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00:00:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 445 @ 0.0033 = 1.4685 BTC [+]

00:01:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 339 @ 0.0033 = 1.1187 BTC [+]

00:03:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003299 = 0.4949 BTC [-]

00:08:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00088258 = 10.6792 BTC [+]

00:08:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.003299 = 0.2474 BTC [-]

00:10:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.003299 = 0.3299 BTC [-]

00:11:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.003299 = 0.3002 BTC [-]

00:12:42 bitcoinpete: ;;later tell mircea_popescu cluck, cluck! Also, for the sake of curiosity, I'd be more interested in a car registry than a car club per se. Also also, ce nu the omoarà the intàreste. Noroc!

00:12:42 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:13:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.003299 = 0.2111 BTC [-]

00:14:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 206 @ 0.003299 = 0.6796 BTC [-]

00:15:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.0033 = 0.2541 BTC [+]

00:21:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 88 @ 0.0055 = 0.484 BTC

00:21:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11749999 = 0.3525 BTC [+]

00:23:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06279998 = 0.314 BTC [+] {2}

00:23:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.10101 = 0.404 BTC [-]

00:23:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-]

00:24:12 MisterE: http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/19/apple-google-and-other-tech-companies-made-a-secret-pact-to-ke/?ncid=rss_trunhttps://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/automation.png

00:24:14 MisterE: oops

00:24:17 MisterE: wtf

00:24:18 MisterE: https://sslimgs.xkcd.com/comics/automation.png

00:24:43 MisterE: http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/19/apple-google-and-other-tech-companies-made-a-secret-pact-to-ke/?ncid=rss_trun

00:24:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06279999 = 0.314 BTC [+]

00:24:49 MisterE: both good

00:25:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.064 = 0.384 BTC [+] {3}

00:34:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 78 @ 0.11787558 = 9.1943 BTC [+] {7}

00:35:07 MisterE: http://www.eccouncil.org/

00:37:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1438 @ 0.00332491 = 4.7812 BTC [+] {4}

00:43:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.00333 = 0.6027 BTC [+] {2}

00:48:00 benkay: MisterE: re: wages, old news.

00:48:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00333 = 0.2531 BTC [+]

00:51:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.498 BTC [+]

00:57:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 409 @ 0.00333 = 1.362 BTC [+] {2}

00:57:42 the20year2: our volume on HL seems to be pretty good today.....wonder what happened

00:59:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00333 = 1.4985 BTC [+] {2}

01:04:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20950 @ 0.00087798 = 18.3937 BTC [-] {2}

01:04:40 benkay: !t h neobee

01:04:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00301100 / 0.00325251 / 0.00333300 (75607 shares, 245.91259058 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00318364 / 0.00333300 (99117 shares, 315.55323104 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00303986 / 0.00333300 (243755 shares, 740.98060618 BTC)

01:04:46 benkay: something to do with neobee i gather

01:05:14 the20year2: our stock has had good volume too because of it

01:09:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0033 = 0.165 BTC [-]

01:10:34 jayk_:

01:12:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00087676 = 16.0447 BTC [-] {2}

01:12:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.11863 = 1.1863 BTC [+] {2}

01:23:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 365 @ 0.0033 = 1.2045 BTC [-]

01:23:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 40 @ 0.00425249 = 0.1701 BTC [+] {4}

01:24:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4591 @ 0.00087548 = 4.0193 BTC [-]

01:26:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC

01:32:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC

01:44:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20759 @ 0.00087508 = 18.1658 BTC [-]

01:47:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1188 = 0.594 BTC [+]

01:48:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11903991 = 2.3808 BTC [+] {6}

01:49:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00087736 = 12.0198 BTC [+] {2}

01:56:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0033 = 0.1254 BTC [-]

02:05:35 benkay: the20year2: it's not "volume" if you're only selling.

02:06:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.0008829 = 36.5521 BTC [+] {4}

02:09:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.003281 = 0.4429 BTC [-]

02:12:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.1198 = 0.3594 BTC [+]

02:12:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.0033 = 0.198 BTC [+]

02:13:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 325 @ 0.0033 = 1.0725 BTC [+] {2}

02:15:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0033 = 0.1221 BTC [+]

02:17:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00328 = 0.4953 BTC [-]

02:22:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00328617 = 0.2662 BTC [+] {2}

02:23:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0033 = 0.231 BTC [+]

02:32:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00085991 = 0.8599 BTC [+] {5}

02:34:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 21 @ 0.16230094 = 3.4083 BTC [-]

02:35:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 100 @ 0.00499178 = 0.4992 BTC [+] {5}

02:35:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5660 @ 0.00088179 = 4.9909 BTC [-]

02:38:52 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell benkay ah ah i see.

02:38:53 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:41:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1500 @ 0.0033 = 4.95 BTC [+]

02:43:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0033 = 0.1254 BTC [+]

02:44:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.0033 = 0.2244 BTC [+] {2}

02:45:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19409 @ 0.00088179 = 17.1147 BTC [-]

02:49:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1198 = 0.599 BTC [+] {2}

02:50:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1199 = 0.4796 BTC [+]

02:50:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14678 @ 0.00087815 = 12.8895 BTC [-]

02:58:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3000 @ 0.003292 = 9.876 BTC [-]

02:59:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.003292 = 3.292 BTC [-]

02:59:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11974999 BTC [-]

03:02:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11975 = 0.7185 BTC [+]

03:03:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.11975 = 2.874 BTC [+]

03:03:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0652 = 0.1304 BTC [+]

03:11:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3060 @ 0.00329738 = 10.09 BTC [+] {3}

03:12:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0033 = 0.231 BTC [+]

03:14:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30341 @ 0.00087907 = 26.6719 BTC [+]

03:21:57 dexX7: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303426304579401883794330454 + http://pastebin.com/4ZFv0MXb

03:22:57 Duffer1: 2 down

03:23:15 ozbot: Mt. Gox CEO Resigns From Bitcoin Foundation Board - WSJ.com

03:23:58 Duffer1: bitbet who's next?

03:24:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 743 @ 0.00015299 = 0.1137 BTC [-]

03:26:09 bloctoc: note to self, if offered a seat on the board, run.

03:26:19 bloctoc: away

03:26:51 the20year: They had been calling for him to resign

03:27:02 the20year: Who else resigned?

03:27:12 bloctoc: shrem

03:28:23 the20year: http://imgur.com/UrOOiYH

03:28:23 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

03:28:25 the20year: Holy crap

03:29:41 mircea_popescu: bloctoc good point

03:29:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00088342 = 9.9385 BTC [+]

03:29:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.49958799 = 9.9918 BTC [+] {6}

03:29:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9121 @ 0.00016339 = 1.4903 BTC [+] {2}

03:30:17 cazalla: karpeles is a loser and i think he is a booser

03:30:28 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: http://thoughtinfection.com/2014/02/22/we-are-becoming-programmable-society/

03:30:33 bloctoc: can someone explain that wall on bitstamp. I know it's declasse to talk about price action, but the20year just brought it up

03:30:40 mircea_popescu: o look who's here. thestringpuller when did oyu get out

03:30:50 mircea_popescu: bloctoc someone is selling like 8k

03:30:51 thestringpuller: they let me out of jail last week

03:30:56 thestringpuller: it's so weird on the outside

03:31:03 B007: jail?

03:31:05 mircea_popescu: finally can have cock in the other hole ?

03:31:07 thestringpuller: no it was a joke

03:31:13 thestringpuller: i've been locked away at my day job as a slave

03:31:37 B007: what's your day job?

03:31:39 thestringpuller: i just thought mircea_popescu would find that article interesting since he talkeda bout teh concept like a year ago

03:31:44 the20year: It's about 10k worth of BTC , trying to push market down

03:33:00 mircea_popescu: why necessarily meta ? can't people just sell stuff anymore ?

03:35:33 dexX7: confirmed https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=462

03:36:02 mircea_popescu: people harping on twitter about how women are the future of tech

03:36:06 mircea_popescu: mp: "Women are the future of tech like they are the present of governance. When it sucks they come to dominate it."

03:36:15 mircea_popescu: ensuing butthurt.

03:36:47 antephialtic: https://www.bitstamp.net/order_book

03:36:51 antephialtic: look at the asks

03:36:56 mircea_popescu: antephialtic look at the log

03:36:58 thestringpuller: lol bitbet is technically bound by gpg contract via prospectus. says in prospectus the methodology of how payouts/bet resolution occurs etc...

03:37:32 antephialtic: micrea_popescu: whoops

03:38:37 the20year: Where's the bitstamp orderbook?

03:39:26 mircea_popescu: the20year you just added a jpg

03:39:45 Jere_Jones: If I recall correctly, one of mircea_popescu's points about gpg contracts was that they are unenforcable and that they should be agreed to with the knowledge that they are unenforcable.

03:39:47 the20year: It was from /r/bitcoin

03:39:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.0033 = 0.8085 BTC [+] {2}

03:40:25 the20year: Depends on the state i'd guess. Is it enforcable in your state? GPGs are not in mine, but online contracts can be certified

03:40:38 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones quote is better than paraphrase :)

03:40:57 mircea_popescu: you mean the gpg contracts fraudsters article ?

03:41:07 Jere_Jones: Looking for a quote

03:41:25 Jere_Jones: I've been reading a lot of fraudsters so it may take me a minute to find it.

03:43:34 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2012/gpg-contracts/ << you meant that ?

03:43:38 Jere_Jones: Ah. My mistake. Not "unenforcable". "Won't be enforced".

03:43:39 Jere_Jones: http://fraudsters.com/2012/gpg-contracts/

03:43:54 mircea_popescu: aha.

03:44:06 mircea_popescu: see, the shit about me is that i write very subtly. these aren't the same.

03:45:29 Jere_Jones: Yeah. Certainly distinct.

03:45:33 ozbot: GPG contracts pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:45:33 ozbot: GPG contracts pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

03:45:39 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhLGGI4IcAA3bA5.jpg:large << check out lenin taking a ride

03:45:57 thestringpuller: yea fraudsters

03:46:59 thestringpuller: lol won't be enforced. the other guy says "self enforcing" i just found it interesting people are bringing these subjects up years later

03:47:28 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller there's this massive derpage re "we've found this technology which we'll pretend like and demand it does our work for us"

03:47:38 mircea_popescu: there was some good discussion here re why that's nonsense, lemme find it.

03:47:40 thestringpuller: blogger: "omg crytocontracts are new, they'll change things" bitcoin-assets: "Uh we've been using them for a few years now, we know."

03:48:48 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2014#496087

03:48:51 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

03:49:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]

03:49:19 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller pretty much. then "and they aren't for X anyway, they're for Y" then blogger "omfg you do not understand the holy cause of the future!!11"

03:49:44 benkay: a local businessman asked me about Ethereum and its "distributed autonomous corporations" recently. i sent him back a tome the gist of which was "come on man you run a business do you really think these nerds are going to code up an AI that can handle the ambiguity and indeterminacy of what we do? it mighta worked for S.D. and J.D. but shit at the end of the day those were driven just fine by humans!"

03:49:58 benkay: were/are

03:50:34 mircea_popescu: benkay except sd ipod on mpex not on ethereum

03:50:55 benkay: that is precisely my point.

03:51:05 benkay: those were driven just fine by humans.

03:51:29 mircea_popescu: anyway. kids gotta kid.

03:51:44 benkay: no ether-fueled turing computers necessary.

03:53:00 thestringpuller: TURING COMPLETE

03:53:14 benkay: turing my butt

03:53:36 benkay: compute my poop

03:53:44 kakobrekla: /cap req -identify-msg

03:53:49 kakobrekla: eh

03:53:52 mircea_popescu: can i sell tickets to "Touring benkay butt. The international butt tour!" ?

03:54:05 mircea_popescu: oooo

03:54:28 benkay: only if we figure out a way to use my poops as memory

03:54:40 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones you know the merchant of venice, do you ?

03:55:00 Jere_Jones: No

03:55:28 Jere_Jones: Oh. Shakespeare?

03:55:38 nicknode: benkay: ether is useless cause real word is messy, that it?

03:55:47 nicknode: real world, that is

03:55:52 benkay: people don't use the script system in bitcoin not 'cause it's not turing complete but because the needs ethereum satisfies are entirely imaginary.

03:56:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1044 @ 0.00322969 = 3.3718 BTC [-] {3}

03:56:13 benkay: nicknode to within an order of magnitude

03:56:25 benkay: how is your DAC going to handle the problem of vetting pantie suppliers from pakistan, india, china, etc?

03:56:27 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones yes. it's what people were discussing in that log link i gave above. my selection of it, ie http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/

03:56:56 mircea_popescu: and that readlist goes for nicknode too :D

03:59:57 benkay: i wonder what fraction of shit sold for btc is sold to people who just want to spend their bitcoins to fuel the consumer tech self-validation angle

04:00:25 mircea_popescu: considering i've not bought anything for btc in 2013...

04:00:48 benkay: what, humanskin notebooks not sold for btc?

04:00:50 mircea_popescu: i guess i bought some things, actually, not on the usual "here's my shop" sense

04:01:10 Duffer1: mp do you even lambo?

04:01:24 mircea_popescu: nope

04:01:53 mircea_popescu: i don't even drive.

04:02:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [+]

04:03:20 randomcloud: Did somebody ring for me?

04:03:28 dignork: mircea_popescu: gpg-contracts is a beautifull article. Thank you.

04:03:43 randomcloud: Oh BingoBoingo~

04:03:53 mircea_popescu: dignork my pleasure.

04:03:56 mircea_popescu: randomcloud who're you ?

04:04:09 mircea_popescu: o wait, you're the randomcloud chick i remember nao

04:04:19 randomcloud: I got a saved message that I was wanted here for some reason

04:04:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.063 = 0.189 BTC [-]

04:04:27 randomcloud: And hi random famous bitcoin rich person

04:04:32 mircea_popescu: lol

04:04:37 randomcloud: Where's BingoBoingo?

04:04:51 mircea_popescu: either in jail or in a whiskey barrel

04:05:09 KRS-One: haha

04:05:59 randomcloud: So who needed me here and why?

04:06:30 benkay: from whom did this message originate, randomcloud

04:06:33 benkay: ?

04:07:10 randomcloud: A bot in another room

04:07:19 randomcloud: It said someone sent a message 20 hours ago saying I was wanted in -assets

04:07:22 mircea_popescu: you mean gribble ?

04:07:22 randomcloud: *shrug*

04:07:37 Duffer1: interesting

04:07:47 randomcloud: No, not gribble, it's from another room where BingoBoingo and I hang out in; the message says he was the one who sent it

04:07:58 randomcloud: Damn it, now I'm gonna wonder what's going on the whole night. :/

04:07:59 mircea_popescu: well so then he was the one who wanted you

04:08:16 mircea_popescu: check out the logs of here ~20 hours ago,

04:08:17 Jere_Jones: "But lend it rather to thine enemy, who, if he break, thou mayst with better face exact the penalty." lol

04:08:19 mircea_popescu: maybe it becomes obvious

04:09:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11500001 BTC [-]

04:11:23 benkay: hey guys what's the notion of estimating how much of your pot to bet on a thing of known odds and payout called?

04:11:28 benkay: optimal risk something or other?

04:11:53 benkay: risk pricing?

04:12:13 B007: lol

04:12:32 mircea_popescu: benkay http://fraudsters.com/2014/all-you-may-ever-need-to-know-of-financial-planning/ ?

04:12:37 nicknode: kelly betting is one method

04:12:39 mircea_popescu: ie, kelly criterion ?

04:12:44 benkay: 0.01% chance of winning 1B - how ams even calculate

04:12:47 benkay: value of above

04:12:58 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.01 * 10**9

04:12:58 gribble: 10000000

04:13:00 nicknode: that is "EV" estimated value

04:13:20 mircea_popescu: i guess i missed some zeroes but you get the idea.

04:13:27 mike_c: EV = expected value

04:13:28 benkay: so it is a simple product

04:13:42 mircea_popescu: so sez bernoulli.

04:14:00 nicknode: how much to bet then becomes a question of expected value (or rather excess value, or "edge"), variance and account size

04:14:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24294 @ 0.000885 = 21.5002 BTC [+] {2}

04:15:17 mike_c: kelly criterion is simple on a 1:1 payout - you bet your edge. that is if you have a 60% chance of winning on a 1:1 payout you bet 20% of your bankroll.

04:15:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00088629 = 7.6221 BTC [+]

04:15:31 benkay: hah

04:15:36 mike_c: more complicated on variable payouts, but the formulas are not complicated.

04:15:52 benkay: so i just realized the outsized returns of "startups" blind the average street "angel" to kelly criteria evaluation

04:16:18 mike_c: average street angels are not profitable

04:16:28 mircea_popescu: yes and yes.

04:16:37 mircea_popescu: welcome to being smarter than most people club.

04:16:43 benkay: well duh

04:17:23 benkay: plus the mythology and cult worship around google/yahoo/msft/etc totally throws everyone's radars out of whack

04:17:28 benkay: dude!

04:17:32 nicknode: i've always felt im part of that club, though i seem to never recognize the other members though

04:17:40 mircea_popescu: benkay consider this simple point : facebook overpaid by about 99.x% for that whatsapp thing.

04:17:48 benkay: someone tried to compare their shitty startup to google at me the other day

04:17:52 benkay: outta mah FACE

04:17:56 mircea_popescu: this yielded two results : telegraf now making noises about how they added 800k new users in the past 4 hours

04:17:59 mircea_popescu: rather than 1mn a day

04:18:17 mircea_popescu: and armchair generals going "i wonder who's the next to buy one of these. vodafone ? telefonica ?"

04:18:34 benkay: (telegraf?)

04:18:37 mircea_popescu: then i point out that this bs deal put the bar way wya topo high, which means there won't be more sales, as old money has more of a clue

04:18:43 mircea_popescu: (dunno some bs messaging app nobody heard of)

04:18:45 mike_c: i was reading about HP acquisition of autonomy the other day. numbers were something like "acquired for $11b. HP wrote off $8B"

04:18:53 mircea_popescu: and they go like o no, old money loses money through its teeth.

04:18:57 mircea_popescu: because they actually believe this shit.

04:19:11 mircea_popescu: so then i point out that telefonica makes 5bn net on 70bn revenue

04:19:19 mircea_popescu: whereas fb makes 1 bn net on 7 bn revenue

04:19:28 mircea_popescu: and so it's a chipmunk in the discussion.

04:19:40 mircea_popescu: so they retort that telefonica did in fact buy some messaging app

04:19:49 mircea_popescu: and lo and behold, they did indeed. for 70 MILLION

04:19:58 benkay: bahaha

04:20:12 mircea_popescu: and so then they run for the exists.

04:20:12 benkay: scammers scamming scammers

04:20:35 mircea_popescu: but one can't not stop to observe that yo! had you spent five minutes thinking things though on publicly available data,

04:20:42 mircea_popescu: you'd have not been a total derp

04:21:17 mircea_popescu: mike_c there must be some tax angle in all this i'm missing.

04:21:20 benkay: exits as in everything is ludicrously overvalued everyone going to cash this instant?

04:21:45 mike_c: the autonomy deal? accounting fraud that was only found after acquistion

04:21:58 mircea_popescu: benkay no exists as in, and i quote, "you lost me, all I said was WHO will start investing, didn't name an exit price, have a lovely Sunday :) "

04:22:04 dignork: mircea_popescu telegraf app is known, apaprently only in russia

04:22:06 mircea_popescu: not like he has dough to exit anyway.

04:22:27 mircea_popescu: dignork the fact that user numbers are like "views", ie easily and commonly faked is only known here, apparently.

04:22:39 mircea_popescu: mike_c ah i see.

04:23:26 mircea_popescu: anyway. this is, mostly, the bezzle.

04:23:45 dignork: mircea_popescu: i assume it's known since it creates a lot of media noise in russian language. media noise can be inflated as well, it just costs more than "views"

04:24:17 mircea_popescu: right.

04:24:22 mircea_popescu: meanwhile over at the stupid farm :

04:24:23 mircea_popescu: @TheBitcoinWife ? 6h

04:24:23 mircea_popescu: Staunch Bitcoin purists are missing out on the beautiful decentralization of innovation that is manifested in altcoins. Real time evolution!

04:24:30 mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu ? 56m

04:24:30 mircea_popescu: @TheBitcoinWife @Beautyon_ Hon, you really need to drop by #bitcoin-assets. Yer the one missing out. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=bitcoin-assets ?

04:24:35 mircea_popescu: @TheBitcoinWife ? 44s

04:24:35 mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu @Beautyon_ Pls dont call me hon & patronize me. If you paid any attention youd know Im not "missing out." I LIVE for Bitcoin

04:24:41 mircea_popescu: how could you NOT patronize these idiots ?

04:24:52 mircea_popescu: i mean, she thinks it's because she's a woman, but it's merely because she's dumb.

04:26:37 the20year: Some people can't comprehend the fact that they're supid so they want to blame everyone else and call them names

04:27:08 mircea_popescu: kinda why calling people names is so effectual.

04:27:22 mircea_popescu: you call one of these schmucks names it's like a cataclysmic event in their little brain.

04:28:04 the20year: Don't even have to do that 90% of the time

04:28:19 the20year: Just say something that could potentially be taken the wrong way and all hell breaks loose

04:28:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5099 BTC [+]

04:31:13 benkay: oh my god bitcoinwife tweet feed or whatever they call is maybe worse than btctalk?

04:31:16 benkay: no, couldn't be...

04:31:19 benkay: but sheeeeit maybe

04:31:24 mircea_popescu: lol

04:31:27 mircea_popescu: but SHE LIVES FOR IT

04:31:30 Jere_Jones: "No, none that thou hast wit enough to make." lol

04:31:40 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones you see ? YOU SEE ?

04:31:53 benkay: wtf no deep link tweets?

04:31:54 Jere_Jones: I'm getting there

04:32:16 mircea_popescu: so as a bonus exercise for he who was smart enough to find the important spot, write an alternative future or description of what the prayer should hgave been

04:32:44 benkay: http://imgur.com/2TmId25

04:32:44 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

04:33:48 benkay: dumbest in the world award

04:33:56 benkay: so dumb cannot comprehend their own dumbness

04:34:01 benkay: words fail

04:35:35 benkay: THE HORROR http://imgur.com/elHxylT

04:35:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00328 = 0.328 BTC [-]

04:38:33 nubbins`: hi

04:40:30 Duffer1: Mrs.P TheBitcoinWife ‏@TheBitcoinWife 4h

04:40:32 Duffer1: @pbaril @bitcoin_girl IMO #MAX, #QRK & #DOGE differ from each other enough that unless you are day-trading alts, it'd be prudent to hold all

04:40:33 Duffer1: o.o

04:40:49 nubbins`: prudent

04:41:21 mod6: lol

04:43:55 mircea_popescu: lolk

04:44:03 Duffer1: prudent to hold all

04:44:04 Duffer1: the stuple has spoken

04:44:06 Duffer1: poverty is fun

04:44:14 mircea_popescu: werll if not fun at least prudent

04:44:17 mircea_popescu: DONT PATRONIZE HER

04:44:46 mod6: *smirk*

04:45:00 mircea_popescu: this is what the fucktarded activists have reduced the matter to. these are "women in tech"

04:45:01 Duffer1: ah shit i went 6 on the second line

04:45:09 mircea_popescu: hunter coin is adorable and she roots out for ken the most.

04:45:30 mircea_popescu: fucking despicable abuse of women to a degree not the loweliest slave in the most obscure african harem endures.

04:46:15 mircea_popescu: ahaha wait wait. "the proven leaders in crypto" max keiser ?

04:46:33 nubbins`: so there's this thing called the RPM Challenge, where interested parties may give themselves the task of writing and recording an album of music entirely during the month of february

04:46:35 KRS-One: well? who else had a coin named after them?

04:46:50 nubbins`: we decided to make a Dick Surgery album for RPM this year; listening to it now

04:46:56 Duffer1: proven leaders in crypto (7)

04:47:02 Duffer1: my haiku is saved thank you MP

04:47:06 mircea_popescu: nubbins` not bad

04:47:20 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: you're only saying that because you haven't heard it

04:47:21 nubbins`: HEH

04:48:02 mircea_popescu: benkay https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/437811089900711936

04:48:06 mircea_popescu: lmao

04:48:20 nubbins`: it's an aleatoric cacophony

04:48:24 mircea_popescu: what's so hard about making an album in a month. 3 days/song is over the average for pro pop these days.

04:48:30 nubbins`: but it's an excuse to submit a dick surgery to the CBC

04:48:36 nubbins`: and we can't pass that up

04:48:42 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: sure, but pro pop = $$

04:48:48 mircea_popescu: well yeah

04:48:48 nubbins`: the music machine is costly

04:49:01 mircea_popescu: most girlies get about a week in the studio

04:49:10 nubbins`: rpm is largely an amateur/independent affair

04:49:11 mircea_popescu: for their "album"

04:49:24 nubbins`: although there's a shockingly high number of really good albums that come out of it each year

04:49:55 mircea_popescu: i guess some people aren't lazy bums

04:49:59 *: nubbins` nods

04:50:27 mircea_popescu: i had no idea how well my follow list protects me on twitter.

04:50:46 mircea_popescu: there's like fiddy billion of these retards who think they matter in btc because they have no life, and so they "live for bitcoin"

04:52:00 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

04:52:02 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 579.21, Best ask: 579.34, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 579.34, 24 hour volume: 34513.61331147, 24 hour low: 566.22, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 605.031106652

04:53:19 nubbins`: ;;seen thestringpuller

04:53:20 gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour and 19 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> TURING COMPLETE

04:55:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00088779 = 5.9482 BTC [+]

04:55:12 cazalla: gee i hate that bitcoin wife bullshit, if that was my wife, i'd beat her

04:55:27 mircea_popescu: why ?

04:55:54 nubbins`: "the bitcoin wife"

04:55:55 nubbins`: eyeroll

04:57:10 the20year: I like the blog theme

04:57:30 the20year: Maybe we could use that type of theme for rentalstarter...

04:57:39 mircea_popescu: people with any smarts need to be convinced to start blogs. people who already have blogs... dun wanna use the noggin. it's a dilemma.

04:57:40 cazalla: too outspoken, her husband should do the speaking yet he is silent

04:57:56 mircea_popescu: cazalla i would guess the gimmick is that btc/satoshi is the husband

04:58:46 nubbins`: ehh, blogs are a burden

04:58:52 cazalla: i use to blog

04:58:57 nubbins`: used to, yep

04:59:05 cazalla: that is to say i paid indians to write barely legible shit and wrapped it in adsense

04:59:10 nubbins`: heh

04:59:12 cazalla: good times

04:59:31 mircea_popescu: everything worth doing is a burden

04:59:32 the20year: Used to be quite profitable, I made quite a bit of c oin hiring philipinos to blog for companies

04:59:40 nubbins`: sure, that's fair

04:59:41 the20year: and can be outsourced

04:59:45 mircea_popescu: business is a burden, children are a burden, womenz are a burden, fucking eating is a burden

05:00:03 nubbins`: if eating is a burden, you're doing it wrong

05:00:18 cazalla: yeah, i miss the pre panda/penguin days

05:00:19 nubbins`: hahahaha this album is fucked

05:00:19 mircea_popescu: you gotta chew...

05:00:33 kakobrekla: yes.

05:00:35 cazalla: i had so many 4slicetoaster.com websites plastered with their engrish

05:00:36 chetty: what you never got bored of chewing nubbins?

05:00:36 nubbins`: i honestly can't hear most of it when we play

05:00:42 nubbins`: because the drums are so goddamn loud

05:00:49 nubbins`: but this is fucking rich

05:01:14 mircea_popescu: drum cowbell ?

05:01:23 nubbins`: no cowbell, heavy on the cymbals tho

05:01:42 mircea_popescu: same deal.

05:01:49 nubbins`: chetty: sometimes my mouth gets tired, but only when it's a really delicious meal that i feel i need to eat quickly

05:02:11 mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know, just because for w/e reason you don't perceive it as a burden

05:02:13 mircea_popescu: doesn't mean it isn't.

05:02:15 the20year: sell wall on bitstamp is about halfway through

05:02:26 nubbins`: well, everything's a burden to some schmo

05:02:35 mircea_popescu: the20year idiot zonehenge "karpeles quits bf, price plumets"

05:02:52 mircea_popescu: totally infantile these people. and i mean, the bitcoinwife being a clueless bint is one thing

05:02:54 the20year: Seems like price has gone up to me

05:02:56 nubbins`: haha how drunk was i when we recorded this

05:03:09 nubbins`: the dogs got into a fight and we all started barking at them

05:03:40 mod6: its a never-ending parade of idiots commenting on twitter about bitcoin

05:04:59 mircea_popescu: mod6 commenting'd be one thing.

05:05:06 Jere_Jones: If not for http://fraudsters.com/2012/gpg-contracts/, most of http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/ would have been lost on me.

05:05:14 mircea_popescu: the problem is they have the unmitigated audacity to pretend like they know what they're talking about.

05:05:37 mod6: very true.

05:05:42 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones bitcoin has proven leaders you see. max keiser et co :D

05:09:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 700 @ 0.00328406 = 2.2988 BTC [+] {2}

05:11:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.0032 = 0.3232 BTC [-] {2}

05:12:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00088779 = 7.1467 BTC [+]

05:12:49 mircea_popescu: TIL nick szabo thinks peak oil is nonsense.

05:13:22 benkay: does he make coherent arguments on the topic?

05:14:02 benkay: oh the underwater mining routine?

05:14:04 mircea_popescu: sort-of. difficult to evail

05:14:09 mircea_popescu: http://szabo.best.vwh.net/miningthevastydeep.html

05:14:09 ozbot: Mining the Vasty Deep

05:15:04 mircea_popescu: Some perspective, even some purely theoretical perspective, is in order. If we look at the problem at the scale of the solar system, we find that hydrocarbons are remarkably common -- Titan has clouds and lakes of ethane and methane, for example, and there are trillions of tonnes of hydrocarbons, at least, to be found on comets and in the atmospheres and moons of the gas giant planets. What is far more scarce in the so

05:15:04 mircea_popescu: lar system is free oxygen. If there will ever be a "peak" in the inputs to hydrocarbon combustion in the solar system it will be in free oxygen -- which as a natural occurence is extremely rare beyond Earth's atmosphere, and is rather expensive to make artificially.

05:15:06 mircea_popescu: for instance.

05:15:12 mircea_popescu: this is in fact sound, at that scale.

05:16:05 mircea_popescu: and while the "Carbon" preoccupation is laughable on the part of hte "climate scientists", ie the dudes dressed in white coats on tv screens,

05:16:19 mircea_popescu: nevertheless it's a fact that oxygen saturation in atmosphere has been dropping for the past coupla centuries.

05:16:40 mircea_popescu: "fresh air" ain't quite as fresh as it used to be.

05:17:19 benkay: ocean mining is a thing i plan to do when properly capitalized.

05:17:42 mircea_popescu: to the tune of what, 100 trn ?

05:17:48 benkay: har

05:17:53 benkay: no, i think building robots

05:18:14 mircea_popescu: yeah but you'll need a coupla aircraft carriers + a bunch of nuke subs

05:18:20 mircea_popescu: just in case anyone gets uppity.

05:18:43 benkay: for what now?

05:18:55 mircea_popescu: protecting your exploration sites

05:19:00 mircea_popescu: you never played starcraft ?

05:19:26 benkay: o yeah

05:19:31 benkay: i see i see

05:20:05 KRS-One: starcraft ftw

05:20:23 mircea_popescu: ok wise assets of wisdom, i have a stupid question.

05:20:54 mircea_popescu: when i was a kid i loved a game, something like 3max or somesuch. it consisted basicalyl of this, you built robot metallic things, and fought over land an water against enemies.

05:21:04 mircea_popescu: sort of way cooler dune, and it had hotseat multiplayer

05:21:17 mircea_popescu: i could never find it again ;/ anyone know it ?

05:22:06 mircea_popescu: you could pick "races", one was musashi

05:22:10 mircea_popescu: it got bonus to planes iirc

05:22:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 304 @ 0.003289 = 0.9999 BTC [+]

05:23:09 nubbins`: TBF when you keep making people and stop making trees, the level of O2 is obv going to decline ;p

05:23:29 nubbins`: i for one welcome the arrival of intelligent plants

05:23:42 mircea_popescu: iirc algae actually produce more oxygen than trees

05:24:00 mircea_popescu: and in fact there's more of them today than 200 years ago, because we keep dumping all this organic and iron into the ocean

05:25:18 *: nubbins` shakes head

05:25:26 nubbins`: dead algae gobble oxygen

05:25:49 nubbins`: this is why people are worried about massive algal blooms in the ocean

05:25:55 benkay: nautilus minerals has apparently canceled their deep sea mining relationship with whichever tinpot country they were working with

05:26:17 mircea_popescu: benkay those are shares to hold

05:26:22 mircea_popescu: provided they'll actually not renege.

05:26:31 mircea_popescu: currently it's riskier to hold fiat shares than it is to hold bitcoin shares

05:26:41 mircea_popescu: provided you have the sense to identify which shares are worth holding in the first place.

05:27:19 benkay: nautilus shares?

05:27:31 benkay: i'd kill for some. or to work with them.

05:27:55 mircea_popescu: they're a penny stock neh ?

05:28:27 benkay: well, maybe holding stock is too much exposure

05:28:51 benkay: but robots man! i've always had a hardon for robots. i'd like to get back to hacking on robots, and of larger scale too.

05:29:14 benkay: yeah i bet nautilus needed a shitton of capital

05:29:26 benkay: aren't all exploration stocks penny stocks?

05:29:31 benkay: "we're gonna strike gooooold!"

05:29:39 mircea_popescu: nah not really

05:30:07 mircea_popescu: the way the exploration market works is, the governments holding explorable land spend some public money on support services for idiots. like i dunno, geologist support.

05:30:28 mircea_popescu: the idiots, who are people who wish to strike it big, take all the risk and go camp in the wild, whittling their lives away fighing the impossible odds of nature.

05:30:43 mircea_popescu: the smarter and luckier actually get exploration companies together, which have possibly valuable claims.

05:30:54 mircea_popescu: once a claim is actually worth enough, the majors buy them out.

05:31:04 mircea_popescu: pretty much all fields have a few majors in this business.

05:31:39 randomcloud: How do you know all of this crap?

05:31:41 benkay: there is one major difference with nautilus, however.

05:31:44 nubbins`: the process of procuring a claim here is a bit of an odd thing

05:31:51 mircea_popescu: randomcloud im a businessman. i know business. it's what i do.

05:31:54 nubbins`: once a year the canadian government sells titles

05:32:01 nubbins`: first come first serve

05:32:09 randomcloud: Do you do stuff just in bitcoin or outside of it?

05:32:13 nubbins`: the exploration companies pay bums to camp out in lineups for days/weeks

05:32:33 mircea_popescu: randomcloud i used to have a well paid consultancy before bitcoin swallowed me.

05:32:34 the20year: titles?

05:32:43 nubbins`: land titles

05:32:46 mircea_popescu: nubbins` aren't you describing the exact same thing ? :)

05:32:51 *: nubbins` thinks

05:32:52 randomcloud: Oh. That's pretty cool.

05:32:56 nubbins`: yes, i am

05:33:11 mircea_popescu: i kinda tried to give an abstraction, pretty much all countries with explorable land do some variant of it.

05:33:19 nubbins`: nod

05:33:20 mircea_popescu: possibly the russkis being the lulziest

05:33:24 nubbins`: canada's north is the hot spot these days

05:34:00 nubbins`: not just for minerals either, hence all the hand-waving and sabre-rattling around claims to the north pole

05:34:19 mircea_popescu: a war over the np would be cool.

05:34:27 mircea_popescu: "GERMANY INVADES SANTAS HOUSE!"

05:34:30 nubbins`: canada, russia, denmark

05:34:33 benkay: rendered irrelevant by deep sea mining though

05:34:39 mircea_popescu: benkay sort-of.

05:34:40 nubbins`: and the usa i guess, 'cos of alaska

05:34:54 mircea_popescu: benkay amusingly, it's exactly the same thing, because of the huge capital barriers involved.

05:35:20 nubbins`: fun fact, the easternmost point in north america is in denmark

05:35:49 benkay: pick up nautilus for pennies on the dime when they go under, mircea_popescu

05:35:58 benkay: they have sweet machines

05:36:01 mircea_popescu: benkay whjen they go under it'd be too late.

05:36:08 mircea_popescu: shareholders are last in line

05:36:17 mircea_popescu: and moreover, even if they strike it big, repudiation is a major concern.

05:36:31 nubbins`: https://twitter.com/MtGox

05:36:31 ozbot: MtGox.com (MtGox) on Twitter

05:37:11 mircea_popescu: lol they beleeted it all ?

05:37:43 benkay: pardon, mp but repududiation?

05:37:46 benkay: repudiation*

05:37:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 63 @ 0.0030064 = 0.1894 BTC [-] {7}

05:38:35 mircea_popescu: repudiation is the unilateral rejection of a claim. like what companies do on havelock,

05:38:38 mircea_popescu: o you owned shares ? fu.

05:38:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11899999 BTC [+]

05:39:43 nubbins`: heh

05:39:55 benkay: i'll settle for the machines.

05:39:57 nubbins`: wait, those are companies?

05:40:08 nubbins`: (where are those drumsticks...0

05:40:52 mircea_popescu: nubbins` soyouthink some canadian penny stock is so much better ?

05:40:52 mircea_popescu: who is going to send in the army, ww1 style, to protect your claims

05:40:52 mircea_popescu: like the us protected rockefeller's ?

05:41:00 mircea_popescu: the russians even weren't able to protect the claims of their oligarchs in cyprus

05:41:09 mircea_popescu: and cyprus is a shitty island

05:41:43 benkay: whole mining stack gets snatched up and taken over by the government.

05:41:46 mircea_popescu: (obv the russian govt side would very much argue that they did a splendid job, protected it via diplomacy.)

05:41:59 mircea_popescu: benkay canada has a history of stealing corps anyway.

05:42:11 nubbins`: ^

05:42:19 mircea_popescu: under the guise of "regulation" or w/e.

05:42:36 nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_and_Labrador_v._AbitibiBowater_Inc.

05:42:36 ozbot: Newfoundland and Labrador v. AbitibiBowater Inc. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

05:42:42 mircea_popescu: basically, no armored divisions, no fiat investments.

05:42:53 nubbins`: "Background" in particular

05:42:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00328 = 0.1968 BTC [-]

05:43:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.063 = 0.63 BTC [-]

05:44:16 mircea_popescu: The company closed its paper mill in Stephenville, Newfoundland in 2005, and announced in 2008 that it would also close its plant in Grand Falls-Windsor. The Newfoundland and Labrador House of Assembly promptly passed legislation expropriating AbitibiBowater's assets in the province. This included the cancellation of ?water and hydroelectric contracts and agreements? between the province and Abitibi, the cancellati

05:44:16 mircea_popescu: on of ongoing legal proceedings Abitibi had against the province, and the blocking of access to Newfoundland?s courts by Abitibi.

05:44:22 mircea_popescu: compare and contrast this with that idiot judge guy,

05:44:47 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/

05:44:48 ozbot: The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

05:47:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.0008885 = 21.324 BTC [+] {2}

05:48:30 nubbins`: "The government later learned it had accidentally expropriated the former mill property in central Newfoundland — and its environmental liabilities — as well."

05:49:28 nubbins`: i picture a room full of suits furrowing their brows and wondering aloud if they can un-expropriate things

05:49:43 benkay: worse than suits

05:49:45 benkay: bureaucrats

05:49:53 mircea_popescu: when in fact the room should have been full of suits suddenly realising that the guillotine is for them.

05:51:24 nubbins`: if only

05:51:33 benkay: the tanks'll have to change hands first.

05:51:41 nubbins`: the guy in charge at the time was a real hothead

05:52:03 nubbins`: there was some disagreement about federal money and he ordered the canadian flag be taken down from all provincial government buildings

05:52:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1189999 BTC [-]

05:52:07 nubbins`: quite a stir that caused

05:52:21 mircea_popescu: benkay i doubt that'll end up mattering. as it is right now, nobody cares who can ride horses or owns a pair of chaps

05:53:21 benkay: you're saying we're headed clean back to horses?

05:53:46 r3wt: ;;bcauth r3wt

05:53:47 gribble: Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2622c373f57f74c8f9ceb5e6246b25d8274e96de15a86d5dcbbaa7d0

05:54:06 mircea_popescu: benkay im saying that things such as nukes, and tanks, and so on are grossly unimportant anymore.

05:54:40 mircea_popescu: if you read that facebook explanation of the thing in the ukraine, the guy clearly states that the police did not dare intervene in force chiefly becayse "we know where they live and would have killed them off one by one"

05:54:42 benkay: more along the lines of "who can muster a pickup full of men with shotguns"

05:54:52 mircea_popescu: this is true. "we know where you live". whats the tank good for ?

05:55:43 benkay: task for lurking do-gooders: liberate the list of police names and addresses in all of your hometowns

05:56:02 benkay: i betcha US cops use windows systems. shouldn't be hard.

05:56:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1451 @ 0.00088854 = 1.2893 BTC [+]

05:56:15 benkay: just kidding, meta-nsa

05:56:59 *: r3wt kicks in benkay's door

05:57:03 chetty: The holding up a mirror to the police was pretty good

05:57:08 r3wt: "freeze muthafucka!"

05:57:12 nubbins`: chetty, i liked that

05:57:22 mircea_popescu: benkay http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2014#487027

05:57:39 nubbins`: next thing ya know, this: http://www.mukamo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/cryingcop10.jpg

05:58:32 mircea_popescu: oh my game was "M.A.X: Mechanized Assault and Exploration"

05:58:37 mircea_popescu: thank you person.

05:59:33 benkay: makes me want to build a pay-to-play 4x webgame

05:59:53 benkay: grah infinite possibly fun things to do

05:59:59 mircea_popescu: impossibru

06:00:16 nubbins`: set up a money exchange in eulora

06:00:20 nubbins`: done like dinner

06:01:00 benkay: nubbins`: more arcade style "put in some doge! some lite! some bit! get stuff to use!"

06:01:15 asciilifeform: jurov: (perhaps belated) 'duplicate moduli' is exactly what it says on the box.

06:01:49 asciilifeform: jurov: p1q1 = p2q2, for some p2q2

06:02:33 B007: I think you misunderstand the purpose of tanks and nukes, they are for foriegn wars

06:02:36 nubbins`: ^ incidentally this is where "mind your Ps and Qs" came from

06:02:51 nubbins`: B007, you sure about that?

06:02:58 B007: pretty sure, yeah

06:03:31 B007: people have always known where local cops lived

06:03:59 benkay: the suburbanization of north america has really atomized people B007 it's not like the eu at all

06:04:17 benkay: part of what makes this country so horrible

06:04:22 benkay: all the damn space

06:05:17 B007: that doesn't make it horrible

06:05:19 nubbins`: you think you've got it bad down there

06:05:29 r3wt: i could have sworn it was the hipsters, high on their own farts dragging this country down.

06:05:29 mircea_popescu: B007 your notion of foreign is broken tho.

06:05:46 mircea_popescu: it used to mean shomething, 500 years ago. now i'm more likely to fuck a foreign chick than a local one.

06:05:46 B007: perhaps

06:05:52 mircea_popescu: in fact, im not even sure i fucked a romanian this year.

06:05:56 nubbins`: what does foreign even mean

06:06:22 nubbins`: as a canadian, it doesn't mean jack shit to me

06:06:24 mircea_popescu: so in this sense, all military operations are against people.

06:06:28 BitcoinSachs: I was told there was a fair amount of BitcoinWife bashing going on in here.

06:06:29 nubbins`: an icelandic man might feel differently

06:06:34 mircea_popescu: hello BitcoinSachs

06:06:37 mircea_popescu: you married to her ?

06:06:45 BitcoinSachs: Nope, but she is a good friend of mine.

06:06:48 nubbins`: lel

06:06:49 mircea_popescu: good for her.

06:07:00 KRS-One: i can't take it anymore

06:07:01 KRS-One: .bait

06:07:03 ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/9cf78c2e244319fab96d52c4cd5962c4/tumblr_mup8huNbMI1r1zkrlo1_500.jpg

06:07:03 BitcoinSachs: Bunch of cowards sitting behind a IRC chat talking shit on someone.

06:07:11 KRS-One: ahhh

06:07:13 mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs do you know how to read the logs ?

06:07:25 B007: link at the top

06:07:44 mircea_popescu: B007 yes but he comes from an environment where the obvious and common sense aren't either obvious or common.

06:07:52 BitcoinSachs: I've already heard all I need to about the bullshit being said in here.

06:08:02 nubbins`: lel x5

06:08:06 mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs do you know who you're making a fool of yourself in front of ?

06:08:11 nubbins`: you've certainly got a bee in your bonnet

06:08:29 BitcoinSachs: If you know who I am, you also are well aware I don't give a fuck.

06:08:36 B007: ok

06:08:39 nubbins`: well, now that that's established

06:08:42 mircea_popescu: so then what are you doing there ?

06:08:57 BitcoinSachs: Attack one of my friends, and I will show up.

06:09:07 nubbins`: and..... talk to people?

06:09:12 mircea_popescu: i never heard of anyone posessed of this highschooler attitude mattering in any context, fwiw.

06:09:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00088854 = 6.0421 BTC [+]

06:09:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06529 = 0.1959 BTC [+]

06:09:33 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i believe the expression is, "coward sitting behind a IRC chat talking shit on someone."

06:09:36 BitcoinSachs: Says the half-tards smack talking someone not here because she makes them feel inferior.

06:09:48 mircea_popescu: no, actually, the problem is she's retarded.

06:09:57 mircea_popescu: and nobody is smack talking the retarded here.

06:10:03 asciilifeform: what the hell is a bitcoinwife? i'm going back to sleep.

06:10:06 mircea_popescu: we go in quite excruciating detail to document how and why they are retarded.

06:10:08 nubbins`: what's a half-tard?

06:10:14 r3wt: wait so who talked shit to the dudes wife here?

06:10:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nn!

06:10:41 mircea_popescu: he's not married, he's just copumpkin ing all over her.

06:10:44 r3wt: life->end

06:10:56 BitcoinSachs: I feel bad for you guys. It's seriously sad.

06:11:06 *: nubbins` facepalms

06:11:08 mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs so listen, if we apologize do you get laid tonight ?

06:11:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0653 = 0.3265 BTC [+]

06:11:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0032 = 0.2496 BTC [-]

06:11:29 r3wt: lol, what did you say about his wife?

06:11:30 BitcoinSachs: I don't come into IRC's often because it's usually for the depressed middle aged white man who doesn't get any anymore so they sit in a chat talking to each other. Similar to AOL chats back in the day.

06:11:38 BitcoinSachs: Atleast now you morons don't pretend to be little girls.

06:11:39 mircea_popescu: wait wait.

06:11:43 mircea_popescu: you're not even white ?!

06:11:46 mircea_popescu: nigga gtfo out of here.

06:11:54 r3wt: no need for that mircea

06:12:34 benkay: r3wt's a little boy, BitcoinSachs, mind his delicate mind.

06:12:38 mircea_popescu: what, let the guy have fun.

06:12:49 r3wt: lol, a little boy eh

06:13:03 benkay: (nothing personal r3wt it's for teh lulz)

06:13:07 nubbins`: BitcoinSachs from what i can tell, people were lelling at "the bitcoin wife" because she sits around on her ass in front of a computer all day, thinking that what she says matters

06:13:13 mircea_popescu: r3wt how old are you anyway ? i forget.

06:13:15 r3wt: nice to know you think of people in IRC and picture little boys. seems oddly fitting

06:13:18 nubbins`: i'm not sure how that's so different from doing the same thing on IRC

06:13:27 nubbins`: srsly, think about it

06:13:30 mircea_popescu: aahha zing

06:13:43 r3wt: i don't even know what the fuck you are even talking about half the time, none of you

06:13:44 benkay: BitcoinSachs: tell me this isn't retarded http://imgur.com/elHxylT

06:13:46 mircea_popescu: benkay does the darling know about the little boys ?

06:14:18 benkay: oh goodness i don't really know *who* knows about the little boys at this point

06:14:27 mircea_popescu: i suppose BitcoinSachs should meet BingoBoingo

06:14:42 asciilifeform: is there a litecoinwife?

06:14:48 nubbins`: dogecoinwife

06:14:51 BitcoinSachs: whoever it is that keeps messaging me, I deleted it on accident. this is life.

06:14:55 mod6: hobonicklewife

06:14:55 mircea_popescu: i think there's a dogewife doing doges somewhere on 4chan

06:14:59 mircea_popescu: but it's a little... gross.

06:15:06 benkay: man i am into that

06:15:21 benkay: sweet doge action

06:15:26 nubbins`: always kind of thought that referring to yourself as "the ____ wife" was a bit demeaning

06:15:26 r3wt: when white kids pretend to be black on the internet

06:15:42 mircea_popescu: nubbins` "the slutty wife" ?

06:15:43 benkay: BitcoinSachs you gotta learn how to IRC, man.

06:15:48 BitcoinSachs: I don't give a shit if you guys apologize or not. Just think how you would feel if someone turned an IRC into a mass group bashing of you. I doubt many of you would like that.

06:15:49 nubbins`: the anything wife. the hockey wife

06:15:56 BitcoinSachs: I mean, I get off on your hatred.

06:16:04 BitcoinSachs: but I am a sick bastard like that.

06:16:04 nubbins`: you get off on hatred?

06:16:05 mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs you have any idea how many have tried ?

06:16:07 nubbins`: you poor, sad man

06:16:12 benkay: BitcoinSachs: i get people all over my shit all the time

06:16:14 asciilifeform: is the implication of $foowife something like 'married to the sea' ?

06:16:17 benkay: in my actual face, though.

06:16:24 r3wt: @Sacks: i agree. you will get no quarter from these other gentlemen though

06:16:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform who even knows that the proles mean when they use words.

06:16:34 nubbins`: asciilifeform i think the implication is that they like to think of themselves in terms of their marriage

06:16:40 nubbins`: honestly don't get it, not trolling

06:16:44 B007: http://i.imgur.com/K5hrMAb.jpg

06:16:47 mircea_popescu: omfg r3wt this traitor to the holy cause of irc!

06:16:52 nubbins`: "i am first and foremost a person who is married to a man"

06:16:57 mircea_popescu: RUNNING DOG TO THE TWITTERHEADS

06:16:58 r3wt: ^lawl

06:17:11 mircea_popescu: nubbins` can you see "The MP wife" ?

06:17:30 nubbins`: yes, but only because i have a vague understanding of the type of female company you keep

06:17:42 asciilifeform: mpoe-pr ?

06:17:44 mircea_popescu: i've done this plenty of times, "i'm with her". functionally the same thing

06:17:49 r3wt: Reminds me of this cat who used to get on the forums at school and pretend to be a 18 year old filipina chick

06:18:05 mircea_popescu: r3wt and a buncha doods went all crazy "protecting" her ?

06:18:06 nubbins`: i'd probably divorce my wife if she started referring to herself exclusively in terms of me

06:18:25 nubbins`: "yes hello, i'm mrs. jon keefe"

06:18:27 mircea_popescu: nubbins` yeah but you're not a self absorbed asshole quite to the degree we are.

06:18:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.06535 = 1.1763 BTC [+]

06:18:39 asciilifeform: cats with irc habits? now definitely time for me to sleep...

06:18:43 r3wt: yeah i got banned from the forum for mocking he/she

06:18:46 nubbins`: hmm, that's fair

06:18:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a cat is the equiv of a chick

06:19:00 asciilifeform: ah ah

06:19:04 mircea_popescu: r3wt so now you know what's happening here.

06:19:10 BingoBoingo: Goldman definitely doesn't seem to be what it used to be.

06:19:17 r3wt: no hot ass filipina chick gets on a damn sports forum, there's no way in hell

06:19:21 nubbins`: bitcoinman

06:19:23 benkay: hey BingoBoingo we got someone for you to meet

06:19:36 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nono, the relation between this twerp and gs is about the same as the relation between the btcwife and btc.

06:19:45 nubbins`: ^ heh

06:19:48 mircea_popescu: purely based on stalking. like michael moore and important ppl.

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06:19:51 benkay: !b 2

06:19:59 benkay: goddamnit

06:20:00 nubbins`: gotta be quick if you wanna !b

06:20:03 mircea_popescu: benkay you fail son.

06:20:15 benkay: type slower assholes

06:20:16 mircea_popescu: !b quick or !b broken!

06:20:25 nubbins`: error: quick is not an integer

06:20:31 mircea_popescu: fuck whoever just pmd me named assbot i deleted it

06:20:34 mircea_popescu: such is lyf!

06:20:36 nubbins`: hahah

06:20:44 mod6: haha

06:20:44 benkay: ;;later tell BitcoinSachs where'd you go?

06:20:45 gribble: The operation succeeded.

06:20:53 BingoBoingo: Wait, people can't just adopt titles like "The wife of Bitcoin" or "The Sachs of Bitcoin" and it just automagically becomes true?

06:21:01 mircea_popescu: hey guise, i have an idea!

06:21:11 mircea_popescu: let's all make derpnames like nounbitcoin and bitcoinnoun

06:21:23 r3wt: ;;later tell BitcoinSachs yolo

06:21:23 gribble: The operation succeeded.

06:21:24 mircea_popescu: that way the fact we're related to bitcoin will be quite clear to everyone!

06:21:27 BitcoinSachs: I have nothing left to add to this trollbox. You guys all know how pathetic you are. I just wanted to swing by and make sure someone told you. Have a good night.

06:21:33 benkay: coinverb

06:21:43 nubbins`: BitcoinScrotums

06:21:45 r3wt: yolo

06:21:46 mod6: lol

06:21:56 nubbins`: BitcoinSachs: cheers, come back any time

06:22:04 nubbins`: you seem interesting and well-spoken

06:22:15 benkay: if a glacially slow typist.

06:22:18 mircea_popescu: it's so sad the various fiat banks don't hold a trollbox where their top manageemnt could come by

06:22:19 nubbins`: and not like a young man on the verge of tears

06:22:22 BitcoinBordello: Puppies.txt

06:22:22 mircea_popescu: and mock the plebs.

06:22:23 mircea_popescu: tha'

06:22:30 r3wt: you can catch me on the wallstreet journal and time magazine homeboy :D

06:22:32 mircea_popescu: s what i'd have done during occupylolz

06:22:51 nubbins`: eh, occupy was its own trollbox

06:22:59 benkay: it's all the same thing, nubbins`

06:23:12 benkay: the everyone

06:23:12 mircea_popescu: nubbins` yes except the ws top brass didn't participate

06:23:18 benkay: le mob

06:23:20 mircea_popescu: imagine if dimon started mocking the womenz

06:23:31 BingoBoingo: The actual 1% http://guestofaguest.com/new-york/instant-expert/the-original-one-percenter

06:24:22 mircea_popescu: BitcoinSachs so what would we have heard of you for ? do you run a service of any import ? anything ?

06:24:32 nubbins`: "Another reflex is to call a general assembly at the slightest sign of movement, and vote. This is a mistake. The business of voting and deciding a winner, is enough to turn the assembly into a nightmare, into a theater where all the various little pretenders to power confront each other. Here we suffer from the bad example of bourgeois parliaments. An assembly is not a place for decisions but for

06:24:32 nubbins`: palaver, for free speech exercised without a goal. "

06:24:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16738 @ 0.0008896 = 14.8901 BTC [+] {2}

06:24:48 nubbins`: occupy crowd should've listened to the invisible committee ;(

06:25:04 mircea_popescu: nubbins` occupy crowd should have just gone for nudism.

06:25:14 mircea_popescu: pretty much the one way a crowd of nobodies can disrupt modern society.

06:25:37 nubbins`: so, unisex femen for american kids?

06:25:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6762 @ 0.00089009 = 6.0188 BTC [+]

06:26:17 mircea_popescu: yup

06:26:26 mircea_popescu: it would have swollen in numbers greatly

06:26:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0655 = 0.131 BTC [+]

06:26:41 nubbins`: not the only thing that would have swollen

06:26:44 mircea_popescu: indeed.

06:27:17 mircea_popescu: still, if the people trying to get obama reelected had enough sense to only pay a few girls to get it all started, judghing correctly the white knight idiocy of the frustrated male will do the rest

06:27:25 mircea_popescu: they could have also had the sense to only hire gangbang veterans.

06:27:40 mircea_popescu: a woman can take about a thousand cocks a day, if she's any good at it.

06:27:55 nubbins`: sponsored by astroglide

06:28:07 mircea_popescu: definitely.

06:28:29 mircea_popescu: astroglide could have just used crop treatment helicopters to dump gallons of lube on the crowd

06:28:46 mircea_popescu: now THAT would have been a problem for wall street.

06:29:12 mircea_popescu: o look at that, we lost buttcoinsecks.

06:29:13 BingoBoingo: http://oglaf.com/deincarnation/4/

06:29:13 ozbot: Deincarnation

06:29:48 mircea_popescu: win.

06:30:55 nubbins`: but rage against the popular music group tells me that fear is my only god

06:31:09 mircea_popescu: waitwut

06:31:34 mircea_popescu: anyway, for the inquiring minds that wish to know : yesterday i had spinach in bechamel with small shrimps,

06:31:37 nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sqFprD6qIs

06:31:38 ozbot: Vietnow- Rage Against the Machine (Lyrics) - YouTube

06:31:49 mircea_popescu: and today i'm baking a pumpkin and will have it with tenderloin!

06:31:59 nubbins`: i didn't know you baked

06:32:12 mircea_popescu: well im baking in the sense i'm running bitbet.

06:32:22 *: nubbins` nods

06:32:31 nubbins`: i should start a "bitcoin husband" blog

06:32:36 mircea_popescu: bitcoinwife is doing the work

06:32:38 nubbins`: and just yammer about the meats i grind etc

06:32:56 mircea_popescu: husbandry. meats. grinding.

06:33:01 mircea_popescu: this sounds a little porny dontchathink?

06:33:08 nubbins`: my entire life is a euphemism

06:33:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0032 = 0.112 BTC [-] {2}

06:34:38 mircea_popescu: nubbins` but srsly, it's not a bad idea.

06:34:56 mircea_popescu: not that many people make moose sausage, and when i mentioned it to chetty she was like... nom.

06:36:05 cazalla: i should make rabbit sausage

06:36:11 mircea_popescu: check it out, "The rest of this article fill look"

06:36:23 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you know nick szabo has a w/f issue ?

06:37:20 mircea_popescu: this'd be by far the most important property too look for in that entire "textual analysis" story.

06:37:27 cazalla: have rabbits, have sausage add on thingo for the kitchenaid

06:38:43 mircea_popescu: cazalla can't hurt.

06:38:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19012 @ 0.00088843 = 16.8908 BTC [-]

06:38:53 nubbins`: actually, my mother called earlier today, she has two moose roasts at the house for me

06:38:55 chetty: oh somebody said moose sausage ...drool

06:39:10 cazalla: what is moose like? never seen it for sale here in aus

06:39:31 mircea_popescu: moose is a very large cow.

06:39:32 nubbins`: very lean

06:39:39 nubbins`: like beef, bit more stringy/gamey

06:39:40 chetty: venison ++

06:39:41 nubbins`: it's ncie

06:39:42 cazalla: rabbit is lean

06:39:44 nubbins`: *nice

06:40:02 cazalla: i raise these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_white_rabbit

06:40:16 nubbins`: fun

06:40:31 nubbins`: interesting fact, you'd die if all you ate was rabbit

06:40:41 cazalla: not true

06:40:52 cazalla: you eat the brains in addition to the meat if it comes to that

06:41:20 nubbins`: sure, yeah

06:41:23 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsVDb3kqnnI < this is cazalla

06:41:24 ozbot: Woman Chased By Cute Bunny Rabbits - YouTube

06:41:32 nubbins`: implication was only eating the meat

06:41:40 cazalla: top kek

06:41:42 mircea_popescu: eating the brains of any mammal is dangerous

06:41:48 nubbins`: but after a few days you'd be at a point where you're willing to cut the fat off your own body to eat

06:41:52 mircea_popescu: in that we never know wtf prions they got.

06:42:09 mircea_popescu: nubbins` a few days ? i fasted for days. who cares.

06:42:20 nubbins`: muslims

06:42:24 nubbins`: i guess

06:42:25 cazalla: yes i know, which is why i don't eat them but if you only had rabbit to eat, you'd need to eat the brain and organs to survive otherwise rabbit starvation as nubbins referred to

06:42:55 cazalla: but if you have a balanced diet, you can eat as much rabbit as you want

06:43:05 nubbins`: hm, was mentioning this in -otc because luke was there, but you guys might find this interesting as well

06:43:07 cazalla: every 2nd person tells me about this rabbit starvation bs

06:43:20 nubbins`: so i've been wanting to silkscreen, by hand, a book of text for some time now

06:43:26 nubbins`: nice art paper, hand-printed and bound

06:43:48 nubbins`: one of my friends is greek, and really into religious texts

06:43:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0032 = 0.64 BTC [-]

06:44:00 mircea_popescu: cazalla i think i started it in here. but anyway, obviously, eat some fish oil or w/e, it's resolvable.

06:44:17 nubbins`: so we're going to produce a copy of the gospel according to mark, with scriptio continua greek and modern english on opposing pages

06:44:28 cazalla: mircea_popescu: i hear it from others IRL

06:44:47 nubbins`: calling it "the gospel not according to mark" (because it's not according to him), and omitting the resurrection entirely (as it wasn't in the original)

06:44:47 cazalla: as long as you have a source of fat (and I have chickens for the eggs too), it's not an issue to eat lots of rabbit meat

06:44:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 704 @ 0.0032 = 2.2528 BTC [-]

06:45:46 nubbins`: exciting stuff, although nerdy enough that i don't think anyone besides the two of us will be interested

06:45:57 mircea_popescu: cazalla butter'd be better tbh. i almost always cook rabbit in butter.

06:46:23 nubbins`: who knows, maybe we can sell a copy to the university library

06:46:24 mircea_popescu: nubbins` fortunately for you, there exists a large contingent of themarkwifes on twitter, reddit etc

06:46:35 mircea_popescu: seeing how tjhey don't understand what anything is, they may just as well buy it.

06:46:54 *: nubbins` nods

06:47:03 davout: cutie -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483109.0;topicseen

06:47:10 nubbins`: anyway, i was interested to learn that in the original gospel of mark, jesus dies and that's the end of the fucking book

06:47:17 nubbins`: no resurrection, none of that stuff

06:47:23 mircea_popescu: benkay "There are over 400 collectively worth more than $1.5 billion in operation today and their numbers are increasingly rapidly."

06:47:27 mircea_popescu: there, there's a future.

06:47:57 mircea_popescu: lol

06:48:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]

06:48:25 nubbins`: "Seismologists have set up instrumentation for when Tux has a tantrum."

06:48:26 nubbins`: lel, tsk tsk

06:48:39 nubbins`: guy's not even that fat

06:49:01 mircea_popescu: he's bad fat.

06:49:03 midnightmagic: cazalla: Just counter with the fact that virtually any rabbit everywhere that doesn't carry a toxic heavy metal load or weird foreign exotic parasites can be eaten.

06:49:17 mircea_popescu: there's this distinction i make between people who are genuinely fat and people who are visibly fastfood fat.

06:49:19 midnightmagic: "Try that with an elk."

06:49:52 mircea_popescu: midnightmagic rabbits carry human able parasites ?

06:50:24 nubbins`: european elk or north american elk?

06:50:34 nubbins`: i.e. moose or wapiti?

06:51:25 midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: None that I'm specifically aware of, but my farmer friends tell me it's possible.

06:51:25 chetty: rabbits can carry a bacteria thats kinda like plague

06:51:31 mircea_popescu: "The current center of this activity is Namibia, with offshore reserves estimated at more than 1.5 billion carats." << look at that, almost one diamond for each marrigeable girl!

06:51:36 midnightmagic: nubbins`: N.A.

06:51:38 mircea_popescu: now where to find the 10k dollars to pay for all the rings

06:51:48 nubbins`: midnightmagic: i've eaten those

06:51:59 midnightmagic: nubbins`: Hopefully it was cooked well! :-)

06:51:59 mircea_popescu: chetty pest is universal, much like e colli

06:52:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.0031995 = 0.1632 BTC [-]

06:52:10 nubbins`: ground and cooked well-done :D

06:52:47 nubbins`: have also eaten the other type, as we were discussing earlier

06:53:00 nubbins`: moose makes good stew

06:53:06 midnightmagic: nubbins`: Recommend caribou sausage. So.. good..

06:53:20 nubbins`: now caribou, i haven't had

06:53:40 nubbins`: uh, how the fuck is it 3:30am?

06:53:56 nubbins`: i'm going to bed

06:54:00 nubbins`: peace

06:55:08 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 349 @ 0.002 = 0.698 BTC [-]

06:55:12 mircea_popescu: benkay o look at that, nautilus actually focuses on mining extinct black smokers

06:55:15 mircea_popescu: that's a brilliant idea.

06:57:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1300 @ 0.00015004 = 0.1951 BTC [-] {9}

06:57:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1189999 BTC [-]

07:00:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0655 = 0.4585 BTC [+]

07:00:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]

07:01:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.119495 = 0.239 BTC [+] {2}

07:02:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.119999 = 0.24 BTC [+]

07:07:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00089009 = 6.7647 BTC [+] {2}

07:10:54 benkay: jesus christ man

07:11:23 benkay: mircea_popescu i'm not about to just go work for some crazy exploration company

07:11:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 401 @ 0.00321496 = 1.2892 BTC [-] {2}

07:11:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]

07:11:57 benkay: and i at least spend five minutes evaluating markets into which i want to get

07:12:34 benkay: yeah 400 robots under the sea worth a stupid amount of money

07:12:44 benkay: i can defo make some sea robutts

07:14:57 mircea_popescu: lol wut ?

07:15:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00089009 = 10.236 BTC [+]

07:19:45 mircea_popescu: lmao i just owned @bitcoin. and reddit.

07:19:51 mircea_popescu: @Bitcoin ? 48m Mt. Gox @MtGox DELETES everything from their twitter account http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yrqpm/mtgox_deletes_all_tweets_from_their_twitter_feed/

07:19:51 mircea_popescu: How about next time you RT https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/437823752571588608 instead of being an ass. @Bitcoin @MtGox DELETES everything from their twitter account.

07:20:05 mircea_popescu: must suck to exist as a news thing and be constantly hours, days, years late.

07:24:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0605005 = 0.242 BTC [+] {2}

07:24:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.103999 = 0.208 BTC [+]

07:25:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1160009 = 0.464 BTC [-]

07:26:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11999 BTC [+]

07:27:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00460033 = 0.2208 BTC [-] {5}

07:27:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 156 @ 0.0032 = 0.4992 BTC [-] {2}

07:27:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.119997 BTC [+]

07:29:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 21 @ 0.00499999 = 0.105 BTC [+] {2}

07:30:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02092199 = 0.1046 BTC [-] {4}

07:53:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0032 = 0.16 BTC [-] {2}

08:00:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.08389498 = 0.7551 BTC [+] {3}

08:01:33 Mats_cd03: nubbins`: I'd buy a copy

08:04:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00089045 = 6.2332 BTC [+] {2}

08:05:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 900 @ 0.003292 = 2.9628 BTC [+]

08:06:08 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

08:06:09 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 564.72, Best ask: 565.73, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 563.28, 24 hour volume: 38005.11725061, 24 hour low: 551.0, 24 hour high: 646.0, 24 hour vwap: 597.953787271

08:08:07 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

08:08:12 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 167.01, vol: 75617.20805633 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 565.18, vol: 37959.43040405 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 568.6, vol: 18409.36629 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 576.0, vol: 26575.00530557 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 575.0, vol: 303.90218819 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 594.083025, vol: 13228.16500000 | Volume-weighted last average: 394.500944754

08:08:24 mircea_popescu: lawl. just not under 150 yet huh.

08:08:36 BingoBoingo: Well, not under 150 at the moment.

08:11:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00478995 = 0.3592 BTC [+] {10}

08:26:56 Vexual: thats food for thought

08:27:26 Vexual: if you're bulimic

08:27:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00333 = 0.4196 BTC [+]

08:28:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00333 = 3.33 BTC [+]

08:29:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3402 @ 0.00333 = 11.3287 BTC [+]

08:30:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103 BTC [-]

08:33:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17061 @ 0.00088899 = 15.1671 BTC [-] {4}

08:34:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.00021 = 1.05 BTC [+]

08:35:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00088958 = 10.586 BTC [+]

08:36:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00333 = 0.2398 BTC [+]

08:40:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00333 = 0.999 BTC [+]

08:42:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00333 = 0.2298 BTC [+]

08:44:04 Vexual: neobee open?

08:51:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.0730002 = 0.146 BTC [-] {2}

08:52:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.00333287 = 0.7632 BTC [+] {2}

08:53:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2868 @ 0.00333333 = 9.56 BTC [+]

08:58:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.00335631 = 0.2853 BTC [+] {3}

09:00:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00089121 = 18.0916 BTC [+] {3}

09:00:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00349 = 0.3316 BTC [+]

09:02:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.00349 = 1.7625 BTC [+] {2}

09:08:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00349 = 0.2024 BTC [+]

09:09:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3500 @ 0.00349 = 12.215 BTC [+] {2}

09:10:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 316 @ 0.00349 = 1.1028 BTC [+] {2}

09:20:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]

09:20:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]

09:21:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06100005 = 0.183 BTC [-]

09:21:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.102 = 0.306 BTC [-]

09:21:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]

09:25:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10047 @ 0.00089418 = 8.9838 BTC [+] {2}

09:26:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00349 = 0.5235 BTC [+] {2}

09:28:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 163 @ 0.00348899 = 0.5687 BTC [-] {3}

09:29:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003489 = 0.3315 BTC [+] {2}

09:30:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 543 @ 0.003489 = 1.8945 BTC [+]

09:48:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1199988 = 0.6 BTC [+] {3}

09:51:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49100012 BTC [-]

09:52:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2295 @ 0.00349 = 8.0096 BTC [+]

09:53:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00349 = 0.4886 BTC [+]

09:54:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 358 @ 0.00349 = 1.2494 BTC [+] {3}

09:55:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00089122 = 3.654 BTC [-]

09:57:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00349 = 0.1187 BTC [+]

09:58:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 270 @ 0.00499999 = 1.35 BTC [+] {4}

09:59:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 386 @ 0.00349 = 1.3471 BTC [+] {2}

10:12:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 204 @ 0.0008578 = 0.175 BTC [-]

10:12:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00349 = 0.3665 BTC [+]

10:17:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 147 @ 0.00349 = 0.513 BTC [+] {2}

10:25:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49100012 BTC [-]

10:26:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 4000 @ 0.00021 = 0.84 BTC [+]

10:27:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.00069999 = 1.75 BTC [-]

10:28:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 4000 @ 0.00021 = 0.84 BTC [+]

10:29:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 839 @ 0.00349 = 2.9281 BTC [+] {2}

10:30:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1560 @ 0.00350045 = 5.4607 BTC [+] {5}

10:32:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [+]

10:34:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.0035788 = 0.1181 BTC [-] {2}

10:36:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00350003 = 0.7 BTC [-] {2}

10:37:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.00350003 = 1.33 BTC [-] {2}

10:38:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00350005 = 0.35 BTC [+] {2}

10:41:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00369634 = 0.1922 BTC [+] {2}

10:41:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-]

10:42:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00384892 = 0.1001 BTC [+] {2}

10:53:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6501 @ 0.00089497 = 5.8182 BTC [+]

10:54:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.003849 = 0.3272 BTC [+]

10:56:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00385234 = 0.262 BTC [+] {2}

10:56:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7133 @ 0.00089653 = 6.3949 BTC [+] {2}

10:57:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.0038699 = 0.1354 BTC [+] {3}

10:58:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1741 BTC [+] {3}

10:58:17 jurov: morning

10:58:18 jurov: mircea_popescu: when will the mpoe bot go back?

10:58:27 jurov: *come back

10:58:29 jurov: lol

10:59:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.00386999 = 0.1896 BTC [+] {3}

11:02:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 313 @ 0.00386999 = 1.2113 BTC [+] {2}

11:03:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 142 @ 0.00372943 = 0.5296 BTC [-] {6}

11:04:25 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/bitcoin-was-written-by-the-retarded-part-ii/

11:07:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.062 = 0.62 BTC [+]

11:08:04 jurov: oh that. iconsidered writing about, too..but everyone accepts the accounts dysfunctionality as completely normal thing

11:09:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1815 @ 0.00386999 = 7.024 BTC [+] {4}

11:10:15 jurov: should write about such things anyway

11:10:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00387 = 0.387 BTC [+]

11:13:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-]

11:17:47 ozbot: Bitcoin was written by the retarded, part II pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

11:18:40 Duffer1: .d

11:20:38 ozbot: 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 731 blocks | Estimated Change: 19.9186% in 4d 1h 29m 47s

11:21:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49010002 = 0.9802 BTC [-] {2}

11:22:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49 BTC [-]

11:22:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00387 = 1.3545 BTC [+]

11:26:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00387 = 0.8901 BTC [+]

11:28:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.11999995 = 2.28 BTC [+] {2}

11:28:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6160 @ 0.00016388 = 1.0095 BTC [+] {7}

11:29:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00387 = 0.1935 BTC [+]

11:31:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 148 @ 0.00460028 = 0.6808 BTC [-] {5}

11:32:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4033 @ 0.00387 = 15.6077 BTC [+] {4}

11:33:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 659 @ 0.00387 = 2.5503 BTC [+] {4}

11:34:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]

11:34:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1420 @ 0.00387 = 5.4954 BTC [+] {3}

11:37:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02060001 = 0.412 BTC [-] {5}

11:39:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 23 @ 0.02022221 = 0.4651 BTC [-] {12}

11:39:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 242 @ 0.00389 = 0.9414 BTC [+] {3}

11:43:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00386999 = 0.3909 BTC [-] {2}

11:47:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5473 @ 0.0008979 = 4.9142 BTC [+] {2}

11:48:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [+]

11:50:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 590 @ 0.0038 = 2.242 BTC [-]

11:55:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.00379 = 0.9892 BTC [-] {2}

11:56:11 jurov: http://imgur.com/a/uL6Lw neobee, the savior of poor cypriots

11:56:11 ozbot: Neo Building - Imgur

11:56:48 jurov: ThickAsThieves: i can, like, really go there and exchange bitcoins or do anything meaningful?

11:57:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.12 = 1.92 BTC [+]

11:59:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00379 = 0.5685 BTC [-]

12:00:03 mircea_popescu: jurov i grilled him yest.

12:00:28 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#523512

12:00:29 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

12:06:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00379046 = 0.2426 BTC [+] {2}

12:08:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.0038 = 0.3344 BTC [+]

12:10:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0038 = 1.14 BTC [+] {3}

12:11:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00377 = 1.0104 BTC [-]

12:12:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 276 @ 0.0038 = 1.0488 BTC [+] {2}

12:12:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.12 = 1.32 BTC [+]

12:14:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.00379766 = 0.7709 BTC [-] {3}

12:15:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.003795 = 0.3605 BTC [-]

12:25:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.1197693 = 1.557 BTC [-] {2}

12:26:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11631101 = 0.3489 BTC [-]

12:26:53 cazalla: he is NEO, you are like the buzzing of flies to him

12:29:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16167 @ 0.00089656 = 14.4947 BTC [-]

12:29:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.003795 = 0.2694 BTC [-]

12:31:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 225 @ 0.0038 = 0.855 BTC [+] {2}

12:32:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.0038589 = 0.3936 BTC [+] {2}

12:33:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 528 @ 0.00383988 = 2.0275 BTC [-] {4}

12:35:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00385 = 0.1656 BTC [-] {2}

12:35:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.12 = 0.6 BTC [+]

12:37:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0038576 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2}

12:40:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.063 = 0.126 BTC [+]

12:40:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10101 = 0.202 BTC [-]

12:40:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-]

12:41:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.12 = 3 BTC [+]

12:43:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.00089305 = 21.969 BTC [-] {5}

12:45:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.003859 = 0.3203 BTC [+] {2}

12:51:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.48203 = 4.8203 BTC [-] {2}

12:53:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00380111 = 1.0187 BTC [-] {2}

12:53:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12 = 0.24 BTC [+]

12:56:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 259 @ 0.00386 = 0.9997 BTC [+]

12:58:00 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/HistOpinion/status/437927458810368000/photo/1/large

12:58:00 ozbot: Twitter / HistOpinion: US Apr '38: Do you believe, ...

12:58:48 mircea_popescu: what do executives know

12:58:51 mircea_popescu: they're in on it!

12:58:52 mircea_popescu: etc

12:59:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00386 = 0.193 BTC [+]

13:03:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 244 @ 0.00385879 = 0.9415 BTC [+] {2}

13:04:24 ThickAsThieves: what's an economic life?

13:05:19 ThickAsThieves: and how is "partly" an acceptible answer to a question that contains "mostly"

13:06:22 ThickAsThieves: maybe shoulda just been Yes, Probably, Possibly, No

13:07:02 ThickAsThieves: also, why truck drivers?

13:07:37 ThickAsThieves: they are an awkward representative, being that they are blue collar middle/upper-middle class

13:08:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.003865 = 0.1971 BTC [+] {3}

13:09:05 random_cat: ro invest: ponzi of the day?

13:09:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 113 @ 0.00385535 = 0.4357 BTC [-] {2}

13:09:57 ThickAsThieves: if you have to ask, then you already know the answer :)

13:10:48 ThickAsThieves: "If you claim that for some reason that it would be better for people to invest in stocks or something else on mpex then doing carefully selection on what investments and where on other plattfors or avoid investing in anything at all if they don't have the correct knoledge. Then you may kindly explain why and how it would be better for the avg investors as im pretty sure most of them

13:10:48 ThickAsThieves: wouldent even have 30 btc so how do you even think they would even be in the target group for your stockexchange, is just redicules."

13:10:54 ThickAsThieves: so much ouch

13:11:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 197 @ 0.003865 = 0.7614 BTC [+]

13:12:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 181 @ 0.003865 = 0.6996 BTC [+]

13:14:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 353 @ 0.003865 = 1.3643 BTC [+] {3}

13:16:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 260 @ 0.00385 = 1.001 BTC [-]

13:17:22 ThickAsThieves: "Neo Bee, I hope you are the AOL of Bitcoin, and not the next iteration of Mtgox." lol

13:19:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00386499 = 0.2203 BTC [+] {2}

13:20:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+]

13:22:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11533 @ 0.00089556 = 10.3285 BTC [+] {3}

13:23:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6267 @ 0.00089798 = 5.6276 BTC [+]

13:23:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00386498 = 0.2242 BTC [-]

13:24:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.00386499 = 0.2937 BTC [+] {2}

13:26:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.482 BTC [-]

13:26:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 194 @ 0.00386397 = 0.7496 BTC [-]

13:27:21 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i have no idea

13:27:45 mircea_popescu: random_cat what's that even ?

13:29:02 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i'd guess they had easier access to a bunch of truck drivers ?

13:29:10 mircea_popescu: anyway, where's the quote from ? forum ?

13:30:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.0055 = 0.231 BTC

13:37:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00382 = 3.82 BTC [-] {2}

13:39:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00386393 = 0.1005 BTC [+] {2}

13:40:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 261 @ 0.00382 = 0.997 BTC [-]

13:42:03 random_cat: mircea: apparently the operator is looking for "investors" and posted a bitcointalk thread which got picked up by blockchain.info... see https://ro-invest.com/

13:42:27 random_cat: oic, the bitcointalk thread is actually a link with a referrer code

13:42:40 random_cat: curiouser and curiouser

13:43:28 dexX7: wow 13 % daily, must be legit

13:43:43 random_cat: hell, perhaps it is merely a "send me your coin" site

13:44:12 ThickAsThieves: perhaps?

13:44:28 *: random_cat shrugs

13:44:33 random_cat: i was generously calling it a ponzi

13:46:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 129 @ 0.00386398 = 0.4985 BTC [+]

13:46:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.12 = 3.12 BTC [+] {3}

13:47:12 mircea_popescu: random_cat probably ciuciu resurected.

13:48:27 mircea_popescu: so firefox is making a 25 dolla phone, facebook is hoping to spin the watsap disaster into a phone...

13:48:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1070 @ 0.00380079 = 4.0668 BTC [-] {4}

13:49:06 mircea_popescu: what's with people and this obsession for phones

13:51:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1205 = 0.6025 BTC [+]

13:52:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.12673333 = 2.6614 BTC [+] {3}

13:53:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.00386398 = 1.1901 BTC [+]

13:54:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.003881 = 0.1941 BTC [+]

13:54:25 mircea_popescu: incredible how the bitcoin foundation rats nest sticks together to the very end.

13:54:44 mircea_popescu: "This is actually good news. I applaud Mark and the MtGox team for making the right decision as I had to do the same. Speaking very lengthy to Mark and the team over the weekend, I see good news on the horizon for people who have funds stuck in MtGox (I also have funds in MtGox stuck)" < shrem

13:55:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1055 @ 0.003885 = 4.0987 BTC [+] {3}

13:55:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.16230094 = 0.9738 BTC [-]

13:55:23 Duffer1: farewell fellatio

13:55:33 Duffer1: i hate politics

13:56:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.0008968 = 16.0976 BTC [-]

13:56:46 mircea_popescu: "Colorado Girl Scouts Not Allowed To Sell Cookies Outside Pot Shops"

13:56:47 mircea_popescu: win.

13:57:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.003885 = 0.272 BTC [+]

13:58:05 Duffer1: they had to come up with some local ordinance since a couple of them got clever and sold out - can't allow little girls hanging around stoners to become popular

13:59:11 mircea_popescu: im guessing the only way to safeguard the nation is banning girlscout cookie sales, girls, scouts and cookies.

13:59:30 Duffer1: sounds reasonable

13:59:45 mircea_popescu: so conn just imploded

14:00:01 jurov: girl schouts must be protected from potheads

14:00:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00389 = 0.1945 BTC [+] {2}

14:00:11 jurov: cuz national security or whatever

14:00:11 mircea_popescu: apparently selling couches on credit to people who have horrible credit ratings in the hopes they'll find change in the very couches to pay for the couches didn't work out

14:00:21 mircea_popescu: seems you need rich friends to be able to use couches that way.

14:01:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 440 @ 0.00389 = 1.7116 BTC [+] {2}

14:04:15 ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> what's with people and this obsession for phones /// cuz proles don't buy desktops anymore

14:05:00 mircea_popescu: heresy.

14:05:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.16230094 = 1.623 BTC [-]

14:05:55 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/niubi/status/437948979872284672 epic shit.

14:06:10 mircea_popescu: "What do u call selfie taken by someone dedicated to overcoming selfhood ?"

14:09:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.1289995 = 0.258 BTC [+] {2}

14:09:31 ThickAsThieves: i guess reddit discovered Havelock last night...

14:09:55 mircea_popescu: "As we were letting you know back on the 15th of May 2013, two models filled lawsuits against Totem Entertainment and Totem Front Office alleging we were using their images without their authorization.

14:09:56 mircea_popescu: Despite they both signed a contract and have been paid, we've been ordered by a French judge to cease using their images and to terminate any licencing of them. We appealed from that decision but meanwhile we have to comply with the judge's order."

14:09:58 mircea_popescu: fucking french judges.

14:11:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 31 @ 0.00339999 = 0.1054 BTC [+] {2}

14:11:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.00084029 = 0.4201 BTC [-] {3}

14:12:16 ThickAsThieves: "Gmail adds unsubscribe button to rid your inbox of promotions" nice feature

14:12:17 mircea_popescu: http://webmasters.totemcash.com/top100.php << meanwhile check out that sadness. one guy laundering money and $150 a month to make the top 100.

14:13:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.00388 = 0.485 BTC [-] {3}

14:13:55 ThickAsThieves: what's a virtuagirl?

14:14:11 mircea_popescu: and from the anals of stupid : chick that identifies as "Digital @NBC Owned Television Stations. I tweet media, tech & startups. California transplant, opinions are mine." wants to know if this pic is legit : "So.. I got this WhatsApp message from one of my contacts this morning, real thing? pic.twitter.com/mLAMw9hmUY "

14:14:18 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves prolly some webcam stuff.

14:14:33 mircea_popescu: most porn today is webcams because how the fuck are you going to get paid for a jpeg

14:14:35 ThickAsThieves: seems like a desktop widget of a nudie gif

14:14:40 ThickAsThieves: old school stuff

14:15:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00388 = 0.1086 BTC [-] {2}

14:15:22 mircea_popescu: wow they charge for that ?

14:15:23 the20year: I heard that Bill gates is buying AOL out and if you have AOL and windows they will pay you $5,000 as long as you forward the message

14:15:53 mircea_popescu: the20year you're now ready to work for NBC as a social media, tech and start-ups specialist.

14:16:15 mircea_popescu: WomenzInTeach!

14:16:51 ThickAsThieves: zuckerberg keynote today maybe he can confirm

14:16:52 ThickAsThieves: lol

14:17:12 mircea_popescu: she should defo ask him.

14:17:32 mircea_popescu: "Mr Mike like totally great stuff can you tell me like is it true about the forwarding ?"

14:18:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.12916363 = 1.4208 BTC [+] {2}

14:19:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12999 = 0.52 BTC [+]

14:19:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.08389499 = 0.3356 BTC [+] {2}

14:20:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00388 = 0.776 BTC [-]

14:21:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 218 @ 0.00388322 = 0.8465 BTC [+] {2}

14:31:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1322 @ 0.00016389 = 0.2167 BTC [+]

14:32:07 Apocalyptic: "<epscy> maybe the foundation should run an insurance scheme, if they run the satoshi client and follow best practices the foundation would pay out for any losses due to bugs in the software"

14:32:09 Apocalyptic: eps

14:32:17 Apocalyptic: err... derp of the day ?

14:32:40 BingoBoingo: They day is young, bigger derps are inevitable

14:32:46 ThickAsThieves: ^

14:32:56 mircea_popescu: ahahaha best idea ever.

14:33:09 mircea_popescu: no srsly, they should. make usagi an officer.

14:33:17 Diablo-D3: wat

14:33:19 Apocalyptic: "<epscy> i'm only half joking" // gets epic

14:33:24 Diablo-D3: whatever happened to that guy anyhow

14:33:39 Diablo-D3: because he seems to have finally left when he realized that he couldnt scam money out of DMC

14:34:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1822 @ 0.00016389 = 0.2986 BTC [+]

14:34:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.003888 = 0.5832 BTC [+] {2}

14:35:34 mircea_popescu: i think he finally left once he realised he couldn't shove his guitar or somesuch

14:35:48 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/437958867012444161

14:35:48 ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @MichaelKitces @businessinsider ...

14:35:54 mircea_popescu: curious if famous anal-ist takes the challenge.

14:37:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 319 @ 0.003888 = 1.2403 BTC [+] {3}

14:37:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.12987362 = 2.078 BTC [-] {5}

14:37:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.16230094 = 8.115 BTC [-]

14:38:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00089761 = 22.9339 BTC [+] {4}

14:38:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 986 @ 0.00389 = 3.8355 BTC [+]

14:39:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1030 @ 0.0039 = 4.017 BTC [+] {2}

14:40:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.12999995 = 2.73 BTC [+] {3}

14:41:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.0039 = 3.9 BTC [+]

14:42:46 mircea_popescu: ;;tslbn

14:42:46 gribble: Error: "tslbn" is not a valid command.

14:42:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1071 @ 0.00382 = 4.0912 BTC [-] {2}

14:42:51 mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

14:42:51 gribble: Time since last block: 16 minutes and 49 seconds

14:45:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 625 @ 0.00016389 = 0.1024 BTC [+]

14:46:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.103999 BTC [+]

14:47:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00389 = 0.5368 BTC [-]

14:49:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00389 = 0.3968 BTC [-] {2}

14:49:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 44 @ 0.06101534 = 2.6847 BTC [-] {6}

14:50:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00388931 = 0.1128 BTC [-] {2}

14:50:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.06035 = 0.3621 BTC [-] {3}

14:56:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 248 @ 0.00388 = 0.9622 BTC [-]

14:59:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.104 = 0.312 BTC [+]

15:01:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 253 @ 0.00382 = 0.9665 BTC [-]

15:02:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00389 = 0.5835 BTC [+]

15:03:21 davout: ;;later tell benkay interdasted in some delicious janos starker?

15:03:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

15:04:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.124 BTC [-]

15:08:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12200001 = 0.488 BTC [-]

15:09:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00388 = 0.388 BTC [-]

15:10:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.122 = 0.732 BTC [-]

15:10:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 130 @ 0.00388 = 0.5044 BTC [-] {2}

15:11:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0039 = 0.195 BTC [+]

15:13:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.0038999 = 0.2925 BTC [-]

15:14:00 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482989.msg5337539#msg5337539

15:14:02 ozbot: [Cryptostocks]Coinex.io they just removed all traces about there offer at CS

15:14:07 mircea_popescu: check out ThickAsThieves owning the field...

15:14:34 ThickAsThieves: had an mp(oe-pr) up my butt i guess

15:16:28 mircea_popescu: particularly lulzy set of idiots there anyhow

15:17:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00381428 = 1.335 BTC [-] {2}

15:17:34 ThickAsThieves: i love how thy then tries to say english is not his first language

15:17:53 ThickAsThieves: you don't learn a second language and spell that terribly

15:18:15 ThickAsThieves: "there's nothing wrong with my education you can't get much higher actually"

15:18:28 ThickAsThieves: "newcummers"

15:18:30 ThickAsThieves: lol

15:18:52 ThickAsThieves: "Paying 30 btc to get access to trading on mpex would be a huge misstake for 99.99% of all people, especially as some got access to that for free in the beginning."

15:18:58 ThickAsThieves: yet he uses bitcoin

15:20:49 mircea_popescu: "my brain doesn't work because english is not my first language"

15:20:50 mircea_popescu: seems legit.

15:20:52 jurov: "These are values uplifted by bandits, not brethren." ooooh so romantic "DDD

15:21:34 mircea_popescu: he really got something in there.

15:22:01 ThickAsThieves: bandit sounded better than burglar :)

15:22:47 mircea_popescu: i can't discern whether shrem defending mtgox on twitter is worse for shrem or worse for mtgox.

15:23:21 ThickAsThieves: tough one

15:23:23 jurov: for both, that's synergy

15:23:25 mircea_popescu: what's the worse situation, for a fraudster to associate with a drug dealer or vice versa ?

15:23:56 ThickAsThieves: when will they catch Ver on something?

15:24:14 mircea_popescu: (i get that neither are very good at their respective thing, but still, discussing in principle)

15:24:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 680 @ 0.00389678 = 2.6498 BTC [+] {4}

15:25:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.12899998 = 1.032 BTC [+]

15:25:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.0039 = 0.2457 BTC [+]

15:26:00 mircea_popescu: sooo... egypt cabinet resigns, new military dictatorship brewing ?

15:26:11 mircea_popescu: country comes back to what it was, only with 30 years younger mubarak

15:26:32 mircea_popescu: and i guess no ak47-ing of the anwar sadat this time

15:27:22 Apocalyptic: <ThickAsThieves> when will they catch Ver on something? // I'm waiting for Vessenes

15:27:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.0039 = 0.2769 BTC [+] {3}

15:28:22 ThickAsThieves: vessenes seems to have proven slipperyness

15:28:31 mircea_popescu: the teflon don of bitcoin.

15:28:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.0039 = 0.975 BTC [+]

15:29:43 mircea_popescu: "I've said it before, but if Barack Obama had been president instead of Ronald Reagan, I'd still be a Soviet Citizen." ~Kasparov

15:30:33 mircea_popescu: it's kind of funny that US govt official policy back in the 80s, such as "government is bad generally and big government worse" etc is today regarded as fringe opinion.

15:31:08 asciilifeform: 'gorbama.'

15:31:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1280 @ 0.0039 = 4.992 BTC [+] {3}

15:32:02 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform at least gorby had his fun moments.

15:32:11 mircea_popescu: was it him or yeltsin that actually fired at the duma ?

15:32:16 mircea_popescu: it was yeltsin wasn't it.

15:32:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 94 @ 0.0039 = 0.3666 BTC [+] {4}

15:32:45 BingoBoingo: Sounds like a Yeltsin thing to do.

15:33:10 mircea_popescu: got plastered one night, ordered the artillery out the next morning

15:33:13 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnz9lOXQP3w

15:33:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.004879 = 0.1366 BTC [+]

15:37:49 mircea_popescu: a nice

15:37:49 mircea_popescu: lol i like that white lada there

15:38:29 mircea_popescu: one thing he did well was the choice of successor.

15:38:29 mircea_popescu: putin is probably the strongest leader russia had since roughly speaking ivan

15:38:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 214 @ 0.00394 = 0.8432 BTC [+] {2}

15:38:55 asciilifeform: 'Му sister, do you still recall, как Ельцин бился мордой в пол…' (sf writer V. Pelevin)

15:39:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 286 @ 0.00394 = 1.1268 BTC [+] {4}

15:39:54 mircea_popescu: lol

15:40:45 KRS-One: http://www.kirainet.com/english/women-vending-machine/

15:40:56 KRS-One: Can't wait for the U.S. to get these

15:41:10 ozbot: » Women vending machine Kirainet.com – A geek in Japan

15:41:12 KRS-One: Pretty good deal for $1 USD

15:41:22 KRS-One: .bait

15:41:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.11663173 = 0.4665 BTC [-] {2}

15:41:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00394375 = 0.4614 BTC [+] {4}

15:41:48 ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbal5vNj4T1qznrwro1_500.jpg

15:42:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, if you're at all curious, by very far the best contemporary employ of the romanian equivalent of mat is this bunch of kids making a cartoon.

15:42:19 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iCLCJifhfQ

15:42:19 ozbot: RObotzi.S01.Ep.1.Vin - YouTube

15:42:46 mircea_popescu: it is utterly untranslatable, but it is also the only cultural product of contemporary romania that i'd bother mention.

15:42:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.003948 = 0.2211 BTC [+] {2}

15:43:41 asciilifeform: neato

15:43:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0039425 = 0.1183 BTC [-] {2}

15:43:53 Duffer1: what does the red one say at 1:05?

15:44:12 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's insanely hard to. most romanian native speakers could not write down the average episode even if they were given unlimited replays.

15:44:44 mircea_popescu: you need a fucking postdoc to even understand the whole thing.

15:45:15 mircea_popescu: an indicative example : loud music, the blue guy asks "cine-i la usa" (who's at the door)

15:45:16 Duffer1: i'll stick to rick & morty

15:45:32 mircea_popescu: the other guy pretends to mishear "sa te ghetzalesc in gusa ?" which'd be... you want me to cum down your throat ?

15:45:56 mircea_popescu: ghetz is a translation of hungarian word for cum, transformed into a verb by the romanian method of verbing (utterly foreign to hungarian)

15:46:03 mircea_popescu: and gusa means gullet.

15:46:25 mircea_popescu: s/is a translation/a notation/

15:46:26 asciilifeform: not entirely related, for those concerned with obfuscations, homomorphic trickery, etc. : http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/02/cryptographic-obfuscation-and.html

15:47:33 Duffer1: i wish i could understand ep11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4itGkB168Q

15:47:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.021 = 0.126 BTC [+]

15:47:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.003948 = 0.1579 BTC [+]

15:48:17 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 lemme write it down for you then.

15:48:39 Duffer1: thanks ^>^

15:48:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00487999 = 0.1269 BTC [+]

15:50:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 494 @ 0.00044494 = 0.2198 BTC [+] {2}

15:51:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 556 @ 0.00045 = 0.2502 BTC [+] {3}

15:52:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.13587993 BTC [+]

15:52:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 476 @ 0.00392936 = 1.8704 BTC [-] {4}

15:52:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02349997 = 0.1645 BTC [+] {2}

15:54:58 Duffer1: https://crypto-trade.com/maintenance

15:55:00 ozbot: Crypto-Trade | Bitcoin Exchange, Namecoin Exchange, Litecoin Exchange, Primecoin Exchange, BTC Excha

15:55:22 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 http://dpaste.com/1653751/

15:55:45 Duffer1: brb learning romanian

15:57:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 211 @ 0.0008371 = 0.1766 BTC [-] {2}

15:57:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 91 @ 0.00392742 = 0.3574 BTC [-] {2}

15:57:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 677 @ 0.00045 = 0.3047 BTC [+] {2}

15:57:42 mircea_popescu: well at leeast you can now sing along :D

15:58:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.12 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2}

15:58:55 jurov: http://zevv.nl/play/misc/bugaday/

16:00:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.003944 = 0.1183 BTC [+]

16:00:20 Duffer1: sweating onion sauce - that can't be right?

16:01:14 Duffer1: "Well ... I see a creature with mecla the beggar , like pad with wings . Between her tits have hair in their ears and runny die nears surprised sweating onion sauce ."

16:01:18 Duffer1: google translate

16:01:59 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 it's exactly right. tho i'd have said "exhudes onion sauce"

16:02:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 290 @ 0.003948 = 1.1449 BTC [+] {2}

16:02:12 Duffer1: fascinating

16:03:03 mircea_popescu: face of a beggar, like a female hygiene product with wings, hair between the tits and whey coming out of ears.

16:03:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 144 @ 0.003944 = 0.5679 BTC [-]

16:03:34 Duffer1: ohhh pad, i see

16:04:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3660 @ 0.00397988 = 14.5664 BTC [+] {10}

16:06:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [+]

16:07:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 544 @ 0.004282 = 2.3294 BTC [+] {5}

16:07:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00016388 = 1.6388 BTC [-]

16:08:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2081 @ 0.00016388 = 0.341 BTC [-]

16:08:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 356 @ 0.004282 = 1.5244 BTC [+] {3}

16:09:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.11701501 = 2.3403 BTC [-] {6}

16:10:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 527 @ 0.00432375 = 2.2786 BTC [+] {6}

16:11:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 79 @ 0.00433 = 0.3421 BTC [+] {3}

16:11:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10101 = 0.202 BTC [-]

16:11:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11645 = 0.6987 BTC [-] {2}

16:12:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 87 @ 0.00436448 = 0.3797 BTC [+] {3}

16:13:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 127 @ 0.00439 = 0.5575 BTC [+]

16:14:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11438525 = 0.6863 BTC [-] {2}

16:14:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00439 = 0.4478 BTC [+] {3}

16:15:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11400001 = 0.684 BTC [-]

16:15:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00439 = 0.1229 BTC [+]

16:15:49 Jere_Jones: At what point does the price of NEOBEE become silly?

16:16:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.114 = 1.368 BTC [-]

16:17:17 Apocalyptic: silly as in overvalued ?

16:17:42 Jere_Jones: Yeah

16:18:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.11096673 = 1.6645 BTC [-] {3}

16:18:31 thestringpuller: !h b.exch

16:18:31 assbot: List of commands:

16:18:32 assbot: !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}

16:18:33 assbot: !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}

16:18:34 assbot: !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)

16:18:35 assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}

16:18:36 assbot: !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}

16:18:37 assbot: !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)

16:18:38 assbot: !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}

16:18:39 assbot: !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}

16:18:40 thestringpuller: !ticker h b.exch

16:18:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK:B.EXCH] 1D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (111 shares, 18.01540434 BTC), 7D: 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 / 0.16230094 (661 shares, 107.28092134 BTC), 30D: 0.02010015 / 0.19893903 / 0.24310363 (2586 shares, 514.45633147 BTC)

16:18:43 thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe

16:18:43 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00085493 / 0.00088506 / 0.0008982 (593615 shares, 525.39 BTC), 7D: 0.00083298 / 0.00087017 / 0.0008982 (5020770 shares, 4,368.94 BTC), 30D: 0.00082189 / 0.00088785 / 0.00101414 (27032433 shares, 24,000.87 BTC)

16:18:43 thestringpuller: weird....?

16:19:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00045 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}

16:19:48 mircea_popescu: !t h neobee

16:19:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00310005 / 0.00349514 / 0.00439000 (123218 shares, 430.66362307 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.00337639 / 0.00439000 (171638 shares, 579.51649026 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.00317899 / 0.00439000 (308370 shares, 980.30640239 BTC)

16:20:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.11799999 = 0.944 BTC [+] {2}

16:21:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11799999 = 0.236 BTC [+]

16:21:57 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones i dunno, how would you eval it even

16:22:00 thestringpuller: ;;calc 0.000080347 * 5

16:22:02 gribble: 0.000401735

16:22:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00437 = 0.354 BTC [-]

16:23:21 Jere_Jones: It's nonvoting so the only thing that matters is future value + future dividends.

16:23:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.00438 = 0.1183 BTC [+]

16:24:54 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones so they got a bunch of advertising in cyprus done. by my count that's worth ~0, and they have a pretty clueless ceo/management team, which is the end of the story.

16:25:07 mircea_popescu: then again... im sure other people differ.

16:25:15 thestringpuller: babysteps

16:26:24 Jere_Jones: I own some and my avg pps is .001125. At what point do I say "Good 'nuff" and bail?

16:26:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5631 @ 0.00089454 = 5.0372 BTC [-]

16:26:31 thestringpuller: what are they even making money from if they don't charge people to accept payments on their network...

16:26:54 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones did they ever publish a statement ?

16:26:54 jurov: they don't seem to have any product. to get merchants onboard, you need some pos terminal

16:26:59 mircea_popescu: balancesheet, cash flow, etc ?

16:27:33 Jere_Jones: No. Just projections.

16:27:46 mircea_popescu: derp...

16:27:46 thestringpuller: lol like tru payment processor

16:28:11 Jere_Jones: I don't expect one until the end of the quarter.

16:28:20 mircea_popescu: how long have they been trading ?

16:28:31 Jere_Jones: neobee? or in general?

16:28:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00438 = 0.876 BTC [+]

16:28:41 Jere_Jones: Duh. "They", not "you"

16:28:44 mircea_popescu: neobee what do you mean in general.

16:28:46 mircea_popescu: yeah lol.

16:29:18 thestringpuller: !ticker m ^oix

16:29:19 assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)

16:29:25 Jere_Jones: Since October

16:29:42 mircea_popescu: i guess they only missed one if they do quarterlies then

16:29:49 mircea_popescu: so bail once they miss the 2nd

16:29:52 Jere_Jones: The "IPVO" started in october. It ended yesterday.

16:30:00 thestringpuller: are options not moving this month? or is all exposure underwritten/short from users -> mpoebot?

16:30:03 mircea_popescu: not like you'll have any problem unloading to the reddit crowd anyway

16:30:29 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller we're out of signal atm.

16:30:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00438 = 1.0205 BTC [+]

16:30:56 thestringpuller: how so?

16:31:25 thestringpuller: like bitcoin charts has been unreachable for some time?

16:31:32 thestringpuller: or some other signal...?

16:31:56 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506450

16:32:10 thestringpuller: thx

16:32:31 ThickAsThieves: neo does a hold a lot of coin last i knew

16:32:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1230 @ 0.00438376 = 5.392 BTC [-] {2}

16:32:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 27 @ 0.0055 = 0.1485 BTC

16:32:38 ThickAsThieves: another factor to consider

16:33:06 ThickAsThieves: ipo raised like 9500btc or sumth

16:33:23 ThickAsThieves: obviously some ha sbeen spent

16:33:29 ThickAsThieves: no idea at what price or how much though

16:33:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1105001 = 0.442 BTC [-]

16:33:59 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves kinda why statements are helpful.

16:34:08 mircea_popescu: would resolve Jere_Jones question anyway.

16:34:15 thestringpuller: whoa, so gox indirectly is fucking up options quoting?

16:34:18 thestringpuller: well from bot

16:34:21 thestringpuller: hahaha

16:34:22 thestringpuller: woow

16:34:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00089231 = 8.6108 BTC [-]

16:34:43 thestringpuller: what about settling outstanding options? that will still be resuolved with 24h,prc no?

16:34:48 thestringpuller: ;;bc,24hprc

16:34:49 gribble: 350.98

16:34:58 ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves kinda why statements are helpful. /// can't argue with that

16:35:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7649 @ 0.00089156 = 6.8195 BTC [-]

16:35:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00444951 = 0.4672 BTC [+] {4}

16:36:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00446999 = 0.3174 BTC [+] {2}

16:36:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.00470024 = 0.2256 BTC [-] {5}

16:37:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00446999 = 1.0147 BTC [+] {5}

16:38:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 252 @ 0.00447415 = 1.1275 BTC [+] {4}

16:39:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 323 @ 0.0045 = 1.4535 BTC [+] {6}

16:40:54 ThickAsThieves: ebay needs some lessons on how to deal with trolls http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/24/5442358/war-of-words-heats-up-between-carl-icahn-and-ebay-with-accusations-of

16:41:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.0045 = 0.9315 BTC [+] {2}

16:42:33 Diablo-D3: step one: ignore all criticism

16:42:49 davout_: mircea_popescu i lol'd at your last article

16:46:40 ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/bank-like-bitcoin-portal-neo-opens-first-branch-cyprus/ we have liftoff?

16:48:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00479 = 0.1485 BTC [+]

16:49:21 ThickAsThieves: uh oh they mentioned Havelock

16:49:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 120 @ 0.16230094 = 19.4761 BTC [-]

16:50:35 ThickAsThieves: wonder if it'll get picked up by bigger media

16:51:47 BingoBoingo: Doubt it, this isn't OpenBSD or anything

16:51:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00479 = 0.2395 BTC [+]

16:53:58 ThickAsThieves: hehe

16:54:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 229 @ 0.00479785 = 1.0987 BTC [+] {4}

16:54:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC

16:55:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00488 = 0.488 BTC [+]

16:56:08 ThickAsThieves: i see coindesk assumed the market cap on havelock was actually that

16:56:14 BingoBoingo: https://xkcd.com/273/

16:57:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00488 = 0.2147 BTC [+] {2}

16:58:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 340 @ 0.00488 = 1.6592 BTC [+] {2}

16:59:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 133 @ 0.00488751 = 0.65 BTC [+] {4}

17:00:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.17097594 BTC to 2`702 shares, 80347 satoshi per share

17:02:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00488224 = 1.9529 BTC [-] {5}

17:03:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 101 @ 0.00488 = 0.4929 BTC [-] {2}

17:04:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 1.76010680 BTC to 9`595 shares, 18344 satoshi per share

17:05:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 112 @ 0.05943381 = 6.6566 BTC [-] {4}

17:05:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.0049 = 0.5439 BTC [+] {4}

17:05:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00088851 = 19.3695 BTC [-] {2}

17:06:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 125 @ 0.004892 = 0.6115 BTC [-] {3}

17:07:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00489514 = 0.4748 BTC [+] {2}

17:08:07 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: random as shit question. does romania have skateboarding?

17:08:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.000155 = 0.465 BTC [-]

17:08:17 mircea_popescu: i guess it must.

17:08:20 thestringpuller: like are there good skaters out there?

17:08:32 mircea_popescu: i have no idea, i'm kinda interested in women only in that age range.

17:08:47 thestringpuller: lol i have a youtube video for you

17:09:51 thestringpuller: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhQmW21AJHI - bad footage but of a chick skating

17:10:04 thestringpuller: might not be completely your type tho :P (not super model enuff)

17:11:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00487975 = 0.1122 BTC [-] {2}

17:12:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00489 = 0.1516 BTC [-]

17:12:33 mircea_popescu: she's ok i guess.

17:13:23 Duffer1: taking your board to the MPsummit stringpuller? :D

17:13:55 mircea_popescu: so apparently apple just got owned to shit

17:14:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.05821334 = 0.8732 BTC [-] {8}

17:14:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 136 @ 0.00489073 = 0.6651 BTC [+] {2}

17:14:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [+]

17:14:40 mircea_popescu: "This means theoretically that if you?ve been using the flawed iOS or OS X systems since then, a hacker on your shared network could have captured all your data that should have been SSL- or TSL-encrypted for the past 18 months."

17:14:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you seen the shit ?

17:14:59 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: posted it here several days ago

17:15:06 asciilifeform: assumed that nobody gave a shit

17:15:12 mircea_popescu: i guess i didn't realise at the time just how deep it goes

17:15:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000155 = 0.155 BTC [-]

17:15:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 234 @ 0.00489999 = 1.1466 BTC [+] {3}

17:15:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.104 = 0.936 BTC [+] {2}

17:15:22 mircea_popescu: just went "derp, apple sucks"

17:16:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48303333 = 1.4491 BTC [+] {2}

17:17:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 410 @ 0.00489779 = 2.0081 BTC [-] {4}

17:17:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15620 @ 0.00088688 = 13.8531 BTC [-] {2}

17:18:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2280 @ 0.00088651 = 2.0212 BTC [-]

17:18:22 mircea_popescu: "goto fail;" srsly ?!

17:20:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.0049 = 1.715 BTC [+] {3}

17:20:47 asciilifeform: a very convenient 'bug.'

17:21:01 asciilifeform: the days of ham-handed 'nsakey' are long gone.

17:21:18 mircea_popescu: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/02/20/remittance-map/

17:21:20 mircea_popescu: check out nigeria.

17:21:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.004949 = 2.4745 BTC [+]

17:22:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 83 @ 0.0049499 = 0.4108 BTC [+]

17:23:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00494999 = 0.2326 BTC [+]

17:26:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 203 @ 0.00494999 = 1.0048 BTC [+] {5}

17:26:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4420 @ 0.00088651 = 3.9184 BTC [-]

17:27:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.005 = 0.135 BTC [+]

17:28:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1343 @ 0.0001555 = 0.2088 BTC [+]

17:31:13 deadweasel: nigeria rec'd 20bn ?!

17:31:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 117 @ 0.00499986 = 0.585 BTC [-] {2}

17:33:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.485 BTC [+]

17:34:17 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5341322#msg5341322

17:34:20 pankkake: http://beta.slashdot.org/story/198557

17:34:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0049989 = 0.4999 BTC [-]

17:34:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 1000 @ 0.00010091 = 0.1009 BTC [-] {4}

17:34:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.058 = 0.348 BTC [-]

17:35:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.06049899 = 0.726 BTC [+] {4}

17:35:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 305 @ 0.0049991 = 1.5247 BTC [+] {4}

17:36:12 mircea_popescu: deadweasel i saw 6

17:36:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0606 = 0.2424 BTC [+]

17:36:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00499907 = 0.3349 BTC [-] {3}

17:36:42 mircea_popescu: pankkake lol waitwat ?

17:36:46 pankkake: indeed

17:37:32 ThickAsThieves: ahahaha

17:37:39 ThickAsThieves: i'm jealous

17:37:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.0049197 = 0.7822 BTC [-] {6}

17:37:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [+] {2}

17:37:51 jborkl: mircea_pankkake?

17:37:59 mircea_popescu: who's crumbs anyway ?

17:38:35 mircea_popescu: is this some guy's sock trying to pretend he's me or is it some random nut trying to say i'm everybody

17:38:40 jborkl: forum account that got perma banned

17:38:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 450 @ 0.00478 = 2.151 BTC [-] {4}

17:38:44 Duffer1: pretty funny troll

17:38:58 Duffer1: the ActM goatse was perfect

17:39:04 mircea_popescu: eccentric huh ?

17:39:13 mircea_popescu: hey guise you really think i'm eccentric psychotic ?

17:39:23 ThickAsThieves: crumbs uses another name now

17:39:31 mircea_popescu: "The proof of this has been sent to the person who paid for my services which cannot and will not be shown on here, due to the backlash this will bring including personal information for him and other users who have trusted him."

17:39:33 ThickAsThieves: i think i sorted it but i forgot

17:39:38 mircea_popescu: iiiinteresting

17:39:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00478106 = 0.3538 BTC [+] {8}

17:39:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9156 @ 0.00088648 = 8.1166 BTC [-]

17:39:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00509982 = 0.153 BTC [+] {2}

17:39:52 mircea_popescu: "Due to the real identity of these troll accounts belonging to Mircea Popescu and how close he believes himself to be to the higher echelons of Bitcoin including the Mods/Admins of this forum, i don't believe this post to last long."

17:39:56 Bones: btctalk drama is best drama

17:39:58 mircea_popescu: who am i close to, thermos ? bear ?

17:40:08 mircea_popescu: who is even a mod there these days ?

17:40:13 mircea_popescu: o wait, davout!

17:40:14 ThickAsThieves: crumbs is basically who almost knows what he's talking about but usually takes the trolling just ove rthe edge

17:40:29 ThickAsThieves: a poster*

17:40:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 21 @ 0.00509999 = 0.1071 BTC [+]

17:40:52 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves meanwhile i got the list.

17:40:55 ThickAsThieves: bitcoinnewsfeed is velacreations i think

17:41:40 ThickAsThieves: ffsixtynine uses socks to be somewhat pumpy

17:41:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 21 @ 0.0049989 = 0.105 BTC [+] {3}

17:42:12 mircea_popescu: " The Fed isn't printing."

17:42:19 mircea_popescu: gotta love twitter folk.

17:42:39 Duffer1: eoe

17:42:43 Duffer1: wow even

17:42:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.0049989 = 0.9598 BTC [+] {5}

17:42:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.0051 = 0.1275 BTC [+]

17:42:49 mircea_popescu: incidentally : check out this shot https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhQVp6XIEAANOCd.jpg:large

17:42:57 mircea_popescu: isn't it fucking pathetic ? i mean it's obv the girls aren't there cause of the guy.

17:43:08 mircea_popescu: they're not even looking at him, more liek trying to get in the shot.

17:43:23 ThickAsThieves: i bet he's into some weird shit

17:43:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 525 @ 0.00499897 = 2.6245 BTC [+] {5}

17:44:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 272 @ 0.00499893 = 1.3597 BTC [-] {6}

17:44:53 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves maybe he's crumbs.

17:45:27 ThickAsThieves: here's my ignore list if anyone wants http://dpaste.com/1654085/

17:45:49 Duffer1: can i be Crumbs?

17:45:51 ThickAsThieves: not all scammers

17:45:54 Duffer1: dibs

17:45:56 mircea_popescu: i recently emptied mine. i feel all nude now

17:46:03 ThickAsThieves: cuz i also ignore total idiots

17:46:06 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves wait, vampire is on irc ?!

17:46:13 ThickAsThieves: tahts the forum

17:46:13 Jere_Jones: Hmmm... the first name on your list is the dude that sold me my first bitcoins.

17:46:15 mircea_popescu: a, forum nm.

17:46:32 mircea_popescu: listen, with the new 0day scammer registration programme, does ignoring even serve any purpose anymore ?

17:47:02 mircea_popescu: lol ignored aussie_striker

17:47:43 ThickAsThieves: i think it does serve purpose cuz now accounts with more than 1 coin go up in scammer value

17:47:48 ThickAsThieves: so there will be persistence

17:47:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00499889 = 0.22 BTC [-] {2}

17:48:10 mircea_popescu: all these names i don't know

17:48:14 ThickAsThieves: and there is def evidence of 2+coin accounts being sold

17:48:23 mircea_popescu: SolarWindMiningCompany << wait aren't these those idiots with the insane ipo plan ?

17:48:52 ThickAsThieves: dunno

17:49:01 ThickAsThieves: my gavel is swift and lacks memory

17:49:22 ThickAsThieves: sometimes

17:49:23 ThickAsThieves: hehe

17:49:46 mircea_popescu: nice list of people who LIVE for bitcoin, had you paid attention!!1

17:49:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 251 @ 0.00484762 = 1.2168 BTC [-] {3}

17:50:47 Duffer1: wait so "Prism" is claiming Crumbs is MP/Pankkake and MPOE-PR and that he was hired to find out this information by a high value neobee holder

17:50:58 mircea_popescu: "The information & proof has now all been given to the buyer to do with as they please (legal action) - (see below), now with their consent I have the approval to post the identity of this Troll."

17:51:05 mircea_popescu: wait wait... i'm getting sued ?

17:51:25 mircea_popescu: pankkake what have you got me mixed up in!

17:51:33 Duffer1: this is a bizarre troll, i wonder what the endgame is

17:51:41 Duffer1: er endgame = punchline

17:51:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.0049989 = 0.3799 BTC [+]

17:51:59 mircea_popescu: i am but a simple country boy, some might say a cock-eyed optimist, who got mixed up in a deadly game of world diplomacy and international intrigue!

17:52:28 Duffer1: bitcointalk drama is best drama

17:52:35 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

17:52:36 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 554.46, Best ask: 554.89, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 554.99, 24 hour volume: 45677.47870327, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 579.195068284

17:52:50 mircea_popescu: "mp is ousted as pankkake/crumbs. bitcoin plunges"

17:53:32 BingoBoingo: It wouldn't be the first time.

17:54:10 mircea_popescu: actually you're right, the pankkake theory is really...

17:54:14 mircea_popescu: wait. usagi invented that neh ?

17:54:21 mircea_popescu: or was usagi before p's time

17:54:54 mircea_popescu: who was usagi threatening to sue because it's me ?

17:54:56 BingoBoingo: Usagi I think was largely pre-pankkake

17:54:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.0049989 = 0.12 BTC [+]

17:55:08 ThickAsThieves: coincidence!?

17:55:16 BingoBoingo: Maybe Deprived or repentance?

17:55:23 mircea_popescu: repentance ? hmmm

17:55:27 jborkl: deprived

17:55:31 mircea_popescu: cause he had irc logs as evidence!

17:55:35 ThickAsThieves: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/10434/guncoin-2nd-amendment/

17:55:37 mircea_popescu: of me hiring whoever to mess up his biz

17:55:39 ThickAsThieves: fukn hideous

17:56:00 Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.0

17:56:04 ThickAsThieves: "Guncoin claims to exist out of a real public need. In the United States it is very difficult to find conventional payment processors willing to serve online firearm dealers. When a third party payment processor is willing to process a transaction it involves an incredibly high fee."

17:56:09 ThickAsThieves: how cna they print that shit

17:56:15 pankkake: yes, I almost invested in usagi stuff but people said noooooooooooooo and then there was no usagi

17:56:32 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is actually true.

17:56:42 pankkake: also, Prism is probably crumbs

17:56:58 ThickAsThieves: how does guncoin solve anything?

17:57:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00088473 = 12.3862 BTC [-] {2}

17:57:04 mircea_popescu: never you mind that.

17:57:06 ThickAsThieves: by being bitcoin in disguise?

17:57:22 mircea_popescu: the true part is that gun dealers are being squeezed by obama's goons exactly on the pp side.

17:58:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00088342 = 4.6821 BTC [-]

17:58:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}

17:58:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]

17:58:06 pankkake: guncoin is worse, because it says "i trade guns"

17:58:16 pankkake: whereas bitcoin you can say it was only for pot

17:58:32 mircea_popescu: lol

17:58:38 mircea_popescu: hence "Crackpot"

17:58:52 mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9ihtpqwVP1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg << cunt we all just get along ?

17:59:04 ThickAsThieves: bitcoin mag needs an editor with a strong pimp hand

18:00:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00499896 = 0.3599 BTC [+] {3}

18:01:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is a whole u.s. subculture of astoundingly illiterate folks who will fall for this

18:01:37 mircea_popescu: this

18:01:38 asciilifeform: the same ones who came up in your research of 'sovereign citizen' crapola

18:01:45 mircea_popescu: o o o.

18:02:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 175 @ 0.0049987 = 0.8748 BTC [-] {3}

18:02:07 mircea_popescu: well... the more idiots are being drawn away from bitcoin, the better.

18:02:17 mircea_popescu: people going about "adoption" keep forgetting we don't want a large number of idiots,

18:02:28 mircea_popescu: we want a high avg iq more than that

18:02:49 ThickAsThieves: yeha if we spend all the idiots now, what will the smarties pillage?

18:03:10 kakobrekla: did you make the chart Bugpowder?

18:03:31 mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9db3yoO1v1ry97voo1_500.jpg << aren't those great tits ?

18:04:44 Duffer1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344219.msg3954657#msg3954657

18:05:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 380 @ 0.004999 = 1.8996 BTC [+] {3}

18:05:39 Bugpowder: kakobrekla: not yet. Fucking swamped with real work

18:05:45 mircea_popescu: I offer 1M Nxt ? what's that worth ?

18:05:53 ThickAsThieves: something

18:06:06 ThickAsThieves: what's wrong with these people

18:06:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.004999 = 4.999 BTC [+] {2}

18:06:11 Bugpowder: Need to figure out a better JSON parser for Matlab first.

18:06:13 ThickAsThieves: pankkake doesnt even troll

18:06:35 Bones: that's mp's serious account

18:07:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 205 @ 0.0049951 = 1.024 BTC [-] {3}

18:07:26 ThickAsThieves: how on earth are people still caring about ActM

18:07:30 ThickAsThieves: does it pay divs or something?

18:07:50 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yes. 1mn nexts

18:08:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0055 = 0.22 BTC

18:08:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00499502 = 2.4975 BTC [-] {2}

18:08:12 pankkake: still not trading so no

18:08:49 pankkake: also crypto-trade is down

18:08:54 pankkake: https://crypto-trade.com/maintenance

18:09:05 Duffer1: ya lol

18:09:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.00499 = 0.6387 BTC [-] {2}

18:09:12 mircea_popescu: "So above you see pankkake continue to smear the company ActiveMining (by calling it an investment scam, associating it with the known 'LabCoin scam', saying the CEO is facing jail and accusing me of being a scammer (!)) after Ken publicly refused to pay pankkake's blackmail money demand."

18:09:13 mircea_popescu: derp

18:09:20 ThickAsThieves: they were hacked right? C-T

18:09:28 Duffer1: of course

18:09:29 ThickAsThieves: they say they lost $30k and will cover it

18:09:29 mircea_popescu: these people. i wonder if there's anyone but the scammers left on that forum

18:09:50 mircea_popescu: o look, they could have got a mpex seat

18:10:11 ThickAsThieves: they are on sale havent you heard?

18:10:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00499 = 0.3094 BTC [-] {3}

18:10:20 pankkake: I forced myself to log out and missed all the good things!

18:10:22 ThickAsThieves: like $16500

18:10:32 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

18:10:33 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 534.0, Best ask: 535.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 535.0, 24 hour volume: 47401.00643850, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 577.133067696

18:10:41 mircea_popescu: yeah not bad.

18:11:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.106 = 0.212 BTC [+] {2}

18:11:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 310 @ 0.00499 = 1.5469 BTC [-]

18:11:18 mircea_popescu: MPOE-PR: "i just... i can't even... i wasn't going to say anything tonight, but this forum has decreased in intelligence and self-awareness since last fall at least three fold"

18:11:46 mircea_popescu: "sometimes i imagine i'm in a floating third world bazaar full of people trying to sell socks and pick pockets and not much else"

18:12:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05800016 = 0.174 BTC [-] {2}

18:12:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.004995 = 1.998 BTC [+]

18:12:17 pankkake: there has been like three scams in a week

18:12:36 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one of the great mysteries that my puny brain is powerless to digest is why you & mpoepr haven't decamped and left that forum to the radioactive cockroaches and rats

18:13:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.058 = 0.232 BTC [-] {2}

18:13:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4000 @ 0.00499909 = 19.9964 BTC [+] {7}

18:13:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]

18:13:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform she does what i say and i never said she should leave.

18:13:31 Duffer1: the rabbit hole, it goes deeper https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5341519#msg5341519

18:13:33 mircea_popescu: call it inertia i guess

18:14:01 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i meant you in the sense of your firm, naturally

18:14:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1301 @ 0.005 = 6.505 BTC [+] {4}

18:14:19 mircea_popescu: uh howssat ?

18:15:03 asciilifeform: just, how low does the signal to noise ratio need to go

18:15:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.107 = 0.321 BTC [+] {3}

18:15:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 470 @ 0.00517446 = 2.432 BTC [+] {3}

18:15:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]

18:15:21 mircea_popescu: i never measure it tho. what do i care ?

18:15:28 mircea_popescu: she writes well, that's good enough.

18:16:12 asciilifeform: the swine appear to be indifferent to the pearls, though

18:16:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 32 @ 0.00464002 = 0.1485 BTC [-] {3}

18:16:38 mircea_popescu: i think some people here actually found this place because they ran over something she said.

18:17:49 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5341519#msg5341519 << asciilifeform check it out

18:17:59 mircea_popescu: they're doing textual analysis on me, coming to th conclusion i'm nick szabo

18:18:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00088319 = 9.4501 BTC [-] {2}

18:18:21 asciilifeform: i wonder how many other people are szabo now.

18:18:36 asciilifeform: who, i wonder, am i

18:18:43 mircea_popescu: you are crumbs.

18:19:04 asciilifeform: mebbe i'm an unknown usenet spammer from 1994.

18:19:06 mircea_popescu: your girl is pankkake.

18:19:11 mircea_popescu: except on weekends. then she's thestringpuller

18:19:13 asciilifeform: textual analysis, wonderful thing

18:19:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.005198 = 0.499 BTC [-]

18:20:55 jurov: pity we can't use graphology

18:21:02 pankkake: crumbs was accused of being Eduardo de Castro, CEO of Hashfast

18:21:10 pankkake: I think I was paid by Hashfast too

18:21:13 asciilifeform: phrenology,

18:21:14 asciilifeform: .

18:21:18 mircea_popescu: derpology ?

18:21:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.481 = 2.405 BTC [-]

18:21:25 ThickAsThieves: <asciilifeform> who, i wonder, am i /// lol

18:21:25 mircea_popescu: herpetology was taken

18:21:45 diametric: so pankkake is controlled by mircea_popescu

18:21:47 diametric: many lols.

18:22:05 ThickAsThieves: i read a book on graphology once, pretty much says, people who write crazy, are mor elikely to be crazy

18:22:12 mircea_popescu: oops sorry guys i accidentally posted as diametric

18:22:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0051959 = 1.0392 BTC [-]

18:22:29 pankkake: I write crazy

18:22:33 diametric: its popescu's all the way down

18:22:37 pankkake: can't even follow lines

18:22:47 ThickAsThieves: broken cursive seemed to be a big indicator, if i recall

18:22:47 pankkake: my signature is never the same

18:22:59 kakobrekla: i dont write crazy but i am

18:23:06 mircea_popescu: anyone wanna see my handwriting /

18:23:16 BingoBoingo: Why not?

18:23:22 ThickAsThieves: sure

18:23:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00519608 = 0.3533 BTC [+] {3}

18:23:28 kakobrekla: its prolly like doctors

18:23:30 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2010/ajunge/

18:23:35 ThickAsThieves: i'm betting it leans slightly to the left

18:23:40 mircea_popescu: telling natl liberal party to get stuffed.

18:23:48 mircea_popescu: it's a historical document of sorts!

18:24:05 ThickAsThieves: your sig looks a lot like mine

18:24:22 mircea_popescu: CLEARLY

18:24:25 mircea_popescu: you're pankkake

18:24:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.0051985 = 1.0917 BTC [+]

18:24:35 ThickAsThieves: pretty normal handwriting

18:24:37 ThickAsThieves: not crazy

18:24:42 ThickAsThieves: you may put on your robe

18:25:00 mircea_popescu: lies.

18:25:01 asciilifeform: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Wladislaus_Dragwlya.JPG

18:25:11 mircea_popescu: preparetohearfrommyelawyer

18:25:16 mircea_popescu: fortheseslanders

18:25:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 454 @ 0.00519809 = 2.3599 BTC [-] {2}

18:25:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is that you ?

18:25:47 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's the good king vlad.

18:26:03 mircea_popescu: indeed.

18:26:08 mircea_popescu: nice penmanship

18:26:22 mircea_popescu: anyway, anyone can transcribe my shit ?

18:26:27 mircea_popescu: first complete version gets 1k ATC

18:26:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 202 @ 0.0051985 = 1.0501 BTC [+] {2}

18:26:35 asciilifeform: seems like there was a time when anyone with something to write had decent penmanship.

18:26:36 devthedev: What do you need mircea_popescu?

18:26:49 mircea_popescu: devthedev you mean generally or what ?

18:27:00 devthedev: What do you need transcribed :P

18:27:45 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2014#525896

18:28:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00519133 = 0.3219 BTC [-] {3}

18:28:33 Apocalyptic: guys, and particularly asciilifeform, what hardware would you recommend to generate random bytes ?

18:28:47 mircea_popescu: cardano :D

18:28:57 asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: how many do you need? and for what use ?

18:28:58 Jere_Jones: What's the budget and timeline?

18:29:06 ThickAsThieves: place cat on keyboard for random bytes

18:29:19 Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, just 8 bytes, I need the best entropy i can reallistically get

18:29:21 asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: more importantly, do you need random bytes that others do not have a copy of?

18:29:25 Apocalyptic: yes

18:29:43 devthedev: Oh

18:29:43 asciilifeform: for 8 bytes, toss a coin manually and apply von neumann's debiasing algo.

18:29:45 Apocalyptic: do I just roll dice ?

18:29:52 Apocalyptic: ok

18:30:08 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic 1F 22 5A 94 D5 09 40 8B

18:30:10 mircea_popescu: there you go.

18:30:21 asciilifeform: depending on how crufty your coin is, you may have to throw it several hundred times.

18:30:26 Apocalyptic: do you need random bytes that others do not have a copy of? // now -assets has them, seems about right

18:30:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.0051892 = 0.9756 BTC [-] {3}

18:30:53 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you know the von neumann coin debias algo ?

18:30:57 Apocalyptic: yes

18:30:58 asciilifeform: http://www.billthelizard.com/2009/09/getting-fair-toss-from-biased-coin.html

18:31:02 mircea_popescu: so then that

18:31:06 Apocalyptic: I was tempted to dd if=/dev/random bs=8 count=1 > secret

18:31:15 Apocalyptic: then i don't trust my hd RNG very much

18:31:17 mircea_popescu: prolly work.

18:31:41 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the problem of rng quality only appears on large datasets.

18:31:45 mircea_popescu: for 8 bytes nobody can say anything

18:31:55 mircea_popescu: FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF is perfectly random

18:32:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 457 @ 0.00518248 = 2.3684 BTC [-] {5}

18:32:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0597 = 0.1791 BTC [-]

18:32:41 Apocalyptic: the probability of others guessing that is quite high though

18:32:56 Apocalyptic: but I know what you mean

18:33:07 ThickAsThieves: i'd never have guessed it

18:33:15 mircea_popescu: just impossible to verify entropy quality on tiny samples.

18:33:31 Apocalyptic: generally any statistical analysis is irrelevant on tiny samples

18:33:32 mircea_popescu: and yes, it SEEMS it'd have been easy.

18:33:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.00509999 = 0.5355 BTC [-] {3}

18:33:38 mircea_popescu: but only in retrospect.

18:33:48 asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: if you're a decent player of 'von neumann's mindreader' game, you can safely use your own fingers.

18:33:56 mircea_popescu: there's a slight difference between stat analysis and entropy measuring, but anyway

18:33:59 Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, will look into that, thanks

18:34:14 Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, yeah, was just pointing another fact

18:34:16 asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html

18:34:26 ThickAsThieves: i love that thing

18:34:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0051 = 0.408 BTC [+]

18:34:49 ThickAsThieves: i got into a zone where i was doing well by not thinking, but couldnt keep it up

18:35:01 mircea_popescu: look at that, Jere_Jones is nao rich, over 51!

18:35:04 ThickAsThieves: thats what she saud

18:35:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.0050038 = 0.2602 BTC [-] {4}

18:36:45 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic actually, probably great way to get random data : select random day from log, select random portion of text, hash it.

18:37:18 mircea_popescu: as anyone reading can attest, this chat is the randomest thing on the planet.

18:37:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.481 BTC [-]

18:37:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.005 = 0.555 BTC [-] {4}

18:38:11 Jere_Jones: Rich? Eh. The depth on Havelock is so thin that I'd wipe out the entire orderbook down to 1 satoshi. So it isn't like I can actually cash out.

18:38:30 mircea_popescu: $depth meh nm

18:38:31 mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.

18:38:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.005 = 0.5 BTC [-]

18:39:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 882 @ 0.0048611 = 4.2875 BTC [-] {11}

18:39:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00088262 = 7.8994 BTC [-]

18:40:20 mircea_popescu: holy shit i totally forgot nubbins!

18:40:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00470466 = 0.5551 BTC [-] {3}

18:42:19 ThickAsThieves: did you leave him in a trunk or something?

18:42:31 Vexual: tied in the celar

18:42:34 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins`omfg you're right!

18:42:34 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:42:43 devthedev: Hey BingoBoingo

18:42:43 devthedev: Anyone think Gox will ever resume BTC withdraws? :P

18:42:54 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no i just went ballistic over idiot wannabes stealing shit totally forgetting to mention i got it from him

18:43:04 mircea_popescu: which i guess is ironic

18:43:13 Vexual: everyone was poliely ignoring that mp

18:43:22 mircea_popescu: Vexual you're too kind lol

18:43:26 ThickAsThieves: lol

18:43:29 mircea_popescu: devthedev i think there's some bets about it

18:43:54 mircea_popescu: nubsy should start that sausage blog already so i can give him a link

18:44:13 ThickAsThieves: all you have to do is auto-include your "it all started on IRC, like all good things these days" line before you speka in public

18:44:23 *: ThickAsThieves badoom tsss

18:44:32 mircea_popescu: i no speka

18:44:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.00479998 = 0.4944 BTC [+] {3}

18:44:48 ThickAsThieves: the badoom tss was for 'give him a link'\

18:44:51 mircea_popescu: who broke the pipes

18:45:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 190 @ 0.00480299 = 0.9126 BTC [+] {3}

18:46:05 devthedev: I guess we'll see

18:46:30 Vexual: mp is probably nubbins anyways

18:46:42 pankkake: the proof is in the beard

18:46:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 33 @ 0.00498999 = 0.1647 BTC [+] {3}

18:47:39 pankkake: crumbs sent me a PM quoting Prism. he's definitively Prism

18:47:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 188 @ 0.00498999 = 0.9381 BTC [+] {4}

18:49:08 Duffer1: nice try crumbs

18:49:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06 = 0.12 BTC [+]

18:49:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.129498 = 0.259 BTC [+]

18:53:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC

18:54:06 mircea_popescu: no, his ass is too big.

18:54:14 Vexual: neo-bee.com has an image of a man with a rope standing next to a chair in the middle of a room

18:54:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2460 @ 0.0001555 = 0.3825 BTC [+]

18:55:46 Jere_Jones: What is the image at the end of http://fraudsters.com/2014/bitcoin-was-written-by-the-retarded-part-ii/ ?

18:56:39 mircea_popescu: these self improvement idjits are ridiculous by now. "You want to do something that you enjoy every day and then the outcome doesn't matter."

18:56:49 mircea_popescu: derp, jacking off meets those criteria.

18:57:11 mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones the well known headmash on kbd gif

18:57:14 mircea_popescu: doesn't it load ?

18:57:36 BingoBoingo: Maybe the point is that jacking of meets those criteria exactly

18:57:38 Jere_Jones: I only saw the final frame

18:57:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 24 @ 0.0606 = 1.4544 BTC [+]

18:58:02 Jere_Jones: Reloading the page and seeing from the beginning makes more sense.

18:59:28 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo indeed.

18:59:36 Duffer1: oh i see, it doesn't replay

19:00:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12947591 = 0.259 BTC [-] {2}

19:00:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00497777 = 0.2489 BTC [-]

19:02:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 667 @ 0.00492657 = 3.286 BTC [-] {5}

19:02:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12947691 BTC [+]

19:02:29 Vexual: http://www.neo-bee.com/files/9313/9238/8855/neo-front-04.jpg

19:03:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.0048 = 0.2064 BTC [-]

19:03:21 mircea_popescu: http://sirf-online.org/2014/02/21/how-to-effortlessly-earn-a-riskless-90-on-your-bitcoins-through-the-magic-of-binary-options-trading-or-the-nigerian-email-con-tries-wall-street/ sort-of lulzy

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19:03:49 kakobrekla: how is it no risk

19:03:58 kakobrekla: what if btc plummets to shit

19:04:01 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla again this ghostship of an idea ?

19:04:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 352 @ 0.0048 = 1.6896 BTC [-] {3}

19:04:07 mircea_popescu: it keeps coming back.

19:04:12 kakobrekla: was it here before?

19:04:32 Duffer1: pankkake don't leave us :*(

19:04:33 kakobrekla: i shathap then

19:05:05 ThickAsThieves: i guess neo condoms DO exist! http://i.imgur.com/atiOW5D.jpg

19:05:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00498146 = 1.8382 BTC [+] {5}

19:05:16 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla there was a business cca 2012, different guy

19:05:19 mircea_popescu: it never went anywhere

19:05:39 kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves you dont have a problem with so much lulzy claims ?

19:05:52 kakobrekla: you might as well run PPT i guess?

19:05:56 ThickAsThieves: which lulzy claims?

19:06:01 kakobrekla: all of them

19:06:06 ThickAsThieves: the terminal http://i.imgur.com/XeITiI6.jpg

19:06:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 549 @ 0.00498452 = 2.7365 BTC [+] {5}

19:06:20 jurov: pirate did not invest in real estate development

19:06:28 kakobrekla: his face is real estate

19:06:30 ThickAsThieves: i missed something kako

19:06:34 mircea_popescu: my understanding was that ThickAsThieves is not actually related to neobee

19:06:46 kakobrekla: as much as goat is not related to pirate

19:06:49 ThickAsThieves: i dont run it or anything

19:07:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 382 @ 0.00488831 = 1.8673 BTC [-] {4}

19:07:10 ThickAsThieves: i make my criticisms known to them when i have them

19:07:10 mircea_popescu: do you run the havelock asset ?

19:07:10 pankkake: Duffer1: I actually force myself to log out so I can do better things now

19:07:12 ThickAsThieves: sometimes they listen

19:07:20 ThickAsThieves: i do

19:07:26 mircea_popescu: well then.

19:07:31 pankkake: I liked the neo payement receipt

19:07:35 ThickAsThieves: i mean run Neo

19:07:40 ThickAsThieves: meant*

19:07:50 ThickAsThieves: i am pankkake, not a CEO

19:08:00 Vexual: did your cousins fit out the shop tat?

19:08:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00497924 = 0.4929 BTC [+] {3}

19:08:32 ThickAsThieves: i helped with the new website, though it wasn't rendered entirely to spec

19:08:39 mircea_popescu: so then basically you run the havelock asset but have no say in anything

19:08:41 ThickAsThieves: but that was just cuz i felt like it

19:08:46 mircea_popescu: what's going on in your head ?

19:08:54 mircea_popescu: suppose they split. what do you do then, apologize ?

19:08:59 Vexual: did you spec the suicide imagery?

19:09:01 ThickAsThieves: split?

19:09:05 mircea_popescu: yes. split.

19:09:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 47 @ 0.0046401 = 0.2181 BTC [-] {2}

19:09:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 724 @ 0.00499999 = 3.62 BTC [+] {4}

19:09:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12949998 BTC [+]

19:09:35 ThickAsThieves: suppose asciilifeform splits

19:09:38 ThickAsThieves: then what do you do

19:09:45 Apocalyptic: "<I_told_you_so> US Exchange Regulators needs to step in and Audit Mt.Gox finances to protect the US investors." seriously nao

19:09:49 ThickAsThieves: suppose erik scams all his shareholders what do you do?

19:09:56 mircea_popescu: i distribute ~1.0 par on the shares and dissolve s.nsa

19:10:02 mircea_popescu: i force him not to

19:10:07 mircea_popescu: and people get ~1.0 par on their shares.

19:10:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 468 @ 0.00499997 = 2.34 BTC [-] {5}

19:10:24 ThickAsThieves: 1.0 par? you mena you refund the ipo price?

19:10:27 mircea_popescu: not very good examples, there.

19:10:35 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves roughly. have you seen the s.nsa report ?

19:10:51 ThickAsThieves: not lately

19:11:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 749 @ 0.00499998 = 3.745 BTC [+] {4}

19:11:14 ThickAsThieves: how does Neo "split"?

19:11:15 mircea_popescu: S.NSA has a total of 4`737`075 authorised shares outstanding. The total assets per share implied value is thus 0.00009980 BTC. The cash+tangible assets per share implied value is thus 0.00009828 BTC.

19:11:23 mircea_popescu: so it's about 0.9828 par atm.

19:11:24 ThickAsThieves: burn down the buildings and vanish?

19:11:36 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves just goes "havelock ? shares ? wat ?"

19:11:56 mircea_popescu: "we never heard of any of this sorry"

19:11:59 ThickAsThieves: they are profit-shares firstly

19:12:04 mircea_popescu: so ?

19:12:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.005 = 0.42 BTC [+] {3}

19:12:18 ThickAsThieves: oh

19:12:23 ThickAsThieves: i have a contract with Neo

19:12:26 mircea_popescu: suppose they get bought out.

19:12:30 mircea_popescu: is this published anywhere ?

19:12:41 ThickAsThieves: no it's private

19:12:55 mircea_popescu: which means if anything goes south you will be sue-able.

19:13:07 mircea_popescu: at the very least as about five different torts.

19:13:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.005 = 0.375 BTC [+]

19:13:35 ThickAsThieves: i am only an administrator for them

19:14:05 mircea_popescu: if the deal goes south in any way your secret contract fails to cover for it any havelock owner can sue you for breach of fiduciary duty

19:14:17 mircea_popescu: as they trusted you and your secret contract to protect their legitimate interest in the matter.

19:14:24 mircea_popescu: and this is merely scratching the surface.

19:14:36 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462370.msg5343174#msg5343174 some serious conspiracy stuff going on! (too bad I actually bought the captchas for the other guy, not the reverse)

19:15:07 kakobrekla: i guess my question is at what point would you say "thats too much of a scam for me to administer". would you take over a PPT?

19:15:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.0051 = 0.3672 BTC [+]

19:15:19 mircea_popescu: "Now, if you look at his Web of Trust ratings, you'll see that pankkake has a rating from user abc4btc with the note

19:15:19 mircea_popescu: "small captcha-for-btc transaction". Two months later MP gave him a rating as a "python dev". MP also has a rating from

19:15:19 mircea_popescu: pankkake for "MPEx and other stuff" (#32218)."

19:15:21 ThickAsThieves: i dont take over things

19:15:21 mircea_popescu: definitely!

19:15:24 mircea_popescu: we're in the wot!

19:15:33 ThickAsThieves: and Neo is not a scam

19:15:40 kakobrekla: ...

19:15:54 ThickAsThieves: how the hell can you still be riding that

19:16:31 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if they get no roi on their advertising campaign what happens ?

19:16:35 kakobrekla: i asked you at what point, obviously you think its all good or else you wouldnt be doing the administration or does it not matter to you ?

19:16:50 ThickAsThieves: of course it matters to me

19:17:00 mircea_popescu: pankkake the lulzy part is the guy has a dota avatar. wtf one could like dota and be that silly.

19:17:08 ThickAsThieves: you dont see a difference between the things my name is on and everyone else's yet?

19:17:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 282 @ 0.00509997 = 1.4382 BTC [+] {3}

19:17:31 kakobrekla: you dont understand that whatever you contract says you are associated with them in public

19:17:33 pankkake: if only they spent that energy on researching scammers

19:17:36 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves seems to me you've put yourself in a rather untenable position there, if that's what you're asking.

19:17:36 Duffer1: ken having his head so far up his own ass he doesn't know up from down isn't the problem it's those terrible trolls pankkake and crumbs, payed by MP to slander ActM

19:17:38 Jere_Jones: Is that why you dropped AM1 and AM100?

19:17:56 pankkake: oh, dota as day of the dentacle. not the other gayme

19:18:01 mircea_popescu: pankkake yup

19:18:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 528 @ 0.00509999 = 2.6928 BTC [+] {5}

19:18:26 davout: pankkake: best game evar

19:18:40 mircea_popescu: it was pretty fun yeah.

19:18:42 pankkake: I have played other lucasarts games but not this one :(

19:18:44 mircea_popescu: very clever

19:18:50 mircea_popescu: o get it, definitely.

19:18:54 mircea_popescu: great humour.

19:19:09 mircea_popescu: that and planescape:torment prolly the best writing in game history.

19:19:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 515 @ 0.00500312 = 2.5766 BTC [-] {8}

19:19:21 pankkake: the only one I managed to finish was Full Throttle

19:19:28 ThickAsThieves: <Jere_Jones> Is that why you dropped AM1 and AM100? /// not specifically, but AM's ways didn't give me much reason to stay

19:20:00 ThickAsThieves: are transfer agents sued in such examples?

19:20:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.005 = 0.4 BTC [-]

19:20:30 mircea_popescu: there's about five yards worth of caselaw dealing with undisclosed contracts/relationships and what implications these have.

19:20:47 mircea_popescu: but as a rule of thumb, it opens up the agent to all sorts of liabilities.

19:21:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00499988 = 5.1799 BTC [-] {3}

19:21:32 mircea_popescu: anyway, as to the direct question, yes.

19:22:02 ThickAsThieves: anything linkable?

19:22:05 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2013/our-emperor-deliver-us/ << this is an instructive example, which was litigated in spite of the thing being quite public, and on a hell of a technicality.

19:22:20 jurov: I wonder why the havelock IPO is not mentioned on neo-bee.com ?

19:22:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004991 = 0.2995 BTC [-] {2}

19:22:24 mircea_popescu: now imagine that instead of the two parties, there was a 3rd agent involved on one side.

19:22:41 jurov: why are they afraid to publicly link themselves to it?

19:22:51 BingoBoingo: The predictive power of kakobrekla's soul slander has lead me to submit a bitbet for consideration.

19:23:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1000 @ 0.00086361 = 0.8636 BTC [+] {6}

19:23:42 Vexual: lmb-havelock lmb-neo

19:24:19 asciilifeform: suppose $fill-in-the-blank splits << suppose we're all hanged tomorrow.

19:24:23 asciilifeform: suppose nuclear war.

19:24:23 asciilifeform: etc

19:24:24 ThickAsThieves: jurov neo is owned by LMB, which has a wbesite and mentiones shares

19:24:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1358 @ 0.00086495 = 1.1746 BTC [+] {5}

19:24:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.481 = 2.405 BTC [-] {2}

19:24:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda different things.

19:25:15 mircea_popescu: https://www.lmb-holdings.com/ this ?

19:25:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.004991 = 0.9982 BTC [-]

19:25:29 ThickAsThieves: yessir

19:25:51 mircea_popescu: no hits for havelock or shares on the main page ?

19:26:16 asciilifeform: at any rate, i do assume that mpex users have brains and that the amount of s.nsa operations presently resting on my earthy carcass is priced into the shares.

19:26:22 kakobrekla: Jere_Jones : its like this: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2014#517566

19:26:24 asciilifeform: *earthly

19:26:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1027 @ 0.00082899 = 0.8514 BTC [-] {10}

19:26:30 ThickAsThieves: shares should hit

19:26:34 ThickAsThieves: it's in the main nav

19:27:11 mircea_popescu: i guess maybe i'm getting a broken version

19:27:21 asciilifeform: once the complete blueprints for the current product are published, the carcass becomes less essential. and this too should end up priced in.

19:27:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 33890 @ 0.00014522 = 4.9215 BTC [-] {24}

19:27:30 ThickAsThieves: neo does not have any reason to promote buying shares anymore anyway

19:28:00 mircea_popescu: $vwap s.nsa

19:28:01 mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.NSA 1 day: average: 0.00021 high: 0.00021 low: 0.00021 volume: 13000 btc: 2.73 7 day: average: 0.00020673 high: 0.00021 low: 0.0002 volume: 21400 btc: 4.424 30 day: average: 0.00014043 high: 0.00021 low: 0.000105 volume: 123750 btc: 17.378382

19:28:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform atm trading at like 220% book. i guess you're well regarded.

19:28:24 asciilifeform: wish i knew why

19:28:25 mircea_popescu: not much volume at all tho

19:28:34 mike_c: meh, only if the current product is the last product. don't go dying yet ascii.

19:28:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform probably the number guesser thing

19:28:41 asciilifeform: haha

19:29:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00014 = 0.14 BTC [-]

19:30:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00013999 = 0.42 BTC [-] {2}

19:31:24 Vexual: tat do you hold shares in lmb?

19:32:12 ThickAsThieves: mp you got pm's btw

19:34:03 mircea_popescu: aha

19:34:36 kakobrekla: www.lmb-holdings.com/public_ledger/

19:34:43 kakobrekla: this is taken from havelock or what is this

19:34:48 kakobrekla: ?

19:34:54 ThickAsThieves: it's list of direct holders

19:35:00 Vexual: i think thats the neo ipo

19:35:23 kakobrekla: these shares are not trading?

19:35:35 Vexual: they don't become shareholders of lmb holdings do they?

19:35:35 mircea_popescu: bizarre arrangement.

19:35:46 asciilifeform: people who liked the numbers widget should respect the tomb of von neumann, not me.

19:36:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.06 = 0.18 BTC [-]

19:36:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00498899 = 0.4989 BTC [-]

19:37:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00493079 = 0.1381 BTC [-] {2}

19:37:58 benkay`: davout i would indeed enjoy those tunes

19:38:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] CAPITULATION

19:38:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00088234 = 13.0145 BTC [-]

19:38:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 122 @ 0.00480737 = 0.5865 BTC [-] {3}

19:39:05 benkay`: wtf is this: <assbot> [MPEX] [S.NSA] CAPITULATION

19:39:11 mircea_popescu: wtf ?

19:39:16 kakobrekla: meh im trolln

19:39:22 mircea_popescu: dun do that jeeze

19:39:26 benkay`: phoo

19:39:28 asciilifeform: do i get tried at nuremberg?

19:39:38 asciilifeform: or is it conditional capitulation

19:39:56 asciilifeform: 'inquiring minds want to know'

19:40:23 kakobrekla: it was a reply to the humble last line from ascii before that

19:40:28 kakobrekla: is all

19:40:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0048197 = 0.482 BTC [+] {3}

19:41:05 benkay`: fuckin with production hardware again kakobrekla

19:41:15 benkay`: givin me the heebie jeebies

19:41:27 kakobrekla: cmon i always bust balls.

19:41:36 jurov: we should find him a whore

19:41:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00475002 = 0.1663 BTC [-] {3}

19:41:43 kakobrekla: with balls?

19:41:46 jurov: not enough sex -> molests assbot

19:41:49 mircea_popescu: sure. a ballwhore.

19:41:57 kakobrekla: ballwhore, sounds like karpeles.

19:42:11 mircea_popescu: lmao

19:42:15 mircea_popescu: would you do karpeles kakobrekla ?

19:42:26 kakobrekla: i dont think hes got enouff btc

19:42:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00475003 = 0.7363 BTC [+] {2}

19:42:54 mircea_popescu: no no, you're payin'. he's got the tits.

19:43:02 kakobrekla: i can grow my own tits.

19:43:35 mircea_popescu: what, slovenia has a nuclear plant now ?

19:43:43 kakobrekla: man tits.

19:43:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 501 @ 0.000475 = 0.238 BTC [+] {2}

19:43:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 81 @ 0.00476236 = 0.3858 BTC [+] {5}

19:43:46 asciilifeform: for anyone who doesn't know the score re: 's.nsa', i personally only earn anything if the product works as advertised and is well-loved.

19:43:52 kakobrekla: but yes, we have a nuclear pp.

19:44:03 kakobrekla: ;;google kr?ko

19:44:04 gribble: KRKO-AM: http://www.krko.com/; KRKO - North Sound 1380 Everett, WA - Listen Online - TuneIn: http://tunein.com/radio/North-Sound-1380-s35018/; KRKO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KRKO

19:44:04 jurov: nah, eating hormone-fed chicken will do it

19:44:10 kakobrekla: dafuq

19:44:40 kakobrekla: here a wiki link i know you hate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr?ko

19:45:00 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

19:45:01 jurov: unicode fail again

19:45:02 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 548.99, Best ask: 549.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 549.0, 24 hour volume: 51322.07442683, 24 hour low: 514.02, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 574.306706561

19:45:11 kakobrekla: so it seems i have a charset incompatible with myself

19:45:17 jurov: indeed

19:45:41 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 574.306706561 * .7 * 0.00021 * 10**6

19:45:42 gribble: 84423.0858645

19:45:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 223 @ 0.00497399 = 1.1092 BTC [+] {3}

19:45:50 mircea_popescu: you're rich bitch :D

19:46:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.004974 = 1.1987 BTC [+] {4}

19:47:43 mircea_popescu: ;;google slovenia nuclear plant

19:47:44 gribble: Krško Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kr%C5%A1ko_Nuclear_Power_Plant; Nuclear energy in Slovenia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Slovenia; Nuclear Power in Slovenia | Slovenia Nuclear Energy: http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-O-S/Slovenia/

19:47:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00498759 = 6.4839 BTC [+] {9}

19:47:52 mircea_popescu: no fucking way

19:48:13 mircea_popescu: "The plant is a 2-loop Westinghouse pressurized water reactor, with a rated thermal capacity of 1,994 thermal megawatts (MWt) and 696 megawatts-electric"

19:48:15 mircea_popescu: ahahaha okay.

19:48:23 kakobrekla: nuff to grow tits

19:48:42 Vexual: sounds like nub's bong

19:48:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8565 @ 0.00013378 = 1.1458 BTC [-] {12}

19:48:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088262 = 3.6187 BTC [+]

19:49:04 kakobrekla:

19:49:06 mircea_popescu: It runs on [...] demineralized water as the moderator

19:49:10 kakobrekla: bleh

19:49:11 mircea_popescu: check it out... it's basically a skoda.

19:49:36 asciilifeform: more of a ford, no?

19:49:42 benkay`: ;;calc 696/1994

19:49:42 gribble: 0.349047141424

19:49:49 asciilifeform: '... the first western nuclear power plant in eastern Europe'

19:49:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2003 @ 0.00499995 = 10.0149 BTC [+] {3}

19:49:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4436 @ 0.000131 = 0.5811 BTC [-] {2}

19:50:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 268 @ 0.00497648 = 1.3337 BTC [-] {6}

19:50:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 350 @ 0.000818 = 0.2863 BTC [-] {4}

19:51:06 kakobrekla:

19:51:45 mircea_popescu: pretty cool.

19:51:51 mircea_popescu: boroz tito ftw.

19:51:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.004999 = 0.11 BTC [+]

19:52:09 kakobrekla: čžš

19:52:21 kakobrekla: yes?

19:52:30 kakobrekla: seems to work

19:52:41 jurov: yes, now it works

19:52:48 mircea_popescu: works.

19:52:50 kakobrekla: k

19:53:03 jurov: ľščťžýáíéúäôň

19:53:24 mircea_popescu: dudes srsly, learn to language

19:53:28 mircea_popescu: all these shits everywhere.

19:53:28 pankkake: âĉāǎ

19:53:30 jurov: just what i have on my damn keyboard

19:53:43 pankkake: what is your layout like?

19:53:45 mircea_popescu: if god had wanted stupid letters he;d have made them

19:53:47 kakobrekla: you just need Đ for doge.

19:53:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.004851 = 2.9106 BTC [-] {4}

19:54:02 mircea_popescu: Đ is for 8====Đ

19:54:19 asciilifeform: reminds me of a cracked copy of ms-vb i saw as a kid, registered to 'ňäáíé'.

19:54:22 jurov: pankkake they are under 1-9 on US layout

19:54:39 kakobrekla: is that "8 absofuckinglutley the fuckin same as Đ" in php?

19:55:12 pankkake: oh, kinda like azerty French accents. I think it's stupid

19:55:22 jurov: yes it is

19:55:27 pankkake: I am using BÉPO http://bepo.fr/

19:55:47 pankkake: optimized for French but can write a bunch of European characters easily

19:56:06 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yes. also penis.

19:56:22 pankkake: omg it has Ð easily accessible

19:56:31 mircea_popescu: to the moon!

19:56:33 asciilifeform: i thought even the chinese have renounced weirdo keyboards

19:56:38 asciilifeform: in favour of translit-pinyin

19:56:53 kakobrekla: well if you dont have Đ you can also use DŽ

19:56:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 295 @ 0.00498 = 1.4691 BTC [+]

19:57:02 pankkake: and no Ƀ - I only have a <Compose>btc

19:57:17 jurov: dž lolol

19:58:05 pankkake: Dž (titlecase form; all-capitals form DŽ, lowercase dž) is the seventh letter of the Croatian and Bosnian alphabets

19:58:15 pankkake: uh

19:58:18 pankkake: what is going on

19:58:48 jurov: we have "ch" as extra letter

19:59:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2438 @ 0.00088262 = 2.1518 BTC [+]

19:59:00 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's a Ro keyboard like?

19:59:08 pankkake: if I paste it the character is transformed

19:59:13 pankkake: but moreover. it's TWO LETTERS

19:59:19 pankkake: don't call it a letter!! araaahagahg

19:59:20 kakobrekla: yes :)

19:59:37 jurov: duuno why they didn't use "x" proper, nobody takes that seriously anyway

20:01:43 kakobrekla: pankkake > It has a similar sound to the English dg in dodge.

20:01:57 kakobrekla: and those idiots call it dodge coin

20:02:03 pankkake: lol

20:02:05 asciilifeform: ж

20:02:22 kakobrekla: so croatian would say "dođcoin"

20:02:25 pankkake:

20:02:33 jurov: ж isn't ž only?

20:02:39 jurov: not dž ?

20:03:41 kakobrekla: seems more like ž yea

20:03:54 asciilifeform: herr tito, famously: 'Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle... If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.'

20:04:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 220 @ 0.00487712 = 1.073 BTC [+] {6}

20:05:38 kakobrekla: >I was hoping you could point me in the right direction. I see that your company is involved with bitcoin. We are hosting the CryptoCurrency Convention in NYC on April 9th. We wanted to reach out to see if a partnership opportunity would be both appropriate and mutually beneficial.

20:05:45 kakobrekla: jurov got any of taht?

20:06:16 jurov: no, because noobs can't understand what coinbr is about

20:06:27 kakobrekla: heh

20:06:33 jurov: i fear the day when i simplify the frontpage text

20:07:00 jurov: i only get email from vulturescammer and the like

20:07:26 kakobrekla: ok so here is the rest of the pump email

20:07:28 kakobrekla: The event is being held at the Hilton Midtown Manhattan and over 25,000 sq/ ft will be dedicated to exhibits, speakers, attendees and investors.

20:07:28 kakobrekla:

20:07:28 kakobrekla: We have a very wide range of sponsorships and promotional items to suit any appetite and will over-deliver on all of them. VIP Parties, Special Events and Hackathons have also proven to be beneficial beyond branding and exposure. New York City makes anything possible. We are expecting 1500-2000 attendees.

20:07:28 kakobrekla:

20:07:38 kakobrekla: We are looking for support from others like yourself in the CryptoCurrency Ecosystem. Education and exposure is how we all win.

20:07:39 kakobrekla:

20:07:39 kakobrekla: Please take a few moments to look over our and know that we are humbled to be involved with bitcoin and CryptoCurrency so early. The future is bright.

20:07:46 kakobrekla: We believe that CryptoCurrency is the future and the foundation is being set now. We are making a conscious intentional effort to collaborate with other leaders and pioneers such as yourself to bring CryptoCurrency to the people it benefits.

20:07:50 kakobrekla: eof

20:08:05 pankkake: "CryptoCurrency"

20:08:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 77 @ 0.00482746 = 0.3717 BTC [-] {6}

20:08:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i never used one. standard-us my entire lyf.

20:08:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same

20:08:46 mircea_popescu: haha tito @stalin

20:08:48 mircea_popescu: stalin stopped.

20:09:30 kakobrekla: oh yeah and the link www.cryptocurrencyconvention.com

20:09:54 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla who's that ? nobody in particular ?

20:09:56 jurov: Over 275 Coins Available!

20:09:59 jurov: *closes*

20:10:01 kakobrekla: i dont know

20:10:07 kakobrekla: im trying to understand WHY

20:10:11 kakobrekla: and then WHO

20:10:29 jurov: isn't that the dud with 20000 domains?

20:10:37 mircea_popescu: why, cause that's how you become part of bitcoin, holding a derpference.

20:10:56 jurov: they crave exposure, ya know

20:11:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00481915 = 0.2554 BTC [+] {5}

20:12:05 kakobrekla: well if doge party is not coming im split.

20:12:20 mircea_popescu: maybe they can paint a mutt in gold this time

20:13:11 Duffer1: bitcoinpetes post about doge party made me cringe irl

20:13:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 393 @ 0.00477855 = 1.878 BTC [-] {7}

20:13:19 pankkake: *decentralized* doge party

20:13:30 mircea_popescu: dedoged party ?

20:13:44 kakobrekla: dođe party you mean.

20:14:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.004753 = 0.3327 BTC [-]

20:14:41 jurov: lmao i posted that link into #bitcoin.cz (full of altcoin miners)

20:14:47 mircea_popescu: kara-djodje party!

20:14:49 pankkake: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140224132743 that's a shame

20:14:50 jurov: and got immediate response:

20:15:05 jurov: "but doge creator is not listed!"

20:15:37 jurov: so no go

20:15:53 mircea_popescu: The length is stored in an unsigned char type, which will overflow and wrap at 256

20:15:55 mircea_popescu: ahahaha

20:16:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 9981 @ 0.00498825 = 49.7877 BTC [+] {22}

20:16:42 mircea_popescu: 3! 3 major bugs in like forever!

20:17:02 pankkake: so you are punished for being Really Secure with long passwords

20:17:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.005 = 0.195 BTC [+]

20:17:52 pankkake: by the way, there is an enormous amount of websites failing with my passwords. too long(!), characters making the thing explode…

20:17:53 mircea_popescu: "255 chars should be enought for everyone"

20:17:54 jurov: typing in >200 chars passphrase is paranoia

20:18:09 mircea_popescu: anyway, past about 48 characters or so you get no actual further benefit

20:18:19 mircea_popescu: as the hash doesn't carry the entropy iirc.

20:19:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.0050346 = 0.9969 BTC [+] {3}

20:19:44 pankkake: http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=14/02/24/049227

20:19:53 Jere_Jones: The yubikey can hold a static password up to 64 characters long. 200+? 4 yubikeys that you have to use in the right order?

20:20:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00504898 = 0.3282 BTC [+] {3}

20:22:41 nubbins`: ;;seen thestringpuller

20:22:42 gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 12 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> might not be completely your type tho :P (not super model enuff)

20:23:06 nubbins`: okay, so we actually recorded two albums for the RPM challenge

20:23:22 nubbins`: if anyone's interested, i've got one of them available for streaming: https://atelierbleu.bandcamp.com/

20:24:20 nubbins`: jurov, my pgp password is ~100 chars, very cumbersome

20:24:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 333 @ 0.0050099 = 1.6683 BTC [+] {2}

20:25:05 kakobrekla: nubbins` thats the public key you dummy!

20:25:11 nubbins`: heh

20:25:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 688 @ 0.00507543 = 3.4919 BTC [+] {6}

20:25:31 nubbins`: i auth with gribs using my public key? ;(

20:27:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.005099 = 0.1581 BTC [+] {2}

20:29:07 mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7japhRg9F1qaxawwo1_500.jpg

20:29:12 mircea_popescu: "the poor probably need them more thna you do"

20:29:50 nubbins`: sick shoes

20:30:06 nubbins`: heels are L-brackets

20:30:13 mircea_popescu: mhm

20:30:55 nubbins`: also waitaminute how do you know what my ass looks like?!

20:31:16 mircea_popescu: i'm like the nsa

20:31:18 mircea_popescu: except not evil.

20:31:33 nubbins`: the nsa taps phones, not asses

20:31:44 mircea_popescu: Rod you the sirf guy ?

20:31:54 assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1654587/plain/)

20:31:54 pankkake: !b 5 -1

20:32:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 402 @ 0.00509 = 2.0462 BTC [-] {2}

20:32:41 mircea_popescu: meh.

20:33:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00509 = 0.4072 BTC [-] {2}

20:33:59 pankkake: nubbins`: what's the RPM challenge? your thing is weird

20:34:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 317 @ 0.00458829 = 1.4545 BTC [-] {11}

20:34:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00509 = 0.1934 BTC [-]

20:35:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00508 = 0.127 BTC [-]

20:35:37 nubbins`: pankkake, the challenge is to write and record an album entirely in the month of february

20:35:39 mircea_popescu: ello rod

20:35:50 nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPM_Challenge

20:36:06 Rod: hello

20:36:10 mircea_popescu: a there you go!

20:36:17 Rod: yes

20:36:21 mircea_popescu: so i read your sirf piece, and it is exactly what's needed.

20:36:28 nubbins`: it's a popular thing here

20:36:33 Rod: thank you

20:36:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 370 @ 0.0055 = 2.035 BTC

20:36:38 mircea_popescu: so, how do i get you to spend the next decade of your life obsessively covering bitcoin stocks ?

20:36:38 Rod: thank you both

20:36:47 mircea_popescu: we have a shitton of the stuff and it needs you desperately.

20:36:56 mircea_popescu: because most of it is horrendous crap.

20:37:03 Rod: Wow.

20:37:10 Rod: lot of scams in this world?

20:37:12 asciilifeform: what's sirf?

20:37:15 mircea_popescu: rod yes

20:37:22 nubbins`: pretty much 99% scams

20:37:25 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This beauty http://sirf-online.org/2014/02/21/how-to-effortlessly-earn-a-riskless-90-on-your-bitcoins-through-the-magic-of-binary-options-trading-or-the-nigerian-email-con-tries-wall-street/

20:37:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://sirf-online.org/2014/02/21/how-to-effortlessly-earn-a-riskless-90-on-your-bitcoins-through-the-magic-of-binary-options-trading-or-the-nigerian-email-con-tries-wall-street/

20:37:42 Rod: a non-profit investigative reporting foundation. We do document driven financial investigative work

20:37:50 mircea_popescu: Rod so tell you what i'm gonna do. i'll pay you a bitcoin upfront just to show you i mean business.

20:37:54 Rod: Thats for asciilifeform

20:38:39 Rod: Thats generous, no need. getting the story out there, to people I dont see or know, its appreciated enough

20:38:49 mircea_popescu: yes but let me do what i wanna do.

20:39:03 nubbins`: try stomping your foot

20:39:06 mircea_popescu: you're a nonprofit, you can have it there. got a donation address ?

20:39:33 Rod: we have a paypal at sirf-online.org.....

20:39:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 288 @ 0.00507663 = 1.4621 BTC [-] {3}

20:39:41 mircea_popescu: yes well, we hate paypal.

20:39:51 Rod: ok

20:39:58 mircea_popescu: tell you what, get a bitcoin address up for donations, maybe some of these scrooges will sweeten the pot

20:39:59 Rod: i mean no offense to anyone

20:40:10 nubbins`: none taken!

20:40:13 Rod: ok. let me do that.

20:40:22 mircea_popescu: and other than that : here's the channel log : http://bitcoin-assets.com

20:40:30 mircea_popescu: sifting through there you can get AT LEAST a subject a day.

20:40:32 mircea_popescu: going back like a year.

20:40:36 Rod: ok, wow.

20:40:45 mircea_popescu: there is so much you can cover, you will literally not be doing anything else.

20:40:52 Rod: wild west, frontier stuff, eh?

20:41:00 mircea_popescu: there are some other people trying to cover things, but they're you know, doing other things.

20:41:02 mircea_popescu: yes.

20:41:22 Duffer1: people trying to reinvent the wheel and reenact the history of money pretty much daily

20:41:36 mircea_popescu: often with humorous results. often with quite painful results.

20:41:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15814 @ 0.00088234 = 13.9533 BTC [-]

20:41:46 Rod: i am unfamiliar with this world; i feel like a 70 year old guy looking at the moonshot.

20:41:52 mircea_popescu: how old are you ?

20:41:56 Rod: 45

20:42:06 mircea_popescu: you'll be fine, there's people older than you here

20:42:08 Duffer1: do you know how to/need help with setting a bitcoin wallet?

20:42:12 mircea_popescu: course they're petrified of me, but hey.

20:42:36 Rod: of course i get bitcoin, just did not know of the fraud possibilities

20:42:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 290 @ 0.00508 = 1.4732 BTC [+] {2}

20:42:45 pankkake: this channel is basically #bitcoin-curmudgeons

20:42:57 Duffer1: ah so you've never been to bitcointalk.org then? :P

20:42:57 mircea_popescu: o.o

20:43:10 mircea_popescu: Rod so wait, you have a bitcoin wallet then ?

20:43:28 Rod: no i assuredly need help setting up a wallet

20:43:34 mircea_popescu: ah i see.

20:43:47 mircea_popescu: go to blockchain.info, you can set one up in like a minute

20:43:51 Rod: duffer1, I confess i have not

20:43:53 mircea_popescu: do not keep much value there however.

20:44:12 mircea_popescu: getting a proper wallet will require some more downloading and reading, which i encourage you to do, but it will take time.

20:44:16 BingoBoingo: Another good beginner wallet, runs locally https://multibit.org/

20:44:29 Rod: ok

20:44:41 mircea_popescu: ;;google fraudsters bitcoin drama timeline

20:44:42 gribble: The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/; The best investments in the history of Bitcoin pe fraudsters - Un blog de ...: http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-best-investments-in-the-history-of-bitcoin/; Bitcoin pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: http://fraudsters.com/category/bitcoin/

20:44:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.00508 = 0.3048 BTC [+] {2}

20:44:50 mircea_popescu: that first link is a decent primer i guess.

20:44:56 Rod: is there a consensus about which is best for a non-profit like us that is not terribly sophisticated?

20:45:09 Duffer1: on which wallet to use?

20:45:10 mircea_popescu: if you want to autosell your bitcoins you can prolly use bitpay

20:45:21 Rod: yes

20:45:33 mircea_popescu: if youwant to keep them prolly blockchain.info, or sure, multibit.org

20:46:05 nubbins`: +1 for blockchain.info

20:46:07 mircea_popescu: i think bitpay actually pays out to paypal ? not even sure, never used them myself.

20:46:14 Rod: we would probably autosell since we would seek to convert to $

20:46:16 pankkake: (but you will spend a week explaining to bitpay what your nonprofit does :p)

20:46:22 Rod: ok

20:46:28 pankkake: no, bitpay sends bank wires

20:46:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00509 = 0.4988 BTC [+]

20:47:07 nubbins`: neobump

20:47:13 Duffer1: ya probably fastest to get set up on blockchain.info for a wallet address, then start bitpay kyc account procedures probably takes a while

20:47:13 thestringpuller: paperwallets take no time at all

20:47:19 thestringpuller: cold storage = best store of value

20:47:28 mircea_popescu: .d

20:47:31 nubbins`: ^

20:47:39 Rod: ok, so I will set up one up tonight

20:47:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 549 @ 0.00507292 = 2.785 BTC [-] {6}

20:47:48 mircea_popescu: good idea.

20:47:56 thestringpuller: bitcoind is really easy to setup on linux

20:47:58 mircea_popescu: ;;estimate

20:47:59 gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 3756197794.67 based on data since last change | 3964540086.78 based on data for last three days

20:48:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00509512 = 1.0394 BTC [+] {3}

20:48:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 524 @ 0.000475 = 0.2489 BTC [+]

20:49:44 pankkake: does Multibit keep the blockchain on your machine?

20:49:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 296 @ 0.00509512 = 1.5082 BTC [+] {4}

20:50:10 mircea_popescu: pankkake i think it at least tries to

20:50:33 thestringpuller: what's the command for blockchain size

20:50:37 pankkake: that's a thing to now beforehand nowadays. cause you will spend a week downloading 18Gs

20:50:44 pankkake: du -sh ~/.bitcoin

20:50:46 thestringpuller: it's 18G now?

20:50:47 BingoBoingo: pankkake: Multibit is an SPV deal

20:50:54 mircea_popescu: it's about 18 yeah

20:50:58 pankkake: cool, like Electrum so

20:51:14 thestringpuller: pankkake: lol

20:51:25 BingoBoingo: Multibit just tracks inputs and outputs, it doesn't do the client sever thing electrum does though.

20:51:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 228 @ 0.00509512 = 1.1617 BTC [+] {4}

20:52:12 thestringpuller: $ du -sh /home/leflor/.bitcoin/

20:52:13 thestringpuller: 18G /home/leflor/.bitcoin/

20:52:16 thestringpuller: lol

20:52:20 Duffer1: the bootstrap torrent is really fast

20:52:48 pankkake: it is fast, and it has a lot of usage. I'm uploading around ~600kbs/s all the time

20:52:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.00509512 = 1.0547 BTC [+] {2}

20:52:57 BingoBoingo: http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/

20:53:18 nubbins`: cease to be traded

20:53:25 mircea_popescu: that should be interesting

20:53:27 kakobrekla: yeah BingoBoingo , dont take me too seriously.

20:53:31 nubbins`: no kidding

20:53:39 nubbins`: havelock goes down for an hour and the bet resolves as yes

20:53:52 BingoBoingo: ;D

20:54:01 mircea_popescu: nubbins` doesn't seem so.

20:54:15 nubbins`: i kid

20:54:21 nubbins`: glad they said "cease"

20:54:50 mircea_popescu: interestingly mod priced it 6:4

20:54:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00509512 = 0.1936 BTC [+]

20:54:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.49357399 = 2.4679 BTC [+] {5}

20:55:00 pankkake: http://i.imgur.com/XSS1fJn.png 2TB!

20:55:37 mircea_popescu: pankkake you're a good man.

20:55:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.49947444 = 4.4953 BTC [+] {5}

20:55:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00509634 = 0.1835 BTC [+] {2}

20:56:02 pankkake: I hope 0.9 will fix sync though, because the current situation sucks

20:56:44 pankkake: also, I have almost free bandwidth. torrents everywhere on my servers

20:56:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0051 = 0.3978 BTC [+]

20:57:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00509131 = 1.0183 BTC [-] {4}

20:58:32 mircea_popescu: !jd

20:58:32 assbot: Just-Dice stat: 14549 BTC profit, 40.6k BTC invested, 704.34 mio bets, 5.04 mio BTC wagered

20:58:43 pankkake: nubbins`: I liked Mr. Holland's Opiates

20:58:49 nubbins`: tyvm

20:58:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1363 @ 0.00047501 = 0.6474 BTC [+]

20:59:09 nubbins`: our goal was to make an album that would cause children to weep

20:59:53 kakobrekla: seems the volume went quickly to 5mio and now is kinda sluggish ?

20:59:59 kakobrekla: or is it just me

21:00:03 mircea_popescu: kinda

21:00:20 mircea_popescu: i've not been watching it much, other than to marvel in disbelief how the profit just won't revert to normal.

21:00:32 kakobrekla: heh

21:01:24 kakobrekla: everyone is on doge dice nowdays

21:01:59 wao-ender: :D

21:02:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.0051 = 0.5916 BTC [+]

21:02:06 kakobrekla: i guess its cheaper to play martingale

21:02:08 wao-ender: damn, that neobee stocks

21:02:20 mircea_popescu: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/03/03/140303fa_fact_khatchadourian?currentPage=all

21:02:20 wao-ender: it's manipulated, right?

21:02:29 mircea_popescu: check it out! i share articles from march 3, 2014!

21:02:32 kakobrekla: how is it manipulated?

21:02:33 Rod: Mircea, I'm gonna set up a wallet and Ill tweet you when it's done. Probably later this week as I am traveling some over the next few days.

21:02:40 wao-ender: mircea_popescu: time travel has been proven!

21:02:57 Rod: This has been interesting, learned a few things to be sure.

21:02:57 mircea_popescu: rob no problem

21:02:59 wao-ender: kakobrekla: like they investing in their own stocks?

21:03:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 168 @ 0.0051414 = 0.8638 BTC [+]

21:03:06 mircea_popescu: you can drop by any time, too

21:03:14 mircea_popescu: (this is probably the best place to get in touch with me)

21:03:18 Rod: thanks. best to duffer1 and all.

21:03:23 Rod: will do then.

21:03:24 Duffer1: ^.^

21:03:27 wao-ender: c'mon, but they rent some kind big building in that tiny town?

21:03:41 thestringpuller: you must send mircea_popescu one female as tribute though for future questions

21:03:54 mike_c: kakobrekla: volume hit 5m 10 days agao. the line is pretty steady.

21:03:57 mircea_popescu: what am i going to do with more owmenz ?

21:03:57 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: no longer accepts btc as payment, only females

21:04:01 mike_c: https://bitcoinproject.net/justdice.php

21:04:07 mike_c: ^ click 'wagered'

21:04:10 Duffer1: the world would be a better place if Rod started poking BFL and/or ActM

21:04:31 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 whatever he picks, he can be at it until the cows come home

21:04:32 jurov: Duffer1: do they deserve such attention?

21:04:46 Duffer1: probably

21:04:46 kakobrekla: mike_c when i click all it starts at 4.2k

21:04:56 Duffer1: since they're still in business

21:05:01 mike_c: yeah, they started tracking mid october

21:05:28 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

21:05:29 kakobrekla: got a chart from before that?

21:05:33 mike_c: the big bump (and reason they aren't close to EV) was nakowa dumping 1mil in action in september i believe

21:05:34 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 167.0, vol: 95540.83355106 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 541.63, vol: 50366.28562481 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 563.54, vol: 19015.20618 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 548.0, vol: 29382.98207869 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 570.0, vol: 384.26445092 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 583.83016, vol: 13001.30000000 | Volume-weighted last average: 374.896089776

21:05:51 kakobrekla: aha

21:06:02 kakobrekla: so nakowa pumped the stats alone

21:06:02 twizt: lol people still use gox

21:06:03 twizt: ?

21:06:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 332 @ 0.0051414 = 1.7069 BTC [+]

21:06:07 mike_c: he basically broke even (instead of losing his shirt), so they are way below EV

21:06:44 mircea_popescu: twizt there's a bitbet bet about it going under 150

21:06:55 pankkake: wait wasn't mtgox 300 yesterday?

21:06:56 mircea_popescu: probably by now the only point of interest re mtgox left.

21:07:07 mircea_popescu: pankkake yesterday was yesterday.

21:07:19 kakobrekla: i think the size of bets over time would be an interesting metric

21:07:21 nubbins`: http://www.picturesthatigoneanddone.com/product/david-cameron-washing-his-wifes-back

21:07:24 twizt: well i already said it was gonna drop below 100 fwhen it was 900

21:07:25 kakobrekla: average daily bet

21:07:27 twizt: so bang

21:07:30 twizt: didnt make shit off it

21:07:30 kakobrekla: or something

21:07:35 nubbins`: that guy is fucked

21:07:39 nubbins`: i like him

21:07:40 twizt: but <3 my forecasting abilities

21:07:47 diametric: mircea_popescu: so i was looking at that bet, it says "however momentarily", so all it would take is someone to throw up a buy order for 150.1 right?

21:07:48 mircea_popescu: so next time bet.

21:07:50 diametric: and the bet would satisfy yes

21:09:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.0051414 = 0.1954 BTC [+]

21:09:28 kakobrekla: oh there is such metric

21:09:37 mircea_popescu: diametric yeah

21:10:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 71 @ 0.00500008 = 0.355 BTC [-] {3}

21:10:12 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/751/mtgox-out-of-business-in-2014/ << there's also that

21:10:37 diametric: thats also vague

21:10:44 diametric: well the second part is less vague

21:10:56 pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/629/mt-gox-fails-to-list-litecoin/

21:11:05 diametric: thats a good one

21:11:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.0051414 = 0.7095 BTC [+] {2}

21:11:14 nubbins`: leet-o

21:11:19 diametric: theres no way they'd be adding litecoin to the trading engine now.

21:11:25 ThickAsThieves: the title for the NEOBEE bitbet may be leading a bit, what if it just moves to some other exchange?

21:11:47 pankkake: bitbet titles are always kinda trolly

21:11:48 jurov: ThickAsThieves: which one? cryptostocks?

21:11:52 jurov: lel

21:11:57 ThickAsThieves: doesnt matter

21:11:57 nubbins`: heh

21:12:00 wao-ender: http://bitbet.us/bet/762/neobee-orphaned-in-2014/

21:12:02 wao-ender: jurov: ^

21:12:08 jurov: i know

21:12:09 nubbins`: just because you have foster parents doesn't mean you're not an orphan.

21:12:30 kakobrekla: is cypertrade up yet

21:12:35 kakobrekla: or whats that shemale up to

21:12:56 Duffer1: few weeks till launch

21:13:02 ThickAsThieves: wouldnt the parents be LMB though?

21:13:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 129 @ 0.0051414 = 0.6632 BTC [+]

21:13:27 jurov: did LMB put 9k btc in?

21:13:34 nubbins`: not sure there's such a thing as a perfect analogy here

21:13:48 ThickAsThieves: doesnt need an analogy for my point anyway

21:14:01 *: nubbins` nods

21:14:08 nubbins`: title is indeed a poor fit

21:14:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.0001626 = 0.1854 BTC [+] {7}

21:15:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.0001639 = 0.1868 BTC [+]

21:15:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 195 @ 0.00514223 = 1.0027 BTC [+] {2}

21:19:05 nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485033.0

21:19:06 nubbins`: heh

21:20:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00514899 = 0.2986 BTC [-] {2}

21:21:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12944875 = 0.3883 BTC [-] {2}

21:21:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1140 @ 0.00014197 = 0.1618 BTC [-] {6}

21:21:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.5 = 13 BTC [+]

21:21:49 mike_c: kakobrekla: not over time, but: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242962.msg4702939#msg4702939

21:22:16 kakobrekla: cool thanks mike_c

21:22:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 437 @ 0.00514899 = 2.2501 BTC [-] {2}

21:22:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00486996 = 0.2094 BTC [+]

21:22:39 diametric: scammers gonna scam.

21:23:03 mircea_popescu: later all.

21:23:19 kakobrekla: enjoy

21:23:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12944877 BTC [+]

21:24:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 170 @ 0.0008638 = 0.1468 BTC [+]

21:24:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 772 @ 0.005149 = 3.975 BTC [-] {3}

21:25:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 128 @ 0.005149 = 0.6591 BTC [-] {3}

21:26:03 nubbins`: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/3305

21:26:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.10622499 = 0.4249 BTC [-] {4}

21:27:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.10841922 = 1.4094 BTC [+] {6}

21:27:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00514793 = 0.4993 BTC [-] {2}

21:27:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.48107001 = 4.8107 BTC [-] {3}

21:28:06 nubbins`: oh, karplel resigned from the foundation?

21:28:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.48035177 = 6.7249 BTC [-] {5}

21:28:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00515 = 0.2987 BTC [+]

21:29:00 kakobrekla: yup

21:29:03 kakobrekla: prolly kicked out

21:29:11 kakobrekla: you know, 'resigned'

21:29:14 nubbins`: yeah

21:29:18 nubbins`: tendered his resignation

21:30:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 241 @ 0.00513207 = 1.2368 BTC [-] {3}

21:30:40 KRS-One: Excuse me for a moment.

21:30:41 KRS-One: .bait

21:30:42 ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/0e8d30b7a79913e2208693fcd0dcb1a7/tumblr_mp9r688EMj1rvyg98o1_500.jpg

21:30:51 KRS-One: ahh..ty...bbl

21:30:55 KRS-One: fap fap

21:30:56 mike_c: this bet should have been weightless

21:30:57 mike_c: http://bitbet.us/bet/760/kuka-table-tennis-robot-to-beat-human/

21:30:59 ozbot: BitBet - Kuka table tennis robot to beat human

21:31:18 kakobrekla: i agree

21:32:02 kakobrekla: at least its at 50k

21:32:18 kakobrekla: the end weight, i mean.

21:32:29 mike_c: yeah. but still can't get decent odds on it anymore.

21:32:36 mike_c: i don't have a strong enough opinion to fade the weight.

21:33:03 mike_c: should be fun to watch though.

21:33:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 490 @ 0.00514003 = 2.5186 BTC [-] {9}

21:34:06 kakobrekla: yep

21:35:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.0050953 = 1.5694 BTC [-] {8}

21:36:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00502 = 0.502 BTC [-] {2}

21:37:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00519973 = 0.4992 BTC [+] {2}

21:38:10 Jere_Jones: mike_c "fade the weight"? What does that mean?

21:38:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 182 @ 0.00511819 = 0.9315 BTC [-] {7}

21:38:49 mike_c: um.. here's a bad definition: http://sportsgambling.about.com/od/generalterms/g/fade.htm

21:39:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00503697 = 0.5037 BTC [-] {3}

21:39:39 mike_c: it basically means i can't give up the odds the weight is laying. the weight being the decreasing odds that bitbets offer as the bet goes on

21:40:05 Jere_Jones: ok

21:40:26 kakobrekla: basically on bets that you perceive close to 50:50 it only makes sense to bet when the weight is high or the yes to no ratio skewed badly

21:40:58 Jere_Jones: That makes sense

21:41:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00528999 = 0.4761 BTC [+]

21:42:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 159 @ 0.005288 = 0.8408 BTC [-] {4}

21:43:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00529 = 0.4761 BTC [+]

21:44:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.125 BTC [-]

21:44:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 192 @ 0.00529 = 1.0157 BTC [+] {2}

21:45:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.102 BTC [-]

21:46:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1107 @ 0.00529396 = 5.8604 BTC [+] {3}

21:48:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1010101 BTC [-]

21:49:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0053794 = 0.4304 BTC [+] {2}

21:51:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00538242 = 0.1884 BTC [+] {2}

21:52:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 274 @ 0.00537932 = 1.4739 BTC [-] {3}

21:54:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 186 @ 0.00539 = 1.0025 BTC [+]

21:55:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 394 @ 0.00539 = 2.1237 BTC [+] {4}

21:56:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 312 @ 0.00539048 = 1.6818 BTC [+] {3}

21:56:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC

21:57:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 569 @ 0.00538789 = 3.0657 BTC [-] {3}

21:59:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 533 @ 0.00539 = 2.8729 BTC [+] {3}

22:00:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 385 @ 0.00539561 = 2.0773 BTC [+] {5}

22:02:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.12944885 = 1.9417 BTC [+]

22:04:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.00539315 = 2.7235 BTC [-] {4}

22:04:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00088262 = 13.1069 BTC [+]

22:06:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.00539427 = 0.6527 BTC [+] {3}

22:08:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00540561 = 0.2054 BTC [+] {2}

22:09:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.0054888 = 0.1208 BTC [+]

22:09:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 783 @ 0.0005 = 0.3915 BTC [+] {3}

22:11:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1969 @ 0.00548967 = 10.8092 BTC [+] {8}

22:11:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15813 @ 0.00088229 = 13.9517 BTC [-] {2}

22:12:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00548983 = 0.2745 BTC [+] {2}

22:12:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 531 @ 0.00050098 = 0.266 BTC [+] {2}

22:13:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.005491 = 0.2746 BTC [+] {2}

22:14:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC

22:14:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 208 @ 0.0054916 = 1.1423 BTC [+] {4}

22:15:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00088154 = 35.0412 BTC [-] {5}

22:15:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 285 @ 0.00549989 = 1.5675 BTC [+] {5}

22:16:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12944885 = 0.2589 BTC [+]

22:16:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 445 @ 0.00549988 = 2.4474 BTC [-] {3}

22:16:42 Jere_Jones: https://www.lmb-holdings.com/transfer-shares/transer-havelock/ is misspelled

22:16:43 ozbot: LMB Subsidiaries Ltd. :: Transfer to Havelock

22:17:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1227 @ 0.00545819 = 6.6972 BTC [-] {7}

22:18:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 93 @ 0.00549978 = 0.5115 BTC [+] {5}

22:19:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00549 = 0.2745 BTC [-]

22:19:25 ThickAsThieves: thx

22:19:33 Jere_Jones: np

22:20:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 198 @ 0.00549 = 1.087 BTC [-] {2}

22:21:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 293 @ 0.00539001 = 1.5793 BTC [-]

22:22:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 365 @ 0.00539 = 1.9674 BTC [-]

22:23:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1220 @ 0.00543917 = 6.6358 BTC [+] {5}

22:25:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00549 = 0.4502 BTC [+]

22:26:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.005385 = 0.1454 BTC [-]

22:27:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.12725555 = 1.1453 BTC [-] {3}

22:28:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.005385 = 0.1669 BTC [-] {2}

22:34:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00549 = 0.6314 BTC [+] {3}

22:35:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00549 = 2.196 BTC [+]

22:36:34 kakobrekla: !t h neobee

22:36:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00319950 / 0.00421939 / 0.00549989 (154736 shares, 652.89206160 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.0038483 / 0.00549989 (239039 shares, 919.89314653 BTC), 30D: 0.00257150 / 0.0035176 / 0.00549989 (373079 shares, 1312.34442293 BTC)

22:42:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 246 @ 0.00549099 = 1.3508 BTC [+] {3}

22:43:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 19 @ 0.00549 = 0.1043 BTC [-] {2}

22:44:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0609 = 0.4263 BTC [+]

22:45:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00549 = 0.3678 BTC [-] {2}

22:46:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 135 @ 0.00549 = 0.7412 BTC [-] {2}

22:47:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 959 @ 0.00533258 = 5.1139 BTC [-] {13}

22:48:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 505 @ 0.0053 = 2.6765 BTC [-]

22:48:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00087541 = 7.0033 BTC [-]

22:48:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1175 @ 0.0055 = 6.4625 BTC

22:50:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00529999 = 0.6254 BTC [-] {2}

22:50:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12699987 = 0.508 BTC [-]

22:51:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12699988 BTC [+]

22:51:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 287 @ 0.00522753 = 1.5003 BTC [-] {4}

22:52:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.0051 = 0.3876 BTC [-] {4}

22:55:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12699988 = 0.254 BTC [+]

22:55:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 30 @ 0.0055 = 0.165 BTC

22:56:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 137 @ 0.00510365 = 0.6992 BTC [-] {8}

22:57:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00502448 = 4.0196 BTC [-] {5}

22:58:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 469 @ 0.00504603 = 2.3666 BTC [+] {7}

22:59:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.127 = 0.254 BTC [+]

22:59:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.005 = 0.125 BTC [-]

23:00:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.005 = 0.3 BTC [-]

23:01:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12699999 = 0.381 BTC [-]

23:02:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 361 @ 0.00496998 = 1.7942 BTC [-] {5}

23:03:59 Bugpowderr: kakobrekla: got the chart

23:04:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 602 @ 0.0048072 = 2.8939 BTC [-] {11}

23:04:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12889999 = 0.2578 BTC [+]

23:05:53 peterl: looks like neobee is entering the 'dump' stage of the pump and dump

23:06:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00469 = 0.4456 BTC [-]

23:07:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1321 @ 0.00457547 = 6.0442 BTC [-] {11}

23:08:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.004505 = 0.1577 BTC [-]

23:09:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2010 @ 0.00402312 = 8.0865 BTC [-] {10}

23:09:09 kakobrekla: anything interesting ?

23:09:53 Bugpowderr: yes but I need more data now

23:10:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 800 @ 0.00401 = 3.208 BTC [-]

23:10:43 kakobrekla: anything reasonable?

23:11:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.10855 = 0.2171 BTC [+] {2}

23:12:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1065 @ 0.00400222 = 4.2624 BTC [-] {4}

23:13:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00400666 = 1.0017 BTC [+] {2}

23:13:52 Bugpowderr: Sorry doing an experiment

23:14:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 162 @ 0.004 = 0.648 BTC [-] {2}

23:15:04 Bugpowderr: The address at one point moves 437,000 BTC, then bifurcates that several times into smaller addresses, some of which eventually get returned to the green address. Let's call these putative cold storage addresses.

23:15:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.06089999 = 0.1218 BTC [+]

23:15:30 Bugpowderr: How do I do that ghost thing so I can get my nick back?

23:17:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]

23:18:39 Bugpowderr: http://imgur.com/a/rzLCu

23:18:39 ozbot: Gox Analysis - Imgur

23:21:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 500 @ 0.0008214 = 0.4107 BTC [-] {2}

23:21:23 Jere_Jones: Does that mean that about half the original btc are sitting roughly 2 hops away from the green address?

23:21:49 Jere_Jones: nm. I, apparently, can't read a label.

23:22:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4211 @ 0.00087541 = 3.6864 BTC [-]

23:23:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00439 = 0.1493 BTC [-]

23:23:21 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]

23:23:23 ThickAsThieves: not sure how to read that chart, does it need a timeline?

23:23:48 Bugpowderr: kakobrekla: I need a JSON of all transactions that have 1 input and two outputs from block 156631 thru 156900.

23:24:07 Bugpowderr: ThickAsThieves: the x axis is a timeline (in transaction #)

23:24:07 kakobrekla: k

23:24:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1036 @ 0.00414564 = 4.2949 BTC [-] {12}

23:24:22 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]

23:24:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4805 BTC [+]

23:24:27 ThickAsThieves: transaction qty, or #

23:24:49 Bugpowderr: Then we can see all the putative cold storage addresses, and how many eventually pour back into the green address

23:25:16 ThickAsThieves: so what's to be gleaned so far?

23:25:17 kakobrekla: em, you mean all from that list or all tx on the network

23:25:19 Bugpowderr: ThickAsThieves: sequential... I will replot it based on block ID

23:25:22 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]

23:26:15 Bugpowderr: kakobrekla: I mean for the network.... Is there a tool I can use to scrape this out of the block chain data myself?

23:26:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12889999 BTC [+]

23:26:25 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]

23:26:45 kakobrekla: well any blockchain parser is such tool

23:27:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48001 BTC [-]

23:27:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12889999 = 0.2578 BTC [+]

23:27:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 88 @ 0.004389 = 0.3862 BTC [+] {2}

23:27:31 Bugpowderr: ok I will try to figure that out... Doing lots of stuff at the moment

23:27:51 Bugpowderr: Anyway... That block range is the key block range I think MtGox set up their cold addresses in.

23:28:08 kakobrekla: i pinged my bois, mebbe ill get a reply tomorro

23:28:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 509 @ 0.00403844 = 2.0556 BTC [-] {5}

23:28:26 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 100 @ 0.0021 = 0.21 BTC [+]

23:29:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00438062 = 0.3504 BTC [+] {3}

23:30:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00439999 = 0.154 BTC [+] {2}

23:31:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00439971 = 1.0999 BTC [-] {3}

23:31:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12699998 = 0.381 BTC [-]

23:32:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 307 @ 0.00439826 = 1.3503 BTC [-] {3}

23:33:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.0044 = 0.1364 BTC [+] {3}

23:34:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00469999 = 0.47 BTC [+] {2}

23:35:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00088076 = 11.7141 BTC [+]

23:35:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 247 @ 0.00450259 = 1.1121 BTC [-] {6}

23:37:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12699998 = 0.254 BTC [-]

23:39:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0049 = 0.245 BTC [+]

23:40:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 430 @ 0.00490894 = 2.1108 BTC [+] {3}

23:40:52 Bugpowderr: ThickAsThieves: Updated http://imgur.com/a/rzLCu

23:41:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00497435 = 0.194 BTC [+] {3}

23:42:02 ThickAsThieves: what amount of confidence do you have, after your next set of data processing, in fully identifying all of gox's coins

23:42:10 Bugpowderr: 0%

23:42:14 ThickAsThieves: hehe

23:42:21 Bugpowderr: There is no way to be sure

23:42:29 ThickAsThieves: i suppose you cna only prove they DO have them with some confidence

23:42:31 ThickAsThieves: not that they dont

23:42:34 Bugpowderr: but we can see if there are some patterns and get a feeling for it

23:42:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.005 = 0.7 BTC [+]

23:42:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2416 @ 0.00088147 = 2.1296 BTC [+]

23:43:01 Bugpowderr: and there is a very clear pattern starting here https://blockchain.info/tx/478ea915aa3a2e54503c43e1c5659722b42a784412423a05394c83a44affb805

23:43:21 ThickAsThieves: a pattern showing what?

23:43:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.005 = 0.12 BTC [+]

23:44:05 Bugpowder: A repeated and quick bifurcation of funds

23:44:27 Bugpowder: addresses getting cut in half 5 of 6 times, then sitting for a while, some going back into the green address.

23:44:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 436 @ 0.00495229 = 2.1592 BTC [-] {3}

23:44:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28864 @ 0.00088258 = 25.4748 BTC [+] {2}

23:46:24 ThickAsThieves: why would they do that?

23:46:44 ThickAsThieves: i cna understand breaking it up into other wallets, by why go back to the green one?

23:47:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00494999 = 0.2475 BTC [-]

23:48:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19972 @ 0.00088147 = 17.6047 BTC [-]

23:49:43 Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: To top up the withdrawals? Maybe the green address is their hot wallet?

23:50:22 *: nubbins` scratches head

23:50:51 nubbins`: but why bifurcate 5 times on the way from cold to hot?

23:51:50 ThickAsThieves: only reason to split is security right?

23:52:47 Bugpowder: kakobrekla: I think I can scrape the specific blocks I need from block chain.info

23:52:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00494999 = 0.1732 BTC [-] {3}

23:53:04 nubbins`: so they're taking a huge cold wallet and splitting it into several smaller cold wallets and one hot wallet

23:53:13 Bugpowder: nubbins`: Correct

23:53:28 Bugpowder: more like a huge hot wallet and splitting into many cold

23:53:35 *: nubbins` nods

23:53:38 nubbins`: right, sure

23:53:38 Bugpowder: which occasionally get pushed back to the hot

23:53:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18275 @ 0.00016906 = 3.0896 BTC [+] {10}

23:57:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8303 @ 0.00019433 = 1.6135 BTC [+] {12}