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00:03:48 punkman: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-bernini-criminal-complaint-slovakia-20150803-story.html

00:03:50 assbot: Bernini bust at Getty Museum prompts criminal complaint in Slovakia - LA Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1V1aGd8 )

00:06:06 lobbes: !up lobbesbot

00:06:22 lobbesbot: !up

00:06:34 lobbes: !down lobbesbot

00:07:00 punkman: found the art links through this rabbit hole http://www.anonymousswisscollector.com/

00:07:02 assbot: Anonymous Swiss Collector ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kd0hIf )

00:12:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.00072326 = 20.6129 BTC [+] {3}

00:24:32 punkman: "What every digital goldbug should be thinking right now: if this can happen with block size, it can happen to the 21m supply cap."

00:28:28 trinque: whether it can happen is by no means decided yet.

00:29:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45450 @ 0.00071406 = 32.454 BTC [-] {3}

00:29:34 trinque: or if it did on some forkchain, who cares? that one will inflate

00:29:35 punkman: there will be derps herping about 21m cap.

00:30:49 trinque: there surely will

00:31:47 trinque: jurov: I still cant change settings for myself in mailman

00:31:55 mircea_popescu: "this" "can" "happen". except lol mkay.

00:32:28 mircea_popescu: punkman yes of course. just as soon as there's observable value everywhere a horde of shitheads with spoons are moving towards it.

00:32:43 punkman: Szabo: "A retail payment system that makes the consumer worry about two prices instead of one is far inferior to system where merchant pays tx fee."

00:36:18 mircea_popescu: a retail payment system that isn't visa is going to be inferior to a retail payment system that is visa for the foreseeable future.

00:36:29 mircea_popescu: for very obvious reasons only a retard needs delineated.

00:37:47 mircea_popescu: <trinque> or if it did on some forkchain, who cares? that one will inflate << and for a while it will be "just as good as bitcoin" except "better", like all other scamcoins to date. like ethereum, and next before it, and aurora coin before it, and solidcoin before it and so on.

00:38:01 mircea_popescu: ppl really need to to a diff between realsolid's claims in 2012 and gavin's claims in 2015

00:38:20 mircea_popescu: the lulz so produced should fill any lulztreasury.

00:39:10 mircea_popescu: what was the one with the contracts i forgety

00:39:12 mircea_popescu: oh ripple right

00:42:58 mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform and whoever else is privately thinking of reimplementing pgp : one thing i'd dearly love would be the ability to encrypt not to X, but to "l1".

00:43:08 mircea_popescu: i'd seriously consider publishing fraudsters as such if a way for this existed.

00:43:24 mircea_popescu: sadly it doesn't seem matematically possible to have this miracle.

00:45:12 punkman: mircea_popescu: perfectly possible

00:45:19 mircea_popescu: do tell ?

00:45:29 mircea_popescu: via gossipd, is the closest i can see.

00:45:45 punkman: when multiple recipients, gpg makes a key, encrypts content with that key, the encrypt key separately for each recipient

00:45:53 mircea_popescu: multiple UNSPECIFIED recipients.

00:46:08 mircea_popescu: or as the case may be, specified by reference.

00:47:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19600 @ 0.00070478 = 13.8137 BTC [-]

00:49:19 punkman: reference to what?

00:50:30 mircea_popescu: l1 in the example

00:51:14 punkman: and it has to keep working when you add or remove people from l1?

00:51:21 mircea_popescu: add.

00:52:57 punkman: I don't see how that'd be possible

00:53:25 mircea_popescu: gossipd the best i can think of.

00:53:59 punkman: yeah but that's not "encrypt to UNSPECIFIED set of keys"

01:10:38 ben_vulpes: dude autodesk fusion 360 does the DUMBEST POSSIBLE THING for EVERY constraint

01:15:48 ben_vulpes: does actually have a notion of part-level constraints but only "joints"

01:15:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.000705 = 4.5825 BTC [+]

01:15:58 ben_vulpes: which i suppose are nominally the same but raaaaa

01:16:09 ben_vulpes: solve my system of equations goddamnit don't try to intuit what i mean

01:34:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.000705 = 4.512 BTC [+]

01:39:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.000705 = 24.8865 BTC [+]

01:41:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29748 @ 0.000705 = 20.9723 BTC [+]

02:19:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00070478 = 3.8058 BTC [-]

02:54:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00070478 = 20.791 BTC [-]

03:01:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17799 @ 0.000705 = 12.5483 BTC [+]

03:08:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00071237 = 9.1896 BTC [+] {2}

03:09:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72700 @ 0.00071183 = 51.75 BTC [-] {4}

03:21:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7999 @ 0.00071338 = 5.7063 BTC [+]

03:28:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00071338 = 24.7543 BTC [+]

03:36:02 mod6: dang, so close. i've basically got a rel1.vpatch and a rel2.vpatch all set -- but I'm seeing one strange thing... after doing the one-shot patching of either: rel1.vpatch leaves an empty 'makefile.linux-mingw' and 'qtui.h', while rel2.vpatch leaves an empty 'irc.h' and 'irc.cpp'.

03:37:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105295 @ 0.0007071 = 74.4541 BTC [-] {3}

03:43:27 phf: mod6: try running patch with -E ?

03:43:50 mod6: yeah, just did. solves it.

03:44:05 phf: mod6: in fact if you read patch man page, you'll see that us stripping dates basically broke that functionality

03:44:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20856 @ 0.00070478 = 14.6989 BTC [-] {2}

03:53:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00070458 = 11.4142 BTC [-] {3}

03:59:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54607 @ 0.00070784 = 38.653 BTC [+] {3}

04:01:07 mod6: oh the functionallity of "automatically pruning empty files" ?

04:01:25 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://fraudsters.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/#comment-115108

04:01:26 assbot: These people should be shot, basically. on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLfqT6 )

04:02:17 phf: mod6: yes

04:03:04 phf: "Normally this option is unnecessary, since patch can exam- ine the time stamps on the header to determine whether a file should exist after patching."

04:06:46 mod6: ah, thx phf

04:07:44 mod6: now my sha256 manifests match from the original to the one-shot whole orchestra

04:07:58 mod6: for rel1 & rel2

04:12:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60500 @ 0.00071531 = 43.2763 BTC [+] {3}

04:14:25 mircea_popescu: win.

04:26:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67039 @ 0.00071776 = 48.1179 BTC [+] {4}

04:34:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00072352 = 7.3799 BTC [+] {3}

04:36:02 mod6: This script is huge, but does quite a bit too. I'll post it and the resulting rel1.vpatch and rel2.vpatch here in a bit.

04:49:18 mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque & all: For your review. http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/orc.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1.vpatch && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2.vpatch

04:49:19 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1DW3w5F )

04:49:20 assbot: Error ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVpAq )

04:49:21 assbot: Error ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVpAu )

04:50:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00072582 = 24.9682 BTC [+] {4}

04:50:29 mod6: I dunno why it says error... links work for me.

04:50:51 mod6: Anyway, here are the hashes for the rel1.vpatch & rel2.vpatch

04:50:51 mod6: SHA256 (rel1.vpatch) = 717171ffffce57b7008968a4d8eb2a627f8fe45e4ed8eb15634fd1c1ddf868c5

04:50:55 mod6: SHA256 (rel2.vpatch) = b951c4a56a362e8f936b65531298a2dad9cb456e3b15118f26ca9f61e5b9a97f

04:55:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00072602 = 26.8627 BTC [+]

04:57:19 mod6: Don't feel like it's a waste of time either to create your own method to generate these vpatches and see if we come out with the same resultant hash.

05:00:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00072602 = 5.191 BTC [+]

05:04:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33850 @ 0.00072678 = 24.6015 BTC [+] {3}

05:05:25 cazalla: http://www.inquisitr.com/2359051/ashley-madison-suicide-man-on-hacked-list-kills-himself-as-users-try-to-remove-their-names-from-ashley-madison-leaked-list/

05:05:26 assbot: Ashley Madison Suicide: Man On Hacked List Kills Himself As Users Try To Remove Their Names From Ashley Madison Leaked List ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWvMC )

05:05:47 pete_dushenski: 'as users try to remove their names' ??

05:05:54 pete_dushenski: what is this, the right to be forgotten ?

05:05:56 cazalla: police officer no less!

05:06:06 trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once!

05:06:09 pete_dushenski: justice has been served

05:07:39 pete_dushenski: trinque: sorta what political correctness is, in a nutshell, y'know

05:08:12 pete_dushenski: 'indians should've never sucked so badly that they literally shat their skirts when they first saw a gun'

05:08:21 pete_dushenski: 'so let's not bring that up'

05:08:48 mats: i dunno that guns were such an advantage against the white man.

05:08:54 mats: err, for the white man*

05:09:01 trinque: where'd the indians go then?

05:09:09 mats: state of the art -- muskets.

05:09:18 mats: smallpox, for one

05:09:19 trinque: actually, we do have to credit disease

05:09:21 trinque: yep

05:09:38 pete_dushenski: guns are nukes now, they do actually work in the battlefield

05:10:09 pete_dushenski: sure, disease was a thing, partly incidental, possibly intentional

05:10:18 pete_dushenski: aren't*

05:10:57 trinque: in either case, thinking one can persuade reality otherwise is a mental illness

05:11:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00072735 = 15.1289 BTC [+]

05:13:06 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248414 << solid d-fence

05:13:06 assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:05:26; asciilifeform: in unrelated nyooz, tr0l0l0l, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1482&cpage=1#comment-17278

05:13:34 pete_dushenski: if only taleb could handle such turds, he'd be here

05:13:45 pete_dushenski: alas, too aged is he

05:17:17 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248535 << guernicas too.

05:17:17 assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:50:57; mircea_popescu: what part of doublethink you think got cancelled ? the man with two maja desnudas simply is twice as happy.

05:17:30 pete_dushenski: "oh hey look what i found in this shoebox!"

05:19:42 pete_dushenski: but speaking of goya, after the local art gallery was revamped a few years back, it finally snagged itself a goya exhibit, which was my first and only exposure to the spaniard's etchings

05:20:11 pete_dushenski: the man had an affinity for the gallows, to be sure, not unlike stan's really

05:20:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00070339 = 13.9271 BTC [-] {3}

05:22:17 ben_vulpes: https://blog.conformal.com/why-your-team-sucks/

05:22:18 assbot: Why Your Team Sucks | Conformal Systems, LLC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Joq8aZ )

05:22:33 pete_dushenski: answer: 'you' ?

05:22:53 ben_vulpes: disease wasn't intentional at all, some vast majority was wiped out by unrecorded initial explorers of the americas

05:22:56 ben_vulpes: see 1941

05:22:57 ben_vulpes: er

05:23:00 ben_vulpes: 1491

05:23:24 ben_vulpes: even more lulzy, pete_dushenski

05:23:42 ben_vulpes: basically, conformal's public thinger got hacked.

05:23:44 ben_vulpes: righteously.

05:23:44 pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: ya, just scanned, reads exactly, and i do mean ~exactly~ like wp spam

05:25:51 pete_dushenski: https://blog.conformal.com/why-your-team-sucks/#comment-715

05:25:53 assbot: Why Your Team Sucks | Conformal Systems, LLC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrYsbY )

05:26:09 pete_dushenski: 'awaiting moderation'

05:26:22 pete_dushenski: jic : "I wasn’t always a fan of your blog but you guys are really picking up your game ! Way to go !!"

05:26:25 ben_vulpes: dem cookies

05:29:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00072735 = 9.6374 BTC [+]

05:29:52 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: regarding el gran teatro, have you been to a proper milonga yet?

05:30:06 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248583 << my ol' romanian grandfather taught me this one... "non est disputandum" !

05:30:06 assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 19:03:59; mircea_popescu: "de gustibus" ?

05:30:58 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes sure.

05:31:16 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248594 << there's always modigliani if you're in need of a cure for 'pieface'

05:31:16 assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 19:09:30; mircea_popescu: anyway, upon consideration venus does have to some degree the sharp features of the ideal fox. at least moreso than all the piefaces everyone wants to paint for some reason

05:31:51 mircea_popescu: <trinque> I demand for this to never have happened at once! << somehow reminds me of lweiss carroll

05:31:58 pete_dushenski: 'almond eyes' being amadeo's solution

05:32:24 pete_dushenski: 'i'm late, i'm late, i'm late for an important date!'

05:32:44 pete_dushenski: more 'red queen' i suppose

05:33:06 pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/22/a-beautiful-mind/

05:33:07 assbot: A Beautiful Mind | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrZ1Te )

05:34:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i like the guy's thinking. "it's hard and i suck therefore whatevs."

05:34:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23809 @ 0.00072754 = 17.322 BTC [+] {3}

05:34:32 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski goya is the definitive alf artist imo.

05:34:51 pete_dushenski: too true.

05:35:04 pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/12/on-walmart/#footnote_2_4406 << 'queen of hearts' not 'red queen'

05:35:05 assbot: On Walmart. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrZdls )

05:35:31 mircea_popescu: ahahaa conformal blog got hijacked ?

05:36:48 mircea_popescu: ahahahah lol modigliani. "o you don't like pieface ? try longface!"

05:36:54 mircea_popescu: fucking nuclear winter.

05:37:25 pete_dushenski: choices !

05:37:44 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248602 << my parents have a rather convincing 'kandinsky' at their place

05:37:44 assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 19:13:28; mircea_popescu: ely almost entirely on expert opinion concerning the quality of the art, that is to say, is the quality of the art being examined of the quality expected of a painting by the artist?in this case, Caravaggio.

05:38:02 pete_dushenski: apparently 'not real' but who the fuck knows

05:38:18 pete_dushenski: maybe time for 2nd, 3rd opinion

05:43:04 pete_dushenski: then again, they're not rothschilds so prolly doesn't much matter

05:44:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42099 @ 0.0007131 = 30.0208 BTC [-] {3}

05:49:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26676 @ 0.00072989 = 19.4705 BTC [+]

06:05:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22351 @ 0.00073026 = 16.322 BTC [+] {3}

06:09:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00073122 = 14.8072 BTC [+] {2}

06:18:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28896 @ 0.00070249 = 20.2992 BTC [-]

06:32:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00072595 = 9.2922 BTC [+]

06:49:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31693 @ 0.00072246 = 22.8969 BTC [-]

06:56:36 mircea_popescu: "Among intelligent Communists there is an underground legend to the effect that although the Russian government is obliged now to deal in lying propaganda, frame-up trials, and so forth, it is secretly recording the true facts and will publish them at some future time." << meta non-asshole stalinism!

07:00:53 punkman: lol

07:01:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00072773 = 10.6612 BTC [+] {3}

07:08:00 mats: https://i.imgur.com/ktkwt5r.jpg

07:08:01 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENk5f7 )

07:09:03 mats: wapo decided to publish pics of master keys to approved tsa luggage locks

07:09:09 mats: win

07:09:46 mats: nao to acquire bump set

07:10:39 trinque: this "TSA-approved lock" is a thing?

07:11:28 trinque: ah I guess the alternative is having them cut your lock off, lol

07:12:07 mats: yes

07:31:14 mircea_popescu: mechanical locks ?!

07:31:28 mircea_popescu: this is like windows antivirus already.

07:46:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00072246 = 26.0086 BTC [-]

07:50:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00072759 = 3.1286 BTC [+]

07:59:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36450 @ 0.00072114 = 26.2856 BTC [-] {3}

08:05:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13144 @ 0.00072762 = 9.5638 BTC [+] {3}

08:06:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56515 @ 0.00073394 = 41.4786 BTC [+] {4}

08:18:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00073458 = 4.9951 BTC [+]

08:46:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35823 @ 0.00073485 = 26.3245 BTC [+] {3}

08:53:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36022 @ 0.00073224 = 26.3767 BTC [-] {4}

08:54:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1528 @ 0.0007101 = 1.085 BTC [-]

09:17:58 mircea_popescu: !rated wences

09:17:58 assbot: wences is not registered in WoT.

09:18:02 mircea_popescu: mkay.

09:25:20 cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245663 <<< any value in the opposite.. say +1 if such and such individual shows up?

09:25:20 assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 19:53:20; trinque: felipelalli: 'twas above that one, BingoBoingo made a deed in which he promised to rate certain individuals -10 should they ever appear in the WoT

09:25:33 mircea_popescu: but same.

09:41:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64500 @ 0.00071907 = 46.38 BTC [+] {4}

09:51:15 punkman: https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys

09:51:17 assbot: Nihilist Arby's (@nihilist_arbys) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdpfFb )

09:53:13 punkman: "10am:Traffic is terrible. You're running out of gin. The girl in the trunk won't stop screaming. She'll be dead soon. So will you. Eat arbys"

09:57:34 punkman: "Draw the blinds. shut out the sun. Cry. The pile of meat has been on the table for weeks. Just eat it & go back to bed. Arbys: edible."

09:59:05 punkman: "Why not wash down that regrettable semen-of-the-coke-dealer taste in your mouth with a little Arbys? Arbys: no one here cares what you do."

09:59:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00073127 = 7.8977 BTC [+]

09:59:39 punkman: "Here's a little late night inspiration: you're ugly, your one night stand will notice your fat rolls and you'll die alone. Arbys: remorse"

10:00:18 punkman: "The only way out of this nightmare is the sweet release of death, so fuck it. have another sandwich, fatty. Arbys: to your nadir and beyond"

10:17:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12826 @ 0.00073127 = 9.3793 BTC [+]

10:38:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00072434 = 17.6015 BTC [-]

11:00:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6850 @ 0.00073127 = 5.0092 BTC [+]

11:11:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00073319 = 22.8389 BTC [+] {4}

11:23:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00073544 = 14.9294 BTC [+] {3}

11:33:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27800 @ 0.00073621 = 20.4666 BTC [+] {2}

11:41:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00073429 = 8.224 BTC [-]

11:48:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20550 @ 0.00073429 = 15.0897 BTC [-]

12:03:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00073429 = 19.9727 BTC [-]

12:08:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15129 @ 0.00073429 = 11.1091 BTC [-]

12:20:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37400 @ 0.00072892 = 27.2616 BTC [-] {4}

12:24:07 mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

12:24:10 gribble: Time since last block: 37 minutes and 38 seconds

12:24:13 mircea_popescu: herp.

12:27:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7225 @ 0.00073669 = 5.3226 BTC [+] {2}

12:28:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9525 @ 0.0007385 = 7.0342 BTC [+]

12:32:56 mircea_popescu: !up hazirafel100

12:33:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19628 @ 0.0007385 = 14.4953 BTC [+]

12:34:10 mircea_popescu: here's some more stuff that "never happened" : https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/

12:34:11 assbot: BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 100.09 B (100%) on Yes, 0.01 B (0%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 99`986 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JoYZVq )

12:34:34 mircea_popescu: if anyone wants to donate some btc...

12:35:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15722 @ 0.00073901 = 11.6187 BTC [+] {2}

12:44:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00072434 = 26.6557 BTC [-]

12:51:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4640 @ 0.00072434 = 3.3609 BTC [-]

13:02:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.0007243 = 22.3809 BTC [-] {3}

13:08:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12935 @ 0.00073907 = 9.5599 BTC [+]

13:13:20 mircea_popescu: !up smoots

13:13:39 smoots: hello, Phuctor is returning a 500 Internal Server Error when submitting a new key

13:14:12 mircea_popescu: usually happens when it eats up all the memory doing long number manipulation. give it a few hours and try again

13:14:24 smoots: okay, thank you!

13:26:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28743 @ 0.00072379 = 20.8039 BTC [-] {3}

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14:50:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00072784 = 24.1643 BTC [-]

14:58:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43181 @ 0.00072558 = 31.3313 BTC [-] {4}

15:08:04 wyrdmantis: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-08-2015#1244364 asciilifeform can you explain me why this is relevant? i person i know has told me that L2 chache is irrelevant because "the working set of memory pages veryfing ECDSA signatures is extremely small and takes places also in L1” I don’t have counter-arguments with him because this is not my field but… i trust your opinion more. Also he says that the use of ssd make

15:08:04 assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 21:14:31; ascii_field: cpu l2 cache

15:08:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8112 @ 0.00072364 = 5.8702 BTC [-]

15:15:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33391 @ 0.00073007 = 24.3778 BTC [+]

15:18:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00073007 = 7.6657 BTC [+]

15:20:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49675 @ 0.00072325 = 35.9274 BTC [-] {3}

15:41:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00072033 = 17.7201 BTC [-] {2}

15:49:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00072054 = 10.1956 BTC [+]

16:06:54 thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3i2yvf/xtnodescom_request_for_ddos_protected_hosting/ << lol

16:19:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00072054 = 6.2687 BTC [+]

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16:39:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26681 @ 0.00071753 = 19.1444 BTC [-] {3}

17:11:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5129 @ 0.00071742 = 3.6796 BTC [-]

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17:19:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4645 @ 0.00071924 = 3.3409 BTC [+] {3}

17:32:45 mod6: my rotor+TEST2 has fully sync'd on gentoo. (3rd full sync with -verifyall)

17:36:27 thestringpuller: congrats mod6

17:41:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00072176 = 10.1768 BTC [+]

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17:59:13 mod6: ty

18:03:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5320 @ 0.00073007 = 3.884 BTC [+]

18:17:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00072745 = 26.4792 BTC [-]

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19:02:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 500 @ 0.00208192 = 1.041 BTC [-]

19:23:58 mats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoSF4ZoDuRI

19:23:59 assbot: Reversed Engineered Yamaha OPL3 FM Synthesizer in an FPGA playing Doom - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDEwSS )

19:25:49 mats: https://github.com/gtaylormb/opl3_fpga

19:25:50 assbot: gtaylormb/opl3_fpga · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1NDEIS9 )

19:26:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.1180997 = 3.543 BTC [-]

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19:35:15 danielpbarron: !up refferedbyloper

19:43:26 danielpbarron: !rated bagels7

19:43:26 assbot: You rated user bagels7 on 11-Nov-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: he's got a decent attitude; just a little confused..

19:43:29 danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.bagels7.2:38b49956fb99a7f6474c2916462ecb357a66dca60c363fb3a8e7686a90f8d5b8

19:43:30 assbot: Successfully updated the rating for bagels7 from 3 to 2 with note: met on tinychat; might be useful some day

19:45:07 danielpbarron: !rated jurov

19:45:07 assbot: You rated user jurov on 04-May-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: He's good for holding 10-100 bitcoin..

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19:45:10 assbot: Successfully updated the rating for jurov from 3 to 4 with note: coinbr to eulora exchanger

19:46:20 danielpbarron: !rated alevin

19:46:20 assbot: You rated user alevin on 21-Nov-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: boring mental case that fetishizes abstinence.

19:46:26 danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.unrate.alevin:238b74cd0e0fb7b383ce485d0c41505f934d63ffe3179dcb344c8f1ef683df9b

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19:48:01 danielpbarron: !rated birdman

19:48:01 assbot: You rated user birdman on 24-Nov-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: He's stubborn, but still young..

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19:48:04 assbot: Successfully updated the rating for birdman from 2 to 3 with note: met in person; known for years; fellow Eulorian

19:49:42 danielpbarron: !rated gunplay

19:49:42 assbot: You rated user gunplay on 02-Jul-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest; sold me a paper wallet.

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19:51:39 danielpbarron: !rated btc_trader

19:51:39 assbot: You rated user btc_trader on 30-Jun-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/483646332708483072 ; traded BTC for my cash face-to-face..

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19:51:51 assbot: Successfully unrated btc_trader

19:54:47 danielpbarron: !rated kyuupichan

19:54:47 assbot: You rated user kyuupichan on 23-Jun-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: met at porcfest https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384.

19:54:49 danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.kyuupichan.-1:2f91fd10e38ffd898d435ca984311c39b9c5201bf958714dc3d2024b5a8bd861

19:54:49 assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kyuupichan from 2 to -1 with note: met at porcfest; been idling for a while with nothing to contribute

19:57:22 danielpbarron: !rated kuzetsa

19:57:22 assbot: You rated user kuzetsa on 20-Aug-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: A girl in #bitcoin-assets!.

19:57:26 danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.unrate.kuzetsa:3263af76580054ced0882f4db9f2eeee56d30ee0b174207d81690c79ef368d73

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19:59:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37149 @ 0.00073655 = 27.3621 BTC [+] {4}

20:07:59 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell wyrdmantis ssd is irrelevant in the discussion. "memory pages" is also irrelevant i nthe discussion. apparently it's not that person's field either.

20:07:59 gribble: The operation succeeded.

20:14:18 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron http://i.imgur.com/TlfulMF.jpg << apparently #b-a is ALL women.

20:14:19 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5wJWT )

20:18:59 mats: lol wtf

20:19:15 mats: 'Battle for blocksize'

20:19:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00073906 = 8.9426 BTC [+]

20:20:02 mircea_popescu: i dunno.

20:22:59 danielpbarron: take it the guy with the weird glasses is gavin, and the girl with the breastplate is supposed to be hanbot?

20:23:23 davout: danielpbarron: guy with glasses looks like jean reno

20:23:50 danielpbarron: i don't know who that is, but it looks like gavin's twitter pic

20:23:56 davout: that too

20:24:06 danielpbarron: some steampunk thing

20:24:14 danielpbarron: who is the lion? MP?

20:25:53 mircea_popescu: but hanbot's not cali-blonde

20:26:55 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, https://archive.is/1oGss

20:26:58 assbot: newest submissions : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5y1kE )

20:30:06 hanbot: <danielpbarron> take it the guy with the weird glasses is gavin, and the girl with the breastplate is supposed to be hanbot? << moar like scoopbot, by the looks of those hands.

20:30:28 mircea_popescu: hands r hard mmkay ?

20:36:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.0007265 = 30.731 BTC [-] {5}

20:45:46 ag3nt_zer0: Hi all, blessed Sunday! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt856_nRxQk

20:45:47 assbot: Tomahawk - God Hates a Coward - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHmE8X )

20:47:35 mod6: the fox in the red says "here's where we're going to tie you to a chair and dunk you in the river."

20:47:55 mats: furries...

20:49:12 mod6: the chick with 3 fingers thinks its a good idea. and gavin says "hey, you can't do that!" to the lion. the lion says, "we WILL do that."

20:50:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27729 @ 0.00071746 = 19.8944 BTC [-] {5}

20:50:54 mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/ holy shit check that out

20:50:54 assbot: BitBet - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 18th September :: 1.44 B (18%) on Yes, 6.4 B (82%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 1 day| weight: 63`773 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5ArQc )

20:51:42 mod6: still a ways to go there... or maybe a bet on QE4

20:52:11 mod6: closed @ 16`459 on friday.

20:52:24 mircea_popescu: nuts that a 30% drop is priced at 18% .

20:54:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43050 @ 0.00073426 = 31.6099 BTC [+] {3}

21:01:09 mircea_popescu: !up refferedbyloper_

21:02:27 mats: gpg requires a private key to do signature verification

21:02:45 mats: this doesn't seem to make any sense from a pure crypto standpoint

21:02:53 mats: fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

21:03:21 mircea_popescu: does not.

21:03:24 mircea_popescu: it requirues the pubkey.

21:03:46 mats: all the libraries i've read require a private subkey

21:04:01 mircea_popescu: wut ?!

21:04:23 davout: mats: prolly because it relies on you having a keyring to which it associates trust levels for private keys

21:04:32 mircea_popescu: oh oh oh ."a".

21:04:45 mircea_popescu: they're "nobody would ever want" level implementation.

21:05:05 mircea_popescu: they assume it's ok to "require networking" because it makes X thing easier and "who would ever want to run without networking"

21:07:53 mats: welp, time to smash a keyboard out back

21:08:12 mats: so much for demeter's law

21:09:20 mircea_popescu: "public education" and "we should encourage more people to get into high paying tech jobs".

21:11:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13978 @ 0.00073559 = 10.2821 BTC [+]

21:14:46 davout: mats: just tried it

21:15:09 davout: with a keyring, but no private key at all, gpg reports signature correctness and short ID

21:15:31 davout: also required me to import the relevant public key into the key ring

21:19:39 mircea_popescu: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/909/051/6d2.jpg

21:19:40 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5DtEj )

21:19:55 mats: i haven't seen any python libraries that enable this behavior without shelling out to the binary (or maybe i'm retarded, i dunno)

21:20:31 mats: i am very hesitant to code sig verification in a standalone context but this seems to be the best play here...

21:21:31 mircea_popescu: gotta start somewhere.

21:21:50 *: mats rummages around for his copy of crypto engineering

21:25:23 mircea_popescu: "Some time back altcoins were thought to be potential challengers to BTC. But as time went on we realised that BTC was never going to be removed from the throne.

21:25:23 mircea_popescu: I see the current block size debate in similar fashion. It seems almost inevitable that we will get bigger blocks (probably with XT) because the alternatives will not work well enough, soon enough."

21:25:39 mircea_popescu: historically, X never happened. I believe X will happen now, because I think so.

21:32:28 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249671 << there are none.

21:32:28 assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 21:19:55; mats: i haven't seen any python libraries that enable this behavior without shelling out to the binary (or maybe i'm retarded, i dunno)

21:32:45 asciilifeform: mats: to the point, there are ~NO~ usable reimplementations of gpg presently.

21:32:54 asciilifeform: not one.

21:33:12 asciilifeform: (the one pushed by the netbsd folks, notably, calls out to... openssl!!111!!!)

21:33:25 mircea_popescu: pretty amusing how on some basic demographics, all the various groups doing various "better bitcoins" come out drastically in support of bitcoin-xt. it'd seem the people who agree bitcoin needs "improvement" is 80% the people who already agreed with this, unsuccessfully.

21:34:05 mircea_popescu: nxt-ers and ripplers and what have you.

21:34:07 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: their logic, to the extent there is any, is approximately 'nothing grows till the oak hits the ground'

21:34:22 asciilifeform: 'if bitcoin dies, our shitcoinz could have a chance!'

21:34:37 mircea_popescu: if anyone's bored, here's a simple job : take all reddit accounts > 1 year old that are in favour of xt, count the ones who weren't also active in some other historically failed fork attempt.

21:34:52 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mebbe.

21:35:23 mircea_popescu: certainly the two major groups that stand to win from harming bitcoin are govt shills and the idiots they cater to.

21:36:25 *: asciilifeform bbl

21:37:06 fluffypony: mircea_popescu you want to hear a funny story

21:37:09 mircea_popescu: sure.

21:37:34 fluffypony: I've been fairly vocal in denouncing -XT and the whole way Hearn-ia and Gavin have been pushing their agenda

21:37:42 mircea_popescu: aha.

21:37:59 fluffypony: so the Redditards have taken to telling me that I don't support XT because it's in my interest for Bitcoin to fail

21:38:05 fluffypony: damned if you do, damned if you don't

21:38:06 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which reminds me, apparently monero does just fine with the oak. somehow.

21:38:18 mircea_popescu: fluffypony heh.

21:38:31 mircea_popescu: yes, but there's a difference between statistics and redditart say-so.

21:38:36 mircea_popescu: do teh count, see.

21:38:46 fluffypony: yep

21:38:54 mircea_popescu: redditart lol.

21:39:02 mircea_popescu: sadly, no womenz to be had, but anyway.

21:41:36 mats: 17:32:27 <+asciilifeform> ... << there are none. << i appreciate the confirmation

21:42:47 mircea_popescu: point was agreed to before i think. which is how the discussion re what pgp implementation must be like got started.

21:49:08 mircea_popescu: incidentally : the only thing this faux controversy has actually shown, is that the antiquated model of governance inherited by the power rangers from satoshi plainly does not work.

21:49:35 mircea_popescu: #bitcoin-assets weathered it fine. the bitcoin foundation mailing list weathered it fine. the old mailing list is practically dead for any useful purpose.

21:50:31 mircea_popescu: theymos tried to salvage reddit through doing what he wouldn't do to save bitcointalk three years ago ; this failed to work, reddit-bitcoin shattered.

21:50:44 mats: asciilifeform: it seems 'asignify' does not link openssl

21:50:46 mircea_popescu: leaving probably r/buttcoin as the schellign point, which honestly...

21:51:10 mircea_popescu: best thing ever. let them have the retard mass that success brings in. socialism deserves its fruits

21:51:59 mats: hafta read all of it, brb...

22:09:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0007378 = 1.9183 BTC [+]

22:12:11 mats: asciilifeform: 'signify' does not appear to link openssl either... am i missing something or wut?

22:13:56 mircea_popescu: !up refferedbyloper

22:18:06 mircea_popescu: if that dow opens under 15k tomorro...

22:24:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.0007378 = 6.3451 BTC [+]

22:25:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10452 @ 0.0007378 = 7.7115 BTC [+]

22:27:58 mircea_popescu: bitbet got linked on reddit, so now https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#c4992

22:27:59 assbot: BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 100.09 B (99%) on Yes, 1.01 B (1%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 99`855 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1hUaTkm )

22:28:25 mircea_popescu: really, reddit as a concentration camp for shitheads is not nearly going far enough.

22:28:48 mircea_popescu: there must be active extermination, not just, "get them fat and shut in".

22:34:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00073906 = 12.1575 BTC [+] {3}

22:37:44 funkenstein_: i loled at "rebbit" in logs (amphibitards? psheepers?)

22:39:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23923 @ 0.00073907 = 17.6808 BTC [+]

22:49:55 *: funkenstein_ trying to catch up: genesis vpatches tested match (apart a few deletions) 0.4.3 release

22:58:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00073278 = 24.9878 BTC [-] {4}

23:04:50 funkenstein_: !up Vexual

23:04:51 mats: asciilifeform: https://github.com/aperezdc/signify << am reading this

23:04:52 assbot: aperezdc/signify · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PtSnto )

23:10:04 Vexual: hi funkenstein_

23:12:07 mod6: funkenstein_: 0.4.3?

23:12:22 funkenstein_: er 5.3 sorry

23:12:34 mod6: ah

23:14:45 funkenstein_: No manual entry for vdiff

23:14:45 funkenstein_: Hi Vexual. I saw a massive black bear today chillin' on side of the road

23:15:16 Vexual: hey cool

23:35:31 mircea_popescu: !up ghtdak

23:39:53 BingoBoingo: Typical redditor https://archive.is/vikBy

23:39:54 assbot: TIFU by checking my body for ticks [NSFW] : tifu ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAlgrI )

23:41:09 mats: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/29860467/2-men-arrested-with-several-guns-near-pokemon-world-championship

23:41:10 assbot: Boston Police arrest 2 men Shotgun, AR15 at Pokemon Championship - Boston News, Weather, Sports | FOX 25 | MyFoxBoston ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAlkYz )

23:41:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16247 @ 0.00073461 = 11.9352 BTC [+] {4}

23:49:06 mats: asciilifeform: just realized it does not use rsa. derp.

23:53:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00072708 = 26.3203 BTC [-] {3}

23:56:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00073906 = 19.5481 BTC [+] {2}