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00:04:46 dignork: nubbins`: well, the key is also somewhat questionable, but signed text contains links, formatted as html etc. no way to verify sig really.

00:05:14 dignork: anyway it's only marginally interesting :)

00:29:56 nubbins`: :D

00:29:58 nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=623050.0

00:29:58 assbot: Casascius coins for sale: 2013 brass, silver; 2011 brass

00:42:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 220 @ 0.00093385 = 0.2054 BTC [+]

01:04:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23910 @ 0.0009339 = 22.3295 BTC [+] {2}

01:53:30 dub: apparently activemining has been the victim of; personal attacks (including death threats) against the CEO, greedy and manipulating FUD, relentless trolling, viscous personal attacks on people's character and downright badness.

01:54:33 dub: yes viscous personal attacks

01:55:55 dub: http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/moochie_bean/Gif%20Stock/hangover-gif-2.gif

01:56:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47500008 = 2.375 BTC [+] {2}

02:13:01 asciilifeform: http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20110705/640/in_soviet_russia_640_17.jpg

02:23:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00093121 = 30.7299 BTC [-] {3}

02:24:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [-]

02:25:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.11887774 = 1.0699 BTC [+] {5}

02:40:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00092748 = 28.1026 BTC [-] {3}

02:54:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 25 @ 0.02299992 = 0.575 BTC [+] {2}

03:02:23 benkay: ;;ticker

03:02:24 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.01, Best ask: 518.18, Bid-ask spread: 2.17000, Last trade: 516.01, 24 hour volume: 17735.72693028, 24 hour low: 516.01, 24 hour high: 547.1, 24 hour vwap: 530.093943421

03:07:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 73 @ 0.00267554 = 0.1953 BTC [-] {10}

03:09:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.034 = 0.17 BTC [-]

03:20:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73900 @ 0.00093394 = 69.0182 BTC [+] {2}

03:21:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.0009269 = 22.8481 BTC [-] {2}

03:41:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0975 = 1.0725 BTC [+]

03:41:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 14 @ 0.0397 = 0.5558 BTC [-]

04:11:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0345 = 0.1725 BTC [+]

04:39:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36024 @ 0.00092797 = 33.4292 BTC [+] {2}

05:13:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00092718 = 26.7028 BTC [-] {2}

05:15:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29917 @ 0.00092877 = 27.786 BTC [+]

05:20:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 36 @ 0.00562245 = 0.2024 BTC [+] {5}

05:51:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 41 @ 0.00250663 = 0.1028 BTC [+] {8}

05:59:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 21 @ 0.0397 = 0.8337 BTC [-] {2}

06:11:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.00092636 = 29.6898 BTC [-] {2}

06:26:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

06:28:25 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/hashfast-court-update/

06:40:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 19 @ 0.039798 = 0.7562 BTC [+]

06:41:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0975 = 0.78 BTC [+]

06:44:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.47002868 = 4.2303 BTC [-] {9}

06:48:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00092778 = 11.3189 BTC [+]

06:51:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00092778 = 23.6584 BTC [+]

06:58:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1826 @ 0.00092877 = 1.6959 BTC [+]

07:07:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7007 @ 0.00092877 = 6.5079 BTC [+]

07:08:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.12000001 BTC [+]

07:30:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00093343 = 35.5637 BTC [+] {2}

07:42:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 32 @ 0.03880405 = 1.2417 BTC [-] {5}

07:43:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0387 = 0.387 BTC [-]

07:44:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.02309994 = 0.6468 BTC [+] {2}

07:46:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02309982 = 0.1155 BTC [-]

08:01:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 38 @ 0.02337368 = 0.8882 BTC [+] {2}

08:07:29 kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26apno/bitstamp_will_not_process_withdrawal_unless_you/

08:07:30 assbot: Bitstamp will not process withdrawal unless you prove the source of every coin you've ever traded on their exchange. : Bitcoin

08:22:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 326 @ 0.00078971 = 0.2574 BTC [-] {2}

08:22:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 69 @ 0.00561092 = 0.3872 BTC [-] {3}

08:43:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 24 @ 0.11412685 = 2.739 BTC [-] {7}

08:43:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3834 @ 0.00093449 = 3.5828 BTC [+]

09:15:38 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 306 @ 0.00262291 = 0.8026 BTC [+]

09:20:17 fluffypony: dub: I wonder how long it's going to be till Ken Slaughter pulls a Danny and skips the country because of threats?

09:24:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.00011143 = 1.6715 BTC [-] {13}

09:25:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]

09:31:05 pankkake: one of his cheerleaders also invented the "death threats" yesterday

09:31:25 pankkake: he blamed his failure to have chips on a "troll"

09:32:40 pankkake: and used it as a way to never release proof of new things he was claiming to do

09:33:15 fluffypony: lol

09:59:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2637 @ 0.00093449 = 2.4643 BTC [+]

10:05:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42800 @ 0.00093452 = 39.9975 BTC [+] {2}

10:10:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00093522 = 21.9777 BTC [+] {2}

10:13:30 punkman: good morning

10:13:41 punkman: MP goes away, the logs dry up, for shame

10:13:43 fluffypony: mornings

10:14:23 punkman: !up KRS1

10:14:51 punkman: !up lnostdal

10:15:19 lnostdal: uhm, hi ...i guess

10:15:41 punkman: hello ;)

10:20:39 punkman: just saw an ad for this https://updown.bt/

10:20:40 assbot: UpDown

10:21:58 kakobrekla: someone audited their planes in the air thingy and got suspicious results

10:28:19 punkman: would be interesting if they had something other than noise/random, and more than 60 seconds

10:28:25 punkman: 60 min sounds better

10:28:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8460 @ 0.00093145 = 7.8801 BTC [-]

10:28:58 kakobrekla: https://scontent-a-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10382650_632860556807257_7676642260599648159_n.jpg

10:43:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2433 @ 0.00093145 = 2.2662 BTC [-]

10:52:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7978 @ 0.00092911 = 7.4124 BTC [-]

10:53:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10322 @ 0.0009279 = 9.5778 BTC [-]

11:03:31 punkman: ;;tblb 3600

11:03:32 gribble: The expected time between blocks taking 1 hour and 0 seconds to generate is 2 days, 18 hours, 48 minutes, and 4 seconds

11:03:43 punkman: ;;tblb 7200

11:03:43 gribble: The expected time between blocks taking 2 hours and 0 seconds to generate is 3 years, 2 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes, and 36 seconds

11:04:54 punkman: ;;baratio

11:04:54 gribble: Bitstamp | Total bids: 11188128 USD. Total asks: 14820 BTC. Ratio: 754.91616 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0967 seconds

11:10:46 kakobrekla: punkman maybe its mike_c's game you are looking for

11:12:24 punkman: kakobrekla: what's that

11:14:47 kakobrekla: perhaps best if you talk to him directly

11:18:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00092777 = 18.5554 BTC [-] {3}

11:23:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23397 @ 0.00092705 = 21.6902 BTC [-]

11:34:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33541 @ 0.00092767 = 31.115 BTC [+] {2}

11:41:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.022 = 0.11 BTC [-]

11:42:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0338851 = 0.1694 BTC [-] {2}

11:42:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14059 @ 0.00093236 = 13.108 BTC [+]

11:44:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.033885 = 0.3389 BTC [-]

11:45:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.022 = 0.11 BTC [-]

11:48:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.114 BTC [-]

11:48:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 39 @ 0.03871548 = 1.5099 BTC [+] {8}

11:49:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [+] {2}

12:04:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11491 @ 0.00092855 = 10.67 BTC [-]

12:19:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17595 @ 0.00092983 = 16.3604 BTC [+]

12:19:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.02330769 = 0.303 BTC [+] {3}

12:23:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0345 = 0.1035 BTC [+] {3}

12:36:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03461428 = 0.2423 BTC [+] {3}

12:37:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03525 = 0.3525 BTC [+] {2}

12:38:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0225001 = 0.225 BTC [-]

12:39:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225001 = 0.1125 BTC [-]

12:40:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.03561428 = 0.2493 BTC [+] {2}

12:41:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0225001 = 0.225 BTC [-]

12:42:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.034 = 0.17 BTC [-]

12:56:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0225001 = 0.225 BTC [-]

12:57:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.034 = 0.34 BTC [-] {2}

12:57:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 42 @ 0.0055901 = 0.2348 BTC [-] {2}

12:58:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26011 @ 0.00093149 = 24.229 BTC [+]

12:58:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055901 = 0.1118 BTC [-]

12:59:01 fluffypony: punkman: what do you do for work?

13:04:19 punkman: fluffypony: these days I'm writing code, plumbing data, tech documentation, some research

13:04:45 fluffypony: punkman: what's your C / C++ like?

13:05:20 punkman: can't do much there

13:05:22 fluffypony: lol

13:05:39 fluffypony: hard to find competent C/C++ people nowadays

13:05:52 fluffypony: those that are around prefer embedded systems

13:08:44 punkman: you wanna make fluffycoins?

13:09:11 fluffypony: no, just have pieces of work that need doing

13:21:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7847 @ 0.00093149 = 7.3094 BTC [+] {2}

13:23:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.4611819 = 5.073 BTC [-] {11}

13:24:45 artifexd: fluffypony: What do you need?

13:25:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.039415 = 0.3153 BTC [+] {2}

13:26:45 fluffypony: artifexd: a beer, but it's too early

13:26:46 fluffypony: :-P

13:29:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12301 @ 0.00093149 = 11.4583 BTC [+]

13:30:26 BingoBoingo: Behold the suck: http://www.coindesk.com/preview-new-multibit-hd-bitcoin-wallet/

13:30:27 assbot: Up Close With the New MultiBit HD Bitcoin Wallet

13:31:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.00457 = 0.16 BTC [-]

13:32:11 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: why are there pictures of pizza in the slideshow

13:32:39 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Because more than one thing sucks when CoinDesk writes about Multibit going to shit.

13:32:56 fluffypony: they just link it to their flickr stream

13:32:58 fluffypony: that's lazy

13:33:31 fluffypony: "meaning that you will be able to regain access to addresses created by MultiBit HD with a single ‘seed’ passphrase." - oh nice, so basically what Electrum has had for, what, 2 years?

13:34:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.03949125 = 0.158 BTC [+] {2}

13:36:19 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Sure, but I liked the old Multibit random wallet. That and electrum made a nice pair providing different kinds of addresses for different purposes.

13:36:39 fluffypony: spose

13:36:50 fluffypony: losing privkeys in multibit isn't a great feature

13:37:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 84 @ 0.0975 = 8.19 BTC [+]

13:39:12 BingoBoingo: Nah, it only created new random addresses when you prompted it to.

13:39:27 BingoBoingo: Which made it the standard for running single address wallets.

13:40:08 BingoBoingo: Then every version after 0.5.11 got shittier.

13:40:28 pankkake: http://www.coindesk.com/price-ripple-xrp-plummets-co-founde-9-billion-selloff/ if case somebody missed the lol

13:40:28 assbot: Price of Ripple Plummets as Co-Founder Plans 9 Billion XRP Exit

13:43:07 pankkake: http://www.coindesk.com/circle-addresses-monetization-question-teases-future-products/ for another lol

13:43:08 assbot: Circle Addresses Monetization Question, Teases Future Products

13:43:15 pankkake: actually, most of latest coindesk articles

13:43:23 pankkake: “We’re interested in the long-term value of digital money, not optimizing for minor short-term profit.”

13:44:22 BingoBoingo: I'm wondering when the heard will start calling out CoinDesk for constantly leading them over the cliff into the jaws of a Manul like a bunch of lemmings

13:44:55 BingoBoingo: Also Ebay really sucks at security http://it.slashdot.org/story/14/05/24/1334243/severe-vulnerability-at-ebays-website

13:44:56 assbot: Severe Vulnerability At eBay's Website - Slashdot

13:44:57 pankkake: I don't know, coindesk doesn't seem overly enthusiast about those things

13:45:28 BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well, they've tempered the slightest bit since enthusiastically hyping inputs.io

13:45:29 pankkake: ebay's website feels like legacy code on top of legacy code

13:45:39 BingoBoingo: The AMazon problem

13:46:36 pankkake: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundation-4-million-spends-150000-each-month/

13:46:37 assbot: Bitcoin Foundation Holds $4 Million in Bitcoin, Spends $150,000 Each Month

13:49:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48464716 = 1.4539 BTC [+] {2}

13:50:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48464749 BTC [+]

13:51:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48882592 BTC [+]

13:52:03 BingoBoingo: pankkake: I'm kind of doubting we'll see $10,000 BTC while they are solvent.

13:52:30 pankkake: hopefully

13:55:24 Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats

13:55:26 gribble: Current Blocks: 302416 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 1999 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 13 hours, 19 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9871192145.72 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.59051

13:55:45 Mats_cd03: Hohoho

13:59:54 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

14:00:00 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 522.52, vol: 11814.66616877 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 513.657, vol: 7210.55587 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 525.0, vol: 10496.24282924 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 525.0, vol: 65.71557037 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 521.56811, vol: 4601.66700000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 525.92159, vol: 5.34193452 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 524.72774, vol: 55.74181329 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

14:00:06 BingoBoingo: ;;more

14:00:06 gribble: 521.295105681

14:03:23 fluffypony: pankkake: so even if he only has half of his 9 billion XRP left that's still a cool US $15 million

14:03:24 fluffypony: lol

14:05:07 pankkake: assuming there's a market for those

14:15:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.0975 = 1.4625 BTC [+]

14:17:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0975 = 0.4875 BTC [+]

14:20:51 artifexd: ;;ident fluffypony

14:20:51 gribble: Nick 'fluffypony', with hostmask 'fluffypony!~fluffypon@geartri.be', is identified as user 'fluffypony', with GPG key id 7455C5E3C0CDCEB9, key fingerprint BDA6BD7042B721C467A9759D7455C5E3C0CDCEB9, and bitcoin address 1FAvFCgXBmJ4uV3p1NFzWkkyndH7FJ6Vzx

14:30:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 71 @ 0.00249148 = 0.1769 BTC [+] {5}

14:50:43 bitcoinpete: punkman: MP goes away, the logs dry up, for shame << meh, he writes 300+ lines/day. if we're doing 1,000 - 1,200 in his absence, we're doing nicely

14:51:00 bitcoinpete: and howdy!

14:52:49 bitcoinpete: ;;later tell nubbins i have a couple of the lealana physical coins (2x10, 2x25) but i'm having a hard time figuring out what they're worth. could you point me in the right direction?

14:52:50 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:53:12 bitcoinpete: ;;later tell nubbins`i have a couple of the lealana physical coins (2x10, 2x25) but i'm having a hard time figuring out what they're worth. could you point me in the right direction?

14:53:16 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:53:33 bitcoinpete: stupid hash/dash/slash

14:53:48 peterl: note that just as MP leaves, the price of bitcoins jumps up. He was the one holding down the price all this time!

14:53:52 nubbins`: tab-complete, bru

14:54:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00093492 = 3.6929 BTC [+] {2}

14:54:20 nubbins`: i don't deal in physical cryptos beyond casascius

14:54:33 nubbins`: check the goods and auctions subforums on btctalk, and then check ebay

14:54:43 nubbins`: aim for somewhere in the middle :D

14:55:25 bitcoinpete: there seems to be a decent number of the 10s for sale. pretty much zero 25s

14:55:45 nubbins`: that bodes well

14:56:38 nubbins`: 25s are a bit harder to move because not everybody has (25* [ticker --last]) in spare change to blow on a coin

14:56:57 bitcoinpete: one of the few i've seen listed anywhere was here: http://merlinsmint.com

14:56:57 assbot: Merlins Mint | The Future of Money

14:57:00 nubbins`: it's squarely in the realm of "luxury item" :)

14:57:03 bitcoinpete: dude is asking £2,184.00

14:57:07 bitcoinpete: lol

14:57:18 bitcoinpete: ya

14:57:47 nubbins`: lel

14:58:05 nubbins`: he's also asking #30k for a 5btc casascius and #34k for a 25btc casascius

14:58:19 nubbins`: y'know, sensible :(

14:58:43 nubbins`: can't trust sites like that. "i am asking for this much money" != "it is worth this much money"

14:58:51 nubbins`: even ebay is a poor barometer in this regard

14:59:44 bitcoinpete: ya ebay doesn't have much

14:59:52 bitcoinpete: i even tried litecointalk w/o much success

15:01:19 nubbins`: if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for em?

15:02:06 BingoBoingo: I imagine physical lite coins might suffer a bit of a discount over C's bitcoins do the their creator, Smoothie's righteous trolling

15:02:39 nubbins`: i'm wary of non-casascius coins in general

15:02:43 bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: what righteous trolling was this?

15:02:51 nubbins`: there are soooooooooooo many different kinds of physical coins out there now

15:03:04 nubbins`: and i doubt any of them have lasting value

15:03:26 bitcoinpete: nubbins`: i think it was around 200 ltc for the lot

15:04:14 bitcoinpete: ;;calc 200*0.033

15:04:14 gribble: 6.6

15:04:23 bitcoinpete: which was around 6.6 btc at the time

15:04:44 nubbins`: ;;calc 6.6*[ticker]

15:04:45 gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

15:05:10 BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: A lot of it was directed at BFL, it is one of the better parts of forum history

15:05:12 nubbins`: honestly can't be fucked to figure out gribble syntax, it's too early

15:05:21 bitcoinpete: ;;ticker

15:05:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0355 = 0.142 BTC [+]

15:05:23 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 519.63, Best ask: 521.87, Bid-ask spread: 2.24000, Last trade: 521.87, 24 hour volume: 10287.52506963, 24 hour low: 515.4, 24 hour high: 537.0, 24 hour vwap: 525.889189973

15:05:23 nubbins`: ;;calc [ticker --last]*6.6

15:05:24 gribble: 3444.342

15:05:40 bitcoinpete: ah nice

15:05:44 nubbins`: ;;calc 3444.342/35

15:05:44 gribble: 98.4097714286

15:05:59 nubbins`: so like $100/ltc

15:06:19 bitcoinpete: shweet

15:06:34 nubbins`: given that litecoins are ~$12, maybe not so shweet?

15:07:02 nubbins`: anyway, it's bound to be confusing pricing these things in fiat

15:07:13 nubbins`: you bought 'em for ltc, gotta sell em for ltc :)

15:07:39 bitcoinpete: blech, rather btc

15:07:49 bitcoinpete: but either way

15:07:59 fluffypony: lol nubbins`

15:08:08 fluffypony: I haven't heard anyone outside of ZA call someone else "bru"

15:08:52 nubbins`: the future is now :D

15:09:13 fluffypony: we are all one big happy familiez

15:09:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49099978 = 0.982 BTC [+] {2}

15:09:43 bitcoinpete: fluffypony: i blame edm

15:09:55 fluffypony: bitcoinpete: let me tell you about my idea for an EDM concert

15:10:03 fluffypony: all I need is US $2.8 million

15:10:25 bitcoinpete: ...in bitcoin

15:10:26 fluffypony: guaranteed returns of at least 5584.12%

15:10:42 fluffypony: guaranteed.

15:10:52 bitcoinpete: we're gonna be in every city in the us within a year

15:10:54 fluffypony: with my personal guarantee as the Most Trustworthy Name in Bitcoin Today

15:11:10 fluffypony: scratch that - every major city in the WORLD with a population above 500

15:11:23 nubbins`: people listen to EDM?

15:11:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00093604 = 25.5539 BTC [+] {3}

15:11:31 bitcoinpete: i have much business experience from birthday party clowning

15:11:36 fluffypony: I have been assured by David Seamonster that he will do PR for us

15:11:41 fluffypony: for cheap

15:11:57 fluffypony: nubbins`: apparently it's the Next Big Thing

15:12:16 bitcoinpete: i can even pay seamonster in submarinecoin

15:12:27 bitcoinpete: nubbins`: ya, like scrillions of people

15:12:46 fluffypony: hah hah

15:12:51 bitcoinpete: ;;ud scrillion

15:12:52 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Scrillions | Puff Daddies a Scrillion-Aire / PIMP: "I heard there was millions of people involved" HOE: "Nope, more like Scrillions". by AJAPTwo December 07, 2003. 55 10.

15:15:40 bitcoinpete: there are some gem comments in the anti-stamp reddit thread

15:15:52 bitcoinpete: "That is ridiculous, and anti-bitcoin."

15:16:21 bitcoinpete: "Mike Hearns wet dream come true"

15:17:24 bitcoinpete: "Yeah you don't want to get STAMPED!!"

15:17:36 bitcoinpete: "EVERY TIME BITCOIN RECOVERS SOME BULLSHIT LIKE THIS HAPPENS"

15:17:57 bitcoinpete: whoa is us, the redditards, ever victims of our upbringings

15:18:27 bitcoinpete: "But you can still withdram coins without this nazi-style questioning, right?"

15:18:45 bitcoinpete: sieg heil bitstamp!

15:24:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

15:25:43 bitcoinpete: Dimsler: !up

15:25:49 bitcoinpete: !up Dimsler

15:26:12 Mats_cd03: woe is us

15:26:26 bitcoinpete: heya Dimsler, who are you?

15:26:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31436 @ 0.00093464 = 29.3813 BTC [-]

15:28:10 nubbins`: dimmy

15:28:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21878 @ 0.00093625 = 20.4833 BTC [+] {2}

15:29:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6164 @ 0.00093638 = 5.7718 BTC [+]

15:31:00 bitcoinpete: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/05/23/kenyas-bitpesa-launches-beta-test-of-remittance-service/

15:31:00 assbot: Kenya’s BitPesa Launches Beta Test of Remittance Service - MoneyBeat - WSJ

15:31:52 bitcoinpete: "BitPesa’s fee will be a flat 3%. BitPesa handles the entire transfer on both ends; users buy bitcoins on the one end, and recipients receive Kenyan shillings on the other."

15:32:30 bitcoinpete: "Nairobi is a cosmopolitan city of 3 million, with an educated professional class. 'They’re not just living in a hut.' "

15:32:38 bitcoinpete: lol

15:38:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21144 @ 0.00093642 = 19.7997 BTC [+] {2}

15:40:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0355 = 0.1065 BTC [+]

15:44:12 Mats_cd03: http://vixandmore.blogspot.com/2014/05/low-volatility-how-to-profit-from-quiet.html

15:44:13 assbot: VIX and More: Low Volatility: How To Profit From a Quiet VIX (Guest Columnist at Barron’s)

15:45:02 benkay: ;;ticker

15:45:03 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 519.3, Best ask: 519.53, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last trade: 519.53, 24 hour volume: 9960.40095559, 24 hour low: 515.4, 24 hour high: 535.99, 24 hour vwap: 525.874228967

15:46:18 asciilifeform: re: bitstamp: if the story is true, they've fucked their public goat.

15:46:26 asciilifeform: redditards or no

15:47:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 17 @ 0.02385294 = 0.4055 BTC [+] {4}

15:47:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00093203 = 28.8929 BTC [-] {2}

15:50:37 bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: looks that way

15:58:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00446335 = 0.1785 BTC [-] {2}

15:59:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 248 @ 0.00442281 = 1.0969 BTC [-] {9}

16:00:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00441002 = 0.4719 BTC [-]

16:00:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.05667048 BTC to 8`552 shares, 24049 satoshi per share

16:01:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.039494 = 0.1975 BTC [+]

16:01:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 45.59524456 BTC to 8`552 shares, 533153 satoshi per share

16:02:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.0975 = 0.8775 BTC [+]

16:02:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0230001 = 0.23 BTC [-]

16:03:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 85 @ 0.02178534 = 1.8518 BTC [-] {4}

16:03:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.03484272 = 1.0453 BTC [-] {3}

16:05:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.02049999 = 0.1025 BTC [-] {2}

16:07:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 97 @ 0.02053135 = 1.9915 BTC [+] {3}

16:07:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0345 = 0.2415 BTC [-]

16:08:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 122 @ 0.0216 = 2.6352 BTC [+]

16:09:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0340001 = 0.136 BTC [-] {2}

16:09:46 bitcoinpete: https://globalconnections.hsbc.com/canada/en/articles/renminbi-worlds-next-reserve-currency?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=click&utm_content=1&utm_campaign=global+gc+2014

16:09:48 assbot: Renminbi: the worlds next reserve currency HSBC Global Connections

16:09:56 bitcoinpete: interesting promo work by hsbc

16:10:26 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 11 @ 0.01890032 = 0.2079 BTC [-] {4}

16:10:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.03400004 = 0.544 BTC [-] {6}

16:10:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 15 @ 0.04954094 = 0.7431 BTC [-] {3}

16:11:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.04954094 = 0.2477 BTC [-] {2}

16:11:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.01773574 = 0.2306 BTC [-] {3}

16:11:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.034 = 0.272 BTC [-]

16:11:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 200 @ 0.00078135 = 0.1563 BTC [-] {2}

16:12:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.02011767 = 0.1207 BTC [+] {3}

16:13:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.02217921 = 0.3105 BTC [+] {3}

16:14:22 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/24/notes-from-this-week/

16:14:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.03373118 = 0.4048 BTC [-] {4}

16:14:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 53 @ 0.04954094 = 2.6257 BTC [-] {4}

16:14:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25604 @ 0.00093176 = 23.8568 BTC [-] {2}

16:15:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 58 @ 0.01724504 = 1.0002 BTC [-] {9}

16:15:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.04954094 = 0.2972 BTC [-] {2}

16:15:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 58 @ 0.03356487 = 1.9468 BTC [-] {8}

16:16:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.03287433 = 0.263 BTC [-] {2}

16:16:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.017 = 0.136 BTC [-] {2}

16:16:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 28 @ 0.04954094 = 1.3871 BTC [-] {3}

16:22:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.03288058 = 0.3288 BTC [+] {2}

16:22:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 28 @ 0.017 = 0.476 BTC [-] {2}

16:22:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.04954094 = 0.3963 BTC [-]

16:23:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 18 @ 0.03252167 = 0.5854 BTC [-] {2}

16:23:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0975 = 1.0725 BTC [+]

16:25:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.04954094 = 0.4954 BTC [-]

16:28:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/hashfast-court-update/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hashfast-court-update

16:28:24 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/hashfast-court-today/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hashfast-court-today

16:28:25 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-difficulty-update/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bitcoin-difficulty-update

16:28:26 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-mining-updates/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bitcoin-mining-updates

16:28:27 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/data-feeds-now-live-auto-updating/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=data-feeds-now-live-auto-updating

16:28:28 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/hashfast-announces-peppermining-partnership/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hashfast-announces-peppermining-partnership

16:28:29 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/hashfast-updates-scammers/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hashfast-updates-scammers

16:29:24 benkay: jesus penguirker

16:32:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29804 @ 0.00093677 = 27.9195 BTC [+] {3}

16:34:49 Mats_cd03: bcoinnews.com is shit

16:34:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49099957 BTC [-]

16:35:01 BingoBoingo: Is this a penguirker problem or an RSS problem?

16:35:49 Mats_cd03: definitely an rss problem

16:40:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.03225 = 0.2903 BTC [-]

16:41:22 Mats_cd03: !up CheckDavid

16:41:31 CheckDavid: Thanks Mats_cd03

16:42:05 CheckDavid: I wanted to ask something you guys certainly know the answer to.

16:42:28 CheckDavid: When and why does a company pay dividends vs reinvesting ?

16:45:26 dignork: CheckDavid: normally this happens when company cannot expand, so reinvesting doesn't make sense, think coca cola

16:45:34 nubbins`: generally a company pays dividends because its investors are fucking idiots and they want to start getting their money back immediately after investing it

16:45:55 nubbins`: oh, sorry, you were asking in a general sense?

16:46:11 dignork: CheckDavid: another case is legal, for example mREIT have to pay dividents

16:46:37 Mats_cd03: lots of reasons, but dividends are uncommon with e.g. startups, early phase corps

16:47:52 CheckDavid: Yes nubbins`

16:49:45 CheckDavid: Mats_cd03: I see. So when should a startup start paying dividends? And you have to admit, from startup to coca cola status is a long voyage.

16:51:13 dignork: CheckDavid: when you cannot think of expansion

16:52:05 CheckDavid: dignork: I find it hard to conceive of a business that can't think of expansion .

16:52:27 CheckDavid: I mean. One from a startup.

16:52:37 dignork: with coca cola, obviously they can spend their money in something else, get into banking business for example, but they can't do this

16:52:56 CheckDavid: They can keep expanding always

16:53:10 CheckDavid: Or trying to

16:53:38 CheckDavid: A tech startup can develop new technology forever

16:54:18 benkay: right about now you're probably wondering why bitcoin fartups pay divs

16:54:21 CheckDavid: A tech business I mean.

16:54:23 dignork: well, yes. But if their earnings stop growing, it makes sense to start paying divs

16:55:02 dignork: no earnings growth == stock price is not raising

16:55:32 benkay: in the case of mpex, mpex is an an0 company. this isn't strictly true, in that the thing should theoretically show servers and datacenter rental costs (...). in the case of rentalstarter, well, why the fuck are they paying divs instead of reinvesting and growing NAV?

16:55:40 benkay: !t h rent

16:55:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00559000 / 0.00574385 / 0.00589991 (266 shares, 1.52786307 BTC), 7D: 0.00559000 / 0.00588518 / 0.00648989 (1399 shares, 8.23336482 BTC), 30D: 0.00532500 / 0.00636853 / 0.00750000 (9061 shares, 57.70524944 BTC)

16:55:54 CheckDavid: Can't a business just pay bonuses to its collaborators and just avoid paying dividends forever?

16:56:00 benkay: you'll note that MPIF doesn't pay divs.

16:56:18 benkay: collaborators?

16:56:36 CheckDavid: Employees whatever

16:56:42 CheckDavid: Members partners.

16:56:43 benkay: that's a cost.

16:56:48 benkay: employees are a cost.

16:56:55 benkay: partner payments reduce net asset value of the operation.

16:57:05 CheckDavid: benkay: let's say I make you a proposal dorna very cool looking business

16:57:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0315 = 0.126 BTC [-]

16:57:15 CheckDavid: I offer you a job plus stock

16:57:18 benkay: dubious, but i'll listen.

16:57:41 benkay: carry on...

16:57:43 CheckDavid: But you know nothing about how I'm going to turn a profit

16:57:52 CheckDavid: Why do you care about the stock?

16:58:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1982 BTC [-]

16:58:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 17 @ 0.039494 = 0.6714 BTC [+]

16:58:17 CheckDavid: It could be a business that will never pay dividends

16:58:26 CheckDavid: And still be 'successful'

16:58:26 dignork: CheckDavid: Can't a business just pay bonuses to its collaborators => shareholders are kinda collaborators, so div are exactly this

16:58:51 CheckDavid: What's the incentive to pay dividends?

16:59:38 dignork: CheckDavid: because shareholders 'own' part of your business, so if your earning are not spent, you have to pays them

16:59:42 CheckDavid: Why would you pay dividends?

16:59:52 CheckDavid: But you can spend.

17:00:00 CheckDavid: You can always spend. That's the point.

17:00:16 dignork: blackjack and hookers do not count :)

17:00:19 benkay: if i know nothing about how you're going to turn a profit what the fuck?

17:00:32 benkay: one does not invest into black boxes.

17:00:38 benkay: one cannot possibly invest into black boxes.

17:00:43 benkay: that is not investing. that is gambling.

17:00:53 CheckDavid: Not the point.

17:01:03 benkay: what is the point again?

17:01:09 CheckDavid: I didn't say invest. I said you are offered and ask what do you care about it.

17:01:34 benkay: on the surface of the proposition i don't give two fucks. you won't tell me how the machine works and I'm expected to make it go?

17:01:51 benkay: this model needs some serious constraints on it before i can make heads or tails of it.

17:01:55 benkay: maybe i'm just retarded...

17:02:18 CheckDavid: No.

17:02:26 CheckDavid: 5:46:57 PM • Mats_cd03 lots of reasons, but dividends are uncommon with e.g. startups, early phase corps

17:03:04 CheckDavid: So apparently this is common that businesses (startups) begin without defining how dividends will be paid

17:03:12 benkay: mhmmmmmm

17:03:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18650 @ 0.00093708 = 17.4765 BTC [+] {2}

17:03:19 CheckDavid: Or not?

17:03:27 pankkake: BingoBoingo: I guess he added the utm_ trackers, and it thought it was new posts. as I said earlier, it's a very dumb algo :p

17:04:15 dignork: CheckDavid: at some point company may decide to pay divs, it doesn't have to be defined up front

17:04:17 CheckDavid: And I was just thinking that a business can be successful without paying dividends

17:04:48 CheckDavid: dignork: but can't it decide to never pay them as well and just reinvest despite its success ?

17:05:08 benkay: <CheckDavid> And I was just thinking that a business can be successful without paying dividends // this is correct.

17:05:37 benkay: <CheckDavid> dignork: but can't it decide to never pay them as well and just reinvest despite its success ? // also, true.

17:05:39 dignork: CheckDavid: usually board of directors can decide whatever the fuck they want, as long as it somehow legal

17:05:47 benkay: ^^

17:06:13 benkay: the dividend obsession in btc is kinda weird.

17:06:19 CheckDavid: So shareholders can be left with no dividends forever.

17:06:24 benkay: artifact of the early mining days?

17:06:28 benkay: CheckDavid: yup.

17:06:48 CheckDavid: That kinds sucks lol

17:06:53 benkay: ideally, net asset value increases disproportionately to the divs that woulda been paid out, as management is using that money to grow the company.

17:06:54 CheckDavid: *kinda

17:06:58 benkay: why?

17:07:07 benkay: if the value of the asset is increasing over time, who cares about dividends?

17:07:20 dignork: CheckDavid: stock emission is a long con. fuck your investors, and then you'll have really bad price when you issue another batch...

17:07:28 benkay: (assuming a deep enough market to liquidate a given position...)

17:07:42 CheckDavid: benkay: but is it increasing ? If it yields bi return I would assume it has no market demand

17:08:07 CheckDavid: *no

17:08:28 benkay: the increase in value is the return.

17:08:51 benkay: so look at MPIF

17:08:52 benkay: no divs

17:08:52 CheckDavid: But does it increase ?

17:08:58 CheckDavid: I see.

17:09:10 benkay: if net asset value is above price, investors will buy it as the stock represents the assets on the books.

17:09:26 benkay: if net asset value is below the price, investors will sell it as the stock ibid etc

17:09:29 CheckDavid: Right.

17:09:55 CheckDavid: I'm sure that's better reflected in businesses that have hard assets

17:09:58 benkay: if NAV increases over time (not a guarantee), you get return with no divs.

17:10:05 benkay: yeah will a business with no hard assets - what is it anyways

17:10:10 benkay: an0

17:10:12 benkay: and pays divs.

17:10:28 benkay: now!

17:10:37 benkay: bitbet could refuse to pay divs and hold those btc on the books.

17:10:40 CheckDavid: What? Lol

17:10:47 CheckDavid: I see.

17:10:58 benkay: you'd get return (ideally) by asset value increase.

17:11:22 benkay: this is all predicated on trusting the issuer to run the thing correctly and the stock exchange to similarly do things correctly.

17:11:45 benkay: so what investments have you made lately, CheckDavid ?

17:11:50 benkay: ;;gettrust assbot CheckDavid

17:11:51 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user CheckDavid: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=CheckDavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=CheckDavid | Rated since: Fri Apr 11 12:52:24 2014

17:12:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1757 @ 0.0009359 = 1.6444 BTC [-]

17:13:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 321 @ 0.00076863 = 0.2467 BTC [-] {8}

17:14:48 benkay: !up CheckDavid

17:14:51 CheckDavid: 6:11:48 PM CheckDavid But btc on their books are less valuable to shareholders due to the risk of.losing them and other factors.

17:14:52 benkay: didn't know your timer'd run out

17:14:54 CheckDavid: Well

17:15:04 CheckDavid: Of course you did

17:15:12 CheckDavid: I'm sure you did that to troll me

17:15:15 benkay: hey kakobrekla it'd be neat if the timer echo'd in here

17:15:22 benkay: dude give it a rest i don't fuck with people like that

17:15:30 CheckDavid: ;;gettrust assbot benkay

17:15:30 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Trust relationship from user assbot to user benkay: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 9 via 9 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013

17:15:47 CheckDavid: Lool

17:15:55 benkay: anywayyyyyyys

17:15:55 CheckDavid: Ok :)

17:16:06 CheckDavid: Can I voice.myself with level 1 ?

17:16:09 benkay: yeah!

17:16:20 benkay: i was confused to be quite honest

17:16:27 benkay: someone upped you, but you have l1 trust

17:16:53 CheckDavid: Who did?

17:16:53 CheckDavid: Who has the power?

17:17:04 benkay: <Mats_cd03> !up CheckDavid [16:41]

17:17:04 benkay:

17:17:11 CheckDavid: No

17:17:16 CheckDavid: I mean the level 1

17:17:33 BingoBoingo: CheckDavid: You auth with gribble and !up on PM with assbot

17:17:33 benkay: consider it a benediction from your bitlord.

17:17:34 dignork: benkay: few minutes ago: -- | Mode #bitcoin-assets [-v CheckDavid] by assbot

17:17:53 benkay: dignork: ah i don't want to watch mode changes tho :(

17:18:11 benkay: joins are annoying enough to watch

17:18:33 benkay: some day we'll have enough people in assbot's wot that i can turn them off and let everyone else !up the noobs

17:18:34 dignork: i have join/leave filtered out

17:19:47 benkay: on an entirely different topic, what's the least awful bitcoin api to program against?

17:20:01 benkay: all i need is to watch an addr.

17:22:35 benkay: oh ho ho look at this

17:22:36 benkay: https://github.com/bit-c/bitc

17:22:36 assbot: bit-c/bitc GitHub

17:22:42 benkay: i think i just creamed myself

17:22:54 benkay: valgrind clean!

17:23:33 dignork: benkay: I'm currently playing with electrum, they have a simple pyhthon api

17:24:12 benkay: dignork: link?

17:24:20 benkay: to the python api docs, that is

17:24:58 dignork: ah, no docs :( but there are samples: https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/tree/master/scripts

17:24:59 assbot: electrum/scripts at master spesmilo/electrum GitHub

17:25:18 benkay: ah neat

17:25:21 benkay: thanks, dignork

17:25:34 CheckDavid: Lol benkay thanks BingoBoingo

17:25:36 benkay: still, how slick does bit-c look?

17:26:05 benkay: CheckDavid But btc on their books are less valuable to shareholders due to the risk of.losing them and other factors. << this is absolutely correct.

17:26:36 benkay: but a stock that has upside promise denominated in btc trumps btc alone.

17:26:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1160 @ 0.00011399 = 0.1322 BTC [-] {5}

17:27:07 CheckDavid: Yes. I thought about that.

17:29:13 dignork: benkay: there is also commandline tool: https://github.com/spesmilo/sx , no direct api, but nice for shell scripts

17:29:14 assbot: spesmilo/sx GitHub

17:30:46 benkay: dignork: that's neat as well. not spv though.

17:30:50 benkay: do i actually want spv?

17:31:28 dignork: well, they have their own server, btw electrum also has it's own server

17:31:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00093316 = 22.3958 BTC [-]

17:31:50 benkay: yeah...

17:33:11 benkay: hrm.

17:33:14 dignork: for electrum i keep my own, so I do not depend on other servers well being

17:36:29 fluffypony: plus any client connects to multiple servers

17:36:36 fluffypony: so it's not going to trust just 1

17:36:47 fluffypony: AND the only way to discover more servers than the core list

17:36:52 fluffypony: is to getpeers from the server

17:36:59 fluffypony: and the server gets peers from #electrum on Freenode

17:37:12 fluffypony: subsequently, servers are checked by electra (a bot)

17:37:22 fluffypony: that kicks servers that don't present the correct block hash etc.

17:40:23 BingoBoingo: benkay: Thanks for the link to bit-c

17:43:32 BingoBoingo: On that note I am off for a few units of time.

17:46:13 dignork: benkay: bitc spv thingy is neat, thanks

18:01:17 kakobrekla: benkay why is that

18:03:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00440812 = 1.102 BTC [-] {6}

18:04:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 35 @ 0.03953427 = 1.3837 BTC [+] {3}

18:09:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 32 @ 0.018 = 0.576 BTC [-]

18:16:00 benkay: kakobrekla: should i be watching mode changes instead?

18:16:51 kakobrekla: dunno

18:17:01 kakobrekla: i watch modes but not joins and parts

18:19:01 benkay: there's this implicit thing of upping new names that kinda requires i watch at least joins

18:21:22 kakobrekla: if anyone wants to read complete nonsense https://bitbillions.com/blog/isnt-that-just-dandi/

18:21:25 assbot: Isn’t That Just Dandi?

18:22:32 kakobrekla: yeah thats a point benkay , but thats too much noise

18:22:45 kakobrekla: i think the modes are the small part of it

18:25:38 thestringpuller: ;;seen BingoBoingo

18:25:38 gribble: BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 42 minutes and 5 seconds ago: <BingoBoingo> On that note I am off for a few units of time.

18:33:40 benkay: !up everclear

18:33:48 benkay: !down everclear

18:34:05 benkay: guess that's not so bad.

18:35:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00093316 = 18.6632 BTC [-]

18:42:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36128 @ 0.0009342 = 33.7508 BTC [+] {3}

18:44:29 benkay: bitc is legiiiiit

18:44:40 *: benkay says without inspecting source

18:49:21 benkay: no coin control yet tho

18:51:38 benkay: seems to work as advertised...

18:54:48 thestringpuller: !down with benkay

18:56:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 100 @ 0.04954094 = 4.9541 BTC [-]

18:57:22 benkay: ;;tslb

18:57:27 gribble: Time since last block: 14 minutes and 41 seconds

19:06:03 thestringpuller: fluffypony

19:06:05 thestringpuller: what and interesting name

19:06:07 thestringpuller: flufffffff

19:06:44 fluffypony: lol

19:17:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00093433 = 22.3305 BTC [+] {2}

19:30:26 benkay: ;;tslb

19:30:31 gribble: Time since last block: 47 minutes and 45 seconds

19:37:21 benkay: hue

19:37:27 benkay: guess which human in this interaction I was: 18g8GMujcTg5HbaXMxFM92JLNm5eeayfnN

19:37:29 benkay: dorp

19:37:42 benkay: http://coinjoint.info/bitcoin-meetup-portland-skyhook-atm-action/

19:37:43 assbot: Bitcoin Meetup Portland Oregon: Skyhook ATM & More! - CoinJoint.info

19:54:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.039001 = 0.117 BTC [-]

19:59:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

20:11:53 punkman: ;;ticker

20:11:55 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 525.0, Best ask: 525.01, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 525.0, 24 hour volume: 6821.00135225, 24 hour low: 515.4, 24 hour high: 533.33, 24 hour vwap: 522.430745202

20:23:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00093436 = 8.6428 BTC [+]

20:40:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40600 @ 0.00093614 = 38.0073 BTC [+] {3}

20:50:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25441 @ 0.00093902 = 23.8896 BTC [+] {3}

20:51:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0975 = 0.585 BTC [+]

20:54:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0975 = 2.4375 BTC [+]

20:57:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 16 @ 0.0194 = 0.3104 BTC [+] {2}

20:57:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.031012 = 0.2481 BTC [-]

20:57:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.04954094 = 0.3963 BTC [-]

20:59:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.031001 = 0.248 BTC [-] {2}

20:59:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 78 @ 0.0194 = 1.5132 BTC [+] {2}

20:59:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.04954094 = 0.3963 BTC [-]

20:59:26 benkay: ;;later tell chetty "buy in may and go away"

20:59:26 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:08:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0193999 = 0.194 BTC [-] {2}

21:29:22 Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats

21:29:24 gribble: Current Blocks: 302456 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 1959 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 26 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 9740824750.62 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.83736

21:32:25 cazalla: well, http://bitbet.us/bet/832/difficulty-at-block-302-400-over-10-billion/ is a nice win

21:32:25 assbot: BitBet - Difficulty at block 302,400 over 10 billion :: 0.05 B (11%) on Yes, 0.43 B (89%) on No | closed 1 week 3 days ago

21:34:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1486 BTC [-]

21:35:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0194899 = 0.1949 BTC [+]

21:37:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.031001 = 0.248 BTC [-]

21:38:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.031001 = 0.124 BTC [-]

21:38:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1982 BTC [-]

21:38:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22902 @ 0.00093336 = 21.3758 BTC [-] {2}

21:40:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.04954094 = 0.2477 BTC [-] {3}

21:47:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.031 = 0.217 BTC [-] {2}

21:47:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.01874 = 0.1312 BTC [-]

21:48:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 7 @ 0.04954094 = 0.3468 BTC [-]

22:05:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

22:06:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00093128 = 4.5633 BTC [-]

22:10:48 benkay: https://www.betarigs.com/

22:10:49 assbot: Betarigs - Cryptocurrency cloud mining

22:12:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

22:13:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00093055 = 14.6096 BTC [-]

22:14:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8769 @ 0.00092788 = 8.1366 BTC [-] {2}

22:15:35 punkman: benkay, https://leaserig.net/

22:15:37 assbot: LeaseRig.net - Mining Rigs   - Rent and Lease Mining Rigs for Bitcoin, Litecoin and Altcoin Mining.

22:19:53 benkay: punkman: how long has this been a thing?

22:20:17 punkman: no idea, they have sha256 though

22:20:46 punkman: made my first bitbet, yay

22:20:53 punkman: or not yay, we'll see next year

22:23:15 benkay: lol someone made all alt-bets i was noodling on but too busy to research properly

22:24:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]

22:27:43 punkman: http://bitbet.us/bet/812/atc-to-reach-block-50000-on-time/

22:27:43 assbot: BitBet - ATC to reach block 50000 on time :: 2.15 B (23%) on Yes, 7.05 B (77%) on No | closing in 2 months 3 days | weight: 69`367 (100`000 to 1)

22:29:50 punkman: so if you rent some rigs, you can make that happen

22:49:43 benkay: where can i see network power graphs for alts?

23:09:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03099999 = 0.155 BTC [-]

23:14:09 Mats_cd03: http://atc.blockr.io

23:25:37 punkman: http://blockchain.info/address/1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD

23:25:37 assbot: Bitcoin Address 1ChancecoinXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXZELUFD

23:26:34 thestringpuller: I wonder how anyone generated that addres

23:26:36 thestringpuller: s

23:27:19 punkman: just gotta make sure it checksums

23:27:34 pankkake: yeah, it never got a transaction out

23:27:40 punkman: maybe they have the priv key though

23:27:44 thestringpuller: lol

23:28:40 punkman: can't believe people are still burning so many BTC to get into random lolcoins

23:29:36 pankkake: at least it's a type of stupid that make my bitcoins more valuable!

23:29:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]

23:29:55 punkman: pankkake: good point

23:30:22 benkay: %h

23:30:22 atcbot: %t | %ticker | %book | %diff | %tx <tx_id> | %bal <address> | %mined | %block <block_height> | %lb | %tslb | %cm | %ptp | %help | %h

23:30:34 benkay: %cm

23:30:35 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.14 TH/s

23:30:53 benkay: sure

23:31:24 benkay: ;;ticker

23:31:25 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 524.55, Best ask: 527.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.45000, Last trade: 527.0, 24 hour volume: 5645.05881744, 24 hour low: 515.4, 24 hour high: 529.06, 24 hour vwap: 522.254417128

23:32:29 punkman: this week's winner: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jf8_piT7Z0A/TkFRnu5LGeI/AAAAAAAAAJ4/uqYVLiz9qss/s1600/De+Molen+Rasputin.JPG

23:32:55 punkman: gotta say it only caught my eye because of the label

23:33:29 benkay: does altcoin have spv support?

23:33:44 benkay: o yeah, rasputin's great

23:35:09 punkman: " After a 2009 trademark-infringement claim was brought by California's North Coast Brewing Company due to the name's similarity to their existing "Old Rasputin" beer of the same style, De Molen changed the name on the American export label to "Disputin" in a humorous reference to the controversy."

23:35:11 punkman: heh

23:45:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49099957 BTC [-]