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00:05:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26284 @ 0.00092551 = 24.3261 BTC [+]

00:08:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0388898 = 0.1944 BTC [+]

00:13:21 dub: sadly -assets, your fish pie will never be as good as mine

00:17:09 nubbins`: ;(

00:20:28 Mats_cd03: gross

00:26:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0388899 = 0.1556 BTC [+]

00:29:22 dub: sounds like someone that has never had dub's fish pie

00:29:38 dub: I could IPO this fukcing pie

00:32:04 dub: if you spent 10k BTC on this pie in 2011 you'd still be feeling good about the deal

00:35:07 dub: if obamacare was this pie, mircea would be signing up for that shit

00:36:49 kakobrekla: here is a little know fact; http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2926533

00:36:50 assbot: TubeChop - The Computer Chronicles - Programming Languages (1990) (00:24)

00:38:03 dub: use computer erryday

00:38:58 Mats_cd03: not a big fan of seafood

00:39:49 Mats_cd03: all the fish in the sea can choke to death on acid as far as im concerned

00:41:05 dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oabRxvjf9k

00:41:05 assbot: Dr. Timothy Leary explains his MIND MIRROR computer program. - YouTube

00:41:34 benkay: what's the name for the bitcoin architecture of cryptocurrencies?

00:42:27 Mats_cd03: supa hot fiyaaaa

00:42:40 dub: sounds a bit like lopher? :)

00:43:36 *: dub thinks benkay's been using the computer

00:43:43 kakobrekla: lel

00:44:32 benkay: how would one draw a distinction between, say Ethereum, Bitcoin and Monero?

00:44:36 benkay: lexically, that is.

01:09:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48250 @ 0.00092537 = 44.6491 BTC [-] {4}

01:14:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]

01:19:01 Mats_cd03: this is your chance to coin a phrase

01:22:53 Mats_cd03: dub: dude's cooked out of his mind

01:57:21 *: dub goes in on some more fish pie

02:09:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]

02:14:39 dub: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=625193.0

02:14:39 assbot: DayBitTrader Soft Announcement

02:15:05 dub: prediction: all will end well

02:15:53 mircea_popescu: lmao

02:16:01 mircea_popescu: fish pie productions ?

02:16:06 mircea_popescu: i mean predictions

02:20:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010224 = 0.1022 BTC [+]

02:24:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.03800006 = 0.304 BTC [+] {3}

02:25:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 32 @ 0.03789375 = 1.2126 BTC [-] {3}

02:25:19 dub: they say fish is brain food

02:25:58 mircea_popescu: gotta have a brain first :D

02:29:12 []bot: Bet created: "X.EUR contract monthly renewal canceled in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/867/

02:30:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]

03:24:43 thestringpuller: dub where have you been?

03:24:44 thestringpuller: lol

03:38:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27250 @ 0.00092061 = 25.0866 BTC [-] {2}

03:39:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.0189743 = 0.1708 BTC [-] {2}

04:02:34 benkay: !up random_cat

04:02:40 benkay: hey thar

04:02:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12001 @ 0.0009198 = 11.0385 BTC [-]

04:05:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15118 @ 0.00092111 = 13.9253 BTC [+] {2}

04:08:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00092382 = 17.0445 BTC [+]

04:12:14 thestringpuller: benkay: is weed legal where you live?

04:14:41 benkay: kinda irrelevant...

04:14:53 benkay: i do a lot of illegal things.

04:15:02 benkay: but no. across the river, though...

04:18:48 benkay: !up tokyopotato

04:19:22 tokyopotato: take me to the river...

04:19:27 tokyopotato: dip me in the water... xD

04:22:44 benkay: ;;gettrust tokyopotato

04:22:44 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user tokyopotato: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=tokyopotato | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=tokyopotato | Rated since: never

04:24:08 tokyopotato: We have such an awesome in-depth piece on the Dark Wallet coming out. I can't wait to share it with you guys, we should have it finished over the next couple days @ CoinJoint

04:24:20 benkay: oh quit spamming tokyopotato

04:24:23 tokyopotato: lol

04:24:24 thestringpuller: Dark Wallet?

04:24:31 thestringpuller: Dark Net?

04:24:58 benkay: browserwallet?

04:25:00 benkay: anathema!

04:25:04 tokyopotato: lol

04:25:26 thestringpuller: Bowser Wallet

04:25:30 thestringpuller: you should sell that to Nintendo

04:25:33 tokyopotato: Luigi wallet

04:25:44 tokyopotato: Luigi>Mario

04:35:19 tokyopotato: assbot

04:35:20 tokyopotato: nice

04:36:33 benkay: !t h rent

04:36:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00558000 / 0.00561954 / 0.00588990 (18 shares, 0.10115176 BTC), 7D: 0.00558000 / 0.00580697 / 0.00622490 (1203 shares, 6.98578369 BTC), 30D: 0.00532500 / 0.00625411 / 0.00750000 (8256 shares, 51.63390120 BTC)

05:03:35 random_cat: 'sup benkay?

05:09:37 toffoo: niceee ... hot shaved lesbos posing with their mining gear on reddit today: http://i.imgur.com/kKzomyS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ZGfwDSo.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FCmTso1.jpg

05:13:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.0192279 = 0.2884 BTC [+]

05:17:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1486 BTC [-]

05:21:51 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/btcguild-bans-accounts/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=btcguild-bans-accounts

05:21:52 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/block-data-added/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=block-data-added

05:21:53 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/live-streaming-trade-data-added/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=live-streaming-trade-data-added

05:21:54 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/02/building-bitcoin-0-7-2-on-openbsd/

05:21:55 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/mark-karpeles-trendon-shavers/

05:21:56 penguirker: New blog post: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/05/02/yo-bitcoin-assets-i-put-contrarianism-in-your-contrarianism/

05:21:57 penguirker: New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/i-wear-what-suits-you/

05:31:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.4722906 = 8.0289 BTC [-] {4}

05:35:37 fluffypony: penguirker is confused

05:38:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.03886392 = 0.3886 BTC [+] {2}

05:46:14 artifexd: toffoo: You want esd? 'Cause that's how you get esd.

05:54:17 Mats_cd03: bcoinnews is trash what is this

05:56:00 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "1BTC >= $10,000 USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/635/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 449.86965777 BTC. Current weight: 49,995.

05:56:25 Mats_cd03: which asset-er is responsible? step your game up

06:01:45 Mats_cd03: pankkake: http://imgur.com/QzjqWFG on Firefox29, wat is goin on in these boxes

06:01:45 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

06:07:33 Mats_cd03: http://untainted.svbtle.com/exploiting-windows-dep-for-stealth-breakpoints

06:07:34 assbot: Exploitation of Windows DEP to Implement Stealth Breakpoints

06:07:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47251378 BTC [+]

06:09:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47251378 BTC [+]

06:12:18 Mats_cd03: http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2014/05/vehicle-sales-forecasts-over-16-million.html

06:12:18 assbot: Calculated Risk: Vehicle Sales Forecasts: Over 16 Million SAAR in May

06:20:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9063 @ 0.00092224 = 8.3583 BTC [-] {3}

06:37:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18911 @ 0.000922 = 17.4359 BTC [-]

06:37:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47252067 BTC [+]

06:57:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47200636 BTC [-]

07:01:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4725 = 0.945 BTC [+] {2}

07:30:14 davout: good morning

07:30:27 jurov: hi davout

07:41:19 fluffypony: davout: morning

07:41:39 fluffypony: davout: so now that bitcoin-central is going to cease to exist in its current form, does that mean the bet is a yes?

07:42:52 jurov: afaik it will just continue as pyamium

07:43:07 jurov: pamium

07:43:10 jurov: paymum

07:43:12 jurov: argh

07:43:27 fluffypony: yes - but the bet was specific, no?

07:44:40 jurov: i bet that it will be decided in other way as the iOS one :D

07:45:08 Apocalyptic: as formulated the bet is tied to the domain Bitcoin-central.net

07:45:57 fluffypony: I was under that impression too

07:47:53 punkman: I don't see why a simple name change is a problem

07:49:14 jurov: no it only says about end of operations or low volume

07:49:18 jurov: neither is the case

07:49:48 jurov: and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds

07:49:58 jurov: i don't see any reason to close it as No

07:50:32 Apocalyptic: <jurov> and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds // you have a point

07:50:57 pankkake: I agree with jurov. redirect + nothing else changes

07:51:06 pankkake: but that's not up to us, is it? :)

07:53:35 jurov: http://bitbet.us/bet/867/x-eur-contract-monthly-renewal-canceled-in-2014/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc but this got my attention

07:53:35 assbot: BitBet - X.EUR contract monthly renewal canceled in 2014 :: 0.44 B (88%) on Yes, 0.06 B (12%) on No | closing in 7 months 4 days | weight: 99`895 (100`000 to 1)

07:53:50 jurov: why would davout do it? AML?

07:56:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.47210005 = 0.9442 BTC [-] {2}

07:58:27 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 88(Y):12(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.69632357 BTC. Current weight: 99,515.

08:01:49 punkman: jurov, maybe because there is so little volume

08:04:45 jurov: that needs time ( and margin ;) )

08:07:27 davout: :)

08:08:07 punkman: !d m x.eur

08:08:35 punkman: too many bots to remember :/

08:09:22 davout: !t m x.eur

08:09:22 assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00234873 / 0.00234873 / 0.00234873 (714 shares, 1.68 BTC), 7D: 0.00234873 / 0.00261468 / 0.00303014 (5250 shares, 13.73 BTC), 30D: 0.0019005 / 0.00277485 / 0.00328679 (7874 shares, 21.85 BTC)

08:13:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.472 BTC [-]

08:30:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.472 = 1.888 BTC [-]

08:34:16 kakobrekla: <jurov> and since the domain itself will be redirected to paymium where you can log in with your old creds // you have a point < he does not. someone can hax bcentral, steal the logins, redirect it to some x site using the stolen logins. would fit description.

08:41:35 Apocalyptic: it would kako

08:41:44 Apocalyptic: doesn't contradict the fact he has a point imo

08:42:21 Apocalyptic: the bet clearly states "Bitcoin-central.net will cease exchanging BTC [...]"

08:42:38 Apocalyptic: not Bitcoin-Central as an entity

08:42:54 kakobrekla: "redirect to another url and login with same info" is worth 0.

08:43:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30277 @ 0.00091915 = 27.8291 BTC [-] {4}

08:43:57 Apocalyptic: the bet should have then read (The Bitcoin-Central trading platform, currently hosted on bitcoin-central.net, will cease exchanging...)

08:44:09 kakobrekla: shoulda woulda coulda

08:47:00 pankkake: :( specifiying bets is hard

08:47:17 Apocalyptic: it is

08:48:58 pankkake: "Satoshi Nakamoto to win Nobel Prize in Economics in 2014" lol

08:57:14 xmj: lol

09:07:27 davout: kakobrekla: bitch please, gpg-signed statement

09:07:29 davout: :D

09:07:44 kakobrekla: ;)

09:29:08 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin network difficulty > 14Bn on Bastille day" http://bitbet.us/bet/677/ Odds: 88(Y):12(N) by coin, 82(Y):18(N) by weight. Total bet: 128.11816472 BTC. Current weight: 10,792.

09:37:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0001663 = 0.1663 BTC [+]

09:37:37 pankkake: !up Quanttek

09:39:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00091983 = 13.3835 BTC [+]

10:07:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00450095 = 0.4501 BTC [-] {2}

10:23:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00091806 = 11.4298 BTC [-] {2}

10:26:05 dexX7: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny hm lol

10:26:06 assbot: Huobi BTC/CNY Charts - BitcoinWisdom

10:29:06 jurov: "redirect it to some x site using the stolen logins. would fit description." how so?

10:29:26 jurov: 1. they'd need to keep volume till bet closes

10:29:53 jurov: 2. there'd be official announcement from b-c

10:30:08 kakobrekla: nah

10:30:24 kakobrekla: i open bitcoin-central and see some porn site, i login with my bc login and it works

10:30:59 jurov: and how would pr0n site avoid tripping on these two conditions?

10:31:09 kakobrekla: just saying that "go to the url and login and see if it works" is shitty argument

10:31:30 jurov: it does *not* wotk as the bet says

10:32:00 jurov: whereas b-c -> paymium will fullfill the bet conditions

10:32:43 jurov: what if paymium will be fullscreen iframe in bitcoin-central.net ? what now?

10:34:55 kakobrekla: ;;google bongwater what if

10:34:56 gribble: Bongwater - What If? - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKdVLQENSw; iTunes - Music - Bongwater: https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/bongwater/id153598278; Box of Bongwater - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_of_Bongwater

10:36:11 jurov: heh. but the point stands, it is the equvalent of redirect and it's actually one of unfavorable memories of mine as sysadmin

10:42:00 kakobrekla: <jurov> 1. they'd need to keep volume till bet closes < can you verify the volume is true?

10:42:58 jurov: can you do it now, while it is b-c?

10:43:06 kakobrekla: exactly.

10:43:36 jurov: not many complaints, so it's generally accepted as non-fake

10:44:44 kakobrekla: so at what complaint-rate is it not generally accepted as non-fake?

10:44:52 jurov: maybe davout bribes erryone, what do we know

10:45:48 jurov: i'd say 100kB/day

10:46:03 kakobrekla: plain or rich text?

10:46:54 davout: kakobrekla: bc was a fake all along, having never provably started it can therefore not provably stop operating, and its volume has always been imaginary, therefore it can't drop, therefore bet resolves as 'No'

10:47:07 jurov: well, that's actually for bitbet to set the limit... and if memepics are to be included, too

10:47:33 kakobrekla: thanks for the clarification davout .

10:47:39 jurov: i can vouch they sent me completely imaginary euros to my account

10:47:39 kakobrekla: ;)

10:48:03 jurov: later :)

10:48:09 kakobrekla: cya

11:06:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00091683 = 14.6693 BTC [-] {3}

11:08:41 fluffypony: yo dawg, I herd you like bread: http://i.imgur.com/3ik6D37.jpg

11:27:14 BigBitz: lol, fluffypony.

11:32:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15421 @ 0.00092259 = 14.2273 BTC [+] {3}

11:34:09 kakobrekla: here, my unpopular fellas, http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2928656

11:34:10 assbot: TubeChop - The Computer Chronicles - Slowdown in Silicon Valley #2 (1985) (00:19)

11:35:46 *: fluffypony needs a whisky and it's only 1:35pm

11:35:48 fluffypony: oh well, beer it is

11:42:09 mircea_popescu: o hei

11:42:24 mircea_popescu: apparently i found the only decent connection in all of ba

11:45:18 fluffypony: ohaaai

11:46:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 83 @ 0.00458 = 0.3801 BTC [+] {2}

11:50:31 davout: heil

11:52:16 mircea_popescu: how goes paris davout ?

11:52:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2579 @ 0.00092409 = 2.3832 BTC [+]

11:52:40 davout: rainy

11:53:08 davout: not enough sun, not enough skirts

11:53:32 mircea_popescu: o boy.

11:53:48 mircea_popescu: they don't do skirts here either, they think it's winter and muy muy frio.

11:53:58 mircea_popescu: you should see the chicks huddled up in heavy duty winter wear

11:54:14 mircea_popescu: meanwhile it's... 16. the wind is moreover pleasant. i don't even wear an overcoat.

11:54:18 davout: you're in turkey, right?

11:54:24 mircea_popescu: nah, argentina

11:55:22 davout: k got confused with the istanbul thing

11:55:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.00555054 = 0.1388 BTC [-] {4}

11:56:11 mircea_popescu: i know, kinda why i put it there :d

11:56:14 mircea_popescu: !up breadboard

11:56:21 breadboard: thanks mircea_popescu

11:56:32 breadboard: have anyone seen moiety around recently?

11:56:33 mircea_popescu: yw

11:56:38 mircea_popescu: you can give her a call.

11:58:26 pankkake: I like it when it's slightly cold and rainy

11:58:32 davout: kakobrekla should put the phone number in the topic

11:58:45 fluffypony: kakobrekla thinks it's too circle-jerky to do that

11:59:06 davout: fluffypony: lol

11:59:22 mircea_popescu: he srsly should tho.

11:59:45 mircea_popescu: this is absurd, calling a woman on the phone is jerky ? that's the anti-jerky.

12:00:00 moiety: I'm unsure who just called me

12:00:09 mircea_popescu: moiety, maybe breadboard ?

12:00:27 mircea_popescu: pankkake, it's not even rainy. just river-y.

12:00:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

12:00:50 davout: "set chan to +m, nobody bats an eye, suggest the phone number be added to the topic : TOO CIRCLE JERKY"

12:01:05 mircea_popescu: +m isn't circlejerky you heretic

12:01:19 mircea_popescu: it just silences people unaculturated to bitcoin.

12:01:20 mircea_popescu: :D

12:09:07 mircea_popescu: moiety, did you ever see this one http://i.imgur.com/LmbZqvV.jpg

12:09:41 BigBitz: it spams the WoT :)

12:09:58 mircea_popescu: lol who ? wut ?

12:11:00 BigBitz: the +m

12:11:06 pankkake: it adds entries like "#bitcoin-assets +m"?

12:11:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: doesn't have a purpose or an intent or a role. it simply is << ever play the '80s game 'M.U.L.E.' ? << no i haven't. for my shame and to my detriment, it turns out!

12:11:16 mircea_popescu: oh i see.

12:11:35 mircea_popescu: well, i would argue it is not spamming it in that it actually reflects both trust and political intent. which is what the wot does.

12:11:45 pankkake: looking at my ratings, I should probably have more >1

12:12:02 BigBitz: It's more akin to spamming than a reflection of trust, really.

12:12:09 BigBitz: there are lots of +1 Assets +v ratings.

12:12:20 BigBitz: do they /actually/ trust each other or do they just want a +v ? :)

12:12:26 fluffypony: ;;gettrust pankkake

12:12:27 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask pankkake!~anus@inara.p.engu.in. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013

12:12:39 mircea_popescu: pankkake, i've noticed there's a hard wall where people who are trustworthy and well known but who don't do anything major are about 1.x on average, even if over 100 raqtings

12:12:46 mircea_popescu: you need to do something to climb

12:12:49 fluffypony: "has OCD and is a clown. do not do business"

12:12:53 fluffypony: lawlz

12:13:00 BigBitz: ;;gettrust pankkake

12:13:01 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask pankkake!~anus@inara.p.engu.in. Trust relationship from user BigBitz to user pankkake: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BigBitz&dest=pankkake | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pankkake | Rated since: Thu Jun 6 12:07:25 2013

12:13:11 pankkake: I meant the ratings I created, not the ones I received

12:13:23 mircea_popescu: BigBitz, well, they trust each other enough to v. you ever read http://fraudsters.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ btw ?

12:13:24 assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

12:13:31 pankkake: I don't really have a reason to get good ratings

12:13:43 mircea_popescu: pankkake, well so that you need to tell yourself then :D

12:14:08 pankkake: yes, I talk to myself

12:14:09 pankkake: :)

12:14:40 mircea_popescu: lol

12:14:58 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` canada looks scarier and scarier.

12:15:00 gribble: The operation succeeded.

12:16:33 fluffypony: ;;rated pankkake

12:16:34 gribble: You have not yet rated user pankkake

12:16:37 fluffypony: oh noez

12:16:47 davout: ;;rated pankkake

12:16:48 gribble: You have not yet rated user pankkake

12:17:00 davout: pankkake: come have coffee, get a rating

12:17:04 fluffypony: ;;rate pankkake 1 The Trolliest Troll of Trollsville. Keeps people in line on Bitcointalk.

12:17:05 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user pankkake has been recorded.

12:17:07 BigBitz: pankkake is on ratings watch :)

12:17:09 pankkake: lol

12:17:23 BigBitz: pankkake +BTN rating :D

12:17:24 pankkake: I'm adding one to most of my sent ratings right now

12:17:30 fluffypony: ;;rated mircea_popescu

12:17:31 gribble: You have not yet rated user mircea_popescu

12:17:36 mircea_popescu: o.O

12:17:42 mircea_popescu: ;;rated fluffypony

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12:17:46 mircea_popescu: wtf.

12:17:48 fluffypony: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 dons a dapper suit whilst dishing out devilish advice and Bitcoins

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12:18:03 mircea_popescu: i was sure i rated you what is this

12:18:23 pankkake: ;;rate fluffypony 1 who wouldn't trust a pony

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12:18:28 fluffypony: LOL

12:19:10 mircea_popescu: ;;rate fluffypony 1 I don't know him but his wife sends me selfies.

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12:19:16 fluffypony: hah hah

12:19:42 pankkake: nice

12:19:44 mircea_popescu: talk about spamming the wot. that thing didn't have so much lulz in it since it was formed.

12:19:56 fluffypony: ;;rate assbot 1 the A in assbot stands for AMAZING

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12:20:00 BigBitz: lol

12:20:17 davout: have you guys been following the ripple circus?

12:20:22 mircea_popescu: no ?

12:20:25 BigBitz: Jed, lol.

12:20:29 davout: the current drama is quite lulzy

12:20:32 mircea_popescu: is the ripple circus rippling here ?

12:20:39 fluffypony: major dumping of XRP

12:20:42 fluffypony: 9 billion or so

12:20:44 BigBitz: It's lolerific.

12:20:48 mircea_popescu: may we please have a blow by blow of how the blow blows, mr frenchfry!

12:20:51 davout: mc caleb is dumping, jesse powell is resigning and pointing fingers

12:20:56 BigBitz: he claims he will dump 9billion but still don't see is anything.

12:20:57 mircea_popescu: aaaaahahahaha

12:21:00 fluffypony: cue lawyers letters to cease and desist saying anything about anyone or anything

12:21:20 mircea_popescu: AS IF this wasn't fucking predictable as farts at a bean soup convention

12:21:20 fluffypony: XRP value plummets to like 40% of what it was courtesy of the announcement

12:22:03 mircea_popescu: ok so that problem is finally resolved then, thankfully.

12:22:11 davout: "farts at a bean soup convention" <<< hahaha

12:22:26 chetty: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/26/epa-give-grants-fight-cooking-stove-pollution/

12:22:27 assbot: EPA to give grants to fight cooking stove pollution - Washington Times

12:22:39 mircea_popescu: well. "resolved" in the sense doge coin is resolved, buncha derps will be "investing" in it still because hey, they "love to invest when everyone panics" or how did that skinnkavaj line go.

12:23:15 mircea_popescu: chetty, if people only ate govt provided caserolles, how much better it'd be!

12:23:26 fluffypony: Dogecoin down to ~72 satoshis

12:23:34 mircea_popescu: it's overpriced.

12:23:38 fluffypony: now it's freeeeeeee, freeeeee falling

12:24:01 fluffypony: btw mircea_popescu did you read about the OpenRigs customer that is apparently a secret agent or have you not got to that part in the logs yet?

12:24:33 mircea_popescu: im stil lon 23rd, checking out moiety's cookies and wondering who the fuck this xjpg guy is.

12:24:42 chetty: mircea_popescu, I am sure we will soon be at the meal in a pill stage, chewing is probably bad for you

12:24:50 mircea_popescu: btw, wouldn't you be affraid of a woman that keeps making supercute dough things it then BITES THE HEADS OFF ?

12:24:55 mircea_popescu: arsenic and old lace like.

12:25:21 mircea_popescu: chetty, no cause free dentist health care. if you like your teeth you can keep your teeth,

12:25:32 mircea_popescu: but if you didn't have them you wouldn't eat steak which is bad for the environment,

12:25:34 mircea_popescu: so you know.

12:26:12 mircea_popescu: obtw, speaking of steak. i had some fucking INCREDIBLE steaks these past two days. i am fucking humbled, you can not begin to imagine the steaks in this fucking town. omfg.

12:26:23 chetty: no teeth, no biting the heads off :P

12:26:31 pankkake: free healthcare is more about free antidepressants and homeopathy, cheaper and keeps voters happy

12:26:32 mircea_popescu: chetty, btw, take you out for a steak ? we're meeting lospantalones at noonish

12:27:04 mircea_popescu: i gotta show you this place, it is insanity.

12:27:18 mircea_popescu: (and they make a point of writing o nthe door they take dollars at 11.5

12:27:37 mircea_popescu: i wanted to drop 200 bucks o nthem, but apparently it's only for what you eat lol)

12:28:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.48497323 = 0.9699 BTC [+] {2}

12:28:58 fluffypony: oh sweet - mircea_popescu tell him I say hi

12:29:00 mircea_popescu: (for the interested public :argentina has a bit of an inflation problem, officially peso is 8.58 to the dollar, most anyone will take 9, generally you get about 11 from specialised exchangers. which are of course illegal, so there's five billion of them screaming in the streets - something the argentines don't do for anything else)

12:29:09 mircea_popescu: fluffypony, o you two know each other ?

12:29:14 fluffypony: only through here

12:29:28 mircea_popescu: ah k

12:30:55 BigBitz: you are in Argentina, mircea_popescu?

12:30:59 mircea_popescu: BigBitz, yep

12:31:06 BigBitz: nice... great food out there.

12:31:15 mircea_popescu: definitely.

12:33:15 mircea_popescu: nubbins`:

12:33:15 mircea_popescu: i came across a test scrap today and realized that i spelled the word "redeem" wrong on every single one <<< aaa-hahahaha. YOU NEED AN EDITOR!!1

12:34:39 BingoBoingo: LibXfont is fucking up everybody it seems http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140526075700

12:34:39 assbot: 5.5 Errata #006: X Font Service Protocol Erratum

12:34:41 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

12:34:42 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 579.5, Best ask: 582.48, Bid-ask spread: 2.98000, Last trade: 582.5, 24 hour volume: 12566.90246127, 24 hour low: 562.18, 24 hour high: 593.48, 24 hour vwap: 578.001570568

12:34:48 pankkake: I can't spell widthtdtrdraw

12:35:07 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, fonts. always the worst thing in any env.

12:36:40 mircea_popescu: lol accidentally weaponized comic sans dept. ok, gotta love that

12:36:53 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm not sure if they are the worst... Databases suck pretty bad.

12:37:22 mircea_popescu: yes but there you expect it.

12:37:27 mircea_popescu: fucking fonts yo uknow ?

12:37:29 chetty: BingoBoingo, well its beats 3x5 cards

12:37:54 pankkake: unfortunately serving custom web fonts is now all the rage

12:38:03 pankkake: they're even used in replacement of icons

12:38:18 pankkake: so disabling it makes some websites very ugly

12:38:34 mircea_popescu: moiety: I have been on 0 business trips. I used to work in a hospital lol << start saving for argentina next year ? :D

12:38:38 BingoBoingo: chetty: What's wrong with notecards. When I finally severed my last ties to Windows (Endnote X5), I simply migrated the citations database to cards.

12:38:51 mircea_popescu: pankkake, some websites i never use.

12:39:22 pankkake: github does :/ not that I really use it but it's ugly without

12:39:42 chetty: BingoBoingo, nothing wrong with cards, I used em for a very long time, still do for some stuff

12:40:25 mircea_popescu: assbot: Pigeon-feeders in Vienna to be fined 36 as part of city's crackdown on bird population << holy shit they're doing it right. fucking winged rats.

12:41:17 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: Vacathon! << that's when you go on a cow tipping spree all over the world.

12:41:22 fluffypony: heh

12:41:44 BingoBoingo: Squab can be delicious, but I dunno if I could make the jump to eating dirty urban pigeons

12:42:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.0009174 = 2.5229 BTC [-]

12:42:44 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: why don't they call it a PoCathon << ahaha you're one step off getting your own nbc show. "the bowl is round, the mug is round, why not call it roundtine"

12:42:54 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, exactly.

12:42:58 fluffypony: heh

12:44:29 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For all I know the urban pigeons are eating used heroin needles, junkies hepatitis diarrhea, and random industrial and medical waste

12:44:40 mircea_popescu: what do you mean "for all we know

12:44:44 mircea_popescu: that's exactly it.

12:45:37 BingoBoingo: I qualify it that way, because I prefer not to document the exact objectionable habits of sky rats.

12:46:48 pankkake: shitting on passerbys?

12:47:49 chetty: pigeons in Turkey do that a lot

12:48:21 BingoBoingo: chetty: How does turkey support pigeons with all of those cats?

12:48:42 mircea_popescu: actually i think it's mostly seagulls in turkey

12:49:51 chetty: I have pics, somewhere - Turkey/me/leather jacket/pideon poop

12:50:00 BingoBoingo: A lot of the seasonal gulls are starting to find their way here up the Mississippi.

12:50:37 mircea_popescu: o yeah one did get her, i reclal this

12:52:35 mircea_popescu: punkman: seems strange << few people actually grok opsec. this is probably because most adults were once children, and most children are forced to renounce their hardline attitudes, such as "won't eat any peas ever no matter what"

12:53:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27750 @ 0.00091442 = 25.3752 BTC [-] {3}

12:53:54 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: like the PoW is the defining factor << the pow is a defining factor, what you on about ?

12:54:08 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm saying it isn't

12:54:17 mircea_popescu: on the basis of what.

12:54:32 fluffypony: on the basis of the PoW being the least interesting part about it

12:54:57 mircea_popescu: o you meant for that specific shitcoin in partiuclar, the pow braindamage isn' teven the one braindamage you'd start thre discussion with ?

12:55:26 fluffypony: yes - talking about Monero in particular

12:55:42 mircea_popescu: i c. thought you meant in the general.

12:56:12 mircea_popescu: i suppose 80% of online misunderstanding flows from this particular/general mismatch, tbh. not from the supposed coldness of the medium.

12:56:35 fluffypony: yep

12:57:54 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoVxlXAIYAACTe6.jpg

13:00:57 mircea_popescu: "f you're Indian and Muslim you're screwed . UKIP will be in power here, they gonna send you India, but Nazi Modi is in power there."

13:01:04 mircea_popescu: sounds pretty bad

13:01:10 BingoBoingo: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/gqem5a4hvhwfhsycxaps.jpg

13:01:54 fluffypony: lol

13:02:02 fluffypony: truer words were ne'er writ

13:03:09 BingoBoingo: Well, at least Idi Amin isn't still removing all of the asians from "Scotland"

13:03:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-]

13:03:47 mircea_popescu: lol so ukip won the eu electuons ?

13:04:17 BingoBoingo: No idea.

13:05:02 mircea_popescu: seems so.

13:05:44 mircea_popescu: tiny voter turnout.

13:06:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 500 @ 0.0007812 = 0.3906 BTC [+]

13:08:53 mircea_popescu: Naureen Nayyar☀ ‏@norabean · now #omg #bitcoin feel free to donate to me :P “@BTC_PRICE: bitstamp: $586

13:08:53 mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu ‏@Mircea_Popescu · now @norabean @BTC_PRICE Start by sucking my cock, NOT by asking for money. Shesh.

13:09:07 mircea_popescu: these people, seriously. "o i am great and wonderful give me stuff". what in the living fuck.

13:10:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 36 @ 0.00536087 = 0.193 BTC [-] {7}

13:12:41 mircea_popescu: pankkake:I was wondering about blogs of non-asseters actually << if you do that ima stop reading it altogether.

13:13:03 mircea_popescu: people can suggest blogs through adding them to their own feeds or w/e they do when they want to read blogs.

13:13:16 mircea_popescu: but generally, if people want to be part of the future, they will HAVE TO come here, make friends, become one of us.

13:13:55 mircea_popescu: this part is not negotiable, i don't give a shit how special anyone thinks anyone is. each and every last one sec comissioner, president or prime minister, everyone must, no matter what, getr in wot and so on.

13:14:02 mircea_popescu: either the shah of brunei does or he is not in.

13:16:03 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/Y518dxjJ << bwahahaha epic.

13:16:03 assbot: Nasty Minutes - Pastebin.com

13:18:53 mircea_popescu: |OgNasty: Any newly generated coins donated to nastyfans we can consider as NASTY MINING. I could identify these and maybe we vote to set policy that NASTY MINING always gets at least 25% of mined coins?"

13:19:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00091244 = 15.6027 BTC [-] {2}

13:23:59 mircea_popescu: pfoah so random comment on fraudsters brought to fore an article that's like... exceptional. http://fraudsters.com/2012/de-ce-s-nesuferiti-tehnicienii/ i gotta have this translated. any romanian speakers (preferably not native) looking for a job ?

13:24:01 assbot: De ce-s nesuferiti tehnicienii ? pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

13:26:47 mircea_popescu: 12:49:34

13:26:47 mircea_popescu: assbot:

13:26:47 mircea_popescu: 37.6 BTC reward for information that leads to the arrest of the hacker that is trying to hack all my stuff at the moment. details to come! << lol so all the btc roger ver still has left come to 75.2 ?

13:27:04 mircea_popescu: or is he giving the informant a 50%+.1 sort of deal ?

13:27:24 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Apparently it is the amount the extortionist was seeking

13:27:42 mircea_popescu: oic

13:29:23 mircea_popescu: jurov: asciilifeform: and when will the nonsatanic implementation ship? << for srs!

13:30:34 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: davout i dont know, why you keep making trouble and asking us to solve it?! <<< werd!

13:30:50 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, jurov: presently juggling CAD and... getting sewer service to my building again. (beautiful story. water contractor destroyed drain pipe on entire street, claims to have fixed it. fountains of shit from the bath! still!)

13:31:09 mircea_popescu: omfg

13:31:18 mircea_popescu: and you live there ?

13:31:21 asciilifeform: soviet states of a.

13:31:29 mircea_popescu: dude just.... why

13:31:55 mircea_popescu: did i ever tell you the story of my clogged toilet in costa rica btw ?

13:32:11 fluffypony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnzk3oViSCI

13:32:11 assbot: Petaminx Tutorial - Full - YouTube

13:32:13 fluffypony: 8 hours of tutorial

13:32:26 mircea_popescu: fluffypony, how many "uuuuuhhhh" seconds ?

13:32:42 fluffypony: I can't get through more than 2 minutes, I don't have 8 hours to waste

13:32:42 fluffypony: lol

13:33:07 mircea_popescu: someone should make a youtube app whereby the person inserts the metallic dongle up their butt

13:33:11 mircea_popescu: and it shocks them

13:33:15 fluffypony: lol

13:33:23 mircea_popescu: can only stream if dongle in place.

13:33:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do tell

13:34:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 96 @ 0.03877812 = 3.7227 BTC [+] {3}

13:34:33 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so one morning i go to bathroom, i flush when done, it won't drain. i call administratora, she calls her.... well not exactly husband.

13:34:48 mircea_popescu: the clearly "had been in prison" tough guy that owned the building.

13:35:00 mircea_popescu: he tries some basic maneuvers of a slightly more elevated hardcoreness

13:35:11 mircea_popescu: pulls out phone starts talking lively into it

13:35:19 mircea_popescu: two dudes in overalls show up half hour later

13:35:33 mircea_popescu: they got some metal wire tools and so forth. they go ait it

13:35:48 mircea_popescu: after a coupla hours the entire bathroom is taken apart, everyone's talking lively in phones

13:36:08 mircea_popescu: a special truck arives, there\'s like nine men in my house, all fighting with the bathroom

13:36:14 mircea_popescu: eventually THERE IS BLOOD EVERYWHERE

13:36:27 mircea_popescu: turns out, an aligator was trying to traverse the sewage got himself stuck.

13:36:30 mircea_popescu: they... pulled it out.

13:36:39 mircea_popescu: by parts.

13:36:59 asciilifeform: lol!

13:37:05 mircea_popescu: by evening my flushing was fine again. and yet somehow it's the centroamericans that have the reputation for laziness and inefficiency

13:37:19 mircea_popescu: i couldn't guess why. i was fucking impressed, i mean of all the problems one could be ready to solve...

13:37:34 chetty: and MP is not exaggerating one bit

13:37:49 mircea_popescu: ^ she was there for the exercise.

13:39:22 asciilifeform: if only we had an alligator here. i could extract it, own the gear.

13:40:31 mircea_popescu: well in cr they never destroyed the pipes, what can ido

13:40:52 asciilifeform: more hilariously, when first discovered the problem, tried to decamp to a hotel. 9 hotels, all booked.

13:41:11 asciilifeform: turns out, it's that day of the year when thousands of motorcyclists converge on the city

13:41:16 mircea_popescu: o.O

13:41:39 asciilifeform: they parade around with dour 'remember the vietnam war!' banners

13:41:55 mircea_popescu: and can afford hotel stays ?!

13:42:00 mircea_popescu: da fuck is with that place.

13:42:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, suggestion : move to istanbul for the week. free airfare if hyou got the miles, like 100 a night for downtown hotel

13:42:52 asciilifeform: they drive $30k+ machines.

13:43:09 asciilifeform: usa is a very peculiar animal

13:43:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.00523 = 0.2615 BTC [-]

13:43:46 asciilifeform: ended up driving self and pet over to my consulting shop, where the toilets never fail.

13:43:47 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: there honestly aren't enough hours in a day to document "all the scams" << he may well have a pooint.

13:44:02 asciilifeform: (an industrial district)

13:44:03 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so now you finally get to sleep with your work ?

13:44:42 asciilifeform: went to bed around 4 in the morning. now seems like the story repeats.

13:45:46 mircea_popescu: pankkake:

13:45:46 mircea_popescu: benkay: I was thinking of starting a general shorting fund - sell shares that mimic shares in every way (pay same divs, buyback at vwap after X months). sell the shares at a discount to make them more appealing than real shares << mpex did this early on, but it was a political move to crush the idiots that thought they can make a glbse club. i doubt it'll be financially productive, you'll either fake volume a la btct

13:45:47 mircea_popescu: hl et all or else do half a bitcoin's trade out of 500 idjits.

13:47:22 mircea_popescu: benkay:HeySteve: nonsense. << it's not nonsense in any way. naked shorts are the instrument of evil. women should be always naked, shorts always covered. the us is doing it exaclty backwards.

13:50:04 mircea_popescu: benkay: afaik there's no way to evaluate the float on mpex. you just gotta trust mircea_popescu. << no, this is why the dividend payments work the way they do. mpex will a) not let you pay fewer shares than there are and b) issue you a signed receipt which includes that number.

13:50:20 mircea_popescu: so you get mpex-audited float every time yoyu pay a dividend.

13:54:45 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6YtVnl-AQE

13:54:46 assbot: dig - YouTube

13:54:52 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: password is used in two places unfortunately two very important places << that was a pretty shitty password.

13:55:07 mircea_popescu: pls to read up on dicelists.

13:55:15 asciilifeform: (pool from destroyed pipe visible on bottom of trench)

13:55:53 asciilifeform: they also have this weird custom, where a trench of an active pipe project is filled in with asphalt every time, even if work is not done - because driving is sacred. must be drivable over.

13:56:10 mircea_popescu: artifexd: I was thinking about Ubuntu but apparently they suck for reasons that are unclear to me. <<< dependency hell and a bad case of code rot.

13:56:13 asciilifeform: the result is pounded flat using a gigantic machine that sends shock waves everywhere

13:56:15 mircea_popescu: but w/e, you can probably use it.

13:56:24 asciilifeform: windows rattle, anything not bolted down shakes loose, etc.

13:57:12 asciilifeform: as for the paraders - from the lack of habitable building, went to see the fscking parade. and this is what it looked like:

13:57:14 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h97SPKc2nY

13:57:14 assbot: parade - YouTube

13:57:15 mircea_popescu: looks pretty romanian asciilifeform

13:59:23 artifexd: mircea_popescu: I decided on arch linux although I'm still evaluating desktop environments/window managers.

13:59:47 artifexd: I plan on moving all my server ops to coreos so the centos thing won't be an issue.

14:00:10 mircea_popescu: gotta try around a little. as is typical of open source, diff things work for diff jobs.

14:00:27 mircea_popescu: i wouldn't run a server on ubuntu, but if making a system for an ex windows person prolly still best choiuce,

14:01:40 mircea_popescu: benkay: the people with the money to implement dumb crypto things are never going to select professional services people for execution who say things like "what you are trying to build is not possible to build". << pretty much exactly.

14:01:46 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the soviet tale didn't end there. i come back, trench is filled, sewer - same state. call bureaucrats, they promise to test. wake up, there's a note, claiming that 'tested, works, if still having problem, your problem.' i pick up phone, turns out the fellow testing had no idea there was pipe work at all. it was done by contractors, see, and the city 'had no idea.'

14:01:51 mircea_popescu: which is why the rape of the people with fiat by bitcoin is so fucking essential.

14:02:13 mircea_popescu: capital doesn't belong with the idiots currently holding it. they don't know what to do with it, other than pay people to falsely claim they do know what to do with i.t

14:02:51 mircea_popescu: lol i c. so what did htey test, the secretaries' lower piping ?

14:03:09 chetty: prolly to see if the trench was filled

14:03:11 asciilifeform: most likely, nothing. just read a flow sensor somewhere.

14:04:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so are you sueing your landlord ?

14:06:44 mircea_popescu: princessnell: not exactly keep living, but maximize probability of the highest possible degree of genetic transmission. but you get my drift. << iget your drift, i just don't perceive any substance to it. can you prove your purpose is more to convey your own genetic material than to convey the genetic material of the e coli you're very comfortably keeping at a pleasant temperature deep inside, and strive to keep well

14:06:44 mircea_popescu: fed and so forth ?

14:08:19 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: i would've thought he was the exact opposite << this, incidentally, is how you know you've buddha'd. various people reading your stuff come to exactly opposite conclusions on fundamental topics such as "what is the purpose of meaning"

14:08:38 mircea_popescu: ima go out and celebrate this great achievement.

14:12:07 mircea_popescu: and you two as well as anyone interested is invited to a full debate of this matter, to take place statring 8pm today, my time. which is roughly in nine hours. then maybe we can get to the bottom of it

14:12:19 mircea_popescu: and if not it, a nice round bottom anyway.

14:12:51 fluffypony: ah at 1am I am definitely going to be drunkish or asleep

14:13:01 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: landlord lives in CA. he's nothing to do with this crap.

14:13:31 mircea_popescu: fluffypony, apparently diogenes kyon was perpetualloy both, is still remembered.

14:13:40 asciilifeform: (fellow used to live in the house, unable to sell, ended up renting it out, quite possibly at a loss)

14:13:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you are renting from him correct ?

14:13:48 mircea_popescu: that means he has everything to do with it.

14:13:52 mircea_popescu: ah

14:14:16 asciilifeform: might sue the city, though, if this carries on.

14:14:21 mircea_popescu: one wonders why unable to sell

14:14:33 mircea_popescu: anyway, the trick with suing is to make up your mind quick and let the papers fly the next day.

14:14:47 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: almost certainly same reason as the various folks i know in this position - term of art, i think, is 'underwater'

14:15:36 mircea_popescu: "It has just been announced now that UTA, the union of bus drivers, will convoke a full strike for ALL buses(colectivos y micros , which means city and long distance buses) for this Wednesday, 28 May starting at 0000 in ALL OF ARGENTINA!."

14:15:39 chetty: your tax money, hard at work

14:15:48 mircea_popescu: rich bitcoiners using cabs not affected. HOPEFULLY

14:16:30 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-05-2014#687492 << bwahahah

14:16:30 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

14:16:36 asciilifeform: speaking of vehicles, there were... moto-tricycles in the parade. wtf is the point ?!

14:16:42 asciilifeform: of such a machine

14:16:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ask an engineer, what do i know :D

14:17:10 asciilifeform: as i understand, all the down-sides of a normal auto and motorcycle in one package.

14:17:29 asciilifeform: takes up a full lane, yet still the same crunchy death if you wreck it

14:18:02 asciilifeform: resembles a tractor more than anything else

14:18:31 mircea_popescu: i wouldn't own or drive one

14:18:48 mircea_popescu: but perhaps... it's cheaper than a car and doesn't need your foot on the ground like a bike ?

14:18:51 mircea_popescu: so "win-win"

14:19:19 asciilifeform: looked it up, they seem to cost about the same as a nice toyota

14:19:35 asciilifeform: so, my suspicion, folks who want the 'l33t' of motorbike, but without the study.

14:19:54 mircea_popescu: o look at that, amazon being a little bitch.

14:20:06 mircea_popescu: gravy train coming to an end, in a decade nobody will even remember who bezos was.

14:20:50 mircea_popescu: ok and with that im caught up with the 23rd. omfg you people talk A LOT

14:21:22 mircea_popescu: anyway. hasta luego.

14:26:58 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mototricycles are notorious for rolling and crushing the driver/rider

14:28:00 jurov: ;;bc,stats

14:28:04 gribble: Current Blocks: 302731 | Current Difficulty: 1.0455720138484837E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 304415 | Next Difficulty In: 1684 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 7 hours, 57 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11225085364.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.35832

14:28:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 49 @ 0.0387799 = 1.9002 BTC [-]

14:29:32 pankkake: %diff

14:29:34 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 155992.46 in 337 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -65.74

14:29:58 pankkake: I wonder if I'll ever squeeze in a block

14:30:27 pankkake: or what I could get by selling those usb erupters

14:32:31 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems to me like the pill against this is to drive an ordinary auto, rather than a peculiar tractor where you still get ejected into oncoming traffic at the slightest bump...

14:33:47 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Right. The three wheeled cycle rollover problem is why you don't see new manufacter 3 wheeled atvs anymore.

14:35:52 punkman: the four-wheeled ATVs got rollover problems too

14:37:53 punkman: tourist idiots like to rent them around here, then they end up in a ditch with broken legs

14:39:46 BingoBoingo: punkman: Correct. As bad as the four wheeled problem is, three wheeled...

14:41:17 asciilifeform: example of machine:

14:41:18 asciilifeform: http://images01.olx-st.com/ui/4/03/27/1267281213_77009627_1-Pictures-of---2001-Custom-Built-Trike-Motorcycle.jpg

14:42:30 davout: asciilifeform: gross

14:43:20 pankkake: fact: more wheels is better

14:44:08 davout: http://www.motomove.fr/assets/images/canam/canam_Spyder%20RS.jpg

14:46:41 punkman: http://www.nerdwax.com/

14:46:41 assbot: nerdwax - the original glasses wax

14:49:15 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: nubbins` canada looks scarier and scarier. <<how so??

14:49:22 bitcoinpete: and g'morning

14:50:30 Mats_cd03: theres a product for everything

14:51:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.471 BTC [-]

14:55:00 punkman: https://www.theivdoctor.com/

14:57:01 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu:these people, seriously. "o i am great and wonderful give me stuff". what in the living fuck. << es el socialismo

14:59:44 bitcoinpete: http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/05/19/modern-forms-of-slavery-generate-150-billion-a-year-in-profits-for-exploiters/

14:59:44 assbot: Modern Forms of Slavery Generate $150 Billion a Year in Profits for Exploiters - Real Time Economics - WSJ

15:01:18 asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: 'modern forms of slavery' << if not for wsj, one could almost expect the piece to be about the u.s. economy at large

15:01:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC {2}

15:02:18 pankkake: but that wouldn't have been only 150B

15:02:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 56 @ 0.038 = 2.128 BTC {4}

15:02:35 pankkake: More than half — 55% — are women and girls.

15:02:47 pankkake: apparently barely over half is worth mentionning

15:03:05 bitcoinpete: pankkake: egalité!

15:03:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 10 @ 0.038 = 0.38 BTC

15:03:45 bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: eh not sure the us system is quite that dark a shade of gray

15:04:20 bitcoinpete: i mean, you live there and i live in the hottest economy on the continent, so feel free to correct me

15:05:23 bitcoinpete: but if it's relative, which it is, then the usa sucks a boatload but is still freer than plenty o' places

15:05:55 asciilifeform: bitcoinpete: all depends on whether one demands that somebody wears chains, receives whippings, to be considered slave.

15:06:17 bitcoinpete: the welfare state provideth so that the womenz and childrenz don't have to wear visible chainz

15:06:24 bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: surely not

15:06:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.470005 = 0.94 BTC [-]

15:06:41 pankkake: !up aabtc

15:06:46 bitcoinpete: slavery can be all sorts of invisible

15:07:06 aabtc: pankkake: cheers

15:07:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.0192 = 0.384 BTC [+] {2}

15:07:47 pankkake: I feel like the "working poor" is getting more common thanks to the taxfare state

15:08:10 bitcoinpete: the modern definition of freedom, that of economic security and material well being, is a very specific form of slavery

15:08:17 pankkake: you can hardly afford to save, and most of your earnings go to crappy government programs supposed to help you

15:08:27 bitcoinpete: pankkake: sure, as the state will provide

15:08:29 pankkake: it's a trap

15:08:40 bitcoinpete: don't give to the homeless directly. there's gov programs to help them

15:09:10 bitcoinpete: pankkake: precisement

15:09:12 pankkake: sadly it's mostly a belief those things exist

15:09:45 bitcoinpete: sorry, what things? programs?

15:10:01 pankkake: yes. it's not going back to the people who need it

15:10:12 pankkake: but the taxpayer/voter thinks it does

15:10:22 davout: in france, i feel

15:10:29 davout: the easiest is to give time

15:12:51 bitcoinpete: ya, time isn't in the bezzle. yet

15:14:29 pankkake: bitcoinpete: …yet https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_civique

15:14:29 assbot: Service civique Wikipdia

15:17:11 bitcoinpete: "L'objectif du service civique, et plus largement des volontariats, est de permettre à des jeunes (en particulier mais pas seulement) de s'investir à plein temps dans un projet d’intérêt général" << omfgbbq better have "permission"

15:18:26 pankkake: this was hinted a few times as a replacement of conscription

15:19:19 pankkake: and conscription is undoubtely slavery

15:19:37 bitcoinpete: no debate there

15:20:26 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: well in cr they never destroyed the pipes, what can ido << and those pipes are quite the delicate roses. no flushing tp iirc

15:21:49 pankkake: I buy TP where the cardboard thing can be flushed too, it changed my life

15:21:57 artifexd: lol

15:21:58 pankkake: and once again george was wrong, toilet paper changes

15:23:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 24 @ 0.038 = 0.912 BTC

15:24:04 bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/470948155450613760

15:24:05 assbot: In France, you need permission to volunteer. And slavery doesn't exist in "modern society?" https://t.co/mii2npha5L

15:24:36 pankkake: that's a bit of an exaggeration

15:24:45 bitcoinpete: pankkake: never heard of this sorcerous tp roll you speak of

15:24:53 bitcoinpete: well… ya

15:25:08 bitcoinpete: lol there in lies the fun

15:25:28 pankkake: it's made by Lotus

15:26:01 pankkake: http://www.aquatube.eu/

15:26:01 assbot: Aqua Tube | Flush&Go

15:27:11 bitcoinpete: it even has an app!

15:28:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 150 @ 0.038 = 5.7 BTC

15:29:57 jurov: https://angel.co/dunne-capital

15:30:00 assbot: Dunne Capital | AngelList

15:30:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0191999 = 0.1152 BTC [-]

15:30:14 jurov: UKs first exchange with access to the banking system... but..we're actually doing casino first?

15:30:18 jurov: huh hah

15:31:18 fluffypony: jurov it gets better - didn't you see the forum post with their PHP exchange alpha / demo / whatever leaking info?

15:32:49 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583262.msg6895054#msg6895054

15:32:49 assbot: [CounterParty/Colored Coins] IPO announcement. Mimex - UK bitcoin exchange

15:33:22 jurov: i came to satan worship so far

15:33:42 fluffypony: lol

15:35:19 jurov: "Available here https://bitcoinbourse.eu/ ticker DUN" oooohh how did i miss this?

15:35:20 assbot: BitcoinBourse.eu - decentralised market place to buy and sell Bitcoin person to person! Welcome to the future of Bitcoin trading!

15:35:49 pankkake: apparently even bitcoin bourse is more conventient than colored coins

15:36:41 fluffypony: no no

15:36:45 fluffypony: they did coloured coins too

15:36:50 fluffypony: or mastercoin or something

15:36:51 fluffypony: I lose track

15:36:53 fluffypony: it's a 3PO

15:37:09 jurov: on bbs there are 3000 shares offered at 0.008

15:37:23 jurov: and no other bids/asks ofc

15:38:16 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: and you two as well as anyone interested is invited to a full debate of this matter, to take place starting 8pm today << buddha, i'll be there. that is, here.

15:40:29 bitcoinpete: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/chart-christianity-middle-east_n_5378582.html?&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000055

15:40:29 assbot: How Christianity Is Disappearing In The Middle East In One Chart

15:43:17 jurov: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583262.msg6781115#msg6781115 fluffypony what you're up to?

15:43:17 assbot: [CounterParty/Colored Coins] IPO announcement. Mimex - UK bitcoin exchange

15:43:53 fluffypony: jurov: I favoured the lesser fool in that instance

15:44:01 fluffypony: btc-banker was being idiotic

15:47:19 decimation: asciilifeform: If you are in PG county, that's pretty much the most corrupt county in the most corrupt state of the US

15:48:19 decimation: although Baltimore city is probably worse

15:49:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00458201 = 0.197 BTC [-]

15:50:12 decimation: re: motor-trikes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogrwZv8N7TA

15:50:13 assbot: Putin's rockin' & rollin' on a Harley Trike - YouTube

15:50:37 decimation: at least Putin is able to put motorcycle thugs to useful work in Ukraine

15:51:49 decimation: apparently in the US they can only clog traffic in the capital city

15:53:43 decimation: True story: once I was walking along a street in Washington, DC during some dumbass WTO protest or something

15:55:01 decimation: I stopped to watch at Farragut Square park, which is full of bums. The bums all gathered on the street to watch the procession. First, came 50 or so so policemen riding on Harleys. Next, a sad mob of a few hundred youths protesting the "prision state"

15:55:22 decimation: several of them climing over various obstacles, attempting to scale traffic lights, overturn trash cans, etc..

15:55:58 decimation: After the last of the mob wondered past, one of the nearby bums shook his head and mumbled "only in America" and shuffled back to his campsite

15:57:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00457308 = 0.4116 BTC [-]

16:00:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.14396835 BTC to 8`915 shares, 24049 satoshi per share

16:04:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03070001 = 0.1228 BTC [-]

16:04:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.04954094 = 0.1982 BTC [-]

16:05:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0381101 = 0.1906 BTC [-]

16:05:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC

16:05:44 benkay: <mircea_popescu> obtw, speaking of steak. i had some fucking INCREDIBLE steaks these past two days. i am fucking humbled, you can not begin to imagine the steaks in this fucking town. omfg. << told you.

16:06:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC

16:06:56 benkay: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: I'm not sure if they are the worst... Databases suck pretty bad. // let me tell you about this magical closed source database i own...

16:07:14 benkay: hey wait, weren't the legendary symbolics environments of yore closed source as well?

16:07:22 asciilifeform: benkay: nope.

16:07:47 asciilifeform: benkay: it was a sort of product now mostly extinct - pay, get complete source (naturally for in-house use only)

16:08:14 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what town?

16:08:15 benkay: but how did they protect against piracy?

16:08:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 40 @ 0.03810377 = 1.5242 BTC [-] {4}

16:08:39 benkay: http://is.gd/afolif

16:08:46 asciilifeform: benkay: what kind of piracy, when 90+% of it would only run on that particular arch.

16:09:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 35 @ 0.038 = 1.33 BTC

16:09:50 benkay: oh for an arch that did s-exps in hardware

16:09:55 asciilifeform: benkay: as for the remainder: since this type of distribution was customary, any unsanctioned cribbing of code would become apparent when you bought the suspected product and examined its sources.

16:10:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 11 @ 0.038 = 0.418 BTC {2}

16:11:15 benkay: HeySteve2: you're connected to channels before your hostmask gets applied fyi

16:11:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0975 = 0.4875 BTC [+]

16:18:37 benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay: afaik there's no way to evaluate the float on mpex. you just gotta trust mircea_popescu. << no, this is why the dividend payments work the way they do. mpex will a) not let you pay fewer shares than there are and b) issue you a signed receipt which includes that number. << contract also spells it out.

16:18:52 benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay:HeySteve: nonsense. << it's not nonsense in any way. naked shorts are the instrument of evil. women should be always naked, shorts always covered. the us is doing it exaclty backwards. << you'll note i came around eventually.

16:19:59 benkay: <mircea_popescu> so you get mpex-audited float every time yoyu pay a dividend. << wait but as in the case of mpif, a malicious broker could issue more shares and not pay to that float, as mpex doesn't enforce that divs be paid to the whole float which you say is a feature but my tiny brain still percieves as a bug

16:26:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 14 @ 0.038 = 0.532 BTC

16:28:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 6 @ 0.038 = 0.228 BTC

16:29:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]

16:31:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 540 @ 0.00222884 = 1.2036 BTC [-] {24}

16:32:30 benkay: now this: https://www.theivdoctor.com/make-an-appointment/view/Detox

16:32:51 benkay: ;;later tell BingoBoingo https://www.theivdoctor.com/make-an-appointment/view/Detox

16:32:51 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:33:16 benkay: http://chart.googleapis.com/chart?chxr=0,0,37889&chm=h,000000,0,0.31,1&chxt=y&chbh=a&chs=450x220&cht=bvs&chco=4D89F9&chds=0,37889&chd=t:10372,9279,14650,15462,10146,9344,9662,12580,13607,17737,12812,16740,17611,29146,15490,18496,18373,20967,15589,20740,10490,9119,6705,7736,4046,6323,6933,8297,6362,9305,9973,11029,10468,6838,3301,1019,3183,6510,6133,11544,14766,17248,15970,14836,18496,10667,9139,14869,16325,14353,15007,9315,13960,13258,12440,9318,

16:34:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 120 @ 0.038 = 4.56 BTC

16:39:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0381001 = 0.381 BTC [-]

16:47:06 jurov: benkay how issue? you mean, outside mpex?

16:52:41 benkay: no, on mpex.

16:53:13 benkay: didn't mpif have a float of n at t=0 and then shortly thereafter had a float of n + m?

16:54:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00084337 = 9.9518 BTC [-]

16:54:57 jurov: well, and?

16:56:32 jurov: mp wrote "mpex will not let you pay fewer shares than there are"

16:57:37 jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26ge5v/im_finally_out_of_the_red/chr0qpe lol reddit is all over it

16:57:38 assbot: dooglus comments on I'm finally out of the red

16:58:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11266 @ 0.00084146 = 9.4799 BTC [-]

16:59:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.46079225 = 1.8432 BTC [-] {4}

17:02:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.10598491 = 0.5299 BTC [-] {3}

17:04:23 benkay: oh my mistake

17:06:47 thestringpuller: jurov: wow reddit is angry at dooglus "Dooglus, as the owner of Just Dice, you should not have said anything to them whatsoever, due to conflict of interest. You may have cost yourself a lot of respect from the community."

17:07:51 kakobrekla: psi laju, karavani prolaze

17:07:57 fluffypony: dooglus: for what it's worth, I think they're utterly moronic, they're reacting as if they didn't read the second part of your comment

17:09:02 thestringpuller: damn they started a whole new thread? http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26j2fn/distraught_redditor_debates_whether_to_gamble/

17:09:04 assbot: Distraught Redditor debates whether to gamble their life savings. Owner of Just-Dice shows up and chimes in: "If you think a 49.5% chance of having 100 BTC is better than a 100% chance of having 50 BTC, then betting it all on a double-or-nothing at Just-Dice is the way to go." Decides to bet; loses. : Bitcoin

17:09:42 punkman: "First ever penis tattoo for BTC!" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=625220.0

17:09:43 assbot: Klyemax Studios Official (Cock) Tattoo

17:12:37 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust dooglus

17:12:37 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user dooglus: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=dooglus | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dooglus | Rated since: Thu Apr 5 06:34:26 2012

17:14:03 pankkake: I haven't seen any casino owner try to dissuade gamblers as much as dooglus

17:14:13 pankkake: eh "For me, the pain of losing is so much stronger than the joy of winning that I mostly don't play."

17:14:33 fluffypony: and then still get shat on for it

17:14:41 pankkake: but you gotta be upset at someone else than yourself

17:14:49 fluffypony: he should've promised "guaranteed rewards" like most of the IPOs

17:15:01 thestringpuller: ^- ugh...

17:15:35 thestringpuller: pankkake: dooglus is also not a criminal like most casino owners in Vegas...

17:16:09 pankkake: " You may have cost yourself a lot of respect from the community."

17:16:44 pankkake: walls of text ensue

17:16:59 fluffypony: the way I read his post was: "if you feel like pissing your money into the toilet, please use my toilet. Personally, I don't think pissing money into a toilet is a good idea. I don't piss money into the toilet much."

17:18:22 thestringpuller: It's funny how /r/bitcoin thinks "they are the community"

17:20:10 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> turns out, an aligator was trying to traverse the sewage got himself stuck. << woah!

17:27:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

17:34:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.00010504 = 0.3151 BTC [-] {3}

17:34:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1001 @ 0.00082661 = 0.8274 BTC [-]

17:35:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.0192 = 0.1152 BTC [+] {2}

17:36:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.03099927 = 0.62 BTC [+] {2}

17:36:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.0192 = 0.2688 BTC [+]

17:40:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3000 @ 0.000105 = 0.315 BTC [-]

17:41:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00082661 = 2.8931 BTC [-] {2}

17:43:19 punkman: the guy that lost 50btc on jd: <pippin> At least I have a reason to try at school now lol, any delusions of being rich just went out the window.

17:44:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0054 = 0.135 BTC [+] {2}

17:45:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00455405 = 0.1139 BTC [-]

17:45:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC

17:49:10 punkman: !up poutine

17:50:28 poutine: Hi I saw this tx on mainnet: https://blockchain.info/tx/2bb7e8720356f79a9005488a529ab12d6f516879b2357224204cb5f2b780fd02

17:50:28 assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 2bb7e8720356f79a9005488a529ab12d6f516879b2357224204cb5f2b780fd02

17:50:34 poutine: with a shout out to this channel

17:52:00 punkman: that a mastercoin thing?

17:52:13 poutine: nah it's a bitcoin nonstandard tx that someone put an ascii message in

17:52:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 1576 @ 0.00211023 = 3.3257 BTC [-] {9}

17:53:25 poutine: if you click "advanced" at the bottom, and then take the script output: echo "2153484f55544f555420544f2023424954434f494e2d415353455453202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020202020" |xxd -p -r

17:53:37 poutine: you get: "!SHOUTOUT TO #BITCOIN-ASSETS "

17:55:21 pankkake: lol indeed. how did you find that one?

17:55:21 punkman: nice

17:56:47 fluffypony: nice

17:56:47 fluffypony: such el8

17:57:32 punkman: poutine, what else have you seen in your travels

17:57:32 poutine: pankkake, I make custom txes, and was going through some strange transactions and saw it

17:58:00 poutine: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/57225697/0 <- I made this redeemable multi choice puzzle transaction w/ embedded message yesterday

17:58:01 assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 15c2b9bc3b93e0c0a037c5fa8402d0e34e13d3bb0ce7fca65888e5d24e597dcc

17:58:31 poutine: was seeing if there were any loose transactions on the blockchain I could claim with a little bit of brainpower

17:58:51 punkman: ;;gettrust poutine

17:58:52 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user punkman to user poutine: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=punkman&dest=poutine | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=poutine | Rated since: never

18:00:20 punkman: poutine, how do you answer the puzzle?

18:01:24 poutine: punkman, Well I redeemed that one, if you click the spent output: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/57230279 and then run the input script through xxd -p -r, you get

18:01:24 assbot: Bitcoin Transaction 95de640457b7bcfc4608d84f84542efc40cc7ee7761dd6c7102bc0b36f0d9d51

18:01:25 poutine: echo "6561746174757264796f75736869746d6f6e6b6579" |xxd -p -r

18:01:35 poutine: eataturdyoushitmonkey

18:01:46 poutine: There were 3 valid scripts that would have redeemed that tx

18:04:19 poutine: http://webbtc.com/scripts/unknown <- is a good place for finding weird transactions, and where I found the one someone from here made

18:04:19 assbot: Bitcoin BlockBrowser - unknown Scripts

18:11:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0381981 = 0.2292 BTC [-]

18:13:51 thestringpuller: poutine: how would one write a custom transaction?

18:14:12 punkman: thestringpuller: well now you can ask poutine to write it :P

18:14:50 thestringpuller: who needs email when you have the blockchain...

18:14:55 mircea_popescu: oh the blinkenlichtens

18:15:15 mircea_popescu: <bitcoinpete> mircea_popescu: nubbins` canada looks scarier and scarier. <<how so?? << icebergs and shit

18:15:23 punkman: mircea_popescu: maybe you should put some cryptograms in the blockchain

18:15:34 poutine: thestringpuller, I use bitcoinjs-lib

18:15:53 poutine: I followed the instructions for a regular transaction, but instead of the normal pay to pubkey/scripthash, I just put in my own script

18:16:47 mircea_popescu: ;;rated lospantalones

18:16:48 gribble: You have not yet rated user lospantalones

18:19:58 mircea_popescu: punkman, lol maybe later.

18:20:12 mircea_popescu: ;;rate lospantalones 1 bought me lunch.

18:20:12 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

18:20:19 mircea_popescu: hm.

18:21:18 fluffypony: los_pantalones, mircea_popescu

18:21:40 mircea_popescu: ;;rate los_pantalones 1 bought me lunch.

18:21:41 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user los_pantalones has been recorded.

18:21:46 mircea_popescu: o hey tyvm!

18:21:56 fluffypony: np

18:23:03 mircea_popescu: pankkake: and conscription is undoubtely slavery << all education is slavery.

18:23:52 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete that's in like, palenque in mexico, arenal in cr etc. tourist traps with shitty pipes. otherwise not a concern.

18:24:40 mircea_popescu: jurov: UKs first exchange with access to the banking system... but..we're actually doing casino first? << is this that dunne guy that was here recently ?

18:27:32 mircea_popescu: benkay, yea i noted you came around :p

18:27:52 chetty: ;;rate los_pantalones 1 real person bought me lunch.

18:27:53 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user los_pantalones has been recorded.

18:27:58 mircea_popescu: i didn't get the mpif example.

18:28:08 jurov: mircea don't remember

18:28:23 mircea_popescu: ;;seen wdunne

18:28:23 gribble: I have not seen wdunne.

18:28:28 mircea_popescu: something like that it was iirc

18:28:59 mircea_popescu: benkay: didn't mpif have a float of n at t=0 and then shortly thereafter had a float of n + m? << 1mn, then as that sold out 2mn

18:30:04 punkman: ;;seen mrwdunne

18:30:04 gribble: mrwdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 3 days, 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <mrwdunne> US doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to human rights and terrorism. Their judgement was probably the correct one

18:30:14 mircea_popescu: aye

18:30:47 mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/0TRfa2l.png

18:30:59 mircea_popescu: omfg check out the complex excel sheeting for 5btc or w.e it is

18:32:02 mircea_popescu: lol poor dooglus is getting an earful on reddit

18:32:15 mircea_popescu: kinda funny how self important those fuckwits are jeez.

18:34:00 mircea_popescu: poutine, pretty cool tx lol

18:34:32 punkman: !up poutine

18:37:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 169 @ 0.0007812 = 0.132 BTC [+] {2}

18:37:11 poutine: It is possible to play a game on the blockchain where there's a limited amount of moves. Chess would be too complicated, checkers might not be

18:37:30 mircea_popescu: "viscous personal attacks" dub ?! quick, call the interwebs poleese.

18:37:43 thestringpuller: poutine: what about settlers of catan? ;)

18:37:49 mircea_popescu: mike_c was sort-of working on something ismilar.

18:37:55 mircea_popescu: ;;seen mike_c

18:37:56 gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <mike_c> more like "humans" freak out when they don't understand something. when people ask me about why the market moved I give them the time-tested answer: God.

18:39:26 chetty: MASSIVE Colorado mud slide is 4 miles long ,2 miles wide & 250 feet deep.....

18:39:51 thestringpuller: meanwhile on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/26hzgo/21_f_corrupted_my_26_m_boyfriend/

18:39:52 assbot: [21 F], corrupted my [26 M] boyfriend : relationships

18:40:02 davout: meanwhile, dotcoin is getting buttraepd

18:40:32 poutine: thestringpuller, Well you have a 201 opcode limit, 1000 stack size limit, and a 10000 byte tx limit, I need 8 opcodes per comparison, so as long as there's 24 possible moves or less it can be played on the blockchain

18:40:51 mircea_popescu: punkman: MP goes away, the logs dry up, for shame << i dunno dood, I've been working to catch up for three days. in between picking up hawt brazilian chicks in the street and shoveling steaks

18:40:54 poutine: I can make a tx where there's 24 potential scriptSigs that will redeem it

18:41:33 mircea_popescu: poutine, why not just embed a hash digest ?

18:43:09 poutine: mircea_popescu, Hmm I'm not sure I understand, the way I'd see it is if it were chess, all possible moves would be an acceptable redemption for the tx, like pawn to e4 would be a redemption, Qxe5, etc. That way the game could be followed just by following the blockchain for the tx

18:43:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 339 @ 0.00430964 = 1.461 BTC [-] {4}

18:43:42 mircea_popescu: ok now I don't know if I follow

18:43:59 poutine: Ok well I can do tic tac toe on the blockchain, let me write it up

18:44:17 poutine: (it's going to result in unspendable outputs because... tic tac toe though)

18:44:46 mircea_popescu: yeah i see. thing is... why'd you want to play it this way rather than the normal way ?

18:45:08 punkman: poutine, your puzzle redeeming transaction could be rewritten by a miner right?

18:45:14 poutine: yes punkman

18:45:21 poutine: mircea_popescu, Oh entirely for fun

18:45:40 poutine: also it would prevent double turns, forgeries, etc by virtue of the protocol

18:45:56 mircea_popescu: but it could be rewritten by any miner.

18:46:55 poutine: yes, a miner could cheat, but a miner would have a significant cost to cheat

18:47:07 poutine: we're talking probably thousands of dollars

18:48:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0309999 = 0.186 BTC [+]

18:48:27 poutine: tens of thousands eh

18:48:32 mircea_popescu: that aside, forgetries are still eminently possible

18:48:45 poutine: Ok I should not make the claim that an unsigned transaction cannot be forged

18:48:55 poutine: I should say it'd be cost prohibitive at this point

18:49:01 mircea_popescu: see the thing is, your system may actually SAVe the miners thousands of dollars.

18:49:13 mircea_popescu: because they load it in the mempool and chainmine for all its permutations

18:49:21 mircea_popescu: might actually give them a hash boost.

18:49:59 punkman: poutine, what's the cost? seems like you only have to come up with something that identifies rewritable transactions and broadcasts them with his own address

18:51:04 poutine: punkman, the cost is that you'd have to solo mine to forge the tx right now, or participate in a mining pool that would automate the forgery

18:51:54 poutine: Writing the forgery code is easy, being able to mine the block to test it out is not

18:52:48 jurov: no mrwdunne is the proslimbs invesor: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/now-is-time-tomorrow-is-glory-ipo-people.307662/#post-6198349

18:52:48 assbot: Now is Time, tomorrow IS glory = IPO people | Bitcointa.lk

18:52:55 punkman: you can just throw the rewritten transaction out there and hope someone mines it, no?

18:53:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: re: bitstamp: if the story is true, they've fucked their public goat. << the story is both true and not really new.

18:53:55 poutine: punkman, nah you'd need to know the secret to be able to do the move

18:54:00 mircea_popescu: they were lolled at for asking for miner gear purchase receipts from people who indicated the btc source os "mining" for months nao

18:54:19 poutine: also nobody really mines nonstandard txes on btc mainnet with one exception

18:54:28 punkman: poutine, but you share the secret when you try to redeem

18:54:36 mircea_popescu: that exception being "anyone who feels like it"

18:54:53 poutine: mircea_popescu, the one exception is eligius right now

18:55:05 kakobrekla: check out this schmuk https://bitcointa.lk/threads/review-of-the-current-state-of-bitcoin-securities-market.314520/

18:55:05 assbot: Review of the current state of Bitcoin securities market | Bitcointa.lk

18:55:25 kakobrekla: his wall of text http://blog.coinomat.com/bitcoin-stocks-here-to-stay-2/

18:55:26 assbot: Bitcoin stocks: here to stay | Coinomat.com blog

18:55:30 kakobrekla: and no mention of #b-a

18:55:31 mircea_popescu: pankkake, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-05-2014#687935 omg wtf

18:55:31 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

18:55:52 pankkake: my fault, should not happen again

18:56:14 mircea_popescu: o look kako on .lk. me hearts

18:56:16 pankkake: well no that case was jborkl's fault. he added tracking to the URLs

18:56:34 pankkake: but I strip them now

18:56:42 kakobrekla: coincidence.

18:56:56 poutine: punkman, Ok so if I was making the move e4, and my player secret was foo, and an acceptable redemption scriptSig is hash256('fooe4'). When I submit my redemption, you're saying someone else would see it in the mempool, and submit it to a different mempool with the redemption going to a different address?

18:57:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 141 @ 0.00235853 = 0.3326 BTC [-] {3}

18:57:52 poutine: The miner situation I think is obvious, a miner could definitely redirect the output with little effort, and nobody to punish him for it, but wouldn't the above situation simply be covered by the timestamping server, and currently by the fact there's only one mining pool that accepts these transactions, and they do not allow double spends in their memory pool?

18:58:07 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla, left him a comment, curious if he publishes it.

18:58:14 kakobrekla: gj

18:58:20 thestringpuller: poutine: re earlier: 24 possible moves total? or 24 possible moves within a single turn?

18:58:27 asciilifeform: meanwhile! end of sewer saga: city excavated street, disassembled pipe, found tree roots behind the property line - which had become clogged with backed up crud (for the 30 hours or so the city's pipe was broken.) now they will fight with landlord's insurance co.

18:58:29 poutine: 24 moves within a single turn thestringpuller

18:58:31 asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/gjPW0By

18:58:32 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

18:58:35 mircea_popescu: poutine, what timestamping server ?

18:58:40 pankkake: https://www.opsmate.com/titus/

18:58:41 assbot: titus - Totally Isolated TLS Unwrapping Server

18:58:58 mircea_popescu: and stop relying on incidentals. if there's any value to fucking you over, the nonstandard txs will be accepted by everyone.

18:59:25 poutine: disregard timestamping server comment

18:59:26 mircea_popescu: the fact that there's no one doing it now simply reflects the fact nobody is currently giving a shit. not something ytou can rely on as you change the incentive structure

18:59:39 thestringpuller: "Considering the points above I believe that Bitcoin stocks are here to stay. The key to success here would be the issuers screening and preemptive measures against fraudulent players. Serious and responsible project can be successful here, and most probably relatively unperturbed by regulators. Centralized exchanges should have a crucial role, since decentralized ones cannot probably achieve high level of protec

18:59:45 thestringpuller: lol

18:59:50 poutine: mircea_popescu, yeah I would agree with you

19:00:02 pankkake: I usually stop reading at "here to stay"

19:00:35 poutine: in any event, it is fun to play with custom transactions, I'm surprised there's only been 1661 of them according to webbtc.com

19:01:04 thestringpuller: reminds me of btcmsg project that got scrapped

19:01:19 mircea_popescu: CheckDavid: dignork: I find it hard to conceive of a business that can't think of expansion . << efficiency of capial deployment is the issue. read buffett\s letters to investors, he covers it in detail

19:01:39 mircea_popescu: poutine, afaik webbtc sees most but not exactly all

19:02:05 poutine: It'd be quite easy to dump data into btc. I'm sure it'd piss off a lot of people though (namely everyone with the blockchain), but you could embed wikileaks into the blockchain through redeemable transactions

19:02:07 kakobrekla: poutine what exactly defines a 'custom' tx?

19:02:18 poutine: kakobrekla, not pay to public key, pay to script hash

19:02:25 poutine: !tx.isStandard()

19:02:44 poutine: OP_RETURN <short amount of data> might be standard now

19:02:57 mircea_popescu: this is like 2012 srsly.

19:04:59 mircea_popescu: CheckDavid:

19:05:00 mircea_popescu: 6:11:48 PM CheckDavid But btc on their books are less valuable to shareholders due to the risk of.losing them and other factors.

19:05:21 mircea_popescu: this is not actually correct. btc on mpex books are more valuable than btc held by users, (and are traded as such)

19:05:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0975 = 1.2675 BTC [+]

19:05:37 mircea_popescu: on the grounds of everyone having managed to lost more wallets in the intervening two years than bitcoin

19:05:43 mircea_popescu: than mpex*

19:06:08 mircea_popescu: in other words, giving "yourself" 100% trust arbitrarily is not well borne by experience.

19:06:27 pankkake: !up poutine

19:09:13 mircea_popescu: 24th done holy shit this is hard work.

19:09:31 Duffer1: what are you up to MP?

19:09:41 mircea_popescu: jus catching up on the logs

19:09:46 Duffer1: oh

19:09:47 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/review-of-the-current-state-of-bitcoin-securities-market.314520/#post-6640456 << ahaha this is so sweet.

19:09:47 assbot: Review of the current state of Bitcoin securities market | Bitcointa.lk

19:10:09 mircea_popescu: so noob hears about bitcoin in 2014, his opinionator goes into overdrive, he writes it all down

19:10:17 mircea_popescu: then goes on bitcointalk to talk about it.

19:10:50 mircea_popescu: \because his wild eyed naivite this is how it works, noobs have something to contribute to the conversation in spite of their complete ignorance of history and where the conversation currently is,

19:11:11 mircea_popescu: and then bitcointalk is the place to do that. i suppose this guy goes around in a toga because nobody told him the roman empire fell i nthe meanwhile.

19:11:23 Duffer1: even odds his losses will approach 90% by this time next year

19:11:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0385 = 0.385 BTC [+]

19:12:14 thestringpuller: Duffer1: even odds his losses will approach 90% by this time next year << usually the case for all n00bs

19:12:17 mircea_popescu: 90% odds his losses will be 50% by next year, and yet he'll be misreporting them (to himself) and misbooking them correspondingly

19:13:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 216 @ 0.038 = 8.208 BTC

19:13:44 thestringpuller: ^- like usagi

19:14:00 mircea_popescu: well of him we publicly know

19:14:14 mircea_popescu: prolly thousands of noobs with unpublished delusitarian books

19:14:25 mircea_popescu: .d

19:14:43 mircea_popescu: ;;diff

19:14:43 gribble: 1.0455720138484837E10

19:14:48 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/his-most-eminent-highness-grand-caesar-imperator-goat.318417/page-12#post-6636159

19:14:48 assbot: His Most Eminent Highness Grand Caesar Imperator Goat | Page 12 | Bitcointa.lk

19:16:13 mircea_popescu: benkay:

19:16:13 mircea_popescu: >>> AES encryption is applied to the wallet. Passphrase is specified via environment variable PICOCOIN_PASSPHRASE. << god help us.

19:16:37 mircea_popescu: the people who think they have something to say in bitcoin, and the ways their brains work.

19:16:57 thestringpuller: A passphrase stored as an env variable? Like...whaaa?

19:17:09 pankkake: at least it's not command line, lol

19:17:30 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: can't bring myself to do another router or ip camera << you post these anywhere ?

19:17:42 mircea_popescu: pankkake, what, like bitcoind you mean ?

19:18:14 pankkake: I mean specifiying the passphrase on the command line. gets in process list, in shell history, etc.

19:18:57 mircea_popescu: in ha;f the logs

19:20:18 thestringpuller: you could do echo $PICOCOIN_PASSPHRASE and it's on the cmd line...

19:20:39 mircea_popescu: pankkake, but srsly, bitcoind takes the wallet passphrase as command line

19:20:46 thestringpuller: ^- yes it does

19:20:59 thestringpuller: but if you put a space before the command it doesn't store it in bash history (like that actually helps)

19:21:21 pankkake: well, at least there's the RPC way to do it safely

19:21:26 mircea_popescu: im pretty sure it still ends up in the logs

19:21:29 pankkake: but it probably should not exist, yes

19:21:33 mircea_popescu: pankkake, not really much sagfer, no.

19:22:11 mircea_popescu: it could be made to be safe, of course, but then again so can this (dedicated system)

19:22:19 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: oh wow yea you can recover it if you're logging...

19:22:39 mircea_popescu: not if.

19:22:47 mircea_popescu: all oses log. including windowze. out of the box

19:22:51 mircea_popescu: cause you fucking have to

19:23:01 thestringpuller: like in dmsg?

19:23:09 thestringpuller: dmesg*

19:23:57 mircea_popescu: just run it once then sudo grep the system for the pw

19:24:07 mircea_popescu: (don't have to use the right one either)

19:24:08 thestringpuller: daaaaamn

19:24:26 thestringpuller: bitcoind suucks.

19:24:36 thestringpuller: ^- not news tho

19:25:24 Naphex: export HISTFILE=/dev/null

19:25:24 Naphex: :P

19:25:39 mircea_popescu: benkay: if i have to run bitcoind anyways why the fuck not just run bitcoind and take a dep on the whole fuckoff blockchain? << quite.

19:25:45 mircea_popescu: o hai Naphex

19:25:54 Naphex: hey hey

19:25:59 pankkake: by default linux does not filter the ps list, so you don't even need to be the same user

19:26:05 Naphex: been having a very nasty cold since friday, i'm mostly zombie mode

19:26:16 mircea_popescu: pankkake, even if you try to protect it, there';s too many ways logs leak.

19:26:28 pankkake: and then you can catch the bad sysadmins who run mysqldump in crons with password options

19:26:30 mircea_popescu: even csf has holes in it due to the way logs are handled by kernel

19:26:34 pankkake: got your password!

19:26:47 thestringpuller: smh

19:26:52 mircea_popescu: Naphex, im in argentina, it's nice here.

19:27:10 Naphex: how are you fitting in?

19:28:30 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: Electrum server isn't SPV. it's SPV-like <<< ahahaha this has just summarized the mental capacity of bitcoin coder ppls. yes, exactly. the code isn't working, it's working-like.

19:28:54 mircea_popescu: Naphex, tis splendid. basically, ba is ny of the 70s.

19:29:17 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: is ba your final destination?

19:29:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 26 @ 0.038 = 0.988 BTC

19:30:04 mircea_popescu: possibly.

19:30:22 mircea_popescu: i don't intend to be buried here if that\s what you mean

19:30:27 mircea_popescu: but yeah, i'll stay a little.

19:31:24 mircea_popescu: benkay: is that stupid? << no.

19:33:28 mircea_popescu: fluffypony, ahahaha, agent mazzotta's office has all the opsec of a chicken coop

19:33:47 fluffypony: :)

19:34:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 103 @ 0.038 = 3.914 BTC

19:34:01 fluffypony: I told the support staff to just close the ticket

19:34:05 fluffypony: but for a while I was tempted to reply:

19:34:59 fluffypony: "Tell Agent Mazzotta the lizard has entered the fibreglass cage of resourcefulness. Do not miss a word. Also tell him that the following message is CICADA 3301-F encoded: OSDJFSH02382oaSDFaweasdFAWr3q23eaq#RWQAE"

19:35:14 mircea_popescu: This is the brand and trademark page for RUNWAY BEAUTY which was created on August 20th, 2007 by Runway Beauty, an CORPORATION. The trademark owner is located at 8637 E. Berridge ln. in Scottsdale, ARIZONA. Runway Beauty can be contacted at 480-361-5012, odci@cox.net

19:35:19 mircea_popescu: is this like...a beautician ?

19:35:47 mircea_popescu: miranda delta prime the runway beauty ?

19:36:33 fluffypony: indeed - I believe he even has a nail technicians license or something

19:36:42 fluffypony: it's the ultimate cover!

19:37:04 mircea_popescu: ill tell you what happened, and you won't like to hear it.

19:37:43 mircea_popescu: a guy by the name mazzotta who happens to be a federal agent contracted for his own garage to have some rig shit delivered. he was gone one day, and his WIFE who is about as clueful as the average blondy

19:37:55 mircea_popescu: (your blondy excluded) decided it'd be a great idea to leak info, so she did.

19:38:11 mircea_popescu: now you have an unduly exposed customer that shall be unhappy to hear about it, if he ever does.

19:38:26 asciilifeform: where is it written that these folks can't enjoy chumpatronics at home while off the clock

19:38:31 mircea_popescu: ^

19:38:54 fluffypony: ok wait, so by day he's a beauty magazine editor

19:38:59 mircea_popescu: no.

19:39:03 mircea_popescu: he just fucks one.

19:39:05 mircea_popescu: like we all do.

19:39:06 fluffypony: by night he's a CIA agent cum Freemasoner

19:39:14 fluffypony: and on weekends he mines altcoins on his GPU rigs

19:39:31 mircea_popescu: they had an info thing about bitcoin that was widely disseminated

19:39:42 mircea_popescu: which is how most agents heard of bitcoin, and why they think its cool.

19:39:47 punkman: fluffypony, probably should have censored your pastebin

19:39:47 mircea_popescu: the ones that can still think at least.

19:39:59 fluffypony: punkman: why?

19:40:05 fluffypony: I don't live in the USA

19:40:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010231 = 0.1023 BTC [-] {2}

19:40:07 fluffypony: and even if I did

19:40:10 fluffypony: it's a cox.net email

19:40:12 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: office has all the opsec of a chicken coop << funnily, i live a few km from a masterfully camouflaged, unregistered chicken coop.

19:40:17 mircea_popescu: well cause the poor customer is innocent here.

19:40:20 fluffypony: if it was from @cia.gov it would be different

19:40:43 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, o, they're illegal there ?

19:40:55 punkman: fluffypony: you shouldn't be leaking customer names on principle

19:40:55 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're usually forbidden in 'residential' zone.

19:40:56 decimation: asciilifeform, I have friends in PG county who had nearly the same thing happen to them - tree roots in the sewer line. It was in one of the "Levittown" areas built out in the 60's

19:41:12 asciilifeform: decimation: exactly this

19:41:32 fluffypony: punkman: if it was a scammer, I'd put his info up on the interwebs without hesitation. This guy is borderline, so he gets borderline dox.

19:41:36 decimation: you can learn much about American "progress" by touring the old suburbs of Washington

19:41:50 mircea_popescu: fluffypony, how is he a scammer at all ?

19:41:55 decimation: homes in the Levittown are small with big lots. New homes are huge with small lots

19:42:02 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he tried to chargeback after it shipped

19:42:16 fluffypony: only because of his stupidity and unfamiliarity with the PayPal process did it lapse and close

19:42:17 mircea_popescu: oh

19:42:19 benkay: <mircea_popescu> fluffypony: Electrum server isn't SPV. it's SPV-like <<< ahahaha this has just summarized the mental capacity of bitcoin coder ppls. yes, exactly. the code isn't working, it's working-like. // i wept

19:42:50 fluffypony: if he was just innocent and everything was all hunkery-dorkery I would chuckle at the Sekrit Ajint thing and move on

19:43:06 fluffypony: but coupled with the PayPal thing it was just laughable

19:43:18 mircea_popescu: i see where you're comin' from

19:44:26 fluffypony: he's ALSO the guy that told us he was in charge of the 8th largest magazine in the world

19:44:45 mircea_popescu: so you found the next trendon.

19:44:54 fluffypony: when we tried to reach out to him to resolve the PP dispute

19:45:27 fluffypony: "I run the 8th largest magazine in the world"

19:45:32 fluffypony: straight out of the proverbial horse's mouth

19:46:01 fluffypony: and just FYI

19:46:02 fluffypony: it's this guy

19:46:03 fluffypony: https://www.facebook.com/RunwayChief

19:46:21 fluffypony: such sekrit ajint. much CIA. wow.

19:47:15 mircea_popescu: aok

19:47:53 mircea_popescu: meanwhile among the retarded, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/471014639275626496

19:47:54 assbot: Ahaha funniest shit I saw all week. Hey noobster, /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash IS ALL ABOUT PRIVILEGE. /aantonop @30somethingST Examine your privilege

19:49:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00010231 = 0.1023 BTC [-]

19:49:42 fluffypony: what is 30somethingST?

19:49:52 mircea_popescu: no idea.

19:50:58 decimation: mircea_popescu: re: residence location: The quality of humanity surrounding your residence is far more important than the quality of the streets and infrastructure

19:53:01 mircea_popescu: the latter is directly measurable

19:53:21 decimation: well, the latter is a direct consequence of the former as well

19:53:39 mircea_popescu: "The fact that Bitcoin?s followers deeply oppose this sort of aggressive government action explains why their aspirations to building a universal currency aren?t working."

19:53:50 mircea_popescu: arrogant 20something fuckwit....

19:54:03 mircea_popescu: anyway, i invited her over, curious what comes of this.

19:55:32 pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=626175.0

19:55:33 assbot: [ANN]open business economics (taking crypto to a new level)IPO

19:55:34 mircea_popescu: holy shit i nearly caugfht up on logs omfg i feel so accomplished now

19:56:55 mircea_popescu: !up justusranvier

19:57:09 mircea_popescu: did you get banned off the power rangers lists yet ?

19:58:02 mircea_popescu: jurov: paymum << noit a bad name :D

20:00:05 mircea_popescu: pankkake: :( specifiying bets is hard << you telling me.

20:00:20 mircea_popescu: and i nthe bc.net case, isn't davout actually invested on the no side ?

20:01:09 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: just saying that "go to the url and login and see if it works" is shitty argument << well ok, but would the pron site allow you to withdraw your bc balances too ?!

20:01:48 kakobrekla: depends, yes on this one <mircea_popescu> http://i.imgur.com/0TRfa2l.png

20:01:52 kakobrekla: brb

20:01:53 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: plain or rich text? << ahaha a new standard is born

20:01:57 mircea_popescu: 100kb/day of rich text!

20:11:44 decimation: bitcoin will stand or fail on its own merits - it doesn't matter if "followers oppose actions"

20:12:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25850 @ 0.00082392 = 21.2983 BTC [-]

20:16:01 benkay: mircea_popescu: do you plan to incorporate anything in b.a.?

20:17:14 BingoBoingo: benkay: I imagine he's incorporating more steak into his mouth.

20:17:41 mircea_popescu: benkay, yep. hiring a lawyer tomorrow.

20:17:51 mircea_popescu: decimation, word.

20:18:10 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you should see these steaks. new york never had such steak in the past decade.

20:18:17 mircea_popescu: !up phtest

20:19:03 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My impression of Argentina is that it in reality is what people imagine the better aspects of Texas to be.

20:19:07 benkay: mircea_popescu: i'm interested to hear about what the challenges are down there

20:19:15 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, you're not even very far off.

20:19:16 benkay: <BingoBoingo> mircea_popescu: My impression of Argentina is that it in reality is what people imagine the better aspects of Texas to be. // it's true!

20:19:27 mircea_popescu: benkay, there are no challenges other than being poor.

20:19:41 benkay: myeah that old thing

20:20:04 decimation: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16500874 "The proportions of trans 18:1 and n-6 FA were higher (P<0.001) for both grain-fed beef groups than grass-fed beef. Data from the present study show that grain feeding decreases functional lipid components (long chain n-3 FA and CLA) in Australian beef regardless of meat cuts, while increasing total trans 18:1 and saturated FA levels."

20:20:05 assbot: Effect of feeding systems on omega-3 fa... [Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

20:20:24 decimation: grass fed cows are healthy; produce healthy meat

20:20:31 asciilifeform: world's smallest cat (oncifelis guigna) is said to live in argentina.

20:20:36 mircea_popescu: anyway, im definitely staying, everyone start saving for next year's conference. i got the hotel, it's a pleasure. you're all getting apartments even! and superb restaurants and everything.

20:20:41 mircea_popescu: 3rd conf will be best conf yet.

20:20:48 BingoBoingo: It's like these derps never heard of BitBet http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-predict-future/

20:20:49 assbot: Can Bitcoin Help Predict the Future?

20:20:51 mircea_popescu: !up bitstein

20:21:05 phtest: Hi. Thanks MP for giving me voice. Just lurking for now :)

20:21:18 mircea_popescu: phtest, enjoy. who're you again ?

20:21:30 phtest: Nobody ...

20:21:34 mircea_popescu: aok

20:21:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0045734 = 0.1555 BTC [+]

20:22:27 pankkake: decimation: why the sudden paleo propaganda? :)

20:22:38 mircea_popescu: punkman: tourist idiots like to rent them around here, then they end up in a ditch with broken legs << word.

20:23:13 BingoBoingo: http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/DataStandards/StructuredProductLabeling/ucm162541.htm

20:23:13 assbot: Flavor

20:23:43 BingoBoingo: The list of FDA approved drug flavorings

20:24:11 decimation: Hey I'm not saying that you have to eat paleo. But all things being equal, it's probably better to eat a cow who ate grass instead of one who was fed grain in a cage

20:24:41 decimation: for more obvious health news: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140521180012.htm walking is healthy, even for old fat derps with heart disease

20:24:42 assbot: Peripheral artery disease: Home-based walking program eases clogged leg arteries -- ScienceDaily

20:24:42 pankkake: I eat paleo, I just wondered why the link from 2006 apparently

20:25:26 decimation: I suspect that Argentinian beef is more likely to be raised free-range than on a feedlot, but I could be wrong

20:25:33 pankkake: I now walk 1 hour a day, used to be 0, spent half my day in bed for months

20:25:38 pankkake: my feet hurt

20:26:00 mircea_popescu: i walked 18 of the past 48 hours.

20:26:07 decimation: I find good shoes and socks are a requirement for pain free walking

20:26:07 mircea_popescu: slept like 10.

20:26:12 pankkake: nice

20:26:27 mircea_popescu: everything hurts. do you know what i do ? i fucking ignore them.

20:26:39 BingoBoingo: Much derp: Facebook, social, moving the decimal point http://www.coindesk.com/facebook-integrated-wallet-makes-sending-bitcoin-easy-messaging/

20:26:40 assbot: Facebook-Integrated Wallet Makes Sending Bitcoin as Easy as Messaging

20:27:21 pankkake: at that point in my life, pain is just some random information :/ I'm bene gesserit level

20:27:40 mircea_popescu: lol wd.

20:28:06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: walked 18 of the past 48 hours << lol, same!

20:28:44 mircea_popescu: it keeps a body younmg

20:30:23 decimation: Mircea you should move back to new zealand, healthy food, relatively unpopulated

20:30:39 decimation: true there's horrible earthquakes, but the people rebuild pretty quickly apparently

20:30:40 pankkake: does it have kangaroos?

20:30:49 decimation: no, but it does have flightless birds

20:30:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

20:31:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [BLISS] 5 @ 0.038 = 0.19 BTC

20:32:29 fluffypony: decimation: it also has the All Blacks

20:32:35 fluffypony: which I think is reason enough not to move there

20:34:35 mircea_popescu: i never was in nz tho ?

20:34:56 fluffypony: maybe he misunderstood the Christchurch, NZ comment

20:35:12 mircea_popescu: yeah. nz was an option i didn't take

20:36:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0001663 = 0.1663 BTC [+]

20:36:06 fluffypony: yeah, and once you move to South Africa you won't want to leave

20:36:24 fluffypony: now if only BitBet allowed longer bets

20:36:36 fluffypony: "MP to move to South Africa before May 26th, 2024"

20:40:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00082392 = 2.1834 BTC [-]

20:41:38 decimation: I thought you had scouted Christchurch before settling in Romania, or perhaps it was only by spreadsheet

20:47:02 jurov: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-16/where-worlds-unsold-cars-go-die

20:47:02 assbot: Where the World's Unsold Cars Go To Die | Zero Hedge

20:50:09 jurov: !up cads

20:50:16 jurov: !up turbo_ac100

20:51:00 turbo_ac100: jurov: are you upping the lazy?#

20:51:13 jurov: just procrastinating

20:51:43 BingoBoingo: jurov: http://jalopnik.com/that-zero-hedge-article-on-unsold-cars-is-bullshit-1578124255

20:51:44 assbot: That Zero Hedge Article On Unsold Cars Is Bullshit

20:51:52 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2014#681363

20:51:53 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

20:52:18 turbo_ac100: I'm debugging sound in fuckin manjaro. It's a disgrace... So 2000 :/

20:54:15 BingoBoingo: Well I've done test installs of OpenBSD on my machines. Only unsupported hardware is the wifi card in the laptop I'm on now.

20:55:49 turbo_ac100: A new notebook I recon?

20:57:15 BingoBoingo: turbo_ac100: No, a X120e, 2011 model Lenovo

20:57:40 BingoBoingo: Even the GPU works

20:59:37 BingoBoingo: The fucking AMD GPU works, but not the onboard realtek RTL8188CE

21:00:20 BingoBoingo: Apparently the USB version of this chipset works spectacularly. Just not the mini-pcie card.

21:02:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0975 = 0.2925 BTC [+]

21:03:51 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation it was by advance party. like i do these things/

21:03:51 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:04:20 mircea_popescu: lenovo is the sux

21:06:22 BingoBoingo: The build is durable. It is really all I ask for in a portable machine.

21:07:12 mircea_popescu: durable it is yea. not great for compatibility issues, tho.

21:07:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile on twitter, https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/471034471358414848

21:07:21 assbot: Ahaha funniest shit I saw all week. Hey noobster, /hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash IS ALL ABOUT PRIVILEGE. /aantonop @30somethingST Examine your privilege

21:07:33 mircea_popescu: and im out for the partying now. bbs.

21:10:57 BingoBoingo: This is the first portable where when the battery life became unbearably short I actually ponied up for a new OEM battery.

21:20:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00082018 = 8.1198 BTC [-]

21:22:44 Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: nope. i should start a blog

21:23:30 Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: theres just something about the design thats timeless

21:24:27 BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: One of my favorite parts when lugging it around campus was it's theft deterrent design.

21:24:32 Mats_cd03: even the clit, which is aggravating even when the stars are aligned

21:31:33 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: realtek is an infamous turdmeister

21:33:07 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Yeah. In 2011 I was ignorant and didn't know to look.

21:33:30 asciilifeform: not that you can easily obtain a laptop without it

21:33:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00458512 = 0.2293 BTC [+]

21:35:27 BingoBoingo: I think I might get a usb dongle.

21:35:44 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: usb lan is hell on the cpu

21:35:59 pankkake: it's what I did with my thinkpad… got a realtek usb that worked much better than the realtek pci-e on linux

21:36:19 BingoBoingo: Everything's hell on the CPU

21:36:53 pankkake: http://www.alfa.com.tw/products_show.php?pc=34&ps=92 that thing. it's hungry in every way

21:36:54 assbot: 500 Internal Server Error

21:37:19 asciilifeform: pankkake: aha, famous 'wardriving' classic

21:37:40 asciilifeform: seems like everyone i know owns one

21:37:41 pankkake: yeah. it works really well. also bought a big-ass antenna

21:38:23 fluffypony: I have two, but yeah, not very battery friendly

21:38:45 fluffypony: but back-in-the-days it was *the* promiscuous wifi dongle to have

21:39:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 19698 @ 0.00009939 = 1.9578 BTC [-]

21:41:04 BingoBoingo: http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/05/26/1922207/organic-cat-litter-may-have-caused-nuclear-waste-accident

21:41:06 assbot: Organic Cat Litter May Have Caused Nuclear Waste Accident - Slashdot

21:42:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00082047 = 1.6409 BTC [+]

21:42:25 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/26/isnt-it-beautiful/

21:42:28 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: reminds me of a time when i stowed some stuff in plastic garbage bags, then discovered they were... biodegradable. turned to astonishing quantity of dust. when vacuuming old flat, found fragments - years after the fact.

21:43:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.0045869 = 0.4128 BTC [+]

21:43:40 BingoBoingo: Ah, when I was living in Missouri I learned that scorpions apparently love settling in cardboard.

21:44:39 benkay: what's the browser, BingoBoingo ?

21:45:07 BingoBoingo: benkay: Lynx

21:45:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.46070011 = 9.214 BTC [-] {2}

21:45:29 pankkake: I always test my websites under lynx

21:45:52 BingoBoingo: I consider it target #1 for web design

21:46:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00082047 = 0.8205 BTC [+]

21:46:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1040 @ 0.00418236 = 4.3497 BTC [-] {28}

21:49:07 fluffypony: links, plx.

21:50:19 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: penguirker should have you covered

21:50:40 fluffypony: I meant Links the browser

21:51:08 pankkake: what about w3m!

21:52:22 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: I dunno what you are running. Just install it and behold the glory.

21:52:26 fluffypony: http://links.twibright.com

21:52:26 assbot: Twibright Labs: Links

22:03:05 dub: links just adds porn to lynx

22:04:24 fluffypony: dub: ed zachery

22:09:31 asciilifeform: i get up for half hour and now 'lynx' is news!

22:09:33 asciilifeform: lol

22:09:34 assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 1500 @ 0.00021726 = 0.3259 BTC [+]

22:11:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.48965382 = 9.3034 BTC [+] {8}

22:14:37 benkay: everything old is new again

22:14:38 benkay: hipsters

22:14:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0385 = 0.385 BTC [-]

22:14:42 benkay: lynx

22:14:44 benkay: common lisp

22:14:46 benkay: forth

22:14:50 benkay: emacs

22:14:52 benkay: gpg

22:15:13 kakobrekla: even funckin irc is old.

22:15:22 asciilifeform: wonder if everybody who grew up in '90s thought, as i did, 'i didn't sign up to be a classicist damnit'

22:16:15 asciilifeform: in vernor vinge's 'fire upon the deep' sf universe, there is a profession of 'software archaeologist'

22:17:11 Duffer1: one of my favorite books

22:17:21 Duffer1: deepness in the sky was a bit better imo

22:23:39 benkay: some days software archaeology is all i do

22:24:53 benkay: cost for maintenance of legacy systems starts at 2x the greenfield rate with another factor proportionate to the number of lines of code, another proportionate to number of servers involved, and a third proportionate to how deep the clients pockets are.

22:25:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 67 @ 0.00236 = 0.1581 BTC [+] {2}

22:26:11 bitcoinpete: ahoy

22:26:33 bitcoinpete: davout: meanwhile, dotcoin is getting buttraepd << schweetest news today

22:27:06 pankkake: where?

22:27:20 davout: well, he's in "scheduled maintenance"

22:27:35 davout: but somehow has forgotten to schedule an "end of maintenance" :D

22:27:55 davout: imma read some bitcoin news in the meantime

22:27:58 benkay: "oops sorry hacked"

22:28:14 benkay: i can't believe you people read bitcoin news instead of wsj or something

22:28:22 benkay: and the forums etc

22:28:25 bitcoinpete: benkay: lol

22:28:48 bitcoinpete: ya, wsj blogs are even free

22:29:27 bitcoinpete: http://www.mises.org/daily/6759/Inside-Venices-Secession-Movement

22:29:27 assbot: Inside Venices Secession Movement - Paolo Bernardini - Mises Daily

22:33:00 bitcoinpete: from that coinomat tard: "Bitcoin community can be considered a community of accredited investors after all"

22:33:18 bitcoinpete: this line of thinking has caused untold butthurt

22:33:43 bitcoinpete: and will continue to until such time as some humble pie is gobbled

22:35:16 bitcoinpete: also left coinomat a comment, pending...

22:37:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00081899 = 21.6623 BTC [-] {3}

22:40:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00082047 = 3.2819 BTC [+]

22:45:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]

22:48:33 bloctoc: looking for eve online war logs to see if there is any relevance to mpoe price.

22:50:43 Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: I was at leonard wood for a few years...theres a good reason the state is a homophone for misery. Endless days of 90-105F in the summer at 95% humidity...couldn't be worse than hell

22:56:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17730 @ 0.00082047 = 14.5469 BTC [+]

22:56:20 Mats_cd03: Tornados though, those are cool. Saw a few touch down and wreck rows of homes...i made a special effort to see it, nevar forget

22:58:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.49728362 = 0.9946 BTC [+] {2}

23:02:21 Mats_cd03: but seriously that humidity. sucks the moisture out of your body in minutes. i normally consumed a quart of water each hour the sun was up when doin field exercises... still pissed bright yellow

23:10:17 BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: There are enjoyable places in Missouri like Columbia, but yes the weather sucks through the whole state.

23:10:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00410053 = 0.164 BTC [-] {2}

23:10:43 BingoBoingo: Incapable of being hot and dry.

23:19:11 bitcoinpete: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/mourning-goat-reunited-best-friend-ends-hunger-strike-163550205.html

23:19:13 assbot: Depressed goat is reunited with best friend, ends hunger strike | Good News - Yahoo News Canada

23:19:42 bitcoinpete: 5th most popular article on ynews...

23:19:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.49799957 BTC [+]

23:23:45 BingoBoingo: http://deadspin.com/5984350/the-coming-war-a-military-doctors-field-guide-to-masturbating-in-afghanistan/1581636015/+deadspineditors

23:23:46 assbot: A Combat Doctor's Field Guide To Masturbating In Afghanistan

23:29:26 bitcoinpete: lol @ darkcoin

23:29:28 bitcoinpete: https://twitter.com/zedomax/status/471058660307656704

23:29:29 assbot: /hashtag/darkcoin?src=hash frozen on both cryptsy & mintpal, once fork issue is fixed price should rally again so don't worry and HOLD.

23:29:55 bitcoinpete: down 22% today

23:30:03 bitcoinpete: 21.32%...

23:32:16 Apocalyptic: the loltron at its best

23:34:56 BingoBoingo: http://valleywag.gawker.com/rap-genius-cofounder-resigns-over-comments-on-elliot-ro-1581741873/+gabriellebluestone

23:34:56 assbot: Rap Genius Cofounder Resigns Over Comments On Elliot Rodger Manifesto

23:38:49 mircea_popescu: hola

23:39:23 Apocalyptic: hey mircea

23:40:34 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu moved to jupiter, not .ar!

23:40:35 mircea_popescu: que pasa

23:40:48 asciilifeform: already slept, woke, slept...

23:40:57 mircea_popescu: lol. the interwebs are just dubious, tis not jupiter tho

23:41:01 mircea_popescu: jupiterrible.

23:42:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]

23:43:13 mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> even the clit, which is aggravating even when the stars are aligned << wait what ? the C.L.I.T. ?

23:43:26 asciilifeform: the thinkpad one i assume

23:46:47 mircea_popescu: ;;google "we are the masters of the clit. i made that shit work"

23:46:48 gribble: Jay and Silent Bob - Clit Commander - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8Ta0v7dSM; The Clit Commander - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4-ChcL6Pzo; clit master - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAFurpRpVH0

23:48:45 mircea_popescu: <bloctoc> looking for eve online war logs to see if there is any relevance to mpoe price. << now that's diggin' deep.

23:50:16 asciilifeform: http://io9.com/these-radio-frequency-blocking-clothes-will-keep-you-of-1579481611

23:50:16 assbot: These Radio Frequency-Blocking Clothes Will Keep You Off The Grid

23:50:30 asciilifeform: ^ linked from the 'masturbate in afghanistan' site

23:50:36 asciilifeform: i immediately recognized the cloth

23:50:49 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, "The Ebay/Paypal breech" you mean braach ?

23:50:50 asciilifeform: it's silver-impregnated silk, etc. there is, afaik, only one manufacturer

23:51:09 asciilifeform: i've bought from them. (comfy eeg electrode pads to sleep in)

23:51:12 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sure

23:51:28 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You do your own sleep studies?

23:51:38 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: did.

23:52:43 bloctoc: mircea_popescu I'm not looking for statistical significance or anything, just wanted to see if a biggish price drop happened after a big battle was lost.

23:53:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00081623 = 5.2647 BTC [-] {2}

23:53:21 BingoBoingo: bloctoc: 1BTC never really gamed that way.

23:54:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.000815 = 1.1818 BTC [-]

23:54:23 bloctoc: are they wussies?

23:55:09 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, they lend plex out i hear

23:55:32 bloctoc: don't answer that wussies thing. I vow to stop trolling

23:56:23 bloctoc: but it sounds like 1BTC doesn't affect the price of mpoe?

23:57:26 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'd have to get the client installed again, might be a while

23:58:01 mircea_popescu: bloctoc, likely not

23:59:06 BingoBoingo: I have to say shares of 1BTC were one of my better investing decisions.

23:59:23 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 155 @ 0.00250926 = 0.3889 BTC [+]