

14:46:10 mircea_popescu: what else is one to make a film about ?

14:46:47 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/all-about-eve/ there

14:46:47 assbot: All About Eve on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1d4tc3Q )

14:47:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00029802 = 7.5995 BTC [-]

14:48:01 lobbes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1106236 << aha. "excuse me, fellas, but this bottom shelf liquor will get us -just- as drunk"

14:48:01 assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 02:11:22; ben_vulpes: but let's try anyways: "pragmatic coffee nerd in buenos aires"

14:52:11 scoopbot_revived: New post; Vessenes Foundation Draws Near Its End, Vessenes Out As Chairman url; http://qntra.net/2015/04/vessenes-foundation-draws-near-its-end-vessenes-out-as-chairman/

14:52:12 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1d4uxrh )

14:52:40 williamdunne: Looks alive

14:53:09 mircea_popescu: somehow hasn't seen fraudsters yet. how often does it poll ?

14:53:13 williamdunne: Had to make him multi-threaded to get the IRC library work -.-

14:53:21 williamdunne: 15 seconds

14:53:39 williamdunne: But I think he had it loaded up before he started because I stopped when you released :/

14:54:42 mircea_popescu: eh, a minute or even 5 should be plenty.

14:55:17 williamdunne: Yeah 15 seconds for testing purposes, I'll change that on next restart

14:56:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27428 @ 0.00029575 = 8.1118 BTC [-] {4}

15:02:01 pete_dushenski: goooood morning

15:02:16 mircea_popescu: ola

15:02:33 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: what's this about me not spending 'enough' time in channel ?

15:03:33 pete_dushenski: people think blog posts write themselves, comments answer themselves, books read themselves, i swear

15:03:33 scoopbot_revived: New post; Windows Servers Pwn'd By JPEG Uploads url; http://qntra.net/2015/04/windows-servers-pwnd-by-jpeg-uploads/

15:03:34 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoI8rp )

15:03:44 pete_dushenski: o hello scoopbot_revived

15:03:45 mircea_popescu: it werks.

15:04:04 mircea_popescu: i guess ima edit the maintainer. mats am i putting you on the key server ?

15:04:15 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i'd love to be here more. i'm here as much as i can!

15:04:53 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: thx for the line correction

15:05:13 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: also, speaking of 'we', any updates on dat lordship list from c3 ?

15:05:35 mircea_popescu: was briefly discussed, not came to much

15:06:07 pete_dushenski: mmok

15:06:28 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: seems like williamdunne is too fast for me!

15:07:04 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Well, his bot still needs to pass the qntravex test

15:07:47 mircea_popescu: williamdunne yeah was that a complete rewrite or what ?

15:07:58 mircea_popescu: you found teh github ?

15:09:06 trinque: mircea_popescu | well you will notice that nothing happened here also. it's just ... what was that word, for an item that breaks minds << star trek used this against the borg, could've been ripped off from a novel

15:09:42 mircea_popescu: iirc that was just a banal virus

15:10:04 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: s_r didn't pass qntra yet ?

15:10:23 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Passed the qntra part, now faces your vex

15:10:32 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Complete rewrite, but needs some fixing. Found some bugs

15:10:35 pete_dushenski: indeed.

15:11:41 pete_dushenski: perhaps later today i'll stumble across something in the logs or in the news.

15:12:06 pete_dushenski: for sure tomorrow at the latest

15:14:22 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2015/stop-all-the-clocks-again/ << anyone willing to read this and put it on youtube or w/e ?

15:14:23 assbot: Page not found on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoLlHt )

15:14:31 mircea_popescu: !rated williamdunne

15:14:31 assbot: You rated user williamdunne on 12-Apr-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: new blood.

15:14:47 mircea_popescu: !rate williamdunne 2 scoopbot the 3rd

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15:15:01 mats: mircea_popescu: sure, put me on the keyserver project

15:15:11 mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.williamdunne.2:c99e0d75f0733d32ba9c306cfe3ab197ee1acbdee4b3db7052970f23329c815e

15:15:11 assbot: Successfully updated the rating for williamdunne from 1 to 2 with note: scoopbot the 3rd

15:15:18 mircea_popescu: that was fast enough.

15:15:21 williamdunne: Thank you very much

15:18:10 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'll read the poem and post it

15:18:20 mircea_popescu: cool!

15:19:19 pete_dushenski: i'll try it today but i'm a little stuffed up, still recovering from last week's mega-fiesta, so if it doesn't sound great i'll re-do it tmrw

15:26:02 pete_dushenski: williamdunne: curious, what do you mean by "Generally they're against inflation of block sizes, not an increase."

15:27:42 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: From what I can tell the objection you all have is that Gavin's suggestion is constant inflation, as opposed to the block-size being anything other than 1mb

15:28:40 pete_dushenski: the block size could be 512kb i guess

15:29:06 pete_dushenski: bigger than 1mb though ? not in the foreseeable future

15:29:10 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Ah so you actually want it permanently at 1mb or lower?

15:29:42 pete_dushenski: to the extent that scarcity is the goal because scarcity is a key driver of value, then yes

15:30:21 pete_dushenski: i'd want 2mb blocks like i'd want 42 mn coins

15:30:37 trinque: how bout just fill the bucket before considering marrying a larger bucket?

15:30:53 pete_dushenski: ^

15:31:34 williamdunne: trinque: I agree, but thats different to a permanent cap

15:31:35 pete_dushenski: right, it really doesn't matter what *i* want so much as what's practically needed

15:32:14 williamdunne: I don't see why you're saying that you'd want the transaction capabilities tied to the number of coins issued though

15:32:52 pete_dushenski: i don't, i could've just as well said 'like i want a hole in the head'

15:33:26 pete_dushenski: or 'like i want hiv'

15:33:55 pete_dushenski: but again, not that it so much matters what i want

15:34:19 ben_vulpes: man it doesn't matter what's needed or wanted or anything

15:34:21 ben_vulpes: bitcoin is

15:34:48 ben_vulpes: usg can break it like they broke gpg, but that broken thing will not and cannot be bitcoin

15:37:49 trinque: 311.63 633.87 417.2 112.43 126.75 271.06

15:37:58 trinque: last few blocks in kB

15:38:02 williamdunne: I definitely agree that too large blocks would break it, but I also think that if bitcoin is to grow we will need bigger blocks

15:38:17 trinque: williamdunne: so let it bang into the ceiling and see what people do

15:38:43 ben_vulpes: williamdunne: you're missing the point.

15:38:57 ben_vulpes: if a thing exists with a block size that is not one megabyte, /that thing is not bitcoin/.

15:39:05 williamdunne: trinque: Sure, thats what I would advocate too

15:39:17 ben_vulpes: also what is this "to grow" nonsense.

15:39:24 trinque: ben_vulpes: that sounds like a tautology

15:39:31 trinque: bitcoin is bitcoin because it is bitcoin

15:39:45 ben_vulpes: nitrogen is nitrogen because of the arrangement of electrons in valence shells.

15:39:48 williamdunne: trinque: Bitcoin currently worth x potatoes, bitcoin in the future to be worth y potatoes

15:39:51 ben_vulpes: is that still a tautology?

15:40:17 trinque: no, that example is not

15:40:40 ben_vulpes: so if you change the block size, you get deuterium.

15:40:46 williamdunne: It wouldn't be bitcoin of today but it would still be bitcoin

15:40:58 williamdunne: "If I cut my hair, am I still williamdunne"

15:41:28 trinque: ben_vulpes: it is currently unknown what an appropriate blocksize would be

15:41:36 trinque: 1mb seems to be a reasonable cap

15:41:40 trinque: but is not magic

15:42:02 trinque: the way to find out what a good blocksize would be is to let the thing bang into the ceiling so we know what that looks like

15:42:03 ben_vulpes: what then distinguishes bitcoin from XXXcoin?

15:42:04 ben_vulpes: i guess they're all bitcoin or something retarded like that

15:42:06 ben_vulpes: appropriate shmappropriate.

15:42:08 ben_vulpes: it's as magic as 21M.

15:42:35 ben_vulpes: what's the worst case scenario of hitting that ceiling?

15:42:52 trinque: my point is you're claiming to know more than you do

15:42:57 trinque: not that 1mb isn't the right value

15:43:10 williamdunne: The blocksize is a limiting factor of its usage, 21m doesn't thanks to 8 decimal places

15:43:22 trinque: one will know what happens when the blocksize limit is reached ... when the blocksize limit is reached

15:43:38 ben_vulpes: i'm saying that "right" doesn't matter.

15:43:40 ben_vulpes: 21me8 then, williamdunne.

15:43:45 ben_vulpes: trinque: you gotta have a hypothesis about what's going to happen, man.

15:43:59 ben_vulpes: especially if you're even sort of supporting this blocksize change derpage.

15:44:08 trinque: fees, and prioritizing transactions according to them

15:44:13 trinque: I don't support anything, much less this

15:44:25 ben_vulpes: so no technical fears then?

15:44:48 trinque: 1mb is "yeah that's probably big enough"

15:44:50 williamdunne: ben_vulpes: Hypothesis; if we ever get to the point where we are completely filling blocks and fees start going through the roof, either growth will halter or it will fork - and the 1mb version will be virtually barren

15:45:01 ben_vulpes: the thing about bitcoins is that it a system that conserves, and resists diddling in the vein of fiat economies.

15:45:30 ben_vulpes: williamdunne: alternatively, the big blocks version will be populated with retards.

15:45:49 ben_vulpes: and what is this "growth" thing you keep banging on about?

15:46:00 ben_vulpes: usd denominated value of bitcoins /literally does not matter/

15:46:23 ben_vulpes: "oh gosh so we can all be richer in the fyooooture instead of working today" sort of nonsense

15:47:08 williamdunne: ben_vulpes: Of course it matters, its a network. More people = more useful. I don't see how that can be anything but an objective truth.

15:47:43 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: these i suppose are the muppets you're looking for.

15:48:07 mircea_popescu: williamdunne what if in going from 5 to 10 you lose the one worth 1 and gain 5 worth .1 each ?

15:48:07 ben_vulpes: williamdunne: is not the inability to interdict funds enough for you?

15:48:26 ben_vulpes: williamdunne: is not the hard cap of 21M of the thing enough for you?

15:48:34 ben_vulpes: such progress.

15:48:42 trinque: ben_vulpes: I'm not going to accept being called a muppet for saying we're not in a position to evaluate an appropriate block size, therefore changing it is unwise.

15:48:51 ben_vulpes: not you, trinque

15:48:55 trinque: well GOOD

15:48:56 trinque: :)

15:48:59 ben_vulpes: sheesh

15:49:08 ben_vulpes: touchy tatiana, you

15:50:50 williamdunne: ben_vulpes: Yes, its very useful. But the value of your coins will inflate fast if its just 12 people using it over and over.

15:50:58 mircea_popescu: ...

15:51:00 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Sorry not entirely sure what you mean

15:51:03 mircea_popescu: that's not what inflation is.

15:51:34 mircea_popescu: williamdunne you have 5 users. one of which is worth "1 unit of useful". you dd 5 more. they together are worth 0.5 units of useful.

15:51:40 mircea_popescu: becuase of this addition, that one leaves.

15:51:45 mircea_popescu: you have now grown and are worth less.

15:51:50 mircea_popescu: this happens ALL THE TIME.

15:52:05 mircea_popescu: it's nto even the exception, it is the rule. facebook today is not worth 1/10 of what facebook was worth in 2005

15:53:01 mircea_popescu: adding more people, especially if adding more people SELECTED by the criteria that "they are poor, stupid and usleess enough to need to be added specifically" is a recipe for making your thing worth less.

15:53:03 mircea_popescu: not more.

15:53:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38250 @ 0.00030181 = 11.5442 BTC [+]

15:53:36 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: That seems counter-intuitive, I'm not trying to over-value the poor and stupid here.

15:53:52 mircea_popescu: really ?

15:54:08 mircea_popescu: you ever held a party ?

15:56:51 williamdunne: Yep, but seems like a relatively invalid comparison

15:57:21 mircea_popescu: don't tell, show.

15:57:21 mircea_popescu: why does it seem so ?

15:57:57 williamdunne: Because I don't have to talk to everyone using bitcoin at the same time nor put up with their noise (in particular, anyway)

15:58:10 mircea_popescu: that is exactly what you have to do.

16:00:33 mircea_popescu: it's worse, because a) every party participant is stuck b) keeping ~complete~ records of the whole thing c) forever. it's not just a process thing like the party. it's that you have to write their noiise down, and pay for warehouses.

16:01:16 williamdunne: But in return you have more potential users of your XYZ business, and more potential to operate profitable businesses that are less-than-possible in the fiat world

16:02:04 lobbes: but it isn't the currency that makes your business profitable

16:02:21 pete_dushenski: williamdunne: but the barriers to entry are lower in the fiat world

16:02:31 pete_dushenski: and bitcoin quite likes keeping those barriers high

16:02:34 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Well that depends on what you are doing

16:02:56 mircea_popescu: yeah, in return "but there could be cute girls"

16:03:08 mircea_popescu: no, there won't be. it will be a bunch of fucktarded dudebros, that aren't even legal to drink.

16:03:10 williamdunne: lobbes: Sure, but it alters things massively. Just-Dice with 7 billion potential customers is better than Just-Dice with 2,000,000 potential

16:03:15 mircea_popescu: which is why clubs have those big guys at the door.

16:03:24 mircea_popescu: clubs i'd go to, anyway.

16:03:49 pete_dushenski: pubs, walk right in, fulla 'dudebros'

16:04:31 mircea_popescu: "more value"

16:04:39 lobbes: those 7 billion customers aren't necessarily worth more than those 2 million

16:05:08 williamdunne: lobbes: In terms of bitcoin? no, in terms of potatoes? yes

16:05:32 mircea_popescu: because you imagine there's an intrinsic minimum value for "human beings"

16:05:34 mircea_popescu: there isn't.

16:05:39 mircea_popescu: you also imagine there is a cap. there isn't a cap.

16:05:47 mircea_popescu: one guy can and usually is worth more than an entire country.

16:06:01 mircea_popescu: we have this situation right now in argentina, for instance, and there's 40mn of em derps.

16:06:56 williamdunne: Yeah, but that one guy isn't going to be betting all his money on Just-Dice, collectively there is a lot of value to exploit

16:07:25 mircea_popescu: this is wishful thinking.

16:07:44 mircea_popescu: there's no value "collectively". there seems to be, currently, because the usg / ag etc are propping them up on borrowed money.

16:07:53 mircea_popescu: otherwise, poor people are a liability not an asset. they are below zero.

16:08:28 mircea_popescu: every large enough operation has this set of accounts that are below water - cost more to service than they're worth. which is why fiat banks are charging per account

16:09:38 mircea_popescu: which is why obamacare, etc.

16:10:18 mircea_popescu: the truth is that for about half of the us, the marginal benefit of spending another 1k per capita on their health is unrecoverable, as they won't produce in excess of that 1k. ever.

16:10:22 trinque: ben_vulpes: aint even mad; and I agree that any modified thing may not merit being called bitcoin

16:10:48 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> every large enough operation has this set of accounts that are below water - cost more to service than they're worth. which is why fiat banks are charging per account << myeah i got some of these

16:11:00 mircea_popescu: the bait and switch thing here is that the "modified thing" can only exist by itself, so it really needs us to you know, give up on bitcoin proper.

16:11:40 mircea_popescu: much like paper dollars can only exist if there's no strong currency and "welfare states" in a world without rhodesia and so on.

16:11:54 mircea_popescu: soviets need closed borders.

16:14:14 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108229 << but i do agree with that point. we have nfi.

16:14:14 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 15:41:28; trinque: ben_vulpes: it is currently unknown what an appropriate blocksize would be

16:14:24 mircea_popescu: it's just that the "larger = better" argument is rank nonsense.

16:16:55 mircea_popescu: we might well discover that actually 1mb is way too much, and all we can afford is less.

16:17:05 mircea_popescu: hopefully this won't be the case, but the way moore's law is going...

16:23:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32600 @ 0.00029221 = 9.526 BTC [-] {2}

16:26:49 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: let us not neglect the headache of coordinating a blocksize change

16:28:22 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have the top floor of la poesia entirely to myself

16:29:15 pete_dushenski: !up saulimus

16:29:22 pete_dushenski: !up diato

16:29:27 pete_dushenski: !up diatonic

16:29:53 diatonic: I can't figure out the new process to !up myself with assbot

16:29:53 pete_dushenski: ;;seen thestringpuller

16:29:54 gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 5 hours, 46 minutes, and 1 second ago: <thestringpuller> ^- close the bet

16:30:01 pete_dushenski: odd.

16:30:06 diatonic: I can decrypt the string

16:30:31 pete_dushenski: then tell assbot '!v <decrypted string>'

16:30:38 diatonic: ahh, thanks

16:30:44 diatonic: couldn't find that info anywhere

16:30:45 pete_dushenski: np.

16:30:59 pete_dushenski: !help

16:30:59 assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot

16:31:14 pete_dushenski: ^for future reference

16:31:48 ben_vulpes: who're you, diatonic?

16:32:20 ben_vulpes: friend of ascii*?

16:33:39 diatonic: ben_vulpes, I don't really know why I lurk in here. I used to be pretty active in #bitcoin-otc and joined this channel some time ago.

16:34:31 diatonic: Wanted to get more in to trading

16:36:57 Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: actually got a text message from thestringpuller this morning, he’s still alive!

16:38:49 pete_dushenski: Pierre_Rochard: hey no way! good news.

16:38:50 felipelalli: pete_dushenski: I didn't know the shortcut "!v", I always type "!verify", thanks.

16:44:46 williamdunne: OK, I think ScoopBot should behave himself now

16:45:05 *: williamdunne thinks

16:46:37 ben_vulpes: don't think, test :P

16:46:52 williamdunne: Can't test until there is a new post unfortunately

16:47:09 lobbes: can't you put a dummy blog in the list and test?

16:47:11 williamdunne: Well, I could but it would be more difficult than it is worth, so I'll just wait until a post comes up

16:47:28 williamdunne: Yeah, that'd be the easyish way, don't have a blog I can use to test it on atm

16:47:30 *: lobbes doesn't really know, just curious

16:49:57 lobbes: create a blogspot or something? I have no idea if blogspot outputs data in the same way that scoopbot reads the others, but it is free and fairly quick to create one

16:51:55 williamdunne: I'll stick up a wordpress

16:53:44 BingoBoingo: Look at the derps herping that nopeone wants their terp http://wptavern.com/wordpress-org-now-requires-theme-authors-to-use-the-customizer-to-build-theme-options

16:53:47 assbot: WordPress.org Now Requires Theme Authors to Use the Customizer to Build Theme Options ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXoaQI )

16:53:47 ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> Can't test /me raises an eyebrow

16:54:47 *: ben_vulpes wonders how this rss bot is built such that it can't be tested

16:56:00 williamdunne: ben_vulpes: It was more out of laziness

16:56:36 ben_vulpes: isn't it always...

17:00:46 williamdunne: !up diatonic

17:02:06 scoopbot_revived: News! I am scoopbot URL: https://scoopbot.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/i-am-scoopbot-2/

17:02:07 assbot: I am scoopbot | scoopbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXpumF )

17:02:15 williamdunne: Its alive

17:09:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00029651 = 3.4988 BTC [+]

17:11:10 BingoBoingo: mod6: On the foundation page "This sotware is provided by The Bitcoin Foundation `as is' and any express or implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose are disclaimed."

17:11:29 mike_c: wusses :)

17:18:35 Pierre_Rochard: dogecoin “creator” upset that his new altcoin launch flopped: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/33lwye/creator_of_dogecoin_i_see_no_longterm_future_for/

17:18:37 assbot: Creator of Dogecoin - "I see no long-term future for #Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies at this point" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXrZW1 )

17:19:00 Pierre_Rochard: context: https://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/33hdvo/feedback_needed_neucoin_distribution_to_dogecoin/

17:19:03 assbot: Feedback needed: NeuCoin distribution to Dogecoin holders : dogecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXs4Jc )

17:21:31 williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: Lottery winning janitor annoyed new lottery ticket didn't win

17:22:22 Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: swears loudly that he’ll never play the lottery again. such threat. very wow.

17:22:39 williamdunne: many regrets

17:22:55 Pierre_Rochard: buy high sell low will do that

17:25:22 williamdunne: does the nakamoto institute have an RSS feed?

17:26:33 Pierre_Rochard: yup http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/feed/

17:26:34 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXtxiC )

17:26:52 Pierre_Rochard: posting has been… sporadic as of late

17:26:53 ben_vulpes: THANKS MIKE_C

17:27:21 williamdunne: Awesome, yeah, I've been hoping for more articles. Anyone got any objections to adding the nakamotoinstitute to scoopbot?


17:29:54 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: qntsideration : http://dpaste.com/3NGVDY3.txt

17:29:55 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXu44k )

17:31:23 pete_dushenski: williamdunne: i'd vote against krawisz being added. if Pierre_Rochard or bitstein were writing...

17:31:57 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Technically I can filter by author, but I know I personally like all of their writing

17:32:11 williamdunne: But if thats what people want me to do..

17:32:53 Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: daniel has not written on the block size issue specifically at SNI

17:33:04 pete_dushenski: if you can filter by author for pierre and mike, i'd say go for it

17:33:08 mike_c: ben_vulpes: don't get mad at me because the foundation has tiny balls.

17:33:15 mike_c: bingo is the one who pointed it out :D

17:34:16 Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: I would say neh just on account of inactivity for the time being

17:34:29 trinque: mike_c: dunno why they'd vouch for the quality of something they haven't rewritten fully yet

17:34:40 Pierre_Rochard: if/when we start putting up more content I’ll advocate for adding it

17:35:06 williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: Sure thing, I won't add it then. It doesn't really use any resources in particular to add it but your call

17:35:33 pete_dushenski: Pierre_Rochard: true, but he's hoisted himself on his own petard on a few other topics

17:35:42 pete_dushenski: eg 'who controls bitcoin'

17:36:43 Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: ah fair enough.

17:36:58 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Don't suppose I could have a link?

17:37:03 Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: bitstein has his own blog but I see no RSS http://bitstein.org/blog/

17:37:04 assbot: Blog | Bitstein | Bitstein ... ( http://bit.ly/1yXvko7 )

17:37:08 Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/who-controls-bitcoin/

17:37:09 assbot: Who Controls Bitcoin? | Satoshi Nakamoto Institute ... ( http://bit.ly/1yZ8tCx )

17:38:17 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Oh yes, I remember the article now. What did you object to in it?

17:38:47 williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: Thanks for the link to his personal blog, I'll have a read

17:39:05 pete_dushenski: "We'll assume that there is some real disagreement about whether the upgrade is a good idea because if there was not, then there would be no problem."

17:39:16 pete_dushenski: not much of an assumption upon which to base an entire article

17:39:31 pete_dushenski: everyone here is pretty well decided, and so it is

17:39:49 pete_dushenski: whatever's outside are but the fans at home telling the coach what plays to call

17:39:59 williamdunne: Seems like a fair statement, if there is a change everyone agrees on the only issue is those too lazy to update

17:40:33 pete_dushenski: or it would be if this was about opinions instead of what must be done for survival

17:40:39 Pierre_Rochard: I thought it was a fine post, the only issue being it’s context and subtext

17:40:43 Pierre_Rochard: its8

17:40:45 Pierre_Rochard: its*

17:42:09 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Would you have preferred it had he worded it as your choice is based upon the choices of those superior in your WoT? i.e if BitPay is at the top of my WoT (lol) and they are on newcoin, I'll be on newcoin

17:42:21 williamdunne: Or if Mircea, oldcoin

17:43:40 pete_dushenski: tbh i dun really care what he does.

17:44:03 pete_dushenski: he can 'teach the controversy' all he wants but he's going to end up grouped alongside monsanto for it

17:44:11 pete_dushenski: "Most nodes are dead weight." << also rubbish

17:45:00 pete_dushenski: "An upgrade which allows for larger block sizes is also likely to be adopted because the current limit of 1 MB will eventually limit Bitcoin's value as a form of money." << idem.

17:45:37 pete_dushenski: kid never read the logs, what can you expect ?

17:46:11 Pierre_Rochard: ah forgot that sentence was in there! unacceptabru

17:46:17 pete_dushenski: anywho, off to yoga. later gang!

17:46:28 williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Enjoy

17:47:35 Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: I’m also putting together my own personal blog, I’ll let you know once I have an RSS feed put together

17:47:35 scoopbot_revived: News! Confirmation of Life - 30 minute test URL: https://scoopbot.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/confirmation-of-life-30-minute-test/

17:47:36 assbot: Confirmation of Life – 30 minute test | scoopbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gbt6hJ )

17:47:45 williamdunne: Pierre_Rochard: Yes please

17:48:38 williamdunne: Okay, so scoopbot's concurrency now definitely works. Yay.

17:51:51 trinque: williamdunne: nice

17:59:41 mats: that feeling when you sit down and the seat is still warm

18:00:44 mats: an intimate moment where two butts reach across the cosmos and touch for an instant

18:03:01 lobbes: poetry by mats

18:03:53 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108347 <<< tell him to quit his sulking and come back, i still <3 him afterall

18:03:53 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 16:36:57; Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: actually got a text message from thestringpuller this morning, he’s still alive!

18:04:03 BingoBoingo: mike_c: I was pointing out "sotware"

18:04:25 mike_c: fine, leave me out on a limb

18:04:49 mike_c: do foundation emails have a disclaimer at the bottom telling me to delete it if i got it in error?

18:05:11 mike_c: (I don't really care about this though, disclaim away)

18:07:51 mats: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/world/asia/2-qaeda-hostages-were-accidentally-killed-in-us-raid-white-house-says.html << so, when's the trial and who's gonna hang?

18:07:54 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1I0nVGi )

18:08:28 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108367 <<< plz no brony shit kthx http://memecrunch.com/meme/I4UY/fat-brony/image.jpg

18:08:28 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 17:02:06; scoopbot_revived: News! I am scoopbot URL: https://scoopbot.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/i-am-scoopbot-2/

18:08:29 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1I0o4tf )

18:14:09 BingoBoingo: dammit

18:14:23 BingoBoingo: fxd

18:14:55 williamdunne: cazalla: updated for you

18:14:56 scoopbot_revived: News! MtGox Trustee has 200k Bitcoins, Creditors to Line Up as Bankruptcy Progresses URL: http://qntra.net/2015/04/mtgox-trustee-has-200k-bitcoins-creditors-to-line-up-as-bankruptcy-progresses/

18:14:57 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1GbxCwG )

18:28:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23545 @ 0.00029111 = 6.8542 BTC [-] {2}

18:37:18 ben_vulpes: cazalla: i found a bronies store in bsas. was completely baffled.

18:39:04 cazalla: imagine taking your kids to some junk toy store for some made in china plastic shit only to find grown ass men clamouring over your daughter to reach the toys before she can get to them

18:39:47 williamdunne: Men might be a little generous

18:45:21 scoopbot_revived: News! Ransomware Inception URL: http://qntra.net/2015/04/ransomware-inception/

18:45:21 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1I0vzQV )

18:45:25 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i have nfi why anyone would care what shittomatic says

18:45:38 mircea_popescu: i mean obviously, they want access to the walled garden of idiots, but this is a mirage.

18:45:47 mircea_popescu: i guess takes time for kids to learn what mirages are.

18:47:06 cazalla: i wonder if there is a small business to be had recovering family photos/video for people infected by that shit? charge them twice the amount of the ransom (paid upfront of course)

18:47:08 mircea_popescu: lol Pierre_Rochard. these twerps are all on the same rubber band. 1. mp wrote we're shit because mp's jealous, not because we're shit. 2 ??? 3. bitcoin doesn't exist.

18:47:56 mircea_popescu: <williamdunne> Awesome, yeah, I've been hoping for more articles. Anyone got any objections to adding the nakamotoinstitute to scoopbot? << it all depends on whether they continue pushing insanities a la gavincoin.

18:48:49 mircea_popescu: mike_c what'd they specifically say tho ? "we guarantee this code with ..." ? what ... ?

18:48:56 mats: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1502.07373v2.pdf 'The Spy in the Sandbox: Practical Cache Attacks in JavaScript'

18:48:59 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1I0wdOh )

18:49:24 mircea_popescu: mats understand, the bdsm thing is not drastically intended to be secure.

18:49:29 mircea_popescu: it's just intended to be web secure.

18:49:40 mircea_popescu: you won't be able to make browser gossipd that'd for damned sure.

18:51:52 mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> mike_c: I was pointing out "sotware" << sotware lol. as in, "you sot"!

18:54:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00029028 = 4.8186 BTC [-]

18:57:02 mircea_popescu: williamdunne refresh me, what is dunnecapital ltd uk ?

18:57:40 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Was the name of an exchange I am working on

18:57:50 mircea_popescu: btcentralplus.com ?

18:58:15 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: thats the ISP I used to have?

18:58:22 mircea_popescu: oh derp. fucking isps lol

18:58:28 mircea_popescu: grep found it because obvously, "btc".

18:59:21 williamdunne: btc entral plus exchange, pretty catchy

18:59:43 mircea_popescu: aanyways. you actually intend to develop that bdsm thing ?

18:59:54 mircea_popescu: it's a huge time investment, and it really won't work halfway.

19:00:06 mircea_popescu: if it works at all. max guy doesn't have a point about women, but he does have a point about stupid.

19:00:11 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I can do it, but I'm not hugely interested in running it as a business

19:00:35 mircea_popescu: how'd you intend to do it ?

19:00:53 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Well either I'd make it so it almost completely handles itself, or let someone else run it after I build it

19:01:12 mircea_popescu: that part i got.

19:01:25 mircea_popescu: i don't see specifically whatr running. you can't moderate it anyway.

19:02:08 williamdunne: Well dependent on the business model it could be easy or complex

19:03:03 mircea_popescu: this is still pretty vague. but my q was more technical-oriented. i dunno if "facebook clone" package exists. seems likely it might.

19:03:13 mircea_popescu: one could conceivably bolt extant js to that be done in a day.

19:03:18 mircea_popescu: if product a bit shoddy.

19:04:08 williamdunne: Ah sorry, well it depends. Obviously its a pretty lose spec but I'd probably go for something that has all the basic functionality built on a probably ASP stack, rather than doing anything too fancy with pretty colours everywhere

19:04:36 mircea_popescu: asp.net, srsly ?

19:04:41 mircea_popescu: what was multibet in ?

19:04:56 williamdunne: PHP even worse, yeah asp or phoenix framework

19:05:00 williamdunne: Maybe D... but less likely

19:05:13 mircea_popescu: i don't even think anyone has windows servers

19:05:29 mircea_popescu: certainly the first time i heard this one proposed.

19:05:53 williamdunne: Its pretty good, all ties in really well with various meta-db layers

19:06:15 williamdunne: Same with Elixir really

19:06:18 mircea_popescu: it's a good thing alf's in the air.

19:06:31 williamdunne: Yes, I know you're less fond of windows aha

19:06:48 williamdunne: But its a BDSM site storing data encrypted client-side, hardly need for uber security

19:07:08 trinque: get you a postgresql, son

19:07:13 mircea_popescu: there's two problems here. one being that if nobody has windows servers nobody can, in an emergency say, provie a backup.

19:07:16 mircea_popescu: so maintainability.

19:07:21 williamdunne: trinque: I normally use postgre

19:07:44 williamdunne: trinque: Well thats a lie, I normally do if working in Elixir/Phoenix

19:07:45 mircea_popescu: the other is that well, we don't know how efficient it is. ie, how much bw/packetage/userbase it can support per mm of hardware.

19:08:32 mircea_popescu: does something like gluster even exist for mvc ?

19:08:44 mircea_popescu: or we the clustering thing is called, gaproxy ?

19:08:56 trinque: mircea_popescu: replication at the db layer is what's called for there

19:09:09 williamdunne: I don't have any statistics about performance but I've found it works pretty well. I've only done basic clustering before using it tbh, doing things like sharing secrets for authentication

19:09:09 mircea_popescu: does it work ?

19:09:26 trinque: if you're read heavy works great, if you're write heavy gets harder

19:09:38 mircea_popescu: this promises to be the worst mix.

19:09:49 mircea_popescu: ie, reads and writes

19:10:40 williamdunne: Surely all of the heavy-writing would just be in the form of files

19:10:50 trinque: seems like a social thing calls for a message queue

19:10:50 williamdunne: Can't imagine it would be all that write-heavy

19:11:35 mats: https://wapiflapi.github.io/2015/04/22/single-null-byte-heap-overflow is purty

19:11:37 assbot: Visualizing a single null-byte heap overflow exploitation · @wapiflapi ... ( http://bit.ly/1K9PjAS )

19:11:54 trinque: williamdunne: what is it, just profiles and people sending messages and comments, etcd?

19:11:56 trinque: *etc

19:12:16 williamdunne: trinque: Yeah, and photos which obviously would just be in a file container

19:13:03 trinque: postgresql is a badder beast than most think

19:13:07 mircea_popescu: williamdunne lots and lots of updates.

19:13:52 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: I can't imagine it would ever become a problem for SQLserver, if it did we could just shard it like hell. Its not like it needs sub 1 second latency on everything

19:14:13 mircea_popescu: nah, for all i care make a fixed 2 second delay.

19:14:22 mircea_popescu: encourage user to think before posting

19:14:48 williamdunne: Exactly, so we could shard the database a stupid amount, and stick half of it in NoSQL for things like private messages

19:15:11 trinque: nosql is a terrible idea man, always

19:15:14 mircea_popescu: im not proposing it's an unapproachable problem by any means.

19:15:18 trinque: your data storing thing should be aware of structure

19:15:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00029253 = 2.7498 BTC [+]

19:15:30 trinque: otherwise that ends up being implemented in shitty form in the app layer

19:16:02 williamdunne: trinque: Meh, less of an issue for relatively basic data like private messages

19:16:23 trinque: sure, everyone always thinks they can handle reimplementing the database until complexity grows to a point where it falls inward on itself

19:17:29 trinque: code gets littered with message v1 v2 v3 handling code, and you become less and less able to reason about the concept "message"

19:18:01 williamdunne: trinque: Either way, it anything high volume like that can be done in interesting ways

19:18:27 trinque: I've seen multi-billion row postgresql clusters with heavy writes

19:18:28 williamdunne: Like it could be done via a separate system like facebook uses which uses a queue to commit to DB, but can be received before committed to the DB

19:18:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25315 @ 0.00029435 = 7.4515 BTC [+] {3}

19:18:40 trinque: williamdunne: yeah that's more acceptable

19:18:46 mircea_popescu: what's fb run on anyway ?

19:18:57 williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Its frankenstein's monster

19:19:03 trinque: afaik they use a lot of mysql among myriad other things

19:19:05 mircea_popescu: i'd expect.

19:19:05 williamdunne: A bit of PHP, a bit of C++, a bit of D

19:19:29 williamdunne: D for builds only though, in fairness

19:19:39 williamdunne: Oh

19:19:43 williamdunne: Erlang for messaging system

19:19:55 mircea_popescu: lol so fiverr is now skimming 50 cents off each job.

19:20:03 mircea_popescu: the crunch is on, bejesus.

19:20:07 williamdunne: They've been doing that for a while now

19:20:10 trinque: gogo monetization

19:20:30 mircea_popescu: this is going to be such a sad year for "web startups"...

19:20:54 williamdunne: Have you seen those Eris labs guys?

19:21:13 williamdunne: At the forefront of "the blockchain of things" lo

19:21:20 mircea_popescu: vaguely.

19:21:27 trinque: "embedding values"

19:21:31 trinque: stomach is already turned

19:21:54 williamdunne: eris industries thats the one, christ

19:22:10 jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108439 what did you do to teh poor nigga ???!!!

19:22:10 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 18:03:53; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108347 <<< tell him to quit his sulking and come back, i still <3 him afterall

19:22:24 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski cazalla still alive. just very busy in meatspace.

19:23:04 mircea_popescu: !rated thestringpuller

19:23:04 assbot: You rated user thestringpuller on 01-Feb-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: I dunno that he's ever pulled any strings..

19:23:07 williamdunne: we have a pulse

19:24:27 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller dude, listen up. i'm not going to whack you, but you gotta learn to underpromise and overdeliver.

19:26:52 thestringpuller: yup. learning requires lessons which each have their various costs.

19:27:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00029028 = 2.7577 BTC [-]

19:32:28 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market buttchina

19:32:31 gribble: BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.5633, Best ask: 235.564914, Bid-ask spread: 0.00161, Last trade: 235.55523, 24 hour volume: 78611.17550000, 24 hour low: 234.03, 24 hour high: 238.12149, 24 hour vwap: 235.614537073

19:44:37 jurov: http://tiffzhang.com/startup/ heh gut

19:44:38 assbot: Startup Generator ... ( http://bit.ly/1Doemvi )

19:46:50 williamdunne: jurov: Painfully realistic

19:47:11 jurov: http://tiffzhang.com/startup/index.html?s=49029980379 hahaha you can use this for the bdsm job

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19:48:24 mircea_popescu: lmao

19:48:45 mircea_popescu: what is with the popped collars @girl!

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20:06:10 hanbot: so here's one: fiverr localized to arg has a welcome pic of a pretty woman singing in a mic. override to english? neotenous hipster kid, srsly looks like an 11 year old in thickrimmed glasses.

20:07:27 mircea_popescu: are you making fun of my good friend in rome ?

20:07:30 mircea_popescu: biggus dickus ?

20:07:47 hanbot: lol

20:16:27 williamdunne: welease wodewick

20:16:39 mircea_popescu: >D

20:17:16 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7_oNBT9wsc

20:17:17 assbot: Release Woger - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oinzjc )

20:19:37 williamdunne: Emperor Pilate is one of the handles I use online

20:29:00 fluffypony: I still have nightmares about the rabbit of Caerbannog

20:29:53 williamdunne: Fetch the holy hand grenade

20:30:56 mircea_popescu: haha. five nightmares ?

20:31:04 mircea_popescu: in other news,

20:31:06 mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/5e7348e00b74e649b22d2a86f271fa0a/tumblr_mp19tzTnVt1ssy9wfo1_1280.jpg

20:31:08 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiqfNQ )

20:31:59 williamdunne: I've found a piece of blogging software I really like, but its written in node so now I'm conflicted

20:32:01 williamdunne: Noice

20:36:04 BingoBoingo: williamdunne: rewrite it?

20:36:41 williamdunne: BingoBoingo: Considered it, could just create my own blogging platform but thats probably more effort than its worth. Only got like 3.5k views in the week

20:38:53 cazalla: http://fusion.net/story/124655/why-bitcoins-male-domination-will-be-its-downfall/ "The lack of women in Bitcoin isn?t just an issue of equality. It?s a fundamental weakness of the currency itself." ok guy whatever

20:38:54 assbot: Why Bitcoin's male domination will be its downfall | Fusion ... ( http://bit.ly/1OirUTr )

20:39:26 fluffypony: lolwut

20:39:33 fluffypony: what's next

20:39:47 fluffypony: "Why computing's male domination will be its downfall"

20:40:11 fluffypony: so looking forward to everyone abandoning computers for the abacus and typewriters

20:40:29 fluffypony: "Why spaceflight's male domination will be its downfall"

20:40:45 fluffypony: "Why commercial piloting's male domination will be its downfall"

20:40:47 mircea_popescu: they are kinda lulzy.

20:41:02 fluffypony: "Why wine making's male domination will be its downfall"

20:41:05 mircea_popescu: the english internet sounds more and more like a 11 yo girl's summer camp.

20:41:18 mircea_popescu: o srsly, you swear never to get involved with boys because they're mean ? that's nice honey.

20:41:29 *: fluffypony hands them a sports bra and a fuck off

20:42:00 mircea_popescu: anyway. bitcoin's elitism and the horde's pretentiousness is setting the stage for some pretty hardcore raping and pillaging down the road.

20:42:02 trinque: fluffypony | "Why computing's male domination will be its downfall" << now the real reason for the forced feminization of Turing took place; moar women in tech!

20:42:18 fluffypony: lol

20:42:26 mircea_popescu: somehow the idiots have lost all humility, and have absolutely no conception that yes indeed, in most situations going on your knees and begging is the correct response.

20:42:31 hanbot: williamdunne> BingoBoingo: Considered it, could just create my own blogging platform but thats probably more effort than its worth. Only got like 3.5k views in the week << it's either worth the effort or not on its own merits, effects have no place in the consideration there, eh?

20:43:07 mircea_popescu: hanbot honestly it's kinda not worth the effort. a wp 2.x can be hacked into enough blog platform for what one could conceivably need.

20:44:01 hanbot: so what, that which can be frankensteined into working doesn't deserve to be made as a whole, from the start?

20:44:28 mircea_popescu: nah, just, this particular thing is kinda derpy to begin with. who cares special stones to throw at dogs ?

20:44:35 mircea_popescu: pick up whatever's handy.

20:44:53 mircea_popescu: "blogging. a tech problem not worth solving"

20:45:07 mircea_popescu: cms-ing moar generally. ben_vulpes prolly has the right idea.

20:45:59 mircea_popescu: it was born essentially as the first bezzle thing, "we'll make you a Content Management System" to justify X agency spending more on a website than it's worth.

20:48:19 hanbot: i see. well, at least this is an argument against the thing itself rather than its possible outcomes.

20:50:51 BingoBoingo: General CMS seems solved http://werc.cat-v.org/ the blogging flavor could use twerk

20:50:52 assbot: werc - A sane web anti-framework ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oiurgy )

20:55:43 *: fluffypony wouldn't touch WordPress with a bargepole

20:55:50 fluffypony: I'll stick to Jekyll, thanks

20:59:26 *: williamdunne well personally I'm going to go back to my charcoal and cave wall

21:03:06 trinque: I tend to prefer static sites where they can be had

21:03:11 trinque: not much to break

21:04:00 trinque: that most web framework things expect to regenerate each page every time is insane

21:04:18 trinque: "but this is how we've always done it!"

21:04:56 trinque: yes and paper should be printed right as you are turning the page

21:09:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00029028 = 1.3353 BTC [-]

21:10:53 mircea_popescu: trinque you seriously can run a site as flat html and just awk it into submission

21:10:59 mircea_popescu: better than serving dynamically anyway

21:11:45 trinque: indeed, for many sites it's exactly the right way

21:11:59 mircea_popescu: in retrospect, i suspect my above comments were more a reflection of my personal disinclination to put anything into cms/blog platforms. seeing how fraudsters already exists.

21:12:02 mircea_popescu: !up Naphex

21:12:18 ben_vulpes: but commmenttttssssss!

21:12:26 hanbot: trinque yup. plenty of places online i have the distinct feeling of waving my hands around in front of the auto paper towel dispenser, to no avail, spits an ungrippable corner now and then...so -futuristic-.

21:12:35 trinque: lol

21:13:00 Naphex: o/

21:16:52 ben_vulpes: adios buenos aires!

21:17:17 mircea_popescu: adios !

21:17:41 trinque: bon voyage, see ya in the asylum

21:19:18 mircea_popescu: how goes Naphex

21:21:52 hanbot: happy travels ben_vulpes

21:32:30 fluffypony: geeeze, you comment on ONE Coindesk article about Brock Pierce, and this shit happens: http://i.imgur.com/abo2i7X.png

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21:33:30 williamdunne: Hey Naphex o/

21:33:41 williamdunne: Long time no speak, keep meaning to go on mumble..

21:33:59 williamdunne: !rate Naphex 2 Knows his shit, and knows he does

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21:34:29 williamdunne: !v assbot:williamdunne.rate.Naphex.2:19d40d8c7d1ce0e2137c60637c3d43729be585fbb03fbbb43354d445eb1a9003

21:34:29 assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for Naphex with note: Knows his shit, and knows he does

21:37:44 Naphex: mircea_popescu: great! getting ready for launch on the last run. been busy as hell. how was the conference? sorry i couldn't make it :/

21:38:46 Naphex: williamdunne: hey man. how goes it?

21:38:54 fluffypony: btw for any b-a'ers in Europe I'm going to be there for the next month, would love to meet up, or you could come to one of the Monero meetups I'll be presenting at (Brussels on May 19th, Paris on May 21st, Berlin on May 24th) or else I'll be presenting at Bitcoinference in Amsterdam on May 30/31

21:39:02 williamdunne: Naphex: Good thanks, hows stuff been your end?

21:40:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57050 @ 0.00028928 = 16.5034 BTC [-] {2}

21:42:17 Naphex: williamdunne: pretty good. been doing lots of working and on the last mile for xotika

21:43:25 williamdunne: !up naphex

21:43:48 williamdunne: Naphex: Ah yeah! Its always the last tweaks that take 2/3rds your time

21:44:41 Naphex: williamdunne: yeah, and most of the advertising and promo starts in june to match with some conference. so why rush it

21:44:55 mircea_popescu: Naphex pretty cool actually

21:44:57 mircea_popescu: !up bitx

21:44:58 williamdunne: Get it polished for the big day

21:45:01 Naphex: getting pre-regs, and stuff done meanwhile

21:45:25 williamdunne: bitx, which bitx are you from? There are like three/four of them

21:45:27 mircea_popescu: fluffypony that'll teach you to stray from the cult!

21:45:40 williamdunne: Naphex: Got the girls ready?

21:45:53 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I think he doesn't like me calling him "Pedobear Pierce" on Disqus

21:45:58 mircea_popescu: fluffypony wait, monero going on tour ?

21:46:21 bitx: williamdunne, don't usually use this name - not associated with any other bitx's

21:46:27 fluffypony: yes, a tour of Europe

21:46:30 fluffypony: like a rock tour

21:46:36 fluffypony: but less glamorous

21:46:36 williamdunne: bitx: Ah okay, I assumed you were from one of the bitx companies

21:46:42 bitx: nope, sorry

21:46:49 williamdunne: fluffypony: The groupies have hairier necks too

21:46:53 Naphex: williamdunne: yep. pre-regs and referals and romania is full of studios

21:46:55 fluffypony: that too

21:47:09 fluffypony: bitx: no associate with the South African exchange, eh?

21:47:15 williamdunne: Naphex: Stereotypes can be useful

21:47:25 mircea_popescu: Naphex a while back you could find more college chicks on webcams than @uni in any given day.

21:47:50 bitx: nope, no association with them

21:48:09 Naphex: mircea_popescu: yeah. much of numbers surprise me :P

21:48:41 mircea_popescu: plsu bulgaria, ukraina, ex-yugoslavia, poland... prolly 5mn chicks all told.

21:49:17 Naphex: also there was some raid a month ago and basicly disbanded some wierd paxum companies

21:49:27 Naphex: which were paying the girls on behalf of jasmin i think

21:50:12 Naphex: http://www.mediafax.ro/social/perchezitii-la-studiouri-video-chat-si-la-banci-intr-un-caz-de-evaziune-de-300-milioane-de-dolari-13999282

21:50:13 assbot: Percheziţii la studiouri video chat şi la bănci, într-un caz de evaziune de 300 milioane de dolari - Mediafax ... ( http://bit.ly/1DV9qAs )

21:50:14 mircea_popescu: ah i recall reading something

21:51:04 mircea_popescu: meanwhile from the yes means yes department, http://41.media.tumblr.com/8d34c556433cbde056f9ca13022b028e/tumblr_ndk9d0EwGF1tkop9po1_500.jpg

21:51:05 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DV9yQC )

21:58:45 mircea_popescu: ;;ud terfs

21:58:47 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TERF | With books and writings by TERFs like Mary Daly and Janice Raymond, feminism in the west has resulted in the denial of necessary medical care to ungodly ...

21:59:35 Pierre_Rochard: http://www.businessinsider.com/r-exclusive-bitcoin-exchange-itbit-seeks-new-york-banking-license-2015-4

21:59:36 assbot: An obscure Bitcoin exchange just filed for a banking license in New York - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1DVbicA )

21:59:50 mircea_popescu: and even moar drama emerges. apparently this is pretty bitter, too : some feminists don't agree dudes can become women.

22:00:08 Pierre_Rochard: “The bank application for itBit Trust Company LLC lists three bigwigs in government and regulatory circles as "organizers," including former Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Chairman Sheila Bair, former Financial Accounting Standards Board director Robert Herz and former New Jersey Sen. Bill Bradley. Organizers are responsible for setting up limited liability companies in New York, but do not necessarily hold

22:00:09 Pierre_Rochard: operating positions within them.”

22:01:04 Naphex: might as well get ready for govcoin. MIT, DCI, bitcoin devs, something something whitehouse

22:01:07 fluffypony: the compliance officer from itBit presented at the Bitcoin Africa conference last week

22:01:15 fluffypony: he was one of 2 presenters that wasn't completely retarded

22:01:16 mircea_popescu: that sheila bair chick sure is getting around

22:01:31 fluffypony: but he does firmly believe in *embracing regulation* before it cometh

22:01:33 fluffypony: so he's old school

22:01:39 mircea_popescu: well obviously.

22:01:44 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah, same thing. Qntra just had her first by quite a distance

22:02:09 mircea_popescu: Naphex oh, we've been getting ready fo sho.

22:02:18 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo a ok

22:02:35 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/04/new-york-update-nyse-ceo-to-teraexchange-former-fdic-chair-to-itbit/

22:02:36 assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1OF3iRI )

22:02:37 mircea_popescu: the very notion that bitcoin would have a compliance officer. bitcoin does not comply.

22:02:46 mircea_popescu: everyone else complies. us congress gets a bitcoin compliance officer.

22:03:00 fluffypony: yes but an exchange needs one

22:03:07 mircea_popescu: yeah, to comply with b-a.

22:03:10 fluffypony: because half of the exchange has to deal in some government regulated shitcoin

22:03:14 BingoBoingo: Bitcoin Compliance Officer == Mosin, well oiled

22:03:17 fluffypony: the other half is Bitcoin

22:03:43 Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: what about a compliance officer that flies around the globe verifying and signing client’s and counterparty’s GPG keys?

22:04:06 Pierre_Rochard: “comply with corporate policies” - rather than “comply with govt mandates"

22:04:26 mircea_popescu: actually... if i were a hooker, what i'd do is exactly this : fly around the globe, swallowing peeps' loads and signing their keys

22:04:31 mircea_popescu: WOT DOMINANCE

22:05:06 Pierre_Rochard: haha, +ev if you get dinner out of it too

22:05:51 mircea_popescu: defo. top chicks make a decent buck.

22:06:09 mircea_popescu: ;;google Leelah Alcorn

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22:06:11 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

22:07:15 mircea_popescu: so the million dollar question : are trannies self-harming for the same reason they're trannies, which is to say, broken fenotypes that failed to abort, like a mongoloid or a schizo ; or are trannies self-harming because being a tranny is so traumatic they get fucked up through childhood ?

22:08:53 Pierre_Rochard: “sweet 16-year-old … tender-hearted 17-year-old” - had problems with age identity too

22:09:13 mircea_popescu: age identity is a thing ?

22:11:59 Pierre_Rochard: absolutely! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OROFfLYQ0b0 (listening to lyrics, you’d think Sinatra was talking on the subject of trannies)

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22:12:03 Pierre_Rochard: singing*

22:13:25 Pierre_Rochard: To answer your million dollar question - may be both but I’d lean towards the latter, combined with the lack of emotional regulation prevalent in society

22:13:27 mircea_popescu: im drastically unaware of this.

22:13:52 mircea_popescu: i suspect age thing may be much more an issue in the us, because of idiotic alcohol laws

22:14:30 Pierre_Rochard: my tongue was firmly in cheek! Though I am ~52 yo stuck in body half that age

22:15:07 Pierre_Rochard: !up Naphex

22:15:32 mircea_popescu: lol

22:15:47 mircea_popescu: "I have decided I've had enough. I'm never going to transition successfully, even when I move out. I'm never going to be happy with the way I look or sound. I'm never going to have enough friends to satisfy me. I'm never going to have enough love to satisfy me. I'm never going to find a man who loves me. I'm never going to be happy. Either I live the rest of my life as a lonely man who wishes he were a woman or I live

22:15:47 mircea_popescu: my life as a lonelier woman who hates herself. There's no winning. There's no way out. I'm sad enough already, I don't need my life to get any worse. People say "it gets better" but that isn't true in my case. It gets worse. Each day I get worse. That's the gist of it, that's why I feel like killing myself. Sorry if that's not a good enough reason for you, it's good enough for me."

22:15:52 mircea_popescu: i dunno... seems like a perfect reason to me.

22:18:55 trinque: that whole thing seems like the suicide drive half-engaged to me

22:19:02 trinque: even aside actually killing oneself

22:19:20 mircea_popescu: howssat ?

22:19:49 williamdunne: Two hours, and I've managed to move my blog across..

22:20:15 Naphex: i'm authed with assbot, but it keeps devoicing me at timeout. wonder how long i can keep it going :P

22:20:18 Pierre_Rochard: seems to me that suicide would be a rather unhealthy response to this severe depression - some therapy, medication, and meditation would go a long ways. The problem is (its) sadness - its the fervent desire to deny and escape the sadness

22:20:21 trinque: mircea_popescu: invents impossible alternative that he must have, or else why live! as a sort of rationalization to finally get over the fear of doing it

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22:20:41 Pierre_Rochard: The problem isn’t*

22:20:42 trinque: seems like the pattern is ever-further attempts to depart reality

22:20:53 trinque: death being of course the best way to depart reality

22:20:54 mircea_popescu: !down Naphex

22:20:58 mircea_popescu: !up Naphex

22:20:59 Pierre_Rochard: trinque: right - instead of accepting it

22:21:00 mircea_popescu: you're not id'd.

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22:21:30 mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard trinque i dunno doods. seems to me the "i am not interested in participating in this world" as a perfectly valid reason.

22:21:58 mircea_popescu: Naphex so did you ever !v ?

22:22:15 Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: it’s absolutely a valid reason. That’s also a valid reason to sit and watch TV all day, play video games, or max out your credit card shopping

22:22:23 mircea_popescu: mno.

22:22:23 Naphex: !down Naphex

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22:23:14 trinque: mircea_popescu: I can see it from a completely other angle too; the culmination of this american self-starter be the change you want to see bullshit

22:23:23 trinque: you can just invent yourself, and people have to accept that

22:23:36 trinque: the self-destructiveness could be incidental

22:23:54 mircea_popescu: well, sure you can just invent yourself. people however... don't have to jack shit.

22:24:14 mircea_popescu: same nonsense as in the previous "rape" thing, "you may not dispute my feelings, you may only feel sorry for them". herp.

22:24:23 mircea_popescu: same thing as the age old "i tried therefore no one may criticize me!"

22:29:50 trinque: http://www.openbible.info/topics/equality << amuses me that this is more or less in line with that

22:29:51 assbot: What Does the Bible Say About Equality? ... ( http://bit.ly/1DVh2Da )

22:30:07 jurov: i was surprised how many people i know (including myself) considered suicide at some point. somehow, we moved on

22:30:09 trinque: yet someone who claims to follow the thing may not see how the beliefs therein lead directly to their tranny son

22:31:45 mircea_popescu: jurov i'd be very suspicious of the mental health of an adult intellect that never considered it.

22:34:01 jurov: trinque if the teaching was like "women have no soul", there'd be no trannies?

22:34:47 mircea_popescu: eh the women have no soul thing was never mainstream.

22:35:03 *: asciilifeform back in throneroom

22:36:05 jurov: go away imposter :)

22:36:42 mircea_popescu: is the throne = toilet thngfunctional in english too ?

22:37:24 trinque: jurov: its "everyone is equal and all is forgiven" that I was pointing at

22:37:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: absolutely sop

22:37:46 trinque: at least the american version I'm well acquainted with has a highly corrosive effect on one's thinker

22:37:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, what sort of 40 hours has this been ? scam!

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22:39:09 asciilifeform: 22

22:39:17 trinque: jurov: I tend to think the stupid concepts in the ideology have long outlived the actual belief in sky-dad

22:39:17 asciilifeform: ~40 there/back

22:40:15 *: asciilifeform petting pet and about to settle in for the one item we have here that is not to be found in arvalhalla - sprats!

22:41:05 mircea_popescu: didja tell her about the whores ?

22:41:10 asciilifeform: aha

22:41:19 asciilifeform: said: 'you should have attempted them'

22:42:44 mircea_popescu: see, next time bring her along, you can do it together.

22:42:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: got the gpgram, finally

22:42:53 mircea_popescu: whores lotta more fun that way anyway.

22:43:01 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: will set to work on that thing soon as i get a bit of sleep.

22:43:36 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> whores lotta more fun that way anyway. << Couples night tends to be one of the busiest at the strip clubs

22:43:42 asciilifeform: the transexual thread:

22:43:43 asciilifeform: !s fucksaw

22:43:44 assbot: 4 results for 'fucksaw' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fucksaw

22:43:59 asciilifeform: that fella (psychologist) wrote a mega-book on the subject

22:44:14 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo one of the better arguments pro harem : women know how to churn the butter outta women.

22:44:15 asciilifeform: i will not spoil it here. (he had two hypotheses, both strongly predictive)

22:45:11 asciilifeform: i'm no shrink, but i've always wondered if transsexualism is a kind of division-by-zero bug

22:45:31 asciilifeform: (i.e. how do you get 'even closer' to $motas than fucking? only one way...)

22:46:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i originally thought you'd have to be extremely bored to care, but then i discovered most females actually spent some time wanting to be male in their childhood.

22:46:09 asciilifeform: so you end up with something like 'fuck of infinite magnitude'

22:46:48 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: independent (how?) of the 'they get to drive tanks?!!11' thing ?

22:47:04 asciilifeform: as in, did they want to 'wear boy clothes and do boy things' or actually swing a cock

22:47:08 mircea_popescu: nah.

22:47:31 mircea_popescu: usually driven by "but mo-ooo-ooom!!11 i don't wanna protect my underskirt, i wanna climb in the cherry tree!!1"

22:47:40 asciilifeform: then sop

22:47:41 asciilifeform: snore.

22:47:44 mircea_popescu: yawell.

22:47:54 asciilifeform: the m2f thing is a much harded nut to crack

22:47:59 asciilifeform: *harder

22:48:06 mircea_popescu: hardly. that's basically being gay.

22:48:16 mircea_popescu: or a flavour thereof.

22:48:25 asciilifeform: well curiously, according to (fuck, what his name) that is only one of the two phenotypes

22:48:39 asciilifeform: the other would rather eat wood screws than touch man

22:48:54 asciilifeform: !s the man who would be queen

22:48:54 assbot: 1 results for 'the man who would be queen' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+man+who+would+be+queen

22:48:56 asciilifeform: ^ book

22:49:19 mircea_popescu: lol. "i'm not a normal guy, i'm a lesbian trapped in a male body"

22:49:27 asciilifeform: not far off

22:49:32 asciilifeform: from the actual statements.

22:55:17 trinque: sounds like imaginary identity bullshit

22:55:28 trinque: I'm from the andromeda galaxy

22:55:45 mircea_popescu: well... "self directed education" necessarily constructs this "imagined identity" nonsense.

22:55:52 mircea_popescu: because how else to get from point a to point b ?

22:56:12 *: trinque declares himself nuclear physicist; gimme a reactor

22:56:20 trinque: though the overflow idea has me thinking

22:56:36 trinque: maybe it's a way to sort of sneak by the normal game of trying to get female attention

22:56:49 trinque: I've noticed gay guys for example that feel they can grab tits because "not playing the game!!"

22:59:17 *: hanbot would like to see people physically manifested as the sum of the handicaps they imagine they're stuck with.

23:00:17 trinque: Harrison Bergeron highly relevant

23:00:51 mircea_popescu: "@FLAdmin: Step 1 is to disallow incoming traffic from the fraudsters domain ( This prevents people from using the hyperlinks on his page."

23:01:11 trinque: lol what

23:01:12 mircea_popescu: imagine we all died and "the web community" was stuck reimplementing the web.

23:02:47 BingoBoingo: !up ben_cash

23:02:59 ben_cash: salud

23:03:07 ben_cash: ssh from eze looks to be busted

23:03:22 ben_cash: anyways, burned the last pesos on a bottle of trumpeter

23:03:35 ben_cash: and you know? shit ain't bad.

23:04:07 ben_cash: not worth 160 pesos for 375 mL, but hey. comprolo en el aeropeurto, can't complain-o

23:04:14 mircea_popescu: nah, hard to buy genuinely bad argentinian wine

23:04:42 mircea_popescu: like it's hard to find a lithe feminist.

23:04:57 ben_cash: i finally found the pet who wanted to come home

23:05:06 ben_cash: but she got off the clock at six

23:05:22 ben_cash: or she was being polite. quien saves!

23:05:52 ben_cash: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108732 << prezactly what we do at le con

23:05:52 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 22:03:43; Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: what about a compliance officer that flies around the globe verifying and signing client’s and counterparty’s GPG keys?

23:06:43 Pierre_Rochard: certainly more efficient

23:07:00 ben_cash: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108753 << sounds like derpdaherpnanderp

23:07:00 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 22:15:47; mircea_popescu: "I have decided I've had enough. I'm never going to transition successfully, even when I move out. I'm never going to be happy with the way I look or sound. I'm never going to have enough friends to satisfy me. I'm never going to have enough love to satisfy me. I'm never going to find a man who loves me. I'm never going to be happy. Either I live the rest of my life as a lonely man who wishes he were

23:08:14 ben_cash: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108792 << plz for ams to sign a thing

23:08:14 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 22:35:03; *: asciilifeform back in throneroom

23:08:49 ben_cash: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108811 << people go to the strip club without girls???

23:08:49 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 22:43:36; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> whores lotta more fun that way anyway. << Couples night tends to be one of the busiest at the strip clubs

23:09:01 mircea_popescu: plenty do yeah

23:09:07 mircea_popescu: usually the older dudes

23:09:31 BingoBoingo: 60+ males, most vulnerable population

23:09:55 mircea_popescu: truth.

23:10:03 ben_cash: hablando variedad

23:10:19 ben_cash: whoa, mega cog diss

23:10:30 ben_cash: hispano going on at her kids in entirely unaccented english

23:12:39 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo ty for teh posting :)

23:12:45 mircea_popescu: "yeah itami, i've read those. thanks for linking me back to something which is written by someone who uses words i've never read before, googling every word is a very constructive and non-timeconsuming activity."

23:12:48 mircea_popescu: at least they're honest...

23:13:46 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell thestringpuller glad to hear you're alive! come home again soon.

23:13:46 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:13:50 BingoBoingo: Wait, in Argentina ben got married again and changed his name to Cash this time?

23:14:54 ben_cash: m-married?

23:15:01 ben_cash: oh yeah

23:15:33 pete_dushenski: ;;seen diametric

23:15:34 BingoBoingo: ben_cash: Isn't that why you usually change your irc_name

23:15:34 gribble: diametric was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 6 days, 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <diametric> http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/04/10/1541258/florida-teen-charged-with-felony-hacking-for-changing-desktop-wallpaper

23:15:40 ben_cash: well i found that old guitar players corpse in recoleta and in the grandest tradition of self-important argentines dug him up had my way with him (using court papers, of course), and then put his body elsewhere for political legitimacy

23:15:49 pete_dushenski: another one..

23:15:54 pete_dushenski: ;;seen danielpbarron

23:15:55 gribble: danielpbarron was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 3 hours, 9 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <danielpbarron> !up sickboy

23:16:01 pete_dushenski: less severe.

23:16:17 ben_cash: BingoBoingo: i'm shooting for a wife and children on each continent

23:16:30 ben_cash: some day i'll achieve one in each country!

23:16:38 asciilifeform: .deedbot http://dpaste.com/0S038SR.txt

23:16:39 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOgmkb )

23:16:58 trinque: nein

23:16:59 asciilifeform: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/0S038SR.txt

23:16:59 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1IOgvUB )

23:17:02 asciilifeform: damnit.

23:17:06 trinque: probably ate it that time

23:17:07 mircea_popescu: gpg: Good signature from "Stan

23:17:08 trinque: it's just not voiced

23:17:22 pete_dushenski: hiiiii hitler

23:18:03 ben_cash: Good signature from B98228A001ABFFC7

23:18:05 trinque: asciilifeform: message eaten

23:18:08 trinque: shall dispatch on the hour

23:18:20 trinque: I'll get that thing voicing itself this weekend

23:18:23 ben_cash: can we get deedbot- permavoiced sil vois plait?

23:18:32 trinque: ben_cash: yar ^

23:18:36 ben_cash: hyu, k

23:18:48 ben_cash: trinque: omg wait until you see my new rokkitplane

23:18:55 trinque: I am excite

23:19:10 trinque: and also generally to hear of the rumored land beyond

23:19:15 ben_cash: once i get the requisite harnesses you can put your butt in it as well

23:19:40 ben_cash: mircea_popescu: btw i took your text height advice to heart and have never been happier

23:20:09 ben_cash: but now i need to procure a 15" portable again

23:20:45 mircea_popescu: ha!

23:21:21 Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: you trying out for activity compliance officer?

23:21:31 pete_dushenski: ben_cash go 17"

23:21:43 pete_dushenski: Pierre_Rochard there's tryouts ?

23:22:22 Pierre_Rochard: yup, coach thinks you’ve got a shot this year

23:22:44 ben_cash: boarding group #1...

23:24:14 ben_cash: pete_dushenski: i have 2 24" monitors at the workstation...

23:24:26 *: asciilifeform begins to feel the microbes catching up with him

23:24:29 ben_cash: also the 17" won't fit in my diplomat.

23:24:43 ben_cash: asciilifeform: aha the curse?

23:24:52 asciilifeform: ben_cash: it, or another, aha

23:25:00 pete_dushenski: Pierre_Rochard well if coach thinks so..

23:25:44 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108732 << well i do travel enough.

23:25:44 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 22:03:43; Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: what about a compliance officer that flies around the globe verifying and signing client’s and counterparty’s GPG keys?

23:26:06 Pierre_Rochard: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108605 < is the preferred term “crypto-patriarchy” or “crypto-feudalism”? I like both

23:26:06 assbot: Logged on 23-04-2015 20:38:53; cazalla: http://fusion.net/story/124655/why-bitcoins-male-domination-will-be-its-downfall/ "The lack of women in Bitcoin isn?t just an issue of equality. It?s a fundamental weakness of the currency itself." ok guy whatever

23:26:22 *: asciilifeform pictures an opposite, 'defiance officer'

23:26:29 ben_cash: Could not find artifact me.raynes.conch:me.raynes.conch:jar:0.8.0 in clojars << EZE is officially on my shitlist now

23:26:32 pete_dushenski: ben_cash what's a 'diplomat' other than a well-connected wine drinker ?

23:26:48 mircea_popescu: ssh is a privilege not a right!

23:26:54 mircea_popescu: terrorist!

23:27:09 trinque: I bet you've got a nice wifi splash page in that jar

23:27:11 asciilifeform: ''tis a privilege to pee! you come down and pay the fee!' (tm) (r)

23:28:09 asciilifeform: ben_cash: all 4 airports i just walked through were ham-handedly boojummed in this way

23:28:33 ben_cash: ;afeosmifhgwiuneghviwu4nehrgmaeil

23:28:41 ben_cash: mircea_popescu: i want this skull on my desk

23:28:47 asciilifeform: vpn over dns to a real box, say

23:29:01 asciilifeform: (or something similarly baroque but foolproof)

23:29:14 mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard privilege and elitism should also be in there

23:29:32 ben_cash: pete_dushenski: the exquisitely well hand crafted leather nuke suitcase i carry.

23:29:58 asciilifeform: Pierre_Rochard: in some places called 'attache'

23:30:09 ben_cash: asciilifeform: next trip.

23:30:21 ben_cash: i've approximately 3 minutes before i get on this plane.

23:30:29 *: asciilifeform actually brought own modem, but it was a sc4m

23:31:11 pete_dushenski: ben_cash a cool. got a pic ?

23:31:25 ben_cash: of my briefcase? lolno

23:31:31 ben_cash: might as well take a picture of my shoe

23:31:50 pete_dushenski: so take a picture of your shoe

23:31:55 ben_cash: also leather, well-crafted,

23:32:08 ben_cash: entirely common device among civilized people. unremarkable, one might say.

23:32:41 pete_dushenski: ben_cash whatever lol. link a pic or something if cameras are too complikated.

23:32:45 mircea_popescu: attache on head!

23:32:51 ben_cash: right up there with home-rolled entropy pool.

23:32:59 ben_cash: "high tech", as herr lifeform says.

23:34:55 BingoBoingo: !up ben_cash

23:35:16 ben_cash: gratzi bb

23:35:23 ben_cash: pete_dushenski: i expected you to carry one of sealfur, to be honest!

23:35:42 ben_cash: pete_dushenski: http://www.josephhannaleather.com/collections/briefcases-laptop-cases/products/briefcase << the precise model, if you're curious

23:35:44 pete_dushenski: haha cuz canadians club seals for lulz?

23:36:03 pete_dushenski: you know mine's made of newborn's foreskin ;)

23:36:31 ben_cash: has survived nearly an entire decade, with only one modification: additional hole in the shoulder strap for bike-compatibility

23:37:20 pete_dushenski: ah. i use paniers

23:37:43 pete_dushenski: shawp bag btw!

23:37:46 ben_cash: faggot

23:37:57 ben_cash: heeee

23:37:59 ben_cash: thanks, boss

23:38:15 ben_cash: that bag is actually the best example of inflation in action i've yet seen

23:38:26 pete_dushenski: oh?

23:38:27 ben_cash: cost 325 when i bought it eight years ago

23:38:51 *: ben_cash thinks

23:38:54 ben_cash: 280 mebbe?

23:39:57 ben_cash: anyways, meticulously designed. can be carried through pouring rain, and due to the excellent design of the strap mounting points not. a. single. drop. ever. reaches. the. interior.

23:40:09 ben_cash: even on bike!

23:40:38 ben_cash: i must now stand in line.

23:40:46 ben_cash: the indignity.

23:40:51 ben_cash: "cattle class".

23:40:57 ben_cash: au revoir!

23:43:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15474 @ 0.00027654 = 4.2792 BTC [-] {2}

23:44:31 BingoBoingo: ;;seen nubbins'

23:44:31 gribble: I have not seen nubbins'.

23:45:22 mike_c: ;;seen nubbins`

23:45:22 gribble: nubbins` was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 5 hours, 50 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <nubbins`> oh right, yeah

23:49:02 *: pete_dushenski goes to set up his camera and read poems

23:51:08 mircea_popescu: o hey! looking forward.

23:51:24 mircea_popescu: meanwhile "This guy is a rich bored misogynistic scumbag looking to stir shit up. This is CEO-level Trolling. What he's doing is technically legal, and even if it weren't, he has the money to keep it tied up in courts forever if not win outright. Unfortunately the worldwide legal system is run on money rather than justice, and Fetlife HAS tried to take appropriate legal action against him to no avail. This is yet anoth

23:51:24 mircea_popescu: er shitty case where women must protect themselves from what boils down to a lack of actual justice."

23:51:34 mircea_popescu: why the fuck is it that people can't ever just you know, be wrong anymore ?

23:51:56 mircea_popescu: either my way or "lack of justice". kinda dilutes the point for all those who fiund themselves bona fide in this situation.

23:53:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5126 @ 0.00027047 = 1.3864 BTC [-]

23:55:20 *: BingoBoingo waits for the fetlife "Sugar Daddy" list to appear on The Whet

23:55:56 mircea_popescu: lawl

23:56:21 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i doubt hanbot cares enough. but, part of the perks of this deal - qntra now has bulletproof hosting as part of the package.

23:58:12 BingoBoingo: Eh, meatlist contents... rather disappointing

23:58:42 mircea_popescu: how so ?

23:58:59 *: hanbot could indeed not be assed, not nearly as generous as mp.

23:58:59 scoopbot_revived: News! Explore the Web of Trust URL: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2015/explore-the-web-of-trust/

23:59:00 assbot: Explore the Web of Trust - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1OMdPc2 )

23:59:07 mircea_popescu: yay.

23:59:11 mircea_popescu: dude it's so great when shit works.