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00:07:58 fract4l: http://two-bit-idiot.tumblr.com/post/77745633839/bitcoins-apocalyptic-moment-mt-gox-may-have-lost

00:08:06 fract4l: gox lost 750k btc

00:08:53 zoinky: LOL

00:09:19 zoinky: two bit idiot

00:09:47 Namworld: lol whut. This is golden bullshit right at the first paragraph. Gotta read that.

00:09:59 fract4l: sell your goxcoins on builder ASAP

00:10:03 fract4l: going to zero

00:10:09 zoinky: oh the fud

00:11:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1021 @ 0.0002 = 0.2042 BTC [+] {3}

00:13:37 Bugpowder: I'm hooping my analysis is somewhat more reality based

00:14:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.00491995 = 1.2054 BTC [-] {5}

00:18:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.004919 = 0.305 BTC [-] {2}

00:18:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 128 @ 0.0055 = 0.704 BTC

00:19:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 151 @ 0.00491899 = 0.7428 BTC [-] {3}

00:22:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489925 = 0.9799 BTC [-] {2}

00:22:22 dignork: fract4l: apparently one of your nicks was PanicSellBTC, or maybe just ip match, but still, good luck

00:23:12 MisterE: where is the bottom?

00:23:15 fract4l: dignork: hahah. how did you look that up

00:23:16 MisterE: this feels like it

00:23:24 MisterE: time to buy eh?

00:23:36 mike_c: wait.. are you saying gox is insolvent??

00:23:51 dignork: fract4l: otcdb street magic

00:24:15 fract4l: url?

00:24:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.0055 = 0.825 BTC {2}

00:24:40 fract4l: i really should start using vps's more often

00:24:51 KRS-One: yea

00:25:07 fract4l: can anyone recommend a good one that takes BTC w/ instant setup?

00:25:13 mike_c: fract4l can i sell you my bitcoin? i'll send first.

00:26:11 fract4l: $1 each. thnx

00:26:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.06089999 = 0.4263 BTC [+]

00:27:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00489999 = 0.2156 BTC [+]

00:33:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00475759 = 0.4377 BTC [-] {6}

00:34:05 dexX7: must be legit - "bitcoin" (not "Bitcoin", well at least sometimes), "Blockchain.info" (not blockchain.info) and round quotation marks.. matches the style used in previous statements ;)

00:34:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00455327 = 0.9107 BTC [-] {9}

00:35:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00486973 = 0.3652 BTC [+] {3}

00:36:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00489 = 0.2201 BTC [+]

00:37:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 326 @ 0.00489352 = 1.5953 BTC [+] {3}

00:37:57 KRS-One: are u guys watching these marekts

00:38:01 KRS-One: this is monumental

00:38:07 nubbins`: ;;ticker --market all

00:38:14 gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 137.90103, vol: 102195.07906128 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 512.52, vol: 52396.43876218 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 544.756, vol: 21501.47774 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 515.0, vol: 33888.95997588 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 560.98, vol: 379.37892913 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 573.17836, vol: 13452.49200000 | Volume-weighted last average: 348.666592134

00:39:27 ThickAsThieves: what hapnd?

00:40:16 ThickAsThieves: some guy posted a blog with no data?

00:40:18 ThickAsThieves: lol

00:40:25 Namworld: yes

00:40:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00489 = 0.2347 BTC [-]

00:40:37 nubbins`: on his tumblr, no less

00:40:42 Bugpowder: jumpy folks

00:41:12 ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/playboy-plus-accepting-bitcoin-payments/

00:41:20 ThickAsThieves: moon the moon!

00:41:28 Bugpowder: The good news is that I have interfaced matlab with block chain.info so I can spider through these addresses instead of hand analyzing them

00:41:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18622 @ 0.0008827 = 16.4376 BTC [+] {2}

00:41:46 mike_c: wow. that sounds cool. is it performant?

00:41:47 Bugpowder: Soon we will see what happened to the cold wallets.

00:42:17 mike_c: did i just make up a word? what i meant is it is fast?

00:42:23 Bugpowder: I doubt it

00:42:37 nubbins`: heh

00:42:43 Bugpowder: 2 seconds per block

00:42:53 dignork: Bugpowder: how do you locate the wallets? I mean what are the graph scan conditions?

00:42:55 Bugpowder: but I probably only need <100 blocks

00:42:56 kakobrekla: so no need for me to pull the data?

00:43:01 Bugpowder: kakobrekla: correct

00:43:03 kakobrekla: k

00:43:58 Bugpowder: dignork: all the addresses that had near even splits off of this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/478ea915aa3a2e54503c43e1c5659722b42a784412423a05394c83a44affb805

00:44:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489989 = 0.98 BTC [+]

00:44:43 Bugpowder: A bunch were rapidly chained down to addresses of a few 1000 BTC each then they sat for a while

00:44:59 dignork: Bugpowder: ok, but how do you know the owner of 1M1ZkWpHfuQthji2AVsGDvpfY2PrcXQar6 ?

00:45:00 Bugpowder: The list may not be exhaustive though

00:45:06 Bugpowder: dignork: That is known

00:45:13 Bugpowder: to be mt gox

00:45:32 Bugpowder: as the mt gox green address passes it the coins several links up the chain.

00:45:33 dignork: Bugpowder: public sources? link?

00:45:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00489089 = 0.1076 BTC [-] {2}

00:45:53 nubbins`: mike_c any luck with eulora?

00:45:59 Bugpowder: http://imgur.com/a/rzLCu

00:46:00 ozbot: Gox Analysis - Imgur

00:46:02 Bugpowder: see inset text

00:46:16 mike_c: pretty bad luck. chetty suggested graphics drivers. so i updated my drivers and it hosed the box.

00:46:25 nubbins`: ah, bummer

00:46:35 nubbins`: might be worth setting up a VM

00:46:36 mike_c: so i reinstalled, switching from ubuntu 13 to 12.04

00:46:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00489 = 0.1956 BTC [-] {2}

00:46:48 mike_c: installed drivers, ran it.

00:46:58 mike_c: and got a seg fault even earlier than before

00:47:03 *: nubbins` nods

00:47:14 KRS-One: Bugpowder: matlap + blockchain ftw

00:47:16 KRS-One: gj

00:47:20 KRS-One: matlab

00:47:30 jurov: yes? i got segfault too

00:47:42 jurov: right on startup

00:47:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.00489 = 0.4205 BTC [-] {2}

00:47:48 jurov: (eulora)

00:47:50 mike_c: yeah, that's where i'm at.

00:47:58 mike_c: has anyone actually got it running?

00:48:29 nubbins`: heh nope

00:48:35 nubbins`: what bundle did you grab CS from, 0.0.1?

00:48:37 jurov: 0.0.1 was working

00:48:39 Bugpowder: I need to go record from the mouse brains... Will put this on hold for a bit.

00:48:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00489 = 0.1516 BTC [-]

00:48:45 mike_c: nubbins`: yes.

00:48:48 Bugpowder: back in a few with more data.

00:48:55 jurov: i tried CS both from gentoo ebuild

00:49:11 jurov: but it was 2.0 and eulora needs 2.1 ??

00:49:16 mike_c: yeah

00:49:20 jurov: which isn't released yet

00:49:21 mike_c: bleeding edge

00:49:24 nubbins`: i tried compiling a couple of 2.1 snapshots

00:49:26 nubbins`: no dice

00:49:55 jurov: eulora doesn't ship their CS cource?

00:50:18 nubbins`: i feel like it's in one of the earlier bundles

00:50:24 nubbins`: downloading em now

00:50:30 jurov: maybe they patched it internally

00:50:53 jurov: becuse i then used CS from 0.0.1 and it segfaults

00:50:57 nubbins`: ha

00:51:00 nubbins`: i mean, ah

00:51:11 nubbins`: wasnt laughing :(

00:51:19 jurov: you!

00:51:20 jurov: :D

00:51:21 nubbins`: D:

00:51:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 34 @ 0.00489 = 0.1663 BTC [-]

00:52:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 112 @ 0.00488899 = 0.5476 BTC [-] {2}

00:52:56 nubbins`: i'm gonna set up a wordpress blog in the next couple days so we can have a permanent home for compiling/troubleshooting etc info

00:53:20 mike_c: good idea

00:53:28 mike_c: maybe wiki?

00:53:40 nubbins`: not much experience with wikis

00:53:43 nubbins`: and wordpress is free ;D

00:53:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00489647 = 0.9793 BTC [+] {3}

00:53:57 mike_c: so is wikimedia. just could be good to let anyone edit it

00:54:05 nubbins`: free hosting?

00:54:20 mike_c: lemme look

00:54:32 nubbins`: didn't think so, but honestly don't know

00:54:55 jurov: you can ask chetty if it can be right on minigame.bz, no?

00:55:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00489989 = 0.3283 BTC [+] {2}

00:55:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.125 = 0.75 BTC [-] {2}

00:56:07 mike_c: meh, http://wikkii.com/wiki/Free_Wiki_Hosting

00:56:26 mike_c: i'd be willing to host one if there's interest.

00:56:37 nubbins`: http://wikkii.com/wiki/Features

00:56:38 ozbot: Features - Free Wiki Hosting - Wikkii - Free MediaWiki Host

00:56:39 nubbins`: hm.

00:56:40 jurov: i have nice and horribly underutilized php hosting at gandi, too

00:56:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.004899 = 0.4899 BTC [-]

00:57:01 nubbins`: well i've got a saucy domain name

00:57:05 jurov: only use that free hosting if they allow backups

00:57:07 nubbins`: with our powers combined...

00:57:08 mike_c: btcalpha isn't exactly crumbling under the traffic load :)

00:57:45 jurov: welll... what about the jursdiction

00:57:49 mike_c: saucy domain name? what is it?

00:57:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.0048925 = 0.2642 BTC [-] {3}

00:58:11 nubbins`: eulorum.org

00:58:40 nubbins`: oh, CS in 0.0.1 is precompiled? i can't use this D:

00:59:37 nubbins`: (eulorum being both the singular of eulora and a portmanteau of "eulora" and "forum")

00:59:58 mike_c: i like it. so we have a domain name. what about software? any suggestions better than wikimedia?

01:00:12 nubbins`: i gotta say, i don't really like wikis

01:00:18 nubbins`: too disorganized

01:00:40 mike_c: you think blog style is better than community edit?

01:01:06 jurov: anything can get disorganized

01:01:16 nubbins`: well, if you give a few people write access

01:01:33 nubbins`: it's not a huge effort to modify, say, a post about compile instructions based on feedback in comments

01:02:19 nubbins`: that said, blog comments aren't great for back-and-forth

01:03:16 nubbins`: oof, lel, the first three links on http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ all point to 0.0.1

01:03:16 mike_c: i prefer wiki-style, but you're the one with the hot domain name

01:03:19 nubbins`: just re-downloaded it ;(

01:03:36 nubbins`: jurov's the one with the underutilized hosting

01:03:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00489971 = 1.4699 BTC [+] {5}

01:04:48 jurov: mike_c has hosrting, too. but it's in the US?

01:05:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0049 = 0.196 BTC [+]

01:05:08 mike_c: virginia. it's good stuff, very close to nsa for easy monitoring.

01:05:13 nubbins`: heh

01:06:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0049 = 0.196 BTC [+]

01:06:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6050 @ 0.00088342 = 5.3447 BTC [+]

01:06:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12225225 = 0.489 BTC [-] {2}

01:06:28 nubbins`: well, doesn't matter much to me who hosts it, why don't you guys flip a ;;coin or have an armwrestle or something

01:07:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00485 = 0.3589 BTC [-]

01:08:02 jurov: well, i'd be like, here's sftp account, diy

01:08:10 jurov: maybe mike can help more?

01:08:37 mike_c: i'd be fine with putting something up

01:09:28 mike_c: i mean, if it's wordpress we can just let them host. but i can throw up a wiki if that's the decision.

01:09:45 nubbins`: let's try a wiki and see what happens

01:09:51 mike_c: ok

01:10:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00489999 = 0.2499 BTC [+]

01:10:06 nubbins`: PM me dns servers and i'll update

01:10:30 mike_c: sure. i'll set it up tomorrow and send you info.

01:10:42 nubbins`: lovely!

01:11:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 716 @ 0.00492927 = 3.5294 BTC [+] {3}

01:11:41 jurov: good. i'm at amazon, too, if you need sth

01:12:02 *: nubbins` nods

01:12:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2020 @ 0.00498917 = 10.0781 BTC [+] {3}

01:13:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 498 @ 0.00499873 = 2.4894 BTC [+] {3}

01:13:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.108555 = 0.6513 BTC [+] {2}

01:13:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.06089999 = 0.3045 BTC [-]

01:13:54 MisterE: " MisterE, the volume numbers on MPOE for depth are complete and utter nonesense, he's claiming that his ultra thinly traded virtual stock trading on it's own market is worth more than a mtgox because the spot price was ludicrous"

01:14:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 670 @ 0.005 = 3.35 BTC [+] {5}

01:15:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.109 = 0.436 BTC [+] {2}

01:15:29 nubbins`: the coffee i'm drinking is worth more than gox

01:16:09 MisterE: lol

01:16:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10994 BTC [+]

01:16:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0609 = 0.1218 BTC [+]

01:16:13 MisterE: this was back at the time

01:16:51 MisterE: note date nubbins` http://fraudsters.com/2012/why-smpoe-is-worth-more-than-mtgox/

01:16:53 bit14: !last havelock neobee

01:16:53 assbot: Last trade for NEOBEE on HAVELOCK was at 0.005 BTC [+]

01:17:06 nubbins`: heh

01:17:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.10995 = 0.3299 BTC [+]

01:17:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.005 = 0.25 BTC [+]

01:18:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.005 = 0.2 BTC [+]

01:18:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.16230094 = 0.8115 BTC [-] {2}

01:24:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.005 = 0.55 BTC [+] {3}

01:25:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.005 = 0.16 BTC [+] {2}

01:27:23 jurov: !t m x.eur

01:27:24 assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.002 / 0.00205889 / 0.0021 (849 shares, 1.75 BTC), 7D: 0.002 / 0.00211812 / 0.00226762 (3958 shares, 8.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00166114 / 0.00187389 / 0.00226762 (16869 shares, 31.61 BTC)

01:28:09 jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00211812

01:28:09 gribble: 472.116782807

01:28:50 jurov: ;;bc,convert eur

01:28:51 gribble: 1 BTC = 529.12 USD = 385.19936 eur

01:29:00 jurov: mhm

01:32:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00088152 = 11.1953 BTC [-] {2}

01:32:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 108 @ 0.005 = 0.54 BTC [+] {2}

01:32:51 pankkake: http://www.reddit.com/r/LivingWageCoin/

01:32:51 ozbot: Crytocurrency of the Working Man

01:33:01 nubbins`: crytocurrency

01:33:11 nubbins`: protected by crytography

01:33:20 nubbins`: comlicated crytograhy

01:34:21 dignork: lol: coins are generated at the discretion of the chairman

01:38:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49225 = 0.9845 BTC [+] {2}

01:46:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00488573 = 1.2214 BTC [-] {4}

01:49:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004999 = 0.2999 BTC [+]

01:55:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 302 @ 0.00485987 = 1.4677 BTC [-] {4}

01:55:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12879992 = 0.3864 BTC [+]

01:56:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12879992 = 0.5152 BTC [+]

01:56:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00485 = 0.1067 BTC [-]

01:58:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12879993 = 0.3864 BTC [+]

01:58:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.004999 = 0.175 BTC [+] {2}

02:00:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 417 @ 0.00499899 = 2.0846 BTC [-]

02:02:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.12884496 = 2.5769 BTC [+] {3}

02:05:22 kakobrekla: o look

02:05:26 kakobrekla: scammer is now tv host

02:05:27 kakobrekla: http://www.moneyandtech.com/feb24-news-update/

02:07:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 499 @ 0.0049999 = 2.495 BTC [+]

02:08:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00499999 = 0.775 BTC [+] {3}

02:08:22 nubbins`: ah hey, mintchip

02:08:24 nubbins`: forgot about that

02:10:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.005 = 1 BTC [+]

02:12:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.005 = 0.7 BTC [+] {3}

02:17:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 750 @ 0.00499946 = 3.7496 BTC [-] {3}

02:26:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00088346 = 3.1805 BTC [+]

02:26:49 Bugpowder: Take this with a grain of salt http://www.scribd.com/doc/209050732/MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft

02:26:53 Bugpowder: Also gox is halted

02:27:39 the20year: yep

02:29:21 nubbins`: on the bright side, i'm getting further with compiling crystal space on osx

02:29:54 mike_c: i just got it running on a VM. it wasn't 100% healthy, but it ran.

02:30:16 mike_c: i picked up some rotten fruit.

02:30:20 nubbins`: right on!!

02:30:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.128 = 0.256 BTC [-]

02:30:26 *: nubbins` high fives

02:30:27 nubbins`: congrats

02:30:40 nubbins`: you may be the first pleb to successfully get 0.0.4 running

02:30:46 mike_c: :) hopefully i can run it on an actual machine and get better performance

02:30:53 nubbins`: nod, now the real work begins

02:31:08 nubbins`: VMs present pretty standard hardware

02:31:16 the20year: $488

02:31:24 ThickAsThieves: people should rally the price to make sure gox dies

02:32:44 greenspan_fan: so, thoughts on the legitimacy of the my gox slide deck?

02:33:11 nubbins`: the one that came from some random nobody's tumblr, you mean? :D

02:33:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 207 @ 0.00499899 = 1.0348 BTC [-]

02:33:29 nubbins`: i doubt he would have done such a thing just to drive traffic to his blog. which happens to be a tumblr.

02:33:30 nubbins`: ;p

02:34:36 nubbins`: CS still compiling... occasional bouts of panic until i realize they're warnings i'm seeing, not errors

02:34:47 ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1yuox1/copy_of_the_alleged/cfny2g0

02:34:47 ozbot: scottansan comments on Copy of the alleged MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft

02:34:57 greenspan_fan: yeah, a guy on hacker news suggests that the redacted slide is visible using illustrator

02:34:59 greenspan_fan: http://i.imgur.com/u9aP9Hg.png

02:35:25 kakobrekla: gox halted?

02:35:39 kakobrekla: does it seem like a good time?

02:36:06 kakobrekla: mark sez price is 135, halts gox at 135.

02:36:17 ThickAsThieves: i can check the PDF in a sec

02:36:22 greenspan_fan: I just don't know.

02:36:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.48 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2}

02:36:32 greenspan_fan: on the one hand, gox is run so badly

02:36:49 greenspan_fan: but on the other, this would be the finest example of internet trolling meets market manipulation in recent memory

02:36:50 kakobrekla: so badly it makes bitstamp look good

02:36:57 nubbins`: ugh, i don't want to sign up for a scribd account

02:37:03 nubbins`: someone paste a dropbox link etc to that pdf?

02:37:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.005 = 0.485 BTC [+] {3}

02:37:33 dexX7: http://de.scribd.com/doc/209050732/MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft

02:37:34 ozbot: MtGox Situation: Crisis Strategy Draft

02:37:35 the20year: from scribd?

02:37:47 ThickAsThieves: i can confirm

02:37:49 nubbins`: i want to download it, it's asking me to log in

02:37:51 nubbins`: ah, k

02:37:53 ThickAsThieves: the redactions are removable

02:37:58 nubbins`: such lel

02:38:20 dexX7: did you really consider this could be real? =D

02:38:21 nubbins`: there was an occasion a few years ago here where some government department decided to redact their own docs

02:38:26 greenspan_fan: do the amounts seem plausible?

02:38:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02163333 = 0.1298 BTC [-] {3}

02:38:33 nubbins`: they did this by changing the background color to black in a Word doc.

02:39:27 ThickAsThieves: the amounts must be in shorthand

02:39:44 ThickAsThieves: thousands maybe?

02:39:56 greenspan_fan: yeah, thousands usd

02:40:08 Jakamoko: shit that is a lot

02:40:08 nubbins`: kibibucks

02:40:24 ThickAsThieves: maybe 10,000

02:40:26 nubbins`: no, sorry, kilobucks

02:40:28 nubbins`: i'm all mixed up

02:40:37 ThickAsThieves: salary would be too low for 1000

02:40:55 greenspan_fan: april 2015- march 2016 "other" is 150,000

02:41:04 dexX7: nubbins`: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhl8b6k1rya78xc/209050732-MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft.pdf

02:41:15 ThickAsThieves: i dunnp these numbers seem weird

02:41:20 nubbins`: dexX7: tyvm, got it

02:41:32 greenspan_fan: yeah, this seems like either a genius ploy

02:41:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26150 @ 0.0008835 = 23.1035 BTC [+] {2}

02:41:46 greenspan_fan: or there really is a consulting firm as lousy as mt gox is an exchange

02:42:16 nubbins`: "The reality is that MtGox can go bankrupt at any moment, and certainly deserves to as a company"

02:42:20 nubbins`: ^ so fake

02:42:35 nubbins`: who the fuck would put a sentence like that in an internal memo?

02:43:29 ThickAsThieves: PDF was made in Mac OS

02:43:41 ThickAsThieves: no other metadata i can see

02:44:03 ThickAsThieves: made with keynote_cirrus

02:44:04 nubbins`: seems like a poorly-orchestrated smear

02:44:18 nubbins`: complete with fake-redactions

02:44:44 Jakamoko: doesn't look real, but it is working. bitstamp is sliding under 500

02:45:22 nubbins`: eeeee, ton of deprecated method calls

02:45:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.005 = 0.18 BTC [+]

02:46:29 greenspan_fan: another possibility is that the pdf is substantially accurate, but still fabricated

02:46:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1169 @ 0.005 = 5.845 BTC [+]

02:46:51 the20year: alot of people are assuming alot of things

02:46:53 ThickAsThieves: created date for the PDF is tomorrow

02:46:54 ThickAsThieves: weird

02:47:24 ThickAsThieves: guess it leans to it being from asia

02:47:28 ThickAsThieves: fwiw

02:47:43 greenspan_fan: yeah, I would bet on it being fake

02:48:33 dexX7: Ryan Selkis

02:48:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.0051823 = 0.596 BTC [+] {2}

02:48:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0002002 = 0.2002 BTC [+]

02:48:53 dexX7: blacked out the numbers

02:49:04 dexX7: at least his name is bound to the note

02:49:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 146 @ 0.0052526 = 0.7669 BTC [+] {2}

02:50:03 nubbins`: ugh

02:50:05 nubbins`: ryan selkis

02:50:08 nubbins`: aka "the two-bit idiot"

02:50:10 the20year: Who's that?

02:50:20 nubbins`: aka the guy whose tumblr blog this story came from.

02:50:31 dexX7: that's him?

02:50:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.104 BTC [-]

02:50:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 280 @ 0.00529157 = 1.4816 BTC [+] {4}

02:50:47 nubbins`: http://www.meetup.com/Harvard-Bitcoin-Meetup/members/67850542/

02:50:47 ozbot: Ryan Selkis -

02:51:12 nubbins`: BUSTED

02:51:14 dexX7: yea, but is thsi the guy from the stupid blog?

02:51:28 dexX7: because there is https://twitter.com/RyanSelkis etc.

02:51:35 Apocalyptic: the funny thing is that the halt was after the doc got released

02:51:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05030097 = 0.1006 BTC [-]

02:51:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.00540514 = 0.5243 BTC [+] {5}

02:52:43 nubbins`: http://bitcoinaware.com/article/8861/bitbeat-apple-drops-bitcoin-app-from-app-store-bitcoiners-not-happy/

02:52:44 ozbot: Bitcoin Aware | Aritcles | BitBeat: Apple Drops Bitcoin App From App Store, Bitcoiners Not Happy

02:52:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 321 @ 0.00545 = 1.7495 BTC [+] {8}

02:52:49 greenspan_fan: well, yeah

02:52:52 nubbins`: "...wrote Ryan Selkis, who publishes the “Two-Bit Idiot” daily newsletter"

02:53:25 nubbins`: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/11/bitbeat-bitcoins-honest-nodes-under-attack/

02:53:26 ozbot: BitBeat: Bitcoin’s ‘Honest Nodes’ Under Attack - MoneyBeat - WSJ

02:53:32 nubbins`: "...Ryan Selkis wrote in his Two-Bit Idiot newsletter"

02:53:44 nubbins`: lel x 5

02:53:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00545 = 0.5777 BTC [+] {4}

02:53:50 dexX7: ah hehehe

02:54:06 nubbins`: so either this guy fabricated the whole thing

02:54:19 ThickAsThieves: “I am livid, just like so many of you,” wrote Ryan Selkis, who publishes the “Two-Bit Idiot” daily newsletter. “For them to backdoor their users like this on Bitcoin makes me want to start an uprising. (I think others may have already started it though.)”

02:54:21 nubbins`: or he found a legit doc and self-redacted a bunch of info for no reason

02:54:32 greenspan_fan: I am trying to find a btc address to see if he's dumb enough to be buying massively after releasing damaging news

02:54:50 ThickAsThieves: well itd be on exchange

02:54:55 ThickAsThieves: so probly not seeable

02:55:10 greenspan_fan: alas and alack, he's not blatantly asking for tips somewhere

02:55:39 greenspan_fan: meanwhile, every exchange is down 20% while the dude's launching some kind of btc venture fund

02:55:42 ThickAsThieves: true or not, fukn bitcoin is amazing!

02:55:42 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

02:55:48 nubbins`: hahahahahah what a fucking rube, you can just highlight the goddamn redacted text

02:55:53 nubbins`: MY SIDES

02:55:55 ThickAsThieves: best trolls ever

02:56:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.12300001 = 0.492 BTC [-]

02:56:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00545 = 0.109 BTC [+]

02:56:56 greenspan_fan: yeah. I will further speculate that it's his hoax, because the slide deck is all about social media and assorted bullshit

02:57:13 the20year: where is this redacted balance sheet from?

02:57:15 dexX7: the black on the text is simply a comment, you can delete it or set the transparency to 0

02:57:28 greenspan_fan: when it should go into detail about the whole "not going bankrupt and not going to jail" plan

02:57:44 greenspan_fan: here's the imgur link of the unredacted page

02:57:45 greenspan_fan: http://i.imgur.com/u9aP9Hg.png

02:57:46 nubbins`: dexX7 nod

02:57:49 nubbins`: my sides

02:57:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 19 @ 0.0055 = 0.1045 BTC

02:58:11 nubbins`: actually in osx preview it's not even black but translucent grey

02:58:22 greenspan_fan: of course, the rebranding as "gox.com" is hilarious, too

02:58:30 greenspan_fan: "drop the mt, it's cleaner"

02:58:51 ThickAsThieves: there are no MX records for gox.com fwiw

02:58:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]

02:58:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00549039 = 0.6479 BTC [+] {3}

02:59:31 nubbins`: as is the "we are a bunch of cunts who shouldn't be in business" line

02:59:33 nubbins`: like

02:59:39 nubbins`: srsly, does he even internet?

02:59:44 nubbins`: does he even business?

03:00:28 ThickAsThieves: i actually approve of the brand change

03:00:32 ThickAsThieves: :)

03:00:52 Guest88068: http://blog.coinbase.com/post/77766809700/joint-statement-regarding-the-insolvency-of-mtgox

03:00:56 ThickAsThieves: fake or not, the current one is offensive

03:01:46 ThickAsThieves: wtf is that statement

03:02:10 ThickAsThieves: they are confirming the insolvency, or trolled too?

03:02:19 ThickAsThieves: they should have been explicit

03:03:01 greenspan_fan: haha

03:03:07 greenspan_fan: man this is fucking great

03:03:12 dexX7: wow

03:03:26 the20year: i got kicked from #bitcoin for posting that

03:03:32 greenspan_fan: the biggest coinbase booster somehow stumbles onto documents pertaining to the demise of coinbase's biggest rival

03:03:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.005491 = 0.291 BTC [+]

03:04:19 ThickAsThieves: maybe it's the USG!

03:04:31 greenspan_fan: and, fwiw, the whole shitstorm started with the guy posting a link to his own tumblr on reddit

03:04:33 Apocalyptic: they are confirming the insolvency // I feel like they are

03:04:34 ThickAsThieves: they really wanted that US-based dominant exchange

03:04:47 ThickAsThieves: that's the propblem Apoc

03:04:50 ThickAsThieves: it's all "feely"

03:04:54 Apocalyptic: yeah

03:05:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 183 @ 0.005495 = 1.0056 BTC [+] {2}

03:05:07 ThickAsThieves: wtf is wrong with companies these days

03:05:12 ThickAsThieves: be clear, christ

03:05:39 dub__: s/compnies/dude in moms basement/

03:05:41 greenspan_fan: well, clarity opens you up to legal liabilities

03:05:47 cazalla: whois gox.com does show karpeles though

03:05:49 greenspan_fan: for fraud/libel

03:06:00 copumpkin: cazalla: you can put anyone's info on a domain

03:06:02 ThickAsThieves: cazalla those whois arent verified

03:06:09 ThickAsThieves: look up therealaltcoin.org

03:06:12 greenspan_fan: but a three letter domain's expensive

03:06:29 cazalla: yeah that

03:06:32 greenspan_fan: it could just be fortuitous timing?

03:06:41 cazalla: i don't see someone using a premium 3 letter domain to push a scam

03:06:44 dexX7: https://www.google.de/#q=Income+Statement+Net+Sales+Cost+of+Goods+Sold+Gross+Profit+Selling%2C+General+and+Administrative+Expenses+1)+Operating+Income+212+3%2C015+20%2C000+55%2C850+Interest+Income+6+7+14+40+Foreign+Exchange+Gains+76+-+-+-+Non+Operating+Result+82+7+14+40+Ordinary+Income+294+3%2C022+20%2C014+55%2C890+Corporate+Taxes+8+1%2C022+6%2C164+16%2C890+Net+Income+286+2%2C000+13%2C850+39%2C000+1)+Breakdown

03:06:44 ozbot: Google

03:06:45 greenspan_fan: or maybe coinbase's latest pivot is into straight-up crime?

03:07:12 dexX7: a few words of the pdf results only the gox paper itself on google

03:07:22 MisterE: how low will it go today

03:07:27 MisterE: I almost bought at 550

03:07:35 MisterE: maybe today it tests 500

03:07:52 ThickAsThieves: it broke 500 already

03:07:53 greenspan_fan: Top post on HN tomorrow: How we used social media, adobe illustrator, and bitcoin in order to destroy a rival business

03:08:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.004869 = 0.1022 BTC [+] {2}

03:08:10 the20year: it was at 488 about 15m ago

03:09:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.12249 = 1.2249 BTC [-] {3}

03:09:28 greenspan_fan: from the unredacted link, I think some of the columns literally don't add up

03:09:32 greenspan_fan: if I'm reading it correctly

03:10:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.121 = 0.242 BTC [-]

03:10:41 cazalla: i hope it's true, great buying opp

03:10:54 Bugpowder: Well, I guess I don't really need to finish my cold wallet analysis.

03:11:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 294 @ 0.005495 = 1.6155 BTC [+] {2}

03:11:05 Apocalyptic: heh Bug

03:11:06 nubbins`: http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5

03:11:06 ozbot: Ryan Selkis is full of shit - Imgur

03:11:21 dexX7: "- New brand and services ready to be launched (Bitcoin Cafe, ..." lol

03:11:27 the20year: You guys all see that this guy runs btc-china? http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv318/mindc0ntr0l/BobbyLee.jpg

03:11:57 gx: gox will be back, better than ever

03:12:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.12087093 = 1.8131 BTC [-] {6}

03:12:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00549889 = 0.4949 BTC [+]

03:12:10 gx: people are gonna flock to their bitcoin cafe and deposit hundreds of thousands of coins

03:12:15 greenspan_fan: that's a pretty low bar, gx

03:12:19 cazalla: who in their right mind who use gox even if they fixed everything after all this

03:12:22 gx:

03:12:38 dexX7: wow goxcoins at 0.11

03:13:02 greenspan_fan: I wish I had an acct on bitcoin builder

03:13:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.120033 = 0.7202 BTC [-] {3}

03:13:10 greenspan_fan: that is too cheap given how likely this is a hoax

03:13:12 the20year: wonder if we could hit the 1mb limit?

03:13:54 gx: pretty elaborate hoax though

03:13:59 gx: but could be, yeah

03:14:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11482776 = 0.689 BTC [-] {3}

03:14:08 the20year: bitcoinbuilder is at .14

03:15:07 Bugpowder: its not a hoax dude

03:15:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.005495 = 0.3901 BTC [-]

03:15:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.12517994 = 0.2504 BTC [+]

03:15:29 nubbins`: Bugpowder, so why is this guy redacting these "real" PDFs himself?

03:15:39 ThickAsThieves: hey

03:15:44 ThickAsThieves: coinbase edited their post

03:15:48 nubbins`: haha

03:15:51 ThickAsThieves: to remove insolvency from it

03:16:00 ThickAsThieves: thanks to my tweet!

03:16:01 cazalla: that was quick

03:16:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 126 @ 0.00545 = 0.6867 BTC [-]

03:16:17 the20year: http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/25/joint-statement/

03:16:18 ozbot: Joint Statement Regarding the Insolvency of MtGox | Blockchain.info Team Blog

03:16:34 cazalla: guess they drafted it together

03:16:43 nubbins`: cazalla: that's what a joint statement is :)

03:17:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.0054 = 0.216 BTC [-]

03:17:12 ThickAsThieves: i hope they showed this to their lawyers first...

03:17:32 cazalla: changing it after posting might suggest otherwise

03:17:38 ThickAsThieves: indeed

03:17:47 the20year: they redacted the 'insolvency' word

03:18:09 greenspan_fan: if you had access to a real pdf, why would you redact everything using illustrator?

03:18:15 cazalla: wonder how long until blockchain redact it

03:18:16 the20year: 476

03:18:35 Bugpowder: Well... Bitcoin-assets people called it first. Days ago.

03:18:42 ThickAsThieves: the redaction was likely done using a 3rd party PDF editor

03:18:54 ThickAsThieves: even adobe isnt this bad

03:19:05 greenspan_fan: Either way, it just weakens your case

03:19:25 greenspan_fan: and the numbers are purely speculative for the future and drawn from mt gox's reports for the past

03:19:50 gx: greenspan_fan they forgot to mention the 200,000BTC they're gonna make w/ their cafe though. gotta weigh that in.

03:20:17 nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: it was probably redacted with OSX Preview

03:20:18 gx: you talking about the last page of the document where everything is blacked out?

03:20:25 nubbins`: if it was originally created with keynote

03:20:25 greenspan_fan: yeah

03:20:26 ThickAsThieves: someone start a gox ipo on cryptostocks, quick!

03:20:26 gx: is that viewable

03:20:35 greenspan_fan: yes, see imgur links

03:20:38 Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: lol

03:20:38 nubbins`: gx: you can highlight the text and copy/paste

03:20:39 gx: ah derp

03:20:40 nubbins`: gx: http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5

03:20:58 greenspan_fan: but the funny thing is, it might be right anyways

03:21:23 ThickAsThieves: indeed

03:21:28 greenspan_fan: but if it is a hoax, and one of those 'startup ftw!' jackasses made it, then they might be sunk as well

03:21:30 ThickAsThieves: it's gox we're talking bout after all

03:21:41 gx: ah, so that's why it's a hoax, someone just c+p their annual report to the last page to make it seem legit?

03:21:43 gx: am i reading that right

03:21:50 greenspan_fan: which would be, I think, the funniest thing since pirate

03:22:03 gx: or, projections rather

03:22:05 ThickAsThieves: why redact it at all is the question

03:22:09 greenspan_fan: well they've got future projections etc.

03:22:12 ThickAsThieves: it's the least useful page

03:22:20 greenspan_fan: because some of the columns don't seem to add up, or I'm reading it wrong?

03:22:23 Bugpowder: Coinbase has too much money invested in it now by serious people for this to be bullshit

03:22:28 ThickAsThieves: i cant add them either

03:22:40 greenspan_fan: serious people put 41 million into color.com

03:22:41 nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: to make it seem legit.

03:22:52 ThickAsThieves: coinbase edited their blog post bug

03:23:00 ThickAsThieves: to rmeove the insolvency accusation

03:23:05 ThickAsThieves: they are just being opportunists

03:23:11 greenspan_fan: you are way overestimating the intelligence of the silicon valley people

03:23:11 ThickAsThieves: they dont know wha the fuck is what

03:23:16 the20year: i find it interesting they're doing it jointly with compeditors

03:23:17 gx: ha

03:23:43 greenspan_fan: how did they all get together and become confident enough to risk getting sued in the space of a couple hours?

03:23:45 gx: it's members of the btc foundation

03:23:51 gx: which the gox guy just stepped down

03:23:53 Apocalyptic: mtgox.com just went out

03:23:56 ThickAsThieves: coinbase is worried theyll have less customers thats all

03:24:02 ThickAsThieves: they are thinking long term

03:24:11 ThickAsThieves: hastily, but longterm nonetheless

03:24:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 803 @ 0.00509856 = 4.0941 BTC [-] {9}

03:24:21 nubbins`: heh

03:24:31 nubbins`: mtgox.com is indeed gone

03:24:41 Duffer1: yep blank page for me

03:24:44 kakobrekla: wowz

03:24:48 ThickAsThieves: it's loading ... nothing

03:25:02 kakobrekla: this is going faster than i thought ?

03:25:14 greenspan_fan: it's loaded but there's nothing transmitted

03:25:16 ThickAsThieves: i'm gonna win my bitbet!

03:25:28 nubbins`: view-source:https://www.mtgox.com/

03:25:36 nubbins`: nothing at all

03:25:37 dub__: aaanditsgone.com

03:25:40 ThickAsThieves: how do you even do that ?

03:25:43 ThickAsThieves: have no source

03:25:46 ThickAsThieves: but still resolve

03:25:48 greenspan_fan: exactly

03:25:52 gx: send a 200 ok header

03:25:54 gx: thats it

03:25:54 nubbins`: index.html is an empty file

03:25:59 greenspan_fan: they've wiped the entire page

03:26:11 nubbins`: browser is smart enough to not choke

03:26:15 Apocalyptic: so nubbins`

03:26:24 Apocalyptic: you still think it's a hoax ?

03:26:40 nubbins`: Apocalyptic: i still think the pdf is fake, yes

03:26:46 nubbins`: but as i mentioned in -otc:

03:26:48 nubbins`: [23:53:10] oh, don't get me wrong, gox is broke

03:26:48 nubbins`: [23:53:14] everything is gone

03:26:48 ThickAsThieves: i'm on the fence

03:26:57 ThickAsThieves: ^

03:26:59 ThickAsThieves: yeha that too

03:27:13 Apocalyptic: as unreal as it may appear, I think the doc is legit

03:27:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00543499 = 0.2174 BTC [+] {3}

03:27:26 ThickAsThieves: karpeles is so fucked

03:27:35 ThickAsThieves: maybe the most fucked man alive

03:27:38 nubbins`: but why is it so poorly written, why did the guy who "discovered" the doc redact a page?

03:28:06 ThickAsThieves: nub how did you determine it was him that redacte dit

03:28:08 gx: mightve been written in haste as an initial draft

03:28:17 Apocalyptic: but why is it so poorly written, // why is the all mtgox system so poorly written ?

03:28:18 gx: fired off to someone for approval and then leaked

03:28:40 gx: obviously they all know theyre steering a sinking ship

03:28:41 nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: because the redactions (actually black highlights) have his name on them

03:28:44 nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: see http://imgur.com/a/ZyBZ5

03:29:04 nubbins`: open your pdf viewer, and enable highlights/notes

03:29:16 Duffer1: why is ryan selkis?

03:29:17 nubbins`: Apocalyptic: fair enough ;(

03:29:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.00541999 = 0.1572 BTC [-] {3}

03:29:25 greenspan_fan: two-bit-idiot

03:29:25 Duffer1: just some blogger?

03:29:25 nubbins`: Duffer1: some guy who "leaked" this pdf.

03:29:27 nubbins`: a nobody.

03:29:33 Duffer1: interesting

03:29:35 greenspan_fan: he's some vc/blogger/bitcoin nobody

03:29:56 greenspan_fan: which is the resume of every scam artist in the space

03:30:00 ThickAsThieves: oh it appears diffe3rnt in acrobat pro

03:30:00 *: nubbins` nods

03:30:09 dexX7: did trading on gox stop?

03:30:17 kakobrekla: no, gox is stop.

03:30:18 nubbins`: dexX7, gox is gone

03:30:19 gx: http://www.meetup.com/Harvard-Bitcoin-Meetup/members/67850542/

03:30:19 ozbot: Ryan Selkis -

03:30:24 dexX7: api is still available

03:30:34 nubbins`: ah

03:30:35 dexX7: more or less.. http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/ticker_fast

03:30:43 dexX7: http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/depth/full

03:31:09 ThickAsThieves: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanselkis

03:31:09 gx: http://i.imgur.com/hM8Uuvn.png

03:31:10 ozbot: Ryan Selkis | LinkedIn

03:31:14 gx: last 2 hrs of data missing for us

03:31:54 nubbins`: honestly, i think this selkis guy completely fabricated the pdf and associated "story", for whatever reason, but then it grew legs, people started panicking and issuing statements, so gox (who knew it was only a matter of time anyway) decided now was as good a time as any to give it up

03:32:04 ThickAsThieves: Founder

03:32:04 ThickAsThieves: Inscrypto

03:32:04 ThickAsThieves: December 2013 – Present (3 months)Boston, San Francisco

03:32:04 ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin's decentralized, privately funded version of the FDIC. We reduce volatility for consumers while helping hedge funds invest in bitcoin.

03:32:16 nubbins`: imagine

03:32:19 gx: seems like selkis is in competition w/ gox in one way or another.

03:32:28 nubbins`: an asshole who wanted cheap coin for his business was the straw that broke gox's back

03:32:40 nubbins`: honestly wouldn't have guessed

03:32:55 Apocalyptic: an asshole who wanted cheap coin for his business was the straw that broke gox's back // are you serious ?

03:32:55 ThickAsThieves: Founder Good-Benefits - Creator of the first ever "401k for charity" • Worked at @Summit Partners, @Former Analyst at JPMorgan Investment Bank • Studied at @BC

03:33:06 nubbins`: Apocalyptic: am i ever serious? :D

03:33:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00088369 = 5.7882 BTC [+] {2}

03:33:46 nubbins`: man, CS is still building. shoulda made a pizza

03:34:39 ThickAsThieves: https://plus.google.com/106808782106272134400/about

03:36:07 ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/user/selkisr

03:36:07 ozbot: Ryan Selkis - YouTube

03:36:16 kakobrekla: www.businessinsider.com.au/falcon-global-capital-offers-to-buy-the-fbis-bitcoins-2014-2

03:36:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00520006 = 0.156 BTC [-] {3}

03:37:27 ThickAsThieves: hell, this channel could muster a better offer than them

03:37:56 nubbins`: let's all chip in on 14% below

03:38:13 nubbins`: that guy has an asshole face

03:38:22 dexX7: haha yea

03:38:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 41 @ 0.0609 = 2.4969 BTC [+]

03:40:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 267 @ 0.00492521 = 1.315 BTC [-] {7}

03:40:34 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 251 @ 0.0021 = 0.5271 BTC [+]

03:41:21 greenspan_fan: I wonder if it would be better just to buy mt gox?

03:41:25 KRS-One: http://www.reddit.com/user/sarahcoinbit

03:41:25 ozbot: overview for SarahCoinBit

03:42:07 ThickAsThieves: lol

03:42:21 ThickAsThieves: sarahcoinbit magically starts posting an hour ago?

03:42:23 greenspan_fan: or visit DPR in prison? ... if you wanted to buy questionable coins in bulk

03:43:17 Apocalyptic: KRS-One, can you get a registration date for the account ?

03:43:18 ThickAsThieves: go for it

03:43:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1071 @ 0.00478179 = 5.1213 BTC [-] {8}

03:43:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.12337774 = 0.3701 BTC [-] {2}

03:43:40 dexX7: redditor for 28 days

03:43:43 gx: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuouz/mtgox_situation_crisis_draft/cfnz306

03:43:43 ozbot: historian1111 comments on MtGOX Situation Crisis Draft

03:43:46 jayk: lights out for mtgox?

03:44:02 gx: interesting point, they intentionally tried to tank the price so theyd be liable for less

03:44:07 Duffer1: hopefully jayk

03:44:08 gx: and froze at a low point

03:44:23 nubbins`: interesting times

03:44:25 greenspan_fan: they only ever really had a genius for fraud

03:44:48 nubbins`: "i remember where i was when i found out mtgox was gone... sitting on my ass in front of the computer"

03:45:02 greenspan_fan: interestingly enough, that's also where I was on 9/11

03:45:12 nubbins`: heh, i was smoking a joint outside the library at uni

03:45:16 the20year: I was watching regis and kelly on 9/11

03:45:18 Apocalyptic: dexX7, good point

03:45:32 nubbins`: was locked in an exam room for the actual event, didn't find out until hours afterwards

03:45:40 ThickAsThieves: would be more fun if we were all in a real room sharing a joint

03:45:46 *: nubbins` nods

03:46:10 nubbins`: brb, next best thing

03:46:13 ThickAsThieves: maybe we should do an american b-a "conference"

03:46:13 greenspan_fan: and was your mark 0.8181818 repeating?

03:46:36 nubbins`: greenspan_fan: honestly can't recall ;(

03:46:58 nubbins`: fun fact, .99 repeating == 1

03:47:18 greenspan_fan: I was going to pretend to disagree

03:47:18 jayk: they were allowing trading up until today

03:47:22 greenspan_fan: but I just don't have the heart

03:47:25 nubbins`: heh

03:47:35 nubbins`: aww, i was going to prove it several different ways ;(

03:47:41 nubbins`: now it's all left as an exercise to the reader

03:47:46 greenspan_fan: 1/3 = 0.3333...

03:47:57 nubbins`: that's one way :D

03:48:10 greenspan_fan: what are some other ways?

03:48:21 ThickAsThieves: so if it is true, then that means the lost coins are already priced in

03:48:30 ThickAsThieves: and only downward movement is pani

03:48:31 ThickAsThieves: c

03:49:00 nubbins`: greenspan_fan: let x=0.99...

03:49:05 ThickAsThieves: how the hell do you leak coins for years though

03:49:15 greenspan_fan: that would make sense, because otherwise people who traded via bitcoin builder would be furious

03:49:30 nubbins`: 10x = 9.99.., ergo 10x-x = 9.99... - .99..., ergo 9x = 9, ergo x = 1

03:49:32 ThickAsThieves: they will be

03:49:38 ThickAsThieves: gox coins = 0 USD

03:49:51 greenspan_fan: that's a good one

03:49:56 nubbins`: nod, my fave

03:50:06 nubbins`: you can do it with infinite series too

03:50:09 nubbins`: can't recall the details

03:50:13 greenspan_fan: not if they're planning to make people whole tho

03:50:21 ThickAsThieves: lol

03:50:27 ThickAsThieves: gox cant make anything whole

03:50:32 ThickAsThieves: theyre done

03:50:39 ThickAsThieves: no plan or rebranding can save them

03:50:55 greenspan_fan: at a 80% discount?

03:51:03 nubbins`: i really regret not selling at $23

03:51:04 the20year: it's like everything else , once you screw the pooch it can't be undone

03:51:05 nubbins`: LEL JK :D

03:51:25 greenspan_fan: assuming they have any money at all (which they might, if they were front running the market all week)

03:51:49 greenspan_fan: they'll be able to cover at least some of the deposits

03:52:15 ThickAsThieves: we'll see i guess

03:52:19 ThickAsThieves: i'm doubtful

03:52:28 greenspan_fan: how many black lotuses would you need to sell to cover 700 000 btc?

03:52:37 nubbins`: "at least some" might as well be "none"

03:52:37 ThickAsThieves: even if someting is sorted it'll take year(s)

03:52:51 nubbins`: greenspan_fan: depends, are you a dealer? :D

03:52:51 Duffer1: is that a MTG ref greenspan fan?

03:52:57 greenspan_fan: yes

03:53:06 greenspan_fan: I think karpeles should cut off a pinky, at least

03:53:08 ThickAsThieves: are they casacius lotuses?

03:53:12 nubbins`: heh

03:53:13 greenspan_fan: it's the japanese corporate way

03:53:18 nubbins`: TBH i thought he was talking about sports cars

03:53:35 ThickAsThieves: it's the most expensive magic card

03:53:44 nubbins`: http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f94/142461d1266687227-f-s-starlight-black-lotus-elise-25-000-img_0126.jpg

03:53:52 Diablo-D3: top 5 stories on hn, with a sixth further down are mtgox

03:53:56 ThickAsThieves: nice car

03:54:03 nubbins`: nod, sexy curves

03:54:12 nubbins`: met a girl who raced a lotus once

03:54:23 greenspan_fan: because HN was one of the first places to hear about bitcoin, and almost none of the people got in on it

03:54:32 the20year: hn?

03:54:49 nubbins`: haxor gnus

03:55:13 the20year: I *got in* on bitcoin in the first 3 months, didn't do me much good by not sticking with it :D

03:56:05 greenspan_fan: really? did you not have a good graphics card or something?

03:56:25 ThickAsThieves: http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/25/joint-statement/ kraken just happy for the free advertising

03:56:26 ozbot: Joint Statement Regarding MtGox | Blockchain.info Team Blog

03:56:27 the20year: Wallet got hacked

03:56:31 greenspan_fan: shitty

03:56:33 ThickAsThieves: people are like krakwho?

03:56:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 169 @ 0.005 = 0.845 BTC [+] {3}

03:56:57 greenspan_fan: wasn't that a scam fund from that guy who ripped off mircea?

03:57:00 the20year: Went to a bunch of faucets after downloading the client, the ones that were giving 1 to 0.5btc out per day per time you hit the faucet

03:57:08 greenspan_fan: patrick hartnett?

03:57:27 greenspan_fan: oh man, that's rough

03:57:30 greenspan_fan: how'd you get hacked?

03:57:32 the20year: Never did anything with teh wallet, showed up at office one day and the client was open, all coins gone

03:57:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 370 @ 0.00086094 = 0.3185 BTC [+] {2}

03:57:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1192 @ 0.00498438 = 5.9414 BTC [-] {6}

03:57:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28450 @ 0.00088402 = 25.1504 BTC [+]

03:58:15 the20year: there was some java/ad exploit that took alot of coins from people running XP, and I was one of them, right around the time bitcoin hit like $20 for the first time due to all the silk road press, maybe that was 2011?

03:58:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 363 @ 0.0008648 = 0.3139 BTC [+]

03:59:13 ThickAsThieves: well it hit $20 from silk road in 2013 too

03:59:14 nubbins`: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/24/us-vatican-bank-idUSBREA1N0TA20140224

03:59:14 ozbot: Pope revolutionizes Vatican by opening finances to scrutiny

03:59:39 greenspan_fan: honestly, I'd be buying right around now anyways

03:59:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1229 @ 0.00086544 = 1.0636 BTC [+] {4}

04:00:02 the20year: I would be too , but I have very little personal cash available for btc, but also sadly have a decent bit of BTC from investors to be converted to fiat to buy property

04:00:44 jurov: i'd try to postpone that

04:00:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 225 @ 0.00086797 = 0.1953 BTC [+] {2}

04:01:15 the20year: Have been

04:01:22 ThickAsThieves: if you use bitcoins your raised you are cheating shareholders

04:01:23 the20year: But we are locked into contracts on two properties

04:01:27 ThickAsThieves: MUST HODL!

04:01:44 greenspan_fan: seriously, I would not be surprised if it's higher than ever in a week

04:01:44 jurov: or you should have insured using mpoe options

04:01:57 greenspan_fan: given how any press seems to push the price up

04:02:15 jurov: oh i forgot mpoe is down :(

04:02:21 the20year: That would have been the better choice, one of the bigger issues has been waiting on havelock to send me the coins, they aren't deposited on a wallet on our side

04:02:29 the20year: Granted I did cash out part of them at $700

04:02:35 ThickAsThieves: hmm i'm just realizing that last i talked to my brother he was using gox as a wallet

04:02:43 ThickAsThieves: i did tell him to get off like a year ago

04:02:53 ThickAsThieves: well last summer

04:02:53 the20year: I have quite a few investors that have lost out quite a bit of coin at gox

04:02:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.005 = 0.15 BTC [+]

04:04:03 greenspan_fan: don't worry, I'm sure gox.com is going to be a huge hit

04:04:22 ThickAsThieves: yeah, along with bitfunder.com

04:04:22 jurov: and bitcoin cafe

04:04:48 the20year: I think in between bitfuner and gox, just the inevstors I've talked to have lost 150+btc

04:04:52 ThickAsThieves: maybe they rebrand too, under.com

04:04:58 greenspan_fan: ahahaha

04:05:19 Diablo-D3: top 6 stories on hn are mtgox, 7th rising

04:05:53 greenspan_fan: are there any bitcoin death pools? because I don't think karpeles will have been priced properly yet

04:05:56 dexX7: hn?

04:06:08 dexX7: nvm

04:06:12 greenspan_fan: haxxor newz

04:06:47 greenspan_fan: I am thinking either angry investor puts a hit out w/ the yakuza, or he commits hari kiri. Place your bets.

04:06:57 the20year: You guys see the video of our glorious next purchase of 2 houses on one lot?

04:06:57 nubbins`: hmm

04:07:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.12212177 BTC [-]

04:07:13 nubbins`: just had one of those "went downstairs to find a lighter, came across a vial of oil" moments

04:07:31 *: nubbins` rubs hands together

04:07:33 greenspan_fan: what?

04:07:39 Vexual: hes speaking literally

04:07:52 nubbins`: vexual knows

04:07:54 Bones_: wow, thought it was just some nasty rumor earlier. I come back and poof

04:07:56 ThickAsThieves: oil is the lube

04:08:02 ThickAsThieves: rubbing hands and cock together

04:08:03 nubbins`: comedials

04:08:07 nubbins`: comedians, even

04:08:08 greenspan_fan: what's the lighter for, then?

04:08:16 ThickAsThieves: the audience

04:08:16 nubbins`: greenspan_fan: to remove the oil from the vial

04:08:29 greenspan_fan: is your lube water-based?

04:08:33 nubbins`: perverts

04:08:41 nubbins`: PK oil

04:08:44 *: ThickAsThieves raises lit lighter into air "encore!"

04:08:58 jurov: nubbins` gonna make a molotow

04:09:18 jurov: and throw it to gox office

04:09:20 nubbins`: Vexual, have a listen to the album a friend and i recorded: https://atelierbleu.bandcamp.com/album/manicouagan

04:09:20 greenspan_fan: I made a molotov cocktail once.

04:09:24 greenspan_fan: it tasted terrible.

04:09:27 nubbins`: turn up yr bass

04:09:30 jurov: REVOLUTION

04:09:31 Vexual: i listened to some earlier

04:09:34 nubbins`: ah

04:09:40 the20year: pk oil?

04:09:44 Vexual: pretty good, i might need to be in the mood for it

04:09:52 *: nubbins` nods

04:09:57 nubbins`: it's music for late nights

04:10:01 Vexual: hard to think while listening :)

04:10:06 nubbins`: heh, yes

04:10:15 the20year: heh

04:10:16 ThickAsThieves: music to have on while youre passed out

04:10:19 nubbins`: that too

04:10:25 nubbins`: music to wake up startled to

04:10:44 nubbins`: "music"

04:10:47 ThickAsThieves: music for trees in the woods

04:10:48 nubbins`: i'm being generous

04:10:59 the20year: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9427554/Scioto-UnionSmall.mpg

04:11:10 the20year: Bask in the glory of a 385sqft cottage

04:11:20 ThickAsThieves: lol

04:11:30 greenspan_fan: is that enough room to bask?

04:11:45 ThickAsThieves: is it convertible?

04:11:56 the20year: yes

04:12:11 the20year: Granted they're throwing in a 2300sf duplex along with everything

04:13:07 Bugpowder: http://goxbalance.com

04:13:26 dexX7: Bugpowder: where's that from?

04:13:40 Bugpowder: submissions?

04:13:43 ThickAsThieves: lol

04:13:49 ThickAsThieves: how cna this possibly be useful

04:14:05 greenspan_fan: Idk, I am having a great time w/ my array of proxies

04:14:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00514814 = 0.278 BTC [+] {2}

04:14:20 bloctoc: It will help government determine the size of the bailout required

04:14:37 asciilifeform: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-24/another-successful-banker-found-dead

04:14:39 nubbins`: this just in, obama bails out gox

04:14:39 ozbot: Another "Successful Banker" Found Dead | Zero Hedge

04:14:48 ThickAsThieves: at least gox has the courtesy to die under $150

04:14:54 greenspan_fan: TO THE MOON!

04:14:57 Apocalyptic: http://www.canyouwithdrawfrommtgox.com/

04:14:58 ozbot: Can you withdraw from Mt.Gox?

04:15:04 greenspan_fan: (no)

04:15:39 ThickAsThieves: someone should start a blog of pornstar deaths

04:15:51 ThickAsThieves: maybe there's a connection

04:15:59 greenspan_fan: man I am going to feel really bad if gox exec actually off themselves

04:16:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00518412 = 0.4251 BTC [+] {2}

04:16:45 greenspan_fan: I am picturing it now: suicide note partially obscured by condensation from the frappuchino placed on top

04:17:07 Bones_: I'm thinking more like yakuza as you said

04:17:11 Bones_: Very public

04:17:13 ThickAsThieves: ratpoisonichino

04:17:46 ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuyx4/hey_charlie_shrem_was_this_the_good_news_on_the/

04:17:47 ozbot: Hey Charlie Shrem, was this the good news on the horizon you were talking about? : Bitcoin

04:17:52 ThickAsThieves: lol

04:18:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.000869 = 0.1738 BTC [+]

04:18:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00518999 = 0.3892 BTC [+]

04:18:22 greenspan_fan: or satashi nakamoto, the real brains behind mt. gox, swoops in to bail everyone out with his million bitcoin stash

04:18:45 ThickAsThieves: http://www.domaininvesting.com/andy-booth-sells-gox-com/

04:18:46 ozbot: Andy Booth Sells Gox.com | DomainInvesting.com

04:19:05 ThickAsThieves: On February 21, 2014, Andy Booth was listed as the domain name registrant, according to a historical Whois record.

04:19:22 cazalla: would this resolve as yes if they rebrand http://bitbet.us/bet/751/mtgox-out-of-business-in-2014/

04:19:36 ThickAsThieves: My brother met domain broker Joe Politzer in Singapore who got excited about gox.com and then I said he could try to sell it if he wanted. He called Karpeles and Gox to find out if they wanted it and immediately they expressed pretty strong interest. I’ve asked Mark if it’s ok to publish details (no response as yet).”

04:20:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00518999 = 0.3841 BTC [+] {2}

04:20:14 greenspan_fan: don't think mark's going to be responding to anybody

04:20:52 greenspan_fan: the question remains, though, who got the 700 000 btc?

04:20:57 ThickAsThieves: this is who did the deal http://dn.biz/

04:21:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC

04:21:16 ThickAsThieves: according to the article*

04:21:39 the20year: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuozv/mtgox_just_proceeded_a_bunch_of_jpy_withdrawal/

04:21:39 ozbot: Mt.Gox just proceeded a bunch of JPY withdrawal today : Bitcoin

04:21:46 jurov: hi mircea_popescu, all according to plan?

04:21:58 mircea_popescu: jurov what specifically ?

04:22:12 Bugpowder: lol

04:22:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00515 = 1.03 BTC [-]

04:22:17 jurov: gox is done

04:22:17 greenspan_fan: have you heard about mt gox?

04:22:22 Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, you missed some drama

04:22:25 mircea_popescu: i just woke up!

04:22:31 dexX7: haha

04:22:32 ThickAsThieves: wake up faster!

04:22:35 Apocalyptic: it's a shitstorm out there

04:22:35 mircea_popescu: ><

04:22:42 greenspan_fan: this should be like christmas for you

04:22:44 mircea_popescu: so i should wake up for the derpage ?

04:22:49 ThickAsThieves: www.gox.com

04:22:56 asciilifeform: let the man sleep, folks. he sleeps, what, once a week?

04:22:57 mircea_popescu: what is this, derpworld ?

04:22:59 mircea_popescu: lmao

04:23:13 greenspan_fan: a really suspicious slide deck about mt gox going under surfaced

04:23:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.0051335 = 0.3491 BTC [-] {2}

04:23:19 mircea_popescu: derp.

04:23:21 ThickAsThieves: he doesnt need sleep, just to avoid sunlight

04:23:30 greenspan_fan: seems like it was legit; they've essentially gone dark

04:23:30 mircea_popescu: listen, all this is a lot less exciting if YOU KNOW IT WILL HAPPEM

04:23:36 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now i have to kill you.

04:23:44 ThickAsThieves: turn me

04:23:55 mircea_popescu: lol

04:23:58 ThickAsThieves: :)

04:24:05 mircea_popescu: i just tried to log into twitter as mircea popsicu

04:24:10 Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, I would like your opinion on https://www.dropbox.com/s/qhl8b6k1rya78xc/209050732-MtGox-Situation-Crisis-Strategy-Draft.pdf

04:24:13 asciilifeform: 'for what have i prepared this beautiful golden stake?'

04:24:34 Vexual: bugpowders running gox add on matlab

04:24:41 mircea_popescu: lmao

04:25:23 greenspan_fan: so did you hear about this in advance?

04:25:30 kakobrekla: o, now we have gif http://i.imgur.com/T2RudcB.gif

04:25:41 ThickAsThieves: nice!

04:25:43 greenspan_fan: it seemed like the btc foundation peopel knew

04:25:54 mircea_popescu: lol good gif

04:26:06 asciilifeform: goes well with that other bouncyball gif

04:26:10 asciilifeform: the one with the dildo

04:26:11 greenspan_fan: given that they all prepared joint statements

04:26:14 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan basically, mtgox demise was decided april 2013, at the secret conference nobody went to.

04:26:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 75 @ 0.0055 = 0.4125 BTC

04:26:26 mod6: lol @ gif

04:26:47 mircea_popescu: and the fact that the scammer troop has coordinated ballet on the topic is really just a sign of how fucking stupid they are.

04:27:06 greenspan_fan: they had to revise their statements after release

04:27:12 mircea_popescu: point in case.

04:27:20 greenspan_fan: presumably on the advice of lawyers

04:27:28 mircea_popescu: kinda the only reason i like vessenes. he's so fucking dumb.

04:27:32 ThickAsThieves: on the advice of me!

04:27:40 greenspan_fan: wait, you're not a lawyer?

04:27:40 the20year: did the buildabetterburgers take down gox?

04:27:43 Vexual: flee immediately!

04:27:45 mircea_popescu: thickaslawyers ?

04:27:52 ThickAsThieves: lawyersasthieves

04:28:02 mircea_popescu: sas is good...

04:28:05 greenspan_fan: hey man, some of my best friends are thieves

04:28:31 dexX7: https://twitter.com/magicalgox/status/438161500537380864 wtf

04:28:32 ozbot: Twitter / MagicalGox: Send me 1BTC and I will resolve ...

04:28:43 Bugpowder: dexX7: fake accy

04:29:00 Vexual: Bugpowder, is matlab saying when yet?

04:29:54 ThickAsThieves: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57619465-93/bitcoin-exchange-mt-gox-offline-amid-insolvency-charges/

04:29:55 ozbot: Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox offline amid 'insolvency' charges | Internet & Media - CNET News

04:30:30 mircea_popescu: Bugpowder kinda what happens when you delete your posts, you know ? people start the takeover.

04:30:32 Bugpowder: Vexual: Still doing experiments

04:30:46 Bugpowder: haven't tracked it yet

04:31:02 ThickAsThieves: pdf claims 700k btc lost over "years"

04:31:12 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it is roughly true.

04:31:21 mircea_popescu: not that that's an excuse for anything.

04:31:39 greenspan_fan: what is interesting, though, is that you might be able to follow the block chain from the earlier transactions

04:32:21 greenspan_fan: I'm betting julian assange did it, to fund his jihad against america

04:32:29 mircea_popescu: lol

04:32:38 mircea_popescu: it's their nest egg.

04:32:55 greenspan_fan: bitcoin becomes the national currency of ecuador and he flees britain as a citizen

04:32:59 ThickAsThieves: maybe he'll have a co-press relase with snowden

04:33:08 asciilifeform: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/02/iranians-hacked-navy-network-for-4-months-not-a-surprise/

04:33:08 ozbot: Iranians hacked Navy network for four months? Not a surprise. | Ars Technica

04:33:11 greenspan_fan: no man, snowden's satoshi

04:33:14 asciilifeform: tldr: run more winblows, usg

04:33:16 greenspan_fan: he's got his own bitcoins

04:33:21 ThickAsThieves: snowtoshi

04:33:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10975 BTC [+]

04:33:39 dexX7: there is also this post from wsj earlier: http://archive.is/NLLpV - "According to documents seen by The Wall Street Journal, Tibanne Co., which operates Mt. Gox, is expected to generate a small profit in the fiscal year ending in March from exchange transaction fees. The forecast, however, assumes bitcoin prices well above current levels."

04:34:33 greenspan_fan: https://www.tibanne.com/article/7/we-re-hiring-

04:34:33 ozbot: Tibanne Co. Ltd.

04:34:46 ThickAsThieves: lol

04:34:52 nubbins`: hiring what, liquidators?

04:34:55 ThickAsThieves: CSS3 needed!

04:35:02 mircea_popescu: forum experts.

04:35:02 greenspan_fan: Ability to comment properly work is important

04:35:30 greenspan_fan: so when's the mpex ipo for gox.com?

04:35:49 mircea_popescu: heh.

04:36:05 nubbins`: still say that pdf is bogus

04:36:07 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2165830363/Peter-Portrait.jpg << seriously, look at this guy. doesn't he look like the 110 iq barrier is a bridge too far ?

04:36:19 ThickAsThieves: an IPO to buy the domain after scammers are done with it?

04:36:33 Vexual: nub, i think it'd be hard to miss that much btc over time

04:36:35 mircea_popescu: wasn't i explaining before how goxshit isn't worth money ?

04:36:43 asciilifeform: unrelated, but relevant to 'interesting times': http://bloodandtreasure.typepad.com/blood_treasure/2004/09/further_chronic.html

04:36:48 mircea_popescu: Vexual we knew they were in the red.

04:36:53 greenspan_fan: it was a joke

04:36:57 Vexual: and they knew?

04:37:01 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/mtgox-and-ancient-bitcoin-history-the-straight-dope/

04:37:02 ozbot: MtGox and ancient Bitcoin history - the straight dope. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

04:37:04 mircea_popescu: time to re-read this.

04:37:06 greenspan_fan: and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations"

04:37:12 mircea_popescu: yes vex. they were in the red up until late 2012.

04:37:42 mircea_popescu: i suppose that article may read differently in light of events.

04:37:43 nubbins`: "Successive emperors became the captors of various factions of eunuchs."

04:37:50 nubbins`: the type of shit that'd put House of Cards to shame

04:38:37 Apocalyptic: and that guy looks like he's experienced a couple "non-standard deviations" // heh

04:38:58 mircea_popescu: nubbins` what is house of cards anyway ?

04:38:58 greenspan_fan: did you see the latest season? I'd say it was a contender, even sans eunuchs

04:39:08 mircea_popescu: coupla titters on twitter keep derping about it.

04:39:10 greenspan_fan: also, I think it's supposed to be GNU/eunuchs

04:39:18 mircea_popescu: aaaahahahaha

04:39:52 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: netflix-only television show based on a bbc television show based on a novel. the netflix version centers around u.s. political intrigue, specifically kevin spacey's machinations towards the presidency

04:40:24 greenspan_fan: with significant inspiration from caro's biography of lyndon johnson

04:40:25 nubbins`: worth watching, we swallowed season 2 over about 4 days

04:40:51 mircea_popescu: oh

04:40:54 nubbins`: lots of intrigue, subterfuge, etc

04:40:55 greenspan_fan: anyone else read that biography?

04:40:55 ThickAsThieves: http://imgur.com/xFp7iVc

04:40:56 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

04:41:08 greenspan_fan: hahaha

04:41:25 mircea_popescu: ajhahaha

04:41:33 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you got a twittar ?

04:41:41 nubbins`: greenspan_fan: never read the bio, HoC s2 was great tho

04:41:51 nubbins`: they've been renewed for a third, hey?

04:42:06 ThickAsThieves: i have only the altcoin twatter

04:42:15 greenspan_fan: nubbins I am angry that I'll have to wait for a year, though

04:42:20 mircea_popescu: what was it again ?

04:42:33 greenspan_fan: you must be the only altcoin creator without 10,000 sockpuppets

04:42:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 18 @ 0.16230094 = 2.9214 BTC [-]

04:42:35 ThickAsThieves: @therealaltcoin

04:43:25 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438172294050234368

04:43:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00088332 = 18.5497 BTC [-] {2}

04:44:02 nubbins`: http://imgur.com/CWzXmDV

04:44:03 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

04:44:04 nubbins`: daww ;(

04:44:33 ThickAsThieves: lol

04:44:35 greenspan_fan: isn't that like the clown from those stephen king novels?

04:44:36 nubbins`: ^ this is the proper way to deal with this issue, not a fucking cloudflare snapshot

04:44:44 mircea_popescu: lol

04:44:51 nubbins`: what's a snapshot of an exchange website going to do for me?

04:44:53 mircea_popescu: nubbins` you actually got that ? or was it a lol ?

04:45:00 Vexual: i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports

04:45:01 nubbins`: at least make me feel bad

04:45:08 nubbins`: mircea_popescu it's real!

04:45:16 nubbins`: i thought the twitter fail whale was neat

04:45:21 nubbins`: this is next-level

04:45:21 ThickAsThieves: "Interestingly the folks at secondmarket called me today to say that there will be a one week halt on all new BIT purchases and their trading department is no longer taking any new positions."

04:45:26 ThickAsThieves: from a friend of mine

04:45:30 ThickAsThieves: (not trolling)

04:45:36 mircea_popescu: i wonder if magicdunce will shoot thru? he must have thousands of high res passports <<< EPIC

04:45:53 ThickAsThieves: i wonder if 2ndmarket used gox

04:45:56 ThickAsThieves: biglolz!

04:45:58 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they did yes.

04:46:01 mircea_popescu: because they know better.

04:46:03 ThickAsThieves: hahahahaha

04:46:04 ThickAsThieves: ahahah

04:46:14 mircea_popescu: you know how like a certain fucktarded ceo is making his own stock exchgange ? cause he knows better ?

04:46:25 mircea_popescu: you know how ycombinator isn't hiring BingoBoingo to tell them what's what ?

04:46:36 mircea_popescu: you know how the twinkleloss brothers don't feel like they need to be here ?

04:46:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0005 = 0.5 BTC [-] {2}

04:46:46 mircea_popescu: that's exactly how second market thinks it knows better than me

04:46:57 mircea_popescu: the common word describing these is, of course, stupidity.

04:47:14 greenspan_fan: you could make your website prettier, at least

04:47:15 Bones_: If everyone was in here, then we wouldn't make as much money?

04:47:24 greenspan_fan: and while you're at it, make your blog free

04:47:28 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan or i could add spikes on my cock, to leave better marks on assholes.

04:47:30 mircea_popescu: either way.

04:48:04 ThickAsThieves: you could lose a cock that way

04:48:07 greenspan_fan: but gox was able to siphon off 700 000 btc because they had javascript and css basically

04:48:07 ThickAsThieves: be careful

04:48:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 546 @ 0.00445591 = 2.4329 BTC [-] {20}

04:49:03 ThickAsThieves: @Mircea_Popescu @therealaltcoin Lol even google image can tell its peter

04:49:05 ThickAsThieves: winnar

04:49:24 ThickAsThieves: pay google 1000 ATC

04:50:11 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan you have to take into consideration 80+% of that was when btc was < $1

04:50:31 Vexual: still a lot of milkshakes

04:50:32 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves if google tweets @me i will sure.

04:50:36 Bugpowder: OK... let's get back to racking these cold wallets

04:50:49 ThickAsThieves: k

04:50:57 ThickAsThieves: we'll read your findings really hard

04:51:08 Vexual: why .info?

04:51:14 nubbins`: ah, bc.info has edited their statement as well

04:51:22 nubbins`: no more mention of insolvency

04:51:38 greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu but surely you have some pretty sick programmers working for you? idk much about web frontends, so idk if it's bad security

04:51:39 benkay: much drama and lulz today?

04:51:39 Apocalyptic: amateur communication

04:51:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2387 BTC [+]

04:51:47 Apocalyptic: if you knew benkay ..

04:52:11 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan what do you mean ?

04:52:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00518998 = 0.2284 BTC [+]

04:53:32 greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu presumably if you/your employees could implement a sophisticated exchange (with all the countermeasures in order to ensure continuous operation) you could at least add some css to mpex.co

04:53:46 mircea_popescu: provided i wanted to.

04:54:23 mircea_popescu: nubbins` da fuck is bc.info

04:54:35 ThickAsThieves: cockchain

04:54:35 nubbins`: i abbreviated blockchain.info

04:54:46 nubbins`: kind of forgot that it makes a link that people can click ;(

04:55:08 mircea_popescu: a.

04:55:38 ThickAsThieves: lol http://cockchain.info/

04:55:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 765 @ 0.00522621 = 3.9981 BTC [+] {3}

04:56:12 Vexual: i guess bp dont want prtd matleb on a machine that has blockchain

04:56:26 greenspan_fan: at this point idk whether it's positive (as a mark of differentiation) or whether you're losing business because it seems like it's pre-1999

04:56:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.00525893 = 0.7047 BTC [+] {3}

04:56:54 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan what business am i losing ?

04:57:09 Vexual: sub 140iq sub 50btc

04:57:32 Apocalyptic: .d

04:57:32 ozbot: 3,129,573,174.52229 | Next Diff in 598 blocks | Estimated Change: 20.5183% in 3d 7h 2m 4s

04:57:39 mircea_popescu: leading question : how much business is nyse losing by not having a drive-thru presence in most shopping malls ?

04:57:50 Vexual: 12?

04:57:58 mircea_popescu: leading question #2 : what could the concept of "Accredited investor" mean in bitcoin, and how would one go about meaningfully implementing it ?

04:58:02 Apocalyptic: nice analogy mircea

04:58:16 greenspan_fan: I actually bought some options for ibm at wal-mart earlier today, so times are changing

04:58:32 mircea_popescu: pankkake pls to 1000 atc to 1CgNLdNUaXFawURSBuX4xBHv53GhGZ3XuC ty

04:58:53 jurov: greenspan_fan: clearly there's market gap for you to exploit

04:58:54 mircea_popescu: greenspan_ the times are only changing in the sense the us is going under.

04:59:01 mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as eternal truths.

04:59:28 mircea_popescu: but yes, as the j man says, nothing keeps you from doing brokerage for any market segment you identify and think you can serve.

04:59:42 greenspan_fan: putting it another way, given your thoughts re: art, you could consider patronizing some pre-autistic teenager with a color palette and a dream

04:59:47 Bones_: greenspan_fan - if anything his website exudes "dude who knows what the fuck he is doing". Not to suck your dick or anything mp but anyway that's how I saw the website

04:59:59 ThickAsThieves: to #2, measured by your bitcoin holdings, no?

05:00:08 benkay: it's pretty easy

05:00:15 benkay: an accredited bitcoin investor accumulates bitcoins

05:00:26 benkay: they are accredited by virtue of having and accumulating bitcoins

05:00:29 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves inasmuch as one intends to measure sophistication, bitcoin holdings alone would show on the historical record an insufficient measure.

05:00:40 fract4l: mircea_popescu: did you predict GOX demise??

05:00:43 mircea_popescu: why ty Bones_

05:00:49 mircea_popescu: fract4l no. i announced it.

05:00:49 benkay: that's why the accumulation's important, mircea_popescu

05:00:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 404 @ 0.0053995 = 2.1814 BTC [-] {2}

05:01:21 copumpkin: joe shmoe mined 10000 coins on his old laptop in 2009 as a joke

05:01:24 copumpkin: he's accredited

05:01:28 copumpkin: cause he has a lot of money

05:01:33 mircea_popescu: provided he didn't lose the laptop

05:01:34 copumpkin: seems a little awkward :)

05:01:37 mircea_popescu: (which most did)

05:01:40 benkay: copumpkin you missed the part about accumulation.

05:01:51 greenspan_fan: Bones_ only because he's influential enough that people ought to be aware

05:02:06 mircea_popescu: i just got an email from a friend, it goes "hey can i have like 10-20 bux worth of bitcoin cause im testing this service and i lost all the btc i mined on my laptop back in the day"

05:02:11 mircea_popescu: tru story. inbox of this morn.

05:02:41 copumpkin: mircea_popescu: hey, can you send me 10 coins? thanks

05:02:44 ThickAsThieves: satoshi still emails you?

05:02:45 mircea_popescu: lol

05:02:48 mircea_popescu: lmao

05:02:51 nubbins`: heh!

05:02:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2879 @ 0.00539996 = 15.5465 BTC [+]

05:03:03 mircea_popescu: copumpkin no more bentleys for you!

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05:03:08 jurov: !b 7

05:03:09 copumpkin: mircea_popescu: :(

05:03:22 copumpkin: I should sell my MPOE

05:03:24 nubbins`: too slow ;(

05:03:26 copumpkin: but I can't bring myself to

05:03:31 *: copumpkin holds onto his MPOE

05:03:40 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan but srsly, it's legitimate. if you think you can help some people do shit, help them. nothing wrong with that.

05:03:52 mircea_popescu: a large chunk of the way i designed mpex is so as to empower people to grow their own stuff

05:04:03 mircea_popescu: rather than try and corner the entire market. cornered markets don't grow.

05:04:17 Bones_: see https://coinbr.com/

05:04:19 jurov: he insist to help you to proper css, you know

05:04:35 mircea_popescu: if anything ima take the website down eventually.

05:04:42 mircea_popescu: just... whatever, it's there.

05:04:54 fract4l: interesting that MP, the #1 hated guy on the forums, turns out to have more integrity then anyone thought......

05:05:04 fract4l: he also has spot-on predictions

05:05:06 mircea_popescu: fract4l isn't that how things normally work out ?

05:05:18 copumpkin: I trust mircea_popescu to be honest

05:05:22 copumpkin: he's just a little odd

05:05:27 copumpkin: but he thinks the same about me

05:05:30 mircea_popescu: you can say asshole, i dun mind.

05:05:37 fract4l: mircea_popescu: haha... i suppose so. maybe your picture on the camel made people not take you seriously?

05:05:38 copumpkin: nah, you're not 100% asshole

05:05:46 mircea_popescu: fract4l when am i on a camel ?!

05:05:51 Bones_: lol

05:05:54 jurov: lool

05:05:54 nubbins`: ^ HEH

05:05:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 442 @ 0.00539998 = 2.3868 BTC [+] {2}

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05:06:03 jurov: !b 10

05:06:03 mircea_popescu: copumpkin not even women are 100% women you know ?

05:06:04 ninjashogun: hi guys

05:06:06 nubbins`: it was a horse, ya racist!

05:06:07 Apocalyptic: fract4l, how dare you, that's a great picture

05:06:09 mircea_popescu: hi ninjashogun

05:06:14 copumpkin: mircea_popescu: didn't think so!

05:06:16 ThickAsThieves: sup ninja

05:06:25 ninjashogun: hi mircea_popescu hi ThickAsThieves

05:06:44 ninjashogun: Not much ThickAsThieves . I'm raising $50K for a new job web site based on applied graph theory (not to relationships/connections - something else)

05:06:50 ThickAsThieves: OneFixt did you at least diversify into other exchanges already?

05:06:50 ThickAsThieves: <@OneFixt> ThickAsThieves: a tiny bit

05:06:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3316 @ 0.00539996 = 17.9063 BTC [-] {3}

05:06:59 fract4l: Apocalyptic: hey, personally i think the camel picture is hilarious....

05:07:03 ThickAsThieves: i trolled the guy enough you'd think he'd have learned...

05:07:13 fract4l: ThickAsThieves: did you lose any coin on gox?

05:07:16 Bugpowder: OneFixt lost his coins?!? Oh man.

05:07:17 ThickAsThieves: lol

05:07:25 Bugpowder: The BITCOIN ORACLE

05:07:32 Bugpowder: Couldn't see the shut down coming

05:07:35 Apocalyptic: Bugpowder, he claimed to have almost everything in gox

05:07:36 fract4l: well, losing my coins on gox is going to seriously motivate me to work harder to make more BTC.

05:07:38 ThickAsThieves: i used goz like twice in feb

05:07:43 ThickAsThieves: 2013

05:07:43 OneFixt: Bugpowder: i have enough, Bugpowder, don't worry

05:07:44 ninjashogun: WhatsApp just sold for $16Billion, and there is a huge bubble in the valley . technical jobs are very scarce. we have 1) something much better than search, based on graph theory (without sayin gmore) and 2) a reason people will upload their profiles for this reason :) We can get a lot of technical profiles just from launch / announcements (on hacker news etc)

05:07:53 mircea_popescu: Bugpowder we have an oracle too ?

05:08:06 fract4l: i'm *SHOCKED* that bitcoinbuilder is still above 0.00000001

05:08:06 Duffer1: ninjashogun tell us more about how to invest

05:08:08 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun unless you manage to lay zuck you're not in this game.

05:08:09 Bugpowder: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle

05:08:10 ozbot: Bitcoin-Analysis (BitcoinOracle) on Twitter

05:08:17 Bones_: ninjashogun, will this site help me get laid

05:08:24 asciilifeform: 'technical jobs are very scarce' << wait what

05:08:27 asciilifeform: what planet.

05:08:30 Bugpowder: fract4l: I'd buy at 0.01

05:08:30 greenspan_fan: better than search based on graph theory?

05:08:33 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he means technical people.

05:08:36 ninjashogun: asciilifeform, I meant talent! Sorry.

05:08:38 ninjashogun: yes, sorry

05:08:38 ninjashogun: :)

05:08:42 greenspan_fan: are you on crack? all search uses graph theory

05:08:50 benkay: now now greenspan_fan

05:08:54 benkay: settle down

05:08:57 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan in the sense al qm uses matrixes, sure.

05:09:03 ninjashogun: No, keyword search doesn't use graph theory. It uses set theory. (In the form of database design)

05:09:09 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla check it out, your shitty chan is about to break 200

05:09:25 greenspan_fan: sorry, that was kinda rude

05:09:42 greenspan_fan: but, for instance, facebook's whole deal is modelling via social graph

05:09:45 ninjashogun: database queries are applied set theory. Ours is different, it's based on graph theory and is a very novel application that results in much better matches ,and ALSO a good reason for people to upload their profiles.

05:09:46 kakobrekla: its you ppl that make it shitty!

05:09:47 ThickAsThieves: all design uses grid theory, coincidence?

05:09:48 copumpkin: ninjashogun: pagerank is a graph algorithm :)

05:09:56 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485913 << anyone got any advice ?

05:09:57 mircea_popescu: lolz

05:09:58 ozbot: How to recover your money as a small time investor with funds in mtgox

05:10:13 ninjashogun: copumpkin, yes, you're right it is :)

05:10:37 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun basically everyone's point is that regardless how you personally look at it, mathematic reality is accessible to everyone on their own terms.

05:10:42 greenspan_fan: also, idk how they teach qm in romania, but you can get by OK without knowing matrix mechanics

05:10:46 nubbins`: ;;seen mike_c

05:10:46 gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: :) hopefully i can run it on an actual machine and get better performance

05:10:56 ninjashogun: So just to put this in context I have just connected this week with the other mathetician I am creating this site with, so it is a very fresh startup opportunity. To whoever asked about the means of investing, standard terms as you would suggest based on hearing abou thte opportunity etc.

05:10:59 benkay: hoo booo whaaat qm without matrix operations?

05:11:02 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan yes, but that doesn't mean any part of qm is inaccessible to matrix.

05:11:14 dexX7: this is somehow sad.. i wonder for how many bitcoin was a pain instead of pleasure

05:11:21 mircea_popescu: dexX7 hopefully for most.

05:11:22 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, I have no idea why you wrote thta to me

05:11:23 mircea_popescu: you know, like sex.

05:11:45 ninjashogun: "mathematic reality is accessible to everyone on their own terms"

05:11:53 nubbins`: ^ it is

05:11:55 greenspan_fan: but I always conceptualized pagerank for instance as being essentially graph theoretic in nature

05:12:00 ninjashogun: Yes, it is.

05:12:04 ninjashogun: Absolutely, greenspan_fan

05:12:06 mircea_popescu: so good for you :)

05:12:10 ninjashogun: Ours is a bit different.

05:12:14 copumpkin: a big-ass matrix is a graph

05:12:14 Duffer1: what's your business plan?

05:12:16 ninjashogun: But in some ways very similar to pagerank

05:12:20 copumpkin: well, a square matrix is

05:12:30 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 it's a start-up, what business plan. they maybe have an idea is all.

05:12:43 mircea_popescu: copumpkin i thought it didn't have to be square.

05:12:55 mircea_popescu: you can generalise the graph space neh ?

05:12:59 nubbins`: ^

05:13:07 nubbins`: pick yr number of dimensions

05:13:08 copumpkin: mircea_popescu: well, there's an obvious interpretation of a square matrix as a graph

05:13:12 ninjashogun: Duffer1 - hi, Duffer1 . The business plan is to get profiles for free, based on the novel application, which will cause people to want to upload their profiles to us, and use them to fill vacancies scraped from other sites. (Meaning for starters the other sites get the money from it.)

05:13:16 mircea_popescu: copumpkin a that sure.

05:13:17 nubbins`: 5 if you want, all the rules still work

05:13:25 nubbins`: you just won't be able to make a physical model of it anymore

05:13:32 copumpkin: then matrix multiplication "walks" the graph

05:13:34 copumpkin: it's kind of fun

05:13:39 greenspan_fan: ninjashogun the scraping part could be a thing unto itself

05:13:41 ninjashogun: Duffer1, then when we have a set of profiles and a critical mass, we can get listings ourselves directly, and get the money from them. However, there has to be content initially.

05:13:54 copumpkin: you can then multiply graphs with unusual semirings to get more interesting behavior

05:13:57 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun specifically, what is the problem you are solving ?

05:14:01 ninjashogun: greenspan_fan, I don't think so. I am sure every job site would be open to us sending people to their ads :)

05:14:02 nubbins`: it comforts me that math still works with more than three spatial dimensions

05:14:13 copumpkin: nubbins`: it breaks at 7, sorry

05:14:15 ThickAsThieves: your business plan has no business in it though

05:14:23 nubbins`: D: why didn't anyone tell me

05:14:47 mircea_popescu: nubbins` it's okay, Mr Hig Uyse proved that any set of cats can be packed in less than 7 dimensions.

05:14:50 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, the specific problem we're solving is "connecting jobs with job-seekers". I.e. finding the best qualified candidate for an employer, or the place to work for a job-seeker. BETTER than a text search where they both just blurt out what they need (exactly) on the part of the employer or everything they have done (exactly) on the part of the job seeker.

05:14:52 greenspan_fan: you don't need business, just data. Cash out and pass the buck to facebook or whomever

05:14:56 nubbins`: phew

05:15:00 ninjashogun: which is how keyword search (status quo) works.

05:15:07 nubbins`: bad news for the imgur giraffe tho

05:15:16 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun but how do you account for flexibility in either side ?

05:15:25 greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu not a fan of string theory?

05:15:29 asciilifeform: ;;google man woman dog matching

05:15:29 gribble: NP-completemess | Equivalence: ; Man, Woman, Dog, seeking stable relationship. - Math StackExchange: ; Dog and Dog Chinese Love Compatibility - Astrology.com:

05:15:30 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, exactly.

05:15:32 ThickAsThieves: no one wants to fill out another resume

05:15:35 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, that is the problem we have solved.

05:15:37 ninjashogun: Yes.

05:15:37 mircea_popescu: (some people don't want to do a specific job, but whatever, some people don't want something specific done, but whatever IS done) ?

05:15:54 ninjashogun: Yes.

05:15:55 ninjashogun: Exactly.

05:16:00 ninjashogun: This is the issue that we solve.

05:16:01 antephialtic: isn't that just the stable marriage problem?

05:16:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.48000142 = 3.36 BTC [+] {2}

05:16:12 nubbins`: some people don't want the best and brightest, they just want people who can do an okay job

05:16:13 ninjashogun: No other site does this - other sites just are glorified text searches or databse searches.

05:16:21 mircea_popescu: this is true.

05:16:26 nubbins`: unfortunately all these people are in btc ;(

05:16:28 mircea_popescu: this much is true, job market is a scandal.

05:16:32 ninjashogun: yes

05:16:37 ninjashogun: and we're set to shake it up

05:16:41 nubbins`: heh

05:16:43 mircea_popescu: well you're set to try.

05:16:46 mircea_popescu: let's not confuse the two.

05:17:02 copumpkin: I saw my profile(s) on gild.com the other day

05:17:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 58 @ 0.00539997 = 0.3132 BTC [+]

05:17:09 greenspan_fan: also, consider how many jobs are filled by referrals

05:17:09 ThickAsThieves: he's graph to shake it up

05:17:13 copumpkin: it was interesting, because they thought there were two of me

05:17:14 nubbins`: a job search where mediocre employees can find already-defeated employers

05:17:24 copumpkin: and one of them had high expertise, low desirability, and the other had low expertise high desirability

05:17:37 nubbins`: as cheeky as that sounds, you're actually onto something there

05:17:51 nubbins`: tier 2 job search for people who know they're not up to snuff

05:17:57 copumpkin: finding good hires is actually pretty hard

05:18:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.473 = 4.257 BTC [-]

05:18:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1571 @ 0.00463921 = 7.2882 BTC [-] {24}

05:18:11 ninjashogun: So I am looking for a roughly $50K investment (nominal, could be less). Is anyone here in a position to conssider that, has a portfolio and has been involved iwth other startups in the past? An interest in mathematics (specifically graph theory) helps immensely.

05:18:11 copumpkin: so if ninjashogun can get it up and running, he'll have a lot of willing customers

05:18:16 greenspan_fan: my idea for a start-up involves me applying to thousands of places for remote work, then farming out the resulting offers to india

05:18:18 ninjashogun: yes

05:18:18 copumpkin: but it's a tough market :)

05:18:27 copumpkin: lots of other people want in too

05:18:29 copumpkin: like those gild folks

05:18:32 greenspan_fan: since the netflix for prostitutes was immediately rejected by y combinator

05:18:34 copumpkin: and several others I've seen

05:18:35 ninjashogun: the moment I announce on hackernews (hwere I have a profile) at the right time of day, I will have some sign-ups

05:18:48 antephialtic: can you specify the specific graph theory problem you are trying to solve? (other than simple bipartate matching)

05:18:50 ninjashogun: Yes, but we have an innovation they don't.

05:18:52 copumpkin: I want good signups though

05:18:53 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438181249799438336 << for everyone's lulz.

05:18:54 ozbot: Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Specifically, @CharlieShrem ...

05:18:56 copumpkin: and the good people aren't looking

05:19:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 284 @ 0.00427064 = 1.2129 BTC [-] {9}

05:19:12 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun people here are worth well over a billion all together.

05:19:14 ninjashogun: antephialtic - No, I don't want to specify it here. It's not about solving an unsolved problem, but rather applying existing theory in a novel way.

05:19:26 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, i'll bet you're not getting a dime so far.

05:19:33 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, ok... that doesn't really help me though :) I'm not here raising Series A.

05:19:40 greenspan_fan: yeah, does it have CSS? that's what I want to know

05:20:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1130 @ 0.00415 = 4.6895 BTC [-] {2}

05:20:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17382 @ 0.00088296 = 15.3476 BTC [-]

05:20:13 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, it doesn't matter if they're worth $10M altogether or $10B. As long as at least one person here has a portfolio and is interested in startups

05:20:33 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun they're also inclined to play, something vc's aren't normally. ATC got started because people were bored and so far cost about 50k or thereabouts.

05:20:39 ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker

05:20:40 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 446.96, Best ask: 448.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.94000, Last trade: 448.9, 24 hour volume: 66688.95383623, 24 hour low: 442.12, 24 hour high: 579.34, 24 hour vwap: 529.068851738

05:20:43 mircea_popescu: but you're nowhere near the zone.

05:20:47 ninjashogun: antephialitc - the specific graph theory problem is related to shortest-path

05:21:01 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, interesting

05:21:01 mircea_popescu: "Ice-breaking ships help keep Chesapeake Bay waters safe" <<< check out all the global warming.

05:21:11 copumpkin: ninjashogun: here's a cute way to compute shortest paths: http://r6.ca/blog/20110808T035622Z.html

05:21:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00420001 = 0.42 BTC [+] {4}

05:21:13 greenspan_fan: my new startup idea: an automated, high-quality "human" activity generator for nascent startups looking for funding

05:21:23 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan i'm down.

05:21:28 Duffer1: lol

05:21:38 mircea_popescu: if you manage to insert it into the next round of ycombinator a la sokal, you get a bonus.

05:21:40 ThickAsThieves: i like my search engine idea better

05:21:44 davout_: greenspan_fan: interesting

05:21:52 Duffer1: ninjashogun do you have any product at all atm to show?

05:21:55 mircea_popescu: davout you two can work together.

05:22:15 ThickAsThieves: customizable filter templates, fully weightable factors, totally transparent seo

05:22:17 ninjashogun: Duffer1 - no, I just met and spoke with my cofounder today :)

05:22:25 davout: no, i'm a create-your-own-exchange consultant

05:22:30 asciilifeform: folks who think they have an efficient solution to an np-complete problem should not settle for small change.

05:22:45 asciilifeform: like paltry $1B

05:22:45 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, above where you say "ATC got started because people were bored" - what is ATC pls?

05:22:48 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun for the other part of your question, i would say everyone speaking here knows a lot of math.

05:22:51 copumpkin: asciilifeform: which NP complete problem?

05:22:54 mircea_popescu: review the logs for various lulz.

05:22:56 greenspan_fan: it doesn't have to be a solution, just an approximation

05:23:03 mircea_popescu: (do you know how to review the logs ?)

05:23:27 greenspan_fan: I get really sick of people defending btc-dev not doing important things because they're "probably" np-complete

05:23:27 ThickAsThieves: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/

05:23:40 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan you don't say.

05:23:44 ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log

05:23:48 mircea_popescu: IM SICKER OF IT THAN YOU FOO!!1111

05:24:01 ninjashogun: Here is the other person's profile that he responded with: "I am a full stack web/desktop/mobile developer. Currently my weapon of choice is C# for the back end stuff, and JavaScript for the front end. I am also versed in Objective-C (I have three apps on the app store). Daily my bread and butter is developing web apps. Lately I've been developing cross-platform mobile games. I have a degree in Math, so I know just a bit of graph theory... this

05:24:01 ninjashogun: project sounds interesting. I'm open and interested in hearing more about this project."

05:24:10 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/headbash-d.gif << i'm this sick of it.

05:24:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.0045 = 0.9 BTC [+] {3}

05:24:17 greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu ranking sickness of it is (probably) np-complete

05:24:20 ninjashogun: And for a bit of information, the team is distributed - he is in Kentucky and I am from Boston

05:24:28 ninjashogun: Duffer1 - is a distributed team a problem for you?

05:24:51 Duffer1: not even a little bit

05:24:55 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun listen, you're really misbehaving here, albeit perhaps unintentionally. the correct approach is to lurk and read the logs for about half a year. then you'll be in a position to meaningfully engage th dragons here.

05:25:08 mircea_popescu: i get that this doesn't help you any in the sense of getting you to do what you want to do

05:25:15 mircea_popescu: and while that is unfortunate, it's nevertheless what it is.

05:25:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 307 @ 0.0045 = 1.3815 BTC [+] {6}

05:25:28 ninjashogun: Duffer1, great.

05:25:34 greenspan_fan: alternatively, have some code people can look at

05:25:37 Duffer1: ^and it is genuinely to your benefit to take that advice

05:25:37 ninjashogun: Duffer1 I can PM you the specific graph application (in gerneral terms)

05:25:41 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/la-firma/ << perhaps see that as a primer.

05:25:42 ozbot: La firma pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

05:25:46 Duffer1: nono that's alright

05:25:54 ninjashogun: all right. though it's interesting

05:25:57 mircea_popescu: mutatis mutandis

05:26:11 ninjashogun: again, this is the idea that caused this startup to be created this week. (I did consult with advisors the last week or two about it.)

05:26:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.00450001 = 0.531 BTC [+]

05:26:33 Duffer1: keep this chan open when you can though, hang around

05:26:33 mircea_popescu: no, see, unless you can name an advisor and i can go

05:26:37 mircea_popescu: ;;rated advisor

05:26:38 gribble: You have not yet rated user advisor

05:26:47 mircea_popescu: and get a positive result, you haven't in fact consulted any advisors.

05:27:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0045001 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}

05:28:35 ninjashogun: Duffer1, thanks for the feedback

05:28:39 greenspan_fan: it isn't meant to be discouraging, just that you have to do some ground work, have something to show off (like a demo, or some sort of model, at least), before anyone can make an informed investment decision

05:28:48 Duffer1: ^.^

05:28:52 ninjashogun: greenspan_fan, well, obviously

05:29:21 ninjashogun: So what I was tihnking is that this isn't a real 'forum' (in that most IRC channels are basically just trolls etc) and that I would just escalate to another form of contact (skype etc) and be in touch while it gets rolled out

05:29:30 ninjashogun: the other thing is we don't REALLY have any capitalization requirements.

05:29:34 mircea_popescu: Bugpowder http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2014/a-paper-diagnostic-for-cancer-0224.html i imagine you saw that already ?

05:29:35 ninjashogun: it's all software, we have jobs at the moment

05:30:00 mircea_popescu: no, this is the real forum.

05:30:07 mircea_popescu: when the sec wanted to talk to me i forced them to come here.

05:30:12 ninjashogun: so out of a $50K investment, probably a few hundred would go to server costs and $47K would sit in the bank for six months. while we build it (Though I know that is not what investors like to hear)

05:30:22 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, you're kidding right?

05:30:27 mircea_popescu: i'm dead serious.

05:30:30 mircea_popescu: this is the forum.

05:30:34 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, um

05:30:43 greenspan_fan: personally, I think it would be cool to invest in a start up, but I'm kinda averse to giving cash to pseudonyms in irc who aren't incorporated, have no references, no demos

05:31:15 greenspan_fan: mircea_popescu when did the SEC come knocking?

05:31:33 mircea_popescu: at the rate we're going i'll prolly publish the bundle in a coupla weeks.

05:31:42 ninjashogun: greenspan_fan, so first of all obviously you would not give a cash to a pseduonmn :) We can get in touch if appropriate. Could you tell me a bit about yourself - do you have any investments in startups to date? (or been involved iwth one)? Do you like matheatics or theoretical computer science?

05:32:02 mircea_popescu: and you can see then.

05:32:10 Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: Nope, it sounds like a good idea, but I don't think it will really work. the reason the pregnancy ones work is the hormone level goes up >1000x. MMPs are not that unregulated, maybe 2-3x by volume? Need to read the paper but I imagine the ROC curve is pretty ugly.

05:32:29 Bugpowder: 'upregulated'

05:32:33 mircea_popescu: Bugpowder kinda what im doing here, trying to cheat

05:33:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29900 @ 0.0008839 = 26.4286 BTC [+] {2}

05:33:25 mircea_popescu: my head goes "yes, but maybe it goes up locally ?" but how would i know.

05:34:22 greenspan_fan: it's the new thing

05:34:31 greenspan_fan: metablomics. big data, and lots of urine

05:35:48 mircea_popescu: myeah.

05:36:03 benkay: "cool to invest in a startup"

05:36:06 benkay: fuck everything

05:36:09 mircea_popescu: so he's new, what.

05:36:10 benkay: this is what is wrong with the planet

05:36:13 mircea_popescu: let the man have fun.

05:36:25 mircea_popescu: not like he's doing it on borrowed moneyz.

05:36:32 benkay: unlike the vcs, i suppose

05:36:36 mircea_popescu: so you see.

05:37:24 Bugpowder: Not to mention, early diagnosis of some cancers has no effect on mortality, but does decrease QOL

05:37:33 Bugpowder: and increase care costs dramatically

05:38:04 mircea_popescu: sad but true

05:38:05 greenspan_fan: benkay I've just never had anyone ask me for money and it turn out well, so I am holding out hope for ninjashogun

05:38:10 mircea_popescu: then again this seemed geared for africa

05:38:20 mircea_popescu: i bet the situation re qol / cost is different there.

05:38:25 ninjashogun: greenspan_fan, I haven't asked you for money :)

05:38:35 mircea_popescu: Bugpowder for public benefit, mind enumerating those types ?

05:39:26 mircea_popescu: greenspan_fan i take it your wife doesn't ask, just takes ? :D

05:39:52 joecool: mircea_popescu: congrats on mpex outliving yet another exchange

05:40:08 greenspan_fan: haha

05:40:11 mircea_popescu: joecool well ty, tho it's kinda chearting. mpex never did fiat.

05:40:15 mircea_popescu: shitty business to be in.

05:40:21 joecool: seems so

05:41:19 benkay: in other news, i'm talking about lisp at the Portland Python night this month. if there are any Portlanders listening, you should come and NOT TALK ABOUT BITCOIN FFS.

05:41:21 benkay: http://www.meetup.com/pdxpython/events/146120792/

05:41:22 ozbot: Monthly Presentation Night -

05:41:36 mircea_popescu: everyone go, talk of atc instead.

05:42:03 benkay: bloody pedants

05:42:07 mircea_popescu: http://www.debka.com/article/23704/Russian-units-transferred-from-securing-the-Sochi-games-to-the-Ukraine-border

05:42:08 ozbot: Russian units transferred from securing the Sochi games to the Ukraine border

05:42:13 mircea_popescu: sheet's getting warm there.

05:42:18 benkay: wowee

05:42:35 mircea_popescu: what i hear is they moved something like 10k armored vehicles so far today.

05:44:11 copumpkin: benkay: you a PL person?

05:44:22 davout: oh nice, i didn't the dip

05:44:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 52 @ 0.00509969 = 0.2652 BTC [-] {2}

05:44:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.0008853 = 27.5328 BTC [+] {5}

05:44:38 davout: see*

05:45:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1115081 = 0.5575 BTC [-] {3}

05:45:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7161 @ 0.00088296 = 6.3229 BTC [-]

05:45:42 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

05:45:44 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 460.0, Best ask: 463.46, Bid-ask spread: 3.46000, Last trade: 463.46, 24 hour volume: 70747.68743697, 24 hour low: 436.36, 24 hour high: 578.5, 24 hour vwap: 522.632639086

05:45:53 mircea_popescu: derp.

05:46:27 antephialtic: heh. someone should make an MPEX style exchange for usd/btc, all security based on pgp keys

05:46:36 davout: oh, mtgox is down

05:46:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11150005 = 0.223 BTC [-] {2}

05:46:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.47206 = 2.3603 BTC [-] {3}

05:46:49 joecool: davout: you seem surprised

05:46:54 antephialtic: speaking of which, its a bit ridiculous that GPG still doesn't support ECDSA keys

05:47:01 davout: antephialtic: it does

05:47:04 joecool: antephialtic: blame debian

05:47:11 mircea_popescu: antephialtic localbitcoins is kinda-that i thought

05:47:28 mircea_popescu: ecdsa sux anyway.

05:47:28 davout: not really

05:47:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00434673 = 0.2173 BTC [-] {9}

05:47:41 davout: (the localbitcoins thing)

05:47:43 joecool: mircea_popescu: depends on the curve chosen

05:47:57 mircea_popescu: joecool im suspicious as al lfuck of the entire thing.

05:48:02 mircea_popescu: reminds me of dsa.

05:48:11 davout: antephialtic: you can already have the same feature if you trade x.eur on mpex

05:48:14 antephialtic: wait it does? I'm running osx with gpg from homebrew and it doesn't have ecdsa as an option

05:48:26 davout: antephialtic: i think it's gpg2 that does

05:48:38 joecool: i'm using 4096-bit RSA for the forseeable future, but ecdsa seems attractive if i can write a javacard implementation to work on my yubikey neo

05:48:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4607 @ 0.00088296 = 4.0678 BTC [-]

05:48:43 joecool: until then, openpgp smartcard for me

05:48:54 mircea_popescu: joecool how would you identify the classes of curves they have popped ?

05:48:59 antephialtic: mircea_popescu: I agree, DSA/ECDSA is a kludge. Schnorr signatures are much better

05:49:00 benkay: copumpkin: pl?

05:49:06 copumpkin: programming language

05:49:07 benkay: copumpkin: programming languages?

05:49:11 benkay: notrly

05:49:11 mircea_popescu: yes he is.

05:49:13 copumpkin: ah

05:49:15 benkay: there is only lisp.

05:49:17 mircea_popescu: stop scamming him!

05:49:17 copumpkin: :)

05:49:19 antephialtic: davout: thanks for the tip, going to try to set that up

05:49:19 mircea_popescu: lmao

05:49:39 benkay: i'm not even a computer science person

05:49:41 Namworld: What the hell is going on? I leave for a few hours and the whole Bitcoin world goes to ashes?

05:49:50 benkay: it's not Bitcoin, it's just Gox.

05:49:52 joecool: mircea_popescu: again i don't use them either, the lack of support though isn't from waryness, it's from the number of old gnupg clients in the wild

05:50:21 Namworld: For the sake of speculators dropping out/news/etc, damage is done.

05:50:30 Namworld: It's only gox, the rest will recover

05:50:39 Namworld: But for now everything is on fire, so to speak.

05:51:26 davout: Namworld: global warming hits bitcoin

05:51:43 mircea_popescu: antephialtic i'd rather see Cramer-Shoup myself.

05:51:50 mircea_popescu: i still dunno why they've never been seriously implemented.

05:52:04 Namworld: Global warming? NEEEEEIIIIIILLLLL

05:52:11 mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/438189256268611584 << check out shrem.

05:52:11 ozbot: Twitter / CharlieShrem: . @Mircea_Popescu We both had ...

05:52:32 Namworld: Sorry, sorry. My cousin keeps quoting that line from DBZ abridged.

05:53:18 mircea_popescu: Namworld is she hot ?

05:53:28 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, I checked out mpex exchange

05:53:29 benkay: copumpkin: u has pm

05:53:30 Namworld: Guy cousin

05:53:38 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, did you write it in Perl?

05:53:50 Namworld: I had money on gox for convenience, I must admit.

05:53:57 mircea_popescu: i didn't write it at all, and tech details haven't really been released.

05:54:05 Namworld: Withdrew it at a 10% cut as soon as issues hit.

05:54:11 mircea_popescu: Namworld no convenience for you! come back, 1 year!

05:54:25 ninjashogun: mircea_popescu, I guess you just wrote the beautiful front-end right :)

05:54:37 mircea_popescu: o hey. didja help all the people buying mtgox debt learn a lesson ? lol

05:54:44 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun no, i just tell people what to do.

05:54:52 mircea_popescu: and what they did wrong.

05:54:53 lnovy: mircea_popescu: that sun picture send my box whole 1GB into swap :D

05:55:03 mircea_popescu: and then if they don't listen sometimes they live long enough to apologize.

05:55:10 mircea_popescu: like homeboy shrem a few lines up

05:55:24 mircea_popescu: lnovy it's not that huge is it ?!

05:55:51 lnovy: mircea_popescu: 4096x4096... but I guess FF is just crap at those...

05:55:56 mircea_popescu: srsly.

05:56:03 mircea_popescu: what do you do if you get like, a real monitor one day ?

05:56:46 lnovy: I have 1920x1080 + 1280x1024... but only a 4 gigs of ram...

05:56:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10975 BTC [+]

05:57:11 mircea_popescu: benkay fwiw, i heard copumpkin once used a lambda function to turn a iphone into an ipad

05:57:17 ninjashogun: lnovy - if it's any consolation, they just came out with a 128 GB micro sd card.

05:57:19 copumpkin: lol

05:58:05 benkay: i once heard copumpkin use a closure to turn an Mac][ into a Genera

05:58:08 lnovy: i'd swap to that :)

05:58:10 benkay: it was audible.

05:58:14 mircea_popescu: lmao

05:58:33 assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1656343/plain/)

05:58:33 benkay: !b 4

05:59:05 lnovy: ok, I don't get it :)

05:59:30 mircea_popescu: don't worry, nobody does.

05:59:31 mircea_popescu: it's lisp.

05:59:42 ninjashogun: www.spritzinc.com - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7295094

05:59:51 lnovy: curring is for fools

05:59:56 ninjashogun: sorry I meant to quote "Spritz ? read 500 words per minute without any training"

05:59:58 ninjashogun: it's an interesting little app

06:00:10 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun if you just dump the link ozbot will read the page title.

06:00:20 Bugpowder: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/25/business/apparent-theft-at-mt-gox-shakes-bitcoin-world.html?smid=tw-share&_r=3

06:00:22 ozbot: Log In - The New York Times

06:00:25 ninjashogun: lol

06:00:29 ninjashogun: that worked :)

06:00:34 mircea_popescu: the new york times is so well adapted to the web.

06:00:40 Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: breast cancer, prostate cancer

06:00:47 ninjashogun: ozbot should pretend to be the google bot - then it would get the right titles

06:00:48 mircea_popescu: whoa.

06:01:10 mircea_popescu: Bugpowder how the fuck does that work man. on my list breast cancer is one where early discovery has the greatest impact. in there with skin cancer.

06:01:17 mircea_popescu: what have i been reading the wrong books ?

06:01:47 mircea_popescu: ninjashogun i think it just looks for the element in html</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528468" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528468">06:02:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ninjashogun:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ho okay</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528469" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528469">06:02:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 626 @ 0.00050099 = 0.3136 BTC [+] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528470" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528470">06:04:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ninjashogun:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu, when you said above that this channel was worth "over $1b" I didn't takei t seriously as if it has like 500 regulars then just a couple of people worth $50M - or a single Internet billionaire who drops in sometimes - would account for that</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528471" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528471">06:05:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ninjashogun well it was seriously.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528472" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528472">06:05:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">In other news. http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/gselevator-tattletale-exposed-he-was-never-in-the-goldman-elevator/?hp</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528473" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528473">06:06:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hahahaah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528474" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528474">06:06:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">did you tweet that ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528475" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528475">06:06:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ninjashogun:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu, your own net worth is quite up there from your exchange site? (With all its glorious stylesheets)?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528476" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528476">06:06:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 271 @ 0.00086048 = 0.2332 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528477" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528477">06:07:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">argh can't transfer bitcoin on work network, even when VPN'ed to elsewhere</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528478" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528478">06:07:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 85 @ 0.00509997 = 0.4335 BTC [+] {5} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528479" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528479">06:08:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ninjashogun http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-02-2014#523542 im dead, what.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528480" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528480">06:11:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.472 = 0.944 BTC [-]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528481" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528481">06:11:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Bugpowder incidentally, you know sm is in hot water over it ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528482" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528482">06:11:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">extent of the damage not quite known yet.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528483" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528483">06:12:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ninjashogun:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">:)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528484" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528484">06:12:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">SM?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528485" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528485">06:12:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">second market.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528486" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528486">06:12:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh yeah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528487" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528487">06:12:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">duh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528488" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528488">06:12:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">myeah.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528489" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528489">06:13:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">course they probably get a free pass from investors</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528490" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528490">06:13:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">at least this time.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528491" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528491">06:13:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ninjashogun:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">guys I've received some suggestions to "lurk" and "read logs" here, which I wouldn't really have time to do. It was nice meeting you all though and I may be back as the project progresses. Overall I don't think I will be spending a ton of time building WoT, advisors, etc - as I have real-world references for the moment that I would expect anyone to consutl.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528492" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528492">06:13:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">antephialtic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: what is the source that all winklevosses money was in gox</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528493" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528493">06:13:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ninjashogun an' that's fine.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528494" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528494">06:13:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">antephialtic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ninjashogun: *humblebrag exits*</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528495" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528495">06:13:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">A Goldman spokesman, after being told that @GSElevator had been unmasked, said in a statement, “We are pleased to report that the official ban on talking in elevators will be lifted effective immediately.”</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528496" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528496">06:13:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">heh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528497" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528497">06:13:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">antephialtic source ? what is this source thing you speak of.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528498" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528498">06:14:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nubbins` wtf you know, ban on talking on elevators.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528499" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528499">06:14:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i lel'd</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528500" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528500">06:14:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">how about banning fucktards from taking the elevator with you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528501" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528501">06:14:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">eleWoT!</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528502" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528502">06:14:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think it was a bit tongue in cheek</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528503" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528503">06:14:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">noone talks to me in elevators</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528504" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528504">06:14:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ninjashogun:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ah no humblebrag. It's certainly nice to meet you guys. later.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528505" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528505">06:14:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">;;google love in an elevator aerosmith</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528506" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528506">06:14:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">gribble:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Aerosmith - Love In An Elevator - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Yrhv33Zb8>; Love in an Elevator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_in_an_Elevator>; AEROSMITH LYRICS - Love In An Elevator - A-Z Lyrics: <http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/aerosmith/loveinanelevator.html></span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528507" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528507">06:14:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i face backwards if i'm the first person to get in</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528508" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528508">06:14:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">occasionally other people do it too</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528509" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528509">06:15:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">antephialtic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">glad to see dealbook is focusing on hard hitting journalism</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528510" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528510">06:15:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i got news for you : those people are gay and looking.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528511" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528511">06:15:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">If only Lawsky had rolled out the bit license earlier</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528512" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528512">06:15:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lawl.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528513" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528513">06:15:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not quite as tongue in cheek as this: http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/22/c2/70/00/rings.si.jpg</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528514" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528514">06:15:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">antephialtic actually a guy focusing on hard hitting journalism was here earlier.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528515" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528515">06:15:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hopefully he sticks.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528516" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528516">06:16:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">kakobrekla:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">looky, erik is alive</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528517" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528517">06:16:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">kakobrekla:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yv6ph/some_words_for_my_friends/</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528518" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528518">06:16:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the viking?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528519" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528519">06:17:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528520" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528520">06:17:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">The 0.01% of bitcoin trying to feel the pain of the 99%</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528521" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528521">06:17:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">LOL</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528522" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528522">06:18:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lmao why so mean.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528523" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528523">06:18:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">actually it's prolly less than 0.001%</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528524" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528524">06:19:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">pretty sure he's in the 100 archons, and pretty sure there's over 100k people with some bitcoin dust somewhere.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528525" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528525">06:19:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the satoshi%</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528526" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528526">06:19:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so that'd be 1 in 1k</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528527" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528527">06:19:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i hope my 300 EUR/BTC bid gets to feel the pain too</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528528" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528528">06:19:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">$vwap x.eur</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528529" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528529">06:19:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mpexbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: X.EUR 1 day: average: 0.00206827 high: 0.0021 low: 0.002 volume: 1100 btc: 2.2751 7 day: average: 0.00211705 high: 0.00226762 low: 0.002 volume: 4209 btc: 8.91064414 30 day: average: 0.00187721 high: 0.00226762 low: 0.00166114 volume: 17120 btc: 32.13776514</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528530" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528530">06:19:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">$depth x.eur</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528531" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528531">06:19:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mpexbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: X.EUR Bids: ['200 @ 0.00170512', '500 @ 0.00169213', '4200 @ 0.0016245', '100 @ 0.00153846', '1000 @ 0.001']</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528532" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528532">06:19:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mpexbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: Asks: ['749 @ 0.0025', '251 @ 0.0026', '450 @ 0.002837', '1531 @ 0.0029']</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528533" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528533">06:20:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">some gap there.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528534" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528534">06:20:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not there :D</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528535" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528535">06:20:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">still gotta work on the bot</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528536" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528536">06:20:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">make it do binladens too</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528537" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528537">06:20:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">gangsta</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528538" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528538">06:21:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">how many bots are in this channel?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528539" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528539">06:21:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or g* is five or ten rather than 3.45565</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528540" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528540">06:21:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">nubbins`:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we are all bots</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528541" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528541">06:21:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">im the orb</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528542" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528542">06:21:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">greenspan_fan: there's assbot, ozbot, gribble</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528543" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528543">06:22:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mod6:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mpexbot</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528544" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528544">06:22:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">greenspan_fan bout 3</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528545" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528545">06:22:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mebbe other that i forget/don't know about</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528546" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528546">06:22:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">how many are custom code?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528547" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528547">06:22:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think most are supybot</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528548" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528548">06:22:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">kakobrekla:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">assbot is assbot</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528549" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528549">06:22:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">.bait</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528550" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528550">06:22:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://25.media.tumblr.com/1f55fe7276e6389293ff0657a32daf1b/tumblr_mffqe8FCLj1rxd7x3o1_1280.jpg</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528551" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528551">06:23:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that's ozbot :3</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528552" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528552">06:23:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 38 @ 0.00508637 = 0.1933 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528553" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528553">06:23:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that's a cute one</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528554" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528554">06:23:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: Serious question time, how will options contracts be exercised at month's end? At bitcoincharts price, or at last quoted (~$650 / BTC)?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528555" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528555">06:23:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Bugpowder that'll be announced then</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528556" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528556">06:23:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoincharts 7d vwap iirc</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528557" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528557">06:23:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">haha guess not heh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528558" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528558">06:24:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout was 24h vwap, except arguably bitcoincharts is broken etc.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528559" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528559">06:24:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's a fucking conundrum.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528560" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528560">06:24:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Going to have a big effect on S.MPOE results. Would like to know before.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528561" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528561">06:24:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i was thinking about when you said using implied spot for futures was a bad idea</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528562" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528562">06:25:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoincharts may fix itself shortly though</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528563" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528563">06:25:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you still think so?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528564" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528564">06:25:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Bugpowder kinda why i'm not saying anything.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528565" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528565">06:25:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout not sure exactly what you mean ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528566" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528566">06:25:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we were discussing the basket, and how mtgox was kinda ruining it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528567" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528567">06:25:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528568" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528568">06:26:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and that it would theoretically possible to use the future's implied spot to get the collateralization requirement</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528569" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528569">06:26:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">vorb eurostack</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528570" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528570">06:26:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">*:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Vexual 1.05</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528571" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528571">06:26:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">vorb findeuro</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528572" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528572">06:26:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">*:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Vexual unknown</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528573" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528573">06:26:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">"If you’re sad about your bitcoins losing all their value, maybe you should have put out more lands so you could bring them out earlier." -- @deliciousbees</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528574" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528574">06:26:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not even the implied spot i guess, the actual spot</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528575" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528575">06:26:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">420 on coinbase dude</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528576" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528576">06:27:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout i recall you proposing that and me pointing out it cant happen because of backfeed.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528577" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528577">06:27:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or some vwap</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528578" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528578">06:28:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438198808359731200 << curious how well that works out.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528579" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528579">06:28:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @niubi You only think that ...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528580" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528580">06:28:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">.m</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528581" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528581">06:29:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nah, i said BC's vwap, which you understood as x.eur's vwap</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528582" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528582">06:29:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no difference, inasmuch as you run both.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528583" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528583">06:29:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i didn't even think about using x.eur's</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528584" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528584">06:29:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">.lm</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528585" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528585">06:29:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">.bait</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528586" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528586">06:29:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://25.media.tumblr.com/8c082dff11f32c3ae6859b73a4b3ea20/tumblr_mg6egfuPs31rjpxwzo1_500.jpg</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528587" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528587">06:30:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">zing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528588" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528588">06:30:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">wouldn't it make sense if the market was larger?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528589" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528589">06:30:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">anyway, just wondering</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528590" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528590">06:30:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it wouldn't make sense no matter how large the market is, because you arguably can still control it.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528591" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528591">06:31:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">at least on the x.eur side that's something that you could quantify</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528592" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528592">06:31:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">maybe if you were mtgox cca 2011 and had 9x% of the market you could bring the arugment that it's nonsense to empower errors by going outside</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528593" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528593">06:31:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528594" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528594">06:31:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but im not in the business of quantifying such.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528595" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528595">06:31:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">on an unrelated note the french are in favor of internet big brothering -> http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/2014/02/25/97002-20140225FILWWW00021-les-francais-pour-la-surveillance-d-internet.php</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528596" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528596">06:31:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">such wow</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528597" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528597">06:32:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">basically the french strike me as the sort of people who'd be in favour of a government accuplation scheme.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528598" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528598">06:32:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you submit your genital pictures, you get matched by le departement with some guy,</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528599" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528599">06:32:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">functionaries come and insert his thing in your thing, etc</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528600" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528600">06:33:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea: care to comment on the price thnx</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528601" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528601">06:33:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol, don't see me as french, i'm half dutch, half nigerian</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528602" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528602">06:33:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: reddit seems to be doing a good job with that :-)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528603" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528603">06:33:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mod6:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yoh dawg, we heard you like things in your thing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528604" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528604">06:33:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius notrly.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528605" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528605">06:34:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">shrem made a total fool of himself again</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528606" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528606">06:34:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.472 BTC [-]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528607" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528607">06:35:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you know pick something and stick to it, koin3d, whatever.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528608" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528608">06:35:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this constant namechanging is derpy.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528609" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528609">06:35:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 542 @ 0.00506068 = 2.7429 BTC [+] {6} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528610" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528610">06:36:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 134 @ 0.00520597 = 0.6976 BTC [+] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528611" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528611">06:36:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">is the 700k stolen figure true? how does that even make sense</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528612" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528612">06:37:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">vorb ^</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528613" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528613">06:37:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-02-2014#527970</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528614" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528614">06:37:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">#bitcoin-assets log</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528615" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528615">06:37:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Duffer1:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i'd say it's likely true, the only question is the identity of the thieves</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528616" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528616">06:37:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">*:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Vexual classified</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528617" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528617">06:38:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well yea but they were honoring btc withdrawals</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528618" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528618">06:38:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">up until the fall 2013</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528619" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528619">06:38:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">scam 101</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528620" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528620">06:38:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 154 @ 0.00526065 = 0.8101 BTC [+] {5} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528621" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528621">06:38:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thieves my ass karpeles is a fucking jew himself</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528622" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528622">06:38:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">toffoo:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">any guesses here on "collateral damage" of gox collapse? who will be the 3rd-party businesses/services who will now collapse because they had coins/funds tied up at gox?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528623" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528623">06:38:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">his cabal took them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528624" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528624">06:39:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Duffer1:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that's what i'm saying cere</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528625" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528625">06:39:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">how would he not notice that type of leakage for so long</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528626" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528626">06:39:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">toffoo: good point</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528627" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528627">06:39:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00525796 = 0.3943 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528628" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528628">06:39:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">counterparty exposure could be bad</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528629" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528629">06:39:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">toffoo no i dont think so</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528630" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528630">06:39:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">everyone with 2 IQ points left gox last year</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528631" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528631">06:39:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: Did you keep any of MPEX account funds on Mt GOx?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528632" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528632">06:39:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">toffoo:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's going to bite at least somebody big out there</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528633" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528633">06:39:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">toffoo most of the people clueless enough to have been exposed will probably be rescued by their investors now, a la second market.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528634" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528634">06:39:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol bugpowder</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528635" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528635">06:40:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's likely the twinklelosses are out of the game.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528636" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528636">06:40:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ooh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528637" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528637">06:40:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Bugpowder i never had a gox account.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528638" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528638">06:40:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's possible this blow actually takes out the bitcoin foundation scamgroup,</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528639" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528639">06:40:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96150 @ 0.0008861 = 85.1985 BTC [+] {6} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528640" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528640">06:40:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu they held coins at gox?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528641" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528641">06:40:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but we'll have to see.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528642" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528642">06:40:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">obviously i'll be trying to lock any doors for mr v that i can. race against time.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528643" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528643">06:40:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">winklevoss had their own wallet...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528644" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528644">06:41:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fancy</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528645" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528645">06:41:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mr v?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528646" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528646">06:41:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">V is the worst</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528647" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528647">06:41:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes, some clown.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528648" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528648">06:41:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">vessennes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528649" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528649">06:41:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">king scumbag</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528650" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528650">06:42:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the irony here is the exchange where nobody knows the owner ends up lasting the longest(btce)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528651" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528651">06:42:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitstamp is actually older if memory serves.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528652" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528652">06:43:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">is btce dead?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528653" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528653">06:43:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitstamp is a pita to withdraw from 5k+ they turn it into a huge Q&A session</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528654" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528654">06:43:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">vexual no</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528655" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528655">06:43:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00539949 = 0.4968 BTC [+] {2} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528656" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528656">06:43:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: nah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528657" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528657">06:43:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: why do you think the foundation gets taken down?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528658" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528658">06:43:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">btc-e and gox were are oldest, followed by BC</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528659" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528659">06:44:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">then came the britcoin/intersango crowd</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528660" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528660">06:44:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ic.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528661" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528661">06:44:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">btce is russian run they are more clever</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528662" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528662">06:44:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">It would be interesting to know how many of the dev team had money on gox</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528663" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528663">06:44:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes, it is often the case entire groups of millions of people are more clever.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528664" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528664">06:44:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">karpeles fat jew no wonder shrem vouched for him</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528665" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528665">06:45:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: is there something wrong with being jewish?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528666" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528666">06:45:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if those people are toast, development might slow down</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528667" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528667">06:45:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout: jews have a tendency for causing chaos, it goes back to choosing barabas in the new testament..</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528668" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528668">06:45:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.47142857 = 3.3 BTC [-] {2} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528669" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528669">06:45:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 245 @ 0.00525243 = 1.2868 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528670" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528670">06:45:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.11064975 = 3.3195 BTC [-] {7} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528671" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528671">06:45:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">greenspan_fan considering what counts for development these days that should increase the btc price.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528672" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528672">06:45:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout: not going to get into that with you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528673" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528673">06:46:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius you're not getting to</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528674" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528674">06:46:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">into anything anyway, don't even know who the fuck you are</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528675" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528675">06:46:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well ill give credit to mircea for calling it before anyone else</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528676" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528676">06:46:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">he's this angry canadian fellow.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528677" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528677">06:46:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">publicly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528678" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528678">06:47:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">why are you so angry anyway.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528679" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528679">06:47:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fk off</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528680" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528680">06:47:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I think he's just trying to be cool, because racism is controversial</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528681" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528681">06:47:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://imgur.com/esDRP98 for greenspan_fan</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528682" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528682">06:47:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">As a white male, thank you for making me feel awkward ESPN.. - Imgur</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528683" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528683">06:47:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i never said anything racist</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528684" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528684">06:47:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">greenspan_fan racism is controversial, but re niggers not re jews.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528685" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528685">06:48:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mod6:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">speaking of dev, i thought the most recent list of defects was pretty spot on. account naming issues, et. al.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528686" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528686">06:48:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: can you comment on the foundation collapsing?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528687" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528687">06:48:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mod6 barely scratches the surface, really.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528688" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528688">06:48:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we need a motherfuckingspec.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528689" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528689">06:49:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">jesus, are you writing an article for your local freeman-on-the-land tabloid?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528690" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528690">06:49:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">jurov what i don't understand is... why are all those black guys dressed like if they were white ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528691" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528691">06:49:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol greenspan</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528692" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528692">06:49:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mod6:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it was nice addendum to the first list you made tho. but yeah.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528693" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528693">06:49:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0051 = 0.51 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528694" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528694">06:49:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: no, because specification is hard, also leads to alternate implementations, which leads to bugs</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528695" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528695">06:49:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">white/blue shirts with lines, and the dots on white on the guy on left ? it's fucking outrageously unflattering.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528696" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528696">06:50:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">B007:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: america makes them think they are</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528697" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528697">06:50:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout o yes i see, alternative implementations leads to bugs.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528698" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528698">06:50:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this is so true.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528699" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528699">06:50:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yup</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528700" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528700">06:50:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">why are we even in bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528701" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528701">06:50:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hearn said it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528702" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528702">06:50:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">must be true</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528703" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528703">06:50:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout yes but hearn is an idiot.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528704" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528704">06:50:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 557 @ 0.00539949 = 3.0075 BTC [+] {7} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528705" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528705">06:50:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no, he works for guggle</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528706" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528706">06:50:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fun fact : llvm lead to very many gcc bugs</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528707" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528707">06:50:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">being finally fixed.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528708" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528708">06:50:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">dexX7:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">awww http://s.imgur.com/images/OverCapacity_700.png</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528709" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528709">06:51:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: oh and "bitcoin relies on bugs in openssl"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528710" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528710">06:51:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">\o/</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528711" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528711">06:51:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00539948 = 0.3456 BTC [-] {2} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528712" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528712">06:51:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lmao</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528713" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528713">06:51:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i'm not even joking</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528714" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528714">06:51:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no i know</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528715" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528715">06:52:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's still funny.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528716" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528716">06:52:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">kakobrekla, how much do i owe on the dukebox?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528717" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528717">06:52:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: will gavin be affected ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528718" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528718">06:52:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and what about the jews?!?!?!?!?!?!?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528719" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528719">06:53:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the jews will be affected.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528720" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528720">06:53:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">gavin is probably jewish</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528721" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528721">06:53:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think his wife is jewish</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528722" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528722">06:53:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: wrong, the smart jews don't have anything left in gox since 2011</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528723" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528723">06:53:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout there are smart jews ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528724" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528724">06:53:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: are there?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528725" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528725">06:53:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh my god, you guys.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528726" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528726">06:53:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">o wait i think i must have mixed up my stereotype cards</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528727" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528727">06:53:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nevermind.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528728" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528728">06:53:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">go trade them on gox</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528729" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528729">06:54:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">o wait</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528730" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528730">06:54:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ahahaha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528731" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528731">06:54:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hahaha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528732" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528732">06:54:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">zing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528733" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528733">06:54:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mod6:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">haha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528734" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528734">06:54:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so basically -assets is like old time tv</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528735" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528735">06:54:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">satoshi was probably jewish, from the economic theory around btc at least</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528736" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528736">06:54:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there's like comedy hour, finance hour, porn hour</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528737" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528737">06:54:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we got it all!</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528738" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528738">06:54:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 202 @ 0.00520098 = 1.0506 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528739" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528739">06:54:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00088221 = 14.777 BTC [-]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528740" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528740">06:54:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">B007:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">where is the business?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528741" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528741">06:54:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in the pudding.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528742" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528742">06:54:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its all business</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528743" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528743">06:55:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Last 20 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1656532/plain/)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528744" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528744">06:55:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">!b 20</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528745" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528745">06:55:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin is 100% jewish monetary theory, hoard coins and watch them swell in value while adding zero value</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528746" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528746">06:55:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">kakobrekla, dwanna some help with bashing?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528747" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528747">06:55:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.11996649 = 2.0394 BTC [+] {5} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528748" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528748">06:55:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">all monetary is jewish monetary theory</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528749" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528749">06:56:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">unfortunately in 2013 capitalism yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528750" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528750">06:56:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and I have some bad news about physics, too</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528751" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528751">06:56:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: actually bitcoin is jewish in the sense that you're not invited</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528752" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528752">06:56:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well economics is a pseudo physics, adam smith essentially seperated it from moral philosophy</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528753" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528753">06:56:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">kakobrekla:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">jurov you wanna admin the thing?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528754" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528754">06:56:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sometimes yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528755" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528755">06:57:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">kakobrekla:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">k</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528756" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528756">06:57:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">he does have a good sense of humour</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528757" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528757">06:57:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">B007:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">have you guys read Atlas Shrugged?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528758" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528758">06:57:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">antephialtic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes (unfortunately)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528759" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528759">06:57:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ayn rand propaganda</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528760" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528760">06:57:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Jesus christ</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528761" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528761">06:58:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">jesus. of course. it makes my top 20 most tedious list.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528762" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528762">06:58:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hi bugpowder</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528763" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528763">06:58:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Bugpowder, you got results from your analysis yet ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528764" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528764">06:58:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">No I am too busy doing recordings</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528765" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528765">06:58:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">antephialtic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you're going to read a rand book, read anthem, its much shorter and gets all her ideas across without 1200 pages of terrible dialogue</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528766" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528766">06:58:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I got some nice cells tho</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528767" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528767">06:58:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Also I'm too tired to figure out how to recurse this nicely.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528768" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528768">06:58:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">greenspan_fan: modern economics is all about having something swell in value(deflation) via usury. bitcoin is no exception pal</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528769" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528769">06:59:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">antephialtic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you really must read a long one, read the fountainhead, its a lot better than atlas shrugged.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528770" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528770">06:59:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Bugpowder:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Or watch the movie</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528771" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528771">06:59:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius usury is what deadbeats call it when they can't meet the interest payments (because they're deadbeats), let alone the principal</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528772" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528772">07:00:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mod6:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fountainhead was ok. i think 'we the living' was better if you must.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528773" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528773">07:00:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">because its impossible to meet it?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528774" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528774">07:00:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">21mil btc @ 1% is impossible.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528775" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528775">07:00:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">then don't invest in bitcoin. You'll get better returns with your trailer park meth lab.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528776" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528776">07:00:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i meant lending them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528777" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528777">07:00:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf"><greenspan_fan> all monetary is jewish monetary theory << actually it's gypstalian</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528778" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528778">07:00:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">jews did relatively little.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528779" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528779">07:01:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol bitcoin is not an investment pal, its a speculation. bitcoins are sterile</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528780" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528780">07:01:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">physics tho, yea, as jewish as communism.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528781" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528781">07:01:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: you talking about florence</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528782" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528782">07:01:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius okkk, walter white-power</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528783" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528783">07:01:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">get your terms right.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528784" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528784">07:01:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.47010074 = 18.804 BTC [-] {6} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528785" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528785">07:01:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">when you "buy" a bitcoin its zero sum, someone else now has what you exchanged for it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528786" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528786">07:02:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you arent adding capital to any project</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528787" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528787">07:02:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what is buying anything, then?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528788" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528788">07:02:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea_popescu: you forgot to mention the derp hour apparently</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528789" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528789">07:02:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">investing is when you combine capital with labor, ideas etc to create new value</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528790" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528790">07:02:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">floating a theory is free dickhead</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528791" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528791">07:02:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">anything else is mere speculation</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528792" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528792">07:02:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout derp hour is like pie hour.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528793" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528793">07:02:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">every time is a good time for pie.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528794" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528794">07:02:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hahaha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528795" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528795">07:03:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">anyway, i'll bbl.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528796" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528796">07:03:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin economy you will always have everyone impoverished except about 0.001% of holders</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528797" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528797">07:03:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the same thing under 100% gold standard</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528798" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528798">07:03:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius that's fine, brains distribute about the same way.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528799" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528799">07:03:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mircea_popescu:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">let the idiots be poor, best thing for them and everyone else.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528800" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528800">07:04:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it ends up backfiring on the rich though over the long term</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528801" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528801">07:04:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats what occured in florence as well, you had the biggest prosperity ever yet they ended up imploding since the commoner couldnt afford to run a family</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528802" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528802">07:04:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [-]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528803" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528803">07:05:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">u wanna renaissance? do it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528804" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528804">07:05:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">renaissance was a bread and circus to cover the economic looting of that time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528805" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528805">07:05:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hence all the arts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528806" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528806">07:07:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so many other things happened at the time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528807" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528807">07:07:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in bitcoin large holders have to do nothing, becuase as the armies of fanatics spread the gospel and do all the work, the largest holders get all the purchasing power transfered to them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528808" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528808">07:07:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah people did good shit, and other people went. whoa here have some money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528809" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528809">07:08:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">greenspan_fan: you are clueless. renaissance was the birth of capitalism and large scale usury in the west, it ended up destroying all the participating city states</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528810" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528810">07:08:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in the midst of dynastic struggle, wars, and massive religious upheaval</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528811" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528811">07:08:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">venice went from richest region in the world to flat broke</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528812" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528812">07:08:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but clearly it was the usurious jews</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528813" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528813">07:08:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no it was usury.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528814" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528814">07:08:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hahaha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528815" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528815">07:08:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not just them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528816" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528816">07:08:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00539949 = 0.1512 BTC [+] {2} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528817" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528817">07:09:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">everyone was engaged in it essentially</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528818" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528818">07:09:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fugger were the most famous</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528819" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528819">07:09:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and yet, I am not convinced that charging interest is bad. If you want me to loan you something, then you should compensate for my not having it while you use it.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528820" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528820">07:09:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the problem with usury is your economy never grows fast enough to keep up with the debt + interest</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528821" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528821">07:10:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">greenspan_fan: well yea there is legit compensation and then there is usury.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528822" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528822">07:10:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so okay, by definition, then, usury is bad</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528823" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528823">07:10:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in bitcoin you will never be able to have a functioning credit market</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528824" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528824">07:11:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you could run a bills of exchange system if they ever figure out how to make it decentralized</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528825" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528825">07:11:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf"><cerelenius> in bitcoin you will never be able to have a functioning credit market // as said above, it's not that bad</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528826" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528826">07:11:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">businesses will find finances it they are worthy of it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528827" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528827">07:12:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you need a self liquidating credit system</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528828" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528828">07:12:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">without credit impossible to allocate any capital</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528829" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528829">07:12:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">here's where you're mistaken</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528830" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528830">07:13:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 210 @ 0.00534999 = 1.1235 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528831" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528831">07:13:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">apocalyptic: im not mistaken, most people have zero idea what money is and who can issue it.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528832" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528832">07:13:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoins grand accomplishment is the blockchain</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528833" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528833">07:13:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">how does that contradict the fact you are ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528834" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528834">07:14:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">apocalyptic: bitcoin as a currency resembles a sophisticated wealth transfer scheme, those who have more of it benefit from the work of everyone else</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528835" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528835">07:14:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528836" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528836">07:14:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">as their coins swell in value</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528837" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528837">07:14:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">asymptopically, though, it evens out</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528838" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528838">07:14:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no it doesnt lol how?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528839" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528839">07:15:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">an early adopter or large coin holder just has to sit and do nothing, as everyone else "adds to the ecosystem" their coins swell in value with next to no risk, and they didnt even have to hire labor lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528840" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528840">07:16:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 600 @ 0.00522283 = 3.1337 BTC [-] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528841" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528841">07:16:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if bitcoin or its like ends up becoming the main currency, or at least a sufficiently important one</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528842" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528842">07:16:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it never will</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528843" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528843">07:16:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well...that all depends, you are describing the "free rider" problem</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528844" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528844">07:16:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which is not new</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528845" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528845">07:16:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr_: all deflationary systems work like that</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528846" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528846">07:16:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">some people get to (shocking) drive on roads they never paid for</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528847" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528847">07:16:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so the alternative is fiat with the jews or btc with the cyber-jews</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528848" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528848">07:17:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nah, think about it this way</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528849" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528849">07:17:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr_: money can be anything that extinguishes debt. and since only producers can pay off debt, they are the only ones who can issue money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528850" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528850">07:17:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">wrong</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528851" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528851">07:17:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">IMO</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528852" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528852">07:17:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since you can have assets without debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528853" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528853">07:17:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin can only work with a functioning bills of exchange market</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528854" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528854">07:17:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and you can trade those assets for others</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528855" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528855">07:17:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">without any debt being involved</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528856" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528856">07:17:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">your confused</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528857" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528857">07:17:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">your line of reasoning is based off of axioms that other people don't agree with</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528858" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528858">07:17:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">say im a farmer and i need capital to grow my crop</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528859" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528859">07:18:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so this is pointless</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528860" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528860">07:18:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which i cant sell for 6months</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528861" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528861">07:18:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lets pretend we were little kids</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528862" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528862">07:18:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and i had a pb and j</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528863" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528863">07:18:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">youre a shit farmwer</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528864" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528864">07:18:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you lend me btc at interest, the crop price will go down</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528865" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528865">07:18:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and you had a cheese sandwich</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528866" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528866">07:18:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we can trade with no debts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528867" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528867">07:18:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is the basis of money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528868" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528868">07:18:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">debt is the basis of money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528869" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528869">07:18:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">money is a contract it always was</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528870" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528870">07:18:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what if we had an "abstract base sandwich", no it is not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528871" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528871">07:18:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYs0gJD-LE</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528872" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528872">07:18:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">M.I.A. - "Bad Girls" (Official Video) - YouTube</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528873" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528873">07:18:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it isn't</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528874" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528874">07:18:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: you're working on the assumption that money is debt, come back next year</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528875" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528875">07:18:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we can agree to disagree</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528876" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528876">07:18:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but traditionally</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528877" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528877">07:18:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">money is a contract</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528878" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528878">07:19:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats all it is</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528879" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528879">07:19:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it is a token</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528880" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528880">07:19:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: money is no such thing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528881" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528881">07:19:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is a difference</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528882" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528882">07:19:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no it isnt lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528883" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528883">07:19:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: well, enjoy your contracts, i'll enjoy my money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528884" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528884">07:19:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are mixing up "backed by" with "tradeable for"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528885" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528885">07:19:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no im not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528886" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528886">07:19:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tokens havent been used since tribal days</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528887" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528887">07:19:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in the first case, you have an entity willing to always exchange at a fixed ratio</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528888" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528888">07:19:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">a contract is debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528889" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528889">07:19:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528890" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528890">07:19:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dollars a token</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528891" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528891">07:20:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dollars are not a token lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528892" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528892">07:20:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they are a credit instrument</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528893" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528893">07:20:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no they are not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528894" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528894">07:20:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i have dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528895" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528895">07:20:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: bitcoin is a commodity, money, not a contract</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528896" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528896">07:20:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">every single dollar issued must be backed by collateral</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528897" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528897">07:20:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">let's pretend we're talking about something that doesn't involve contracts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528898" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528898">07:20:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what does someone owe me?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528899" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528899">07:20:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tell me</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528900" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528900">07:20:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">say, sandwich-coin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528901" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528901">07:20:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">where can i redeem this debt instrument?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528902" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528902">07:20:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: those dollars are fed reserve liabilities backed by fed reserve assets</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528903" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528903">07:20:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no they are not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528904" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528904">07:20:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: you cant redeem it, its like a self liquidating tbill</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528905" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528905">07:20:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: bwahahaha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528906" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528906">07:20:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the fed has others dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528907" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528907">07:20:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no they dont</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528908" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528908">07:21:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh, so it represents a debt that won't be paid to me</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528909" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528909">07:21:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cool system</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528910" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528910">07:21:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528911" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528911">07:21:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it doesn't work that way</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528912" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528912">07:21:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hence why it requires perpetual debt creation</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528913" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528913">07:21:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">greenspan_fan:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">to a first approximation, dollars are a token</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528914" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528914">07:21:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: of course it does pull up the fed balance sheet</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528915" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528915">07:21:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no...you really don't understand...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528916" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528916">07:21:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">every single paper USD in existence is backed by assets the fed holds</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528917" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528917">07:21:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">a debt means that i am OWED something</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528918" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528918">07:21:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">namely US government bonds</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528919" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528919">07:21:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in other words i can REDEEM it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528920" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528920">07:21:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">all electronic dollars are created by commercial banks</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528921" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528921">07:21:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you cannot redeem a dollar</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528922" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528922">07:21:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">heres a lesson in semantics</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528923" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528923">07:22:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuAw77J8_Y</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528924" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528924">07:22:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Busta Rhymes - Arab Money - YouTube</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528925" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528925">07:22:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">backed by collateral</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528926" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528926">07:22:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what is their collateral?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528927" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528927">07:22:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">for fed or commercial banks?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528928" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528928">07:22:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what u got?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528929" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528929">07:22:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is like saying "a mortgage is backed by a house, but you cannot ever take the house'</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528930" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528930">07:22:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">then it isn't backed by the house...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528931" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528931">07:22:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the fed collateral is US gov bonds</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528932" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528932">07:22:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which are denominated in...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528933" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528933">07:22:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh rightr</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528934" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528934">07:22:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528935" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528935">07:22:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">commercial bank collateral is anything lent against</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528936" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528936">07:22:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so i have a debt that means you have to pay me other dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528937" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528937">07:22:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bash flushed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528938" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528938">07:23:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is silly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528939" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528939">07:23:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: yea i agree its not redeemable, its like a 0day tbill</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528940" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528940">07:23:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">then its not a debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528941" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528941">07:23:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it is a token</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528942" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528942">07:23:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: thats the system they created since they got off gold redeemability</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528943" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528943">07:23:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no it isnt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528944" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528944">07:23:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">first off, that is my point, "notes" represent assets on account</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528945" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528945">07:23:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">traditionally</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528946" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528946">07:23:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its impossible to repay debts under the current system because the dollar itself comes into existence through borrowing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528947" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528947">07:23:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">whatever we have done in the last 40 years doesn't fundamentally change the meaning of the word money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528948" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528948">07:24:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: by definition fiat money is a token that is assigned value because of a law, not because it represents a claim to anything</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528949" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528949">07:24:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nice, i'm glad you read "debt: the first 5000 years" but that is not actually the case</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528950" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528950">07:24:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fiat money and credit money are 2 different things</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528951" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528951">07:24:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528952" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528952">07:24:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we arent in zimbabwe</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528953" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528953">07:24:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is 100% fiat</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528954" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528954">07:24:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: so what's your point exactly?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528955" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528955">07:24:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we have a credit money system</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528956" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528956">07:24:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">simple easy lesson</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528957" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528957">07:24:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you cannot trade it in for a fixed amount of something else...there is no difference to you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528958" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528958">07:24:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dabout: my point is bitcoin cannot function on a large scale without a bills of exchange system</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528959" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528959">07:25:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it is a token</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528960" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528960">07:25:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: you mean paper bitcoins?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528961" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528961">07:25:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which we use to exchange value</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528962" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528962">07:25:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: a token is not a liability of someone</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528963" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528963">07:25:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1279 @ 0.00051978 = 0.6648 BTC [+] {5} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528964" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528964">07:25:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and a dollar is not a liability of anyone</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528965" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528965">07:25:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes it is</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528966" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528966">07:25:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">unless you are using that word in a completely differnt way than i think</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528967" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528967">07:25:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in which case i would like to borrow as much as i can from you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528968" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528968">07:25:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">liability is something which is owed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528969" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528969">07:25:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">by liability he means garden chair, oh wait it makes sense now</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528970" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528970">07:25:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the fed owes us nothing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528971" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528971">07:25:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you cannot redeem a dollar for anything</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528972" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528972">07:26:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it cannot be a debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528973" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528973">07:26:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since the fundamental core concept of a debt is that it can be "redeemed"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528974" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528974">07:26:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">go and look at the fed balance sheet</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528975" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528975">07:26:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">every single dollar is a liability</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528976" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528976">07:26:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">backed by equal assets</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528977" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528977">07:26:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528978" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528978">07:26:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats what gives them value</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528979" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528979">07:26:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">"assets"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528980" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528980">07:26:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is what you would call "accounting"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528981" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528981">07:26:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">think about this</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528982" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528982">07:26:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you aint the fed bro</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528983" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528983">07:26:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">total debt + interest</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528984" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528984">07:26:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">davout: exactly "assets"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528985" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528985">07:26:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">always exceeds available dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528986" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528986">07:27:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ugh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528987" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528987">07:27:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats why there is always a BID for dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528988" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528988">07:27:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">someone constantly needs them to repay a debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528989" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528989">07:27:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes i know all this, and it doesn't change the fundamental everyday reality</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528990" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528990">07:27:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not if you don't owe anything</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528991" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528991">07:27:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are clueless</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528992" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528992">07:27:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what if no one owed anybody anything?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528993" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528993">07:27:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">paper dollars are liability of the fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528994" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528994">07:27:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i am trying to talk about the BASIC definitions</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528995" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528995">07:27:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr then there would be no money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528996" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528996">07:27:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr_: leave britney alone man</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528997" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528997">07:27:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since you don't seemm to understand</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="528998" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528998">07:27:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">are we at the bottom yet?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="528999" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#528999">07:27:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if there was no debt there would be no dollars in this system</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529000" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529000">07:27:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes there would be</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529001" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529001">07:28:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no there wouldnt be.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529002" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529002">07:28:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr_: it all makes sense in his system because the juice run the fed or w/e</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529003" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529003">07:28:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">are you saying it is physically impossible to print a dollar bill without the fed?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529004" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529004">07:28:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">why is this happenening, CEP resigning from BTC.org?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529005" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529005">07:28:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17550 @ 0.00088225 = 15.4835 BTC [+]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529006" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529006">07:28:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">CEO*</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529007" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529007">07:28:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">just so you know</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529008" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529008">07:28:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: every single dollar printed MUST be backed by an asset.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529009" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529009">07:28:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the treasury actually creates the dollars, at least m0</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529010" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529010">07:28:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they do not print unbacked</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529011" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529011">07:28:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529012" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529012">07:28:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">whatever you say bud</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529013" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529013">07:28:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lololol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529014" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529014">07:28:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">"assets"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529015" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529015">07:28:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes[</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529016" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529016">07:28:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah and gox has coins, tell us something good</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529017" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529017">07:28:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the treasury runs the printing press at the behest of the fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529018" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529018">07:28:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fully backed of course</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529019" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529019">07:28:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what planet do you come from?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529020" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529020">07:28:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they print $ by adding zeros to a number on a computer</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529021" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529021">07:29:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this is why you are silly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529022" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529022">07:29:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">#bitcoin-derp apparently</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529023" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529023">07:29:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529024" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529024">07:29:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">to say that the fed has "assets" backing their dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529025" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529025">07:29:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00520959 = 0.5157 BTC [-] {2} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529026" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529026">07:29:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">graph it cerelenius</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529027" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529027">07:29:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yea it's called a stack of IOUs davout</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529028" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529028">07:29:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are mixing up accounting terminology with real life</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529029" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529029">07:29:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">graph what its on the fed website</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529030" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529030">07:29:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is the key</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529031" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529031">07:29:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr you are clueless pal</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529032" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529032">07:29:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">a debt is a "receivable" which is an asset</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529033" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529033">07:29:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and tell us why they no longer publish M3?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529034" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529034">07:29:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">just research M3</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529035" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529035">07:30:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or rather...i should say that in our accounting system, a receivable is listed as an asset</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529036" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529036">07:30:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">^ which is a mistake</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529037" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529037">07:30:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in the human made scheme that conforms to GAAP</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529038" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529038">07:30:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">US federal reserve notes are liabilities</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529039" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529039">07:30:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">imho</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529040" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529040">07:30:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no they are not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529041" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529041">07:30:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">for the federal reserve</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529042" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529042">07:30:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes they are</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529043" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529043">07:30:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529044" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529044">07:30:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">watch this</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529045" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529045">07:30:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">https://lh3.ggpht.com/-XwC13k12gNI/ThuQGGC8d8I/AAAAAAAAGFU/oqFXVt8wTyY/s1600/Federal+Reserve+Assets+and+Capital.png</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529046" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529046">07:30:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i give you $5</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529047" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529047">07:30:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">where did the 5 come from?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529048" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529048">07:30:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i put in a book, " cerelenius owes me $5"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529049" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529049">07:30:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it has to be borrowed into existence</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529050" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529050">07:30:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that entry in the book is an asset</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529051" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529051">07:31:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no it doesn't</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529052" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529052">07:31:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">months or drug abuse before personality disorder appeared?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529053" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529053">07:31:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is no rule anywhere that says it does</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529054" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529054">07:31:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">for example</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529055" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529055">07:31:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">susan b anthonys</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529056" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529056">07:31:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">are dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529057" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529057">07:31:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/speech/bernanke20091008slide6.gif</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529058" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529058">07:31:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dude shut up</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529059" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529059">07:31:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and are not made by the fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529060" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529060">07:31:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its on the fed site</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529061" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529061">07:31:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">all US FRN are fed reserve liabilities</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529062" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529062">07:31:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">explain coins</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529063" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529063">07:31:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not coins</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529064" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529064">07:31:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they don't issue them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529065" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529065">07:31:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529066" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529066">07:31:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what "debt" backs those?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529067" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529067">07:31:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i told you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529068" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529068">07:31:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">US gov bonds</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529069" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529069">07:32:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think that you are missing the forest for the trees</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529070" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529070">07:32:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">everytime new FRNs are to be printed, there has to be a posted asset</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529071" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529071">07:32:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sure its fun to talk about retarded shit like this</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529072" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529072">07:32:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think you are oblivious</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529073" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529073">07:32:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but in the real world, in your real life</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529074" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529074">07:32:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dudes we're debt backing debt insured by debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529075" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529075">07:32:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you don't redeem them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529076" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529076">07:32:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you trade them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529077" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529077">07:32:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">as tokens</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529078" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529078">07:32:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf"><MisterE> dudes we're debt backing debt insured by debt // genius...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529079" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529079">07:32:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_fedsbalancesheet.htm</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529080" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529080">07:32:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">go educate yourself</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529081" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529081">07:32:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't care what they write on paper</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529082" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529082">07:32:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">are you silly?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529083" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529083">07:32:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thanks Apocalyptic :)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529084" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529084">07:33:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh, the fed says that they should print more money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529085" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529085">07:33:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">every single dollar in existence must be lent into existence</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529086" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529086">07:33:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well its true the fed said it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529087" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529087">07:33:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529088" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529088">07:33:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">now tell me where the bottom is :)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529089" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529089">07:33:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is def not true</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529090" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529090">07:33:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the fed doesnt print money they lend it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529091" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529091">07:33:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you need a borrower on the other end</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529092" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529092">07:33:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529093" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529093">07:33:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but they don't create it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529094" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529094">07:33:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">MisterE, why would I do that exactly ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529095" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529095">07:33:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the private sector stopped borrowing in 2007</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529096" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529096">07:33:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the treasury does</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529097" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529097">07:33:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so the government took up the slack</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529098" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529098">07:33:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so I can get all the BTC for myself!</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529099" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529099">07:34:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the fed flooded the system with credit but there were no takers for it, hence the huge reserve balances banks now hold</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529100" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529100">07:34:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">see, that's a problem</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529101" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529101">07:34:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">because you have a lot already Apocalyptic ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529102" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529102">07:34:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the only taker has been the government</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529103" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529103">07:34:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I want some too</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529104" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529104">07:34:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hehe, let's conspire</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529105" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529105">07:34:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">private sector is borrowing for stuff like student loans etc</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529106" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529106">07:34:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nothing else</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529107" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529107">07:34:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529108" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529108">07:34:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you're bent</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529109" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529109">07:34:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">poor cerelenius and the rest of the sheep who still have faitin in the financial house of cards</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529110" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529110">07:34:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hyperinflation under such a system is next to impossible, you can have hyperdeflation instead</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529111" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529111">07:35:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1656677/plain/)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529112" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529112">07:35:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">davout:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">!b 1</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529113" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529113">07:35:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mistere: before the USD collapses youll have hyperdeflation</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529114" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529114">07:35:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like we saw in 08</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529115" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529115">07:35:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: either way it won't bother me</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529116" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529116">07:35:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I'm in commodities</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529117" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529117">07:35:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">LOL those will collapse</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529118" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529118">07:35:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no thats shit people actually need</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529119" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529119">07:35:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">to use</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529120" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529120">07:35:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">commodities collapsed 80% in 2008</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529121" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529121">07:35:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">2008 was an aberration</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529122" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529122">07:36:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">under credit collapse ie deflation, demand collapses</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529123" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529123">07:36:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and if it crashes that hard we're all fucked so it's AK-47 time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529124" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529124">07:36:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">2008 was a shot across the bow, a warning of the future</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529125" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529125">07:36:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and it was not an inflationary collapse</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529126" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529126">07:36:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I agree 2008 was a warning</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529127" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529127">07:36:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">just so you know</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529128" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529128">07:36:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and we're trying to spend our way out of it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529129" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529129">07:36:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the treasury doesn't just give the money to the fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529130" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529130">07:36:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the fed pays for it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529131" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529131">07:36:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">^</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529132" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529132">07:36:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which...how can they pay for something which they created?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529133" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529133">07:37:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the fed doesnt order much federal reserve notes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529134" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529134">07:37:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">theres very little federal reserve notes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529135" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529135">07:37:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you said "every dollar is a debt, it can only be created through debt"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529136" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529136">07:37:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its all bank credit</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529137" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529137">07:37:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529138" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529138">07:37:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.06089999 = 0.609 BTC [+]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529139" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529139">07:37:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes theres 2 ways to create dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529140" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529140">07:37:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you said dollars couldn't exist without debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529141" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529141">07:37:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">commercial banks</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529142" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529142">07:37:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i just proved you wrong</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529143" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529143">07:37:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529144" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529144">07:37:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529145" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529145">07:37:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">BOTH do it via lending</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529146" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529146">07:37:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nope</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529147" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529147">07:37:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr lol no you didnt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529148" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529148">07:37:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fed buys</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529149" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529149">07:37:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not creates by lending</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529150" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529150">07:37:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">where you think the money for QE is coming from?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529151" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529151">07:37:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">when the federal reserve orders dollars in physical format</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529152" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529152">07:38:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they pay for them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529153" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529153">07:38:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they dont</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529154" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529154">07:38:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they require an asset posted to them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529155" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529155">07:38:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they def do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529156" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529156">07:38:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nobody uses physical at that level</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529157" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529157">07:38:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they do not print blindly lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529158" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529158">07:38:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE yes exactly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529159" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529159">07:38:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they pay all costs to manufacture or mint</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529160" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529160">07:38:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the discount window is all 0s and 1s</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529161" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529161">07:38:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its all bank credit</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529162" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529162">07:38:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.061 = 0.122 BTC [+]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529163" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529163">07:38:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529164" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529164">07:38:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but there are dollars not created via debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529165" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529165">07:38:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">basically</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529166" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529166">07:38:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">every single dollar in existence is backed by debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529167" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529167">07:38:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which was my point</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529168" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529168">07:38:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no its not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529169" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529169">07:38:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">a printed dollar</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529170" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529170">07:38:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr the physical dollars are backed by fed assets(debt)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529171" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529171">07:38:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bought by the fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529172" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529172">07:38:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">is not a debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529173" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529173">07:38:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no...it is not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529174" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529174">07:39:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they only buy printed dollars when a bank rqurests them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529175" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529175">07:39:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and they have to post an asset to back it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529176" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529176">07:39:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like if you want 100bil of printed dollars you have to post 100bil of tier 1 capital assets to the fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529177" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529177">07:39:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">THEN they make the order</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529178" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529178">07:39:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its always zero sum</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529179" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529179">07:39:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529180" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529180">07:39:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sure</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529181" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529181">07:39:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00088221 = 20.1585 BTC [-]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529182" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529182">07:39:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00539863 = 0.5399 BTC [+] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529183" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529183">07:39:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">are you saying the sum total of assets denominated in USD is less than the sum total of USD denominated debt?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529184" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529184">07:39:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so you are saying that we have a fully backed currency</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529185" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529185">07:39:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr i already told you look at the fed balance sheet its painfully obvious</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529186" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529186">07:39:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: yes by debt.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529187" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529187">07:39:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529188" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529188">07:39:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">go look at gox's balance sheet</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529189" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529189">07:40:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE: yes.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529190" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529190">07:40:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it is a piece of paper made by people</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529191" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529191">07:40:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not like handed down by moses</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529192" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529192">07:40:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you do know that right</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529193" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529193">07:40:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's all about trust</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529194" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529194">07:40:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE: total debt+ interest always exceeds available dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529195" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529195">07:40:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nothing matters but trust</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529196" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529196">07:40:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes obviously</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529197" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529197">07:40:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats why the fed needs QE</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529198" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529198">07:40:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this is all obvious</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529199" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529199">07:40:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.0053995 = 0.459 BTC [+]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529200" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529200">07:40:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but all irrelevant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529201" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529201">07:40:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">boviously</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529202" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529202">07:40:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">new dollars must constantly be created to pay off old debts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529203" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529203">07:40:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i told you that if i gave you $5, your debt is my asset</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529204" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529204">07:40:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this is like nubbins music</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529205" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529205">07:40:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">because we dont have money in the traditional sense</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529206" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529206">07:40:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no they don't</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529207" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529207">07:40:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is not true</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529208" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529208">07:40:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes it is.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529209" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529209">07:40:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and obviously not true</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529210" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529210">07:40:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529211" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529211">07:41:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">here is the most trivial example</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529212" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529212">07:41:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is 100 dollars total</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529213" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529213">07:41:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sorry but he's starting to make sense</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529214" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529214">07:41:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i lend it to you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529215" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529215">07:41:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/TCMDO</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529216" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529216">07:41:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">All Sectors; Credit Market Instruments; Liability, Level (TCMDO) - FRED - St. Louis Fed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529217" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529217">07:41:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">look</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529218" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529218">07:41:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you work for 100 a hour</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529219" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529219">07:41:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this has to go up FOREVER</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529220" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529220">07:41:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or else the system implodes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529221" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529221">07:41:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">after one hour your debt is paid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529222" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529222">07:41:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">see how it dipped in 2008?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529223" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529223">07:41:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we're not even talking about personal liabilities yet</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529224" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529224">07:41:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sorry just not true</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529225" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529225">07:41:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">most people are mortgaged to 10x their 10 year net worth</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529226" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529226">07:41:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you had to pay the debt NOW then it would be impossible without creating more</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529227" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529227">07:41:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">look at that 08 dip and it nearly blew out the entire system</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529228" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529228">07:41:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but debts have the interesting factor of time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529229" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529229">07:42:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius, you're a two toned fuckstick</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529230" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529230">07:42:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">meaining velocity of money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529231" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529231">07:42:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">can handle interest</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529232" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529232">07:42:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">MisterE: i hope im making sense to you because mjr is on a different planet.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529233" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529233">07:42:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in other words, 100 can circulate to pay 100,000 worth of needs</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529234" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529234">07:42:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529235" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529235">07:42:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this is so basic</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529236" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529236">07:42:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you both are on differerent planets lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529237" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529237">07:42:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't even understand your point</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529238" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529238">07:42:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sure, money is created via debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529239" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529239">07:42:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I'm just running back and forth in The Enterprise</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529240" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529240">07:42:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">who cares</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529241" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529241">07:43:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr go back to buttonwood meetings with your btc lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529242" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529242">07:43:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">why does that matter at all</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529243" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529243">07:43:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are clueless</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529244" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529244">07:43:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok...what was your point again?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529245" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529245">07:43:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you're pointless</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529246" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529246">07:43:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the end game is hyper deflation on a scale not scene in 500 years</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529247" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529247">07:43:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529248" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529248">07:43:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">whatever</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529249" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529249">07:43:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its not going to be hyperinflation</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529250" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529250">07:43:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sounds fun</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529251" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529251">07:43:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but i meant in our lives</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529252" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529252">07:43:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what is your point</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529253" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529253">07:43:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no matter how it ends we all lose</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529254" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529254">07:43:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you can create money using debt and NOT hyperinflate</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529255" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529255">07:43:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or you can hyperinflate</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529256" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529256">07:43:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the soviet union was far better prepared for a crash than the US is</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529257" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529257">07:43:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the creation method is irrelevant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529258" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529258">07:44:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">when credit is first created its inflationary for the rest of its life its deflationary</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529259" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529259">07:44:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">everything was already state owned</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529260" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529260">07:44:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i seriously don't see why you are talking about this, so maybe i missed your main point?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529261" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529261">07:44:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dollars are USED as tokens</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529262" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529262">07:44:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">my point is all bitcoin will do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529263" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529263">07:44:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr_: you don't think the current syetm is sustainable do you?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529264" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529264">07:44:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in our USE of them they have nothing to do with debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529265" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529265">07:44:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">is make a tiny tiny %</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529266" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529266">07:44:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sure it does mjr</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529267" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529267">07:44:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok, i buy a sandwhich</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529268" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529268">07:45:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">someone is constantly in need of dollars to pay debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529269" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529269">07:45:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its ALL debt related</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529270" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529270">07:45:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the price is set on the open market</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529271" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529271">07:45:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it isn't</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529272" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529272">07:45:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and that is where your point gets stupid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529273" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529273">07:45:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's justmore currency</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529274" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529274">07:45:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529275" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529275">07:45:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats how credit currencies have a bid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529276" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529276">07:45:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its not becuase the government says so lol.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529277" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529277">07:45:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">;;lasers</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529278" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529278">07:45:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">gribble:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529279" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529279">07:45:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its becuase of debt. theres always a shortage of dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529280" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529280">07:45:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">again, irrelelevant point</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529281" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529281">07:45:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">debt is denominated in dollars so you need them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529282" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529282">07:45:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is no shortage of dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529283" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529283">07:45:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you owe someone sure</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529284" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529284">07:45:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there always is</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529285" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529285">07:45:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529286" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529286">07:45:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats why everyone is broke</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529287" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529287">07:45:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">BTC is different because the community decides on value without government influence</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529288" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529288">07:45:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so i don't see why</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529289" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529289">07:46:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">same as dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529290" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529290">07:46:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE: btc is a commodity</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529291" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529291">07:46:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you were to sell your car</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529292" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529292">07:46:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">virtual commodity</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529293" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529293">07:46:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">youre broke, you can't afford to make a graph</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529294" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529294">07:46:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">how many dollars do you HAVE to accept</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529295" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529295">07:46:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: all dollars exist via debt. do you understand this concept</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529296" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529296">07:46:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">none, you can pick whatever number you want</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529297" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529297">07:46:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">wankhole</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529298" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529298">07:46:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529299" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529299">07:46:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so who cares</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529300" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529300">07:46:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 371 @ 0.00539919 = 2.0031 BTC [-] {5} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529301" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529301">07:46:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [+]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529302" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529302">07:46:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.47 = 1.88 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529303" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529303">07:46:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is irrelevant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529304" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529304">07:46:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">for me selling my car</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529305" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529305">07:46:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">total debt + interest surpasses all available dollars at a given time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529306" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529306">07:46:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">meaning there is a shortage of dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529307" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529307">07:46:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">again who cares</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529308" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529308">07:46:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">as long as i have some, who cares</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529309" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529309">07:46:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats why they have value</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529310" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529310">07:46:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">scarcity</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529311" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529311">07:46:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529312" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529312">07:47:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">eventually tha check comes due</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529313" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529313">07:47:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they have "value" because someone is willing to take them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529314" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529314">07:47:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes misterE</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529315" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529315">07:47:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you can blow up bubbles in the mean time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529316" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529316">07:47:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">perpetual debt is impossible</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529317" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529317">07:47:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like the S&Ls</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529318" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529318">07:47:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and big bangks</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529319" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529319">07:47:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">look...lets say i owe 50 dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529320" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529320">07:47:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">because everything in nature has a beginning and an end</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529321" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529321">07:47:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i al comes out in the wash</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529322" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529322">07:47:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">even GM</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529323" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529323">07:47:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">compound interest has no end</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529324" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529324">07:47:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">compound debt*</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529325" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529325">07:47:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and you "forgive" that debt if i do you a favotr</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529326" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529326">07:47:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr banks cant forgive debt lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529327" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529327">07:47:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">theyd be insolvent</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529328" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529328">07:47:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they can</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529329" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529329">07:47:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no they cant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529330" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529330">07:47:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and they do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529331" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529331">07:47:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes they can</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529332" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529332">07:47:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in the end we'll knock 4 or 6 zeroes off of the end and it will be business as usual :p</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529333" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529333">07:47:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">do you not live in real life</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529334" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529334">07:48:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529335" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529335">07:48:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">a bank can take loses on max 1-2% of total debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529336" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529336">07:48:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">do you not use your eyes?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529337" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529337">07:48:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they get tax credit</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529338" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529338">07:48:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529339" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529339">07:48:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in the united states about 2.5% of mortgage holders defaulted</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529340" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529340">07:48:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so they CAN forgive it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529341" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529341">07:48:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and that caused the system to be insolvent</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529342" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529342">07:48:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no they cant.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529343" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529343">07:48:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">4 mental patients walk into a bar</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529344" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529344">07:48:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">this is all irrelevant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529345" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529345">07:48:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">who cares</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529346" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529346">07:48:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">banks claim writeoffs for written down debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529347" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529347">07:48:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3550 @ 0.00088225 = 3.132 BTC [+]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529348" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529348">07:48:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE; they can only write down a tiny % of it before they are insolvent.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529349" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529349">07:48:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">exactly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529350" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529350">07:48:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there are accounting rules for doing exactly that</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529351" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529351">07:48:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">allowance for bad accounts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529352" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529352">07:48:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ill have the beef</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529353" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529353">07:49:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol yea 2008 was accounting rules</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529354" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529354">07:49:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr go back to school</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529355" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529355">07:49:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what is your point</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529356" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529356">07:49:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they CAN and DO forgive debts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529357" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529357">07:49:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">right</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529358" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529358">07:49:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which is what i said</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529359" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529359">07:49:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since reserve requirements are a pittance</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529360" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529360">07:49:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">2008 bank liabilities exceeded assets</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529361" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529361">07:49:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you said they CAN'T and DON'T</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529362" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529362">07:49:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there are no reserve requirements</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529363" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529363">07:49:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there havent been for 30 years</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529364" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529364">07:49:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">wow you are dumb</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529365" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529365">07:49:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you were selling your car...how would this matter to you?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529366" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529366">07:49:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yea there is</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529367" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529367">07:49:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">"reserve" means a tier 1 asset which is a US government bond</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529368" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529368">07:49:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which is payable in...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529369" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529369">07:49:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529370" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529370">07:49:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE lol no there isnt, the fed hasnt set reserve requirements since the 80's</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529371" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529371">07:49:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so it is a big circle jerk</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529372" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529372">07:50:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">currency reserves</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529373" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529373">07:50:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">10%</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529374" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529374">07:50:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: yes its a form of check kiting</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529375" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529375">07:50:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529376" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529376">07:50:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529377" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529377">07:50:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i really really don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529378" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529378">07:50:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE; LOL not a single bank in the US or europe has 10% currency reserves</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529379" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529379">07:50:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sup mjr_</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529380" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529380">07:50:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what up KRS-One</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529381" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529381">07:50:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they have closer to 0.5%</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529382" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529382">07:50:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">shorting this bitch =D</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529383" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529383">07:50:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hows it been</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529384" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529384">07:50:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">me too</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529385" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529385">07:50:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">up a bit</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529386" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529386">07:50:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">haha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529387" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529387">07:50:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11996645 BTC [-]</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529388" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529388">07:50:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr you will always be poor</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529389" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529389">07:50:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i hate people who are not pragmatic</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529390" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529390">07:50:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I think we have seen the bottom today boys</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529391" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529391">07:51:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you haven't answered how empiracally this would be any different when trying to sell a car</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529392" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529392">07:51:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius, where can i sinect in your kak?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529393" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529393">07:51:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or buy a sandwich</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529394" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529394">07:51:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i want either A) a certain amount of bitocoin, or B) a certain number of dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529395" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529395">07:51:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">identical</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529396" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529396">07:51:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the smartest guy in here is the one with the largest stage that inflates in value when all the dumbasses do work</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529397" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529397">07:51:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea popescu</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529398" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529398">07:51:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">he knows the game</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529399" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529399">07:51:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes, hes very handsome, but thats not all</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529400" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529400">07:51:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529401" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529401">07:52:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr your a tool.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529402" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529402">07:52:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">haha</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529403" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529403">07:52:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and youll always be one</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529404" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529404">07:52:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529405" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529405">07:52:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you have fun with your theories</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529406" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529406">07:52:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i'll keep living in the real world</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529407" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529407">07:52:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you think running around buttonwood trees with your iphone and 0.001btc matters</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529408" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529408">07:52:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">glad i don't have to share it with you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529409" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529409">07:52:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well...unlike gox we have never been hacked</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529410" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529410">07:52:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and i dont even know who you are</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529411" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529411">07:52:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you need something to take first</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529412" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529412">07:52:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but i guess you know who i am</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529413" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529413">07:52:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">before you can be hacked</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529414" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529414">07:53:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i've never seen you around here before</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529415" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529415">07:53:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ill take your moms xanax</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529416" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529416">07:53:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr arent you that buttonwood guy?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529417" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529417">07:53:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and you obviously aren't smart enough to be a part of the convo</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529418" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529418">07:53:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yep</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529419" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529419">07:53:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like i said you know who i am</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529420" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529420">07:53:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what convo lol everyone in here is clueless except 1-2 guys</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529421" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529421">07:53:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">satoshi square, blah blah blah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529422" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529422">07:53:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: i come in here once in awhile to break mirceas balls</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529423" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529423">07:53:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like i said</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529424" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529424">07:53:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are mixing up primatry market with secondary market</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529425" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529425">07:54:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i could give two shits about how tokens are created</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529426" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529426">07:54:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">go back to school</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529427" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529427">07:54:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its what you do after that that matters</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529428" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529428">07:54:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you treat it like a "debt" and you will never be repayed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529429" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529429">07:54:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i could care less</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529430" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529430">07:54:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it cant be repayed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529431" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529431">07:54:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i treat it like a token</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529432" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529432">07:54:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i already explained why lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529433" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529433">07:54:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not when the creator given them with a promise to pay back</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529434" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529434">07:54:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and it works like a token</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529435" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529435">07:54:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">exactly misterE</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529436" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529436">07:54:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">gold was what paid debts off in the past</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529437" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529437">07:54:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i could care less what the creator said or wants to do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529438" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529438">07:55:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its not xanax</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529439" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529439">07:55:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">gold was VITAL</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529440" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529440">07:55:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if i want a sandwich, i ask how many dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529441" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529441">07:55:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it's over only a matter of time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529442" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529442">07:55:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they replace gold with the US government bond</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529443" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529443">07:55:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and give them that many if it is important</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529444" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529444">07:55:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: looks like it didnt break resistance, maybe we will indeed see a new low now</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529445" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529445">07:55:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">KRS-One: i dont think we take out the late december lows</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529446" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529446">07:55:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">again, completely irrelevant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529447" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529447">07:55:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">380</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529448" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529448">07:55:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">soon as oil is denominated in another currency the jug will be up</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529449" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529449">07:55:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.462995 = 3.704 BTC [-] {2} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529450" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529450">07:55:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oil is all USD got left</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529451" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529451">07:56:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hmm right</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529452" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529452">07:56:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE: as bad as the USD is it will be the last currency to collapse</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529453" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529453">07:56:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">true</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529454" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529454">07:56:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but that is where i think you get ridiculous</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529455" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529455">07:56:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like, if no more dollars are used</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529456" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529456">07:56:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">KRS-One: despite all this shitty news and bad atmosphere we havent even exceeded late december lows</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529457" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529457">07:56:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yea people cant diversify</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529458" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529458">07:56:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we will never be able to obtain things</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529459" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529459">07:56:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like, guess commerce is done?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529460" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529460">07:56:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we just find other tokens</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529461" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529461">07:56:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius so i'm thinking lower</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529462" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529462">07:56:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and they work pretty much the same</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529463" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529463">07:56:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well yea it freezes up for a short term.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529464" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529464">07:57:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">alternatively, we can just go into prolonged slump, that will end when we diversify away from oil</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529465" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529465">07:57:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: lol its not the end of the world</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529466" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529466">07:57:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i know its not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529467" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529467">07:57:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">my point is it's irrelevant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529468" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529468">07:57:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">to what people do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529469" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529469">07:57:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and will continue to do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529470" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529470">07:57:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">jurov: I wish, what I really wish is we would pay the real cost for the oil</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529471" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529471">07:57:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: these types of collapses have been occuring every since capitalism was introduced, just the scale of them has been getting progressively wrose</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529472" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529472">07:57:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">worse</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529473" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529473">07:57:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">treat it as debt if you like</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529474" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529474">07:57:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.11064728 = 0.6639 BTC [-] {2} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529475" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529475">07:57:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i really don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529476" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529476">07:57:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">again i don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529477" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529477">07:58:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you will when your bank account is not accessible</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529478" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529478">07:58:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">im sure your bitcoins will save you then</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529479" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529479">07:58:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yea the size of the bubbles are bigger and bigger</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529480" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529480">07:58:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if you hold dollars i guess</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529481" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529481">07:58:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529482" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529482">07:58:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">now we're inflating countries like Ireland and Greece</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529483" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529483">07:58:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">paper dollars will be the only thing that have value under that scenario</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529484" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529484">07:58:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">PAPER</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529485" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529485">07:58:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cool...what do we use at satoshi square again?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529486" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529486">07:58:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not electronic</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529487" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529487">07:58:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh thats right</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529488" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529488">07:58:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">paper money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529489" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529489">07:58:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">maybe they will keep you warm if you stuff them inside your clothes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529490" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529490">07:58:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529491" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529491">07:58:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 97 @ 0.0053975 = 0.5236 BTC [-] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529492" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529492">07:58:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cuz that is tokens</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529493" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529493">07:58:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which don't rely on shit from anyone</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529494" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529494">07:58:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which is why i use them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529495" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529495">07:58:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well bitcoin is completely different then the dollar</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529496" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529496">07:58:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its not a liability</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529497" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529497">07:58:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cuz its maybe too fucking obvious</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529498" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529498">07:59:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh, so i can't buy stuff with it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529499" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529499">07:59:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i can't give it to people</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529500" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529500">07:59:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i can't be paid for my time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529501" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529501">07:59:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the problem with bitcoin is saleability</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529502" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529502">07:59:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in what way</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529503" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529503">07:59:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it has none</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529504" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529504">07:59:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">is it different</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529505" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529505">07:59:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hence why it moves 40% in a day.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529506" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529506">07:59:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i just sold today</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529507" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529507">07:59:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so it can be sold</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529508" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529508">07:59:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes but its extremely illiquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529509" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529509">07:59:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i have empiraccally proven that</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529510" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529510">07:59:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529511" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529511">07:59:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 116 @ 0.00534929 = 0.6205 BTC [-] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529512" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529512">07:59:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">illiquid != can't be sold</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529513" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529513">08:00:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so maybe you just don't get these fundamental points</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529514" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529514">08:00:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">well i like using saleability, the more btc you throw at the market what happens?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529515" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529515">08:00:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i sold some</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529516" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529516">08:00:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it collapses</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529517" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529517">08:00:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">guess what happens</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529518" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529518">08:00:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">when i sell a lot of dollars for euros?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529519" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529519">08:00:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nothing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529520" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529520">08:00:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVyS9JwtFoQ</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529521" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529521">08:00:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">ozbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">Pixies - Debaser (Official Video) - YouTube</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529522" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529522">08:00:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yep</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529523" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529523">08:00:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dollar has extreme saleability</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529524" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529524">08:00:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">fixed exchange rate</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529525" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529525">08:00:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">obviously no one trades forex</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529526" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529526">08:00:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and forex risk doesn't exist</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529527" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529527">08:00:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sorry, you are right</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529528" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529528">08:00:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you need to sell hundreds of billions to move it 0.5%</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529529" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529529">08:00:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what ?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529530" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529530">08:00:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i am silly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529531" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529531">08:00:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529532" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529532">08:00:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so you DO move the price</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529533" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529533">08:00:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ofc you do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529534" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529534">08:00:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes of course</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529535" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529535">08:00:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">slightly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529536" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529536">08:00:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i like how you agree with me every time</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529537" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529537">08:01:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin you move the price with a tiny lot</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529538" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529538">08:01:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529539" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529539">08:01:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and the saleability decreases as you keep moving</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529540" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529540">08:01:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">difference of scale not kind</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529541" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529541">08:01:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">same with anything else</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529542" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529542">08:01:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you can get rid of dollars at any time of the day</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529543" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529543">08:01:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you can walk down the street and get rid of all of them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529544" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529544">08:01:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i can get rid of bitcoin at any time of day</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529545" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529545">08:01:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats called saleability</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529546" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529546">08:01:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529547" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529547">08:01:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no you cant lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529548" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529548">08:01:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and you can do it with bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529549" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529549">08:01:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you need a willing bidder</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529550" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529550">08:01:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529551" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529551">08:01:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so if you hold euros in the us</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529552" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529552">08:01:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">are they "saleablae"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529553" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529553">08:01:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">youre projecting</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529554" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529554">08:01:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dollar has near infinite bidders</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529555" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529555">08:01:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ah shit i just posted this to -analysis http://i.imgur.com/Qsc61NR.gif</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529556" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529556">08:01:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thas nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529557" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529557">08:01:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">isnt it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529558" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529558">08:01:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr you can walk down the street and sell your dollars for products</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529559" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529559">08:02:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529560" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529560">08:02:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what is your point</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529561" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529561">08:02:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats saleability</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529562" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529562">08:02:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">why are you referencing the euro</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529563" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529563">08:02:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i can walk down the street and buy products for bitocin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529564" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529564">08:02:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you never have to touch the euro to get rid of dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529565" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529565">08:02:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so i am missing something i guess</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529566" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529566">08:02:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr LOL where?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529567" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529567">08:02:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">shrems bar?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529568" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529568">08:02:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in panama</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529569" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529569">08:02:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hotdogs?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529570" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529570">08:02:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">700k and a fresh passport</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529571" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529571">08:02:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the price of them collapses if you start selling</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529572" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529572">08:02:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.11052505 = 2.6526 BTC [-] {6} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529573" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529573">08:03:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: you'd have problems with paper dollars of higher denominations, too</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529574" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529574">08:03:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">terrae</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529575" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529575">08:03:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">my fave restaurant</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529576" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529576">08:03:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats where i am</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529577" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529577">08:03:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">btw</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529578" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529578">08:03:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not nyc</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529579" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529579">08:03:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but sure, there i could go to evr</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529580" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529580">08:03:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or use bitcoin on foodler</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529581" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529581">08:03:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or use gyft</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529582" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529582">08:03:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">same as the dollar yes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529583" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529583">08:03:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or antyhing else</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529584" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529584">08:03:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">man who walk sideways through security always going to bang cock</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529585" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529585">08:03:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">anything when you sell enough, goes down in value</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529586" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529586">08:03:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">jurov:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and don't let me start about credit cards</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529587" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529587">08:03:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr the price starts collapsing</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529588" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529588">08:03:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since it means demand has gotten smaller</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529589" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529589">08:03:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the larger size you do</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529590" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529590">08:03:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes, just like it would with dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529591" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529591">08:03:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no it wont</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529592" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529592">08:03:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or anything on earht</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529593" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529593">08:03:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">theres nobody on the planet</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529594" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529594">08:03:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that can tank the dollar market</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529595" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529595">08:03:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok, say everyone in the world does not want dollars for oil</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529596" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529596">08:04:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they won't accept dollars for oil</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529597" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529597">08:04:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">someone else will need them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529598" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529598">08:04:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no change to the dollars value?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529599" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529599">08:04:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">to pay debt off.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529600" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529600">08:04:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529601" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529601">08:04:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nope</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529602" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529602">08:04:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">freefalling</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529603" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529603">08:04:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since debt can be denominated in anything</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529604" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529604">08:04:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i can have a euro backed devt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529605" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529605">08:04:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or a yen backed debt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529606" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529606">08:04:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">majority of debt is denominated in dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529607" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529607">08:04:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">when stamp hits 425 I'll buy</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529608" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529608">08:04:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is something called "competing currencies" you should look it up</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529609" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529609">08:04:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529610" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529610">08:04:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh will you 2 get a room already :p</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529611" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529611">08:04:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">misterE you missed your chance</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529612" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529612">08:04:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">MisterE: you wont want to do that</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529613" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529613">08:04:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lower..</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529614" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529614">08:04:52</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are saying "this is the way it HAS to be" and proving that "this is the way it IS"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529615" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529615">08:04:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">really?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529616" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529616">08:04:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529617" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529617">08:05:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">too uch support at 400</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529618" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529618">08:05:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if no one wants dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529619" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529619">08:05:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the dollar is worthless</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529620" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529620">08:05:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the bottom was in</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529621" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529621">08:05:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">recheck your analysis</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529622" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529622">08:05:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if no one wants bitcoin, bitcoin is worthless</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529623" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529623">08:05:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in other words</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529624" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529624">08:05:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if it breaks 400 it's a rout</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529625" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529625">08:05:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the value is set by the supply and demand of the item in question</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529626" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529626">08:05:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tripple bottom off the late december lows</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529627" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529627">08:05:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: there is over $11 million loaned out on long positions..they're going to get squeezed out</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529628" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529628">08:05:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">regardless of whether it was issued by a govt, mined on a blockchain, or came out of my ass</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529629" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529629">08:05:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I dont think traditional SA applies to CC charts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529630" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529630">08:06:09</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529631" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529631">08:06:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">KRS-One: what site</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529632" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529632">08:06:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sry bitfinex</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529633" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529633">08:06:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitfinex of course</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529634" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529634">08:06:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">is there another site with lending?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529635" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529635">08:06:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">winkidex</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529636" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529636">08:06:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think btc.sx</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529637" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529637">08:06:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">10:1!</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529638" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529638">08:06:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nuts huh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529639" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529639">08:06:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh really</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529640" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529640">08:06:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">crazy</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529641" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529641">08:06:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">can you short 10:1</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529642" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529642">08:06:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529643" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529643">08:06:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">:)</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529644" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529644">08:06:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">MisterE:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that'll get you in trouble</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529645" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529645">08:07:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah i wouldnt touch it though</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529646" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529646">08:07:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">me neither</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529647" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529647">08:07:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">doesnt it auto liquidate</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529648" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529648">08:07:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the variance is too high</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529649" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529649">08:07:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it would</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529650" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529650">08:07:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529651" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529651">08:07:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it'll hodl</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529652" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529652">08:07:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitfinex does</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529653" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529653">08:07:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what happens when your underwater then?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529654" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529654">08:07:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">trims positions, no?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529655" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529655">08:07:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats what i just asked</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529656" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529656">08:07:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cie</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529657" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529657">08:07:43</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">hmm check i could be wrong</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529658" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529658">08:07:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i am betting they have some sort of autoliquidation</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529659" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529659">08:07:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">krs one you cant do 10:1 shorting with btc where are they borrowing them from</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529660" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529660">08:08:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what 0.1 btc</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529661" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529661">08:08:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is no other way to avoid that scenario</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529662" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529662">08:08:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you can only do btc in tiny sizes</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529663" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529663">08:08:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i mean, you CAN do whatever you want</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529664" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529664">08:08:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its too illiquid for anything else</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529665" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529665">08:08:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you have personality disorder</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529666" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529666">08:08:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no you cant nobody will lend you 10x btc</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529667" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529667">08:08:37</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">theyd go bankrupt</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529668" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529668">08:08:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">sure they would</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529669" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529669">08:08:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">check for yourself</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529670" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529670">08:08:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">where?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529671" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529671">08:08:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you seem to use the word can and can't in strange ways</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529672" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529672">08:08:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">im talking about size</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529673" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529673">08:09:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">500btc 1000btc</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529674" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529674">08:09:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that aren't the ways the rest of us use them</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529675" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529675">08:09:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not 0.005</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529676" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529676">08:09:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529677" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529677">08:09:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">big, all over</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529678" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529678">08:09:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so, i can go bankrupt, right?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529679" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529679">08:09:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which means i can lend coins in whatever size i wanted</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529680" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529680">08:09:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr someone giving you 10:1 leverage</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529681" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529681">08:09:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i WOULDN'T</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529682" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529682">08:09:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">why not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529683" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529683">08:09:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is different from CAN'T</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529684" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529684">08:09:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">becuase youd go bust dumbass</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529685" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529685">08:09:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like i said variance is too high</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529686" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529686">08:09:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">peaks and troughs</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529687" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529687">08:10:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i think that actually is why we disagree</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529688" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529688">08:10:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">your an idiot, bitcoins main issue is piss poor liquidity and overall tiny market</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529689" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529689">08:10:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">because you keep using the word HAS TO and CAN and CANNOT and IMPOSSIBLE</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529690" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529690">08:10:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you're begging for 50k</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529691" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529691">08:10:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">to things that i have seen happen</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529692" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529692">08:10:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it cannot be impossible if i've seen it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529693" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529693">08:10:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">weird mother fucker</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529694" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529694">08:10:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or else we just throw logic right out</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529695" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529695">08:10:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">listen pal, every credit instrument in bitcoin will bust out sooner then later</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529696" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529696">08:10:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529697" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529697">08:10:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats what happens under a deflationary system</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529698" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529698">08:10:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">have you heard of this thing called the pink sheets</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529699" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529699">08:10:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its an otc market</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529700" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529700">08:10:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">your prof tell you that?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529701" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529701">08:10:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it also has poor liquidity</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529702" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529702">08:11:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so that means equities will never work</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529703" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529703">08:11:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yea its the junk market.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529704" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529704">08:11:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">because otc markets are illiquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529705" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529705">08:11:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol 99% of the otc market is junk</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529706" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529706">08:11:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ok</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529707" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529707">08:11:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529708" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529708">08:11:27</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are saying that because of POOR exchanges</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529709" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529709">08:11:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin MUST be illiquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529710" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529710">08:11:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i didnt say why</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529711" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529711">08:11:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">im saying it is</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529712" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529712">08:11:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is no world in which bitcoin is not illiquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529713" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529713">08:11:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i agree</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529714" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529714">08:11:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but since i have the ability to picture other markets</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529715" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529715">08:11:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which have matured</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529716" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529716">08:12:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i can picture a market for bitcoin that is not ililquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529717" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529717">08:12:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and that does function efficiently</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529718" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529718">08:12:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like for example forex</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529719" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529719">08:12:22</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin is too illiquid to function as anything other then a speculative tool, in terms of money in only functions as such in cybercrime for example because there are NO alternatives.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529720" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529720">08:12:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">right NOW</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529721" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529721">08:12:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but you just said that you were talking about the way it is now</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529722" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529722">08:12:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it could be different</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529723" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529723">08:12:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it has been different</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529724" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529724">08:12:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it has changed a lot</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529725" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529725">08:12:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">only thing giving btc liquidity is cybercrime</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529726" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529726">08:12:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and you seem to think that time doesn't exist</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529727" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529727">08:12:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529728" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529728">08:13:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its not nerds meeting up with pennys underneath a tree</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529729" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529729">08:13:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">of course</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529730" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529730">08:13:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so playboy</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529731" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529731">08:13:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tigerdirect</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529732" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529732">08:13:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">trading 50 dollars</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529733" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529733">08:13:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">which tree do they meet up at?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529734" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529734">08:13:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tigerdirect is zero sum</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529735" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529735">08:13:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ah theres only one fuck this mad</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529736" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529736">08:13:28</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ciao bellas</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529737" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529737">08:13:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you said "cannot function"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529738" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529738">08:13:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they dont accept btc they accept bitpay</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529739" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529739">08:13:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">same diff</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529740" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529740">08:13:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they settle in DOLLARS</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529741" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529741">08:13:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529742" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529742">08:13:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since I AM PAYING WITH BITCOIN</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529743" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529743">08:13:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes its no different then selling them at an exchange for usd</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529744" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529744">08:13:53</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and then paying with usd</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529745" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529745">08:13:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i could give two shits what happens between me paying bitcoin and getting the product i want</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529746" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529746">08:13:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529747" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529747">08:14:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what did i pay with?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529748" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529748">08:14:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tigerdirect means zero.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529749" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529749">08:14:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what did i get?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529750" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529750">08:14:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i again, don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529751" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529751">08:14:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i pay with the currency i chose</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529752" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529752">08:14:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and get the product i wanted</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529753" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529753">08:14:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you don't understand the diference between today's bitcoin and the inherent properties of bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529754" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529754">08:14:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius, can you give me a quote on dogs?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529755" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529755">08:14:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin is not limited to illiquidity</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529756" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529756">08:14:58</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dogs?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529757" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529757">08:14:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it is illiquid right now</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529758" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529758">08:15:03</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.0053136 = 0.4517 BTC [+] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529759" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529759">08:15:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mjr: it will always be illiquid.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529760" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529760">08:15:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">like for example twitter shares were illiquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529761" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529761">08:15:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yes, ive got some things here and im trying to decide</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529762" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529762">08:15:25</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or facebook, and now, they are MORE liquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529763" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529763">08:15:32</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">funny how things change...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529764" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529764">08:15:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ugh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529765" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529765">08:15:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yea and in bitcoin they dont.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529766" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529766">08:15:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are such an idiot...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529767" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529767">08:15:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">of course</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529768" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529768">08:15:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it is JUST as illiquid as it was in 2009</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529769" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529769">08:15:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">bitcoin will always be a niche place</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529770" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529770">08:15:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">obviuosly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529771" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529771">08:16:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you said that its state of liquidity is fixed</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529772" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529772">08:16:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00539182 = 0.2265 BTC [+] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529773" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529773">08:16:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">no</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529774" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529774">08:16:08</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">or are you going to change what you said again</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529775" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529775">08:16:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">oh ok</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529776" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529776">08:16:12</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">its state of liquidity will always be poor</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529777" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529777">08:16:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so it can become MORE liquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529778" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529778">08:16:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">at what point will it cease being able to become more liquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529779" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529779">08:16:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">it will never be liquid enough</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529780" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529780">08:16:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">what is its inherent liquidity barrier</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529781" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529781">08:16:38</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">look its 2014</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529782" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529782">08:16:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since there must be one</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529783" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529783">08:16:42</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">dignork:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius enough for what?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529784" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529784">08:16:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and we have 40% daily swings occuring</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529785" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529785">08:16:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">since at some point it cannot become more liquid</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529786" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529786">08:16:48</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">thats nice</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529787" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529787">08:16:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i don't care</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529788" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529788">08:16:57</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">could bitcoin become MORE liquid tomorrow</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529789" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529789">08:17:04</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">if it can, then it could keep doing so...</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529790" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529790">08:17:05</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 610 @ 0.00539989 = 3.2939 BTC [+] {3} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529791" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529791">08:17:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and that is what you don't get</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529792" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529792">08:17:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dignork: enough for it to be used as settlement without having to go through shit like bitpay</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529793" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529793">08:17:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the issues you bring up have nothing to do with bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529794" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529794">08:17:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">but rather immature markets for ANYTHING</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529795" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529795">08:17:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">nobody outside of cybercrime(gambling,porn,frauds) settles in bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529796" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529796">08:17:40</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and those that do do it from necessity</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529797" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529797">08:17:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">not because they want to lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529798" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529798">08:17:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529799" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529799">08:17:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">im not talking about your little nerd with 0.01 balance</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529800" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529800">08:18:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">your argument for the dollar was its "necessity"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529801" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529801">08:18:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 24 @ 0.00539989 = 0.1296 BTC [+] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529802" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529802">08:18:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">dignork:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius in some countries you can't settle for USD, you have to go through exchange, so what?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529803" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529803">08:18:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">because we couldn't have debts without it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529804" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529804">08:18:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yeah</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529805" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529805">08:18:14</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Apocalyptic:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius, i lol'd</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529806" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529806">08:18:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius: according to btc.sx faq: For each position opened, btc.sx will execute an open market order at over x10 the value of your deposit.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529807" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529807">08:18:20</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is this thing called "international trade"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529808" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529808">08:18:29</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dignork: right</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529809" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529809">08:18:31</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">get off the couch cerel</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529810" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529810">08:18:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you do know they don't use dollars everywhere</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529811" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529811">08:18:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">It is important to remember that losses can also be multiplied however losses will never exceed your deposit.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529812" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529812">08:18:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">right?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529813" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529813">08:18:46</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">in other words they will autoliquidate you</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529814" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529814">08:18:47</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dignork: im talking about nobody settles for anything other then fiat at the moment in btc, OTHER then those groups i outlined</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529815" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529815">08:18:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">yea</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529816" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529816">08:18:59</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">krs-one: yea so they have some protection in place</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529817" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529817">08:19:07</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 650 @ 0.0054 = 3.51 BTC [+] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529818" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529818">08:19:11</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">there is also no control over this =/</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529819" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529819">08:19:13</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">protection? yeah, you can only lose all your money</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529820" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529820">08:19:18</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tigerdirect adopted bitpay not bitcoin lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529821" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529821">08:19:21</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you are fully "protected"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529822" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529822">08:19:23</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">dignork:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius i'm not a "cybercriminal" and for some transactions I settle for btc, problem?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529823" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529823">08:19:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">don't bother</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529824" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529824">08:19:33</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dignork what did i say?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529825" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529825">08:19:36</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tiny ass ammounts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529826" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529826">08:19:39</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">for every obvious real world example</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529827" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529827">08:19:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">KRS-One:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">tiny</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529828" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529828">08:19:41</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">he will dismiss it</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529829" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529829">08:19:49</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">the problem with adopting bitpay or coinbase</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529830" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529830">08:19:50</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">chetty:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">I settle with btc, and I am not a criminal either</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529831" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529831">08:19:55</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">is you can never offer clients huge discounts</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529832" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529832">08:19:56</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">he is wrong about pretty every statement, goes back and says he didn't mean "ALL"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529833" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529833">08:20:00</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i do as well</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529834" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529834">08:20:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you can offer 1-2%</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529835" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529835">08:20:06</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we all probably settle using bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529836" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529836">08:20:16</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea does</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529837" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529837">08:20:17</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">jurov does</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529838" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529838">08:20:19</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">Vexual:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">wanna learn?</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529839" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529839">08:20:26</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea is part of the fraud category lol</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529840" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529840">08:20:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">dignork:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">cerelenius nonsense, discounts are based on your sales strategy, btc or not</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529841" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529841">08:21:01</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">dignork: merchants are adopting bitpay/coinbase to tap into the btc liquidity and the free publicity they get, nobody is settling in btc outright</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529842" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529842">08:21:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">so it seems that it is possible</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529843" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529843">08:21:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you see a dog swimming, you think that dogs are aquatic creatures</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529844" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529844">08:21:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">that is the problem</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529845" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529845">08:21:02</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">exactly</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529846" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529846">08:21:10</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">assbot:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00548 = 2.74 BTC [+] {4} </span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529847" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529847">08:21:15</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">i will sell my products for the amount of currency i want</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529848" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529848">08:21:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">at no point have you ever shown me an example of how it is different to buy something with a dollar and a bitcoin</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529849" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529849">08:21:24</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">as far as price setting</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529850" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529850">08:21:30</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">who settles in btc on a larger scale? gambling sites, porn, strange "finance" operations etc.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529851" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529851">08:21:34</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">they do it out of necessity</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529852" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529852">08:21:35</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">we listed multiple people who do settle</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529853" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529853">08:21:44</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">and they only settle using dollars "out of necessity"</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529854" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529854">08:21:45</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">you listed nobody.</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529855" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529855">08:21:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">cerelenius:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">mircea cant use fiat</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows lightgray" > <span id="529856" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529856">08:21:51</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">ugh</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <p class="chatrows darkgray" > <span id="529857" class="spanleft datef"><a href="/?date=25-02-2014#529857">08:21:54</a></span> <span class="spanleft nickf">mjr_:</span> <span class="spanleft msgf">he can</span> </p> </div> </div> <div class="row"> <div class="column grid_10"> <