Transcript for 23-09-2013, 1377 lines:
04:47:32 mircea_popescu: sooo. has knc delivered yet ?
06:56:52 bobbabad: what will happen when trading resumes on btct
07:10:45 ozbot: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc.
07:12:20 bobbabad: I guess there ended up being blood after all....
07:21:04 gangplank: so what happens to my stocks
07:31:42 Ukyo: well
07:31:45 Ukyo: that was a surprise
07:31:48 Ukyo: not really.
07:32:10 bobbabad: Ukyo, is bitfunder in good shape, any crazyiness going on there?
07:32:17 Ukyo: lots of crazyness
07:32:22 Ukyo: how are there trades?
07:32:42 gangplank: locked, book wiped, trades reenabled
07:32:56 Ukyo: why trade reenabled?
07:33:00 Ukyo: it says all trade halted on the announce?
07:33:00 Ukyo: x.x
07:33:01 gangplank: nfi
07:33:04 bobbabad: two weeks until shut down
07:33:10 gangplank: yes but then reenabled after announce
07:33:29 Ukyo: "Effective immediately, in conjunction with this release, trading will be halted, all order books cleared, and trading re-enabled."
07:33:29 gangplank: "Effective immediately, in conjunction with this release, trading will be halted, all order books cleared, and trading re-enabled."
07:33:30 Ukyo: why
07:33:39 Ukyo: makes _no_ sense to clear the books
07:33:41 gangplank: who knows
07:33:53 gangplank: add to the confusion
07:34:09 bobbabad: makes perfect sense, burnside clearly got layer fees to pay
07:34:17 mircea_popescu: so did they have a breach or what.
07:34:27 Ukyo: mircea_popescu: nah
07:34:32 bobbabad: *lawyer
07:34:36 Ukyo: if so it would have shut down completely
07:34:56 Ukyo: this is something that was obviously planned
07:35:02 mircea_popescu: o hey. so i guess that bet is yes huh
07:35:09 Ukyo: i.e. 1. shutdown of user/asset reg, 2. request btc payout address
07:37:28 Ukyo: the two week notice is somewhat odd dont you think?
07:37:37 dexX7: why?
07:39:05 Ukyo: just unexpected :)
07:39:30 mircea_popescu: i usually tend to like giving a month, but two weeks is certainly not brusque or sudden.
07:39:33 dexX7: so i guess you need some additional servers for the load, ukyo ;)
07:42:07 Ukyo: dexX7: well see.
07:42:16 Ukyo: mircea_popescu: depending on the circumstances
07:42:25 Ukyo: we saw what happened on glbse :P
07:42:40 Ukyo: nef. made heh "quick work"
07:42:41 Ukyo: :P
07:42:54 Ukyo: still dont understand of resetting the books
07:43:02 Ukyo: thats a good way to hurt the price of an asset
07:43:30 dexX7: yup
07:43:46 bobbabad: I guess he thought that it would be better then making the announcement and have people panic dump
07:43:49 Ukyo: then agian, its not the first time recently LC has been interfeared with :P
07:43:59 Ukyo: bobbabad: true
07:44:19 bobbabad: people are panic dumping though so strategy did not work :P
07:44:28 Ukyo: ppl are dumping on bf tho
07:44:29 Ukyo: which is amusing
07:44:35 bobbabad: lol
07:44:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, let's hope people generally are learning lessons and intend to listen better.
07:45:04 bobbabad: I would imagine the opposite should be happening
07:45:10 Ukyo: bobbabad: meh.
07:45:13 Rannasha: I guess the reason to clear the books was for the people who had open bids. I reckon you wouldn't want to be stuck getting dumped on when the panic sale starts.
07:45:17 Ukyo: i coudl care less which way things move, as long as they keep moving
07:45:17 Ukyo: :P
07:45:24 dexX7: good point rannasha
07:45:26 Ukyo: if movements stop, its bad news in too amny ways
07:45:44 Ukyo: Rannasha: i dunno, i wouldnt mind have a low bid filled
07:45:45 bobbabad: Ukyo, I guess maybe now would be a good time to up the trade fee ;)
07:45:53 Ukyo: bobbabad: roflol
07:45:56 bobbabad: mircea_popescu the all mighty captain hindsight
07:45:59 Ukyo: no :
07:46:00 Ukyo: :P
07:46:16 Rannasha: Ukyo: But what if you had a bid just below the current price for an asset that doesn't seem to have an easy way out when the exchange closes.
07:46:18 Ukyo: wonder how much of the trash will end up on HL
07:46:23 Ukyo: I am very picky about assets atm
07:46:23 dexX7: what's your experience with such incidends? will this drive all prices down, e.g. am?
07:46:33 mircea_popescu: bobbabad not a matter of hindsight in any sense. you're just new and clueless.
07:46:44 Ukyo: Rannasha: then you had faith in the asset enough to pay the price
07:46:50 Ukyo: and leave it
07:46:53 Ukyo: beit a dump or not
07:47:03 Ukyo: you cant cater to day traders.
07:47:29 bobbabad: Ukyo, will labcoin be welcome to bf consider all the bs that has been going on with the issuer?
07:47:53 Ukyo: They originally applied at BF
07:48:01 bobbabad: oh?
07:48:19 Ukyo: apparently there is alot of scrutiny when applying at BF, and things dont move 'fast enough' :P
07:48:47 Ukyo: btct has good volume and trade fee income
07:48:48 bobbabad: uh.. really? i thought it was the opposite, everyones welcome
07:48:59 Ukyo: i doubt burnsy was wanting to shut down
07:49:05 Ukyo: bobbabad: pfft no
07:49:11 Ukyo: I got 4 new asset requests alone today
07:49:23 Ukyo: i avg 1~3 tickets a day asking about starting an asset
07:49:33 bobbabad: gotcha...
07:49:45 gangplank: will it be easy to xfer assets over to bitfunder?
07:49:46 Ukyo: one today "I want to raise funds to buy mining equipment" .. .. "no."
07:50:02 Rannasha: Do you also have a listing fee on BF? I reckon a listing fee keeps a large part of the hopeless ones away.
07:50:07 bobbabad: thats good
07:50:08 Ukyo: "I am looking for a loan." '.. .. who are you?'
07:50:36 Ukyo: "I own a gold mine and need equipment" '.. .. in which game?'
07:51:04 Ukyo: Rannasha 5btc, same as btct.
07:51:11 Ukyo: btct raised from 2 or 3 btc to match mine actually
07:51:29 bobbabad: I guess, to be fair it might be more credibility to bitfunder that way then a bunch of random LTC-global voting with what makes sense for their personal fincacial benefit
07:52:31 Ukyo: i thikn a trade freeze site-wide wold have been better than .. this.
07:52:43 Ukyo: if nef at least let ppl login and let ppl transfer shit
07:52:46 Ukyo: he woulda been fine
07:54:27 Ukyo: this is kinda silly... he started prepping for shutdown weeks ago.. but still encouraged ppl to download the 'new iphone app' x.x
07:55:59 Ukyo: what is [FN] ??
07:56:05 dexX7: fund
07:56:26 Ukyo: guess once btct is gone
07:56:34 Ukyo: it will only be havelock and mpex announcing trades in here...
07:57:14 Ukyo: but hey.. one less exchange means the btc price to get on assbot goes down
07:57:15 Ukyo: :P
07:57:48 mircea_popescu: lol
07:57:52 mircea_popescu: i guess tha'ts true.
07:58:20 Ukyo: sorry. tired. just poped to mind :P
07:59:07 VanCleef: so btct is closing down?
07:59:11 Ukyo: yes
07:59:15 Ukyo: thats what it says
07:59:58 VanCleef: fuck okey
08:00:44 AndrewJackson: Party at Bitfunder tonight?
08:00:54 VanCleef: i think so
08:01:02 Ukyo: nah
08:01:08 Ukyo: actualy quite sad
08:01:14 Ukyo: if btct goes away
08:01:18 sdfsdfs: bitfunder will be the next
08:01:20 Ukyo: it means a huge loss of income for bf
08:01:24 VanCleef: alot of volume will go to bf
08:01:28 Ukyo: due to lack of arb trading
08:01:31 sdfsdfs: there is no way to operate an exchange like this legaly
08:01:37 Ukyo: VanCleef: the assets will have to be approved
08:01:49 Ukyo: i thikn half the assets on btct wont meet criteria
08:01:53 Ukyo: which is why they ended up there
08:02:04 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: sure there is.
08:02:10 AndrewJackson: Lucky Bitfunder has been doing the hard yards ;)
08:02:24 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: I am working on licensing.
08:02:29 sdfsdfs: lol
08:02:42 Ukyo: i have been invited to meet with some ministers mid/end october
08:02:45 sdfsdfs: then you have to get rid of 90% of the assets
08:02:51 Ukyo: had to put them off because I could not meet before my tripe at begining of oct
08:03:03 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: nah, i found a lot of liency where btc is involved
08:03:17 Ukyo: most assets already meet the needed requirements
08:03:30 sdfsdfs: too bad burnsides expensive laywers didn't find that
08:03:33 Ukyo: those who dont will be forced into meeting said requirements, or get delisted.
08:04:05 Ukyo: I have said, i have noe spent more than 4x (easily) profits worth of income from BF on lawyers
08:04:06 Ukyo: for legalization
08:04:33 Ukyo: I wonder what he will do with this PT shares.
08:04:37 Ukyo: for AM
08:04:48 sdfsdfs: keep them
08:04:51 Ukyo: I see FC getting many many many transfer requests :P
08:04:58 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: lets hope not.
08:05:06 sdfsdfs: he is an asshole
08:05:14 San1ty__: WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
08:05:16 Ukyo: which ?
08:05:28 San1ty__: BTC-T shutting down?
08:05:31 Ukyo: yes.
08:05:33 San1ty__: are you fucking kidding me?
08:05:42 Ukyo: mircea_popescu: remeber what i said before? symptoms akin to nefario?
08:05:46 Ukyo: San1ty__: no
08:05:48 San1ty__: It's too late to get out of any of the assets I have...
08:05:54 San1ty__: Everything is almost down 50%
08:05:54 VanCleef: sites down
08:05:57 San1ty__: trololol
08:06:01 VanCleef: OH FUCK ITS OVER
08:06:07 San1ty__: where is ThickerThanThiev
08:06:12 Ukyo: VanCleef: works for me
08:06:14 Ukyo: San1ty__: sleeping
08:06:42 San1ty__: Well we got royally fucked... what are you guys doing with any assets at BTC-T?
08:07:01 gangplank: i just sold for a small loss, rather coins in hand than wait it out
08:07:53 San1ty__: Meh my loss is pretty big
08:09:06 Ukyo: only thing i hold on there is am which can be transfered. labcoin which will be ??? and liek 6 pajka bond thingies i somehow ended up with
08:10:02 VanCleef: so whens labcoin going on bitfunder?
08:10:25 Ukyo: well see
08:10:31 Ukyo: with LC's communications
08:10:34 Ukyo: they prolly wont know for a week
08:10:35 Ukyo: :P
08:11:05 bobbabad: mircea_popescu will surely accept labcoin with open arms to mpex
08:11:11 Ukyo: ROFLOL
08:11:17 Ukyo: mircea_popescu:how bout it, you want labcoin ? :P
08:11:34 Ukyo: I will entertain the idea if they meet the requirements
08:11:45 Ukyo: like any other asset
08:11:51 Ukyo: although, i hear its not hard to list on HL :P
08:11:55 Ukyo: so i fugre most will end up there
08:12:06 dexX7: what's hl?
08:12:10 dexX7: oh nvm
08:12:21 Ukyo: have lock will use
08:12:22 Ukyo: :P
08:14:04 bobbabad: the most fucked ppl at btct are the ones who buy neo beo's ivpo
08:14:06 Ukyo: I am more curious about DMS / deprived.
08:14:14 Ukyo: I somehow doubt he will want to move to bf
08:14:20 Ukyo: and even more so havelock
08:14:34 Ukyo: possibly mpex ... though i recall him not sitting well with PR :P
08:14:44 sdfsdfs: what is wrong with neo? the shares can easily transfered to havelock/bf
08:15:15 Ukyo: first ticket listing request has arrived.
08:15:25 bobbabad: which one? :P
08:15:26 dexX7: which asset?
08:15:30 Ukyo: cant say
08:15:32 Ukyo: thats not proper.
08:15:36 bobbabad: true dat
08:15:36 dexX7: i agree
08:15:47 Ukyo: just found it amusing 1 minute ago i thought "any time now my phone will start blowing up with asset transfer requests"
08:15:54 Ukyo: and then it beeps
08:15:55 Ukyo: :P
08:16:39 Ukyo: speaking of which
08:16:49 Ukyo: which issue was it that had some major contract issue ?
08:16:52 Ukyo: isser/asset
08:16:55 Ukyo: mining asset
08:17:31 sdfsdfs: lab/peta/bmf
08:17:34 bobbabad: peta
08:17:36 Ukyo: ah peta
08:17:41 Ukyo: whats the deal with them?
08:20:49 Rannasha: they changed their contract during the IPO
08:21:19 sdfsdfs: there is a bid for 1000 ltc-global shares at 25. probably the buyback
08:21:32 San1ty__: Is labcoin currently operated anywhere else?
08:21:45 Rannasha: San1ty__: only a PT on Havelock
08:21:53 Rannasha: But that's backed by BTCT shares
08:21:58 Rannasha: So no
08:21:59 San1ty__: Haha :D
08:22:17 San1ty__: I have a feeling that'll end up as a disaster
08:23:04 San1ty__: did burnside say anything about his AM PT?
08:23:08 Ukyo: no
08:23:19 San1ty__: ugh
08:23:22 dexX7: so just to be clear.. trading will be enabled till 31th oct?
08:23:30 San1ty__: why drop a bomb like that and then just go offline.
08:24:14 San1ty__: might be a good time
08:24:18 San1ty__: to pick up cheap shares tho
08:25:26 Rannasha: dexX7: I think trading happens until 7th oct, after which you have until the end of the month to withdraw stuff, before the site goes black
08:26:06 dexX7: i was just wondering, because it's explicitly stated that "secondary market trading" will be halted on the 7th, which is option trading, right?
08:27:09 Rannasha: secondary market is anything not directly traded with the original issuer I believe
08:27:15 Rannasha: so all exchanges
08:27:23 Rannasha: not sure though
08:27:25 Ukyo: he cant halt other exchanges
08:27:27 Ukyo: has to be options trading
08:30:37 usagi: sdfsdfs: lab/peta/bmf <--- No, bmf has no contract issues whatsoever, please don't spread rumors.
08:32:21 sdfsdfs: Ukyo you need to buy more servers .)
08:32:27 Ukyo: usagi: without rumors.. what will they post on the forums? :(
08:32:38 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: I have major major hardware and network upgrade plans set for nov
08:32:46 Ukyo: once we have our license
08:33:47 Rannasha: Ukyo: How far along is your API? I was working on a desktop-client for BTCT using its API and now I have a half-finished project :(
08:34:17 Ukyo: Rannasha: we have apps.
08:34:18 Ukyo: :P
08:34:30 Ukyo: honestly
08:34:35 Ukyo: BF has a _lost_ ready to go
08:34:43 Ukyo: but waiting for license before doing anything more that is major
08:34:58 Rannasha: Alright
08:35:01 Rannasha: any eta? :)
08:35:20 Ukyo: I am expecting to meet with ministers mid/end Oct
08:35:24 Ukyo: and will hopefully have an answer
08:35:39 sdfsdfs: are you uk based?
08:35:48 Ukyo: personally? nah
08:35:50 Ukyo: I'm in texas
08:35:55 Ukyo: I hear pirate is like 1hr away from me :P
08:43:09 Ukyo: btct is dead for me
08:43:16 Ukyo: (site loading wise) anyone else?
08:43:19 dexX7: yup
08:43:24 dexX7: trading api down, too
08:43:25 usagi: it's up and down
08:43:37 usagi: order placement is choppy when it's up
08:43:45 Ukyo: its back
08:44:37 sdfsdfs: still down for me
08:46:41 sdfsdfs: usagi called it hours before the annoucement. I should have listened to him
08:47:45 dexX7: CIPHERMINE-PT shareholders please read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283947.msg3215405#msg3215405
08:47:52 Ukyo: he did?
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08:49:16 Ukyo: "BMF reminds it's investors that it is not liable for losses caused by the closure of an exchange... :/" roflol
08:49:23 Ukyo: nice usagi :P
08:51:01 dub: I think mp called it quite some time ago
08:51:46 Ukyo: I wonder if BF will have to shut down
08:51:47 sdfsdfs: well there is a bet on bitbet
08:51:52 sdfsdfs: still time to join
08:52:02 dexX7: shhht
08:52:04 Ukyo: it does say or before itshuts down right?
08:52:09 Ukyo: not at announcement time?
08:52:10 Ukyo: ;P
08:54:37 sdfsdfs: ukyo is bitfunder your fulltime job?
08:56:05 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: weexchange and bitfunder
08:56:19 sdfsdfs: nice
08:56:22 Ukyo: i am hoping to have a first money transmitter license for weex soon
08:56:31 Ukyo: and working to get a license for BF at the same time
08:56:36 sdfsdfs: where did you get the money
08:56:41 sdfsdfs: for all the legal work
08:56:47 Ukyo: mostly out of pocket
08:57:01 Ukyo: have spent close to 4x the the total profit of BF so far on lawyer fees
08:58:19 sdfsdfs: so you had a fulltime job before?
08:58:25 sdfsdfs: and quit because of bf?
08:58:38 Ukyo: no
08:58:48 Ukyo: i havent technically had a fulltime job in some 12 years :P
08:59:00 Ukyo: I started, fully owned and operated my own datacenter for abotu 8 years
08:59:24 Ukyo: grew into a 2500sqf and up to 7,000 sqft datacenter in Dallas
08:59:54 Duffer1: wait LTC is direct to bitfunder?
09:00:03 Ukyo: what LTC ?
09:00:08 Ukyo: :P
09:00:31 Duffer1: somethin icebreaker mentioned in a thread, just trollin?
09:00:57 Ukyo: nah, hes right
09:01:05 Duffer1: ah
09:01:05 Ukyo: you deposit 'whole' ltc, no decimals
09:01:16 Ukyo: each one becomes 1 share of CRYPTO.LTC
09:02:05 Duffer1: i see
09:02:20 sdfsdfs: what about ltc based assets
09:03:38 Duffer1: damnit
09:03:48 Duffer1: mp was right
09:03:50 Duffer1: i hate that
09:04:59 sdfsdfs: at least burnside provided all issuers with a shareholders list. still he is a fucking scammer
09:05:34 Duffer1: he lives in the US operating an unlicensed securities exchange, this was going to happen
09:05:43 Duffer1: i didn't expect so soon
09:05:49 Ukyo: i think he's mad bro.
09:06:10 sdfsdfs: he is right
09:06:27 Ukyo: to be very clear
09:06:32 Ukyo: I am not happy about this at all
09:06:45 Ukyo: a. BF will be loosing a lot of arb trade
09:06:49 sdfsdfs: you should be
09:06:55 sdfsdfs: lol arb
09:07:05 Ukyo: b. Burnside has now done a great job scaring all the investors/users shitless of any exchanges
09:07:05 sdfsdfs: you will get a lot of new assets
09:07:11 Duffer1: this is a critical moment for you ukyo, step up to take over the entire market
09:07:12 sdfsdfs: and tripple your AM sahres
09:07:33 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: i dont think most assets on btct will pass requirements
09:07:44 sdfsdfs: lol
09:07:51 Ukyo: is cog still operated by a miner?
09:07:52 Ukyo: :P
09:07:55 Ukyo: or is he legal now?
09:08:16 dub: a minor miner no less
09:08:23 sdfsdfs: think he is 18 now
09:08:28 sdfsdfs: at least he is at college
09:09:17 Ukyo: I am mostly intrigued by what Deprived will end up doing
09:09:33 Ukyo: and, tat is still asleep
09:09:41 Ukyo: hes gonna wake up to massive msgs
09:10:04 Rannasha: Burnsides timing could be better too, I think he went to bed shortly after posting the announcement
09:10:14 sdfsdfs: he should set up an exchange outside the us and not accepting us customers
09:10:31 Ukyo: forums say hes online
09:10:50 Ukyo: i would be surprised if he cold get any sleep right now even if he wanted to
09:10:54 sdfsdfs: us gov fucks up everything
09:11:02 Ukyo: us gov?
09:11:16 sdfsdfs: us poker, megaupload, bitcoin
09:11:20 Ukyo: what if it was belize gov?
09:11:23 Ukyo: where btct was registered
09:11:39 Ukyo: but i agree
09:11:45 Rannasha: regardless, the us gov is annoying on many fronts ^^
09:11:45 Ukyo: i forsee most btc sites banning us ips
09:12:03 Ukyo: if I dont get BF's license. and possibly even still
09:12:06 Ukyo: as i have said before
09:12:06 sdfsdfs: it is always the us gov that is why so many people dont like america
09:12:09 Ukyo: bf may have to give notice to us users
09:12:19 Ukyo: but if we have to, HL will too
09:12:36 sdfsdfs: i hope so
09:12:42 sdfsdfs: easy to use a vpn
09:12:46 sdfsdfs: for us users
09:13:24 Ukyo: or register as a cheap $50 corp in london ;)
09:14:00 Ukyo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3215540#msg3215540 <-- see, hes awake
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09:14:23 Duffer1: Ukyo do you see any problems in possibly listing Labcoin on Bitfunder?
09:14:37 Rannasha: ah right, he posted that he'd answer more questions "tomorrow", but I guess he ended up not going to sleep just yet.
09:14:39 Ukyo: i see potentnial problems in most all assets :P
09:14:41 Duffer1: you're the next logical choice for the operator
09:14:48 Ukyo: even some on bf which I have been working on
09:15:12 sdfsdfs: ukyo but you belive in labcoin? apperently you are a shareholder
09:15:13 Ukyo: Duffer1: keep in mind, labcoin probably wont even know about btct for a week, based on their communications ability :P
09:15:13 Rannasha: I think Labcoin is going to have problems listing whereever they try, with all their terrible communication and broken promises
09:15:23 Duffer1: ha good point
09:15:31 Ukyo: sdfsdfs: touch call
09:15:33 Ukyo: tough call
09:15:38 Ukyo: this puts me in a position i did not want
09:15:45 Ukyo: i may have to ask them to proove things to me
09:15:51 Ukyo: which puts me in a bad position vs normal shareholders
09:15:52 Duffer1: please do
09:16:11 Duffer1: man you could put the screws to them and get some answers shareholders have been demanding for aLONG time
09:16:22 Ukyo: I refuse to trade on/with assets that I have any additional knowledge of unless all users are aware of it
09:16:24 Ukyo: such as AM board
09:16:25 Ukyo: etc
09:16:31 Ukyo: and even AM doesnt give any info out
09:17:19 Duffer1: get them to show you a vid of their setup, with IDs of the principles
09:17:26 Ukyo: well
09:17:28 Ukyo: to list on bf
09:17:36 Ukyo: we require business documentation and peronal ID
09:17:44 Ukyo: er personal
09:17:48 Ukyo: of all actual owners
09:18:08 Ukyo: i agree that issuers need to fully scrutinzed and investigated
09:18:15 Ukyo: i think users should be free to be anonymous as they want tho
09:18:45 Ukyo: ooh
09:18:48 Ukyo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg3215586#msg3215586 <-- good point
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09:19:02 Duffer1: what's the issue with direct BTC integration with BF? legal reasons?
09:19:27 Ukyo: Duffer1: actually it has helped quite a bit for legal reasons
09:19:29 sdfsdfs: lol why is the COGNITIV share price higher than before the closure
09:19:42 Ukyo: i also dont want to maintain and operate 2 wallets
09:19:53 Ukyo: also, user security stuffs
09:47:34 Vexual: i thought paying a team of lawyers big bickies to tell you that you're breaking the law would come to be known as a neobee, i guess it's a burnside now
09:54:21 gangplank: better call saul
11:19:12 pankkake: people are still betting on "there will be blood". that's cheating
11:19:50 pankkake: well, not really actually. things could change
11:22:07 dexX7: yup, it's cheating!
11:22:25 dexX7: cut off the last 6 bets :p
11:23:48 pankkake: at least the "multiple exchanges" ipos make sense now
11:24:12 dexX7: hehe true
11:24:28 pankkake: I'm more upset of the loss of ltc-global… I'm going to be stuck with ltcs and they have lost a lot of value
11:25:09 dexX7: are you talking about the stock or exchange re "loss of ltc-global"
11:25:13 dexX7: ?
11:25:23 pankkake: yes, the ltc stocks :)
11:25:26 pankkake: Deprived is buying back his stuff
11:25:42 dexX7: yup
11:26:04 pankkake: let's hope he creates a BTC-ATF :)
11:26:32 ozbot: BitBet - There will be blood
11:28:01 pankkake: imagine btctctt delays its closure a bit… that would be fun
11:28:10 pankkake: it's planned 2 weeks before the stated date
11:28:18 dexX7: "or if its current owner announces its closure"
11:28:24 pankkake: oh :/
11:28:42 pankkake: or its transfer to anonymous parties
11:28:46 pankkake: well thought!
11:29:54 pankkake: I wonder what the labcoin guys will do. so tempting to just walk away
11:30:41 dexX7: i agree, this will be exciting
11:32:01 saulimus: hm. I wish the site would just appear somewhere else, like the pirate bay.
11:33:53 pankkake: the MPEX model is quite close to the new pirate bay model
11:34:03 pankkake: the core doesn't do much
11:34:17 pankkake: torrents are hosted elsewhere, trackers too
11:34:30 pankkake: and there are proxys
11:35:32 Scrat: the core doesn't do much?
11:35:35 Scrat: you serious?
11:36:00 San1ty__: Any news?
11:36:20 San1ty__: ThickerThanThiev, already online?
11:38:23 ThickAsThieves: yeha i'm here
11:38:26 ThickAsThieves: busy but here
11:38:39 dexX7: how's your day so far?
11:41:29 ThickAsThieves: i had prepared for a long day today
11:41:39 ThickAsThieves: just didnt realize itd be this long
11:41:43 ThickAsThieves: twss
11:42:13 ThickAsThieves: We had already been discussing a plan for BTCT closure since it was obviously imminent
11:42:58 nii236|irssi: The fact that a plan exists is promising
11:52:22 San1ty__: ThickAsThieves, Good to hear you have it under control.
11:54:06 Apocalyptic: BTCT is closing ?
11:54:18 DiabloD3: yes
11:54:25 DiabloD3: I dont get why this is big news
11:54:45 nii236|irssi: DiabloD3: You don't think its important to know?
11:54:58 VanCleef: whats happening with bitfunder?
11:55:00 DiabloD3: I mean, I dont get why anyone is surprised
11:55:07 DiabloD3: VanCleef: well, its about to get a fuckton of new assets
11:55:25 VanCleef: oh, so its safe for now?
11:55:43 DiabloD3: yeah, for now
11:56:05 VanCleef: do you think it will face the same fate as btct?
11:56:11 DiabloD3: maybe in a few months
11:56:15 VanCleef: fuck
11:56:23 DiabloD3: hey, I warned everyone
11:56:25 Scrat: thank you SEC for protecting us
11:56:30 Scrat: im gonna move to murica
11:56:34 VanCleef: yeah true
11:56:37 DiabloD3: the SEC is going to attack all the victims of GLBSE
11:56:44 VanCleef: scrat brings more guns with you, they dont have enough
11:56:47 Ogedei_: are they all based out of the US?
11:56:53 Ogedei_: how the fk is sec shuting them down
11:56:56 VanCleef: is bitfunder based in usa?
11:56:56 dexX7: well how knows. burnside "couldn't comment on bf's situation"
11:58:56 freshcoin: Its nice waking up in the morning to being fucked by burnside
12:00:09 DiabloD3: Ogedei_: all of them are US
12:00:14 DiabloD3: except for GLBSE
12:00:21 DiabloD3: which the british SEC shut down
12:03:47 San1ty__: is bitfunder going to to have the same faith as btc-tc?
12:04:22 DiabloD3: what, run until its shut down?
12:04:25 DiabloD3: probably
12:04:29 DiabloD3: its all anyone can do
12:09:14 San1ty__: Blergh
12:09:24 San1ty__: you need a weexchange account for bitfunder
12:09:25 San1ty__: derp
12:09:37 San1ty__: too bad I'm forced to use that exchange now...
12:09:49 DiabloD3: I wonder what BTC-MINING is going to do about this
12:16:36 NSAFBI: V'Las: کیوں آپ کو ایک Shuttlepod شروع کیا؟
12:16:36 NSAFBI: Tucker: کیوں تم اس پر برطرف کر دیا؟
12:16:36 NSAFBI: حملے اور Maywether Mannöver پرواز کرنے کی حوصلہ افزائی کی گئی ہے جس کے تحت Shuttlepod میں Lt.Reed:
12:16:36 NSAFBI: Lt.Reed: میں نے آج ناشتا چھوڑ دینا چاہئے
12:16:36 NSAFBI: "Borderland"
12:16:37 NSAFBI: Dr.Soong جوناتھن آرچر ... وہ یہاں کیا اس کی طرف جاتا ہے؟ تم ان کے لیے جیل کا نام تبدیل کرنا چاہتے ہیں؟
12:16:39 NSAFBI: "موت اسٹیشن"
12:16:41 NSAFBI: کمانڈر Tucker اور آرچر سرخ ذکر نقصان بھی شامل ہے انٹرپرائز holographically کم نمائندگی ہے جہاں Reperationsstation کی کمان مرکز درج کریں:
12:16:43 NSAFBI: کمانڈر Tucker: میں واقعی میں ہر چھوٹی تفصیل کو گرفتار کر لیا اور یہاں درج ہے کہ یقین نہیں ہوتا. دیکھو، مجھے بالکل بیرونی شیل کے ساتھ فیری کی جگہ کے معائنے پر 1 سال پہلے کر دیا ہے.
12:16:44 MobPhone: DiabloD3 I'm here
12:16:45 NSAFBI: آرچر: میں تم سے اس پر پینٹ کر سکتے ہیں نہیں بتایا تھا؟
12:16:48 NSAFBI: Tucker: میں نے پہلے تھا جلد ہی ....
12:16:50 NSAFBI: "اگردوت"
12:16:52 NSAFBI: Tucker اس کے کوارٹر فائنل میں T'Pol کے ساتھ بیٹھتا ہے اور
12:16:53 DiabloD3: MobPhone: hi.
12:17:02 Ukyo: anyone else notice that burnside renamed the thread to 'Virtual Community Exchange' ? :P
12:17:13 DiabloD3: burnside is such a fucking scammer
12:17:16 DiabloD3: hes just like nefario
12:17:27 MobPhone: DiabloD3 how do I transfer
12:17:31 DiabloD3: transfer what?
12:17:36 Ukyo: the world
12:17:41 MobPhone: Asic
12:17:44 MobPhone: Share
12:17:47 DiabloD3: talk to your PT owner
12:18:34 MobPhone: Wtf going crazy
12:18:36 MobPhone: Brb
12:18:42 Scrat: who is the best bitcoin troll
12:18:50 Scrat: DiabloD3 or Troll-Jr
12:18:52 Scrat: vote now
12:18:53 DiabloD3: Scrat: hey now
12:18:56 DiabloD3: what about nefario
12:19:00 DiabloD3: or the guy that owned bitcoinica
12:19:11 DiabloD3: they trolled everyone everywhere forever
12:19:21 Scrat: they were douchebags, not trolls
12:19:22 efbiai: netsplit?
12:19:34 DiabloD3: and we get to add burnside to the list too
12:19:41 DiabloD3: and the bfl guys
12:19:44 DiabloD3: they trolled too
12:20:40 soypirate: anyone know how to deal with btc-bond shares? should I try to transfer or redeem them at this point?
12:21:28 DiabloD3: anyhow, I hope I can significantly buy back DMC before BF goes next
12:21:46 DiabloD3: at least we're past the 75% mark
12:22:48 kakobrekla: DAFUQ happend here
12:22:52 ozbot: BitBet - There will be blood
12:23:53 Scrat: oh shit kakobrekla
12:23:58 Scrat: just a few minutes ago it was even
12:24:11 kakobrekla: hyeah is why im asking wtf
12:24:50 kakobrekla: aa
12:25:01 kakobrekla: BTCTC is shutting down
12:25:01 kakobrekla: lmao
12:25:34 kakobrekla: "oh what a surprise!"
12:25:56 Ukyo: :P
12:26:02 Ukyo: shit happens
12:26:15 soypirate: am i just screwed with these btc-bonds?
12:26:44 Ukyo: soypirate: have to talk to namworld
12:27:09 soypirate: ok, thanks buddy...
12:27:09 kakobrekla: becase, as someone has tought me on the forum, business is fun ad not business, shit happens
12:27:25 kakobrekla: fuckin kezboard
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12:29:10 efbiai: V'Las: کیوں آپ کو ایک Shuttlepod شروع کیا؟
12:29:10 efbiai: Tucker: کیوں تم اس پر برطرف کر دیا؟
12:29:10 efbiai: حملے اور Maywether Mannöver پرواز کرنے کی حوصلہ افزائی کی گئی ہے جس کے تحت Shuttlepod میں Lt.Reed:
12:29:10 efbiai: Lt.Reed: میں نے آج ناشتا چھوڑ دینا چاہئے
12:29:12 efbiai: "Borderland"
12:29:14 efbiai: Dr.Soong جوناتھن آرچر ... وہ یہاں کیا اس کی طرف جاتا ہے؟ تم ان کے لیے جیل کا نام تبدیل کرنا چاہتے ہیں؟
12:29:17 efbiai: "موت اسٹیشن"
12:29:19 efbiai: کمانڈر Tucker اور آرچر سرخ ذکر نقصان بھی شامل ہے انٹرپرائز holographically کم نمائندگی ہے جہاں Reperationsstation کی کمان مرکز درج کریں:
12:29:21 efbiai: کمانڈر Tucker: میں واقعی میں ہر چھوٹی تفصیل کو گرفتار کر لیا اور یہاں درج ہے کہ یقین نہیں ہوتا. دیکھو، مجھے بالکل بیرونی شیل کے ساتھ فیری کی جگہ کے معائنے پر 1 سال پہلے کر دیا ہے.
12:29:23 efbiai: آرچر: میں تم سے اس پر پینٹ کر سکتے ہیں نہیں بتایا تھا؟
12:29:23 San1ty__: what the hell is up with that spam?.
12:29:25 efbiai: Tucker: میں نے پہلے تھا جلد ہی ....
12:29:27 efbiai: "اگردوت"
12:29:30 efbiai: Tucker اس کے کوارٹر فائنل میں T'Pol کے ساتھ بیٹھتا ہے اور
12:30:01 Ukyo: kakobrekla: ouch
12:30:17 Rulother: sigh
12:30:29 Scrat: this isnt #bitcoin-terrorists
12:30:47 saulimus: that looks like a star trek script
12:31:30 MobGod_: DiabloD3 back
12:35:12 leotreasure: BTCOxygen what's going on? You have been ignoring me. Is this how you treat all your investors? I've been very patient with you. I will be cutting my losses and be leaving negative ratings and scam warnings if you have not returned my original investment capital within 48 hours. I will not accept excuses. Sort your shit out!
12:36:20 kakobrekla: oh?
12:36:25 kakobrekla: whats this about anyway
12:36:56 leotreasure: private investment
12:37:14 leotreasure: hey kakobrekla long time - how's things?
12:37:33 kakobrekla: good! thanks, and you?
12:38:19 leotreasure: great! i got some really fantastic upcoming news for Australia hopefully tomorrow will have confirmation
12:39:08 kakobrekla: :)
12:39:56 nii236|irssi: leotreasure: That sounds promising
12:40:47 leotreasure: involves a major shopping centre and a Lamassu machine or 2 ;)
12:40:58 leotreasure: possibly more
12:41:24 kakobrekla: aha
12:41:46 kakobrekla: but this btc thing is not a little everyday spenders thing
12:42:19 nii236|irssi: leotreasure: Australia is pretty big bro, I can only assume this does not involve Perth over here
12:42:36 leotreasure: correct - currently I'm in Melbourne
12:42:51 leotreasure: actually - sorry incorrect
12:42:56 leotreasure: does involve Perth
12:43:08 leotreasure: trying to cover all major cities
12:43:14 leotreasure: only have 5 machines though
12:44:00 leotreasure: so far we will most likely have Sydney, Perth, Melbourne and Tas or Brisbane
12:44:52 Graet: brisbane is pretty active i found
12:45:06 Graet: havent met any tas bitcoiners yet
12:45:29 p2pool00: assbot: .-(
12:46:18 nii236|irssi: leotreasure: Awesome!
12:46:42 nii236|irssi: leotreasure: Didn't think Lamassu had machines ready
12:46:51 leotreasure: they're in the final process
12:47:00 saulimus: why can't burnside just give the source code of the site to someone? seems like such a waste otherwise
12:50:55 soypirate: do you guys know if any other exchanges are set to follow suit here?
12:53:45 pankkake: this chan thought BF would be the first
12:53:49 pankkake: a few months ago
12:53:54 pankkake: or weeks(?)
12:54:17 Rulother: Havelock is pretty safe being in Canada and all though right?
12:54:20 saulimus: tat.asicminer frozen on btct
12:54:46 soypirate: that's what i'm assuming
12:55:04 soypirate: Rulother: that's what I assumed
12:55:09 Rulother: yeah
12:55:51 soypirate: I want to have some faith in mpex as well. this is just a bad omen here...
12:56:12 Rulother: Sorry MP, but I'm not paying 30btc to trade :P
12:56:54 pankkake: CoinBr.
13:10:57 M0NK_: wts Single
13:11:33 Rulother: lol
13:19:21 ThickAsThieves: shouldnt There Will Be Blood be closed?
13:20:00 ThickAsThieves: kakobrekla ^^^
13:21:04 kakobrekla: i dont do that.
13:21:50 ThickAsThieves: word
13:22:05 ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu ?
13:22:22 kakobrekla: talk to him yea
13:23:42 Duffer1: 15b and so many discounts to choose from... what to buy what to buy..
13:24:17 soypirate: is btc-bond traded on any other exchanges? I haven't seen it anywhere else, so I'm assuming the answer is no
13:26:37 M0NK_: [\\\]: are you candoo?
13:26:37 M0NK_: [\\\]: pls give me my coinz back
13:26:43 ozbot: Free cloud-based stratum proxy for Slush & BTCGuild (beta)
13:28:10 Duffer1: ouch lol btc-trading-pt .04
13:28:37 kakobrekla: gotta love the free market
13:29:18 Duffer1: i actually feel bad for the people panicking and/or losing money :/
13:30:09 Duffer1: it's hard to see your assets lose so much value and not panic
13:30:21 kakobrekla: i feel good
13:30:24 kakobrekla: when noobs lose money
13:30:54 jurov: does it fall under the blood bitbet bet?
13:31:07 Duffer1: definately
13:31:19 Duffer1: even if he's selling it and it doesn't close
13:31:32 jurov: yes, bet says November 17th, 2012 for BTCT
13:31:33 ThickAsThieves: it says it is closing
13:31:35 ThickAsThieves: not selling
13:31:59 VanCleef: you owe me 1btc thickasthieves
13:32:37 Scrat: JD at -2k
13:32:40 Scrat: oh man
13:33:11 random_cat: the day the music died
13:33:18 Rulother: ^
13:33:31 ThickAsThieves: I owe you shit
13:33:46 ThickAsThieves: first, you never accepted the bet
13:34:11 VanCleef: lol ya i did
13:34:15 ThickAsThieves: !ticker btct ASICMINER-PT
13:34:20 VanCleef: and asicminer priced touched on 1btc
13:34:31 VanCleef: if you look at btct chart
13:35:09 ThickAsThieves: second, i also never accepted the bet
13:35:18 ThickAsThieves: i gave you warning about the bet
13:35:21 ThickAsThieves: then you dropped it
13:35:29 VanCleef: no
13:35:47 ThickAsThieves: third, did it even touch 1?
13:35:50 VanCleef: i'm not really seriously about it
13:36:00 VanCleef: yeah i think so according to btct chart
13:37:33 dexX7: am @ 1 was touched very shortly after trading was started again
13:38:28 VanCleef: yeah nice
13:38:35 VanCleef: technicially i won that bet :)
13:39:32 VanCleef: oh 1.05 apparently lol
13:39:46 ThickAsThieves: see pm
13:41:31 thestringpuller: you ain't gotta like it but the hood gone love it!
13:43:41 Scrat: time to hire TATI-PR
13:44:20 Scrat: just have to find a double D girl with a triple digit IQ
13:44:55 ThickAsThieves: so she can do what?
13:45:07 pankkake: that should be as easy as finding a bitcoin security that isn't a scam
13:45:21 Vexual: IQ OVER 100!
13:46:08 Scrat: ThickAsThieves: I wasn't insinuating anything :p
13:47:45 ThickAsThieves: sorry, i'm on edge today,
13:47:48 kakobrekla: LMFAO
13:47:53 kakobrekla: >c) Create a new exchange (can't go into details right now but this is a possibility)
13:47:55 ozbot: [LTC-GLOBAL] CIPHERMINE Industrial Cryptocoin Mining & High Perf. Computing
13:48:09 ThickAsThieves: even though we decided a coiple days ago that BTCT was def closing, and started planning,
13:48:19 ThickAsThieves: my day is already jampacked
13:48:28 ThickAsThieves: and tomorrow I leave the country for 9 days
13:48:38 ThickAsThieves: so burnside's timing is awesome
13:48:48 Scrat: kakobrekla: apt-get install php5, vim exchange.php
13:48:50 Scrat: DONE
13:48:56 kakobrekla: lolz
13:49:11 ThickAsThieves: Kate is also advising people to sell at a loss
13:49:13 ThickAsThieves: funny shit
13:49:19 ThickAsThieves: scammy bitch
13:49:28 matuszed: Yea so scammy
13:49:40 matuszed: she only said it to "small investors"
13:49:49 ThickAsThieves: as in, anyone that isnt her
13:50:00 kakobrekla: STOP THE SLANDER YOU HEAR
13:50:02 kakobrekla: lol
13:50:05 matuszed: haha
13:50:11 VanCleef: its funny because shes not even a woman
13:50:21 VanCleef: scamming guys at nightclubs
13:50:33 ThickAsThieves: well i have nothing against sexchangers, i honestly have no exposure to them
13:50:35 VanCleef: may as well invest in chelsea manning
13:52:10 Vexual: friedcat-style
13:56:44 jcpham: what is all dis justdice drama
13:57:44 Scrat: jcpham: retards who dont understand statistics
14:19:33 kakobrekla: !t bt labcoin
14:19:56 zoinky: .00025
14:19:57 zoinky: lol
14:20:06 kakobrekla: amazing company
14:20:22 saulimus: amazing trade.
14:20:45 jcpham: GO LABCOIN!
14:21:08 amig0: I LOVE YOU GUYS
14:21:19 jurov: ME TOO
14:21:21 Rulother: Supposedly the .00025 wa sa typo?
14:21:22 jcpham: LET'S SEE SOME ACTIVEMINING PICS NOW
14:21:27 zoinky: someone with fat fingers
14:21:35 zoinky: he posted on the forum saying he messed up and lost 10 btc
14:21:53 Rulother: I'm guessing after the book was cleared lol
14:21:58 zoinky: yeah
14:22:25 MilkyLep: Im kinda bummed the book got cleared
14:22:42 MilkyLep: had many low bids I wish weak hands wouldve dumped into
14:23:57 Rulother: What a fucking panic
14:24:13 Rulother: I can't wait to see "Ok guys, I worked something out we'll be ok."
14:24:29 Rulother: If I see that I'll agree with MP that burnside is nothing but a scammer
14:25:58 MilkyLep: Burnside seemed sketched when everyone panicked over the earlier SEC scare this summer, I think this is the end.
14:26:27 MilkyLep: He couldve gone about this better, possibly freezing all trading for 24 hours to avoid so much panic
14:26:58 saulimus: yes. some people, such as me, were sleeping when all this happened.
14:27:09 Rulother: saulimus, same
14:27:29 Rulother: 3am est, what the hell isn't he on the east coast?
14:28:14 fractal: somethign seirously fucked up going on at just-dice.com.... nakowa has won over 12,000 BTC now
14:28:22 jcpham: woohoo
14:28:25 KRS-1: the f
14:28:30 matuszed: Error in their random value calcualtion?
14:28:31 jcpham: dooglus gonna be pissed
14:28:34 saulimus: ??
14:28:41 fractal: he took profit from 7000 BTC to -2500 in 2-3 days
14:29:18 fractal: one guy literally winning $1.5 million in 2 days
14:29:20 saulimus: well, atleast he's got balls...
14:29:32 fractal: either he hacked the server seed, or is the luckeist mf on the planet
14:30:55 jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1my8fc/im_the_whale_on_justdice_id_love_to_answer/ but he isn't saying anything concrete
14:31:52 saulimus: heh, yeah. an AMA where he doesn't reveal anything isn't really an AMA at all
14:32:05 Scrat: matuszed: nop, if HMAC_SHA512 had any bias then it would be thrown out the fucking window
14:32:36 Scrat: hash functions are rigorously tested for uniformity
14:32:52 fractal: its just insane to see the destruction going on for investors over there
14:32:53 fractal: insane.
14:32:55 MilkyLep: Strange how that scam accusation comes up about server seeds then the whale(s) keep on winning
14:34:08 saulimus: yes, whales losing money all the time is fine :)
14:39:53 the20year1: I'm curious why burnside didn't locate the business, servers, site and everything in Panama and tell anyone who threatened legal action to GFY
14:41:09 pankkake: it's already listed in Belize
14:41:41 jcpham: did we have another glbse
14:41:44 jcpham: incident?
14:42:02 pankkake: btctctcttc is the new glbse
14:43:09 kakobrekla: btctc has been glbse'd.
14:43:18 jcpham: i just read the announcement
14:43:21 Vexual: shoulda mcafeed
14:43:43 jcpham: mircea_popescu is elated to be so correct, I'm sure
14:43:59 kakobrekla: yeah he nailed it
14:44:09 the20year1: Glad I didn't cross-list on BTCT
14:44:19 the20year1: Any ideas on why they're shutting down?
14:44:20 kakobrekla: nailed it, again, god damn.
14:45:04 zoinky: burnside has been iffy with legal stuff for quite awhile.. i thought he wouldve sold the site tho
14:45:20 Rulother: Burnside's lawyers are basically telling him to shut it down
14:47:02 the20year1: US lawyers or outside of the US?
14:47:12 fractal: why is MPOE still running if the others have to shut down?????
14:47:18 the20year1: I'd of bought the exchange from him :D
14:47:36 Rulother: Would you of rented it out to outsiders? :P
14:47:53 zoinky: because MPOE is a honeypot for the NSA
14:48:02 zoinky: and SEC
14:48:05 zoinky: :troll:
14:48:27 the20year1: I'm sure the SEC has paid plenty of attention to it
14:48:30 fractal: well thats good. someone else can open another exchange
14:48:38 zoinky: www.bitfunder.com
14:49:09 zoinky: wonder if it could handle the traffic
14:49:44 kakobrekla: fractal you trolling right?
14:50:14 jurov: i wonder too. with ukyo focusing on legal issues instead of the site
14:50:20 fractal: what?
14:50:36 kakobrekla: mpex is forever
14:50:45 fractal: if the site is outside the US and the owner isn't american, i fail to see what jurisdiction the SEC has..
14:51:03 matuszed: Because
14:51:06 the20year1: In this case ,the owner is american
14:51:07 Scrat: fractal: "American investors"
14:51:17 matuszed: No nation is going to pick a fight with the SEC
14:51:22 matuszed: over something as treivial as a btc exchange
14:51:29 matuszed: trivial*
14:51:44 zoinky: sealand might
14:51:45 fractal: matuszed: pretty sure if you host it in venezula, or a non-aligned country, they wont give 2 fucks
14:51:48 jurov: if you as an american invest anywhere, the SEC is here to protect you
14:51:56 the20year1: Correct
14:52:17 fractal: SEC has ZERO pull in non-algined countries.... host in russia or venezuala, or iran
14:52:25 ozbot: Deltron 3030: Deltron 3030: Event II | Advance | Pitchfork
14:52:32 VanCleef: yw
14:52:33 the20year1: Does the SEC have any pull outside of the US/
14:52:35 zoinky: deltron is in philly next month
14:52:39 zoinky: xcite
14:52:41 the20year1: I didn't think they even had much of a pull with TSX
14:52:44 VanCleef: nice zionky
14:53:05 fractal: the20year1: only with countries that have strong US ties...... thats why i say host the site in a country with weak US ties and the SEC wont have jurisdiction imo
14:53:25 matuszed: That helps but its not going to save you
14:54:16 jurov: you'll have to forever avoid travelling to the US
14:54:54 jurov: to not end up like dmitry sklyarov
14:54:54 kakobrekla: i accepted that
14:57:19 kakobrekla: this reminds me of nefario
14:57:28 kakobrekla: talking about btc to border officers
14:57:44 kakobrekla: how he has a guy who will exchange this btc for cash in the city
14:57:48 kakobrekla: lmao
14:58:58 jurov: lol he did what?
14:59:08 jurov: i must have forgoten
14:59:11 ozbot: Bitcoin developer halted at US Customs for lack of real cash | Digital Trends
14:59:20 kakobrekla: its down
15:01:58 kakobrekla: ahaha
15:02:02 kakobrekla: <3 IA
15:02:05 kakobrekla: jurov ^^
15:02:07 ozbot: No Electronic devices - GLBSE
15:02:39 ozbot: gox comments on BTC-TC Website Shutdown Announcement
15:02:42 jcpham: the mighty gox weighs in
15:03:34 kakobrekla: at that point i knew the dude was retarded really
15:05:47 jurov: "Finally don't lie, they will find out, and they are likely to ban you for life from entering the U.S. ever again." oh nefario
15:05:50 arij: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
15:05:56 arij: what the f
15:06:03 zoinky: TorBroker still exists?
15:06:08 jurov: arij, should have stayed on mpex
15:06:11 zoinky: has anyone been using that?..
15:06:12 arij: is this real life
15:06:21 arij: we got delisted from mpex
15:06:21 kakobrekla: haha
15:06:31 kakobrekla: :D
15:06:52 arij: well there goes that
15:06:54 DiabloD3: that'd be mp
15:07:03 kakobrekla: this is so fun, unlike business, or just like, im not sure!
15:07:07 arij: jeeze where is namworld when you need him
15:07:40 jurov: no you didn't want to be on mpex in first place.. don't bs us
15:07:40 MilkyLep: Sleeping.
15:07:48 jcpham: namworls flees to caymans with books
15:08:27 arij: i didnt want to be anywhere.. we just did it to not screw people over that invested from the rg era
15:08:45 arij: well anyways... bitvps is still running and more work to do. ill get back to that
15:09:04 Scrat: arij is the man
15:09:22 arij: no scrat is the man
15:21:56 jcpham: fwiw i still had funds there and was able to withdraw them
15:28:21 dexX7: jcpham: manual withdrawal?
15:28:44 jcpham: it was under the 2.4 or whatever
15:28:53 jcpham: so it happened immediately
15:28:57 dexX7: ah k
15:29:13 jcpham: 1.9 and some change
15:37:43 Rulother: Haven't seen Basic go below .1 in quite a while
15:53:50 lewicki: Black Monday?
15:57:25 thestringpuller: THERE WILL BE BLOOD RESOLVES NO
15:57:32 thestringpuller: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
15:57:49 Apocalyptic: wtf
15:57:53 thestringpuller: err
15:57:53 thestringpuller: yes*
15:57:55 thestringpuller: MY BAD
15:58:31 ThickAsThieves: why is it even open
15:58:46 pankkake: I hope the last bets will be "refund"
16:00:06 Apocalyptic: 85 btc bet
16:01:35 kakobrekla: pankkake you from de perhaps?
16:01:41 pankkake: .fr
16:01:43 pankkake: why?
16:01:49 kakobrekla: a ok nvm
16:01:52 Apocalyptic: Paris ?
16:01:55 pankkake: yes
16:02:25 Apocalyptic: Bitcoin-central still behind schedule...
16:07:03 samson_: Hmm BTCTshutting down ? http://thegenesisblock.com/btc-trading-corp-shutters-operations-cites-regulatory-environment/
16:08:17 VanCleef: holy fuck lol
16:09:00 thestringpuller: MY BAD
16:11:23 thestringpuller: ;;clac (6.9 + 10 + 10 + 10) / 40
16:11:27 thestringpuller: ;;calc (6.9 + 10 + 10 + 10) / 40
16:11:44 thestringpuller: ;;calc (6.9 + 9 + 9 + 9) / 40
16:15:26 thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe
16:15:34 thestringpuller: :D
16:19:16 pankkake: wow, thank you Deprived for divesting
16:19:45 pankkake: I'm almost back on JD
16:21:52 amig0: pankkake: JD?
16:21:57 pankkake: Just-Dice
16:22:02 amig0: oh
16:27:07 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
16:40:59 kakobrekla: >I know what I have done is inexcusable, but please understand the circumstances. I wanted my company to have more money. At the time of doing it, I justified it to myself by saying it was in the best interest of the company. But it really didn't turn out that way did it... I've learnt my lesson and won't be doing that again, that's for sure.
16:41:13 kakobrekla: anyone wanna guess who said that
16:41:44 ThickAsThieves: Garr?
16:41:51 kakobrekla: damn too easy.
16:41:53 ThickAsThieves: hehe
16:42:16 thestringpuller: who is Garr?
16:42:34 kakobrekla: cognitive scammer
16:43:31 ThickAsThieves: it almost sounds cool with cognitive as an adjective
16:44:20 kakobrekla: hes a ratty-snake
16:45:06 MilkyLep: Hes fucking pissing me off these past few days
16:45:11 kakobrekla: also he blew inabas pack or whatever he has between his legs
16:46:16 ThickAsThieves: MilkLep are you chaangnoi or something?
16:46:24 kakobrekla: lol
16:46:37 MilkyLep: no, I can only imagine goat boy is livid though
16:47:00 ThickAsThieves: shill payments are late?
16:48:49 MilkyLep: fuck man, whats new, I knew my risks and I accept that, but the kid is putting his future and his companies future in jeopardy recently
16:48:49 ThickAsThieves: why is jgarzik out of the woodwork with telling everyone to make a decentralized exchange?
16:48:57 MilkyLep: that is what I didnt forsee
16:49:13 ThickAsThieves: you didnt foresee a kid crashing mom's car?
16:49:49 MilkyLep: I expected to jump out the window before hitting the tree
16:49:56 ystarnaud: lol
16:50:25 kakobrekla: then you deserve to be played, its how it goes.
16:50:37 pankkake: maybe the next step is a TOR exchange, where everything is allowed
16:50:37 pankkake: (i.e. scams allowed)
16:50:38 pankkake: it would be part of the game
16:50:45 ThickAsThieves: [12:49] <MilkyLep> I expected to jump out the window before hitting the tree <<< fair enough!
16:51:57 kakobrekla: MilkyLep its change your 'invesment' strategy or run out of btc
16:51:59 ThickAsThieves: i wonder why anyone would buy shares in BTCT at this time
16:52:14 MilkyLep: lol kako please spare me
16:52:36 kakobrekla: i will, but only cause im out of time, bbl
16:52:52 MilkyLep: I accept my losses and im dar from out or completely burned
16:52:57 MilkyLep: far*
16:55:35 MilkyLep: @ TAT Faith in issuers.
16:56:04 ThickAsThieves: i mean actual shares in the exchange
16:56:08 ThickAsThieves: [BTC-TRADING-PT]
16:56:26 MilkyLep: ahh "in" my bad
16:56:43 MilkyLep: Yea who knows
16:57:12 pankkake: those should go to zero… unless maybe there's a sale of the source code
16:57:15 MilkyLep: I never read the contract, I assume theres some buyback clause?
16:57:35 ThickAsThieves: doubtful
16:57:38 MilkyLep: Split of site trading fees over the next month?
16:57:47 ThickAsThieves: he edited most details out of the contract a while ago
16:58:07 MilkyLep: How convienent
16:58:10 ThickAsThieves: he'll just say lawyer fees ate up all the trade fees
16:58:56 kakobrekla: oh shit i should add [FC]
16:59:20 the20year1: No reason for a TOR exchange
16:59:31 the20year1: Just have everything located in Panama or Hong Kong
16:59:41 jcpham: so mircea_popescu penning the most epic fraudsters evar right now or what?
16:59:46 ThickAsThieves: everyone will be talking about colored coins and decentralized exchange ideas for weeks
16:59:46 jcpham: where the gloating
16:59:52 jcpham: i have my popcorn here
17:00:31 pankkake: pretty much as buttercoin was a thing after one mtgox issue or something
17:00:31 pankkake: the20year1: it's already in Belize
17:00:37 the20year1: and the servers? and the owner?
17:01:00 pankkake: servers are easy
17:01:00 ThickAsThieves: US
17:01:03 pankkake: owners less so
17:01:09 ThickAsThieves: both in US
17:01:24 pankkake: I mean, you can move servers where you want
17:01:38 ThickAsThieves: last we spoke, he hadnt moved em though
17:01:52 ThickAsThieves: no idea about now
17:02:29 pankkake: Should litecoinglobal.com operate at a loss for more than 30 days, burnside reserves the option to liquidate and distribute the proceeds.
17:02:32 pankkake: The likely assets would be:
17:02:34 pankkake: - the domain litecoinglobal.com.
17:02:37 pankkake: - the website code.
17:02:39 pankkake: - the customer list.
17:02:42 pankkake: - anything left in the site wallet.
17:02:53 pankkake: maybe you can hope to profit on bitcoins left on wallets!
17:03:33 pankkake: and sell e-mails to spammers
17:03:45 kakobrekla: lol
17:06:24 the20year1: So was this whole thing due to the SEC , or burnside's lawyers saying the SEC would eventually come down on him?
17:06:25 arij: anyone know why its shutting down?
17:06:38 arij: yea some one answer the20year1 :)
17:07:48 BigBitz: is burnside a real life MM/Exchange guy?
17:23:26 dexX7: ;;echo dexX7
17:25:49 mircea_popescu: ;;echo ;;echo dexx7
17:25:59 dexX7: shht
17:26:02 mircea_popescu: lol it doesn't answer to itself
17:26:09 dexX7: i set up a sound notification :)
17:26:35 mircea_popescu: oops lol. sorry.
17:26:39 dexX7: haha no, it's fine
17:32:16 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: why hasn't betting close on there will be blood
17:32:22 thestringpuller: closed*
17:32:28 thestringpuller: will new bets be accepted?
17:32:36 mircea_popescu: nah.
17:32:54 thestringpuller: so all bets after the announcement will be voided?
17:33:04 mircea_popescu: refunded yeah.
17:33:22 thestringpuller: ;;seen jurov
17:33:39 thestringpuller: lol this looks like a job for logs
17:34:40 thestringpuller: Oh god poor BITVPS
17:34:43 mircea_popescu: wait wut ?
17:34:54 thestringpuller: BITVPS was originally on mpex
17:34:59 arij: wheres namworld when you need him :/
17:35:02 thestringpuller: contract was breached, you delisted
17:35:21 thestringpuller: i feel for you arij
17:35:29 arij: i cry every time
17:35:35 arij: lol
17:35:47 mircea_popescu: The requested URL / was not found on this server.
17:35:50 mircea_popescu: that's cute.
17:36:13 thestringpuller: maybe mircea_popescu will let you relist
17:36:25 thestringpuller: there's always bitfunder (oldmenlaughing.jpeg)
17:36:30 thestringpuller: ;;google old men laughing meme
17:36:32 arij: haha
17:36:44 arij: rather havelock or mpex if they would have us
17:37:03 mircea_popescu: you know some chinese guy asked me the same thing five minutes ago
17:37:22 thestringpuller: would that chinese guy be friedcat?
17:37:23 thestringpuller: jkjk
17:37:27 mircea_popescu: arij do you have an august revenue report published anywhere ?
17:37:32 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller dun think so.
17:37:38 arij: let me grab you the link
17:37:44 thestringpuller: i think august is on bitvps.com
17:37:51 arij: its not on bitvps.com anymore
17:38:02 arij: we moved the link to btct
17:38:12 arij: no reason random customers should see the financials imo
17:38:16 ozbot: BitVPS Report
17:38:48 mircea_popescu: who
17:38:51 mircea_popescu: s been doing this, namworld ?
17:38:56 arij: that is correct
17:39:11 thestringpuller: why is the cash reserve so low??
17:39:55 arij: hard to keep a big reserve when you need to constantly expand
17:40:17 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller let people run their business lol. i just wanted to see if it exists.
17:40:58 mircea_popescu: this is basically an0, i guess it works. have namworld say hi maybe we work something out here.
17:40:58 arij: where in the world is namworld
17:40:59 arij: lol
17:41:05 arij: alright, will do
17:41:19 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu saves the day
17:41:23 thestringpuller: buy BITVPS
17:42:22 thestringpuller: arij: I was just asking about the cash reserve because it seems you keep profit mainly as BTC and utilize fiat for only paying bills.
17:43:21 arij: namworld says dance, and arij dances
17:43:25 thestringpuller: lolol
18:00:01 San1ty__: Is there any news for the TaT assets and Labcoin?
18:00:14 dexX7: tati is fine
18:00:18 ThickAsThieves: did you check the news on my assets?
18:00:19 dexX7: he's working on a transition
18:00:25 ThickAsThieves: i posted both in each asset and on the threads
18:01:08 San1ty__: ThickAsThieves, Nope sorry, I'll check m now. Just had quick access to IRC.
18:03:10 San1ty__: Ugh bitfunder as well
18:03:12 San1ty__: noes
18:04:47 ThickAsThieves: <San1ty__> Ugh bitfunder as well --- ?
18:06:45 San1ty__: ThickAsThieves, Good news that you are going to havelock as well, but I just don't understand why everyone is so interested on having stuff on bitfunder. But that just my dislike for BF.
18:11:00 ThickAsThieves: we are giving the shareholder the choice
18:11:16 ThickAsThieves: it's not our place to decide which is better
18:11:30 ThickAsThieves: probably a toss-up at this point
18:11:34 San1ty: It's K, I'm not judging you, I'm very happy I get to choose Havelock :).
18:11:48 mircea_popescu: they were on both anyway or am i confused ?
18:11:55 ThickAsThieves: of course TAT.VM is not listed on Havelock, so these people will have to choose BF
18:11:57 San1ty: jup they are both
18:12:09 San1ty: ThickAsThieves, And Neobee, not sure yet?
18:12:20 ThickAsThieves: it's listed on both already
18:12:37 San1ty: ok so I just need to watch for the correct procedure to move?
18:12:44 ThickAsThieves: it's imminent
18:12:54 San1ty: Cheers!
18:13:09 San1ty: Anyway anyone know anything about the AsicMiner-PT ran by burnside?
18:13:36 dexX7: "there are several options"
18:13:45 dexX7: they shuold be fine
18:14:34 qxzn: 7
18:14:47 ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt worry about the AM-PT much
18:14:53 San1ty: dexX7, what do you mean? AsicMiner-PT isn't going to disappear? so BTC-TC will stay online for the AM-PT?
18:15:07 mircea_popescu: probably get the shares transferred to friedcat
18:15:12 mircea_popescu: if he has them.
18:15:15 ThickAsThieves: hehe
18:15:20 ThickAsThieves: he does
18:15:28 San1ty: mircea_popescu, that would be the scam of a century :D
18:15:40 dexX7: no.. burnside just said "we have several options", whatever this means
18:15:57 dexX7: i guess this could be export to direct shares, convertion to bf.am etc.
18:16:07 dexX7: or tat.am of course
18:16:37 mircea_popescu: San1ty heh, not really big enough. scam of the week ?
18:16:53 San1ty: mircea_popescu, Lol :).
18:17:00 San1ty: And what about Lacboin? Slacking as always?
18:17:23 dexX7: "we are evaluating all options"
18:17:52 dexX7: that's pretty much what you'll here everywhere
18:18:18 ThickAsThieves: bitcoin seriously is like the tech soap opera
18:18:32 dexX7: hehe
18:18:32 ThickAsThieves: just when things plateau... bam!
18:18:46 ThickAsThieves: right on cue
18:19:15 dexX7: yup ;/
18:19:25 ThickAsThieves: bitcoin history is so condensed
18:19:33 ThickAsThieves: i wonder if it's lifespan is too
18:19:44 ThickAsThieves: probably...
18:20:43 dexX7: every incident made the underlying system stronger, no?
18:20:57 dexX7: at least i would assume that
18:21:20 mircea_popescu: bitcoin is forever.
18:22:50 zoinky: cant be easy
18:27:45 ThickAsThieves: it's better to burn out, than to fade away ~ Neil Young
18:27:57 ThickAsThieves: not that he's following his advice
18:40:11 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248803.msg3218956#msg3218956 that was pretty much my reaction
18:40:17 ozbot: Inputs.io | Instant Payments, Offchain API, Secure Wallet, 171k+ BTC transferred
18:40:35 pankkake: the whole thing is amateur
18:41:03 mircea_popescu: is that tradefortress' thing ?
18:41:07 pankkake: yes
18:41:31 mircea_popescu: well it's a one man show run by a teen iirc.
18:41:49 ThickAsThieves: is inputs.io dead
18:41:50 ThickAsThieves: ?
18:41:51 mircea_popescu: not doing so bad considering.
18:41:53 pankkake: with dubious security claims, like "we escape stuff"
18:42:00 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nah people pissed off at ssl errors.
18:42:06 ThickAsThieves: ah
18:42:34 pankkake: well the guy says "use this ip" in a forum
18:42:46 pankkake: and we're supposed to trust it
18:42:59 ThickAsThieves: i cant login
18:43:12 ThickAsThieves: it doesnt respond
18:43:14 pankkake: me neither, it seems the backend is down
18:44:10 mircea_popescu: pankkake so tell him to gpg or stfu.
18:44:12 MilkyLep: Wait people use that site?
18:44:17 pankkake: mircea_popescu: already did
18:44:37 pankkake: zero transaction fee is appealing
18:44:46 mircea_popescu: MilkyLep he was running a coin lending programme, and some chatroom or w/e, he has some history.
18:45:51 MilkyLep: About as appealing as a juicy worm looks on the end of a hook to a fish.
18:45:58 MilkyLep: I know of his history
18:46:06 MilkyLep: But i gotta poke fun here and there
18:46:20 ThickAsThieves: all of his things are cool, but lack sufficient transparency for trust
18:46:38 MilkyLep: exactly
18:47:08 mircea_popescu: well, there's a balance here. he's a kid. kids are stupid by nature, cause that's how people are born : dumb.
18:47:24 mircea_popescu: unlike the other kids (garr, say) this one has more or less walked straight.
18:47:43 mircea_popescu: at least so far.
18:47:44 MilkyLep: He seems very steadfast his decisions to avoid transparency, which is his right. Good ideas though
18:47:49 MilkyLep: time will tell
18:48:25 mircea_popescu: transparency is a complicated affair. everyone claims transparency, nobody delivers.
18:48:51 mircea_popescu: point in case, the laughable bitpay "We lost our domains and a ton of btc" scandal. or, outside of btc world, the entire times lost their twitter account.
18:49:24 MilkyLep: Reactions and responses are what interest me in times like this
18:49:31 mircea_popescu: hell, for that matter the nist is "transparent"
18:49:56 ozbot: BitBet open beta.
18:50:56 pankkake: great move
18:51:05 pankkake: I hope the 85 BTC guy is butthurt!
18:51:59 mircea_popescu: im not taking the 1% out of his ass. i wanted to but the OTHER people involved who are actually nice talked me out of it.
18:52:09 pankkake: oh only for new bets? :(
18:52:13 mircea_popescu: yeah.
18:52:29 pankkake: well, it's fair, you shouldn't change the rules retroactively… but not fun
18:53:17 mircea_popescu: yeah.
18:53:38 mircea_popescu: asicminer at 1.3 ?!
18:54:08 dexX7: you didn't notice?
18:54:14 dexX7: great time actually :)
18:54:31 dexX7: hit 1.0 right after trading restart
18:54:38 mircea_popescu: i wasn't watching it all that close. so basically once the scam is out of the picture, asicminer came back to its actual value
18:54:43 mircea_popescu: and all the rest of the shit is gone.
18:54:48 mircea_popescu: pretty cool in the end, i say.
18:57:46 mircea_popescu: "Bitcoinica liquidator wants to hear from users"
18:57:56 mircea_popescu: whoa what a blast from the past.
19:01:54 lyspooner: that's the past?
19:02:15 lyspooner: where have i been?
19:02:48 pankkake: given your username, you're dead
19:03:40 lyspooner: oh crap you're right
19:04:02 mircea_popescu: lol
19:04:04 lyspooner: do we still have a postal service?
19:04:10 pankkake: hahaha
19:04:19 mircea_popescu: yes, you pay people and they go postal for your amusement.
19:04:55 lyspooner: i came in to see mircea's list of bitcoin's current best scamjobs
19:05:00 ThickAsThieves: *** BTCT.co migration instructions have been posted in each asset page, emailed to all holders, and posted to each official forum thread ***
19:05:03 lyspooner: top 3 pls?
19:05:59 ThickAsThieves: *** To clarify, I am referring to TAT Investments issues only ***
19:09:08 mircea_popescu: despite the postal service accounting for less than 1% of the full-time civilian labor force, 13% of workplace homicides were committed at postal facilities by current or former employees.
19:09:38 pankkake: I wonder if government employees go through some kind of brainwashing
19:09:38 mircea_popescu: lyspooner http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-scam/ http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-another-scam/
19:09:44 mircea_popescu: apparently anatomy is the keyword.
19:10:24 lyspooner: thanks!
19:12:46 lyspooner: mpex option volumes seem to be correlated to the volumes on major exchanges. how did you hedge this? i know you are short on everyone already in general because everyone is dumb, but has that helped?
19:15:17 mircea_popescu: lyspooner the volume is acutally pretty small of late.
19:18:27 lyspooner: mircea_popescu: how much have you spent on marketing in the past 6 months?
19:19:18 mircea_popescu: complex question to answer. is intel marketing ?
19:19:26 mircea_popescu: anyway, as a lower bound, coupla hundred btc.
19:22:13 ThickAsThieves: it's R&D, no?
19:22:17 lyspooner: cool, keep up the good work. hope to see the volumes go up soon.
19:22:37 mircea_popescu: lyspooner seeing the incredible noise dieing mtgox is inducing in the market... i;'d be scared to shit if volumes were up.
19:23:02 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no, i mean intel as in, knowing what everyone is doing. you know, like the btcnsa.
19:23:42 Rannasha: Installed your own version of PRISM everywhere then?
19:25:40 mircea_popescu: nah, i'm a voluntarist.
19:26:02 mircea_popescu: people generally tell me shit because overall nobody wants btc to go to shit.
19:35:00 arij: thanks jurov.. we've been a bit short handed for the past few days. i want on my once-yearly 3 day vacation
19:41:55 mircea_popescu: don't you have to be over 75 years old for that ?
19:42:05 mircea_popescu: lmao wait wait wait A SECOND,
19:42:24 mircea_popescu: the guy that invented the "buy lotto tickets with pmb "dividends"" idea has something to say on a topic ?!
20:40:12 nakowa: i had a good run on just-dice today.... up 15,000BTC total
20:40:44 nakowa: nakowa won 11,000 BTC in 3 days on just-dice.com and is now up over 15,000 BTC
20:41:14 kakobrekla: you should donate those to -assets, for good cause.
20:41:22 saulimus: why are you talking about yourself in 3rd person?
20:42:06 saulimus: yeah, I could use a couple of btc due to my losses in basic-mining
20:42:41 kakobrekla: lol
20:44:17 saulimus: you may laugh, but I bet there is some rich guy just _waiting_ to hear from a guy like me so he can donate!
20:44:34 saulimus: :T
20:44:47 kakobrekla: mining investors only get ripped
20:45:09 kakobrekla: being kelinroot or asics
20:45:24 kakobrekla: or kenil
20:45:30 kakobrekla: dont remember
20:46:01 saulimus: nirnroot
20:46:02 saulimus: :p
20:46:49 pankkake: KENILWORTHnothing
20:47:04 kakobrekla: oh i thought it was kenilroot
20:47:18 kakobrekla: eh
20:47:37 kakobrekla: kenilrot i ment
20:47:42 kakobrekla: root makes little sense
20:48:06 jurov: why not? it's digging for roots
20:49:03 kakobrekla: damn you jurov, you are so selfsmarted.
20:49:16 jurov: no jusst slightly drunk
20:49:32 kakobrekla: gives simmilar effects
20:52:20 jurov: miss notnakowa
20:52:36 notnakowa: do you think nakowa stole the server seed? 15,000 BTC profit
20:53:07 jurov: think its' these dudes with quantum emulator
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20:54:22 bitcoin42: what do you guy make of nakowa winning like that?
20:57:02 ThickAsThieves: nakowa is satoshi, he as a bitcoin backdoor
20:57:06 ThickAsThieves: owned
20:57:06 thestringpuller: jurov yt?
20:57:15 jurov: nope
20:57:21 thestringpuller: :(
20:59:13 pankkake: yay I no longer have ltc!
20:59:30 Rulother: the ltc global price dropped so hard
20:59:35 Rulother: I feel so bad for some of those people
20:59:53 Rulother: or "all of them," I suppose
21:01:02 pankkake: I wonder if burnside dumped his shares before
21:01:11 pankkake: didn't the share price crash a few days before?
21:01:13 DiabloD3: of course he did
21:01:15 DiabloD3: hes that sort of asshole
21:01:18 jcpham: oh yeah i forgot people have lost fortunes today in share prices
21:01:33 phungus: yeah
21:01:39 phungus: I think BitVPS lost 52% today
21:01:42 phungus: :-(
21:01:46 pankkake: they got burned
21:01:47 phungus: and we're one of the profitable listings
21:01:53 phungus: with actual owned assets
21:01:58 jcpham: damn these teenagers and their mickey mouse wall street websites in the US of A
21:02:00 phungus: and no real debt
21:02:03 phungus: and growth
21:02:16 jcpham: list outside of MURICA yo
21:02:32 phungus: we are not sure if we have to give up our shares completely or what
21:02:36 phungus: BTCT really screwed up
21:02:37 jcpham: what is havelock's position on this
21:02:49 jcpham: i can't see the canadian govment really liking bitcoin
21:03:02 pankkake: I sold my bitvps because I had too few left to be worth the hassle
21:03:17 pankkake: maybe I'll go back when it's elsewhere
21:03:46 Apocalyptic: jcpham, actually canada is one of the most btc-friendly countries
21:04:00 pankkake: germany!
21:04:19 jurov: somalia!
21:04:23 jcpham: i was thinking mint chip goes RTM they'll illegalize bitcoin
21:04:37 phungus: they declined to regulat it so far
21:05:00 jcpham: but at least havelock was a real business first, right
21:05:02 pankkake: well, sealand has a datacenter
21:05:08 jcpham: then it was a bitcoin business secondary
21:05:13 phungus: erm
21:05:16 phungus: I think sealand is dead
21:05:18 phungus: isn't it?
21:05:29 phungus: I thought I read that it was invaded and then the project pretty much died
21:05:33 jcpham: i think coinlab bought it
21:05:50 jcpham: coinlab definitely bought sealand
21:05:57 phungus: there is no way to protect that thing
21:05:58 phungus: :-/
21:06:11 phungus: nothing stopping pirates from boarding and taking it all
21:07:00 phungus: well, some folks are getting a serious deal on BITVPS today
21:07:01 phungus: ...
21:07:11 phungus: we were trading for 200% more a few weeks ago
21:07:22 jcpham: yeah i'mma buy it up at the bottom on the last day
21:07:29 jurov: well, labcoin and am were, too
21:07:33 jcpham: i hope you're ok with thursdays as pizza day
21:07:37 jurov: no sweat
21:14:47 MilkyLep: How does BitVPS intend to respond to BTCT's closure regarding shares/exchanges?
21:15:01 phungus: MilkyLep: we are still discussing this
21:15:11 phungus: MilkyLep: we were, obviously, caught by surprise
21:15:24 phungus: we want to do the right thing
21:15:31 phungus: not quite sure what that is yet
21:21:12 bitcoin42: pankkake: i saw you lost a bunch of money on your just-dice investment.... its karma.
21:22:16 bitcoin42: pankkake: how you doing now with -5000 BTC profit???
21:22:57 dexX7: you're mean
21:23:35 arij: that was mean
21:25:05 pankkake: thankfully Bitbet paid me more than what I lost there
21:25:15 pankkake: anyway, I should just ignore all webchatters
21:25:26 bitcoin42: pankkake: i doubt it. enjoy nakowa's dick in your ass tho.
21:25:50 dexX7: lol
21:25:55 MilkyLep: IRC - > When trolls troll trollers.
21:26:04 andrew12: yo dawg
21:26:15 arij: O_o
21:26:34 dexX7: pankkake: how did he do it anyway? just luck with martingale with enough bankroll?
21:26:34 bitcoin42: dont feel bad for pankkake , one of the worst trolls and tools in miles.
21:26:51 pankkake: integrity42 is such a bad troll. you have to do much better to make me rage
21:26:57 andrew12: dexX7: he looks for patterns
21:27:03 andrew12: and doesn't go chasing a loss
21:27:07 dexX7: aha "patterns"
21:27:23 andrew12: yeah. i'm not saying that there are patterns, just saying that's what he does
21:27:28 dexX7: i see
21:28:05 bitcoin42: pankkake: i can photoshop images too. congrats on your loss.
21:28:25 pankkake: bitcoin42: why would I photoshop the fact that I'm a poorfag?
21:28:33 bitcoin42: tho, if i were you, i'd feel a little poor having only 2.5 btc.
21:28:48 pankkake: too late
21:28:51 pankkake: you're bad :(
21:28:54 bitcoin42: because you're trying to reverse reverse troll the reverse troll. but its not working.
21:29:14 pankkake: I pre-reverse trolled you
21:29:29 DiabloD3: oh yeah? I trolled you by not involving myself in this
21:29:43 bitcoin42: i trolled your reverse troll before you ever thought about trolling it...
21:29:45 pankkake: now that's a good one
21:38:55 jcpham: hey you you know what's funny i just math'd out over here
21:39:28 jcpham: the only reason i had a btct.co account was because of glbse
21:40:17 jcpham: the forceful glbse closuse forcefuly created a new account on new asset exchange
21:41:26 kakobrekla: lol jcpham
21:46:05 ThickAsThieves: Ken is making an exchange?
21:46:07 ThickAsThieves: Ha!
21:46:21 the20year1: Who's ken?
21:46:28 kakobrekla: who is ken and isnt cipherchick doing it already
21:46:33 pankkake: kSLAUGTHER
21:46:37 ThickAsThieves: double lol
21:46:43 jcpham: maybe when my btct.co account is closed ken will make me a new account
21:46:47 pankkake: everyone is making an exchange
21:46:55 pankkake: trade your bfl preorders
21:46:56 jcpham: new accounts for everyone!
21:47:06 pankkake: trade your not-mining shares
21:47:21 pankkake: who gets the fees?
21:47:26 kakobrekla: we lack dirty pants btc exchange
21:47:53 jcpham: isn't it convenient the bitcoin foundation is silent on asset exchanges
21:47:56 jurov: and dirty pants futures exchange
21:48:08 kakobrekla: hehe
21:48:10 jcpham: what is this foundation
21:48:22 ThickAsThieves: 17:46] <ThickAsThieves> wait, Ken is making an exchange?
21:48:22 ThickAsThieves: [17:47] <FireLighter92314> apparently he has a backup exchange already set up
21:48:22 ThickAsThieves: [17:47] <FireLighter92314> what a champ
21:48:24 jurov: oh, we're too crazy even for the foundation
21:48:30 ThickAsThieves: [17:48] <ThickAsThieves> have fun
21:49:06 kakobrekla: i think we need to pray and ask luke
21:49:18 kakobrekla: on whats next
21:49:19 jurov: for what?
21:49:22 dexX7: lol
21:49:42 dexX7: he said he'll move all shares to bf
21:49:53 jcpham: ;;google Elizabeth T. Ploshay
21:50:12 kakobrekla: who is moving to buttfunder?
21:50:17 ThickAsThieves: i love that surname, except she pronounces it the a way i don't love
21:50:27 ThickAsThieves: it should be PLOE shay
21:50:27 dexX7: ken
21:50:35 kakobrekla: barbie too?
21:50:48 dexX7: still not sure
21:51:12 ThickAsThieves: barbie is a great name for Kate
21:51:17 ThickAsThieves: Ken & Barbie
21:51:29 dexX7: i see what you did there.. lol
21:51:40 kakobrekla: the ciper barbie?
21:51:44 ThickAsThieves: they can call the exchange The Slaughterhouse 2(.0)
21:52:01 kakobrekla: and their kiddo Garr
21:52:29 Scrat: elizabeth is president now?
21:52:40 Scrat: a decisive win for team jesus
21:52:50 kakobrekla: or do those dolls have kids with names
21:53:22 pankkake: they don't have anything between their legs
21:53:25 pankkake: they can't have kids
21:53:57 ThickAsThieves: wait the board vote was for a new president?
21:54:16 jcpham: nah
21:54:18 kakobrekla: yeah no kids its seems
21:54:20 jcpham: just new seat
21:54:22 ThickAsThieves: or were they just like hey new girl, you get to be the scapegoat!
21:54:33 jcpham: drumroll
21:55:53 pankkake: Midge (1963-1966, 1988- present) This character was Barbie's Best Friend.
21:55:59 pankkake: (s)midge?
21:56:04 kakobrekla: lol
21:56:14 kakobrekla: also wtf with the dates
21:56:17 kakobrekla: is he a zombie now?
21:56:56 dexX7: smidge's fund must have been hit pretty hard.. was already -50 % or so last week vs. when he started
21:57:37 kakobrekla: yeah lets play investments
21:57:43 pankkake: but still better than DCX so all is well, right? :)
21:57:53 kakobrekla: whats dcx
21:58:04 pankkake: a thing created by smidge
21:58:23 kakobrekla: midge you mean
21:58:40 ThickAsThieves: an index of miner crap
21:58:58 pankkake: 1) create meaningless financial index 2) create fund that sucks but outperforms that index 3) profit
21:59:12 kakobrekla: lol
21:59:22 ThickAsThieves: not so sure he'll make it to 3)
21:59:38 pankkake: no management fee?
21:59:50 ThickAsThieves: i suppose
21:59:59 ThickAsThieves: i think his fee is on divs
22:00:04 bitcoin42: not sure how people investing in Bitcoin assets are so stupid... someone actaully invested in a fund that trades assets on btctc? unbelieveable.
22:00:14 dexX7: the index was flawed, because he compared apples to oranges
22:00:27 bitcoin42: 'here, take my money, try to trade with it because i can't do it myself. if you lose my money, oh well!!!'
22:00:45 bitcoin42: the stupidity is mind boggling.... a fool and his money are quickly departed
22:01:02 ThickAsThieves: i dont think buying into a fund is bad in and of itself
22:01:06 kakobrekla: not as quickly as id like
22:01:14 ThickAsThieves: just need a great manager
22:03:44 ThickAsThieves: does one exist is the question...
22:03:56 ThickAsThieves: probly Deprived only
22:03:59 jurov: bitcoin42: on glbse there were several such funds
22:04:08 jurov: so this was only to be expected
22:04:21 jurov: and they invested to each other and to pirate
22:04:45 kakobrekla: and whatever when to eachother went to pirate
22:05:37 bitcoin42: what? so there were funds of funds where each fund invested in another fund??? what a fucking joke
22:05:49 bitcoin42: investors DESERVE to lose their money
22:05:55 kakobrekla: no the last one was a pozni
22:06:03 kakobrekla: > funds of funds where each fund invested in another ponzi
22:06:04 kakobrekla: fixd
22:06:42 pankkake: funds investing into each other, so gay
22:08:22 kakobrekla: well its a common practice really
22:08:51 kakobrekla: out there in the 'real' finance world
22:09:58 kakobrekla: except here they do it for different reasons or whatever
22:10:58 bitcoin42: thats why all the funds of funds got crushed in the financial crisis
22:11:49 kakobrekla: prolly not all of them
22:12:02 jborkl: holy shit you see just-dice
22:12:07 kakobrekla: no
22:12:26 jborkl: last time i looked a few days ago they were up 6300btc - now they are down 5000
22:12:37 jborkl: one guy
22:13:03 kakobrekla: site is down:
22:13:03 kakobrekla: 4,761.81272323
22:13:04 kakobrekla: this?
22:13:22 zoinky: some guy named cake was rolling 300 btc left and right earlier
22:13:29 jborkl: yeah - it was up 6300 and one dude took it down to -5000
22:13:41 jborkl: so he walked with 9300 btc win
22:13:48 jborkl: in 24 hours
22:13:48 Rannasha: 11300
22:13:56 jborkl: oh yeah my bad
22:13:58 Rannasha: :)
22:14:01 kakobrekla: towtoad?
22:14:13 Rannasha: yeah, it was towtoad/nakowa/celeste/whatever-his-name-is
22:23:43 pankkake: he took the cake
22:24:51 jborkl: good one
22:37:10 thestringpuller: panKAAAAKE
22:37:13 thestringpuller: pankkake: lol
22:37:28 thestringpuller: est-ce que tu es francais?
22:37:31 pankkake: oui
22:38:15 thestringpuller: Je puis parler francais avec vous?
22:38:16 thestringpuller: err
22:38:22 thestringpuller: Puis-je*
22:38:29 thestringpuller: :D
22:38:41 pankkake: c'est possible
22:39:21 thestringpuller: Ce qui le rend possible? (je pense)
22:39:39 pankkake: Puis-je est correct, mais "Est-ce que je peux parler avec vous" est plus sympathique
22:39:47 pankkake: ou mieux, "avec *toi*"
22:40:03 pankkake: C'est possible = it's possible, it = talking
22:40:20 pankkake: je m'en vais manger, cependant
22:41:25 thestringpuller: Ah. Je vois!
22:41:31 thestringpuller: Merci! ^_^
22:43:02 thestringpuller: pankkake tu es tres chouette! Je suis desole, je suis boiteux
22:44:41 thestringpuller: meh, pas chouette, je voulais dire "cool" (je pense lol)
22:46:04 pankkake: chouette c'est bien, plus trop à la mode mais ok
22:46:49 pankkake: maladroit c'est mieux que boiteux (qui est physique, maladroit est plus général)
22:47:18 pankkake: tu apprends le français ?
23:09:42 thestringpuller: oui, je suis debutant
23:09:50 thestringpuller: ^- pankkake
23:10:13 pankkake: pas mal pour un débutant
23:16:34 thestringpuller: merci mon ami! :D
23:16:42 thestringpuller: tu es tres cool :D
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